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I could answer this phone call we can see this is B okay let's do it is it Marquez I don't
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hello excuse oh they're gone
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okay what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the form podcast we are your hosts my name
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is Andrew and I'm David and it's going to be a little chaotic of an episode you
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already Marquez is gone he weirdly was in California playing ultimate oh then golf oh now it's Samsung unpacked oh and
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then recording something tomorrow so yeah but we're still holding down the fort we are um so we have some quick
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updates on Tik Tok and the switch 2 which we had some rumors and ideas about last week and a lot has changed um and
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then obviously Galaxy was also this week so we're going to talk about our first look at the s25 series and then wrap it
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up with some of our favorite apps that's right but first did you guys see the new OK Go music video I did it's you didn't
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like it that much what I it was very hard to pull off so I appreciate yeah for for those of
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you who don't know who OKO is um the treadmill guys Jen that that was
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15 years ago Dude I remember this is for the Millennials out there for sure the treadmill video was
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15 years ago but they are a band who the majority of their popular songs come out with some crazy viral music video
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generally involving one take yeah um this one I don't think it was one take I
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think there were some editing tricks but essentially what it was was shooting the video essentially 60 plus times on
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iPhones to have different sections of the screen and then playing it throughout 64 iPhones in the music video
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to sometimes create a grid sometimes to create you're looking at an iPhone and it pulls back and it's an iPhone and it keeps
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pulling back it's kind of wild it was pretty crazy because they had to hit play at the right times and then they
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aligned the phones so they had to have really good timing to make sure that everything worked because people's hands
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would like go through the phones my question was do you think that they green screened this at all think so cuz
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it said they took over a thousand takes here's my my two questions do we think
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they fully hit play on every single one just cuz the UI was never quite there except for the play button which still
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doesn't take away from timing where if it's a video and the play is fake it could have been a special um player
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something possibly or do you think it was one take I do not think it was one take cuz there were times where it would
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be like zoomed in and you would think it wasn't the iPhone and then all of a sudden you would see a little bit of
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that like fuzziness of filming a screen pop up at the end and then it would pull back to like another thing so I think
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there were a few Cuts in between the singular iPhones taking up the screen interesting oh all I'm going to say and
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I wasn't there not on the production team don't know anything about this stuff there is a yeah right crazy really
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there is a network protocol called ndi that is low latency highdef video over a
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network it works really really well especially when you have tons of monitors all on one network it would be
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unbelievably easy to get 60 iPhones record all these things load all the
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videos into an ndi server and just have them all triggered remotely and just pretend to press the play button that's
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what I was thinking too but then you still have to get the timing correct when you're pressing the screen you know
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yeah but I don't think that's the kind of thing that people would be like oh look there's like there's six frames I
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do think they filmed all of it individually or something because like it's not all perfect which is what makes
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it kind of really impressive and cool but go check it out if you haven't they've been doing that for ah they have
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it behind the scenes okay go check it out didn't catch there's a behind the scenes there is a behind the scenes
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watch well now I might about to be embarrassed by the ndi thing but if you're into video stuff go check out ndi
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because it's a really cool tool awesome neat okay so we're going to talk about
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Tik talkk next because with all of the different outcomes we kind of posed last week I don't think this specific outcome
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was in any of our cards in all of our omnicient we missed it may have kind of been all of our guesses put together
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Fair there is still not yet an outcome that's that is extremely Fair um but
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like real quick it is becoming increasingly harder and harder to cover Tech without politics involved
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especially with like a story like Tik Tok that we're about to go in right now um at waveform we are trying our best to
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be focused on Tech and Tech products and how they affect us as consumers because we are consumers talking about tech here
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um there's so many great places to go to who know way more about politics and we urge you to find those people but our
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goal on waveform is to focus on the tech and that's where we're going to try our best to do here and from here on out so
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I just wanted to say that because since Friday when this episode came out a
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whole lot of things happened yeah a lot happened and also nothing happened that's a really great way of putting it
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so I think like the best way I kind of wrote this down is I wrote a timeline essentially from the either the day
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after we recorded or the day we posted which was the 17th um and we're just going to go over what has happened in
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that timeline so pretty much right when the episode came out the Biden Administration set
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out a statement that said given the timing of when things go into effect over a holiday weekend a day before inauguration it will be up to the next
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Administration to implement the ban that we had been talking about for those outside the US that don't know what
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we're talking about a new president came in on the 20th not only did a new president come in a new president came
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in on holiday weekend where Monday is generally off so the inauguration was on
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a Monday the ban taking effect was on a Sunday so the next day would be a
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non-working day and this sort of thing has historical precedent in America past
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presidents have said hey uh I don't want to deal with this law I'm going to let the next guy figure out how we're going
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to handle this I'm out there are also times where presidents do the opposite where they're like I'm going to try and screw the next guy before this guy this
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is not crazy it's just like a a wild timing of everything y so previous
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administration said they were not going to enforce anything on the 19th despite that being the day we all saw as the
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band coming um and on the 17th after that statement was made Tik Tok had a statement that came out on their website
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said statement on possible shutdown the statements issued today by both the the Biden White House and the Department of
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Justice have failed to provide the necessary Clarity and Assurance to service providers that are integral in maintaining Tik tok's availability to
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over 170 million Americans unless the Biden Administration immediately provides a definitive statement to satisfy the most critical service
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providers assuring non- enforcement unfortunately Tik to will be forced to go dark on January 19th again January
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19th is the Sunday that we were all expecting correct however comes Saturday
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night the 18th those of us on Tik Tok and I'm pretty sure it was right around
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7 o'clock because of how many people in our slack all messaged the exact same screen they got on Tik Tok which was um
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as you open the app you got a popup that said important update from Tik Tok we regret a US law Banning Tik Tok will
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take effect on January 19th and force us to make our services temporary unavailable we're working to restore our
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service in the us as soon as possible and we appreciate your support stay tuned at that point though if you press
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dismiss you just kept scrolling Tik Tok which is what I did at first at first at first at first at first okay yes then
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maybe like an hour later there was a little like then people were going on it and realizing I can't like anything oh
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profile pictures are blank something weird is happening and then a couple so
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then in that time then we all got the sorry Tik Tok isn't available right now right around 11:00 p.m. so like not even
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a few hours later then we got the official Tik Tok is down message again on the 18th so not the day of the
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Banning yet says sorry Tik Tok isn't available right now a law Banning Tik Tok has been enacted in the US
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unfortunately that means you can't use Tik Tok for now we are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to
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reinstate Tik Tock once to reinstate Tik Tok once he takes office please stay tuned close app and that's when it
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locked down right really quick funny enough some people said the Vision Pro app worked fine yeah which I just think
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is very funny that is true but for the most part Tik toac was down at this point by the night time of Saturday so I
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want to know that was around 11:00 p.m. eastern time and I saw a lot of people saying it's very sketchy that they took
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it down before the actual ban went to effect and I want to note the reason that they did that is because as of
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midnight uh it would have been a $5,000 per user that downloaded the app fine on
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both Google and apple if users downloaded it from the App Store so Tik Tok probably just wanted to be very very
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careful there was a potential for that to happen like if it all went into effect and was a force the next day yes
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yes so that is the reason that they took it down around 11 or they start stopped uh and stopped serving the Tik Tok
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service around 11 and that happened as well as there was an axio report and there's lots of things you can see
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Saturday night Tik Tok goes dark and disappears from App Stores that's when we saw it started going off it and and places like Oracle hosting yes um right
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okay so Tik Tok is down everyone's kind of freaking out it actually happened um
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but because it came the day before tck we can all assume tick Tok is the one shutting it down the government didn't force any hands here yeah um then I
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think less than 12 hours later if you happen to be a uh you know
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when you have your phone and you're just like so used to pressing buttons without even doing it so I open Tik Tok even
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though it was closed and then all of a sudden I get a thing that says welcome back thanks for your Pati and support as a result of president Trump's efforts
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Tik Tok is back in the US you can continue to create share and discover things on Tik but this was still before
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the inauguration even happened this was Sunday yeah Okay cool so Tik tok's back
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so sort of it's still not in the App Store correct there are still some app
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stores it's not available in I know Google Play Store is still not available in at least as of recording and and the
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andle is also still not the App Store yeah I uh lightly thought about downloading it before they took it off
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just in case because I've never used it before but I decided to not do that and now I can never do it so I think that's
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for the best for me not never it'll probably come back I mean you could still go to like Tik tok.com I want to
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use Tik Tok that part is for the best yes okay um and so like kind of where we're at right now is since then the
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inauguration has happened there has been an extension I believe a 75-day
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extension um I don't even know this is saying that b danan should be giving 50%
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of equity to an American company I believe it has to be in order to uh get
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through this is the part where things get things get unclear because there's a lot of possibilities being thrown around
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there's right now we going wait until we actual that are
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actually um people say things and until actual things are actually happening you
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know for us Tik Tok is up um there was Panic it was kind of fun watching it on
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Saturday before like the imminent shutdown and the people on Tik Tok kind of freaking out but yeah we're kind of
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in a place where we'll see what happens I do think one of our predictions was and I think a lot of people assumed
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there would be like a push and like give it some more time we just weren't expecting to lose it get it back and
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then get the prolonged of it um but I have a feeling I wouldn't be surprised if in 75
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days we still have no idea what's really going on I also want to note uh I think on Saturday over the weekend Instagram
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decided to change the shape of the profile grid from Square to the shape of
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a video and they forc that on everybody I saw someone posting about that like
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last week and they're clearly foaming at the mouth waiting for their opportunity of course they are so and that Clips app
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that they announced it's like a video editing cap cut competitor that was the funniest I saw so like everyone knew
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this was happening at Tik Tok I saw a bunch of people on Instagram freaking out they're like I lost cap cut how am I going to edit like I don't think people
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realize how many social media influencers big or small are just
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editing on their phone in something like cap cut for things outside of there was a funny thing where someone from The
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Verge posted on threads like I bet Instagram's only been working on this cap cut clone for like a couple of days
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and they already announcing it and then Adam misseri replied we've been working on it for a couple of months actually
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which is like okay so we're gonna leave that there see
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what happens the next week will probably be enlightening maybe or we'll know
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literally nothing or we'll know literally nothing we'll see on a less terrifying note switch 2 actually got
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announced we have Peach we have Mario we have Kirby maybe I don't know I don't I
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don't really keep track of these things I don't know yeah okay so so if you guys will remember we were extremely confused
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last week because it was the day before maybe the switch 2 was maybe going to get announced maybe and it did and then
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Adam used a bunch of the footage in the actual video so if you were watching the video version of this podcast last week
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you did see the actual trailer or of the actual trailer going over what we were talking about because we were mostly
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correct we were mostly correct I think I I think there was a comment that was like it's so funny that they said they
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don't exactly know what it is yet everything they said was pretty much what it which to be fair it's not like
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we did the reporting no not at all it was a leaks usually leaks a day before an event are pretty accurate yeah yeah
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yeah often I think the couple things that we're not quite sure about still I'll do not sure about and then we'll do
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things that we are sure about okay I don't Mario it was very much a uh like
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teaser trailer so we didn't get really any hard specs so we don't there was it's larger I don't think we got exact
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screen size we did not get exact screen size but people have been doing a lot of digging and people are guessing it is 8
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in based on the scaling stuff okay I love to think that there are people out
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there mathematically fig doing I love that doing that um one thing we did not
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figure out is exactly how the magnets work um there
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are at least Society still has not figured that out what are magnets I it seems like there's this small uh piece
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that goes inside of the switch and then there's also we did find out the buttons on the back are the magnetic release so
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whether this is a fully polarizing magnet whether this is I lik your idea of like it's a magnet with maybe just
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something that kind of pushes it off to connect it disconnect it enough yeah people are kind of speculating that when you press button it basically pushes it
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just far away from where the magnetic field really latches it in that it kind of falls off who's to say that be a
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simpler uh mechanism it would and either way a thousand times better than the slide mechanism yes yes so um we don't
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oh one thing uh that little protruding part from the inside you know uhuh so
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for those that didn't see the trailer yet basically the switch to is the body and then it has this interior part where
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the joycons attach but they're sort of like a usba type looking thing on the
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inside and many people are concerned about this I think we had um minor conversation about this last week uh
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still don't really know like how that connects to the joycons as well that's sort of an un question I think the it
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almost goes in like a plug and I was wondering if it is polarizing magnets if there's just a small place right there
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that holds on to that little protrusion and that's how it kind of
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it looks like do you know the usba thumb drives where they're really thin and you take them apart and it's just the contct
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interor cont it looks like that on both sides yeah so that's interesting um but yeah if the actual Ellis did you watch
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the actual trailer the sound design in it is so
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good it's so good I will watch and provide feedback next week I would love to hear your thoughts on it because it's
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just like it's so satisfying that clicks I think uh Marquez Eric and I were
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watching and they did the first like joyon snap oh man that was so nice yeah it
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very nice yeah I probably should have watched it but I just don't play games like that it was just beautifully done
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they did a great job it just like it's the switch and then it like kind of pops and gets a little bigger and then the joycons like fade over cuz they're black
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and we have these pops of color on the interior where it connects and also right under the joys yeah um did you I
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saw people talking about that their way of saying that so we didn't get the actual if we know their hall effect um
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right but somebody do you know the part where both of them kind of snap on and race around someone think they're a
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mouse well people were saying also that it's drifting around so that's their hint at that it's they're fixing the
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drift drift that would be a deep cut would be very funny somebody thinks that you're going to be able to use it as a
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mouse in certain games saw something with that as well but was a little confused weird because it seems like it would be easier to just use a pointer
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but you know I don't know they definitely have uh IR blasters on them so so I was too deep into the edit last
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week to really like take in any of this Nintendo stuff I was just grabbing footage and dropping it in but did we
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learn anything about it this is what we did learn well we know it's bigger we know the general design of it we know
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some upgrades physically on the exterior of it USB ports what we also know is
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that April 2nd will be Nintendo Direct that presumably announces it and then that there's a couple other days in some
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larger cities with experiences that you can go to about like a week fifth sixth and seventh I think uh it's different
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weeks depending on the city so it's April for New York and then later on in the month they're doing LA and then
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they're doing Dallas later too as well I signed up for a ticket for all three for a few more days you are able
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to put in for one of these slots you can only sign up for one slot per City so I
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imagine that the very first slot in New York because it's the first experience in the world is probably going to have
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the most people signing up for it it's a lottery system so you can still sign up until I believe early February so go do
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that if you live in the United States I will be flying wherever I get a ticket if that even happens I doubt that's
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going to happen but you know so also uh at the very end of the video they showed
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Mario Kart surprise um but one interesting tidbit
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about Mario Kart is that it looked like there were 24 lanes for carts so people are speculating 24 player Mario Kart
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okay can I pitch you my favorite game type that me and my friends play in Mario Kart and how much cooler it would
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be with 24 players okay don't tell me what I think you're thinking no no baby Park okay you know that map the small
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map with more it's just an oval with and then everyone plays as Roy just because
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it's a funny character and everyone the same and you play only green shells so you're just racing around this oval
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and you're just launching green shells so imagine 24 players with chos that
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will be the first thing that I want to do maryal cart maryart Mary Mar what do
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we think the C button does what's the C button the button that has a c that no one knows what it does
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oh that's a good oh I think it's probably it probably stands for capture and I bet you it's a screenshot there used to be a screenshot button there a
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screenshot button on the switch but it's probably the capture button that'd be my guess um um yeah so we don't really know
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a lot more about it I don't love this the stand looks a little bit different and I feel like it looks a little it's
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not squared off anymore it's kind of rounded yeah and I feel like that's going to look oh the doc the dock sorry
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not the stand the dock looks a little bit rounded I don't think that's going to look as nice with most TV consoles
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I'm guessing the reason they did that is they didn't want to physically make a bigger dock to take up for it and so
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just the roundness makes it look less weird that it's sticking that far out of the top that's a good point that's all I
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can think of that's a good point uh yeah I'm excited that there is a USBC port on the top now um yeah I would go watch
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dunkey's video on the switch dkey did one already I can't believe dunkey's still around he dude I haven't seen him
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minute so yeah um we were right we did we did it we did no
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original journalism but we were still right okay if you do want to read some great original journalism about the
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switch 2 polygon has an article called all of our guesses about the Nintendo switch 2's mysterious C button and it is
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so funny it's not serious at all like one of the things is Criterion and it
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just opens up the Criterion Collection for you to watch one of the things they put was Columbo like the the 70s TV
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detective and like it just gives you a Columbo cratch C anyway go check out the article it's hilarious all right last
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thing that we just want to mention before we head to break hey David do you remember last year when Sam Alman said
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I'm going to raised $7 trillion yeah well he fell short yeah what well he
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there's 500 billion now which is a percentage of 7 trillion uh anyway right
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after the inauguration it was announced that $500 billion was being invested over the next four years to build the
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Stargate project to build AI infrastructure in the United States uh it is a joint venture between open AI
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SoftBank Oracle and mgx other partners include arm Nvidia and Microsoft but
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effectively they are building all of these crazy AI data data centers in the United States uh100 billion is being
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immediately invested into the project with the other $500 billion coming over the next four years so is that just like
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I don't know 100 Nvidia 460s or 409s whatever 509s yeah uh this project was
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actually kind of already announced back in April but back then they were talking about a100 billion investment so I guess
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negotiations are changed or the number ballooned or something like that um but we'll probably be hearing more about it
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openai did officially put out a press release about it on their website so you can go read that if you want to hear
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more about that kind of interesting uh considering there are many AI competitor
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companies right now and none of them are involved in this so also I just I just
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want to point out you know we make that joke about that tweet that's like uh that the book don't used the murder
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machine and then someone names do you guys know the plot of Stargate the movie the plot of Stargate is these scientists
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use technology to essentially activate this portal which takes them to a world
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ruled by a fascist just saying not a good thing to name this
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project probably not a good thing to name this project terrible thing to name this project well on that note everybody
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we're going to go watch unpacked we're going to go we're going to we're literally going to go watch unpacked and come back and report on and we'll report
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on on it and we'll talk about it and we'll have some fun things to say I'm sure and it will not be 75%
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Adam kick it off uh I am pre-recording this and sending it to the pod folks
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because it's a few days before normal recording and I have now seen and held
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and used briefly the new s25 lineup from Samsung all of the ones that we know about anyway s25 s25 plus and s25 Ultra
00:27:44
and I have some thoughts so I'm going to leave them here for y'all to react to First up is the
00:27:50
designs they're the same uh we we've had some talks about this on the podcast earlier some some leaks and rumors and
00:27:56
stuff like that but it turns out most of it true from the outside these phones are almost indistinguishable from the last ones they have these new colors
00:28:04
that are like gray blue silver and black
00:28:09
like they're extremely tame colors and dimensions wise shapes wise materials
00:28:15
wise for all intents and purposes they're the same phones I think for the base 2 phones the only way to tell them apart is they moved the 5G antenna to
00:28:23
the other side of the phone really subtle for the ultra there's bigger rings around the camera ceras and
00:28:28
slightly thinner bezels so it's technically a 6.9 in screen now instead of 6.8 but otherwise new colors and
00:28:34
that's it little boxier you know when phones used to do S updates and they were totally Shameless about how hey
00:28:40
this is just a spec bump with the same design and that's what we're doing this year that's basically what's happening
00:28:46
this is a Galaxy S 24s so that's the first part I'm curious if you guys have
00:28:51
thoughts on designs not changing because I've always thought about change for the sake of change kind of getting annoying
00:28:58
and like you end up losing your identity you want to sort of narrow in on what you like as an aesthetic and and repeat
00:29:05
it and iterate on it this is just it's just the same so I'm curious about that but anyway number two is there are new
00:29:12
specs uh they're also pretty minor though it's just the new Snapdragon 8 Elite 4 Galaxy chip across all of these
00:29:19
phones and there's 12 gigs of ram in the base phones now so all of them have 12 gigs of RAM across the board which is
00:29:25
nice uh obviously these new AI models will need more RAM uh and the Snapdragon
00:29:30
8 Elite for Galaxy I have to do some benchmarks we got to test and get the phones into review I don't know how
00:29:36
different it's going to be versus the other Snapdragon 8 Elites but I assume it's going to be a pretty great chip because we love that chip but no
00:29:44
ip69 no Ultra fast charging no bigger batteries no silicon carbide no brighter
00:29:50
display no new cameras no nothing it's just just a new chip and more RAM so
00:29:57
those the new new specs everything else that's new about these phones is AI and
00:30:04
software so I'll I'll you know I'll link the video below with my first impressions where I I demo some of these
00:30:10
features maybe if you guys want to watch that then you'll see some of them maybe insert a clip but there are some that
00:30:15
are kind of useful there's this new assistant that is only triggered by holding the power button there is no
00:30:20
voice command for it but it's sort of a combo of Gemini and Bixby there's also a new AI select tool which if you forget
00:30:28
about it you could just never use it on your phone but if you do use it there's some cool stuff like making gifs of videos instantly and summarizing
00:30:35
articles instantly if you want to select them with AI select but in general like
00:30:41
this stuff is going to come to the s24 series I'm pretty confident Samsung wouldn't tell me that but just based on
00:30:46
what I know about how good those phones have been and the history that Samsung has with you know seven years of
00:30:53
software support which is great by the way that's a pro of of getting a Samsung phone uh I feel like yeah a lot of this
00:30:59
stuff is going to come to the
00:31:09
s24su this stuff and I'm sure there's some part of the Snapdragon 8 Elite 4
00:31:14
Galaxy that Samsung is going to tie to this AI stuff but hopefully as much of
00:31:20
this as possible comes to s24 and so that's basically it uh a
00:31:26
pretty minor update of these new phones and you know if you're Samsung how can
00:31:32
you really blame them right like the s24 is sold really well for them they won awards there were our my smartphone of
00:31:38
the year was the s24 ultra and a lot of people liked it but also that phone was
00:31:43
kind of close to the year before that which was honestly pretty similar to the year before that so it does kind of feel
00:31:50
stale it's a it's a good boring phone it's zero risk for Samsung and therefore
00:31:56
zero risk for most of the Target demographic for this phone but I'll leave it at that let me know what your
00:32:02
thoughts are were you hoping for more were you expecting more or honestly just not really surprised that Samsung's playing it safe when will they ever not
00:32:09
play it safe again that's a question to think about take it away maybe with this
00:32:14
Edge model I feel like Marquez started that off as like podcasty talking to us and
00:32:20
then just turned into a video at the end like that could have been the video it felt like his video script by the end
00:32:25
like let me know right below that like button Marquez I will let you know in person can I do my first really really
00:32:32
quick thought right from the one of the first things he said sure okay the s25
00:32:37
ultra is very slightly different looking and he said more boxy and I would argue
00:32:43
especially looking straight on I think it feels less boxy I I think what he's saying is that now that the rails are
00:32:49
more squared off that part feels a little boxier but looking straight on
00:32:54
the old one pretty much had 90° angles in the corners this is much rounder on the corners and I do think looks nicer
00:33:01
it is so minimal but it kind of has I liked the Box iPad Vibes to it which I
00:33:08
like this new one better all right super super minimal I would like to say it in person I would like to respond to
00:33:13
Marquez brownley who said maybe change for change's sake is a bad thing I
00:33:20
disagree with you because uh in the Golden Age of Android phones especially
00:33:26
with Nexus devices who the hell know what's it was going to look like the next year you know we got LG we got
00:33:32
Huawei we got uh Samsung we got all these manufacturers making random stuff
00:33:38
it was great it was amazing I loved it and I don't think anyone is excited about these phones this is you know I
00:33:45
understand why Samsung is doing it but if you live in the United States it is so dominated by Apple and Samsung and
00:33:52
they have all both of them have released the same phone for 4 years now and we
00:33:57
just really really need some uh some mixup in here you know this is this is a
00:34:03
perfect example of when you kind of become the default phone espe to the people outside of all of you listening
00:34:09
to this podcast you can be safe and I'll be honest even someone I listen to this
00:34:14
podcast I live this podcast um I bought the s24 because it was kind of the
00:34:20
boring safe phone and I just knew it was going to do what I wanted it to and I decided not to take a risk and the price
00:34:26
was good for it and also Samsung's trading deals are always like some of the best trading deals always look for
00:34:32
those um so it's not the worst thing but it is the safe thing and it's far less fun to talk about right yeah it's
00:34:38
difficult so like Marquez kind of already went over the high level details of the entire event and all of the
00:34:43
phones uh but we can talk about them briefly it's just so hard to talk about because the s25 and s25 plus are
00:34:51
basically the same phone as the s24 s24 plus you're not really getting a lot more new you're just getting that new
00:34:56
chipset and some of these new AI features uh something to note that the
00:35:01
Verge put out an article about is that the ultra the S Pen no longer can be
00:35:07
used at to take photos and they also got rid of the little magic wand uh feature
00:35:12
and they cited that nobody was using them correct I could I could I could
00:35:18
hear that um I think that taking photos with it was still very useful although I
00:35:23
think a lot of people probably just used the gestures cuz they they have a lot of ways to take selfies I feel like every year they need to come up with a new way
00:35:29
to take a selfie you can do it with a Samsung a Galaxy watch as well yeah or you can like put your palm out and it
00:35:35
starts the countdown so you know I get it but it is a little bit sad to see
00:35:40
yeah it does seem like the main so that's one thing that's changed it the changes are mostly in s25 Ultra yeah and
00:35:46
what that is is very slight visual change because of that visual change and smaller bezels we do go from 6.8 to 6.9
00:35:54
Quad HD AMOLED 120 HZ cool the ultra wide camera goes from 12 megapixels to
00:36:01
50 megapixels and they talked a lot about that and how it's better macro photos better Ultra wide photos and
00:36:08
video that's all fun um I believe there's the new glass on the front ceramic glass ceramic Corning Gorilla
00:36:17
armor two whatever um so I think sure I don't I'm so at that point in it they
00:36:25
had said like this next gen glass is the most durable ever and I realized that
00:36:30
every tech company out there needs some new vocabulary because we can't just say
00:36:36
most advanced Ever every single year for every single update sure as hell can
00:36:42
well a lot of the time there's like there's an inverse relationship between shatter resistant and scratch resistant
00:36:48
and a lot of the times on a Tik Tock cycle they'll just make the next version more shatter resistant but not talk
00:36:53
about how it's less scratch resistant and vice versa and they just go back and forth forever so you know I don't know I think a big
00:37:01
part of the reason that it's probably more durable as well is because of the shape and because there's less of the
00:37:06
screen bleeding over the edge when Apple switched the phone to be square with the
00:37:13
iPhone they also said like oh ceramic shield and sure you might have some of those ceramic elements inside of it whatever most of that durability came
00:37:20
from the fact that now it was squared off so you know uh okay we can talk
00:37:26
about some other stuff pricing we've got $7.99 yeah that was something we didn't have I don't I don't believe even in the
00:37:33
briefing from marquez's video has pricing in it I don't think so so the base model of the standard s25 starts at
00:37:39
$7.99 the plus starts at $9.99 and the ultra starts at $12.99 I can talk about one thing that I
00:37:47
know you'll be interested in and I only know this because of fellow um ch2 Ally
00:37:53
benun on 9 to5 Google right before this came out confirms that s25 is ready for
00:37:59
ch2 but not ch2 inside of the phone um he had a great article called Galaxy s25
00:38:05
is ready for ch2 but there's a problem with mag safe accessories and just uh about a bunch of different accessories
00:38:10
it looks like they have the very typical like stand that can hold your phone your watch and charge your earbuds or your
00:38:16
ring actually wow this can do all four it looks like um but yeah so Chu ready
00:38:24
which means in case you haven't listened to us complain about this for the last month it means there will be accessories
00:38:30
that are ch2 magsafe whatever magnetically um compatible but it does
00:38:35
not mean that the magnets are inside of the phone so they'll have chii ready cases well I lost that bet well it's
00:38:41
funny though because these um these ones that they have are clear and we all there's also like um dbrand which is a
00:38:48
channel sponsor by the way has a clear case with a magnet on the back Marquez and I made the joke that pretty much the
00:38:54
only way you can tell people you have the s25 lineup is by buying a clear case because the colors are the only new
00:39:00
thing that really looks any different from the series before that is true so go on and grab one of those the I just
00:39:08
mini rant about Chu ready we have already done this but I just I just want to say like now it's just a way for them
00:39:16
to make more money on the cases yeah well and so does chi have to
00:39:23
license this two cases CH to ready right uh yeah seems like a good way for to make even more licensing money to All
00:39:29
Case manufacturers and Etc so many bait and switches I'm sad cool so can I just
00:39:37
say that the s25 ultra looks so good I think it looks good man I think it looks
00:39:42
way better than the titanium railing the twoone love that the twoone is nice um I
00:39:48
do like I said I like the curved Corners more and the flat edges I think it looks really nice um but it seems like most of
00:39:57
the stuff we're getting is AI based yay which they spent there was a the the
00:40:04
Samsung unpacked went out of order of how we were talking about it it was like straight into Galaxy AI talking about
00:40:09
now brief and the now bar and a lot of different AI Tech summarization and then right into Gemini there was a point
00:40:16
later where they started talking a little more about like pricing and stuff and Adam goes hold on we can't record
00:40:22
the podcast they haven't talked about the phones yet and like three of us turned around to him and said no they did they did like no they didn't talk
00:40:27
about like the cameras or anything like no we talked about the cameras at it's it was completely missed it it was like
00:40:33
in the middle it I just wish they would start off with it but let's get into
00:40:39
some of the AI stuff I think okay would you agree that the tldr of the AI
00:40:45
features on this phone are a lot of the stuff we've seen in Google and Apple phones at least what they've announced
00:40:51
but now in a Galaxy phone and some of them having slightly updated yes
00:40:56
features but some of the slightly updated features were also Google announcing features that this just happens to be
00:41:03
the first phone that it releases on which we have seen from Samsung and Google every year for the past like three years yeah it works good for
00:41:09
Google it lets them announce early without having to have their Hardware out early but also lets Galaxy have a
00:41:15
selling point of like a couple extra features that you didn't have before I think one of them specifically is Gemini
00:41:21
live being multimodal so you can talk about things on your phone screen right that wasn't available for now we have it
00:41:28
and I think that's kind of neat Gemini live is also pretty good so yeah it I always go this sounds pretty cool and
00:41:33
then I hear Gemini live talk and I go I want nothing to do with that yeah yeah I
00:41:39
mean since it's AI you still have to verify literally everything it tells you but um it's kind of cool that it sounds
00:41:44
like a natural conversation Le at least they had a new feature that they also announced where it can now take action
00:41:51
in across multiple apps mhm so you could say like add this to my calendar and
00:41:56
send it text to this person that were on for the day in the Galaxy AI portion
00:42:02
before Gemini we had things called the now brief which is essentially personalization of different information
00:42:09
that you might find useful throughout your day based on what it's seeing on your phone also something called the now bar which is a lock screen widget that
00:42:15
shows the most relevant piece of information available to you and looks a lot like live activities Ione can show
00:42:21
you scores can show maybe how far your Uber is away from you if a flight's getting delayed stuff like that Wonder
00:42:27
going to need apis cuz the live activities API is a thing that developers have to implement I wouldn't
00:42:33
be surprised if it does that would make sense um also like natural language actions um one of them I think this is
00:42:40
going to be one of those things that's good for accessibility for people who aren't Tech Focus like us an example they used is telling your phone my eyes
00:42:47
are getting tired and it adding the like night blue light dimming onto it um or I
00:42:52
hated that though you hated if your eyes are getting tired stop looking your just stop looking at your phone fair but if
00:42:59
you can say stuff like that that's a little more natural to your phone to be able to change some settings around or things in the phone that's going to all
00:43:06
of us family it people out there it's going to save us a few phone calls that's true long as people actually use
00:43:12
the AI features that's true it all depends on I guess how easy it is to get to those right well now you can just
00:43:18
hold down the side button right so that's another interesting thing like Marquez mentioned uh now if you hold down the power button it doesn't open
00:43:25
necessarily Gemini nor uh Bixby but it's like a combination of
00:43:30
the two it seems like kind of like a combination of like using Gemini but then also using he said Bixby I don't
00:43:37
remember them saying Bixby in the show at all but what he's talking about is from the briefing and I don't know
00:43:43
exactly what they said in there but it seems like holding down that button gives you Gemini until Gemini needs to
00:43:50
physically interact with your phone somehow then it goes into Galaxy's AI whatever they're calling it do you guys
00:43:55
remember how we had most of the with Google assistant and you down the power button so scared what I was thinking
00:44:02
Google Assistant just going away soon I mean they barely ever talk about it I know they had the similar situation to
00:44:08
this Bixby thing in the uh pixel the pixel event when they they
00:44:14
barely really talked about Google assistant at all it's just Gemini Gemini Gemini and then at one point they said
00:44:19
and Gemini can use Google Assistant to do the like turn on and off your lights in your home and it was like
00:44:25
where what is this branding I'm not really sure I don't know it feels like
00:44:30
Google assistant and Bixby are kind of like in the retirement home together and
00:44:36
Gemini and Galaxy AI are their newborns so um yeah yeah a a couple other quick
00:44:42
things there's being able to ask your phone to find specific photos so it's basically like Gallery search but with
00:44:48
voice they use an example of a dog in a bathroom and but the more you ask it the more it can use context to think like
00:44:54
that was in October because you're asking about Halloween picture you were already able to do that in Google photos
00:44:59
so now with voice cool awesome um Circle to search which was a great example of
00:45:07
you mentioning like here's something Google AI is doing but it's launching
00:45:12
first because I believe the s24 launch Circle to search now this now the new features are if it sees in that Circle a
00:45:20
URL and address uh phone number it'll be able to like let you click on those and
00:45:26
go straight to whatever you need for them instead of just a web search for them right awesome they just get to
00:45:31
announce new AI features every 6 months instead of every year like Google Google gets to have a second event that they
00:45:38
have to do zero work for although ironically at the pixel event because they didn't announce the pixels for like
00:45:44
the first hour they used a Galaxy s24 Ultra to show off all the new Gemini Fe
00:45:49
I'm sure that was part of the deal yeah probably part of the deal so with AI stuff the thing that kind of made me the
00:45:56
most upset was saying that by purchasing these phones they all come with 6 months of
00:46:02
Gemini advance and 2 terab of cloud storage for free yeah which means why
00:46:07
does that make you upset because then eventually we will have to what is the difference between Gemini and Gemini Advance is are we losing Gemini Gemini
00:46:14
Advanced is like the paid open AI thing where okay so we'll still get all of these features without paying for
00:46:22
it that's what makes me upset great Point What What In Here will I
00:46:27
potentially lose if I don't have Gemini Advance which is a monthly subscription correct question it's a good question
00:46:34
question yeah what if you stop paying for it after 6 months and most of these features stop working that's terrible I
00:46:40
don't think that's true I don't think that's how it's going to be are you willing to put your name behind that
00:46:46
statement David I will bet on it I could be super wrong and I could have missed something so please tell me how wrong I
00:46:52
am gem Advance is just a more advanced model and you'll probably still have access to regular the regular Gemini
00:46:58
control stuff and searching stuff so if you don't pay your phone gets Dumber that would be horrible that would be
00:47:04
terrible man are we really moving towards a world where your phone is a subscription plan outside of the already
00:47:09
subscription plan that you already paid for it use it outside of the carrier plan that you also pay for yes in fact
00:47:15
outside of your texting plan that you the fact it took this long is actually surprising there's like four layers of
00:47:21
subscriptions though yeah wow so good question we'll have to figure that out
00:47:27
let's I think the last thing I kind of had here is a couple AI uh photo video tools okay um I guess not all of them
00:47:35
are AI because they did introduce log video even if they're not AI they'll call it AI okay ai ai log video um they
00:47:42
did introduce the face swap which we've talked about on Google photos before there's an audio eraser that we've seen
00:47:48
a couple different times that allows you in post to erase wind noise background noise increase regular talking noise to
00:47:56
make it more clear which was the one time Ellis went to use the bathroom during the audio feature I know he was
00:48:02
really sad to miss it this event in general yes was really boring it was
00:48:08
horrible um they've been horrible for a while so most tech events not just Samson most tech
00:48:15
events yeah but I feel like the the the fact that they like refus to change how
00:48:21
the phones even look kind of like is uh mirrored in the boring level of the event they also showed a render of the
00:48:29
um AR glasses again so not only did they show the render of the glasses it started as I guess it started as like
00:48:37
this weird timeline they showed this like hypothetical timeline of what could
00:48:42
be going forward with how all of this AI Works in it and it showed a phone a folding phone a mul they called it multi
00:48:50
folding then goggles or VR headset then glasses yeah which implies
00:48:57
that a trifold is going to come out before the that's a really good point that I didn't think of cuz all the
00:49:02
rumors right now there was a timeline it was a timeline I guess I don't know if it's timeline of release date or
00:49:09
timeline of Technology maybe um but then they did show timeline of Lies a Time
00:49:16
lies but then right after that they showed a render of the front of a Google
00:49:21
or I'm calling it Google headset because we're talk we've been they called it Google XR in the
00:49:27
go Android XR Android XR yeah I think it's Android XR but there was a name it was project I have Android XR that's
00:49:33
right okay but it is Project something and then later again though in an AI infog in a graphic about AI they showed
00:49:41
something that said said headset and said glasses so not only are we talking about they mentioned glasses twice
00:49:48
they're definitely mentioning glasses or they like alluded to it they actually talked about the headset a little they alluded to glasses when Google releases
00:49:54
their Gemini glasses it will probably be at a Samsung it so you know yeah okay
00:50:00
something that was at the very end that makes no sense we have briefly mentioned
00:50:06
the existence of a potential iPhone 17 slim and then we mentioned the existence
00:50:12
of a potential Galaxy s25 slim uh obviously to beat Apple to the punch
00:50:18
they did the credits which was two screens very quickly so that they could one more thing us um they are calling it
00:50:25
The Galaxy s25 Edge which if you don't know is a call back to the S6 Edge the
00:50:31
Galaxy Note Edge the Galaxy S7 Edge which is when they were first starting to figure out how to bend displays uh so
00:50:38
they sort of had this like it would bend over the side of the right side and they would display information on it they are
00:50:44
just reusing that brand name to make a Slimmer phone um is what it seems to be
00:50:50
they showed a very quick Splash video and a very quick render and at the event
00:50:56
they had have a few units but you have to stand like 10t back from it so you can't really see exactly what it looks
00:51:02
like Marquez took a little video for us oh did he post it he did it's a random Channel we're we're seeing this it's in
00:51:09
way for yeah we're seeing it right now it is extremely hard to tell what's different about it really because they
00:51:15
sort of have this like exploded it's not even exploded view hanging hanging
00:51:21
they're hanging it I don't know it just looks thinner I don't know yeah so it was it was like a they tried to pull the
00:51:26
like Marvel end of credits but they knew the minute credits roll people would peie so the credits were 6 seconds long
00:51:33
and then then they said um now you think you've seen it all and then like s25
00:51:38
Edge which I will give them credit all of us looked at each other and said this didn't leak right are we actually
00:51:45
getting surprised it may have been a little boring but I am hyped anytime there's something that genuinely
00:51:50
surprises me in one of these events atast kudos to Samsung what if it's an s25 without the AI features like if
00:51:58
you're like slim we slimmed out the AI features I don't want any of this one thing I can see from this and you could
00:52:04
see from the render is it's definitely not just like the s25 because it only has two cameras it's an oval camera bump
00:52:10
on the back which looks very similar to like an a regular iPhone um but Slimmer
00:52:17
I hate to compare everything to iPhone in this but like I know it's just kind of where we're at yeah um yeah you can
00:52:23
see in this one clip very much so just two two cameras and like a flash or a microphone underneath it right and it's
00:52:30
like hanging on this bar and there's just an absolute sea of people reaching
00:52:36
over trying to see it and people sticking their cameras over and security guards like shushing them back do we
00:52:42
think this is potentially like the new version of the S Series Fe so like could
00:52:48
you see this coming out approximately the size of the s25 plus very similar
00:52:53
features maybe slight spec bump down and in that like $700 range I think it's
00:53:00
going to be $11,000 I think that would be a terrible move cuz the Fe has such great brand
00:53:07
recognition actually it's probably going to be more I wonder if it's going to be 11100 I feel like they're going to pull some sort of like it took a lot of
00:53:14
intense special engineering to get it to be this slim and still de like deliver this level of performance so you're
00:53:20
paying for the extra you know cuz I think that you're getting one less camera too I know but I think that the
00:53:27
iPhone 17 slim that is rumored is also rumored to be way more expensive
00:53:33
so we know nothing else about it um The Verge asked for comment and a Samsung representative said they had another
00:53:40
nothing further to share other than the teas that unpacked which was clearly planned cool thanks guys uh obviously
00:53:49
the Hands-On video that Marquez did is out now on the YouTube channel so go watch that if you want to know more
00:53:54
information about these phones otherwise um that was basically the
00:54:00
event that was I'm sorry that sounded pretty down but the event was pretty boring I think everyone can admit that
00:54:06
that doesn't mean these phones are going to be terrible they're probably going to be some of the best phones of the year
00:54:11
like they always are Samsung is this wild phenomenon where like they release
00:54:16
6 months before everyone else it's generally a pretty boring event and then you get to the end of the year and you
00:54:21
go nope that was probably one of the best phones of the year so I don't know how they it did did we mention the the
00:54:28
TV thing the TV watch thing oh can you mention that I thought this was the coolest thing they announced and I
00:54:33
wasn't even I was packing my car I don't even know how to feel about it it's like uh if your if your watch knows you're
00:54:40
asleep and you also have a Samsung TV and they're both set up on smart things
00:54:46
your TV will turn off because it's be it'll be like oh this dude's asleep you might have to do that over
00:54:52
there's a pizza party happening on of us folks this is not a drill um yeah your TV will turn off um and on the one hand
00:55:01
saving electricity pretty cool I think it'll be good you know save electricity it'll be interesting there's an entire
00:55:06
generation of children who remember waking up at 4:00 a.m. to The George Lopez Show playing and just being
00:55:12
confused uh it'll also be interesting because I I do feel like there's a decent amount of YouTube AdSense revenue
00:55:19
generated by autop play while people are abely true I was just going to say like
00:55:24
the way I'm assuming TVs still have this but TVs have had this for a long time but it's called sleep sleep timer which
00:55:31
is you knew you were going to fall asleep to this turn this off hour has a sleep time do they really the the
00:55:38
problem with that is is I feel like every time I was like there's nothing like just closing your eyes and going to
00:55:45
sleep when you are the most tired if that happens to be out like it's the worst when you're on the couch and
00:55:50
you're like I need to make it to my bed but I'm not going to be as sleepy as I am right now but if you're watching in bed or if you just want to fall as sleep
00:55:57
if I were cognizant enough to set my sleep timer I would always make it to the sleep timer and then it would turn
00:56:02
off and I would turn it back on and then fall asleep with the TV on being able to just watch and be like you're asleep I
00:56:10
can turn I can safely turn this off yeah thing ever but I think it's good because I often will fall asleep to like YouTube
00:56:16
or something and then I wake up at 4 in the morning to YouTube playing and it's I get a worse night's sleep because I
00:56:23
woke up in the middle of the night with yeah because I was coming out of some sleep cycle or something so and uh and
00:56:29
we had this whole event and this this was that was the cool part I that was mean I take it back it was it was a
00:56:35
beautiful event it was production was great it sounded fantas they always do the sweet screens on the stage like
00:56:41
Samsung's so good a plus for effort are we allowed to say that Marquez is seeing something secret while he's out in
00:56:48
California I can say that I will not be on the rest of this episode because I
00:56:53
have to leave right now to go meet Marquez to shoot something top look like you guys are stuck here with me so
00:56:59
that's our little teaser that's also why there won't be trivia this week and why I said it was a Chaotic episode because
00:57:05
we didn't fit everything in on time and I need to run but there's still a little more of the show left will Tik Tok be
00:57:11
gone who knows yeah also Andrew not to make this episode even more chaotic but
00:57:17
earlier this episode we reported on Project Stargate the $500 billion effort
00:57:23
to uh open AI Larry Ellison launch some AI stuff um since we said that like 3
00:57:29
hours ago we saw headlines that Elon Musk was saying n that's not real they're not going to do that he's not involved in this but he says they have
00:57:36
not raised the money and it's not going to happen and him and Sam mman are duking it out well on Twitter it's funny
00:57:43
because he said they don't actually have the money and then Sam Alman says I genuinely respect your accomplishments
00:57:48
and I think you're the most inspiring entrepreneur of our time and that was it and then he went on to say wrong as you
00:57:54
surely know want to come visit the first site already underway this is great for the country I realize what is great for
00:58:01
the country isn't always optimal for your companies but in your new role I surely hope you'll put America first and
00:58:08
then um and then in a separate thing I saw SAA on the news and SAA got asked he
00:58:15
was like so Elon just said that this ain't real oh my goodness uh what's up with that and SAA in as in the most like
00:58:22
goonish way possible was like I'm good for my 80 bil ion and I was just like
00:58:30
I I just want to say by the time you dear listener are listening to this a lot of this will be a lot has changed
00:58:36
but this is as a recording on Wednesday janary been the case for the past week so we'll see what happens anyway if
00:58:41
you've made it this far in the podcast I salute you uh we're going to take it to a quick break Andrew needs to get to the airport for a very secret project he's
00:58:47
flying out for and we'll see you after the break and then you'll be stuck with me and um I will hopefully give you a
00:58:53
really great 20 or so minutes you will I can't wait to listen to it later okay see you in a sec
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we said had to go do some top secret stuff uh via airplane but I'm here
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that's pretty cool that's pretty cool have you ever seen me on this side and Ellis on this side actually I I think
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this might be a first one of the they have switched the chairs okay so what were you about to say uh I was about to
01:01:00
say we are coming back in this very good third segment of the show and we are going to talk about some of our favorite
01:01:06
apps um but before I get into the app that I really wanted to talk about just
01:01:11
wanted to say uh honorary mention app goes to Blue Sky thank you no particular reason how
01:01:19
many people just uh just I think everyone should be on that how many people said blue sky is never going to
01:01:27
happen I might have said that I think you said it I I don't know if it's happening yet it's happening they have
01:01:33
28 million users I just put a sick meme on there that's right uh so you know
01:01:38
there's funny stuff waiting for you on that platform yeah no reason just uh I
01:01:45
just think I think now is the time I don't know just anyway David uh would you like me to share my favorite app
01:01:51
that I'm using on my phone or would you like to go first um go for it I just want to say before I do this I have
01:01:57
gotten now five or six DMS that all read the same way they go Ellis I know where
01:02:03
this is I was so sure I saw you on the subway in New York City or I wasn't sure
01:02:08
I it might have been you it might have not been you and then you pulled out your purple 12 mini and I was like that
01:02:14
that could only be Ellis and I just want to say every time I get one of those DMS it warms my heart to know that my and
01:02:21
I'm going to say it here first I'm admitting it guys this phone barely works over the holiday break I was
01:02:27
getting lunch with Adam and he saw me pull out my phone and attempt to type a text message and I probably pressed my
01:02:34
phone seven times before one of the key presses registered and that's how every
01:02:39
day is for me actually um and uh and Adam was like oh my God I did not know
01:02:45
it was this bad um I assumed that it like Apple's usually very good at keeping their older devices alive and I
01:02:52
didn't know that that was that old I assumed it was still functioning it is still functioning all the components
01:02:57
work my theory my working theory is that it I have the base storage model I have
01:03:02
64 gigs I don't know how much RAM is in this thing but I'm sure it's not much and and again I'm basing this on
01:03:08
assumptions if you're an iOS engineer please tell me how wrong I am on Blue Sky um but I have a feeling a lot of
01:03:15
memory swapping happens in this thing like from the the storage to the memory to the storage to the memory and I think
01:03:22
over the years the ram is getting worse almost out of storage all the time
01:03:27
because iOS is just a bloat machine and I think what happens is the ram just fills up and that is what you're seeing
01:03:34
um because if I'm having digitizer issues like that and I lock the phone unlock the phone don't switch apps like
01:03:41
stay in that app the ram refreshes and it's back to like working perfectly yes
01:03:47
super annoying to have to lock and unlock my phone almost every time I want to use I'm glad you admitted that but I am so dedicated to this thing not ending
01:03:54
up in a landfill I don't need a new phone there is not a single feature on any new iPhone that I absolutely need
01:04:01
it's not about the features it's about having a working phone I respect Ellis's choices thank you anyway WR my favorite
01:04:09
app that I'm using on my phone right now is the NTS app uh NTS is an online radio
01:04:17
station um they have two stations nts1 and NTS 2 very fun um wait does NTS
01:04:25
stand for or something ntsc NTS stands for nuts to soup which was the name of a
01:04:33
previous blog run by uh one of the guys who founded NTS anyway NTS is really
01:04:39
cool they have two stations um one of which is usually more Hype music the other one is typically more chill music
01:04:44
it's a lot of dance music it's a lot of international music it's live DJs you get cool personalities they also have
01:04:49
these really great playlists on their website and typically uh they're called infinite mixtapes
01:04:56
and they have things like Memory Lane poolside slow Focus the tube Labyrinth
01:05:03
um I just think NTS is a super duper cool way to listen to music oh and then
01:05:09
another thing I do that I think is just like so awesome is they'll do these curated playlists um which I get every
01:05:16
streaming service does curated playlists but theirs are just so awesome like it'll be like uh like a spotlight of a
01:05:24
Cuban artist you've never heard of or it'll be like uh a deep dive into music
01:05:29
of Detroit in 1997 or like just like they're just so good about caring about
01:05:36
music and caring about culture and um so yeah go nts. live is the website the app
01:05:42
is pretty good uh if it works on my terrible phone it'll probably work on your phone that's right um yeah if you
01:05:49
like music I I gotta Jazz oh and right now listen to NTS one of my favorite DJs
01:05:54
ANS has a playlist up on NTS as we speak I'm probably going to go bump that after
01:06:00
this that's cool I wanted to show uh out the pixel fed app once again we talked
01:06:06
about it very lightly last week if you don't know what it is uh it is a alternative to Instagram that is
01:06:12
Federated over activity Pub if you don't know what that is what are you doing I feel like I've mentioned this 50 times
01:06:18
so you should go watch our activity Pub and at protocol episode we will link it in the show description however the
01:06:24
reason I want to shout out pixel fed right now it's because one instagram changed the aspect ratio of all of the
01:06:30
posts which I don't think that we've mentioned yet um something very very frustrating happened I'm opening
01:06:36
Instagram right now over last weekend where your your profile grid on your homepage oh no mine's still Square
01:06:42
Sometimes some people's are still square but they're moving it everyone's been being moved to like it's not 4x5 it's
01:06:47
something similar they introduce some sort of way to sort of crop in your images but it just makes it look worse
01:06:55
anyway it's just it's frustrating and it feels like meta is just going to continue to do whatever the heck they
01:07:00
want to try to make Instagram just a video app like they really just don't
01:07:05
seem to care about photography anymore so I understand that it is frustrating
01:07:10
to constantly move apps every single time uh the app starts getting just
01:07:16
destroyed because they're trying to make more money off of you y pixel fed Federated over activity Pub uh the whole
01:07:23
point is that it's decentralized something I wanted to call out about it is that the developer which yes the
01:07:30
developer the one guy that is developing it are you serious single guy that's developing it yesterday uh upgraded the
01:07:37
infrastructure and it was down for a little bit while he was doing this because he said they were getting an influx of users so now it is way faster
01:07:44
like when I first started using this the actual app last week it was ex extremely slow it was lagging like crazy it was
01:07:51
glitching now everything's going really well um again it's super basic but you know the Federated Social Web is
01:08:00
really important right now and I think everybody should be moving towards these platforms that give you more control of your content so if you want something
01:08:07
like Instagram uh but it's much simpler and will not change into a video
01:08:12
platform in the future get on Pixel fed uh my account is David ml pixel fed.
01:08:19
wait I have a question for follow me there cuz you've recently moved your entire website to ghost the open Proto
01:08:25
call Open Source protocol posting thing open source and now this pix pixel fed
01:08:31
pixeled if you were to publish a post on one would it show up on the other so pixel fed is only images okay so if you
01:08:38
were to post like an image on ghost on your website yes that would ideally pop
01:08:43
up on Pixel fit or vice versa I believe I would be able to follow my ghost account yeah um something that's cool is
01:08:51
the bridgy Fed people which we also talked about in our feder ated content
01:08:56
episode you can basically create a bridge between activity Pub and the at protocol in blue sky so that it creates
01:09:03
sort of like this uh ghost account that mirrors what you what you posted on
01:09:10
other platforms so on Pixel fed you can follow the bridy FED account and it will
01:09:17
create a blue sky account for your pixel fed account that you don't have to do anything on you can just post on Pixel
01:09:22
fed and those posts will show up on blue sky and the benefit of that is if you're on Blue Sky and you just want to follow
01:09:29
my photography you can follow my pixel fed account through Blue Sky which is very cool interesting um anyway I
01:09:37
just I think we're moving towards this world where we really need to start thinking about decentralized social
01:09:42
media so try out pixel fed it's really great right now A lot of people are joining it it's having a good time yeah
01:09:50
that's what I wanted to shout out nice good one mine this week is an app called rooms it is an iOS only I believe and I
01:09:58
remember when they launched it I was on the s24 ultra and I was very upset that I couldn't use it and now I'm on iPhone
01:10:06
and remembered that oh wait this app exists like a couple couple maybe two weeks ago so I downloaded it and it is
01:10:13
basically Tik Tok right for pixelized rooms so you can make like a pixel room
01:10:22
oh wow and this is sweet it's really dope it's really creative people have been getting very artistic on here
01:10:27
there's different like tags you can do so there's like featured trending you can do an art one that just shows like
01:10:33
dope things people make you can do games education experiments fantasy it's it's
01:10:39
insane uh I tried my hand at making one of them and as basic as it is I'm very proud of it and I made it like the
01:10:45
wallpaper on my phone just because it's like wow this is really really clever um definitely check it out out this might I
01:10:52
mean obviously I haven't tried it but I think I'm gonna go ahead and and and you know previously my favorite for you page
01:10:58
style feed belonged to bird buddy oh yes terrific terrific algorithmic feed but I
01:11:06
can see this taking the cake dude I'm telling you if ever you get the urge to just like swipe and not do anything with
01:11:11
your time this thing at least will inspire you and make you want to build things versus just like consuming for
01:11:18
the sake of consuming that's that's pretty cool man and people in here are so talented it is crazy the things that
01:11:25
they are building look actually beautiful like they're works of art oh and there's a web client yeah and you
01:11:30
can do it on a website too I just want to I want to say are you did I cut you off no okay so this is exactly what
01:11:36
being friends with Adam is like is is he goes he goes guys I just got a new phone
01:11:43
for the seventh time this year I've I've switched once again and then you're hanging out with him and then three
01:11:48
weeks later he's like dude I just discovered this really sick thing but it's only on the phone I'm not using Y
01:11:55
and then he'll be bummed about it for like 3 days and go like you know what nah I'm doing it and he'll do some this
01:12:02
is the other thing about Adam that's so crazy is this man is the master of the tradent that's true this guy will be
01:12:09
like will be like dude you already have an s25 ultra where did you get this and it'd be like oh yeah I just like went
01:12:15
under my bed and I found three chocolate chip cookies in a Nexus 8 I gave it to samung and they gave me
01:12:22
$117,000 and I went and I I bought it new phone it's just the Nexus 8 is
01:12:27
psychotic but it's just like this is bro I've known you now for like three or four years and like I this I feel like
01:12:34
I'm always watching you do this crazy acrobatic trade in stuff it's it's a lot
01:12:39
I I think I don't know we'll see I think I've settled down now because now I have like a shortcuts routine and so many
01:12:47
little things that are just like such a core part of my life ad why are you lying to us live on the podcast czy you
01:12:53
can say whatever you want true I do think you could totally start
01:12:58
an entire blog based on blogen Tik Tok account YouTube whatever yeah just like
01:13:05
like Adam's tradein corner and I think it would go off David's fediverse corner and Adam TR
01:13:12
Corner yeah oh my God this is what happens when Marquez and Andrew leave yeah we got to say we all have a corner
01:13:19
now when the cats are away the dogs come out no that's not
01:13:25
okay that's what it is now baby the dogs are out all right well it's been a week uh
01:13:32
lots of stuff happening on the internet you already know but there's things ongoing right now there's things many
01:13:37
things are ongoing it's hard for us to be a definitive podcast especially when it takes us two days to edit this thing so if you're in the Northeast United
01:13:44
States stay warm it's 8° fenhe it's cold um that's been it thanks so much for
01:13:50
watching thanks so much for listening we hope you catch us next week or we hope to catch you next week on the waveform
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01:14:03
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this is so crazy David what are we going to talk about I know what to talk about what I
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