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have you ever seen something that's blue before remember we had that conversation about they don't make fun colors for
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things that are like the pro versions is this considered a pro version it's not
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but I look at that I'm like called the surface it is the first Surface Pro so it literally is the pro version I guess
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so yeah by name yeah I look at it I'm like I love that blue and then I'm like I would never buy that blue so you
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wouldn't buy this I understand why they don't make you wouldn't buy this I like it I I really like it it's very blue it
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matches your hat kind of there more blue not at all I mean they're both
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[Music] blue what is up people of the internet
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welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we are your host my name is Andrew and I'm David and Marquez
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is out he is out he is working on a really cool big project that don't think we're allowed to talk about yet he asked
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me to say it is a big video that you guys can see if you subscribe wao that's
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how you see video oh yeah subscribing yeah also happens on this
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channel by the way you can we just passed 400,000 that's right that means we're the big time Big Time we're
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basically we're bigger than Joe Rogan we're bigger than I'm taller than Joe
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Rogan really yeah he's really short actually yeah well good for him I guess
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good anyway we got uh quite a lot of things to talk about today there is it's
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the week week after wwc week every time there is a major Apple event nobody releases anything on that week because
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they would be competing for views and that doesn't work so we got a bunch of uh little stories coming in this week um
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like the threads API is finally launched Tik Tok just launched an Instagram competitor which is very ironic uh the
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Department of Justice is added again with the white Vans suing Adobe and
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YouTube is experimenting on a community notes feature that totally won't backfire great YouTube features are
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always fun to talk about on this show yes yes they are but first uh
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Microsoft's first co-pilot PCS are finally out we actually have them here you haven't noticed for the video
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viewers uh this is the new Surface Pro no longer it's not Surface Pro X I think
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it's just Surface Pro okay and that is the surface laptop 15 in 15 in it's
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funny because I'd been using a laptop very similar to this so yeah if somehow
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you didn't watch the video version of like the last 20 episodes and you came back to this you might just be like the
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laptop looks a little bigger but still the same yeah so these are the co-pilot plus PCS with the Qualcomm Snapdragon X
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Elite chipsets which are arm laptops it's another go at arm that Microsoft's trying out um but there was some drama
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with the recall feature which we previously talked about it got recalled it got recalled and then I think like a
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couple different things happened we talked about it when it was um opt out by the time that video launched or maybe
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even just that weekend I think it was the day of I think it was that Friday they changed it to being opt in Y which
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was great then people were still so mad about it now it is only going to be
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available for uh what's it called Windows insiders but it's not even available for them yet you will get a
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notification when it is available for you to test it which also all of that drama turned into all of these Microsoft
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review units coming a little later which is kind of why the launch date was the 18th which was yesterday for us and
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that's when everybody got their actual computers yeah so to catch you guys up uh if you didn't listen to previous episodes Microsoft recall was this
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feature that Microsoft is going to launch on all of these co-pilot plus PCS
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which is their new generation of what they call AI PCS and basically it tracks
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everything that you do every 5 seconds and takes a screenshot and then allows you to go back in time and ask the
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computer like what was I looking at on this day or where can I find this or what was that podcast I was looking at because it uses contextual large
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language models to then view that information uh some independent security
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researchers realized that everything was being stored in PL Tex which is just you know the most Classic this happens
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everybody all the time um so a lot of people got very upset about it like Andrew said rightfully so they moved it
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to needing to use like Windows hello to be able to access it and then eventually they're like let's just put this with
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the Insiders yeah so Windows insiders is like a beta version of Windows that you can manually opt into where you get the
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early features early but it's going to be a little more you know and they'll be able to test it out and essentially
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figure out some more flaws in it so hopefully by the time this launches it will be launched correctly yeah for us
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none of us to use yeah but anyway uh like Andrew said yesterday was embargo
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for all of these co-pilot plus PCS so technically there's no embargo on these we can talk about them Asus did seed a
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number of their VI books to a lot of uh people early Dave 2D has a video out
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that's pretty good there's a there's a window Central article out about it m um
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overall people are really liking these they have very good battery life because they're armp powerered um there are some
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apps that they can't run which is kind of annoying the translator I I don't really know if it's working completely
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correctly um but yeah good battery life their lower cost the the Asus Vivo book
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is $12.99 which is a pretty good price and they're mostly competing against the
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M3 chipsets okay so they're slightly better than M3 in most categories uh
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they're not going to beat the M3 Pro or the M3 Max but you know if you want a
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Windows laptop that is close to Performance to the highest end Apple Computers then they're finally out here
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yeah and we decided to open these up and set them up right before coming into this room right just so we could have a
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very very quick brief thoughts about some things we like or don't like about them but again these have been open for
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less than an hour so this is extr very raw thoughts my first thought and maybe
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this has been around for longer cuz I think my Surface laptop 13 in is
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probably 3 or four years old the trackpad click on this is the best track
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click I've ever felt in any laptop it is better than my MacBook Pro it is better than a lot of the XPS that we've had in
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here MH this is like pristine this is exactly what I want they updated to a similar technology as the MacBook where
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it's not actually clicking it's just giving you feedback it's fantastic and I think I tried it right before the
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episode and it is better than the MacBook it's better than the MacBook because it feels deeper than the MacBook when you look it it's just got all the
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feedback that I want to make sure I know I'm clicking and I know that has nothing to do with arm
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or co-pilot or any of the real things this computer is about but other than that this is beautiful one thing you
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pointed out is how the bottom edges are curved so now it's not flat screen on the screen um by the bezels that looks
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quality of life thing yeah Windows makes great looking and feeling laptops
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Microsoft Microsoft yes yeah well yeah no no no you're right I'm wrong 100% um
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and is running Windows 11 which I don't think I had on my previous one one so I'm excited to mess around on I'm in
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Edge right now also just saying wow I don't know lots of people like Edge May
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Edge for yeah that's true people dig Edge people dig Edge I don't use it but
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David you're the one that was saying that edge is pretty good edges you used it a couple months ago weren't you it has gotten more bloated since they've
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launched it um especially with all their their co-pilot stuff that they're trying to do it's like the AI browser it's like
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I mean I'm sure Chrome will unfortunately go that rout yeah everyone's going to go that route um they also made the surface laptop a
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little bit thicker too it definitely feels thicker it's hard to compare because I have the 13 inch the other one
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but it for sure seems thick yeah it's to help cool the the chip to make it have better performance so yeah so we're
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going to have to test these out we'll probably have U more thoughts later what do you think of we were messing around with the pen on the Surface Pro so this
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is the Surface Pro um they made a new keyboard case which is really cool that
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has a battery in it this time okay so you probably can't see that but here's the keyboard for the video viewers and
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here's the Surface Pro and it charges while it's hooked up to it and then you
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can separate from it and still use it and type in everything and that's really nice because if you're like at a coffee
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shop or something and or on a plane and you want to use the uh you want to use the tray table for the actual computer
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but have the keyboard in your lap something like that I think it's pretty cool so also had a really I think this
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is my favorite thing for that and I'm going to steal it from you for one second but I saw a picture of someone
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using it where they took the tablet oh they folded the stand almost all the way
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back so it had just a slight look and then what you can do is you can keep the
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keyboard to your side for shortcuts right if you're doing you have the the
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pad right in front of you to draw on so you can like be doing everything you do with your dominant hand and then your left hand can be here for save copy
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paste all that stuff and now that this is the battery it can be detached I think and it's not in your way because
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you usually like this close to you right right I like how you have DOTA on here already also I just this is my the
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number one thing that I use to test laptops is how much do I like playing DOTA on can I play DotA with a
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stylist yes um so yeah I mean I'm hoping the battery life is going to be good on
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these as well it's good on the Asus laptop but that just has a physically very large battery um so yeah we'll be
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testing those out over the next couple of weeks and we'll let you guys know my brows are closed so I need to probably
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my that was definitely my fault also the Surface Pro is now OLED which looks really good the surface laptop is not
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that's something that I got minorly wrong in our episode where we talked about it but it is 120 hertz always
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which is pretty awesome I do like that yeah so they're definitely catching up in a lot of categories and it's good to
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see but we'll have more thoughts later anyway let's get to our first story um
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threads officially launched its API so if you guys are old like us you
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may remember a day when Twitter had clients and you could download all of these different Twitter apps like Falcon
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and Phoenix and all of this stuff and uh it was just a way better experience were they all birds wasn't Flamingo one also
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I got Birds boy got Birds baby birds boy I know that's what Adam's going for uh
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yeah most I think they were mostly Birds oh I guess Twitter is a bird yeah right
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but did you just realize that yes well that's why I realized the connection
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right uh but eventually they just like stopped giving out API token access and
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they kind of switched to this model where you had to use the Twitter app which kind of sucked yeah Reddit did the
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same thing um it's been a slow demolishment of these third party
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apps turning into just you have to use the main app which sucks but threads just officially launched their API which
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means third parties can make apps which is very funny because it also means that
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you can make an iPad app for Threads whereas Instagram oh my goodness which
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does not have an open API uh you can't make a thirdparty app for that so um
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it's very nice that we're finally going to be able to see what a thirdparty client of threads could look like
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primarily the functions in the API are for insights about posts so they have
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access to like publishing and replying and all those things but um Adam aeri
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said it was specifically for apps like hoot site for people that want to just see multiple different threads Accounts
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at once or monitor the insights of different post that kind of stuff so it sounds like it's more Enterprise focused
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however that doesn't mean that people are not going to make interesting apps for it for sure and I still never use
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threads on web browser at all which is means I basically never used threads it's an app at all so yeah if that's
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better it's on the web I know it's on the we it's good on the web they actually just had a really big upate Rec
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uh yeah the algorithm in my opinion is terrible that's just my opinion uh I
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feel like it mostly just shows you viral content and not even necessarily content
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you're interested in there's a lot of people on threads that are just uh engagement farming all the time not the
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most fun experience but maybe if uh a third party app comes out that's better
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yeah I can't even blame it on threads that much cuz pretty much every social media platform is doing that and pushing
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the stuff that's popular and annoying sometimes and not like the personal fun
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niches that you find but yeah it does have the the following versus For You tab um and you can access that on web
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now right yes however you cannot default to following I don't think we will ever get that I think the compromise is
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Twitter just saying you can you can default The Following on Twitter and I only stay on the following tab on
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Twitter so they both have their good and bad things like uh Twitter pays you to
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engagement farm so that's a lot worse but uh yeah threads threads doesn't let
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you default to that which sucks because then every time you open it you're just on the for you page and then you get lost and then it's been half an hour and
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then you black out and wake up sounds like they're doing it you are the prime example of why that will never change
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exactly and that's why I open it a lot less often mhm so do you know if the API will allow Bots to autop post kind of
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thing ye I believe so because all I want are like those interesting Twitter Bots
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that like you know how every Friday it's like ladies and gentlemen the weekend the weekend or there's the um the like year
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percentage um like the loading bar yeah yeah I believe that it will allow for
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that so those are fun and yeah I forgot that those kind of all got screwed over
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and aren't available anymore yeah and what kind of one of the things that made Twitter fun yeah and there's a lot of
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very useful bots on Twitter that kind of disappeared as well um I'm surprised
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actually there this is a very New York Central thing but there's the New York alternate side parking account oh my God
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it saved me so many tickets which will tell you if you have to move your car if you don't have to move your car it's like side alternate side parking is in
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effect so you need to move your car today oh yeah whereas if it's a holiday or like there's a special federal
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holiday that you didn't know about then it says there is no alternate side parking this uh in effect today so you
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don't have to move your car ask a dumb question that's what is alternate side parking oh that Mak good question so in
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New York City they do street sweeping okay so it's alternating which side of the street you're allowed to park on
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right okay so in my neighborhood um you can't park on the left side of the street it's between certain hours too so
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it's from like 8:30 a.m. to 10:30 a.m. on the left side of the street on Mondays and Thursdays and then on the
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right side of the street it's Tuesdays and Fridays and then one street over it's 10:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. so you have
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to like develop this algorithm in your head as to like when can I park here and how can I park here and Tuesday nights
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are the best because there's no street sweeping on Wednesdays anyway nobody needs to know about this sorry which is
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why that bot was so helpful which is why which and it's still they still post on it which is surprising to me oh on
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Twitter on Twitter wonder if do that manually probably interesting yeah anyway uh moving on social media to
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social media social media to social media bite dance just launched an Instagram competitor I waited to click
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this because I didn't want to see what it looked like until the Pod do they show any good examples of yeah it looks
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exactly like does it Instagram basically it it's a very cut down version of
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Instagram yeah yeah so it's called Wii which is a very strange name for an app
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it's available in 12 countries not in the United States however you might be able to find an APK just saying uh and
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it's a very very cut down version of Instagram that it says is for friends
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only so it's kind of like if Instagram and Facebook which is ironic had a baby
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where you have to friend request people and then when you're friends that's when you see each other's content I mean that
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feels like what Instagram used to be or what and even at this point Facebook used to be I mean Instagram was like
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that similarly also it was like you were friends with each other there weren't a ton of these like public publicly facing
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profiles like I used to only use Instagram as people I knew in person and
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I still think I guess most people now that have private ones are still following plenty of Public Accounts and that sounds like that's not what's going
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to happen here um but yeah cut down is one way of describing this this almost feels like like when web pages make
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mobile versions and cut down everything this looks like it did that except that the original source file of Instagram
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was already a mobile thing and then they like made it more mobile AKA just like got rid of way more like margins and uh
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lines essentially it's like bubbles of everything there's only three tabs at the bottom there's a messaging tab there
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is a take a photo and post it Tab and then there's a look at your other friends post tab is that what that is
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that's like the sparkle Sparkle Emoji i we don't have to get into that but uh
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yeah it's it's very simplistic I think they're just sort of testing it to see if people are interested in it that's
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why they're doing a soft launch in just a few countries it's Instagram with squirel yeah everything everything is a
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squirkle basically like everything in the entire app so I'm actually I'm very
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glad that this is a first order relationships based app where you have to mutually agree to follow each other
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because if it was a public facing account based app everyone would be flooding it to try to like get as big as
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possible CU that's what always happens there's a new social media platform that opens up and people just flood it to get their username and then they also just
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try to get as big as possible as fast as possible because if it does take off then all of a sudden you're the biggest
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one on Wii or whatever it's like social media investing yeah pretty much um do
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you know if the two parties need to follow each other before they can start seeing things or is it like a oneway I
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believe that's how it how it works I need to download it uh the APK and try it out but one of the screenshots shows
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friend requests similar to like when two private accounts on Instagram follow
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each other I would follow you and you would get a thing that says I followed you but you have to like accept it
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follow back or whatever that's what it kind of feels like which look I don't want to wax about how the golden days of
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Facebook were so golden however uh I do think that social media when you
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mutually when you already know each other in real life is a lot healthier than this like I have no idea who you
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are so I'm going to scream at you on the internet and there have been multiple phases of social media there was first level where you know each other in real
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life there's second level where you can follow anyone um but you're not but you only
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see the content of the people that you follow which means you are also less likely to just scream at them and tell
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them to kill themselves or whatever and then third don't do that ever don't do that but third level is like algorithmic
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timelines you just get fed random stuff from random people and you have no connection to them whatsoever and it's
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just all awful I might be showing my age here a little bit but do you remember
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that Facebook when you communicated with other people it wasn't thread-based it
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was only wall based so if I was going to be posting something on your wall I would say like hey David what's up and
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for you to reply to me you had to come to my wall and say everything's great and there's zero connection between them
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at all like that's how the conversation was based in the really early days in the really early days then I
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believe I forget if it was before they started letting you reply in Threads they did make a thing where you could
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click a button and it could show all the communications you had between each other in somewhat of a dashboard but
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then it came into this more like I can actually keep things yeah spoken together I remember seeing notifications
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of like Andrew posted on David's wall and it would just show your like conversation yeah it was very AB there was not like
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the story based or the like bringing in other things and what's happening on other people's accounts it was very much
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like I purposefully wanted to show you something or say something to you so I went to yours and you had to come back
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to mine I just think social media where it's just a digital version of your real life is just going to be way healthier
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in every way because what if imagine you're on Facebook and you I don't even know what Facebook looks like right now
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because I haven't really been on there in like 10 years but the old version of Facebook I'm I don't want to interrupt
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but my version of Facebook for some reason is off the rails right now and it's just crazy patriotic AI images of
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like why won't this ever Trend and like a semi-truck with like a 100 Marines
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carrying Flags driving down a a highway that's so obviously AI because none of
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the words make sense there's cars driving the wrong way down the road and no tractor trailer can carry people on
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the back of it holding Flags sorry that's what I'm getting served on Facebook lately so you get served thing
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because that that's that's the question I have is like I have not been on Facebook since you just interacted with your friends yeah you get served
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randomic stuff now yeah yeah and a lot of it is just like all of those are just
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accounts that are pages that are trying to bring in as much content as
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possible okay that and a lot of them are like all the sports ones like it's like the lowest level of sports journalism
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possible where rather than just being like the Devils might be interested in a trade with the Maple Leafs it's just
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like where is the devil's $68 million Winger going to head to next and it's
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probably like 50 ads in the the website that you click on so I derailed that I'm sorry that's fine I I just I feel like
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that that early form of Facebook was probably the most healthy the early form of Twitter before they added algorithmic
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stuff was probably the most fun because I love interacting with people that I like appreciate on the internet and
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having them be able to reply back like that's the magic of was the magic of Twitter M this third level like
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everything is algorithmic just get fed cuz imagine you were on Facebook in 2009 imagine posting like I grew my business
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from this to this here's three things I learned what are your friends going to say to you what is your mom GNA say to
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you yeah like you just wouldn't do that so great job sweetie yeah exactly but
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this is funny that now coming back to it that Tik talk the I know there are a lot of people who use it as just like
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friends but generally all accounts on Tik Tok are public no I'm there probably are some sort of
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private versions but like yeah I you can set an account private but everything you see on the feed I believe is Tik Tok
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to me just has always felt like less of a point-to-point communication and more of a throwing things out into the world
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yeah I I'm sure I'm semi- wrong about that but now creating this more AB
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friendto friend communication point is kind of cool it's also really funny that in Instagram created reals because of
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Tik Tok and now Tik tok's like well you can play this game let's just make Instagram also that is that is the irony
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the funny thing is they actually did make something similar called Tik Tok notes a few months ago that is a lot
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more like actual Instagram and then this is a lot more just like early Facebook
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SL like a early early early early Instagram so Instagram before stole from
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Snapchat and stole from Tik Tok and took from everything else I think everyone right now thinks that there's a hole in the market for more peer-to-peer like
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people I know in the real world based communication that's why Boll got popular for a while but then Instagram
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just added a b real feature which eliminated the entire point you know I'll throw it out there I like I use
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Snapchat again as like what old Snapchat is of just like I quickly want to send Claire a picture of lane or something
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like that I feel like I'm slowly getting back into Snapchat with some some old friends of just very quick
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Communications with photos I like it Tim does send me a lot of snap really yeah
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he sent me a one in Colorado of someone climbing a mountain with no rope oh oh that's crazy I was like I don't want to
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look any further than this if she falls but it's interesting because Snapchat is a thing that was very early like a long
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time ago as well and they their core feature is still mostly the same they started making most of their money
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through the like uh through the discover stuff and the videos and whatever but if you just send people snaps it's
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basically the same feature as when it launched yeah agreed so I think that's why they have a huge ad campaign right
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now that's running all throughout Brooklyn that's yeah it's it's like less social media more Snapchat and I'm like
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okay it's still kind of social media but yeah uh yeah we'll see if this Tik Tock
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we app ever ends up making it to the United States or we will see but uh
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until then I think we need to throw it to trivia [Music]
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trivia okay trivia dude so Ellis is sick so he is not here this is a this room
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feels very empty right now if there's like gaps in the talking it's probably
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because we have three instead of five people but he did want me to clarify that he is sick as so he sent in a
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question for you guys that he is sick of you losers these are going to be Marquez
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base question questions because he is not here so is Marquez a sausage
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McMuffin person or an Egg McMuffin person figure it out I feel like I have
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a I have a clue a thought he mentioned this in a studio video once he did yeah
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yes wow I it was an it was an Apple event Ellis was found him at like the
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courtyard outside of our hotel sat down asked him the question corre inter I remember that you remember the answer
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interesting I think I do but I think I remember it just cuz I've been to McDonald's breakfast with Marquez so many times it's usually that or
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Starbucks that we go to on trips or have been to on trips well figure that out
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of Justice dropped another bombshell we got a lot of lawsuits coming out this year and the Department of Justice is
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now officially suing Adobe which for often Premier crashes yes finally I wish
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I could sue Adobe for how often premere crashes um but yeah they're actually suing them because the there are very
00:30:08
hidden early termination fees when you sign up for Adobe Creative Cloud the main complaint is that they advertise
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their most popular plan which is technically a yearly plan but they show
00:30:21
you the monthly cost to have the yearly plan yeah so the weird thing is that
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you're basically signing a contract that says I will pay monthly for 12 months and if I want to cancel anytime within
00:30:33
those 12 months the termination fee is 50% of the amount of months that you have left and it sounds like the the
00:30:40
confusing thing here is is like it's not uncommon for companies to offer Cheaper by month if you commit I mean my like my
00:30:48
Climbing Gym if I pay each and every month it is like maybe $35 but if I just
00:30:54
pay for the entire year it winds up being like $30 a month right sounds like at Adobe is when you get to that screen
00:31:00
it's just like first thing pre-selected x amount of money monthly but in the
00:31:05
terms in conditions that's agreeing to a year and has these termination fees which that people don't know about like
00:31:11
your gym membership thing uh there was a Climbing gym that I used to go to that you could pay for a year but you would just pay for the year all at once yeah
00:31:18
that's yeah you didn't pay monthly but you were committing to a year it's just a it's a very weird thing so like for
00:31:25
this with Adobe if I canceled after 6 months mons how much would I have to pay you would ow three months cuz it's 50%
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of the remaining yeah because there's six months left and you're going to pay half of what the remaining is um it did
00:31:38
say on here just to be clear after the first year I think then you can cancel after any month and not hit that but
00:31:44
still yeah a first year is when they're going to is when someone's going to make the decision un usually if they want to
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or don't want to use a product anymore and in that case the cancelling like
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most people will probably see like wolf I'm going to pay half already as well just finish this out and then for that's
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a huge win and then you probably forget that You' been paying for it and then keep paying for it yeah that's what a
00:32:06
lot of apps do even Adobe will be like well we'll give you a free month if you stay with us and then you do and then
00:32:11
you completely forget that you're paying for it and it just kind of goes into the slip hole so sounds like you've done
00:32:16
that before uh not me it couldn't be me yeah but it's it's interesting because
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the Department of Justice is suing Adobe but they're also implicating two top Executives at the company who they say
00:32:27
were basically in charge of making this pricing plan work um and it does it does
00:32:33
seem very bad for consumers I've heard this complaint from people constantly over the last number of months you hear
00:32:40
people complain about Adobe no way never would have guessed but specifically
00:32:45
about their very confusing structure I mean their structure is confusing in a lot of different ways like they do have
00:32:51
a lot of different well first of all it's super expensive now it's just monthly like it's only subscription
00:32:56
based which everyone loves subscription based programs it's very annoying that's why final final clutch just a one time
00:33:03
fee right well if you get the labtop version the iPad version is $5 a month I
00:33:09
feel like the laptop version or like the general desktop version is we're not that far off from that being straight
00:33:15
subscription yeah if they because they already made Final Cut two for iPad but
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if they make Final Cut two for laptop for desktop and they may they're I could
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see them making it part of apple one or something like that for sure yeah there's also all sorts of different
00:33:31
student prices I'm I would not be surprised if over the last 20 years
00:33:36
Photoshop is probably one of the most pirated software programs out there I think there's a lot of people I wouldn't
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know who who learned a lot about computers learning how to crack an Adobe
00:33:47
Photoshop uh software program right um and there's a reason why because they're super annoying with their prices and all
00:33:54
of this stuff yeah a lot of people that I know will pay for the plan because they like the integration between the
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apps sure so like if you a lot of people use Premiere because it links to After Effects so when you're making things in
00:34:06
After Effects you can just hit save and it automatically updates in Premiere and that's the main reason that I know a lot
00:34:12
of people use Premiere just saying um resolve from Da Vinci is
00:34:17
free you could use that uh Final Cut if you're on a Mac is $300 once Premiere
00:34:23
also works with audition though yeah I'm saying this as a Prem premere user who who has the opportunity to switch to
00:34:30
Final Cut and I've just been in premiere for so long I I still love I like Adobe suet I just there's a lot of things
00:34:37
about Adobe that I used Premier for like 10 years and I like Premiere better but it was just so unstable so consistently
00:34:43
and people have told me recently that it's crashing less but yeah I don't get it quite as often um and Mariah is a
00:34:51
huge Premier proponent she says like a lot of the coloring and a lot of the different stuff that's available in it
00:34:56
is just better fin lacking a lot in a lot of ways that honestly I think the
00:35:01
main reason that we tend to use final Cod around here is that it autosaves literally every single time you do
00:35:08
anything so it it does not crash and freeze that often when it does you can just close it when you reopen it you're
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exactly where you left off where I had so many times in Premiere where I'd work for half an hour it would crash and then
00:35:21
I would just lose everything and there wouldn't be an autosave I feel there definitely is an aut Auto frequency I
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remember a long time ago just like muscle memory just like command or
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controls on like a like an inner timer in my head like every two minutes like I'm not even I like watch back the clips
00:35:40
she's like cool control us and then the little loading bar comes up yep yeah so
00:35:45
at least once a week I hear Mariah say ah this would be so easy on a Premiere and then she finishes exporting
00:35:51
and gets to leave at 5:00 instead of 7:00 when it takes to finish that's true that's true um but I think the wildest
00:35:57
thing about this is the fact that they're specifically targeting two Executives who they said um You There It
00:36:04
also says in here that customer service Representatives would intentionally drop or disconnect calls everyone knows
00:36:10
that's what they're alleging alleging sorry but like calling customer support it takes so long to finally talk
00:36:17
to someone and then you finally get to maybe a point in where something's happening and if that disconnects the
00:36:23
last thing you want to do is restart that process CU if you didn't get some sort of uh like reference number that
00:36:29
you can bring back and just get back into the call half the time that doesn't help or doesn't let you skip any line
00:36:34
mhm I would probably give up also yep so the fact that there's allegedly uh
00:36:41
intentionally doing that which wouldn't surprise me is crazy yeah um what is this some users report that while trying
00:36:47
to cancel they were put into software Loops that would not let them cancel that I'm not surprised about I've had that in multiple different I've tried to
00:36:53
cancel like Verizon FiOS and doing that it's like what's your new address and I type it in it's like we can't find that
00:37:00
and then all of a sudden I'm gone from the cancelling page and so all of this sounds very much around a lot of
00:37:06
different software and Tech things in general uh yeah Adobe is just way too big in the creative space though like we
00:37:13
need competitors that are actually going to be able to stand up to them um they
00:37:18
recently had their figma acquisition blocked which I think was a good thing because then they they would just have
00:37:24
no competition whatsoever um so yeah we'll see where the where this goes there's a lot of lot of big Tech lates
00:37:30
happening right now like a lot of them which is great it is good it needs to be
00:37:36
they need to all be checked they all these big tech companies need a reality check every once in a while and may
00:37:43
whether all the things happen that we wanted to them at least thinking there are potential consequences for stuff
00:37:48
this is an absurd like almost no way of seeing that you're just going to get this Phantom charge later for cancelling
00:37:56
is pretty wild but you're talking about um Alternatives Adam you just started using pixel Mater pixel Mater what do
00:38:02
you think of it so far I really like it it's what Brandon uses so for as long as I've started here actually I don't think I've ever seen phot he's always used
00:38:09
pixel meter um and it's a little different like the UI and everything about it is not what I'm used to with
00:38:17
Photoshop but once you learn where everything is it kind of does all the same things so I was working in it this
00:38:23
morning because I try to like I I've seen Brandon use it very seamlessly and he makes beautiful thumbnails with it
00:38:30
and I'm like I feel like I should learn how to use this just in case like Brandon her Tim is like indisposed and I need to make a thumbnail for something
00:38:36
like waveform related or personal yeah um so it's like an easy tolearn software
00:38:42
in that sense but it's a standalone software as well so I don't I also think it's Mac only I believe is it I think so
00:38:50
I don't think it's on Windows or anything else its layout in general looks like it would want to be on like
00:38:56
an iPad or something like that it's very basic with lots of Sliders and panels on
00:39:02
the side where like I think Photoshop thrives in knowing shortcuts and knowing
00:39:08
tools stuff like that where toolbars are so little because most of the people using it are so just like efficient in
00:39:15
it already yeah yeah it's Apple Apple's only I want Tim to now do a video of
00:39:20
like testing Adobe Alternatives as someone who's learned hiside I would
00:39:25
love that but I will say I don't think it's it'll be as hard for him as you think it is like this morning when I was working on a thumbnail he just walked
00:39:31
over was like What if you do this and like press three things and intuitively knew where it would be good I want I
00:39:38
would rather him go into be like oh this is easy maybe you don't need a yearlong
00:39:44
uncan Adobe subscription if you're getting into it he learned it from school and has use it forever I doubt
00:39:49
he'll ever change but him showing how powerful they could be could totally do our graphic designer test Adobe
00:39:56
alternatives that would probably be a great video that Beck all right moving
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on uh YouTube is experimenting with a community notes es feature called notes
00:40:07
which is totally not going to backfire totally not and I'm still excited for this kind of so for those who don't know
00:40:13
what community notes on Twitter X are um they're they're it actually is a kind of
00:40:19
good feature uh it's very funny when they get posted because often they get posted on advertisements yes which I not
00:40:27
sure why Twitter wants to do that because it just completely destroys their ad Revenue but considering how
00:40:33
many terrible yeah like Drop Shipping ads there are on Twitter right now it's
00:40:39
very funny when these notes get posted it is really good for the actual consumer because it's so much harder to
00:40:44
get tricked into some half of them at this point aren't even Drop Shipping most of the community notes are like you
00:40:50
will pay and this website will disappear in like a month and you will not you've just lost your money you don't even get
00:40:55
the cheap garbage you just overpaid or you just straight get scammed so that's great it is tough for Twitter because
00:41:01
why would you want to pay them to just get exposed but um yeah Community notes on Twitter are
00:41:07
great because it does help sometimes it obviously can be abused and like it can be abused by
00:41:14
basically Brute Force um if enough people want to screw with something they can screw with it and maybe it gets
00:41:20
changed later but um it it does help with misinformation or things that are wrong and like that is obviously on
00:41:28
YouTube as well right uh yeah it's a little weirder on YouTube um yeah now
00:41:33
obviously YouTube has a lot of guard rails to make sure that people don't just come in and start just like saying
00:41:39
things uh because oftentimes people will go in YouTube comments and just be like you're wrong it's actually this and
00:41:44
they're totally wrong and it's just ridiculous um but the way this is going
00:41:50
to work and it's just a test for now it's not actually rolled out this is kind of the way that YouTube does things as it just slowly tests things users
00:41:57
with active YouTube channels in good standing will be able to write notes about a video on a video to clarify
00:42:05
certain things about the video this then gets passed to thirdparty evaluators who
00:42:10
will rate whether they find the notes useful if they do they might appear under the video um and then YouTube has
00:42:17
an algorithm where if a significant number of people who previously rated notes differently now rate a note as
00:42:24
helpful it will be more likely to show that note so for example if you are rating a bunch of notes and a lot of
00:42:30
them are just people trying to mess with the video and you say this is not helpful this is not helpful and then you say one is helpful it's more likely to
00:42:38
show that note under the video because there's a higher likelihood that it's an actually good note okay that makes sense
00:42:44
so I feel like these notes are probably going to be more helpful for like videos
00:42:50
that come out from politicians or you know different organizations maybe um
00:42:58
maybe Brands yeah yeah I honestly see this and one thing I think would be cool
00:43:03
in there is you say so it goes Community note gets created gets sent to third
00:43:09
party whatever that means whether it's users I think it's users willing to go into that it should first go straight to
00:43:15
the P the channel That published it because like let's take our ours for example like yeah we go through so many
00:43:21
things there's small things we get wrong randomly if there was just a note that said hey the the iPhone rails are
00:43:28
titanium not aluminum like you said it this is the community note and Marquez just looked at and went oh yeah that is
00:43:34
right and just clicked okay then we know that's right and it can go there and it could stop that I think the the
00:43:40
potential of this is cool because this is going to sound like a hot take but I miss annotations that's not a hot take
00:43:47
bro okay really I want who doesn't miss annotations okay the people who don't miss annotations and the reason they're
00:43:52
gone is because of people who abuse the hell out of them like the invisible one so when you and try and pause the video
00:43:58
you go to some random link or whatever or you click on a video and there's 20 of them filling the whole screen that's
00:44:04
stunk I think channels in good standings should be able to put annotations on videos because agree there's not a lot
00:44:11
of things you can do to a video that's already published if there is a small mistake in there um so being able to put
00:44:17
a little note like it's basically like when you throw up like an asterisk like
00:44:22
reclaiming something you said out loud because you can't go back and edit it that be awesome in a community note
00:44:28
where we could say on our podcast two weeks ago we could say Hey by the time
00:44:33
this came out recall is now opt out or opt in instead of opt out edting the
00:44:39
video after it's been edited yeah because people that write articles can just edit the article and then say a
00:44:45
previous version of this article said XYZ but we can't do that with video with an hour long podcast that takes two plus
00:44:52
days to fully post production and everything and publish so that would be awesome and being able to have an
00:44:58
audience go through that and us be able to approve it and be like oh yeah enough people said this that could get thrown
00:45:04
in there and approve that would be cool yeah the abusing part is where multiple users come in and do stuff like that
00:45:10
that's why they're going to be sent to third party people to say whether or not they're actually useful yes so I'm sure
00:45:16
that they're thinking about this very deeply I don't think they're just going to like ship it and like chaos rain but
00:45:22
um but that's the thing and this is the thing we talk about all the time is they can think about it as hard as possible
00:45:28
they can do all of their internal testing everything can seem perfect and it will be out in the real world for 30
00:45:34
minutes and something absurd is going to happen to it and it is going to be the Verge headline for a week and stuff's
00:45:42
going to get messed up and then they'll have to go back and fix it or it will re true chaos for a while which might be
00:45:49
funny yeah in this test they're only giving it to a limited number of people to test out um so we're going to see how
00:45:56
that goes and then basically said if it works out and people like it they're going to then determine whether or not
00:46:02
it's actually worth rolling out so I'm my final thoughts on this I'm excited
00:46:08
and I think there's a lot of good potential that could come out of this for very basic like essentially
00:46:16
asterisks onto minor fixes because like we're pretty quick but
00:46:21
imagine those people who take months to make a video and then they just want to put one
00:46:28
amount they've done and how easy they could just thatle fix because of that and it happens to the of us all the time
00:46:35
all the time it's especially when you have a video that's like 30 to 45 minutes long you're going to get like
00:46:40
small things on yeah for sure and the way that I amend those things right now is just like either tagging a comment or
00:46:45
putting in the description usually pinning a comment um but it would be easier like I do miss annotations a lot
00:46:52
yeah I miss annotations a ton because people watching things are on their phone in full screen you don't see comments they're their Smart TV you
00:46:57
don't see comments if if it's a physical video thing inside of it yeah great which Speaking of smart TVs really
00:47:04
quickly yeah um I have recently been watching YouTube on my projector okay
00:47:09
and on the Android TV YouTube app you have all the settings that you have on the phone app except there's no playback
00:47:16
speed function and I watch everything at 2X and I can't do that on my projector
00:47:23
so annoying I there's something so much funnier about 2x playback on like the TV
00:47:29
in your living room like I'm just imagining Claire walking into me like watching a disc golf video at 2x speed
00:47:37
for some reason and just being like I don't want to any part and like walking away I don't know why that's different I
00:47:42
don't know if my Samsung TV there's definitely settings it must I think it
00:47:48
does yeah I didn't think I was able to either on my TCL Roku TV and I didn't know it was an option and they either
00:47:53
just added it or it's been there all along and I just couldn't find it but it was in settings can you um I don't think
00:47:59
it's on my Android TV app but if you have the Android TV app can you cast to like to the projector with through that
00:48:07
on your phone and set it on your phone I'll try that I don't think you can control playback when you're casting
00:48:12
like playback speed what if you can what if you change it first and then cast I don't know I haven't tried it I'll try
00:48:17
it tonight I'll try that I'll try it tonight report back I will anyway we should take it to
00:48:24
trivia trivia this computer has touchcreen I've missed that on my MacBook it's so nice I barely
00:48:31
use it before the podcast just like easily being able to scroll through our notes yeah touch screens are nice it is
00:48:37
pretty nice all right next question we all know that Marquez plays professional
00:48:42
Ultimate Frisbee on the New York Empire website it has a few fun facts about him
00:48:48
like the fact that he's 63 he plays the position of cutter which I didn't know was a position until just now is that a
00:48:54
country cutter I I don't know how to respond to
00:48:59
that just continue and his birthday but according to this website what is his
00:49:06
nickname wait is a nickname yes he does oh Andrew stump nice I'm glad huh
00:49:13
interesting I played ultimate with Marquez for a very long time I've known him for a very long time I feel like I
00:49:19
did not know this every team I've played on him with he did not have a nickname this website states that he has a
00:49:25
nickname what is is it all right we'll figure that out after the
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o.com welcome back we are going to talk about the brand new phone one but not
00:53:01
the phone one you're thinking of no not that phone one the phone one we're talking about the phone one oh the phone
00:53:07
one no parenthesis oh phone one oh the phone one yep by cmf baby oh wow by cmf
00:53:14
by Nothing by nothing it's not the nothing phone one it's the cmf phone one it's the cmf by
00:53:21
nothing phone one the cmf by nothing that's actually their brand name on Twitter that's very funny cmf by nothing
00:53:28
anyway uh cmf is launching a new phone called the phone one which not to be
00:53:34
confused with the nothing phone one it has no parentheses so that's how you know the difference um on July 8th
00:53:41
they're going to be talking a lot more about it they're also going to be releasing the second generation of the
00:53:47
cmf watch and the cmf earbuds okay now if you remember correctly the cmf watch
00:53:53
is basically a wh labeled Alibaba watch um because you could basically go on
00:53:59
Amazon and search Smartwatch and it looked pretty much exactly the same and
00:54:04
if you're really not up to date cmf is essentially the would you I'd call it
00:54:10
the budget version or the budget company that nothing created which is very funny
00:54:16
because nothing was kind of felt like the old budget OnePlus stuff which
00:54:21
OnePlus was the budget yeah Android phone so here we are yeah here we are we're back three generations later
00:54:28
essentially yeah um but what's very interesting and the reason I think this is so intriguing the teaser photo of this
00:54:37
is bright orange very similar to like the rabbit teenage engineering orange
00:54:43
and has a knob on it yeah there's a knob I don't know it's at the corner of the device I can't tell you which corner
00:54:49
because it zoomed in a bit far it also looks like it has kind of like a leathery that leather texture letherette
00:54:54
M yeah I'm intrigued um yeah I mean some might say
00:55:01
we like knobs here we like knobs don't take that play it I don't have it on here wow it wasn't voted on
00:55:08
it wasn't voted on yeah the Tweet says introducing cmf phone one Wonderful by
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Design leveraging nothing's Innovation and meticulous attention to design it serves as a wonderful entry point for an
00:55:20
entire product ecosystem as others overlook this category we're giving it our full attention coming soon
00:55:27
so yeah I'm wondering what a budget phone by the company that makes
00:55:32
extremely cheap watches and earbuds is going to look like yeah price as well
00:55:37
what the price will be what it'll look like how it will perform so this is always I I'm excited to see what this
00:55:43
knob does because a really well-built knob is like fantastic like right it is
00:55:50
this is going to be impossible for I'm sorry UK fans this is a tough one but um
00:55:55
this my issue with like I don't want to initially call this a gimmick but when I think about like unique design choices
00:56:03
especially Hardware wise that we're seeing for the first time on budget phones is always like the all right
00:56:09
you're already making sacrifices to Performance for a budget phone now you're obviously spending dollar
00:56:15
manufacturing dollars on something that's not normal how much more performance sacrifices are we taking on
00:56:21
that because we want to add a knob to a phone that's probably what would you guess 200 to
00:56:26
probably around that yeah um there are actually some other photos that they teased on Twitter so one of the photos
00:56:34
is part of the phone with like a little screw and then they also shipped a few
00:56:40
people like little mini screwdrivers so I imagine it's going to be like very easy to take apart if it's
00:56:48
a phone that has a replaceable battery that would be epic awesome bringing it
00:56:53
back um that would be one way to get it around mediocre battery performance is
00:56:59
the initial cost would still be what it is but if you could buy a replacement battery that would be really cool and
00:57:05
then could help that performance yeah I think that they all use the same sort of like knob their design language is very
00:57:13
consistent throughout which is very I mean all the all the buds and stuff look pretty cool neck band and the buds both
00:57:20
have an have a wheel this video sorry for my volume um the left side of it I think is the phone and the right side of
00:57:26
it is the buds because that looks like just a black version of the orange one that we saw um but other than that it's
00:57:33
still doesn't help us much more on what side it's on yeah what would the knob do
00:57:39
I mean maybe volum cool if it was volume oh I would love it I'm so hyped on this
00:57:45
I'm just curious instead of a volume rocker but let's take guesses on where we think this is
00:57:52
because top or bottom of the phone bottom bottom bottom yeah because then you can put the phone upside down in
00:57:58
your pocket and you can just like reach in and kind of like twiddle it with your thumb if I'm holding my phone though how
00:58:03
am I accessing it's in your pocket that makes sense holding it normally it's
00:58:08
either down here by my pinky on the bottom left side which feels really awkward to do or I have to slide my
00:58:14
thumb all the way down I almost feel like top top right would make the most sense with my th you may right as a
00:58:20
righty unfort lefties you're not going to have a fun time actually no right could be left right finger would work
00:58:26
also I think the top I will say I am very excited about this mostly because like the nothing phone for example was
00:58:33
basically a totally normal phone that just had like lights and the software was a little bit different but seeing a
00:58:41
normal-ish phone that has some interesting Hardware quirks I think is more fun I love Hardware quirks yes
00:58:48
because that puts us back in the days of Android where every single Android phone that came out had like a weird Hardware
00:58:53
Quirk and that was always very interesting now all phones are the same exact square boxes uh so seeing a little
00:59:01
bit different some of them fold excited some fold yeah but if this is like 300 bucks that's going to be really cool
00:59:08
yeah as long as it performs well which I kind of think it'll be fine I bet for the majority of the people looking in
00:59:14
this price range it will perform fine and if you have a cool unique Hardware Quirk plus and let's be the orange color
00:59:22
that cmf uses is fantastic like wonderful so yeah that could be awesome
00:59:28
the black also looks nice it looks like it's a nice like matte texture so this
00:59:34
comes to the us though uh zero yeah um but I'm sure we'll have a chance to test
00:59:39
it out at some point um I do think the kind of faux leather while it's not my favorite yeah it's almost positive this
00:59:46
won't be a glass back but if you're going to do some sort of a cheaper plastic back adding a faux leather to it can make it feel way more premium for a
00:59:53
far cheaper price it's a leather that's something that they used to put on a lot of uh film cameras a lot yeah yeah I
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think it looks nice feels nice and again more premium cheaper price right I like it so I should clarify uh it's not
01:00:07
necessarily coming out on July 8th they just have a community update on July 8th where they're going to talk about it um
01:00:13
I still think phone one is a terrible name for for this but you know it's also funny because the Tweet they have says
01:00:19
buds Pro 2 and watch Pro 2 join phone one in the new cmf it's just why can't
01:00:24
companies just line up all of their numbers it's like yeah it has to always be off yeah always anyway that'll be fun
01:00:32
and interesting um we got one more little thing yes I wanted to talk about the new beat solo Buds and when I asked
01:00:39
you to about it you had both seen that these were announced but you hadn't seen what the kind of defining feature of it
01:00:46
is um so I wanted to see what your guys thoughts were okay on the PO um so Beach
01:00:52
just released their first pair of truly wireless earbuds that are under1 they are
01:00:57
$79.99 um they're they look just like beachly wireless earbuds they're red the
01:01:03
pack is very small and it is translucent and the earbuds themselves are opaque
01:01:09
what they did differently and the sacrifice that they made is the buds themselves have 18 hours of battery life
01:01:16
but there is no battery inside of the case so now you can't just put them in the case to charge the case is just to
01:01:23
hold them and to connect the USBC for to charge to charge but there usually when
01:01:29
we see earbuds with like 20 hours of battery life it's like 4 to 5 hours of battery life in the earbuds themselves
01:01:35
and then you top them off in the case so this is changing it up by adding more battery life to the earbuds themselves
01:01:42
but you aren't going to have the case that follows you around and how long is the standard battery life they said 18
01:01:48
hours 18 that sounds considering most earbuds are around that with the case
01:01:54
battery I like that a lot yeah because I'll be like on a plane and I'll have my
01:01:59
earbuds in the entire time and I'll die and then sometimes you have to be like all right well now I'm going to do take
01:02:05
a nap because and I'm taking the nap because I need my batter my earbuds to charge for an hour well at least you
01:02:10
only have to put the buds in the case for like five minutes usually to have them charge like most of the way but
01:02:16
that's a very interesting idea the funny thing is the case um it is definitely a lot smaller than all the other beats
01:02:22
cases it's still not necessarily smaller than other earbuds in general um but I don't know it's interesting
01:02:29
like I would love if they would do both that'd be epic that would be 40 hours of B life well they should offer a bigger
01:02:36
version bigger case yeah well there are some like anchor earbuds that will last a long time I don't about 40 hours but
01:02:43
yeah pretty decently long time but if you have 18 hour battery life in the buds and then another 16 hours of charge
01:02:50
inside of it that's wild you barely have to charge them like ever um but I think
01:02:56
I think I would 100% sacrifice I down to pay less money 80 bucks is a great price
01:03:01
for this um I actually really like a lot of Beats truly wireless earbuds I think the Beats fit Pro fit in my ears very
01:03:08
well their case is way too big but that's because it also has the wing tips and I like the physical button on the outside I don't this doesn't look like
01:03:16
it has a physical push button probably a Taps it might like a tap pad on the side
01:03:22
of it um but these are way smaller and 80 bucks is awesome and yeah 18 hours of battery life sounds great I haven't seen
01:03:30
The Verge posted about it and they got sent a review unit so they haven't got to do a full battery test yet but oh if
01:03:36
it's close to 18 hours yeah yeah that's pretty dope I think this is sweet cool
01:03:41
all right well we'll have to test those when those come in yeah otherwise um I have one more thing uh if you've been
01:03:48
watching Tech YouTube for quite a while you're probably aware of John Morrison or TLD today wonderful Channel part of
01:03:55
team chrisp with Marquez he recently posted a health update he's been going through some things over the last couple
01:04:00
years and hasn't been able to post which has been a shame because he made some of the best looking Tech videos out there I
01:04:07
used to watch all his videos so much he is one of the nicest people I've ever met um super super nice when I first
01:04:14
started here and meeting him was awesome uh he's definitely going through a few things hopefully he will be making
01:04:19
videos again soon because his last update seemed like he was on the right track to a lot of things but if you know
01:04:25
him and youve wondering why he hasn't been making videos highly suggest going and watching that most recent video and
01:04:31
if he's out there listening hope you feel better uh and can't wait to see more videos from you in the future
01:04:36
hopefully definitely yeah cool sweet trivia let's take it to
01:04:44
trivia trivia dude so quick update on the score Marquez who's not here with
01:04:52
11 David with 10 Andrew also with
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11 this is your chance to get ahead if you can answer either of these questions about
01:05:03
Marquez at least one of them is 50/50 I forget do you ask marz these questions
01:05:09
no no not didn't ask me I it's too easy all right first question is Marquez a
01:05:16
sausage McMuffin person or an Egg McMuffin person at McDonald's breakfast
01:05:23
sandwich wow Andrew's already done writing with the confidence a regular McMuffin has
01:05:30
Canadian bacon right no idea I don't know I'm pretty sure I'm right about I am not if Ellis was here this was
01:05:36
Ellis's question he would definitely yeah well that's what I'm confused a little bit by it cuz if there's an Egg
01:05:42
McMuffin does just the Egg McMuffin include Canadian bacon or is that only
01:05:47
egg I I don't know I wrote sausage I did
01:05:53
as well so you both wrote sausage yeah yes you both get the points let's go
01:05:58
correct I think I remember him mentioning this and saying something like the sausage McMuffin is the best breakfast thing at any fast food
01:06:04
restaurant the McMuffin itself at McDonald's is the best because of the freshly Cracked Egg which is what makes
01:06:10
it so much better although a MCG griddle bucks I think he specifically mentioned
01:06:17
the McMuffin or maybe it was the McGriddle I don't remember as like the best like tournament F yes he did say that all right like an insane amount of
01:06:24
1600 holy moly it's maybe not that high but it's one of the highest calori items on
01:06:31
the McDonald's men that's crazy all right next question according to the New
01:06:36
York Empire website of which Marquez is a player of the team on that didn't make
01:06:43
any sense but on the website what does it say his nickname [Music]
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is this is a total guess based on what I think people might joke around with him
01:07:00
okay like what you think like inside jokes are or something yeah I don't know if played with very few of the players
01:07:08
on the Empire okay um so I don't know what their sense of humor might be like
01:07:14
giving Marquez a name interesting oh if that is the nickname I'm gonna be so mad that I got it wrong
01:07:21
I can't see so what did you say David I wrote MKBHD
01:07:28
wait what it's both right and wrong but I'll give him the point because what did you write Andrew I wrote
01:07:34
Hollywood no I'm assuming they're like making fun of him for being a big shot like ribbing at him for being famous
01:07:41
it's just mkb oh yeah oh they dropped the HD nice I don't know if anyone
01:07:46
actually calls him that it's just what it says on the it says that on the web just mkb drop the HD it's cleaner it
01:07:52
says that his nickname is that or it just says like Marquez mkb no nickname colon
01:07:58
mkb oh yeah interesting so now we're all 11 yeah we're all at 11 we're all tied
01:08:05
up I think you knowing players and knowing Marquez for so long and playing with them backfired no I think I'm just
01:08:10
an idiot and didn't think of literally the thing that our his Channel's been named about forever
01:08:16
because Ultimate Frisbee loves to be like hey Marquez is bigger than Ultimate Frisbee as a whole let's use that to
01:08:23
help that's why they call him Hollywood no no no I don't think they call him Hollywood I just made that up oh I've
01:08:28
never heard anyone call Hollywood yeah we're not all tied up no you two have 12 now and Marquez has 11 no I have a oh no
01:08:35
no yeah yeah no you're right you're right yeah we have 12 Marquez would have
01:08:42
gotten those epic Marquez definitely would have gotten those right do you know what my nickname was in ultimate
01:08:47
ultimate Marque would get this right wait a huh I think I feel like we've said it
01:08:56
before does it have to do with your name no so it's nothing to do with yeah it's
01:09:02
it semi has to do with my age which is going to be really weird for you guys cuz you've always known me as one of the older people in
01:09:08
the you were young then I got the name when I was younger the nickname buddy
01:09:15
boy young manga it's freshman cuz when I was a freshman at my
01:09:21
college I was one of the only ones got that nickname that stuck with me through my enti you were a senior being called
01:09:27
freshman I used to say all the time that I was just a freshman in new things so like I was a freshman in the workforce I
01:09:34
was a freshman on whatever team I was playing for or something like that beginner mentality yeah surprised
01:09:41
Marquez used to only call me freshman because that was just what everybody on our team me that's so crazy and then he
01:09:47
started calling me Andrew and I started working I was like oh I have a name that's my name I have a
01:09:52
name that's me he's talking to me give me a name all right David take us out
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all right wait for is produced by Adam no not that just regular outro oh sorry
01:10:04
you can do it too uh thanks for watching do it all thank you for watching this episode of the way for podcast we have
01:10:10
been your host David and Andrew that's not how we usually do this but I don't know the way keep going don't stop uh if
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you liked this video make sure to like it and hit the Subscribe button because we're legally obliged to do that because
01:10:23
we're professional YouTubers oh actually there are laws that's true that's one of
01:10:28
the laws that's one of the laws uh I also actually forgot I want to make one quick amendment to last week's episode
01:10:34
do it that one's so good uh we when we were
01:10:41
talking about the wwc updates and how you can now as of iOS 18 react with any
01:10:49
Emoji uh I was I think I noted about how that's going to cause some some of those tapback complications
01:10:55
turns out you can actually react with any emoji on Google messages whoops and
01:11:03
Google messages currently has a thing called photoemoji which is basically the
01:11:08
same thing as reacting with stickers which Apple just added an iOS 18 yeah I still think photo emoji and stickers
01:11:16
probably will be a little they're going to be different there is going to be a lot of compatibility issues cuz well cuz
01:11:22
the way the sticker reactions were different whereas photo Rea reactions on
01:11:28
Google is where the Emoji would be whereas on the iPhone you had it on iMessage it was like there was the Emoji
01:11:34
react and it was tagged on the bottom yeah the stickers get tagged on the bottom when you react with stickers oh
01:11:39
yeah yeah um also very interestingly I was looking into this a lot because I
01:11:45
was reading about this a lot yesterday and trying to like formulate some idea based on this and the Gen Emoji they get
01:11:52
I was talking to Apple they get treated as stickers okay so when so if you send a gen Emoji
01:11:59
to somebody they can save it as a sticker the interesting thing is there is a new API that apple is putting out
01:12:06
for developers that allows gen Emoji to be used in line with text which is something that emoji can do because they
01:12:12
are Unicode which means they are text okay so you've always been able to say like I went to the store today store
01:12:19
Emoji I was really happy about it smiley face and it's just like this long string where you've never been able to put
01:12:25
stickers in line with text so the weird thing about Jed Emoji is they exhibit
01:12:31
features of both stickers and emoji and I have this conspiracy theory that apple
01:12:38
is trying to sort of make the idea of a sticker and an emoji sort of the same
01:12:44
idea in people's heads because they act the exact same way uh that's going to
01:12:49
very be very confusing when you send someone a gen emoji and it just ends up being looking like a PN when you send it
01:12:55
to an Android User I don't know anyway I was wrong about the Google thing and I apologize um that's
01:13:04
it anyway thanks for watching please like And subscribe we're going hungry over here um it's lunchtime it's
01:13:10
lunchtime we'll catch you guys in the next episode when Marquez will be back and I will not be because I will be in
01:13:17
Wyoming oh I did not know that I didn't know that either I did know that but I
01:13:22
didn't know that now you know this is you just telling putting in for vacation live on the
01:13:27
podcast I need to be out next week anyway you want to take us out sure wa
01:13:32
for is produced by Adam Alina and Ellis Roven actually Ellis has Co so it wasn't we we're part of the Fox Media podcast
01:13:38
Network and music was created by V still also Ellis price still did probably edit some part of this episode so maybe I
01:13:43
don't know he's sick as that's just embarrassing I can't believe you brought that back up I sound so weird there
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catch you guys later [Music]
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