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Samsung S24 Leaks and Our Favorite Tech of 2023!

January 05, 2024 / 01:40:21

This episode covers the latest tech news, including updates on the Apple Watch ban, Samsung Unpacked, and favorite tech from 2023. The hosts, Marquez, Andrew, and David, discuss the recent announcement of the Xiaomi SU7 EV, a new electric vehicle inspired by the Porsche Taycan, and the implications of its ambitious specifications.

The episode begins with a lighthearted discussion about Tom Scott's retrospective video on his decade of weekly uploads. The hosts reflect on the challenges of maintaining high production quality over time and share their favorite Tom Scott videos.

Next, they provide an update on the Apple Watch ban, explaining how a software update may allow Apple to continue selling the device temporarily. They discuss the implications of this update and the potential need for hardware changes if the ITC does not approve the software.

The conversation shifts to Samsung Unpacked, where the hosts speculate about upcoming announcements and the potential for new AI features in Samsung devices. They express excitement about the integration of AI technology in smartphones and the future of Samsung's product lineup.

Finally, the hosts share their favorite tech from 2023, including the Rivian R1S, the Arc browser, and various gadgets that have improved their workflows. They wrap up with trivia and fun facts about crawfish, highlighting the episode's blend of tech insights and lighthearted banter.

TL;DR

The hosts discuss tech news, Apple Watch updates, Samsung Unpacked, and favorite gadgets from 2023.

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size of the of the original size or of
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the new size of the new size I think
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double double dou how does anything get
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that big maybe microscopic got but even
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organism and then by the end of its life
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it had
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32,768 C that makes sense it's 1 cm
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across when it's moles for the first
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time then it's 32
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[Music]
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croad all right what is up people of the
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internet welcome back to another episode
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of the way for podcast it's 2024 we're
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your hosts I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and
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I'm David and uh kicking off this New
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Year actually Ellis and Adam are both at
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the same time on welld deserved just
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kidding just kidding they are taking
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breaks so we have new producer in the
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house today Mariah on the board that's a
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she's rubbing her hands together like
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she's got devious plans she's got too
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much she's learned the board already
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ready but I don't know if you're ready a
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lot of power a lot of power over there
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but uh yeah we we're back to all the
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tech news catching up to everything
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there was a obviously a fun show for the
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end of last year but now there's a bunch
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of news that we got to catch up on a
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little bit so we have an update on the
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Apple watch ban the car that got
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announced which I have thoughts about
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some of the announcements uh Samsung
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unpacked is also in it's it's right in
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front of us yeah it's about it's about
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to kick off the year like CES and
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unpacked we know it's happening and we
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also want to wrap up with uh some of our
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favorite tech from last year yeah we got
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some some individual picks none of us
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know each other's picks either yeah we
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hit it so there may be some hot takes I
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don't know what you guys picked and
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possibly some overlap possibly that's a
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good point so we'll get there but before
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we start uh we have to talk about a
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video that I'm sure we've all watched uh
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Tom Scott who we've had on the podcast
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before released a video uh saying after
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10 years it's time to stop making videos
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that's the title of this video it's more
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of a retrospective on his last 10 years
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of not missing a single day of weekly
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uploads which I just want to say that's
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a lot harder than you think insane like
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it sounds pretty hard but it's even
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harder than you think to do every single
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week and especially the the quality of
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videos that he gets to do and some of
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fun stuff that he produces I think you
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described that well it is very hard when
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you think about it and it is still
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harder than what you think about it yeah
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he said something in that video that I
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resonated a lot with which is you you
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sometimes you get to weeks where you
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don't really have much and you kind of
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think you might have to put out filler
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but you can't uh make worse production
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quality than you usually do you only you
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only have to go up you only have the
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ability to go up because the audience is
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used to better and better stuff so he
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just kept topping himself over and over
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again for 10 years which is pretty
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impressive yeah you know what's crazy
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about Tom Scott you know that red shirt
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that he wears mhm so he only wears that
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red shirt which is crazy I I went back
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in his discography and just like saw
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everything all of his videos he's always
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wearing that red shirt and that gray
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hoodie too is like his maybe it's a
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little chili outside I'll wear the
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hoodie the ex that exact red shirt my
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grandpa always used to wear and he gave
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me when he died and I wore that for like
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three years like exact same one exact
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same one but it was like before Tom
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Scott started making videos when I was a
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kid I used it as like a night before Tom
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Scott made it cool yeah we were cool I
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was a Fruit of the Loom red shirt
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hipster how do you know that it's the
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same yeah it's the same I wore that
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shirt for like 3 years you just looked
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at it and you knew I knew Tom if you're
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listening Thief send me your shirt
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you're done making
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videos give away the shirt but shout out
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to Tom if you haven't watched his videos
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If you also haven't watched him
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absolutely destroy the alphabet typing
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test which was one of most impressive
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things he's still won on our leaderboard
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right now by like a full second spoiler
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alert he he crushed it and so you should
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watch that episode yeah if only to see
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that he also still will make videos he
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has other channels and I think he said
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he will come back to his eventually but
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just not keeping that he's taking a
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break and not doing the weekly upload
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stuff anymore yeah he's going to still
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make videos he's just not forcing
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himself to make videos he has a fun
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podcast too that I was on where it's
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sort of like a game show type thing yeah
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I've listened to it before so if you
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enjoy our game show moments you might
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enjoy that one too um I thought it would
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be fun cuz he has so many videos and I
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know we all watch them if we all named
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our favorite one from him just in case
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somebody out there doesn't watch him and
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wants a good idea for one okay yeah do
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you want to go first sure since Marquez
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is obviously searching now I'm going on
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right
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now uh he has a video called this video
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has X views but the X updates every time
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there's a view basically which crazy uh
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it currently has over 70 million views
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so if you go on YouTube and search Tom
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Scott this video has X views it'll show
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up and it'll just be updated with the
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current view count yeah and it's funny
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he uh he wrote some code basically that
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just consistently updates it and in the
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video he's like this will probably break
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around like 3 million views or so and it
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just never broke it's just still going
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which is amazing um so I think I think
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that was pretty cool it was it was
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pretty early on into like YouTube giving
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public features being able to do stuff
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and uh it's cool that YouTube never like
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saw that and then stopped it from being
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able to do that and actually now YouTube
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does live view counts so when you're
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watching a video The Views literally
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tick up so yeah like that one that's
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definitely been copied since then as
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well I've seen multiple ones of like
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this get this video needs this many or
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like something like that that's like
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live reacting to it but yeah yeah it's a
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good one I have one that I'll always
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remember because it's just like his
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videos are awesome because there these
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little tiny pieces of information that
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are fun to like throw out there he has
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one called um I visited Yellowstone zone
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of death which is okay a very short
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video and essentially because of the the
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way the sixth amendment is worded in the
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US where if you are in trial for being
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accused of a crime you need an impartial
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jury of the state and District because
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Yellowstone is a federal district and
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one of the only Federal districts that
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crosses state lines there's this like
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one M strip in Idaho where federally
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it's considered the Yellowstone district
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and by state it's considered Idaho and
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there are no people who live there so
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you technically couldn't get a jury to
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have a trial if you committed a crime
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there so why doesn't everyone kill
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everyone I'm sure I'm sure if it
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actually went to court it would probably
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be they would find a way to do it but
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it's very funny because he went there
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and like I think in the description of
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the video he's like um a car did drive
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by and I was very nervous when it
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happened and he it's like a six-minute
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video and he was in and out as fast as
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possible well now I know where to bury a
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body perfect well you have to commit the
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crime there as well oh I could do that
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well there is no cops so I guess uh
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anyone ever invites you there do not
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go um I do have one that I remember and
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this was this one's a much older one
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it's 6 years old but uh there are a
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couple of these in the world but certain
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roads where when you drive on them the
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ridges in the road create music I
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remember this video and he made yeah he
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made a video about uh when that's in
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California and how it kind of sounds
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terrible because if you drive at the
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wrong speed it's out of speed it just
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doesn't it's not it's not it doesn't
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work very well yeah but it's still cool
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that it's a thing right I thought that
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was F I feel like that's cool that it's
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a thing when you if you drive on that
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road once if that happens to be the
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commute I mean it be fun I don't know is
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it only the sides in the rumble ship or
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it's it's only on the sides right okay
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so you have to purposely go off the road
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a little bit decide to do it okay cool
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that's fun do you have one Mariah did
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you know we were going fan favorite is
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the Tom Scott vape pen clip
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highlight of him choking on the vape pen
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I'll send it if you haven't seen it
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choking on you never SE it's so fun 15
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seconds of yeah it's just him coughing
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what's the video again it doesn't matter
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what the video is don't even know yeah
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that is a thing that that also happened
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and was memed relentlessly honestly I
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also give him a lot of credit for
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filming most of his videos
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outside yes because that's just a
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nightmare with like wind and light and
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the fact that he does most of them
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outside is a big and we talked about it
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on the podcast but I think he's the best
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teleprompter reader I've ever seen for
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real like ever yeah there was a great
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snippet of the podcast where he talked
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about that where he just like got really
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good at it cuz you always wonder like
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there there's all these videos where
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he's just standing on a beach and he's
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just walking towards you on the beach
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and he talks for like 20 minutes and
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you're just like how yeah how did you do
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this and he he talked about it in a pod
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so go watch that but basically he writes
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in the same style that he talks so
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because he writes everything he's able
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to just talk naturally in a way that
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feels like he's just talking yeah it's
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really good it's hard to do it's hard to
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do when I write scripts I definitely
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like I go back over it and speak them
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out and then change the words to make it
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sound more like I'm actually talking
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yeah yeah if you don't know Tom Scott go
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watch his channel and some heavy sh
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there's a lot of stuff when you publish
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every week you just kind of cover this
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insanely broad swath of topics and he
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covers it very well but yeah all right
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so we have an update yet again because
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this is the waveform update podcast
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where things happen and then they
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change yeah it is an unfortunate truth
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that we record on Wednesdays and things
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happen in between Wednesday and
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Wednesday so we have an update on the
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Apple watch band yeah uh the last time
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we talked about this was two weeks ago
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because last week we had pre-recorded
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the uh end of the year episode so that
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we could take a week off for Christmas
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but basically at uh the last episode
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where we talked about this the Apple
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watch was about to get banned um it did
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very temporarily uh they were actually
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off sale online starting on December
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21st and they were out of stores
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starting on December 26th I heard it was
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a lot of fun for employees to like go
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through all the stores and take them off
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the shelves and off of the display
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tables and put them back yeah and I
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hadn't thought of it that they have to
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do that right around Christmas which is
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like hundreds of people buying last
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minute gifts at the Apple store so yeah
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Kudos shout out to all the Apple retail
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employees out there that probably had a
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rough week I hope you're relaxing now
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yeah no no so the update basically is
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that they actually did take it off sale
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for a little bit but then uh Apple
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basically made a software update that
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they think will be able to get around
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the patent infringement so they
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submitted that software update to the
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International Trade Commission to see if
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that was enough to get around um and in
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the interim period they are now allowed
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to sell the Apple watch again until
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January 12th when the ITC decides
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whether or not that software update was
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enough uh if it's not back off sale
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they're going to have to change out a
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hardware piece it's probably going to
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take a long time to do that um Apple
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probably has a pretty quick supply chain
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considering it's apple and a huge amount
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of their wearable sales as Apple watch
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yeah but uh yeah part of me would want
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to think like oh well they'll just
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discontinue it till the series 10 but
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the series 10 is definitely being made
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already like yeah so that's that's a
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great Point actually that's a very big
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problem a very Tim Cook thing thing like
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he's a supply chain Guy this is a very
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supply chain annoying problem to have
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for that company so they're probably
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trying to brainstorm way I mean I'm sure
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they've been thinking about this but now
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they need to figure out a way to
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continue to sell watches until the new
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watch comes out but not make it like too
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much of an announcement because you
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don't want to have an announcement for a
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new watch that's on sale right before
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the new new watch is on sale so there's
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there's question marks there the
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software update thing would definitely
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be the most idealistic thing for them
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because then they could just update all
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the series 10s that they're making right
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now is that do we is that pushed that
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software update or they just submitted
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it they submitted it to the ITC to see
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if it's like enough mimo still thinks
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that they need a hardware change
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obviously do you think they're just
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disabling the blood oxygen features and
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like call it in a day I don't I don't
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think they'll do that so last time when
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we did talk about that I actually got a
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lot of people I said I thought blood
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oxygen was fairly irrelevant and a lot
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of people told me what they really liked
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it for and apparently sleep apnea and
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sleeping and how you're breathing when
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you're sleeping it does a good job at at
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telling if you have a hard time during
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that and it helped people diagnose sleep
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AP that is actually cool and pretty damn
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common we got a lot of comments saying
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like this is actually way more helpful
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than you guys think which is surprising
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um it's interesting seeing like a bunch
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of people in the real world who are
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saying it is and then us who's saying it
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not so thank you for letting us know if
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it's useful to you yeah there's
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definitely going to be people that it's
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useful for it might be a vocal minority
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thing where it's it's a small fraction
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of people but the people who do find it
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useful really like like it so they're
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vocal about it totally makes sense uh
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but yeah Apple's going to try to keep it
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in there cuz that's it's a feature that
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they've advertised and talked about and
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means a lot so yeah I think I've come to
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my own conclusion that I find it hard to
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not see just Massimo that's their name
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getting a big old check soon from Apple
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yeah they say they' reached out to Apple
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and just offered to have them pay them
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and that Apple never replied because I
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think Apple just doesn't want to lose
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they got a little bit of Leverage now
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lot of Leverage that's going to be a fat
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check if that's what happens it's funny
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cuz them you could see why they wouldn't
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want to do it because if if one company
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successfully does it and gets a check
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then every other company's like huh I
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wonder what we can get a check for so
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they just want to not have it work but
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now that they've let it get this far
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masimo has a ton of we yeah because
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masimo took the very long process of
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getting to this point of having lots of
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governing bodies agree with them and
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yeah I mean that's just wild to force
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Apple to take an Apple Watch off the
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shelves like that is gigantic I know
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there's so many lawsuits against apple
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and nothing ever happens so yeah so
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unfortunately uh for you guys the pause
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lasts until exactly one week from today
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next Friday so next week we probably
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still won't have an update unless unless
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they figure it out before Friday but I
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think they're going to figure it out on
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Friday so in two weeks you'll probably
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know uh whether or not the Apple watch
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is still for sale or not um but that's
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the update for now and we try to do our
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best to keep you as up toate as we can
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yeah but time moves so moves quick moves
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quick faster than we edit moves quick so
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we'll keep our eye on it with that let's
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uh let's take it to a quick trivia and
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AD break oh Mariah was ready for that
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trivia on the trigger for that
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oneck all right CES is right around the
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corner ladies and gentlemen it's
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happening um the Consumer Electronics
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Show is known for having some crazy
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inventions and Tech products but CES is
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also known for destroying your inbox
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with PR emails yes which of these
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products is not a real product that I've
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received an email about oh God so option
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A is Flappy and intelligent cat door
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flap for your door definitely real um
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option b is Willow a smart wooden swing
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set that generates electricity for your
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backyard that's hold it for later hold
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it for later sorry uh option C Jedi
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which is a medical delivery drone for
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hospitals and option D which is saber a
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smart pepper spray
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device save your thoughts forat I just
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want to say s is the only time where we
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can do name the fake one versus name the
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real one cuz normally Ellis has to make
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three fake ones but CS is so wild that
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that's what we can do I love it it's a
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lot I have c s
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TSD from going to CS2 I get it I I get
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it it works well we'll think about those
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for a little bit answers will be at the
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end as usual yeah we'll be right
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back all right welcome back we got to
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talk about unpacked Samsung unpacked is
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coming up so we already know CES starts
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off the year and I think for a lot of
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people that's the bookend for the tech
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cycle for the entire year CES at the
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beginning end of the year stuff for the
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end of the
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year but as someone who's I'll call it
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extremely jaded uh I've stopped paying
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as much attention to CES I kind of still
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hope we see cool stuff at CES yeah but I
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ultimately think there's like a couple
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Diamonds in the Rough but then we we
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start to get the Heavy Hitters moving
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out of CES into their own events I think
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trade shows overall are kind of losing
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interest like uh E3 is not even
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happening anymore it's officially dead
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mwc is also like kind quiet now yeah so
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I'm I'm going to watch it but I think
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for me it's becoming the Samsung event
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at the beginning of the year that book
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ends the year for me and so unpacked we
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have an announcement date it is well let
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me check I January 17th 17th thank you
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which also real quick on date does this
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feel like it gets pushed a week earlier
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and earlier when is it it's going to be
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before CES soon enough I feel like as
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long as it doesn't move before New
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Year's it's fine I that's what I was
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going to say though at what point does
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this Notch just move till December it
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moves forward constantly I think they
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always want to be like one of the first
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ones out of the gate with the new
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Snapdragon chipset and that's like why
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they're doing that yeah I looked last
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year was February 9th I believe but I I
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know it's been in January before so
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maybe 2022 had it but yeah I just feel
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like it is creeping closer and closer no
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February yeah okay yeah they just went
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two weeks sooner this year sick so we're
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creeping up earlier into the year but
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we're basically expecting some of the
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usual suspects S2 24 s24 plus s24 Ultra
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and then there was this announcement or
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a sort of a teaser that they posted that
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said Samsung AI MH and I don't love or
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hate this like I I kind of am looking
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forward to a lot of interesting AI
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things in 2024 we've had a lot of them
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in the past year or two but Samsung AI
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what does that mean Bixby stuff is that
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is that what that isan that would be
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interesting it would be I think that's a
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good word yeah interesting what do you
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think is interesting that Samsung's
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doing AI or do you think bixby's coming
00:19:02
back well I think bixby's dead I think
00:19:05
this is the official death of Bixby yeah
00:19:07
well it could be a rebranding moment for
00:19:09
Bixby it could be a total revamp for
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like Bixby is this new multimodal focus
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of the phones or it could be some
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totally new Samsung Ai and they just
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dropped the Bixby name and it's just
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Samsung AI they could be pulling a Mr
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Peanut where they killed Mr Peanut and
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then they brought they bigger and better
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as a baby Bixby interesting yeah baby
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Groot type stuff I don't know I'm I'm
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curious I do think the AI thing will be
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very heavy focused for the entire year
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Samsung and Google have been like
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weirdly tight knit and close for the
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last like three years too so like
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apparently assistant on like Bard with
00:19:47
the Google Assistant with Bard is
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launching fairly soon there's there was
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a bunch of rumors that were going out
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this week about it launching in the like
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the next couple weeks or months so maybe
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they like launch it on a Galaxy Device
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oh yeah I mean that' be cool but they're
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calling it Samsung AI I Galaxy AI is
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what they called it Galaxy AI I think
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that's what it's called in the teaser
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yeah so I would yeah galaxy AI is coming
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I really don't know what that means
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that's what I think it's that's why I
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think Bixby is gone I think this is the
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new name let's rank this from worst
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possibilities to best possibilities
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worst possibility is it's a slight bump
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to Bixby as it already exists and it's
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annoyingly bad no there's a worse
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possibility but go ahead
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okay there's
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a um but I think optimistically Galaxy
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AI is a giant focus on software features
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that have ai behind them powering them
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on the phones and that can uniquely
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differentiate some of the things on this
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phone from other phones that come out do
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you have ideas in my eyes worst case
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scenario is we never get the Bixby
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speaker because now BX is dead still had
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hopes for it oh the Galaxy home
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technically it was called the Galaxy the
00:21:04
Galaxy home AI now but um I think I
00:21:07
think Bixby is gone completely um andit
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that's bad news is that the best case
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scenario the worst scenar for the the
00:21:15
user experience probably best case um
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but yeah now yeah what is your okay so
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my my best case scenario is that they
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just lowkey integrate thing like
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Transformer models in to everything like
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apple the only the only times they've
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ever really mentioned AI is when they
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say like Transformers now are powering
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the keyboard I would love if like if
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Samsung keyboard got updated with like a
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Transformer architecture in the
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background if it was like lowkey stuff
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that would be great we know it's not
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going to be lowkey stuff this
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announcement suggests not lowkey yeah my
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worst case scenario okay is that they're
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going to have like an on device uh image
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generator and
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you know how they have the uh Samsung
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like memojis what do they call it yeah
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there's a name for it there's too many
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there it's either an emoji or or bit
00:22:07
mimoji oh there's too many yeah they're
00:22:09
probably going to like have some sort of
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AI mimoji thing just say Emoji but my my
00:22:17
best guess is that they're going to have
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some random like image AI image
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generator for some reason cuz uh
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Qualcomm has been like consistently like
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putting out tests of how quickly they
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can make an image on device right like
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this is this is going to be a lot of the
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features of the phone will be dependent
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on what Snapdragon 8 gen 3 focuses on so
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I assume if we already had the the
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Snapdragon Summit already they've talked
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about okay yes the the main chips the
00:22:44
main processors are more powerful it's
00:22:46
more efficient yes but now we have all
00:22:47
these new cores and capabilities for on
00:22:49
device AI stuff yeah so now it's up to
00:22:52
every OEM to take advantage of those to
00:22:54
differentiate their phone o okay we're
00:22:56
Samsung we're GNA have some crazy on
00:22:59
device image generation or some large
00:23:02
language model that does cool stuff with
00:23:04
keyboard something like that they'll
00:23:05
probably have like a wallpaper generator
00:23:08
yeah yeah yeah that's I think that's
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kind of cooline it's cool it's flashy
00:23:12
for the presentation the thing that
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would be not flashy that I wish it would
00:23:16
do and maybe other phones did it and I
00:23:18
feel like we talked about this with like
00:23:19
an Amazon fire stick or something but
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just like a chatbot that helps you with
00:23:24
just like settings and things that are
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going on with your phone like the
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setting search tab is kind of a pain in
00:23:29
the ass sometimes when you don't name
00:23:31
something exactly what it is but like
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Contex aware yeah if it was context
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aware and could help you actually change
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settings and stuff on your phone
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especially for people who don't know
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about phones very much it would help way
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more than a Verizon store because a lot
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of those people have no idea what
00:23:45
they're talking about true um and it
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would help all of us from when our um
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Family calls us to help with their phone
00:23:53
which is very hard to do when they're
00:23:54
talking on that phone and you have to
00:23:56
teach them how to do something oh good
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point yeah so like I would love for just
00:23:59
to open the settings tab and be like why
00:24:01
are my pictures blurry or what is this
00:24:04
but yeah it'll probably be flashy stuff
00:24:06
like camera camer photo editing maybe I
00:24:09
think wallpapers Is AO photo editing I
00:24:11
think is like the most obvious Magic
00:24:13
Eraser or something generative Phill I
00:24:16
don't even know what Google calls all
00:24:17
this stuff yeah generative fill or like
00:24:19
moving stuff magic magic editor Magic
00:24:21
Eraser magic magic magic magic magic
00:24:24
they'll call it Samsung AI magic
00:24:26
something I think worst case scenario
00:24:28
would be if Samsung created a clippy
00:24:31
like creature that was Bixby that was
00:24:33
just chilling in the bottom of your
00:24:35
phone all the time that's
00:24:37
best that's game changer for me yeah I
00:24:40
want a little Emoji a little what would
00:24:42
Bixby look like clippy 100% is the one
00:24:46
that would look like clippy I'm I'm
00:24:48
going like greenish with a clown nose
00:24:51
like if the pillsberry Doughboy was
00:24:53
green and an alien that's my are you
00:24:56
going to ask I'm going to ask chbt to
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make a photo of clippy of clippy or of
00:25:01
sorry Bixby okay while you're on that
00:25:03
there were uh some very minor leaks of
00:25:08
possible s24 features yeah one of them
00:25:11
was just a straight up ad that was on
00:25:12
like a like a counter in some retail
00:25:15
store that looked like it was the s24
00:25:16
ultra and it looks basically just like
00:25:18
the s23 ultra but silver maybe a
00:25:21
titanium rail yeah so from the back it
00:25:23
looks exactly the same as the s23 ultra
00:25:25
there is a rumor that it might have a
00:25:27
totally flat front which I'd be happy
00:25:29
about I think that would be awesome
00:25:30
because they've been getting slightly
00:25:31
more flat every year they had like
00:25:34
peeled over the edges for S21 Ultra and
00:25:36
then they mostly flattened it for s22
00:25:38
and s23 and they could go the only phone
00:25:41
that's really actually fully flat is the
00:25:43
iPhone right now like they they just go
00:25:44
straight 90 degrees on the corners I'd
00:25:47
be into a flat phones the um do you
00:25:50
remember the s or the note 20 the
00:25:53
regular one that was flat right note 20
00:25:57
remember two versions and the note 20
00:26:00
was like everyone loved the form factor
00:26:02
and everything except that the specs
00:26:03
were way worse the 20 was the plastic
00:26:05
one right I think so it was the cheaper
00:26:07
version of the two glastic yes I think
00:26:11
oh no maybe that wasn't totally flat the
00:26:14
huge bezel the ultra had Curve screen
00:26:17
surprised I did that the ultra had curve
00:26:19
curve for sure I just remember everyone
00:26:21
liking the size and the form factor of
00:26:23
the note 20 but the specs were so much
00:26:25
worse compared to the note and when you
00:26:27
buy a note you kind of want that but um
00:26:29
I don't know I think totally flat the
00:26:30
other rumor though I do like about the
00:26:32
s24 and s24 plus versions are
00:26:35
supposively they're flattening the edges
00:26:38
kind of like the um iPhone 11 to iPhone
00:26:41
12 where we had rounded edges versus
00:26:42
flat edges on the side of it the rails I
00:26:46
think that would be awesome yeah I
00:26:49
honestly I love my zen phone the ultra
00:26:52
wide camera has left some to be desired
00:26:56
and I want a case for it and just
00:26:58
there's not a lot of case options s24
00:27:02
regular size there's going to be way
00:27:04
more accessories an extra triple camera
00:27:07
I might go to the s24 I on that though I
00:27:10
hate Samsung we'll see what happens it's
00:27:12
been a long time since I've used I every
00:27:15
time I daily a Samsung phone I do have
00:27:17
to spend extra time making it usable
00:27:20
software wise just for my own taste yeah
00:27:23
I think I use Nova Launcher on my Note 8
00:27:25
at least is that around I don't I know
00:27:28
weirdly enough though I apparently never
00:27:30
took it out of the app drawer on my
00:27:31
phone and it's kept moving and I just
00:27:34
recently took it off my zen phone cuz
00:27:35
it's moved so many phones since then
00:27:38
like I've never opened it but it's just
00:27:39
been sitting there and you can launch it
00:27:41
from that icon and it'll jump into the
00:27:42
launcher yeah I never I never opened it
00:27:45
again so I just recently got rid of it
00:27:47
maybe I'll have to bring it back if I go
00:27:48
that's 24 rout but all I'm kind of
00:27:50
excited low key yeah well we got some
00:27:53
car stuff to talk about
00:27:55
too can I even call this a car or this
00:27:58
just it's a it's totally a car it's a
00:28:01
car just made by a phone SL everything
00:28:03
else you could also call it Vapor but
00:28:05
let's call it car for now let's try it
00:28:07
okay so XI they actually have one though
00:28:10
there's one that's well you can make one
00:28:13
everyone can make one Sony made a car
00:28:15
yeah once yeah so okay xiaomi announced
00:28:18
the su7 EV their first car it is fully
00:28:22
electric it has all kinds of inspiration
00:28:25
from the Porsche tyan I mean if you see
00:28:27
photo of this thing yeah 75% of it looks
00:28:30
like a Porsche tyan and there's some
00:28:32
some slight adaptations for things like
00:28:35
headlights and and handles but it it
00:28:37
looks pretty good that's the one car it
00:28:39
looks the most like which is a good
00:28:40
looking car yeah can if you read that
00:28:42
name though the su7 EV yeah it basically
00:28:46
has SUV in the title and I'm immediately
00:28:49
thinking SUV it's not an SUV it's very
00:28:51
much a sedan it looks good it looks
00:28:53
really good uh so yeah I think the
00:28:55
highlight of it is the design I'm going
00:28:57
to read the specs but I'm going to
00:29:00
careful I think the highlights the specs
00:29:01
well that's what I was going to say is
00:29:03
I'm going to be careful to say that I
00:29:04
don't believe that most of these specs
00:29:07
will actually happen so it is a
00:29:09
highlight that they're trying this but I
00:29:12
I'll read the specs let me just let me
00:29:14
know what you think okay up to 35,000
00:29:17
RPM Motor 668
00:29:20
horsepower uh up to 800 kilm of range so
00:29:26
that's about 500 500 miles of range but
00:29:31
wait but
00:29:33
also a long range version that will ship
00:29:36
later with 1,200 km of range 750 mil of
00:29:42
range cool I wish okay I'll keep going
00:29:46
800 volt architecture so it can charge
00:29:48
137 mil in 5 minutes or you can add 37
00:29:52
mil and 15 minutes of charging not sure
00:29:55
what charger uh hyper OS so they have
00:29:58
the software that matches the xiaomi
00:30:00
smartphones and then all the design
00:30:02
stuff that I'm sure you're seeing in the
00:30:04
video version of this podcast do we
00:30:06
think this car achieves a single one of
00:30:10
these specs I think all of these or well
00:30:14
not all of them two of them are very
00:30:15
closely connected and I don't think the
00:30:18
charging is as absurd if you can believe
00:30:21
the range because 3177 M 15 minutes is a
00:30:25
percentage of the battery in Peak
00:30:27
charging so if the battery is actually
00:30:30
750 mil that seems totally plausible but
00:30:34
that would still imply you need to
00:30:36
charge cuz we don't have a do we have a
00:30:39
kilowatt hour size of the battery that
00:30:40
they're promising I think they did have
00:30:41
one I think it was like only like 13 it
00:30:44
was not even that big oh let me see if
00:30:46
they okay so maybe I'm wrong there but
00:30:48
when I first see yes 15 minutes 3177
00:30:51
miles sounds crazy but to a battery
00:30:54
that's so big if you can keep Peak
00:30:56
charging for longer because logically
00:30:58
that checks out there this is only a
00:31:01
73.6 for the standard and 101 for the
00:31:05
long range so the same size as a Tesla
00:31:08
Model 3 Model S yeah the 73 or the 100
00:31:11
73 is a Tesla Model 3 more or less 100
00:31:14
there are cars out mil range there are
00:31:16
cars out there with 100 Kow hour battery
00:31:18
packs Model S the model S and what's the
00:31:20
range on that 47 on a good day 350 I
00:31:25
think they claim the long range to go
00:31:26
about 400 yeah okay so this one's
00:31:30
claiming they're claiming
00:31:33
750 yeah insane 750 like I at least if
00:31:37
they claimed like a reasonable range I
00:31:39
might think that this car might exist
00:31:41
but because they went straight to 700
00:31:43
miles of range I now don't think this
00:31:45
car will ever exist that's I didn't
00:31:47
realize the battery pack comparison of
00:31:48
it I thought they're just kind of going
00:31:50
crazy is xiaomi's test track just 700
00:31:53
miles of
00:31:55
downhill it's actually gaining battery
00:31:57
the entire time it's just a wild claim
00:32:00
it's supposed to have a self-driving
00:32:02
there was a video out there that showed
00:32:04
it parking in a parking structure where
00:32:06
it just like Goes Around in Circles a
00:32:08
bunch and then it like it almost hits a
00:32:10
car but then it backs up and the other
00:32:12
car goes around it and then it it parks
00:32:14
in the most like inconvenient parking
00:32:15
space possible that's the most
00:32:16
believable thing about the car yeah the
00:32:18
fact that it will go park itself in a
00:32:20
garage yeah you know they say it might
00:32:22
be 2024 when this comes out we're we're
00:32:24
living in the year 2024 I don't I mean I
00:32:28
have to take it somewhat seriously
00:32:29
because it's xiaomi and they are really
00:32:31
announcing it and this isn't CES like
00:32:33
this is an announcement of a car by
00:32:35
itself yeah if it by the way if you see
00:32:38
a new car announced at CES I'm just
00:32:40
going to tell you to confidently assume
00:32:42
that that car is never coming out don't
00:32:44
don't assume that you will ever be able
00:32:46
to buy that car if they had announced
00:32:48
this at CES we'd be like it's definitely
00:32:50
not yeah that would be confirmation
00:32:51
that's all the confirmation I need that
00:32:52
this car is never coming out because
00:32:54
it's its own event outside of CES I have
00:32:56
to go all right well yeah I guess it's
00:32:58
sh me doing a thing yeah I was just
00:33:00
looking at old photos and I saw what
00:33:03
what was it called the Nissan
00:33:05
MX I or something from 2020 yeah yeah
00:33:10
it's a cool looking car but a super
00:33:11
concept when you go to CES and the seats
00:33:14
are like lighting up and there's no
00:33:15
steering
00:33:17
wheel enjoy the 10
00:33:20
seconds it's like 75% of the cars there
00:33:22
was a BMW once that we sat in and it was
00:33:27
so protot might be that when marar tried
00:33:28
to scoot through the back seat they were
00:33:31
like wait wait wait can you step out and
00:33:33
come to the other side of the door the
00:33:35
middle of that se's cardboard yeah it
00:33:37
just it'll collapse collapse yeah so
00:33:39
like if this was just a random EV
00:33:41
startup that announced these I'd be like
00:33:42
it's definitely not coming out zero that
00:33:44
would be 0% but xiaomi makes like
00:33:46
everything which is why it's just above
00:33:48
zero but they actually make every yeah I
00:33:51
mean yeah just above zero cuz if you if
00:33:53
you'd ask me what company on planet
00:33:54
Earth has the best opportunity to show
00:33:56
up out of nowhere and ship an EV with
00:33:59
750 m of range on a 100 KW battery
00:34:03
xiaomi would be nowhere near the top of
00:34:04
the list I would think okay who has the
00:34:06
best most advanced Battery tech and
00:34:08
drivetrains and efficiency we're talking
00:34:10
about lucid Tesla the absolute the the
00:34:14
top stuff in in EV world and xiaomi's
00:34:17
never shipped a car so I mean they're
00:34:20
they're confidently putting models of
00:34:22
this car in xiaomi stores which is easy
00:34:25
to do you can put a model car in a store
00:34:27
store that's super super simple but I
00:34:29
just don't believe that it will actually
00:34:31
have those specs it is interesting
00:34:33
though like David was saying that the
00:34:35
fact that it's xiaoi and it's a big
00:34:36
company and announcing this has way more
00:34:38
risk for a large company that already
00:34:41
has other products they have to worry
00:34:42
about like if you just told me these
00:34:44
anev coming out with these specs I'd be
00:34:46
like all right it's a pickup truck from
00:34:48
a company I've never heard of that 300
00:34:50
Kow hour battery yeah and of and the
00:34:53
first thing on the website is a reserve
00:34:55
your pay as $300 to reserve you
00:34:58
buy someon next to it um but the fact
00:35:01
that a jiai does change this and like
00:35:03
you said a bit more hopeful I think I'm
00:35:06
a tad more hopeful than you I don't see
00:35:09
it hitting those specs that's a w like
00:35:12
750 miles out of nowhere but I trust
00:35:17
xiaoi doing it more than the like random
00:35:20
startup getting billions of dollars from
00:35:22
investment funds like coming out of
00:35:25
nowhere so if you had to assign a
00:35:27
percent chance you think of this car
00:35:29
actually delivering with let's say 500
00:35:31
mil yeah yeah let's say the standard
00:35:34
version The 500 Mile version what
00:35:37
percent chance do you give this exact
00:35:39
card does it have to be 2024 or just
00:35:41
percent chance it comes
00:35:42
out that it comes out in the next two
00:35:45
years cuz this is China they they they
00:35:48
develop Battery tech very quickly they
00:35:50
do they ship the craziest fastest
00:35:51
charging phones ever yeah yeah exactly
00:35:54
so is that what's going to happen are we
00:35:55
just going to get mind-blowingly fast
00:35:57
charging but you can't get uned
00:35:59
States and they're not using they're
00:36:01
definitely not using
00:36:02
nacs right I give this 15% chance 15
00:36:06
that's actually more than I thought say
00:36:08
that's the same percent um of Andrew's
00:36:12
diet think about it Mak you think so 15%
00:36:16
that it hits 500 miles in the next two
00:36:18
years yeah next two years 15% of my diet
00:36:21
is cha played but I you've been studying
00:36:24
that board I appreciate it yeah I mean
00:36:27
it's hard to say like they haven't given
00:36:29
a price or release date yet right they
00:36:33
said 2024 I think this is regardless of
00:36:35
price they could have said 60 Grand they
00:36:37
could have said 600 Grand I still don't
00:36:38
think you can give a 73 Kow hour battery
00:36:41
5 range I don't think EV companies have
00:36:43
straight away from being extremely
00:36:45
expensive and still aren't hitting these
00:36:47
numbers so xiaomi I don't think price
00:36:50
has to do with it they also haven't said
00:36:52
where they're going to sell it which is
00:36:53
sad they probably won't sell it in the
00:36:55
US probably not yeah possibly e either
00:36:58
way unless we're missing some really
00:37:01
long range electric
00:37:03
vehicle I'm going to go 25% and say I'm
00:37:06
being optimistic about it I'm goingon to
00:37:08
say
00:37:09
30 yeah Price is Right rules Price is
00:37:11
Right rules I'm going to give you guys
00:37:13
some context um the most efficient Lucid
00:37:16
just from me Googling it the entry level
00:37:18
Lucid air pure has a claimed 46 mile
00:37:23
range on an 88 KW hour battery m and the
00:37:28
EV everyone keeps telling me to check
00:37:30
out which has solar panels on it has
00:37:33
three wheels and I also don't think
00:37:35
will'll ever ship but they talk about it
00:37:37
a lot is the aptera EV oh they claim up
00:37:41
to a th000 miles on a single charge
00:37:43
that's that like like this yeah it's
00:37:46
that street I guess it could be Street
00:37:49
there's all those other things that has
00:37:50
like solar power yeah that's good it's
00:37:52
got some solar power okay but if you're
00:37:54
not a aware of what it is yet it has
00:37:56
three wheels it's like
00:37:58
uh it doesn't look like a car it looks
00:38:00
like it's supposed it looks like a
00:38:02
science project that's supposed to get
00:38:03
a, miles it looks like a car that would
00:38:05
be in that the future if image it looks
00:38:08
like a car you would buy and then learn
00:38:09
that the Hummer EV and the Cyber truck
00:38:11
are on the roads and be like I'm never
00:38:12
driving this on the road yeah never
00:38:14
driving again it has 100 mph top speed
00:38:17
the aptera has a claimed 400 mil of
00:38:20
range on the 40 KW hour battery and a
00:38:24
th000 mile range how much does it weigh
00:38:26
though that thing got to be 80% battery
00:38:29
weight yeah yeah it also has solar
00:38:31
panels so like yeah I guess but solar
00:38:34
panels even on the smallest version of
00:38:37
that are adding not a not all single
00:38:39
digit miles every single company that's
00:38:41
put solar panels on has even in their
00:38:44
most optimistic Market said like at best
00:38:47
this is controlling your like air
00:38:48
conditioning for the day yeah the priest
00:38:50
Prime that I tested when I left it
00:38:52
parked outside for several several days
00:38:56
gained several miles
00:38:58
of range nice so so there's that yeah
00:39:02
yeah do with it what you may it's xiaomi
00:39:04
they announce crazy stuff I just want it
00:39:05
looks really good it does we probably
00:39:07
won't be able to buy in the US but I
00:39:09
would own this personally wow without
00:39:11
even testing that it probably doesn't
00:39:13
have Apple carplay or Android auto or
00:39:15
anything like that it definitely has
00:39:16
Android auto xiaomi but not carplay okay
00:39:19
probably not carplay yeah that's fine
00:39:21
that's bold you would own it I would own
00:39:23
this for sure what's the okay one more
00:39:26
question
00:39:27
maximum price you would pay to own it
00:39:29
that I would pay yeah I wouldn't pay a
00:39:31
lot for a
00:39:33
car but it's XI so like may I would say
00:39:37
they're going to try to sell this for
00:39:39
like let's assume all the specs are true
00:39:40
55,000 MSRP that would be crazy those
00:39:44
that would be like best bang for your
00:39:46
buck that' be unal if it hit these
00:39:48
numbers I think that's what they're
00:39:48
going to try to sell it for the 400 mile
00:39:50
base Lucid is about 80 grand yep so but
00:39:53
it's sh me it is Shi and they basically
00:39:55
if you go on their website and look at
00:39:57
all their products they're literal
00:39:58
direct ripoffs of other really expensive
00:40:01
products oh they're not shy about that
00:40:03
their vacuum cleaner looks exactly like
00:40:04
the Dyson vacuum cleaner like all of
00:40:07
their stuff is pretty much exactly a
00:40:08
ripoff we shall see but it's way cheaper
00:40:11
so we'll see we'll see yeah all right
00:40:14
speaking of EV news oh I saw this uh
00:40:18
basically at the very end of last year
00:40:20
Porsche and Aston Martin announced this
00:40:23
new carplay that apple had originally
00:40:25
announced at WWDC 20 22 which is a long
00:40:28
time ago it was a very weird very am I
00:40:31
in auge state I have so many thoughts
00:40:33
portion of wwc where Apple was just like
00:40:36
in the future all of the cars are going
00:40:39
to be completely controlled by your
00:40:41
iPhone all of the screens are going to
00:40:43
have all this information and it was all
00:40:45
a bunch of mockups and they didn't
00:40:47
announced anything real and then we
00:40:49
didn't hear anything for like an entire
00:40:50
year but moved on they had announced
00:40:53
that by the end of
00:40:55
2023 they would be able to have
00:40:57
announcements about it actually coming
00:40:59
true and literally at the very very end
00:41:02
of 2023 they put out a little press
00:41:04
release with Porsche and Aston Martin
00:41:07
talking about this next generation of
00:41:09
carplay didn't they many also say that
00:41:12
80% of people wouldn't buy a new car
00:41:14
unless it had carplay that's that might
00:41:16
have been another Apple quote Yeah I'm
00:41:18
pretty sure it was a wild stat clearly
00:41:21
not true the model y does not have
00:41:23
carplay and it's the most popular car in
00:41:24
the world they like they only uh people
00:41:28
in cero just looking to buy a new car
00:41:31
they went around on the Apple campus and
00:41:33
they're like hey I need a I need a
00:41:35
little survey here I need a quote it's
00:41:37
like when you're in high school and you
00:41:38
have to do a survey for a class so you
00:41:40
ask like 14 people and you're like my
00:41:42
data in did it you just ask your friends
00:41:45
yeah first of all I think yes carplay if
00:41:50
we just stick with carplay is an
00:41:52
important feature for a lot of people in
00:41:53
cars why because most inar software suck
00:41:57
like real bad horrible carplay not that
00:42:02
great but better than car software so
00:42:05
very very bad this mockup of it like
00:42:07
taking over your whole car would seem to
00:42:08
make sense because again what car is
00:42:10
going to have better software than what
00:42:12
Apple can make right everyone just wants
00:42:14
their phone anyway so like why not just
00:42:16
give people their car just being their
00:42:17
whole phone and apple doesn't make a car
00:42:18
yet so I guess this is the Apple car you
00:42:20
know uh the Press announcement showed
00:42:23
they said Porsche and ason Martin
00:42:25
Porsche didn't really give any model
00:42:26
numbers
00:42:27
Aston Martin did say that next year's
00:42:30
db12 would have this full carplay thing
00:42:34
on the screens which if you look up
00:42:37
photos of the interior of the Aston
00:42:38
Martin db12 the 2024 db12 there are
00:42:42
physical buttons for lots of the same
00:42:45
things that show up on the screen like
00:42:48
your your air conditioning and your
00:42:49
media like your volume all of that there
00:42:51
there are knobs and buttons on the car
00:42:53
already so they'll have a physical
00:42:54
button and a digital button how how is
00:42:57
that a good idea how is that a useful
00:43:00
like how is that a good use of space
00:43:02
it's going to be very redundant yeah
00:43:04
seems weird to me so I don't I want to
00:43:07
throw in there I'm Pro physical buttons
00:43:09
me too all in a car not all but climate
00:43:13
control easily accessible physical
00:43:14
buttons yes pretty much everything I
00:43:17
think you could probably get a there's
00:43:20
not a lot of things almost every human
00:43:21
agrees on but I think one of them is
00:43:24
that physical buttons for things like
00:43:25
that are better than digital buttons in
00:43:27
a car in a in a car for sure when you
00:43:30
you should be keeping your eyes on the
00:43:32
road yes and you want to reach and have
00:43:35
real haptic feedback about what like
00:43:37
you're moving and adjusting physical
00:43:40
buttons are better so this carplay
00:43:44
taking over your whole screen your whole
00:43:47
dashboard maybe there's a secondary
00:43:49
screen in your car I don't think every
00:43:51
car of the feature is going to have to
00:43:52
have all screen I think that's an
00:43:54
aesthetic that got popular because Tesla
00:43:56
got popular with EVs and part of making
00:44:00
an EV affordable is cost cutting around
00:44:03
the expensive battery so Model S and
00:44:06
model 3 they have incredible batteries
00:44:08
and drivetrains but then they've cost
00:44:10
cut everywhere else take away the screen
00:44:12
take away the buttons take away
00:44:14
everything it's super minimal and so
00:44:16
because Teslas are so popular all these
00:44:18
other car manufacturers are going oh
00:44:20
this is this is getting popular maybe we
00:44:22
do that too and so you're seeing all
00:44:24
these super minimal Interiors come out
00:44:25
but that's not actually what what's
00:44:27
popular about the car I think people are
00:44:29
buying the EV for the EV reason and are
00:44:31
dealing with and are okay with the whole
00:44:34
screen thing but I think we all still
00:44:35
know that physical buttons are better
00:44:38
than digital buttons so this weird like
00:44:41
head fake that we're doing towards all
00:44:43
carplay on your car but also in cars
00:44:46
that have regular buttons is kind of
00:44:47
weird because I think we're in a couple
00:44:49
years going to realize we we're just
00:44:50
going to have regular cars with buttons
00:44:52
again so it's it's weird well you still
00:44:54
need your car to work if you don't have
00:44:55
an iPhone right so it's like like I feel
00:44:57
like that's why they're doing all the
00:44:58
physical buttons in conjunction because
00:45:00
even though they're going to have the
00:45:02
digital button option with all the
00:45:04
carplay stuff you still need to be able
00:45:06
to control your car if either you don't
00:45:09
have an iPhone or if you're don't want
00:45:10
to plug your iPhone in yeah I guess so
00:45:13
if it's still the nextg carplay this is
00:45:14
still a projection from your phone like
00:45:16
this isn't built into the car like
00:45:17
Android automotive but it's well no this
00:45:19
next generation carplay is supposed to
00:45:21
have access to all of your car's
00:45:23
features so you're supposed to be able
00:45:25
to like control the temperature show
00:45:27
your speedometer and your range and your
00:45:29
RPMs if it's a gas car yeah but you
00:45:31
still need your iPhone for that to work
00:45:33
for the carplay to work yeah so if you
00:45:35
don't have your iPhone if your iPhone is
00:45:36
dead it's still going to back up to
00:45:39
whatever Aston Mar software is
00:45:40
underneath it that's actually a good
00:45:42
point I had not thought about if that's
00:45:44
the case cuz I'm not sure I I assume it
00:45:46
needs your iPhone but it could be not
00:45:49
sure yeah needs your iPhone will this
00:45:52
next gen carplay be built into the
00:45:54
carlik Android automotive or will it
00:45:56
still be like carplay and God that's
00:45:58
actually an interesting question if you
00:46:00
have Android automotive but an iPhone
00:46:02
can you still connect and do basic like
00:46:06
you can connect your iPhone to the do
00:46:08
like music and stuff like that right
00:46:09
yeah yeah exactly so I guess it if it's
00:46:11
built in it's the best case scenario
00:46:13
because then even if you don't have an
00:46:14
iPhone you can at least do the minimal
00:46:15
things like contacts and whatever and
00:46:17
then just it's an apple UI for the rest
00:46:19
of your car your phone will be like your
00:46:21
car will be like another device in your
00:46:22
Apple account basically yeah when I
00:46:25
first thought about like adjusting CL
00:46:27
and everything like that and carplay I
00:46:28
was like well I'll just use my knobs for
00:46:30
that and carplay for everything else but
00:46:32
like a lot of these pictures that
00:46:33
they're showing of like renders of it
00:46:35
are showing climate controls and
00:46:36
everything like that so they do want
00:46:37
that in there and it is both the way I
00:46:40
see it is like I'm just going to use my
00:46:42
knobs for the stuff I want to use and
00:46:44
then hopefully just customize the screen
00:46:46
enough to I'm never going to touch my
00:46:48
heated seat button on the screen never
00:46:50
going to touch my climate control on the
00:46:51
screen it's going to have my maps it's
00:46:53
going to have my music and you know this
00:46:57
skin on my I would I would do exactly
00:46:59
what you're doing but
00:47:01
then yeah it it comes down to again the
00:47:04
the question that we've asked many times
00:47:06
on this podcast before what do you think
00:47:08
will happen first a car
00:47:10
company deciding to spend the money on
00:47:13
software and become a good software
00:47:16
company as well so that they don't have
00:47:18
to rely on Apple putting all their stuff
00:47:20
on the car screen or a tech company
00:47:24
becoming a good car company so something
00:47:27
like Tesla or xiaomi or apple or
00:47:30
whatever who's already really good at
00:47:33
software getting really good at the Car
00:47:35
Part you know panel gaps build quality
00:47:37
materials we talk about all that all the
00:47:39
time which do you think will happen
00:47:40
first yeah you know so
00:47:42
theoretically becoming a car company
00:47:45
should be much harder than uh hiring a
00:47:48
good software team uh but I think we
00:47:51
kind of talked about this a little bit
00:47:52
yesterday like for some reason these
00:47:55
traditional auto manufacturers Just like
00:47:57
don't want to H hire a software division
00:47:59
to maintain good software in their cars
00:48:02
really good they have software divisions
00:48:05
but they're not a focus that's like
00:48:07
pushing boundaries right and I think
00:48:09
they don't want to do that because
00:48:10
people currently aren't buying cars for
00:48:13
the software people are currently like
00:48:14
if you're buying an expensive car like a
00:48:16
Porsche they're buying it because it's a
00:48:17
Porsche or if they're buying a Honda
00:48:18
Civic they're buying it because it's a
00:48:20
Honda Civic but I don't think right now
00:48:22
software is like a major reason that
00:48:24
people buy cars and so that's why
00:48:27
they're so likely to just be like oh
00:48:29
Android auto or uh carplay just like off
00:48:32
the shelf put it in we don't even have
00:48:34
to hire a software team yeah but slowly
00:48:38
these these startups like rivan are
00:48:41
coming and like devoting these really
00:48:43
big software teams to the interior
00:48:45
software of the car and that is a major
00:48:47
selling point for people that are the
00:48:49
early adopters of EVS but as EVS become
00:48:52
normal cars by 2030 when it's illegal to
00:48:55
buy an ice car in the United States M
00:48:57
like what is that going to look like
00:48:59
yeah so people up until let's say 2020
00:49:04
didn't really think too hard about the
00:49:05
software built into the car it's just
00:49:07
whatever I'll get car play and that'll
00:49:08
be fine yeah but people buying new cars
00:49:11
in 2024 and Beyond are going to start to
00:49:14
care about the software because a lot of
00:49:16
them will be EVs and the software will
00:49:17
matter and a lot of them are younger
00:49:19
people who care about the software let's
00:49:21
be honest so it almost feels like
00:49:23
Tesla's success kind of tricked a lot of
00:49:26
the car industry into some of the wrong
00:49:28
focuses weird yeah I do think a fully
00:49:33
compatible like Android auto or carplay
00:49:37
car in an ideal world is the best option
00:49:41
because those two software manufacturers
00:49:44
are so much better than even the
00:49:46
software software car companies are
00:49:49
currently and I think they have such a
00:49:51
head start I don't see Tesla or rivan
00:49:53
ever catching up to them in the software
00:49:55
function Plus
00:49:57
if we always talk about Tesla and the
00:49:59
ecosystem of charging and being inside
00:50:01
your Tesla all the time what's a better
00:50:03
ecosystem than your car being connected
00:50:05
to your actual ecosystem of your phone
00:50:09
and your like all your smart stuff yeah
00:50:12
it almost feels like the only possible
00:50:14
way to get that ecosystem integration is
00:50:16
for it to be the carplay thing like if
00:50:18
you use like if I use Tesla as an
00:50:19
example their app on the phone is
00:50:22
phenomenal it's the best I've ever used
00:50:24
for any car you can do you can send
00:50:26
instructions to the car you can preheat
00:50:28
the car you can have schedules for
00:50:30
charging there's all sorts of things
00:50:31
that plug and and by the way and this is
00:50:35
separate from the car like if you have a
00:50:36
Tesla solar Roof System there's all the
00:50:38
software that talks to the car where I
00:50:40
literally have it where if my car is
00:50:42
plugged in while it's sunny outside it
00:50:45
will only use the excess energy from the
00:50:48
solar that the house isn't using to
00:50:50
charge the car insane I couldn't even
00:50:52
dream of doing that with I don't think
00:50:53
the Tian has anywhere near that
00:50:54
functionality so the integration in
00:50:58
Tesla's ecosystem is great but if you
00:51:00
still want the texts from your phone or
00:51:04
the apps on your phone you kind of need
00:51:07
carplay I think there's a specific
00:51:09
phrase you used in there that's so
00:51:11
important and really important for a lot
00:51:13
of people saying like rivan and Tesla
00:51:14
already have really good software which
00:51:16
is it is the best I've used in any car
00:51:18
MH any the best car software right now
00:51:21
from Tesla and rivan or whoever is like
00:51:24
still worse than an iPad SE level
00:51:28
and UI and software from bigan that's my
00:51:32
favorite part about watching some car
00:51:33
reviews someone go oh yeah the the incar
00:51:35
infotainment is really good and they'll
00:51:36
swipe across and it'll be like this
00:51:38
horrible janky animation I'm like if I
00:51:40
reviewed an iPad and did that you'd be
00:51:42
like what is wrong with this thing this
00:51:44
is horrible I just like anytime you
00:51:45
think car software is really good
00:51:47
imagine that yeah being on an iPad or in
00:51:49
a phone review that we were doing right
00:51:50
now and people would be like you thought
00:51:52
that was a good are you serious you
00:51:55
can't be kidding interesting angle of
00:51:57
this is that the with the new carplay is
00:51:59
that depending on the manufacturer
00:52:01
they're going to skin carplay to be
00:52:03
based around the manufacturer car cool I
00:52:06
want to customize I think it's well I
00:52:08
think it's important I think it's
00:52:09
important for especially for the car
00:52:11
manufacturers right they don't really
00:52:12
want you to get into a Porsche and then
00:52:14
everything around you is Apple UI right
00:52:17
colorful like everyone else's yeah it
00:52:19
makes a lot more sense for you to get
00:52:20
into the Porsche and everything is sort
00:52:22
of Porsche themed but still has all your
00:52:24
phone functionality and as a car manua
00:52:26
fact sure like I think a big reason that
00:52:28
there's sort of this tension where they
00:52:29
don't want to give all the power to
00:52:31
Apple is that they don't want to just be
00:52:33
like oh yeah half of your experience is
00:52:35
dictated by not us so the fact that they
00:52:38
themselves can skin it and make it feel
00:52:40
like it's a first it it's going to feel
00:52:42
more first party even though it's a
00:52:44
third party thing yeah that's why I
00:52:46
think this this carplay thing H it has
00:52:50
to be a stop gap between the car
00:52:52
companies eventually going all right we
00:52:54
got to get good at software yeah and
00:52:56
we're not good at it now so you know
00:52:58
what if we can work with apple and they
00:53:00
can deliver a great experience we can
00:53:01
keep selling cars to these new people
00:53:03
who care about this software experience
00:53:05
yeah but we're eventually we can't just
00:53:07
give it up yeah so I think this is a
00:53:10
stop Gap once EVS get a lot more popular
00:53:12
and prevalent and there's cheaper ones
00:53:15
like the Tesla Model 2 or like a rivan r
00:53:18
R2 is that what it's called R2 the
00:53:20
platform yeah yeah okay then I think
00:53:23
that it's going to be a much more major
00:53:25
thing that traditional makers like Honda
00:53:27
or Toyota actually have to consider
00:53:29
because people that are going to be
00:53:31
buying the most cars are going to be
00:53:32
like Millennials and gen Z yeah so
00:53:35
that's the reason why I think Google and
00:53:38
apple will prevail because they're going
00:53:41
to see more companies going towards
00:53:43
their own software and they're going to
00:53:44
be like hold on a minute we want to be
00:53:46
in these cars this is this is our
00:53:49
opportunity to make more money or our
00:53:51
opportunity we possibly losing money
00:53:53
because now people aren't using carplay
00:53:55
or Android auto they want data as much
00:53:58
as possible if you start taking away
00:54:00
driving data from them you start running
00:54:03
into some issues I wouldn't doubt if
00:54:05
they're going to start I mean like
00:54:07
they're going to want to make deals with
00:54:09
car companies and be the thing inside of
00:54:11
cars as much as they can it's an easy
00:54:13
selling point hey why pay a software
00:54:15
team just pay us or we'll pay you to be
00:54:18
inside this car well here's the question
00:54:20
for you guys would you prefer a really
00:54:23
good like rivan or Tesla UI that's just
00:54:26
really good or would you prefer carplay
00:54:28
or Android auto that's I think that I
00:54:30
think there's an obvious answer there I
00:54:32
think if both of them are at Absolute
00:54:34
Peak you want the one that's also
00:54:36
connected to all the other Tech that you
00:54:37
use I actually
00:54:39
don't I I like my car software being
00:54:42
like separate from my phone I think
00:54:45
that's like a small wait same no I no I
00:54:48
think that's like a small personal thing
00:54:50
where it's
00:54:52
like I think in Peak if they were
00:54:54
absolutely perfect on both sides you
00:54:56
would want it connected to everything
00:54:57
else I think that if it was skinned to
00:55:00
feel native and but it was actually car
00:55:03
Player Android auto then I would be okay
00:55:05
with it yeah but I prefer like the Tesla
00:55:08
UI or the rivian UI to carplay and
00:55:11
Android auto but I I see you're saying
00:55:12
about that's what I'm saying like if it
00:55:14
was perfect in both scenarios you would
00:55:16
want it I would want the one that's
00:55:17
connect to we all we all want something
00:55:21
in our ecosystem it's because it's the
00:55:22
what you're the most familiar with too
00:55:23
it's already plugged into everything
00:55:24
yeah summ summary of everything for me
00:55:28
is the the legitimate older car
00:55:31
companies have a head start in the
00:55:33
making cars thing and they're trying to
00:55:36
figure out how to solve for all the
00:55:39
downsides that they have with software
00:55:41
and this feels like a patch for now mhm
00:55:45
the software companies have a huge Head
00:55:47
Start when it comes to the software
00:55:49
Tesla rivan maybe even xiaomi who knows
00:55:53
but they are trying to figure out all of
00:55:55
the shortcomings that they have with the
00:55:57
whole making cars thing batteries range
00:56:00
build quality panel gaps whatever tono
00:56:04
covers tunel CS so they're they're both
00:56:07
working on their shortcomings and the
00:56:10
patch for now seems like good car good
00:56:14
software combined please buy our car
00:56:18
that's my summary okay we have to take a
00:56:20
quick
00:56:22
break's been on the trivia button for
00:56:24
like half an hour cuz our notes were
00:56:27
like three sentences and then that was
00:56:28
30 minutes yeah hit the button there it
00:56:31
is all
00:56:34
right all right friends I don't know if
00:56:36
you're ready for this one so this is a
00:56:38
spe special interest uh topic so
00:56:41
ruinscape is a browser based Fantasy
00:56:44
game no no no hear me out originally
00:56:46
released in 2001 by the company jagex
00:56:49
with over 200 million registered
00:56:51
accounts it's the world's most popular
00:56:53
free-to-play MMO RPG still
00:56:57
to be determined oh registered accounts
00:56:59
yeah RuneScape is known for many things
00:57:01
but especially they're staggeringly
00:57:03
large music library in 2017 they were
00:57:07
awarded with the guus world record for
00:57:09
most original pieces of music in a video
00:57:11
game H as of November 27th of 2023 how
00:57:15
many total songs are there in ruinscape
00:57:18
it's a multiple choice answer don't be
00:57:20
scared okay is that all of RuneScape o
00:57:23
like old school end runes AP 3 cuz are
00:57:27
there different songs I think it's just
00:57:29
like in the newest version so RuneScape
00:57:31
3 yeah is RuneScape 3 considered the
00:57:34
newest version anymore or is old school
00:57:36
considered the new help I've never
00:57:38
played aape you don't need to play to
00:57:40
know I didn't even know this so I still
00:57:43
don't Mariah famously has a RuneScape
00:57:45
desk mat at her desk so not anymore not
00:57:47
anymore oh yeah you swapped that yeah
00:57:50
you're wearing a RuneScape shirt though
00:57:51
yes is my Christmas that's a RuneScape
00:57:53
oh actually it's it's based on one of
00:57:54
the songs it is oh
00:57:56
all right option a uh
00:58:00
1,589 songs I could see that option b
00:58:05
1,362 songs this is not a large
00:58:08
variation too many option C 1,27 songs
00:58:12
or D 856 songs those are all way too
00:58:15
many they're way too those numbers are
00:58:17
way too close to each other I like it's
00:58:19
I was thinking it would be like 64 songs
00:58:22
they are good songs a th000 songs yeah
00:58:26
10,000 yeah that's what I would do yeah
00:58:30
just saying I don't know if it helps at
00:58:31
all but you can get something in the
00:58:33
game called The Music Cape correct or
00:58:37
yeah so if you unlock all of the songs
00:58:39
you get a piece
00:58:41
of equipment based on unlocking all of
00:58:44
the
00:58:45
songs unlock the songs RuneScape is also
00:58:48
famously known as the grest game
00:58:51
possible yeah so okay that shouldn't
00:58:54
don't be scared we'll think let's take
00:58:56
it a break we'll think about it we'll be
00:58:58
back I just want to hope somebody's
00:58:59
listening right now like you idiots of
00:59:01
course it's
00:59:03
1,130
00:59:08
famously welcome back uh this is a
00:59:10
section that I think maybe we should
00:59:12
have done uh at the end of last year but
00:59:14
I wanted to fit in here because it's a
00:59:15
little fun section we always get a very
00:59:17
positive audience reaction we do when we
00:59:19
do something like this never too late
00:59:20
yeah I wanted to go over our individual
00:59:23
favorite pieces of tech from 2023
00:59:25
something we started using in 2023 that
00:59:27
we think like kind of changed our
00:59:29
workflow or that we just really
00:59:31
positively liked um it's always a little
00:59:33
fun I I like recommendations sections uh
00:59:36
Gadget lab from wired actually did a
00:59:38
full recommendation episode for the last
00:59:40
week of 2023 uh so I thought it would be
00:59:42
fun to have a little recommendation
00:59:44
section so I think we're going to do
00:59:46
three products each and we're going to
00:59:47
go to a little round tables we're going
00:59:48
to start off with Marquez and uh it
00:59:51
doesn't have to be something that
00:59:52
released in 2023 just something you
00:59:53
started using that you really like
00:59:56
H I love how in this for audio
01:00:00
listeners randomly after an adbreak
01:00:03
people hosts of the show will just be
01:00:05
wearing smart glasses oh I didn't even
01:00:08
realize marus doesn't even wear normal
01:00:10
sunglasses except for these indoors all
01:00:12
the time yeah uh spoiler sorry I'm
01:00:17
picking I'm picking the ray bands meta
01:00:19
smart glasses as my first pick these
01:00:21
things I mean I don't know I don't like
01:00:23
you said I don't wear sunglasses that
01:00:24
much but they surprise me at how how
01:00:27
like just overall as a package they
01:00:29
managed to fit a lot of fun smart
01:00:31
features in things that look like just
01:00:34
regular sunglasses and they actually get
01:00:36
David's wearing the clear ones so you
01:00:39
could kind of just wear them and then
01:00:41
are those a transitions right too or no
01:00:43
uh yeah I think they are trans they turn
01:00:44
into sunglasses too they're not full
01:00:46
sunglasses they're not like nearly like
01:00:47
yours but they tint you know yeah
01:00:49
personally I think that wearing the
01:00:51
sunglasses ones is probably a better
01:00:52
option because if you wear clear glasses
01:00:55
when you don't normally wear clear
01:00:56
glasses then obvious like what are you
01:00:59
doing but if I'm walking through the
01:01:00
city like the POV videos that you can
01:01:02
get of just like walking around or
01:01:04
whatever activity you're doing are
01:01:05
actually pretty solid from these so just
01:01:08
for that feature alone I thought these
01:01:09
were really cool um I've been wanting to
01:01:11
do more POV driving videos for autofocus
01:01:14
and struggling to find safe ways to do
01:01:16
that so this is a this has been an
01:01:19
actual workflow game changer for that
01:01:21
too so yeah I I'm liking these the video
01:01:24
quality is really good the sound quality
01:01:26
is surprisingly good it kind of shoots
01:01:27
sound into your ears directional audio
01:01:30
Yeah and then they have they're like one
01:01:31
of the first multimodal AI products as
01:01:34
well exactly I've been I've been testing
01:01:36
the hey meta look and tell me what you
01:01:39
see it's going to start reading to me
01:01:40
now we did this a couple weeks ago yeah
01:01:43
do you want me to oh it didn't do
01:01:46
it it didn't do it that time that's fine
01:01:49
cool we're in the early
01:01:51
stages all right this is my favorite
01:01:53
piece watch it not worry watch it not
01:01:55
all right Andrew all right I have for
01:01:58
show and tell today oh oh if you
01:02:00
couldn't guess cuz I won't stop talking
01:02:03
about keyboards the last couple months
01:02:05
this bro the Omni type power light wow
01:02:10
which is a keyboard from a company named
01:02:12
omn type they're famous for a very old
01:02:16
or an older very expensive very low
01:02:19
inventory keyboard called the bower 2 um
01:02:22
but they made a light version which is
01:02:25
polycarbonate it's 100 bucks 120 bucks
01:02:28
and it's like in stock inventory which
01:02:30
is really cool and really the newer
01:02:32
thing in the keyboard Community that's
01:02:33
happening right now um and they were
01:02:36
nice enough to send me one and when I
01:02:38
was on paternity leave I built them and
01:02:41
now I've built like 10 keyboards and
01:02:43
I've been having so much fun with it um
01:02:46
this one I brought specifically is I
01:02:49
think sounds and feels so
01:02:53
good I'm like obsessed with it it is um
01:02:56
yeah it's a polycarbonate board it's hot
01:02:58
swap I have switches from kinetic Labs
01:03:01
they're called the kinetic lab Moon
01:03:02
switches which are actually hand lub
01:03:04
from the factory so they sound really
01:03:06
nice without any effort um and a nice
01:03:09
Game Boy theme key cap set called gmk
01:03:12
DMG going to do a little typing test
01:03:15
yeah
01:03:18
oh I could listen to that all
01:03:22
day inject that in my brain I have head
01:03:26
first into the keyboard hobby to the
01:03:28
point where before I left for paternity
01:03:30
leave I had built my first keyboard to
01:03:32
now I am back from it and I have like 20
01:03:34
of them and a keyboard YouTube channel
01:03:36
so this is where we've G I have a
01:03:38
question so I I love all these these
01:03:40
like Niche like super deep dive into
01:03:43
hobbies that we do and I always I I I've
01:03:45
started getting to keyboards more and so
01:03:47
I've come to appreciate much more the
01:03:50
different sounds and feels that you get
01:03:51
from a keyboard why does the lightness
01:03:54
of it matter the light
01:03:57
this is just light because polycarb
01:03:59
cheaper CNC aluminum so the reason I'm
01:04:02
actually on a video right now on this
01:04:04
for the studio Channel but the reason
01:04:07
you can just stamp and mold
01:04:09
polycarbonate whereas before the b 2
01:04:12
that they were making he said it took
01:04:14
over yeah cuz it's aluminum but it took
01:04:17
more than a year to make 500 of them and
01:04:19
8,000 people signed up for the raffle so
01:04:23
that's just not an option for smaller
01:04:25
companies or even some bigger companies
01:04:26
to make stuff like that um places like
01:04:29
keyron do do aluminum bodies and they're
01:04:31
great at in stock stuff and there's way
01:04:33
more companies doing in stock things
01:04:35
right now which is really cool um all
01:04:37
this I'm working on in the video that
01:04:38
I'm doing right now but polycarbonate is
01:04:40
nice I like the lightness of this just
01:04:43
for like bringing it to work was nice I
01:04:46
think I do still like my heavy keyboard
01:04:48
playing games cuz it like sits in its
01:04:49
spot do you bring this back and forth
01:04:50
every day not every day um I'll probably
01:04:53
leave this one at work I built a bunch
01:04:55
of home I'll probably leave them at work
01:04:56
to just use as props cuz I obviously
01:04:58
don't need 20 keyboards um but yeah I've
01:05:01
just been building a lot of different
01:05:02
ones trying different sounds and feels
01:05:04
and stuff and I've been taking videos of
01:05:06
all of them and posting typing test plug
01:05:09
your Channel I want you guys what do you
01:05:11
think of this channel name it's called l
01:05:13
m n o key I love it that's nice right
01:05:18
that's a cool channel name it's just me
01:05:20
and my friend typing pretty much very
01:05:22
lowkey but yeah this one Omni type B
01:05:25
light big fan I liked the keyboard uog I
01:05:28
made a keyboard uog it's an hour of
01:05:30
typing with like fireplace crackling did
01:05:32
you type for an hour or did you Loop
01:05:35
it did you type for an
01:05:38
hour I I typed for 10 minutes and then
01:05:41
looped it nice I debated typing
01:05:42
Christmas songs during it but that was
01:05:44
too much work yeah that reminds I used
01:05:45
to bring my H uh when I worked at Intel
01:05:47
I brought my happy hacking keyboard to
01:05:49
work every day he had a a carrying case
01:05:51
I I had a carrying case for it uh there
01:05:53
was a period of time as well that I
01:05:54
brought my ergod do to work and I used
01:05:57
to eat ramen at my desk while typing Nur
01:06:00
dox is like a split hand keyboard where
01:06:02
you do this and then you can put
01:06:04
something in the center like keyboards
01:06:05
look really
01:06:06
cool someone clip that where I just went
01:06:08
like this yeah I had I had a wood case
01:06:10
and Elvin Elvin keycaps from Lord of the
01:06:13
Rings it was pretty amazing yeah and a
01:06:16
runes skate mouse pad yeah all right um
01:06:20
my I think favorite piece of tech from
01:06:22
this year is software it's very we've
01:06:25
talked about this before for it's Arc
01:06:26
browser uh they're a cool startup you
01:06:28
have to pull it out of your computer to
01:06:29
show it to us yeah yeah I've got a
01:06:32
sticker on my laptop oh okay they're
01:06:33
they're a very fun startup they're uh I
01:06:35
don't really know how they're going to
01:06:36
make money uh and they don't really
01:06:38
either they have some random ideas but
01:06:40
for now they're running on some Runway
01:06:43
um but yeah I don't it's it's hard to
01:06:45
get me to switch a piece of software or
01:06:49
technology that I use all the time and I
01:06:51
I generally will try things for like a
01:06:54
day and then I'll be like um no I like
01:06:57
going back to my other thing um I think
01:06:59
I described Arc very badly the last time
01:07:01
we talked about it I was like it kind of
01:07:03
gets rid of your tabs and then it can
01:07:04
kind of do this stuff and uh it cleans
01:07:07
your room for you yeah it kind of yeah I
01:07:09
I famously am really really terrible at
01:07:12
tab management so at a certain amount of
01:07:14
time uh at like 12 hours later it will
01:07:17
clear all your tabs and you can have
01:07:19
different spaces so I have like a work
01:07:20
space a personal space um and then like
01:07:24
a website management space face just all
01:07:26
these different things it's got boosts
01:07:28
now that came out this year which is
01:07:30
like you can basically modify the code
01:07:32
for a website to look however you want
01:07:34
you can turn it pink you can get rid of
01:07:36
certain things they had this funny
01:07:37
little uh ad that came out when
01:07:40
Twitter when Twitter blue came out that
01:07:43
like removed the Twitter blue tab and
01:07:45
removed all these things just to like
01:07:47
clean up I don't know it's just a it's a
01:07:49
very fun uh startup with a very fun
01:07:52
browser and most browsers are so
01:07:54
stagnant they're just it's Apple's
01:07:57
browser Microsoft's browser or Google's
01:07:59
browser so it's like they're not playing
01:08:01
with fun quirky interesting features
01:08:03
yeah they're quirky I think that's would
01:08:04
you say Firefox is no no no I'm just sad
01:08:06
you didn't say it um no I would say
01:08:09
though it is stagnant but to David's
01:08:12
like Point here is it's really hard to
01:08:15
change things that you use for a very
01:08:16
long time and a browser like I'm using
01:08:18
Firefox because I started years ago and
01:08:21
I don't know why I use it over chrome
01:08:24
I'm just used to seeing it that anyways
01:08:26
and I just haven't made the change so
01:08:28
like that's a big change so you it's got
01:08:30
to be a fairly solid product if you've
01:08:32
made that change I was going to say the
01:08:34
same thing my there's a small list of
01:08:35
software that if I change it which I do
01:08:38
once in a while it's a really big deal
01:08:40
to me which is my to-do list app my
01:08:42
email app my calendar app yeah my video
01:08:46
editing app yeah and my browser right
01:08:49
they're like I'll have one for years at
01:08:51
a time and if I find one I might try it
01:08:53
for a day and then come back to the one
01:08:55
I like and find another one try for a
01:08:56
day come back to the one I like but if I
01:08:58
change from Premier to final cut my life
01:09:00
has changed I change from Safari to Ark
01:09:03
like which I did huge change so I I I
01:09:06
like it a lot also Arc is doing
01:09:07
something kind of crazy and
01:09:09
unprecedented where they're uh
01:09:11
unprecedented like presidented
01:09:14
unprecedented they're basically they're
01:09:16
doing something called uh Swift on
01:09:18
Windows which effectively they didn't
01:09:20
want to write a whole code base right
01:09:22
now it's only Mac OS and so they wrote
01:09:24
it for Swift because Swift is like a
01:09:26
much newer cleaner thing and they didn't
01:09:28
want to use um some of these like
01:09:31
platform switcher applications so
01:09:34
they're making this thing called Swift
01:09:36
on Windows where basically they can just
01:09:37
write it for Swift and then
01:09:39
theoretically can make it run on Windows
01:09:42
they can make it run on Android um and
01:09:45
they have an iPhone app right now but
01:09:47
they're going to completely revamp it
01:09:49
because it's not really a browser app
01:09:51
it's sort of just like a you can only
01:09:52
have one tab open at a time and you can
01:09:54
pin things to your to your browser on
01:09:56
your laptop but it's a very big
01:09:58
undertaking I think because they made a
01:10:00
browser and they don't see it really
01:10:02
obvious path to monetization they're
01:10:04
trying to figure out how they could
01:10:05
monetize this um but they're they're
01:10:08
quirky and fun and that's just kind of
01:10:09
the reason that I kind of have stuck
01:10:11
with them from uh since the beginning of
01:10:13
the year nice but we'll see if they're
01:10:15
around they make nice hats too just
01:10:17
saying they do make nice hats oh that's
01:10:18
how they can make money they dig their
01:10:19
hat yeah on the hats yeah merch baby
01:10:21
they have a pretty rabid uh fan base
01:10:24
that is like always a good thing loyalty
01:10:26
is nice very loyal fan base and
01:10:28
surprisingly they uh like every week
01:10:30
they update the app on Thursday of every
01:10:32
week and add a fe pretty much add a
01:10:33
feature every week which is cool they
01:10:35
now have on their YouTube channel they
01:10:37
put out like feature update videos every
01:10:40
week and those videos get close to
01:10:41
100,000 views every week now that's
01:10:43
where you make YouTube creators now baby
01:10:48
they're YouTubers now um so yeah it was
01:10:50
it was fun using that this year yeah
01:10:52
nice all right prod number two Marquez
01:10:55
my next one is extremely expensive so
01:10:58
hopefully you guys have less expensive
01:11:00
things put the affiliate code in there
01:11:02
yeah I love the rivan r1s that is
01:11:06
expensive it's a it's my it's
01:11:09
the most well-rounded most I I had
01:11:14
almost only good things to say about
01:11:16
this EV which is very rare for me and I
01:11:19
mean we test all kinds of vehicles cars
01:11:20
SUVs pickup trucks all sorts of stuff
01:11:22
like that I had like nothing negative to
01:11:24
say about the rivian r1s and my first
01:11:26
exposure to it was I think in 2022 but
01:11:29
it started shipping in 2023 and I
01:11:31
reviewed it in
01:11:32
2023 and um yeah there's a lot of things
01:11:36
that I like about it so I'm there's also
01:11:39
an Easter egg in the video that I made
01:11:42
about it which you guys will probably
01:11:44
understand sometime later in
01:11:46
2024 but uh yeah wait what that's really
01:11:50
I don't even know what you're talking
01:11:51
about or I don't think I know what
01:11:53
you're talking about so yeah that I mean
01:11:55
it's expensive it's it's I'm starting to
01:11:57
see a lot more of them on the road which
01:11:58
I think is a good sign for rivan as a
01:12:00
company iwhere it's selling way better
01:12:02
than the truck yeah so that's cool but
01:12:05
yeah I just I'm shouting it out because
01:12:07
I think it's amazing I think r2s and r2t
01:12:09
will be much more interesting for the
01:12:10
masses because they're trying to bring
01:12:11
most of the capabilities that most
01:12:13
people need on the street down in price
01:12:15
to an
01:12:16
attainable level and I think they're
01:12:19
going to be great what if I want a sedan
01:12:21
can rivan make a sedan a sedan so rivan
01:12:24
has this adventure type of theme
01:12:27
Adventure sedan I think an adventure be
01:12:29
interesting like a cross track yeah I
01:12:32
think that's a that's a popular vehicle
01:12:33
category so the pickup truck technically
01:12:36
the most popular vehicle in America is a
01:12:38
pickup truck and they started with a
01:12:39
competitor to it and I think the the big
01:12:41
three row sedan is another very popular
01:12:43
category that maybe an adventure spin
01:12:45
sorry three three SUV but I think this
01:12:48
the big crossover or sedan big sedan
01:12:51
could be another thing for them to aim
01:12:53
for because because the super saltera
01:12:55
was so bad if if they made like a sutera
01:12:59
competitor that was actually good I
01:13:01
would be so happy iy that in a heartbeat
01:13:04
I want the R2 so bad slightly bigger
01:13:07
similar size to my Forester if that's
01:13:08
the case yeah would be very veryy again
01:13:12
I think I I put my demands out there
01:13:14
that might be two row what because r1s
01:13:17
is a small three row maybe r2s is two
01:13:20
yeah R r2s I would assume is going to be
01:13:22
a two row but still decent trunk space
01:13:25
if it's still got thexy look of rivan
01:13:29
and it still like some of the like trunk
01:13:32
a lot of times I feel like when you
01:13:33
start going to the smaller SUV they
01:13:35
start getting rid of the front trunk I
01:13:37
still want I think is uniquely building
01:13:39
EV from the ground up or some of the
01:13:40
ones that get rid of the front trunk are
01:13:41
just not they're just L they're not
01:13:43
building an EV from the ground up in
01:13:44
that way I have a real I feel like I'm
01:13:47
going to reserve the
01:13:48
R2 as long as you're not planning on
01:13:50
having three more kids then you can they
01:13:52
find their own car
01:13:55
go in the front truck then you're
01:13:56
getting that white Chevy minivan baby
01:13:59
it's on on
01:14:00
Odyssey yeah r1s that's my shout out
01:14:02
that's awesome um I'm going to shout out
01:14:05
something so I don't use it but we have
01:14:06
it in the office and I think it's really
01:14:09
really cool and unless you see it so
01:14:11
I'll try and describe it it sounds kind
01:14:14
of lame but I think it's awesome it's
01:14:15
the Corsair platform 6 sit desk that we
01:14:19
got recently I like I thought about I
01:14:22
thought a lot about getting one yeah I
01:14:24
really it so they they sent us one and
01:14:26
we put it in our gaming room and it's
01:14:28
like a Corsair is obviously a gaming
01:14:30
company this desk doesn't scream gamer
01:14:34
as hard though it's like a nice wooden
01:14:36
platform it has kind of like its own
01:14:39
adjustable pegboard backing so you can
01:14:41
add all these different customized like
01:14:43
shelves and hooks and like there's side
01:14:46
plates that come out to extend the desk
01:14:48
left and right there's pegboards that
01:14:49
can go on the side it's Auto it's sit
01:14:51
stand it just has like all these really
01:14:54
awesome customizing things on it without
01:14:57
looking without like looking like a real
01:14:59
desk because here's the thing I could
01:15:00
see having this in a garage and using it
01:15:02
as like a workshop desk it probably
01:15:05
Workshop desk probably should be a
01:15:08
little sturdier or like thicker just if
01:15:11
you're like using a saw and stuff and
01:15:13
getting side of it I like soldering and
01:15:15
that kind of stuff yeah yeah fair I mean
01:15:17
this is this is it's just a really nice
01:15:19
looking desk that has all the customiz
01:15:22
customization that you would like ever
01:15:23
want like we have really nice speakers
01:15:25
up on the side of it me right now my
01:15:27
studio monitors are on the desk and they
01:15:29
they've been on my desk for years but
01:15:31
the the thought of being able to get
01:15:32
them up off the desk at your ear level
01:15:34
but then have you reclaim the desk space
01:15:36
underneath it that that's and still has
01:15:38
all sorts of great things for like cable
01:15:40
management and stuff like that and
01:15:42
places for arms like essentially you can
01:15:45
create this with like almost nothing
01:15:46
sitting on the desk except for what you
01:15:48
want and have your monitor and computer
01:15:49
set up in all different places and I
01:15:51
don't it's just a really sick desk I
01:15:53
don't even know how much it is it's
01:15:55
probably pretty expensive but it's on
01:15:57
sale it's on sale baby how much uh it's
01:16:01
only $30 off but it is oh no uh it's
01:16:05
$848 as of right now that's not that bad
01:16:08
for a desk for a motorized sit stand
01:16:11
desk there are obviously better or
01:16:13
cheaper options out there but I don't
01:16:15
think that's terrible yeah I spent a lot
01:16:18
on my
01:16:19
desk yeah I think it's really sick I
01:16:21
think I don't know if we've done have we
01:16:23
done an a-roll set in in gaming room
01:16:25
since we changed that no I will Al did
01:16:28
one Alex might have Sho for a video
01:16:29
that's not out yet but I think it looks
01:16:31
great and it's going to be a really good
01:16:33
yeah just for our set purposes being
01:16:35
able to customize it it's really the
01:16:37
pegboard is really awesome I like that a
01:16:39
lot good job corer all right my second
01:16:42
one uh is I promise not sponsored okay
01:16:45
uh but the eight Sleep mattress topper
01:16:49
pad interesting go on okay this thing is
01:16:52
so sick I love mine so much we got yeah
01:16:55
we got it originally for a sponsorship
01:16:57
yep um and well basically they they
01:16:59
reached out they wanted to sponsor us I
01:17:01
said I will have to try it first and if
01:17:04
I like it then we'll do a sponsor and
01:17:05
then I loved it and did the sponsor yeah
01:17:08
right so they have a full mattress
01:17:09
option and then they just have a
01:17:10
mattress topper I got the topper because
01:17:12
I already have a mattress that I really
01:17:14
like um but effectively it's this
01:17:18
high-tech Sleep mattress topper that can
01:17:21
cool you and heat you at different times
01:17:23
of the night it uses like intelligent
01:17:26
machine learning or whatever to like
01:17:28
change the temperature over the course
01:17:29
of the night so that you sleep better it
01:17:31
has all these trackers to like tell you
01:17:33
how you slept and like say when you
01:17:36
should go to bed the app is weirdly
01:17:38
welld designed it is pretty good yeah
01:17:40
yeah like it's it's a very high quality
01:17:42
product with a very high quality app and
01:17:45
honestly it has made me sleep
01:17:48
significantly better since I've had it
01:17:50
yeah um it's crazy too because at the at
01:17:53
every morning it gives you this sleep
01:17:54
score to tell you how you slept and my
01:17:57
sleep score always correlates with how
01:17:59
good I feel which is crazy like if it's
01:18:01
it's like oh you slept terribly you got
01:18:02
a 63 I'm like yeah I know I feel like
01:18:04
crap but if I'm like if I wake up and
01:18:06
I'm like wow I feel incredible it's
01:18:09
always like 98 um and it'll change the
01:18:12
temperature over the course like as it
01:18:14
gets closer to you waking up to help you
01:18:16
wake up more naturally and add a point
01:18:18
in your like circadian rhythm where it's
01:18:20
you feel better waking up I mean just
01:18:22
waking up to it being like a little
01:18:23
warmer is is
01:18:30
cooler and it can also vibrate to wake
01:18:32
you up which is kind of weird I don't
01:18:33
use that feature it's pretty low they
01:18:35
just updated it did they okay I haven't
01:18:37
tried it again since then I have one
01:18:39
major gripe with it which I is very
01:18:43
small and I don't know how they would
01:18:44
change it so if you want to like go take
01:18:47
a nap in your bed in the middle of the
01:18:49
day and it's cold in your room because
01:18:52
there's water flowing through it without
01:18:53
it changing the tempure like the bed is
01:18:56
cold when you get into it which is like
01:18:58
so small and I'm more of a couch Napper
01:19:01
but like so you have to feat it up ahead
01:19:02
of time well because it it starts
01:19:04
heating up based on like when you said
01:19:06
as a bedtime right well no no but like
01:19:08
if you're if you would prefer to be a
01:19:10
little warmer oh then you can go on the
01:19:11
app and yeah but if you're just like oh
01:19:14
man I'm pretty exhausted at 2 o' I'm
01:19:16
going to go take a nap in bed it's just
01:19:18
like cold because it's just water that's
01:19:20
sitting in a cold room so very minor
01:19:23
grape yes still absolutely love it two
01:19:26
things one it's hilarious that my bed
01:19:27
got a software update but two two is I
01:19:30
think I got home from like an overnight
01:19:32
thing once and so I like got in bed to
01:19:34
go to sleep at 6:00 a.m. or something
01:19:37
and it it just turned on it just figured
01:19:40
it out realized that I was and I still
01:19:41
got a horrible sleep score but like it
01:19:43
realized that I was getting into bed at
01:19:44
a crazy time and I was like all right CU
01:19:46
it's got the sensors the heart rate
01:19:47
monitor everything is built into the
01:19:48
mattress topper it's it knows a weird
01:19:51
amount about you it's kind of maybe a
01:19:53
little too much
01:19:56
it is also on sale wow what not a
01:19:59
sponsor it is a very expensive product
01:20:01
it's $2500 for the mattress topper which
01:20:04
I know is a ton um and some of those
01:20:07
features are behind a pay behind
01:20:09
subscription you don't need the
01:20:11
subscription you really don't need it no
01:20:13
I think some of the way I think they'll
01:20:15
like it changing cuz like you can set
01:20:18
what points of temperature you want over
01:20:20
it's like when you go to bed when you
01:20:23
hit light sleep when you hit deep sleep
01:20:24
when you wake up but I think the
01:20:26
automatic changing of that based on your
01:20:28
movement and stuff is behind the pay
01:20:30
water yeah it's like
01:20:32
autopilot well yeah I really like it I
01:20:35
have slept way better in the last six
01:20:38
months since you have a water cooled bed
01:20:40
have you gotten to the point where it's
01:20:42
harder to sleep in other beds
01:20:45
um it that's an interesting question cuz
01:20:48
I wasn't sure if I was actually sleeping
01:20:50
better in the aid sleep I thought wow I
01:20:51
do I feel like I am going to sleep
01:20:53
faster and then I tried to sleep in a
01:20:55
hotel bed and I was like I'm cooking
01:20:57
okay Hotel Beds suck man I disagree with
01:21:00
both of you I've really enjoyed I think
01:21:02
Hotel Beds are usually pretty good and
01:21:04
at least for me and I I've started
01:21:06
feeling like wow these are too hot now
01:21:08
interesting I see the reason I still
01:21:10
sleep okay in a hotel bed is cuz I'm not
01:21:12
paying the electricity bill of what I
01:21:14
set the H to when I go into a hotel
01:21:16
that's very D of you and exactly so I'm
01:21:20
cranking that to whatever preferred
01:21:21
temperature want it's still 64 degre and
01:21:23
you have to like get out of bed when
01:21:25
it's cold yeah it's tough I like the
01:21:27
feature where uh it had hit zero cooling
01:21:30
or heating like an hour before I wake up
01:21:32
but as I'm waking up it gets colder and
01:21:34
it sort of nudges me out of bed by
01:21:37
getting colder and that works really
01:21:39
well see that's probably why my sleep
01:21:40
score sucks cuz I make it get warmer and
01:21:42
then I'm like I don't want to leave I've
01:21:44
never once wanted my bed to be warm so
01:21:46
I've never I don't have it get warm ever
01:21:49
I'm a cozy boy I guess there you go yeah
01:21:52
anyway all right cool product last round
01:21:53
let's do a speed
01:21:55
okay last last item for me um I recently
01:21:58
started using this set of inar monitors
01:22:00
by 64 audio I don't know how to
01:22:02
pronounce the name but I'm going to try
01:22:04
which might be a mistake I think it's
01:22:05
called the vour but they IMs I back in
01:22:09
high school I have this memory of every
01:22:11
time during Like Home Room and study
01:22:13
hall I I just had my zoom HD and my inar
01:22:16
monitors and I would just Zen out and
01:22:20
not talk to anyone and just listen to
01:22:21
music for hours and that was that memory
01:22:26
was like a core memory that was unlocked
01:22:27
when I just went back to starting to use
01:22:29
in- your monitors again because you
01:22:31
start hearing things in the music that
01:22:33
you didn't realize were there because
01:22:34
you've only heard them on headphones or
01:22:36
you've only heard them on speakers I've
01:22:38
been listening to these I've been
01:22:39
editing with these a little bit they're
01:22:41
very versatile very expensive also uh
01:22:44
but I'm giving them a shout out because
01:22:46
I don't have anything bad to say about
01:22:47
them yet so I made the mistake of
01:22:49
opening them and trying them and then
01:22:51
handing them to you and not trying them
01:22:53
for longer cuz now that haven't left
01:22:54
your desk since I gave they going to be
01:22:56
there for a while yeah they're actually
01:22:58
in his ears right now it's it's funny
01:23:00
what you unlock when you find a new
01:23:03
better listening experience I uh I have
01:23:06
this turntable that I've had for a long
01:23:07
time and I I have like 500 records but
01:23:09
they're all on my mom's house cuz I was
01:23:11
that weird kid in high school who was
01:23:13
like super into records uh but I finally
01:23:16
like got a couple new records and put
01:23:17
them on my turntable at home and I'm
01:23:19
like damn this sounds so good yeah it
01:23:22
sounds way better so I am ex I want to I
01:23:25
want to try your I am I'm editing I'm
01:23:27
like hearing things I've never heard
01:23:29
from the microphone before like there
01:23:30
are there are cars outside the parking
01:23:32
lot that I see the levels on the mix pre
01:23:35
or at zero so I'm like I think we can
01:23:36
keep talking like I don't hear I don't
01:23:37
see it on the levels and then I hear in
01:23:39
the IMs I'm like this is so much so I
01:23:42
hear everything I hear my I hear the
01:23:44
hair is growing out of my face crazy
01:23:47
anyway okay what's your pick um this is
01:23:49
definitely something that came out in
01:23:50
2022 and the thing I'm looking forward
01:23:52
to got delayed till 2024 so using it as
01:23:55
a 2023 thing is maybe not the best but
01:23:57
um the Pulsar X2 wireless gaming mouse
01:24:01
I've used before PSAR Pulsar p u LS a r
01:24:05
um it's just a mouse that I loved it was
01:24:08
fantastic I was using the random Frank P
01:24:09
version but they do all these really
01:24:11
good collabs and designs and they're
01:24:14
coming out with a Demon Slayer collab
01:24:16
soon which is an anime I started
01:24:18
watching and I really like so far so I
01:24:19
can't wait till that comes out it's
01:24:20
gonna be sick but yeah that's my my
01:24:23
quick hit nice
01:24:24
um mine is a little boring but I really
01:24:27
liked the pixel fold this year I know it
01:24:29
had a lot of problems uh like the bezels
01:24:32
are pretty big on the inside and the
01:24:33
inter screen not very good they come I
01:24:36
don't care about tensor whatever
01:24:37
whatever um but I just really liked the
01:24:39
form factor because I was really hoping
01:24:41
like the Oppo Find n and the find N2
01:24:45
never got a US launch and that's like a
01:24:47
shorter more pocketbook style foldable
01:24:50
phone and so if you live yeah passport
01:24:54
style I like the pocketbook style yeah
01:24:57
so if you live in like the United States
01:24:58
and you want a pocketbook style passport
01:25:00
style phone it's kind of the only option
01:25:02
and the thing is pixel software for
01:25:05
Android is by far my favorite Android
01:25:07
software and so having that along with
01:25:09
all the Google smarts on a passport
01:25:12
style phone allowed me to sort of ignore
01:25:15
some of the the issues with it also
01:25:18
we've talked about this before probably
01:25:20
the best phone to use closed um and I
01:25:22
like that mindset when it comes to
01:25:25
folding phones because the Galaxy uh Z
01:25:29
fold has always been a phone that's been
01:25:31
like oh we want you to use this open
01:25:33
most of the time and they make it a
01:25:35
little bit awkward to use unfort because
01:25:37
it's so narrow but this phone is like a
01:25:40
really nice aspect ratio closed it's
01:25:42
short and it's nice and I like it um I'm
01:25:45
really hoping that the second generation
01:25:47
is significantly better I doubt it will
01:25:49
be maybe the third generation will be uh
01:25:52
I just want a better interior screen
01:25:53
maybe some smaller bezels and that's
01:25:56
about it I really like that phone shout
01:25:57
out to the pixel fold I'm looking
01:25:58
forward to the pixel fold too as well
01:26:00
yeah yeah imagine do you know you said
01:26:02
it's narrow and awkward to use on the
01:26:04
front of the zold yeah remember the
01:26:07
essential phone 2 concept That was
01:26:09
supposed to be that like skinny phone
01:26:10
the gem phone yeah yeah yeah that so
01:26:13
many people were like excited for that I
01:26:16
think they were just excited cuz it was
01:26:17
different it's just weird and different
01:26:19
yeah but if you remember the original
01:26:21
Samsung Galaxy fold it was super slim
01:26:24
and narrow and then it just had a small
01:26:26
screen inside of the front yes it had
01:26:28
the weirdest bezels ever looking back
01:26:31
that was a very
01:26:32
first first gen the screen broke yeah I
01:26:35
mean yeah the interior screen broke so
01:26:37
um yeah awesome cool well I think that's
01:26:40
going to round it out for this episode I
01:26:42
think it's time for trivia to wrap it up
01:26:45
trivia where eyes on
01:26:48
it time for me to expose how little I
01:26:50
know
01:26:51
about scoring music for video games I
01:26:56
guess I don't know anything about I feel
01:26:57
like Ellis is gonna be upset that he's
01:26:59
not here for this
01:27:01
because Dad does sound stuff for World
01:27:03
of Warcraft or did at one point oh what
01:27:07
hasn't his family done dang close to
01:27:09
this trivia question okay Ellis is like
01:27:12
Nicki Minaj is my neighbor which of
01:27:14
these products is not a real product
01:27:16
that I've received an email about option
01:27:20
a flappy the intelligent cat door flap
01:27:24
how much AI is involved in it these are
01:27:26
all AI related unfortunately uh option b
01:27:29
Willow a smart outdoor swing set that
01:27:32
generates
01:27:33
electricity option C Jedi a medical
01:27:37
delivery drone for hospitals jenzy jenzy
01:27:41
and saber a smart pepper spray
01:27:46
device these all could be real like
01:27:48
honestly no they really all could be
01:27:50
real can you play the music oh yes yes
01:27:53
sorry
01:27:55
is this the waiting music I already saw
01:27:57
that think we're supposed to play the
01:27:58
music while you're asking the question
01:28:00
right uh technically I think it's
01:28:01
supposed to be like the Jeopardy this is
01:28:03
how much time you have to answer it's
01:28:05
broken
01:28:06
sorry cuz this doesn't seem like the
01:28:08
right music but this is what this is the
01:28:10
right music okay you guys said that the
01:28:12
same yeah we did yeah we did oh I
01:28:14
[Music]
01:28:16
missed all right flip them and read
01:28:21
boys all right DAV we all we all pick
01:28:24
the same the same one we all picked B
01:28:26
the swing set all right you are correct
01:28:30
uh would you like to read what Ellis
01:28:31
wrote about for the swing set yes um
01:28:34
Ellis did a collab on this one um Willow
01:28:37
is a revolutionary Alternative Energy
01:28:39
Solution intended for families with
01:28:41
children comprising of both photonic and
01:28:45
electromechanical transductors Willow
01:28:48
focuses on two energy sources the sun
01:28:51
via solar panels and the near unlimited
01:28:53
energy of a child uh via a series of
01:28:57
passive components aimed at turning a
01:28:59
child's kinetic energy into useful
01:29:01
energy so that's too good for CES that's
01:29:04
why that's really needs to be a PR
01:29:07
person he can really spin this stuff the
01:29:10
reason I picked that was because I was
01:29:12
like there's no way that a child is
01:29:14
going to be able to create enough energy
01:29:16
on a play set that is going to be useful
01:29:18
to your home in any way which is why
01:29:20
it's realistic but what if the
01:29:21
electricity is just like to power some
01:29:23
outdoor lights that are on the swing set
01:29:24
for your yard have you a child they have
01:29:28
energy I had heard of the smart pepper
01:29:31
spray already me too I got that email
01:29:34
for that yeah I think I saw it on like a
01:29:36
Verge article what's smart about it I
01:29:39
don't know um knows how many times has
01:29:42
Bluetooth and it connects to a safety
01:29:44
app so I guess every time so it alerts
01:29:47
someone when you're spraying some yeah
01:29:48
so it has like a map and then it sends
01:29:50
the location whenever it's deployed
01:29:52
that's actually that's really SM also
01:29:54
the smart cat door sounds like a very
01:29:57
good idea sounds handy yeah what is so
01:29:59
smart about it also has an app I'm
01:30:01
hoping that it can tell when it's been
01:30:02
used so you can maybe say like oh I
01:30:04
haven't seen my cat in a while when did
01:30:06
it go outside but also I'm hoping when
01:30:09
it comes inside maybe at night it can
01:30:10
then lock it it does yeah so the cat's
01:30:14
not going out at night it not only
01:30:16
detects when a cat tries to bring in
01:30:18
prey into your home um I don't know how
01:30:21
that works I have no idea leave that
01:30:22
bird outside it'll lock the flap also um
01:30:26
it has a prey detection camera and an
01:30:27
app experience definely a camera it's
01:30:29
just a visual AI going I see something
01:30:32
not your cat awesome interesting all
01:30:35
right I think that's cool we all got
01:30:36
points for that yeah Co that's pretty
01:30:37
sick what does that bring the time for
01:30:39
us to get it oh yeah that is a good
01:30:41
question isn't
01:30:43
it uh let's see how many songs I'm just
01:30:45
gonna guess but they were so close to
01:30:48
each other I that's why I have to guess
01:30:50
yeah we just have to guess all right I
01:30:52
have no idea either yeah
01:30:55
what if we all get it right again since
01:30:58
we all got it right it looks like
01:30:59
Marquez is at 20 points nice Andrew's at
01:31:03
14 carry the one do the whatever thank
01:31:07
thought it was good David is also tied
01:31:09
at 20 points Perfect all right 2020
01:31:12
RuneScape AB RuneScape was awarded the
01:31:15
Guinness Book of World Records for most
01:31:16
original pieces of music in a video game
01:31:19
in 2017 as of November of 2023 how many
01:31:23
total songs are there in ruinscape
01:31:26
and option A is 100 sorry option A is
01:31:32
1,589
01:31:34
songs option b is
01:31:38
1,362
01:31:40
songs option C is
01:31:43
1,027 songs and option D is 856
01:31:48
songs if you need me to read that again
01:31:50
I can read it again man that's difficult
01:31:52
they're all close
01:31:54
[Music]
01:31:56
all of them seem absurd to me so it's
01:31:58
too many either way
01:32:05
yeah I just want to get this right
01:32:08
because it's run
01:32:12
escape uh
01:32:17
okay all right smile and wave I wrote
01:32:21
C did you all write the same thing no I
01:32:24
also wrote C you said c David yeah
01:32:28
incorrect what'd you write Marquez I
01:32:30
wrote a is also incorrect option b
01:32:37
1,362 I originally wrote B but I was
01:32:39
like the last question was do I get an
01:32:41
extra point if this is what the Music
01:32:42
Cape looks like man I actually don't
01:32:44
think you're far off with that I think
01:32:46
I'm pretty close right it's like a harp
01:32:48
nice hey wait point no you guys didn't
01:32:51
know what did you write Marquez I wrote
01:32:53
1, 89 which was the first one oh okay
01:32:56
yeah H yeah they're Banger songs too
01:32:59
just saying that's too many songs
01:33:01
they're good you didn't have to go that
01:33:03
hard The Sims has like 60 and that's way
01:33:05
too many wait I recently saw a video of
01:33:07
Katy Perry recording her song for The
01:33:10
Sims and she had to do it in
01:33:13
Sim very funny would you guys like a
01:33:16
bonus question for no points or we can
01:33:18
do it for points I would like a no
01:33:20
points
01:33:21
bonus this is a an obs question for this
01:33:24
week this question is about
01:33:27
crayfish I love crawfish I love crawfish
01:33:30
see exactly so oh crayfish cads mug Mud
01:33:34
Bugs ditch bugs freshwater lobsters
01:33:38
Mountain lobsters and yabes are all the
01:33:40
name for the same creature um these
01:33:43
little Crustaceans who are close
01:33:44
relative of the main lobster can be
01:33:47
found all across the US and have dozens
01:33:49
of regional nicknames crawfish can live
01:33:51
on every continent in the world except
01:33:54
for which
01:33:57
two every continent in the world I don't
01:34:00
think I can name all the continents
01:34:02
there's less than 10 right there's seven
01:34:05
seven
01:34:06
yeah
01:34:08
right
01:34:11
right this is tough yeah cuz I'm going
01:34:17
by that is tough no I'm going I'm going
01:34:22
that
01:34:23
but I'm going be mad because I changed
01:34:25
my answer halfway all right I wrote
01:34:29
Antarctica assuming we all wrote that
01:34:31
right I did and
01:34:33
Australia you
01:34:35
are half right oh yeah and then what did
01:34:38
you have all I wrote Antarctica in
01:34:41
Asia oh damn you're close to close I
01:34:45
wrote Antarctica and then I wrote
01:34:47
Australia then crossed out and Road
01:34:49
Asia Marquez is just a hybrid of me and
01:34:52
Andrew
01:34:54
you guys America you're half right
01:34:55
you're all half right uh the two places
01:34:57
that you won't find Crawfish are
01:35:00
according to we love crawfish.com
01:35:02
uh Africa and Antarctica thinking Africa
01:35:06
maybe would you like a fun fact about
01:35:08
crawfish sure that wasn't F fact why you
01:35:11
bring up C I have a fun fact about
01:35:12
crawfish I can eat 60 in a day did you
01:35:15
do that wait have you ever sorry before
01:35:19
the fun have you ever heard the parks
01:35:20
and wck joke where he's like I think I'm
01:35:22
allergic to Sushi anytime I eat 80 Sushi
01:35:24
and throw
01:35:26
up I've not heard that wait so when did
01:35:28
you eat 60 crawfish uh a couple years
01:35:31
ago my neighbor had a party where they
01:35:32
imported a ton of them directly from
01:35:35
Louisiana and had a backyard barbecue
01:35:38
crawfish party basically and just had
01:35:39
them all stacked on a table and I just
01:35:41
sat at the table and ate them the entire
01:35:43
party Jesus they were amazing God I also
01:35:46
watched him boil them alive individually
01:35:48
have you guys gotten the Tik tocker who
01:35:50
does the Crawfish boils I have seen he's
01:35:53
been going for years Mariah why did you
01:35:54
bring that why why did you introduce
01:35:56
that question there was a video I don't
01:35:59
know if it was a bone appe petitte video
01:36:01
or like some con k Nast video it was uh
01:36:05
interviewing people from every state and
01:36:07
asking them what they call a crawfish oh
01:36:10
cry daddy probably cish I was just in
01:36:14
New Orleans over Christmas break um for
01:36:17
no reason and you mean nin Nala yeah I I
01:36:22
never knew that people called it no Nola
01:36:24
yeah yeah anyway uh there was a band
01:36:28
there that I saw called caddy problems
01:36:30
they were really good nice and uh or
01:36:32
caddy issues one of the two probably C
01:36:35
CAD issues it's a funny name but also I
01:36:37
forgot about the whole croad thing and
01:36:38
it was
01:36:39
everywhere so you couldn't forget true
01:36:43
amazing all right all right so crawfish
01:36:46
fact uh they can shed SL Mt their shells
01:36:50
up to 15 times within their lifetime and
01:36:53
each time they shed their shell they
01:36:55
double in size oh oh my God I'm glad
01:36:58
they can only do it 15 times that's a
01:37:00
lot of doubles that's exponential growth
01:37:02
they double it si the difference between
01:37:05
this a level 12 and a level 15 is crazy
01:37:08
wait what's two to the
01:37:10
15 do you know this off at the top of
01:37:12
your head ask the R 2 4 8 16 no I got
01:37:15
this 32 64 128 256 512 1024 20 48 4096
01:37:23
8,00
01:37:25
83
01:37:30
16,36 16,
01:37:33
366
01:37:35
32,0
01:37:38
722 how you do power no
01:37:42
idea 64,000
01:37:46
65,000 oh there we go
01:37:49
400 65,500
01:37:53
and 64 what was the number you said
01:37:55
before that it's
01:37:58
32,768 oh I went too far which means
01:38:00
these
01:38:01
crads by the end of their life can be
01:38:04
32,670 768 wait is it double in size of
01:38:09
the of the size of the of the original
01:38:12
size or of the new size of the new size
01:38:14
I think it's each time they just double
01:38:16
size they double double how does
01:38:17
anything get
01:38:20
32,768 times they're probably born like
01:38:22
that big man microscopic but even even
01:38:25
if it was a one a single cell organism
01:38:28
and then by the end of its life it had
01:38:30
32,768 that makes sense it's 1 cim
01:38:33
across when it's mol for the first time
01:38:35
then it's
01:38:37
32,2 m
01:38:40
across huge it can't be it's got to be
01:38:43
tiny when 33 M CAD that would be
01:38:46
incredible have you ever heard of
01:38:47
dragon's breath candy no this is a Tik
01:38:50
Tok that I saw recently but they say it
01:38:52
it expands a million times because it's
01:38:55
a you turn into a loop and then you
01:38:57
cross it over and then pull it again but
01:38:59
like a million sounds absurd but it's
01:39:01
really
01:39:02
only probably like 20 times pulling it
01:39:05
because it is doubling every time look
01:39:06
like Str and it winds up looking like
01:39:08
hair at but it's like a Taffy almost
01:39:12
interes my second tiny fact not as
01:39:14
exciting is they walk forwards but they
01:39:17
swim backwards oh yes walk forwards that
01:39:20
I did know that's all I got all right
01:39:22
fun fact I also so walk forwards swim
01:39:24
backwards that's it for this week on
01:39:26
waveform thank you guys for tuning in we
01:39:29
had uh of course a lot to talk about
01:39:30
hopefully everything we talk about as up
01:39:32
to date if it's not you can expect us
01:39:33
back next week with updates on all the
01:39:35
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01:39:38
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01:39:40
between Wednesdays so just my mattress
01:39:43
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01:39:54
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01:39:56
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01:39:58
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  • The Iconic Red Shirt
    Tom Scott's signature red shirt has become a part of his identity in videos.
    “He only wears that red shirt, which is crazy!”
    @ 03m 06s
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  • Apple Watch Controversy
    The Apple Watch faced a temporary ban but is back on sale pending a software update.
    “Apple made a software update to get around the patent infringement.”
    @ 11m 04s
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    Samsung hints at a new AI initiative, leaving many curious about its implications.
    “Samsung AI is coming! I really don’t know what that means.”
    @ 20m 05s
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    @ 28m 39s
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    The Aptera EV claims up to a thousand miles on a single charge, but can it deliver?
    “It looks like a science project that’s supposed to get a thousand miles.”
    @ 38m 02s
    January 05, 2024
  • The Future of Car Software
    As EVs become mainstream, the importance of software in cars will grow significantly.
    “Physical buttons are better than digital buttons in a car, for sure.”
    @ 43m 25s
    January 05, 2024
  • RuneScape Trivia
    A fun trivia segment about RuneScape's music library and its history.
    “RuneScape is known for many things, but especially their staggeringly large music library.”
    @ 57m 01s
    January 05, 2024
  • Tech Recommendations of 2023
    The hosts share their favorite tech from 2023, highlighting innovative products.
    “It’s always a little fun; I like recommendations sections.”
    @ 59m 33s
    January 05, 2024
  • The Rivian R1S Review
    Marquez shares his thoughts on the Rivian R1S, calling it the most well-rounded EV he's tested.
    “I had almost only good things to say about this EV.”
    @ 01h 11m 14s
    January 05, 2024
  • Eight Sleep Mattress Topper
    A high-tech mattress topper that adjusts temperature for better sleep quality.
    “This thing is so sick! I love mine so much.”
    @ 01h 16m 52s
    January 05, 2024
  • Pixel Fold Phone
    The Pixel Fold offers a unique pocketbook style with great software integration.
    “I really like that phone!”
    @ 01h 25m 57s
    January 05, 2024
  • Crawfish Fun Facts
    Crawfish can shed their shells up to 15 times, doubling in size each time!
    “They can shed their shells up to 15 times!”
    @ 01h 36m 50s
    January 05, 2024

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