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you guys want to know uh what the top dxo score and phone is right now 176 are we I'm guessing like 137 the OnePlus the number three okay okay the
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number there's a tie for second so the number four is the iPhone 16 Pro Max with a 157 jeez wow then there's a tie for
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second between the honor magic 6 Pro and the pixel 9 Pro XL 158 oh B those have cameras dude that that's 163 that's the number one score right
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now hey what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts
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I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David and uh we actually do have a lot of stuff back this week uh Sora has officially
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launched and we took an exclusive first look at it we'll talk a little more about that in a second Galaxy s25 rumors
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are catching our attention mention we have some Rapid Fire end of the year brief reviews on some phones that didn't
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get full videos and also fun fact Gemini 2.0 literally just got announced like 10
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minutes before we jumped in here so we haven't actually gotten to test or try it but it's a thing that happened that's
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some news that you should know about Gemini 2.0 it's an experimental version it's cool but first I wanted to start
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with a thought exercise I put this in the slack because I was very curious to hear what you guys what all of you guys would say about this including zui who sleep sing in the corner um it's a tweet
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that reads you uh received a wedding invitation that's specifically said on the dress code line no apple watches please how does that make you feel do
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you cuz there's lots of takes about this now oh Apple watches don't dress up well oh I would just wear an Apple watch
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anywhere where are you on the spectrum of I'm going to a wedding that's no apple watches allowed how how does that
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make you feel it makes a a lot of people feel something because it has 9.1 million views on this tweet it does
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um I guess I'll go first yeah go first of all I just want to hear what you say so that I can say the
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opposite if I'm going to a wedding and they asked it I would take the Apple yeah like I I'm the least uh like not
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argumentative or like least conflict person possible attach to the app so I'm not trying to it's their day yeah it's their day they're the one paying a ton of money for it if they ask me to where
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the Apple watch I'm trying to figure out why well okay if I was in the middle of
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a like workout competition I would be devastated because Dance Floor weddings racks up the rings on that fitness app um that true you you'd severely have to
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make up a lot for that or just lose the day so that would be a huge bummer I agree they don't dress up very nice um I
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don't know about that I feel like some of them do I think if you thr like a metal
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watch on a darked watch and throw a nice like watch face on like one of those simple watch fa that looks fine that's pretty classy I imagine it's a pictures thing they're taking pictures at the
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wedding and they don't want pictures of Apple watch I guess that's the distinction is this or if you're in the bridal party you definitely just listen
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cuz you know them well enough just listen to them I this is a general wedding invitation like you're just going you're invited I have a take okay
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okay my take is that things that can be come dated people often don't want in their content and I think that makes a lot of sense right like I heard a song the other day that was like there's more
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to life than retweets on your Twitter it's not called Twitter anymore now you're like dating yourself right it's
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not this omniscient thing watches have existed for extremely long time watches you could make the argument are more of
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a concept than are a thing and the more simple that you make your watch the more timeless it is so when you have that
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Apple watch gen one and you're you're really dating which is you know fine but I think that a lot of people don't want to put themselves in a space where things could be potentially dated I
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fully agree with everything you're saying and my argument to the couple who is saying that would be MH everything
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else in your wedding is going to get dated too it's just it's just a a snapshot in time and it helps you better remember the time that it was your haircut will be outdated your suit will
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be outdated all the cars in the background that you drive away in will be out dated the watch is just a part of
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the times that's that's that's all I agree with you you know the time time I will say it would be smart to like turn
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your watch on do not disturb or something during scen off theater mode or that that you know so that you could
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really experience the time you know but uh I don't know I'll do whatever the hell they want you know one time I
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bought dress shoes for a wedding yeah well only no way what have you worn to every other wedding my sneakers can I tell you a story uh that's actually I got yelled at by my roommate at one
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point actually it was Michael fiser so I was going to my sister's wedding right and sister's wedding my
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sister's wedding pretty big deal and Michael Fisher was like well where you I just bought my first suit ever which I
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wore to like 30 weddings and then I tore them in half by accident I was dancing really intensely yeah yeah good Rings
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thank you I it did happen by accident I tried to own it too many children and and old ladies were staring at me so I went and change my pants okay but um so
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he's like well what about your shoes and I was like what do you mean and he's like you have to get dress shoes and I was like no yes I'm not buying dress
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shoes for a wedding I'm going to wear them once and he was like you got to do it I didn't do it I went to my sister's
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wedding stayed at a motel with my parents and in the morning my dad puts on his uh flipflops and my dad and my mom put on her sneakers and I I go oh so you're not
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wearing dress shoes and my dad goes why would I buy dress shoes for a wedding and I was like okay there it is you as a
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person makes so much more sense to me now yeah can I can I give my Apple watch at the wedding Pi yeah please I think so
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we the five of us in this room right we we're into Tech we've been in tech for some time our brains have been slowly
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turned to Mush over the last 10 years by being in this industry um for those whose brains are still intact which still have wrinkles in them um I can
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understand not seeing your Apple watch or any Smartwatch as being fundamentally different from your phone and I could see it just feeling like you have your
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phone out the entire wedding even though we don't see it that way we see it as like a separate product category with
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separate use cases you use it in a different way I understand and I have lots of friends that even if I go out to
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a bar with them and they see an email flash on my Apple watch they're like kind of offended they're like why do you do you really need to have your email on your wrist like we're hanging out and
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it's like there's a part of me that's like come on but there's another part of me it's like yeah you're kind of right
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about that one um so maybe maybe maybe the maybe just put it in theater mode I don't know I could also see in the sense of like we all of us here know how to
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silence our Apple watches but they're so popular that a lot of people who are not Technologic Advanced we them and like
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the worst thing is just mid ceremony like ding ding and's so like at this point I would
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rather just blanket statement be like please just don't wear it um cuz like that's like I've officiated two weddings and I always had to make in the beginning like put your phones away
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everyone there is a photographer here like they know how to do it and every single time there's always somebody with
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a phone out it's just Pro tip cuz I just officiated a wedding have them give them two minutes right up top to take all the
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pictures that is what I did I was like take them all now and then put them away some have you guys officiated a wedding
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I've never officiated a wedding all right so we at least we're in the majority here yeah I was about to be like this is the craziest statist like
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like I've only been the photographer at a wedding I've never I think that's way more pressure way more it was yeah
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that's a lot of pressure especially because they didn't tell me that it was their wedding oh yeah well then there's not a
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lot of pressure and then into all of the pressure you should come out for the weekend for this like fam family and
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best friends party oh my they didn't say it was a wedding and then I showed up and they were like this is actually our
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wedding surprise everybody and then I had and then I was like and they were like David can you take the pictures and I was like but luckily I bring my
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cameras everywhere so it worked out but I have two notes on this on this whole topic one uh true story lonus uh wore
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socks and sandals to Austin and Evans Wedding nice there were black black socks and black sandals but it was socks
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and sandals it was oned I was going to say that's pretty impressive yeah on brand it worked out
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it was a suit it was it was great that's dope uh and two I wore an Apple Watch with the metgala
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I if anyone you have the greatest answer to this question possible of like is this bigger than the Met is this more or formal I will add Marquez yes you looked
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great you did look great I think so it was just under the cuff it wasn't like out you know it wasn't like a highlight of my outfit but it was there and you
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can see it in pictures and it's not that bad but I all the pictures I saw of you with the watch and correct me if I'm
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wrong you did have the screen off I don't remember okay it probably didn't show up on
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camera yeah I wasn't I for sure wasn't on my watch during it yeah but it was there in case I needed the stand hours oh my God or if I got an important email you know okay as a as a watch guy I'm
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screaming internally at this whole conversation want take I want because not only should you not wear Apple
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watches I think they should go a step further and ban certain kinds of watches wow yeah I'm saying it certain kinds of
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regular watch even mechanical watch like cuz there are there are Rolexes that are like 50 mm and they're massive and it's
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like I don't care if it's a Rolex get that Behemoth off your wrist like it needs to be a nice dress watch classy
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thin slide onto the cuff there's a whole thing about when you're doing suits and
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took cedos you want like a nice watch that just disappears yeah but then you're trying to like control the the
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guest's look dress code yeah my you already have to wear certain color unless you're Hagrid 43 mm Max right am
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I right I just want to know in this scenario if if I like someone was wearing their Smartwatch and the bride comes up and says I said no apple watches and they go this is the Galaxy
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watch five ma'am this is a whoop this is just a garment that play out well it's the same thing as like when you have your Android phone and you go to the bodega and you go to pay and they go oh Apple pay and you're like
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yeah yes I could become difficult here but there's no reason to do so good move definitely a good move yeah yeah yeah I don't know I think it's funny one other thing I want to bring up real quick yeah
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related to this is like the Apple watch is the most popular watch in the world it is I wonder how many people only
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started wearing a watch at all because they wanted an Apple Watch versus the people that replaced a l their exting
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watch a lot of people yeah a ton so in that way it could be considered more of an accessory I
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suppose yeah yeah I I'm pretty sure if any single one of us here got that wedding invite we would just not wear our Apple yeah because I'm respectful I'm not sure push the B for
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sure dress up the Apple watch and put it in theater mode and then be like do you still want me to take it off should have
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it like on a chain in your vest like like flavorfully yeah wait do they make no I mean like the um pocket watch pocket watch Apple watch I thought you meant Hears A no no how it's like in
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your vest in the little pocket get I'm not getting the Rings though if I do that that's that's funny
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no it can fun fact the Apple watch can track your heart rate through your upper thigh it's a thing but oh you're wearing
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it I'm lying yeah I was like strapped this is if it's like in pocket watch config in in the front pocket next
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to your phone you know how in the movies they have like the Assassins that have like the knife on their upper thigh you do that but you just strap the Apple
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watch there so they can uh track your steps yeah got to get those steps man yeah all right yeah we got to move on
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yeah uh fun headline you can now buy a Hyundai on Amazon in the US uh I see this headline and it's Amazon autos and I've I'm familiar with eBay motors and other ways of buying a car online but
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there's some funny about the idea of like buying a car and then like 24 hours later they just like deliver it to your
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driveway that's not what happen no but that's what that's what you picture when you see Amazon and this headline but
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it's Amazon Autos they they don't deliver it they don't deliver it to you I bought a lawnmower with Amazon Prime
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yeah free shipping I feel like we're not that far off can you get a cars size drone on Amazon no they're too busy flying in our skies right now uh okay so
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yeah so so basically they are launching Amazon Autos it's this new push that they're doing in the United States thus
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far they partnered with 48 different cities and specifically Hyundai right now uh but effectively you put in your
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zip code and it tells you this is the closest uh Hyundai dealership that has the car you want you select your make
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model and trim of what they have available and then you can do everything that you would normally do with an
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actual car dealership like you can you can trade in your car through the Amazon portal you can also sort by prices like I'm I'm pulling up cars in our area right now there's a t you search how did
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you actually search this I clicked on the Amazon Autos link oh in the article and it took me to the hub it's not great
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that I can't figure this out exactly from their actual page yeah yeah ban if you type in Hyundai then there's buy your new Hyundai on Amazon MH shop available cars oh what yeah it is crazy
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it kind of looks like when eBay launched eBay Motors it just it's a weird idea to see a car on Amazon yeah but right now
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it only work it's only with Hyundai but they're planning on expanding to the manufacturers next year and they're also
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going to expand the amount of um dealerships that they they work with what I'm interested in is the button
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says begin purchase not purchase well which like well but like the every single Auto like dealership has a price and then you go there and it's a different price and then you have to
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true play that dumb there's no heckling on this yeah does this is this like price listed as price out the door
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that's great are you sure yes I read that in an article I can almost guarantee you this would not be the
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price when I got to the dealership whether they say that or not I've had dealership straight up lie to CL you
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check out on Amazon though it says begin purchase yeah but you do the you go through the process you the price say
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price excluding government fees taxes and $187.50 dealer fee oh but then that should be it you you're not haggling anymore after you like lock this price in which you never should have ever had
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to do with cars that was the one thing that Tesla really like changed the world with was like can I just pay for the thing at the price that it says yeah but the price changes every two weeks that's
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true have yeah yeah but yeah you can just uh sort you know cars near you there's a
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bunch of ionic 6 Ionic 5 you know what they have to do now they have to bring back the Amazon dash button no you should be not only should you be able to buy a hyunday on Amazon you should be
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able to hit a button in your yeah for those that don't remember this and like 2017 or so they released the Amazon dash button which was a little sticky button you could have in your
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house that when you pressed it it would just automatically order the thing that you assigned it to it's usually like paper towels or dishwasher t or yeah
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yeah and people people's kids started just smashing them and there were these stories of like 30 packs of 30 boxes of
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toilet paper would just show up at people's houses that's wild to not have two Factor on that just like give me a
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notification on my phone don't just order in someone could just I ordered 12 boxes of Tide Pods just now that's crazy
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two Factor that's the only yeah there was a there was a really fun hacker Community going on with that though where people were reassigning them to
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things like opening their garage and like doing routines and stuff with them that is sick pretty cool cuz they were
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free actually I think if you I think they were $5 but they gave you $5 off your next purchase of the thing they were assigned to why would Amazon not want a button that just gave them money
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every time you pressed it yeah yeah wow so that's fun um maybe you'll buy your next car on Amazon dystopia maybe your next Hyundai uh okay here's another
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interesting one that's come up this week and I haven't tried this but I really am curious to um and maybe you'll be
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interested too in stagram trial reels so hear me out typically when you post a reel you want to make sure your followers see it right but what if there
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was a feature and yes the irony is not lost on me but what if there was a feature where you could publish a reel
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where none of your followers see it but it does populate to the feed and the algorithm can pick it up and
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non-followers can start to react to it I thought that was just called posting on Instagram that's what that's what the
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comments are all saying but the idea behind this trial reel is you're not really sure if your audience will be
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into this one but you do want to sort of test the waters and see how people are reacting to it and if it turns out to be
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a good one then you can sort of unlock it and it will then show up on the homepage and the feed for your followers
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as well and on your profile they can still have it sent to them like if it gets shown in someone else's real it gets sent to you it's still visible but
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it's a trial reel I kind of want to I think it's interesting yeah it's an interesting feature to me
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my first question and I don't want to throw this off topic too hard too fast this seems like it would take a lot of
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work to develop an creating a way of posting something that goes to an algorithm that doesn't involve your followers like this wasn't an easy task from Instagram I check all of your
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followers from people who could see it yeah it just feels the only thing it's doing is it's not populating in in the
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home feed for the people who follow you yeah so like only swiping reals pretty much but it does show up when people swipe Reals in explor so if I'm following David not the people follow me
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yeah but still so like that means it's a it's sending it to the feed but now I have to have a feed it just says exclude
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from followers of David yeah that's pretty pretty much it okay I was going to say they did this before an Instagram
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app or iPad app that I just got the iPad I'm allowed to complain even more now how have you tried it on the mini the Instagram app no I didn't there is oh it's just like thek even downloaded it fair yeah yes so
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I want to try this so the idea is if you're like a beauty influencer and you're mostly doing Beauty videos but you want to do like a comedy reel or
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something and you don't want the people who normally only subscribe to you for beauty things to to see it because you
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want to experiment then after 24 hours you get to see how all the rest of Instagram liked it and then you get to
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decide at that point if you want to put it on your followers feed and on your page or if you want to Archive it
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immediately which is kind of weird it's a trial run yeah but the thing is like it's going to go out to the random people but then you
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have to decide if you want to delete it or put it on your page and if you put it on your page then your followers will
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see it so they're going to see it anyway well they also automatically posts to your page after 3 days if it does well
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yeah interesting yeah there's no way to keep it private it would be crazy to like make something that's viral that
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your audience can like never see and like create this secondary feed of whatever you're doing I have okay I've wanted this for YouTube for so long where like you have a YouTube you know
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how people make multiple YouTube channels for different interests it's like can you just subscribe to someone's
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interest on their YouTube channel you know like if I wanted to have a photography section of my YouTube channel and someone could subscribe to
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that and I wanted a video essay section and people could could subscribe to that I would much prefer that to just making
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separate YouTube channel goog plus was so ahead of it time can you follow a playlist was that part of go plus yeah you just share it to your photography
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Circle oh yeah or people who follow you would put you in the photography Circle and then the things you share would just
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be in photography you can't follow a playlist on someone's Channel you can you follow it would mean they would have to correctly put it in the playlist would have to keep only following the
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playlist which nobody does kind of strange and also they've just deprioritized subscriptions anyway and
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the algorithm just everything now so it' be nice if if Instagram had this too you know yeah it's like david. Beauty David
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do comedy I don't know I just wanted like what funny things could you do with these reels that aren't going out to
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your audience but going out to other audiences gas your audience what content can you like put out there that you're
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specifically like cuz you have a huge audience right so like you could say don't show this to four million people essentially on Instagram mhm yeah and like what what funny cryptic thing could
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you do on the side of it there's got to be a if you're seeing this it's a joke I could play I don't know what it would be
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a possibility that that could be really interesting yeah I don't know this is why well I'm sure I'll have this feature
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at some point soon but yeah I I want to try this and I'm going to probably do it with like a throwaway reel that I you
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know wasn't going to publish anyway but just to see what happens so now to properly follow your favorite Instagram influencer you need an account that
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follows them and an account that doesn't follow them just in case they post something but you have to randomly see
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it in your yeah you have to get lucky enough to find it dang true fans why is it different once you've shown it to
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random people and it perform well with random people that you're willing to put it on your page because your followers
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are still going to react the same way that they always have well maybe okay I'm trying to think I hear
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what you're saying but maybe there's something you're you're trying that's like a little bit outside of your comfort zone and you want to try it
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first to see if regular people because the goal when you publish a real is to grow your following anyway you want it to be shown to people who don't follow
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you but sometimes if it's shown to the people who follow you and they don't react to it well then it kind of hurts
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the chances of it being shown to more people so you want to start with it being shown to those more people just to
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see if they like it if they do like it okay my regular audience probably will like it too but if they don't like it never mind it was just a trial that's a
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fair point it's like if I want to do something else but I want to have a better chance of it doing well in the algorithm yeah something a little
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different my audience probably wouldn't immediately love also quick clarification it auto shares after 72
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hours if you click the toggle to allow it to share if it performs well so there's a potential that you can post
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something and permanently leave it on only the nonfer feed there's some potential to do
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something silly here and I need to figure it out before someone else does you should be brainstorming this whole this should be an incredible my winter
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break sorry I can't celebrate Christmas Lane have to fig I need a crazy there's a joke here somewhere yeah all right well we got to take a quick break we got a bunch more phones to talk about stuff that's come out this year and that's
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coming next year and uh even more after that so before we take that break trivia
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[Music] time today's first question is we talked about buying a car on Amazon but this is not the first time really expensive
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stuff has been sold on Amazon so today I'm going to read you three real Amazon listings and I need you to tell me which one is the most expensive I like this
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are you ready to hear the listings I'm going to read the titles verbatim from Amazon product number one quick simple
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easy seq fully equipped double twostory or excuse me double story two-bedroom free preab expandable container house 40 ft x 20 luxury home stairs included free
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bed set with Terrace I would love that the most Amazon listing possible I so just just for clarity this is a luxury prefab twostory home with uh 40 by 20 ft
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floor plan stairs included stairs included item number two Queen Victoria Bano Dees IM Mexico 1,000 pesos 1905 dated stock certificate with dividend
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coupons attached on uncancelled that is bond that is thought it was a painting at first and then those are uh vintage peso notes from
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Mexico from 1905 item number three is a painting it is the painting titled the way by expressionist artists by by that's a really hard name
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I apologize leave this in gaer tanov gaffer to Mar off the painting is called the way and it is an expressionist painting you're looking at what it looks like no because if you
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look up what it looks like you'll probably see the price oh I was trying to make a joke but oh the way I didn't
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see any price right you didn't see any price didn't see any price I was trying never mind I was doing D way like show
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me de way the Sonic the Hedgehog thing but Knuckles the it didn't work uh anyway so think about which one of those
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is most expensive old money a a a small a small a big small house a small big house stairs included stairs included or some painting some paint on
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a canvas H by a person by a person that I personally have never heard of but maybe they are a world famous artist it's on Amazon all right we we will
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think about that answers will be at the end like usual we'll be right back [Music]
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got a bunch of phones that are next me here now you can kind of see him if you're looking at the video version but the idea behind this is we reviewed a
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bunch of phones this year but there's also a bunch of phones that come out that we don't review and a couple of them I still think are at least
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noteworthy in some way spoiler alert the smartphone awards are also coming out depending on when you're watching this either soon or it's also just come out
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we love the smartphone Awards that's like the big Flagship video to end the year we recognize a lot of phones and a
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lot of phones get mentioned that didn't get their own videos I I think this is a good time to highlight some phones that
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have come out in the last few weeks of the year that haven't gotten a video but that are interesting in some way cuz I
00:28:35
saw a lot of phones that come out this time of the year we realized cuz we like started doing this at the beginning of
00:28:41
November and then looked at our email and we're like there's a lot of things we still need to see a big thing is that
00:28:46
Qualcomm used to release the new flagship ship in December so the first chips would come out around Jan the first phones would come out around
00:28:53
January but they keep moving it back and now they did it in early October yeah so this we got a whole wave of phones in
00:28:59
November and December yeah and that was really interesting because I put together my Award winners like mid
00:29:05
November and then I thought wait hold on wait there's like two or three phones that might actually be worthy of checking out and we like held back on
00:29:11
some of the trophies and like on some of the awards and actually got to test some of these phones and have now put
00:29:17
together the awards accordingly so anyway I got four phones in front of me here and we can do them in any order I
00:29:23
don't know if we have a theme for how we want to start but they're all they all have the word Pro in the name they do
00:29:29
that's one thing I here they're all very expensive phones but I think we can just
00:29:35
go through one by one yeah maybe let's start with the vi okay okay so here's interesting phone number one this is the
00:29:41
vi X200 Pro there's also a family of x200s there's an X200 and an X200 mini um this phone is complete it's got it all it's the ultra of vivo's lineup um I
00:29:56
think the most impressive part of it though would be the cameras so they work with Zeiss it's got a 5050 megap primary camera 50 megapix Ultra wide camera and
00:30:03
then a 200 megap telephoto camera uh and what that means is you can crop in a lot
00:30:11
and ideally still maintain sharpness and it's a really good set of cameras I think this is the closest to a real camera that I've seen
00:30:19
a smartphone camera shooting experience get from the results to the actual shots like shooting them and uh you can you
00:30:26
can tell by looking at it it's a very camera gigantic camera focused phone uh yeah thoughts any other things you want
00:30:32
to know about it I just think that the funniest thing about this line is that the Vivo X200 mini is still 6.3 in yeah
00:30:40
mini yeah we'll talk about that in the smart phone Awards but many there's not too many small phones these days yeah um
00:30:48
this phone also has a giant battery and super fast charging and wireless charging and it's got a it's got a
00:30:53
pretty high-end chip that enables a lot of the AI features it's not the Snapdragon 8 Elite but it is mediatech
00:30:59
dity 9400 there you have it and it's yeah it's a rock solid phone it's a actually a really really really really good phone so wait this uh street
00:31:09
photography mode is kind of cool there's a bunch of modes that are crazy in the camera if you you should also try so
00:31:15
there's a there's a portrait mode lens emulator I'm assuming it's emulating half of these but so good cont and like it actually has contrast oh and there's
00:31:27
different oh wow there's different like are you looking at the portrait mod yeah so the
00:31:33
lenses you can emulate the background bokeh swirl characteristics of different lenses as well which is really and it it
00:31:39
still has like a cutout and you kind of can tell it's a fake portrait mode but it's cool that it works and actually looks we're in the like street
00:31:46
photography mode that makes it kind of look FY and has like different uh textured yeah there's a it says
00:31:53
textured and then it says like a a Zeiss one uh seems like natural looks like any
00:31:59
other smartphone camera and that it just jacks the Shadows a ton but textured actually gives it textured was contrast
00:32:07
versions not the it's one of the Luts Luts Vivid is just more saturated than natural with brighter highlights then there's black and white and then textur just is more contrast so as you can see
00:32:20
by what's happening here this is a phone that you would get if you're really into photography if you are very into the
00:32:25
different looks you can get the different customizations can mess with the different lenses or like pseudo fake
00:32:30
AI helped lenses that you can play with on a camera these this is all of that there's just a ton of stuff in the camera here and then it happens to be an awesome phone outside of the great camera so see wait that Zoom seems kind
00:32:44
of nuts actually the zoom is really so it goes to 100 right 135 135 X conting to millimeter in this the like Street photographer Sony needs to take
00:32:56
notes because like this is the exact opposite of Sony Sony is like between but Sony's is like really hard to understand and like so and this is like let's take Pro uh features and make it
00:33:10
fun to look at and like a clean UI son already announced something like this it's just coming out in two
00:33:15
years no I mean it's got all these Pro features like white balance and aperture and shutter speed that you can control
00:33:21
manually and then it's got these rapid uh focal length changing features but like this is considered basic mode yeah
00:33:30
which is crazy C1 C2 oh there's presets oh my this is awesome yeah like a fun UI that like feels filmy anyway sorry that's
00:33:42
just the camera that's just the camera it also is a great screen it's also got these nice flat sides and it's got this
00:33:48
brush metal look to it it's nice it's got this ring Vivo X200 Pro that's the that's the first one any other questions about it any other ideas yeah that's first you swap swap to that Ellis oh
00:34:00
yeah yeah this is one where like the it's got an ult ultronic fingerprint reader too this's one where the camera
00:34:06
bump is so big that it kind of you kind of feel it when you're holding it like weighs the phone I will say the uh the
00:34:11
Oppo Find X8 Pro is kind of like a cousin phone to this uh but is similar except it has I think this phone has two two different telephoto lenses so it's all 50 megapixel sensors but it's like a
00:34:24
50 megapixel primary Ultra wide 3x and 6X so that's why they do with this instead it's got this nice I'll let you
00:34:32
hold it it's like a marble feeling back with this this particular color um it is
00:34:38
let me double check but I believe this is the first Snapdragon 8 Elite phone we're looking at so let me the marble
00:34:44
back is really nice no fingerprints although the marble texture almost just looks like it's already
00:34:50
smudged yeah this feels nicer in the hand just cuz it's like thinner and less top despite still having a huge camera bump yeah it seems like the Oppo one is a little bit more about style than
00:35:04
functionality necessarily even though that the find X phones have always been really really amazing ever since the
00:35:10
first one came out it's just been I've I've reviewed a lot of Oppo Find X phones this is not a Snapdragon 8 Elite
00:35:15
phone by the way so this is still the demens 9400 uh it is it was in consideration as
00:35:22
well for battery because if you look at the specs it's a 5910 mAh battery with wireless charging with fast charging so that was another thing like this thin that's yeah in a phone that looks like a regular thickness uh so there's a lot of
00:35:34
good things going on with that phone to it has a word Pro in the name for a reason you know it's got high-end stuff happening with the screen it's bright
00:35:40
hos blood branding hosle blood branding pretty classic that's the thing they keep doing but does it have ai yes in
00:35:48
fact when you go to the website it says powerful camera powerful AI yeah it has the uh the slider the alert slider that's the OnePlus calling of it but the the volume slider switch on the corner
00:36:00
as well alert switch Yeah alert switch Yeah so that is the Oppo Find X8 Pro that's also out oh it's called alert slider too okay cool then we have these
00:36:11
two phones over here these are both Snapdragon 8 Elite phones so I just want to say what that means so that's the new
00:36:18
Snapdragon chip the new Qualcomm chip the Snapdragon 8 Elite has started coming out and I think Dave 2D did a
00:36:25
really good job with his video about this somehow this chip has made like a really big leap from the the previous
00:36:31
generation of Snapdragon chips from Qualcomm to the point where it's both more efficient and has higher Peak power
00:36:38
in a meaningful way so you can get better performance in a way that doesn't throttle with games when they make good
00:36:44
cooling solutions for these phones and they get longer battery life like 20 30 maybe 40% longer that's a crazy jump for one year MH so really looking forward to seeing a lot of phones with the Snapdragon 8 Elite chip in them these
00:36:57
two we have here are very much gaming phones so they have focused on the performance aspect but also happen to do
00:37:04
a really good job with the rest of the stuff too because gaming phones are great media phones so here's the first one this is the Rog phone 9
00:37:13
Pro so couple things about this one is they have the screen on the back that you saw me make the short on but also
00:37:20
still has wireless charging just higher on the back of the phone uh you have a 185 HZ display at the front there's still a headphone jack at the bottom
00:37:32
there's still the two USBC ports they've kind of tamed down the aesthetic overall but you still have the front-facing speakers it's still very much a gaming
00:37:39
phone with the high refresh rate and the high brightness and the Snapdragon 8 Elite but that's
00:37:44
that there's something funny about going from the the X200 Pro with the Zeiss branded camera to the Oppo with the Hasselblad branded camera and then this one just says like the good luck have
00:37:55
fun yeah on it in the difference in cameras between the gaming phones and the the other daily flagships is this is
00:38:02
Sleek though this is like what the r phones should have always been in the sense of like it's still a gamer phone
00:38:09
it's got somewhat of gamer aesthetic but not the like make fun of me on the subway gamer because last year they kind
00:38:15
of took away a lot of the things that made it feel gamery at all and then now they brought back like the texture and
00:38:21
the like rapid triggers and stuff too right and the side USBC port if you're really gaming all the time awesome cuz then it's not in the way on the side although the headphone Jack's still on
00:38:33
the side so that feels counterintuitive yeah but yeah yeah so I you can play I if you're on the subway playing games on the back of your phone you're probably still going to get looked at but yeah great for that 5,800 mAh battery 65 watt
00:38:48
hypercharge yeah good looks it's it's funny because like the percent doesn't seem that big it'll be like oh this is a
00:38:54
5% or 10% larger battery and that might not make make headlines the same way as the experience difference but I think
00:39:01
people just don't care why their battery life's longer they just want their battery life to be longer so that's also
00:39:07
true I mean we get into the details but this's the last phone this is the red magic 10 Pro this has a cutout in the
00:39:16
back or in the side for a an active fan which turns on anytime temperatures get up anytime you're gaming or anytime you plugged in charging and when you plug it in you hear fan I wish I had like a USB
00:39:29
I I would hold it up to the mic so you could hear it but like the fan spins up and it makes like a whining noise uh so
00:39:35
this phone is very much concerned with performance and thermals oh do we have uh do you need it in a charger I just
00:39:42
figured your computer yeah let's actually plug it in so you can hear the fan all right this is plugging in the red magic 10
00:39:49
Pro oh oh my goodness I would not want that to happen every time I plug my phone in yeah like
00:39:56
you can't turn the fan off that's a default uh cuz it wants to maximize your charging speed which is a 100 watt Peak
00:40:04
uh without overheating it has a 7,000 mAh battery 7,50 okay so it's combining the new Snapdragon Elite ship with the 750 mAh battery it also has the air triggers it's very squared off this is
00:40:17
much more in the gamer aesthetic I dig it yeah for some reason I think it looks really sick it's a good looking phone
00:40:24
it's pretty clean on the front pretty minimal not much to the best you got a front facing or you got a
00:40:29
headphone jack at the top which is cool uh yeah this is a this is a gaming phone
00:40:35
for sure it's got all of the fun graphics on the back that you'd expect from F on both sides yeah so I'm
00:40:41
assuming this is you can literally see the fan yeah this is not going to be a waterproof phone no this is not waterproof yeah pretty crazy that this
00:40:48
is a phone with a 7,050 milliamp battery and it just looks like a normal phone it's a big phone but
00:40:55
it's a normal looking phone yeah a few manufacturers recently switched from lithium ion to Silicon carbon batteries
00:41:01
and you can pack a lot more energy density in that same package um that was a very quiet update that we didn't
00:41:07
really hear a lot of fanfare about but that's actually a pretty major thing it's probably because a lot of Manufacturers instead of actually giving
00:41:14
you more battery capacity will just make the phone thinner and have the same battery capacity which is probably
00:41:20
what's going to happen in the iPhone 17 slim or whatever that ends up being called yeah keep seeing that the air or
00:41:25
whatever yeah yeah but I do appreciate that they're improving battery density in a
00:41:31
meaningful way because there's always a all the hype about the graphine battery or some crazy breakthrough battery
00:41:36
that's not really usually how it works usually it's just slow improvements over time and this is maybe a 3 to 5 to 8%
00:41:43
Improvement in battery density but that's the difference between 5,000 and 5800 right you could get a six you could
00:41:49
get a 7,000 M battery in a phone now so it's wild they put a 7,000 mamp battery in here yeah and a fan 24 gigs of RAM 24
00:41:57
you see it through the side too wow dang yeah that's wild and a headphone jack they have space look at this they've always had tell 7,000 milliamp and a
00:42:09
headphone jack and a fan they've always had space they've always had space Andrew something crazy I would maybe
00:42:16
switch to that for a little bit it's kind of sick I just think it's one of the prettiest finishes I had seen on a
00:42:21
phone in a long time it's just like very industrial kind of like Gunk and I I like the battery life and I would miss literally everything about my current
00:42:32
phone but this is as opposite as your iPhone purple mini could I think in spirit it's kind of the same you know what I mean I need to explain that yeah it is yeah yeah iph spirit animal look I
00:42:48
I'm not using an iPhone 12 mini because it's better than any other iPhone right I'm using it for two reasons I'm using
00:42:54
it because I already have it and I'm using it because I love the Finish you know what I mean like if I really cared
00:42:59
about my phone to that extreme degree I would just get a better iPhone for at this point like $100 cuz I could get a better iPhone and get an iPhone 13 you know um and that's the spirit of that
00:43:11
thing you know what I mean like it's got a great finish it's already in the office so I wouldn't need to pay for
00:43:18
it and uh and yeah so I think I think spiritually that is the 12 mini purple finish of uh bizarre uh Android phones I'll just point out all the
00:43:30
differences the 12 mini is one of the smallest phones in the past decade facts uh this phone has a 6.85 in corner to corner 144 HZ 2000 OLED display yeah
00:43:43
it's pretty big it's gorgeous it is huge y yep it's about the size of the battery
00:43:48
I think that's about where it would fit in the corner of the phone jeez uh I will note the iPhone 12 mini also had a
00:43:53
decent camera I don't think this phone going to have that good of a camera that's just a hunch I haven't tested it that much but
00:44:00
use your camera when you're ripping Subway Surfers with your fan on so it doesn't matter there's also no bump so I
00:44:05
imagine small sensors no camera bump at all which is cool make the phone a little thicker and do that but that is a
00:44:13
another difference uh the iPhone has I mean this is a nice purple finish a pretty lilac color not too offensive this phone has text all over the back it's got a big X logo I don't know why
00:44:24
it's not the Twitter logo and it's not the it's not the Snapdragon 8 x Elite logo so what is the X X Games mode it's
00:44:32
probably X Games mode uh it says cooling system on the back it's got the r or it's got the the red magic logo it's got
00:44:39
a it's got a lot it's busy I would say there's another difference see you hold it up like that it reminds me of how the
00:44:47
battery of like the Hummer EV is the size of that's exactly what I was thinking yeah yeah it has a headphone jack yeah and it has a head Ellis likes headphones has
00:44:57
but what do you do about your Apple watch Ellis how much RAM does see this is the this is what this is why they're being sued by the US government but yeah honestly airdrop
00:45:09
would be the thing I miss more than the Apple watch cuz then I can start going to weddings again true it's true the
00:45:15
iPhone 12 mini had four gigs of RAM how much does this one have this one has 24 gigs of RAM just really have 24 gigs of
00:45:22
RAM MH Gamers can't afford this if you're a gamer you cannot afford this I'm sorry this phone might not be too expensive I got to look up but yeah that's that's what's going on big new
00:45:35
batteries new higher battery density new Chips massive new interesting camera stuff those four phones all came out in the last month basically in the US which is pretty cool um and there's also a
00:45:48
phone we're expecting to come out next year which some rumors are starting to spill about a little bit which would be the Galaxy
00:45:54
S2s uh number one I would also expect those to be Snapdragon 8 Elite phones at least here in the US but number two there's a rumor about this keeps coming up G2 yes what is the what is the deal
00:46:07
with G2 in this phone G2 is this happening or not probably there's well it's kind of weird because there's an a
00:46:14
rumor from Ice universe but ice Universe didn't tweet it someone else tweeted that ice Universe said it so I'm very confused about that part but there are so many articles saying ice Universe
00:46:26
says Che and the s25 but all of them are sourcing it from a tweet from someone else so take that
00:46:33
as you may okay what um this is not the first phone with G2 that's the hmd skyline which I'd never heard of until I was it's really weird really it's a badly rated phone okay cool all you need
00:46:46
to know about it is that it tries to do the curved aesthetic in the front but then for some reason it's also Square oh
00:46:53
this is the Windows Phone aesthetic yes yes exactly exactly like look at the screen of it
00:46:59
wait what the which wait I think oh doesn't hmd own uh Nokia yeah and they did the Nokia
00:47:06
Lumia so this is just the same company gu it looks like the front of the pixel fold yeah the first one oh that's but
00:47:13
with like the side one no you're right you're right you're right just the side of it yeah yeah it was not rated very well okay yeah um but yeah so ch2 we've
00:47:23
all been dying about ch2 and then there was a bunch of questions so what was confusing is the GSM Arena article about this said that we don't there's two
00:47:34
profiles for ch2 one called EP and one for MPP but then David found a wired article that explains the difference is
00:47:42
essentially that's extended power profile or magnetic power profile biggest difference is one has a magnet one doesn't have a magnet so everyone on
00:47:49
reddit's like is it going to have the magnets is it not going to have the magnets the magnets is what we really
00:47:55
care about here yeah do you want to read the quote from the article okay so wpcs
00:48:01
Paul golden which I did an interview with when we did our ch2 episode actually he was quoted in this wired
00:48:07
article and this is a quote from him okay he says EP refers to a device that complies with the specification but is not officially ch2 and thus cannot use the logo or be referred to as a ch2
00:48:19
device golden told wired in an email that such devices would carry the chi logo not chi2 and packaging Andor
00:48:26
marketing materials have a required statement that the device not does not contain magnets any device labeled ch2
00:48:33
is MPP which is magnetic power profile and must contain magnets so I remember actually when the hmd skyline came out at first and I everyone was like is this ch2 is it not ch2 because it has the
00:48:47
magnets but it doesn't work with some Chi uh device Chi Chargers and that's because the magnets are in like a different Arrangement or the the Charing coil is in a
00:48:59
place it's confusing effectively if if you have the CH branding if there is the little two right below the chi logo it
00:49:07
will have magnets okay so magnets does not mean chi2 but ch2 does mean magnets correct okay and what will be so I guess
00:49:15
what we're going off of this as is based on what ice Universe saw so if this was
00:49:21
which we don't even know cuz didn't even tweet possibly that if they s the logo somewhere on the phone or the marketing materials if it's a G2 then we should have magnets is what I'm getting from
00:49:33
this that's what the wireless power Consortium who standardizes Chi says and it seems like most leakers are seeing things that are marketing material boxes
00:49:44
like Cad renderings and stuff like that so I'm assuming the reason ice universe is saying Chu is because of seeing one of those things inside of a leak which makes me think they saw the logo which
00:49:55
would mean magnets that would be good I hope so I got plenty of magnetic accessories I just want to see still
00:50:01
think it's one of the best things that every single phone needs not just iPhones yeah for every car out there that doesn't have carplay where you put
00:50:07
your phone up on a magnetic dock it's just been iPhones on those docks so far but I would love to put my
00:50:13
gs25 yeah and phone while it's on there that would be huge be fire okay well I I
00:50:19
hope that comes out um all right well we do want to take one more break we'll be
00:50:25
talking about Sora and some other stuff right after but before we take that last break we got one more trivia
00:50:33
[Music] question trivia dude so we were talking about the Apple watch earlier being allowed at weddings or not but do you remember the Apple watch Edition hell
00:50:44
yeah the gold one the $20,000 18 karat gold Apple watch it ranged in price from 10,000 to what what was the most expensive version of that watch
00:50:56
expensive for a thing that will become outdated and get slow it already is it was outdated less than 12 months after
00:51:01
it was released I remember that cuz I almost did a video I was researching about the fastest outdated products of
00:51:06
all time and I read that the Apple watch Edition was dis it was discontinued like 10 or 11 months later and that was well
00:51:13
they stopped doing the addition gold thing with the next Apple watch like the next year so it's like you just
00:51:21
bought a 10,000 up to up to some crazy number very expensive wow and uh yeah you literally could have just gotten the gold colored one for so much cheaper I think they very shortly started making
00:51:35
gold that's tough I'm trying to remember the price okay well we'll think about that aners at the end like usual we'll
00:51:41
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this video real or a generated who knows who knows I can prove it's real you can prove it's real five fingers all my fingers are moving around normally it also has audio
00:52:59
physics is working audio is a really good sign physics moving things in realistic ways is a good sign okay so
00:53:04
we're real for sure guaranteed but that's day I would say but we just uh we just got sora's official launch this week Sora being open ai's AI video
00:53:17
generating model and we got early access to it we got to publish an exclusive early review of it I prompted it
00:53:25
probably 300 times I did all kinds of stuff I was trying everything I possibly could messing with the features diving around and digging in there a slack thread that had like 200 plus replies in
00:53:37
it and it was all of us just sending you random things to remember when Blue Sky first started and there was like the
00:53:43
hell thread yeah that's what that was for us in our slack it was just one slack thread of like hundreds of videos
00:53:50
I was messing with it and I just put in the slack like hey if anybody wants a video from Sora or wants to like try something just let me know keyboard
00:53:57
started smoking it's just we got we were we were prompting like crazy and we learned a lot of things about it that
00:54:02
it's you know we got we got the hand selected videos before that aop AI showed us but now we got to try our own
00:54:08
stuff and really figure out what it's good at you can uh you can make all kinds of stuff there's obviously the the parameters that you have an open AI you have a chat GPT account and it comes
00:54:20
with the chat GPT Plus account right so if you're paying the 200 bucks a month this is part of it now
00:54:27
which is I think I think that's what it's called Pro for the 200 but let me make
00:54:32
sure oh pro pro Max but anyway yeah we we tried everything it was possibly capable of the headline is that for the $200 a month that chat PT Pro
00:54:44
subscribers are already paying Sora is just now a part of that it's just looped in which I think a lot of people sort of
00:54:51
let's I'll just give you this first and then we'll do it so plus you get 50 videos a month with your $20 a month
00:54:58
Subs like chbd subscription MH up to 720p resolution 5 Seconds duration Pro which is the $200 a month you get up to 500 videos yep unlimited relaxed videos
00:55:11
I have no idea what that means there's a little oh yeah uh relaxed mode lets you cue additional videos to be completed
00:55:17
when the traffic is low okay up to 1080p 20 second duration and five concurrent Generations download without Watermark Jesus Christ um and learn more about everything okay
00:55:30
yeah so that's those are the differences yeah so we'll just start start so I essentially had unlimited free reign of
00:55:35
like a a maximum capable version of this uh and so we're we're putting in our own
00:55:43
prompts instead of just looking at what was provided from the last early look we got early in the year which was
00:55:49
handpicked from open Ai and so we got to figure out more of what it's good at what it's bad at and what it could
00:55:55
actually be used for today so watch that video that is the best way of getting all that information I think the tldr is it's good at abstracts it's good
00:56:08
at uh really really crude like basic title slide type stuff what it's bad at is generally physics Now videos have
00:56:22
moving objects in them that's the the important part and I think when you generate a photo you can get
00:56:28
increasingly good at you know high resolution photo realistic images but a video has things that have to move in
00:56:37
different ways and that is usually the the giveaway of an a generated video is it doesn't know how fast to move something or how to fold things on top of each other or have them like overlap
00:56:48
in front of each other often things with legs moving the legs will switch between each other object permanence is not
00:56:54
really that good like it's not it's not amazing at that stuff but it's still crazy that it's making 1080p 20 second high resolution videos so yeah that's
00:57:05
it's been interesting to watch and it started a lot of conversations in various departments number one about
00:57:11
like still the sources the where where is it trained like how does all this actually come together and is it stealing from people like me who have uploaded YouTube videos I made I made a
00:57:24
prompt that just asked to see Tech reviewer sitting on a desk with a phone in front of two displays and it had this
00:57:31
this plant on the desk the and we've called it the tech reviewer plant like the classic Tech reviewer plant it's not
00:57:38
just us but it's Tech reviewers so maybe not 100% our stuff yeah but I asked for
00:57:45
a tech reviewer you asked for a tech reviewer to put the plant all of us use and uh that video was just publicly
00:57:51
available so my car is publicly available on the street but can't steal it challenge accepted there's there's a lot of questions around that still the other question is um would you even want
00:58:03
this to be good like is this a tool that we're ready to unleash upon the world in the year of 202 and the fact that you
00:58:09
get to remove the watermark with the with the pro subscription is so ridiculous yeah this was funny I was
00:58:15
testing this and it was evolving right under my nose as I was testing it the minimum resolution was 360p and I had
00:58:20
that in my script and I was writing that down and then it was suddenly 480 oh so
00:58:26
so the lowest resolution is 480 now and you can do up to 720 with that account but 1080 is still the Max and the the
00:58:31
lowest resolution videos take 20 seconds to generate if you make a 5-second low reses video the highest resolution 1080p
00:58:39
20 second videos can take three four minutes to generate um I think to some people it wasn't exactly clear that this is all in the cloud like your comp it doesn't matter how fast your computers you can queue up three four five
00:58:51
different ones all at once and it doesn't matter they're just happening on open AI servers uh and it's just there's
00:58:59
like this little moment of thrill when it's done and you get it back and you watch the video that it made and you're like this is crazy this is not a real
00:59:06
video think it's also interesting cuz most of them the first one second is always like impressive and then it like
00:59:13
devolves from there the you did the one where you uploaded the photo of me playing ultimate frisbee right and it's
00:59:19
like me catching one and at first it's like he caught it oh he's coming down that's kind of wait he's rolling on the
00:59:25
ground now he launched 20 ft in the air three legs what's going on yeah yeah so there's a feature where you can upload a
00:59:32
photo and then tell open AI to make a video out of this photo and so the video that you the photo you upload will be the first ter in the video and it'll start to move from there so you can upload a video of a person like standing
00:59:45
still giving thumbs up and it will make a convincing like video of somebody giving the thumbs up but if you give it a moving object like a person flying through the air or even a car or a bird
00:59:59
flying or whatever immediately the physics go nuts and it's typically not very accurate it looks crazy so we did
01:00:07
see that in our testing as well um the one thing that I was most impressed by I would say is simulated drone shots that would be my number one most impressed
01:00:19
thing where if you gave it a landmark or even just a a Terrace that you that you
01:00:25
describe and ask for a drone shot of it it can give you a high up slow moving high resolution landscape drone shot yeah everything you just solved the New Jersey drone mystery it's open AI
01:00:38
knowing they gave you the the exclusive look at it getting they wanted to get as many New Jersey landmarks as possible
01:00:45
for those who aren't aware there's been mysterious drones spotted over drones have you I haven't seen any of them yet I saw them you saw one I was the total non-believer I was making fun of them so
01:00:58
hard for desk and he's like those are planes David what are you talking about I cuz everyone's videos of them just
01:01:05
look like planes and they are like propellerless like unmanned I was making fun of everyone I was like this is so stupid Everyone's an idiot and then I drive home and see three of them go
01:01:17
right over me like pretty low down I'd guess like a little lower than like helicopter height so way too low for
01:01:24
these Plaines m M things to be flying did you hear it I didn't I was in my car ples I don't want to call it a yeah you called no no I did I know I know I am I
01:01:36
am egg on my face I am a I got crushed that day I don't know what they are the FBI is still like oh I'm not scared by any means though cuz the lights are bright and on there not trying to hide
01:01:48
themselves from it I something in our whatever I don't want to go like conspiracy theorist here but I'm I'm not
01:01:54
worried about them I'm where you were I'm like I haven't seen them I don't know seems kind of like a plane to me
01:01:59
but aliens for sure maybe I'll see it anyway yeah so you can make drone shots you can make drone shots with Sora open and we'll pull that off you can watch the video the one with Mount Fuji the
01:02:10
one with El capiton the one with uh the the bay what was that called I forgot this a California landmark but did you try with like Ci by any chance I did one so yes I did one with the Golden Gate
01:02:22
Bridge and it looked decent but the cars on the bridge were going totally the wrong speed so that was giveaway but the
01:02:27
bridge looked incredibly accurate they always drift into the other lane and just like and disappear disappear like
01:02:33
dissolve into each other totally the physics dead giveway the other one uh I did New York City in the fog and I had
01:02:39
the Empire State Building poking through the clouds and I think I showed you that one that one the Empire State Building looked accurate and as I panned out a
01:02:46
little bit I think David pointed out the Chrysler Building nearby also looked accurate but then the rest just looked
01:02:52
like New York City like I couldn't tell you what direction we were facing but it seems to be able to do that too so there
01:02:59
is plenty of blowback from people who are like this sucks I don't want this to exist in the world and I I totally get
01:03:06
that especially the fact that you can they this is another thing they added mid testing is the download without a
01:03:12
watermark button that was not there when I started testing it sh move I feel like
01:03:17
super weird you have to have the pro account to do that um the fact that you can do that at all and you're just this
01:03:24
is a we're going into year where let's just say fake news is a thing people are talking about it's a concern um that the fact that that's real at all is very
01:03:35
concerning for a lot of people that was one of the first videos you sent was like the two newscasters talking and I thought it was real at first glance I
01:03:41
was like oh what video clip is this and you're like no this was the AI dude that clip is we don't they they still they
01:03:48
they have a safety team they have the AGI team at open AI wait they don't open AI no that was the joke they f all of them so here's what I'll give them credit for and I know this is going to
01:03:59
sound like very little to a lot of people but I'll give them credit for this um they seem to be able to identify
01:04:06
and refuse to do certain types of videos so anytime anyone's likeness is involved
01:04:12
they won't do it if you ask for a prompt with someone's likeness it will modify your prompt if you upload a photo with
01:04:18
someone's likeness it will refuse if you upload a photo with someone who appears to be a minor just by a visual ident
01:04:25
identification it will refuse if you ask for any violent or disgusting acts it will refuse and generally I mean I haven't gotten it to do anything that I would
01:04:39
consider objectionable in a way that would like like literally making an actual fake news clip but that clip that
01:04:46
I that was early in the video that that we're talking about is such a perfect representation of this which is at first
01:04:54
glance is looks like a real video and then in 2 seconds you're go oh all the text is garbled like none of this makes any sense but and there's no audio so
01:05:05
it's like they're not saying anything it's just a two second video of some news anchors but it's immediately in
01:05:11
this uncanny valley of I know that this isn't real but if I wasn't checking I might not have noticed and this is the worst it's going to be from here on out and that's a lot to digest I have a
01:05:24
question for you yeah remember when they first announced Sora and they were just you know showing all
01:05:30
these clips that they were generating and obviously open AI is going to Showcase its most believable Clips the
01:05:35
ones that it's really collected to make people think wow this is amazing yep would you say that it feels like they've
01:05:42
improved it since they first announced it especially as a user it's hard to say because we didn't get to use it so I don't know how long those videos took to generate versus now I don't know what
01:05:53
their prompt looked like then versus is now to me or if they like handpicked things behind cuz like we gave them
01:06:00
prompts back then and they gave us stuff that they said was just what it created but we don't we don't know how many
01:06:05
times they adjust the prompt exactly it to me in general seems like it's gotten marginally better at some of the basic
01:06:12
stuff uh we did see it make uh like one or two landscape shots before I got to try way more landscape shots turns out yeah that's a huge highlight it's like pretty good at those but yeah it's hard
01:06:23
to see a trajectory is kind of just launching now kind of feels like they got PR pressured into releasing it
01:06:28
because Runway was getting better Google's imen was coming out right so that's the thing there's a bunch of other there are other image generators
01:06:35
and video generators now that exist yeah and this is one of them this is I you know there's a bunch of channels that
01:06:40
cover this like AI tools as they come out and Sora if I've watched enough videos and I'm judging this correctly
01:06:46
seems like one of the most capable video generation models um but it is like brand new so yeah TBD if there are other
01:06:54
better ones coming out we should also mention men that uh open a had given Early Access of Sora to specific artists
01:07:00
and a lot of them had gotten together and leaked the model online about a week and a half ago MH so that could also be
01:07:08
another reason why open AI decided to release it like if it's already available in a hugging face repository
01:07:14
it was temporarily available got taken down but it's out there on the internet and you can never completely erase something from the internet so yeah
01:07:20
they're doing this like 12 days of ship Miss Thing where they're announcing a bunch of new features so this is like day three or something like that right
01:07:27
so yeah it's it's launched it's out into the world we'll see how it goes how it goes famous last words I will say I looked up some of the like
01:07:38
different places on Reddit people posted our video and I it really feels like there's two camps of how they're
01:07:44
reacting to this is like this is terrible it shouldn't be released into the world it's so dangerous and then the other half a bunch I saw is like this
01:07:51
product sucks it's censoring so many things I can't even do this and this and this so why would I even use it so yeah
01:07:58
it seems like they're striking out on both sides um but well if you strike out with if you if you are successful with one of them you will guaranteed fail with the other because those are the
01:08:09
polar opposite sides of of the camp yeah but yeah I mean they have to be safe as
01:08:14
best as they can I'd be worried that there's no way of making the the side that's like this is dangerous they're
01:08:20
never going to please those people so they're going to want to please the people that are saying you're taking away too many of our things yeah and
01:08:26
make it very capable yes that's terrifying yeah interesting okay I have a question yeah so you were saying that you were trying to like get it to do something questionable and it wouldn't
01:08:37
do it m those are restrictions that open AI has placed on it themselves like with
01:08:43
their UI I'm assuming it's not like an inherent thing in the model that's a good question um this was yeah as far as
01:08:50
I can tell because I'm just a user using the the end that I've been given access to this is UI thing I don't know if that
01:08:59
means I assume the model is capable of lots of things it's just Sora is the UI that is restricting what it's able to do
01:09:05
yeah I'm sure that when you put in a prompt like the language model knows what words it does not want to work with
01:09:12
and so it just changes that to something else or says you shouldn't be able to do it because the whole thing about large language models is it relates words to
01:09:18
each other anyway so you probably don't have to do that much work to kind of like Blacklist certain types of words
01:09:24
you know people going try to break it yeah it's only been a couple days at this point but I guarantee someone is
01:09:29
going to find something crazy that it can do and then there's going to be an article and then there's going to be an update that's what's going to happen
01:09:35
yeah so we we'll see yeah we'll see what that ends up being all right speaking of
01:09:41
AI stuff again uh updates yeah Reddit has just launched its own sort of AI chatbot in a way it's not really a chatbot it's more like a search engine and a chatbot had a baby
01:09:55
um and effectively what they're trying to do here is they're trying to stop people from Googling blah blah blah
01:10:01
Reddit because then Google gets to eat up that ad revenue and Reddit obviously wants to keep people on their site as
01:10:07
long they already make that deal with Google though so they made a deal with Google where Chrome was the only browser
01:10:13
that's able to index Reddit after August of 2024 which in my opinion should be the
01:10:22
most antitrust thing that they're going after right now because Reddit is is like the number three website in the world or something mhm so anyway uh what
01:10:29
this new Reddit AI answers engine is is it is a thing called Reddit answers and you go on the page and it gives you a bunch of examples where you can just ask different questions like what's the best
01:10:41
vacuum cleaner or what should I do if I want to change my hair color to this Etc
01:10:47
you go on there and it basically gives you a list of generated answers but with direct hyperlinks to the conversations and it doesn't say you should do this it
01:10:58
says in this thread people say that this this this this this yeah so Reddit I think okay whether or not this is like a a good I don't love chat Bots you know but whether or not this is a good thing
01:11:11
I think Reddit went about it the right way actually where they're not actually saying we the Reddit chatbot we Reddit
01:11:17
the organization says you should eat five rocks a day it's going to Source its answers it sources the answers and
01:11:23
says but but in a very direct way and says people in this thread say this and then you can click that button go to the
01:11:30
thread and it'll talk about all those things very smart from them honestly if they can get people to actually use the
01:11:37
service um it is actually quite well formatted and I think it's more like a competitor to Google than it is a chat B it's not available yet right I have access to it can I see it well you're at
01:11:50
least I did early I didn't I don't think I'm I have a button that says keep me updated so it down they didn't like give
01:11:56
you access cuz no I have access to it right now no I mean is that just because you're a tech reporter though no no I
01:12:02
don't know anyone who read it but they know you well they don't know my sometimes they just know you I don't know well that's weird I have access to
01:12:08
can I try real quick yeah sure can I ask you guys a question while this cuz this is something I've been thinking about lately when you're on Reddit when we are
01:12:16
on Reddit M how do you determine how trustworthy a comment should be that's a great question like when you're reading a Reddit post and someone in the comments is like here is information
01:12:29
yeah what is your what is your personal veracity test I mostly take everything with a grain of salt and then I do Google off of that information it's the same way that I would use like gemini or
01:12:41
something like that it'll tell me something and I use that to go Google other things but I don't just believe what it says right and if they don't
01:12:48
provide links that's not necessarily a red flag for you that's a red flag okay it helps if they provide links it helps
01:12:55
I would say the more discourse there is based on the comment that I found like cuz it's really easy to just have a comment that's upvoted that could be botted who knows it's a small thing it
01:13:07
could just be like a comment and then a bunch of people saying that's great that also could be boded but if there's like
01:13:12
legitimately like multiple trees of conversations coming off of it then I at least get like a gauge of knowing that
01:13:20
that's 15 or 20 people that might be part of a conversation or even if it's not 100% true there might be useful
01:13:26
information in there yeah yeah for sure totally that's another really Point that's generally how I look at Reddit threat you guys should give me a prompt
01:13:32
and I'll do this it wouldn't do is Steve Huffman a giant loser I guess it's too easy of a question it's
01:13:39
yes I was going to say typically if it has a lot of outputs I just believe it ask
01:13:45
it ask should Andrew when is the correct application for a multi-band compressor
01:13:51
versus a dynamic equalizer okay Mar what about you how do how do you determine what's true so okay yeah context is everything if if I know enough of the context already like if
01:14:02
I'm in a subr I've been in a lot and I know the poster or I know something about this already then it's kind of
01:14:08
like asking AI it's like a confirmation of what I already knew if it's something totally new then I'm let David I'm
01:14:14
taking that information and then either following the source links or going and Googling myself I almost all the
01:14:20
subreddit is really important um cuz like with SEO having link on Reddit is really important and there's lots of subreddits out there that are literally for people to just post links to increase SEO um so if you can get into a
01:14:33
subreddit you know is already like active it has upvotes in that it has comments in that that's a good sign that it's real people talking about also know how to sort because if you're looking
01:14:45
for something that is like the best recommendation for something then often the most upvoted one is a good place to look but if you're looking for something
01:14:52
that has not been tried before then sorting by controversial might be better yes no I remember in like 2012 when I first got on Reddit and I was so excited about it because I like this is such a
01:15:03
good system if people are up voting it it'll bubble to the top and that just means you get quality information but
01:15:09
there's a thing called the hive mind on Reddit which is where if most people think a certain way you are more likely to think that way so I have I have experienced this myself before where
01:15:20
I've gone to some sort of question and I see something that's very highly upvoted and I go to upvote it without even
01:15:26
really reading much of it and then I go whoa hold on let me read this next people want to be part of groups and so they they go to think and do the way
01:15:37
that the general group of people thinks and does so you really need to make sure
01:15:42
that you're uh you're taking your time there I just did Ellis's question and rdit answers when is the corrupt
01:15:47
application for a multiband compressor versus a dynamic equalizer is this one that has a a definitive answer it has a
01:15:53
pretty definitive answer but is I thought it would be a good one because there are things that are like absolutely true about that question and
01:15:59
then there are finer flavor like taste skill very Niche trade stuff okay and I so I only I wanted to ask that question also because my answer to the question I asked you guys how do you determine I I
01:16:10
don't have a great answer and I thought you guys had really good things but one hard rule that I follow on Reddit is
01:16:15
that if someone ever begins a comment with insert occupation here answer you are lying like I have never ever ever doctor here exactly I've never ever ever
01:16:28
read an audio thing where someone began a question audio engineer here or answer audio engineer here and then gave even
01:16:35
one correct piece of information ever and I just feel like there's a lot of people on Reddit I feel like actual
01:16:42
professionals would never do that yeah you know what I mean I would never be like hi this is my job so um so I just I
01:16:50
worry about this bot being unable to uh determine the difference but they wasn't
01:16:55
terrible again at least it's not just an llm that is making up a bunch of random
01:17:01
stuff based on a giant data set like at least it's taking from Reddit itself and
01:17:07
then directly linking to everything that it says so I think that's that's an inherent strength because it's it's
01:17:12
Reddit so it's only looking at Reddit yes so if you Google and you're looking at the entire internet that could be a
01:17:19
pro sometimes but is actually harder to sort through and if you're Gemini and you're not linking back to sources it's
01:17:26
almost less useful where with Reddit you are just looking through Reddit so if you're going to give me an answer or
01:17:32
even summarize it with an llm fine but link me back to where you got it from because I know it's from Reddit find me
01:17:38
where you got it from yes so it's doing that and again you should take everything you read on Reddit with a giant grain of salt as well but you
01:17:44
should also just feel that way about most of the things that you consume on the internet so is the part of this
01:17:50
that's AI just the language like you're typing into the box for the search because the rest of it just seems like a
01:17:56
search engine like if it's seedit notoriously basically hasn't had for its entire existence Google search engine for a long time and just it like just narrowed it the beginning of Reddit they
01:18:07
had a search a search bar when you would search something it would just do a Google search but narrow narrow it to
01:18:13
reddit.com yeah so which is how most people use Google anyway I'm sorry Adam I cut you off not most people that was
01:18:19
it that was my question okay yeah yeah it feel it does feel more like a search engine with some an
01:18:25
engine stuff in it so potentially helpful potentially interesting I think that if they mixed this in with their search bar and they also like gave you
01:18:36
suggested subreddits and stuff based on what you were searching that would probably be the way for them to go can
01:18:42
you type in there why do you have access and none of us do why do I have well what if it revokes my access why I have
01:18:48
access to you have access I mean there's a strong possibility that like eight months ago I signed up for Early Access and just don't remember all right speaking of more AI
01:19:02
stuff again remember when we used to talk about talk about we talked about like going to weddings and stuff before in the past iOS 18.2 is officially out
01:19:14
in its stable version this brings things like gen mooji yes yes chat gbt integration uh
01:19:22
image playground um um so if you have been waiting to use gen mooji or chat jpt integration this is out very cool I have an immense amount of thoughts about gen mooji that we do not have time to talk
01:19:36
about on this podcast really about gen mooji yeah I have thoughts about you having thoughts about gen Emoji what's
01:19:42
that how could there be that much to oh cuz it's not an emoji it's a sticker it's a sticker do you want my rant about this or no okay here's what I think gen mooji is okay it's just an AI image
01:19:55
generator who adds in the style of an emoji to the end of every image prompt wait but it doesn't come up as an emoji
01:20:01
it's a sticker so okay all right one minute get them on the CL I can probably do this in one minute I can probably s
01:20:07
yeah okay so an emoji is text right it's it's basically a pointer to this giant database that Unicode standardizes okay
01:20:15
now a gen Emoji is actually what Apple labels as a sticker Apple stickers are things that have existed in iMessage and other things in Apple for a long time time but now G and gen mudi are also
01:20:27
stickers they reduced the size of stickers to be the same size as gen oh that was not a minute right that wasn't a minute no it wasn't 30 seconds but this is still part of it okay they
01:20:38
reduce the size of stickers to be the same size as emoji and so gen Emoji are also the sizes of emoji and apple used a
01:20:45
special type of image generator that basically only is trained on the Apple emoji character set right so it skews
01:20:53
everything to look like an apple style Emoji they also introduced a new API called Dynamic image glyph API which makes Emoji gen emoji and stickers all
01:21:06
act the same way previously Emoji only work uh Emoji are the only things that could be used in line with text because they are text now with this new API that they're introducing gen emoji and
01:21:19
stickers can also be used in line with text unless you are texting an Android phone perfect in which case RCS just got borked because a j Emoji because it is
01:21:30
trained on the Apple emoji character set is inherently looks like an Apple emoji
01:21:35
yeah when you send that to an Android phone it just appears as a giant PNG yeah it's actually a tiny PNG it's a
01:21:42
horrible tiny PNG it's bad well it's a big PNG is it yeah I've I've gotten it from I guess when I did my text sample thread it was just like a tiny little at least I didn't click on it and zoom in
01:21:53
maybe it was bigger but it was a small PNG it didn't look great I texted my sister uh gen emoji of a pumpkin devil
01:22:01
and this is how it came out on her phone wow just enormous taking up the entire maybe they've changed it since then I
01:22:07
guess the 18.2 update has comeing well this is when I this is when it first came out oh I did when I did that video
01:22:12
it was like I sent it to an Android phone and it was but on your iPhone was it cuz on the iPhone iPhone it's huge
01:22:19
it's bigger than usual yeah but then on the Android phone it's even bigger oh my Android phone had a tin with black with
01:22:25
a black background with a black background well either way okay yeah you can it's it's another way of hooking you
01:22:31
into the IM message thing yeah so but I also think that being able to generate more images to express yourself is better so there sort of this they're
01:22:42
sort of this back and forth you know what I mean okay yeah that was a good solid 90 seconds thanks times four that
01:22:50
was not okay that was not n six minutes anyway whatever in the video I'm going to have a real timer going and the the viewer and listener will know place your bets how long is that timer anyway if
01:23:01
you want to try that out you should update your phone you should always update your phone anyway if you're my dad please update your phone all right
01:23:07
update your phone y'all well I think that's it for this week we talked about everything and then everything in between there's only one thing left to
01:23:14
do what [Music] trivia 2025 that pause is going to get longer and longer until the last episode
01:23:25
is going to be a two-minute pause a onee pause get it if you can get it like two
01:23:31
minutes long we can just put an ad break in there yeah exactly question number one you can now get a Hyundai on Amazon or soon can get H now right now right
01:23:42
now right now I know what I'm doing after work today um but uh uh this not the first time really expensive stuff has ever been sold on Amazon so I'm going to lead you three Amazon listings
01:23:56
that are real they are links you can visit right now and you have to tell me which one is the most expensive hit it
01:24:05
atam number one quick simple easy seq fully equipped double story two bedrooms prefab expandable container house 40 ft x 20 ft luxury home stairs included free
01:24:16
bed set with Terrace listing number two Queen Victoria Banco de LR e Mexico 1,000 pesos 1905 dated stock certificate
01:24:28
with dividend coupons attached uncancelled I don't know what uncanceled means the way of Bashir artist expressionist gafur
01:24:40
tanov which is the most pricey and I think for this one I'm going to have all three of you read your answers and then I'm going to tell you
01:24:53
the prices are we ready mhm I'm ready flip all right who would like to re D we all put
01:25:05
different answers that's exciting the same oh so I put the fake money the fake no it's real money real money it's real money it's just old I think the old money costs a lot of new money you know how much that's depreciated by now uh or
01:25:20
they appreciation yeah put that yeah but it's really old I also put the peso peso peso
01:25:29
I put the the way the all right everybody the house the quick simple two-story prefab house with with stairs with stairs included
01:25:43
$44,100 the Hyundai cost more than that one star the pesos the pesos chons are 23 250,000
01:25:56
is there only one quantity available or I what do you mean like is there only one in existence yeah at all available
01:26:03
on Amazon can you buy three or something yeah well cuz like the house you prob there's probably multiples of those
01:26:09
available how are in St somehow this listing has 11 ratings so and does it have a qu a quantity yeah in stock oh yeah you weren't joking okay wow our
01:26:22
painting the way by gaer tanov let's go goes on Amazon there's a buy now button for 32 million giving David let's go the points
01:26:36
clest thought going buy now so you can just click that do not click it wait a minute buy now I need the I need a dash button for for that painting crazy not a
01:26:48
prime item so you will have to wait till after Christmas goes by stocking stuff just
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shows up with USBS also uh just a quick quick side note uh a few weeks ago two weeks ago maybe Adam switched back to iPhone and he texted me like at night like hey just to be like it's a blue
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bubble and I like free I was like oh my God you're back like I can finally send you and that's why I was doing all the
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like inline message animations and sending them all sorts of stuff and I was like and I could finally do this too
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and I sent him like the venmo widget request for $100,000 you Adam thankfully I did not click it okay quick update on the score Marquez
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with one Andrew zero one two yeah one we back with zero David with two it's so over oh man so next question speaking about the
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Apple watch the Apple watch Edition was goldplated I think it was just goldplated right I don't know I don't
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know whatever it was ranging in price from $110,000 for the base model to what how much and closest without going over make it interesting me they probably
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have the same amount of gold so they're probably not that different in price it's probably like
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10,200 I do think that the the differentiator between this model was like a special band like a leather clasp with gold or whatever
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okay but how much was that entire I honestly don't know if I'm way too high over or way too low under I same exactly what Johnny I've wanted flip him and read what do you got I I think you might
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okay I think might be I originally thought it was 120 Grand but I put $28,000 And1
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nope I put $20,000 nope I put $80,000 nope all way over it was $177,000 watch we found a way for no one
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to get the point so probably came with like an Hermes band or something Point wow that's a did it come with an an
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Hermes band I don't know probably sure yeah yeah probably sounds like it cool damn yeah well there goes my chance to catch David I got really excited when you made David second I was like I
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nailed it 80 grand baby okay well that was a lot that was a fun episode it was all real I promise nothing was ad generated this week this week but next
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