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glad he still did good evening even though it was the obvious meme but yeah do you guys know a lot about shoes cuz I
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don't and people are making a big deal of the fact that he was wearing some black like shoes of some kind they said
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Air Force ones are those popular shoes does Marquez wear those no uh are that [Music]
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in what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your host I'm
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Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David just kidding that was me twice Marquez is gone he is out but a lot of people have said you sound like him so you thought yeah I don't think I sound like him at all if there's an audio listener out
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there that got fooled check your hearing I honestly do not think I S like I don't think so
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really um Marquez isn't here because he is in California for the wfdf beach World ultimate tournament he
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is playing for Team USA yeah it's a lot of letter ultimate the least confusing sport Team USA Team USA he is playing on the mixed team but he is representing
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USA which is pretty sick wow couple other uh players over there STI Jersy and Shawn M love them East Coasters
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where is excited to see all of them playing I forget somewhere in California nice just you know little California
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just right down there somewhere in California yeah on the beach it's on the beach it's the beach
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worlds cool you know that spot right the what spot the local California you know
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where that is the beach there's a lot of Coastline Andrew uh yeah yeah but anyways Marquez isn't
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with us but we do have a sound bite of him so he can still stick with us in spirit Adam can you play that whoops yep
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perfect exactly that will be all use that whenever anything um is a problem exact just have Marquez come back is it in Huntington Beach that sounds crap did you just doc our
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boss whoops anyway uh he's missing a kind of crazy week we had an Apple event it was the scary fast 30 minute Apple event
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very quick uh new M3 chips announced this week we also got some stuff with meta's new subscription model for Facebook and Instagram in Europe and also the US is issuing an executive
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order around artificial intelligence it's kind of wild it's kind of wild they're finally doing something about it
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yeah we'll we'll get into that all later but before that David Adam Ellis I have a question for you guys mhm even though
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this episode's after Halloween I have a spooky question for you I know all right
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yes we've seen ja chat GPT in like a million different products this year but have you heard of well what is a product
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that you think this is a product we've covered in the past before would be the most terrifying to add chat GPT and just
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like generative AI oh God are you asking what product have we covered that would be the most terrifying or just what
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would be the most terrifying application well I'm saying what would you what is a product it would be terrifying to be in
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and the hint I'm giving you is we have covered this product before excluding the hint my answer is I know it's
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drywall just drywall okay if all of your walls could talk to you at any moment I
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would just I would feel like I'm going insane fair I missed the drywall video we did but um all right Astro that was
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going to be my answer I want it to be Astro actually a little terrifying imagine Astro but with like real
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capabilities that sounds great the coffin and also scary the coffin um I have a video I have a video here that you guys can click it's um Boston Dynamics oh no and this video I want you
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guys to like you can open it quickly and shall we commence our journey the charging stations
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stop is our first point of Interest oh no welcome to to Boston Dynamics and I will be your guide for to
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so uh you guys know spot the four-legged Boston Dynamics robot effectively they added a natural language model to it and um yep y it's going to be a bigger problem
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when they add it to Atlas um but it talks at you but it has no eyes so it's just flap is moving well cuz it's the boss that's actually um there's a module that you can put on top that kind of
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almost looks like a Snak head which is used to like open door handles and stuff um so essentially they they took that
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and like kind of I don't know if it's in the spirit of Halloween but they put like googly eyes and like a little Butler hat and a mustache on it um and
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they added chat GPT and a couple other AI functions to let it use the camera and oh no I don't know if it's
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necessarily controlling where it moves but it's able to use the camera and voice input to talk back to you there's
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a couple couple options there examples they show in there they ask it to sing a highq or to ex say AQ based on like
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where it is they ask it a couple things about um inside of the factory and they they also give it a bunch of different
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like characters like one's like a Shakespearean actor and it talks in like poetry almost and um some of it's it's
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cute the way they show it terrifying thinking about the way it could be used I guess um yeah Boston Dynamics is really cool we've met them there's some super nice people but just seeing this
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add to it is kind of horrifying can it control its movements do we know I do not necessarily know about that I want to say yes because there was one part
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where he specifically says like it is not having thoughts but then directly after that they talk about how they asked like the teenage ver like they gave it like a
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teenage uh personality and asked to show where it came from and it went to like spot model one or version one like to show them where it's like parents were
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it like walked over and showed them that or that's what they said they didn't show it but like that was where I was
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like this feels like it's already thinking far too much for what it is yeah typically like these videos I feel like they're very choreographed and like that's why I'm always like oh it's funny
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but it's not really scary because they like probably rehearsed this for like two but if it's like making it up on the
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why as it goes with Chachi BT that's a little bit that was a story they told a lot of the stuff they showed were like
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basically the exact same examples over and over again and it just reacting to things like it talks about going to this
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QR code calibration s like place but based on the character it gave it it called the QR code something different
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um dang which was like cool to see how chat gbt figured it out but yeah then when you see a robot walking around M
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moving we talk about anthropomorphizing uh these natural language processing models and this is literally
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anthropomorphized so yeah it again it would be scarier in the atlas robot though the like with giant body and arms
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and legs and these are like arguably the most advanced robotics we're kind of seeing around so like when you said astrobot that would be funny yes when
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you say spot and Atlas I'm a little more wor okay well but yeah hopefully they don't kill people anyway um whoops whoops uh let's move on to our first
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topic uh so if you guys have I don't know if you guys have been privy to this but the
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European like the EU has been under um putting a lot of scrutiny on meta recently and they've been having a lot of issues where they potentially can't use their ad targeting in Europe like at
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all okay so a way that they're trying to get around this and this is specifically uh generally around like kids and the
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way that like ads are targeted at kids they decided that they are just going to offer a paid ad free model in Europe
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that costs 9.99 a month yeah I think it's like 13 if you have to pay the Apple and Android tax if you pay so if you pay through desktop then it's like € 10 and 13 if you pay on your phone but
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every anyone uh younger than 18 18 and younger will just get it for free yeah so instead of just um instead of having
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to like deal with all the potential ramifications of going around specific types of laws they're just going to like
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not do not serve ads to any kids yeah so but only in Europe only in Europe and only
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in parts of Europe cuz you said the UK is not included because post brexit um it's definitely so basically their way of getting around advertising is like we're going to offer the paid
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subscription model which is adree which by the way I think this is a little expensive but any social media where you
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have to pay you should get adree like right off the bat I can't believe Twitter is still not ad three free with
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um but so then you get ads if you don't pay free and then you basically are just
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if you're under 18 you're in the like premium version or whatever that's adree and that's their way of not serving ads
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yeah to 18 because then they're not targeting kids yeah yeah not targeting kids who actually put their real
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birthday down for right which their which they have to legally assume that everyone actually does cuz we all did
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yeah if I looked at my Facebook account i' probably think so I'm like 10 years older than I actually every kid does that I'm do you
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know if there's also different if you're on Facebook or Instagram if you're under 18 does it limit other things I don't
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think it currently does okay um I just wanted to share a little anecdote about that because when I started college in
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you know insert year I started college it was one of the first few years that Tinder was around and Tinder V1 would
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not let you input your own age it would take the age from your Facebook profile so me and everyone I knew Tinder profiles all said we were like 54 because we all lied about the and slowly
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but surely like all of us corrected our Facebook ages um interesting because of Tinder so I actually feel like maybe they're maybe they're at least for my exact you know age group maybe there are
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a little more even I don't know if you guys ever did this but um way back in the day when Neopets was in its heyday
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at the time you had to get a parent to like sign off on the fact that you could use it if you were under a certain age and because I was such a darn goody two shoes instead of just lying about my age
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on Neopets I literally printed out a document that I had my mom sign that says like I certified that David can play Neopets and we mailed it to the Neopets headquarters like in the mail
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like yeah the actual because I thought that's what I was like I couldn't lie on the internet you can't lie on the
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internet right it's the most adorable thing I think I've ever heard in my life on the internet I unfortunately never
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lied on the internet except for like when they make it really easy like on Steam if you go to a certain game it's
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like verify your age you put any date in you hit okay and then it just shows you the page how do those people not
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understand how many times have you just like you scroll really far down and then it's like there's no one who's 95 that's
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playing Resident Evil right now it's like 1870 yeah I'm the oldest person on the
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planet do you think what are the chances now that people are going to do the opposite they're like add free under 18
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am I going to change my thing to make it seem like I'm 14 I didn't even think that that's what I was asking like I
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wouldn't be surprised if under 18 accounts or something like that were limiting DMS or like private profiles
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only I thought I remembered something a while ago something similar to that um yeah I can't imagine paying $10 a month
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for Instagram and Facebook yeah there was also something in here that said if you pay it will be
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part of all of the accounts within your account Center um but that's only till March 2024 and then it'll be an extra
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or8 per account I don't think that matters really at all because no matter how many accounts you have you're
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usually only browsing under one account with like ads and stuff like that so you might have different accounts like I
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used to have one for Mac but I wasn't like browsing on Mac's account that's just where I posted separate things um yeah it seems like a weird way to skirt
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around some rules and or comply yeah I'm very interested in seeing what they actually limit if they limit anything if you say that you're younger cuz maybe I'm about to be 16 you know well how
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long before they have this in place and you're also seeing ads so you're paying for it and seeing ads that sounds like
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it won't happen because of getting around this rule I mean well for 18 year for people under 18 and in the EU but you can pay like if you're over 18 you
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can pay to have no ads and that's the $10 a month but or € 10 a month but like for example Twitter is thinking about doing multiple different types of tiers where you get like half the ads and then
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one of them is no ads but it's way more expensive yeah right now is currently approximately half the ads right yeah
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wild but yeah I guess it is similar to like what Adam said where like Netflix Hulu they have cheaper options with that
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are ad supported but those are things where you have to pay no matter what there is no free version so yeah I don't
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know I don't know I think it's interesting that a lot of software is starting to go paid or at Le offer a
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model because for the longest time pretty much all software was like especially social media was free to use
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but you pay with your data and it's one of those things where you don't realize you're paying with your data yeah and now that the governments are kind of
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becoming privy to all the all the data that's being used and being collected about different people and especially
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about miners everyone's trying these different models but I just can't imagine all of the services that we use
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on a on a weekly basis paying $10 a month for every single one like that's just not something everyone's going to
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do I personally can't fully expect that these companies aren't still full-blown collecting data on the people who are
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paying anyways and just serving you ads like sure I'm not getting the REI ad straight on Instagram but like there's million other places you can get sold ads that I'm sure they can have that
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data for right right like the Facebook pixel that tracks you around the internet anyway yeah yeah if you use Facebook or Instagram they're they're
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tracking like all the other websites that you go to um so you know just because they don't show you it on Facebook and Instagram doesn't mean they're not still collecting and selling the data and I get it the ads they serve
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me are fantastic and I Fall to them way more than I anything on Instagram before oh yeah well like I mean I've gotten an
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ad and been like oh that Patagonia jacket I really like is discounted and you go to like back country or whatever and I'm like this is a good price dang yeah know
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it gets me all the time I have never actually purchased anything from Instagram but I will say that it's
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really annoying if you like look at one thing on the internet and then all of your ads on like Instagram and everything or that because you think
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about buying it and you're like ah no and then everything that you see for the next month is like you know you want it
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you know you want to buy it yeah no it's good I'm starting to get all the baby stuff now and it's uh all my ads are
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just like baby strollers and oh wow wagons and clothes and everything you got to get a smart one a smart baby
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stroller stroller maybe SP spot the dog push a stroller smart stroller sounds terrifying yeah I'm sure they have podometer strollers and stuff okay um let's move on to this next
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story about this new honor phone that has eye tracking yeah it seems more than tracking it looks like it says opening apps with your eyes interesting that's not what you've
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always wanted in a phone um you didn't see the iPhone 15 and thought this would be perfect I wonder if they looked at how the Vision Pro is being controlled
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and they were like people are going to get used to like opening things with their eyes and and like selecting UI
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things with their eyes so we should just get on the same train possibly this is um so it's the honor 6 it was announced
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and in the keynote there was a very brief moment where it essentially shows somebody holding up a phone there's kind
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of a little I don't know what honor calls it live activity I think which is similar to like dynamic Island if you're
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not familiar with that so there's this little area at the top of exactly the same as the dnamic island the person
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looks at it that expands similar to Dynamic Island and then they continue to look at it and then it kind of pulls up
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a map of the whole so it looks like they're looking at like an Uber app or something like that and then they sell the data of all the things that you're
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looking at because they know if you're looking at an ad and then they can serve it to you more often yeah for sure yeah
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is that the theme of this whole episode sad how they're tracking you I don't know about this doesn't necessarily excite me how they're showing it like do I want to pull up a
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different page inside of a Uber app I could see this as like a quick glance with something like live activity or
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dynamic Island where if I get a quick text message I can just stare at it for a second it'll show the whole text
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message and then go away yeah yeah that's not terrible it's not awful but but I still hate things tracking my
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redness I hate things tracking things outside of my phone like not just because they're tracking but they
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generally are terrible remember sole yeah yeah it never worked and then the LG ID the VIN ID with the like being a magician on top of the phone yes yeah
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whoops whoops s soy was my like so bad every time I would press the Escape key on my keyboard which is where my wireless charger was with my thing it would be like oh it's coming to pick me up and then like it would light your
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phone it would light the phone up and then I would look at it and the face ID would unlock my phone exactly so that was that was just
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the worst I I'm not big on like exterior things being looked at and monitored by
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my phone cuz it just feels like there's so many ways that can falsely trigger it yeah definitely that happens all the
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time um yeah well we'll have to wait and see if we can actually get this device in because I want to see how it works
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and how good it is um especially since the Vision Pro eye tracking is so good I think everyone else is going to try to
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compete with that it kind of looks like it just has a regular front in camera though which is interesting yeah and that can somehow
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track what direction you're looking at I guess I mean wasn't there a Samsung phone years ago where it essentially was
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watching your eyes just to not like if you were reading something for a long time it would turn the display off
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basically yeah it wouldn't go to sleep I believe it was the Galaxy 4 I could s the S I remember something like it was like I scrolling scroll yeah it was one
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of those you like scroll down a web page just by looking at it yeah it was pretty cool I think it was something like that yeah it obviously worked so well that
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it's still in all the phones today so it probably is if you dig into Galaxy true
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remember yeah Samsung has a lot of Samsung has a lot of features that nobody ever uses or even realizes as a
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feature so yeah um maybe we should take an little quick ad break and then we'll come right back to all the Apple event
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news of which there is a lot and we got a lot to talk about there so cue the music but
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first trivia wait you want you want trivia before the music yeah that's weird oh
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sorry play the music and then we'll do the trivia it's the trivia music that's right that's right that's right trivia
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dude okay first question what is the name of the operating system that runs on honor
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phones that we were just talking about I used to know this well do you know it now no well that we were just talking
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talk oh the honor Oh I thought you meant we were just talking about the operating system oh no no we were not nope all
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week we just had the scary fast Apple event first Apple event to happen during the night time I believe happened at
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8:00 P.M uh eastern time which is pretty weird Tim could came out and he did say
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good evening good evening he did say good evening however no Dracula costume he didn't modulate his voice he wasn't like good evening he just said good
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evening which is how he does every good morning I'm sad I'm sad and happy I'm I'm glad he still did good evening even though it was the obvious meme but yeah do you guys know a lot about shoes cuz I
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don't and people are making a big deal of the fact that he was wearing some black like shoes of some kind they said
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Air Force ones are those popular shoes Alice does Marquez wear those no uh is that are yeah it's a reference to a video
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that came out four years ago on a channel Channel that's hilarious called RDC world one and in the video they talk
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about how people who wear black Air Force ones are crazy in such a way that if you ever fight them they'll just
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Massacre you because they have nothing to lose I believe that like the the core joke of the video is that if you're
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wearing those shoes it just means you're psychotic psychotic and violent Tim Cook
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is probably one of those guys that would be really friendly to me and then I would accidentally like spill some salt
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on him at a family dinner and then he would destroy me anyway uh any notes on the on the intro intro yeah it's funny
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that I saw all these things that were like apple didn't have to go this hard with like the dark Apple Park but it was
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like I mean it's cool that it was in the at night but it's just the dark Apple Park like I guess we've driven around
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there before like when it's dark and it looks really cool but like everyone made it seem like it was this set that's like
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look it's all spooky it's like it's at night it's just cool play like spooky music yeah for sure no I think they they
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they went into it well Apple's been pretty good at like having a slight meme on top of some things and like breaking
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the the seriousness of all of it and they do it really well so like that initial shot where he's like between the
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stairs and like the nice lighting and everything it was it was really awesome unlike that one plus ad where he like
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walks into the other room and then he's in like the Arctic for 5 seconds and then he turns around and walks back into
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the the transition is terribly timed there's no explation yeah yeah it definitely makes more sense
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um I am also sad he wasn't in costume but good evening we'll sound like that for the rest of Eternity probably um so that was cool the it's still 8:00 p.m.
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East Coast time felt really strange yeah we had to send Brandon out there because Marquez isn't here he went to the event
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to shoot some footage of it but like when we first saw that event invite at 5:00 p.m. PDT we're like this makes no
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sense I do think it's kind of funny how even though they're a West Coast company they sort of like Orient everything for
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New York because like 5:00 p.m. Is Not Dark Yet there yeah but at the same time they couldn't do 11:00 p.m. here you
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know I guess that is what they're trying to make sure is that it's a reasonable time both sides cuz usually when we're out there it's 1 it's like 10:00 a.m.
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out there but 1 p.m. over year so like it's still not a terrible time yeah um but yeah that's that's it this this whole event you're going to have to do you're going to do a lot here because generally when Marquez is here you both
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are using Apple silicon I'm still using the only Mac I use is my work computer and it's Intel based so I am like the as
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much as I think all the new Apple silicon is great and some of the easiest I think the MacBook Air is one of the easiest laptops to recommend to people
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yeah I don't use any Apple silicon okay so I'll be here I'll be semi comedic relief maybe in some parts and I'll ask a bunch of questions just on the outside of things but like this is out of my
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wheelhouse for sure okay for sure yeah so we got M3 M3 Pro and M3 Max um it's silicon based on the a15 or a17 Pro processor in the um iPhone 15 Pro and
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it's the first three 3 nanometer chipset for desktop um for Apple silicon and I think in general I think it's the first ever 3 nomer chipset for a desktop computer okay I know there was I very
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specifically remember reading something I said first 3 nanometer for desktop so that makes me assume something else well
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cell phone it's on the it's on the um iPhone 15 Pro right so yeah M3 8 core CPU 10 core GPU up to 24 gigs of RAM we got M3 Pro which is 11 or 12 core CPU 14
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or 18 core GPU up to 36 gigs of RAM and then M3 Max 14 or 16 core CPU 30 or 40 core GPU and up to 128 GB of RAM hell of a leap between those two that's yeah
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it's a lot um throughout the entire keynote they were comparing it mostly to the M1 M and I noticed this and the my
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first thought process was like oh that just makes the performance gain seen a lot better right but at the same time if
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you think about it they released M2 in January of this year or the M2 MacBook Pros in January of this year so it's
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only been 10 months since M2 now I've heard that all of the M2 devices have been selling really badly and the reason is because M1 was so good exactly and
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was such a big leap over anything Intel related that nobody wanted to buy an M2 computer I think that's so important is like the jump from Intel to to Sil the
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Apple silicon was so big that so many people upgraded whether they needed the upgrade or not that then so many people
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have new computers and the jump from M1 to M2 not that big not that big and still I mean there's a there's a more
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noticeable bump from M2 from M1 to M3 obviously um but at the same time it's it's like I I spent $5,000 on a 4 tbte M1 Max 16-in MacBook Pro and I plan to
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have that basically until it dies which is probably going to be 5 to six years even longer yeah you should have these
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computers for a while and I guess it does make sense where you're saying like one to three is a bigger jump than two
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so maybe they can convince someone on an M1 to jump to it but like yeah it still feels like your m1's probably kicking
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ass compared to whatever you had before that and even a jump M3 in 2 years is like that's a lot of money to be
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spending yeah so they had some very nice badly labeled graphs as usual of course
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um but the kind of Crux of this whole update is that they're able to do faster performance at the same power level so they kept showing these graphs that would like they would push the power
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further than the previous one and it was way higher but at the same amount of power draw it was like you know 30% 15%
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faster in certain C certain areas so efficiency cores are 30% faster and this is rated by them um we're going to have
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to get these laptops in and actually test it against M2 but Apple rates the uh M3 as 30% faster than M2 for efficiency cores and 50% faster than M1
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the performance cores are rated at 15% faster than M2 and 30% faster than M1 they added Hardware based Ray tracing and mesh shading there was a lot of
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conversation before this event about how this was going to be like very graphics and gaming focused and they've really
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been pushing into the gaming stuff recently like three events in a row have been kind of gaming oriented right like
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WWDC they released the um gaming porting toolkit for metal where all of a sudden
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all of these developers who are just making things for Windows computers can now like really easily Port their games
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to Mac which is really awesome I don't know how much the industry has has actually started doing that um I know Al
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Alex is working on something around that yeah he's been testing something so I'm very curious to talk to him about that and see if games start moving over I
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only really play Dota 2 which has always been Mac native which is nice and it already plays at 120 FPS on the M1 Max
00:29:12
MacBook Pro so you know um but they're making a big deal of something they're calling Dynamic caching yes and I did a
00:29:21
lot of research into this last night okay it is sort of a black box that they don't really they haven't really talked about that much yeah um they say that it
00:29:32
is the largest Leap Forward in graphics architecture for Apple silicon which if you think about it just means that it's
00:29:38
a bigger leap than M1 was to M2 yeah can I also real quick and I I might ask this
00:29:45
and I'm completely wrong in Mis misremembering but the dynamic caching was essentially that it's calculating
00:29:51
the exact amount of memory you need for a specific program and only using that amount while making that the rest of it
00:29:58
s similar yeah so okay I did a B I did a bunch of research on this last time I just wanted to start somewhere and yeah
00:30:05
yeah yeah yeah I would I want to try to talk to Apple about this because it seems like no one's gotten a clear
00:30:11
answer um but from what I think that I know about how gpus work right now is like when you have a GPU and a application starts that application will need various different types of memory
00:30:23
to be running during that session right so it allocates specific amounts of memory to different me to different data types to be able to like oh I need to load in a bunch of shaders for this game
00:30:36
I need to load in a bunch of this for this game and it stores all these things in memory because it doesn't want to go to system memory because that takes a
00:30:42
lot longer to fetch yeah right so theoretically what this Dynamic caching thing is is it's constantly monitoring
00:30:50
how much memory each data type needs so that it can use like exactly the amount that it needs which frees up that memory to be used for the rest of the machine so I don't think
00:31:03
that this is going to be as useful for like the 20 128 gab of ram model of this cuz you already have a ton of memory yeah um but for like you know the 8 gig
00:31:13
model yeah I can't believe there's an a gig model yeah we we'll we'll address that soon um but for the the models that
00:31:20
have less actual like shared memory it could be more useful yeah for sure um and they say that should significantly increase the performance in like Graphics intensive applications and
00:31:32
games okay very very curious if that is actually the case I mean and that's also good because generally the things that
00:31:38
are pinging memory the hardest are graphic intense things and applications yeah so I'm good and a lot of people are
00:31:45
using Apple products for like very like rendering or or design and stuff like that like graphic intensive programs so the reason I want to take all of this with the grain of salt is because I also
00:31:57
found something from last year where someone was saying that the M1 and M2 based machines basically had an architecture problem that was making the amount of memory that they could like
00:32:09
store in memory and not and before they had to go to system memory not as high as they could be or something or it was being really inefficient with that okay and they were saying that it was like an architecture issue um and we can throw
00:32:21
up the we can put the tweet it was like a tweet storm that we can put in the the everyone loves a good tweet stormy yeah
00:32:27
and so you know I would like to talk to Apple about this they're probably going to give me some run around or nameless
00:32:33
graph yeah nameless graph they'll just repeat my question and then say they're committed to Performance or whatever but
00:32:39
um I think in the next week or two you're probably going to see people actually digging into what this actually
00:32:44
means and how many changes that it act how much it actually changes um the way their machine performs it would be
00:32:50
really nice if it was significant um ESP all things yeah especially since they're
00:32:56
leaning harder into to gaming and that kind of stuff for sure so that would be really great um the SDR uh on each of
00:33:03
the displays now goes to 600 nits instead of 500 okay so previously these devices obviously could hit Peak
00:33:11
brightness of a lot higher but for standard standard dynamic range content it was getting to 500 now it pushes to
00:33:17
600 so brighter good um battery life is theoretically improved across the board by about an hour which is just process node shrinking from um four nanometer to
00:33:28
three or was it five I think four I'm not sure either four or five to three anyway to three so an hour of better
00:33:36
battery life pretty much across the board now weirdly this is another thing that a lot of people are talking about
00:33:42
they reduced the memory bandwidth on most of the machines which is confusing and weird I was going to say if you have to use the term most of the machines it feels super Apple but also is like
00:33:55
insanely confusing and I don't know why this keeps happening yeah so they they reduced the memory bandwidth on the M on M3 Pro from 200 GB to 150 GB per second
00:34:09
okay which is strange and then on the there are two models of the M3 Max with different different amounts of um different speeds okay one of them
00:34:21
goes down to 300 gab gigabytes per second from 400 and one of them stays at 400 G per second okay so you're saying
00:34:28
the M2 the M2 Max always was 4 the M2 Pro always had 200 and the M2 Max always had 400 and now we have multiple versions of both for M3 uh for M3 Pro we only have 150 and oh oh oh but
00:34:43
for the max we have 300 and 400 okay yeah F to me that says binning like it mean it to me that says that they weren't able to get certain silicon to hit those speeds so they
00:34:57
decided to just sell them at a lower price this was wasn't there um what was it there was uh like storage
00:35:04
speed difference on a either a Macbook or a oh yeah it was a few years ago it was the 13-inch MacBook Pro that if you got the if you got the 128 GB model it
00:35:17
was half as fast as the 256 and the reason is because they used 128 GB dims and for the 256 model they just used two dims which could be read and written in parallel and that's why they were yeah
00:35:30
it's one of those things where I get there's like hardware issues and all of that but it's just super confusing when
00:35:35
it doesn't get labeled very well and you're buying ultimately the same thing which feels like a and a small upgrade
00:35:41
but really that upgrade is far different than what you think and you're actually gaining or losing Performance Based on
00:35:47
something you don't expect to gain or lose performance it's not very transparent exactly it's anything
00:35:53
nothing about the internals of any of Apple's devices feels transparent lot of weird stuff this year when you go to
00:35:59
configure your MacBook where like if you configure certain models you can't have the 96 gigs of RAM but you can't have
00:36:05
the 128 gigs of RAM and I think it's just in the way that they um that they group memory together okay but it's
00:36:11
there's still like a lot of different models of this um and it kind of feels like they're trying to push people towards the more expensive options
00:36:18
because again like the M3 Pro maxes out at 36 GB of memory whereas the three max
00:36:27
maxes out at 128 right like that's a huge difference so it's not just 2x it's like 4X it's that lad short that we talked about the other very quickly like
00:36:38
oh man but this is only x amount more expensive but look at how much more I'm getting out of it and then you step up
00:36:43
to that and you're like oh but then I need to add this and that's only a couple hundred more dollars and then you've got a $5,000 laptop yeah I think
00:36:51
this year uh if you completely max out the machine it's like $7,200 16in mac 16 Mac Pro 8 terab 8
00:36:59
terab of storage 128 GB of shared memory 40 GB of that's more GPU yeah it's more expensive because it's because they have more memory now they've got up to 128 gabes of memory now as opposed to
00:37:12
96 yeah but Ellis don't worry because now if we're going to talk about the MacBook Pros the 14inch now does start at $15.99 which is cheaper than last year yeah but that's a
00:37:24
useless computer ever at that point you know what's crazy is like it seems like $200 is the this the tier the step right the ladder per step so if you go
00:37:38
$200 under that $1600 MacBook Pro you know what you get the $1,400 exact same spec MacBook Air without any of the the ports or anything
00:37:52
they even put that one exactly $200 below it's not even the same computer they know what they're doing they know
00:37:58
what they're doing but to to explain why it's cheaper is just cuz this year they are making a Bas M3 chip MacBook Pro
00:38:05
which there was no M2 Base modelbook Pro yeah they uh who wants that yeah well for the well okay look for the last two years they had the 13-inch MacBook Pro with touch bar and who wanted that
00:38:18
exactly exactly yeah Adam no put your hand down I will die on this hill the touch bar was amazing they messed up when they replaced the function row with it if they had a function row on the
00:38:29
keyboard and a touch bar it would have been sick I agree the touch bar was awesome the biggest problem with the touch bar was that it would crash all
00:38:35
the time and it had your function keys on it yeah that's what I mean if they didn't put the function keys there who
00:38:41
cares if it crashes I agree I agree that would have been fine that would been fine and the touch bar was not a bad idea it was kind of a good idea but yeah
00:38:48
they kind of messed up with putting the function I'm saying it'll be back in 5 years just like all the ports and every
00:38:53
and the SD card slot like it'll be the upgraded MacBook Pro in a few years so they got rid of the 13in and instead
00:39:01
they are now offering the same almost the same chassis it's not actually the same chassis of the 14in uh starting at
00:39:08
$15.99 with the base M3 chip but they did take away a thunderbolt 3 Port so now you only have two Thunderbolt 3 ports instead of three but that that's what like what I'm getting at is
00:39:20
physically for $200 less you can get the exact same spec MacBook Air that will almost definitely perform exactly the same right well that's M2 though oh M's
00:39:32
not out yet yeah which is kind of something we talked about I feel like last week which is just like the timing
00:39:39
of all of these things being released is very strange because we're not getting air we'll probably get them in like May
00:39:44
or June didn't the air come out before the pros for M2 I thought the air came out let me look this up yeah I think the M2 MacBook Air came
00:39:54
out in July and I also just want to note that we didn't even get wait wait wait hold hold that thought cuz we didn't
00:40:01
even get an M3 Mac Mini whoops why do you got to [Music] put that's the best that's the
00:40:14
best yeah so the the M2 MacBook Air launched in July 2022 and the M2 Pros launched in January 2023 this time they just launched the
00:40:28
pros without the air and we don't even have an M3 Mac Mini which also seems really weird yeah I have no idea what's going on with some of this stuff I also this is a question um we'll have later
00:40:39
at the end of this but I'm very interested to think if we think more things will be released by the end of the year um I don't think so that but
00:40:45
that's a good point like there was no Mac Mini or Mac the Mac Mini and Mac Studio came out at the same time last year right um I don't think so I think
00:40:53
the Mac Oh you mean for M2 yeah so confusing the Mac Mini was first for M1 and the Mac Studio came out with the
00:41:00
MacBook Pros I think for M1 and I thought when the Mac Studio came out there was also like I don't know M mini
00:41:07
was January 2023 the Mac Mini was at that time when was when was the studio that was with the MacBook Pros yeah M2 Mac Mini what about the studio did it come out around the same time as the M2
00:41:18
iMac I'm kidding by the way there wasn't no M2 oh right nobody even flinched at that I'm so confused right now Apple let's reeler back in yeah I think apple
00:41:29
is also a little bit confused yeah M3 MacBook Pro where do we get to that's okay yeah we'll reel it
00:41:36
back here yeah yeah um anyway yeah so only two Thunderbolt three ports instead of three okay and it can only still can only run One external display um which
00:41:48
is sad yeah that is sad up to 6K 60 HZ but you're going to have to get the pro if you want to run two displays and the
00:41:54
max if you want to run four okay yeah yeah now obviously we also have the space black chassis yes that I need to
00:42:02
see in person because personally people are taking photos of it they had like a little event that they like let
00:42:08
YouTubers go to and stuff and the photos that I saw made it not look nearly as black as I think that it could have been leave it to Apple to have like a color
00:42:19
that's not quite the color you expected and then presumably 12 different variations of that cover color later
00:42:26
down the line there's also no black chassis available in the base it's only Pro and the max I think they're doing this because they want people to go around and say I have the new expensive
00:42:38
thing yeah they either usually either do that in terms of shape or in color yeah
00:42:43
I think Alex was saying the other day wasn't one of the original or one of the older MacBooks there was a white and
00:42:49
black version was the higher version yeah but that black option was really black it was sick it looked great don't
00:42:56
yeah I'm I'm excited to actually get this in and see how it looks one thing with the New Black chassis that we
00:43:01
noticed there is a new mag safe cable but right they actually made the USBC Port of it black to match it the rest
00:43:08
every other one in the in the past was they matched the mag safe part but the other end of the USBC was white and it
00:43:15
looked terrible I think enough people complained that they finally well the MacBook Air Mag safe was like Starlight
00:43:21
and midnight and those all had matching ones except for the white on the end now the MacBook Pro black chest
00:43:26
has a black mag safe with black USBC port on it nice beautiful best upgrade yeah Marquez isn't here today he probably would say something like yeah
00:43:38
that's sick he's pumped about the Black version is what he would say in this point right
00:43:45
now obviously so yeah I think that's about it they're available for preorder um now and we're definitely going to get testing them and have the reviews out pretty soon but uh until then do you
00:43:57
know did Marquez ever switch to the M2 MacBook Pro I'm using an M2 he's using the M1 I think he's using an M1 for his personal computer he didn't upgrade and then he but he's using the M2 Ultra Max
00:44:10
studio for his for his work computer so he might actually upgrade which I just think is an interesting thing from last
00:44:16
year where like these upgrades like we mentioned before they're nice but they're almost not worth it if you have the one before so I could see him find going to M3 for this one to get that
00:44:28
bump but the fact that Marquez stays on a year older model and doesn't upgrade to the best thing possible means not a
00:44:36
lot of SP so like a lot of these companies have the technology already planned ahead of time by like four to
00:44:42
five years but they just trickle it out because how else are they making money and normally you know if you take like
00:44:49
Intel for example usually that their performance gains are like it's like 5% a year 7% a year better better better better and that way people always have reasons to like you know they're itching
00:45:01
to like get the latest thing but then the jump from Intel to M1 was just so much that everyone nobody is seeing any
00:45:08
performance issues even with their M1 machines so it's like if you don't actually have a reason to upgrade then
00:45:13
like why would you spend another five grand on a computer I I feel like it's it reminds me of when Nvidia made the
00:45:20
jump from the 20 series to the 30 series card where the 30 series was like an crazy crazy jump and so many people upgraded and then the 40 series came out and everyone was like nobody cared about
00:45:31
not nobody cared about the 40 series but it clearly did not make the headlines people weren't rushing to try and buy
00:45:39
one immediately so like you every time you make a big jump the year after is generally going to be slower yeah
00:45:45
totally so maybe that's what's up with this weird timing stuff for when they releasing these they definitely were
00:45:51
comparing everything M3 related directly to M1 trying to get people to be like it's 30% better it is significant um but
00:45:59
it can be as significant as it wants but if you were not pro having problems with your M1 in the first place then the
00:46:06
numbers are kind of arbitrary I'm sure very few people are having problems with their M1 yeah exactly so anyway that was
00:46:12
that event we'll get a review in pretty soon we'll talk about M3 iMac real quick
00:46:17
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00:48:07
about from the Apple event two more things um M3 iMac did come out there is no iMac Pro unfortunately um but basically I mean it's an iMac with an M3
00:48:19
chip and let's so sick um now you can have an M3 on your kitchen counter [Music] nice yeah 8 core CPU up to 10 core GPU up to 24 gabes of ram up to 2 terab of
00:48:34
storage productivity apps like Safari or Excel should run up to 30% faster Photoshop should process photos like Ex two times faster yeah I know Excel should be weird metric yeah um up to 12
00:48:47
video streams at 4K resolution they did add Wi-Fi 6C and Bluetooth 5.3 I'll get that is a nice upgrade nice starts at at $12.99 no iMac Pro and the biggest
00:49:00
announcement still lightning accessories and roll the clip and play the clip yeah
00:49:06
if you ship a new iMac you can't ship us a lightning keyboard with that thing you you sure as hell can you can you're
00:49:12
right you're right you can you can but like come on yeah so we were right on that one yeah for sure unfortunately I
00:49:19
think Marquez the minut said it out loud and he was like no yeah I guess um so yeah still lightning accessories I least
00:49:25
still liked your reasoning I think you said it last week where I think you were mentioning something else being the way to get rid of excess of stuff I think this iMac the iMac is going to be the
00:49:36
get way they get rid of all of their lightning stuff for the next couple years until it's gone and yeah either
00:49:42
that or they just you know the EU didn't make them get rid of lightning on the desktops but only on the laptop I mean only on the phone yet yeah yeah yet do
00:49:53
you think they're going to release anything else this year I I think it's already November I kind of doubt you don't think there's going to be an iPad
00:50:00
they could I guess but I heard that the big iPad change was coming next year so I guess here's my other question last year or this year we got some weird like
00:50:12
January stuff that we think was potentially just pushed back from Fall do you think that's where iPad winds up
00:50:18
it seems like there's why are they releasing an apple pencil two or 3 weeks ago and we're not going to see any iPad
00:50:24
change m that's great point right like so yeah it kind of feels like they should have
00:50:29
released it alongside a new Baseline iPad yeah yeah I I wouldn't be surprised if in November we see something um like a press release yeah like remember that one time
00:50:42
they just kind of had like a week where they released like one thing kind of every day like for the week I wouldn't
00:50:48
be surprised if we don't see something by the end of fall I think we'll see something in January again then um like
00:50:54
early start of next year here I don't know if that's going to be like an iPad seems to make the most
00:51:00
sense but yeah there's no Mac Mini there's no Mac Studio something along those lines I
00:51:06
feel like is going to come out here isn't there rumors of like that potential different xdr display the like
00:51:11
oh the higher there's L potential stuff that they could do and that doesn't really fit in the like early summer late
00:51:18
spring event that would come out yeah no ma mini seems like a really big oversight it does maybe they couldn't
00:51:24
ramp up production fast enough and they were just like picking what they could sell but I mean having a baseline Mac
00:51:30
Mini being able to you know if the graphics are actually that much better that seems like an obvious choice there
00:51:37
there's such an easy like little desktop to computer to recommend I mean if you're not if someone really doesn't
00:51:42
want a laptop um but yeah I think the other big thing from this whole event was the BTS we saw after and kind of the end of it that everyone was wondering about which was that the whole thing was
00:51:54
shot on iPhone mhm yeah which was and they so not only that it was shot on iPhone because we've seen multiple
00:52:00
different companies do this before I remember in 20 I think it was early 2020 there was a a Samsung event and they were holding these like boxes shooting it and I leaned to Marquez I was like
00:52:11
there this whole thing was shot on the Galaxy I bet and then a lot of companies started doing that this is the first
00:52:16
time Apple's done an event shot on iPhone I think so yeah they um this was slightly different than the way that other companies do it which is kind of nice because most other companies when
00:52:27
they do the shot on Galaxy or whatever they attach like a bazillion giant lens modules to it so it's like Cinema glass
00:52:35
that like goes or like they'll have they won't even have the lenses on the camera it'll just be direct to sensor we did a
00:52:41
um we did a video on this a long long time ago called like dope Tech shooting on smartphones where Marquez got to see
00:52:48
a little bit of the behind the scenes of a Samsung of shooting something and I think it was on like an RC car and it did have those lens attachments so Apple releasing this we did see that and now
00:52:59
while they didn't have lenses they still obviously had in Crazy production scenarios with lights and all that stuff which was really good that's not what even it's about you know there there's a
00:53:11
conversation online about like oh sure they shot an iPhone but they're using like thund $10,000 lights and it's like
00:53:20
yeah but light does everything yeah I mean it's it's still you can it can be impressive and it can still be something so far out of the realm of like what a consumer is ever going to do with it I
00:53:30
think we've talked about stuff like this when they were doing um what was the the
00:53:36
like portrait mode s like rack focusing in video I forgot was called it's a cinema cinema mode yeah so we were talking about similarly there of like this is a cool little thing consumers
00:53:49
are going to get but the scenarios that they're showing are basically never cinematic mode they're never going to
00:53:54
happen this is similar where it's impressive that that happens but most people aren't going to have giant Sky
00:53:59
panels and robotic arms and stuff like that um but it was extremely impressive that I nobody even blinked an eye until the very end of the keynote they just had a little blurb that was just like
00:54:11
this event was shot on iPhone if you can finish it and people say I don't believe it and then you throw the receipts out
00:54:17
there even with all the crazy production like around it is still super impressive
00:54:23
I also need to look at this but I saw something quickly this morning before we came in here that someone mentioned some
00:54:30
of the programs they were using in there were Premiere and um I forget what the other program was
00:54:37
but they were not it was not Final Cut interesting cuz like it kind of goes through people using they were using the
00:54:43
black magic oh yeah app that was the app in there and I don't maybe they were also Focus or something which was they
00:54:51
Wireless follow Focus follow Focus through a camera app I didn't know you could do really Co it's dope yeah yeah
00:54:58
um the whole production was wild I think that this was like so they they immediately they meant to the next day
00:55:04
release a BTS but they accidentally published it on their YouTube channel and immediately took it down but a ton of people just like ripped it oh yeah um
00:55:11
they knew what they were doing right because at the very end just in tiny letters it's like this event was shot on
00:55:17
iPhone I think they knew people were going to freak out because they already had this hole behind the scenes of how we did this like ready for the next day
00:55:24
um so they're kind of playing the media a little bit there it was smart and I mean like the the video itself you can
00:55:30
look at it as a cynic if you want of people of the people saying like oh when I got this I was like wow is this really
00:55:36
iPhone footage but like you're shooting they obviously made all these changes this year to be able to shoot
00:55:42
and log and shoot straight onto hard drives with USBC and and they were kind of showcasing that a little bit in the
00:55:48
BTS stuff um yeah the log for sure they said they used Apple log on it yeah and you can make stuff like listen if you do
00:55:54
that and you're doing your own color correcting and have great lights and and a good Studio spot and a good gimbal so
00:56:00
everything is steady like you can make a lot of footage shots like the super low light drone shots look really good
00:56:05
though right there the like low light of going over Apple Park and like not only low light but low light with really
00:56:11
bright light that's coming in like camera struggle with stuff like that I didn't see a lot of noise it was really
00:56:17
good it was really cool I'm I'm glad they did it uh behind the scenes of it um Honestly though I want to see the
00:56:23
behind the scenes of how they shoot stuff with actual cameras in there Marquez is dying to know how they like
00:56:29
mic up Tim Cook in the middle of like apple Park so yeah as production side I'd like to see stuff like that totally
00:56:35
totally all right well I think that's all for the Apple event we do have one little uh other quick note there was an
00:56:41
AI executive order that was signed um by the White House in the United States recently the order was quite vague it's
00:56:49
very long um but it is still very vague in a lot of ways uh the key takeaways that it covers are that companies need to conduct safety tests of how safe
00:57:01
their AI models are and share those with the government if those tests return concerning results the government can
00:57:07
force those companies to fix their programs platforms that they're running the a models on or just abandon their projects which is strange um new standards for AI industry Norms they
00:57:20
want to codify watermarks to alert customers of AI generated products which will not work um it's similar to the content credentials that we talked about
00:57:30
on the studio Channel recently with the like a m1p video where you can do a lot of things to try to create watermarks to
00:57:37
like embed metadata do all this stuff um but at the end of the day people are just going to like screenshot stuff
00:57:43
they're going to strip it somehow there are multiple companies like Google that are like embedding hidden watermarks
00:57:49
into things that you can't even see into like AI models so that you could put it through a program and it would just just
00:57:54
instantly know so maybe a screenshotted image would also know that yeah I don't know how you do that because any
00:58:01
Watermark that's going to actively prove that something is fake is going to completely destroy the image essentially like well it's like an embedded yeah the embedded ones but again I don't know how
00:58:13
much an embedded Watermark is going to really help the general public there was um gosh I heard about this thing where
00:58:20
you can like there's like this team of researchers at this University that are creating like they're poisoning AI
00:58:27
images somehow by like injecting a certain amount of pixels in certain areas that will mess up like if you use them to generate other images it will
00:58:38
mess up the AI image generators and make them like make something totally different yeah there's a lot of red
00:58:45
teaming going on right now in like the AI image generation space which is really interesting um other stuff that
00:58:51
the White House is codifying biomedical companies need to take additional precautions when using a to help make
00:58:56
medicines Etc sounds totally reasonable sounds reasonable I don't know enough about in there but like yes I would
00:59:02
always like medical fields to take extra I've heard that AI is like revolutionizing drug manufacturing
00:59:09
because now um I mean Google's been doing this for a while with all of these different bio biomed things but you can
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like you can just generate a protein structure that you need to fix a certain disease okay uh that said you know when
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something is generated in generative AI we shouldn't take anything for granted and just like take a medicine trust me
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bro this totally works yeah that's the real life inclination of like maybe be a little
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bit careful with generative AI yeah um and then government agencies are also going to face much stricter scrutiny
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when using any AI platforms yeah I I hope so this is uh like people judging themselves on things or like so I I don't know the government
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telling the government to be careful is always like yeah I also think that in the end at the end of the day um a lot
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of the biggest Innovation from any technology happens in someone's garage and that's not a company right okay yeah like these precautions like all of these
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things that the government's forcing these companies to do only pertains to like these big companies but anyone can
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mess around with these AI models by themselves if they have the power in their garage and they're not being monitored by the government in that way
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so it'll maybe help I don't know it's I think we mostly wanted to talk about it quickly just because seeing an executive order come from the government means AI
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is obviously exploding which we've been seeing and it's exploding to the point where we're hoping to find ways to be
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safer with it and if we're getting an executive order that means we're in the midst of something super important yeah
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and remember that chat GPT only came out in on November 30th of 2022 which was less than a year ago and it's already getting essentially
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executive orders from the White House in the United States all right so new speed record
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speed I mean they were the first 200 million users before threads so they got there in like they got there in like one month where threads got there in 5 days so yeah they were the first applic the
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fastest application to 100 million users that's really cool yeah it's crazy all right and with that I think let's take it to
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trivia trivia dude all right quick update on the score Marquez and David still tied at 11 Andrew it's nine with nine nice nice that was a long
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pause so I'm going to try and call or FaceTime Marquez later to get his answers for these but in the meantime
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what is the name of the operating system system that runs on honor [Music] phones take your time before we get to the answer to this
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question last night I was hanging out with my girlfriend and somehow penguins got brought up penguins and she was like you know like lonus and I was like oh no what that's
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Lin she was like yeah lonus is a penguin I was like what are you trying lus the computer thing I was like the Linux penguin well Linux was made by lonus tral is that his last name really yeah
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his name his name is lonus she actually knews more about this than you do I know schooled yeah if if you search uh lonus
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online it's either the guy that made Linux or or lonus Sebastian from lonus acps oh lonus tvols isy yeah that's a
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sick last name all right flip him and read I put Magic uios correct I just put honor UI dang usually in the flow of the
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podcast you know you're talking about a topic you can kind of yep think about it in the back of your head you're coming in cold on the spot I think it's honor
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OS awesome thank God cuz they have the they have the honor magic phones and I thought that those were like the first ones to use it or something I don't know I know nothing about honor phones well
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in your defense they're not sold here but also not in your defense we do get some every now and then so we do we do
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all right next question Cool next question early players in the web game Okay Cupid and Spark Notes forgot about this question have what in
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common early players in the web game I have a terrible not I'm not even going to put that in
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uh I don't know all right I just wrote same founder I want I'm tempted to say same founder that is correct wow nice Andrew
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what do you got David I couldn't think of anything else uh I put that they're both white combinator companies I think
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they both predate why combinator but let's double check oh you're wrong sorry that brings Andrew you're now up
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to 10 points nice let's go let's hope Marquez gets both of those wrong oh he's going
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to know the magic UI want I don't know if he will I don't right I don't know if he will I do want to say and I'll
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probably I'll probably say this again next week I want to take back my take on the GTR not being a track car I was properly educated in the comments
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section now been informed thoroughly about the history of the GTR how dope it was as a
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track car and now I'm up to be on GTR thank you comment section and that's I got a point to someone of my 12 in the lead uh as of right now we ask Marquez
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in a few hours Marquez has a possible Delta of two here putting him in between second and first place until the trivia
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points schrdinger box of this podcast has been open I feel like the same founder thing was kind of obvious well
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you didn't get it whoops all right well that's all we got for you for this week uh make sure you stay tuned for next week cuz I'm sure there will be more stuff coming up very
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very soon we're kind of rounding out the year here uh we only got two more months officially this is like the everyone
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kind of needed everything to be out before Q4 time right now or before Christmas are we in Q4 we're in Q4
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either October Before Christmas mhm pretty much now is the cut off time yes yes so keep in touch with wave for I don't know how to do this
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Sil [Music] play that again I didn't realize all the voices that are also in yeah there's a voice that that like mystical sound effect no no
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but wait how does a different sound it sounds like another sound every time I listen to it same what are you what