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Okay, David, do you do not need your
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laptop? Put that away.
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>> I don't have my laptop.
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>> No,
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>> but how am I supposed to But what if
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What? But news.
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>> What if the Fedverse needs
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>> What if the fediverse needs?
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>> Yo, what is up people of the internet?
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Welcome back to another episode of the
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Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm
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Marquez.
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>> I'm David. And I'm David. Adam wrote
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that into the script, not me. Nice.
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So, we're back with uh some Apple news,
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some Google news, and a game that Adam
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wants to play with all of us. So, this
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will be a fun variety pack episode.
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>> Yes.
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>> But first,
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>> yes, Marquez, you changed your whole
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desk setup.
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>> I did.
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>> We have to No, we have to understand
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why.
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>> All right. We were trying to unpack this
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a little bit.
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>> It was sort of a a minor thing, but it
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ended up taking my whole day setting all
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this stuff up yesterday. So,
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>> for those who are wondering, yeah, I uh
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I mentioned in the setup video of my
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desk that I would be getting rid of the
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Mac Pro soon. Apple literally
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discontinued the Mac Pro slightly after
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that video
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>> officially.
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>> Yeah. So, they gave up on the Mac Pro.
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So, so did I.
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>> Nice. Now, my question is, do I want to
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become the laptop person or still have a
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separate distinct desktop and laptop?
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Which kind of feels to me like, do I
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want to have my phone for every photo or
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do I want to carry a separate camera?
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>> Yeah,
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>> obviously the separate camera is going
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to be better, but it would be convenient
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if I could take everything on my phone.
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This is the laptop dilemma. I think that
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a 16inch M5 Max MacBook Pro,
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>> yeah,
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>> is powerful enough to do everything that
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I want out of a computer, including
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editing, including all the plugins,
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including everything that we do that
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takes a lot of render,
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>> but it's a 16-inch MacBook Pro. It's a
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big
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>> heavier
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>> big boy.
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>> Yeah. But the 14-in is clearly superior.
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I love the form factor. I would much
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rather carry the 14. And I know this
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because I've gone from a 16 to a 14 and
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I try to go back and back and forth and
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I just I'm
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>> But do you ever edit on just the 14
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without plugging into a display?
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>> I think I've done it like three only
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once with a main video and like three or
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four times with vertical video shorts.
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>> Yeah, it's annoying, right?
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>> It's slightly annoying, but it's not
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deal breaking annoying. What turned out
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to be more interesting is there's like a
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15 to 20% difference in long-term
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thermal performance. With the bigger
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chassis of the 16, you're actually
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getting like the max that the chip has
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to offer.
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>> Yeah, true.
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>> The M5 Max and 14-inch chassis is
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throttling a little earlier. Isn't
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giving me quite the same performance.
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>> Is it that big of a deal? Probably not.
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But
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>> I'm curious if I can use the 16-inch M5
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Max MacBook Pro.
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>> 16 inch.
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>> Yes. Okay. as my everything computer.
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>> Oh.
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>> Uh, it will be the desktop plugged into
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those monitors, plugged into a whole
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bunch of stuff, a dock, a dock, a whole
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bunch of, you know, we can talk about
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that.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And then when I need to go home or bring
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it somewhere, I can take it somewhere. I
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can take the edit somewhere. I can take
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whatever I'm doing and I don't have to
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have multiple computers.
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>> That's what's great about it.
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Everything's on one little PC.
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>> So, the obvious other version of this is
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Mac Studio. I've said Studio is the new
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pro. I think if this project, if this
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experiment fails me,
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>> Yeah. What I'll end up doing is I'll end
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up going back to having a Mac Studio on
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my desk. Whenever that M5 Ultra comes
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out or M6 Ultra, whatever it is, that
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will be the desktop. And a 14-inch
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MacBook Pro will continue to be my
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laptop.
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>> Yeah. Okay. How long are you going to
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test this experiment for?
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>> So, I have the review unit M5 Max
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16-inch MacBook Pro. It's maxed out. Has
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128 gigs of of unified memory. I'm I'm
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using this until the new MacBook Pro,
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which we all know is going to get the
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redesign, probably a 2 nmter node and an
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OLED touchcreen and all this stuff.
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Whenever that new one comes out.
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>> Yeah.
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>> And when that new one comes out, that's
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when I'll make my decision. Am I going
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to buy that laptop and continue the
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laptop life or am I going to become Mac
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Studio and MacBook Pro?
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>> If you get enough storage, I really It's
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so great to just have everything on one
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computer. Yeah, as of right now, it's
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like day one and a half. You know, it's
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the second day of this experiment. I am
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using a Now, there's a couple things I
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needed to make this setup work. So, I
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have two Studio Display XDRs on my desk.
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Okay,
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>> they look fantastic. They are smaller
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than this the Pro displays, but they're
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120 Hz. They're brighter. They look
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better. Yeah,
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>> I'm willing to accept that.
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>> And I daisy chain them to each other, so
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it's great. I still have Thunderbolt
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ports to spare.
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>> And I have this TS5 Plus dock. Who makes
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this dock? TS5 Plus doc calig
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>> Cal Digit baby.
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>> Yeah, this Cal Digit Thunderbolt 5 doc
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uh which lets me plug all of my
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accessories on my desk into the MacBook
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Pro with one cable.
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>> That's nice.
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>> So the the dream Yeah, the dream is to
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have the one cable setup. I walk in with
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the laptop, put it down, plug in one
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cable, everything lights up. The mouse,
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the mechanical keyboard, the studio
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monitors, the DAC, both displays, my
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storage, everything is connected.
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>> Crazy. Yeah. Unfortunately, uh oh,
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>> the Universal Audio DAC is really
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stubborn and refuses to work with the
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dock even though it's plugged into
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Thunderbolt in the dock. I've tried it
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with the dock. I've tried it also with
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the display, plugging it straight into
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the display. It doesn't like it. It just
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>> they've Did they even test this?
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>> It loves being plugged into the laptop
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directly. Damn.
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>> So, it's a twocable setup for now.
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>> Dak don't like the dock.
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>> Yeah, Dak don't like the dock. Damn.
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Marquez, let me sit at your desk after
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we record and troubleshoot this for you
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because
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>> please I it took me four hours to figure
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out
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>> that he didn't like anything other than
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direct.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Really annoying.
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>> I have my own version of exactly what
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you're going through right now.
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>> And this is like round three of me
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wanting to talk about the iPhone air.
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>> Yeah. Yeah.
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>> So, run it back, baby.
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>> I saw your tweets. You're
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>> You did.
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>> You were talking about how you tried to
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go back to the Pro.
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>> I tried. I tried. Oh my god. So, I want
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to know what your like. Are you back on
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a Pro or you still on the air? You're
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still on the air.
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>> Still on the air.
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>> Constantly frustrated by the camera.
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>> I mean, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll talk
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about that even more later. But
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>> you're probably, you know, a little more
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evened out because you're using a second
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Android phone all the time that's much
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thicker. So, you're kind of used to it.
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>> Yeah.
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>> But I don't know what I was smoking when
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I was like okay with phones being as
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thick as they were. You know,
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>> that bad.
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>> This not that bad.
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>> It used Okay. I used to have the
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opposite take.
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>> Okay. Okay. This this phone radicalized
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me.
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>> So what's your now your fully thin phone
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pled?
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>> Kind of.
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>> I kind of refused. You can only use this
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or the S25 Edge. Everything else will be
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devastating.
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>> Well, I think there'll be more options
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later.
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>> Yeah. And when the iPhone Fold comes
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out, I think I think that will because
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it's still thin when you open it. I
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think it'll be an okay compromise. It'll
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be shorter. We'll see.
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>> But I don't know. I I tried to go back
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to the Pro because I'm going to Europe
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today for two weeks and it's it's so
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heavy and thick.
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>> I I literally felt like I was using a
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Motorola track phone.
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>> That's what it felt like.
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>> I get it. Like I especially when you use
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them back to back.
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>> Yeah.
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>> You go from this super thin especially
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the lightweight too. That's the thing
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people don't realize when they see it on
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video. It looks oh it's just a little
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bit thicker whatever. But holding it
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it's so much lighter. Uh-huh.
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>> Uh, and the two things that are
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frustrating about the Air are the camera
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and the battery. As far as I mean,
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everything else is perfectly fine as far
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as I can tell.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So, I have had a couple moments where I
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wish I had an ultra wide and I literally
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had to back up. Like, I shot the desk
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photo the other day and I was just
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backing up away from my desk and that
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was annoying.
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>> But, I can kind of make that work.
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>> Yeah.
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>> But the battery.
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>> Yeah.
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>> How are you dealing with the iPhone?
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>> It's not as bad as
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>> I know how he's doing. He grabbed a rich
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power bank for his trip today.
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>> I did. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's not it's
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not awful. I will say like I've been
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home for a while for longer than I'm
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usually home for. Like I've been home
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for like a month
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>> and I am one of those people that just
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constantly has all of their gadgets
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plugged in at every moment that I'm not
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using them. You know, I have a lot of
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battery anxiety all of the time.
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>> That's okay with the Air then?
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>> Yeah. So, it's okay with the Air. So,
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I'm not completely sure how it's going
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to fair, you know, on a on a travel. I'm
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sure
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>> what
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>> I know exactly how this is going to go.
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>> Oh well, that's why I have battery
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banks, I guess. I don't know. I tried to
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switch back to the Pro and I was just
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like, I can't do this. This is so
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annoying.
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>> Wow.
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>> It totally wrapped up.
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>> Even as your only phone.
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>> Uh yeah, however. Okay. However, just
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like you, the main things that I miss
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are the camera. Um which by the way, I
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was wrong. I thought I you I thought I
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never used the wideangle camera. I the
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ultra ride I apparently do not for
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photography but for like
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>> functionality
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>> functionality. Yeah. Like like I uh I
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remodeled my kitchen this weekend.
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>> Wow.
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>> Yeah, I know. It's crazy. I had to put a
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lot of work in
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>> and I was trying to take a photo to like
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show my friends that I remodeled it.
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>> You can't back it up.
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>> I literally can't I hit the wall. You
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can't show the whole kitchen in one
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picture, which is annoying. So, I had to
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take a video and then it was still Yeah,
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it was bad. It was annoying. And then my
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my 3D printed camera that I use all the
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time uses the ultrawide camera to like
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crop in,
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>> right?
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>> And I can't do that either. So if they
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release an air with a wide with the
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ultrawide camera, I'll be happy. The
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other thing I found a solution to the no
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telephoto thing.
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>> Okay.
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>> Okay. So, there's there's this company
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that sent me this camera attachment
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thing like a few months ago called Kyra
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camera that it's like you mag safe your
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camera your phone to it and it's just a
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sensor with a um I I wish I had it with
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me. It's in my backpack. It's just a
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sensor with a micro four thirds lens on
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it
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>> and your phone slaps onto it and then
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your phone becomes the interface for it
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and it directly like it uses Wi-Fi
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direct. The images go straight to your
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phone. You can shoot raw. You can shoot
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video.
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>> Is it a micro four/ thirds sensor?
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>> It's a micro four third sensor.
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>> That's nice.
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>> And uh you can put micro and then you
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put micro four/ thirds lenses on it. And
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because it's micro four/ third sensor
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like it the crop factor is pretty high.
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So even if you're using like I'm using a
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25 mm Leica lens and it's like a it's
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like a 50 or something. Yeah, like a 50.
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>> That sounds sick.
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>> It's dope.
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>> What's it called?
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>> It's called Kyra camera. It's really
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cool.
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>> All right. So then what are you using as
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a lens if this is like a lens? Hey.
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Yeah, I have a I have a 25 mil lens.
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It's like a 50. So, I just carry that
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with me. It's not very big. It's like
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it's like this thick.
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>> Okay.
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>> And my phone your phone just like mag
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safes straight to it. And so, I'll just
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have that in my bag with me. And in the
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cases where I need to do telephoto, I
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just slap it on. You can shoot raw.
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>> Okay. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. It's it'll it'll work. I know. I
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understand what you're saying. It's like
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if I really want to zoom and take a
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photo like that, then I have this kit.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yes.
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>> Yeah. And that was my main concern
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because I because I use this on the last
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trip that I did too and not having a
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telephoto to shoot raw because I when
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I'm traveling I do a lot of uh like
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halli or or moment camera too with raw
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photos and with this it kind of sucks.
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So
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>> this is very anti- adding things to your
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phone for cameras.
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>> Yeah. Well,
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>> not entirely, but I do have I think
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there's a point of diminishing return
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and it's pretty quick.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Allison Johnson put a really
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interesting piece out on the Verge a
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couple weeks ago about the iPhone Air
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that says like it it was called like I
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finally understand the iPhone Air and it
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was about how it's a modular phone. How
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like you basically for the daily use you
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just use it and it's thin and it's great
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and then you basically switch it out for
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whatever parts you need whether it's the
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battery bank or like camera attachment.
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>> Motorola was a decade too early.
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>> Uh yeah, of course. Yeah,
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>> the Z Yeah, the Z was insane. Yeah,
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>> Mags Safe is such a better attachment
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mechanism because like things like the
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Moto Z that had the dedicated modules.
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>> Yeah, it's like they promised to support
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it for like 2 years and then they did
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and then all of those attachments were
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useless after that.
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>> That was brutal.
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>> Or as long as Apple does not get rid of
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Mags Safe, which I saw some rumors that
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were like they're thinking of killing it
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and I was like that's the stupidest
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thing ever and they will never do that.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Uh as long as Mag Safe exists, all these
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attachments still work.
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>> Yeah. Sorry, iPhone 16. So, my point is
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I am totally radicalized. I don't I
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didn't think this would ever happen to
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me.
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>> Mhm.
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>> I mean, this is kind of what we said
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when it came out. Like, this is the
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right form factor. It's just too many
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compromises.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. This phone would be great if it
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had a silicon carbon battery because it
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would probably be totally fine. I have a
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travel story for you in a second.
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>> Okay.
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>> But, and then Yeah. And add an extra
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camera and it's right there. It's back
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to being very usable and justifiable.
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>> Okay. What's your story? Uh, I recently
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went to, how much can I say? I went to a
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foreign country in Europe somewhere.
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>> Okay.
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>> For a video shoot that you guys will
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learn about later. Yeah.
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>> And I forgot to bring a power adapter.
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>> I totally forgot to bring
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>> every time Adam and I were just talking
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about that.
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>> I brought everything else I need. I had
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the MacBook Pro.
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>> I had the backpack full of stuff. I had
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uh my chargers all ready to go. And I
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just forgot my like adapter for their
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plugs.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So, it's a three-day trip. And I
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realized this as I land and I'm like,
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you know what? I don't I'm not going to
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buy an adapter. I'm going to survive
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with the batteries that I have.
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>> Crazy person,
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>> which is a MacBook Pro, an Oppo Find X9
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Ultra, a OnePlus 15, and an iPhone Air
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>> and an iPad Pro. And I was I got off the
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plane not knowing, so I wasn't really
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conserving battery while I was watching
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stuff on the iPad. So, the iPad was like
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kind of cooked.
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>> So, I got there and it was like, I need
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to use my MacBook Pro as a power bank to
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charge my phones overnight every single
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day.
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>> Beautiful. After the first night of
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charging up the um the OnePlus to full,
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for some reason, the MacBook Pro is
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basically dead.
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>> So now I have two days and two phones.
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>> And uh yeah, the the iPhone Air did not
00:13:42
last. It lasted like I think I got to
00:13:43
low power mode at 20% like by the end of
00:13:46
the first day and I was still at like 60
00:13:48
something with the OPPO and the OnePlus.
00:13:51
So having them side by side and actively
00:13:54
trying to conserve battery on both and
00:13:55
just watching the air just slowly go
00:13:58
away, it was really it was pretty eye
00:13:59
opening. Yeah.
00:14:00
>> So I Yeah.
00:14:02
>> What I usually do when I forget a power
00:14:04
bank, which is like or forget a travel
00:14:06
adapter, which is a lot, is a lot of the
00:14:08
like hostels and stuff that I stay in,
00:14:09
they'll have like one USBA or USBC port
00:14:13
like in your bed area.
00:14:15
>> Oh, I was looking Yeah, I was looking
00:14:16
for that port. I always I turn my
00:14:18
MacBook Pro into like a multi-port daisy
00:14:21
chain battery battery pack where I plug
00:14:24
in the MacBook and then everything else
00:14:26
is just like octopused off of it.
00:14:29
>> Um, which is probably what's going to
00:14:30
happen in when I go to Europe today. So,
00:14:32
yeah. Anyway, uh, yeah, I'm radicalized.
00:14:35
So, I really hope that they don't kill
00:14:37
this line like they did with the Mini.
00:14:39
The Mini I loved immediately.
00:14:41
>> Mhm.
00:14:42
>> And the the problem with the Air is that
00:14:44
it's a good phone. You just have to
00:14:46
spend like three weeks with it to
00:14:47
understand that,
00:14:49
>> which is a which is a problem for Apple.
00:14:52
>> Well, Apple always does two of
00:14:53
everything at least typically with the
00:14:56
phones. So, we're going to have we're
00:14:58
pretty sure we're going to have an Air2.
00:14:59
>> Yeah.
00:15:00
>> Then we'll see how that goes.
00:15:02
>> Yeah. All right. Did they even test
00:15:05
this? We do this every week. Did you
00:15:06
guys bring uh Did you bring some?
00:15:08
>> I have one.
00:15:09
>> Let's go, Ellis.
00:15:10
>> But first, actually two. But first, cuz
00:15:12
the first but first is
00:15:14
>> video viewers already know where this is
00:15:16
going.
00:15:17
>> No, because I uh unfortunately
00:15:20
embarrassed myself on the last episode
00:15:23
because my last did they even test this
00:15:25
was about how to do the find on page on
00:15:28
Safari.
00:15:29
>> Yeah,
00:15:30
>> got a lot of comments.
00:15:31
>> Got a lot of comments. Uh there's a much
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easier way
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>> to find on page that I did not know
00:15:36
about. Um, so I would just like to thank
00:15:38
>> Waveform viewers for being dedicated
00:15:42
Safari users.
00:15:46
>> Thank you, Waveform audience. Uh, okay.
00:15:50
Now,
00:15:51
Adam, would you mind uh getting the
00:15:53
lights, please?
00:15:54
>> I feel like I need to narrate this for
00:15:56
audio listeners.
00:15:58
>> Ellis Ellis is grinning from ear to ear
00:16:00
wearing a 76ers shirt and a 76ers hat.
00:16:04
And you know why I'm grinning ear to ear
00:16:06
Marquez? Why is that? Because this
00:16:09
weekend,
00:16:11
the Philadelphia 76ers, for the first
00:16:14
time since the 1980s, have defeated the
00:16:17
Boston Celtics in an NBA playoff series,
00:16:21
meaning we are moving on to round two to
00:16:23
face our other rivals, the New York
00:16:25
Knicker Bachers, in a what will
00:16:27
hopefully be another sevengame amazing
00:16:30
basketball series. Kelly Ubé, thank you
00:16:32
for your contributions. Joel Embiid is
00:16:34
back at healthy. Nothing can go wrong
00:16:37
for us.
00:16:38
>> Are they really called the
00:16:39
Nickerbuckers?
00:16:40
>> Knock some wood.
00:16:41
>> Yeah, Nicks are the nicker buckers.
00:16:43
>> What does that even mean? Underwear
00:16:45
>> something. I've looked it up so many
00:16:47
times and then just forget every time.
00:16:50
Um,
00:16:50
>> it commonly refers to 19th century baggy
00:16:52
kneelength trousers.
00:16:55
>> 76ers
00:16:56
really close to a meme,
00:16:58
>> dude. It's This team is just so much
00:17:01
fun. It's just so much fun.
00:17:04
>> I'm glad you're having fun. Game seven
00:17:06
sounds stressful, but it sounds like
00:17:06
you're having a lot of fun.
00:17:07
>> Dude, I have not come closer to my pants
00:17:10
as an adult than watching that game
00:17:12
seven. And just I I love I my my heart
00:17:16
pours out for everyone on this team,
00:17:18
especially Kelly Ubé and Joel Embiid and
00:17:20
Tyresese Maxi. And
00:17:22
>> yeah,
00:17:22
>> you said it was uh the most watched game
00:17:24
seven in NBA playoff history. That's
00:17:27
what we were seeing online. But we were
00:17:29
also talking about how game seven of the
00:17:31
finals that the LeBron Steph Curry
00:17:34
finals.
00:17:35
>> Yeah, that's incredible stat.
00:17:36
>> It's just like the six, you know, I keep
00:17:39
trying to explain this to Alex and Adam,
00:17:41
man. It's like the being a Sixers fan is
00:17:43
not about
00:17:45
reing in your endless wins, okay? cuz we
00:17:48
don't have any.
00:17:48
>> It's about we literally have more than
00:17:50
you, but it's about reveling in the
00:17:53
journey and and the story lines and the
00:17:55
personalities and watching Joel Embiid
00:17:58
grow up before our eyes and overcome so
00:18:01
much and watching Kelly Ubé turn into
00:18:04
just like a absolute dog in the paint
00:18:06
and and watching VJ Edgecomb blossom
00:18:08
into an eventual all-star and and having
00:18:11
already watched Tyrese Maxi blossom into
00:18:13
an all-star. And so that win, that game
00:18:16
meant so much to us.
00:18:17
>> I found the NBA.com post.
00:18:19
>> Yes.
00:18:19
>> Most watched first round in 33 years.
00:18:22
Most watched first round game seven
00:18:24
ever.
00:18:25
>> Everyone got to watch the Sixers play
00:18:27
beautiful Sixers basketball. And um I
00:18:30
just feel so blessed to be alive right
00:18:32
now.
00:18:33
>> Oh, and
00:18:34
>> I just want to make a quick point that
00:18:36
he's talking about the game seven
00:18:37
because game one versus the Knicks was a
00:18:40
not a great game if you're a six.
00:18:42
>> Oh, yeah. That already happened. Yeah,
00:18:43
that was really bad. And so my my did
00:18:45
they even test this is the Sixers drop
00:18:48
coverage because did not work. And those
00:18:51
baskets, those Knicks baskets were
00:18:53
fallen. Um so yeah, did they even test
00:18:55
this Sixers defense? But it's all good,
00:18:57
man, cuz we just did test it. We're
00:18:59
coming back tonight. Going to tie up the
00:19:01
series.
00:19:02
>> It's funny. I used to be a Clippers fan
00:19:04
back when Chris Paul and Lob City era
00:19:06
Clippers were like a thing. And this was
00:19:08
the feeling that I was hoping I would
00:19:10
feel for like five years straight. I
00:19:11
never never got to take.
00:19:12
>> It's okay if it makes you feel any
00:19:13
better. This is the feeling I've been
00:19:15
hoping to feel for 5 years straight and
00:19:16
we're finally getting it.
00:19:17
>> That's awesome.
00:19:19
>> All right, so on to tech.
00:19:21
>> Yeah.
00:19:22
>> My Did they even test this is shocker?
00:19:25
Google task.
00:19:26
>> So
00:19:26
>> what
00:19:27
>> in Google Task
00:19:29
>> when you add things to your upcoming I
00:19:32
guess reminders.
00:19:33
>> Okay,
00:19:34
>> there's on web at least I feel like this
00:19:36
might also be in the app. I'm not sure.
00:19:38
Um, but on web it shows like all of your
00:19:40
lists that you've made.
00:19:41
>> Yeah.
00:19:42
>> One of them, the very first one, um,
00:19:45
even though you can move it around, but
00:19:46
the the one that's first by default is
00:19:47
upcoming.
00:19:48
>> Okay.
00:19:49
>> That one will just show every reminder
00:19:52
that you have for the upcoming future
00:19:54
period. Like you can't sort it for only
00:19:57
show me the the upcoming week. You can't
00:19:59
sort it for only show me the upcoming
00:20:00
month. It's just everything. Like right
00:20:02
now I have a reminder for Friday,
00:20:05
December 11th to remind me that there's
00:20:07
a parade that always passes by my
00:20:09
apartment. Uh the Guadalupe parade, I
00:20:12
think, but it's at like 10 p.m. every
00:20:15
December 11th where a bunch of people go
00:20:18
down my block with a parade. So like I
00:20:20
set a reminder this past year. I don't
00:20:22
need to see that right now. We are in
00:20:24
>> Yeah.
00:20:25
>> May. Why is this still showing?
00:20:27
>> Why do you have that in tasks though?
00:20:28
Why isn't that not just in your
00:20:29
calendar?
00:20:30
>> That's a great question. I feel like
00:20:32
that's the reason they exist separately.
00:20:34
Like,
00:20:35
>> okay, so let's say I did have a task on
00:20:37
Friday 11th though,
00:20:38
>> like this Friday.
00:20:39
>> No, like the 11th of December, like I
00:20:42
don't know. I had to resign something on
00:20:44
December 12th. So, I set a reminder
00:20:47
probably
00:20:47
>> not a reminder.
00:20:48
>> No, that's Yeah, that's a task,
00:20:50
>> I guess. So, if it's like buy someone's
00:20:52
birthday present like a week before that
00:20:54
>> week before, like I would see that right
00:20:56
now, which is like why?
00:20:58
>> Yeah, I Yeah, okay, that makes sense.
00:21:01
Why you're notate?
00:21:02
>> Have you tried tick tick?
00:21:04
>> I have tried tick tick and I used tick
00:21:06
tick for a long time. Um I was trying to
00:21:10
minimize subscriptions so I stopped
00:21:13
using it.
00:21:13
>> Are they paid?
00:21:15
>> The pro version.
00:21:17
>> Do you need the pro version for
00:21:19
>> I don't know. I mean at some point too
00:21:21
like is it better to use Google things?
00:21:23
Like I don't even know if that's the
00:21:24
case. Maybe it is better to just pay a
00:21:26
developer, but
00:21:27
>> I'm off of the like it's better to use
00:21:29
Google's version because there's so many
00:21:31
examples of it not being better to use
00:21:33
Google's version
00:21:34
>> that I have abandoned that philosophy.
00:21:36
>> That's a very good point.
00:21:37
>> Yeah.
00:21:37
>> Interesting.
00:21:39
>> Okay. In summary, no, they did not test
00:21:41
this.
00:21:42
>> Yeah. I have one that I'm Well, it's
00:21:45
less of the did they even test this and
00:21:47
more of why does this exist? Does that
00:21:49
work?
00:21:50
>> Why does Yeah, sure. We'll take it.
00:21:52
>> Okay. So, like a couple weeks ago, X
00:21:54
launched X Chat, which is a separate
00:21:57
app,
00:21:58
>> which is just Yeah. Which is a separate
00:22:00
app on your phone, which is just the DM
00:22:04
portion of X.
00:22:05
>> Mhm.
00:22:06
>> And it looks exactly like the DM tab in
00:22:09
X. And uh it's just the DMs, and then
00:22:12
there's a little button in the top
00:22:13
right, and you click it, it just opens
00:22:15
X.
00:22:16
>> Yeah. So,
00:22:16
>> I don't know why they have two separate
00:22:18
apps for this. And I thought Elon was
00:22:20
all obsessed with making the everything
00:22:21
app and then he just started separating
00:22:23
them and I'm very confused.
00:22:25
>> I think that counts.
00:22:26
>> That counts. Did they even think about
00:22:28
this? How about that?
00:22:29
>> Was there any like press statement as to
00:22:32
like why they did this?
00:22:33
>> No.
00:22:35
>> No. just launched
00:22:36
>> also like
00:22:36
>> casually
00:22:37
>> you after ever since the the the blue
00:22:40
check apocalypse on X Twitter on Twitter
00:22:44
>> uh messaging people is like almost
00:22:46
impossible because most accounts you
00:22:48
can't even DM unless you pay
00:22:50
>> is that is that how that works? I don't
00:22:52
>> I forget how the system works but I feel
00:22:53
like anytime I want to send a DM it's
00:22:56
like you got money.
00:22:57
>> Yeah.
00:22:58
>> So now there's an app to tell me like
00:22:59
you got money.
00:23:00
>> Yeah. Someone hit me up the other day.
00:23:01
They're like, "Hey, your handle is David
00:23:03
Mamela is available because I've been
00:23:05
trying to get that since like 2012 or
00:23:07
whatever." And uh but you have to have X
00:23:10
premium plus, which costs $40 a month in
00:23:13
order to request dead hand like unused
00:23:16
handles. And I was like, "Okay, I hate
00:23:18
this."
00:23:18
>> Question is encrypted.
00:23:21
>> Uh
00:23:22
>> is the Twitter DMs regular Twitter DMs
00:23:26
encrypted?
00:23:26
>> They're exactly
00:23:27
>> It is cuz they're the same.
00:23:28
>> Oh well. And I have no answer.
00:23:30
>> I really don't know why this exists.
00:23:32
>> Yeah, I was trying to think of something
00:23:33
for
00:23:33
>> now. To be fair, to be fair, I have been
00:23:36
wanting an Instagram just DMs app
00:23:39
forever, which they were working on for
00:23:41
a long time.
00:23:42
>> Separately.
00:23:42
>> Separately.
00:23:43
>> Isn't that just messages? Like Facebook
00:23:44
messages or Messenger?
00:23:46
>> Yeah, but Instagram. They unbundled
00:23:48
them, remember?
00:23:49
>> Yeah. So, you mean WhatsApp?
00:23:51
>> No, that that No, no. the amount of
00:23:53
people
00:23:54
>> double check.
00:23:54
>> There's a lot of people that I just DM
00:23:56
with through Instagram
00:23:58
>> that I like daily, but I have I have all
00:24:01
my social media blocked throughout the
00:24:02
day on my accounts because I don't want
00:24:04
to, you know,
00:24:04
>> Wait, this is the exact same thing.
00:24:07
>> What?
00:24:07
>> That's what Twitter's doing.
00:24:08
>> Yeah,
00:24:09
>> you want to be able to DM the people you
00:24:10
DM on Instagram without also having to
00:24:13
go through the rest of Instagram.
00:24:14
>> Correct. I just I barely use Twitter,
00:24:16
which is the reason Twitter
00:24:18
>> that's what Twitter did, and I'm happy
00:24:20
about that. I barely I mean if it was
00:24:23
Instagram now because I barely use
00:24:24
Twitter I would love this for Instagram
00:24:26
but
00:24:27
>> it just it's just confusing. Let's move
00:24:28
on to some news this week.
00:24:31
>> I just want to say the the selling point
00:24:33
and this is according to Elon himself.
00:24:35
>> Okay.
00:24:36
>> Um quote Xhat is the only secure
00:24:40
encrypted messaging app.
00:24:42
>> So
00:24:42
>> that's not true at all.
00:24:44
>> What
00:24:45
>> it is if you just say it.
00:24:46
>> That's the end of the statement.
00:24:47
>> That's not even remotely true. That's
00:24:49
like the first half of a correct
00:24:50
statement, but then it's just wrong.
00:24:52
>> Has he ever heard of Signal before?
00:24:54
>> All right, let's get to the actual news
00:24:55
stories of the week. So, I got to take a
00:24:58
vote from you guys. We got two Apple
00:25:00
stories and two Google stories. Which
00:25:01
one do you want to get to first?
00:25:04
>> I like the Android ones or the Google
00:25:06
ones.
00:25:06
>> You like the Google ones?
00:25:07
>> Yeah, they're interesting.
00:25:08
>> Let's talk about the Google ones.
00:25:09
>> My curiosity is peaked.
00:25:11
>> Yes. So, this is going to be pretty
00:25:13
major event. Next week we're getting the
00:25:15
Android show which if you remember is a
00:25:17
preio Android experience where they
00:25:22
>> Yes. Yes. It's very hype because IO
00:25:25
super real. IO used to include Android
00:25:28
but now it's kind of just all Gemini.
00:25:30
>> Yeah. Now it's just for the stockholders
00:25:31
and not the people that care about the
00:25:32
products.
00:25:33
>> Well, the Gemini features are
00:25:35
interesting but yeah but it's going to
00:25:38
be a big one. Uh Samir Sant has tweeted
00:25:40
a video with a little teaser for the
00:25:41
Android show. His caption he says that
00:25:44
it's the biggest set of Android updates
00:25:45
ever. And he he he punctuated it. He
00:25:49
said biggest Android updates ever.
00:25:53
Period after every word, which is a big
00:25:55
deal. That's a lot of hype. It's a lot
00:25:57
of hype coming from a Googler. Wow.
00:25:59
Yeah. And in the little teaser video,
00:26:00
the little Andy and Android robot pulls
00:26:02
a light switch and when he turns off the
00:26:04
lights, he's glowing with these kind of
00:26:05
like neon blue and pink cotton candy
00:26:09
colors. However, and Adam noted this
00:26:11
because scaring me.
00:26:12
>> Oh, no. No, no, it's not. Don't. Okay.
00:26:14
By the way,
00:26:14
>> scaring me.
00:26:15
>> Everyone is quote tweeting this being
00:26:17
like, "Apple's doing liquid glass."
00:26:18
>> He replied to it.
00:26:19
>> Yeah, I know.
00:26:20
>> Yeah, he said we're not.
00:26:21
>> Him and Michelle have had to go like
00:26:23
have a campaign going to reply to every
00:26:25
single person being like, "No, we're
00:26:27
not."
00:26:27
>> Did they even test this?
00:26:29
Did they even think about this? Yeah.
00:26:30
Uh, but if you look very closely near
00:26:33
the Andy Android robot's neck, it's
00:26:35
clearly got the Pixel Glow like RGB
00:26:39
Y bar. If you want to see it clearly,
00:26:42
it's now the profile picture of Android
00:26:44
on Twitter.
00:26:45
>> Yeah.
00:26:45
>> So, yes,
00:26:46
>> it's hype.
00:26:47
>> Yes,
00:26:48
>> it's glowing.
00:26:48
>> Pretty hype. Um, it would be really
00:26:51
crazy and I would be very happy if they
00:26:53
did a lot of settings change ups like
00:26:55
they did with ice cream sandwich where
00:26:56
everything was kind of neon and weird.
00:26:59
>> And just this morning it leaked that the
00:27:02
new design language that they're using
00:27:04
is called luminous design.
00:27:06
>> Don't they ch Okay, they changed this so
00:27:07
much. All right. Well, I think that
00:27:09
they'll still have material you
00:27:10
expressive as the like, you know,
00:27:13
material interface, but I think that
00:27:14
luminous design is going to be like the
00:27:16
Gemini kind of like intelligent features
00:27:20
are going to have the Luminous stuff is
00:27:22
my guess.
00:27:23
>> So, it's being teased as biggest Android
00:27:25
updates ever, but it's not the biggest
00:27:27
Android updates ever. It's just the
00:27:29
Gemini parts.
00:27:30
>> I don't think it's just the Gemini
00:27:31
parts. I think that they're probably
00:27:32
adding a ton of Android features,
00:27:35
>> which is cool cuz I have no idea what
00:27:37
they would add. I'm very curious how
00:27:38
they're going to live up to this amount
00:27:39
of hype because this is
00:27:40
>> Yeah.
00:27:40
>> Yeah. Material 3 Expressive is new,
00:27:42
right? That just came out like two years
00:27:44
ago.
00:27:44
>> Yeah. From like two or three years ago,
00:27:46
something like that. Something like
00:27:46
that.
00:27:47
>> So, for them to have in for them to be
00:27:49
introducing a brand new design.
00:27:52
>> Yeah.
00:27:52
>> I would imagine that's just for like the
00:27:54
glowing around your screen when you hold
00:27:56
down the button to access Gemini, which
00:27:58
is already a thing. So, like what else
00:27:59
would they use this for?
00:28:00
>> Well, they just push pushed a big update
00:28:03
for the Gemini app on Android. um where
00:28:05
it looks a lot more neon like this like
00:28:07
yesterday. So if you have it that'd be
00:28:10
that'd be interesting to see.
00:28:11
>> Uh yeah. So I don't know. They say
00:28:13
biggest Android updates ever. I'm really
00:28:15
curious what that means. It could be so
00:28:17
many things. Are there any Android
00:28:18
features that you have been like wishing
00:28:21
for? Not specifically, honestly. I mean
00:28:23
the hardware is what's been fun to play
00:28:25
with in Android land. And then I use
00:28:27
Android Android Android most of the same
00:28:29
way I did 5 years ago which is also
00:28:31
mostly the same way I did 5 years before
00:28:33
that.
00:28:33
>> Yeah. So yeah, Gemini a little bit more
00:28:36
a little circle to search stuff a little
00:28:37
bit more, but it's genuinely mostly the
00:28:39
same. I'm pretty happy with it.
00:28:41
>> The one I'm really excited for is the I
00:28:43
forget what it's called, but the Chrome
00:28:45
desktop when you plug it in, pixel
00:28:46
desktop or whatever.
00:28:47
>> Yeah. Making that better.
00:28:48
>> Making it better to like be a Dex
00:28:50
competitor for real.
00:28:51
>> For sure.
00:28:52
>> Um because right now it's like in
00:28:53
developer beta or something like that
00:28:54
and it's fine. You can use it, but it's
00:28:56
not like I wouldn't say it's good. It's
00:28:58
just like fun to play around with. If
00:29:00
they can make that good, that would be
00:29:01
awesome.
00:29:02
>> Yeah. Well, thankfully the event is next
00:29:04
Tuesday, so we'll be able to talk about
00:29:06
on the show next week. I won't because I
00:29:08
won't be here, but you guys will be able
00:29:10
to talk about on the show next week. And
00:29:11
it's at 10:00 a.m. Pacific time. So, you
00:29:13
guys should all uh chime in. Maybe we
00:29:15
could get that live thread thing going.
00:29:18
>> I would love that, but I don't know if
00:29:20
that's out yet. It's rolling out slowly.
00:29:23
The other uh Google news is that Google
00:29:25
Home Gemini can now do multiple and more
00:29:28
complicated requests at once, which is a
00:29:31
big uh a big update. Sick.
00:29:32
>> Home 3.1. It improves Gemini's ability
00:29:35
to interpret and act on requests like
00:29:37
complex tasks or multiple tasks in one
00:29:39
query.
00:29:40
>> I need an example.
00:29:41
>> I think you should be able to say like
00:29:43
turn on the lights in the bedroom and
00:29:45
also open up the shades in the living
00:29:46
room.
00:29:47
>> So you can like chain things together.
00:29:49
>> You can chain things together. Um, also
00:29:51
more complex stuff. Uh, it will also
00:29:54
make Gemini better at handling recurring
00:29:56
all day events and allow you to move
00:29:58
around upcoming events with your voice,
00:30:00
which is interesting. That's helpful.
00:30:02
>> All I want is better search in Gmail.
00:30:05
>> Like, just use this for Gmail.
00:30:07
>> Yeah. How is it so bad?
00:30:08
>> Why are they doing all this? Just give
00:30:10
me good search in Gmail.
00:30:11
>> I don't know. It's still so bad. It is
00:30:12
crazy. Uh they are also launching in
00:30:15
beta a way to manage your smart home
00:30:17
from a computer and you can search your
00:30:19
camera history with natural language.
00:30:21
You can create routines from your
00:30:23
desktop. So that's nice.
00:30:25
>> You just said routines and that made me
00:30:27
think of another thing that I hope they
00:30:28
introduce into Android which is like
00:30:30
Samsung's routines and like uh Apple
00:30:34
shortcuts like something like that.
00:30:36
>> Yeah. Goo. They have some already,
00:30:38
right? Automations.
00:30:40
>> Oh, automations. You're right.
00:30:41
>> Yeah. and Gemini stuff are good
00:30:44
>> in Google Home. I think they're pretty
00:30:45
good. Well, I some of mine are broken,
00:30:47
so I haven't actually updated them in a
00:30:49
while. But I I do know they have that.
00:30:51
Let's see.
00:30:52
>> Like if they automation
00:30:53
>> if they flesh that out, that would also
00:30:55
be pretty sick.
00:30:56
>> Yeah.
00:30:56
>> Yeah.
00:30:57
>> Cuz there's not many things that I want
00:30:59
Android to take from iOS specifically,
00:31:01
but Shortcuts is one of them.
00:31:03
>> Yeah.
00:31:03
>> And I know you can use Macro Droid and
00:31:05
Tasker and all those things, but those
00:31:06
are so insanely powerful. I don't need
00:31:08
all that.
00:31:09
>> Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It's kind of
00:31:10
exciting for them to hype it so much
00:31:12
when I don't even know what I want them
00:31:14
to add. It's like I feel like we're
00:31:16
going to be surprised because none of
00:31:18
these features have leaked so far, which
00:31:19
is kind of surprising.
00:31:20
>> Yeah. I feel like Android I mean I don't
00:31:23
know. I guess both operating systems are
00:31:25
pretty mature at this point for what I
00:31:27
would like what I want.
00:31:28
>> Yeah.
00:31:29
>> So there's not really much you can do
00:31:31
besides a design change that would make
00:31:32
me be like whoa. It's such a huge change
00:31:35
up from what we already had. Yeah.
00:31:37
>> Like that's why with iOS, liquid glass
00:31:39
was like such a thing because it changed
00:31:40
how everything looked. I wouldn't say it
00:31:42
like
00:31:43
>> changed much of the functionality in a
00:31:45
drastic way.
00:31:45
>> No.
00:31:46
>> So I'm curious why they're hyping this
00:31:48
up so much. Like what are they going to
00:31:49
introduce?
00:31:49
>> Yeah. It's interesting that they're kind
00:31:51
of showcasing the Pixel Glow stuff
00:31:53
considering that's fairly necess
00:31:59
Well, they're pro. I mean maybe they
00:32:00
will. Maybe they'll show off the Pixel
00:32:02
11 and the Pixelbook or whatever. I
00:32:05
doubt it, but like it would be cool. It
00:32:07
would be cool.
00:32:08
>> That would be crazy.
00:32:08
>> Yeah, if they randomly dropped the Pixel
00:32:10
>> I mean they could do the Pixel laptop,
00:32:12
right?
00:32:12
>> Yeah, they could. Or at least they could
00:32:14
hype it.
00:32:15
>> You think they would drop that with the
00:32:16
phones in August, September, October,
00:32:18
whenever the Pixel event?
00:32:19
>> I think they would do it separately.
00:32:21
>> Really?
00:32:21
>> I think Yeah, from the separate from the
00:32:23
phones.
00:32:24
>> Really?
00:32:24
>> Let the phones shine. But if you're
00:32:25
going to do a laptop,
00:32:26
>> I don't know.
00:32:27
>> Like a new laptop, you could do that
00:32:28
separately.
00:32:28
>> I mean, when they did the Pixelbook Go,
00:32:29
it was at the same time as the phones
00:32:31
when the Pixel 4 came out.
00:32:33
>> True. I guess Google doesn't always
00:32:34
think logically,
00:32:35
>> so that's fair.
00:32:36
>> Yeah, but it's a I mean it's an I mean
00:32:38
this is supposed to be their Android
00:32:39
Chrome OS merger laptop, so it could be
00:32:42
>> and like why do you need the phones to
00:32:45
have their moment to shine when they're
00:32:46
just Gemini machines? You know,
00:32:49
>> they're not that different.
00:32:51
>> You know what I mean?
00:32:51
>> Just IO.
00:32:53
>> Yeah, that's true. Just drop separate
00:32:55
from my own.
00:32:55
>> Yeah. Um I went to the Google store in
00:32:57
Williamsburg this past weekend.
00:32:59
>> Oh, yeah.
00:32:59
>> And
00:32:59
>> you were close to me and you didn't tell
00:33:01
me. Is Williamsburg close to you?
00:33:02
>> Yes.
00:33:03
>> Oh, sorry.
00:33:03
>> Right below me. I can walk there in 20
00:33:05
minutes.
00:33:06
>> Oh, well, sorry. I'll hit I'll tell you
00:33:07
next time. But I was in the store and my
00:33:10
mom was with me because I was going to
00:33:12
get a what was it? Like a a Titan
00:33:14
security key for for my sister. That's
00:33:16
what she ended up picking.
00:33:16
>> You can get them at the Google store.
00:33:18
>> Yeah, they sell them there.
00:33:18
>> Oh, wow.
00:33:19
>> Um, cool.
00:33:20
>> But she was walking around. She's like,
00:33:21
"This is cozy. This is not like the
00:33:23
Apple store at all." And I was like, "I
00:33:26
bet that was very intentional."
00:33:27
>> Like, it is a lot like the Apple store.
00:33:29
I mean, it's more it's more cozy because
00:33:30
they have more fibers and stuff, but
00:33:32
>> I think more fibers, a lot of wood.
00:33:35
>> The Apple store.
00:33:36
>> Apple is like metal and wood and like
00:33:38
glass.
00:33:39
>> Yeah, that's true. White walls.
00:33:40
>> Yeah, they only have a couple of stores,
00:33:42
so they got to make them hype. Yeah.
00:33:45
>> All right. Uh, okay. Speaking of Apple
00:33:47
news,
00:33:49
>> Apple is going to allow you to choose
00:33:50
which AI model to use for different
00:33:52
Apple intelligence features, which is
00:33:54
kind of it's kind of interesting. Um,
00:33:56
>> it's very of the- moment. Yes.
00:33:58
>> I was asking, can one of you explain
00:34:00
this to me because I do not understand
00:34:02
what this means at all.
00:34:03
>> Yeah. Okay. So, this is according to
00:34:04
Bloomberg. Uh, in iOS 27, you're going
00:34:06
to be able to use an extensions feature
00:34:08
which lets you pick different AI models
00:34:10
for different features of Apple
00:34:11
intelligence like Siri writing tools,
00:34:14
image playground, other stuff. So, it's
00:34:17
become clear over the last year or two
00:34:19
years that these different AI models
00:34:21
that people subscribe to, whether it's
00:34:22
Claude or Chat GPT or Gemini, are better
00:34:25
at certain things, right? and people
00:34:27
subscribe to different ones. And at this
00:34:29
point, I think Apple has given up trying
00:34:32
to make their own competitive model,
00:34:35
right? Like it would cost so much money
00:34:37
and the the race is moving so fast and
00:34:39
the updates are coming so fast that
00:34:41
Apple would have to basically create an
00:34:42
entire additional company within Apple
00:34:45
just to keep up with all these other
00:34:46
companies. So it makes more sense to
00:34:49
just be the compute company that like
00:34:51
runs the models. They are the hardware
00:34:53
that everyone will run the models on,
00:34:55
right? So once all these models see
00:34:56
obviously there's the cloud models and
00:34:58
then once these local models get good
00:35:00
enough that everyone's running them
00:35:02
locally on all their machines they're
00:35:04
the ones here with the machines.
00:35:06
>> Yeah. And that we run them on their
00:35:07
>> totally. Yeah. So like the iPhone is
00:35:09
probably going to use Gemini Nano for
00:35:11
like Siri things right. But for all the
00:35:14
other features like image playground
00:35:15
which literally nobody uses uh chatbt
00:35:19
currently has you know it's competitive
00:35:21
between chatbt and Gemini for who has
00:35:24
the best image model.
00:35:25
>> Sure.
00:35:26
>> But the fact that most people are
00:35:27
probably only subscribed to one of these
00:35:30
AI models at a time. Right. So if you
00:35:32
are subscribed to Gemini versus Chacht,
00:35:35
you want to plug in all of your Gemini
00:35:36
stuff to your iPhone so that works
00:35:38
natively and Apple's happy to let you do
00:35:40
that. Um, it's more interesting that you
00:35:43
can choose which model for which
00:35:44
feature,
00:35:46
>> which I guess makes sense because, you
00:35:48
know, some models like Claude is better
00:35:50
at reasoning. So, if there was some sort
00:35:52
of reasoning feature in the iPhone, I
00:35:56
guess that's better for reasoning, you
00:35:58
would plug in your Claude model. Um, it
00:36:00
is kind of like a if you know, you know,
00:36:02
kind of thing. Like the average iPhone
00:36:04
user probably isn't going to be plugging
00:36:06
in a bunch of different models, but
00:36:08
yeah, you know.
00:36:09
>> Yeah. I really want to see what the UI
00:36:10
is for this because
00:36:12
>> I feel like if I'm trying to do I don't
00:36:14
know like Siri I want to have Siri be
00:36:17
accessing Gemini
00:36:19
>> but then for
00:36:21
>> image generation
00:36:22
>> chat GPT and then for circle to search
00:36:25
oh let's do Gemini again and then
00:36:27
>> like all those different things shortcut
00:36:29
automations let me use claude for that
00:36:31
>> what is that UI even going to look like
00:36:33
even saying out loud I'm kind of
00:36:35
confused
00:36:36
>> yeah maybe just it's a defaults page in
00:36:38
the settings like The way you can choose
00:36:39
your search engine default now by going
00:36:42
into settings and switching it from
00:36:43
Google to one of the other options on
00:36:45
the list
00:36:45
>> generation default.
00:36:46
>> If there's like a Apple intelligence
00:36:48
section in the settings, which there is,
00:36:50
and you go into all the different
00:36:51
features and can drop down a list and
00:36:54
change the defaults to all of them.
00:36:56
Yeah,
00:36:56
>> maybe there is a default for all of them
00:36:57
that lines up. Maybe it's Gemini for
00:36:58
everything, but then you can go go on
00:37:00
the list and change.
00:37:00
>> Yeah. My question becomes like how much
00:37:02
is this going to impact your usage
00:37:04
limits for all of these all these apps?
00:37:07
Cuz if you accidentally like hit all
00:37:09
your usage limits on Claude just by
00:37:10
using your iPhone and then you can't
00:37:12
really use it on your computer, that's
00:37:14
pretty annoying.
00:37:15
>> Yeah. Will it And will it be like an
00:37:17
extension that plugs into your account
00:37:18
with Claude or is it just uh like a
00:37:21
fully isolated instance of like asking
00:37:23
Claude for something but has no context
00:37:25
from your account?
00:37:26
>> I imagine
00:37:28
account
00:37:29
>> cuz right now when you ask for something
00:37:30
that Siri can't handle and it kicks out
00:37:32
to chat GPT that's not with the context
00:37:35
of your account. You can sign into your
00:37:36
account though.
00:37:37
>> You can sign in. Okay.
00:37:38
>> Yeah.
00:37:38
>> But when it wasn't signed in, it was
00:37:40
just however many queries you want. It
00:37:42
didn't matter.
00:37:43
>> The free version basically.
00:37:44
>> Yeah.
00:37:45
>> Yeah.
00:37:46
>> But there's still limits to the free
00:37:47
version. So, it's kind of And I don't
00:37:49
think Apple's going to want to pay that
00:37:50
bill for a bunch of regular people.
00:37:53
>> But it it would be interesting if you
00:37:55
couldn't use all of the features of your
00:37:57
iPhone unless you had an AI subscription
00:37:59
plan from a different company.
00:38:01
>> Interesting. Or apocalyptic?
00:38:04
I don't know about apocalyptic.
00:38:05
>> Definitely driving a lot of usage of
00:38:07
this stuff.
00:38:08
>> Yeah.
00:38:09
>> Yeah, for sure.
00:38:09
>> I don't know if there's anything Siri
00:38:10
can't handle, we'll just uh kick it out
00:38:12
to any of these companies.
00:38:13
>> Yeah. I mean, maybe it's possible that
00:38:15
these companies have are going to have
00:38:17
deals with Apple because they want
00:38:19
people to use their product more, right?
00:38:21
So, if Anthropic wants more people to
00:38:23
adopt Claude and they say, "Oh, you can
00:38:25
try Claude on the you can use Claude on
00:38:27
the iPhone for free." And then it
00:38:29
motivates people to use Claude on their
00:38:31
desktop.
00:38:32
>> Yep. Then that's good for anthropics for
00:38:34
them. It's possible.
00:38:35
>> Exactly.
00:38:36
>> Can I tell a funny Apple intelligence
00:38:37
story from last week? Yes. I uh I
00:38:40
decided to fire up uh what's it called?
00:38:42
Genoji.
00:38:43
>> I love D. I use it all the time.
00:38:45
>> Really? Because I
00:38:46
>> I'm biggest fan.
00:38:47
>> I cannot get anything useful out of it.
00:38:49
And to be fair, the story I'm about to
00:38:51
tell is mostly user error.
00:38:53
>> But but but what happened is is I was
00:38:55
like I needed a a a cowboy boot emoji.
00:38:58
>> Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:59
>> And so I I searched
00:39:02
>> I was just moving really fast and I just
00:39:04
searched boot and it it gave me a rain
00:39:06
boot and I was like, "Oh, I didn't get
00:39:07
specific enough. Silly me." So I put in
00:39:09
cowboy boot
00:39:11
>> and it put a cowboy hat on the rain
00:39:13
boot.
00:39:13
>> Wow.
00:39:16
>> That should know.
00:39:18
>> And I was like,
00:39:18
>> "That's incredible."
00:39:19
>> Okay,
00:39:20
>> that's so good. Last Apple story and
00:39:22
then we'll take it to trivia and a brag.
00:39:24
>> Yeah. Apple is going to need to pay
00:39:26
iPhone owners $250 million for not
00:39:29
delivering the AI Siri that they
00:39:31
promised everybody.
00:39:32
>> Yes.
00:39:32
>> Wow. Give me my $12.
00:39:35
>> Yes. Less than Well,
00:39:36
>> $12. That's way too much. You're getting
00:39:38
like a nickel.
00:39:38
>> Yeah.
00:39:39
>> I think it's actually It actually is
00:39:41
more $20. 25. It's between 25 and 95
00:39:44
depending on the circumstances.
00:39:45
>> Every iPhone user gets $20.
00:39:47
>> No, it's it's the people. Okay. Oh, let
00:39:49
me let me Okay. There's a class
00:39:51
actioning lawsuit that alleges that
00:39:52
Apple misled customers about Apple
00:39:54
intelligence and has gotten Apple to pay
00:39:56
between $25 and $95 to each person that
00:39:59
purchased an iPhone 15 Pro or any iPhone
00:40:02
16 between June 10th, 2024 and March
00:40:05
29th, 2025.
00:40:07
>> Mhm.
00:40:08
>> The lawsuit is alleging that Apple gave
00:40:09
people a clear and reasonable consumer
00:40:11
expectation that Apple intelligence
00:40:13
features would be available on these
00:40:14
phones while they ended up being
00:40:16
significantly limited or sometimes
00:40:18
entirely absent.
00:40:20
Um,
00:40:21
>> correct.
00:40:21
>> Uh, this is a story from The Verge and
00:40:23
they did speak they did reach out to
00:40:24
Apple and Apple spokesperson Marne
00:40:27
Goldberg told them that the company
00:40:29
decided to settle the matter so they
00:40:30
could get back to focusing on building
00:40:32
innovative products for their users. So,
00:40:36
it sounds like they just knew they
00:40:37
weren't going to win this, so they were
00:40:38
just like, just take the money, make it
00:40:40
go away.
00:40:40
>> Yeah.
00:40:41
>> I also think Apple just doesn't
00:40:43
financially want to get involved in like
00:40:45
the the circular AI. We're developing a
00:40:47
model buying chips from people who give
00:40:50
us money to buy their chip.
00:40:52
>> It's just, you know,
00:40:54
>> we know that you, the Way from audience,
00:40:56
misses Andrew so much. We don't miss him
00:40:58
at all, but you guys miss him. But if
00:41:01
you want to see what he's up to while
00:41:02
he's on paternity leave, he was recently
00:41:05
on a disc golf tournament.
00:41:06
>> Would you do paternity leave?
00:41:08
>> Because he said he's on paternity leave
00:41:10
and then these videos are dropping and
00:41:12
he's playing disc golf. Yeah.
00:41:14
>> Um, but yeah, there's a creators
00:41:15
tournament that's being posted weekly, I
00:41:17
think, online now. Uh, you guys can go
00:41:20
check him out and comment saying you're
00:41:22
coming from Waveform. So, we could uh
00:41:23
>> Oh, yeah.
00:41:24
>> like take over their comments. A comment
00:41:26
takeover, basically is what I'm
00:41:27
proposing.
00:41:28
>> Okay. If Andrew wins, what happens? And
00:41:30
if he loses,
00:41:31
>> that's a good one. What do we have him
00:41:33
do?
00:41:33
>> Oh, yeah. We got to make him do
00:41:34
something.
00:41:35
>> Okay. If he wins, he has to come back
00:41:38
and host a solo pod. a director's cut
00:41:41
narrating every shot he took.
00:41:43
>> Yes. Okay, that's a good one, too.
00:41:45
>> That's so
00:41:46
>> You're gonna You're gonna make him
00:41:47
Jaylen Brown.
00:41:49
>> He would do it. He would do it. Well, go
00:41:51
watch his uh disc golf tournament.
00:41:53
That'll be pretty fun.
00:41:54
>> Yeah.
00:41:55
>> And now the moment you've all been
00:41:57
waiting for that I'm also waiting for.
00:42:01
>> Trivia.
00:42:05
All right. First question. The
00:42:07
Chromebook Pixel came out in 2013.
00:42:10
>> Yeah.
00:42:11
>> What was the size of the screen closest?
00:42:14
Without going over.
00:42:15
>> Oh man.
00:42:16
>> Oh man. It was a touch screen
00:42:17
>> to the nearest decimal.
00:42:18
>> It was a little bit tall. It was like
00:42:20
3200 by 2,800.
00:42:21
>> Them bezels be thick though.
00:42:23
>> Be thick.
00:42:23
>> They were thick as real. Why do I know
00:42:25
all these things but not the size of the
00:42:27
screen?
00:42:28
>> Damn.
00:42:28
>> You just know the vibe, you know.
00:42:30
>> Yeah.
00:42:30
>> I still have one. I I tripped over it
00:42:32
yesterday.
00:42:33
>> So it's on the floor.
00:42:34
>> I'm not even joking. I tripped over it.
00:42:36
>> I've deduced that it's on the floor
00:42:38
tripping over.
00:42:39
>> David always keeps his laptops on the
00:42:40
floor. This is the only time I see
00:42:42
David's laptop on the desk when we're in
00:42:43
this room.
00:42:44
>> Yeah.
00:42:45
>> It's always slightly a jar, you know. On
00:42:48
the floor.
00:42:48
>> It was exactly $1,000 or No,
00:42:50
>> I think so. I think it's $9.99.
00:42:52
>> Everyone Everyone loved that it was
00:42:53
$1,000. If you went to IO, you got like
00:42:56
$400 off.
00:42:57
>> Oh, right. Yeah. People love that cuz
00:42:58
they would sell it
00:43:01
>> because they would get it for cheap.
00:43:02
>> I didn't sell mine. I bought it with
00:43:04
course. I also hardearned cash.
00:43:05
>> I also did that and then I reviewed it.
00:43:07
>> Damn. Chromebook.
00:43:08
>> I like that computer. It was cool
00:43:09
because it was like it was good
00:43:10
hardware. It was really really thin and
00:43:13
uh
00:43:14
>> an oxymoron.
00:43:15
>> Good hardware and thin.
00:43:16
>> No, the the Chromebook Pixels existence
00:43:18
of uh Oh, you only really need to do
00:43:20
Chrome because it's a Chromebook and you
00:43:22
kind of don't need to do much. Okay,
00:43:23
here's a cheap Chrome computer.
00:43:25
>> Yeah.
00:43:26
>> Oh. Oh, you want a premium laptop that
00:43:28
does way more? Well, it doesn't. It's
00:43:30
just a Chromebook,
00:43:32
>> but you can spend a,000. You don't
00:43:33
really need it to do by warm, but you
00:43:34
just want the hardware to be nice, you
00:43:35
know, and chip and a bunch of RAM and
00:43:38
all
00:43:38
>> using Chrome. You want to be able to
00:43:40
feel that hardware feels good
00:43:42
>> when you minimize the desktop and open
00:43:44
up Chrome again.
00:43:46
>> Yeah, that's right.
00:43:47
>> You want it to be nice and smooth.
00:43:48
>> That's absolutely You're absolutely
00:43:49
right, Marcus.
00:43:50
>> Yeah.
00:43:50
>> All right. Well, we'll think about that
00:43:52
answers at the end like usual. We'll be
00:43:54
right back.
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00:45:05
Welcome back with the six-pack. We are
00:45:07
here on the Waveform podcast playing
00:45:08
another game because there's noing news
00:45:11
this week.
00:45:12
>> Whoa, not enough.
00:45:13
>> We just spent 50 minutes talking about
00:45:15
news. Yeah, four stories. Four stories
00:45:18
in seven years ago. There was way more
00:45:20
freaking news than this week. So
00:45:21
>> yeah, you guys are yappers. It means
00:45:23
tomorrow.
00:45:23
>> Yeah,
00:45:24
>> it's all going to happen.
00:45:25
>> Oh, it's all God. You know, Thursday
00:45:26
news. What state that was originally set
00:45:28
in? Right.
00:45:29
>> New Jersey.
00:45:29
>> Pennsylvania vania, which is the same as
00:45:32
Philadelphia, which is where the 76ers
00:45:34
play.
00:45:35
>> Why'd you just throw something at
00:45:36
Mariah?
00:45:36
>> It was I threw something. It just kind
00:45:38
of went across.
00:45:39
>> Well, because there's no news.
00:45:41
>> Yeah, I actually gonna need that back.
00:45:42
We're gonna play
00:45:43
>> No,
00:45:44
>> we are going to play a game. Uh Adam
00:45:46
says it's the newlyweds game, but
00:45:48
contrary to popular belief, I'm not
00:45:49
married to Marquez.
00:45:50
>> Yeah.
00:45:51
>> Uh may happen later.
00:45:52
>> Yeah. TBD.
00:45:53
>> We'll see.
00:45:54
>> This is the same game we played earlier
00:45:56
this year. Andrew uh adapted it for
00:45:58
tech. And in his honor, because he is on
00:46:01
paternity leave, air quotes,
00:46:04
we are bringing it back to play it
00:46:05
again. So, if you don't remember how to
00:46:07
play, I will be asking you guys a
00:46:09
question and you need to answer what the
00:46:11
answer would be for your partner.
00:46:14
>> So, teams this week is going to be David
00:46:16
and Marquez versus Ellis and Mariah.
00:46:19
>> Okay.
00:46:19
>> Again, there's a plus five confidence
00:46:22
boost.
00:46:23
>> What is that? What does that mean?
00:46:25
>> You really know the answer. Yeah, we
00:46:27
played it.
00:46:27
>> I saw how poorly this went last time.
00:46:30
>> I was with this. If you really know the
00:46:32
answer that your partner's going to put
00:46:33
down, you can confidence boost and
00:46:35
you'll get plus five points.
00:46:36
>> Remember when we did the iPhone one and
00:46:37
we both knew that we were thinking like
00:46:39
iPhone 4S or something at the same time?
00:46:41
>> We were locked in last time.
00:46:42
>> We were locked.
00:46:43
>> Actually, you know what? Maybe I'll do
00:46:44
plus three. Plus five is like a kind of
00:46:47
a lot. I'll do plus three.
00:46:49
>> Okay. Are we ready?
00:46:50
>> Yeah. Anyone have any questions?
00:46:52
>> I don't think so.
00:46:52
>> Do you want to explain how it works for
00:46:53
the listeners?
00:46:54
>> Yeah.
00:46:55
>> I I thought I just did.
00:46:57
>> Listen up.
00:46:57
>> No, you didn't. Try that again.
00:46:59
>> Here's how it works. You just said
00:47:00
there's a confidence boost.
00:47:01
>> Al Andrew's Jesus.
00:47:05
>> Andrew's on paternity leave.
00:47:06
>> Here's how it works. Adam is going to
00:47:08
ask us a question. Like the whole group.
00:47:11
Two of us are going to write an answer
00:47:12
that question. Then our teammates are
00:47:14
going to guess what we wrote on our
00:47:16
boards.
00:47:16
>> Thank you, Ellis.
00:47:17
>> Thank you.
00:47:18
>> Okay.
00:47:18
>> I don't know what to do when you're not
00:47:19
here by my side. I'm all alone over
00:47:21
here. Such a big table and just little
00:47:23
old me.
00:47:24
>> Y.
00:47:25
>> First question.
00:47:26
>> All right.
00:47:27
>> Uh, who do I want to give this to? Let's
00:47:28
see.
00:47:29
Who gets first? Do you guys want to
00:47:30
decide? You guys decide.
00:47:32
>> How confident are you in your
00:47:34
partnership?
00:47:34
>> Winner chooses.
00:47:36
>> Wait, you guys are on the same team.
00:47:38
>> That's okay. I don't care.
00:47:39
>> Okay.
00:47:40
>> Well, it has to one or one or the other
00:47:42
has to get the question right.
00:47:43
>> Yeah.
00:47:43
>> So,
00:47:44
>> okay. On three or after three.
00:47:46
>> Rock, paper, scissors. Shoot.
00:47:47
>> Shoot. Okay.
00:47:48
>> Yeah. Ready? Rock, paper, scissors.
00:47:50
Shoot.
00:47:51
>> Rock, paper, scissors. Shoot.
00:47:52
>> H.
00:47:53
>> I choose you to answer first. So, y'all
00:47:57
two are going first. Okay, first
00:47:59
question.
00:48:01
>> What app would you say?
00:48:04
>> Wait, so I'm guessing what Marquez and I
00:48:06
are so good.
00:48:08
>> I'm answering.
00:48:09
>> How often do we talk about apps?
00:48:10
>> And you guess what? I would say
00:48:11
>> so often.
00:48:11
>> Yeah, we're like,
00:48:13
>> you know, when we text, it's it's all
00:48:14
app talk.
00:48:16
>> I figured your whole Slack message is
00:48:17
just about apps. Okay. What app would
00:48:20
your partner say is their guilty
00:48:21
pleasure?
00:48:23
>> Oh, so you're saying what app your
00:48:25
guilty pleasure is.
00:48:26
>> Okay. Okay. I'm wondering if you
00:48:28
>> What do I even have on this phone?
00:48:30
>> I'm wondering if you know this.
00:48:32
>> Wait, so I'm writing what my guilty
00:48:33
pleasure is and then Mariah is guessing.
00:48:35
>> Yes, exactly.
00:48:36
>> Okay.
00:48:38
>> So, Mariah, you're guessing my dirty
00:48:39
pleasure app.
00:48:40
>> Guilty.
00:48:41
>> Not dirty pleasures.
00:48:43
>> Definitely not dirty pleasure.
00:48:45
>> Can I Can I go back to my corner,
00:48:47
please?
00:48:48
>> I don't want to be here at the table,
00:48:51
>> guys. The lights are too bright.
00:48:54
>> Wait for after dark.
00:48:57
Thank you.
00:48:59
>> Waveform after dark.
00:49:02
>> Wow, that's deeper than I thought it
00:49:03
was.
00:49:04
>> I want to go home every time.
00:49:06
>> All right.
00:49:06
>> All right.
00:49:06
>> Let's see if Marquette's going to
00:49:07
remember.
00:49:08
>> What do you got?
00:49:08
>> Okay.
00:49:09
>> Um, I had two things come to mind. I
00:49:12
think yours is either some obscure
00:49:14
camera app or it's literally Instagram.
00:49:17
>> David would feel guilty for using a
00:49:19
camera app instead of a camera
00:49:20
>> like his like his eighth camera app or
00:49:22
something. But I also earlier on this
00:49:25
episode we were talking about how you
00:49:26
wish Instagram DMs were separate from
00:49:28
Instagram so you didn't have to use
00:49:29
Instagram so much. So I think it's
00:49:31
Instagram.
00:49:32
>> Do I tell him now?
00:49:33
>> Sure.
00:49:34
>> Okay.
00:49:34
>> Uh I don't get I don't get pleasure from
00:49:36
Instagram. I'll tell you that.
00:49:38
>> Um
00:49:38
>> we're so far away from guilt. I'm sorry
00:49:40
guys.
00:49:41
>> I will say it's Pokemon TCG Pocket
00:49:44
>> cuz the only game I have on my phone
00:49:46
besides a good game
00:49:47
>> besides Bellro.
00:49:48
>> Why is that your guilty pleasure?
00:49:50
>> Because I don't
00:49:51
>> you know I have spend no money on it.
00:49:54
You
00:49:55
>> But I still have guilt for playing
00:49:56
games.
00:49:57
>> Why?
00:49:58
>> Because we live in America.
00:49:59
>> We should work that out instead.
00:50:00
>> Have your fun. Play some games.
00:50:01
>> You're not still doing Bellatro, right?
00:50:03
>> I sometimes on the subway.
00:50:04
>> Okay.
00:50:05
>> It's good for the subway.
00:50:06
>> Batro is offline.
00:50:07
>> Play chess on your phone.
00:50:08
>> Oh, maybe I'll pick it up.
00:50:10
>> Chess.
00:50:11
>> Yeah.
00:50:12
>> Oh, we'll get to that. Marquez.
00:50:14
>> Okay.
00:50:14
>> Okay. Ellis.
00:50:15
>> Ellis.
00:50:16
>> Okay.
00:50:17
>> I think I'm putting all my eggs in one
00:50:19
basket. I don't know much about Ellis,
00:50:21
but from what I know in our four years
00:50:25
of uh
00:50:26
>> working together,
00:50:27
>> I'm going to put all my money on the
00:50:29
McDonald's app.
00:50:30
>> Oh, that would have been good.
00:50:32
>> Damn, that is good.
00:50:33
>> The app I feel guiltiest about using
00:50:36
because of everything that goes down on
00:50:39
it
00:50:40
is Twitter.
00:50:41
>> Oh yeah,
00:50:41
>> that's the Sixers are
00:50:44
>> unbelievably plentiful.
00:50:46
Yeah, Twitter has been a really safe
00:50:49
place for me lately, but the rest of
00:50:50
that app is an ocean of chaos.
00:50:52
>> That's the hard thing about Twitter is
00:50:54
it's still the people there are still
00:50:55
the funniest people and the memes are
00:50:57
still the funniest, but the the ratio of
00:50:59
that to just like racism and sexism and
00:51:02
nudity is crazy.
00:51:04
>> We hate it. Sorry, Ellis. I let you
00:51:06
down.
00:51:06
>> It's okay.
00:51:07
>> Damn. Maybe you guys couldn't make it up
00:51:08
with this one. All right. If your
00:51:10
partner could get rid of one overhyped
00:51:13
piece of tech from the last decade, what
00:51:15
would it be?
00:51:16
>> Oh gosh.
00:51:17
>> Just snap your fingers and it's gone.
00:51:18
>> This is Marquez's writing.
00:51:20
>> Yep. Overhyped piece.
00:51:22
>> This is hard. This is hard.
00:51:23
>> An overhyped piece of tech from the last
00:51:26
decade.
00:51:26
>> From the last decade.
00:51:27
>> I mean, I'm a hater.
00:51:30
>> So, it could be
00:51:31
>> new soundboard bite. H I don't even
00:51:39
>> Yeah, this is a tough one.
00:51:40
>> Mhm.
00:51:41
>> I I don't have an answer. I honestly
00:51:42
>> It could be software.
00:51:45
>> Could be software.
00:51:46
>> Overhyped.
00:51:47
>> Yeah, an overhyped piece of tech.
00:51:49
>> I
00:51:51
I could get rid of
00:51:52
>> Should I run it again?
00:51:54
>> Let's give you a little more time.
00:51:55
>> Yeah, run it again.
00:51:55
>> Overhyped
00:51:57
tech.
00:51:57
>> This is a hard one. This feels like a
00:51:59
copout.
00:52:00
>> It's like the first thing I can think
00:52:02
of.
00:52:03
But think about what your partner would
00:52:04
think of.
00:52:05
>> Ellis hates a lot of things.
00:52:06
>> I know.
00:52:08
>> Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:08
>> We're both haters. How do I pick my
00:52:10
biggest hate?
00:52:12
>> Overhyped. Let the hate flow through
00:52:14
you.
00:52:16
>> What would Mariah think is overhyped so
00:52:18
much?
00:52:19
>> What do you think that you think is
00:52:20
overhyped?
00:52:20
>> I don't have a good answer. I
00:52:22
>> I picked a norm answer.
00:52:23
>> This is bad. Um, I should just think of
00:52:26
something on the spot. overhyped
00:52:30
that I wish never happened. Get rid of
00:52:32
it.
00:52:33
>> That David would wish never happened.
00:52:35
>> No, no, no. It's that No, it's Marquez
00:52:37
and I guess what he
00:52:38
>> Oh, I'm sorry. You're right. I don't
00:52:39
know how this is what you did last time.
00:52:41
I don't know how to play this last time.
00:52:44
>> Okay. Uh, nope. No.
00:52:48
>> I feel like you don't want to get rid of
00:52:49
it, right? Like you you don't want to
00:52:51
get rid of it, but what do you think is
00:52:52
just overhyped? Say you don't have to
00:52:54
get rid of it, but just think of a piece
00:52:56
of tech that's overhyped.
00:52:59
from the last 10 years.
00:53:01
>> Yeah,
00:53:03
they're like what? It's it's whatever
00:53:04
compared to the hype that people be
00:53:07
behind it.
00:53:10
>> I don't know examples. I don't have
00:53:12
>> a true tech lover. He's a true lover of
00:53:15
tech.
00:53:16
>> Was it hype though?
00:53:18
>> Uh for some for some.
00:53:22
>> Are you guys from the same thing?
00:53:23
>> I really hope you didn't write the
00:53:24
humidity icon.
00:53:27
>> Um
00:53:29
Okay.
00:53:30
>> Damn. I mean, I have one that I think
00:53:32
Marquez would put, but I don't think
00:53:33
that he thought of it.
00:53:35
>> Okay.
00:53:36
>> So,
00:53:38
>> correct.
00:53:38
>> Yeah,
00:53:39
>> this is a softball.
00:53:41
>> I'm going to say the Humane AI pin
00:53:43
>> just because I think that's what he
00:53:44
wrote
00:53:45
>> at the last minute.
00:53:46
>> I wrote the humane pin.
00:53:48
>> Let's go.
00:53:49
>> One point. All right.
00:53:51
>> Yeah.
00:53:51
>> Ellis and Mariah.
00:53:52
>> Mariah, this is a tough one because
00:53:53
>> was it hyped up?
00:53:54
>> It was I mean, before it came out, it
00:53:56
was hella hyped.
00:53:57
>> Yeah. Dude, they were hyped.
00:53:59
Do you not remember like the year
00:54:01
leading up to it?
00:54:03
We'd go on the website and it would be
00:54:05
like, "We're not going to tell you what
00:54:06
it is,
00:54:07
>> but you're all they all hyped it and
00:54:10
everyone watched it and went, no, it's
00:54:12
not."
00:54:12
>> Yeah.
00:54:12
>> Well, once they announced it,
00:54:14
>> no, we all looked at them and went like,
00:54:15
"Why are they hyping this so much? It's
00:54:18
clearly not going to be
00:54:19
>> expectations, reality."
00:54:21
>> No, it was internal hype, expectations,
00:54:24
reality.
00:54:25
>> That's true.
00:54:25
>> That's true. What a what a Anyway,
00:54:27
Mariah, I know you're a hater, but I
00:54:29
also know you're someone that will live
00:54:31
with the tech products you hate for some
00:54:33
time. Uh there there was a while where
00:54:36
the slack was Mariah being like, "My
00:54:38
pixel watch is driving me."
00:54:39
>> She loves the Pixel Watch.
00:54:40
>> Correct me if I'm wrong though. Didn't
00:54:42
you lose a Pixel Watch because it fell
00:54:43
off your wrist and into a trash can and
00:54:45
you just decided you were not going to
00:54:47
get it? Like that it was I reached into
00:54:50
a trash can and it unclipped itself into
00:54:52
the trash can.
00:54:53
>> It was a walleye. like leaving it.
00:54:55
>> I am home.
00:54:56
>> I was going to leave it at a Wawa.
00:54:58
>> It was the first generation, by the way.
00:54:59
The Pixel Watch is good now, but the
00:55:00
first gen was horrible.
00:55:02
>> Audio listeners, it's still here.
00:55:04
>> She's still wearing the Pixel Watch.
00:55:05
>> My My instinct, you know, my first
00:55:07
instinct is to to make it something
00:55:09
gamer related, like gamer chairs.
00:55:12
>> But I think you wanted the point so bad
00:55:14
that you went with a very benol answer.
00:55:16
So, I am also going to say the humane
00:55:19
iP.
00:55:21
That's really unfortunate because that's
00:55:23
true.
00:55:24
>> We should have both of us should have
00:55:25
tripled down on that.
00:55:26
>> I was not what I was thinking that you
00:55:29
should have said, Marquez, because I
00:55:30
know that you just hate nostalgia.
00:55:31
>> Pixel Watch is good.
00:55:32
>> I know that you're like a nostalgia
00:55:33
hater. You're like, "This only exists
00:55:35
because of nostalgia."
00:55:37
>> Even though you're really hyped about
00:55:38
Backyard Baseball coming back.
00:55:40
>> Yes.
00:55:40
>> I would have just said,
00:55:41
>> which is also nostalgia.
00:55:43
>> Yeah.
00:55:43
>> Yeah. A final runner up for the new
00:55:45
soundboard was Marquez saying, "We've
00:55:47
just invented this really new cool
00:55:49
thing, but do you remember the old
00:55:52
thing?"
00:55:56
>> That's a good one.
00:55:57
>> Yeah. I would have said for you, I would
00:55:58
have done like emulators or something
00:56:00
because it's all nostalgia based.
00:56:01
>> Mario Kart 39.
00:56:03
>> Mario Kart.
00:56:05
>> Yeah.
00:56:06
>> Yeah.
00:56:07
>> Okay.
00:56:08
>> That's good. That's good.
00:56:09
>> This is somehow turning into the hater
00:56:10
awards, but I love it. All right, next
00:56:13
question.
00:56:13
>> I love this game.
00:56:16
>> At what battery percentage do you think
00:56:19
your partner starts freaking out and
00:56:20
looking for a charger?
00:56:22
>> Oh gosh.
00:56:24
>> Huh.
00:56:24
>> This is easy.
00:56:25
>> Yeah. What What battery percentage do I
00:56:27
start freaking out? Mariah,
00:56:28
>> I mean, Ellis is living large now. He's
00:56:31
got
00:56:31
>> That man came from a mini.
00:56:32
>> Yeah, he's no fear. He
00:56:34
>> probably gets a 3% and doesn't even
00:56:35
think twice.
00:56:37
>> David.
00:56:38
>> Yeah,
00:56:38
>> I have a theory for this one.
00:56:40
>> Okay.
00:56:41
Yeah, I Yeah, I get that.
00:56:43
>> Is it like closest?
00:56:44
>> Yeah. How close do we need to be?
00:56:46
>> There's a 100 digits.
00:56:47
>> Closest without going over.
00:56:48
>> Without going over.
00:56:49
>> Yeah,
00:56:54
>> what did you put?
00:56:57
>> Okay. I think I I got an answer.
00:56:59
>> Okay.
00:57:00
>> All right. I think I know what you would
00:57:01
say.
00:57:01
>> All right. I'm ready.
00:57:03
>> Should I go first?
00:57:03
>> Sure.
00:57:04
>> Yeah.
00:57:05
uh you're on an iPhone
00:57:07
>> and when you hit 20% on an iPhone, it
00:57:10
automatically switches the battery icon
00:57:12
to red and switches to low power mode.
00:57:14
And I think that's the exact moment you
00:57:15
start looking for a charger. So 20
00:57:19
>> uh 64.
00:57:20
>> Oo, you start to freak out at 6.
00:57:23
>> I have massive power anxiety, dude. I
00:57:25
have battery anxiety all the time. No,
00:57:27
it doesn't matter that it's the Air.
00:57:28
>> It does, though.
00:57:29
>> No.
00:57:29
>> Yeah,
00:57:30
>> pretty much any device.
00:57:31
>> The Air is never even over 64%.
00:57:33
>> Hey You take it off the charger. My air
00:57:35
is at 94 right now because I always keep
00:57:38
it on the charger.
00:57:38
>> We've been doing nothing for an hour.
00:57:40
How's it at 94?
00:57:41
>> Yeah, cuz I've been doing nothing.
00:57:42
>> So, it drains 6%.
00:57:44
>> Yeah. Sitting there.
00:57:45
>> Well, yeah. I guess
00:57:46
>> 64% on an iPhone 17 will last you the
00:57:49
rest of the day.
00:57:50
>> Yeah.
00:57:51
>> 17 Pro will last you like
00:57:53
>> two days, not weekend.
00:57:55
>> Either way, I get really anxious when my
00:57:57
devices hit 64.
00:57:58
>> Well, I didn't go over.
00:57:59
>> Yeah. So, you're 44 percentiles off.
00:58:02
>> 44. Yeah. Yeah. So, let's see what uh
00:58:04
see what they get.
00:58:05
>> What do you want to guess, Mariah?
00:58:07
>> I wish I had listened to You're not
00:58:08
going to say anything.
00:58:09
>> I I feel like you could go feral. I
00:58:13
think your phone could get pretty low
00:58:15
before you.
00:58:16
>> I have been known to be pretty feral
00:58:17
around these parts.
00:58:18
>> I'm thinking single digits.
00:58:19
>> That's what I think.
00:58:20
>> And my hunch is 5%.
00:58:24
>> This is really my fault. I don't even
00:58:25
know why I'm mad cuz I am feral. I PUT
00:58:28
ZERO.
00:58:29
I DON'T give a anymore.
00:58:31
>> I knew it. After that mini life, dude,
00:58:33
my phone goes all the way down and I'm
00:58:35
still with your friend being jealous.
00:58:36
Why would you?
00:58:37
>> Because I had a pro now. Like
00:58:39
>> that's the only number I can lose at.
00:58:42
>> I wrote it down and then Adam says
00:58:44
closest without going over and I knew.
00:58:47
>> I will say I knew that you would write
00:58:49
zero.
00:58:50
>> I was going to say like 1%.
00:58:52
>> I was three.
00:58:52
>> As soon as he said close without going
00:58:54
over, I was like, well, all of the
00:58:55
numbers are over. That is
00:58:57
>> that means we get the point. Yeah, we
00:58:59
>> by default
00:59:02
get the point like don't really charge
00:59:04
my phone that much.
00:59:06
>> Like I I regularly just like fall asleep
00:59:08
with it.
00:59:09
>> Well, the next question was going to be
00:59:11
what is your current battery percentage?
00:59:13
I just said
00:59:13
>> David just said it, so I have to ignore
00:59:14
that one.
00:59:15
>> Yeah, but it's Marquez's.
00:59:16
>> You said 94.
00:59:17
>> That's true.
00:59:18
>> That is true. Okay. Yeah. All right.
00:59:20
>> On which which phone of his?
00:59:21
>> Don't worry about it.
00:59:22
>> That's
00:59:22
>> That is fair. Okay. No, let's do the
00:59:24
Air.
00:59:24
>> They're very different. The Air. What is
00:59:26
the battery percentage on Mariah
00:59:28
Marquez's phone right now?
00:59:29
>> But are we doing close without going
00:59:31
over?
00:59:31
>> Closest without going over.
00:59:32
>> Without going over,
00:59:33
>> right?
00:59:35
>> H interesting.
00:59:38
>> Mar, what phone do you have right now?
00:59:40
>> I'm sorry to all of my Pixel lovers, but
00:59:43
we are now on the S24 Ultra.
00:59:46
>> Oh, wa. What happened here?
00:59:48
>> It's not by choice.
00:59:49
>> What happened to your Pixel?
00:59:50
>> I cursed. What happened? And Mariah
00:59:52
seems like a charges her phone every
00:59:54
night kind of person. And Mariah drives
00:59:57
to work, which means she charges her
00:59:58
phone in the car.
01:00:00
>> Sometimes does.
01:00:01
>> And she sat at her desk for about an
01:00:03
hour and a half.
01:00:03
>> What happened to your Pixel?
01:00:05
>> It fell one foot and the screen won't
01:00:08
turn on.
01:00:09
>> I cursed her.
01:00:10
>> Was it a six?
01:00:11
>> Uh, yeah.
01:00:12
>> Legendary. Yeah,
01:00:13
>> you're probably the last remaining Pixel
01:00:15
6.
01:00:15
>> Uh, support ends in October, so it was
01:00:18
fine.
01:00:19
>> That's fair. All right. Um, I'm going to
01:00:22
guess.
01:00:24
Okay. I think that it's at without going
01:00:28
over.
01:00:28
>> Yeah, without going over Marquez's
01:00:30
iPhone Air.
01:00:32
>> I think it's 72, but I'm going to give
01:00:34
myself a little buffer room. I'm going
01:00:35
to say 69.
01:00:36
>> Nice.
01:00:37
>> Thanks.
01:00:38
>> All right.
01:00:38
>> What is it? 83. See, this is what I'm
01:00:42
talking about. It's not that bad.
01:00:43
>> 83. Okay.
01:00:43
>> The battery is not that bad,
01:00:45
>> dude. It's 12:00.
01:00:46
>> We're not even halfway through the day.
01:00:48
>> Yeah, I know. Anything. Wait,
01:00:49
>> he's done nothing. What phone?
01:00:51
>> iPhone Air.
01:00:51
>> iPhone Air.
01:00:52
>> Oh, okay. Then I feel really confident
01:00:54
in my guess. So confident I'm using this
01:00:56
confidence.
01:00:57
>> Oh, snap.
01:00:58
>> Could be a plus three.
01:00:59
>> And I think Mariah has 84% battery or
01:01:03
greater.
01:01:04
>> And that is why I have 91%.
01:01:08
>> Damn triple.
01:01:09
>> I made it up. I made up for my 0% gaff.
01:01:12
>> Wow.
01:01:13
>> Plus three points for LS.
01:01:15
>> A trip. Is that what they call it? A
01:01:16
trip in basketball when you get a
01:01:18
triple.
01:01:19
>> A three-pointer. Sure, man.
01:01:20
>> Yeah, it could work.
01:01:20
>> What do they call it? A trip.
01:01:21
>> Well, I don't want to
01:01:22
>> honestly. Yeah.
01:01:23
>> Yeah, that works. Three.
01:01:24
>> Yeah, a trip.
01:01:25
>> My baby got a lot of trips.
01:01:27
>> All right.
01:01:27
>> He got an okay amount of trips. Okay.
01:01:30
>> I had the bobblehead.
01:01:33
>> The baby bobblehead.
01:01:34
>> Quick update on the score after that
01:01:35
confidence boost by Ellis.
01:01:37
>> And Mariah now have four total points.
01:01:40
>> David Marquez running up the rear with
01:01:43
two.
01:01:44
>> Okay. We can still get our confidence.
01:01:46
Lock it.
01:01:47
>> Yeah, we got to get this one.
01:01:48
>> Get it. All right. Okay. Is your partner
01:01:51
a read receipts person or a red receipts
01:01:54
person?
01:01:55
>> Oh,
01:01:56
>> I'm guessing I'm I'm guessing Marquez.
01:01:58
>> Wait, what?
01:01:58
>> No, you're saying
01:01:59
>> how do you say it? How do you pronounce
01:02:00
it? Read or read?
01:02:01
>> We've had this. We have literally yelled
01:02:03
at each other about this so many times.
01:02:05
>> I didn't know this was even a debate.
01:02:07
>> Yeah, we debate all the time the way
01:02:09
it's supposed to be said. Read receipts
01:02:10
or red receipts.
01:02:12
>> I don't even know what you're writing on
01:02:13
your whiteboard.
01:02:16
>> It's going to be the same.
01:02:19
Wait, what do you mean?
01:02:21
>> No, it's it's phonetic.
01:02:22
>> Okay.
01:02:23
>> Okay. Okay.
01:02:23
>> You write phonetically.
01:02:26
>> All right. What do we got?
01:02:27
>> I am not as confident in this as I want
01:02:29
to be.
01:02:30
>> Oh my goodness.
01:02:30
>> I'm not I'm not using your answer.
01:02:32
>> I'm not using it. I But I think you say
01:02:35
read receipts.
01:02:36
>> David is incorrect.
01:02:38
>> What happened to you? What happened?
01:02:40
It's red.
01:02:41
>> I thought you said read.
01:02:42
>> No, I said red. Read receipts. Okay.
01:02:44
>> OH, I
01:02:46
>> And you saved. That's why I didn't use
01:02:48
the confidence. That's why I didn't use
01:02:49
it.
01:02:50
>> We had to lock in Mark.
01:02:51
>> I forgot.
01:02:51
>> It's okay.
01:02:52
>> Damn. That's my fault.
01:02:53
>> It's okay.
01:02:54
>> Well, I'm correct, so it's fine.
01:02:56
>> Ry, I think you should use your
01:02:58
confidence boost here.
01:02:59
>> Do we each get one?
01:03:00
>> Yeah.
01:03:01
>> Oh,
01:03:01
>> I think you should.
01:03:02
>> I didn't know that. I thought it was one
01:03:03
per team.
01:03:03
>> No, every player gets one.
01:03:04
>> We got a lot.
01:03:05
>> I mean, if you feel confident.
01:03:06
>> I mean, there's only one right answer.
01:03:08
>> There is only one right answer.
01:03:09
>> There's no debate.
01:03:10
>> And I think we're in agreement.
01:03:11
>> Agree with you. So, I think you should
01:03:12
use it.
01:03:12
>> And it's
01:03:13
>> There's a lot of talking.
01:03:14
>> Are you using the confidence boost or
01:03:15
not?
01:03:16
>> I'm going to use the confidence boost on
01:03:17
>> Oh, snap.
01:03:18
>> Read receipts.
01:03:21
>> What the?
01:03:22
>> There's only one. Who says red receipts,
01:03:24
>> bro? Okay. Listen to me. Listen to me,
01:03:27
Mariah.
01:03:28
>> What?
01:03:28
>> Listen to me. Okay. A receipt, right?
01:03:32
>> A receipt means the other person has
01:03:34
seen it. Correct.
01:03:35
>> A receipt in
01:03:38
>> that means that they have read your
01:03:40
message.
01:03:40
>> Yeah.
01:03:41
A receipt is inherently a token
01:03:43
generated by an action in the past.
01:03:45
>> I don't want to hear it. I don't want to
01:03:47
hear it.
01:03:48
>> It's read.
01:03:49
>> It's read receipts. It's read.
01:03:50
>> Give me your logic.
01:03:52
>> Did you read it?
01:03:53
>> No.
01:03:54
>> There's a receipt.
01:03:54
>> They read it because you got the
01:03:56
receipt.
01:03:56
>> So, is this team red and team read?
01:03:58
>> You are the one that got the receipt and
01:04:00
they read your message.
01:04:00
>> You would never re You would never say
01:04:02
like this is a receipt of something I
01:04:03
buy. You would say this is a receipt of
01:04:05
something I bought because you did it in
01:04:07
the past. Yeah,
01:04:07
>> this receipt,
01:04:08
>> it's a receipt, which is something that
01:04:10
happened before.
01:04:11
>> This receipt is a token of them having
01:04:14
read my message.
01:04:15
>> But for some reason, the phrasing read
01:04:17
receipt, cuz we never say like grocery
01:04:19
receipt or or tax receipt or whatever.
01:04:21
We we use it's just a unique phrase of
01:04:23
read receipt, like we just happen to use
01:04:25
these words next to each other in this
01:04:26
way. No.
01:04:27
>> And for whatever reason, it's read
01:04:28
receipt. Read receipt doesn't
01:04:31
>> just doesn't work.
01:04:31
>> They read it.
01:04:32
>> They read it.
01:04:33
>> Yeah. So, you'd say they read it and
01:04:34
they got a read receipt when they read
01:04:35
it. You No, you got a red receipt when
01:04:37
they read it. You say
01:04:39
>> read receipt.
01:04:40
>> Read receipt. You do not get a receipt
01:04:42
of your own message.
01:04:44
>> This ised up.
01:04:45
>> I got a Why would you do this?
01:04:47
>> I get the receipt.
01:04:48
>> David, when do I get the receipt? When
01:04:50
they read your message, when they read
01:04:52
my message, I miss
01:04:53
>> because they have so read receipt, but
01:04:55
they have read it by the time you get
01:04:56
the receipt. No, when they read it, I
01:04:59
get a receipt. Read receipt. No, it's
01:05:02
their read receipt, but it's your red
01:05:03
receipt. How about that?
01:05:06
>> What's the next question?
01:05:06
>> We need to move on. This is
01:05:08
disappointing.
01:05:08
>> We've already done this debate many
01:05:10
times on this podcast.
01:05:11
>> Yeah, that's tough. This
01:05:12
>> is your fault.
01:05:15
>> You threw a head fake completely wrong
01:05:17
direction.
01:05:18
>> That's great. I love it.
01:05:18
>> All that talking worked out in Marquez's
01:05:20
favor.
01:05:21
>> Yeah.
01:05:21
>> All right.
01:05:22
>> Yeah.
01:05:22
>> Next question. I'll go a little easier
01:05:25
this time.
01:05:26
>> Okay.
01:05:27
>> It's right.
01:05:28
>> Okay.
01:05:29
>> It is right.
01:05:29
>> You can be wrong. It's fine.
01:05:31
>> Ellis and I are right.
01:05:32
>> It's okay to be wrong. If your partner
01:05:34
could only use one phone for the rest of
01:05:37
their life, what would it be? Assume the
01:05:39
phone is in working condition forever.
01:05:40
>> How specific do I need to be? Like one
01:05:42
phone at all.
01:05:43
>> One phone. I I need model. Yeah. It
01:05:45
doesn't need to be like the gigabyte
01:05:47
storage, you know, like whatever. But
01:05:50
>> like phone one phone person
01:05:52
>> that will work forever. It's a one phone
01:05:54
person.
01:05:55
>> Oh my god.
01:05:56
>> But they can't switch off of that phone.
01:05:58
What would it be?
01:05:59
>> That's That's kind of tough.
01:06:00
>> Oh, it's for me.
01:06:02
>> It's my phone. your phone.
01:06:04
>> Yep.
01:06:04
>> So, Oh, yeah.
01:06:05
>> You need to guess, David.
01:06:06
>> I'm guessing. Yeah.
01:06:06
>> Yeah. Okay,
01:06:08
>> Ellis. I don't
01:06:10
>> I don't know.
01:06:15
>> Okay, I'm going to guess the S26 Ultra.
01:06:20
>> Why would you guess that?
01:06:24
>> Really? That's like I don't know.
01:06:28
>> Really?
01:06:30
>> Not anymore.
01:06:31
>> No. OnePlus 15
01:06:34
>> iPhone 17 Pro.
01:06:35
>> Just give me the big one. That'll get a
01:06:37
ton of years of software updates.
01:06:39
>> Oh, you thought way too practical.
01:06:41
>> I for you. I would have put HTC 1 M8.
01:06:43
Like this is the phone that I can use
01:06:44
forever.
01:06:44
>> That's a different question. That's a
01:06:45
different question.
01:06:46
>> One phone that you can use forever.
01:06:48
Doesn't like assume it's working
01:06:49
forever. Perfectly functioning,
01:06:51
perfectly, you know.
01:06:52
>> Oh, a hypothetical phone that will work
01:06:53
forever.
01:06:54
>> S26 Ultra. M
01:06:56
>> no, I I mean I would probably use like
01:06:59
an older like a from past, but it's just
01:07:02
because you were always switching back
01:07:04
to both the S24 and the S25 Ultras,
01:07:07
>> but notably not the S26 Ultra. So why
01:07:09
would you know that?
01:07:10
>> I know that. But I
01:07:13
>> This is the first year he's like mating
01:07:15
a OnePlus.
01:07:16
>> Damn.
01:07:17
>> Yeah,
01:07:17
>> we tried.
01:07:18
>> Yep. Good.
01:07:18
>> But you didn't like the camera on the
01:07:20
OnePlus, right?
01:07:20
>> Not really.
01:07:21
>> Yeah. So that's why I was
01:07:22
>> Yeah, but that's why he has an iPhone
01:07:23
air for that awesome single camera.
01:07:24
>> Yeah. What are you even doing for
01:07:25
photography?
01:07:26
>> An Opaind X9 Ultra.
01:07:27
>> You have three phones with you now?
01:07:29
>> Yes.
01:07:30
>> What? When did this happen?
01:07:31
>> I have a backpack for that.
01:07:33
>> Wait, but don't you have the Hustle
01:07:34
Blood in a backpack?
01:07:35
>> Not all the time.
01:07:36
>> That thing is heavy as hell.
01:07:38
>> Use the hustle.
01:07:38
>> Marquez, have you seen those harmony
01:07:40
outside? Do you
01:07:41
>> do you know the harmonica vests?
01:07:44
>> Kind of
01:07:44
>> like if you if you're really serious
01:07:46
about harmonica, you have one in every
01:07:47
key. It's you you wear a vest and you
01:07:49
keep I think we might You're getting
01:07:51
close to phone vest. I got the iPhone
01:07:53
air pocket, the X9 Ultra Pocket.
01:07:55
>> Michael Fisher used to have one of
01:07:56
those, like a little
01:07:58
>> dual chest strap thing. I could do that.
01:08:00
I could rock that.
01:08:01
>> Yeah. Okay. Anyway, Ellis Mariah.
01:08:03
>> The first thing I have to deduce is
01:08:04
whether or not you answered this
01:08:06
question realistically or fancifully and
01:08:08
went with like a like a feature phone
01:08:10
that is somehow like miraculously
01:08:11
working on modern or if you went, you
01:08:14
know, the realistic answer.
01:08:15
>> I'm curious what Mariah would say.
01:08:17
>> I think I kind of panicked. I'm not
01:08:19
going to lie.
01:08:20
>> I think I know. I think I
01:08:24
>> I'm going to
01:08:24
>> Marz doesn't like my answer.
01:08:26
>> Yeah, I'm going to assume that means you
01:08:27
went realistic and if you panicked, it
01:08:29
means you went with something reliable.
01:08:31
So, I'm going to say
01:08:34
that you went with your classic coral
01:08:38
Pixel 6.
01:08:39
>> That's my guess.
01:08:40
>> That would be the safe answer and
01:08:42
probably a more rational choice than I
01:08:44
need
01:08:45
>> than the Pixel 3a.
01:08:46
>> Why would you 3A?
01:08:48
>> The 3A.
01:08:49
>> That's so specific. cuz I had the Pixel
01:08:51
Pixel 3a and it was the nostalgia. I
01:08:54
missed the back. Didn't have the
01:08:55
fingerprint on the back.
01:08:56
>> Yeah, it did. That's a good
01:08:58
>> small
01:09:00
the teal power button, right? Is that
01:09:02
the one?
01:09:02
>> No, that's the two.
01:09:03
>> Didn't have different um
01:09:05
>> The 3A I don't think had that. The four
01:09:07
the four
01:09:08
>> I'm remembering. The two
01:09:09
>> the 4A had
01:09:10
>> the three
01:09:11
>> 4A came in in a pink color or orange
01:09:14
color. We had a big
01:09:15
>> The four did. The four came in this the
01:09:18
not the 4A. It was purely
01:09:20
>> 4A came in four. Yeah, that's what I'm
01:09:22
saying.
01:09:22
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah, like salmon.
01:09:24
>> Yeah, salmon.
01:09:24
>> It was just small. It's portable.
01:09:26
>> It's not small.
01:09:27
>> And it was affordable.
01:09:28
>> The the 3A was bigger than the 3.
01:09:32
>> Well, 3 XL, I think, was bigger. No, but
01:09:34
no, the 3A was bigger than the 3.
01:09:36
>> Maybe my memory doesn't serve me well.
01:09:38
>> Yeah, it was annoyingly big. The
01:09:40
nostalgia glasses.
01:09:41
>> These are all big, which is annoying.
01:09:42
>> Yeah, it was a terrible answer.
01:09:43
>> No, I just find it hilarious that you
01:09:44
chose an A series phone like was going
01:09:46
to get that.
01:09:47
>> Yeah. All right, we got to lock back in.
01:09:49
>> Locky. Lock back in.
01:09:50
>> Locked back in.
01:09:51
>> Stay locked out. Please
01:09:52
>> stay locked.
01:09:52
>> We're locked out. We got to lock in.
01:09:54
>> Well, one point ahead, but with no
01:09:56
bonuses.
01:09:56
>> No, two points ahead.
01:09:58
>> Two points ahead, but no bonus. We both
01:10:00
have our bonuses.
01:10:00
>> They both have their bonuses. Okay,
01:10:02
>> next question. Window seat or aisle
01:10:04
seat?
01:10:06
>> Like what would Marquette Oh, would I
01:10:07
do?
01:10:08
>> Yes.
01:10:08
>> Oh, yeah.
01:10:09
>> Well, look how fun the buttons on the
01:10:10
Pixel 3a are.
01:10:11
>> Oh, no. I'm actually No, that's valid. I
01:10:14
was picturing this accent. You do book
01:10:16
my flights, Marquez.
01:10:18
>> Well, Harper does.
01:10:19
>> I know. Which is crazy because I have
01:10:20
logic for why you would say both.
01:10:22
>> Oh, yeah.
01:10:24
>> I know the answer.
01:10:24
>> I think I know the answer.
01:10:25
>> Yeah.
01:10:26
>> This is another 50/50 split
01:10:28
>> because of of booking in the past,
01:10:30
>> right?
01:10:30
>> Because of
01:10:31
>> I'm going use my
01:10:35
>> This is I'm not going to say
01:10:38
>> I can't use it yet. I can't use it yet.
01:10:40
I can't use my confidence yet. Okay.
01:10:42
My logic is David's bringing his camera.
01:10:46
He's definitely going to want a window
01:10:47
seat to take pictures out the plane
01:10:50
window. However,
01:10:52
I think I'm the only one who prefers a
01:10:55
window seat when I've booked people in
01:10:56
the studio. They either say, "Give me an
01:10:58
aisle or I don't care." So, I think
01:11:00
David is one of the aisle people.
01:11:04
>> That's your official guess.
01:11:05
>> Yeah.
01:11:05
>> God, I'm always
01:11:07
>> always window this question.
01:11:09
>> Yeah, cuz I love you preferred window.
01:11:11
Always. Always.
01:11:12
>> The only reason I say I don't care is so
01:11:14
that other people can get Windows C. I
01:11:16
think we're all Windows C people.
01:11:17
>> Is this about when we're flying for
01:11:21
I don't want to ask this question cuz it
01:11:22
makes me sound like an
01:11:24
>> Is this about business class or economy
01:11:25
class?
01:11:26
>> Wow. You rich.
01:11:27
>> I know. I know. I didn't want to. It
01:11:30
does matter. That drastically Yes, that
01:11:31
changes my answer.
01:11:33
>> That's true. Yeah, that's a big
01:11:34
difference.
01:11:34
>> So So what is it
01:11:35
>> for me? It doesn't matter.
01:11:36
>> Well, what' you put down?
01:11:37
>> I put down
01:11:38
>> I can't say a different answer. Oh,
01:11:40
interesting. No, that I I put down
01:11:42
economy cuz I'm a man of the people.
01:11:45
>> In which case you prefer
01:11:47
>> one thing, but
01:11:48
>> Yeah. Yeah.
01:11:48
>> But
01:11:50
>> 100%.
01:11:51
>> Okay. I think that helps me know what
01:11:52
you said.
01:11:53
>> Yeah.
01:11:53
>> Well, doesn't matter what you say.
01:11:55
>> Okay. Well, with my deductive reasoning
01:11:58
>> and my 5050% chance of getting it,
01:12:01
right?
01:12:01
>> Um I do know on United that the aisle
01:12:04
seat has smaller footroom.
01:12:07
>> What? Really?
01:12:09
>> Yeah. or like when you're putting your
01:12:10
backpack under. Actually, the backpack
01:12:12
room is smaller than the window seat,
01:12:14
which is
01:12:15
>> the heat rails.
01:12:15
>> But I do know you're a man of long legs.
01:12:18
>> And so
01:12:19
>> my legs the long way.
01:12:21
>> That does make me feel like you would
01:12:23
prefer more space.
01:12:25
>> Mhm.
01:12:25
>> You like a view, but I feel like you
01:12:27
value being closer to the snacks, which
01:12:29
makes me feel like
01:12:31
>> this is the most like llm.
01:12:35
>> No, wait. You like a view, but you also
01:12:38
prefer
01:12:38
>> I cannot answer this question.
01:12:40
>> And I feel like you are an aisle seat.
01:12:43
>> You nailed it, Mariah. Also, and now
01:12:48
Soundboard 2.0 has a long way button. If
01:12:50
you go to page one,
01:12:52
>> waveform podcast, the long way.
01:12:57
>> Nice.
01:12:58
>> Okay, we got to lock in.
01:12:59
>> Damn, we got to use our doubles if
01:13:01
>> we never mentioned we updated the
01:13:02
soundboard. You guys have been asking
01:13:03
for weeks.
01:13:04
>> True.
01:13:04
>> There's a lot of new stuff on here. A
01:13:05
lot of new sounds.
01:13:06
>> We're trickling them out. Yeah.
01:13:08
>> Nice.
01:13:08
>> All right. They'll be rolling out over
01:13:10
the upcoming weeks.
01:13:11
>> Lock in. Lock in. We need this
01:13:12
three-pointer right now.
01:13:13
>> Two three pointers.
01:13:14
>> We need this tray.
01:13:15
>> Try
01:13:18
>> trip. Let's We need this trip.
01:13:20
>> Yep.
01:13:20
>> Triple double flip.
01:13:22
>> Your partner is making a list of specs
01:13:24
in a Google doc.
01:13:26
>> Okay.
01:13:26
>> Are they using dashes or bullet points?
01:13:29
>> Oh, no.
01:13:31
>> What kind of question is this?
01:13:32
>> No, dude. It's
01:13:33
>> designed to make you fight,
01:13:34
>> dude.
01:13:35
Andrew and I
01:13:36
>> Wait up. Don't give too much away.
01:13:39
>> That's true. I can't say.
01:13:41
>> Well, no, but Marquez is the one that's
01:13:44
I'm guessing him, so it doesn't matter.
01:13:47
>> Doesn't matter what I put.
01:13:48
>> Okay.
01:13:49
>> Andrew and I kind of co-write the
01:13:50
podcast together and I use bullet points
01:13:53
and he uses dashes and it's infuriating
01:13:57
and I'm sure it's also infuriating for
01:13:58
him that I that I
01:14:01
>> What's getting this argument?
01:14:02
>> I love the bullet points.
01:14:03
>> Why? I don't know, man.
01:14:04
>> I have a real big brain answer for this.
01:14:07
>> I have a small brain answer, and it
01:14:08
proves that I'm right.
01:14:10
>> That's also the big brain answer,
01:14:11
surprisingly.
01:14:12
>> All right, Flip Marie, what do we got?
01:14:14
>> Smooth out your brain.
01:14:14
>> Wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
01:14:15
Don't, don't do that.
01:14:16
>> Wait, we're not ready yet. We guessed.
01:14:18
>> We haven't guessed yet.
01:14:20
>> You're right. I'm in trivia mode.
01:14:21
>> Yeah, I know. Like, do not flip and
01:14:23
read.
01:14:24
>> All right. Should I trip it right now?
01:14:25
Should I trip this? It is 50/50.
01:14:28
>> Triple double.
01:14:28
>> It might be worth tripping.
01:14:30
>> I'm going to trip it.
01:14:32
>> Trip. I'm tripping for uh bullets.
01:14:35
Marquez,
01:14:39
>> thank you. Marquez
01:14:42
dashes for me, dog. Dashes.
01:14:47
>> He literally just said he uses bullets.
01:14:48
>> No, no, I use bullets. Marquez. Andrew
01:14:51
uses dashes.
01:14:52
>> Oh, I see.
01:14:53
>> Where do you think you got that from?
01:14:55
>> Daddy.
01:14:58
>> Ellis, you're up. Yeah, I'm just trying
01:15:00
to think if I've we've definitely
01:15:01
collabed on a Google doc before. I just
01:15:03
can't remember what you do, but I'm I
01:15:05
believe so strongly that one of these is
01:15:08
the right answer. And I believe that
01:15:10
answer is dashes, which is why I'm going
01:15:12
to say, Mariah, you're probably a bullet
01:15:14
point person. Let's go.
01:15:16
>> Nice.
01:15:17
>> I knew if I went with my gut, I'd be
01:15:19
wrong.
01:15:19
>> I should have known that, too.
01:15:21
>> I like dashes because you don't need to
01:15:22
click the mouse.
01:15:24
>> That's true. That's true.
01:15:25
>> You don't need to click the mouse. If
01:15:27
you just hit the dash button on a on a
01:15:29
new line and then hit space, it it goes
01:15:30
into formatting. Whereas
01:15:32
>> But it turns it into a bullet.
01:15:33
>> No, it turns into
01:15:34
>> I think that's if you hit enter, it
01:15:35
turns it into a bullet.
01:15:36
>> No, it never it never turns it into a
01:15:37
bullet.
01:15:37
>> I do it all the time.
01:15:38
>> I never
01:15:39
>> Wait, so you do use bullets?
01:15:40
>> No, I I hit a dash and hit space and it
01:15:43
makes it a bullet.
01:15:44
>> In bullets.
01:15:45
>> Maybe it's not Google Docs. Use bullets.
01:15:47
>> So in Apple Notes, I can say with 100%
01:15:50
certainty it's dashes.
01:15:50
>> Yeah, but it's Apple Notes.
01:15:52
>> Tic tac. I know makes it bullets, but
01:15:54
maybe
01:15:54
>> the question was Google Docs. Yeah, it
01:15:56
was about Google Docs.
01:15:56
>> I think in Google Docs it's also dash
01:15:59
>> either. What do you think happens? Let
01:16:00
me test it out right now.
01:16:01
>> So if you hit create a new line. Yeah.
01:16:04
>> Create a new line.
01:16:05
>> Hit dash and then hit space. And then it
01:16:08
should indent it.
01:16:09
>> It stays a dash.
01:16:10
>> Let's go.
01:16:12
>> But it indents it.
01:16:13
>> Yeah,
01:16:14
>> it indents it, but it stays a dash.
01:16:15
>> But I think you might be thinking of
01:16:16
tick tick.
01:16:17
>> Yeah, there's a couple apps that treat
01:16:18
it differently. Damn.
01:16:19
>> Yeah.
01:16:19
>> Wow. Another zero.
01:16:21
>> I'm sorry. How many points we got right
01:16:22
now?
01:16:23
>> Six points. All right, Marquez, you got
01:16:25
to you got to use your trip on me.
01:16:27
>> I do. I do.
01:16:28
>> You got to know what I'm thinking.
01:16:30
>> Yeah, I'm trying to
01:16:31
>> lock in.
01:16:32
>> I'm locking in.
01:16:32
>> Lock in.
01:16:33
>> Yeah.
01:16:33
>> Okay. All right.
01:16:34
>> Are we ready?
01:16:34
>> Mhm.
01:16:35
>> If they had to use one kind of phone for
01:16:38
the next year, would it fold or flip?
01:16:42
>> Me?
01:16:42
>> You got to pick one.
01:16:50
>> Oh god.
01:16:51
>> Sorry.
01:16:52
For the next one year.
01:16:54
>> For the next year. Just a year.
01:16:55
>> Okay.
01:16:56
>> No.
01:16:57
>> No.
01:16:57
>> It's terrible.
01:16:59
>> No, it's okay. I'm the sound guy.
01:17:02
>> Okay. I got one. I think I got one.
01:17:05
>> I'm nervous.
01:17:08
>> My eraser looks like pig pen from the
01:17:10
peanuts. My board does because of the
01:17:12
lack of quality of my eraser.
01:17:14
>> I'm nervous.
01:17:14
>> I think Maria should go first.
01:17:16
>> Mariah, what I put?
01:17:18
>> I feel like it's the opposite of what I
01:17:20
would do.
01:17:20
>> It is. You don't even know what I'm
01:17:22
going to say.
01:17:23
>> I do know what you're going to say. I do
01:17:24
know what you're going to say. Can't
01:17:25
tell you yes or no.
01:17:26
>> I have tiny pockets, so I'd want the
01:17:27
flip. So, I feel like you want the fold.
01:17:29
>> Exactly. Cuz I love That was really
01:17:30
loud. I'm sorry about that. I love
01:17:32
performatively reading. And there's
01:17:34
nothing better than on a folding.
01:17:36
>> It's like a book, but not
01:17:37
>> when you have the f a folding phone
01:17:38
folded out and you're able to have two
01:17:40
columns of text. It actually is like a
01:17:42
game changer.
01:17:42
>> And it says, "Look at me."
01:17:44
>> Yep.
01:17:44
>> Yeah.
01:17:44
>> Look at me.
01:17:45
>> Mhm. Not quite as much as a book. I'm
01:17:47
reading.
01:17:48
>> I'm better than you.
01:17:49
>> I don't want to use my copy.
01:17:53
Even in your fantasy, you have sixers
01:17:55
going to the game seven.
01:17:56
>> I be careful
01:17:58
>> because that's
01:17:59
>> I'm like 78% sure.
01:18:02
>> Okay.
01:18:02
>> Of this one.
01:18:03
>> 78, not 67.
01:18:05
>> But unfortunately, that means 22%
01:18:08
unsure, which is like one for five.
01:18:10
>> Yeah.
01:18:10
>> And I don't I think you would want to
01:18:13
max out
01:18:15
>> and get a fold. It's one year. You could
01:18:19
you could
01:18:21
edit photos. You could use Yeah, I would
01:18:23
I'm gonna go with fold.
01:18:25
>> Fold. Okay,
01:18:26
>> let's go.
01:18:27
>> Nice.
01:18:27
>> I didn't use a confidence.
01:18:28
>> You did not use a confidence.
01:18:30
>> Yeah,
01:18:31
>> I wasn't confident.
01:18:32
>> Yeah, I haven't used a flip a flip since
01:18:35
the first Z flip.
01:18:36
>> They're fun.
01:18:37
>> Yeah, the flip seven's fantastic.
01:18:39
>> The new ones are great.
01:18:40
>> Yeah, I should try one of the new ones.
01:18:41
It's been a while.
01:18:42
>> Okay, next question.
01:18:44
>> Yeah, we didn't fall behind.
01:18:45
>> Did not fall behind. No,
01:18:47
>> we need to he hit a huge three to cut
01:18:48
the lead.
01:18:50
>> Huge trip. Huge trip.
01:18:51
>> Yeah.
01:18:52
>> Yeah. What is one thing that your
01:18:54
partner actually uses AI for?
01:18:58
>> Go.
01:18:59
>> Oh, I don't
01:19:01
>> um editing his videos.
01:19:04
>> I've answered this on podcast already.
01:19:06
>> Am I allowed to guess?
01:19:07
>> Nothing.
01:19:09
>> Sure. Yeah, that's enough. That's
01:19:10
>> I wish I could use my trip right now cuz
01:19:11
I know this.
01:19:14
>> Damn.
01:19:15
Wait, why can't you use your trip?
01:19:17
>> Cuz I already used Dread already.
01:19:21
>> I think I know this. I might not.
01:19:25
>> No.
01:19:28
>> Oh, wait. What did I I guess I didn't
01:19:30
have to write it down. Okay. I wrote
01:19:33
Well, I I'm saying brainstorming.
01:19:37
>> Marquez.
01:19:37
>> That is Does that count?
01:19:38
>> The second thing I use it for. But
01:19:41
>> the number one thing I use it for use it
01:19:43
for emails. Yeah, you guys all looked at
01:19:45
me like I had my head chopped off.
01:19:48
>> Um,
01:19:48
>> I hate when I get an email that was
01:19:50
clearly written by AI.
01:19:51
>> That's why I make it unclear.
01:19:53
>> Keep them guessing.
01:19:55
>> Yeah,
01:19:55
>> honestly, all of the emails.
01:19:57
>> Damn.
01:19:58
>> AI talking to AI anymore.
01:19:59
>> At least I didn't use my trip. You know
01:20:00
what I'm saying?
01:20:01
>> Yeah.
01:20:02
>> True.
01:20:02
>> Yeah.
01:20:03
>> Mariah, you're not wrong. That's also
01:20:06
what Yeah.
01:20:06
>> My first instinct, Mariah, is that you
01:20:09
wrote You don't use it for anything. But
01:20:11
I do know of one thing that you used it
01:20:13
you use it for occasionally and I just
01:20:15
don't know if you put it or not because
01:20:17
it's so infrequent which is when you had
01:20:21
a pixel editing photos to make them
01:20:23
funny in Slack. Like you did the one of
01:20:26
you touching the ceiling and jumping
01:20:28
really high.
01:20:29
>> Oh yeah.
01:20:29
>> Um
01:20:30
>> that was funny.
01:20:31
>> But I don't think you did that. I think
01:20:33
you wrote
01:20:35
nothing.
01:20:36
>> I think nothing was my default. But then
01:20:40
I realized I actually do use it mainly
01:20:43
to
01:20:44
>> compile lists. So I'll feed it like an
01:20:48
image that I want it to turn into a list
01:20:49
or a receipt and I want it to break it
01:20:52
down
01:20:53
>> and that's all I really
01:20:54
>> Wait, that's actually a really smart use
01:20:55
case.
01:20:56
>> Yeah, I'm not going to do the math. I
01:20:57
don't figure it out.
01:20:58
>> It's valid.
01:21:00
>> Otherwise, nothing.
01:21:01
>> Okay, sick.
01:21:02
>> Well, score is still seven to three. Go.
01:21:05
>> Lock in. Lock in.
01:21:06
>> Who has their trips left?
01:21:08
>> Only Marquez. Just me. I guess I got to
01:21:10
use it soon.
01:21:10
>> Okay.
01:21:11
>> How many questions are left?
01:21:12
>> Um, I have
01:21:14
>> enough for us to win.
01:21:15
>> I have five questions left, but
01:21:17
>> enough.
01:21:17
>> AI has like 30 pulled up. So,
01:21:20
>> okay, David.
01:21:20
>> Yeah, I'm ready.
01:21:21
>> Lock.
01:21:22
>> Locked the
01:21:24
>> I'm in. Locked and loaded.
01:21:26
>> Speaking of locking in, great segue.
01:21:28
What is one sign that your partner is
01:21:30
locked in and in the zone and should not
01:21:32
be bothered?
01:21:34
>> Me.
01:21:36
>> So, y'all are they're answering. I I
01:21:38
already forgot who was writing
01:21:40
>> who just
01:21:41
>> a sign. Okay. Yeah, I think that's a
01:21:42
pretty clear one.
01:21:43
>> Okay. Trying to think if there's any
01:21:45
others.
01:21:49
>> Quick reminder, the only one with a trip
01:21:51
is Marquez. I think I'm going to use it.
01:21:54
>> Really?
01:21:55
>> Damn, David. I think this trip thing
01:21:56
might stick. I'm going to start calling
01:21:58
him that.
01:21:59
>> Mike baby with the trip.
01:22:01
>> Yeah, why not?
01:22:02
>> Sure.
01:22:05
>> Also still writing. Sorry, I I I I wrote
01:22:08
tried to write a letter, but it looked
01:22:09
like another letter and I didn't want
01:22:10
the the viewers to laugh at me.
01:22:13
>> They're going to do that anyway.
01:22:14
>> They they and I welcome it, man.
01:22:16
>> I'm wearing a blue dog on my head like
01:22:20
>> this is not.
01:22:22
>> All right.
01:22:22
>> Should I go first?
01:22:23
>> Yeah.
01:22:24
>> You're using
01:22:25
>> I'm using my I'm using my confidence.
01:22:26
>> Oh, snap.
01:22:27
>> My three.
01:22:27
>> Okay.
01:22:28
>> Using the trip.
01:22:29
>> I think when David's locked in, he's got
01:22:30
his AirPods in. Don't interrupt what
01:22:33
he's doing. He's He's in the zone. Okay,
01:22:36
>> let's just live my AirPods in.
01:22:38
>> He's got headphones on somehow. Yeah,
01:22:40
>> David.
01:22:41
>> Uh, does this count? I can't hear you.
01:22:44
>> The does that mean?
01:22:46
>> What do you mean by that?
01:22:47
>> Okay. You know when Okay. It's like when
01:22:50
I'm locked in, right? I'm like I'm
01:22:52
working on something and I'm thinking
01:22:54
really hard and someone's like, "Hey,
01:22:55
David, David, David." And I can't hear
01:22:57
them because you have these headphones.
01:23:00
>> Well, some sometimes you cuz you have
01:23:04
headphones. partner is like, "No,
01:23:07
>> I can't hear you cuz I have headphones
01:23:08
on."
01:23:09
>> Yeah,
01:23:09
>> I feel like that's close enough. I think
01:23:10
that's fair.
01:23:12
>> He's got metaphorical headphones on.
01:23:14
>> Yeah, brain headphones.
01:23:14
>> Where's your competitive spirit?
01:23:15
>> For the sake of the game,
01:23:17
>> I'll give it to him.
01:23:18
>> Yeah,
01:23:18
>> that's nice. That's nice.
01:23:19
>> That was the most roundabout way of
01:23:21
saying that, though.
01:23:21
>> Now it's 6 to 7.
01:23:23
>> Ah, you better get this right after
01:23:26
after selling our team out like that.
01:23:29
>> I think if you're at work here
01:23:32
>> Mhm. I think the door is closed.
01:23:35
>> Boom, baby. Let's go.
01:23:37
>> That's like the most obvious.
01:23:39
>> That seems like that seemed like an
01:23:40
Ellis question.
01:23:41
>> Yeah.
01:23:41
>> Give me some little reverb right now.
01:23:43
>> LET'S GO.
01:23:48
>> NICE. I actually thought that that was a
01:23:50
long time.
01:23:50
>> Like Ellis's answer was obviously if
01:23:53
he's like in audio room, door closed,
01:23:55
whatever. I thought the obvious other
01:23:57
answer was you're wearing headphones. So
01:23:58
I was like this will be an easy point.
01:24:00
>> Yeah. But I you both got it.
01:24:03
I wear headphones all the time.
01:24:06
>> Like I wear headphones like 80% of my
01:24:08
waking life.
01:24:09
>> Wait, was that was that Marquez's
01:24:10
confidence answer?
01:24:11
>> That was
01:24:12
>> Oh my god.
01:24:13
>> Yeah. So now it's 8 to
01:24:14
>> He got it right. He got it right though.
01:24:15
>> It's okay. We're still winning.
01:24:16
>> Yeah, you're winning by two.
01:24:17
>> By two.
01:24:18
>> All right.
01:24:19
>> All right.
01:24:19
>> All right.
01:24:20
>> The score is 8 to six.
01:24:21
>> How many more questions do you guys
01:24:22
want?
01:24:23
>> Enough for us to win.
01:24:24
>> So three.
01:24:25
>> Three more questions.
01:24:26
>> Three more questions.
01:24:28
>> All right. Three more questions.
01:24:29
>> If you miss one, it's game over.
01:24:31
>> Yeah. Correct.
01:24:32
>> Can't miss. It's a game winning three.
01:24:34
>> Yeah, we got to get the perfect score.
01:24:35
Lock the
01:24:36
>> gamewinning trip.
01:24:37
>> Lock in. Gamewinning trip.
01:24:39
>> Mike Bibby.
01:24:40
>> Mike Bby.
01:24:40
>> As they say in the league. Bibby style.
01:24:43
>> Bibby style.
01:24:44
>> Bibby style. All right. Baby bubblehead.
01:24:46
>> Do you think Mike Bibby listens to this
01:24:47
podcast?
01:24:47
>> God, I hope so cuz
01:24:49
>> he used to be one of my favorite
01:24:50
players.
01:24:51
>> Yeah, he's lit.
01:24:52
>> Yeah,
01:24:52
>> just like Slavakovich or whatever his
01:24:54
name.
01:24:54
>> Stoyakovich.
01:24:56
>> Nice. Nice. Look at you, David. I'm so
01:24:58
proud of you.
01:24:58
>> Hey, man. I was I was living ball.
01:25:02
>> I live near Sacramento.
01:25:03
>> Near.
01:25:04
>> All right.
01:25:04
>> Yeah. I don't know.
01:25:05
>> What is the screen time on your
01:25:07
partner's phone right now?
01:25:09
>> Uh
01:25:10
>> screen for the day.
01:25:11
>> Delta. Close to going over.
01:25:12
>> We'll do Delta with this one.
01:25:14
>> Which phone?
01:25:16
>> What would you consider as your primary
01:25:18
phone?
01:25:18
>> The OnePlus 15.
01:25:19
>> I have one. I have one.
01:25:20
>> One more question. Is it listed as a
01:25:22
decimal? Like
01:25:24
>> point blank hours?
01:25:25
>> Hours and 15. Hours and minutes. hours
01:25:27
and
01:25:28
>> hours and 15.
01:25:31
>> It listed an hour and 15 minute
01:25:34
increments.
01:25:34
>> In my head, I was just picturing like 8
01:25:36
hours and 15 minutes, so I said 15.
01:25:39
>> Clearly time today.
01:25:41
>> Screen time today.
01:25:42
>> Oh, thus far today.
01:25:43
>> Like thus far today. Yeah.
01:25:45
>> Did he?
01:25:46
>> Mind you, what time is it? Is it
01:25:48
>> uh
01:25:48
>> It is now 12:53 in the
01:25:50
>> 3 p.m. Okay.
01:25:51
>> All right. I'm going to guess
01:25:53
1 hour 15 minutes. 1 hour and 15
01:25:56
minutes, Marquez.
01:25:57
>> I think you're under.
01:25:59
>> 13 minutes off.
01:26:00
>> Oh, no.
01:26:01
>> Marquez put 1 hour and 28 minutes. So,
01:26:04
you're 13 minutes off.
01:26:05
>> Very close.
01:26:06
>> That's about as close as I think you're
01:26:07
going to be.
01:26:08
>> Can Mariah
01:26:09
>> and Ellis beat this?
01:26:10
>> I'm going to try to live my day in the
01:26:12
world of Mariah.
01:26:14
>> It take a while, right? I think
01:26:16
>> it's like 12:54. Mariah's like 12 hours
01:26:18
54.
01:26:19
>> Yeah. I think Mariah wakes up
01:26:22
unbelievably early due to the horrors.
01:26:25
>> I think Mariah is confronted by the
01:26:27
horrors.
01:26:27
>> It's a fair guess.
01:26:28
>> The screams.
01:26:29
>> Yeah. Almost immediately. And resolves
01:26:31
this by going on her phone. I think this
01:26:35
begins at approximately
01:26:38
10:00 a.m.
01:26:39
>> That's when work starts.
01:26:40
>> Mariah, I think thus far today
01:26:46
mean it's like 25.
01:26:48
Does does driving apps count as screen
01:26:50
on time? Yeah,
01:26:51
>> it does.
01:26:51
>> It does.
01:26:52
>> It takes into account.
01:26:53
>> CarPlay, however, does not.
01:26:54
>> I think you've used your phone for
01:26:57
two hours. Oh man, I'm already wrong. 2
01:27:01
hours and 27 minutes.
01:27:04
>> Okay,
01:27:06
so I have to preface this with I have
01:27:09
switched to the S24 Ultra. It does fun
01:27:12
things. Fun things that punish you. And
01:27:14
that means that when you plug in your
01:27:17
phone, you can have it show little
01:27:18
picture slideshows. How cute. When you
01:27:21
plug it in overnight, it counts that as
01:27:23
screen time. Um, so
01:27:26
>> really
01:27:28
does. And so I'll wake up and it'll say
01:27:30
10 hours of screen time. I'm like,
01:27:31
that's crazy. I've been unconscious. Um,
01:27:33
and so today it decided that I have had
01:27:36
5 hours in 9 minutes of screen time.
01:27:40
>> Wow.
01:27:40
>> Which means it didn't even show pictures
01:27:42
all night long. So, what's the point?
01:27:45
>> I think we should You should be a
01:27:46
professional phone reviewer, Moran.
01:27:48
You're actually finding the the crazy
01:27:50
>> This was a huge problem.
01:27:52
>> Well, that point goes to Marquez and
01:27:55
Dave.
01:27:56
>> Sorry. We were doomed from this.
01:27:59
>> We only need two more points and we need
01:28:00
two more points.
01:28:00
>> We just need to miss a one question. It
01:28:03
>> is not enough.
01:28:04
>> It is not enough that we need to make
01:28:05
one. We need them to tie.
01:28:07
>> I know.
01:28:08
>> In which case,
01:28:09
>> there's
01:28:10
>> We got a shot.
01:28:10
>> Oh my god. It's game seven.
01:28:12
>> Oh, I've been here before. Game seven.
01:28:15
>> All right.
01:28:15
>> Yeah. It said on uh Sunday I had 11 and
01:28:18
a half hours of screen time.
01:28:19
>> Damn.
01:28:19
>> And half of that's from the Google
01:28:20
Photos.
01:28:21
>> 11 and a half hours.
01:28:22
>> Wow, that's a lot.
01:28:23
>> That's wild. Okay, next question
01:28:26
for the tie or to pull away.
01:28:30
How many unread emails are in your
01:28:32
partner's main inbox right now?
01:28:34
>> Marquez's.
01:28:35
>> Yep.
01:28:36
>> Oh, no. It's yours.
01:28:38
>> It's mine.
01:28:38
>> You're talking about like personal
01:28:39
email.
01:28:39
>> We just answered.
01:28:40
or work email.
01:28:42
>> How many emails are your inbox? I
01:28:44
>> my main email.
01:28:44
>> Main.
01:28:45
>> Yeah, exactly.
01:28:46
>> Unread emails
01:28:47
>> cuz I know David has like the all inbox
01:28:49
features with a thousand. Yeah, you're
01:28:51
supposed to look. Yeah,
01:28:51
>> bye. You mean my like my professional
01:28:53
one, right?
01:28:54
>> It just says main. It doesn't tell. Main
01:28:57
isn't professional. Not like my high
01:28:59
school I use for spam, right?
01:29:01
>> On desktop. I think you can see the full
01:29:03
number.
01:29:03
>> I'm just going to go by the number
01:29:05
that's on my iOS icon. Red.
01:29:08
>> Okay. Yeah. Wait, should I do that, too?
01:29:10
>> Sure.
01:29:10
>> But that's also got my spam email in it.
01:29:12
>> Okay, fine. Screw it. Let's do that.
01:29:14
>> Should we do it?
01:29:14
>> Yeah, why not?
01:29:14
>> Just do Just do the number on your home
01:29:16
screen.
01:29:16
>> Let's do it all.
01:29:16
>> All right. It's really important.
01:29:18
>> Is this clo Is this
01:29:21
>> We'll do delta with this one. We'll do
01:29:22
delta. No, wait. That's going to be
01:29:24
crazy. Okay. Closest without going over.
01:29:25
I don't want to do math.
01:29:26
>> Yeah.
01:29:26
>> Closest without going over.
01:29:27
>> Okay. Closest without going over. I
01:29:30
>> feel like you have commas in your
01:29:31
number.
01:29:35
>> Okay.
01:29:35
>> Oh man.
01:29:39
We're the worst.
01:29:40
>> We are the worst.
01:29:42
>> Holy
01:29:42
>> To be fair, I I really try to to make
01:29:45
this better every week and it never gets
01:29:47
better.
01:29:48
>> It doesn't matter. It compounds.
01:29:50
>> It does. It's okay.
01:29:52
>> Go first.
01:29:54
>> I These numbers are terrible.
01:29:57
>> They're going to be atrocious.
01:29:59
>> Is this like your oldest email you've
01:30:01
>> This is like the Gmail icon on your home
01:30:04
screen. So, it accounts for all of your
01:30:05
emails. Oh, it like compounds all of
01:30:07
this,
01:30:07
>> I think. So, yeah.
01:30:09
>> Um,
01:30:11
>> this number is in the thousands.
01:30:13
>> This is thousands of emails.
01:30:14
>> I can't speak. I'm not going to make any
01:30:16
faces. I just want you to dig deep into
01:30:17
your heart and give me the perfect
01:30:19
number. Mariah,
01:30:20
>> I think
01:30:23
this has to be
01:30:24
>> But don't go over.
01:30:26
>> Yeah.
01:30:26
>> At least
01:30:29
I'm going to say a round number. 10,000.
01:30:31
>> Okay. 10,000. Mariah,
01:30:34
goed answer. Oh crap. What's the answer?
01:30:37
>> The answer is 10,097.
01:30:39
>> That's so
01:30:40
>> How many emails like accounts do you
01:30:41
have?
01:30:42
>> I think I have four.
01:30:43
>> This is closest with going over but not
01:30:45
delta, right?
01:30:45
>> Yeah.
01:30:46
>> I have to get within 97 of your number
01:30:48
without going over
01:30:48
>> or the game is over.
01:30:50
>> No pressure, Marquez.
01:30:51
>> This is you're we're asking you to make
01:30:53
a double coverage logo three. It's dame
01:30:54
time.
01:30:55
>> And David's without question a
01:30:58
ridiculous number.
01:31:00
>> But how ridiculous?
01:31:01
>> It's more than that if I had to guess.
01:31:03
>> I do think so. They did sit next to each
01:31:05
other for a long time.
01:31:06
>> For sure. A comma in there.
01:31:08
>> David asked about
01:31:09
>> Oh, true.
01:31:10
>> the icon and the spam email and all
01:31:12
kinds of other stuff.
01:31:14
>> So, I'm going with like a almost an
01:31:16
Olivia like number here.
01:31:19
>> I think you have like Let's go with
01:31:22
34,6.
01:31:26
>> Can it go that high?
01:31:28
>> We're about to find out.
01:31:28
>> No, I have 11,
01:31:32
>> 927.
01:31:33
That means
01:31:35
>> Marion Ellis win the game.
01:31:38
>> All right.
01:31:41
>> Oh my god.
01:31:42
>> Well played. Wow. That was good.
01:31:43
>> That's an incredible snipe, 10,000
01:31:45
emails. That was really good. That was
01:31:46
crazy.
01:31:47
>> It feels appropriate.
01:31:49
>> You know how they say if you have 10,000
01:31:50
hours in something, you're a master.
01:31:52
>> Ellis is a master.
01:31:53
>> How many unread emails do you think I
01:31:54
have right now?
01:31:55
>> Um, I don't know. Like one.
01:31:57
>> Yeah, I was I was excited to guess for
01:31:59
you cuz it's probably one or two.
01:32:01
>> It's zero. During it'll be how many I
01:32:03
got during the
01:32:05
>> clearing it during the podcast.
01:32:06
>> 18 as we've sat here.
01:32:08
>> If I got to guess from Marquez, it would
01:32:09
have been incredible.
01:32:11
>> We would have gotten a point.
01:32:12
>> Four, five, six.
01:32:13
>> But yeah, there's really no no knowing
01:32:15
how many emotions
01:32:20
together, bro.
01:32:21
>> Just sitting here. Yeah,
01:32:22
>> that's crazy.
01:32:23
>> Not bad.
01:32:24
>> All right. Well,
01:32:25
>> we're going to take it to ad break while
01:32:27
Mariah and I high five a few times and
01:32:30
then um we'll be back.
01:32:32
>> Well, we got to do trivia questions,
01:32:33
right?
01:32:33
>> Oh my god, I forgot.
01:32:34
>> Oh, yeah.
01:32:35
>> Do we do them from here?
01:32:36
>> Uh yeah, because I have my question
01:32:37
memorized cuz I'm a freaking He's a Bast
01:32:40
with a trivia question.
01:32:46
>> I love that.
01:32:47
>> That might be my favorite one.
01:32:48
>> That's so good,
01:32:49
>> guys.
01:32:50
>> Yeah,
01:32:52
guys. Yep.
01:32:54
>> We're all excited for the Pixelbook Glow
01:32:56
because it has lights on the outside.
01:32:58
>> That's right.
01:32:58
>> But I don't know if you remember back in
01:33:00
the day, MacBook also had some lights on
01:33:02
the outside.
01:33:03
>> Talked about it last week.
01:33:04
>> Real dorks will remember.
01:33:06
>> Mhm.
01:33:08
>> The light on the outside of the MacBook
01:33:10
that glowing logo was not actually a
01:33:12
dedicated component. What component
01:33:15
already present in the laptop was used
01:33:17
to illuminate the logo?
01:33:19
>> No, that's a good trick question.
01:33:20
>> Thank you. Cool. Um, Grock, context,
01:33:24
please.
01:33:25
>> Oh, Mariah, you will be answering for
01:33:27
Andrew. Yes. This week.
01:33:28
>> I'm so sorry, Andrew.
01:33:30
>> What's it called in the Hunger Games
01:33:32
when they're like
01:33:33
>> tribute?
01:33:34
>> Is that what No, maybe I'm thinking of
01:33:35
someone else. When When you have to go
01:33:37
You're champion. You are Andrew's
01:33:38
champion. How did I get the Hunger Games
01:33:40
and Dune next?
01:33:41
>> Same vibe.
01:33:42
>> Hit the boo button.
01:33:44
>> Nice.
01:33:45
>> Well, the answers will be at the end
01:33:46
like usual. We'll be right back.
01:33:57
Welcome back. Um, there's a post on our
01:34:00
subreddit that I want to address.
01:34:01
>> No, David,
01:34:03
>> it says Okay, there's a post that says,
01:34:06
>> uh, which people do you think hate each
01:34:08
other on waveform? We all love each
01:34:10
other, guys.
01:34:11
>> Yeah, it's not like that.
01:34:12
>> Like I like the post said that Ellis and
01:34:15
I hate each other, which is crazy. Yeah,
01:34:18
>> cuz I would we would kiss in the Vision
01:34:20
Pro if we could. We only have one.
01:34:22
>> Literally, every Wednesday, Dave and I
01:34:24
get Chinese food for breakfast together
01:34:26
and drive to work. It's It's not like
01:34:27
that.
01:34:28
>> Shut up.
01:34:29
>> So, I just wanted to say that everyone
01:34:31
here loves each other deeply. It's good.
01:34:33
It's very good.
01:34:34
>> Oh my god.
01:34:35
>> Exactly. Adam loves that new button.
01:34:37
>> So good.
01:34:38
>> You got to chill with that button.
01:34:40
>> Yeah. So, yeah, there wasn't a lot of
01:34:43
news this week.
01:34:43
>> Yes. But people did tag me in something
01:34:47
that I had no idea what was going on.
01:34:48
And I was like, "What are you talking
01:34:50
about?" And then I figured that I would
01:34:52
ask David here on the pod because I have
01:34:54
him here in the pod.
01:34:55
>> Okay.
01:34:55
>> To talk about your picture going viral.
01:34:57
>> So I saw your tweet.
01:34:58
>> Okay.
01:34:58
>> Well, okay. I saw it on Twitter and
01:35:00
threads.
01:35:00
>> Yeah.
01:35:01
>> I first saw it quote tweeted on Twitter.
01:35:04
So someone else tweeted it on my
01:35:06
timeline and then I saw that I'd clicked
01:35:08
in and it had like
01:35:10
>> 10,000 retweets or something.
01:35:12
>> Yeah. And then I saw I opened up Threads
01:35:14
and I saw it on Threads too from you
01:35:16
this time and it had I think 8,000 likes
01:35:18
on Threads.
01:35:19
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's a certified banger.
01:35:21
What is the post?
01:35:22
>> Okay. And what happened? Um
01:35:24
>> and where were you?
01:35:25
>> I just want to ask, do you guys know
01:35:26
what a visual metaphor is?
01:35:28
>> No.
01:35:28
>> Yes.
01:35:29
>> No. Not on the internet. Those don't
01:35:30
exist.
01:35:30
>> Can you describe a visual metaphor,
01:35:32
Marquez? Well, a simile is when you
01:35:34
compare things using the word like. And
01:35:36
a metaphor is when you compare things
01:35:37
without using the word like. Wow. Wow.
01:35:39
So instead of saying this car is like a
01:35:42
boat, I would say this car is a boat.
01:35:45
>> Anyway, a visual metaphor is comparing
01:35:47
things visually without using any
01:35:51
>> this is kind of like this language.
01:35:53
>> Yeah.
01:35:54
>> Okay.
01:35:54
>> Is that what your post was?
01:35:55
>> Okay. So, I just want to give you some
01:35:57
Yes. Okay. So,
01:35:58
>> sick.
01:35:58
>> Uh, last Saturday I walked 29,000 steps
01:36:03
cuz it was a really nice day.
01:36:04
>> Weird flex, but okay. Some
01:36:06
>> got to let you know.
01:36:06
>> I respect it.
01:36:07
>> I'm still in pain. So
01:36:10
anyway, I got to my destination, but I
01:36:12
overshot it by a little bit. There was a
01:36:14
little park there, so I sat in the park,
01:36:15
and it's classic New York beautiful like
01:36:18
late afternoon sun setting park. Uh, in
01:36:22
New York there are these chess tables
01:36:24
where there are tables that have like
01:36:26
the chessboard like embedded in the
01:36:28
stone table, you know, iconic New York
01:36:32
>> situation, right?
01:36:33
And I was sitting there and I saw this
01:36:35
guy sitting one of his chess tables with
01:36:38
his laptop like in his lap playing chess
01:36:41
on like a chess
01:36:42
>> chess.com
01:36:43
>> website. Yeah. chess.com
01:36:45
>> like on the chess table with no one
01:36:47
across from him. And I was just like
01:36:50
visual metaphor,
01:36:52
>> right?
01:36:52
>> This is the photographers's eye you've
01:36:54
trained for years. So, I used my iPhone
01:36:57
Air at 6x zoom
01:37:00
>> from very far away,
01:37:01
>> which looked really bad. Uh, but it's
01:37:04
what I had on me and I took a photo. I
01:37:06
made sure to like
01:37:07
>> David, you know what they say about the
01:37:08
camera you have on you.
01:37:09
>> It's the worst. It's the worst. Uh, you
01:37:13
know, I made sure to crop out any
01:37:15
identifating features about him. I only
01:37:17
had like his hands with the laptop so
01:37:18
you could see the screen that was the
01:37:20
chess app or the chess website with the
01:37:22
chessboard. And I made sure to shoot it
01:37:24
from high enough down so you could see
01:37:25
the the chessboard the on the table.
01:37:29
Anyway, I was just like I just put it on
01:37:31
social media. I said 2026.
01:37:33
>> Yeah.
01:37:34
>> Because it represents
01:37:37
the fact that we are no longer playing
01:37:40
things in front of each other, doing
01:37:41
connection in front of each other. Now
01:37:43
everything you do is online and you're
01:37:45
connecting with strangers that you don't
01:37:47
really know. Right.
01:37:47
>> Metaphors hit a lot harder when you
01:37:49
explain them.
01:37:50
>> I mean, apparently I have to. This is
01:37:52
what Okay, this is what
01:37:54
>> what's the beef?
01:37:55
>> Most of their quote tweets and the
01:37:56
replies and everything were just like,
01:37:59
well, who is he supposed to play with?
01:38:01
There was no one on the other side. I
01:38:03
was like, yes, that is the entire point.
01:38:07
>> Yeah,
01:38:08
>> that's what makes it a good
01:38:09
>> And there were people that were like,
01:38:10
don't judge, don't judge strangers. And
01:38:13
I was like, I'm not judging him.
01:38:15
>> They're judging them.
01:38:16
>> It's a v it's a visual metaphor for our
01:38:18
society.
01:38:19
>> Your caption was 2026. all the it's a
01:38:22
vis it's clearly saying like this
01:38:23
picture represents this year.
01:38:25
>> Yeah.
01:38:26
>> Yeah. I do see how this could be threads
01:38:28
rage bait. I'm not going to lie.
01:38:31
>> Talk about it.
01:38:32
>> Rage bait. Talk about it.
01:38:34
>> Some threads that are just kind of like
01:38:36
look at this thing.
01:38:37
>> Yeah, but I didn't say look at this guy.
01:38:39
What a loser playing chess by himself.
01:38:41
>> You know what I mean? Like it's it's
01:38:43
something generic enough it hits a
01:38:44
mainstream audience and then there's no
01:38:46
nothing to guide the interpretation. So,
01:38:48
it's just open to what anyone thinks.
01:38:51
>> I love the picture.
01:38:52
>> The problem with all algorithmic social
01:38:54
media
01:38:55
>> You disagree.
01:38:57
>> Sorry. No, I want you to take I want to
01:38:58
take
01:38:59
>> No, I disagree with Mariah.
01:39:01
>> I think I think
01:39:04
>> Man, I don't want to insult people.
01:39:05
>> Yeah. Look at these comments. It's
01:39:07
almost as as if he needs another person
01:39:09
to play chess because they're they're
01:39:11
taking a literal interpretation of it
01:39:13
>> and they're not understanding the visual
01:39:15
metaphor. I think this screams that, you
01:39:17
know, we talk about like media literacy
01:39:19
being in crisis. Like
01:39:21
>> to me, this is like a slam dunk of of
01:39:23
media literacy. Like like it it could it
01:39:26
could it's like the if we lost the
01:39:28
ability to process like symbolism.
01:39:30
>> Yeah.
01:39:32
>> Yeah.
01:39:32
>> What
01:39:32
>> like social media just flattens
01:39:34
everything to
01:39:35
>> which to Mariah's point is the
01:39:36
mainstream like once it hits that
01:39:38
mainstream audience you lose all of
01:39:40
that.
01:39:40
>> You lose nuance.
01:39:41
>> Yeah. Yeah.
01:39:42
>> And you get like Karen from Ohio like I
01:39:44
think
01:39:44
>> Yeah. the other person.
01:39:46
>> But that's that's a problem.
01:39:48
>> Yeah.
01:39:48
>> Yeah.
01:39:49
>> That's like it's like a big problem.
01:39:50
>> Yeah.
01:39:51
>> Yeah. I'm not
01:39:52
>> That's why it was such a beautiful post
01:39:54
>> and thank you for people tagging me
01:39:55
telling me to talk about it.
01:39:56
>> Yeah. It seems like it started a
01:39:58
conversation, good or bad. So, I think
01:40:00
that's probably the most interesting
01:40:02
part.
01:40:02
>> Well, yeah, it hit the Twitter number
01:40:04
one, what's happening today thing.
01:40:06
Someone sent me a screenshot of that.
01:40:08
You know what's super funny too is the
01:40:09
amount of people that like acquaintances
01:40:11
that I have that sent me like meme
01:40:13
compilation pages that just stole the
01:40:16
post and like removed my name.
01:40:18
>> So I was going to say that's how I first
01:40:20
saw the picture was someone just posted
01:40:22
your picture
01:40:23
>> and like had a caption like this is
01:40:25
what's wrong with and I was like okay
01:40:26
scroll right by whatever and then I saw
01:40:28
yours and I was like wait a second.
01:40:29
>> Yeah
01:40:30
>> this is David's picture.
01:40:31
>> Yeah. So
01:40:32
>> he tweeted this six years ago.
01:40:33
>> Now I know what it feels Yeah. Exactly.
01:40:35
Now, I know what it feels like to uh
01:40:36
have someone just rip your content and
01:40:38
make put it on meme pages and stuff,
01:40:41
>> but I've had a ton of people send me
01:40:42
like various meme pages that just it's
01:40:45
like whatever.
01:40:46
>> has no experience with that.
01:40:47
>> Not at all.
01:40:48
>> I was going to say, "Welcome to the life
01:40:49
cycle of a viral social media post. It
01:40:52
it will be stripped of its context and
01:40:55
redigested by every other commentator
01:40:57
and their own angle."
01:40:59
>> Yeah.
01:40:59
>> And there's nothing you can do about it.
01:41:01
Yeah.
01:41:01
>> The thing about social media that I that
01:41:03
I think sometimes are interesting. Okay.
01:41:04
I had a conversation. This is an off off
01:41:07
camera offkilter random conversation I
01:41:09
had with uh a YouTube engineer about
01:41:12
features that they could add or not add
01:41:14
to YouTube.
01:41:15
>> Okay.
01:41:15
>> And they told me, you know, in in a few
01:41:18
words that they tend to be pretty
01:41:19
minimal with the features that they add
01:41:22
or don't add. And algorithmically they
01:41:23
they could make big changes, but they
01:41:25
tend not to. And they let people's
01:41:28
algorithms reflect them. like they could
01:41:31
choose to push certain things or or even
01:41:36
uh remove certain things from the
01:41:37
algorithm because it would be better for
01:41:39
society in their own judgment. But the
01:41:41
second you make a judgment and influence
01:41:42
it then slippery slope you you have to
01:41:45
judge a whole bunch of other things.
01:41:46
>> There's also all the section 230
01:41:47
problems that come along with that. So
01:41:49
his his basic stance was like YouTube is
01:41:51
like a it's so dense with media and so
01:41:54
many people and so much stuff that it's
01:41:55
kind of just like a mirror of society
01:41:58
and uh all the good and all the bad.
01:42:00
>> And when a post goes viral, it's like
01:42:04
unnaturally exposing your art to the
01:42:08
whole world. Usually it doesn't work
01:42:09
that way. Usually you expose it to the
01:42:11
audience it's designed for and that's
01:42:12
it. But on social media, you can
01:42:14
sometimes expose it to the entire world,
01:42:16
which comes with all of the interesting
01:42:19
positive interpretations and then all of
01:42:21
the random people who were never meant
01:42:22
to see this who have all sorts of
01:42:24
nonsensical things to say about it.
01:42:27
>> And yeah, that happens all the time.
01:42:29
>> Yeah,
01:42:30
>> it's kind of a bummer when
01:42:31
>> there's even like when it's stripped of
01:42:33
there's even there's things like
01:42:34
cultural context, right? Like when when
01:42:37
you're shown to the entire world on a
01:42:39
platform,
01:42:40
>> all of the context is just like you're
01:42:42
going to be shown to people who just do
01:42:44
not understand what you're trying to say
01:42:45
or like
01:42:46
>> the target demographic is no longer the
01:42:48
only audience of that thing.
01:42:50
>> So I don't know. I don't even care
01:42:52
about, you know, the meme pages stealing
01:42:53
it and stuff. I just found it funny that
01:42:55
like multiple of people that I know sent
01:42:57
it to me. But it's more I was more
01:42:59
frustrated by like 80% of the replies
01:43:02
and quote tweets just like a lot of them
01:43:04
I think they did understand the visual
01:43:06
metaphor but they were rage baiting by
01:43:09
quote tweeting and being like what a
01:43:11
dumbass.
01:43:12
>> Mhm.
01:43:13
>> I just
01:43:14
>> that's also how people get
01:43:16
>> likes themselves and hop onto the
01:43:20
>> There was a guy that quote tweeted me
01:43:21
and he was very nice. He said, "This
01:43:22
photo deserves a Pulitzer."
01:43:24
>> Oo.
01:43:24
>> And his his quote tweet got like almost
01:43:27
as many likes as the post. And then I
01:43:30
saw him post later like, "Wow, my posted
01:43:32
numbers." I was like, "You didn't make a
01:43:33
post. You just quote tweeted my post."
01:43:36
Like, "What the?
01:43:39
>> Yeah.
01:43:39
>> What is social media anymore?" It's like
01:43:41
it's just like big competition.
01:43:43
>> It's hard cuz it it makes me like kind
01:43:45
of not want to engage and interact on
01:43:48
platforms. I I've been thinking about
01:43:50
this so much for the last couple of
01:43:52
years. Like I'm less and less inclined
01:43:55
to say anything on social media anymore
01:43:57
because it feels like the incentive
01:44:00
structures are all leaning towards
01:44:02
people having opposing opinions to you.
01:44:05
>> Most inflammatory possible response will
01:44:07
be rewarded the most.
01:44:10
>> Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And so like
01:44:12
having any opinion or posting anything,
01:44:15
people are just going to come for you.
01:44:16
And it's like, why am I even putting
01:44:18
this out into the world if I'm just
01:44:19
inviting people to scream at me?
01:44:21
>> I'm going to clip that, put it on
01:44:22
TikTok.
01:44:23
>> Good.
01:44:24
>> Then I'm going to repost it after you do
01:44:25
that.
01:44:26
>> We live in the clip economy now, baby.
01:44:28
>> Yeah.
01:44:28
>> So anyway,
01:44:29
>> David, thank you for uh explaining that
01:44:31
to me because I had no idea what they
01:44:33
were talking about till they tagged me
01:44:34
in it.
01:44:35
>> Thank you for your service.
01:44:36
>> Thank you for your service to the world.
01:44:37
>> You're welcome.
01:44:38
>> It deserves a pulitzer. All right, on to
01:44:41
trivia.
01:44:45
>> This is my new trivia starting gesture.
01:44:48
>> That's also the
01:44:49
>> the timeout gesture making a
01:44:51
>> technical foul. This is trivia.
01:44:53
>> I was going to say like I just feels
01:44:55
like you're giving me a tech.
01:44:57
>> Alice,
01:44:58
>> trivia time.
01:44:59
>> If you can call it a tech, you should be
01:45:00
able to call it a trip. Just saying.
01:45:01
>> Got him. That's
01:45:03
>> Yeah,
01:45:03
>> I like it. I'm on board with this trip
01:45:05
whole situ this whole trip situation.
01:45:06
All right, question number one.
01:45:08
Chromebook Pixel came out in 2013.
01:45:11
>> This is Mariah's first time hearing this
01:45:13
question, so you have to answer for
01:45:14
Andrew.
01:45:15
>> Okay.
01:45:15
>> What was the size of the screen closest?
01:45:18
Without going over
01:45:21
>> of which device?
01:45:22
>> The Chromebook Pixel that came out in
01:45:23
2013. It was a laptop.
01:45:25
>> Pixel.
01:45:26
>> A Chromebook.
01:45:27
>> I wasn't born yet.
01:45:28
>> Yeah.
01:45:31
Ellis only came on live in 2014.
01:45:35
That wasn't the one with the light bars,
01:45:37
was it?
01:45:37
>> It was.
01:45:38
>> Oh, shoot. I didn't have that one.
01:45:41
>> I had the one that folded in half that
01:45:43
like folded over itself.
01:45:45
>> The Pixel book.
01:45:46
>> I had the Pixel book.
01:45:48
>> No. Yeah, the Chromebook Pixel 48.
01:45:50
>> Yep.
01:45:51
>> The CR48.
01:45:53
>> That was OG.
01:45:53
>> One of them. I don't know.
01:45:54
>> Oh, but he's talking the first premium
01:45:56
one. Yes.
01:45:57
>> Okay.
01:45:58
>> That was matte black unbranded with a
01:46:00
light bar. It was sick. Is that a light
01:46:02
bar?
01:46:02
>> Or maybe not a light bar. I think the
01:46:04
primo and a delay bar.
01:46:05
>> Yeah.
01:46:05
>> Yeah.
01:46:06
>> All right. Flip them and read. What do
01:46:07
we got?
01:46:10
>> We have a resolution.
01:46:11
>> All over the praise.
01:46:12
>> All right. Who wants to go first?
01:46:14
>> Uh, I wrote 12 in.
01:46:16
>> Okay. I said 14.
01:46:18
>> Okay.
01:46:18
>> I was thinking Chromebook size, so I
01:46:20
said like 10.
01:46:21
>> All right. The winner.
01:46:23
>> Wait, what about Ellis?
01:46:24
>> No, Ellis is
01:46:26
>> What about Ellis?
01:46:26
>> Oh, right. Right. Trivia master.
01:46:30
I was just thinking about you, you know,
01:46:32
>> as always,
01:46:32
>> because I because I love you.
01:46:33
>> I love you, too.
01:46:35
>> Okay, I'm I'm teeing you up with a
01:46:37
>> I thought it was that can't happen when
01:46:40
it's supposed to.
01:46:43
>> It's funnier out of context.
01:46:45
>> I have a I'm afraid that it's between 12
01:46:47
and 14.
01:46:49
>> Wait, so what size is it?
01:46:51
>> It is.
01:46:51
>> Come on, baby.
01:46:53
>> 14.2.
01:46:54
>> 12.2.
01:46:56
>> 12.85.
01:46:57
>> No.
01:46:57
>> Oh, let's go. David gets the point.
01:47:01
>> Damn.
01:47:01
>> I forgot laptops used to be smaller.
01:47:03
>> Yeah, little babies. All right.
01:47:05
>> Counted for inflation there. Notebooks.
01:47:08
>> Theis E e PC.
01:47:11
>> I had one of those.
01:47:12
>> I had one of those. What?
01:47:20
>> Wow.
01:47:21
>> So good.
01:47:21
>> I can't believe, you know, I put that
01:47:23
button in there. I was like, I don't
01:47:24
think we're going to use that that much.
01:47:25
>> So good.
01:47:27
>> All right.
01:47:28
Guys,
01:47:32
>> what made the logo on the back of the
01:47:35
old MacBook Pros glow?
01:47:40
>> Close this without going over.
01:47:42
>> The CPU.
01:47:43
>> Mhm. The CPU.
01:47:45
>> Technically, it powered it.
01:47:47
>> Who's to say really what does anything
01:47:49
in the computer?
01:47:55
>> God.
01:47:56
Um, Andrew, come back.
01:47:59
>> It's all computer. Everything's
01:48:01
computer. Name a part of a computer.
01:48:02
>> Everything's computer. It's beautiful.
01:48:06
>> All right. I also don't know the answer
01:48:08
to this, so I'm going to wait. Yeah, I'm
01:48:09
going to wait on
01:48:10
>> This is one of those perfectly
01:48:11
structured trivia questions where I
01:48:14
don't know the answer, but because of
01:48:16
the way it's formatted, I learned the
01:48:19
answer, and I'm pretty sure I'm right.
01:48:21
>> Cool.
01:48:21
>> All right. I Cool. I I thought this
01:48:23
would be more of a layup. This is hard.
01:48:26
>> I have a guess. I just don't know.
01:48:27
>> Yeah, let's see it.
01:48:29
>> David, you put
01:48:30
>> I wrote the LCD.
01:48:31
>> Uh Marquez, you put
01:48:32
>> the LCD backlight,
01:48:34
>> right? You put
01:48:34
>> I put display, but I meant also LCD
01:48:37
>> or God.
01:48:38
>> I don't I need a concept here.
01:48:40
>> Display or god. I think LCD back.
01:48:41
>> The way So the way the way an LCD screen
01:48:44
works for those who don't know is you
01:48:47
have these these I believe they're um
01:48:50
>> emitting diodes.
01:48:52
>> No, LCDs. So you have these you have
01:48:54
these like liquid crystal I think
01:48:55
they're based on like quartz these
01:48:56
structures and they they can twist right
01:48:59
when you run current through them they
01:49:00
have the ability to twist and when they
01:49:01
twist certain ways they can block light
01:49:03
when they twist other ways they they
01:49:04
don't block light
01:49:05
>> liquid crystal.
01:49:06
>> So what you do is you put a big light
01:49:07
behind that called a backlight
01:49:09
>> and then that each crystal will twist
01:49:11
and untwist and that's what uh you know
01:49:13
blocks the light and creates different
01:49:15
pixel color brightnesses whatever. Mhm.
01:49:18
>> Um, so the way that the glowing logo in
01:49:20
those old metal MacBook Pros, if you're
01:49:22
ancient and remember, um, what they do
01:49:25
is they just cut out the aluminum so
01:49:27
that the backlight
01:49:29
>> shown through. So, do should we give
01:49:32
everyone the point or just Marquette?
01:49:33
Cuz Marquez was the only one that put
01:49:35
backlight. But I feel like I'm the only
01:49:37
backlight. I mean, I meant
01:49:38
>> in jeopardy they would have said, "Can
01:49:40
you be more specific?"
01:49:41
>> I would have waited for you backlight.
01:49:43
>> Well, if they asked me to be more spe I
01:49:44
would have said backlight.
01:49:45
>> I hope you would have said back. Okay.
01:49:46
Well, next time I'm going to say, can
01:49:48
you be more specific, but I think we
01:49:49
should award three points.
01:49:53
>> So, they all get the point.
01:49:54
>> Thank you, God.
01:49:55
>> And
01:49:55
>> thank you.
01:49:57
>> Good luck, Andrew.
01:49:58
>> Good luck out there.
01:49:59
>> I'm sorry.
01:50:00
>> I can't believe this.
01:50:03
>> I feel like I'm the only one who should
01:50:05
be getting a
01:50:07
>> normally I am that strict, but I don't
01:50:09
know. I'm feeling kind of good today.
01:50:10
Maybe I'm I'm trying to put
01:50:12
>> But I said that it was a good question
01:50:14
because as you as you said the logo is
01:50:16
not its own component. I said, "Oh, I
01:50:19
had no idea." And they said, "Which part
01:50:21
of the PC illuminated it?" So I had to
01:50:23
deduce that the only reasonable answer
01:50:25
is they used the backside of the
01:50:27
backlight.
01:50:28
>> Exactly. It was one of those really
01:50:29
clever Apple decisions where they
01:50:30
discovered if we just cut the aluminum
01:50:32
like this, you could it'll glow because
01:50:34
of the backlight until you're using it
01:50:36
outdoors in a really bright area and
01:50:38
then there's a part of your screen with
01:50:40
lower contrast in the shape of the Apple
01:50:41
logo.
01:50:42
>> Damn.
01:50:42
>> In the center. Um,
01:50:45
>> cool.
01:50:46
>> Damn. Sweet. Okay.
01:50:47
>> All right.
01:50:48
>> Well, comment section, let me know if uh
01:50:51
if you disagree with that ruling
01:50:53
>> and let me know if liquid crystals are
01:50:55
not actually based on quartz. And can
01:50:57
somebody tell me what happens inside of
01:50:59
a computer?
01:51:02
>> And that's our next episode. Thanks for
01:51:04
watching. Thank you for listening and
01:51:06
for tuning in this week. And of course,
01:51:07
uh, when all the news happens on
01:51:08
Thursday, we'll be here next week to
01:51:10
talk about it as well. Catch you guys
01:51:11
later. Peace. Goodbye.
01:51:13
>> Peace. Six and seven.
01:51:15
>> We produced by Adam Malia and Ellis
01:51:17
Reven. And this week, Mariah Z. We are
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part of the Vox Media Podcast Network
01:51:21
and our intro outro music is produced by
01:51:23
Vain Sill. It's the waveform, bro.
01:51:29
>> Whose voice is that?
01:51:30
>> It's yours.
01:51:31
>> I was like, that sounded like me. Did I
01:51:33
say that?
01:51:34
>> It's you.
01:51:35
>> I don't remember saying that.
01:51:35
>> I don't remember why you said that.
01:51:38
>> Cannot find a contest either.
01:51:39
>> We got to use that as like an intro
01:51:41
jingle or like an outro jingle for every
01:51:43
episode.
01:51:44
>> So good.
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Chrome ran on 4 gigs of RAM back in the
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day.
