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um a bunch of the strangest in my opinion dumbest EV features we've seen in a long time um also possibly some of the strangest dumbest Smartwatch features we've seen in a long time and then a whole bunch of
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the AI stuff that we've seen over the past couple weeks and months sort of building up one of those things where
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like I think we're gonna end up making a video on the main Channel about this and this is one of those times where we kind
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phones that we use the first phone we were using was probably very different when we started the podcast you want to talk about these ear the what is this
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earbuds or watch which would you call it okay let's do earbuds yeah that's a good
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point is it a smart I think it's a smart watch Smart Watch okay so Huawei I don't
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know if this was a leak or Huawei posted it I I saw it on the verge but essentially it's a new Huawei Smartwatch
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that then pops open and has two Huawei earbuds inside it and when I first saw this my immediate thought was cool the two things I want in a smartwatch are
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for it to be thicker and for it to have worse battery life so I don't understand this at all and surprisingly when I said
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that on Twitter a lot of people disagreed with me and thought this was really cool and I'm just baffled by that
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aspect it's uh I'll tell you what it is which is an interesting Gadget and we don't get that many interesting gadgets aren't all the smart watches kind of the same looking at this point you can get
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the square one I don't think this looks any different than I think this just looks worse than other ones because it's
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thicker right no matter how many of them also let you hold and charge your earbuds like functionally okay functionally that's kind of cool I would love to hear this argument no I just
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mean like okay in the future someday when battery life isn't dramatically compromised in this tiny amount of space
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wouldn't it be cool to also be able to have your earbuds just like in your smartwatch
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is one of those as a hypothetical yeah a hypothetical hypothetical sure the thing
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here is is like Wireless truly wireless earbuds like this are the absolute easiest thing to carry out of anything else in the tech world like these are the smallest carrying cases possible
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they're super easy to bring with you literally anywhere even like I know a lot of women say that they don't have
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pockets like they have enough of a pocket to fit an earbud casein generally like this I think this is uh one of the
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things that's underrated about some wireless earbuds that actually have a small case because a lot of them have a
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surprisingly unwieldy case and I think the the smart watch would be the smallest case possible you know why
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they're unwieldy because they have good battery life yeah they put a big battery in them and then they need like the
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shape around them and they need a nice clamp and some magnets and the clasp and they put it all together but like the Beats of like a giant case for no reason
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like they don't need it to be that big I don't think yeah airpods are like literally one of the smallest cases for
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wireless earbuds they do yeah airpods are weird when you look at them next to other ones they look about the same size
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but because of the shape and the thinness of it it's usually much easier I like I've found them to be some of the
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easier ones to carry around um new Galaxy buds are pretty good but this just to me I mean like it's one of the
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arguments I saw was no now your watch has more batteries because the earbuds have batteries in it and it can take from the earbuds and I was like oh but
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then your earbuds have no batteries yeah that's weird that's you're just saying that there's space in there that could have just been a battery so one of these
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things has to have a terrible battery life I mean with today's I would argue both of them have a terrible probably yeah that's but you know the idea the
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the future the thing is the I'm wearing the Galaxy watch 5 right now do you do you think a pair of wireless earbuds could fit in this no how much bigger do you think this would have to be I also I'm using the 40 millimeter
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also so like this is the smaller one yeah I mean I have the watch Ultra and there's no way anything there's no way earbuds that fit in that and that is
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gigantic like there are a lot of people saying the watch Ultra is really cool but they could never wear it every day because it's way too big this thing is
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going to be look at how small the the leather band on it looks yeah it's minuscule I guess on the other hand an
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atom can probably back me up there's a lot of people who wear much bigger watches than the smart watches that
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we're wearing right now I don't know if those are the same people that want earbuds in their watch but I'm just saying it's out there do
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you know what's funny is out there in that situation the company that I would probably believe this to be better I
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think wouldn't make good earbuds which is like Garmin like Garmin are big watches insane battery life so I don't think that's an issue exactly what I was
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going to say yeah like the new epics just came out and has like a 16-day battery life or something and I actually
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believe that it has a 16 day battery life so cut it in half and throw something you'd still have eight days of battery but I don't think Garmin earbuds
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would be good maybe if they collabed I mean I'm sure Harman Kardon would love to throw their name on literally anything so they could probably collab
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with Carmen but maybe in that scenario I could see it I just can't imagine how many times this is going to get knocked into a wall like it's so big there's a thing like in watches when you're
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wearing them it's how many times you could just knock them into like the door frame as you're walking through it and
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you're not paying attention and then all the watch survive or and every time you do that two earbuds fall down on the
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floor and roll across open and things are just yeah just like imagine being at the mall or something and just like uh
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now all of a sudden your earbuds are rolling away in a group of crowded people because you accidentally knocked into like a mannequin or a clothes Sack
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or something like that it all seems they're so crazy there's just I agree I agree with all of this it's just that
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there's something about consolidating two things that you'd have to charge and carry separately into one thing and that
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general idea I like I don't know if you'd put like your earbuds in your phone there's probably a phone case
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earbuds in there I think there has been there's at least been concepts of that I almost feel like that makes more sense because phones at this point are already
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almost unwieldy to put in Pockets so it's either 100 million Powers Yeah for your earbuds yeah I don't know like I
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don't know how regular Huawei watches are have you tested one I never have I have not I I would assume they're
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similar to a Galaxy watch or pixel watch just kind of like the standard you barely you have about a day a little
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more than a day so putting this in there even if it's using the battery from the
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headphones on a day that you don't use it there's still gaps of where it all has to fit and extra connectors that have to pair to it like you're losing
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battery space no matter what dude if Apple did this the world would be on fire someone said that I don't think I agree
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with that I think they love this I don't think obviously one I don't think Apple would ever do this no no of course but
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well maybe not ever but if you try to fit current earbuds apple airpods or whatever inside of an Apple Watch it wouldn't work but tiny tiny earbuds inside of a watch people would go oh
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that's genius that's beautiful I still think people think it's stupid well what's funny it needs an amazing match I
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think the people who think this is cool would hate the Apple version of it and I think the people who hate this would
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think the Apple version is cool or the same people like me because I'm perfect would think this is stupid all around
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and I disapprove of whoever did that we're gonna have a talk after work I'm gonna try to get my hands on this watch
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okay I'm gonna try good luck speaking of watches really quick a lot of people liked this last time but do you see my
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um my Alpine Loop for my Galaxy watch isn't that weird isn't this an apple band no didn't you say somebody was like
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nice watch before you showed them I went to a Taco Bell my natural uh habitat um and the guy at the drive through was like yo sick watch because I would kind of have my arm like resting on my window
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and then I like turned it over and went wait what because it was a Galaxy watch and not an Apple Watch Ultra and that's
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amazing I was like that was amazing but dude there are so many good knockoff watch bands on Amazon I have a Trail
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Loop knockoff and an Alpine watch knockoff and they were ten dollars each so and they're probably very close in
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actual material and quality to the like I would call them seven to eight out of ten in comparison when you're a tenth of
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the price yeah I think that's pretty awesome that's pretty good um all right another kind of ridiculous
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thing that I know you want to talk about I want to talk about maybe one of the this might not even be a hot take one of
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the dumbest things I've ever seen this is funny because I get to play Devil's death this time and you get to be mad at
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me okay so Lexus there's a video on Evo Magazine's Twitter of Lexus developing a
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manual transmission for electric cars in the form of like the you know a stick shot full-blown stick shift and there's a video of this guy driving around for 45 seconds shifting like a normal stick
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shift car but it's like adding noise adding all this extra well I didn't notice the noise noise it's terrible
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we'll play a little clip of the video for you guys foreign but yeah this this seems uh this seems like the one of the dumbest things I've ever seen does it have a boost gauge it
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seems like it's got like an RPM counter and yeah I don't know what that maybe that's a just a way of knowing when to
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shift but like I I quote tweeted this with an older tweet of mine and I think we've probably talked about this on the
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this is 100 which is like we're gonna look back at the transition period where you're trying to convince people to get
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an electric car and look at all the weird things they do to imitate gas cars as hilarious because look electric cars
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are just fundamentally easier to use and to add back all of the clunky and inefficient and engaging of a manual gas car is just a waste of time get over it
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ignore the like just just drive just drive you'll be fine I'm going to play Devil's Advocate but I also don't know why because I I truly don't think there's many people that would argue for
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this because if you like manual you probably hate EVs and if you like EVS you probably don't care about manual that much I think there's a very small
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small Niche place that might find this interesting yeah and we have talked about it a little bit before in the sense of there
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is still driving scenarios that require that skill based is more fun and like maybe you're racing or something like that where if you're just putting pedal to the floor you're you're losing a lot
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of different variables that way a gas car um I mean eventually we would like to go everything to EV right yeah I mean the
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Enthusiast fun car I imagine that will stay the gas car the longest there's no sense in making the electric
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that's my that's my thing it's like 90 of the comments are like agreeing with me like this is dumb and then 10 are
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like wait I like manual cars this is cool but that person's still not buying this they're just gonna buy an older gas card to do this I think there's potentially an area in where
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we get to the point where EV is the performance you're getting out of an EV is so much cheaper than the performance
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you would get out of like a gas car like let's like it already is at that point so let's go even cheaper now like now
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you're racing something that's thirty thousand dollars but has a zero to sixty that's equivalent to something that is
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like 70 to 80 000 that's very normal right now yeah and then but now you can add the skill based aspect of it so if you're doing a track day
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to add variable like the thing is is if now you're racing on track day and the only aspect is pressing the pedal
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forward like you're losing out on so much I still yeah I like the actual I just think there's still part of it there's so many other things that are still skill related with driving like
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even when you just play when you go-kart race which is just like oh you just hit the pedal and go there's all the driving
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lines acceleration braking handling the weight of the cart like all those things still matter you just don't have to [ __ ]
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like there's lots of arguments in the gas car world now about like oh man Porsche's pdk is so fast but I still
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want the manual version because it's more engaging and I'll just be slower and there's lots of cars that are
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literally too fast for a manual gearbox and it's like we don't do manual gearboxes anymore because that's not safe I mean the biggest argument to this
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is F1 F1 still has shifting F1 has shifting and is there it's part it's part of the
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sport like there is a skill gap between of people who are shifting better and I think cars that are built that are
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shifting differently yeah I think for the sport of professionals yeah I'm talking about the sport yeah but there's
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still a hobbyist sport aspect of things I yeah it's niche and you're going to be paying a lot extra for this um I think
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the other thing is people I saw a lot of comments that were saying why would I want this why would I want to drive
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every day like this manual sucks in everyday driving like if it's electric it's not going to be stuck in manual it's going to be a mode I guarantee you
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you can drive this car with just a pedal and not having to shift there's a lot of cars out there that have even gas cars
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that have this like fake shifting or stuff like like my Forester is a CVT which doesn't have gears and still has
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fake shifting on it for I think it's really stupid but so that's what happens when a fake shifts you fake shift and it
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just creates what it would be similar to a gear I think the only real scenario is like
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if you wanted lower gear and like snow or mud or something like that um but if you even in that scenario if you [ __ ] it
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up it'll just be like nope you're wrong and then go past it yeah yeah this is like I there's I think this is extremely
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yeah I feel like F1 is the thing but we've been driving cars for a hundred something years and we still have horse races yeah it's like there will always be like the people
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that take that older thing and continue doing it no matter what I think when you reach a a like moment of Peak
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Performance you need to add more variables into things to create larger skill gaps of stuff like that so in the
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sport obvious aspect of this like shifting is still going to be one of those variables that will make the
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difference between on a track drivers yeah I'm only talking about track I if you do something like a regular Lexus
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I don't even know maybe a car maybe an SUV and it's like you're adding inefficiency you're adding distraction
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you're adding engagement sure but for what if you want that feeling just just get a
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gasket they're also driving on the wrong side of the road yes who would ever do that driver on the
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right side geez we can't take them seriously wild anyway see I I I want to say I've enjoyed both of us Playing devil's advocate because I saw moments where both of us legitimately got mad at
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the other person and I I love it can I throw one more wrench in here to do it Formula E cars have Transmissions of course they do I actually didn't know that also no one cares about formula
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that at the highest level I also have speed boosts it's I still think there's so many variables I think with Formula E
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there are way more regulations so all the cars are more similar so the gearbox is an actual variable I've always heard
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that it's a efficiency thing like you can actually pull more efficiency out of the electric motors by running them
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through a transmission yes but I don't know so most electric cars today have one gear and that's because they can run at an extremely high range of RPMs from zero having all
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their torque up to say 20 000 RPM or whatever Tesla Model S is one of those lots of electric cars do that there's a
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couple that have two gears and they'll say they do that because they have a high performance lower gear for like getting off the line quick acceleration and then a lower RPM higher gear for
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efficiency so when you're cruising along the highway when you're going at higher speeds you use that higher gear uh
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that's why gas cars have so many gears is because they're extremely inefficient outside of their like Peak Power Band
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which is a several hundred RPM so yes adding more gears can make you more efficient theoretically it's just a matter of whether you want that complexity in a gearbox and do you want
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to add all those parts to your car when you can probably get away with having one gear and doing great things with
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several Motors instead of several gears yeah I think we're both in agreeance that everyday driving yes everyday
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driving I hate this I think there's a sport hobbyist aspect of it that is kind of I'll admit that yeah if someone were to buy this for everyday driving I bet they would use it for like a week and
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then probably never touch it again like you would just drive the car they'd be so annoyed all right let's take a break we gotta come back and talk about all
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this AI stuff that's been on Twitter lately BRB oh wait I I saw Ellis go for the microphone yeah and it's been so long we had the Hassan interview we had the week
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off we completely fell out of our Rhythm we have to do trivia we have to do trivia and I think there's gonna be a
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pretty trivia-tastic episode coming up I knew about that okay I knew about that so you know we're making up for it we'll
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make up first but yeah it's trivia yes of course how could I forget all right so
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across the Atlantic Far Far Away there's a magical realm called Europe and in Europe I've heard of that crazy right in Europe there's a science center and at
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the science center both the Higgs boson particle was discovered and the World Wide Web was invented do you know the name of this Science Center
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oh man I thought I was going to be able to guess the country at least and then you're like I know the name of the facility that honestly I'll take the
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I'll take the country oh well now it's gonna be bad when I get this from all right half know that that's a good one
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oh no he's real he's real don't worry no what am I one of my biggest pet peeves though Loki is when companies say that
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they're using AI to do something very clearly not this morning I really get annoyed by this like there are companies
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who say they have ai autofocus and uh the difference between that and eye recognition is very faint I don't know why they feel me I think
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actually I know why AI is very futuristic it's in the news a lot it seems like this black box of mystery and
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wonder that kicks out amazing results and so people like to lean into AI whenever they have anything smart in their product it's AI
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but I want to talk about actual AI for a little bit because it has actually made uh the rounds on you've seen it on
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Twitter right yeah chat GTP conversations it's just nice to have Twitter about something else blowing up
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besides just Twitter I'm tired of reading about Twitter for the last month yeah this is this is why I like Twitter
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moments like this where we all get this little taste of the future through a open AI research project that is
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basically a chat bot but that draws from a gigantic catalog of the world's information and is able to do amazing things and it's kind of terrifying some of the things it's been able to do it is
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fun to collectively gawk and be terrified together yeah this is so like I said earlier this is one of those things where I want to make a video about this because I have some thoughts about all of the AI stuff how it's used
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what we can use it for how it might evolve into the future and this is you know just me like thinking out loud on some of that stuff uh but you have a so I want to talk about two of them the two
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big ones we're talking about chat GPT which is like a chat and then we're also seeing a bunch of like Avatar AIS so
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we're going to talk about both of them quickly like you said we haven't discussed this too far we're gonna use the podcast as kind of our yeah our
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first dive into this and I think we've toyed around with it a little bit so uh I have a couple examples here um chat GPT though is like people are online we're already getting people sending to
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us like creating full MKBHD videos through chat gbt and it does a pretty dang good job so basically what it is is it's a text box you can type in any chat
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and just have a conversation with it you can ask it questions you can give it lines of code and ask for it to find
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what's wrong with the code for you you can ask it to write a poem for you you can have a conversation back and forth
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about something you learned and it will further educate you on the topic like it has all this information to have realistic meaningful thought and
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response conversations like we talked about on Google AI Google I O came around and Google Assistant got more conversational it would remember context what was that one project they had like
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a conversation bot project they were working on and that was like more research project here like this but even
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in the consumer a product we use now Google Assistant when you ask how tall is Barack Obama it'll tell you and then
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your next question can be oh when's his birthday and you don't have to say when is Barack Obama's birthday you're in a
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conversation flow this is like the ultimate highest end AI version of that in research form and we've been asking
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it for all kinds of things hey give me a a script for an MKBHD video about you know art and Ai and it will actually give me a script for an MKBHD video like
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it it's pretty good and the best part about is like what I really loved about that I don't want to spoil too much because we have some fun examples saved
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for the video later but like when you talk about when you say write it for a YouTube video it ends with like don't
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forget to subscribe and hit that like button or like if you ask it to write you a tweet it'll put hashtags at the
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end of it like it understands the context of even the social media I get that it can do poems and stuff but
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seeing that it's doing this like new age uh ways of posting almost and finding that context is really switching really cool um I I made a couple examples for
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waveform though today um the first one I did I'd like for you to read it it's I asked it to write an
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intro for the waveform podcast hosted by Marquez and Andrew okay and I'm gonna have Marquez read this like a regular
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intro and so yeah maybe we'll switch ours up this is what it came up with welcome to the waveform podcast where
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hosts Marquez and Andrew explore the latest in technology and science join us as we delve into the fascinating world
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of Cutting Edge Innovation and discover how it's shaping our future from the latest advancements in artificial intelligence to the frontiers of space
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exploration we cover it All Tune in every week for engaging discussions and thought-provoking insights so like right
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off the bat that seems kind of simple but if you really think that all I put in there was waveform podcast and both
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of our names it hit stuff like technology science AI space exploration that it's weekly and we're doing a discussion that's pretty
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impressive okay so I gotta admit something okay when I first started seeing these I was very unimpressed okay
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because I felt like it was basically taking a few key words and then just copying and pasting examples of popular versions of that often from maybe just
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Wikipedia articles so I had people send me like what is an armadillo or what is Ultimate
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Frisbee yeah and then it would just tell me what ultimate frisbee is and it would read exactly like the like the Wikipedia
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article and I was like that's not impressive at all like I could ask Google that and it would tell me the same thing
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so it really became much more impressive when the prompts got more creative I think it's similar to Dolly where like dolly was impressive but clearly kind of messed up but the more intense you got
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with the prompts yeah and how it still was continued to be messed up like errors here and there but it's still
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could contextually figure out this two to three sentence long prompt yeah and still create something that made sense it's the more so so there's a a normal
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accepted error rate let's just call it like ten percent and when you just ask Dolly give me a cat and it gives you a cat but ten percent of the things look kind of weird you're
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like not impressed but when you ask Dolly give me a cat with 12 legs in a style of Monet
00:27:58
on like canvas with like robots fighting in the background and it actually does 90 of that yeah it's really impressive so I feel like it's kind of along the
00:28:09
same lines here chat GTP I've had a number of conversations with it I've asked it lots of things I even tweeted
00:28:15
what I asked for uh you know iOS versus Android essay Android versus iOS essay and I at previous versions of that it
00:28:22
got some things wrong like it was telling me some things that weren't actually true but the fact that I was
00:28:27
that detailed with my prompt and I was like give me the style of the YouTube video give me Android better than iOS
00:28:33
give me these things I was like pretty impressed that it was actually able to generate that much even though a lot of it still kind of does read like it's
00:28:39
taking from the top line of an article it found or the second paragraph of the Wikipedia about Android it's it's sort
00:28:45
of throwing together a structure based on things that I asked for which is cool it's blending them very well if it I
00:28:51
mean it pretty much is doing that I guess the argument would be how much is it just copy and pasting from the exact
00:28:57
things it finds or how much is it analyzing x amount of data and then just through all of that data creating something because if you search your name Wikipedia is not going to be the only one there's going to be 400 pages
00:29:09
that say like Marquez is an American Tech YouTuber with 16 million followers and then it's gonna be like oh
00:29:15
500 articles have said that that's got to be important I want to take that and put that in there some form of that in
00:29:20
there um but yeah the the way it contextualizes different things and actually make sure that it's using them
00:29:27
all correctly in like a story for the most part you're right there is still an error there is still an error rate yeah
00:29:33
for sure and some of them you read and you're like that's awesome and then I think David was saying something about
00:29:38
fastest sea mammal he's like oh that's so cool and then looked it up it's like wait it's not that like that's not what
00:29:43
it is yeah yeah and I also have like uh and then this will also I think be in the video there are some errors that are
00:29:51
more common than others like when you ask for these like AI paintings or portraits or
00:29:57
Dolly yeah hands we're gonna get into the the paintings in a minute the art I guess can I do I I wrote I got made a story in chat GPT that can I read this
00:30:08
and then we'll get into uh the more art version of it all right um in the holiday spirit I asked
00:30:17
in the holiday spirit I asked chat GPT to write a story about how Tech YouTuber Marcus Brownlee had to take over the
00:30:22
role of Santa Claus would you like to hear I would love to hear what it came up with all right
00:30:27
[Music] it was the night before Christmas and Marquez Brownlee better known as MKBHD
00:30:34
on YouTube was feeling more than a little stressed as a tech YouTuber he's used to filming and editing videos not
00:30:40
delivering presents to children all over the world but that's exactly what he had to do thanks to a mix-up at the North
00:30:45
Pole apparently Santa Claus had come down with a terrible cold and was able to make the rounds and since Marquez has
00:30:51
been so good this year the elves had chosen him to take over the job Marquez is a bit hesitant at first but
00:30:56
he knew that it was his duty to help out so he quickly put on the red suit and hopped into Santa's sleigh which was powered by the latest and greatest
00:31:02
technology the sleigh was equipped with a GPS system that showdemark has exactly where children lived and it even had built-in
00:31:09
cameras so that he could capture all the reactions as he delivered the presents as Marquez flew from house to house he
00:31:15
couldn't help but smile he loved seeing the excitement on the faces of the children as they opened their gifts and even got to try out some of the new tech
00:31:21
toys that he had helped design before he knew it it was time to return to the North Pole Marquez was exhausted
00:31:28
but he felt a sense of satisfaction knowing that he helped to make Christmas special for so many kids as he handed
00:31:33
the reins back to Santa Marquez couldn't help but joke I think I might have to retire from Tech and become a full-time Santa Santa just chuckled in reply I
00:31:40
think we might have to make you an elf whoa he got burned at the end what that was so good that was really good it wasn't really good what was the prompt again give me that one more time it was write a story about how Tech YouTuber
00:31:53
Marquez Brownlee had to take over the role of Santa Claus that was I kind of missed the music already yeah that was really good it had a punch line at the end it really
00:32:06
so whoa yeah it's a it's a lot of fun to play with I'm very interested to see where this goes I can't wait for like in five years you just called this before this is kind of like the highest form of
00:32:19
CH like conversational AI that we're we're seeing and in five years when we look back on this and think about how
00:32:24
terrible it was it's going to be really impressive to see where we go for real okay now we should talk a little bit
00:32:29
about the the visual versions The visuals yes there's been we talked we did a whole video about Dolly we've
00:32:35
talked about Dolly it's using you know obviously diffusion and creating images from scratch using a natural language text prompt which is sick uh there's
00:32:45
another one uh that's generating AI avatars of people there's a couple yeah and I think with this one basically you
00:32:52
feed it several images is that right so you give it some images of yourself yeah and it can spit out some cartoon version
00:32:59
of you with different situations it's very Dolly like except this time focusing on humans although human that
00:33:06
are consenting by giving you their pictures um Prisma Labs did one for you and you
00:33:11
have a million photos of yourself online and it did a very very good job like yours are insanely impressive and I
00:33:19
think what it's doing is is similar to Dolly where it knows what a general person looks like but the really cool
00:33:26
thing is that it confines the stylization of other things and make you into it like this is you it looks like
00:33:34
you're in a Chevron hoodie astronaut suit um and like cool more like Miami Vice uh
00:33:42
here's you in a purple suit which is really awesome yeah um a lot of it is really cool and yours are super
00:33:49
impressive you're pretty good uh one thing I've noticed that it never really does well just like Dolly uh hands and
00:33:55
text so anytime there's supposed to be texting it like the one with the astronaut suit supposed to have some text on it right there doesn't really
00:34:01
make a real word if you ask Dolly to make a stop sign seven out of ten times yeah some weird word and then uh I think if you there's some other other YouTube
00:34:13
friends that have done this with hands but even look at the one with me in a purple suit like that those hands don't quite match up there's like a floating
00:34:18
thumb on the top of my hands there that isn't connected to either hand that just happens when you have hands and photos
00:34:24
with AI um so hands are tough other than that pretty good yeah yours yours is very
00:34:31
good Sarah dichi did one with Avatar AI that was incredible I mean but again then there's like Justine who did one on
00:34:39
I forget if it was prism or Avatar hers was bad yeah and she has a lot of really good pictures out there and her face
00:34:46
looks nothing like her and some some of them her eye is like almost off to the side like off the side of her head it
00:34:53
seems to really like some people and really dislike some people myself who doesn't have a lot of good photos online
00:34:58
tried Avatar AI it is rough really I'm gonna show you something I disagree these are fantastic these are honestly these so I think these are really bad to
00:35:10
be fair the photos I fed into it were not great although it still took about 30 photos
00:35:15
um and if you would like oh yeah where are they yours as well there's a link in the dock oh it's okay I'm clicking on it now some of the so like
00:35:29
some of these are very good some of these are very bad I also totally don't approve of all the categories that put me in it shows dominatrix as the first character there's also like gym and for
00:35:41
whatever reason sunflower field none of them look like me I look like Dr house and some of them which I'm not opposed to like it's funny so Andrew you did not tell me that you starred and Iraq
00:35:59
I don't think we can show the gym one uh the gym ones are incredible they don't so there's a varying amount of
00:36:05
resemblance to your face because you can tell it's picking which photo it's going to use and trying to make it look like you the Picasso one looks less like a
00:36:14
photorealistic version I would argue the ones that look the most like me are just the most standard ones that felt like
00:36:20
it's pretty much just pasting the photo that I put in there it like just kind of
00:36:25
looks the race car driver one you can just tell in specific ones it is just my face on Michael Schumacher's face it's a
00:36:31
fashion model one of you in a turtleneck is very good this is this is just a young Michael Schumacher with kind of my facial details yeah so like you can tell
00:36:43
where it's pulling from on some of these things and um I don't um this might be one of those
00:36:50
things where you should watch the clip later if you can't see all of it because it's a little hard to explain I think I think the thing is is it's it's nailing
00:36:57
very normal photos of me the fashion model one the one I'm just like in a business suit or the passport versions
00:37:02
of these are all just kind of normal where photos I fed into this a lot of them were from weddings which I had a
00:37:08
suit on so it's basically just making kind of a drawing version this side profile of me as a fashion model is like
00:37:14
I posted a side profile picture that was exactly like this yeah and it just feels like the photo of me okay that's a good
00:37:22
this is a really good transition point because there's a tough question behind all of this which is
00:37:29
how do you credit what it's taking inspiration from yes and so for the for the ones that you gave it the pictures of it's it's fairly straightforward you gave it a certain set of pictures so you
00:37:41
know what it's drawing inspiration from and if you ever see any similarities it's pretty obvious where it got that
00:37:46
stuff I think my whole thing is actually pretty obvious in a lot of theirs as where the ones that nailed it it's
00:37:52
mostly taking it from the pictures I fed it the ones that didn't nail it you can kind of tell the photos it's grabbing
00:37:57
from yeah and that's like you said it's a it's a discussion that I think we need to have because it's a discussion on
00:38:03
Twitter now is at what part of where it's scraping from is okay I guess and that is a tough question so you mentioned that other one is clearly a picture of young Michael Schumacher
00:38:15
definitely just Michael Schumacher that photo where did that come from exactly and we don't know the artist or the
00:38:21
photographer or any of that behind that image and I think that comes back to even like so dolly dolly from openai is
00:38:28
taking from an unknown giant database of like all the information that they fed into it and then if I ask it for a
00:38:36
picture of a cat in space or whatever it'll give me a picture of a cat in space and maybe it's taken some photos from artists about cats and some photos
00:38:42
from NASA about space but if I ask it for a photo of a cat in space in the style of an MKBHD video it might be taking frames
00:38:55
from an MKBHD video that it has in his database and should it be able to do that yes and that is a tougher question I think that is a very tough question and I'm going to preface this by saying
00:39:07
we're just gonna say our opinions very quickly on this and we're looking at it so I don't want anyone to yeah I just
00:39:13
want to preface this we're not copyright lawyers there's also just like I don't know it's a tough tough subject
00:39:19
yeah and I think there's a lot of conversation to be had about it um but there are a lot of artists out
00:39:24
there who seem to be seeing this and saying that a lot of things look far far too similar to art that is not consenting into the into being part of
00:39:35
these AI databases and we just don't know how much is a coincidence versus how much is is it literally dry
00:39:41
inspiration it's very very hard so the weight here the weight Dolly works is really interesting and I you can sort of go back and watch the video again and hear the explanations and there's other explainers of this but it's like it has
00:39:53
all this information it has all this database it uses diffusion it has an image of you can you can listen to David explain this on a previous episode but it has just like a static image which is
00:40:04
like black and white grain and then it has a final image and it tries to use diffusion to like add structure to this
00:40:13
static image on its way to the thing that you described to learn what you're making so if you ask it for a picture I'm just gonna go with a cat again it knows because it's learned from its
00:40:24
database what a picture of a cat looks like and then it tries to create a picture of a cat from nothing
00:40:30
essentially and so it's not just like taking a piece of someone else's art and pasting it
00:40:37
into this new creation and calling it a new creation that would be a lot more obvious what it's more doing is learning
00:40:43
from all these different sources what it thinks you are trying to ask it for and
00:40:49
then creating a new version of that from scratch and sometimes the level of variation from that new thing is Pretty
00:40:56
Tough like there's probably not that many pictures let's say of a a cat with a purple sky behind it or something so
00:41:03
if you're an artist that made a picture of a cat with a purple sky behind it and then I ask dolly for a picture of a cat
00:41:09
with a purple sky behind it it'll probably resemble a little bit more of that artist's photo
00:41:15
because it doesn't have as many examples to draw from if that makes any sense so it's it's like if I make more specific
00:41:23
more nuanced art I am more likely to find issue with my art being drawn from rather than if I just made like General pictures of cats you know it's tough I also think depending on which AI you're
00:41:37
using there's probably ones that are doing a better job because I I have seen people post that like some of these
00:41:43
avatars they're getting have old artists signatures on them which means it's definitely taking a little
00:41:50
more than just completely learning and it's more melding things together which feels yeah if it literally has a
00:41:56
signature then it's definitely not it's using the fusion I think the the hardest aspect of this is is you've mentioned
00:42:04
we were talking about this a little bit before the show and you mentioned how like in in humanity we take inspiration from
00:42:12
people yeah and there's no fine line of like what is pure copying and what is inspiration and I think it's very hard to to compare that to a machine in AI
00:42:24
learning and like I don't know where that line is at all and I think the more we try and find a line the the more is
00:42:31
the harder it gets on it's fuzzy it's fuzzy because basically you could argue that AI if we're trying to make it as
00:42:38
close to a human experience as possible is literally doing a human's do it's taking inspiration from things and then
00:42:44
making its own thing and so when you think about like copyright and uh stealing yeah you're like all right well
00:42:50
if you make the conscious decision to try to make your own version of that thing you're gonna find yourself copying
00:42:57
parts of that thing but if you sort of subconsciously you might not remember where you remember it from but you kind of have this idea of
00:43:04
what you want something to look like and then you create it you were inspired by all of your previous life's experiences
00:43:09
everything in your life up to that point has led you to what you are painting how do you give credit to all those parts of your life and maybe some pieces of art you might have seen along the way
00:43:21
that might have inspired you that to me is just as complicated as as the AI creating something new from all the sources it has to draw from my one pushback on that would be and again this
00:43:34
is super hard to Define if you can't tell like we want to be very specific with how we say how we talk about this
00:43:40
because I think we both understand that we are we are not artists making physical like paintings and stuff like
00:43:46
this so we maybe don't understand the other thing was like when chat GPT makes a script in the style of an MKBHD video how much is it actually drawing from
00:43:59
things that I have actually said and I asked it for like script in the style of a Mr Beast YouTube video and I think
00:44:05
it's just like has a general thing where for a YouTube video it adds an intro and the style of a YouTuber and an outro it
00:44:13
didn't say peace at the end of mine it didn't have an alliteration it didn't say what's up MKBHD here it just did like the general YouTube thing so I
00:44:20
don't know how specific or what it's actually drawing from there but it didn't seem incredibly so derivative not
00:44:27
to get all conspiratorial but when Andrew was like I'm pretty sure that's just Mick Schumacher I was like I bet I
00:44:34
could find that photo of Mick Schumacher so I've been digging around is it Mick or Michael because he's wearing a red suit so I'm assuming it's a Ferrari
00:44:41
Michael Schumacher the I found closer photos of Mick of Michael but the thing that I wanted to throw out there is that when I run a bunch of the other photos in that race car driver Bunch through it
00:44:54
through Google Lens specifically it brings me a ton of pictures of Haas NASCAR drivers interesting and the suit you're wearing is almost identical to the Haas NASCAR suit and I was wondering
00:45:08
well that's what I'm wondering if somewhere in the metadata of the world there's like a tweet that's like
00:45:14
and you have shirt that you wear and people tweet at you about hospitals anymore interesting can it is is that a
00:45:21
coincidence or is that did it get scraped or like I do want to go into that really quick
00:45:27
and what I was gonna say before is the comparison I think is a gray area of i as a human take inspiration from this and I as an AI have a set database with a physically pointing to a thing on the
00:45:40
internet that belongs to somebody and where that ownership and copyright part stamp you can choose to add things or
00:45:47
remove Things From the Source yes there there's there's a physical link to a specific thing
00:45:53
um I think ultimately in a perfect world where the AI would suck on this is that the database is voluntary or paid for
00:45:59
but I think that database is a fraction fraction fraction of the size of what the database potentially is I also don't know what these databases are pulling from this is we're all speculating I would just I'm
00:46:12
going to go off the Assumption of it's just the internet everything it's some collection that
00:46:18
they put together because they've taken a lot of things out because obviously Dali doesn't want to create certain things so it's taking a lot of things
00:46:24
out of the inspiration and it's taken a lot of things out of things that it'll hopefully create so they have some
00:46:29
curation or control over the sources they just don't like tell us what that is yeah it's all it's
00:46:36
it's a weird area I I think my ultimate do you have anything else more you want to say I kind of have like a closing
00:46:42
thought on my yeah I guess I just think I think uh as I like to draw the line towards the future and see how far
00:46:49
forward I can look at it and it feels like as AI gets more and more complicated and nuanced and impressive
00:46:55
it will it will become more and more feeling like human brain type of thing that's scarce and then you really kind
00:47:02
of do compare it to like how humans draw inspiration from things there will be more explicit inspiration where it's
00:47:08
like Oh I wanna if I'm gonna draw a picture of Andrew with a NASCAR Jersey on I'm gonna give him the Haas one
00:47:13
because that seems like it would work but I think there will be more subtle inspiration like what Fabrics you use or
00:47:19
what colors that are just like I kind of like this color because I grew up liking red like that how do you even
00:47:25
examine what to give credit to that will always be I think a fuzzy line yeah uh I
00:47:31
definitely agree I I would say my final thought maybe is a bit different than yours and I want to go back to something
00:47:37
Hassan said which is just in this AI world one thing we're losing is the the human
00:47:43
aspect of it which is just kind of more of a passion and a feeling behind things and I think all this AI stuff is really
00:47:50
really cool and I see it as a tool for the future a lot of things there are people who aren't as artistically
00:47:56
talented and still want to be able to get a vision out there sometimes and I think that could help with this to then
00:48:02
pass off to the designers and artists that are good at stuff like that that's what I see and and ultimately when I see
00:48:09
these I think they're cool and then I forget about them whereas uh like I love buying prints and stuff
00:48:15
from artists that I find all over the place because I think they're super talented and really beautiful and there's just something behind it that
00:48:22
gives me a much more interested feeling and I enjoy looking at it over and over again I would never buy anything from
00:48:29
any of these AI things and hang them on my wall because there's no Journey behind it yeah where I know that it came
00:48:35
from a human exactly like there's so much more to that in just the overall enjoyment of a piece so that's why I see this as a tool and I don't know if I
00:48:47
hope that I think that feeling is for a lot of people but I I don't know if that's good enough for our like I think
00:48:53
artists still rightfully should be worried about this and how it's handling things but yeah that's why I don't see
00:48:58
it as as big of a threat to Art in general okay two things on that yeah one I do agree with a lot of that and whenever I have a feeling that is like I don't think humans will want X
00:49:12
I always have to think is that a generational thing I always just run I always just run it through that filter
00:49:18
because I always think like do humans want to spend all day in VR no but my nine-year-old cousin doesn't
00:49:25
really sometimes I do like there's there's like always a generational question so I always just toss that and
00:49:30
they're like we'll we'll younger generation I agree like buy air and think it's totally cool maybe but the
00:49:36
other thing is yeah it is a tool and I think that's kind of where I want to go with the video which is like
00:49:42
as far as us as creators using AI to do things and make things it's always a great beginning for brainstorming and coming up with the base of an idea and then you edit it to to create what you
00:49:54
want so every example I have of useful AI is using AI as a tool just like that whether it's like running a picture through the AI sharpening filter in in
00:50:05
pixelmator and then it's not perfect but then you finish it up to look just the way you want or you use the Magic Eraser
00:50:11
tool in the pixel which uses AI to like fill in the background and then there's a couple extra things you want you finish to edit on your on your own
00:50:17
all the way up to like I don't know I just have chat GTP and I just say give me a bunch of video ideas and I look
00:50:24
through that list and I go here's some good ideas and then I pick on my own what I think makes a good idea I could
00:50:30
see like a perfect example would be we want to step up smartphone Awards set and you want to show Brandon something
00:50:37
cool you can then quickly create some sort of visual that's 90 accurate and then Brandon can actually do it whereas yeah trying to sometimes explain what
00:50:47
you picture in your mind is very hard and I am not talented to be able to show that at all yeah so like something like
00:50:54
that is how I I see this folding out at least in my what I would plan to so one of my favorite examples is the combo where someone wanted some inspiration for something so they asked chat GPT for
00:51:08
some descriptions of interesting sets and then they took what the chat spit out and put it into Dolly and had Dolly Ma up those sets so out of completely
00:51:20
nowhere this person just wanted some feelings for some Inspirations for some sets and they got like a bunch of high
00:51:26
resolution images of some sets just completely come up with from AI technically inspired by humans but like
00:51:33
that person will go on to create their own set using the tools of AI as the Baseline for their inspiration that's the basic thing that I think I find most useful with all these AI tools isn't
00:51:45
that kind of limiting though like you're limiting yourself to what the AI can picture I don't think so I think I think
00:51:50
it's more of a a beginning to the rest especially when I'm asking for help like that I'm already like pulling for my own
00:51:58
and not really finding something so I'm like all right I wanna I want a couple Inspirations for like modern sets I've
00:52:03
seen some Modern sets but let's see some Modern sets with Quasar tubes and I just type that into Dolly and then I get oh
00:52:09
what if we put all the lights like horizontally just like giving us ideas and then we take it from there and I
00:52:15
think that's like a legitimate use for it so I think that's probably what I'm gonna use it for yeah I can see I think this is a complicated topic that I'm
00:52:22
excited to see the video on and if anyone else would like to chime in here I would love to hear what other people
00:52:28
think are discords our Discord channels or comments on YouTube both of them great places to chat about this and we'd
00:52:34
love to read that before we dive into this video I think yeah um so we'd appreciate that before we take a quick
00:52:39
break we do have to do another trivia question [Music] all right so Adam has bestowed me with the enormous privilege of doing two trivia questions
00:52:54
today so let's kick it off in 2017 Dara kosrashaki became Uber's second CEO what
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00:54:35
thing I want to do which is the the last video that I put up which was uh my tech hot takes video I inevitably knew I
00:54:42
would be ruffling some feathers with my different levels of hot takes what I wanted to do was rank how hot it turns
00:54:48
out my takes were based on the reactions I saw okay I had four you had four okay four hot takes I'll I'll give them a
00:54:55
ranking after you is that you're ranking them I'll go one through four or you're just gonna give it like a zero to a
00:55:00
hundred a scope to go let's do that yes Google score zero to 100 okay so my first take was uh that Tick Tock in YouTube will co-exist this is not my first take this is my least hot take Tick Tock and YouTube will co-exist
00:55:14
because there's such different use cases that people will just spend their time on each platform and it's fine
00:55:20
uh this met a tiny bit of pushback because people said that they're spending a little bit less time on
00:55:25
YouTube and more on Tick Tock but I generally still stand by the fact that they will co-exist I'm giving this a
00:55:31
ranking of 35 out of 100. uh this is a cold take I think I think this is yeah I I think that's totally reasonable I would argue shorts almost feel different than Tick Tock while still being short
00:55:43
form content um Tick Tock to me feels more Meme and quick hits where YouTube shorts feels a
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little more like a good discoverability platform for main channels main channels are still the focus on short cycle yeah
00:55:56
Tick Tock you don't have that other extra thing behind like what people are trying to help you find on Tech talk uh
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yeah so I'm getting another 35. not that hot 30 10 scovilles 35 Scoville 35 out of 100 Scoville as possible all right that puts us you know in between a bell pepper and a banana pepper so as well
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okay if we want to use a real Scoville skull let's go zero to a hundred thousand
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I have the Scoville yeah 100 it gets to like absurd like million plus gold hundreds less than a jalapeno right like 100 is nothing yes a hundred thousand I mean yeah sorry yeah 100 000 is a pretty
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good 100 000. that's pretty much that's exactly Scotch bonnet well played thank you Sean Evans so let's go zero to a hundred thousand okay that was a 35. that's cool that was a 35. okay bell
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pepper yeah that was a piece of paper yeah not that hot okay uh my next hottest take
00:56:52
was that 5G sucks mostly because most people agreed with me 5G is just not good I think there was
00:56:58
like one use case that I saw it in and I believe New York has a pretty decent 5G
00:57:04
apparently so if you live in a developed City near a tower it's not it's not millimeter wave though it's oh c-band yeah yeah mid-band is
00:57:16
like pretty solid and that is so Niche and yeah I guess if you're in a city that's awesome so if you are a podcast
00:57:22
listener in one of the like 100 countries that's not New York City you probably would agree with that 5G is pretty bad would you argue that if I change that sentence to
00:57:35
um if your parents ask you if they should upgrade to 5G you should say no is that
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just not is that the coldest take ever now yes it's just a fact it's just a fact
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okay yeah if you if they're if your parents are like hi I'm choosing between these two phones and I'm deciding if I
00:57:52
should pick the one of 5G or not you could just say yeah save your money mom and dad not worth it right now Alice looks mad at me saying what do any
00:57:59
phones not have 5G that's actually a really good point thanks to carriers most phones have 5G
00:58:05
yeah and they're all more expensive and all the plans are more expensive and all the battery lives are all worse
00:58:10
and they get hotter and and it's like for what for what yeah I gave you my speeds on you might be right there was a
00:58:16
moment though where I know like Verizon was trying to upgrade people into the 5G
00:58:21
plan and like whether they had a 5G phone or not I know my mom texted me asking if she should do that I was like
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no yeah so on the Scoville scale I'm putting 5G sucks only because there are people in New York who disagree I'm putting this at at one thousand yeah I'll go like
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sure I will go there because I know there are people who disagree I no point of me is excited about 5G every time another five years same every time I see a new 5G
00:58:49
denomination in my status bar I do a speed test and it's like 600 kilobits per second and I'm like what is that
00:58:54
you've lost five percent battery no no this is good so it puts us at a uh poblano poblano so a tiny little bit of
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spice that's a good I like that number okay I had two more second to highest nobody
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cares about panel gaps real people don't care about panel caps customers who are
00:59:13
buying Teslas are not actually asking or caring about panel gas this is something we've talked about a hundred times on this episode it's um got real pushback I think the wording of it
00:59:26
makes sense I think it makes it seem just like it's like people don't notice it or like
00:59:33
that they're they can't be like it feels like you're telling them they're not allowed to be upset I know that's not
00:59:39
what you're saying but that's what it sounds like when you put that therefore I think the take is hot interesting I do
00:59:45
agree with you that it is on a bottom of the list right aspect of things and I think that happens in a lot of things
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and I just when I hear that sentence it makes it feel like we can just forget about panel gaps and I think it's still something that Tesla needs to severely improve on yeah I had to break that down
01:00:01
in the video of course after the the title of the hot take I'm like here's what I'm actually saying
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um but I did sort of end it with like all right you could you could have a car dropping your driveway tomorrow a Tesla
01:00:13
Model y or a what a Mustang Maki and you can trade the panel gaps on the model y
01:00:18
for something from the Maki what do you pick what do you want from the Marquee anything
01:00:24
the software the performance the tires the sunroofs anything the seat and like it's it's pretty far down the list so I'm like yeah most people who are buying a model y or a model 3 or Model S it's
01:00:36
pretty low on the list but there are plenty of people whose pushback was simply I care about panel gaps I mean
01:00:43
they're individually care and a lot of people who work actually for Tesla did chime in say a surprising amount of
01:00:50
people actually refuse delivery or at least bring up the panel Gap I think the thing that also is is they're variable
01:00:55
the funny thing about it the worst panel Gap I've ever seen on a Tesla was the model y that they lent us for a video as
01:01:02
a review it was in terrible shape it was the hood felt like half an inch underneath the Gap to the front bumper it looked like it had an underbite and you could see it from every single angle
01:01:15
and I in the spoiler was half falling off the spoiler was yeah I don't even know if that's a panel Gap or just like
01:01:20
a glue issue but well there's also parts inside the car that were like the the headliner was kind of peeling off it was
01:01:26
just a poorly early model y so yeah it yeah that was one where like I kept thinking to myself if I wanted to buy a nice car the best part about a nice car is that like parking it taking 10 steps
01:01:38
and turning around and being like whoo I own that that's really cool I will I will only adjust your statement a little
01:01:44
bit expensive car yeah sorry like well you know my Impreza I wasn't doing that very
01:01:51
often the number one piece of feedback I heard was if I spent that much money on
01:01:56
a car it is very true I would care about panel caps that's the that's the main argument I think that's a solid argument
01:02:02
and I still think your argument Rings true to it as in there's so many other things in it that are better than other
01:02:09
cars in comparison but like if you were to buy an 80 000 Mercedes and saw that you'd be much more
01:02:15
upset for whatever reason this is why you're buying that car if I'm buying an 80 000 Mercedes I'm
01:02:23
probably looking for certain luxury things certain Comfort things and I don't care about performance as much so
01:02:29
I'm not mad when it's the slowest one how about this then all of the people though who like
01:02:36
to as well say like well Tesla is just as nice as a Mercedes or Tesla is just as nice to that they need to wake up and
01:02:43
realize that in the quality control aspect of things they're not dead it's worse okay it's just worse I'm just
01:02:48
saying like make your argument realistically yeah if you line up a bunch of cars for the same price I might
01:02:54
decide to buy a Land Rover because I want to off-road I'm not mad that it's slow and people are like well for eighty
01:03:01
thousand dollars it should be fast well that's your opinion on what you want in the car so again you line up your
01:03:06
priorities I'm giving my take Tesla customers don't care about panel gaps I'm giving that
01:03:12
a 24 000. not even logo I'll go forty thousand okay I think it's a bit hotter just because of the the fact that we had to explain it that much
01:03:24
in turn means it was hotter the hotness of the not yeah trying not to get dumped
01:03:30
on by everybody can I just say Ellis has like 1500 tabs open just now so as you guys are wrapping up he's like frantically switching times looking for this skull bill foreign
01:03:44
you know I'm constantly like researching and Googling and fact checking and stuff while we're doing this but it gets a little out ahead what was the scope
01:03:50
there's between like 25 and 25 to 40 000 habanero that no no no we're nowhere close that
01:03:57
puts this sort of in the cayenne pepper Thai Pepper or if you have enough of it it's hot no no I take that back Tabasco Cayenne as well that's pretty sure that that's us yeah the real aspect might be
01:04:09
what makes that hot as well because then people who do care about it feel like they don't it feels like that like the truth about or like the contrarian the
01:04:20
contrary intake of like well everyone else is lying to you and I'm gonna tell you the real deal about it so I think
01:04:26
that's what also creates the hotness yeah I guess that the longer and more detail take is people who choose to buy
01:04:33
Teslas aren't buying it for the build quality yeah that's the longer version of it
01:04:40
for sure uh the number one hottest take is that crypto is just gambling I agree 100 a shocking amount of people found massive offense to this now I
01:04:53
wouldn't say it's uh it's a majority I still think most people would agree and especially in the wake of like what happened with FTX and like what happens
01:04:59
with Bitcoin every couple of months like we kind of are on the same page that most of the time when people are talking
01:05:06
about crypto they're talking about investing to try to make money and that's to me mostly gambling because the
01:05:17
difference between investing in a company that is public that has value that makes products who you can assess
01:05:24
based on those products like if I see apple comes out with a new product and then I go that's a good product they're
01:05:30
offering more value to the world they're more valuable I will buy their stock their stock price goes up because of it
01:05:35
that makes sense that is not gambling to me it makes sense when someone buys crypto especially when it's not Bitcoin and there's just like a a rampant
01:05:47
speculation about the price might go up because who knows and it has doesn't really ever present
01:05:54
any utility other than it's a new crypto and it maybe has some new Fringe feature but no one's ever going to adopt it and
01:05:59
then the price goes up or down hey you should put your money in to me that is just a slot machine and I have no
01:06:06
problems leaning on that take pretty heavily because it just keeps getting proved true
01:06:13
um but a lot of people uh in the crypto space I think generally take issue with any negative sentiment about crypto because they want it to be the future I I will all talk like listen I don't I do
01:06:27
not know I don't want to tell that to get this one I'll be honest I A lot of times I feel like the stock market is
01:06:32
gambling as well I don't even but but I don't know I don't whatever yeah um I mean I have a 401k I guess but like other than that I don't invest really in anything which I'm sure a lot of people
01:06:43
tell me I'm a [ __ ] for but whatever um I think my only Dogecoin I do I do think crypto and we've talked about this with nfts also is like the gambling aspect of it is the the
01:06:56
most headline grabbing because somebody's people selling an nft for 69 million dollars is it a headline like
01:07:03
people making tons of money when they invested thirty dollars in Bitcoin in 2007 and now they're multi-millionaires
01:07:10
because of what it's done yeah is a headline there is stuff on the blockchain that's actually interesting and we've talked
01:07:16
about it before and just like fully there is some technology there that's really cool but I would argue the
01:07:21
majority of crypto stuff that gets flooded into my Twitter that I still haven't muted somehow is probably more
01:07:28
gambling aspect stuff so like listen there there's some stuff back there but I I most of the stuff I see feels like
01:07:35
gambling for sure it feels similar to the 5G take in some ways because there is a subset of people who are like I pay for things with Bitcoin I use crypto all
01:07:45
the time it has real application well I'm not sure I mean there are there are some companies who accept Bitcoin and and there are some bodegas in New York City that accept Bitcoin I am not one of
01:07:57
those people who has ever bought anything with Bitcoin ever I think that's most people and I think most
01:08:03
people who do buy Bitcoin never intend to buy anything with the Bitcoin most people who buy crypto ethereum Dogecoin
01:08:11
any other random coins are tokens that seem to have some random spur of the moment flash in the pan value are not
01:08:18
intending to use it for anything other than to sell it later to some sucker and make some money off of it
01:08:24
gambling it's in and it's insanely more prevalent right now with just all the rug pull schemes that happen and I don't
01:08:29
want to like discredit it really some of them the better ones but like there's so many things staining the atmosphere and
01:08:36
yeah and crypto in general is just as a permanent stain on it that I don't think you'll ever be able to shake whether
01:08:41
that's it's the Creator's fault of that or not it's happened even nfts like get looped into crypto because obviously what they're based on but like I love artists being able to be exactly properly credited for their work long
01:08:53
after they make the piece of art that also all makes a lot of sense I also think it would be cool if the deed of my house one day was actually an nft and
01:09:00
after I made that video I got a company that reached out and said you can actually do that now and I was like cool but I'm not gonna do it no I'm not gonna
01:09:07
do it no like I agree I I was thinking this morning like I don't know where my birth certificate is if it was on the
01:09:12
blockchain that would be way easier and that's the boring stuff in there somewhere in the future will happen
01:09:17
future Generations Maybe yeah so cool thanks for listening to the cancel the waveform host episode the comments are going to be spicy I have to
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give this one closer to like an eight yeah 80 000 on the uh the hot take on the spice scale because pure velocity that I was disagreed with if we're judging by veracity I think you've
01:09:38
broken the skill I'll go yeah yeah 90 90k yeah that's pretty good we're firmly in uh Thai pepper range nice yeah spicy spicy cool thank you sweet what is it
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ghost pepper out of curiosity like 300 000 or something uh 800 900 000 it can go up to a million damn yeah I didn't
01:09:58
have any takes that spicy it's hard to make a taste that yeah spicy Giannis is the best power forward
01:10:04
of all time I think that isn't I've said more insane things about basketball in this room yeah I think that's true it might be true my hottest take is Google's Google
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Chrome is going to be gone soon yep I say five years you said five years right Five Years glad I have a hard time
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seeing that's my hottest as what's taking over Internet Explorer it's not out yet whatever is not out
01:10:30
and we'll kill Chrome that is a spicy take someone's investing in something there's over there there's a lot of moms and dads who just fire up whatever their kids tell them which is just gonna take
01:10:40
forever to kill there's also a lot of moms and dads who don't have any available Ram that's fair
01:10:46
that's fair and with that we'll move on to trivia oh do you want to be read trivia time look at my camera usually I'm the Chevron
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oh so now we swapped boom all right what's the question I forgot oh right that's my job yeah so question number one what is the name
01:11:08
of the European Science Center where both the Higgs boson was discovered and the World Wide Web was invented and uh I'll accept the name of the center or the country it's in and if you want to
01:11:19
go for both I'll give you a little two point two okay just to make David even more behind you guys
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foreign [Music] this was very gut feeling I just wrote down what I felt in my gut I think I might have overcooked the questions this
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week a little bit so that second one is tough all right yeah I got an answer yeah oh I think you're right
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I think you're right on I think you're right on Switzerland I think I'm right on Switzerland I just
01:11:54
wrote A Large Hadron Collider same but I don't think that's the name of the science center same yeah and as I wrote
01:11:59
CERN because I think it's at or around CERN and I don't remember what circumstance that name sounds correct is that it so okay so it it's called CERN
01:12:10
okay not the Large Hadron right sorry I was pretty sure that's fine it is on the border of France and Switzerland okay so
01:12:17
I'll give you that each of you guys get one point okay that's fair together We Are Scientists together we overcome
01:12:24
David and On the Border that's solid CERN good job with that yeah the minute you turn that I was like yeah I was like yeah do you know what certain
01:12:36
stands for no I was trying to think I don't remember it's in French there's no reason you would know oh is e for European at all uh yeah but the French
01:12:43
word for European which is still kind of Europe yeah but yeah what is what does it stand for
01:12:53
here we go my girlfriend speaks pretty fluent French so if she ever listened to this I would never live it down so I'm just
01:13:05
gonna okay pass it on to you CERN y say you will be clear that is the center for European research of nuclear basically that makes sense
01:13:22
I'm glad this video is so scary comments will be spicy all right the second one I don't think I know the answer to all right question number two in 2017 Dara Kos roshahi became Uber's
01:13:38
second CEO what was he the CEO of before he he said change your answer I remember the first the first guy really messed up
01:13:52
yeah I do remember listening to that Uber pod that podcast about like the start of uber but I don't think they got
01:13:59
into the secondary aspects of it yeah this is like the founder that made it all the way to the
01:14:05
point where he became the villain yeah all right ready yeah turn Lyft felt like the obvious one but it like I don't know I wrote hotels.com
01:14:16
weirdly hotels.com is kind of close he was the CEO of Expedia okay if you were gonna say I I was thinking Airbnb first because it just felt similar and then Expedia Travel I was in the like
01:14:28
Hospitality range but I didn't want to go straight to lift of just like like uber just poaching the CEO of lifting
01:14:35
him swapping over feels like it would have been a bigger story yeah wow all right I'm proud of
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hotels.com pretty close no points no points but pretty close put up so fast Marquez Andrews tied at 15. David has nine let's give him eight okay David has
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eight David's very David's very competitive so we like to mess with him well that's been a we went over for sure but that's a long excellent episode of waveform
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