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[Music] all right welcome back people of the internet to another episode of the
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waveform podcast we're your hosts i'm marquez i'm andrew i'm david yeah we got a we got three people in the house today
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because we're talking google announcements google i o google hardware but first right off the top i do want to
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give a shout out to uh well first of all the way david is wearing his headphones right now if you're watching the youtube version of this podcast and you can see
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that david is wearing a google hat but he also had to take his headphones off to put the hat on and he wrapped around
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his neck facing down and i just want to say that every pair of headphones should be able to do that i feel like when i post
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a video review of the sony headphones that are coming out this week and it's out by the time you see it uh people
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will be mad that i overreacted about this but it is a huge deal yeah um so i'm just gonna give a shout out now to
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go ahead and watch the sony wh-1000xm5 review those headphones are out and they are really good really
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comfortable sound fantastic and i'm very annoyed that they no longer fold yeah yeah so i just want to give a shout
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out to that off the top also quick little correction from last week we did talk a little bit about the ram trucks
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and it was one of our trivia questions and we did refer to it as the dodge ram a few times a lot of times a youtube
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commenter graciously pointed out that that's actually no longer the way the companies are organized fiat
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owns dodge and dodge used to own ram but now fiat directly owns ram at the same level
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it's basically they're just ram trucks now ram trucks is the easiest way of putting it really it's very confusing there are people in the comments calling
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at the dodge ram so we're not the only ones but would like to make that correct just putting that out there so you guys don't go around saying dodge ram so ram
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trucks anyway let's talk google i o there was a two-hour keynote today on the day of recording you're you're
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wearing google yeah i don't know how long this google hat's happening but it's well for a bit you know but also
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i've got chrome dinosaur socks oh my god for people that
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can see that you really came no you stretched before this episode oh yeah i'm very flexible and then also
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these socks that say i'm feeling lucky very nice very nice did you get that is
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that google swag oh disclosure since dieter can't do this anymore i'll
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just replace him i guess uh my sister and her husband work at google so they sent me these as a
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christmas gift so you've got the google swag yep very cool all right all right well we'll we'll talk through all the
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the announcements this event was uh how do i describe this event long it was
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it was a long event it was almost two hours long it was two hours the first one hour and 32 minutes of it was google
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flexing about how much data they have and all the cool stuff they can do with it
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and the last 30 minutes was them pre-announcing a bunch of products that aren't ready yet
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that's that's what that's what happened at google's event what do you want to talk about first i kind of like it yeah in the hour and a
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half there's a lot of things but they're mostly software and ai things um i kind of just wrote down all the ones i
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thought were the most exciting i thought we'll just like quickly go through it and then clearly we're all hardware people so we'll do
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that left also first live google event in three years oh in person yeah it was interesting it
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was in the amphitheater it was in front of a live audience some people were able to attend which is cool
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uh in three years wow time does fly but that's right 2020 didn't happen 2021
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virtual uh i do know apple's upcoming wwdc will again be virtual with very limited
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in-person attendance we'll see what that looks like but you're right the amphitheater was was kind of packed today i thought this was going to be
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limited too and then i saw a lot of people there it's probably less than normal yeah it's probably less than normal but when you put them all in the
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theater for the main keynote it probably looks like a lot that's true so that's true yeah all right okay so you want me
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to just go down this list yeah things um some more interesting than the other but i'll just say them all out loud and we
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can have a conversation about them um 24 new languages added to google translate i love that
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at first i was like that number's not too crazy but i realized i didn't know a single language listed so i wondered how
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many they have this now brings the total to 133 different languages google has
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created so much data yeah okay they also like step one didn't they briefly talk about how the way they're
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helping with translation is like if there's not direct translations between some languages they use a
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different language as like an in between a bridge yeah to like kind of make things together i thought that was really sort of makes sense because most
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languages are sort of based in roots yeah and so you can sort of branch out from there like english is germanic so
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that's why a lot of english sounds like german words yeah so that's a i mean that's a lot of smarts but also a lot of
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data crazy that's a lot of data yeah and computing i'm just going to keep repeating this sentence every new project is that just how you're going to
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yeah answer all of that immersive view with google maps oh so they're saying they're mapping the
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entire planet pretty much in like insane and safe i'm ready for it it was like uh that's a lot
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of data there's a lot of data we need to like trying to save before you get to there we knew the staples i'm feeling
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lucky button but instead that's a lot of data the easy button right oh yeah yeah the oh i'm feeling lucky that was the
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easiest thing that was easy yes the easy button um yeah that was sweet that was like sim city like civilization looked
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crazy um and then they also had it was that a reaction to apple making like
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ultra high realistic stuff they have like the only thing
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so apple did in a couple of their very specific cities they went in and they did these super high quality maps where
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i don't know if you've ever like accelerated down the street in google maps but when you hit the arrow it's just a blur yeah and then it sharpens
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into the next image and in these apple maps you could actually sort of drive down the street which was kind of cool
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yeah and you actually look around and so google is improving the quality of a lot of their maps in a lot of
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places and one of the things they did was let you go inside of these places this was crazy and it would stitch
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together you remember photospheres right yeah so you go into a place you can look around a photosphere with your phone and then
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move to a different part of the bar and look around that part in new photosphere yeah it would stitch them together in a way that looks like a drone shot yeah
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flying through the bar it was so cool that's a lot and it didn't look weird like a photo sphere like one of the
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first photos i have in my google photos is a photo sphere in san francisco from like way back when they launched it and
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it looks so bad because you had to be like take a photo move take a photo move yeah but this like the interiors that
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the google maps did just looks amazing it looks like a rendered 3d space and like the the way they showed it in video
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literally looked like an fpv drone came in and like did that typical like swoop around before it hits a wall and look
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back it looked yeah i'm wondering like how many cities they're going to do this in how many restaurants they're going to
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do this in like do they have to do every single one individually or are they able to like
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take photos that people have already uploaded for reviews on google maps so i mean
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this is just the keynote and they they went over it at high level i'm not sure how much information we're going to get but i do imagine this is limited yes i
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don't think you're going to be able to do this by the way i love this feature as the as the uh
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socially anxious person i am i want to be able to map out exactly where i'm going to go somewhere and so when i get
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the drone shot that shows me exactly where i get to go that's just beautiful what is my walking around
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couldn't see it potentially pulling images though because they did show something later about uh
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being able to use google lens for food and find nearby places like that so it was basically taking a picture of a a
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platter of food using the points that it would find in that and then using uh like google maps reviews and the
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photos inside of those to try and find another food plotter that looked like yeah to show you local stuff
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they're pulling from that obviously it probably does image recognition based on people's reviews of the rest of the
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photos what food that restaurant offers that's really cool that's so much really that's
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a lot of data okay just to go off that it's a google lens
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and they also added something called scene exploration so yeah rather than taking one photo you can stitch together
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almost a panoramic view of photos the example they showed was with a shelf full of chocolate
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panned over the entire shelf of chocolate and then it was individually picking bars of chocolate that were
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meeting your needs of like nut free dark chocolate and then rating so amazing in
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places like that where there's just like thousands of options and it takes you forever to go through them if you could just know we were talking about like uh
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like wine or something like that if you knew you liked some sort of red wine with like a fruity note or something
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like that it could show you other ones potentially sometimes i think that could be really cool sometimes i don't know why pairs of crocs if you want to make
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sure that they are similar right at the cracks you lost me no
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sometimes i'll go to a wine store before a party and a friend of mine will be like can you grab this specific wine and it's like i'm gonna be 30 minutes
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because there are hundreds of bottles of wine like i don't know how to find that yeah so they can literally google it
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yeah in a store in real space sick that's awesome that's a lot of data we
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got we got a little we got a little ai automated tldr in google docs so if someone so you're in a
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collaborative document you get a really long doc going with a whole bunch of sections and a bunch of contributors they'll make a tldr for you based on
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what ai thinks are the most important things that's pretty cool i like that a lot that's really good i got a big fear because i think there's
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a lot of people that work in google docs that have big collaborative documents like that that want the spark notes of the data yeah yeah so that was cool to
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see sparkness was ahead of their time yup google so we talked about so nest hub max is i have one in my house it's a
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smart speaker with a screen on it with a camera on it and with a bunch of sensors
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facing into the room uh anytime i want it to do anything i still have to bark at it out loud say
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the hey g command like any other smart speaker they added a new one or actually
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a pair of new ways to activate it that don't involve that exact thing first you can look at it make eye contact it will
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know that you've made eye contact with it and then it'll start listening for whatever command kind of cool not as natural because i'm usually
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halfway across the room but maybe i don't want to say the command so i just look at it and say what time is it even though the time is on the screen already
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the demo they showed like she had to kind of lean in and stare at it yeah like uh you could just tap it maybe you
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had to like mean mug it like yeah you had to did you gave it across the room that would be nice it would be funny but
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yeah i notice every morning when i walk past it and i i walk like four feet from it i look over at it and it says hey
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marquez and it gives me my things for the day so i like within five feet of it it's kind of cool to be able to look over and
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be able to talk to it but i like the second one better which is a bunch of no trigger commands that you can just say
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out loud and the mics will pick you up and just do it so instead of saying hey g set a timer
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or hey g what's the weather you can be in the room and just say what's the weather in argentina and
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it'll tell you i should probably be more specific and give it like a city but it'll tell you without you having to say the command
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the list of commands is setting a timer asking for the time which is hilarious because it says the time all the time
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anyway turn some lights on or off in your smart home cancel a timer or set a new timer
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or alarm dim or brighten your lights and ask for the weather so some of the most basic
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common stuff yeah one yeah thing i'm not quite sure about here um
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at first when they said this we were all thinking this is for any google home uh like mini regular home nest i thought i
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think it's only nest home max i think that because there was a slide previously um that said
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quick phrase the the slide that said quick phrases before they showed it says nest home max on
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and i'm very confused about that i would like this to be on everything i would kind of the way they described it sounded like it was on everything they
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said we're expanding our quick phrases and i know right now you can say stop when a timer is ending so that is a
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quick phrase and that would be nice i i like like having being able to ask for the time i thought
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the phrase is amazing yeah uh so they all they all have far field mics so they
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can all hear you theoretically so the only reason i could see it being just nest hub max is if it's doing some sort
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of authentication first to know it's you but it also should know that from your voice so
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i'm not sure what's the problem with the stranger asking for the weather you know these are specific quick
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phrases it's not like you're able to do anything you want with them i also don't get why it would be something different
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than the like look to activate because if look to activate confirm and it works on you and then you
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can ask anything what's the difference between then now these phrases that's only available on
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nest hub maps does it just like the vicinity's a little bigger on it that'd be worth clarifying maybe it has more
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built-in memory yeah i would like to clarify that at some point if that's available on all of them i don't care
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about looking activate on anything because these are the things i want to turn my lights off and i want to set an alarm all the time i want to walk into a
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room and be like what's the weather and not even not even blind and it's just yeah yeah yeah yeah
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i i would love to use the time thing when i'm in the shower trying to get ready to leave i ask my um google nest
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wi-fi every morning what the weather's going to be which asking my router what the weather is is already funny but just
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being able to say just being able to wake up open my eyes and be like what's the weather that would be great yeah that'd be really nice
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so we got a little bit about lambda two lambda two uh so here's a little a little bit of a
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scoop we're working on a video right now about a different ai project from a different
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company and we've been thinking about this video for a long time in this project and just how powerful and
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impressive these general ai systems can be at connecting natural language with like associated language or images or
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whatever it is lambda is right up this alley is limited and we can sign up for a preview but i'm
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just gonna say i google if you're watching this i would love to try lambda2 if we could get access to it and
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like try it and and do like some video yeah that'd be sick but basically the
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demo they did on stage that i loved was yeah you you basically just type in
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what would it be like on mars like what would be what would it be like to live on mars and it just dreams up a
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paragraph of sentences based on information from the internet about what it would be like to live on
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mars and you can type in whatever you want what would it be like to live inside a scoop of ice cream i don't know what
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would it be like to get swallowed by a whale and it just answers you this is definitely an extension of last year's
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lambda which was giving sentience to inanimate objects right like asking
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pluto asking the moon like what are you like what's your life been like you know
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and so this is sort of an extension of that where now you're going further and you're telling stories and
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you're creating things that don't exist out of nothing which is sort of the crazy part of ai that
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we're starting to get into now over the last couple of years is like ai creating its own stuff that's not even
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really based on anything in particular but it's also weirdly based on that it's really based on everything it's stacked
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like it's learning things based on models and based on databases but then it is creating new things by itself yeah
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and that's sort of what this is doing too things that make sense because of it's based in reality yeah yeah yeah
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yeah it's it's fascinating the funny thing we saw though was uh every time it would tell a story it would it'd always say i think this i think it would be
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like this and i don't know if that's just like a legality thing they don't want lambda to lie to people
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or something i think that's what it is like what would it be like if i jumped off this building i think yeah google's
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not gonna tell you to do something yeah no i i think there's a yeah it's the same way so we're talking about um
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open ai dolly making images out of text you have to disclose anytime you share
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any of the images that it generates that it is made by an ai yeah you have to yeah just in case it looks too close to
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reality or if it resembles something someone might think is real yeah and i think the the i think statement is kind
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of part of google's way of doing that with this closing yeah ethical ai has been like a major major point of
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interest in the last few years even though google like got into a bunch of controversy for firing their head of
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ethical ai like three years ago two years ago i don't know there was this major controversy thing um yeah
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but overall the entire industry has definitely been thinking about that more that might have been a spark honestly as it gets better you have to be more uh
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up on on top of the whole disclosure thing yeah as you'll see from the golly video we eventually make you have to disclose
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coming up it's crazy they also uh were very specific at the end of a few because it's you know still early
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in lambda if you were using it they had a couple disclaimers of one of them being results may be offensive so um
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i'm very interested at what might that's also like people different people considered different things offensively very little
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kind of a catch-all and i'm sure it doesn't you know know how to tell all of that from what it's pulling from the
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internet yeah i think it's probably a lot of accidental like association too yeah i think they just use the word
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offensive as a blanket word for like anything you don't want like your kid to read from an ai so totally yeah they're
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being safe about it but same thing with dolly these are actually every year though at google i o the ai demos are
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probably one of my favorite things that they show off because it's just that's like holy crap the
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technology is getting insane kind of thing the future this is sort of my favorite thing this is also one of those weird things that i could only see
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google doing like we've kept saying they have so much data so like it's pretty clear that they are they are able to do
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this because of all the data they have but it's like okay i compare this to an apple keynote and there are certain things that apple can do that you're
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like yeah only apple could pull this off and as we're watching i think they had a
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whole section on safety and as i'm watching that i'm like if you
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have to have someone come up on stage just to promise to the world that this
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is going to be okay we're doing it safely and responsibly then you know you have a lot of data you know you have a
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lot going on i don't remember if you i don't know if you remember this but a few years ago when they first demoed the
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google assistant being able to call restaurants and like not tell the restaurants it was an ai and make
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appointments for you and be like hey i'm calling to make an appointment for this person yeah uh 7 30 and it would
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make that it would use like human animations and stuff um they gotten so much heat over that
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because they didn't disclose right because they didn't disclose it was a robot they changed the whole thing to be like hi i'm a google assistant calling
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for this person i am a robot made by google and then they the restaurants just hang up on you that's the thing so
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that they did a lot of testing yeah where like in order to be most effective you literally have to trick someone into
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thinking it is a human yep which is very irresponsible right but it just works way better that way so if you work for
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google you're like well okay if i anytime i get a call and i screen someone with like google's what is it
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called screen calling yeah screen calling yeah it's it immediately goes screen yeah call screening it's like the
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person you're trying to reach is using a call screening service by google yeah 75 of people hang up immediately when they
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hear that so when you're should be honest i want most people to hang up when they probably yeah but some people you know they make it through the
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screening and it's like someone i needed to talk to but if you're if you're running a restaurant and you get a call at someone and then you pick up the
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phone and you're waiting for someone to what do you order pizza you're like on the phone already you're rushing and so it's just someone like this is a robot
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calling you you're just gonna you're gonna hang out like immediately that's the problem it's such a push and pull yeah it would work better but also the
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the like implications are not good yeah so how do they yeah how they move forward with it it's like they have to
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keep getting better at impersonating humans but also immediately tell everyone they're not a human yeah it's
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weird it's sort of the same thing with like deep fakes right it's like we want to get better and better at creating
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photo realistic things but then the amount of irresponsible things you can do with a deep fake is
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outrageous it's off the charts yeah like there have already been defects on twitter that have sparked a ton of controversy that it was later found out
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they were not real did you see the new kendrick lamar video with deep fakes in it it's really really good
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yeah it is deep fakes it's just him and different people over his face while he's
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it's insanely well done there's some like there's a couple little moments where you can tell it's like not quite
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real you can see the like slip up of maybe like his mouth looking a little different but it's insanely good i
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highly recommend it it's very good i i find myself like i'm just remembering we also talked about a kendrick lamar music
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video a few years ago where he had the robot shots gone the cinematography in
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kendrick lamar music videos is pushing the technological limits i want to just give kendrick lamar a shout
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out for that deep fakes robot shots like clone shots all all that type of stuff
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shout out to kendrick good stuff shout out good luck i know he needs a shout out from the white house
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young up and coming artists can might make it big someday um yeah no we got a lot of stuff we we
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apparently google wallet is coming back oh boy it might have messages built in again who even knows there's a bunch of
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little stuff but i think i think we want to talk hardware after the break can i just say something about wallet real quick yeah okay so google wallet existed
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long time ago it was meant to replace your wallet completely it was awesome they gave you a google wallet physical
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card it was like a debit card it had your google play balance on it and you could use it like real money and it was
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great and i had one and then like a year into the program they're like your cards are not gonna work anymore we're getting
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rid of google wallet it's gonna be google pay now became google pay then
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they didn't update anything in google pay for forever everything broke they made it again they called it google pay
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again but then they partnered with some bank and then that blew up so they got rid of that and then it was still google
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pay and now it's still google pay that has a messaging service built in because you can message people through google pay
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now they're scrapping google pay and it's google wallet just keep google wallet google wallet is a great name
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it's a great idea the whole idea is that you're supposed to be able to leave your wallet at home and use your phone as
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your wallet just keep it it's fine like and i want the debit card back that's all i have to say
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someone's not salty it was a good no it was a good product not at all they should just i'm peppered the logo is
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great for it out of all a lot of the google logos lately have been rough great loads is pretty much the old logo but it's
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slightly newer like that's it i feel like they're the number one thing with a google product when you get involved
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early is like i hope this lasts i hope this doesn't get killed in a year shout
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out to alo shout out to google plus anyway there's a lot of [ __ ] that's we should get a break
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trivia then we'll go to break and talk google hardware adam hit us first i want to say i'm also a sad
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google pay user google wallet user rest
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so we've been talking about google a lot but there was also another event that happened this week the ipod
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got discontinued it did when was the first ipod released i know
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this okay if you can get it down to the day i'll accept the year
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down to the day i'm gonna try to get you get extra points david's like i was there
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i was in the iphone event but i was too young like the ipod was what 2001 oh sorry well you don't have to well i
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might get oh yeah later this is later this week so we think about it anyway we'll come back
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no no okay that's a good question anyway okay yeah you guys have to get something different think about it we'll
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all right welcome back let's now talk google hardware so the first 90 minutes of google's
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presentation were data data data look how much data we have the last 30 minutes were
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by the way we can make really helpful devices that can collect that data and collect that data eventually um
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all of the devices that they announced today are on the horizon to varying capacities
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so we'll talk through each of them but i also just want to just address how far away these things are so we got pixel 6a
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yep we got pixel buds pro those two things are the up next but they're also
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not coming till like mid july 21st it's a pre-order july 21st is pre-order today
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in like august for reference as we listen is may 11th as we record this so that's
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two months away yeah all right fine but they're the next up then we have pixel 7 and 7 pro already
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being unveiled and announced their existence and a pixel watch
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all of which are coming in fall typically there's an october event so we can assume those things are six months
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away yeah then rick also mentioned that there is going
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to be and he even showed it so the design's locked i guess a 20 23 pixel
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tablet so sometime next year don't know early late it's fall of next year i don't know
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whatever but there's going to be a tablet so they're announcing all these things way in advance now this is another one of the things we talk about
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in sony land where we're like all right they announced the thing in like february and it comes out in october and
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you're like what happened between february and october where you couldn't keep the hype train going and everyone
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forgot about the phone my theory is that google knows that everything that they
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do leaks and so because they know everything leaks they figure they'll get out ahead
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of it early enough to just own it and just pre-announce the products before they get a chance to leave like what why
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else would they announce the pixel 7 pro now they would they just got done saying the pixel 6 was the best selling pixel ever
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it sold more than the pixel 4 and pixel 5 combined in the same amount of time it's crazy but also here's the pixel 7
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it's not coming to a fall what's crazy is that you would think the hype over time would help them because
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there's like an extra media cycle every couple weeks when someone comes up with a new leak the height the hype helps them to an
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extent but it kills the current thing doesn't it like if i if i see current device
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they're selling yeah like today i want to buy a pixel i was thinking about getting a new phone i was thinking about maybe getting a pixel and google just
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got on stage and said coming this fall pixel seven next generation tensor updated this that and the other
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well now i don't buy a pixel six i don't know i i think if you were expecting a
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seven to come out at the same time everything they said is what you would expect out of the new one maybe you get
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to see the designs a little different i don't think it would sacrifice sales on the six at all because if you are at this point right now you've probably
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made the decision of the six or made the decision you're waiting until the seven knowing it's gonna have an updated chip
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knowing you know it's gonna have some little updates i mean you got to see the design maybe if you hated the design for
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the six and you saw it's super similar i don't we're talking about that later but like i don't think it sounds here's a minor theory there's like a sales curve
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on every phone right you sell a ton at launch spike you maybe sell a few more one or two months in when you have some
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sort of sale or when you have a little bit more media attention eventually the sales just start to slump so now they
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release pixel 6a so and they re announced pixel 7 at the same time so it's like okay well now the
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phone's cheaper so if you can't afford the pixel 7 or 7 pro you get the 6a and then if you're gonna be buying the
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more expensive phone you'll probably wait for the pixel seven like maybe they just at this point were like we sold most of the pixel sixes that
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we're going to sell fair yeah you know they sold what they're gonna sell the only difference would be like oh
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actually not christmas because that will be a pixel seven yeah so yeah they're sold what they're gonna think you're right getting out of the leak yeah yeah
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yeah something like that so you wanna just go through them one by one reactions i have many thoughts on
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each of them actually so let's just start with the stuff that's next up okay uh pixel 6a is the easiest one because
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it is a smartphone we know smartphones are 449 pixel 6a
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from what i can tell and this is a good thing it's very similar to pixel 6 which was already a great value at 5.99
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the main differences are going to be the display and the cameras so the design the materials are very similar it's got
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the camera bar it's got the glass and everything recycled aluminum frame um but the display is now a 6.1 inch
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60 hertz oled so it's the smallest pixel at 6.1 inches and it's at 60 hertz which is
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it's a lower refresh rate there are a lot of 90 hertz refresh rates at this price point but battery though that's
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what we're working with it's 4 400 milliamp hour battery that means probably but much better battery life
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screen 60 hertz i'm thinking really good battery life yeah we got to test that and see it's 128 gigs of storage and six
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gigs of ram it has five jeep then the one other thing that's different is the cameras where so here's what they've told us is
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that these cameras are one of the cost savings from pixel 6. pixel 6 had all these new cameras the high resolution
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bigger sensors but when we look at the spec sheet it's actually the imx 636 from the pixel 4
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yeah that we already know was pretty good yeah so yes it is a cheaper camera but it is
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probably still quite a decent camera yeah um so it's a solid it's a 12 megapixel primary and a 12 megapixel
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ultra wide and we'll see how those turn out to be but that for 449
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old camera but you're still getting all the new stuff so like it's not exactly like you're just using a pixel 4 like
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yeah so they're also cutting wireless charging um right which is annoying to me because that's something that they
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always cut to make a cheaper model and it doesn't cost them a lot to add it but it's just one of those things where they can say the premium phone has wireless
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charging the cheaper one doesn't um as far as the cameras go i mean they added those new cameras in pixel 6
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but the processing was like the same as it was in every other pixel so they were using this great new 50 megapixel sensor
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that was binning down to 12.5 or whatever yep and but the images ended up looking the same unless you took raw
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photos and if you took raw photos they were great but like nobody's doing that right so yeah as far as that goes until
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they fix the processing this seems like a pretty good deal the thing i'm a little bit annoyed at is that pixel 4a
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and i believe 3a and 4a were both um 349. and that's a price that you're just like
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holy crap 349 pixel 4a at 349 i think was one of the best value phones ever
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then they had to add 5g though yeah so when they added when they did the 4a5g was around that pre was around 450 and
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then the 5a with 5g is also 550 so now i guess that's just the new price is five that's the new price it's a budget phone
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with 5g 449 450. yeah yeah yeah so yeah we're going to have to see obviously these are all pending testing the things
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but i figure my biggest dislike is going to be 60 hertz and no wireless charging
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yeah but i think on paper like having the tensor chip and enabling like literally the exact same software
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experience as the pixel 6 and 6 pro is going to be kind of a bargain yeah for that price so having a particular phone
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for people that want smaller device even though it's 6.1 it's still 6.1 inches smaller it is
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smaller yeah and that sage color looks really really good yeah big fan i i hope
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that tensor gets is a little um worked out at this point because it was still between tensor and android 12
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it was very a pretty buggy experience for a lot of users so i'm hoping that maybe at this point it's a little more stable um i just
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remember the pixel 5 was incredibly stable with a mid-range qualcomm chip
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yeah so i'm hoping that with tensor it get it's just been worked out at this point yeah they've had a couple months
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yeah um also downgrade six gigs of ram versus egg eggs and
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six six okay six gigs of ram 128 i think that's the only spec um yes i believe so there you go yeah
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i like the um the camera cutouts in it it's like this little little oval that's cut out in the in the camera bar i think
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it'll be identical it's slightly different yeah yeah we'll get more on that design when we get to pixel seven
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but the other thing that's coming out around this time also it just hit me that like maybe does this 6a launch with android 13 is
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that why it's delayed no because android 13 comes out in i think they only said that pixel 7 was
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launching it was kind of confusing because he kind of threw it in at the end like it's it's always the flagship that launches with the new os
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the final final android version is usually like august september okay and
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then october is when the first device comes we're going to launch at 12 okay yeah so the other thing launching in
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july is the pixel buds pro these are 199 noise canceling wireless earbuds
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from google so we already knew about uh pixel buds those are 179 when they launched um they're not really on
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google's store anymore and they only really seem to yeah they only really seem to show us pixel buds a series
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which is their 99 pair of uh less expensive earbuds so that's cool but we do have pixel buds pro now coming in at
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199. they have a multi-device connectivity they have transparency mode they have a six core
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audio chip in each bud and there's several microphones on each so that should help with noise cancellation
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there's some really cool features where they can sort of improve a semi-perfect seal with like extra
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sound waves that will help you cancel noise which is kind of cool the animation that they played so yeah
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that'd be cool to see how well it goes ipx4 sweat and water resistance and there's actually a touch
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control on the side of the bud like you'd expect so you get the google assistant or play pause your music and stuff like that they look pretty good
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same case mm-hmm swipe i like the case forward and backwards for volume up and down
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i thought that was weird yeah that's weird i don't like you you might be able to do the app though my guess is it has uh two openings on
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the top and bottom for i think the noise cancelling microphones and i think that's why you can't go up and down yet
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yeah bummer so yeah that minor detail but it just felt that is kind of a quirk yeah um the case will get you up to 31
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hours of battery but just the buds themselves will get seven hours of listening with noise cancellation or 11
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hours of listening without noise cancellation um that's pretty solid and then a five minute charge in the case can give you
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an hour of listening with noise cancellation so solid overall specs again most of these
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earbuds to me depend on like two major things how do they fit comfort
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wise do they fit in my ears or not and how do they sound yeah yeah that's kind of it some of the videos if it looked
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like they're sticking pretty far out of people's ears and that is my i've said it many times my biggest gripe
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with truly wireless earphones are horizontally coming out of here they these don't have a wing tip these don't
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have any extra like fitment to like fit in your ears they're like thicker though they're more like a bean yeah a little
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bit they kind of remind me of not the buds live but the even okay they're not as big as sony's wf-1000xm4
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those are the huge ones yeah but they are bigger than the beats they are bigger than airpods studio beats
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right studio beats beats studio buds studio buds yeah it's bigger than those yeah because we are all studio bets
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right exactly that's how you remember but you know how is that going to fit in my ear am i going to go for a jog and
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it's going to fall out that's my primary concern what i like earbuds for so yeah i am the funny i've been looking for
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earbuds that work for me for like every activity that i do for a while and funny enough like the oneplus buds pro ended
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up being the ones that work well for me because they don't go super deep in my ear to create this like weird seal so every
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time i hit the ground it creates this weird pressure bump and then there's two points of contact because like the stem
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sort of touches i like yourself i like this one i like the stem design a lot i like
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understand why apple went for this with the yeah with the pros now i'm a wing tip die hard
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the stem like what's so nice in your ears were those earbuds that came out oh this was like 2014 um and everyone was
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buying these jaybirds jaybirds x2 i still use my x4s x4s like those
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things everyone bought those they don't sound the best anymore they don't have any noise cancellation or anything but they're in your water resistant and they
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do not come out of my ears yeah and that's like if i'm biking if i'm doing anything where i need them to stay in yeah they're the ones i trust the most
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to stay in the studio buds have kind of like a wingy shape and they help a little bit but yeah i don't know
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different different everyone's got different years google said so yeah yeah they did they didn't show how they're gonna fix that
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really i i am interested they said that there's a i think a six core processor in it that has google designed
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algorithms or something um that's supposed to understand your ear shape and create a seal and whatever um i want
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to see what that amounts to i think we've seen a lot of presentations that have also always said like we've created
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our own algorithm that does this and then it does nothing yeah the benchmark is sony's wf-1000x
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i'm trying to see how much they cost just so i can get a those costs 279. yeah this is so 99. i'm not going to
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expect them to match the sony's and sound the pixel buds one sounded pretty good i know they weren't they weren't
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the sonys yeah they didn't have the anc the sony's are they they just sound so good sony's also aren't sweat resistant
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correct right there these big bulbous things that like hang out in your ears if you like they got smaller and they're
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still huge they're still huge yeah yeah yeah yeah so i'm gonna i'm gonna expect them to be somewhere between studio buds
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or samsung's like buds live or something yeah and sony's i can't keep saying this
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name w def xm for wf-1000x mark iv right just have adam
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record you saying it once and you can just superimpose it i really do like that and then the w1
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and then there's the one other thing they said that they um i think andrew mentioned this lightly but like they're
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using some sort of like alternate sound wave to create some like seal in your
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ear yeah that is weird i really am interested in trying that it reminds me of i mean not sound related but remember
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when they said they were going to improve zooming by using like the way your hands swayed and being able to
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sharpen images through that it's like i feel like they always have this weird way of like how the product interacts
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with the body and how that is going to that actually works really well though the camera thing it worked well but it
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was still a zoomed in photo but that wasn't for zoom right that was just for zoom you're talking about super zoom
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super yeah it was pixel three all right were you talking about super zoom yeah where you would zoom super far into that
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i thought you were talking about hdr okay because hdr works the same way where it under the gyroscope understands
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at all times and so it's able to align the frames a lot better because it knows exactly what orientation it's been in
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over time i guess yeah it's still similar thing they're using the way your body reacts to
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or it's reacting to your body yesterday the super zoom was terrible like that's apparently
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super resume yeah dolly could do that better oh dolly can do a lot of things i want to
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see real quick i know adam's somebody who used pixel buds a lot oh he still uses them are you excited about these at
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all absolutely not that's what i thought okay just wanted to get that on tape i
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like the case a lot it's fun to play with i would like if they added some sort of
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like soft touch finish to the case though because the current finish is just smooth and i don't know
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it would be nice if they if they made it a little more premium i would like that but then i would be worried this is what
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it's going to look like in your pocket of my pixel book yeah well speaking of soft touch finish
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pixel seven oh yeah yeah that's not that was pretty good transition it's actually a pretty good segue so down the line so
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we're gonna get two new products in the fall pixel seven and seven pro and a pixel watch the pixel seven what we do
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know is this thing is going to be a slightly updated design with kind of like what we saw with the pixel 6a it's
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got little well actually big camera kind of happens inside of the camera bar
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new colors and soft touch glass which i'm actually very excited it looks like
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pixel 3 style and that's the best texture they've ever really i really like that so that's pixel seven will
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have the next gen tensor chip it will i don't think they told us kind of anything else like we don't know
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about specs or ram camera bumps one piece of recycled aluminum which i actually think is really cool yeah it's
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not it's like still going to be glossy but it's glass right now but there's like a couple very specific like indents
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in the bump right now which i really it's like a free piece design right now that's
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so it's a visor now yeah and it's going to turn into like you know the the star trek like scott scotty i don't know he
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has a visor where it's like metal and glass on the front jordy i think jordy yeah but this is very much a visor yeah
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and we're going to see a bump a bar a bar it didn't look as tall either it looked like the bump may have been i mean this
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speculating from a couple renders but it looked maybe a bit thinner which would be they did look thinner yeah which is
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which is interesting and and to me it looked like all three cameras were the 50 meg camera because they were all big
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yeah 150 meg cameras the main sensor in the pro it was kind of hard to tell because like
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i'm assuming the cutout has to be there since it's one piece rather than having that extra piece of glass where you can't see the cutouts as much in that so
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is it giving it extra cutouts because it's just like the piece of aluminum i think that's oh well that that could
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be that's why the cutouts are so obvious that could be the case and they just have glass over the aluminum yeah that
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makes sense yeah but they did look bigger than the six they didn't look big yeah for sure i think that they are the
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bigger sensor that we saw in the main sensor of the six pro yeah so they didn't they didn't tell us anything
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about price refresh rates screen sizes or anything like that they're going to reveal
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way more down the line and we'll figure that out in the fall sometime whenever that event is yeah um but yeah they did
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pre-announce pixel 7 and seven pro i you guys are interested in the in the
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gray green looking color one i thought it was ugly i like the white the best
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yeah i i need to see another picture i want to see the satin black one there was like a there was like a lime green
00:43:54
that was even more lime than the current pixel six oh yeah it's like highlighter oh no i like the green it's interesting
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it's the highlight the gold gold i don't like the dark the weird gray one
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though do you remember the um the white one's cool the essential phone that had the green with the gold sides on it i
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think this is like a muted version of that yeah i mean nothing looks as good as the essentials yeah that's one of the best looking best yeah for sure um i
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think the only thing we can really take from this is confirming the difference between the six and the
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pro will be still two cameras versus three cameras so that's the one telephoto in the pixel six
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seven something you know says is that every year when apple makes a new phone it ends up either looking
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exactly the same or the same but the cameras are slightly different that's basically what they did here pixels have
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always been known for having an almost completely new design every year and then this is one of the first times
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where they actually like really changed it up yeah the i one of the things i praised the pixel
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about was it whether you think it's pretty or ugly it it looks it looks unique it looks very much like a pixel
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they all have the camera cut out in the corner this is the bar and they're like that's the pixel yeah at a glance yeah
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and they very much kept that about it yeah but changed it a little bit updated it improved it so i like it yeah i like
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it i mean the premium the bar definitely grew on me i don't know if you're watching the video version right now which you should be but this is this is
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the phone it's been carrying for like a month now is the six pro and it's the gray one and you can you can see the
00:45:26
slight difference in the bottom versus the top glass like no other phone looks like this yeah
00:45:31
so distinctive well like ken tell also is different it doesn't have that stupid matte finish on the top rail that the
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pro has yeah do you see on yours how it has that matte black on the top and the white has
00:45:42
the black the white matte on the top rail oh and it's different this just looks like a regular the materials
00:45:48
quality of the six pro is pretty bad and like the way that everything is stuck
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together just seems very cheap on the six and six pro so this looks like they really refined
00:46:00
it yeah one piece of metal that should be good it's generally the second generation of anything that is always a
00:46:06
lot better and this is sort of the second generation of the new version of the pixel yeah you want to do uh do you
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want to place bets on price i'm going to guess it's the same price so 599 799
00:46:18
yeah that would eight nine 599 for this they might make it 849. yeah you almost like want to guess it
00:46:24
because it's one piece like aluminum versus the like the glass multiple piece thing
00:46:30
right now you just think metal is more premium but i would agree with you same price same price the only
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thing is that a lot of people freaked out about the pro being so they could make it 50 cheaper but
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they'll probably keep it the same yeah i imagine they'll keep it the same and they'll be like all of this at the exact
00:46:49
same price isn't it great look how much more fun we gave you for the same money yeah ignore that it's been a year
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time i'm looking forward to next generation tennessee though that that should be cool too so after the break we're going to talk
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pixel watch and then of course we got a little pixel tablet sneak peek but since we are going to break that does mean we
00:47:08
have trivia our second trivia question let's try it so right now by the way i
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forgot to mention the score is marquez has five andrew has two david
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has none okay but obviously did you give marquez the start for the one that i almost you didn't get any last time so marquette you guys
00:47:27
were so close for the tesla one that was so close dang okay anyway all right also
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i should read it reiterate the rules david [Applause] discuss it at the end please okay okay
00:47:39
okay how old is sundar pachai oh hmm
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when i was at his house last weekend for dinner we'll be right back
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all right welcome back we also need to talk about the pixel watch the pixel watch is coming out also in
00:48:07
the fall alongside the pixel 7 and 7 pro um it was revealed by rick osterlow and i
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just want to give him a shout out because rick that was a good reveal bro that was good he came out there with the sleeves rolled all the way down and you
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started talking and we were like yeah when's he going to show us what is he going to show us the watch he's got to be wearing it we all agreed that he had
00:48:26
it on and he had a moment where he said something about a watch and he kind of like smirked like yeah you know exactly
00:48:32
what's going on and then showed us the watch so we got our first look at the pixel watch he was like genuinely like you don't see
00:48:38
it very often in these events people try and like be excited about things he just you could tell it was genuinely so
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excited and i like appreciate that really yeah biggest cheer of the night rick if
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you're out there cute smile biggest cheer of the night i appreciate it i think when he pulled the watch back and they said we're finally doing a pixel
00:48:54
watch that was the most animated moment of the keynote which is
00:49:00
interesting um so mixed feelings about it here in the studio i want to ask you guys what you think of the pixel watch i'll just
00:49:06
say i'll just preface it by saying it's a very simple design audio listeners it's just just picture a circle
00:49:14
all right that's it yeah that's that's basically it it's glass it's uh it's got one
00:49:19
button and one dial yeah they're calling it what are they calling it what they call digital.crown right something else
00:49:25
tactile crown uh instead of digital crown yes so that's the ending um it's
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gonna be running wear os it's gonna have a decently i don't want to say thick bezels but like noticeable bezels all
00:49:36
the way around the outside i mean we've used other smart watches at this point so we can compare but um what
00:49:42
do you think about this smartwatch design um well it looks pretty the z the z height
00:49:49
is very tall thickness it looks pretty thick how many c's probably three whoa yeah i was gonna
00:49:55
give two maybe two and a half two seasons i mean like when you compare it to the guy okay
00:50:02
andrew's like grimacing at this like like the galaxy watch for if you noticed on at the
00:50:08
keynote almost every single person that went on stage was wearing a galaxy watch four we were looking for like the whole time
00:50:15
yeah because samsung and google have that like weird relationship now where like they're sort of together as one
00:50:21
company but not really um but the galaxy watch 4 is fairly thin and then you see the pixel watch and
00:50:26
you're like oh that's that's got some c's on it and so then it's also like it's domed so it's
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got dome glass so it kind of goes over the top but then you see the bezel and
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you're just like the bezel almost looks as thick as the original moto 360 flat tire
00:50:43
oh i oh i see what you're saying yeah as the flat part yeah yeah so i was gonna say i didn't really get thick vibes i thought
00:50:49
it was like a pretty maybe because i'm wearing an apple watch and that's fine like it's a decent thickness yeah it's also kind of thick but i was definitely
00:50:55
struck by the bezels so i remember the moto 360 very well i thought that was a really interesting design yeah where
00:51:01
they said you know what it's kind of like that sharp aquas phone they're like we're gonna do thin bezels everywhere we can but we gotta put that stuff
00:51:06
somewhere so we put it at the bottom yeah uh this one was uh it was even bezels all the way around yeah but when
00:51:13
they showed the ui and they did some frames of swiping through the ui you could tell it's there's like squirkle ui and then there's like empty
00:51:20
space yeah that it keeps cutting off the corners of so like i don't know it's a lot it's a lot of
00:51:25
blank space yeah andrew and i talked about this last week or two weeks two weeks ago
00:51:30
but um this design has basically been the design that's been leaking for like four
00:51:36
or five years now like with this watch first leaked it was like with the pixel
00:51:41
3 or something like that and it looked exactly the same it looked kind of like a render yeah it still
00:51:46
still does like when it was three years ago i was like yeah well anyone could make up a watch that looks like that yeah it could be real or not so it's not
00:51:53
really doing the thing that the pixel 6 is doing where it's like we are going to look be a very different looking watch
00:52:00
that's going to call attention to itself this does not it is a circle i think and that's where like
00:52:05
i see a lot of people and in this office who don't like it i kind of think that's the reason why i don't mind it that much
00:52:11
because like it's a watch and a lot of watches look very similar i'm so killing offensive
00:52:17
yeah um it's like it's it is circular but it's like i would rather it look very plain than it'd be square like an
00:52:23
apple watch you know what they didn't show any interesting watch faces they didn't show very much they just showed like the
00:52:29
one simple analog watch face and so i think a lot of the customization of the
00:52:34
way watch looks comes from when you look at the face of it and we didn't really get much of that we just got like here's
00:52:41
what changing the temperature in a smart home would look like here's what uh ping with google pay would look like we
00:52:46
didn't really get like i mean it's not coming out till fall so i guess i shouldn't expect it to be done yeah but we didn't really get a look at
00:52:52
where os and any of that customization they said it was like a newer version of where os yeah i think is gonna be pixel
00:52:57
watch exclusive um so sort of like the google launchers exclusive pixel
00:53:03
launcher on pixels but yeah i don't know i don't i want to give it the benefit of the doubt until we get
00:53:09
it in person because it feels like they've been working on it for a long time and it could be great the one thing
00:53:15
that i think is going to be awesome for a lot of people is that they acquired fitbit for people who don't know they
00:53:20
acquired fitbit and so they're going to have a ton of fitbit integration what that means for google fit i don't know which is kind of
00:53:27
a bummer i'm very confused by that it's confusing right now they revamped google fit like a year ago yeah like google
00:53:32
fit's got a bunch of new features if you just have an android phone and you leave google fit on and tracking it'll give
00:53:38
you your steps it'll give you all kinds of stuff like google fit's a real product right now yeah but then they launched this watch and they're plugging
00:53:45
a bunch of the fitness stuff into fitbit and they're calling which is a separate suite with separate data and a
00:53:50
separate fitbit account yeah so it's not going to talk to google fit at all so
00:53:56
i think there's some sort of there is some sort of i think google fit does connect with fitbit already because of
00:54:02
the combination of it okay so i don't know what exactly you have to do but there's some sort of connection i think that i mean
00:54:08
it feel like it would make more sense for them to rebrand fitbit to google fit 100 percent i think fitbit's too much of
00:54:15
that brand it is such there are people who just call activity trackers fitbits like
00:54:20
that just rebrand fitbit but it will fit i think there are people who are saying i
00:54:26
want to fix it yeah it could be that in the fine print it said you need a
00:54:32
fitbit account yeah to track certain things i first say like when i remember a lot of bigger corporations will have
00:54:39
like little fitbit fitness competitions because it's cross-device it works with iphones and android phones they have
00:54:45
like little versions that go in your shoe so it just like counts your steps and you don't have to wear a watch i know that adam will really like that
00:54:51
because like wearing two watches sucks um but i mean for anyone that had a fitbit before and wants smartwatch
00:54:57
features but also wants to keep all of their fitbit stuff like that's cool for those people i guess
00:55:04
fitbit users that want a wear os watch yeah i guess yeah wear os watch because fitbit has gotten all the way to with
00:55:10
the like full watches and not just like their little you know yeah two and three were pretty good but they
00:55:16
were definitely very limited yeah i feel like this will be the those will be the activity first trackers like activity
00:55:23
tracker first and this will be the like smart watch first yeah and then which whichever side do you sort of feel like
00:55:28
they should just scrap google fit though and just make it called google fit bit yeah and then that will be embrace the
00:55:33
name google come on we do so much free like free work for you just like make it happen here's my question so we've seen
00:55:40
the design we don't really know many other details like i i'm hoping it's an oled like i don't know how long
00:55:46
the battery life is but there are things that we're gonna find out in fall how much do you think this will cost
00:55:53
andrew you first how much is the pixel watch i honestly have no clue um
00:55:59
3.99 3.99 okay it feels premium at 390. i was 3.29
00:56:05
that's my guess so my my point of reference is right now the apple watch series 7
00:56:10
starts at 3.99 for the smallest one for the smallest one but you can get an apple watch se
00:56:17
for 279 or an applause series three right now for 199. can they possibly
00:56:23
position themselves above all of the apple watches they can position it my thought is
00:56:29
they're going to position it between the se and the regular one so it's a good value compared to the expense of apple
00:56:35
watches but it's slightly more than the sc to sort of position it as we are not an se we are more premium so like 329
00:56:42
makes sense too okay three two twenty nine yeah i think you're right somewhere between 279 and 399 i could see it being
00:56:48
299 at launch and then dropping something like that i mean 3.99 at launch or 2.99 sorry 3.99 at lunch and
00:56:54
then dropping but yeah we'll see we'll see yeah it'll be interesting to see but that's you know
00:57:00
that's another fall thing the last thing that rick or uh yeah rick also unveiled is the pixel tablet
00:57:07
this we don't know anything about other than the one little graphic that we saw on stage so it's coming out in 2023
00:57:14
and it will have a tensor-based chip whatever generation is happening that year tensor2 at that point well it's or
00:57:21
one after that it could be like how they put the m1 in the ipad
00:57:27
the the epad air when they oh they haven't really seen them well then when they had the m1 pro and the m1 max they
00:57:32
just put the m1 and the ipad because it was like oh these are cheap now because we've been making them for a long time what if this doesn't come out until fall
00:57:39
of 2023 one time sheep if they fall oh
00:57:44
20 23 some time we don't know when so whatever they're pointing them they want to make it yeah the point is we don't
00:57:49
know we don't know what's happening but it is a tablet it looks like a pretty big i can explain it perfectly what it
00:57:54
looks like it is the google nest hub max ripped off of the speaker on the front
00:58:00
and it's what the nexus 6 on the back yeah we've never seen the screen before because the press materials they gave us
00:58:06
only had the back corner and then we saw the whole thing at the event and it literally looks like they ripped the
00:58:11
front above yeah right off the front there is only one reason why i don't like it because it's not bad now because it has
00:58:18
white bezels because it doesn't run fine white bezels if i am watching a movie
00:58:23
look apple could kind of sway me we talked about this before with the white bezels on the imac
00:58:29
because i always say yeah just put black bezels on a screen if i'm watching a movie and there's black bars i'm gonna see two times as many bars if there's
00:58:35
white bezels around this thing but they're like oh it's going to be in your kitchen and your living room and other rooms with white walls and they kind of
00:58:42
have a point because it does kind of fade away into the room with the white that's what you're using it for basically yeah but the internet is white
00:58:48
most of the time exactly but this is a tablet yeah so i'm using it up against
00:58:53
like a dark room background i'm i'm on a plane with it i'm watching movies streaming why would you have white bezels on a
00:59:00
tablet i've never seen that white bezels also generally indicate a cheaper device typically yeah and so
00:59:07
does this mean it's going to be a cheap table i mean it almost looked like a a redone nexus 7 to me 100 from the back
00:59:14
it looks like an x7 it has that soft touch which makes me think it's cheaper and one camera which the nexus 7 also
00:59:20
had okay in the same spot maybe it'll be an affordable because they went with the the last tablet they did was way too
00:59:27
expensive and it was laggy and it was all these things so maybe it'll be cheaper yeah so the
00:59:33
question is yeah you know it's an android cheaper tensor tablet that makes sense it's kind of like an ipad air the
00:59:38
way google described it to me was as a more premium larger tablet which is why
00:59:43
in the video i kind of positioned it like ipad air yeah somewhere in there uh ipad air to ipad pro somewhere in that
00:59:50
range right right because you have like a cheap hundred dollar ipad premium but you know a lot
00:59:56
of the question is what apps will work with it and will it actually be a good experience because we were talking about chromebooks and the other the other
01:00:02
tablets running chrome os before and so app google did kind of answer some of those questions we got a bunch of
01:00:07
optimized apps on stage i think it was 20 plus 20. but it's like the 20
01:00:13
like all google apps look they've got till fall 2023 or whenever it comes out but it was a bunch of google apps to your points so like gmail browser a
01:00:20
bunch of the ui stuff in android so they're thinking about it to be fair they've been working on um android 12l
01:00:27
for a while for large devices right i feel like that was sort of a an indicator that they were working on a
01:00:32
tablet ui this feels like where it will debut yeah so which would be great if they came back in and they're like okay
01:00:39
we actually care for the next few months yeah because who knows how long they're gonna
01:00:44
care for we'll see how long it would be great if it lasted a while yeah but the pixel tablet is
01:00:49
it's a curious thing i have no idea what they're gonna price it at i i really don't know anything else about it other than what they said on stage for those
01:00:55
30 seconds so rick if you want to tell us more feel free i'm listening always
01:01:00
my inbox is open as they usually are um but that is the pixel family we got a
01:01:05
whole bunch of google hardware in the last 30 minutes of the event so much of it will not be available for months and
01:01:11
for a very long time but i think they're they're successfully ahead of the leaks now but wait they've done it one more
01:01:17
thing they did do one more thing they did it the one more thing at the end of the event was fascinating it was a pair
01:01:24
of would you call them ar maybe not they're not even really ar glasses i don't know they're a pair of things a
01:01:30
pair of glasses and i'll i'll reference google glass in my explanation rick talked about ar a
01:01:37
ton right before he showed the glasses right but technically this did not overlay anything on top of the roof the
01:01:42
world did it just projected text in front of your eyes so it was overlaid to the real world
01:01:49
but that's all it was okay it's not tracked to the real world but it's between you and the real world okay fine so it looks like a regular pair of
01:01:55
glasses but the person wearing the glasses is getting a live transcription
01:02:00
of what someone is saying to them uh in text in front of their eyeball super cool we all know how fast google's live
01:02:07
transcription is especially through tensor their translate is excellent they're based so yeah yeah you can imagine this having a tensor chip inside
01:02:13
having a microphone on the side having really good battery life because there's not that much visually to show
01:02:19
um and i thought that was super interesting now again we don't have a date we don't have a price this is just
01:02:25
them demoing something they've been working on uh but there was a point where it appeared to be
01:02:30
translating sign language i'm not sure if i understood that part of the video correctly because that's what i was doing but it didn't look like there was
01:02:37
any camera on it yeah it might be hidden i don't know that was the most confusing they did just say it was a prototype so
01:02:43
like how much of it is actually like because like obviously we weren't seeing actual
01:02:49
footage through the lens um they had to just like superimpose that and edit that um so
01:02:55
what they ultimately were showing us was saying it was a prototype showing us what it did we didn't actually see i just think
01:03:01
it'll look like i agree i just think there's a huge difference between having a camera on your face and not having a
01:03:06
camera on your face yeah and so if google is going to be yeah putting together a pair like i think it would be really cool to have that live pair of
01:03:14
even for like disabilities or just like you know language barriers all kinds of people would find that really useful but
01:03:20
the visual element on top of it if it actually has a camera on it that unlocks a whole new world of things it could do
01:03:28
yeah so the fact that google focused on the text leads me to believe they're probably gonna focus on audio yeah and
01:03:34
it doesn't have a camera but i don't know it could have a camera and they're just trying to keep people away from
01:03:40
being like oh god privacy implications here we go again electric boogaloo you
01:03:45
know because that's exactly what happened with like the google glass one people were getting kicked out of movie
01:03:50
theaters because people thought they were recording people are getting ticketed on the freeway because they thought they were watching movies while
01:03:56
driving like everyone was just terrified of cameras and there was no indicator that it was
01:04:02
recording anything or taking photos and i think that was their biggest downfall with class one in 2012.
01:04:08
so it's been 10 years yeah the one that's their next run right so i think i got a little emotional
01:04:14
actually when i was watching this video there's not a lot of like tech videos that make me emotional but like seeing the people that like couldn't
01:04:19
communicate getting so excited that they were able to communicate it's like a really deep
01:04:25
deeply personal thing it's really cool and the reason it's personable is because it's in your eye and your peripheral is that
01:04:32
you can actually make eye contact during your conversation with someone who speaks a different language rather than
01:04:37
just having your phone translate open and looking down at your phone right reading it all and then like looking
01:04:43
back up and saying google glass first gen was close but do you remember what it looked like to talk to someone wearing google glass yeah they were like
01:04:49
we would be looking up in the corner like that like so you knew they were they're like looking but like they're
01:04:54
kind of like life translate thing has been in google's peripherals no well pun intended now for a very long time
01:05:00
because even the pixel buds won they announced live translation was like a key feature of the pixel buds one but
01:05:06
the problem was if one person was wearing pixel buds they had to like hold their phone up to the other person to
01:05:12
like show them what it was saying talking to talking to it and that was cool and they consider that live translation but over time their life
01:05:18
translation has just gotten better and better and better and tensor is specifically targeting that kind of thing yeah um and so i don't know if
01:05:25
they were able to get get that to a point where you just wear something and it you know that's why so that's why i think this is super smart
01:05:32
two-fold number one it doesn't fall yeah it doesn't fall but for two reasons number
01:05:37
one is everyone's we've been looking for like a killer app for ar glasses for
01:05:43
forever like we have all these unique things that they're capable of doing but every company is looking for the killer
01:05:50
app or the thing that it can do that connects with everyone and this is that universal thing we all could use some
01:05:56
type of transcription translation at some point and then on top of that it is
01:06:03
it's it's better than the previous version so it's one way i have the glasses on you don't need anything you
01:06:09
talk i understand you that's it there's no extra layer of like talking to my phone please you just talk
01:06:15
and i can understand both people kind of need the glasses though well if you can speak then i can understand and hopefully if i want to have a
01:06:21
conversation with you then i need to also get translated back to you in which case both people need the glasses but just the fact that you can have the
01:06:27
glasses on and your superpower is now activated is like yeah amazing the camera would help
01:06:32
though because imagine you're in like in tokyo and you know how google um translate now you can point it at
01:06:37
anything and it'll live update the text to that with glasses you're just
01:06:43
wandering a new country everything's in your language that's incredible that's my number one anxiety about international travel is like when i land
01:06:50
in france what are the signs gonna say oh i'm gonna be lost so fast that's like when people ask you like would you
01:06:56
rather be able to fly or know every language that's a hard question for a lot of people yeah because that is a
01:07:02
superpower yeah so so google's got all the data they've got a killer app and
01:07:07
they've they appear to have been working on a form factor that looks reasonable
01:07:12
and doesn't scare people so much you know they show the video they're i'm sure they're going to be monitoring comments sections of videos
01:07:17
like this like what do people really think yeah definitely but they look pretty reasonable so that's pretty sick
01:07:23
it's an interesting one more thing to sort of just show what we've been working on but say nothing about when
01:07:28
we're hoping to put it out what it's going to do the features it's going to have like that's kind of smart because they're getting live feedback from a lot
01:07:34
of people they're also getting a little bit ahead of whatever glasses announcement apple's about to drop yeah
01:07:42
or something yeah allegedly this year really i mean we'll see the apple one but whatever whenever it is google's
01:07:48
ahead of it now yeah so interesting we shall see yeah that's exciting but that's that's that's all the hardware
01:07:55
yeah that is all of the hardware things what's expecting that google's not a hardware company so they spent 90
01:08:00
minutes on other things but in the last 30 minutes they managed to jam pack all that stuff in and that's sort of our
01:08:06
take any other things we should hit or should we just answer trivia now i think trivia i think that's trivial it's a long
01:08:12
episode despite we only really talked about 30 minutes of the entire thing it was good you should watch the the recap
01:08:18
video on the channel on the main channel we did break down and and summarize everything as fast as possible so if you
01:08:24
made it to the end of this hour-long podcast and need a quick summary got you wow
01:08:29
it's like the tldr from google tldr exactly but let's uh let's let's return to the
01:08:35
trivia questions and attempt to get points okay
01:08:40
first question when was the first ipod released if you can get the day you will get two points
01:08:46
just a year is one point okay yeah i don't think i'm gonna get the day because i don't know when they were time
01:08:52
and things back then i mean it was mac world what if i get the month day and month is it really it wasn't
01:08:58
even exactly is it announced or released released uh i should go first because sounds like
01:09:03
these two know the year easy and i'm just still guessing i know the year i'm guessing the year okay
01:09:08
i'm gonna i'm guessing that it was 19.99 that's my guess oh
01:09:14
wait okay gonna change it introduced good call not released introduced
01:09:20
1999 99 okay i know
01:09:26
wait are you editing out when david says the answer before or i could be a [ __ ] wrestler i actually could be wrong i know david
01:09:32
said 2001 before but so i was thinking 2002 and then you're saying that makes me think 2001. so i'm
01:09:40
gonna go 2001. wow i mean we can have the same amount no guess on month or days
01:09:46
not a chance all right i'm going with um gosh ipod july 2001
01:09:54
let's go with march 1999. i'm so wrong the answer is october 23rd
01:10:00
2000 2001 october we introduced or announced october introduced oh we were doing
01:10:06
introduced i thought we were doing announced he very specifically said
01:10:11
he looked at you said your name and said introduced
01:10:22
wait introduce versus announced released released oh wait yeah wait yeah but you're guessing to be fair the keynote
01:10:28
was in july i just want you to know the keynote was in july 2001. okay well
01:10:33
either way i was wrong yeah and you got 2001. you guys both got space odyssey so they both got one point dang
01:10:40
i well that's annoying because i knew it was october too well that's my fault well you still wouldn't have gotten
01:10:45
today so you wouldn't have gotten through was it 23rd yeah 23rd actually i watched the
01:10:50
original apple uh ipod keynote last night before i went to bed that's hilarious that you still didn't
01:11:01
look at this i literally watched it last night okay so the next question was how old is
01:11:08
sundar chai right all right so sundar sundar you're you're
01:11:13
a good-looking guy he looks great man your jackets look great i think jacket i think he's
01:11:19
56 i was gonna go 58 and that's just
01:11:26
because i'm assuming he's much older than i think he looks because he he's a young looking dude right for a ceo
01:11:33
for anyone 47. before you answer if we all got it wrong can we give a
01:11:39
point to the closest sure so whoever's closest period yeah 47 so
01:11:46
47 andrew 58 58 marquez 56 56 the answer is 49. wow get wrecked
01:11:54
so good at trivia i'm so good at you're a young ceo yeah okay here's the thing i've noticed with
01:12:01
most with most tech ceos they have a lot of money
01:12:08
my thing is we think they're older than they are because we have seen these companies grow up over the last like 10 years but
01:12:15
the thing is when they started at these companies they were hella young true they've probably been if you're the ceo
01:12:22
of a of a very bureaucratic company or a major company like that you have to have been there for like 30 years yeah like i
01:12:28
watched when i watched that ipod keynote last night they um they had a little commercial they were gonna run on tvs
01:12:34
they had phil schiller in the commercial of the original ipod in 2001 and i was like this guy's still giving keynotes
01:12:41
yeah so he must have been super young when he started i have a bonus point oh what year did sundar join
01:12:48
google okay i have bonus trivia sundar sundar started as like a
01:12:54
low-level dude engineer yeah yeah and it was like that's that's the best person to like yeah yeah you actually are in
01:13:01
the thick of it yeah what year did he start oh boy
01:13:09
i'm gonna say 2007. that's the year the iphone came out this
01:13:15
one you need to get the year it's not whoever gets close i'm gonna say 2007
01:13:22
2003 it was actually probably later it's probably like 2009.
01:13:28
i feel like he's i'm saying this was newer than i thought like i don't think he was there well he couldn't be there
01:13:33
for 30 years because he would have been 19. i think he is newer 2012 2004
01:13:40
oh so i was closest yeah but i said you have to get the year i
01:13:52
i admit defeat on that one wow yeah yeah now shout out tsunder i mean if you haven't seen our interview with sundar
01:13:57
where we talk about a little bit of ai stuff a little bit of computing a little bit of what google's up to you should watch that that'll be in the show now
01:14:04
i want that jacket yeah i mean there's not a lot of 8k videos of sundar on the internet i'll put it that way so if you
01:14:10
just want to admire sundar looking young then there you go did we export that in 8k uh it was shot in ak
01:14:17
and then it's up in 4k but you know you don't usually get to see these interviews with people just sitting down and talking so it's got
01:14:24
great facial hair so if you want to see the like individual strands that's okay this really sounds brought to you by fox media our
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notes for all the relevant links but that's where we'll end it what's the new trivia score i got zero
01:14:40
i have five still andrew you both got one andrew got one i got two marquez has five andrew has three david has two now
01:14:47
okay but as far as the ratio goes of how many shows we've been on
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impressive either way thank you all right thanks for listening thanks for watching catch you guys next week
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