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does anyone need WWA WWA oh not
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got to that's the show intro right that's totally
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it yo what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your host I'm
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Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David and today we're gonna play play is it a game
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oh we call it a game we we're going to run through we're going to have a session of we're going to do a thing
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where we have half now I'm confused headlines and a hat we're going to do headlines and a hat today which is great
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we've got a whole bunch of stuff about blue sky we've got Final Cut updates I've got um I'm also on the fence about
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a laptop decision maybe we'll jump into that with Final Cut but also a new Eevee company and more goodies uh but first I
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do think it's worth having a conversation about sponsors because of the last week or it was the beginning of
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this week uh we put a video on the main channel uh DJI a DJI I always say that
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too fast DJI video uh with the action cam 5 Pro and it was a full sponsored
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video and the reactions were very strong um I think obviously the the main thing
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or the the extra thing on top of that was I did something very dumb in the video uh with the car with driving so
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that was cut out of the video and rightfully people were very mad about that but aside from that the whole
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conversation about sponsored videos sort of comes up every once in a while and I think it's kind of interesting and maybe
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worth revisiting maybe not but I think it is uh kind of interesting that basically I look back at the history of
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the the channel past couple years just to see what the rough frequency is what the Cadence is we've done roughly one
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sponsored video per year and one fully sponsor one fully sponsored video and I think there is some Nuance to it because
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we've talked about sponsors before on the show on this channel on other channels and there are different types
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of sponsorships there are mid roles there are end roles that are like right
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at the end of a video there are pre-rolls there are full sponsored videos there are sponsored segments
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inside of videos right so there's a whole bunch of different versions of a sponsored video um and we've tried to
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mix it up but I think here's my main takeaway um from doing a sponsored video
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in the current YouTube climate that we're in which is is I'll ask you guys a question what do
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you think is the ideal sponsor to say yes to because we've we've accepted a
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couple sponsors and we've also said no to 99.9% of the things I show up in our inbox what makes the ideal sponsor to
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say yes to is that Theo Bell chime that's a great example because you can speak to
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why Taco Bell would be a good sponsor if I know the answer you're looking for and I also understand the issue with that
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being the answer what you're going to say is it's something you genuin you like and enjoy and outside of being paid
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for it you think is a good product right I think I'm assuming that's what you're looking for that's about what I would
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say yeah is that what does that make sense yeah that's yeah the and I but at the
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same time I 100% see that it can seem untrustworthy to say hey I really like
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this product but I'm also getting paid for it and um I do think that's one of the reasons we picked this
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as one of the you know I think you said the last sponsored video was insta 360 and September 2022 that was the last
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sponsored video Yeah fully sponsored video of like a single product and so when DJI came to us with this we've been
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using the DJI action cameras for a while Ellis and I used it to go in third person like over a year ago they're
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pretty cool and one of the main reasons we could do it in that video is cuz it has this like uh really neat feature of
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being able to plug in and I'm also going to preface this we did just get paid by DJI so even everything I'm saying now
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should be taken with a grain of salt totally in any way shape or form but it had this like webcam feature that was
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totally plug andplay and that's how we were able to just plug it in and go third person yeah um so we've been using them for a little while but we liked the
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product we thought it had a couple cool features and we looked back to see the last time we did an action cam video and
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it was 10 years ago funny enough it was being a dog in 4k with a GoPro a video
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that people thought was sponsored because like at the end of it you put the GoPro logo I was inspired by the
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GoPro commercials and I put like the like action thing at the end yeah yeah um so yeah I 100% see why no matter how
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much you like a product if you get paid for it it seems disingenuous um and there's no real way to prove that you
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actually like the product there yeah yeah and I think in general it it kind of uh especially when the channel
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reviews a lot of products it just isn't the look anymore to do a video I think
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the Nuance basically is lost that it's not a review I think that's what it comes down to I think a lot of people watched that video and thought two
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things one um because this is an ad I cannot trust anything that is said so even though I actually have a lot of
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plans to like record more things outside the studio and do all sorts of other things uh with cameras that aren't the
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red in the studio uh that just kind of gets ignored because it's a sponsored video and people want to focus on that
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and I totally get it and then if you do other videos that are in a
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similar style people no longer know if they're sponsored even if you're extremely clear about disclosing it and
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follow every rule to the tea the best you possibly can so I think my learning is like okay yeah fully sponsor videos I
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think I think I'm done with those and I think we still have lots of ways of integrating sponsors that we really
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believe in their products and like actually like and use in ways like we do here on the podcast and like and we do
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on the studio Channel and like we've done with midal and dope Tech and all sorts of other fun places and things
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that are unobtrusive to the regular content we're putting out I think like doing these end roll things is kind of
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something that we've fought with um advertisers on or like different companies with pretty hard and are
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definitely taking a hit in terms of what we're getting paid because we'd rather put it at the end of a video than the beginning of a video because it
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interjects less um into things but um yeah no matter what we
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say and I get like you should take every single content creator like with a grain
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of salt on anything that they say that should just be like kind of how you tackle anything in media at all and um
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the only thing we can do is try and prove our trust which we haven't been doing the best of job lately but I still
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truly believe that we're a trustful organization yeah um I think I also I
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watch a lot of YouTube I watch a lot of YouTube and I actually watch when people do Integrations in their videos I know
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most people probably don't they probably them but I watch them I watch a lot of videos and my least favorite type of um
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integration is when it like interrupts or it just like hard cuts and shifts to
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a ad read that doesn't feel like the Creator cares about it at all or or
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actually cares about the integration or wants to make it entertaining or anything like that you do see that
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sometimes and I think a good a good integration is the opposite of that so I
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still think that that's true and I think that there's good ways to do that but that's uh that's something I keep noticing is I I I wish ads were better
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which is the general uh Evergreen statement nobody loves ads but that's uh
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that's something I noticed if anyone was looking at the action 5 after that
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and is worried that it's a sponsored thing there's a bunch of really good content directly comparing it to the
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GoPro Hero 12 and hero 12 now I believe and the new insta
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360 I forget the name of it but um there's some really good ones out there and I watched like all of them um but
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yeah that's I think the end of that unless anyone else has anything to add
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to I also think we kind of messed up with the title but yeah exactly I think there was a world where we just called
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it a DJI action cam 5 showcase and that was it um the video that I made I didn't
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want to just I think if you're a sponsor who makes a product you want a a video to look kind of like a review I I wanted
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the opposite of that I should be very clear that it's not a review so I did a video talking about different ways to use this camera and obviously talked
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about the features um but yeah I wanted to also title it in a way that included
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that stuff which ended up I think yeah being a mistaken it shifted too far towards people thinking it was kind of
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bity like oh you're talking about like a big update where it's just a video about a camera so that is totally fair uh uh
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but we do have we do have other things to talk about that we can jump into yeah now we can get into headlines in a hat
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who wants to go first whose hat is this what do you mean whose hat is this why do we have that hat it's zoro's it looks
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like it but Zoro doesn't work here so I'm just kind of wondering yes anyway uh okay yeah we can
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just jump in start with headlines in a hat you're going first am I you're picking out of your own hat I feel like
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that's bad luck you want to go first David okay David go first pick any headline all right I got Mariah's new
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video um this headline comes to us from youtube.com Mariah herself the video
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editor here at the studio uh just launched her first video on her personal YouTube channel and it is about the very
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unhinged really really old menus that are all stored in like the same place
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yeah there's some someone who collected a bunch of old menus throughout the years and it's in a New York Public
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Library I think and she went through them and it is fascinating and wild and
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she did a great job did you go watch it I know you did it's not linked anywhere I should oh I will link it in our
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slacker after we will link it in the description but she does a great job at like going through these old menus and providing context of what the times were
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like when that happens and then I think at the end she visits one of the places that's still around uh Del Monaco's
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steakhous it's been around for like 100 years years I I went to Del monos a few weeks ago and um I did not know she was
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working on this video so I just sent her a picture of one of the really old menus in the in the she's like how did you
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know I was like how do I know what that's awesome steak's pretty good no it's a really really good video we'll
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link it um but if you have any interest in food or just history it's well worth
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the watching Mar has a very um unhinged but also what creative what do you mean
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Mariah is completely hinged all the time right yeah anyway it's a it's a fun video you
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should go watch it you want to do next hat one more before ad break okay H
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problem is if we get one of the long ones here I'll try have a yeah try and pick the short one I don't even know
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what that is let me try a better snare drum roll hold on here we go that was all right oh USBC MIDI
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controller okay I got this one did you see this yeah I checked I read the script before the show okay do you want
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to explain it then cuz I was going to explain it to you to see what you thought I'd be happy to explain the
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zairo okay I'll I'll start explaining it and then Ellis you can jump in
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okay no it's not Thunderbolt 5 um an Italian startup is working on this USBC
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accessory for mobile devices that basically looks like if you plug the Vape into like the bottom of an iPhone
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and then it can you can blow into it and then use controls on the screen to essentially create a
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I don't know how to use the term midi if I'm being honest but a midi wind instrument does that make sense so it's
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like you can changeed the sound of the instruments and then through blowing through it and using the different
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controls like a regular wind instrument now your phone becomes a wind instrument you know what's really funny it's always
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really hard to explain to people how midi works and what it is but in in this
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room and with our audience specifically I can relate it to something even more nerdy and Arcane that that all nerds
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actually know about which is the way keyboards work with ISO standards where
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when you hit a key on your keyboard it's sending just like a number to your
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computer right and then your computer goes like Oh what language am I looking at what what font is selected right now
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and then it actually pulls the character right but there's this transference of information between rote number on a
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keyboard to perceived experience by human being right and that is exactly
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how MIDI works like midi is an information for storing the notes when they're played how loud they are and how
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long each note is and then you send that to an instrument that ingests that and spits out musical tones and so through
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this controller it's using the breath being able to judge how long it is
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potentially how loud it is because of the amount that you're blowing into it yes and and the finger buttons that
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you're pressing on your phone will tell you what notes it is and then you could plug this into a or wirelessly hook this
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up to a computer and control any instrument in any audio software with it
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um but yeah it seems pretty nifty I would like to try it for those of you that don't know I uh play wind instruments so I would really like to
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try this there so there is like an established version of this it's called the ewe which stands for electronic wind
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instrument it's like been around since the ' 80s uh but this thing seems pretty cool how much was that the ewe different
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people make different ones it's not like one thing it's like it's like a family that people compete on I think right now
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the cheapest ones are in the 3 to 400 range and the most expensive ones are in the $1,200 but that's like a whole inst
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like a physical instrument that you hold so what's cool is z not Ziro art Tino
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Aro is the company I think the zafiro is the name of the product so the zapiro is
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sort of like the the Mini version of art noise's Flagship product which is the
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mouthpiece attached to a full recorder so that you can play it like a recorder
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or play it like a digital instrument which I think is like a really Co sick uh education tool but yeah I'm curious
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about this when I first saw it I was like David knows what I'm talking about do you remember
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um smle is that the company um that that made all the like OG iOS music apps oh
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and they had an ocara app oh yeah do you remember this where you like you'd blow on the microphone of your iPhone 3 GS
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and like that's like and like play and so like I'm sure this sensor is probably
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better than just blowing on the microphone but it does seem like uh it's a similar thing so yeah if I got my
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hands on it I would I would totally play it play it for you guys Flex my saxophone and flute skills um I will
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note that this is a new Kickstarter with very it it has passed its goal of of
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backing but just for context on like what it is SL isn't it's not shipping
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yet right we're hoping it becomes real that's what I do think because of the
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really when's the last time you saw a Kickstarter where the goal was $5,000 all the time really most
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kickstarters are super well there's a lot of companies now that totally have the funding to just make a product but
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for some reason they launch on Kickstarter first it feels like a pre-order process where like it's most
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likely ready to go but like let's do the safest pre-order way possible um and
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that's what this is you were mentioning $400 for a full instrument I know this is not the same but this is about 50
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bucks which is pretty awesome right it is it is awesome uh you know the the
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ones the $400 ones are are professional for sure yeah for people who are you know have real music jobs I feel like
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that costs more than an actual instrument 400 yeah yeah depends well my
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trone didn't cost that much my Ocarina was I have a really nice if that's how
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you feel don't ever look up how much a professional bassoon costs a trombone is $150
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$250 I guess that's like it's like maybe instruments are like I don't want to say
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watches but they're kind of like cars in that the
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price to Performance ratio that you can aim for is widely varied based on price
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range you can get a $20,000 you can get a $5,000 car you can get a $5 million
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car and there will be differences yeah but then also Marquez remember that a lot of instruments are made of wood
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which introduces a whole another factor of yeah I was looking at Brass where where where was this wood cultivated
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what year was this tree cut down because that's going to affect the density of the W the harmonic distribution of the
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wood anyway I enough Ellis music tile I to say triple base Ocarina for $2,000
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all right we're off the we're off the deep end this thing seems really if you're interested in learning how to play a recorder which is people joke
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about it but the recorder is a really great way to get your first musical experiences I I think this could be a
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cool thing for you and then also if you're interested in going from something like the recorder to producing
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music and logic or Ableton it does seem like you can use the zapiro as a
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controller for that so if you get good at recorder now you can make sick beats with the recorder the recorder to DJ
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pipeline yeah it's real anyway thank you Andrew for giving me the chance to talk about instrum music you're welcome let's
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hit the Hat yeah we should take a quick break we have we do have time for a break but we also have time for
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trivia trivia so we were just talking about midi H question about midi for you it
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stands for musical inter Instrument digital interface so that's not the question that I'm going to give you can you just play a song in MIDI and we
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guess what song it is no you can't that was the whole thing is you can't play midi yeah midi is just like notes it's just the information it's like saying
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can it's like trying to damn it did my expain it it'd be like it'd be like typing on a keyboard not connected to a
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computer and then being like read this all right let's start the over play the music oh
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sorry challenge don't trigger LS oh my God okay impossible the question Ellis
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mentioned that midi has veloc I didn't yeah you did no I didn't I
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don't think he said that you said it has this this and velocity no I said I guys
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I said I said it's it's the length of the note and it's how loud the note is which is velocity but I didn't use the
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word velocity you're too smart we need to leave this all
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in for the third time this is the hardest level of the challenge getting the value of velocity in MIDI ranges
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from zero to what ooh that is the question we're all going to guess the same thing and we're all going
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to be wrong oh man well I'm writing it anyway I think it's right well it's for later okay well we're going to think
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about it if you want to think about it you can think about it too the answers will be at the end like usual we'll be right
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[Music] form all right welcome back we have more headlines it's the same hat but here you
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can see there's headlines in the Hat Andrew pick a headline let's talk about it you looked at that one I did and then
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I I can't read it it's okay I have the Scout Motors EV uh I saw some some posts
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about people fawning over this thing we had a lot of people say why didn't you talk about this last week all right let
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me look into it right now in real time yeah I'll give you the quick breakdown the early break down so Scout motors
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which I was not aware of this because I believe it was before any of us were born was an old an older Legacy car
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manufacturer they stopped producing it in 1980 oh I can see where this is going you were around back then weren't you
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get out of here Adam um well they're back now as a new EV startup but they
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are under the VW group so like it VW owns them okay so we have like a little
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more backing than our regular uh like Lordstown uh you know startup section
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but um they just announced their new truck the Terra and the traveler SUV both of these vehicles are sitting on an
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EV platform that they created that they're not using from VW they're making their own EV platform like battery base
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um just different types on the top claims could be starting under $60,000 but it's not going to be produced till
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2027 so who on Earth knows if that price also every single time we hear a price from a car manufacturer it's 30 to 40%
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higher when it actually pretty much even like some of them like rivan launched with the high price it said and then
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still was like no they jacked it by 30 right yeah but like they they like launched and had all the pre-orders in
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and like paid for and then tried to put it up and yeah not a great but um yeah SUV and a Truck they are um extremely
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similar to another company owned by V or partnered with VW now which is rivan
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yeah they look just like rivan actually I believe the rivan partnered ship pretty much just went through its first
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stages of the like billion dollar loan that there and it's like 5 billion over the next X amount of years um and they
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do say that like part of this could potentially come from that VW is
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licensing rivan zonal Hardware design um so we probably are going to see some
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rivan uh similar things in here and probably in the software as well um and
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they do look this is an r1s and an r1t pretty much with yeah instead of
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circular lights they're like bar lights SL or like slots yeah um but yeah scout
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used to be this kind of like utility is off-road fun sporty type of like vehicle
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and they're focusing a lot on that one really interesting thing about it is these will have a gas powered battery
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generator for extra range where there is a fuel tank but all it does is run a
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motor that charges the battery and I'm assuming this will mostly just be used for if they're talking about off-road
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that much like if you're really going off-road actually off-roading and might need extra range or you like ran out of
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range and then you needed to charge the battery to get to the charger like if I'm stuck in traffic on the Jersey Turnpike okay I'm intrigued I mean I'm
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I'm scrolling through this website this website is extremely elaborate and probably costs as much as the car this
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is super it cost more than the car cuz it doesn't this is a crazy elaborate website so shout out to them for the
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website but um I'm scrolling through I'm looking at the pickup truck specs body
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on frame it says pure electric models offer up to 350 Mi of range and then the extended range models offer 500 mil of
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range or more through the built-in gas power generator so fun fact we're testing an EV or a hybrid right now
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that's doing the exact same same thing it's called the leeauto L9 that has a gas generator it's the new it's the
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other one not the mega oh yeah so the L9 outside has uh I think it's like 1,000
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km of range when you or like 1,400 km combined but it's always driving from the electric drivetrain the battery just
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either charges up via regen and plugging in or the gas power generator so you're
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always driving on the instant throttle and the efficiency that comes from the electric drive train built in but with a
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little bit of piece of mind that if you need to go you don't have to plug in you can just fill up with gas and the generator can get you some more range
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it's a I like that idea it's cool um there are others that do that as well the other question mark is like okay is
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this is this company going to actually figure out how to manufacturer these and ship them question mark by 2027 we'll
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see uh if they can execute on it like they did on this website it's going to be an incredible Tru yeah I need to you
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are not kidding about this website it starts with a video which is like I'm not always huge into videos but when you
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scroll down and the cars drive at you based on your scrolling and then swap
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into the old scout yeah that is Prett serious level of whoever is the web
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designer there shout out this is incredible we'll know where all the money went when they don't deliver these
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cars yeah this Reserve Now button down here might be going straight into this uh internet or the website design really
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serious oh my goodness so when you go to reserve you can buy the electric only
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version up to 350 Mi of range or you can buy the electric and gas version and
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it's $100 and it is refundable into your order is confirmed options and pricing
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may change I think yeah I I I see the rivan comparison for sure a lot of the colors look like rivan a lot of the shapes a
00:27:16
lot of the general Vibes of outdoorsiness and Adventure look like rivan so that's great people love that I
00:27:23
mean this truck looks like a rivan from the side yeah from the side like every shape of the every part of it pretty much so yeah the
00:27:30
question is like do you think this will get there or do you think Ford will make the Bronco electric first like what's G
00:27:37
to do what's going to happen first who knows but I like it it's cool I think Ford will announce the electric Bronco
00:27:42
before the ships and then just who ships first yeah cuz I remember the rivan was announced
00:27:47
and the Cyber truck and they was kind of like which one will come first the rivan came out first and then the Cyber truck
00:27:52
came out after so people were just kind of like trying to pick between them people meaning me um so it's curious to
00:28:00
see like is are people going to put money down for the Scout 100 bucks kind of nothing so they can just sort of drum up reservations and attention and that's
00:28:07
great but then yeah what happens between now and when they ship we shall see I
00:28:12
don't do you think Ford's going to do an electric Bronco I thought recently they were like kind of cutting back on some
00:28:17
of their EV stuff and I wonder if the bronos is going to be I think they should do a Maverick cuz that's so I
00:28:24
think there's a couple things in their lineup that would be awesome as eeve or h both of those I think the Maverick I
00:28:30
think the Bronco uh and I think the audience of people who like the Maverick and the Bronco and associated with the
00:28:37
outdoorsiness that the Scout is trying to have there's like a big overlap there yeah I here's my I was talking about
00:28:44
this with Miles the other day you know how the Silverado has the and I know this isn't just the new Silverado eeve they did it in the Avalanche I think
00:28:51
where the like what do you call it where the wall behind the back seat yeah yeah midgate midgate Maverick would be
00:28:58
awesome because like it's smaller it's not an absolutely absurd sized truck but
00:29:04
I'm assuming the bed of the truck would be a about the size of like a Tacoma if not to mention that's some fire
00:29:09
alliteration right there midgate Maverick midgate Maverick that's kind of sick do you know what the size of the
00:29:14
Maverick bed is probably about four or five feet 4.5 foot but it doesn't matter
00:29:20
because everyone who owns a Maverick is not using the bed no we know the data's we have the
00:29:27
data people who own trucks do not do truck stuff we know for a fact for the most part don't lie F-150s by the most
00:29:34
part are um Family haulers exactly but you know what would be even cooler than
00:29:39
an electric Maverick what if we brought back the '90s Ford Ranger and Electrify
00:29:46
that thing yeah if you want to talk about bringing back old things and electrifying them I got something for
00:29:52
you wait were you here for the F150 the old F-150 EV no you
00:29:58
the F1 100 I so mad I missed that I'm talking about the Ford Ranger is a
00:30:04
pickup truck the size of a thimble you can fit it in your wallet it's so small and this is what we need uh like it only
00:30:11
has two seats yeah there are multiple configurations across the 90s but this thing is cute and puny that would never
00:30:18
is this not that much what is this size compared to a a m Maverick uh let's find
00:30:24
out America wants big trucks unfortunately yeah I know that's why I like the Maverick cuz there's a trend
00:30:30
going towards smaller trucks still trucks but smaller TR there's the the
00:30:35
Hyundai Santa Fe Santa Fe I saw one today Santa Fe or Santa Cruz Santa Santa
00:30:41
Cruz yeah Santa Cruz is the truck yeah I love that I saw one today small but is
00:30:47
that popular at all it's a foot and a half shorter it exists the old Ranger is
00:30:52
once a day at least oh thank you is that like versus the like the new Maverick
00:30:58
but was the old Ranger is there uh four-door version there is yeah it's
00:31:03
shorter than the four-door version by a foot I would assume it's probably about the same size as the four-door version the four-door version of the Ranger is
00:31:10
still a few inches shorter fa about the same size yeah yeah small trucks I mean
00:31:15
the rivan is a small truck what are you talking about I promise the rivan is a small truck compared to some other
00:31:22
gigantic trucks no the I mean yes like the the default truck the fullsize truck
00:31:27
that that when most people see a pickup truck that they get is an F-150 and to us it's massive cuz yeah
00:31:34
it's massive that is the normal siiz truck there are larger trucks and smaller trucks the rivan is definitely
00:31:40
smaller and there are bigger trucks there are Hummers and Silverados and others the Maverick and Santa Cruz are
00:31:45
significantly smaller than the ravan though significantly in bed size or just
00:31:50
like full size I don't know if it's that I have a question that I think will tickle our brains a little bit yeah what
00:31:57
is the lightest an object can weigh and and it is still
00:32:04
massive massive yeah like for us to describe it as massive or excuse me
00:32:10
actually let me I I I think I'm actually asking the opposite question that I mean to ask like cuz you're saying the rivan is not a massive truck right I'm saying
00:32:16
the rivan is a smaller truck right but how how heavy does something have to be before we're like no that's massive
00:32:23
regardless of size how heavy does something have to be before we're like no that's massive even size out of the
00:32:28
equation just wait that's hard there's so many categories I don't know yeah but just before something I'm not talking
00:32:35
about the def I'm before it feels massive before our soul goes that is massive just Vehicles no anything any
00:32:42
object regardless of size what is the weight what is the weight point where like there like bumblebees that weigh 1
00:32:49
o and there's the massive 2 oz Bumblebee which is look at the size of that thing it's Rel fair enough fair enough but but
00:32:56
you know is it a ton well a ton is semantics right it's it like depends on
00:33:01
the object I'm just I'm looking for our souls here man you know what I mean F150 up and tell me same category no no I
00:33:08
don't disagree I only bring this up because the rivan is 7,100 lb definitely all the electric the Cyber truck is less
00:33:16
massive so how do we feel about that the EV battery is 6,000 lb yeah God yeah
00:33:22
Eevee battery with weight is E just throw weight in a total mixer yeah but just say I think I think it's fair to
00:33:28
call all of these things massive the F-150 weighs much less than the rivan
00:33:33
but no one would say it's less massive it's way bigger right that's all I'm
00:33:40
saying they're not actually talking about weight when they say massive I know but I'm just I'm just trying to I'm just trying to open up our our brains
00:33:46
and our hearts to like maybe it's all massive yeah well I hope the Scout I hope the Scout happens because it looks
00:33:51
cool and it seems to have a a nice system you know the hybrid thing is cool I think a lot people want that so I hope
00:33:57
it happens now you can have an EV with one of those cool gas tank accessories on the back that you never use but it's
00:34:03
not totally point so you can still tell people you go off-roading without telling them you go off-roading sure
00:34:10
yeah someone needs to put a snorkel on it I want I want an E with a snorkel so bad I've just realized we only have two
00:34:15
more headlines in here so one of these better be long actually both of them better be long I think they kind of I don't know which one I'm going to get
00:34:21
please give me the Blue Sky one YouTube scrolling feature where is
00:34:29
that one did you see this no what's a YouTube scrolling feature so there's a
00:34:34
one of those feature flags that they test on random users but don't necessarily roll out that they do all
00:34:40
the time and they're testing one right now where as you're watching a full scale YouTube video on your full scale
00:34:46
computer if you like scroll down it just it ticktock ifies full-sized videos do
00:34:53
you guys have it cuz I do you have it oh W and so okay here I'll just show you
00:34:58
ready okay also wait it's only phones it's only phones it's only Android phones I believe oh okay right now right
00:35:05
now is what they're testing it on so right here you know like a little banza disc golf but swoop now we've got Auto
00:35:12
playing I don't know who this is Swoop how get let's see Joe is hungry best Channel
00:35:20
on YouTube is the best Channel on YouTube these are not random these are related videos I think it's essentially a new
00:35:26
way of scrolling into related videos recommended videos or yeah recommended you know hockey we haven't hit waveform
00:35:34
yet it's cuz I watch all the waveform episodes though it wouldn't recommend that good call get safe yeah I'm
00:35:40
interested in this I think it the immediate reaction is this feels like Tik Tok and that's not a good reaction
00:35:45
in general yeah well to us but YouTube is like yes it's yes perfect that's
00:35:51
exactly what we want to hear okay what if they changed it so that as you swipe it goes to the most swatched part of the
00:35:56
next video would that change how you feel about it that would be awful terrible don't give them ideas I know
00:36:04
they're listening engagement spiking uh man can I throw out my why I don't think
00:36:09
this is that bad okay sure why I hate it and why I don't think it's that bad okay
00:36:15
so normally if you're in full screen the best way to get to another recommended video is you either have to get all the
00:36:20
way to the end cards but let's be real a lot of YouTube videos the last minute might be a little bit of like an outro
00:36:26
that I don't always watch and I won't get the next related videos or in my end card until it's all the way at the end
00:36:33
or I have to get out of full screen so I can take the risk and just swipe up and
00:36:38
I don't have to leave full screen and I could get there my biggest issue with it right now is I didn't even know this was
00:36:44
a thing and I've randomly swiped away in a video I'm actually watching because I like oh I try and swipe down for a
00:36:50
notification I do that all the time I'm like I saw a notification in full screen and I try and just swipe down the top to
00:36:56
get to my notifications and I swipe into a video and I've lost my place down it also either way a different video it
00:37:02
goes up or down yeah like that yeah yeah up or down is crazy it should only be
00:37:08
well I guess Tik Tok is up or down well yeah but down is that's if I'm like trying to swipe from this yeah yeah oh yeah but then I'm going up so going back
00:37:15
through the history yeah so it's like a Tik Tok Carousel now yep yeah yeah the thing that YouTube has always had that I
00:37:22
feel like has been saving us from the brain rot of the current Internet meta
00:37:28
is the fact that you still have intentional content consumption where you are picking something to watch and
00:37:34
yes there is an algorithm that is like serving up options of things that you watch and sure sometimes you just click
00:37:40
on whatever is available because you just want something to play but I think
00:37:46
that many of the problems that we have in the world right now are because people are just being served stuff and
00:37:52
having no intentionality behind what they're consuming I cosign in
00:37:59
addition YouTube historically has this thing where they're they are the biggest
00:38:05
video website ever right but for some reason they feel they need to also chase
00:38:11
other media they feel they need to chase TV and Netflix and Tik Tok because they
00:38:19
feel like threats but they constantly introduce either experiments or features that to me just feel like what if we
00:38:25
were more like Netflix go to the YouTube Summits and you listen to the way they talk about YouTube on TV like they are
00:38:31
constantly thinking about Netflix ifying that experience and having these huge highes Like You Know cover art things
00:38:37
which is it's nice but it's that's chasing Netflix they also Chase TV all the time they try to like intermingle
00:38:43
the talent bring TV talent to YouTube and and put YouTube Talent on TV and
00:38:48
they have TV features like they do that all the time and it doesn't shock me at all that they're doing the Tik Tok thing obviously shorts is taken off but like
00:38:55
why not longs too like just they're trying everything so yeah it's just the
00:39:00
thing that YouTube's always willing to do which I I guess you give them credit for being willing to you know change
00:39:06
things up cuz you could be the same forever you could be Vimeo but they're trying new stuff so good for them I
00:39:12
guess that's the one thing they have not tried to be Vimeo yeah it's true they don't have to be Vimeo nope there's a uh
00:39:20
a Mark Zuckerberg quote that is really relevant here which is in 2012 he said
00:39:27
if if we don't create the thing that kills Facebook someone else will
00:39:33
and yeah well yeah that kind of goes off what you were saying was like they're
00:39:39
they're scared of these other options I think that that's definitely an element for things like shorts maybe where like
00:39:45
oh we have to or AI or whatever all these companies are like if we don't do this we're going to be left behind I
00:39:50
also think since they're owned by Google and their stock has to keep going up they have to look at every possible
00:39:56
category and say hm 2% of Americans consume this content but what if they
00:40:01
consume this content on YouTube instead right so that's just they're looking at all the available markets that they
00:40:07
could just tot trounce on and replace that category completely yeah and that's why they're doing TV and Netflix ifying
00:40:14
everything and it's fun to watch like the occasional like you'll see like a big push from them to like bring
00:40:20
traditional Hollywood celebrities to YouTube You'll see Will Smith and Ronaldo and all these people start
00:40:25
YouTube channels and you're like who is this for though and you're like well I guess it's the people who are
00:40:31
watching them on TV and now they're going to be on YouTube mission accomplish well and everyone has Smart TVs now you know so it's like what if
00:40:38
you could watch everything on the YouTube app instead of the individual things I I exclusively watch basketball
00:40:45
on the YouTube app yeah yeah and YouTube and there's YouTube TV too so I watch YouTube g i
00:40:50
watch games on YouTube TV and I watch highlights and Analysis on YouTube and I'm just and I'm in their Universe the
00:40:56
whole time I never leave I don't even need a cable subscription Elon mus thought he could make the super app but
00:41:01
turns out YouTu YouTube's out here making the super app just alph does it feel like YouTube kind of like makes
00:41:08
these change or tries to chase these things and then just kind of gives up on them yeah like YouTube R and all the
00:41:15
things they were like let's attack TV our own stuff just kidding and like live
00:41:20
yeah live streaming and gaming they were really hard into like let's pay for all these twitch streamers and bring them over and like and just I don't really
00:41:27
care anymore That's a classic Google move some of it totally yeah some of it shorts is there and it's competing with
00:41:35
Tik Tok yeah a lot of the other stuff feels uh there used to be a whole separate YouTube gaming app yeah
00:41:41
remember that I remember that that was like I remember sitting in my office chair and reading the article about it and downloading it and being like H yeah
00:41:48
we'll see how long this last guessing that one didn't hook so well but YouTube music still exists so maybe that you know Becca still listen to every podcast
00:41:55
on YouTube music there are people who use YouTu music was birthed off the backs of Giants and when I say that I
00:42:01
mean Google play music yeah which so now they're competing against Spotify it's a beautiful application here we are yeah
00:42:08
competing is a strong word but yeah trying to bring people having an option
00:42:13
yeah yeah existing so I'm surprised there's no YouTube messaging app to beon one thing Mariah brought up with this
00:42:19
that I didn't think about was that thumbnails wouldn't matter in this situation yeah I mean this is the insane
00:42:26
thing to me about M Tik Tok shorts all short form content in general is like
00:42:31
you have no control over how the algorithm is going to serve your video
00:42:37
whether or not you can optimize certain parts of the video to have things that maybe the algorithm likes I don't know
00:42:43
that's also a terrible way of making content that makes everything horrible uh but when you just have short form
00:42:49
content like this it's like or just infinitely scrollable can you speed this up I'm trying to optimize for the next 30 seconds of the podcast okay I'm just
00:42:56
yeah I'm just I don't know the more you like strip from the Creator's
00:43:01
presentation it just we're it's not good it's I don't like it have you guys seen Minority Report yeah we're heading
00:43:08
towards a future where like consuming content is just like the precogs like we're like floating we're floating in
00:43:14
the milk and then like something gets served like straight into our brain we're like yeah we're all like that a lot
00:43:21
right now I don't think this is as big of a deal like this isn't something you
00:43:27
still ultimately have to be inside of a video already that you've clicked on on the homepage to even get to this part to
00:43:33
me it's mostly just a quality of life blunder because it I can accidentally
00:43:38
switch out of a video I'm actually enjoying totally and then I have to go find the spot in it because like every
00:43:45
time I've done it it hasn't brought me back it's brought me back when I flip back I'm at the start of the video and
00:43:50
that's really annoying I'm so sorry that you're in this experiment opt out stop experimenting
00:43:57
with I'm assuming this will not be available for kids either I don't think this is personally I think this is not
00:44:04
going to work and they're not going to roll it out because I think they're going to find that YouTube as a platform is a more intentional platform at all
00:44:11
well I'm just thinking because I know they don't let kids use autoplay so I'm curious is they already is this the same
00:44:17
thing they're already surfing just like us Is this different I I guess YouTube
00:44:22
autoplay is basically doing the same thing without the swipe
00:44:27
yeah yeah as far as I can tell I don't know if the engine for what it recommends for a swipe is different from autoplay but it feels kind of like it's
00:44:34
the same thing but just a voluntary I'm done two minutes in versus just to the
00:44:39
end probably guess it's the same thing it's kind of the same thing just a different movement yeah wait so would it
00:44:44
swipe irreg oh but this is for Mid now I'm so curious wait would it would it would it not autoplay if you have this
00:44:51
feature would it swipe anyway it would probably Auto playay at the end of the video if you just like let it played through but if you swipe then but
00:44:57
there's already a next video arrow on the screen it's probably the same video proba just another it's probably there's just two ways of getting to it yeah
00:45:04
that' be kind of like on Tik Tok have you ever noticed when you're on a thing and you try and back out of the app it
00:45:10
just goes to another video to try and keep you in if you always swipe up it's the video you tried to back out of all
00:45:16
the back button doing is swiping to the next one and trying to catch your attention as fast as possible yeah there are these new gesture paradigms that a
00:45:23
lot of these applications that we've grown using kind of created like Tinder created the swipe right equals yes swipe
00:45:30
no equals no Paradigm and now everything uses that it's the same kind of thing
00:45:36
Tik Tok kind of created the swipe up to keep Doom scrolling or keep uh brain
00:45:41
rotting so now we're it works now we're here very effective highly effective
00:45:46
highly effective highly effective uh okay how many more headlines do we have two two so two more after the break that
00:45:53
the it's up to you we either do one now break or two after the break I think either way it'll work let's do both
00:45:59
after the break a
00:46:05
yeah I'm GNA all right so earlier in the episode we talked about a car company that doesn't exist anymore that made
00:46:11
cars that don't exist anymore Scout which I looked it up Scout was owned by a tractor company that's pretty
00:46:16
hilarious right Harvester International but now I have in front of me four cars
00:46:22
that don't exist anymore and I need you to tell me which one
00:46:28
isn't real which one did I make up a the Renault L car that's right the car is
00:46:35
called L Car B the AMC Gremlin C the Isuzu mysterious utility
00:46:44
wizard D the Subaru Brat or E all of
00:46:51
these are real oh gosh I hate this oh no all of the above H damn I don't
00:46:58
recognize any of those that's tough you've never heard of oh sorry my bad the Isuzu mysterious utility wizard was
00:47:03
sold in the US as the Honda Passport but outside of the US it was the Isuzu mysterious utility wizard if it is real
00:47:10
that if it is real if it is real yes in the US Honda Passport I hope that somebody has painted their subar brat
00:47:17
bright green that'd be great wait does Honda love the letter P realizing prolog prologue pilot pilot
00:47:26
Honda pord pivic pord the Honda pament are you kidding me
00:47:33
guys we all know C the Honda Element the Honda Element should be an EV no why cuz it's a car meant to get
00:47:41
wet what's wrong e can get get not like the not like the elements the ele
00:47:46
element was like you're supposed to like hose it out on the inside yeah the element has a drain they just make the Honda
00:47:53
lithium or Cobalt I think it's a good time to take a break we'll be right
00:47:59
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David really wants to pick one of these so let's see if he can grab it oh this is so dramatic yes I got it what is it
00:50:27
okay the headline says Blue Sky influx here we go here we go retention graph here we go
00:50:35
you guys know how much I love protocols fuckle up so in 1957 this thing got launched into space wait first of all
00:50:42
cuz here's what happened I saw this on my uh timeline and it was like a headline that said a bunch of Taylor
00:50:50
Swift fans are leaving that is also a part of it and I read that headline and I was like no
00:50:56
they're not and I kept scrolling is what oh no they wrong okay so when you say
00:51:03
they did are was it like a few dozen of them was it like a 150 of them there's
00:51:09
when you talk about Taylor Swift a dozen is not a number in that scenario you are
00:51:14
talking tens of thousands exclusively in 500k units I guess I'm operating on the
00:51:20
tech blog scale of we need to report on a trend and if I see five tweets about
00:51:26
this sure is it more I agree with you that too many people write articles based on like one tweet right I agree
00:51:33
with that but I also think a lot of the old like Tumblr esque just like very
00:51:39
quick stanes accounts are on Twitter and Taylor has a or had a very large Twitter
00:51:48
uh following but now does not tweet I haven't fully followed it but like I would not be surprised if they moved to
00:51:54
Blue Sky okay somewhere else I doubt it okay okay
00:52:01
so uh yeah okay so basically every single time x does anything which is all
00:52:06
the time uh people leave and so basically people have been leaving that
00:52:13
for Blue Sky recently every time they make a flunder or people just want to
00:52:18
leave the platform and also it used to be that people were flocking to threads
00:52:24
but people are finally realizing that threads is just Tik Tok for words because threads does not give you very
00:52:30
much control of what you're saying like at all there is technically a follower feed on mobile but you can't default to
00:52:37
it so you're always going to go to the algorithmic feed uh it's a lot of people just from Instagram and Facebook there's
00:52:43
a lot of random outof context threads Eng in farming yeah and then the
00:52:49
algorithm is like incredibly strong at if you engage with anything by even like
00:52:54
clicking into it just to read the comments it's going to serve you a lot more of that stuff 10 confirm so on threads it's really easy to just see a
00:53:01
lot of stuff that like you know you click on because you're like what and then your whole feed becomes that right
00:53:07
now my threads is like you live in New Jersey you want anything that just says the word New Jersey I got more of that
00:53:14
yeah so also you know I think people um are realizing that another meta platform
00:53:20
is maybe not where they want to grow Their audience at and this kind of sucks because we did an entire episode on
00:53:26
activity Pub which you should go watch um it is a really cool protocol that a
00:53:31
lot of things are starting to use but threads currently is kind of the Bastion for activity Pub because it has 275
00:53:38
million users as of last week but in the last like week or so we just hit 14
00:53:44
million users on Blue Sky and now 15 million users on Blue Sky and my entire threads feed probably just because I
00:53:50
engaged with posts about it are just people saying I'm going to Blue Sky here's my new handle m
00:53:57
so so it's like a super high frequency Echo chamber Creator yeah is what
00:54:03
threads is yeah yeah there's a guy that made this Statistics website that just tracks Blue Sky likers and users and
00:54:10
posters over time and so just in the last couple of week they've weeks they've gained like tons of users how
00:54:17
many is tons though they're up to 15 million and they gained I think I saw they gained a million or something they
00:54:22
gained like two million in the last week and then they gained a million when Brazil got temporarily banned from X
00:54:28
that was a few months ago which was like yeah like two months ago or so okay so I don't know I mean I think it sort of
00:54:34
feels like they're growing blue sky is very cool they use this protocol called the at protocol uh where basically you
00:54:40
can have your own custom feeds and you can kind of control the way the algorithm works it's almost the exact
00:54:45
opposite of threads because threads is just like we're going to do the algorithm for you and on Blue Sky you basically create your own algorithm uh
00:54:52
they have this feature called starter packs where if someone that you follow decides to make a pack of people that
00:54:58
they follow you could just instantly follow all the same people so it has a lot of onboarding features that I think
00:55:03
people really like and it feels exactly like the old version of Twitter um the
00:55:09
interesting thing about competing protocols is always going to be that there's a long period of time before we
00:55:14
see anything that universally wins out unfortunately activity Pub is like the
00:55:20
protocol that's published by the w3c and so it's not owned by anyone and that's awesome unfortunately blue sky is owned
00:55:27
by Blue Sky and the at protocol is open source but it's still owned by a comp
00:55:34
like blue sky is still own by a company so kind of pick your poison I don't know if we're ever going to get back to a
00:55:40
point where we had the same social media that Twitter used to be I don't think that's ever going to happen again um but
00:55:47
it's just been really interesting seeing people kind of like moving around to all these different options yeah so this
00:55:54
website is really interesting yeah I'm trying to contextualize uh what 15 million users looks like and
00:55:59
like the rate of people joining per day um the bottom of the website maybe we can link this in the show notes um shows
00:56:06
followers per user percentile so if you have six followers you're in the 75th percentile of all of Blue Sky uh and if
00:56:12
you have 400 followers you're in the 99th percentile of all so there's lot that just means there's lots of new
00:56:17
people because most people have zero followers they just joining and like hopping around following a few people so
00:56:24
yeah that is that is indicative of activity yeah I specifically like that you can just default to the following
00:56:30
feed and just look at everything all the people that you're following there's also a popular with friends option which
00:56:36
is algorithmic but based on the people you're following which is a nice sort of like you know narrow version of that and
00:56:43
then there's discover which is what's popular and then you can follow your own feeds based on feeds that people create
00:56:49
so it's just it's very intentional social media which is very cool you don't have it defaulting to the dog pic
00:56:54
feed what's wrong with funny cuz there's a picture of a dog on his screen right now from Tom Warren but um but yeah I
00:57:01
don't know it's fun I do you have it on your phone I the the app is really good it actually was originally only on yeah
00:57:08
yeah I was on it when it was invite only and messed around for a while but that was not a great experience um yeah and
00:57:14
cuz that felt like a lot of kind of what threads feels like right now which is like hey I'm new to threads who can I
00:57:20
find here that's like cool to chat with or whatever which is kind of weird but um I I've been on thre a lot more lately
00:57:27
I don't really like it yeah cuz it's addictive and no well that's the thing I don't like I I've stopped I took Twitter
00:57:33
off my phone I put threads there and I've been calling threads like the nicotine gum of like my social media
00:57:40
experience right now of like just want to scoll Twitter was the cigarettes that I was using all of the time I'm like I
00:57:46
need to stop Twitter let's go on threads and and it's basically like oh I I
00:57:51
pressed I put it in the exact same spot on my phone where Twitter was so I just default click and then after like three posts I'm just
00:57:58
like I don't need to do this and then I don't do it and then it's it's slowly weaning me off of that level of like
00:58:05
quick post social media and now I just play the Pokemon card game instead yeah yeah which is really good it is really
00:58:10
good after we talked about it the thing I love about blue sky right now is like the alternate feeds so I can use a feed
00:58:16
just for looking at news for the podcast I can also use a feed for what my friends are talking about and when you
00:58:21
go to the friend feed or the following feed yeah not friends just the following feed you can kind of scroll down until
00:58:27
you like oh I recognize that post oh the last time I opened it that's was the first one so now I'm done and then you
00:58:33
get off chronological feeds it's great I miss go+ yeah we could have had it all goog
00:58:40
plus was the Google Glass of social media yeah think about it think about it it
00:58:49
was ahead of its time anyway yeah it's fascinating it is growing a lot I kind of think where they fumbled was they
00:58:54
kept it invite only for too long there was a period of time where it was extremely hype because it was invite
00:59:00
only but if you do that for too long I think Arc also had this issue and many applications will have this issue where
00:59:05
they just keep it too closed off for too long and then altern Alternatives pop up
00:59:11
and people lose interest and if they had opened it up like four or five months earlier I think that they would have had
00:59:17
a lot more growth but it's interesting to see their growth right now anyway yeah um yeah yeah I feel like social
00:59:24
media is just turning to this thing of like you get really into it then you don't really want to use it anymore but you kind of have to keep it around for
00:59:30
some sort of contact with a couple people at this point now Facebook and Twitter it's just like I've realized I
00:59:35
know people on there where that's the only way I can contact them so I have to keep them but maybe I should just ask
00:59:41
for their email or something yeah I email this forever I don't post on my
00:59:46
personal Facebook but it is like it's all my family an era of communication
00:59:51
basically yeah yeah anyway yeah it's been really interesting see to to see that grow
00:59:57
keep tracking it you pick you to pick yeah yeah make make sure it's a good one
01:00:02
okay make sure it's about protocols that's right is about Pro it's about Pro
01:00:09
it's about Final Cut Pro Final Cut Pro updates is the last one and uh God am I
01:00:17
I am so torn I have so much to say here where do I start it's a big update okay perfect that this is at the end know I'm
01:00:25
going to try to keep as short as David Blue Sky context how about that okay okay so I've been reviewing this MacBook
01:00:30
Pro right M4 Max it's the equivalent of the M1 Max that I've been using for years and I've been like teetering on is
01:00:37
this finally the one I should upgrade to I really it's very much faster than wow this Nano texture is so great like it's
01:00:43
got Thunderbolt 5 it's future proof I think this might be the one I don't need it I maybe I should get it um Final Cut
01:00:49
Pro updates come out really really solid updates I think some of us saw this coming because there was some sort of uh
01:00:55
teaser in the keynote but uh it's Final Cut Pro 11 and the main new feature is
01:01:01
called magnetic mask if anyone's been editing videos for more than a few years you've at least dabbled in or heard
01:01:07
about rotoscoping which is a very difficult manual technique but to cut
01:01:13
out the subject of a video right so if you have if you have a photo with a subject in the front you know Photoshop
01:01:19
has gotten Advanced AI tools to cut out the subject it's gotten better and better over time really super good now there are like pixel m tools that do it
01:01:26
now but in video it's always been this thing because the subject's going to move you have to do every single frame
01:01:32
and so rotoscoping is a technique to cut every single frame off in excruciating amounts of time to do this but with the
01:01:39
Advent of these AI tools it's become a plug-in away like motion VFX has I think
01:01:45
it's called M Roto AI where I click the subject and hit track and it analyzes
01:01:51
figures out what the subject is cuts it all out and then moves forward a frame cuts it all out again and moov sort frame and just goes goost goes goes GES
01:01:58
and does the whole thing for me really really impressive stuff magnetic mask is
01:02:04
this all built into Final Cut Pro now and I haven't actually tried it yet but I assume that this will take advantage
01:02:12
directly of the improved neural engine on the M4 Max chip which is making me
01:02:18
really want this laptop so I can do that more so that's the main thing that's the
01:02:23
number one headlining new feature AI powered essentially rotoscoping but they're they're branding at magnetic mask cool
01:02:29
tracking great um there's also AI captions and translation so you can
01:02:37
basically create a transcription in any language of I don't know about any language but it seems like multiple languages based on what I've seen um
01:02:44
which is very useful because I don't trust YouTube autogenerated captions so
01:02:50
for every single video I pay a service that has a human go through and create
01:02:56
and type out manual captions for at least in English every single video it costs me like 50 bucks a video I do it
01:03:03
for every video if this is good saves me 50 bucks a video if you
01:03:09
trust it if you trust it I will be trying it and seeing if it's as good as YouTubes or as good as a humans we shall
01:03:14
see uh there you go AI taking a human job and then the last one is uh AI or
01:03:20
spatial video you can edit spatial video now on Final Cut Pro 11 which is great if you're shooting a spatial video on your iPhone and you want to shoot it
01:03:26
into your into your Vision Pro then this is how you'll do it fantastic 300 bucks Final Cut Pro 11 very exciting for me I
01:03:33
think this is the last nail in the coffin for my M1 Max laptop I think I now have to get the M4 do you think that
01:03:40
this is a big enough upgrade for them to Warrant the entire version change I
01:03:46
think the amount of upgrades required to to Warrant of version change gets smaller every year yeah in the same way
01:03:53
that like Android gets a bunch of tiny upgrades and they're like it's Android 15 or whatever Final Cut Pro 10 has been
01:04:01
around for so long that I feel like you would need sort of like a visual refresh
01:04:06
in order to yeah it's been like 15 years hasn't it it's Final Cut is very old I
01:04:12
would say that you could argue that this new advent of AI features is a good
01:04:18
enough uh inflection point to Warrant a new number I think there's going to be more AI features in the future and I
01:04:24
think this is the first new features and you can go all right 11 for this trivia
01:04:30
Adam and Ellis when did Final Cup Pro 10 2011 God they looked it up too we all
01:04:36
looked it up June 21st 2011 yeah it's been out for 13 years new trivia question when did Final Cut come out I
01:04:42
know this don't look it up when do you think it came out it came out I know this it came out
01:04:49
after hold on hold on hold on are okay wait are you talking about when did Final Cut come out or when did Apple
01:04:56
when did final cut apples first publish because it was a thing before Apple purchased it it was a yes I would say
01:05:03
when it was Apple's Final Cut okay Apple's Final Cut came out in
01:05:10
2000 no in 98 99 yeah 1999 close it's
01:05:17
been 25 years yeah oh they did they developed okay they acquired it in '98
01:05:22
but they released it in 99 yeah it was first on age of 99 yeah so yeah that's
01:05:27
Final Cut Is old this is a new version number I think it's fair that it's 11 it's a a whole bunch of new AI features
01:05:33
I'm going to be trying magnetic mask I'm probably going to add this the to the laptop review before it goes out because I think it's that interesting I want to
01:05:38
try it hopefully I can get my hands on it there's also uh new Final Cut Pro for
01:05:43
iPad improvements uh including AI enhance for light and color you hit a
01:05:49
button it looks better whoop DDO uh adding new stuff to the Content Library New effects new transitions Etc and
01:05:55
pencil Pro htics and new uh inks for uh live drawing you I still want to try
01:06:02
editing a podcast on an iPad Pro it would be so difficult I'm sure it's possible they have it on iPad Mini as
01:06:08
well now oh my God I wouldn't do it on iPad Mini I don't myself of what Final Cut Pro looks like on iPad Mini it's
01:06:15
very fun really funny um there's New Logic Pro improvements as well Alis
01:06:20
might find interesting that the quantech room simulator is coming as a free update the most acoustic accurate room
01:06:26
simulator Reverb generator ever that's going to be built into logic pro allegedly um as well as plugin search
01:06:34
and uh some new sounds and built-in stuff as well and Final Cut camera is getting an update hvvc log recording so
01:06:40
you don't have to do prores log you can do hgvc log and get more color space more dynamic range but still smaller
01:06:46
file sizes mhm great and live viewing on it live let previews 4K 120 from the
01:06:52
iPhone 16 pro and pro Max yes but yeah I'm I'm excited to try Final Cut Pro 11
01:06:59
and it may be yeah the the reason that I upgrade this laptop and I'm very curious to to play with Magnetic mask no you
01:07:06
said you think it's for using the new neural engine do you there's no confirmation that it has to be on no so
01:07:13
the deduction the reasoning I'm using is that this is Apple's own app it is
01:07:19
specifically it's AI powered obviously and if anyone has the ability to plug
01:07:27
directly in to the neur the neural cores and you know M4 series chips it's It's
01:07:32
the Final Cut team and they get to play with those chips and hopefully maximize its efficiency and the neural engine on
01:07:39
this M4 Max chip is I think either twice or four times as fast or something crazy as the M1 Max so that's great cool you
01:07:46
should do an export test on both I think I should do a tracking test because exports are already faster I've already
01:07:52
done export test it's twice as fast but the adding mask and like masking an effect or just like I want this subject
01:07:59
to have this behind it separate the layers do the tracking for this 30second clip how long does that track take is it
01:08:04
real time for AK for prores for red footage like I want to try a bunch of tracking stuff M um if it's four times
01:08:10
as fast on this laptop that's that's worth it so yeah cool that's the last
01:08:16
headline it is we have one more thing in the Hat though it is kind of in the Hat
01:08:21
what is I is it someone's birthday it is a piece of fan art that we got sent that
01:08:28
is really awesome I think we all shared this but we haven't shown it on the Pod yet but someone made waveform podcast
01:08:34
fan art with a bunch of different sayings and all of us our the internet
01:08:40
yeah what what are the different ones I just noticed I'm sitting in exactly the same position that they threw me in right now it's a me so it says Ellis is
01:08:47
saying the great state of California nailed it Adam saying trivia dude I'm
01:08:55
saying saying no David is saying bad no don't do that did you say that or did Ella that that was you okay y I'm saying
01:09:02
I like my Domino and I like my pizza no notes perfect no notes yeah and
01:09:08
then and Marquez is saying you can do what you want kids you can do anything there's also some other uh
01:09:15
bingo let's go it's a feature not a bug um when did we say I can floss my teeth
01:09:20
with 16 gigs of a few weeks ago they're on then yeah that's good this is
01:09:26
wonderful so yeah very very cool piece of pan Art thank you a lot of waveform isms we do turns out maybe too many
01:09:33
maybe too many or maybe not enough maybe not enough whoops we're going to need a bigger piece of paper yeah we're going to we're going to print it out big and
01:09:38
hang it up somewhere and just uh if you are if if you who made this are listening please do not stop making
01:09:44
stuff because you clearly are very good at it extremely talented I think we all I feel like a lot of the first things we
01:09:49
all made were like fan art or something this is the second piece of fan art I've seen that says shut up Ellison
01:09:56
that's pretty awesome interesting huh well I think without any further Ado we
01:10:02
should do trivia shut up oh sorry sorry sorry
01:10:08
sorry trivia dude quick update on the score Marquez and David tied with 23 a
01:10:15
piece Andrew running away with it with 27 whoa oh yeah let's go I hope that
01:10:22
extra trivia Extravaganza completely messes this up oh it will don't you worry good okay so the first question
01:10:29
midi has velocity that has a range from zero to what
01:10:36
number oh okay this might be a Hint it might not be but actually all parameters
01:10:42
in MIDI are constrained to this number this doesn't work specifically because
01:10:48
it is the maximum bit depth possible in a mini word
01:10:54
Madagascar Madagascar 3 Madagascar Escape to Africa the
01:10:59
Madagascar R are these now just things that Han Zimmer has scored
01:11:05
yes flip him and read what do we got oh okay we are cooking right now everyone
01:11:12
has a different answer David what's yours I put 128 I put one th I put 255 David we got
01:11:20
to talk about your answer yeah David we got to talk about your answer because I'm not a musician but you are a
01:11:25
computer person okay okay so why did you pick 128 because it's half of
01:11:32
256 oh okay never mind well I guess we don't have to talk about your answer Marquez why did you pick 256 he picked
01:11:38
255 and why did you pick 255 zero is still a value because I was going from 0 to
01:11:43
256 256 total which would be 0 to 255 is a kilobyte which is an 8 bit
01:11:51
number sorry not a kilobyte so sure wipe that out are so David midi is seven bits
01:12:00
oh meaning that the maximum value described by a seven bit or how many discrete values are there in a seven bit
01:12:06
number seventh hold on wait wait wait two four seven bits a lot 128 in seven bits 127 there's
01:12:16
128 discret values possible but like you said zero is a value meaning
01:12:21
127 dang man is the correct 126 Zer is a value no there's 128 discret values in a
01:12:28
seven bit number but zero is one of those values meaning that
01:12:33
127 is the maximum but can zero be a velocity that's what we're saying velocity is I mean zero is that there's
01:12:40
no nothing being place no that's what we're saying it's 0 to 127 not 1 to 128 if you'd combined our logic we would
01:12:46
have got it yeah but zero is Val but that wasn't the question the question was zero to what what was the
01:12:53
highest number in the range yeah oh come on yeah that's I that's why I put 255
01:12:59
that's why he put 255 yeah our logic combin would have got it oh anyway question number two I need that when
01:13:06
you're done too when you're right funky car time guys I'm going to name four cars and you have to tell me which one
01:13:13
is fake or if they're all real the Renault lar l e car L Car the
01:13:23
AMC greml the AMC Gremlin the Isuzu mysterious utility
01:13:31
wizard also called the Honda Passport the Subaru
01:13:38
Brat or sorry I didn't make any of these up oh all right let's read them boys uh
01:13:46
Marquez why don't you go first the gremlin the AMC Gremlin made by American Motor Company is real wow I also put
01:13:54
gremlin which means I think I not only is the gremlin cool I mean real but it is cool d i put all the above that is
01:14:02
correct I didn't make any of those up I know all real I was either between now
01:14:09
I'm doing that I almost knew this thing but um the I don't expect you to say
01:14:14
Renault like that unless you unless you didn't create it CU that's how you pronounce it Dam I know the brat is real
01:14:21
the brat is so sick and then when you compare yeah the brat is sick and then when you compared you said there's the Honda Passport version I was like Ellis
01:14:28
isn't that deep in his own lore I am yo the gremlin is sick The Grandin said
01:14:33
look at the Renault L car so now when everyone's like oh Ellis hates cars Ellis doesn't like cars he's Mr train no
01:14:40
I just named four of them oh you like cars name everyone name every car and
01:14:47
with that Lightning McQueen with that we will wrap this this week's
01:14:52
episode thanks for watching thank you for for listening uh thanks for uh
01:14:57
updating the score maybe trivia Extravaganza coming soon that would be really fun yeah we got to wrap this up very soon yeah all right catch you guys
01:15:04
next week peace waveform is produced by waveform is produced don't press it
01:15:11
wait what is it is the buzz wa for produced
01:15:17
by wa for is produced by Adam Alina and Ellis Riv we partner with VOX media podcast Network and our trure music was created by V Sil
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it's kind of hard to explain cuz like you think of midi literally as like digital sheet music like there's no it
01:15:45
it doesn't have a sound you have to give it to an instrument which can then read that sheet music
