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wait is it double in size of the of the
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size of the of the original size or of
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the new size of the new size I think
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it's each time they just double size
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double double dou how does anything get
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32,768 times they're probably born like
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that big maybe microscopic got but even
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even if it was a one a single cell
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organism and then by the end of its life
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it had
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32,768 C that makes sense it's 1 cm
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across when it's moles for the first
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time then it's 32
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32 M
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acoss huge it can't be it's got to be
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tiny when 33 meter
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croad all right what is up people of the
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internet welcome back to another episode
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of the way for podcast it's 2024 we're
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your hosts I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and
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I'm David and uh kicking off this New
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Year actually Ellis and Adam are both at
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the same time on welld deserved just
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kidding just kidding they are taking
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breaks so we have new producer in the
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house today Mariah on the board that's a
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she's rubbing her hands together like
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she's got devious plans she's got too
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much she's learned the board already
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ready but I don't know if you're ready a
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lot of power a lot of power over there
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but uh yeah we we're back to all the
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tech news catching up to everything
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there was a obviously a fun show for the
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end of last year but now there's a bunch
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of news that we got to catch up on a
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little bit so we have an update on the
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Apple watch ban the car that got
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announced which I have thoughts about
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some of the announcements uh Samsung
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unpacked is also in it's it's right in
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front of us yeah it's about it's about
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to kick off the year like CES and
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unpacked we know it's happening and we
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also want to wrap up with uh some of our
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favorite tech from last year yeah we got
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some some individual picks none of us
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know each other's picks either yeah we
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hit it so there may be some hot takes I
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don't know what you guys picked and
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possibly some overlap possibly that's a
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good point so we'll get there but before
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we start uh we have to talk about a
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video that I'm sure we've all watched uh
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Tom Scott who we've had on the podcast
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before released a video uh saying after
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10 years it's time to stop making videos
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that's the title of this video it's more
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of a retrospective on his last 10 years
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of not missing a single day of weekly
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uploads which I just want to say that's
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a lot harder than you think insane like
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it sounds pretty hard but it's even
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harder than you think to do every single
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week and especially the the quality of
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videos that he gets to do and some of
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fun stuff that he produces I think you
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described that well it is very hard when
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you think about it and it is still
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harder than what you think about it yeah
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he said something in that video that I
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resonated a lot with which is you you
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sometimes you get to weeks where you
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don't really have much and you kind of
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think you might have to put out filler
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but you can't uh make worse production
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quality than you usually do you only you
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only have to go up you only have the
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ability to go up because the audience is
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used to better and better stuff so he
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just kept topping himself over and over
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again for 10 years which is pretty
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impressive yeah you know what's crazy
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about Tom Scott you know that red shirt
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that he wears mhm so he only wears that
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red shirt which is crazy I I went back
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in his discography and just like saw
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everything all of his videos he's always
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wearing that red shirt and that gray
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hoodie too is like his maybe it's a
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little chili outside I'll wear the
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hoodie the ex that exact red shirt my
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grandpa always used to wear and he gave
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me when he died and I wore that for like
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three years like exact same one exact
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same one but it was like before Tom
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Scott started making videos when I was a
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kid I used it as like a night before Tom
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Scott made it cool yeah we were cool I
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was a Fruit of the Loom red shirt
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hipster how do you know that it's the
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same yeah it's the same I wore that
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shirt for like 3 years you just looked
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at it and you knew I knew Tom if you're
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listening Thief send me your shirt
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you're done making
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videos give away the shirt but shout out
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to Tom if you haven't watched his videos
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If you also haven't watched him
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absolutely destroy the alphabet typing
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test which was one of most impressive
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things he's still won on our leaderboard
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right now by like a full second spoiler
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alert he he crushed it and so you should
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watch that episode yeah if only to see
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that he also still will make videos he
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has other channels and I think he said
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he will come back to his eventually but
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just not keeping that he's taking a
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break and not doing the weekly upload
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stuff anymore yeah he's going to still
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make videos he's just not forcing
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himself to make videos he has a fun
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podcast too that I was on where it's
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sort of like a game show type thing yeah
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I've listened to it before so if you
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enjoy our game show moments you might
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enjoy that one too um I thought it would
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be fun cuz he has so many videos and I
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know we all watch them if we all named
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our favorite one from him just in case
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somebody out there doesn't watch him and
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wants a good idea for one okay yeah do
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you want to go first sure since Marquez
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is obviously searching now I'm going on
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right
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now uh he has a video called this video
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has X views but the X updates every time
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there's a view basically which crazy uh
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it currently has over 70 million views
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so if you go on YouTube and search Tom
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Scott this video has X views it'll show
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up and it'll just be updated with the
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current view count yeah and it's funny
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he uh he wrote some code basically that
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just consistently updates it and in the
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video he's like this will probably break
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around like 3 million views or so and it
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just never broke it's just still going
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which is amazing um so I think I think
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that was pretty cool it was it was
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pretty early on into like YouTube giving
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public features being able to do stuff
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and uh it's cool that YouTube never like
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saw that and then stopped it from being
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able to do that and actually now YouTube
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does live view counts so when you're
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watching a video The Views literally
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tick up so yeah like that one that's
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definitely been copied since then as
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well I've seen multiple ones of like
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this get this video needs this many or
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like something like that that's like
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live reacting to it but yeah yeah it's a
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good one I have one that I'll always
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remember because it's just like his
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videos are awesome because there these
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little tiny pieces of information that
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are fun to like throw out there he has
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one called um I visited Yellowstone zone
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of death which is okay a very short
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video and essentially because of the the
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way the sixth amendment is worded in the
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US where if you are in trial for being
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accused of a crime you need an impartial
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jury of the state and District because
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Yellowstone is a federal district and
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one of the only Federal districts that
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crosses state lines there's this like
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one M strip in Idaho where federally
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it's considered the Yellowstone district
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and by state it's considered Idaho and
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there are no people who live there so
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you technically couldn't get a jury to
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have a trial if you committed a crime
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there so why doesn't everyone kill
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everyone I'm sure I'm sure if it
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actually went to court it would probably
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be they would find a way to do it but
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it's very funny because he went there
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and like I think in the description of
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the video he's like um a car did drive
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by and I was very nervous when it
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happened and he it's like a six-minute
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video and he was in and out as fast as
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possible well now I know where to bury a
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body perfect well you have to commit the
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crime there as well oh I could do that
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well there is no cops so I guess uh
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anyone ever invites you there do not
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go um I do have one that I remember and
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this was this one's a much older one
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it's 6 years old but uh there are a
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couple of these in the world but certain
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roads where when you drive on them the
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ridges in the road create music I
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remember this video and he made yeah he
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made a video about uh when that's in
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California and how it kind of sounds
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terrible because if you drive at the
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wrong speed it's out of speed it just
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doesn't it's not it's not it doesn't
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work very well yeah but it's still cool
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that it's a thing right I thought that
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was F I feel like that's cool that it's
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a thing when you if you drive on that
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road once if that happens to be the
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commute I mean it be fun I don't know is
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it only the sides in the rumble ship or
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it's it's only on the sides right okay
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so you have to purposely go off the road
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a little bit decide to do it okay cool
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that's fun do you have one Mariah did
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you know we were going fan favorite is
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the Tom Scott vape pen clip
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highlight of him choking on the vape pen
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I'll send it if you haven't seen it
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choking on you never SE it's so fun 15
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seconds of yeah it's just him coughing
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what's the video again it doesn't matter
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what the video is don't even know yeah
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that is a thing that that also happened
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and was memed relentlessly honestly I
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also give him a lot of credit for
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filming most of his videos
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outside yes because that's just a
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nightmare with like wind and light and
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the fact that he does most of them
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outside is a big and we talked about it
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on the podcast but I think he's the best
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teleprompter reader I've ever seen for
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real like ever yeah there was a great
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snippet of the podcast where he talked
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about that where he just like got really
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good at it cuz you always wonder like
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there there's all these videos where
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he's just standing on a beach and he's
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just walking towards you on the beach
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and he talks for like 20 minutes and
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you're just like how yeah how did you do
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this and he he talked about it in a pod
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so go watch that but basically he writes
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in the same style that he talks so
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because he writes everything he's able
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to just talk naturally in a way that
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feels like he's just talking yeah it's
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really good it's hard to do it's hard to
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do when I write scripts I definitely
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like I go back over it and speak them
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out and then change the words to make it
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sound more like I'm actually talking
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yeah yeah if you don't know Tom Scott go
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watch his channel and some heavy sh
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there's a lot of stuff when you publish
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every week you just kind of cover this
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insanely broad swath of topics and he
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covers it very well but yeah all right
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so we have an update yet again because
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this is the waveform update podcast
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where things happen and then they
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change yeah it is an unfortunate truth
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that we record on Wednesdays and things
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happen in between Wednesday and
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Wednesday so we have an update on the
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Apple watch band yeah uh the last time
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we talked about this was two weeks ago
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because last week we had pre-recorded
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the uh end of the year episode so that
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we could take a week off for Christmas
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but basically at uh the last episode
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where we talked about this the Apple
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watch was about to get banned um it did
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very temporarily uh they were actually
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off sale online starting on December
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21st and they were out of stores
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starting on December 26th I heard it was
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a lot of fun for employees to like go
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through all the stores and take them off
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the shelves and off of the display
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tables and put them back yeah and I
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hadn't thought of it that they have to
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do that right around Christmas which is
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like hundreds of people buying last
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minute gifts at the Apple store so yeah
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Kudos shout out to all the Apple retail
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employees out there that probably had a
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rough week I hope you're relaxing now
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yeah no no so the update basically is
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that they actually did take it off sale
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for a little bit but then uh Apple
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basically made a software update that
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they think will be able to get around
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the patent infringement so they
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submitted that software update to the
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International Trade Commission to see if
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that was enough to get around um and in
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the interim period they are now allowed
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to sell the Apple watch again until
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January 12th when the ITC decides
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whether or not that software update was
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enough uh if it's not back off sale
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they're going to have to change out a
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hardware piece it's probably going to
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take a long time to do that um Apple
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probably has a pretty quick supply chain
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considering it's apple and a huge amount
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of their wearable sales as Apple watch
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yeah but uh yeah part of me would want
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to think like oh well they'll just
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discontinue it till the series 10 but
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the series 10 is definitely being made
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already like yeah so that's that's a
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great Point actually that's a very big
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problem a very Tim Cook thing thing like
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he's a supply chain Guy this is a very
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supply chain annoying problem to have
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for that company so they're probably
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trying to brainstorm way I mean I'm sure
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they've been thinking about this but now
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they need to figure out a way to
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continue to sell watches until the new
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watch comes out but not make it like too
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much of an announcement because you
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don't want to have an announcement for a
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new watch that's on sale right before
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the new new watch is on sale so there's
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there's question marks there the
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software update thing would definitely
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be the most idealistic thing for them
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because then they could just update all
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the series 10s that they're making right
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now is that do we is that pushed that
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software update or they just submitted
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it they submitted it to the ITC to see
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if it's like enough mimo still thinks
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that they need a hardware change
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obviously do you think they're just
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disabling the blood oxygen features and
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like call it in a day I don't I don't
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think they'll do that so last time when
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we did talk about that I actually got a
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lot of people I said I thought blood
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oxygen was fairly irrelevant and a lot
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of people told me what they really liked
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it for and apparently sleep apnea and
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sleeping and how you're breathing when
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you're sleeping it does a good job at at
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telling if you have a hard time during
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that and it helped people diagnose sleep
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AP that is actually cool and pretty damn
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common we got a lot of comments saying
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like this is actually way more helpful
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than you guys think which is surprising
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um it's interesting seeing like a bunch
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of people in the real world who are
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saying it is and then us who's saying it
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not so thank you for letting us know if
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it's useful to you yeah there's
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definitely going to be people that it's
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useful for it might be a vocal minority
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thing where it's it's a small fraction
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of people but the people who do find it
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useful really like like it so they're
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vocal about it totally makes sense uh
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but yeah Apple's going to try to keep it
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in there cuz that's it's a feature that
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they've advertised and talked about and
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means a lot so yeah I think I've come to
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my own conclusion that I find it hard to
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not see just Massimo that's their name
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getting a big old check soon from Apple
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yeah they say they' reached out to Apple
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and just offered to have them pay them
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and that Apple never replied because I
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think Apple just doesn't want to lose
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they got a little bit of Leverage now
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lot of Leverage that's going to be a fat
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check if that's what happens it's funny
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cuz them you could see why they wouldn't
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want to do it because if if one company
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successfully does it and gets a check
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then every other company's like huh I
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wonder what we can get a check for so
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they just want to not have it work but
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now that they've let it get this far
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masimo has a ton of we yeah because
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masimo took the very long process of
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getting to this point of having lots of
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governing bodies agree with them and
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yeah I mean that's just wild to force
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Apple to take an Apple Watch off the
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shelves like that is gigantic I know
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there's so many lawsuits against apple
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and nothing ever happens so yeah so
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unfortunately uh for you guys the pause
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lasts until exactly one week from today
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next Friday so next week we probably
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still won't have an update unless unless
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they figure it out before Friday but I
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think they're going to figure it out on
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Friday so in two weeks you'll probably
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know uh whether or not the Apple watch
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is still for sale or not um but that's
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the update for now and we try to do our
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best to keep you as up toate as we can
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yeah but time moves so moves quick moves
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quick faster than we edit moves quick so
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we'll keep our eye on it with that let's
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uh let's take it to a quick trivia and
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AD break oh Mariah was ready for that
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trivia on the trigger for that
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oneck all right CES is right around the
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corner ladies and gentlemen it's
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happening um the Consumer Electronics
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Show is known for having some crazy
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inventions and Tech products but CES is
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also known for destroying your inbox
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with PR emails yes which of these
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products is not a real product that I've
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received an email about oh God so option
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A is Flappy and intelligent cat door
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flap for your door definitely real um
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option b is Willow a smart wooden swing
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set that generates electricity for your
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backyard that's hold it for later hold
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it for later sorry uh option C Jedi
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which is a medical delivery drone for
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hospitals and option D which is saber a
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smart pepper spray
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device save your thoughts forat I just
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want to say s is the only time where we
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can do name the fake one versus name the
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real one cuz normally Ellis has to make
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three fake ones but CS is so wild that
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that's what we can do I love it it's a
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lot I have c s
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TSD from going to CS2 I get it I I get
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it it works well we'll think about those
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for a little bit answers will be at the
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end as usual yeah we'll be right
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back all right welcome back we got to
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talk about unpacked Samsung unpacked is
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coming up so we already know CES starts
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off the year and I think for a lot of
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people that's the bookend for the tech
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cycle for the entire year CES at the
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beginning end of the year stuff for the
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end of the
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year but as someone who's I'll call it
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extremely jaded uh I've stopped paying
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as much attention to CES I kind of still
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hope we see cool stuff at CES yeah but I
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ultimately think there's like a couple
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Diamonds in the Rough but then we we
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start to get the Heavy Hitters moving
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out of CES into their own events I think
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trade shows overall are kind of losing
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interest like uh E3 is not even
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happening anymore it's officially dead
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mwc is also like kind quiet now yeah so
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I'm I'm going to watch it but I think
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for me it's becoming the Samsung event
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at the beginning of the year that book
00:17:36
ends the year for me and so unpacked we
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have an announcement date it is well let
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me check I January 17th 17th thank you
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which also real quick on date does this
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feel like it gets pushed a week earlier
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and earlier when is it it's going to be
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before CES soon enough I feel like as
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long as it doesn't move before New
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Year's it's fine I that's what I was
00:17:54
going to say though at what point does
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this Notch just move till December it
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moves forward constantly I think they
00:17:59
always want to be like one of the first
00:18:01
ones out of the gate with the new
00:18:02
Snapdragon chipset and that's like why
00:18:04
they're doing that yeah I looked last
00:18:06
year was February 9th I believe but I I
00:18:09
know it's been in January before so
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maybe 2022 had it but yeah I just feel
00:18:14
like it is creeping closer and closer no
00:18:17
February yeah okay yeah they just went
00:18:19
two weeks sooner this year sick so we're
00:18:22
creeping up earlier into the year but
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we're basically expecting some of the
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usual suspects S2 24 s24 plus s24 Ultra
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and then there was this announcement or
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a sort of a teaser that they posted that
00:18:37
said Samsung AI MH and I don't love or
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hate this like I I kind of am looking
00:18:44
forward to a lot of interesting AI
00:18:45
things in 2024 we've had a lot of them
00:18:47
in the past year or two but Samsung AI
00:18:51
what does that mean Bixby stuff is that
00:18:54
is that what that isan that would be
00:18:55
interesting it would be I think that's a
00:18:56
good word yeah interesting what do you
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think is interesting that Samsung's
00:19:00
doing AI or do you think bixby's coming
00:19:02
back well I think bixby's dead I think
00:19:05
this is the official death of Bixby yeah
00:19:07
well it could be a rebranding moment for
00:19:09
Bixby it could be a total revamp for
00:19:11
like Bixby is this new multimodal focus
00:19:13
of the phones or it could be some
00:19:16
totally new Samsung Ai and they just
00:19:18
dropped the Bixby name and it's just
00:19:19
Samsung AI they could be pulling a Mr
00:19:21
Peanut where they killed Mr Peanut and
00:19:24
then they brought they bigger and better
00:19:27
as a baby Bixby interesting yeah baby
00:19:29
Groot type stuff I don't know I'm I'm
00:19:31
curious I do think the AI thing will be
00:19:34
very heavy focused for the entire year
00:19:37
Samsung and Google have been like
00:19:39
weirdly tight knit and close for the
00:19:41
last like three years too so like
00:19:44
apparently assistant on like Bard with
00:19:47
the Google Assistant with Bard is
00:19:48
launching fairly soon there's there was
00:19:51
a bunch of rumors that were going out
00:19:52
this week about it launching in the like
00:19:53
the next couple weeks or months so maybe
00:19:57
they like launch it on a Galaxy Device
00:20:00
oh yeah I mean that' be cool but they're
00:20:02
calling it Samsung AI I Galaxy AI is
00:20:05
what they called it Galaxy AI I think
00:20:07
that's what it's called in the teaser
00:20:08
yeah so I would yeah galaxy AI is coming
00:20:12
I really don't know what that means
00:20:13
that's what I think it's that's why I
00:20:15
think Bixby is gone I think this is the
00:20:17
new name let's rank this from worst
00:20:20
possibilities to best possibilities
00:20:21
worst possibility is it's a slight bump
00:20:25
to Bixby as it already exists and it's
00:20:27
annoyingly bad no there's a worse
00:20:29
possibility but go ahead
00:20:31
okay there's
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a um but I think optimistically Galaxy
00:20:38
AI is a giant focus on software features
00:20:42
that have ai behind them powering them
00:20:45
on the phones and that can uniquely
00:20:47
differentiate some of the things on this
00:20:49
phone from other phones that come out do
00:20:51
you have ideas in my eyes worst case
00:20:55
scenario is we never get the Bixby
00:20:57
speaker because now BX is dead still had
00:21:00
hopes for it oh the Galaxy home
00:21:02
technically it was called the Galaxy the
00:21:04
Galaxy home AI now but um I think I
00:21:07
think Bixby is gone completely um andit
00:21:11
that's bad news is that the best case
00:21:13
scenario the worst scenar for the the
00:21:15
user experience probably best case um
00:21:19
but yeah now yeah what is your okay so
00:21:22
my my best case scenario is that they
00:21:25
just lowkey integrate thing like
00:21:27
Transformer models in to everything like
00:21:29
apple the only the only times they've
00:21:32
ever really mentioned AI is when they
00:21:33
say like Transformers now are powering
00:21:37
the keyboard I would love if like if
00:21:39
Samsung keyboard got updated with like a
00:21:41
Transformer architecture in the
00:21:42
background if it was like lowkey stuff
00:21:45
that would be great we know it's not
00:21:46
going to be lowkey stuff this
00:21:48
announcement suggests not lowkey yeah my
00:21:51
worst case scenario okay is that they're
00:21:53
going to have like an on device uh image
00:21:57
generator and
00:21:59
you know how they have the uh Samsung
00:22:01
like memojis what do they call it yeah
00:22:03
there's a name for it there's too many
00:22:04
there it's either an emoji or or bit
00:22:07
mimoji oh there's too many yeah they're
00:22:09
probably going to like have some sort of
00:22:12
AI mimoji thing just say Emoji but my my
00:22:17
best guess is that they're going to have
00:22:18
some random like image AI image
00:22:21
generator for some reason cuz uh
00:22:23
Qualcomm has been like consistently like
00:22:25
putting out tests of how quickly they
00:22:27
can make an image on device right like
00:22:30
this is this is going to be a lot of the
00:22:33
features of the phone will be dependent
00:22:34
on what Snapdragon 8 gen 3 focuses on so
00:22:38
I assume if we already had the the
00:22:39
Snapdragon Summit already they've talked
00:22:41
about okay yes the the main chips the
00:22:44
main processors are more powerful it's
00:22:46
more efficient yes but now we have all
00:22:47
these new cores and capabilities for on
00:22:49
device AI stuff yeah so now it's up to
00:22:52
every OEM to take advantage of those to
00:22:54
differentiate their phone o okay we're
00:22:56
Samsung we're GNA have some crazy on
00:22:59
device image generation or some large
00:23:02
language model that does cool stuff with
00:23:04
keyboard something like that they'll
00:23:05
probably have like a wallpaper generator
00:23:08
yeah yeah yeah that's I think that's
00:23:10
kind of cooline it's cool it's flashy
00:23:12
for the presentation the thing that
00:23:14
would be not flashy that I wish it would
00:23:16
do and maybe other phones did it and I
00:23:18
feel like we talked about this with like
00:23:19
an Amazon fire stick or something but
00:23:21
just like a chatbot that helps you with
00:23:24
just like settings and things that are
00:23:26
going on with your phone like the
00:23:28
setting search tab is kind of a pain in
00:23:29
the ass sometimes when you don't name
00:23:31
something exactly what it is but like
00:23:34
Contex aware yeah if it was context
00:23:36
aware and could help you actually change
00:23:38
settings and stuff on your phone
00:23:39
especially for people who don't know
00:23:41
about phones very much it would help way
00:23:42
more than a Verizon store because a lot
00:23:44
of those people have no idea what
00:23:45
they're talking about true um and it
00:23:48
would help all of us from when our um
00:23:51
Family calls us to help with their phone
00:23:53
which is very hard to do when they're
00:23:54
talking on that phone and you have to
00:23:56
teach them how to do something oh good
00:23:57
point yeah so like I would love for just
00:23:59
to open the settings tab and be like why
00:24:01
are my pictures blurry or what is this
00:24:04
but yeah it'll probably be flashy stuff
00:24:06
like camera camer photo editing maybe I
00:24:09
think wallpapers Is AO photo editing I
00:24:11
think is like the most obvious Magic
00:24:13
Eraser or something generative Phill I
00:24:16
don't even know what Google calls all
00:24:17
this stuff yeah generative fill or like
00:24:19
moving stuff magic magic editor Magic
00:24:21
Eraser magic magic magic magic magic
00:24:24
they'll call it Samsung AI magic
00:24:26
something I think worst case scenario
00:24:28
would be if Samsung created a clippy
00:24:31
like creature that was Bixby that was
00:24:33
just chilling in the bottom of your
00:24:35
phone all the time that's
00:24:37
best that's game changer for me yeah I
00:24:40
want a little Emoji a little what would
00:24:42
Bixby look like clippy 100% is the one
00:24:46
that would look like clippy I'm I'm
00:24:48
going like greenish with a clown nose
00:24:51
like if the pillsberry Doughboy was
00:24:53
green and an alien that's my are you
00:24:56
going to ask I'm going to ask chbt to
00:24:57
make a photo of clippy of clippy or of
00:25:01
sorry Bixby okay while you're on that
00:25:03
there were uh some very minor leaks of
00:25:08
possible s24 features yeah one of them
00:25:11
was just a straight up ad that was on
00:25:12
like a like a counter in some retail
00:25:15
store that looked like it was the s24
00:25:16
ultra and it looks basically just like
00:25:18
the s23 ultra but silver maybe a
00:25:21
titanium rail yeah so from the back it
00:25:23
looks exactly the same as the s23 ultra
00:25:25
there is a rumor that it might have a
00:25:27
totally flat front which I'd be happy
00:25:29
about I think that would be awesome
00:25:30
because they've been getting slightly
00:25:31
more flat every year they had like
00:25:34
peeled over the edges for S21 Ultra and
00:25:36
then they mostly flattened it for s22
00:25:38
and s23 and they could go the only phone
00:25:41
that's really actually fully flat is the
00:25:43
iPhone right now like they they just go
00:25:44
straight 90 degrees on the corners I'd
00:25:47
be into a flat phones the um do you
00:25:50
remember the s or the note 20 the
00:25:53
regular one that was flat right note 20
00:25:57
remember two versions and the note 20
00:26:00
was like everyone loved the form factor
00:26:02
and everything except that the specs
00:26:03
were way worse the 20 was the plastic
00:26:05
one right I think so it was the cheaper
00:26:07
version of the two glastic yes I think
00:26:11
oh no maybe that wasn't totally flat the
00:26:14
huge bezel the ultra had Curve screen
00:26:17
surprised I did that the ultra had curve
00:26:19
curve for sure I just remember everyone
00:26:21
liking the size and the form factor of
00:26:23
the note 20 but the specs were so much
00:26:25
worse compared to the note and when you
00:26:27
buy a note you kind of want that but um
00:26:29
I don't know I think totally flat the
00:26:30
other rumor though I do like about the
00:26:32
s24 and s24 plus versions are
00:26:35
supposively they're flattening the edges
00:26:38
kind of like the um iPhone 11 to iPhone
00:26:41
12 where we had rounded edges versus
00:26:42
flat edges on the side of it the rails I
00:26:46
think that would be awesome yeah I
00:26:49
honestly I love my zen phone the ultra
00:26:52
wide camera has left some to be desired
00:26:56
and I want a case for it and just
00:26:58
there's not a lot of case options s24
00:27:02
regular size there's going to be way
00:27:04
more accessories an extra triple camera
00:27:07
I might go to the s24 I on that though I
00:27:10
hate Samsung we'll see what happens it's
00:27:12
been a long time since I've used I every
00:27:15
time I daily a Samsung phone I do have
00:27:17
to spend extra time making it usable
00:27:20
software wise just for my own taste yeah
00:27:23
I think I use Nova Launcher on my Note 8
00:27:25
at least is that around I don't I know
00:27:28
weirdly enough though I apparently never
00:27:30
took it out of the app drawer on my
00:27:31
phone and it's kept moving and I just
00:27:34
recently took it off my zen phone cuz
00:27:35
it's moved so many phones since then
00:27:38
like I've never opened it but it's just
00:27:39
been sitting there and you can launch it
00:27:41
from that icon and it'll jump into the
00:27:42
launcher yeah I never I never opened it
00:27:45
again so I just recently got rid of it
00:27:47
maybe I'll have to bring it back if I go
00:27:48
that's 24 rout but all I'm kind of
00:27:50
excited low key yeah well we got some
00:27:53
car stuff to talk about
00:27:55
too can I even call this a car or this
00:27:58
just it's a it's totally a car it's a
00:28:01
car just made by a phone SL everything
00:28:03
else you could also call it Vapor but
00:28:05
let's call it car for now let's try it
00:28:07
okay so XI they actually have one though
00:28:10
there's one that's well you can make one
00:28:13
everyone can make one Sony made a car
00:28:15
yeah once yeah so okay xiaomi announced
00:28:18
the su7 EV their first car it is fully
00:28:22
electric it has all kinds of inspiration
00:28:25
from the Porsche tyan I mean if you see
00:28:27
photo of this thing yeah 75% of it looks
00:28:30
like a Porsche tyan and there's some
00:28:32
some slight adaptations for things like
00:28:35
headlights and and handles but it it
00:28:37
looks pretty good that's the one car it
00:28:39
looks the most like which is a good
00:28:40
looking car yeah can if you read that
00:28:42
name though the su7 EV yeah it basically
00:28:46
has SUV in the title and I'm immediately
00:28:49
thinking SUV it's not an SUV it's very
00:28:51
much a sedan it looks good it looks
00:28:53
really good uh so yeah I think the
00:28:55
highlight of it is the design I'm going
00:28:57
to read the specs but I'm going to
00:29:00
careful I think the highlights the specs
00:29:01
well that's what I was going to say is
00:29:03
I'm going to be careful to say that I
00:29:04
don't believe that most of these specs
00:29:07
will actually happen so it is a
00:29:09
highlight that they're trying this but I
00:29:12
I'll read the specs let me just let me
00:29:14
know what you think okay up to 35,000
00:29:17
RPM Motor 668
00:29:20
horsepower uh up to 800 kilm of range so
00:29:26
that's about 500 500 miles of range but
00:29:31
wait but
00:29:33
also a long range version that will ship
00:29:36
later with 1,200 km of range 750 mil of
00:29:42
range cool I wish okay I'll keep going
00:29:46
800 volt architecture so it can charge
00:29:48
137 mil in 5 minutes or you can add 37
00:29:52
mil and 15 minutes of charging not sure
00:29:55
what charger uh hyper OS so they have
00:29:58
the software that matches the xiaomi
00:30:00
smartphones and then all the design
00:30:02
stuff that I'm sure you're seeing in the
00:30:04
video version of this podcast do we
00:30:06
think this car achieves a single one of
00:30:10
these specs I think all of these or well
00:30:14
not all of them two of them are very
00:30:15
closely connected and I don't think the
00:30:18
charging is as absurd if you can believe
00:30:21
the range because 3177 M 15 minutes is a
00:30:25
percentage of the battery in Peak
00:30:27
charging so if the battery is actually
00:30:30
750 mil that seems totally plausible but
00:30:34
that would still imply you need to
00:30:36
charge cuz we don't have a do we have a
00:30:39
kilowatt hour size of the battery that
00:30:40
they're promising I think they did have
00:30:41
one I think it was like only like 13 it
00:30:44
was not even that big oh let me see if
00:30:46
they okay so maybe I'm wrong there but
00:30:48
when I first see yes 15 minutes 3177
00:30:51
miles sounds crazy but to a battery
00:30:54
that's so big if you can keep Peak
00:30:56
charging for longer because logically
00:30:58
that checks out there this is only a
00:31:01
73.6 for the standard and 101 for the
00:31:05
long range so the same size as a Tesla
00:31:08
Model 3 Model S yeah the 73 or the 100
00:31:11
73 is a Tesla Model 3 more or less 100
00:31:14
there are cars out mil range there are
00:31:16
cars out there with 100 Kow hour battery
00:31:18
packs Model S the model S and what's the
00:31:20
range on that 47 on a good day 350 I
00:31:25
think they claim the long range to go
00:31:26
about 400 yeah okay so this one's
00:31:30
claiming they're claiming
00:31:33
750 yeah insane 750 like I at least if
00:31:37
they claimed like a reasonable range I
00:31:39
might think that this car might exist
00:31:41
but because they went straight to 700
00:31:43
miles of range I now don't think this
00:31:45
car will ever exist that's I didn't
00:31:47
realize the battery pack comparison of
00:31:48
it I thought they're just kind of going
00:31:50
crazy is xiaomi's test track just 700
00:31:53
miles of
00:31:55
downhill it's actually gaining battery
00:31:57
the entire time it's just a wild claim
00:32:00
it's supposed to have a self-driving
00:32:02
there was a video out there that showed
00:32:04
it parking in a parking structure where
00:32:06
it just like Goes Around in Circles a
00:32:08
bunch and then it like it almost hits a
00:32:10
car but then it backs up and the other
00:32:12
car goes around it and then it it parks
00:32:14
in the most like inconvenient parking
00:32:15
space possible that's the most
00:32:16
believable thing about the car yeah the
00:32:18
fact that it will go park itself in a
00:32:20
garage yeah you know they say it might
00:32:22
be 2024 when this comes out we're we're
00:32:24
living in the year 2024 I don't I mean I
00:32:28
have to take it somewhat seriously
00:32:29
because it's xiaomi and they are really
00:32:31
announcing it and this isn't CES like
00:32:33
this is an announcement of a car by
00:32:35
itself yeah if it by the way if you see
00:32:38
a new car announced at CES I'm just
00:32:40
going to tell you to confidently assume
00:32:42
that that car is never coming out don't
00:32:44
don't assume that you will ever be able
00:32:46
to buy that car if they had announced
00:32:48
this at CES we'd be like it's definitely
00:32:50
not yeah that would be confirmation
00:32:51
that's all the confirmation I need that
00:32:52
this car is never coming out because
00:32:54
it's its own event outside of CES I have
00:32:56
to go all right well yeah I guess it's
00:32:58
sh me doing a thing yeah I was just
00:33:00
looking at old photos and I saw what
00:33:03
what was it called the Nissan
00:33:05
MX I or something from 2020 yeah yeah
00:33:10
it's a cool looking car but a super
00:33:11
concept when you go to CES and the seats
00:33:14
are like lighting up and there's no
00:33:15
steering
00:33:17
wheel enjoy the 10
00:33:20
seconds it's like 75% of the cars there
00:33:22
was a BMW once that we sat in and it was
00:33:27
so protot might be that when marar tried
00:33:28
to scoot through the back seat they were
00:33:31
like wait wait wait can you step out and
00:33:33
come to the other side of the door the
00:33:35
middle of that se's cardboard yeah it
00:33:37
just it'll collapse collapse yeah so
00:33:39
like if this was just a random EV
00:33:41
startup that announced these I'd be like
00:33:42
it's definitely not coming out zero that
00:33:44
would be 0% but xiaomi makes like
00:33:46
everything which is why it's just above
00:33:48
zero but they actually make every yeah I
00:33:51
mean yeah just above zero cuz if you if
00:33:53
you'd ask me what company on planet
00:33:54
Earth has the best opportunity to show
00:33:56
up out of nowhere and ship an EV with
00:33:59
750 m of range on a 100 KW battery
00:34:03
xiaomi would be nowhere near the top of
00:34:04
the list I would think okay who has the
00:34:06
best most advanced Battery tech and
00:34:08
drivetrains and efficiency we're talking
00:34:10
about lucid Tesla the absolute the the
00:34:14
top stuff in in EV world and xiaomi's
00:34:17
never shipped a car so I mean they're
00:34:20
they're confidently putting models of
00:34:22
this car in xiaomi stores which is easy
00:34:25
to do you can put a model car in a store
00:34:27
store that's super super simple but I
00:34:29
just don't believe that it will actually
00:34:31
have those specs it is interesting
00:34:33
though like David was saying that the
00:34:35
fact that it's xiaoi and it's a big
00:34:36
company and announcing this has way more
00:34:38
risk for a large company that already
00:34:41
has other products they have to worry
00:34:42
about like if you just told me these
00:34:44
anev coming out with these specs I'd be
00:34:46
like all right it's a pickup truck from
00:34:48
a company I've never heard of that 300
00:34:50
Kow hour battery yeah and of and the
00:34:53
first thing on the website is a reserve
00:34:55
your pay as $300 to reserve you
00:34:58
buy someon next to it um but the fact
00:35:01
that a jiai does change this and like
00:35:03
you said a bit more hopeful I think I'm
00:35:06
a tad more hopeful than you I don't see
00:35:09
it hitting those specs that's a w like
00:35:12
750 miles out of nowhere but I trust
00:35:17
xiaoi doing it more than the like random
00:35:20
startup getting billions of dollars from
00:35:22
investment funds like coming out of
00:35:25
nowhere so if you had to assign a
00:35:27
percent chance you think of this car
00:35:29
actually delivering with let's say 500
00:35:31
mil yeah yeah let's say the standard
00:35:34
version The 500 Mile version what
00:35:37
percent chance do you give this exact
00:35:39
card does it have to be 2024 or just
00:35:41
percent chance it comes
00:35:42
out that it comes out in the next two
00:35:45
years cuz this is China they they they
00:35:48
develop Battery tech very quickly they
00:35:50
do they ship the craziest fastest
00:35:51
charging phones ever yeah yeah exactly
00:35:54
so is that what's going to happen are we
00:35:55
just going to get mind-blowingly fast
00:35:57
charging but you can't get uned
00:35:59
States and they're not using they're
00:36:01
definitely not using
00:36:02
nacs right I give this 15% chance 15
00:36:06
that's actually more than I thought say
00:36:08
that's the same percent um of Andrew's
00:36:12
diet think about it Mak you think so 15%
00:36:16
that it hits 500 miles in the next two
00:36:18
years yeah next two years 15% of my diet
00:36:21
is cha played but I you've been studying
00:36:24
that board I appreciate it yeah I mean
00:36:27
it's hard to say like they haven't given
00:36:29
a price or release date yet right they
00:36:33
said 2024 I think this is regardless of
00:36:35
price they could have said 60 Grand they
00:36:37
could have said 600 Grand I still don't
00:36:38
think you can give a 73 Kow hour battery
00:36:41
5 range I don't think EV companies have
00:36:43
straight away from being extremely
00:36:45
expensive and still aren't hitting these
00:36:47
numbers so xiaomi I don't think price
00:36:50
has to do with it they also haven't said
00:36:52
where they're going to sell it which is
00:36:53
sad they probably won't sell it in the
00:36:55
US probably not yeah possibly e either
00:36:58
way unless we're missing some really
00:37:01
long range electric
00:37:03
vehicle I'm going to go 25% and say I'm
00:37:06
being optimistic about it I'm goingon to
00:37:08
say
00:37:09
30 yeah Price is Right rules Price is
00:37:11
Right rules I'm going to give you guys
00:37:13
some context um the most efficient Lucid
00:37:16
just from me Googling it the entry level
00:37:18
Lucid air pure has a claimed 46 mile
00:37:23
range on an 88 KW hour battery m and the
00:37:28
EV everyone keeps telling me to check
00:37:30
out which has solar panels on it has
00:37:33
three wheels and I also don't think
00:37:35
will'll ever ship but they talk about it
00:37:37
a lot is the aptera EV oh they claim up
00:37:41
to a th000 miles on a single charge
00:37:43
that's that like like this yeah it's
00:37:46
that street I guess it could be Street
00:37:49
there's all those other things that has
00:37:50
like solar power yeah that's good it's
00:37:52
got some solar power okay but if you're
00:37:54
not a aware of what it is yet it has
00:37:56
three wheels it's like
00:37:58
uh it doesn't look like a car it looks
00:38:00
like it's supposed it looks like a
00:38:02
science project that's supposed to get
00:38:03
a, miles it looks like a car that would
00:38:05
be in that the future if image it looks
00:38:08
like a car you would buy and then learn
00:38:09
that the Hummer EV and the Cyber truck
00:38:11
are on the roads and be like I'm never
00:38:12
driving this on the road yeah never
00:38:14
driving again it has 100 mph top speed
00:38:17
the aptera has a claimed 400 mil of
00:38:20
range on the 40 KW hour battery and a
00:38:24
th000 mile range how much does it weigh
00:38:26
though that thing got to be 80% battery
00:38:29
weight yeah yeah it also has solar
00:38:31
panels so like yeah I guess but solar
00:38:34
panels even on the smallest version of
00:38:37
that are adding not a not all single
00:38:39
digit miles every single company that's
00:38:41
put solar panels on has even in their
00:38:44
most optimistic Market said like at best
00:38:47
this is controlling your like air
00:38:48
conditioning for the day yeah the priest
00:38:50
Prime that I tested when I left it
00:38:52
parked outside for several several days
00:38:56
gained several miles
00:38:58
of range nice so so there's that yeah
00:39:02
yeah do with it what you may it's xiaomi
00:39:04
they announce crazy stuff I just want it
00:39:05
looks really good it does we probably
00:39:07
won't be able to buy in the US but I
00:39:09
would own this personally wow without
00:39:11
even testing that it probably doesn't
00:39:13
have Apple carplay or Android auto or
00:39:15
anything like that it definitely has
00:39:16
Android auto xiaomi but not carplay okay
00:39:19
probably not carplay yeah that's fine
00:39:21
that's bold you would own it I would own
00:39:23
this for sure what's the okay one more
00:39:26
question
00:39:27
maximum price you would pay to own it
00:39:29
that I would pay yeah I wouldn't pay a
00:39:31
lot for a
00:39:33
car but it's XI so like may I would say
00:39:37
they're going to try to sell this for
00:39:39
like let's assume all the specs are true
00:39:40
55,000 MSRP that would be crazy those
00:39:44
that would be like best bang for your
00:39:46
buck that' be unal if it hit these
00:39:48
numbers I think that's what they're
00:39:48
going to try to sell it for the 400 mile
00:39:50
base Lucid is about 80 grand yep so but
00:39:53
it's sh me it is Shi and they basically
00:39:55
if you go on their website and look at
00:39:57
all their products they're literal
00:39:58
direct ripoffs of other really expensive
00:40:01
products oh they're not shy about that
00:40:03
their vacuum cleaner looks exactly like
00:40:04
the Dyson vacuum cleaner like all of
00:40:07
their stuff is pretty much exactly a
00:40:08
ripoff we shall see but it's way cheaper
00:40:11
so we'll see we'll see yeah all right
00:40:14
speaking of EV news oh I saw this uh
00:40:18
basically at the very end of last year
00:40:20
Porsche and Aston Martin announced this
00:40:23
new carplay that apple had originally
00:40:25
announced at WWDC 20 22 which is a long
00:40:28
time ago it was a very weird very am I
00:40:31
in auge state I have so many thoughts
00:40:33
portion of wwc where Apple was just like
00:40:36
in the future all of the cars are going
00:40:39
to be completely controlled by your
00:40:41
iPhone all of the screens are going to
00:40:43
have all this information and it was all
00:40:45
a bunch of mockups and they didn't
00:40:47
announced anything real and then we
00:40:49
didn't hear anything for like an entire
00:40:50
year but moved on they had announced
00:40:53
that by the end of
00:40:55
2023 they would be able to have
00:40:57
announcements about it actually coming
00:40:59
true and literally at the very very end
00:41:02
of 2023 they put out a little press
00:41:04
release with Porsche and Aston Martin
00:41:07
talking about this next generation of
00:41:09
carplay didn't they many also say that
00:41:12
80% of people wouldn't buy a new car
00:41:14
unless it had carplay that's that might
00:41:16
have been another Apple quote Yeah I'm
00:41:18
pretty sure it was a wild stat clearly
00:41:21
not true the model y does not have
00:41:23
carplay and it's the most popular car in
00:41:24
the world they like they only uh people
00:41:28
in cero just looking to buy a new car
00:41:31
they went around on the Apple campus and
00:41:33
they're like hey I need a I need a
00:41:35
little survey here I need a quote it's
00:41:37
like when you're in high school and you
00:41:38
have to do a survey for a class so you
00:41:40
ask like 14 people and you're like my
00:41:42
data in did it you just ask your friends
00:41:45
yeah first of all I think yes carplay if
00:41:50
we just stick with carplay is an
00:41:52
important feature for a lot of people in
00:41:53
cars why because most inar software suck
00:41:57
like real bad horrible carplay not that
00:42:02
great but better than car software so
00:42:05
very very bad this mockup of it like
00:42:07
taking over your whole car would seem to
00:42:08
make sense because again what car is
00:42:10
going to have better software than what
00:42:12
Apple can make right everyone just wants
00:42:14
their phone anyway so like why not just
00:42:16
give people their car just being their
00:42:17
whole phone and apple doesn't make a car
00:42:18
yet so I guess this is the Apple car you
00:42:20
know uh the Press announcement showed
00:42:23
they said Porsche and ason Martin
00:42:25
Porsche didn't really give any model
00:42:26
numbers
00:42:27
Aston Martin did say that next year's
00:42:30
db12 would have this full carplay thing
00:42:34
on the screens which if you look up
00:42:37
photos of the interior of the Aston
00:42:38
Martin db12 the 2024 db12 there are
00:42:42
physical buttons for lots of the same
00:42:45
things that show up on the screen like
00:42:48
your your air conditioning and your
00:42:49
media like your volume all of that there
00:42:51
there are knobs and buttons on the car
00:42:53
already so they'll have a physical
00:42:54
button and a digital button how how is
00:42:57
that a good idea how is that a useful
00:43:00
like how is that a good use of space
00:43:02
it's going to be very redundant yeah
00:43:04
seems weird to me so I don't I want to
00:43:07
throw in there I'm Pro physical buttons
00:43:09
me too all in a car not all but climate
00:43:13
control easily accessible physical
00:43:14
buttons yes pretty much everything I
00:43:17
think you could probably get a there's
00:43:20
not a lot of things almost every human
00:43:21
agrees on but I think one of them is
00:43:24
that physical buttons for things like
00:43:25
that are better than digital buttons in
00:43:27
a car in a in a car for sure when you
00:43:30
you should be keeping your eyes on the
00:43:32
road yes and you want to reach and have
00:43:35
real haptic feedback about what like
00:43:37
you're moving and adjusting physical
00:43:40
buttons are better so this carplay
00:43:44
taking over your whole screen your whole
00:43:47
dashboard maybe there's a secondary
00:43:49
screen in your car I don't think every
00:43:51
car of the feature is going to have to
00:43:52
have all screen I think that's an
00:43:54
aesthetic that got popular because Tesla
00:43:56
got popular with EVs and part of making
00:44:00
an EV affordable is cost cutting around
00:44:03
the expensive battery so Model S and
00:44:06
model 3 they have incredible batteries
00:44:08
and drivetrains but then they've cost
00:44:10
cut everywhere else take away the screen
00:44:12
take away the buttons take away
00:44:14
everything it's super minimal and so
00:44:16
because Teslas are so popular all these
00:44:18
other car manufacturers are going oh
00:44:20
this is this is getting popular maybe we
00:44:22
do that too and so you're seeing all
00:44:24
these super minimal Interiors come out
00:44:25
but that's not actually what what's
00:44:27
popular about the car I think people are
00:44:29
buying the EV for the EV reason and are
00:44:31
dealing with and are okay with the whole
00:44:34
screen thing but I think we all still
00:44:35
know that physical buttons are better
00:44:38
than digital buttons so this weird like
00:44:41
head fake that we're doing towards all
00:44:43
carplay on your car but also in cars
00:44:46
that have regular buttons is kind of
00:44:47
weird because I think we're in a couple
00:44:49
years going to realize we we're just
00:44:50
going to have regular cars with buttons
00:44:52
again so it's it's weird well you still
00:44:54
need your car to work if you don't have
00:44:55
an iPhone right so it's like like I feel
00:44:57
like that's why they're doing all the
00:44:58
physical buttons in conjunction because
00:45:00
even though they're going to have the
00:45:02
digital button option with all the
00:45:04
carplay stuff you still need to be able
00:45:06
to control your car if either you don't
00:45:09
have an iPhone or if you're don't want
00:45:10
to plug your iPhone in yeah I guess so
00:45:13
if it's still the nextg carplay this is
00:45:14
still a projection from your phone like
00:45:16
this isn't built into the car like
00:45:17
Android automotive but it's well no this
00:45:19
next generation carplay is supposed to
00:45:21
have access to all of your car's
00:45:23
features so you're supposed to be able
00:45:25
to like control the temperature show
00:45:27
your speedometer and your range and your
00:45:29
RPMs if it's a gas car yeah but you
00:45:31
still need your iPhone for that to work
00:45:33
for the carplay to work yeah so if you
00:45:35
don't have your iPhone if your iPhone is
00:45:36
dead it's still going to back up to
00:45:39
whatever Aston Mar software is
00:45:40
underneath it that's actually a good
00:45:42
point I had not thought about if that's
00:45:44
the case cuz I'm not sure I I assume it
00:45:46
needs your iPhone but it could be not
00:45:49
sure yeah needs your iPhone will this
00:45:52
next gen carplay be built into the
00:45:54
carlik Android automotive or will it
00:45:56
still be like carplay and God that's
00:45:58
actually an interesting question if you
00:46:00
have Android automotive but an iPhone
00:46:02
can you still connect and do basic like
00:46:06
you can connect your iPhone to the do
00:46:08
like music and stuff like that right
00:46:09
yeah yeah exactly so I guess it if it's
00:46:11
built in it's the best case scenario
00:46:13
because then even if you don't have an
00:46:14
iPhone you can at least do the minimal
00:46:15
things like contacts and whatever and
00:46:17
then just it's an apple UI for the rest
00:46:19
of your car your phone will be like your
00:46:21
car will be like another device in your
00:46:22
Apple account basically yeah when I
00:46:25
first thought about like adjusting CL
00:46:27
and everything like that and carplay I
00:46:28
was like well I'll just use my knobs for
00:46:30
that and carplay for everything else but
00:46:32
like a lot of these pictures that
00:46:33
they're showing of like renders of it
00:46:35
are showing climate controls and
00:46:36
everything like that so they do want
00:46:37
that in there and it is both the way I
00:46:40
see it is like I'm just going to use my
00:46:42
knobs for the stuff I want to use and
00:46:44
then hopefully just customize the screen
00:46:46
enough to I'm never going to touch my
00:46:48
heated seat button on the screen never
00:46:50
going to touch my climate control on the
00:46:51
screen it's going to have my maps it's
00:46:53
going to have my music and you know this
00:46:57
skin on my I would I would do exactly
00:46:59
what you're doing but
00:47:01
then yeah it it comes down to again the
00:47:04
the question that we've asked many times
00:47:06
on this podcast before what do you think
00:47:08
will happen first a car
00:47:10
company deciding to spend the money on
00:47:13
software and become a good software
00:47:16
company as well so that they don't have
00:47:18
to rely on Apple putting all their stuff
00:47:20
on the car screen or a tech company
00:47:24
becoming a good car company so something
00:47:27
like Tesla or xiaomi or apple or
00:47:30
whatever who's already really good at
00:47:33
software getting really good at the Car
00:47:35
Part you know panel gaps build quality
00:47:37
materials we talk about all that all the
00:47:39
time which do you think will happen
00:47:40
first yeah you know so
00:47:42
theoretically becoming a car company
00:47:45
should be much harder than uh hiring a
00:47:48
good software team uh but I think we
00:47:51
kind of talked about this a little bit
00:47:52
yesterday like for some reason these
00:47:55
traditional auto manufacturers Just like
00:47:57
don't want to H hire a software division
00:47:59
to maintain good software in their cars
00:48:02
really good they have software divisions
00:48:05
but they're not a focus that's like
00:48:07
pushing boundaries right and I think
00:48:09
they don't want to do that because
00:48:10
people currently aren't buying cars for
00:48:13
the software people are currently like
00:48:14
if you're buying an expensive car like a
00:48:16
Porsche they're buying it because it's a
00:48:17
Porsche or if they're buying a Honda
00:48:18
Civic they're buying it because it's a
00:48:20
Honda Civic but I don't think right now
00:48:22
software is like a major reason that
00:48:24
people buy cars and so that's why
00:48:27
they're so likely to just be like oh
00:48:29
Android auto or uh carplay just like off
00:48:32
the shelf put it in we don't even have
00:48:34
to hire a software team yeah but slowly
00:48:38
these these startups like rivan are
00:48:41
coming and like devoting these really
00:48:43
big software teams to the interior
00:48:45
software of the car and that is a major
00:48:47
selling point for people that are the
00:48:49
early adopters of EVS but as EVS become
00:48:52
normal cars by 2030 when it's illegal to
00:48:55
buy an ice car in the United States M
00:48:57
like what is that going to look like
00:48:59
yeah so people up until let's say 2020
00:49:04
didn't really think too hard about the
00:49:05
software built into the car it's just
00:49:07
whatever I'll get car play and that'll
00:49:08
be fine yeah but people buying new cars
00:49:11
in 2024 and Beyond are going to start to
00:49:14
care about the software because a lot of
00:49:16
them will be EVs and the software will
00:49:17
matter and a lot of them are younger
00:49:19
people who care about the software let's
00:49:21
be honest so it almost feels like
00:49:23
Tesla's success kind of tricked a lot of
00:49:26
the car industry into some of the wrong
00:49:28
focuses weird yeah I do think a fully
00:49:33
compatible like Android auto or carplay
00:49:37
car in an ideal world is the best option
00:49:41
because those two software manufacturers
00:49:44
are so much better than even the
00:49:46
software software car companies are
00:49:49
currently and I think they have such a
00:49:51
head start I don't see Tesla or rivan
00:49:53
ever catching up to them in the software
00:49:55
function Plus
00:49:57
if we always talk about Tesla and the
00:49:59
ecosystem of charging and being inside
00:50:01
your Tesla all the time what's a better
00:50:03
ecosystem than your car being connected
00:50:05
to your actual ecosystem of your phone
00:50:09
and your like all your smart stuff yeah
00:50:12
it almost feels like the only possible
00:50:14
way to get that ecosystem integration is
00:50:16
for it to be the carplay thing like if
00:50:18
you use like if I use Tesla as an
00:50:19
example their app on the phone is
00:50:22
phenomenal it's the best I've ever used
00:50:24
for any car you can do you can send
00:50:26
instructions to the car you can preheat
00:50:28
the car you can have schedules for
00:50:30
charging there's all sorts of things
00:50:31
that plug and and by the way and this is
00:50:35
separate from the car like if you have a
00:50:36
Tesla solar Roof System there's all the
00:50:38
software that talks to the car where I
00:50:40
literally have it where if my car is
00:50:42
plugged in while it's sunny outside it
00:50:45
will only use the excess energy from the
00:50:48
solar that the house isn't using to
00:50:50
charge the car insane I couldn't even
00:50:52
dream of doing that with I don't think
00:50:53
the Tian has anywhere near that
00:50:54
functionality so the integration in
00:50:58
Tesla's ecosystem is great but if you
00:51:00
still want the texts from your phone or
00:51:04
the apps on your phone you kind of need
00:51:07
carplay I think there's a specific
00:51:09
phrase you used in there that's so
00:51:11
important and really important for a lot
00:51:13
of people saying like rivan and Tesla
00:51:14
already have really good software which
00:51:16
is it is the best I've used in any car
00:51:18
MH any the best car software right now
00:51:21
from Tesla and rivan or whoever is like
00:51:24
still worse than an iPad SE level
00:51:28
and UI and software from bigan that's my
00:51:32
favorite part about watching some car
00:51:33
reviews someone go oh yeah the the incar
00:51:35
infotainment is really good and they'll
00:51:36
swipe across and it'll be like this
00:51:38
horrible janky animation I'm like if I
00:51:40
reviewed an iPad and did that you'd be
00:51:42
like what is wrong with this thing this
00:51:44
is horrible I just like anytime you
00:51:45
think car software is really good
00:51:47
imagine that yeah being on an iPad or in
00:51:49
a phone review that we were doing right
00:51:50
now and people would be like you thought
00:51:52
that was a good are you serious you
00:51:55
can't be kidding interesting angle of
00:51:57
this is that the with the new carplay is
00:51:59
that depending on the manufacturer
00:52:01
they're going to skin carplay to be
00:52:03
based around the manufacturer car cool I
00:52:06
want to customize I think it's well I
00:52:08
think it's important I think it's
00:52:09
important for especially for the car
00:52:11
manufacturers right they don't really
00:52:12
want you to get into a Porsche and then
00:52:14
everything around you is Apple UI right
00:52:17
colorful like everyone else's yeah it
00:52:19
makes a lot more sense for you to get
00:52:20
into the Porsche and everything is sort
00:52:22
of Porsche themed but still has all your
00:52:24
phone functionality and as a car manua
00:52:26
fact sure like I think a big reason that
00:52:28
there's sort of this tension where they
00:52:29
don't want to give all the power to
00:52:31
Apple is that they don't want to just be
00:52:33
like oh yeah half of your experience is
00:52:35
dictated by not us so the fact that they
00:52:38
themselves can skin it and make it feel
00:52:40
like it's a first it it's going to feel
00:52:42
more first party even though it's a
00:52:44
third party thing yeah that's why I
00:52:46
think this this carplay thing H it has
00:52:50
to be a stop gap between the car
00:52:52
companies eventually going all right we
00:52:54
got to get good at software yeah and
00:52:56
we're not good at it now so you know
00:52:58
what if we can work with apple and they
00:53:00
can deliver a great experience we can
00:53:01
keep selling cars to these new people
00:53:03
who care about this software experience
00:53:05
yeah but we're eventually we can't just
00:53:07
give it up yeah so I think this is a
00:53:10
stop Gap once EVS get a lot more popular
00:53:12
and prevalent and there's cheaper ones
00:53:15
like the Tesla Model 2 or like a rivan r
00:53:18
R2 is that what it's called R2 the
00:53:20
platform yeah yeah okay then I think
00:53:23
that it's going to be a much more major
00:53:25
thing that traditional makers like Honda
00:53:27
or Toyota actually have to consider
00:53:29
because people that are going to be
00:53:31
buying the most cars are going to be
00:53:32
like Millennials and gen Z yeah so
00:53:35
that's the reason why I think Google and
00:53:38
apple will prevail because they're going
00:53:41
to see more companies going towards
00:53:43
their own software and they're going to
00:53:44
be like hold on a minute we want to be
00:53:46
in these cars this is this is our
00:53:49
opportunity to make more money or our
00:53:51
opportunity we possibly losing money
00:53:53
because now people aren't using carplay
00:53:55
or Android auto they want data as much
00:53:58
as possible if you start taking away
00:54:00
driving data from them you start running
00:54:03
into some issues I wouldn't doubt if
00:54:05
they're going to start I mean like
00:54:07
they're going to want to make deals with
00:54:09
car companies and be the thing inside of
00:54:11
cars as much as they can it's an easy
00:54:13
selling point hey why pay a software
00:54:15
team just pay us or we'll pay you to be
00:54:18
inside this car well here's the question
00:54:20
for you guys would you prefer a really
00:54:23
good like rivan or Tesla UI that's just
00:54:26
really good or would you prefer carplay
00:54:28
or Android auto that's I think that I
00:54:30
think there's an obvious answer there I
00:54:32
think if both of them are at Absolute
00:54:34
Peak you want the one that's also
00:54:36
connected to all the other Tech that you
00:54:37
use I actually
00:54:39
don't I I like my car software being
00:54:42
like separate from my phone I think
00:54:45
that's like a small wait same no I no I
00:54:48
think that's like a small personal thing
00:54:50
where it's
00:54:52
like I think in Peak if they were
00:54:54
absolutely perfect on both sides you
00:54:56
would want it connected to everything
00:54:57
else I think that if it was skinned to
00:55:00
feel native and but it was actually car
00:55:03
Player Android auto then I would be okay
00:55:05
with it yeah but I prefer like the Tesla
00:55:08
UI or the rivian UI to carplay and
00:55:11
Android auto but I I see you're saying
00:55:12
about that's what I'm saying like if it
00:55:14
was perfect in both scenarios you would
00:55:16
want it I would want the one that's
00:55:17
connect to we all we all want something
00:55:21
in our ecosystem it's because it's the
00:55:22
what you're the most familiar with too
00:55:23
it's already plugged into everything
00:55:24
yeah summ summary of everything for me
00:55:28
is the the legitimate older car
00:55:31
companies have a head start in the
00:55:33
making cars thing and they're trying to
00:55:36
figure out how to solve for all the
00:55:39
downsides that they have with software
00:55:41
and this feels like a patch for now mhm
00:55:45
the software companies have a huge Head
00:55:47
Start when it comes to the software
00:55:49
Tesla rivan maybe even xiaomi who knows
00:55:53
but they are trying to figure out all of
00:55:55
the shortcomings that they have with the
00:55:57
whole making cars thing batteries range
00:56:00
build quality panel gaps whatever tono
00:56:04
covers tunel CS so they're they're both
00:56:07
working on their shortcomings and the
00:56:10
patch for now seems like good car good
00:56:14
software combined please buy our car
00:56:18
that's my summary okay we have to take a
00:56:20
quick
00:56:22
break's been on the trivia button for
00:56:24
like half an hour cuz our notes were
00:56:27
like three sentences and then that was
00:56:28
30 minutes yeah hit the button there it
00:56:31
is all
00:56:34
right all right friends I don't know if
00:56:36
you're ready for this one so this is a
00:56:38
spe special interest uh topic so
00:56:41
ruinscape is a browser based Fantasy
00:56:44
game no no no hear me out originally
00:56:46
released in 2001 by the company jagex
00:56:49
with over 200 million registered
00:56:51
accounts it's the world's most popular
00:56:53
free-to-play MMO RPG still
00:56:57
to be determined oh registered accounts
00:56:59
yeah RuneScape is known for many things
00:57:01
but especially they're staggeringly
00:57:03
large music library in 2017 they were
00:57:07
awarded with the guus world record for
00:57:09
most original pieces of music in a video
00:57:11
game H as of November 27th of 2023 how
00:57:15
many total songs are there in ruinscape
00:57:18
it's a multiple choice answer don't be
00:57:20
scared okay is that all of RuneScape o
00:57:23
like old school end runes AP 3 cuz are
00:57:27
there different songs I think it's just
00:57:29
like in the newest version so RuneScape
00:57:31
3 yeah is RuneScape 3 considered the
00:57:34
newest version anymore or is old school
00:57:36
considered the new help I've never
00:57:38
played aape you don't need to play to
00:57:40
know I didn't even know this so I still
00:57:43
don't Mariah famously has a RuneScape
00:57:45
desk mat at her desk so not anymore not
00:57:47
anymore oh yeah you swapped that yeah
00:57:50
you're wearing a RuneScape shirt though
00:57:51
yes is my Christmas that's a RuneScape
00:57:53
oh actually it's it's based on one of
00:57:54
the songs it is oh
00:57:56
all right option a uh
00:58:00
1,589 songs I could see that option b
00:58:05
1,362 songs this is not a large
00:58:08
variation too many option C 1,27 songs
00:58:12
or D 856 songs those are all way too
00:58:15
many they're way too those numbers are
00:58:17
way too close to each other I like it's
00:58:19
I was thinking it would be like 64 songs
00:58:22
they are good songs a th000 songs yeah
00:58:26
10,000 yeah that's what I would do yeah
00:58:30
just saying I don't know if it helps at
00:58:31
all but you can get something in the
00:58:33
game called The Music Cape correct or
00:58:37
yeah so if you unlock all of the songs
00:58:39
you get a piece
00:58:41
of equipment based on unlocking all of
00:58:44
the
00:58:45
songs unlock the songs RuneScape is also
00:58:48
famously known as the grest game
00:58:51
possible yeah so okay that shouldn't
00:58:54
don't be scared we'll think let's take
00:58:56
it a break we'll think about it we'll be
00:58:58
back I just want to hope somebody's
00:58:59
listening right now like you idiots of
00:59:01
course it's
00:59:03
1,130
00:59:08
famously welcome back uh this is a
00:59:10
section that I think maybe we should
00:59:12
have done uh at the end of last year but
00:59:14
I wanted to fit in here because it's a
00:59:15
little fun section we always get a very
00:59:17
positive audience reaction we do when we
00:59:19
do something like this never too late
00:59:20
yeah I wanted to go over our individual
00:59:23
favorite pieces of tech from 2023
00:59:25
something we started using in 2023 that
00:59:27
we think like kind of changed our
00:59:29
workflow or that we just really
00:59:31
positively liked um it's always a little
00:59:33
fun I I like recommendations sections uh
00:59:36
Gadget lab from wired actually did a
00:59:38
full recommendation episode for the last
00:59:40
week of 2023 uh so I thought it would be
00:59:42
fun to have a little recommendation
00:59:44
section so I think we're going to do
00:59:46
three products each and we're going to
00:59:47
go to a little round tables we're going
00:59:48
to start off with Marquez and uh it
00:59:51
doesn't have to be something that
00:59:52
released in 2023 just something you
00:59:53
started using that you really like
00:59:56
H I love how in this for audio
01:00:00
listeners randomly after an adbreak
01:00:03
people hosts of the show will just be
01:00:05
wearing smart glasses oh I didn't even
01:00:08
realize marus doesn't even wear normal
01:00:10
sunglasses except for these indoors all
01:00:12
the time yeah uh spoiler sorry I'm
01:00:17
picking I'm picking the ray bands meta
01:00:19
smart glasses as my first pick these
01:00:21
things I mean I don't know I don't like
01:00:23
you said I don't wear sunglasses that
01:00:24
much but they surprise me at how how
01:00:27
like just overall as a package they
01:00:29
managed to fit a lot of fun smart
01:00:31
features in things that look like just
01:00:34
regular sunglasses and they actually get
01:00:36
David's wearing the clear ones so you
01:00:39
could kind of just wear them and then
01:00:41
are those a transitions right too or no
01:00:43
uh yeah I think they are trans they turn
01:00:44
into sunglasses too they're not full
01:00:46
sunglasses they're not like nearly like
01:00:47
yours but they tint you know yeah
01:00:49
personally I think that wearing the
01:00:51
sunglasses ones is probably a better
01:00:52
option because if you wear clear glasses
01:00:55
when you don't normally wear clear
01:00:56
glasses then obvious like what are you
01:00:59
doing but if I'm walking through the
01:01:00
city like the POV videos that you can
01:01:02
get of just like walking around or
01:01:04
whatever activity you're doing are
01:01:05
actually pretty solid from these so just
01:01:08
for that feature alone I thought these
01:01:09
were really cool um I've been wanting to
01:01:11
do more POV driving videos for autofocus
01:01:14
and struggling to find safe ways to do
01:01:16
that so this is a this has been an
01:01:19
actual workflow game changer for that
01:01:21
too so yeah I I'm liking these the video
01:01:24
quality is really good the sound quality
01:01:26
is surprisingly good it kind of shoots
01:01:27
sound into your ears directional audio
01:01:30
Yeah and then they have they're like one
01:01:31
of the first multimodal AI products as
01:01:34
well exactly I've been I've been testing
01:01:36
the hey meta look and tell me what you
01:01:39
see it's going to start reading to me
01:01:40
now we did this a couple weeks ago yeah
01:01:43
do you want me to oh it didn't do
01:01:46
it it didn't do it that time that's fine
01:01:49
cool we're in the early
01:01:51
stages all right this is my favorite
01:01:53
piece watch it not worry watch it not
01:01:55
all right Andrew all right I have for
01:01:58
show and tell today oh oh if you
01:02:00
couldn't guess cuz I won't stop talking
01:02:03
about keyboards the last couple months
01:02:05
this bro the Omni type power light wow
01:02:10
which is a keyboard from a company named
01:02:12
omn type they're famous for a very old
01:02:16
or an older very expensive very low
01:02:19
inventory keyboard called the bower 2 um
01:02:22
but they made a light version which is
01:02:25
polycarbonate it's 100 bucks 120 bucks
01:02:28
and it's like in stock inventory which
01:02:30
is really cool and really the newer
01:02:32
thing in the keyboard Community that's
01:02:33
happening right now um and they were
01:02:36
nice enough to send me one and when I
01:02:38
was on paternity leave I built them and
01:02:41
now I've built like 10 keyboards and
01:02:43
I've been having so much fun with it um
01:02:46
this one I brought specifically is I
01:02:49
think sounds and feels so
01:02:53
good I'm like obsessed with it it is um
01:02:56
yeah it's a polycarbonate board it's hot
01:02:58
swap I have switches from kinetic Labs
01:03:01
they're called the kinetic lab Moon
01:03:02
switches which are actually hand lub
01:03:04
from the factory so they sound really
01:03:06
nice without any effort um and a nice
01:03:09
Game Boy theme key cap set called gmk
01:03:12
DMG going to do a little typing test
01:03:15
yeah
01:03:18
oh I could listen to that all
01:03:22
day inject that in my brain I have head
01:03:26
first into the keyboard hobby to the
01:03:28
point where before I left for paternity
01:03:30
leave I had built my first keyboard to
01:03:32
now I am back from it and I have like 20
01:03:34
of them and a keyboard YouTube channel
01:03:36
so this is where we've G I have a
01:03:38
question so I I love all these these
01:03:40
like Niche like super deep dive into
01:03:43
hobbies that we do and I always I I I've
01:03:45
started getting to keyboards more and so
01:03:47
I've come to appreciate much more the
01:03:50
different sounds and feels that you get
01:03:51
from a keyboard why does the lightness
01:03:54
of it matter the light
01:03:57
this is just light because polycarb
01:03:59
cheaper CNC aluminum so the reason I'm
01:04:02
actually on a video right now on this
01:04:04
for the studio Channel but the reason
01:04:07
you can just stamp and mold
01:04:09
polycarbonate whereas before the b 2
01:04:12
that they were making he said it took
01:04:14
over yeah cuz it's aluminum but it took
01:04:17
more than a year to make 500 of them and
01:04:19
8,000 people signed up for the raffle so
01:04:23
that's just not an option for smaller
01:04:25
companies or even some bigger companies
01:04:26
to make stuff like that um places like
01:04:29
keyron do do aluminum bodies and they're
01:04:31
great at in stock stuff and there's way
01:04:33
more companies doing in stock things
01:04:35
right now which is really cool um all
01:04:37
this I'm working on in the video that
01:04:38
I'm doing right now but polycarbonate is
01:04:40
nice I like the lightness of this just
01:04:43
for like bringing it to work was nice I
01:04:46
think I do still like my heavy keyboard
01:04:48
playing games cuz it like sits in its
01:04:49
spot do you bring this back and forth
01:04:50
every day not every day um I'll probably
01:04:53
leave this one at work I built a bunch
01:04:55
of home I'll probably leave them at work
01:04:56
to just use as props cuz I obviously
01:04:58
don't need 20 keyboards um but yeah I've
01:05:01
just been building a lot of different
01:05:02
ones trying different sounds and feels
01:05:04
and stuff and I've been taking videos of
01:05:06
all of them and posting typing test plug
01:05:09
your Channel I want you guys what do you
01:05:11
think of this channel name it's called l
01:05:13
m n o key I love it that's nice right
01:05:18
that's a cool channel name it's just me
01:05:20
and my friend typing pretty much very
01:05:22
lowkey but yeah this one Omni type B
01:05:25
light big fan I liked the keyboard uog I
01:05:28
made a keyboard uog it's an hour of
01:05:30
typing with like fireplace crackling did
01:05:32
you type for an hour or did you Loop
01:05:35
it did you type for an
01:05:38
hour I I typed for 10 minutes and then
01:05:41
looped it nice I debated typing
01:05:42
Christmas songs during it but that was
01:05:44
too much work yeah that reminds I used
01:05:45
to bring my H uh when I worked at Intel
01:05:47
I brought my happy hacking keyboard to
01:05:49
work every day he had a a carrying case
01:05:51
I I had a carrying case for it uh there
01:05:53
was a period of time as well that I
01:05:54
brought my ergod do to work and I used
01:05:57
to eat ramen at my desk while typing Nur
01:06:00
dox is like a split hand keyboard where
01:06:02
you do this and then you can put
01:06:04
something in the center like keyboards
01:06:05
look really
01:06:06
cool someone clip that where I just went
01:06:08
like this yeah I had I had a wood case
01:06:10
and Elvin Elvin keycaps from Lord of the
01:06:13
Rings it was pretty amazing yeah and a
01:06:16
runes skate mouse pad yeah all right um
01:06:20
my I think favorite piece of tech from
01:06:22
this year is software it's very we've
01:06:25
talked about this before for it's Arc
01:06:26
browser uh they're a cool startup you
01:06:28
have to pull it out of your computer to
01:06:29
show it to us yeah yeah I've got a
01:06:32
sticker on my laptop oh okay they're
01:06:33
they're a very fun startup they're uh I
01:06:35
don't really know how they're going to
01:06:36
make money uh and they don't really
01:06:38
either they have some random ideas but
01:06:40
for now they're running on some Runway
01:06:43
um but yeah I don't it's it's hard to
01:06:45
get me to switch a piece of software or
01:06:49
technology that I use all the time and I
01:06:51
I generally will try things for like a
01:06:54
day and then I'll be like um no I like
01:06:57
going back to my other thing um I think
01:06:59
I described Arc very badly the last time
01:07:01
we talked about it I was like it kind of
01:07:03
gets rid of your tabs and then it can
01:07:04
kind of do this stuff and uh it cleans
01:07:07
your room for you yeah it kind of yeah I
01:07:09
I famously am really really terrible at
01:07:12
tab management so at a certain amount of
01:07:14
time uh at like 12 hours later it will
01:07:17
clear all your tabs and you can have
01:07:19
different spaces so I have like a work
01:07:20
space a personal space um and then like
01:07:24
a website management space face just all
01:07:26
these different things it's got boosts
01:07:28
now that came out this year which is
01:07:30
like you can basically modify the code
01:07:32
for a website to look however you want
01:07:34
you can turn it pink you can get rid of
01:07:36
certain things they had this funny
01:07:37
little uh ad that came out when
01:07:40
Twitter when Twitter blue came out that
01:07:43
like removed the Twitter blue tab and
01:07:45
removed all these things just to like
01:07:47
clean up I don't know it's just a it's a
01:07:49
very fun uh startup with a very fun
01:07:52
browser and most browsers are so
01:07:54
stagnant they're just it's Apple's
01:07:57
browser Microsoft's browser or Google's
01:07:59
browser so it's like they're not playing
01:08:01
with fun quirky interesting features
01:08:03
yeah they're quirky I think that's would
01:08:04
you say Firefox is no no no I'm just sad
01:08:06
you didn't say it um no I would say
01:08:09
though it is stagnant but to David's
01:08:12
like Point here is it's really hard to
01:08:15
change things that you use for a very
01:08:16
long time and a browser like I'm using
01:08:18
Firefox because I started years ago and
01:08:21
I don't know why I use it over chrome
01:08:24
I'm just used to seeing it that anyways
01:08:26
and I just haven't made the change so
01:08:28
like that's a big change so you it's got
01:08:30
to be a fairly solid product if you've
01:08:32
made that change I was going to say the
01:08:34
same thing my there's a small list of
01:08:35
software that if I change it which I do
01:08:38
once in a while it's a really big deal
01:08:40
to me which is my to-do list app my
01:08:42
email app my calendar app yeah my video
01:08:46
editing app yeah and my browser right
01:08:49
they're like I'll have one for years at
01:08:51
a time and if I find one I might try it
01:08:53
for a day and then come back to the one
01:08:55
I like and find another one try for a
01:08:56
day come back to the one I like but if I
01:08:58
change from Premier to final cut my life
01:09:00
has changed I change from Safari to Ark
01:09:03
like which I did huge change so I I I
01:09:06
like it a lot also Arc is doing
01:09:07
something kind of crazy and
01:09:09
unprecedented where they're uh
01:09:11
unprecedented like presidented
01:09:14
unprecedented they're basically they're
01:09:16
doing something called uh Swift on
01:09:18
Windows which effectively they didn't
01:09:20
want to write a whole code base right
01:09:22
now it's only Mac OS and so they wrote
01:09:24
it for Swift because Swift is like a
01:09:26
much newer cleaner thing and they didn't
01:09:28
want to use um some of these like
01:09:31
platform switcher applications so
01:09:34
they're making this thing called Swift
01:09:36
on Windows where basically they can just
01:09:37
write it for Swift and then
01:09:39
theoretically can make it run on Windows
01:09:42
they can make it run on Android um and
01:09:45
they have an iPhone app right now but
01:09:47
they're going to completely revamp it
01:09:49
because it's not really a browser app
01:09:51
it's sort of just like a you can only
01:09:52
have one tab open at a time and you can
01:09:54
pin things to your to your browser on
01:09:56
your laptop but it's a very big
01:09:58
undertaking I think because they made a
01:10:00
browser and they don't see it really
01:10:02
obvious path to monetization they're
01:10:04
trying to figure out how they could
01:10:05
monetize this um but they're they're
01:10:08
quirky and fun and that's just kind of
01:10:09
the reason that I kind of have stuck
01:10:11
with them from uh since the beginning of
01:10:13
the year nice but we'll see if they're
01:10:15
around they make nice hats too just
01:10:17
saying they do make nice hats oh that's
01:10:18
how they can make money they dig their
01:10:19
hat yeah on the hats yeah merch baby
01:10:21
they have a pretty rabid uh fan base
01:10:24
that is like always a good thing loyalty
01:10:26
is nice very loyal fan base and
01:10:28
surprisingly they uh like every week
01:10:30
they update the app on Thursday of every
01:10:32
week and add a fe pretty much add a
01:10:33
feature every week which is cool they
01:10:35
now have on their YouTube channel they
01:10:37
put out like feature update videos every
01:10:40
week and those videos get close to
01:10:41
100,000 views every week now that's
01:10:43
where you make YouTube creators now baby
01:10:48
they're YouTubers now um so yeah it was
01:10:50
it was fun using that this year yeah
01:10:52
nice all right prod number two Marquez
01:10:55
my next one is extremely expensive so
01:10:58
hopefully you guys have less expensive
01:11:00
things put the affiliate code in there
01:11:02
yeah I love the rivan r1s that is
01:11:06
expensive it's a it's my it's
01:11:09
the most well-rounded most I I had
01:11:14
almost only good things to say about
01:11:16
this EV which is very rare for me and I
01:11:19
mean we test all kinds of vehicles cars
01:11:20
SUVs pickup trucks all sorts of stuff
01:11:22
like that I had like nothing negative to
01:11:24
say about the rivian r1s and my first
01:11:26
exposure to it was I think in 2022 but
01:11:29
it started shipping in 2023 and I
01:11:31
reviewed it in
01:11:32
2023 and um yeah there's a lot of things
01:11:36
that I like about it so I'm there's also
01:11:39
an Easter egg in the video that I made
01:11:42
about it which you guys will probably
01:11:44
understand sometime later in
01:11:46
2024 but uh yeah wait what that's really
01:11:50
I don't even know what you're talking
01:11:51
about or I don't think I know what
01:11:53
you're talking about so yeah that I mean
01:11:55
it's expensive it's it's I'm starting to
01:11:57
see a lot more of them on the road which
01:11:58
I think is a good sign for rivan as a
01:12:00
company iwhere it's selling way better
01:12:02
than the truck yeah so that's cool but
01:12:05
yeah I just I'm shouting it out because
01:12:07
I think it's amazing I think r2s and r2t
01:12:09
will be much more interesting for the
01:12:10
masses because they're trying to bring
01:12:11
most of the capabilities that most
01:12:13
people need on the street down in price
01:12:15
to an
01:12:16
attainable level and I think they're
01:12:19
going to be great what if I want a sedan
01:12:21
can rivan make a sedan a sedan so rivan
01:12:24
has this adventure type of theme
01:12:27
Adventure sedan I think an adventure be
01:12:29
interesting like a cross track yeah I
01:12:32
think that's a that's a popular vehicle
01:12:33
category so the pickup truck technically
01:12:36
the most popular vehicle in America is a
01:12:38
pickup truck and they started with a
01:12:39
competitor to it and I think the the big
01:12:41
three row sedan is another very popular
01:12:43
category that maybe an adventure spin
01:12:45
sorry three three SUV but I think this
01:12:48
the big crossover or sedan big sedan
01:12:51
could be another thing for them to aim
01:12:53
for because because the super saltera
01:12:55
was so bad if if they made like a sutera
01:12:59
competitor that was actually good I
01:13:01
would be so happy iy that in a heartbeat
01:13:04
I want the R2 so bad slightly bigger
01:13:07
similar size to my Forester if that's
01:13:08
the case yeah would be very veryy again
01:13:12
I think I I put my demands out there
01:13:14
that might be two row what because r1s
01:13:17
is a small three row maybe r2s is two
01:13:20
yeah R r2s I would assume is going to be
01:13:22
a two row but still decent trunk space
01:13:25
if it's still got thexy look of rivan
01:13:29
and it still like some of the like trunk
01:13:32
a lot of times I feel like when you
01:13:33
start going to the smaller SUV they
01:13:35
start getting rid of the front trunk I
01:13:37
still want I think is uniquely building
01:13:39
EV from the ground up or some of the
01:13:40
ones that get rid of the front trunk are
01:13:41
just not they're just L they're not
01:13:43
building an EV from the ground up in
01:13:44
that way I have a real I feel like I'm
01:13:47
going to reserve the
01:13:48
R2 as long as you're not planning on
01:13:50
having three more kids then you can they
01:13:52
find their own car
01:13:55
go in the front truck then you're
01:13:56
getting that white Chevy minivan baby
01:13:59
it's on on
01:14:00
Odyssey yeah r1s that's my shout out
01:14:02
that's awesome um I'm going to shout out
01:14:05
something so I don't use it but we have
01:14:06
it in the office and I think it's really
01:14:09
really cool and unless you see it so
01:14:11
I'll try and describe it it sounds kind
01:14:14
of lame but I think it's awesome it's
01:14:15
the Corsair platform 6 sit desk that we
01:14:19
got recently I like I thought about I
01:14:22
thought a lot about getting one yeah I
01:14:24
really it so they they sent us one and
01:14:26
we put it in our gaming room and it's
01:14:28
like a Corsair is obviously a gaming
01:14:30
company this desk doesn't scream gamer
01:14:34
as hard though it's like a nice wooden
01:14:36
platform it has kind of like its own
01:14:39
adjustable pegboard backing so you can
01:14:41
add all these different customized like
01:14:43
shelves and hooks and like there's side
01:14:46
plates that come out to extend the desk
01:14:48
left and right there's pegboards that
01:14:49
can go on the side it's Auto it's sit
01:14:51
stand it just has like all these really
01:14:54
awesome customizing things on it without
01:14:57
looking without like looking like a real
01:14:59
desk because here's the thing I could
01:15:00
see having this in a garage and using it
01:15:02
as like a workshop desk it probably
01:15:05
Workshop desk probably should be a
01:15:08
little sturdier or like thicker just if
01:15:11
you're like using a saw and stuff and
01:15:13
getting side of it I like soldering and
01:15:15
that kind of stuff yeah yeah fair I mean
01:15:17
this is this is it's just a really nice
01:15:19
looking desk that has all the customiz
01:15:22
customization that you would like ever
01:15:23
want like we have really nice speakers
01:15:25
up on the side of it me right now my
01:15:27
studio monitors are on the desk and they
01:15:29
they've been on my desk for years but
01:15:31
the the thought of being able to get
01:15:32
them up off the desk at your ear level
01:15:34
but then have you reclaim the desk space
01:15:36
underneath it that that's and still has
01:15:38
all sorts of great things for like cable
01:15:40
management and stuff like that and
01:15:42
places for arms like essentially you can
01:15:45
create this with like almost nothing
01:15:46
sitting on the desk except for what you
01:15:48
want and have your monitor and computer
01:15:49
set up in all different places and I
01:15:51
don't it's just a really sick desk I
01:15:53
don't even know how much it is it's
01:15:55
probably pretty expensive but it's on
01:15:57
sale it's on sale baby how much uh it's
01:16:01
only $30 off but it is oh no uh it's
01:16:05
$848 as of right now that's not that bad
01:16:08
for a desk for a motorized sit stand
01:16:11
desk there are obviously better or
01:16:13
cheaper options out there but I don't
01:16:15
think that's terrible yeah I spent a lot
01:16:18
on my
01:16:19
desk yeah I think it's really sick I
01:16:21
think I don't know if we've done have we
01:16:23
done an a-roll set in in gaming room
01:16:25
since we changed that no I will Al did
01:16:28
one Alex might have Sho for a video
01:16:29
that's not out yet but I think it looks
01:16:31
great and it's going to be a really good
01:16:33
yeah just for our set purposes being
01:16:35
able to customize it it's really the
01:16:37
pegboard is really awesome I like that a
01:16:39
lot good job corer all right my second
01:16:42
one uh is I promise not sponsored okay
01:16:45
uh but the eight Sleep mattress topper
01:16:49
pad interesting go on okay this thing is
01:16:52
so sick I love mine so much we got yeah
01:16:55
we got it originally for a sponsorship
01:16:57
yep um and well basically they they
01:16:59
reached out they wanted to sponsor us I
01:17:01
said I will have to try it first and if
01:17:04
I like it then we'll do a sponsor and
01:17:05
then I loved it and did the sponsor yeah
01:17:08
right so they have a full mattress
01:17:09
option and then they just have a
01:17:10
mattress topper I got the topper because
01:17:12
I already have a mattress that I really
01:17:14
like um but effectively it's this
01:17:18
high-tech Sleep mattress topper that can
01:17:21
cool you and heat you at different times
01:17:23
of the night it uses like intelligent
01:17:26
machine learning or whatever to like
01:17:28
change the temperature over the course
01:17:29
of the night so that you sleep better it
01:17:31
has all these trackers to like tell you
01:17:33
how you slept and like say when you
01:17:36
should go to bed the app is weirdly
01:17:38
welld designed it is pretty good yeah
01:17:40
yeah like it's it's a very high quality
01:17:42
product with a very high quality app and
01:17:45
honestly it has made me sleep
01:17:48
significantly better since I've had it
01:17:50
yeah um it's crazy too because at the at
01:17:53
every morning it gives you this sleep
01:17:54
score to tell you how you slept and my
01:17:57
sleep score always correlates with how
01:17:59
good I feel which is crazy like if it's
01:18:01
it's like oh you slept terribly you got
01:18:02
a 63 I'm like yeah I know I feel like
01:18:04
crap but if I'm like if I wake up and
01:18:06
I'm like wow I feel incredible it's
01:18:09
always like 98 um and it'll change the
01:18:12
temperature over the course like as it
01:18:14
gets closer to you waking up to help you
01:18:16
wake up more naturally and add a point
01:18:18
in your like circadian rhythm where it's
01:18:20
you feel better waking up I mean just
01:18:22
waking up to it being like a little
01:18:23
warmer is is
01:18:30
cooler and it can also vibrate to wake
01:18:32
you up which is kind of weird I don't
01:18:33
use that feature it's pretty low they
01:18:35
just updated it did they okay I haven't
01:18:37
tried it again since then I have one
01:18:39
major gripe with it which I is very
01:18:43
small and I don't know how they would
01:18:44
change it so if you want to like go take
01:18:47
a nap in your bed in the middle of the
01:18:49
day and it's cold in your room because
01:18:52
there's water flowing through it without
01:18:53
it changing the tempure like the bed is
01:18:56
cold when you get into it which is like
01:18:58
so small and I'm more of a couch Napper
01:19:01
but like so you have to feat it up ahead
01:19:02
of time well because it it starts
01:19:04
heating up based on like when you said
01:19:06
as a bedtime right well no no but like
01:19:08
if you're if you would prefer to be a
01:19:10
little warmer oh then you can go on the
01:19:11
app and yeah but if you're just like oh
01:19:14
man I'm pretty exhausted at 2 o' I'm
01:19:16
going to go take a nap in bed it's just
01:19:18
like cold because it's just water that's
01:19:20
sitting in a cold room so very minor
01:19:23
grape yes still absolutely love it two
01:19:26
things one it's hilarious that my bed
01:19:27
got a software update but two two is I
01:19:30
think I got home from like an overnight
01:19:32
thing once and so I like got in bed to
01:19:34
go to sleep at 6:00 a.m. or something
01:19:37
and it it just turned on it just figured
01:19:40
it out realized that I was and I still
01:19:41
got a horrible sleep score but like it
01:19:43
realized that I was getting into bed at
01:19:44
a crazy time and I was like all right CU
01:19:46
it's got the sensors the heart rate
01:19:47
monitor everything is built into the
01:19:48
mattress topper it's it knows a weird
01:19:51
amount about you it's kind of maybe a
01:19:53
little too much
01:19:56
it is also on sale wow what not a
01:19:59
sponsor it is a very expensive product
01:20:01
it's $2500 for the mattress topper which
01:20:04
I know is a ton um and some of those
01:20:07
features are behind a pay behind
01:20:09
subscription you don't need the
01:20:11
subscription you really don't need it no
01:20:13
I think some of the way I think they'll
01:20:15
like it changing cuz like you can set
01:20:18
what points of temperature you want over
01:20:20
it's like when you go to bed when you
01:20:23
hit light sleep when you hit deep sleep
01:20:24
when you wake up but I think the
01:20:26
automatic changing of that based on your
01:20:28
movement and stuff is behind the pay
01:20:30
water yeah it's like
01:20:32
autopilot well yeah I really like it I
01:20:35
have slept way better in the last six
01:20:38
months since you have a water cooled bed
01:20:40
have you gotten to the point where it's
01:20:42
harder to sleep in other beds
01:20:45
um it that's an interesting question cuz
01:20:48
I wasn't sure if I was actually sleeping
01:20:50
better in the aid sleep I thought wow I
01:20:51
do I feel like I am going to sleep
01:20:53
faster and then I tried to sleep in a
01:20:55
hotel bed and I was like I'm cooking
01:20:57
okay Hotel Beds suck man I disagree with
01:21:00
both of you I've really enjoyed I think
01:21:02
Hotel Beds are usually pretty good and
01:21:04
at least for me and I I've started
01:21:06
feeling like wow these are too hot now
01:21:08
interesting I see the reason I still
01:21:10
sleep okay in a hotel bed is cuz I'm not
01:21:12
paying the electricity bill of what I
01:21:14
set the H to when I go into a hotel
01:21:16
that's very D of you and exactly so I'm
01:21:20
cranking that to whatever preferred
01:21:21
temperature want it's still 64 degre and
01:21:23
you have to like get out of bed when
01:21:25
it's cold yeah it's tough I like the
01:21:27
feature where uh it had hit zero cooling
01:21:30
or heating like an hour before I wake up
01:21:32
but as I'm waking up it gets colder and
01:21:34
it sort of nudges me out of bed by
01:21:37
getting colder and that works really
01:21:39
well see that's probably why my sleep
01:21:40
score sucks cuz I make it get warmer and
01:21:42
then I'm like I don't want to leave I've
01:21:44
never once wanted my bed to be warm so
01:21:46
I've never I don't have it get warm ever
01:21:49
I'm a cozy boy I guess there you go yeah
01:21:52
anyway all right cool product last round
01:21:53
let's do a speed
01:21:55
okay last last item for me um I recently
01:21:58
started using this set of inar monitors
01:22:00
by 64 audio I don't know how to
01:22:02
pronounce the name but I'm going to try
01:22:04
which might be a mistake I think it's
01:22:05
called the vour but they IMs I back in
01:22:09
high school I have this memory of every
01:22:11
time during Like Home Room and study
01:22:13
hall I I just had my zoom HD and my inar
01:22:16
monitors and I would just Zen out and
01:22:20
not talk to anyone and just listen to
01:22:21
music for hours and that was that memory
01:22:26
was like a core memory that was unlocked
01:22:27
when I just went back to starting to use
01:22:29
in- your monitors again because you
01:22:31
start hearing things in the music that
01:22:33
you didn't realize were there because
01:22:34
you've only heard them on headphones or
01:22:36
you've only heard them on speakers I've
01:22:38
been listening to these I've been
01:22:39
editing with these a little bit they're
01:22:41
very versatile very expensive also uh
01:22:44
but I'm giving them a shout out because
01:22:46
I don't have anything bad to say about
01:22:47
them yet so I made the mistake of
01:22:49
opening them and trying them and then
01:22:51
handing them to you and not trying them
01:22:53
for longer cuz now that haven't left
01:22:54
your desk since I gave they going to be
01:22:56
there for a while yeah they're actually
01:22:58
in his ears right now it's it's funny
01:23:00
what you unlock when you find a new
01:23:03
better listening experience I uh I have
01:23:06
this turntable that I've had for a long
01:23:07
time and I I have like 500 records but
01:23:09
they're all on my mom's house cuz I was
01:23:11
that weird kid in high school who was
01:23:13
like super into records uh but I finally
01:23:16
like got a couple new records and put
01:23:17
them on my turntable at home and I'm
01:23:19
like damn this sounds so good yeah it
01:23:22
sounds way better so I am ex I want to I
01:23:25
want to try your I am I'm editing I'm
01:23:27
like hearing things I've never heard
01:23:29
from the microphone before like there
01:23:30
are there are cars outside the parking
01:23:32
lot that I see the levels on the mix pre
01:23:35
or at zero so I'm like I think we can
01:23:36
keep talking like I don't hear I don't
01:23:37
see it on the levels and then I hear in
01:23:39
the IMs I'm like this is so much so I
01:23:42
hear everything I hear my I hear the
01:23:44
hair is growing out of my face crazy
01:23:47
anyway okay what's your pick um this is
01:23:49
definitely something that came out in
01:23:50
2022 and the thing I'm looking forward
01:23:52
to got delayed till 2024 so using it as
01:23:55
a 2023 thing is maybe not the best but
01:23:57
um the Pulsar X2 wireless gaming mouse
01:24:01
I've used before PSAR Pulsar p u LS a r
01:24:05
um it's just a mouse that I loved it was
01:24:08
fantastic I was using the random Frank P
01:24:09
version but they do all these really
01:24:11
good collabs and designs and they're
01:24:14
coming out with a Demon Slayer collab
01:24:16
soon which is an anime I started
01:24:18
watching and I really like so far so I
01:24:19
can't wait till that comes out it's
01:24:20
gonna be sick but yeah that's my my
01:24:23
quick hit nice
01:24:24
um mine is a little boring but I really
01:24:27
liked the pixel fold this year I know it
01:24:29
had a lot of problems uh like the bezels
01:24:32
are pretty big on the inside and the
01:24:33
inter screen not very good they come I
01:24:36
don't care about tensor whatever
01:24:37
whatever um but I just really liked the
01:24:39
form factor because I was really hoping
01:24:41
like the Oppo Find n and the find N2
01:24:45
never got a US launch and that's like a
01:24:47
shorter more pocketbook style foldable
01:24:50
phone and so if you live yeah passport
01:24:54
style I like the pocketbook style yeah
01:24:57
so if you live in like the United States
01:24:58
and you want a pocketbook style passport
01:25:00
style phone it's kind of the only option
01:25:02
and the thing is pixel software for
01:25:05
Android is by far my favorite Android
01:25:07
software and so having that along with
01:25:09
all the Google smarts on a passport
01:25:12
style phone allowed me to sort of ignore
01:25:15
some of the the issues with it also
01:25:18
we've talked about this before probably
01:25:20
the best phone to use closed um and I
01:25:22
like that mindset when it comes to
01:25:25
folding phones because the Galaxy uh Z
01:25:29
fold has always been a phone that's been
01:25:31
like oh we want you to use this open
01:25:33
most of the time and they make it a
01:25:35
little bit awkward to use unfort because
01:25:37
it's so narrow but this phone is like a
01:25:40
really nice aspect ratio closed it's
01:25:42
short and it's nice and I like it um I'm
01:25:45
really hoping that the second generation
01:25:47
is significantly better I doubt it will
01:25:49
be maybe the third generation will be uh
01:25:52
I just want a better interior screen
01:25:53
maybe some smaller bezels and that's
01:25:56
about it I really like that phone shout
01:25:57
out to the pixel fold I'm looking
01:25:58
forward to the pixel fold too as well
01:26:00
yeah yeah imagine do you know you said
01:26:02
it's narrow and awkward to use on the
01:26:04
front of the zold yeah remember the
01:26:07
essential phone 2 concept That was
01:26:09
supposed to be that like skinny phone
01:26:10
the gem phone yeah yeah yeah that so
01:26:13
many people were like excited for that I
01:26:16
think they were just excited cuz it was
01:26:17
different it's just weird and different
01:26:19
yeah but if you remember the original
01:26:21
Samsung Galaxy fold it was super slim
01:26:24
and narrow and then it just had a small
01:26:26
screen inside of the front yes it had
01:26:28
the weirdest bezels ever looking back
01:26:31
that was a very
01:26:32
first first gen the screen broke yeah I
01:26:35
mean yeah the interior screen broke so
01:26:37
um yeah awesome cool well I think that's
01:26:40
going to round it out for this episode I
01:26:42
think it's time for trivia to wrap it up
01:26:45
trivia where eyes on
01:26:48
it time for me to expose how little I
01:26:50
know
01:26:51
about scoring music for video games I
01:26:56
guess I don't know anything about I feel
01:26:57
like Ellis is gonna be upset that he's
01:26:59
not here for this
01:27:01
because Dad does sound stuff for World
01:27:03
of Warcraft or did at one point oh what
01:27:07
hasn't his family done dang close to
01:27:09
this trivia question okay Ellis is like
01:27:12
Nicki Minaj is my neighbor which of
01:27:14
these products is not a real product
01:27:16
that I've received an email about option
01:27:20
a flappy the intelligent cat door flap
01:27:24
how much AI is involved in it these are
01:27:26
all AI related unfortunately uh option b
01:27:29
Willow a smart outdoor swing set that
01:27:32
generates
01:27:33
electricity option C Jedi a medical
01:27:37
delivery drone for hospitals jenzy jenzy
01:27:41
and saber a smart pepper spray
01:27:46
device these all could be real like
01:27:48
honestly no they really all could be
01:27:50
real can you play the music oh yes yes
01:27:53
sorry
01:27:55
is this the waiting music I already saw
01:27:57
that think we're supposed to play the
01:27:58
music while you're asking the question
01:28:00
right uh technically I think it's
01:28:01
supposed to be like the Jeopardy this is
01:28:03
how much time you have to answer it's
01:28:05
broken
01:28:06
sorry cuz this doesn't seem like the
01:28:08
right music but this is what this is the
01:28:10
right music okay you guys said that the
01:28:12
same yeah we did yeah we did oh I
01:28:14
[Music]
01:28:16
missed all right flip them and read
01:28:21
boys all right DAV we all we all pick
01:28:24
the same the same one we all picked B
01:28:26
the swing set all right you are correct
01:28:30
uh would you like to read what Ellis
01:28:31
wrote about for the swing set yes um
01:28:34
Ellis did a collab on this one um Willow
01:28:37
is a revolutionary Alternative Energy
01:28:39
Solution intended for families with
01:28:41
children comprising of both photonic and
01:28:45
electromechanical transductors Willow
01:28:48
focuses on two energy sources the sun
01:28:51
via solar panels and the near unlimited
01:28:53
energy of a child uh via a series of
01:28:57
passive components aimed at turning a
01:28:59
child's kinetic energy into useful
01:29:01
energy so that's too good for CES that's
01:29:04
why that's really needs to be a PR
01:29:07
person he can really spin this stuff the
01:29:10
reason I picked that was because I was
01:29:12
like there's no way that a child is
01:29:14
going to be able to create enough energy
01:29:16
on a play set that is going to be useful
01:29:18
to your home in any way which is why
01:29:20
it's realistic but what if the
01:29:21
electricity is just like to power some
01:29:23
outdoor lights that are on the swing set
01:29:24
for your yard have you a child they have
01:29:28
energy I had heard of the smart pepper
01:29:31
spray already me too I got that email
01:29:34
for that yeah I think I saw it on like a
01:29:36
Verge article what's smart about it I
01:29:39
don't know um knows how many times has
01:29:42
Bluetooth and it connects to a safety
01:29:44
app so I guess every time so it alerts
01:29:47
someone when you're spraying some yeah
01:29:48
so it has like a map and then it sends
01:29:50
the location whenever it's deployed
01:29:52
that's actually that's really SM also
01:29:54
the smart cat door sounds like a very
01:29:57
good idea sounds handy yeah what is so
01:29:59
smart about it also has an app I'm
01:30:01
hoping that it can tell when it's been
01:30:02
used so you can maybe say like oh I
01:30:04
haven't seen my cat in a while when did
01:30:06
it go outside but also I'm hoping when
01:30:09
it comes inside maybe at night it can
01:30:10
then lock it it does yeah so the cat's
01:30:14
not going out at night it not only
01:30:16
detects when a cat tries to bring in
01:30:18
prey into your home um I don't know how
01:30:21
that works I have no idea leave that
01:30:22
bird outside it'll lock the flap also um
01:30:26
it has a prey detection camera and an
01:30:27
app experience definely a camera it's
01:30:29
just a visual AI going I see something
01:30:32
not your cat awesome interesting all
01:30:35
right I think that's cool we all got
01:30:36
points for that yeah Co that's pretty
01:30:37
sick what does that bring the time for
01:30:39
us to get it oh yeah that is a good
01:30:41
question isn't
01:30:43
it uh let's see how many songs I'm just
01:30:45
gonna guess but they were so close to
01:30:48
each other I that's why I have to guess
01:30:50
yeah we just have to guess all right I
01:30:52
have no idea either yeah
01:30:55
what if we all get it right again since
01:30:58
we all got it right it looks like
01:30:59
Marquez is at 20 points nice Andrew's at
01:31:03
14 carry the one do the whatever thank
01:31:07
thought it was good David is also tied
01:31:09
at 20 points Perfect all right 2020
01:31:12
RuneScape AB RuneScape was awarded the
01:31:15
Guinness Book of World Records for most
01:31:16
original pieces of music in a video game
01:31:19
in 2017 as of November of 2023 how many
01:31:23
total songs are there in ruinscape
01:31:26
and option A is 100 sorry option A is
01:31:32
1,589
01:31:34
songs option b is
01:31:38
1,362
01:31:40
songs option C is
01:31:43
1,027 songs and option D is 856
01:31:48
songs if you need me to read that again
01:31:50
I can read it again man that's difficult
01:31:52
they're all close
01:31:54
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01:31:56
all of them seem absurd to me so it's
01:31:58
too many either way
01:32:05
yeah I just want to get this right
01:32:08
because it's run
01:32:12
escape uh
01:32:17
okay all right smile and wave I wrote
01:32:21
C did you all write the same thing no I
01:32:24
also wrote C you said c David yeah
01:32:28
incorrect what'd you write Marquez I
01:32:30
wrote a is also incorrect option b
01:32:37
1,362 I originally wrote B but I was
01:32:39
like the last question was do I get an
01:32:41
extra point if this is what the Music
01:32:42
Cape looks like man I actually don't
01:32:44
think you're far off with that I think
01:32:46
I'm pretty close right it's like a harp
01:32:48
nice hey wait point no you guys didn't
01:32:51
know what did you write Marquez I wrote
01:32:53
1, 89 which was the first one oh okay
01:32:56
yeah H yeah they're Banger songs too
01:32:59
just saying that's too many songs
01:33:01
they're good you didn't have to go that
01:33:03
hard The Sims has like 60 and that's way
01:33:05
too many wait I recently saw a video of
01:33:07
Katy Perry recording her song for The
01:33:10
Sims and she had to do it in
01:33:13
Sim very funny would you guys like a
01:33:16
bonus question for no points or we can
01:33:18
do it for points I would like a no
01:33:20
points
01:33:21
bonus this is a an obs question for this
01:33:24
week this question is about
01:33:27
crayfish I love crawfish I love crawfish
01:33:30
see exactly so oh crayfish cads mug Mud
01:33:34
Bugs ditch bugs freshwater lobsters
01:33:38
Mountain lobsters and yabes are all the
01:33:40
name for the same creature um these
01:33:43
little Crustaceans who are close
01:33:44
relative of the main lobster can be
01:33:47
found all across the US and have dozens
01:33:49
of regional nicknames crawfish can live
01:33:51
on every continent in the world except
01:33:54
for which
01:33:57
two every continent in the world I don't
01:34:00
think I can name all the continents
01:34:02
there's less than 10 right there's seven
01:34:05
seven
01:34:06
yeah
01:34:08
right
01:34:11
right this is tough yeah cuz I'm going
01:34:17
by that is tough no I'm going I'm going
01:34:22
that
01:34:23
but I'm going be mad because I changed
01:34:25
my answer halfway all right I wrote
01:34:29
Antarctica assuming we all wrote that
01:34:31
right I did and
01:34:33
Australia you
01:34:35
are half right oh yeah and then what did
01:34:38
you have all I wrote Antarctica in
01:34:41
Asia oh damn you're close to close I
01:34:45
wrote Antarctica and then I wrote
01:34:47
Australia then crossed out and Road
01:34:49
Asia Marquez is just a hybrid of me and
01:34:52
Andrew
01:34:54
you guys America you're half right
01:34:55
you're all half right uh the two places
01:34:57
that you won't find Crawfish are
01:35:00
according to we love crawfish.com
01:35:02
uh Africa and Antarctica thinking Africa
01:35:06
maybe would you like a fun fact about
01:35:08
crawfish sure that wasn't F fact why you
01:35:11
bring up C I have a fun fact about
01:35:12
crawfish I can eat 60 in a day did you
01:35:15
do that wait have you ever sorry before
01:35:19
the fun have you ever heard the parks
01:35:20
and wck joke where he's like I think I'm
01:35:22
allergic to Sushi anytime I eat 80 Sushi
01:35:24
and throw
01:35:26
up I've not heard that wait so when did
01:35:28
you eat 60 crawfish uh a couple years
01:35:31
ago my neighbor had a party where they
01:35:32
imported a ton of them directly from
01:35:35
Louisiana and had a backyard barbecue
01:35:38
crawfish party basically and just had
01:35:39
them all stacked on a table and I just
01:35:41
sat at the table and ate them the entire
01:35:43
party Jesus they were amazing God I also
01:35:46
watched him boil them alive individually
01:35:48
have you guys gotten the Tik tocker who
01:35:50
does the Crawfish boils I have seen he's
01:35:53
been going for years Mariah why did you
01:35:54
bring that why why did you introduce
01:35:56
that question there was a video I don't
01:35:59
know if it was a bone appe petitte video
01:36:01
or like some con k Nast video it was uh
01:36:05
interviewing people from every state and
01:36:07
asking them what they call a crawfish oh
01:36:10
cry daddy probably cish I was just in
01:36:14
New Orleans over Christmas break um for
01:36:17
no reason and you mean nin Nala yeah I I
01:36:22
never knew that people called it no Nola
01:36:24
yeah yeah anyway uh there was a band
01:36:28
there that I saw called caddy problems
01:36:30
they were really good nice and uh or
01:36:32
caddy issues one of the two probably C
01:36:35
CAD issues it's a funny name but also I
01:36:37
forgot about the whole croad thing and
01:36:38
it was
01:36:39
everywhere so you couldn't forget true
01:36:43
amazing all right all right so crawfish
01:36:46
fact uh they can shed SL Mt their shells
01:36:50
up to 15 times within their lifetime and
01:36:53
each time they shed their shell they
01:36:55
double in size oh oh my God I'm glad
01:36:58
they can only do it 15 times that's a
01:37:00
lot of doubles that's exponential growth
01:37:02
they double it si the difference between
01:37:05
this a level 12 and a level 15 is crazy
01:37:08
wait what's two to the
01:37:10
15 do you know this off at the top of
01:37:12
your head ask the R 2 4 8 16 no I got
01:37:15
this 32 64 128 256 512 1024 20 48 4096
01:37:23
8,00
01:37:25
83
01:37:30
16,36 16,
01:37:33
366
01:37:35
32,0
01:37:38
722 how you do power no
01:37:42
idea 64,000
01:37:46
65,000 oh there we go
01:37:49
400 65,500
01:37:53
and 64 what was the number you said
01:37:55
before that it's
01:37:58
32,768 oh I went too far which means
01:38:00
these
01:38:01
crads by the end of their life can be
01:38:04
32,670 768 wait is it double in size of
01:38:09
the of the size of the of the original
01:38:12
size or of the new size of the new size
01:38:14
I think it's each time they just double
01:38:16
size they double double how does
01:38:17
anything get
01:38:20
32,768 times they're probably born like
01:38:22
that big man microscopic but even even
01:38:25
if it was a one a single cell organism
01:38:28
and then by the end of its life it had
01:38:30
32,768 that makes sense it's 1 cim
01:38:33
across when it's mol for the first time
01:38:35
then it's
01:38:37
32,2 m
01:38:40
across huge it can't be it's got to be
01:38:43
tiny when 33 M CAD that would be
01:38:46
incredible have you ever heard of
01:38:47
dragon's breath candy no this is a Tik
01:38:50
Tok that I saw recently but they say it
01:38:52
it expands a million times because it's
01:38:55
a you turn into a loop and then you
01:38:57
cross it over and then pull it again but
01:38:59
like a million sounds absurd but it's
01:39:01
really
01:39:02
only probably like 20 times pulling it
01:39:05
because it is doubling every time look
01:39:06
like Str and it winds up looking like
01:39:08
hair at but it's like a Taffy almost
01:39:12
interes my second tiny fact not as
01:39:14
exciting is they walk forwards but they
01:39:17
swim backwards oh yes walk forwards that
01:39:20
I did know that's all I got all right
01:39:22
fun fact I also so walk forwards swim
01:39:24
backwards that's it for this week on
01:39:26
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01:39:30
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01:39:32
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