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thank you [Music] hey what's up people of the internet
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welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David and we
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got a pretty light week this week because there's kind of a bunch like right on the horizon some stuff we're not allowed to talk about so we're gonna
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get a lot next week when we do talk about that stuff but you know we still have some some interesting announcements
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and stuff uh pole star got a facelift Twitter new to third-party apps and now two of my favorite apps of all time are
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dead and it's making me really sad and uh there's also some layoffs and things in the tech world that we can talk about
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but first we should recap this past week of a bunch of Apple products that came out that we did actually get to review
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and use because last time we talked about these it was before we were allowed to reveal that we had them and
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that we were reviewing them now the reviews are out so there's the M2 Mac Pro sorry M2 Mac
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M2 Pro great naming so there we go so everything has never changed yeah this
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is Evergreen so M2 Pro and M2 Max MacBook Pro those are really the more I think about them they're really tough
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names yeah Mac and Max should never have been approved Max how did no one say that out loud that's remote M1 Max Mac
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you know how we've been doing alliterations for the ending of a lot of videos the name itself is M2 Max Mac
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yeah that's that's a lot right anyway we reviewed them and also the M2 and M2 Pro
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Mac Mini I found the laptops the M2 Pro and M2
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Max laptops to be excellent to be an appropriately Small Bump up from the M1
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Pro and M1 Max which is not a surprise if you have those laptops there's no need to upgrade
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every year those are great laptops but you did get the improved uh efficiency you did get a little bit more battery
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life you did get HDMI 2.1 you need to get a few more cores so like better laptop no shocking surprises there great
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I am much more interested in and happy with the Mac Mini because that gives me
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like a new default Mac to recommend it's 5.99 for the M2 Mac Mini and you can use
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whatever display you want and if you don't need a laptop that's actually the one you should get and then if you need more then you can build up from there
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so that's kind of how I reviewed them they are both up live on the channel now any other thoughts on these Macs yeah
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um this just came out this morning but the 14 inch base model has a slower SSD
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this time because it used to be four Nan chips and now it's two we saw this last
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year um with the I guess last year yeah we saw this last year with the M2 MacBook
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Air it had slower storage speed because they use less chips so you can't do
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sequential writing and reading so now it's down to read scores of around 3000
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megabytes per second and write scores of about 3000 megabytes per second compared to the almost 5 000 reads and 4 000
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writes last year um substantial downgrade but 3000 is still very good that's what I was gonna
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say three gigs a second is still a lot I hear I see headlines like this and I'm like all right it's slower and the
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benchmarks are gonna go find it and it's gonna be a headline but will anyone actually using them need to make a
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different buying decision because of it like is it actually a huge difference like a problematic difference like it's annoying if you're moving a lot of data
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and you get you know two gigs less a second it's kind of annoying but if you're working in the world working with
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a lot of big files you may notice are you also is that person buying the base version I don't know yeah but it still should be that I was getting like 6 000
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I remember doing my testing yeah it's only on the 512 gigabyte model so basically it's only that the base 14
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inch yeah I guess if you only have 512 of storage like if you're mad that
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you're not getting another two two gig write speed you don't have a lot of storage to do
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anything with that anyways so yeah yeah I mean yeah if you're moving Storage off
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of the main computer and onto an SSD though then the write speed slower yeah which you'll do more yeah maybe I need
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some more yeah so it's annoying but it makes sense um I think it's it probably saves Apple money to just use higher
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tiered storage chips instead of more smaller chips that's exactly what it is
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we made touch on this topic a little bit in an upcoming video but that's the story for another day
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we'll get to that video when we get to it um so the Macs are out I think I think
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they're pretty good my hot take is good super spicy yeah all right well we can
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talk about we can talk about uh Mac Pro whenever it comes out because that's that's the last step of this how long
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have you been saying that for well also iMac is like still weirdly just chilling and on M1
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yeah I don't think they see a point in pushing it yeah unless there's a pro I
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don't I could see them waiting until M3 honestly because of how good the Mac Mini is there's no reason to buy an iMac
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yeah I mean there's like stores that buy IMAX like there's this tiny like wine shop across the way from me that has an
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M1 iMac because it's convenient yeah it has an all-in-one because they could buy a Mac Mini and a 300 Monitor and to make
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money but then they have exactly yeah I think there are a lot of people out there who like they just know desktop
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computer exactly plugging in a monitor sounds so easy for all of us but like if I were to buy a computer for somebody
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that I know I'm the dedicated Tech person for I'd rather I would least amount of cables possible one cable and
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an iMac variable yeah FPS variables but that's right it's got a white bezel I mean I'm sure that person agreed that
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person probably doesn't care about it too but yeah the wine shop owner does not care she's just trying to sell one
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yeah she doesn't care okay yeah all right well it'll set it it'll say that we'll wait for the Mac Pro all right
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pole star 2024 facelift I like some of these uh these modern Eevee facelifts
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we're seeing every time I do an autofocus video on a new modern EV what's my favorite thing to pay attention to like how they what that
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company thinks an EV should look like and they all kind of have ended up with this minimal face with uh bar lights and
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sort of modern LED light patterns especially when you turn on and off the car things like that that's become very
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common uh and so I like to see you know how they how they think about this I would say a lot of cars are going this
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way in general like you're seeing we were just talking about the Kia Nero before and how like there have been some
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out there because they have the hybrid version and there is the EV version but like Kia's been going that route also
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there they've been trying to update their whole model like yeah to get away from the old Kia and it'd be the new
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awesome Kia that I think a lot of people like um this looks great though I don't know
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how I feel about Todd getting rid of the they had like a meshed grill before and now they're just swapping to basically
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like it just kind of looks like a little like laser lidar system I do prefer the
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I do prefer the old Grill yeah but I don't mind this new one into color match it kind of reminds me of the Mustang
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Mach e yeah where you can either get the GT with the color matching or the regular one which is just black but the
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the old Pulstar girl is better than just like a black shiny plastic it was kind of nice I like this I think I would like
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this one better if that lidar sensor wasn't like right in the middle like yeah like I wish it was in that little
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Gap underneath and then Blends in with it because yeah then it would look really nice yeah strange but just having
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this little dot on the front of the car is a little weird yeah yeah other than that I think this looks really is it
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even a lidar sensor whatever it is camera sensor hole for a camera or something yeah yeah so the it is a spec
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bump kind of like the new laptops so it's got 300 miles of range on a single motor version It's a slightly larger
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battery capacity too to get that 300 miles it can charge at 205 kilowatts Which is higher than the previous 155
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kilowatts so that's good um the dual motor doesn't get a bigger battery but you do get better performance uh 299 horsepower and 361
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pound feet of torque versus slightly lower numbers of before so the rear wheel drive can do 0-60 in 5.9 seconds
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which was is kind of quick it was seven seconds before yeah which is I mean that's a big difference pretty big
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difference once you get under five and a half seconds you start to get to like sporty sports car territory this is like
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decently quick yeah um and there's also now a rear-wheel drive version so that was new we didn't
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have a rear wheel drive version before it's just the all-wheel drive pole star so I like it yeah
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um I think price tag is going to be all the killer like the most important thing about this and my uh I'm not I don't
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even think this is a hot take either but like pole star is in my top four favorite EVS period yeah on the planet
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do you think it gets much of a uh price bump or difference because this like feels like a this is the new thing that
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I think is really interesting in EVS is Tesla's been around the longest so we see it in that I don't know if
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everything else will do it but are we gonna get the 2023 pull star or are we just gonna get the Pulstar 2 updated
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like you posted Gen 2 where it doesn't really say it and I think because it's a small facelift it can be kind of like
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the M2 MacBook Pro fall into the same price tag but just be a little bit better than last time I wouldn't be surprised if this falls into same price
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tag yeah they added wireless chargers and Driver awareness features as standard now as well something that was
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annoying with the Pulstar is that it started at a pretty good price but they're add-on packages all costed a lot
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of money and they were features that were standard and a lot of other EVS right so that was frustrating yeah and it was like six thousand dollars to add
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like wireless chargers and the driver assistant stuff oh yeah so you're actually saving quite a bit of money now that they're like bundling that stuff in
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which is good yeah yeah I like it I'm into the Pulsar my top EVS as far as
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like overall package usability are Tesla Model S right above
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Porsche taikan right above rivian r1t and then pull Star as far as ones I've tried I really think Hyundai and Kia are
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going to like I still think they're really good so well but the materials and the the overall like build of the
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pole star is is better really what's the price tag on a pole star it's like starting at 50. those are around yeah
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upper 40s 50s easily a lot of them are in the 50s yeah uh so it feels like it like the ionic is nice but it it isn't
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built as well it's surely like downgraded from that but it's yeah what is it it's far cheaper pull star starts
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at 48 400. yeah yeah so they just feel sportier than the numbers I don't know
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what it is about the the way it drives it feels like a model Y type of Drive I
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do have to say it's good the thing I don't love about the Pulstar 2 is it's like really close to like it feels like
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it's the crossover between a sedan and a crossover like it feels a little bigger than a sedan but not quite a crossover
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so I'm really really excited for the Pulstar SUV which all the I don't know
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if they're official renders or like officially what the car looks like yet but it looks fantastic like this but
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actually in an SUV version I think looks way better because this still has that weird like chunky back end that like
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kind of looks like it should be a storage like like a hatchbacky type thing yeah yeah my only concern is the
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SUV gonna have like the same battery and everything because then it's gonna get less range it will get yeah so that's a
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question it probably will also have to have upgraded Tech because there's some is this rumors still 2023 Pulstar I've
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got a CNET article that's saying 500 plus horsepower 300 mile range that would imply much improved I mean
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maybe maybe this battery that they're getting ready for the Pulsar 3 is what they're adding into this facelift pole
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star 2 and that's why it's getting better battery or is it just because it's now they're doing a single motor and you just get better efficiency out
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of that but that's like it's a pretty significant battery bump right I think it's a term not way bigger but it moves
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at like 30 more miles it was what like two was it 240 before um I think it was above 250. okay it was
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one of very few though it might just be rear wheel then it's 82 kilowatt hours versus 78 so like okay slightly more not
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massive but percentage-wise that's fairly decent it sounds like an accumulation of a bunch of small factors like a slightly bigger battery is one
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slightly more efficient Motors is another slightly you know the facelift is probably better
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for aerodynamics honestly like a bunch of little things added together equals 30 more miles of range cool uh faster
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charging I think is actually more important but yeah I'll take it yeah I'll take it also did you use last thing
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on this did you feel when you drove the pole star the Rangers act like very accurate when you were driving it Oh
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that's a good question usually I mean this was very early in my testing so I don't remember as well
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um I do remember on paper it being one of the only ones with 250 plus like a lot of the ones we saw coming out were
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like oh we'll have 220 we'll have 240. but I don't remember exactly how accurate it was good good the rest of
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the experience is great good drive good software like good space good materials and build and everything and I like the way it looks so I hope it is I guess my
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question being is like I always like that number 300 but I when Tesla was the
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only one over there I was always like well 320 is like 300 so this at 300 is
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like is this a really accurate 300 or are you gonna get under there and this is yeah being super picky but 300 seems
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to be that great number I would like to test it for autofocus yeah the rivian when I fully charge it to 100 says 303
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on the dash and I have full confidence when I leave the driveway I can drive 300 miles okay I'm not the same amount
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of that with a Tesla so we'll see what this where this ends up being on the Spectrum one thing I've been thinking about do you think that this is like are
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we getting too used to a car being Tech where every update we're expecting
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bigger things because this seems pretty iterative I like I like this so this is one of the
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things that uh Tesla does that a lot a lot of other companies don't do which is obviously there's a bunch of paradigms
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that they don't do but having a new model year every single year
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in a mature category this ends up feeling like kind of pointless yeah like
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it's getting to that point in smartphones where we get a new model year boom Galaxy s23 okay let me compare
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versus last year is worth an upgrade not really that important right I think it's if it's slowly improving over time then
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yeah it's like a piece of tech like it'll always get a little better a little better a little better and sure that means that there's going to be some
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facelifts that are bigger bumps than others every few years yeah and you kind of want to make sure you don't miss one of those and buy right before one of
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those but I like I like the version of a car that's slowly always improving over time instead of waiting waiting waiting
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new model year waiting waiting waiting new model year just just sell people the best car you can make and if it gets better a little bit
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month to month then I'm happy yeah I think there are like two kind of like ideas towards this you've got the like
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PC companies for example the Razer Blade it's always Razer Blade 2022 Razer Blade
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2023. they're never like you know the brand new razor blade it's like they just say the model number because the
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year number because it's pretty much the same thing and they have iterative upgrades but until until they like make
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a massive refresh they're not going to make a big deal about it and I think that generally makes sense and then you
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can just introduce like a new category at some point cars in general generally do like a four to five year like
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generational upgrade where it's like the 2020
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2021 and then it's like at 2025 it's like big big facelift like like more
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distinguishable between the two not the like little tiny like right now between by Forester and last year's Forester like the headlight there's this like
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little tiny difference in some of the tricks but does that work for EVS when it's like a tech thing basically I think
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it does I think it does I mean like I think so if you look at Tesla they kind of they kind of have Generations like if you look at model S we have plaid now
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because we call it like kind of the drivetrain is the way we name it but the previous one was the Raven Model S and
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before that there was just kind of like the new refreshed nose cone and then before that was kind of just like 75d or
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whatever we just call sort of a couple Generations uh so I think yeah it's just like some of the pieces that improve
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will be bigger than others if you just do a nose cone and better efficiency in the motors and you get 10 more range you
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just kind of do it and tell people about it and it's a slightly improved car but it's not a new version of the car I
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think you could make arguments both ways on like the Tesla version you might not have to wait a whole year to get an
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update but the like Legacy car manufacturer version is like you get to
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see what the spec bump is going to be come the new year and you know when the new ones version so when it's September
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and you're like I'm gonna go buy a Model S you're not like that's true oh I can wait because I know these couple new
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features are gonna be in the next one versus like I'm gonna buy it and then the the minute I sit down and sit in it
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I see everybody else is getting something it has bit me before yeah so with the with the more traditional model it becomes way more obvious when there's
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a good time to buy yeah bad time to buy a bad time to buy is right when they're about to do a new generation and you
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kind of know when they're about to do each generation with the Tesla yeah I waited until dual motor p100d came out
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and I said Ah that's a good time to buy and then I bought and then one week after delivery they said here's the new
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autopilot Hardware all cars will get sorry your car doesn't have it yeah so
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yeah there are definitely upsides the downside I will say as like Tech heads it's really fun to have things that are
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completely different like I think the Nexus line was like a good example of that because it was manufactured by a different company every single year so
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every year you had no idea what it was going to look like TC is it going to be Motorola yeah and it was a different it
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was a different manufacturer almost every year like they repeated a couple of times but it always looked super different and super unique and that was
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super fun because you just had no clue it was also less mature yeah totally yeah yeah and I think that that is kind
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of what it comes down to is like the maturity of the category like the MacBook Pro like the whole reason that
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they didn't maybe put the face ID in the in the cameras is because they're gonna let that mature a little bit and then a
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few years down the line they'll make a bigger upgrade that makes maybe makes it look slightly different yeah they just
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want to see Marquez and sandals yeah they saw that they saw that clip and they were like take it out this is it
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take the face ID out yeah I mean we all got upset that like the 13-inch used the
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same chassis as the previous touch bar 13 which I agree it's annoying especially since you I think we assume
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that because you change the chip you should be changing the whole chassis yeah they didn't do that it's kind of
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weird that they didn't do it on the second generation two I was assuming that they would and I don't know why they released an M2 version of that but
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maybe they should have a lot of chassis left but supply chain yeah either way I think like really big upgrades are fun
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but they don't always make sense to the manufacturer yeah if you were running uh
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a car company would you would you save all of the tech upgrades over time and
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watch other manufacturers pull away and make better cars until you can do a big generational update or would you think
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it makes more sense to just hey if we can improve the car tomorrow let's do it it's also risk assessment right like if
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you've got the Prius and the Prius is selling like just steadily over the years making a huge change to it is
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pretty risky because even if you think oh this looks really cool maybe the people that would normally buy the Prius
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because they like the way the Prius looks are not gonna buy it anymore I I would say something's coming charge a
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price for it and then every time it doesn't come increase the price so people think it's coming sooner pay more
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money and then just pretty much never release that thing and then declare bankruptcy that has not happened you
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could have it he could have a future buying a car company um wait I want to correct one thing
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really quickly I think we mentioned the so the Pulstar 2 there is a single motor version and it gets 270 miles so we're
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looking at like a 30 30 mile update yeah like David said but there was a single motor version but it was from a previous
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one yes right yeah so the new one's rear wheel drive option yeah yeah that's
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interesting all right well we got to take a quick break we got a lot more to talk about after that but before we jump
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into the break you know what time it is [Music] trivia time
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it'll be louder and post okay so gotta get amped play that something
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louder yeah what about the like metal rock music that used to play where is
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that I have that here you do well that was like a light show welcome to the waveform trivia podcast I
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can't wait till one of these quasars just explodes behind us I feel like we've had so many would that be more
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amped that it did honestly yeah we were feeling a little low-key we've had a lot of like really chaotic
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high energy episodes recently so I feel like the lack of an like busy Newsweek is like okay it's a nice little Calm
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before the storm Chad gbt wrote This Hold Up next week will be again all right trivia
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so we've been talking a lot about Apple recently with the MacBooks and everything coming out the homepod so I
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did a bit of Googling and came up with a question on average how long does it take an apple tree to produce an apple
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if you plant it from the seed how long does it take an apple tree to produce an apple genetically modified or nope all
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natural yeah free range Apple grass-fed
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we're back um we're going to talk a little bit about some stuff in the Microsoft layoff
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world but also that is related very intensely to open Ai and chat GPT and I
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wanted to bring this back with a chat GPT query that I saw this morning that said compose a message announcing a
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seven percent reduction in headcount while also promoting Executives to new titles and also include a quote from
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Martin Luther King oh no um says I might have to cut this yeah
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we'll see we'll see uh I mean I don't know it says Dear team I'm writing to
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inform you that we will be implementing a seven percent reduction in head count across the company this decision was not
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made lightly but is necessary in order to ensure the long-term success of our organization at the same time I am
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pleased to announce the promotion of several Executives to new titles within the company these individuals have
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demonstrated exceptional leadership and dedication and we are confident that they will continue to make valuable contributions to our team I understand
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that this news may be difficult for some of you but as Martin Luther King Jr said the ultimate measure of a man is not
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where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience but where he stands at moments at times of Challenge and
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controversy let us all strive to rise to this Challenge and continue to work together towards our shared goals
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sincerely your name yeah it's pretty rough that's terrible
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yeah um the reason we brought that up yeah uh was because Microsoft did a big layoff
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if you guys have probably heard that every single company tech company yeah every big tech company is doing like
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between a five to ten percent layoff in the last like week or two and it's it's actually kind of weird how they're all
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doing like seven percent like they're all doing seven percent and also close together like it's like the quarter of
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layoffs basically yeah it's like it feels like they're doing it just because everyone else is doing it um but basically we found out a couple
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days ago where all those Microsoft layoffs went and it was really heavy in
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their AR and mixed reality divisions they cut the entire team behind alt
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space VR which they had acquired in 2017 and they also cut the team behind the mixed reality toolkit framework
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um so it seems like they're kind of my my interpretation of what's been going on
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is that because meta did their whole meta transition in 2020 and the like the
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economy was not falling apart yet at that point everyone started pumping just a ton of money into metaverse stuff yeah
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because they didn't want to miss the wave if meta was right but we're at the
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point where they're they've been hemorrhaging so much money now that they're like oh God we're spending so
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much money we have to cut back and so they're cutting back on the metaverse stuff because it hasn't paid any
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dividends yet and it doesn't look like it's going to pay any dividends anytime soon yeah and also like Microsoft did
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that huge announcement with meta when meta announced Oculus Quest Pro but Microsoft doesn't have to do a lot of
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work for that that's a that's better for meta than it is for Microsoft to add all those office apps to Oculus
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um so yeah yeah there's like everyone's kind of freaking out about metaverse and
00:25:48
backing out I just keep seeing the same like basic structure of a story every
00:25:54
time I hear about these layoffs which is they hired a ton in 2020 growth was phenomenal during the pandemic and then
00:26:01
they've realized that they shouldn't have hired that many people and they had to stop yeah and then they got rid of a
00:26:07
lot of those people that they hired yeah so that story happened again I I also
00:26:13
keeps we're going to talk about AI because obviously the chat GPT and the open AI investment Microsoft made and that's like kind of they did actually
00:26:19
make the investment because last time we were talking it was rumored right and now it's official that they're making a multi-bear multi-beer multi-year yeah
00:26:27
multi-billion dollar investment yeah um so I I think that they're moving all of
00:26:32
their money away from metaverse stuff and into AI stuff because AI is clearly
00:26:37
clearly going to start paying insane dividends very soon yeah whereas anything metaverse related is like 10
00:26:44
years down the line and they can't deal with that yet like they just can't expend that much yeah I saw a story
00:26:50
recently of like chat GPT like like passing an exam like a college professor
00:26:55
gave chat GPT an exam and it got like a B minus or something which is kind of funny but I actually I really
00:27:00
appreciated one take from a professor I think the question this is probably an NPR article someone's already heard because I heard it this morning but the
00:27:07
the interviewer was like are you concerned about students like cheating on exams now that they have chat GPT
00:27:14
like it's going to happen right they're going to ask it for an essay and they're going to give you essays written by chat
00:27:20
GPT and the professor was like not only am I not worried about them using chat GPT I actually encourage and in some
00:27:26
some instances require them to use chat GPT for their work
00:27:32
because human nature didn't change with the Advent of AI cheaters are going to cheat so I might as well embrace the
00:27:39
fact that this new tool is available and it's available to everyone and so we might as well get good at actually taking the things that chat GPT spits
00:27:47
out and turning it into a useful thing and that's actually what I'm going to grade you on how well you could turn that into something useful and I thought
00:27:53
that was interesting really solid because that's what real people are going to do and you do have to go through what it says and like fact check
00:27:59
stuff and make sure stuff is right if you don't want to get caught for cheating yeah but that's at that point
00:28:05
you're probably learning the information exactly potentially better than like that's why he's saying that right I did
00:28:10
a bunch of online courses of courses that I already failed in college and I wound up one not wanting
00:28:17
to fail so that helped a little bit but like in my you know uh Advanced research right
00:28:24
around test time I seem to remember those things better because I was like good at searching the internet and
00:28:30
finding stuff rather than listening to a teacher drone for a while yeah yeah yeah
00:28:36
there's just like a I I I fully see chat GPT specifically as a tool to use and I
00:28:42
don't there's no way that I like I write video scripts there's no way I'm gonna input a prompt into PT take that and say
00:28:49
it on camera as if it's me but what I am actually doing more now is using it to help brainstorm things whether it's an
00:28:55
alliteration at the end of the video or a couple extra points to back up something we've been researching already I hit the mic sorry that that's that's a
00:29:03
useful tool to figure out a way to bolster these things and I think regular people are going to do that anyway so I
00:29:09
whoever that Professor was that said that I'm fully on board I back you with that get good at using these tools
00:29:15
because that's going to be valuable in real life but also you're not going to be able to if you're in class you're not
00:29:21
going to be able to like use chat GPT when you're writing on a piece of paper so so that's true about riding on a
00:29:28
piece of paper in class but I often wonder how important that particular
00:29:33
skill is yeah like Andrew said like Andrew said like if well I don't know I
00:29:39
get hand cramps yeah me too yeah but I mean like Andrew said if you're doing
00:29:45
the assignment online or something and you have to fact check everything like maybe that's just a different way to learn you know like going through and
00:29:52
editing someone else's work is actually like you have if you're fact checking stuff you are making sure you know the
00:29:58
information exactly so yeah like school is like useful for like preparing you for the real world ideally yeah so I
00:30:03
think if you're going to prepare people for the real world what are you going to do in the real world are you going to sit in a room with no internet and a piece of paper and like write things
00:30:09
down or are you going to use the tools available to you on the internet to make the best thing you can you're not always going to have chat GPT on your phone in
00:30:15
your pocket for you to use it whenever you want I don't know it's like your calculator the entire world's knowledge
00:30:21
base at your fingertips out in the real world I will say like we're saying like oh you have to fact check you have to fact check it but I think that what
00:30:28
every company is doing right now is just trying to increase the accuracy of their air language models like Google
00:30:33
intentionally has said that they don't want to release something until they
00:30:39
have like an extremely high confidence interval that it's going to spit out accurate information and yes there there
00:30:46
was that article that said they are like re-examining their risk factor for how accurate it can be that's them going oh
00:30:53
my God everyone loves chat GPT and we've had this thing for a while that people haven't used but we showed on the stage
00:30:58
at i o every year but it hasn't had nearly the same viral impact I wonder if we can set it free a little bit yeah
00:31:04
there was a there was an article that said they're probably going to just dump a ton of AI stuff at i o this year
00:31:10
please please do but what you're saying so the I guess my take on uh using these
00:31:16
tools right now is a very in the now take because right now
00:31:21
chat GPT and tools that are good with AI are better than guessing but still worse
00:31:27
than humans and there's a gap yeah and the better the AI gets the smaller the Gap is between humans and it is a
00:31:34
specific skill to go fact check and to go research and to be able to turn that thing that that's spit out into a good
00:31:41
piece but the closer that that Gap gets and the better that AI gets and the
00:31:46
closer it is to humans the less important that skill is and that's going to be a whole nother weird
00:31:52
Frontier that's going to be strange because you're going to have you're not going to have to have a broad knowledge as much and we might see a return to
00:32:00
people just like chasing the things that make them interested right like right
00:32:05
now you have to do all of these like basic classes in college that don't necessarily give you the skills that you
00:32:10
want for your career but that you're just learning like English and all this stuff but if if the wealth of human
00:32:16
knowledge has already been collected into an AI and you can just use those things to do them more mundane stuff
00:32:22
that you don't want to do Speed Run Middle School yeah and then you can use the AI tasks the AI features and like
00:32:27
also just the internet to get better at the things you actually want to do we might see some sort of like creative
00:32:32
Renaissance or something I don't know yeah you can't take far out but you can't take what Dolly spits out and
00:32:38
frame it that you can take it as inspiration for your own work you could frame it but what if Dolly gets so good
00:32:43
that you can just frame it actually well my so I went I visited my sister for Christmas and I went into one of her
00:32:49
rooms and her husband has all this like space art on the wall and I was like oh this is cool like did you buy this on
00:32:55
Etsy he's like oh no I put it into Dolly and then I printed it out oh whoa yeah and so like sick he has like five
00:33:00
paintings on the wall that were all made by Dolly that's kind of dope I like that that's a very specific moment in time
00:33:07
when Dolly just spits out like kind of pseudo art and you're just like yeah that's good enough for me yeah yeah it
00:33:13
was all like trippy space Arts that's good enough for me it's abstract but it kind of looks like space and you're like
00:33:18
yeah I like that yeah I do think um we're saying how like it's getting better than guessing but not quite human
00:33:24
those it's going to incrementally work and get harder and harder to get closer
00:33:30
and closer and like right now we're there there's a tweet going around the other day that was like technically
00:33:36
right but not totally right about it passing a bunch of exams but it was actually like 50 on like the bar exam or
00:33:43
something which is not quite passing and then that was only one part of it so it's doing a bunch of these exams like
00:33:50
you said B minus yeah it seems like good I I don't know it's said the like a
00:33:56
medical license exam the bar exam apparently none of these were really like a good passing grade uh our exam is
00:34:03
really hard though I think that's cool I guess the other thing I missed though is like I get past that even if you have this tool at your
00:34:11
disposal so many of these things that we're testing it out on like you still need the human reaction time of things
00:34:17
where like you need to just have this stuff in your repertoire anyways so yeah where can this go from there it's an
00:34:24
interesting in between of how we're going to use this as a tool and where we'll use it and where does it reach its
00:34:30
limits and and that a little scary and cool and like I'm excited about the tools I wish
00:34:35
I had it to cheat in college I mean work in college and like I don't know it's a real real college students today are
00:34:42
really having to deal with this but I also think that Professor talking about he's not worried because
00:34:47
he people will use it as a tool but the people who are just going to cheat cheat are going to copy and paste it and it's
00:34:53
gonna be painfully obvious and you're just gonna fail though it's like if you're going out there saying I can
00:34:58
write this whole paper with chat GPT and just do a couple of fact checks you're gonna fail that paper they're gonna know immediately which is why you should
00:35:04
embrace like that skill tool of like turning it into a good piece yeah for
00:35:09
sure the tool is to help you not to just do it for you yeah for now
00:35:15
disclaimer we do not endorse cheating oh no don't cheat why not don't don't do it
00:35:20
I don't do it as I say your money's worth because you paid so much money to learn how to do things yeah anyway I
00:35:27
wish I remembered that when I was in college I wish I knew that when I was in college I would like to mourn the death of an app
00:35:33
again [Music] sorry it's death yeah it's death I went
00:35:42
to the funeral March I already lost dark sky this was so painful but dark sky we
00:35:48
had this six month Rampart was like apples looked Us in the eye and they were like we're gonna murder your
00:35:54
favorite weather app at the end of the year so get ready yeah and for six for five and three quarter months I
00:35:59
continued using dark sky like nothing was going to change and then on December 31st I had an existential crisis and I
00:36:04
was like oh my God dark sky is going to die what do I do um and so I did eventually find uh a one
00:36:12
that we can talk about which is pretty solid but now after mourn the death of another favorite app and that is
00:36:17
flamingo for Twitter and all the rest of the Twitter apps I used over the years Phoenix and tweetbot and shout out to
00:36:23
the others um because Twitter just nuked all third party Twitter clients yeah which on one
00:36:30
hand yeah of course they did it makes perfect sense if you ran a website and some
00:36:35
people just made an alternative client that's just serving the same version of your website and minus all the ads that
00:36:41
make you money yeah obviously you would kill it right but I've been using them for so long that I didn't realize how
00:36:49
bad the stock Twitter app actually is yeah which is it's bad it's just bad it's a bad app so now Twitter is worse
00:36:56
for me I respond to tweets less because my my mentions are just broken sometimes and I just don't see like hours in a row
00:37:03
of mentions yeah that sucks so yes RIP uh all of the best Twitter apps that
00:37:08
we've used over the past I feel like there was like five different ways to cut into that sorry yeah I think the
00:37:15
first thing is like didn't Twitter use some third-party app like features and then bring them into
00:37:22
Twitter like hasn't that been a thing I I was reading something about how like it's a little different how third-party
00:37:29
apps have worked with Twitter because they've really like helped in the growth of Twitter as a whole I'd be very mistaken somewhere I would like to see
00:37:35
that if anyone that's true for Android ROMs too yeah yeah Android would always eventually just add like features that
00:37:41
ROMs had there are a lot of companies that wind up doing that I mean even if you're going to gaming like Minecraft used third-party things I guess yeah at
00:37:49
that point it wasn't necessarily taking away ad revenue from it which I think is a little weird because there's also things like YouTube Advanced which is
00:37:56
like taking away ads and taking away or giving you extra features the I hate
00:38:02
Vance because I think it's taking away from the creators like you're also directly interfering with that
00:38:08
um Twitter but yeah I think when I'm pretty sure Elon found out third-party
00:38:14
apps took away ads and was like [Music] later yeah well they also have their
00:38:19
first interest payment coming up yeah at the end of the month I think they own what they owe one billion dollars like a
00:38:25
billion dollars every time yeah yeah do you think they could have kept the the apps with just like a rule set in there
00:38:32
of you need to allow ads I think you need to allow your ads I think there are so few people work for
00:38:38
Twitter now that it was just easier to just pull all the keys I my my other assumption is like did the API team that
00:38:47
was like updating for these Twitter apps just get nuked and then when like an update came around it was time to like
00:38:53
there was something they needed to do with the API and then just all of a sudden they're like oh we need to do this like blah blah blah thing for the
00:39:00
API for all the third parties and they're like they're gone so uh yeah he's like just a back end thing because
00:39:05
stuff's just stopped working yeah for a week and then they eventually updated they updated the terms of service like a
00:39:12
week later which is yeah which is really ridiculous but exactly what I would expect it's classic Twitter what are the
00:39:18
rules I don't know we can't find out because they're fired yeah we're just gonna change them and
00:39:24
communicate them a week later um I will say like it sucks for all the developers that have just been spending
00:39:30
like like over 10 years developing these apps and then you just wake up one day and you're just like everything you
00:39:35
worked on for the last decade is uh just doesn't work anymore like that's insane like I I didn't think about that that much until the other day and I was like
00:39:41
all of those people and it's their entire livelihood is just like screwed that's like if YouTube just decided to
00:39:47
stop allowing people to upload videos yeah or stop like paying Android yeah yeah like oh or even if yeah I mean
00:39:55
there's a ton of examples of crazy stuff I just like it was yeah my the Twitter experience for me is just like oh I
00:40:01
follow people and when I open the app I just get a list of the things that are posted by the people that I follow super
00:40:07
simple chronologically great and then you go to the uh the Twitter app and there's like a for you page and there's
00:40:14
immediately an ad at the top and then there's a tweet from someone you don't follow and then there's a tweet that's liked by someone you follow but I didn't
00:40:19
sign up to see that yeah and there's just this whole mix of things and it's like I yeah vastly preferred the Twitter
00:40:25
experience in the third party apps what were you using before this happened I was just using the Twitter app so was I
00:40:32
and like I hate this I can't believe I was a Twitter well it used to not be as bad I believe that well yes it wasn't as
00:40:39
it used to be pretty decent yeah that's that's the true thing I keep hearing which is on my timeline people would always be saying is Twitter getting
00:40:45
worse and I'd be like nope it's fine everything's fine my app is working perfectly but meanwhile the stock
00:40:50
Twitter app that everyone's using has been getting worse and so now that I just jumped over to it I just jumped into like a flaming room yeah that's we
00:40:58
eased into the pain yeah oh yeah included out the door the elevator with no floor at the outside
00:41:04
when the API Keys got dropped I I just got kicked out of the nice quiet room into like the streaming everything's on
00:41:11
fire yeah it was crazy how quick one of the app developers that made a super popular third-party Twitter app like the
00:41:16
next day after he got booted off he released him Mastered on it because I know if you are no I don't know I think
00:41:23
it's tweet Bots yes yeah okay that's funny yeah um but I think that this kind of signals back to like
00:41:29
an earlier time of the internet when like Reddit for example also has a bazillion third-party apps right true
00:41:36
and I think that websites early on didn't really expect for the app ecosystem to get to get someone saying
00:41:42
it took Reddit a very long time to make an official app they um on iOS there was
00:41:48
the only popular Reddit app was called alienblue and they just bought Alien Blue and turned into the official Reddit
00:41:53
app and the Android one was yeah reddit is fun which I still use today which I feel like feels weird that I'm not just
00:41:59
using Reddit but I've been using it for so long that I am a long time ago I used bacon reader which felt like I was just
00:42:06
gonna say that shout out bacon reader and then I used up uh on on iOS right now I use Apollo or is it Apollo yeah I
00:42:13
think it's Apollo and then on Android the really really it relay for Reddit is like the best one yeah but I think that
00:42:18
yeah in the early internet like when all of these Web 2.0 websites like weren't thinking about oh we need to make an app
00:42:24
first experience it made sense for them to allow third parties to make apps because it was just free work for them
00:42:31
like it was allowing other people to drive them traffic and they didn't really care it's like oh other people
00:42:37
are signing up for our service using our service being on our service I think that's the key is you need to through that third party app allow people to
00:42:43
interface with all the best parts especially the parts that make you money it's like people need to be able to sign up through it people need to be able to if there's a subscription they need to
00:42:49
be able to do that if there's Reddit Gold they should be able to buy it in the third party app and Reddit gets all the money they don't allow I don't think
00:42:54
so that's interesting yeah but that's that's I think why in those early days when the only real goals were like more
00:43:02
traffic where it's like oh this is kind of a green light because it's benefiting our one goal so we'll allow it and out
00:43:08
they have more goals it's a little more complicated yeah so Twitter has a very clear goal right now which is cut costs
00:43:13
and make more money yeah and now that that's happening with ads and there's an active third-party ecosystem that does
00:43:18
not help with that yeah bring them all over here so now we're all over on the stock Twitter app I mean
00:43:25
I think even if you want to go back a step to you're saying how like you don't really read your mentions anymore do you
00:43:31
think part of that is because now people can pay to be verified and now your verified tab is like no I was I I go
00:43:38
through every single mention in order from everyone so when I post a new video and I tweet the new video literally like
00:43:45
for the next hour I read every single reply on Twitter from anyone verified or not now if I want to go to the mentions
00:43:51
tab sometimes it's just broken and doesn't show anything newer than six hours ago so I just can't do that activity anymore maybe if I look at
00:43:57
activity under the Tweet but some people will tweet about the video and tag me and that won't show up there I won't see
00:44:02
it so there's just like it's just a worse experience for me someone who used a lot of Twitter just in chronological
00:44:08
order scrolling yeah I I think the verified stuff is I still hate it
00:44:14
there's like there's points where it felt like we're communicating with the other friends we have and like this Tech
00:44:20
YouTube space and like not to say I if I'm going to just reply to something that I tweeted I'll just look in that
00:44:26
tweet if I'm trying to see if like other people in our space are tweeting about things like with me I can't see it
00:44:31
anymore because I have dozens and dozens of tweets from like verified people that
00:44:37
I'm like have I met did I meet them somewhere like no it's just someone random it's it's not I don't know it's
00:44:44
still a weird weird situation at that point I think Twitter overall has
00:44:49
definitely gotten worse I don't know any if anyone can believe differently uh I'd
00:44:54
be very surprised yeah maybe here's a positive note for this whole story I did find a weather app okay cool
00:45:00
[Music] and that is yeah it's huge for me I mean
00:45:06
dark sky was my whole life I was I was a web committee on our frisbee team uh so so carrot carrot weather app it
00:45:13
basically uh and they tweeted at me a bunch of times after I was like mourning a lot this loss of desk dark sky they
00:45:18
have a like a dark sky look-alike layout that's like hidden in the settings and you can like enable it and it looks
00:45:24
basically just like dark sky and so that to me was close enough like it's not exactly the same radar features
00:45:30
aren't exactly the same but it was close enough and then it has a bunch of other cool features it's got a bit of a
00:45:35
personality I I open it up and it let me oh I don't have my phone on I like but it does it just reads the weather in a
00:45:41
snarky way it's cool I think it's funny I don't even use it and I follow dark or carrot and the uh the Creator on
00:45:48
Twitter because I just think they're funny yeah they're funny yeah it's good so you know if you were looking for that replacement I think this is it like the
00:45:55
stock weather app on the iPhone theoretically uses a lot of the same data and features I think it uses dark
00:46:02
sky data um but it's not the same layout it's not the same set of features in the same way
00:46:07
and dark sky was such a well laid out app to me so if you want to check out carrot it's got
00:46:12
this like timeline view I think is what it's called and uh only iOS right now has the newest update that has that
00:46:19
apparently the Android update is in the works but I don't think we're seeing that until end of this year so so I'm
00:46:25
using weather on iPhone I guess yeah I'm also realizing how different you and I are in a lot of
00:46:31
ways okay so like do you know how you you use a million different like uh
00:46:37
tracking apps for like to-do list your alarm clock for not for weather but
00:46:43
do you want to know how I check the weather you look outside what do you do you definitely don't do that no nobody I
00:46:51
type in the like Google Now bar on the bottom I just type like weather Carney
00:46:56
and then just like the top Google search has a top thing where you can still slide a slider and see stuff that's what
00:47:02
I just used for another that's mostly fine it's temperature it's cloudy or not it's rainy or not like that's the basic
00:47:09
info but when I'm trying to figure out like humidity what time is it going to start
00:47:14
right now I have a homepod for that now true actually debatable because it's
00:47:20
inside but like smoking hot Andrew what time how much snow are we going to
00:47:25
get I know it's going to start snowing but how much snow are we going to get right or I can see the storm on the radar and I can see oh it's actually
00:47:31
currently raining where my sister is and that exact piece of rain is going to come up to where I am like that sort of stuff which maybe I'm just a Wither nerd
00:47:38
and I care but like I don't know you follow a weather YouTuber so dude Ryan Hall I I I know his channel just blew up
00:47:46
with a lot of the crazy weather we've been getting but I don't watch whether on TV anymore I watch Ryan Hall's videos and he's a
00:47:53
great he's fantastic man he's a meteorologist on YouTube it's great well shout out to Ryan Hall link down below
00:47:59
what weather up to you um I do the same as you oh yeah this
00:48:04
table is dividing very hard recently this is chaos I do sometimes look at the
00:48:10
default weather app uh I will say I had a really weird experience yesterday please laugh at me
00:48:16
um so I have some Normie friends okay I have some Army friends theirs is new for
00:48:22
me the worst I made a bunch of Normie friends in the last year some of them um like to look at their horoscope
00:48:29
they understand that it is stupid um and then it's you know random We
00:48:35
Stand zodiac signs we I don't want to get ripped part of this they they made
00:48:41
me download this app called um what's it called it's a zodiac sign it's a horoscope yeah uh it's really
00:48:49
popular co-star I think I downloaded that too hey I believe they're extremely popular yeah it's it's just fun like
00:48:56
it's dumb and fun and it like it'll it's sort of like a social media app because it'll show you like what you're aligned
00:49:01
on with other people on what day and it's super dumb but yesterday morning uh I woke up and it looked like I assumed
00:49:08
it was gonna be cloudy outside and just rainy and cold because my because my apartment doesn't get very much light
00:49:14
I opened up this like zodiac app and it says at the top it says it is
00:49:20
going to be sunny in your area today and I was like what and so then I opened the weather app and
00:49:25
it was like mostly sunny and I was like oh wow
00:49:31
I got my weather too so you use your horoscope [Laughter]
00:49:37
my Google weather looks pretty good uh I don't know
00:49:43
the tier list of weather apps overdrop
00:49:48
stock weather app Googling the weather co-star horoscope they're not looking
00:49:54
outside yes I think we've ever needed an ad break oh
00:49:59
man more than this time look if you ever want to know the exact rate of precipitation I got you I got you it's
00:50:04
just like fun sometimes you know yeah
00:50:12
it's time to it it's just fun and then they're later they're like oh this is so me I am a Sagittarius that is such a Pisces
00:50:21
thing to do oh God that's so Scorpio sorry yeah direct the hate comments yeah I'm sorry guys
00:50:28
okay all right anyway when was tweetbot initially released
00:50:33
that's the question think about it okay let's do ad break come back and then do
00:50:39
answers
00:50:51
all right we're back we do have one more thing I almost forgot there's a ridiculous thing that we need to point out I don't know is this a real product
00:50:57
it's the most important part of this it got announced during the game awards last night so it is a real product yeah or about to be a real product yeah it's
00:51:05
a it's a gaming microphone that's also a muzzle
00:51:10
so picture this picture this you've got a significant other they're trying to
00:51:16
wind it down they're trying to go to bed but you've got some games to win so you go to the other room you start playing
00:51:21
and you get on with the boys or whoever you play with and it's you're starting you're getting really intense you get a
00:51:27
little loud sometimes you clap you're like yelling you got the kill you won the race whatever you're doing clutch in
00:51:33
the other room they're like can you keep it down I'm trying to sleep but you're trying to get your wins right you're trying to win so what's the solution you
00:51:40
close the door no no no no do you do you just talk less no you're trying to have a good time so what you do is you get
00:51:47
the muzzle yeah you strap it around you put it no matter how I say this you
00:51:53
strap it around you you put it on your face you strap it around the back of your head and you are now fully able to yell as
00:52:00
loud as you want just like it's in the game look but the muzzle prevents others
00:52:06
from me sound from escaping who Among Us like I I have I have been in this scenario multiple times when I like when
00:52:12
I was like home for college break or something and I wanted to play DotA at 2AM and my mom like was in the room
00:52:19
right next to me and she would be like David you have to stop talking and I'm like but I want to play yeah like I
00:52:26
don't know I mean it looks ridiculous like it looks completely ridiculous but there is some
00:52:31
function I actually I like yeah I was in an apartment and my computer was on the
00:52:37
wall that was the bedroom so Claire would be sleeping and I'd be like playing Pub G or something and I just
00:52:43
see my phone light up with Claire texting me and be like I'm being too loud yeah and then like look at him be like so this
00:52:50
is something you would get I'd rather be quiet okay it looks like if you put thank you that's what I was gonna say
00:52:56
I'd rather just not say anything it looks like if you put an Oculus Quest over your mouth there actually was
00:53:01
though something very similar to this a few years ago on Kickstarter called
00:53:06
watching this video hush me I believe yeah I think I remember that um and it was pretty much a it was headphone like
00:53:13
do you remember the old Wireless like Bluetooth headphones where you had something like hanging around your neck yeah so imagine that with earbuds and
00:53:21
then a piece that goes over your mouth so that it was so you could take phone calls and people couldn't hear or see
00:53:27
what you were saying in public and then it sounded like a closed off room wow um
00:53:32
oh it looks so bad wow obviously the fact that you've never
00:53:37
heard of it means it didn't do very well I think I saw one person review it once and they were doing it and you could still hear everything
00:53:44
so it didn't even work that well that is the cherry on top it's like you go through all this work to like spend the money buy the thing you put it on you
00:53:51
look ridiculous everyone starts turning and looking at you and they can still hear everything you're saying that's brutal these are there's a reviewer on
00:53:58
here you go back yeah yeah Tech reviewer Tech reviewer on YouTube Hush me classic is an original and quality product ideal
00:54:05
for gamers that's what I yeah yeah wow it's really
00:54:10
a real statement so this uh I don't even know if there's a price or a release date for this uh muzzle
00:54:16
but that's what it is it's a gaming muzzle uh this does not look comfortable either
00:54:22
because it has to strap around the back of your neck and the top of your head oh my God and wearing that for long amounts
00:54:28
of times I said this in the slack yesterday but I really want to use like this plus the like triple monitor
00:54:34
MacBook adapter and just bring all of this stuff into my Cafe and just work all day with all of this stuff and just
00:54:40
see what happens do you know what's just set up a 360 camera and just like capture people's reactions the funny
00:54:47
thing about this is it's not even like that high tech it shows uh not at all a
00:54:53
separated view it's literally just uh like piece of foam that has a
00:54:59
microphone in it shoved in a box that you put over your face yep so it's just foam that's absorbing your it's not even
00:55:06
like active noise canceling or like doing anything intense and it's 200 it is it's a microphone inside a box filter
00:55:13
enough ventilation like I would get concerned about pass out I would get
00:55:18
really concerned about it oh yeah you have to you have to it encourages nose breathing I feel like
00:55:24
that's the real benefit do you want to crap that my allergies would never let me do this your mouth well that's that's
00:55:30
what it's saying is that you can wash the foam later I guess but uh this is literally all it is wow
00:55:36
all right cool well we had to talk about it um I'm gonna use that on the subway mutalk if you like
00:55:43
send us one we'll definitely try it out I will definitely try it out we will definitely try it after you open that
00:55:48
door yeah the door has been open what's more
00:55:53
open than an Open Door a closed mouth I a door not even being there trivia answer trivia time is the
00:56:00
door still a door if there's not a door on it because trivia it's still like a walkway that you can go through I think
00:56:05
it's an entryway one or two oh
00:56:11
Marquez has three points yes Andrew has three points darn David in the lead with
00:56:17
four points unbelievable also quick correction from a previous episode so I
00:56:23
had as one of the trivia questions what was Teenage engineering's first product you guys all said op1 which I thought
00:56:29
was the op one so I marked it correct uh a lot of people on the internet thought it was the op12 but Anton from teenage
00:56:37
engineering actually reached out and said that wow the op1 was like uh one of their first major products it wasn't
00:56:42
actually their first product their first product was a modular desk lamp and they
00:56:49
sent me their old Tumblr page as proof and it looks horrible awesome it's so cool the fact that it's on Tumblr is
00:56:55
amazing yeah they're probably hoping when this was on trivia that you would have gone to their old Tumblr page and
00:57:00
that's how you know it's a good trivia answer no yeah next time I'm going to start checking the Tumblr pages I think
00:57:05
it's crazy that no no one else said like that was wrong that somebody from the company
00:57:12
there's actually this so I'm gonna post this screenshot on the video so if anyone wants to see go check it out keep
00:57:18
our points it was all the same so it doesn't matter yeah you also have the same thing so we could remove the points and it would be exactly the same lead or
00:57:26
we could just keep it I say we keep them yeah why not okay um okay anyway so on average how long
00:57:33
does it take for the average apple tree to get to the center of the Tootsie Pop to produce apples oh yeah close
00:57:41
but okay wait I have a question
00:57:47
um is that when the apple tree has already grown no no it's a from a seed when you plant it in the ground from
00:57:52
seed to tree oh good God what did you see the tree to producing another Apple yes like you know if it drops an apple
00:57:59
and then it has to make a new Apple that was mine wow yeah that's a very different answer
00:58:05
an apple tree we might have to go closest one wins yeah I have no idea there's a range so
00:58:12
I'll accept any number yeah perfect well it's on average so average all right wouldn't average not have a range well
00:58:19
that's an average give me the middle standard deviation the median all right
00:58:25
[Applause] just flip it flip it flip it read them out
00:58:33
15 years very different answer one at a time read
00:58:39
them out okay okay I said six to nine weeks from a seed from a seed I bet that
00:58:45
has like I bet you I have no idea in nine weeks I bet you an apple tree is
00:58:50
like a piece of grass barely all right Andrew what'd you say I
00:58:56
said 15 years I said three years wow the answer is eight years eight years so
00:59:02
technically David was the closest let's go so David gets the points so did I say weeks I meant to write years
00:59:10
two nine years wait did you really need to say that or no you can't have a ring wait hold on this is what an apple tree
00:59:17
looks like I'm gonna say zero to a hundred years do I still get it
00:59:28
look I don't plant very many trees we can tell how long does it take for a
00:59:33
human person to create a baby from a well I know that next question okay when
00:59:39
was tweetbot initially released like what year yes I will accept year I will
00:59:45
accept date if you can get it uh two points if you get the date but I'll probably just take her as
00:59:50
closest foreign
00:59:58
take your time are we ready how are you feeling yeah confident not confident
01:00:03
um are we just guessing completely I have like a joke Andrew's like yep generally well I
01:00:10
guessed on and I thought of something and it confirms my guess if whether I'm
01:00:15
right about what I thought about is another question all right well read them out educated guess here I said June
01:00:21
2011. oh you did you all did once it is 2011.
01:00:27
it is 2011. oh wow I did October 2010 out of 2012. dang I was two months off
01:00:33
it was April 14th 2011. oh wow so Marquez got pretty close see I thought the guy said after 10 years more than 10
01:00:41
years he said more than 10 years that's where I was wrong wow all right yeah it was just I remember tweetbot it came to
01:00:48
iPhone first did you check their Tumblr
01:00:54
I feel good about that so I got a point so that's I'm tied with David I guess no
01:01:00
yes no because I got the last point you got the apple one it's Marquez for Andrew three David five all right noted
01:01:09
do we want a bonus question no I would like it if it's Tech related yes it is let's do a bonus question bonus question
01:01:15
oh my gosh because Ellis isn't here I'll use his question perfect so oh not now
01:01:21
let's question bonus question oh God it's an Ellis question oh no this is worth two points oh just because okay
01:01:27
the word pixel is a mashup of two other words what are they oops I don't want
01:01:33
the bonus question it is um pixel pixel
01:01:41
they're writing writing on their boards looking very confused David looks actually confident I'm a
01:01:47
little nervous
01:01:53
Andrew is putting down the marker Marquez is erasing
01:01:59
all right flipping boys wow that was so nice when you said all right with the
01:02:05
music oh yeah all right read them out uh wow I said
01:02:11
picture element that is correct what
01:02:18
Andrew what did you say so David I mean I was too embarrassed now wow I
01:02:27
said picture voxel still close but no picture elements Marquez with two points
01:02:33
holy smoke I guess that makes a lot of sense so it's an element of a picture yeah so I wrote like I wrote pics on the
01:02:39
top and oh on the bottom and I just guessed for each wow and that worked an
01:02:45
acronym that actually well it's not an acronym wow an amalgamation that actually makes I'm gonna have to fact
01:02:51
check this one but for now I'll take it please Marquez has six points Andrew has three David has five wow carve the
01:02:58
points of the stone that's crazy that's a great way to end this episode wait what is wx1000 Mark 5 stand for w
01:03:07
X or h x so X is the buds no f is the bug Bud X isn't a thing for the
01:03:15
headphones aren't they no h w h1000x M3s or the headphones
01:03:22
so it stands for one thousand I don't know what what does f stand for earbuds
01:03:28
why does f stand for earbuds in Sony land
01:03:33
I don't know I was gonna say frequency phone like an earphone Maybe
01:03:39
oh you don't know the answer no oh my God all right let's wrap it up that's
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