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at what is up people of the internet welcome back to another packed episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts
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I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David and well WWDC was this week it was Monday by
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the time you hearing this it's Friday you've seen the announcements we've gotten plenty of coverage and we're here
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to break it all down in our our true and honest Way by diving directly into the Wheats oh yeah it's how we kind of do
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things here uh so actually first also we uploaded an event recap video so if you
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only have 15 minutes and you want to watch a recap app that video exists we also interviewed Tim Cook and that video
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is also on the main Channel and I would suggest I would suggest watching that too but here's the thing about those
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interviews I just want to I just want to mini rant for a second do it do it soundboard that's a powerful soundboard item great new sound powerful
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soundboard item love our new clips on the soundboard uh those are fun but I I always find them interesting because
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they always minimize how much time you have to do them which okay of course Tim Cook's a busy person they did some interviews with some other Executives they're also busy people I get that they're trying to like Crown them into a
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small amount of time but they are so short that you are basically unable to actually ask follow-up questions yeah and when it comes to someone like an exact like Tim Cook he's also pretty
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good at not answering questions like very like he'll he'll say things that he wants you to hear but yeah if he doesn't
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want to answer it he just won't they told us we had 10 minutes they told us we had 10 minutes I went we did 17 way
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over we did and was still unable to like follow up on most things like I think the the perfect example of this was like two-thirds of the way almost almost near the end of the video talking about the
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Magic Mouse briefly like I brought up the Magic Mouse and had Tim talk about the magic mouse for like 60 seconds and I so badly wanted to be like can we dive
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there's a rabbit hole here that we could just dive into right now and it would be really entertaining about the development of this yeah but there's
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just no time so I if Apple if you're listening to this Apple's team who conducts these we would love more time that's all I think they know that though
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I think they know that yeah I think so I think it's on purpose and I think they they even would like to if they can like
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try to trim and like direct interviews to only be about WWDC but then it's just it's just PR obviously they're doing it to get as many positive videos out there about their thing as possible but I
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think what you'll find is there are people who are very excited to talk to Tim Cook about a variety of things and
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then they don't get to talk about those things and it's just it's kind of feels like almost a waste of time so it would
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be really nice if there was more time yeah that's my take definitely anyway okay let's dive into the new software
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and Hardware there's a whole lot to get into where do we where do we start well Vision OS yeah so the way that I'm
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laying out this podcast for listeners is because iOS which also sort of applies to iPad OS is so thick and then also the AI or apple intelligence section is also
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quite thick uh the way that we usually do this podcast is section trivia section
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trivia section answers triy answers so the way we're going to do it is everything that's not iPhone and iPad
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then iPhone and iPad then AI okay so we're just kind of go going to go through like all of the other Apple products that are not iPhone and iPad at the beginning got it which to be fair
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some of them got some pretty nice updates there's some cool things yeah some nice updates here so we're not going in order like we normally do
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because there's so much stuff to yeah there's so much stuff so much stuff so in non iOS and iPhone news yes Vision OS
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Vision OS that's a fairly non iPhone thing yeah there's some good stuff here it's a 2.0 update that's what I was
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thinking I'm not sure I find enough things here to be 2.0 but who cares it was only 6 months ago that it was first
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announced yeah screw it let's go 2.0 right off the bat it was announced a year ago but released 6 months ago 3.0
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for Christmas we're on that pace though it it does feel like Vision OS the update
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of the things that you should have done in the beginning on yes yeah exactly you should
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have had this already but like to your point yeah like when you ship a product sometimes you might just not realize a
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lot of things so it's or they were still working on it but they they wanted to launch and then there was a couple things that right when it was launching
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could have probably rushed out but still we're working on so here they are all right so Vision OS 2 uh we got a lot of
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updates the biggest ones are mostly in photos honestly I think this is the one that people have been reacting to the most um so a big part of Vision Pro that
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apple is starting to push out over time is the ability to share content with other people via share play via your
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ghost Persona thing which is called your digital Persona or something like that um your persona it's not Avatar what is it
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person digal person digital Persona okay uh so in photos you can now share photos
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with other people so you can be in different places at the same time looking at a photo library which is very
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cool but the cool thing about the photo library is they introduced an update that allows uh machine learning to
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identify the subjects in a photo and turn them into a depth photo even if they're a standard 2D photo and this works with pretty much any photo in your library as long as it can identify some
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sort of subject uh Quinn from snazzy Labs tested it and said that he tested on 60 old photos that he had and only
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one of them messed up a little bit and that otherwise he said that pretty it's pretty much better at separating the
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subject from the background than actually taking a spatial photo on your iPhone is hilarious which is very funny
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because Apple spent a lot of time making sure that the cameras were perfectly aligned on the iPhone and that going
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forward from now on all of the iPhones have to have these perfect Parallax cameras and isn't it only certain
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iPhones that are able to shoot spatial video uh the the resolution of spatial video I think is is different and yeah and then the the yeah the space so the reason that the iPhone 15 didn't have
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the diagonal cameras and they aligned them is because they wanted them to be able to do spatial yeah yeah it's almost
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like the greatest iPhone ever made also has cameras in a line oh but can't shoot
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can't cuz they're probably not the right distance apart or if you have three if you have
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three or five eyes what can I do in my s24 ultra just wondering you could buy an iPhone buy an iPhone on that's Tim
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Cook would say that is one interesting thing though you can take any photos and and run them through this so if you drop a phot if you text yourself a photo from
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the s24 ultra and run it through this machine learning it will make it a spatial photo yeah and cool and then you
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can look at it in Your Vision Pro and like move your head around yeah neat which I think is super cool uh obviously you can't do this for video yet however
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I have heard things from developers that have said they have seen some stuff where uh they were actually separating
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Out video into a three a spatial video in real time Scoops so that's not something official from Apple but
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something I've heard from like the hydrogen screen remember the hydrogen yeah yeah
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so that's no I like that I think that's cool I think my favorite feature from Vision OS is the Mac display getting way more resolution yes so if you guys
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remember the vision review one of the things that they do in the Vision Pro is fiated rendering all that really means
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is what you look at is sharp and rendered in high resolution and what you're not looking at because it's tracking your eyes doesn't have to be
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rendered in as high of a resolution but when you load it up Mac virtual display you could see it in the screen recordings it rendered the whole thing
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in Full Resolution all the time so they're adding that fiated rendering that is happening on the Mac to the
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virtual display so now it can give you an even larger canvas with more pixels because it's not rendering it all at
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once so you can go like Ultra 8K yeah they did this cool animation in the keynote where it like came out a little
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bit and they were like you can do an ultra wide except you can do really Ultra wide and then extend it even more
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which is cool um I would prefer that if you could just have multiple windows Al together CU that's how I like to segment
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out my screens true um but you know I'm sure that they're like What's the difference so the new Mac OS which we'll
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get to later has window snapping so it kind of feel like displays yeah sort of and I'm wondering how the window snapping works if you're extending it with Vision Pro on an ultra wide yeah is
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like where does that go I you can still use an ultra wide as a monitor and it would have that right so it's just going
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to treat it as an ult I guess so but then the windows would just be individually really long and you can only snap two cuz they you SN side by
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side though right so he's saying you could have it like it's two different but if I had an ultra wide I want them to be not super long individually but I
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want like five of them yeah you know what I mean so anyway we'll get we'll get to the window snapping stuff later um travel mode now works on trains which
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is funny that they didn't have that before it like only worked on planes for some reason which I thought was
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ridiculous but it really didn't work on anything other than planes that is ridiculous just planes uh a big change
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that they made was quick access to the control panel with a new hand gesture so if youve used division bro before it was
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very very annoying to access the control panel because it was sort of like you had to look up with your eyes but
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everyone thought you had to look up with your head I when I first had it like it doesn't explain exactly how to do that
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so I kept being like all the way up looking at the ceiling and then I would get it and then one day it just popped
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up when I looked up and I was like I'm an idiot I've been doing this the whole time right so now you can do a hand gesture that makes it a lot easier uh
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and possibly the biggest update now you can see your magic keyboard in an environment wow and you can also use a mouse right yes you can use any Mouse but you have to use the magic keyboard
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okay which is annoying what yeah every keyboard is at least a quiry layout you can definitely andw tell them andw tell
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them I know there's keyboards and like some them have hour Keys those are quty yeah yeah but they're all Cordy so like
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you can definitely map out the Cordy part of a keyboard and just I do think that the semantic segmentation of just
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knowing that you're looking at a keyboard is going to be good enough and you shouldn't have to be like I'm identifying specifically a magic
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keyboard yeah which so I guess the question is is it's it's rendering the magic keyboard out inside of it it's
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just a cutout so the same way when you had your hands in front of your face you can see your hands that's not a render of your hands that's literally a cut out
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from the background of your hands it'll do the same thing now with a keyboard if it sees a keyboard front of you it doesn't cut out so that makes no sense cuz you can cut out any other keyboard
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it's a rectangle it doesn't matter if it's quiry it just matters ifct look the the thing is if they can do that with
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the mouse they can do it with the keyboard and it identifies any Mouse any Mouse I'm just saying they're not
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mapping something over over the mouse exactly so they cannot map over the keyboard wouldn't the cutouts need to be
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mapped in 3D space like even if they're not wrapping a texture around it like wouldn't they still need 3D data to cut
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out your hands to begin with sure yeah but you know how in the beginning of the Vision Pro
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setup process you do like a hand scan like this and then you flip your hands over just add a step where do you have a
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keyboard Sure hold it up now you've got a keyboard it's infinitely easier than a hand cut out so it's so easy all I'll
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say is that on the The Meta The Meta The Meta ecosystem they only support specific keyboards yes but the meta ecosystem also Maps a animated version of your hands to your hands it literally
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overlays it with an animated version of you I thought the meta thing was it just cut out like a box on your Des desk
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that's one of the options but if you have one of the supported keyboard like the Logitech MX Master Series oh have a
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cartoon one uh yeah with that your cartoon hands like press the button that's fire I kind of want to try that
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no way it probably doesn't work as well but I kind of want to try yeah it probably doesn't work as well yeah all I'm saying is that if you can use any
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Mouse of which there are many you could easily map out a keyword I agree but okay so yeah Vision OS that's most of
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the big stuff for vision OS 5 minutes on the mouse and keyboard situation but let's move on you can rearrange icons on
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the home screen now just want throw that out there oh right we for I forgot to talk about small detail but yeah it exists another thing that's like how was
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that not a thing but yeah all right okay uh watch OS 11 now there's a new watch coming out in October theoretically exactly allegedly there
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could be maybe sources say sure that the Apple Watch series X is coming out in October which is supposed to be a new design and last year they did a huge huge change on the OS design of watch OS
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10 and so because of that we weren't really expecting a lot of new things in watch OS 11 of which we didn't really
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get much we basically got two new apps uh there is now an app called vitals which is basically trying to be the
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Garmin body battery feature or like the whoop the whoop or the yeah a lot of EX a lot of Fitness bands have had this for years but a big reason people have stuck to garments for a long time is because
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of the battery the body battery feature and effective effectively what this is when you're sleeping it tracks a bunch
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of your specific data in your body and then if you wear the watch over the course of a number of days it can sort
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of map Trends and then it can use that information to be like oh you're more tired today than you're usually are
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because your heart rate is higher when you go to sleep and all this stuff and it kind of tells you that you have the
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energy to work out today harder than you used to work out on a different day something like that yeah it's taking in
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like exercise data so like if you push uh like exercise load to hard one day it's going to tell you the next day to
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Pro like rest or recover yeah yeah I just want to say if you're skeptical about any of this go watch our Dr Mike
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episode yeah yes uh but that's basically the same thing as this where it tracks your sleep sorry it tracks your vitals throughout your sleep and then over the course of a period of time it shows you
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any irregularities in certain days and it will suggest oh the these metrics are at this point and the reason reason for that is very often tied to the fact that maybe you're drinking alcohol or maybe
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that you're working out too late in the night or something the same thing they at sleep does every time I I get a notification in the morning it's like
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your your heart rate dropped later than usual yeah this could be because of five
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different things yeah any number of things one day I want to try all five things and see how bad my sleep score is
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like work out close to bed drink alcohol consume caffeine uh be really stressed and then just like try and go to sleep areally dead yeah um so all these outliers and
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then they have this training load app as well that works with it that is also kind of like the body battery and it
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tells you how hard it thinks you worked out when you do a workout so if you're exercising it's like oh you you put in a
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five today but you probably could have pushed it a little harder it felt like a nine Apple yeah so they do have a
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setting where you can change how hard it actually was and that way it'll learn over time like how hard you're working
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you can't you know this information I've never really found the use for and I might get yelled at in the comments for
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this but like how dare you it's interesting to see things about your body but I'm not going to like significantly change my lifestyle based on Fitness Watch information we brought
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this up on the Dr Mike thing cuz I've been using Garmin for over a year and I found that there were days where my body battery would tell me I'm like doing great like I'm going climbing after work
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and it says I have a ton of body battery left and I kill it and then I'll have days where it's really low even though I
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got plenty of sleep and everything and I feel like it gets in my own head and like that can literally Placebo I honest
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so much of it is mental and I just kind of wish Garmin just lied to me all the time every day it's like you have so
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much energy look at you go feel energized cuz you look great that's the thing yeah with the eight sleep like I I
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also have the eight sleep and every morning I I look at it and I'm like how much does it map to how I actually feel
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so if I feel great in the morning I'm like I bet I got over a 90 and it's like 95 you slept amazingly I'm
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like yeah I did but what am I going to do with that information exactly what is the point of that information P yourself
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on the back like I knew it yeah this week I slept real well Ellis how you feeling
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today ask I don't know I haven't checked my e sleep I didn't look it up yet I haven't learned how to express my own
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emotions um yeah okay so besides that you can now pause certain days on your ring streaks don't do it which when they announced this in the kyot every was
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like yeah you know it's like you can take a rest day or an off day and then pick up your streak right back where you
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left off yeah like okay that sentence pick up your streak where you left off I don't think that means what you think it means but okay I do get it I think that for people that like are going on a trip
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and they're flying for 14 hours and literally are not going to have time take the L like the rest of us thank you
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just start a new Street start a new street it's one of those things where it's like yeah there are there are days where you can't do it so you're like
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pause you feel really proud of your streak but at the other time your streak means absolutely nothing and it's a little award so totally there's both
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sides to this I guess it's like if people feel pressure to like not go on vacation because they're so competitive
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with their friends that they don't want to like stop streak or something then own that competitiveness and don't go on
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vacation what if the middle ground is you can pause it but if you do pause it your streak now has an asterisk next to
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it like an edited tweet so you have you could be like oh they paused this at some point and shame all of your friends
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I like that yeah okay you can now customize the widgets in the fitness app so if you like certain metrics a lot and
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you want to look at them first you can see that Fitness Plus now has a For You page because every freaking application
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in the world has to have a freaking for you page at this point isn't the Fitness Plus app a for you page no it's not no
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it's like suggested workouts for you yeah is it not for me who else is going to be doing it I think that it the only
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thing that it really does is is like if you just did a treadmill run it'll be like do another treadmill run but now
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over a long period of time it will suggest certain runs and stuff that you should do or certain exercises that you
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should do which in this scenario if it actually worked is one of the only 4u opportunities that I actually support because I think algorithmic feeds are terrible but that's just a personal
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annoyance of mine let's just step right over that rabbit hole yes keep going uh the smart snack is now now the smart snack smart snack smart stack you got me listening now is also
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now the smart stack is Now smarter whatever that means uh basically there's this little stack on your Apple watch of different tiles that shows you different things and now it's supposed to be more
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relevant to the things that you're like actively doing or what it thinks that you want to look at so if you're in another country the translate one will
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pop up at the top or if it's about to rain then the weather one will pop up at the top I thought that was actually interesting when they said that like
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yeah if I have my smart stack and then yeah the weather's about to change maybe I do need to remember to bring a raincoat and I just look and it's like
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oh I wasn't paying attention enough to notice that yeah I'm sure there's some small things in there that that's like the little quality of life thing that
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isn't as interesting in video and on the stage but you probably learn to appreciate it just made it better yeah
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uh and then there was also some updates to pregnancy tracking which was pretty useful uh I cannot evaluate how useful those things are but they seem pretty useful so I'm glad they're doing that
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can confirm that you agree also cannot what seemed pretty solid yeah um and then one other thing that they mentioned sort of briefly where I started kind of feeling like are we making these applications just way too
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complicated yes I feel like every year they feel like they need to add more to a product that is already so saturated with features that it starts to get more and more complex because they added a
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feature that was was like check-ins but attached to certain workouts now so they
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showed us a demo where the guy was going to go on a hike and he's like I'm about to go on a hike so I'm going to set it
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so that when I finish my hike and I get to a certain location it sends a notification to this person in my contacts to let them know I got there that's fire which is no I like this I
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think this is great I agree uh the menus that he had to jump through to like or to like turn all of these things on just for the specific ones seemed really comp
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complex and I just don't know if anyone really knows that these features exist so if they could do a better job on the
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watch of like letting you know like maybe when you start an exercise for the first time or you start a new exercise
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if it goes do you want to let anyone know when you get there and then it did it for you I think that would be great
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it's good that these features exist I'm not saying it's not um it's just yeah I don't know if anyone's going to know
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that it is a thing I thought and I may have missed this I thought that's kind of what it did do on the watch cuz it
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was uh I had to watch this with Lane so it was much harder for me to watch this so I'm sure there are things I missed
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here but it it was like if they went on a nightly run and they were in a competition with someone or something on
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the smart stack it would say like blah blah blah finished they're run and they're home safe or something I think
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that's what they just added cuz I believe it was like the check-in could be that you set it so when you get to a
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certain location it sends them notific ification you got home um or you could manually do it okay yeah but they added it to I'm pretty sure they just added it to exercises in this version yeah cool
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so anyway that's pretty much it with the Watch maos seoa Ma OS seoa yes fun yes yeah new new version of Mac OS mhm I think it's the best background of a Mac OS I think it's my favorite background
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of a I didn't even see the background what is the default background yeah I think it's kind of nice sorry audio
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listeners but yeah we're looking going have to picture a oh array of why this is like four 300 pixels why is that okay
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so so it's it's a mix between a ray of sunshine and also the fact that you're looking up the into the the way it like
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came in is it swooped down and then like looked up that is I think it's really cool I did not even see the trees until
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you P yeah yeah no I think that's it looks great as a background and is referencing it really well yeah as someone who is from the sieras when they were like we Dove deep into the siar I
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was like yes and they were like and F some big trees and I was like it's going to be Sequoia it's going to be seia it's going to be seya and they're like Mak
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seoa and I got excited very nice uh all right so they brought some features from Windows which was interesting they
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brought in builtin window tiling yeah I like how they had to explain this one without saying the word Windows the
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whole time so you can drag this Frame of an app into a tile into the corner of your screen yeah don't say windows yeah yeah you can snap Windows now it's great
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which is good uh kills the magnet app which is a very popular app that gives you the window tiling feature there was
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a good amount of sherlocking there was so much sherlocking at this wwz someone made a thread of like eight different
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apps that got sherlocked here I still think the fifth thing you listed to Tim Cook to rank should have been
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Sherlock you wouldn't know what that is true uh so I kind of hate the way that they implemented this I got to say if you go on the Apple website you can see the way they implemented this but it
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leaves padding between the windows that you snap so there's padding on the right top left and bottom I think it might be
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because they're obsessed with shadows I think the reason is so you can see if there's an application behind your
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computer and when you click on your desktop if it's not on a window then it spreads all the apps out like this oh and I think that they just want you to have quick access to that so if you're
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using like your entire screen you can quickly do that because you can't do that unless you have access to clicking
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on your desktop yeah so it's interesting when we see like oh my browser just crashed did
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it it looked like it was still on the side it's back all right you're on the beta yeah oh F okay it's interesting
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when we see a lot of these applications that were dedicated just get integrated into the OS level uh this happened for
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years on Android right it was like people would make Android hacks to make things work and then at the next IO it'd
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be like and now we just put it in Android in general and I think this also happened a lot with uh jailbreaking
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stuff has made its way into iOS just like root features like people would root and have custom ROM features those
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made their way in Android yeah so yeah yeah that was getting it eventually uh one of the most exciting things though
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is something called wireless phone mirroring which is really cool uh so effectively what this does is it shows a
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virtual iPhone on your on your display and you can mess with all of the apps on the phone you can drag and drop files between your computer and your phone which is really really useful uh they
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gave a really weird example they were like if you're in Final Cut on your laptop and you need to drag and drop
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files from your phone I would love that I could totally use that I guess could be useful I mean it's basically just
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airdrop with a better visual they said it's using Wi-Fi like a combination of Wi-Fi
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Direct andet Bluetooth but that it should be about as fast as airdrop yeah I don't know they wouldn't say it's airdrop but the way they described it was exactly the same way they describe
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air drop so take that for what it's worth I guess now the benefit of this is that you can leave your phone on standby mode which is really awesome MH uh because I hate you know being on my
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computer and then being like ah that file's on my phone and having to get my phone and then air drop it to my
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computer and if you can just like keep your phone charging throughout the day and do everything on your computer with
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a little mini version of your phone on the side that's pretty cool Windows and Android has had this for a while but it
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has always been really laggy and really not secure in the connection uh it always drops which is annoying sa fari got some updates uh it can now it
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basically has some AI features that will highlight things on the page for you um
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sum yeah there's a feature called highlights that you can click and it will sort of give you insights about
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things on the page and then direct you to different things that you can do with that information do you think this will actually make people use Safari I think
00:27:38
a lot of people use Safari on their phone but I mean like on desktop I think a lot of people think a lot people use
00:27:44
it on look at what you're literally on Safari right now you poor soul I think a lot of people outside are Bubble used Safari cuz it's just the default I
00:27:56
disagree I think everyone opens up Safari and downloads chrome chrome does have a huge market share it's like 92%
00:28:02
or something we're talking about Safari like it's Internet Explorer here guys Safari is good I mean internet it is
00:28:08
Safari is very good I think Safari is good I don't use it Safari is good on on the iPhone but it is if your parents
00:28:15
right now bought a a Macbook downloading Chrome immediately 100% mine would not Safari I will say on the Mac is the best battery efficiency and it's the fastest
00:28:28
so if you are going to be using it like when I had uh my laptop out for taking not during the keynote I had Ark and it
00:28:34
was the only thing I had open and I had 40% battery left on this MacBook Pro that should last me a long time it was
00:28:40
it was cooking through battery just for having Chrome like a you know that's because it's actually doing things Safari just sits there and no if I if I
00:28:47
do the same stuff in Safari it takes dramatically less energy no I know because it's a useless well I was only taking notes and
00:28:54
drive so that's all I needed but I you know Safari does use a wood less battery yeah yeah bro and chrome chrome is like
00:29:01
this evil dragon that lives in a cave and just sits on this giant pile of RAM and if you walk in and you try to get
00:29:07
any of it back it goes because it's useful it does anyway this feature is called highlights you
00:29:13
click it it'll like tell you things about the page it'll tell you like a summary of the page if you're on the
00:29:18
example they gave where they were on a hotel website that they were thinking about staying at and they clicked the
00:29:24
highlights feature and it was like do you want to navigate here which is weird to do on your lab top um you know cuz
00:29:30
who uses the the maps app on the laptop walk around with your laptop out on the street yeah so yeah it's supposed to con this highlight feature in the browser is supposed to contextually surface
00:29:42
interesting and useful things to you so if there is an address or something then you hit highlight it'll bring up that
00:29:48
Maps thing if there is a video then it will bring up a full screen uninterrupted video player with video
00:29:55
controls like if there's a video any on the website if there is I don't know a phone number it can surface that if
00:30:01
there's an article it'll summarize the article for you so it's got a nice Suite of things and I asked them if what if
00:30:06
there's like two or three of those things on a website and they said oh we'll just surface all of it for you so seems pretty cool yeah I'm excited to
00:30:13
mess with that yeah useful thing yeah and last kind of major thing there is a new presenter view for when you're on
00:30:19
video calls that kind of allows you to show different things on your screen a little bit easier in a more fided layout
00:30:27
and they also have built-in backgrounds for video conferencing apps because we obviously need more of
00:30:32
those true yeah and it works in FaceTime and zoom right now uh so that's pretty much Mac OS tooa not a huge number of things but um I think the iPhone Wireless mirroring is probably the most
00:30:44
exciting thing yeah oh yeah we'll get to that later can I do tvos in 10 seconds and then my favorite part about it okay sure okay cool they added enhanced dialog feature which like
00:30:56
a million other sound bars have already they added being able to see the actors and actresses on screen which Amazon
00:31:02
Prime has already and they added 219 support for projectors um but they added Snoopy and I want to take bets on what we think gets Snoopy at dubdub next year
00:31:13
because we got it on the watch last year we got on tvos this year what gets Snoopy in 2025 the iPhone you think the
00:31:20
Mac the Mac yeah Mac OS Snoopy I'm guessing Vision OS Snoopy in active envir environment whoa oh that would be kind of I just thought of that right now I was like that's actually
00:31:34
pretty sweet that' be dope kind don't mind that yeah all right um something else that's interesting in tvos though
00:31:40
is that that I found when I was looking through the website today is that if you're watching a TV show and someone in
00:31:46
the TV show says something in a different language it'll automatically throw subtitles on it only if it's in the different language and doesn't
00:31:52
already have subtitles huh which is pretty cool yeah I mean it's it's a little weird and sometimes I think that
00:32:00
you're supposed to not yeah not really there are a lot of things in here where apple is like I'm going to allow you to
00:32:07
like have this information or we're going to change the way that you're consuming this media even if the
00:32:13
director didn't necessarily want it to be that way like the enhanced dialogue the director now we're the director now
00:32:20
um yeah it'll also automatically show subtitles it when you mute the TV which is kind of cool oh yeah so you can keep watching if like someone else is like can you turn that off one of them was if
00:32:31
you mute or if you scrub back because you think you miss something it'll automatically throw subtitles on for
00:32:36
like the couple seconds that you skipped assuming it you think you didn't catch what they said yeah just to help catch you up yeah so that's pretty cool that is basically TV uh and then last thing before we get
00:32:50
to the ad break is airpods uh they got a very minor update you can now answer calls by nodding your head or re calls by uh waving your head back and forth sh
00:33:01
shaking poor G shaking yeah call from and also there is now smart audio noise cancelling for calls which is good because the airpods
00:33:12
mics have traditionally not been amazing I just assume they had that already I also did um I swear so a lot of phones
00:33:19
and phone apps have this already but I guess building it into airpods maybe it can be better because of the mics that are in it yeah cool yeah yeah anyway
00:33:28
that's most of the non meat wasn't there that whole the vegetables you might say
00:33:33
wasn't there a whole thing a while ago where they're at a farmers market and it zooms into like the apple crate and they can hear them better on the airpods
00:33:39
because or is that on the phone it's very possible that they already had some sort of noise can like sound voice
00:33:45
isolation and then now they just have like Ultra advanced voice isolation I don't know
00:33:52
voicex that's what I thought but uh I don't know and a certain tech company won't ever respond to my emails asking sort of questions so yeah you know yeah all right so with that I think we should
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so we've gone over all the wwec things that weren't iPhone or iOS now we're going to go over all the things that are
00:38:03
iPhone or iOS but not Apple intelligence right okay I think there's a there's a kind of a decent amount of stuff here
00:38:10
not necessarily like a giant update but again it's it's it's 18 years of iOS right we've got a very mature relatively stable OS so they don't have to change too much and oh oh they just ruined our
00:38:23
home screens never mind I take it all back they've ruined our home screens wait what they've ruined our home they've ruined it okay maybe it's a bit of a hot take okay wait yeah sorry cuz there are
00:38:35
basically two opinions on this one new feature this new feature on iOS 18 the biggest new feature is you can now put
00:38:41
icons wherever you want on the home screen and there's a nice little uh theme engine little tint engine where
00:38:48
you can change the color of any/all of your apps to be the same color with a tint so if you want everything to be yellow or everything to be blue or to puke green you can do that too I want to
00:39:02
say I came into the office you guys were here and I immediately was like I thought that was really cool cuz I've
00:39:09
always said that I that was also my first reaction I really hate I love on my Android that my homepage is clear and
00:39:16
I said that's one a huge reason I won't switch to iPhone so I'm seeing this and the changing which also is just material
00:39:21
you like that's them just trying to do material you and I you guys come in I was like I think that's really cool and
00:39:28
all of you looked at me and went it's not and I was like oh why they like it sucks and then like you showed me all these different examples and I'm like wow they did a great job at presenting
00:39:39
this cuz I thought it was pretty cool I have to say with this keynote overall I felt like there was a very large Delta between how excited I was based on the keynote and then seeing it in real life
00:39:50
and being like yeah I don't know about that so my first impression of the home screen
00:39:56
thing was the same as you oh been Ive My IC anywhere great like cing my home screen is a big reason of why I like Android same uh and we saw some
00:40:10
decent looking examples but then immediately we started seeing on Twitter people installing the beta and one of
00:40:16
the reasons people would make fun of the iPhone is because everyone's home screens always look the same they always
00:40:22
all look the same it's your icons all from the top down and from the left to the right and I think now you're finally
00:40:30
able to ruin your home screen just as easily as make it really pretty oh and people aren't very good at making it really pretty so there are a lot of examples of really ugly home screens on
00:40:42
the iPhone now like creatively horrible home screen I have so many thoughts here so that exists now too the ability to
00:40:49
ruin your home screen I don't have to look at their phones that's fair yeah I trust myself to make things look good
00:40:57
yeah if you walked into your house and everything you owned was tinted the same color all of a sudden yeah but I would have had to tint everything the same
00:41:03
color yeah but still no you would never be like this is better here's the one thing why I think it like At first to me
00:41:11
being able to actually tint everything one of the issues with material U was it tried to do that but there were always
00:41:16
like three icons that didn't follow suit and that looks terrible I think collectively bad looks better than 80% good good and the rest just not even Co
00:41:29
like coherently there here is my tick is that Android has always been like go wild do whatever you want so hard that they offered icon packs and they allowed
00:41:39
people to like build these icon packs that made things look really good and when they released material you you are
00:41:44
right they would be like 80% of the apps supported material you and if you didn't and it sucked but maybe you could hide
00:41:50
them but at least Google put a lot of effort into material you and what Apple has done is they've been like like we're not giving you any control over this to we are choosing how much control you can
00:42:03
have and the fact that every single app has to be tinted the exact same way on a
00:42:10
very basic two color palette very apple likee with very little thought into it it's basically like what's the primary
00:42:16
color on your home screen we're just going to tint everything that way and you can control the saturation it just I
00:42:22
I I don't know man I just think it looks really bad I think I'm also a sucker for that highlighter yellow that Craig did
00:42:28
on the thing with the tennis balls I loved it I think it looked good with the black icons if they had secondary colors
00:42:34
on the icons I think it would look good that's something that material U does really well is that it has a primary color and it also has a complimentary
00:42:41
color Apple can't trust you with two colors chill but that's the problem it's like it's black and one primary color
00:42:47
and that is it and it just makes it look really cheap and like a child's toy this
00:42:53
is It's Fisher pric material you yeah it's it's we have material yeah yeah and the the fact that the entire control that you have is either it's tinted a color or you're just not
00:43:05
doing anything to it is kind of ridiculous yeah I'm definitely going to try some I will say though dark mode
00:43:10
looks pretty cool yes the dark mode icons actually looked good the dark mode icons now have dark backgrounds which is
00:43:18
different uh I think some people will do some cool things with it and I think more people will do some terrible things
00:43:25
with it and but I don't have to look at their phones so fair I will say the the tinting um this clearly is a developer
00:43:32
beta so it's going to change over time but I tried it at the event and certain colors if you tinted a certain color the
00:43:39
text of anything on the icon will just disappear a couple of my icons effectively disappeared because it
00:43:45
tinted tinted them the same color as the thing they were right up against and they just went away and you couldn't see
00:43:51
them yeah there's a couple examples I've seen on Twitter of just illegible this is going to be one of those things where they're like it's such a simple change no one could screw this up and
00:44:03
then you release it to the hounds of the public world and then everything breaks and you're like wow yeah people are
00:44:10
crazy it was pretty rough anyway it's interesting that they're now giving users this power but I feel like they
00:44:16
need to change the way they do it so I have a segue into the next thing here which is Control Center and as a non-
00:44:22
iPhone user I saw this I was like that looks really cool and then you all hopped on me again and went no it's
00:44:28
really poorly laid out and I was like wow I don't know what's going on anymore okay so we should explain what this is
00:44:35
yeah please explain so control center before and everything up until now has been swiped down from the top and
00:44:40
there's all of the controls so if you have home controls there they are if you have media controls there they are if you have any other random controls
00:44:48
sitting there they're all there MH uh this new one is paginated so uh going have to explain what that means to me so there are several Pages now of them and
00:44:59
they are all oh sort of modular paginated nope I was thinking like Beauty P I've actually never heard that either oh yeah I mean it makes sense now the explain it maybe we're all just idiots oh sorry yeah that's definitely P
00:45:11
oh sorry you yeah you swipe down and there's full screen pages of these things so there's the second page is
00:45:18
just all of your media controls and you swipe down again and it's just all of your home controls and then also you can
00:45:24
expand and shrink a lot of these controls sort of freely so I think the default which is what most people will
00:45:30
have and never change looks okay it looks okay but this it looks okay I think but the second you mess with it and try to customize it you really get in the weeds and I think a lot of people
00:45:43
also make horrible looking uh control centers especially because there's now the ability for third party apps to add
00:45:51
and surface controls that you can add to your control center so like let's say Tesla app adds one where I can cool down my car with a button I can throw that in the control center which is convenient
00:46:03
mhm but it's also now a new thing that's also there so it's just it gets kind of messy I think when there's those like terrible third party weather apps that
00:46:09
have like the worst design in the world and are making widgets but you know they're also the most accurate weather
00:46:15
ones so you have to keep using it yeah there's a few things here I think that the idea is really cool I think that if
00:46:21
you actually spend the time to organize it in a way that makes a lot of sense and works for you it's really cool that
00:46:27
they're giving everybody this much control and that's where I live yes like setting it up spending a way too much
00:46:34
time like making it awesome that's what I'm going to do which is not very apple and it's surprising that they're now
00:46:40
doing this um but I can appreciate it can I just jump in real I think that's why I think it's so cool though because
00:46:46
I like my screen to have very few things so if I can think of a good wallpaper four icons that I've tinted to
00:46:52
a color that I like because it's only a couple right and then now a swipe down with multiple different swipes in there
00:46:58
that don't always live on my home screen and I can control everything from there if I customize all that perfectly that's
00:47:04
the Android it's the closest I've been to wanting an iPhone that's fair I do think that default could use some work
00:47:11
uh it now takes an extra step to get to your Wi-Fi settings be because when you scroll down now you have to tap into
00:47:18
this bubble that has a bunch of your networking stuff in it and then you have to hold the Wi-Fi setting to pop up the
00:47:24
Wi-Fi context menu and then you have to hit the Wi-Fi button and then it brings you to the Wi-Fi page in the settings
00:47:30
it's like it's like a it's like a five-step process just to try to find the Wi-Fi network to connect to and then the other problem is that on the
00:47:40
pagination there are there's a lot of pagination I don't know Beauty pagination pagination sure okay
00:47:46
pagination there there's a lot of redundant information so the first page has like all of these options that you
00:47:53
can use and it's kind of like all the things that were generally in control center before we're going to put in the
00:47:58
first page but then it also paginates everything so the last menu is all your radios but those radios are already in the first menu as well so it's just like weirdly redundant and that I'm just
00:48:11
reiterating like if you actually take the time to sort these out and make them the way that you want them to be I think
00:48:18
it's great so do that yeah that's good do that when it comes out nice yes yes do that yeah I think you know generally home screen customization is good I think if you zoom out in the broad scheme of
00:48:32
things this still isn't really that much customization you can move your icons wherever sure you can tint your icons
00:48:39
sure but there's still so much more that you can still do on Android I remember back in the day I had an I had a I had
00:48:45
an invisible icon home screen setup yeah so I had a wallpaper that had text on it
00:48:52
and then I had mapped invisible folders to each text so that I hit the text on the wallpaper and it would blow up like a SE it was just crazy set you could do
00:49:03
all sorts of stuff like that yeah and yeah this is just a couple more icons speaking of invisible folders they also
00:49:11
added hidden folders yep which just got added on Android by the way oh really yeah they
00:49:18
some Android phones had it already and I think maybe AOSP just added it yeah yeah cuz I remember there's been phones that
00:49:24
have had this but yes you can you can hide apps in a hidden apps folder I have a question about this because of the way
00:49:31
they presented it he did that joke where like Craig was like hiding the hair 3D modeler thing but he dragged it to a hidden folder but on the page you could still just see what app was in there so
00:49:44
like need to close the loop of like locking logging out or whatever does yeah does the the folder then hide what
00:49:49
is in there or can I just be like oh here's the hidden folder I can see all the apps that are in there no so so
00:49:56
there's a you know how there's the all the way to the right of the home screen there's I don't all these there will be
00:50:03
a hidden apps one at the bottom and then it'll just be like you you won't see what's in there but it'll be blank and you have to unlock it again with your
00:50:10
face ID and that'll be cool your hidden bad presentation part on that yeah uh and besides that folder you can also now lock individual apps so that they require uh bio authentication to be able
00:50:22
to open them in general like each time yeah yeah so that's good I guess yeah I really really don't want you to open my Instagram yeah do you want to know what my least
00:50:33
favorite feature is in iOS 18 what gen mooji same what your least favorite least
00:50:40
favorite I thought you would be on my side with this okay I feel mixed about it I feel mixed about it okay wait till
00:50:45
you see what Android phones see so I've always had this Theory where you know when they finally added RCS to iMessage
00:50:52
they caught up a lot of the features that Android phones didn't have so now you have typing indicators and high resolution media and all this stuff and
00:51:00
so they just went what if we add a bunch of other stuff that isn't supported again so we have a continual divide
00:51:07
between iMessage and not iMessage yeah and basically impossible to support in the future generative this is a lot so
00:51:15
this is malicious compliance for sure I just want to say when I first saw the generative the Gen emoji and then I know we'll talk about it later the image playground sticker integration thing I
00:51:26
was like wow this is disgusting and gross but the more I thought about it the more was this is exactly how I text
00:51:32
and this is going to save me like this morning like it was an essential message that I put in slack I needed a picture
00:51:38
of NS the rapper looking really disappointed and like I looked all over the internet I eventually found one the joke landed everyone laughed but if I could just and I'm already like
00:51:50
always open runway on my phone and being like disappointed NOS or whatever it is I need that day so I think this really
00:51:56
streamlined it 4 streamlines the process okay but we didn't actually describe what happens so so yeah there are now more than the normal six tapbacks so a
00:52:08
tapback just just is the official name for like the six reactions the thumbs up thumbs down the haha the heart you know
00:52:13
the ones you already know are there MH uh Apple's gone you know what you can do any Emoji as a tapback now yeah so
00:52:21
literally any emoji and if I'm on Android and I get one of those texts it just it's going to say the same text of
00:52:26
like like Marquez reacted with Star Emoji like great now if it's a different Emoji so Google messages hardcoded the six tapbacks that stand that go that
00:52:38
Apple was doing so that it now just smashes it on but now Apple was like hm my turn Google now I'm just going to let you react with any Emoji go ahead and hardcode all of these well and hardcode
00:52:51
ones that don't exist until someone generates them well so we're not talking about gen mooji though we're just talking about
00:52:57
regular Emoji all the regular emojis that's already a thing but now there's also gen Emoji yes gen Emoji generating
00:53:04
your own emoji and you can also tap back a gen Emoji as a reaction so there's just no way that can work both ways it's just only going to work inside iMessage
00:53:15
yeah I'm okay with that though I just wanted encryption from RCS that's fair if iMessage is going to build features on top of that that's fine WhatsApp does it telegram does it you know like not a big deal
00:53:27
I envy you cuz there are so many kids out there getting bullied cuz they don't have the
00:53:33
Gen emojis man they can't send back aend it really does feel to me like apple is maliciously complying they're like we're
00:53:39
getting sued for this fine we'll add what you want but we're going to make the experience terrible regardless we're
00:53:45
going to make sure it's still terrible did you notice RCS is still Green in the presentation uhhuh same color green too
00:53:50
I actually did Analyze That was there any response in the crowd for the half of a second they mentioned RCS yeah people like cheered for a second okay and then they moved on so fast that they
00:54:01
didn't have any time to do anything it was a fleeting mentioned by Craig so yeah the Gen Emoji is interesting because it was trained on the Apple
00:54:08
emoji set so whatever you develop looks exactly like an Apple emoji it looks realistic which is cool um you can also
00:54:15
now tap back with stickers which if you don't know what a sticker is basically you like cut out any image with the the
00:54:23
semantic segmentation thing that they have in the photos app lob it into your chat and then it can just be in your
00:54:29
chat horrible messy chat I love them yeah Discord has it and we have some great stickers on the stickers are like
00:54:35
they're at least attached to the messages because you can throw stickers just in as messages you can throw them
00:54:41
all over the place iMessage the the way iMessage does it is ridiculous you can literally paste it anywhere in the field
00:54:48
but now you can also tap back with the sticker it won't show it in the Emoji tapback area it'll hang it on the bottom
00:54:55
so hor I chaos we're vandalizing messages there's like superscript and subscript
00:55:02
and all kinds of we didn't we mentioned it but the the like animating different words inside of text messages also the amount of sarcasm that you can portray
00:55:13
in a text message now I think I'm switching to iPhone just for that just so that your iMessage friends will see
00:55:19
the sarcasm yeah so there are now text effects for individual words that you want to do so I I message had all these
00:55:26
features where if you said happy birthday there would be balloons that would go up if you said Happy New Year there would be fireworks it
00:55:31
automatically did all these things and you could also make certain text like big or small or yell and it was like six
00:55:38
different effects like that they added a bunch of extra effects and now you can make it happen to individual words so
00:55:45
you can have a string of words and just add different text effects to different words and it's crazy and now there's
00:55:51
also text formatting so you can strike through you can bold you can underline which personally I think everything
00:55:57
should have text formatting so that's good but it really it really does feel like texting apps are now just becoming
00:56:04
synonymous with all of these internet based messaging apps like they're pulling in all of the features just
00:56:10
fullon WhatsApp yeah yeah pretty much they probably feel a lot of pressure and they're just like we have to have offer
00:56:15
feature parody to get people to still want to use iMessage here's another nice little one that's exclusive D message uh
00:56:22
scheduled messages oh my God the way these work is just with imessage so if you want to do a scheduled iMessage you can type out the message by the way you can just do this on an Android phone and it just works but if you want to
00:56:35
schedule an iMessage you can write it out and you can go through the UI and decide when you want to send it and because it's going through iMessage
00:56:41
specifically it can also work if you lose cell connection or if your phone dies because it's already in the
00:56:47
iMessage cloud and we go to that iMessage user uh cool no yeah not not great it doesn't work everywhere play the clip and then then there's also messages uh via satellite which will be
00:57:03
via SMS or iMessage but not RCS yeah they said that they reduced the protocol they spent a lot of work shrinking down the iMessage protocol to make it work
00:57:15
over satellite and I was like I would like to see proof that that is true because that definitely seems like a thing you would just say yeah um but yeah so the schedule send messages thing
00:57:29
their reasoning for that was that you know if your phone dies or you lose your phone or whatever it'll still send
00:57:35
personally I'm like I don't really want a scheduled message to send if I lost my phone or if my phone dies because then
00:57:41
if the person replies right away I'm not going to reply yeah you know I don't know it's I think it's a bad reason because Androids have it forever and they should just do what Android did but
00:57:51
they will never do that yeah okay there's so much stuff guys there is so much stuff uh updates to the mail app not a ton of updates here well
00:58:02
we'll get we'll get into the more of the updates later yet the mail app now has categories it looks just like Gmail here
00:58:08
wait I can do a whole bunch of these really quick ready the mail app now has categories like Gmail the maps app now
00:58:14
has topographic View and you can do offline hiking Maps like all Trails another another Sherlock moment uh you
00:58:21
can now do tap to send people cash you know kind of like EV without having them your contacts without having them in your contacts just tap them uh you can now use game mode same as uh maybe any
00:58:33
Android phone with a game mode it should reduce background activity free up some RAM and reduce latency great uh photos
00:58:40
app now has a little bit of a redesign and we'll get into the AI stuff in a bit RCS it happened uh and also that's
00:58:53
it yeah that's the good stuff yeah that's most of the good stuff yeah yeah basically there's a ton of changes to iOS 18 iPad OS 18 got a lot of these
00:59:05
same changes same home screen you can make it look like puke um the control center is the same mess until you fix it and now there is a new intelligent tab
00:59:18
bar in certain Apple apps that will sort of float above the content of those apps
00:59:23
and you can change change around the way it works so it's basically like a sidebar that you're now putting on a tab
00:59:29
bar that's clever which I think is very similar to what Android phones have been doing the bigger Android phones that have the little contextual bars at the
00:59:35
bottom that let you hop around I think they kind of took that from that uh there's a new share play feature now
00:59:40
which is basically just for kids and people our age that have to do tech support for our parents that's exactly what it's for yeah so now you yeah you
00:59:51
can remote into someone else's iPad because of course your your parent has an iPad and you can show them your Taps
00:59:58
so that you can teach them how to do things on on their iPad and also you can just take over their iPad remotely and
01:00:05
do stuff about this can you do it on a computer or do I also need an iPad look they showed it with another iPad so I believe you need another I you need another iPad yeah uh but the most
01:00:19
impressive exciting thing about the iPad iOS 18 or iPad OS 18 is the c calculator you did it we did Joe I was so ready to dunk on this I was
01:00:37
so ready to dunk on this you had the Craig clip already pulled up and edit queed up I was ready to send it I
01:00:43
there's that okay for those who rewind a little bit the iPad is not how to Calculator app for many years and ever when I until the point where it's kind of a meme like the iPad is the most
01:00:55
powerful tablet the world but also why there's no calculator app like it's kind of a joke they needed M4 well so then I finally asked Craig
01:01:02
federi head of software at Apple and he wasn't kind of expecting the question but he gave me one which was you know we
01:01:09
haven't done it just because when we do something new we actually want to be able to do it in a way that's like wow
01:01:16
what a great thing that they did so we just haven't gotten around to the calculator yet and I along with the
01:01:23
entire rest of the internet and the entire comment section went that's kind of a joke of an answer you
01:01:28
could have done a calculator a long time ago yeah and so they started to actually tell us in this WWDC hey guys we
01:01:36
actually we made a calculator for the iPad and they showed the first screenshots and it looked exactly like ex exactly like the iPhone and I was
01:01:42
like oh you waited years to just give us this and there's nothing here yeah and then they pulled up a button in the corner that said math notes and he took
01:01:53
off the apple pencil and they started doing handwritten math and I went oh wow they did it they actually delivered on the promise of a calculator
01:02:08
that is really impressive and unique for the iPad now the spoiler is this is also
01:02:15
coming to the iPhone but we're going to ignore that yeah we're going to ignore that because math notes is amazing so what is math notes math notes is
01:02:22
literally if you like handw write an equation and it's mostly simple equations it doesn't do calculat or anything but if you just handw write an
01:02:28
equation 3 + 5 equals in your handwriting just write equals and it will write the answer it will write the eight in your handwriting too which is
01:02:39
pretty sick it's pretty awesome it can do division long division order of operations any equation you write you
01:02:44
just hit equals and it'll solve it for you It'll recognize your handwriting and do the math that's amazing it can also
01:02:50
do graphs for you it can also do adjusting graphs based on sliding around your variables it can do variable recognition change you can set your variables at the top of the page and then it will know that g is 8 plus 14 +
01:03:05
9 yeah it it's and the way you can adjust it is like if x is equal to 8 but you want it to be it has like a slider and you can slide like up 8 9 10 11 12 and like back and it'll change all of
01:03:16
the equations that reference that live adjust in references G is actually 9.8 m/s squar yeah that's true it actually is but actually 9.81 me second but the
01:03:27
fact that it does all of that through recognizing your handwriting and in basically real time I've never seen that
01:03:35
before it's very impressive I don't know if I would actually use this but if I was in 10th Grade physics again I would
01:03:41
be using this I would it's very cool it it works like I was thinking about when I was in physics class and it works the
01:03:48
exact same way where you set all your variables at the top of the page and you start writing out the equations and it
01:03:53
just fills in everything for you and the cool thing about this is it's it's not like taking away you doing the math in
01:04:00
your brain it's just taking away the parts that you had to punch into a calculator separately yeah so you're
01:04:07
still like you still have to know like okay gravity is this and so if I'm multiplying Gravity by this then you're
01:04:12
getting this you're still working out the equation on your own in your head it's just that instead of punching
01:04:18
something into a calculator it's just doing that in real time yeah which is very cool you still need to know the yal
01:04:24
MX plus b you still need to know like the equations you want to use but the fact that it actually does the math
01:04:30
yeah I mean it should it's a powerful computer but yeah it does it and it works in a way where you can change a
01:04:36
variable like lower down the page so if you set G to something up here and then lower down the page you change you say g
01:04:42
equals this it'll now know that g equals that just because it's lower down the page so it works from the top left to
01:04:48
the bottom right just a lot of very well-considered stuff yeah I was impressed I think it's really cool you
01:04:54
said they delivered mhm do you still think this was worth the what 10e wait to have a calculator on yeah because Google can do calculations too and I just did that this like this was really
01:05:06
cool and a great like presentation uhhuh but feels like you're not convinced to wait that long for a calculator like this was not worth not putting the calculator on I've never seen anything
01:05:18
like this before I'm not saying I've seen anything like it before I think Andrew what Andrew is saying is they could have just done the basic calculator View and then added math
01:05:25
notes later which is true also but the the argument that we all called BS on was we wanted to deliver something really special and we thought they were just going to do a regular calculator so the fact that they delivered on
01:05:36
something really special is why theyed delivered yeah I think fair I think it took way too long I was going to say could they have done this like four years ago you think they needed their
01:05:47
current capabilities he said this works A14 forward A4 yeah okay yeah so which actually a
01:05:54
few Generations ago yeah so now that they've built it and you may have an older iPhone or an older iPad you can still use this which is cool um but yeah
01:06:01
the fact that so this comes from one of the other features which we'll get into the i stuff later but script smartptt
01:06:08
script smart script is another very interesting version of this where it's not quite AI but you can write in the notes apping your handwriting and it will as you're writing live straighten
01:06:20
it to be on a straight line it'll clean up some of your letters to be more legible yeah will auto correct it will
01:06:27
auto correct your your handwriting it will justify it'll justify it so if you're like writing like this it
01:06:33
straightens it and then it also puts it against an end it's really I think this is really cool and like you can scribble
01:06:39
things out and it'll just erase it it's just like reformat and fill in the text where it was yeah all of that is in the
01:06:45
same vein to me like all of this is really clever and a good use of like if you happen to have an apple pencil and an iPad this is potentially gamechanging awesome note taking for you I need to
01:06:58
see how it handles handwriting because I have horrific handwriting so we're working on
01:07:05
some videos about these features and we're using them right now not going to show them on camera cuz we're technically not allowed to yet but David
01:07:13
no offense no offense but your handwriting was a really good test it was in cursive it was a good test I wrote it in Davis four looks like a nine it was a good test um that's just
01:07:26
embarrassing I can't believe you brought that back up so we're gonna try this a lot more but I I think that's kind of hand inand with the math notes thing I
01:07:33
will say I I thought the math notes got it wrong and then I just realized that my four looked exactly like a nine yeah so you do have to have okay handwriting
01:07:41
of which I do not um but yeah it's very cool they thought it out really well you can access math notes from the
01:07:46
calculator app you can also access it from the notes app you can just hop into math notes from there and the way that
01:07:52
they index it is when you hop into math notes it looks exactly like the notes app so you have all the separated notes
01:07:59
that you can name and you can like index by certain time and stuff like that um and it's just a separate section of the notes app now but it will open it in math you can save a bunch of them yeah
01:08:10
it's really freaking cool I I honestly if I was in 6th through 12th grade I would buy an iPad for this feature I kind of want an iPad for just smart script I think it's really cool and yeah
01:08:22
I've been leaning towards wanting an iPad lately uh know iPad needs mag safe I know they wouldn't announ at this but mag safe on an iPad mag safe or mag safe
01:08:33
like for accessories on the back cuz I wanted a handle accessory that I can just pop off really easily or to be able
01:08:39
to prop it up on things but not affect the actual and without a case I yeah they couldn't have added at wwc but but I do I do want an iPad with mag safe
01:08:49
just so it can be like a smart home like we talked about that for years so guys stop leaking
01:08:56
there are a ton of magnets in the iPad already and the way the folio attached to the back it's not called mag safe but
01:09:02
it slaps on the back here's exactly what I wanted for do you know how we have the robot iPad and I have that little handle
01:09:07
on the back I had to adhere a piece of velcro onto it so if I could have a strap that I could hold with one hand
01:09:14
that I could just onto the back that's first party and I know it's going to hold it and I can just pop it off that'd
01:09:20
be sick that would be awesome yeah right now you should put that handle on the folio like cut the front of the folio off and then like put the handle on the back of the folio so you can just pop
01:09:33
the whole thing off and it'll just slap on with magnets that sounds or they can just add Mac saave yes I want it because
01:09:39
I want it to work the same way that the pixel tablet works where it's like a it's like a yeah it's a visual Apple
01:09:47
home device that shows you your photos and everything and then when you use your iPad because I don't feel like I
01:09:53
would use the iPad that often but if it d as a home device what's the why can't I remember the name of the iPhone where
01:10:01
it's like landscaped next to your computer that's called um standby standby imagine an iPad Mini with
01:10:06
standby exactly or any iPad with standby mode huge as like that's the thing we finally have an OLED iPad but it doesn't do standby it could and they made it
01:10:17
thinner which I'm like if you have to put Mac if you put Max safe in it then you have to put a bunch of wireless charging coils so how do you do that
01:10:25
would want it to be they would want it I don't care if it's wirelessly charging but they're going to want to make it it
01:10:32
is metal yeah they' have to maybe they could make a glass circle on the back or something wait why would it matter that
01:10:38
it's metal you can't wirelessly charge through metal yeah inductive wireless charging doesn't work through metal
01:10:43
really yeah yeah yeah really yep the iPhone is glass on the back Andrew I just sent you a iPad pistol grip I think that might uh solve your problems well
01:10:55
while Andrew looks up the piser for the iPad we should take a quick break which does mean we've got time for some more
01:11:04
trivia trivia dude this looks oh no trivia music were you paying attention uhoh oh boy you mentioned Craig's joke app of hair Track Pro mhm while
01:11:18
discussing hidden folders on iOS but do you remember what Hardware he demonstrated pairing with the hair track
01:11:25
Pro yes question mark I need the full name and you'll get or the technology used in the full name I'll take either one for a point
01:11:39
okay Mar is so confused he's out of focus mentally and physically the we'll be right back thanks it supposed to like analyze
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01:14:26
this is now a 76ers podcast talking about yes but I just had a question for David
01:14:31
and Marquez before we jump into this at how was it at the event because we all didn't go this year so like what was the vibe like when you were sitting there during this part because for this part
01:14:42
for me sitting here in the studio watching it on the TV it was kind of boring was that the same vibe in Steve Jobs very interesting thing uh usually
01:14:53
dubdub is 2 hours and they go over each feature for like a little bit and then they move on this year they did the
01:15:00
entire keynote in one hour and then did an entire hour for the AI portion so at the beginning they were just like rapid and now the Apple watch has this feature and also you can do this and then now
01:15:11
we're on this oh tvos time it it was just like boom boom boom boom boom yeah uh yeah so they they kind of Drew out
01:15:19
the AI feature a little bit but there is a lot there so I mean what do you think yeah it kind of felt like a YouTube
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video designed for retention we all went there knowing that they were going to talk about Ai and they spent the first hour going they they they literally said
01:15:32
AI zero times in the first hour actually and we noticed that we were like how many times are I going to say AI it was Zero they talked through a whole bunch
01:15:38
of stuff and we were curious about it and there was some good stuff and the calculator blah blah blah but then when Tim Cook came back on stage it was this
01:15:47
moment of okay the kyot is either about to end or it's about to begin yeah and that was the beginning and he said hey
01:15:54
artificial intell for the first time and then there was a sort of a you know all right here we go for the second
01:15:59
half warm up in the first half they literally kept skirting the words so much they said generative intelligence
01:16:06
once they said intelligence multiple times and it's kind of crazy because they actually did say AI eight times in
01:16:12
the iPad M4 keynote and then they just were like you know what we're not going to do that he said it once just to dunk
01:16:18
on it yeah so yeah yeah okay so that was like the vibe there was just very like like anticipatory like oh it's about to begin now I think so we all we all knew it was coming I'm sure there were some
01:16:30
people there who were like oh wow intelligence yeah let's talk about that too but I think most of us knew it was
01:16:36
coming so that happened they uh they did it they rebranded AI to Apple intelligence it's Apple intelligence for them now the meme is real great I'm sad none of us guessed that it's so obvious
01:16:50
there to be fair we did do that entire video on things they didn't say and refus to say and the reason that I I
01:16:57
theorize that they didn't do that is because they didn't really have control over this word in the Lexicon like virtual reality they don't say virtual
01:17:04
reality or VR because other companies kind of own that now and if something goes crazy with VR they can always say
01:17:10
oh we don't do VR we this other thing over here there's all these buzzwords that are now associated with like
01:17:16
negative things like metaverse or crypto like it's all just like scams and money
01:17:21
pits so they just don't say those words and AI for the longest time was one of those words and instead of continuing to
01:17:27
say machine learning or whatever there's so much pressure from the world that we live in that they have to be an AI
01:17:34
company like they just have to own it they have to talk about AI so they're they're doing AI but it's Apple's way
01:17:41
when it's positive and it's Apple intelligence when AI has a negative connotation exactly right Best of Both
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Worlds they have their cake and they're eating it too they they have done exct so to be perfectly clear Apple
01:17:53
intelligence specifically is using these new generative models not just the regular AI stuff so these are the diffusion models these are the large language models to do things locally on
01:18:05
the phone using Apple built models instead of just the AI features we already know and love from other stuff
01:18:11
that's the main difference so whenever you see a writing tool or a generative fill in a background of a photo or new things that use these these models like
01:18:23
image playgrounds and all the sort of stuff that we're going to talk about like gen all of that falls under the
01:18:28
Apple intelligence umbrella which makes a lot of sense as much as I'm annoyed that they just like rebranded it to be
01:18:34
based on their name I'm equally annoyed that the entire industry just took the word Ai and decided that Transformer based large language models or
01:18:45
Transformer based diffusion models are now all AI I hate that so it's it is kind of cool that they're separating it kind of wish they didn't do it but saying we're the only one that exists
01:18:56
but that apple is going to Apple so yeah yeah so I think my general thought well
01:19:03
actually I think we should just start with the fundamentals which is these are all Apple built models I don't think
01:19:09
that was super clear watching the presentations yeah but these are Apple built models and yes we asked the
01:19:15
question what is this trained on and we got a lot of the same answers publicly available information licensed data free
01:19:22
things available on the web that's kind of all you get to know about how Apple trained their stuff but answer
01:19:30
yeah and I didn't you know I didn't really get to dig or interview because like I said at the beginning like there was no time to actually ask followup
01:19:36
questions in these interviews I would have loved to have asked him about this stuff and followed up and I probably still will try to ask but the point is
01:19:42
Apple made all these models and the thing about these uh generative models is some of them are small enough and can
01:19:49
perform tasks on device which is the preferred fastest method you can do things offline they all happen quickly in the Silicon but there are occasionally large enough or complex
01:20:01
enough requests that you need to take advantage of a larger model or something that has um a little bit of a wider training set or whatever it is so Apple's larger models live on Apple
01:20:16
built servers that they will communicate with to to do some of these larger uh requests and then finally if you ask Siri or ask the writing tool something
01:20:30
that specifically draws from like World Knowledge or something that Apple's set of training doesn't really include it
01:20:37
will actually literally ask you do you mind if I go to chat GPT for this one and chat GPT is what they figure is the best one right now they've opened the door to possibly adding Gemini and others in the future um but it will
01:20:49
literally ask you can I send this request to chat GPT and you can approve at any any moment so any explicit
01:20:56
request for uploading a photo or uploading data from a query uh it's all free you don't need an account you can log in with an account if you want to to
01:21:06
string those things together and to use if the like Pro features of pro features
01:21:12
chat GPT and I believe if you connect your chat GPT Pro account that information will also show up in your
01:21:19
chat GPT portal right yeah um so that's that's the basics of how these models work yeah so all of that comes down to like what are the features that you get out of these models that are now on the
01:21:31
phone and on Apple servers uh and they are things like writing tools so anywhere there's a text uh cursor in Mac OS or on your phone you can proofread
01:21:42
you can have things Rewritten in different styles or in different amounts of text uh you can shorten things all of
01:21:49
those writing tools are potentially really useful um you can have it summarize your phone's notifications or sort of decide it's almost like the same thing we just saw on Android yeah I
01:22:00
don't love this it's it's kind of weird so they're they now have priority notifications and basically I think that
01:22:07
this is just their way of cleaning up how terrible iOS notifications have gotten where you get 8,000 notifications
01:22:13
on your page but now it'll show you priority notifications based on a number of factors like when it was sent if
01:22:19
there's a text inside of the notification that says things like tonight or uh in two hours or something like that it'll surface those to the top that's cool the thing I don't love about it is
01:22:31
that it just summarizes the notification and tells you something here so if my friend Kylie texted me it'd be like
01:22:38
Kylie wants to know when you want to have dinner instead of just showing me her message that says do you want when
01:22:44
do you want to have dinner tonight and that just feels a little bit impersonal but it is it does act in a way that a
01:22:51
actual human personal assistant would act right it's giv you notifications and you click on it and then you can reply
01:22:57
to your text so there is that I think there was also if certain apps are sending too many notifications and
01:23:03
you're not actually like using them or or going through them yeah so it can use the figure that out and prioritize ones that you actually are responding to and and activating which I thought seemed
01:23:16
pretty cool the Google home app will if I don't do anything it'll just send me notifications of there is motion there
01:23:22
is motion there is motion there is motion and I don't click it but then it might be like the doorbell just rang I
01:23:27
don't need to know about all the motion stuff but I probably do want to know about the doorbell so stuff like that but I still want you to record all the motion and I want yeah exactly some of
01:23:34
those settings are really annoying in Google home and then uh there's all the generative stuff so there is a new feature in the Apple photos app which
01:23:41
will let you do exactly what magic eraser does on the pixel and all the Google phones which is it'll figure out
01:23:48
what's the foreground figure out what's the background and unwanted subjects and allow you to erase them yeah it does
01:23:53
this actually I think a little bit better than magic raser does right now it's pretty clean yeah yeah they they
01:24:00
speaking of clean they call the feature cleanup so you click the cleanup button and then it highlights automatically the
01:24:06
objects that it thinks you want to get rid of which is already pretty cool Google also does that oh it's just not
01:24:11
as colorful and pretty got it yeah but then also they'll like Circle something else and remove it which cleverly would
01:24:18
obscure part of your circle if it went behind the subject just like little stuff like that works better yeah I was
01:24:25
say I immediately noticed that and when David came in I was like was that on purpose or like a bad edit but like no
01:24:30
it's it's recognizing the subject and circling behind it so you're not worried about like chipping off your shoulder
01:24:36
because somebody walked right behind you shot with magic eraser you had to be very careful about making sure that you
01:24:42
didn't actually erase over something else but because this is doing that semantic segmentation where it knows
01:24:48
where the foreground and the background is if it sees you circling over the background first you can still hover
01:24:53
over the foreground and it'll only erase the background which is very smart yeah
01:24:59
there's also uh the image playground app which will literally let you this is so
01:25:05
weird but it's literally just an image generation app it'll give you a little square image of whatever prompt you want
01:25:13
in literally one of three Styles what are the Styles it was drawing illustrations illust sketch and
01:25:19
something else right the very B like a super limited image generation tool basic and so that makes it very clear
01:25:27
why you should also have the ability to go to chat GPT and generate other images
01:25:32
because these AR great these are very limited yeah they they made a dedicated image playground app too which I don't
01:25:40
it's kind of weird it's it basically is like a dedicated Dolly tool yeah and you can use it to create images and then it
01:25:47
upscales it and then you can use it in other apps and stuff this is the one thing where I'm like gen Emoji made
01:25:52
sense because you already we already had these emoji and now you're just generating new emojis in the Apple emoji
01:25:59
style but this is just like an image generation tool built onto the device which I'm like does anyone actually like
01:26:06
that I thought they showed a few good examples whether those specific ones were because I know you guys were
01:26:12
talking about this before but one of them was like is that uh image playground sorry I already forgot what yeah image playground like if you were
01:26:17
in notes and say you were writing something and you wanted to have an image if you like drew a circle then it
01:26:23
would take the context of things you were writing around plug those in you can add anything and then it would
01:26:28
create an image that fits with that yeah so that's called magic wand is a new feature they're introducing Ste that's
01:26:34
the same thing it's using that to get in there the way it connects through the other first party apps I thought was
01:26:41
pretty cool do you know what they should do with image playground let you connect it to whatever an emoji was using so now
01:26:49
you can create something and then no no no no an emoji where you used to be able to make you make a shark talk so now in
01:26:58
image playground I could create a bunny chef and I could speak as the bunny Chef
01:27:05
yo Tim are you watching this Tim Cook are you watching this 19 baby that's Could Happen yeah yeah so that's all
01:27:13
stuff that's you know different levels of useful and I guess the last one that got a big update is Siri Yeah Siri has
01:27:19
gone forever without any major updates and this being the first big one it gets a new animation it's got this full outside of the screen like you know pretty subtle but nice animation when
01:27:31
you talk to it we haven't heard a new voice but there seems to be some Rumblings about a new voice so we'll check out if there's any voice updates
01:27:38
um by the way I watched her on the plane just throw that one out there podcast canceled this is all we're talking about it's not so I can confirm that the new Siri is not Scarlett Johansson's voice
01:27:51
but now when I hear Scarlett Johansson's voice I think of her the movie MH what'
01:27:57
you think yeah rate it decent movie decent movie I thought you know it's not my typical style of movie but I I would say I'm glad I watched it and I
01:28:08
appreciated a lot of the takes about the different pros and cons of relationship with AI interesting that's what I wanted
01:28:16
me personally six cool me personally they got some things really right and like things they got right everyone uses
01:28:23
airpods they got wrong everyone uses surface Duo yeah I guess I I didn't know when the movie
01:28:30
came out when I watched it now knowing that it's like a 10-year-old movie it was like oh they got a lot of stuff one year before airpods yeah the ear the
01:28:37
earpiece thing was solid yeah also when she generates music and generates pictures and she's like it's a new
01:28:43
update and uh I don't know I thought true yeah yeah so yeah anyway so it's cool we've all seen her now except for oh right except for him
01:28:55
Andrew him manganelli never seen her Andrew mangelli mang himman Yeah Siri Siri has a whole bunch of abilities and coming later this year
01:29:08
I think are some more even more important abilities which are the ability to plug into and take actions inside of apps yeah um you remember when
01:29:15
Bix that was like bixby's thing where I could like set my alarm for 7:30 and also send uh my address to like send a text with my address like it could do things for you inside of apps Siri is
01:29:27
going to get that ability and with third party apps as well that could be cool and when is so this is something I was a
01:29:32
little confused about maybe you guys got do you know when that's coming later this year yeah because they like very
01:29:38
quickly segmented the AI sorry the Apple uh intelligence part where they said that and then they were like and there's lots of other new things coming to Siri after the launch and then very quickly
01:29:50
went into these new things which was like the inapp Siri integration so it's not coming out when iOS
01:29:58
and seems like that one is post launched hard to say it sounds like my prediction of Siri being very
01:30:04
whelming is on the track yeah they should give it like an apple marketing name like maybe like a like because it's like an AI that goes and like uses apps for you like a cute animal name like
01:30:16
lamb I don't know that be kind of fun something like that so there's a there's a lot to talk about with the new
01:30:22
Siri it's it's very interesting she got a new logo but only in the new Siri versions so the new logo sort of looks
01:30:28
like it looks like a neural network but without the the neurons going in between each other so it's sort of the circular
01:30:34
neural network um and it only exists on the phones and on 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max because it requires the A7 Pro chip or
01:30:48
M1 forward laptops and Mac yes which yes does does mean that old iPhones and iPhone 15s will have a different Ser
01:31:00
yeah from the new iPhone 15 and the watch still has the old series The Watch still has the old Siri so there's now
01:31:06
two different series it's weird so yeah homepod not getting better with the new Siri yeah I know you guys had hopes for the homepod yeah um kind of reminiscent
01:31:17
of assistant and Bard in a weird way not that there's that big of a Delta between functionality yeah exactly the artist
01:31:24
probably know so just this this Delta in functionality Apple's being I don't want
01:31:30
to say in more intentional it feels a little bit intentional but it's also yes it's like the newest silicon is the most
01:31:37
capable so at least I get it whereas Google feels more accidental like we are focusing on one thing and forgot about the other one yeah but it is yeah it is
01:31:43
kind of weird that there will not be new Siri on iPhone 15 yeah it is weird the the biggest updates are really the more natural language processing so now context aware stuff yeah they
01:31:55
intentionally like all of their demos were like Hey Siri set my alarm for seven you know what I don't like getting
01:32:02
up that early set it for 9:30 you know I one of my pet peeves was the way Apple I'm I'm roasting them for no reason right now but the way
01:32:13
Apple employees fake a bad prompt is so bad it's pretty bad uh set an alarm for um just kidding set a timer for 2 minutes like no okay great you were very
01:32:26
clear about what you want us to do there but how does it work in the real world usually I just stumble over my words or
01:32:31
used the wrong keywords yeah which is good is cool because when Google Assistant first came out in 2016 Adam
01:32:37
and I were both working for Android authority and I remember my boss at the time had no idea how to prompt these
01:32:42
things so these Google homes came out and he's like hey G um can you uh can you like what um I don't know like maybe like tell order some stuff for me from
01:32:54
the groceries and he was literally like this and I had to be like you can't talk
01:32:59
to it that way you have to use very specific keywords yeah um so now you can which is very cool more humanlike very humanlike um and then I think the fact that you can ask it to do certain things
01:33:11
in your phone is really awesome there they had some really cool examples like there was a play the podcast that Jamie
01:33:19
recommended yeah which is awesome cuz it's then it's reaching into all your communication with Jamie whether it's an email or messages this was the moment to
01:33:27
me that cemented that rabbit and Hume never had a chance this not that I mean we the blips on the radar you said in the interiew these Standalone AI devices
01:33:39
don't know anything about you and also stubbornly refuse to connect to your phone so they don't know anything about
01:33:45
your contacts anything about your lifestyle where where you live any of this stuff that your phone knows and
01:33:51
obviously Tim Cook like emphasized AI must be personal but clearly if you can ask the new Siri there was a thing where I think it said like find every picture I have of this person with this pink
01:34:04
dress on from that trip we went to that one place and it goes okay I know what this person is because of your photos I know what they look like I know what a pink dress looks like and I know the GPS
01:34:15
tags of your photos and it just pulls up all the exact photos which if that works is really impressive because it knows
01:34:21
everything it has all that information it can dig through your phone it can do everything locally and it's fast and it just works where the Humane pin never
01:34:27
had a shot at doing any of that because it doesn't know or have any of those those photos starting fresh I feel like
01:34:33
that's the magic of when we years ago when we realized you can type into Google like who is that actor with the
01:34:40
blue jacket in the movie about this and but now it's about your personal stuff and you can just find that on your phone and that's that's really cool considering like that is so powerful
01:34:51
that I can actually see myself using Siri all the time now because you can just hit like the action button and it
01:34:57
comes up also you can out type the Siri which is very cool you just tap at the bottom of the iPhone and a little key a
01:35:02
Siri keyboard comes up over whatever app you're in yeah so uh you could be in the
01:35:08
messages app or something and you could hit the little button at the bottom and be like hey can you schedule a thing to
01:35:13
this person and it'll automatically do it and it's also uh screen contents aware yes so if there's something
01:35:19
happening on your screen you can ask Siri something about what's on your screen which is cool yeah so yeah I
01:35:24
think being able to reach into apps like that and pull out contextual information is very very very cool but there was one
01:35:30
example they showed that you were complaining about before that's very funny which is it can reach into Apps
01:35:37
but then when you ask it to do things on your phone do you want to well so a a bunch of the examples that it gave were like oh you don't know how to do this so you asked Siri like hey Siri how do I
01:35:49
schedule to send a a message and then it pulls up a little like from Apple instructional manual tutorial like step by step and it's like why wouldn't you just tell it to schedule the message
01:36:01
instead of asking for the manual yeah know anyone who would ask for instructions they would ask it to do the
01:36:06
thing yeah do the thing that I want you to do right exactly yeah it has all these app capabilities and then when it
01:36:12
seems like it's setting based things or yeah like how to do something it just doesn't do it it's almost like that the
01:36:18
end prompt of all the Google Assistant when you're like uh hey can you turn off the lights and it's like it does it and then it says like by the way if you didn't know you can try and do like this
01:36:29
thing single time you do it yeah it's really really annoying but just do the thing because I I can see it bringing up
01:36:36
a prompt of how to do things and then like this is better because I don't have to be the IT person right but then a relative of mine is going to be like how do I schedule some message and the thing
01:36:48
pops up with the instructions and then they call me and they say the instructions say to do this but I don't know where that is M just do it just do
01:36:54
it just do it like that's the whole point is that you should just be able to tell your device what to do and it should be able to do it do
01:37:00
it I am very curious when this actually launches how the ux of this is going to look for example if you say send the photos from the barbecue on Saturday to Malia it was one of their examples are
01:37:12
you going to be able to see the photos to confirm what they're doing because that's something we were talking about like on the Humane pin like without
01:37:19
being able to see what it's doing do you actually trust it right yeah interesting yeah I have a quick question sure are we
01:37:26
actually going to call it Apple intelligence no okay Apple intelligence is just a suite of features basically I
01:37:34
just wanted to make sure it's just generative features I'm still going to call each feature by its name I think the umbrella of Apple intelligence just
01:37:40
helps us stay specific about what we're talking about but I don't think I'm actually going to call anything Apple
01:37:46
intelligence no yeah cool I don't think they really want people to call it that anyway they just want to call it AI or
01:37:51
they want to call it Siri sorry not just cleverly want to be like yeah we've had AI for years did inter yeah that's what
01:38:00
they love saying so I do want to pose a really interesting existential question that I was thinking about on the plane
01:38:05
oh no do it do it so now that you can ask Siri to do all the stuff on your phone and if you can also ask Siri any question and it
01:38:17
will prompt chat GPT for an answer are people going to just stop using Google as much
01:38:23
because what do you have to go to Google for nearly as much a lot of this depends
01:38:29
on quality because you can still currently with the normal Siri asking questions and it's not very good and
01:38:35
people would rather Google it so if Siri gets good enough at asking at answering
01:38:41
questions factually it minimizes hallucinations and it's a reliable answer to many searches then I could see
01:38:47
that being a real dilemma stop as much even the fact that you can say like how do I want to make like a nice chicken
01:38:53
parm and it says can I send that query to chat GPT instead of Googling it like it traditionally would do M I think it
01:39:01
helps too that you can type to Siri now so like it's a search engine there still
01:39:06
will be though like shopping and things that need to bring you to physical links where that will be but yeah it does seem
01:39:12
like it'd be cut like in half pretty much yeah if that's the case and if you trust it which people are going to trust
01:39:19
it you bring something like that to now the most popular phone in the US at least with in terms of market share
01:39:26
people are just gonna be like oh there's a cool new feature on my phone that does everything right it is so easy to use it
01:39:31
must all be perfect and that's not the case but I often often wonder I I wish I could see the metrics of all this data of like what people are using and how much they're using it because I just
01:39:42
want to know if people stop using Google when they have this um how long until Gemini's on the phone instead of chat
01:39:49
they said it is coming I know but how long I did find that interesting that they said it's opened it's they partner
01:39:55
with open AI for some things but there's space for other ones to be added as well so like we thought before that deal with
01:40:01
Gemini didn't happen because then we saw the deal with open AI but it sounds like it's just still happen anything could be
01:40:07
part of there which I think is cool I think smart of Apple because they don't want to put all their eggs in one basket
01:40:13
agreed and they like still want to keep there and this is something we didn't really cover that I think they covered
01:40:19
right off the bat because of how important it was is the Privacy aspects of of all of these different things in
01:40:25
their AI features which is like the things on the device are the on device things and even the ones they need to
01:40:30
send to that Computing Cloud yeah they said it's like on a server that they own running their chips and then it each one
01:40:37
has to be like third party tested or something before it even is allowed to accept queries um again it's a trillion
01:40:45
dollar company that's having things that they could make money off of U bu so you always have to be skeptical but I think
01:40:50
they did a way way better job at like saying and showing ways that they are taking privacy in presentation C Craig's had security so many times in presentation that Apple lock icon which
01:41:03
is one of the best icons they've ever made it is was like 30% of that entire like second half of the thing it was just like cool cool cool just remember
01:41:14
this is private like though and they had to reiterate it so many times yeah it's kind of wild um yeah did we do it that's
01:41:22
Apple and intelligence and it will come later this year so we don't really get to test any of this stuff actually most
01:41:30
of the features that they announced at WWDC on most of the platforms are not in any of the betas yet yeah so so TBD on
01:41:39
how well they actually work yeah but that's where you should just subscribe now so that when we actually do know
01:41:44
we'll be able to tell you yeah there you go and using machine learning your computer should have glowed when we said
01:41:50
subscribe I was say could you say like sir subscribe to that podcast I listened to before that'd be cool that would be
01:41:56
sweet that' be cool and then if I say it out loud and it's playing on their speaker yeah could when this comes out
01:42:04
we're saying that and just watch our numbers fly hey Siri hey Siri subscribe to that waveform podcast hey Siri send this podcast to everyone in my contacts confirm yes go
01:42:16
yes hey Siri play the trivia music oh dude I thought it was I thought it was seg well done Andre that's two that's two good
01:42:28
Segways question number one if you're there and I'm here then who's flying the plane Siri my Siri has been trigger
01:42:53
think I think we're all ready all right who wants to go first it was Phil it was
01:42:59
Phil you guys both got it wrong yeah yeah we messed up what did you guys write what did you WR throat
01:43:06
ja Billy damn Andrew were you there go that probably person knew wasn't there know actually I didn't even tune in that was a second time why we both think J I'm
01:43:18
very confused how you both got the same wrong answer they barely even showed him he had like Aviator and a like Pilot hat
01:43:24
on too didn't he yes is he like less present in the company now I was paying attention is that why yeah yeah oh at
01:43:32
least in presentations he's not really all right quick update on the score Marquez with 11 dang it Andrew with 10
01:43:40
Oh I thought I caught up David with nine I deserve that oh you do deserve that I thought you were ahead of me no we have
01:43:46
we're the same we are the same we're all the same in this beautiful world what Hardware did Craig feder demonstrate pairing with the hair Track Pro app
01:43:57
which is hard to say say that five times real fast is this an existing product or a madeup product it's a madeup product I
01:44:04
will give you that a madeup product wait do you do you guys think hair Track Pro is a real app no but I sound I thought
01:44:11
like he paired it with a real product like he was using it on something else I also find it hilarious that they were
01:44:16
they had to go around Tinder so hard wait what are you talking about because what are you going to put in your hidden apps folder when they started their example of the hair Track Pro every
01:44:30
single person there replaced hair Track Pro in their head cuz you can't even really put like apple won't let anything remotely adult even on the App Store to begin with so the Tinder is about the
01:44:42
only thing like you don't want anyone to know you have this app yeah yeah but you
01:44:47
have this app right there are like nobody cares if I'm using a hair styling app really embarrassing embarrassing
01:44:54
flip him and read what do you got didn't even write anything I did smart blow dryer that's a
01:45:02
great guess if it's not right we'll see what everyone else said Andrew what did you write so nothing Marquez I did I for I
01:45:17
didn't remember I wrote hair analysis product so because we're doing closest Delta with this oh wow got David gets the point the answer was liar hair dryer
01:45:31
yeah yeah you said a smart blow dryer that literally what that is I blow dry in there it should count the question was the full name or the technology used and you gave me neither
01:45:44
but I'll give it to you I think you should get it we're giving you the point don't I remember seeing the icon yeah I
01:45:50
do remember that as well what was the you had a bonus question we have multiple bonus I remember what the how about who can draw the app logo
01:45:58
the closest uh I do have it here in front of us it was green no no no the hair for the hair the hair Track Pro the one that he hit wait you going to let Andrew make
01:46:09
questions that he's good at no because our bonus question goes as follows in the intro cinematic again uhuh everyone on the Apple team was wearing Apple
01:46:21
branded flight suits with an apple emblem that Apple emblem comes from one specific Apple device what device was
01:46:34
it Andrew looks disappointed at me I remember what it looks like but I don't what device did that emblem first appear on wait first appear it only was on one
01:46:44
yeah I think I think both I think it's only you can only it's only part of one to one family and I'm not looking for
01:46:50
like family David you're out of this question does it just Andrew Marquez no I wrote
01:46:56
it down Newton all three of you are wrong what where was the the thing hanging from the back it was on their
01:47:08
back their legs and their chest that like stripe the stripe oh okay which was a wallpaper for a wallpaper the iPhone wait it was just it's just the colors
01:47:20
from the old Apple logo specifically the diagonal rainbow stripe is an old iPhone
01:47:26
wall iPhone 6 or something yes oh you want to do an even harder one I device I feel like that's on like multiple different Apple things it's just an iPhone wallpaper because it's
01:47:37
diagonal and it it's just an iPhone wallpaper I I think out on the device does harder mean you have to pay even
01:47:44
closer attention than that and you have to be kind of a psycho cuz we were like taking Furious notes and I feel like
01:47:50
we're at a disadvantage with the extremely nuanced question I had a seven seven-month old that's teething which
01:47:55
means you got the high level details it's perfect I wasn't even in the same room you just do this start it you know
01:48:01
you GL you like oh diagonal cool what sneakers was Tim Cook wearing at this year's WWDC 24 I don't know what kind they were
01:48:15
I can picture them cuz he wore them in my interview but draw them actually Marquez I believe he wore a different
01:48:20
pair of sneakers in your interview oh so if you want to name those I will also accept those I have both of them here
01:48:26
I'm assuming you're not accepting just the company name no because he is on the board of directors of that company and
01:48:32
will'll never wear shoes by another company I realized his glasses are Nike also oh yeah are they really in the interview they do have the front half was black and the back half was white
01:48:42
and I remember that all right let's see it it's what you're the one who edited all of it
01:48:48
uh I think we should give Andrew the point what did you put UT not a shoe he was wearing but my
01:48:55
favorite sneaker of all time Nike Cortez God I wish we could give it to you Marquez remember those like oneof one iPad design Nikes that those are incredible not on this time Rainbow Oh
01:49:09
said unfortunately no this time force he was wearing uh the on the roof he was wearing the Nike Air Max Alpha trainer
01:49:19
fives and in your interview Marquez he was wearing Nike Pegasus 89s I don't know anything about Je didn't know those you know he never came off the roof he's still there in the video
01:49:30
someone get him off he was on the ground halfway through yeah but he was back on the roof at the end oh the ending C the
01:49:36
ending part he was like thanks for coming to D DC he was on the Roof oh yeah I didn't huh do we think he's I think he's still there yeah can we have one more
01:49:48
question if I had one I thought you said you had multiple oppon I've given you four really I've given you two bonus four in total what more do you want from me guess that's technically multiple at
01:49:59
one point someone oh here it is here it is in the elevator in the elevator when the guy gets the call and he does not want to pick up the call oh yeah who's calling him I said this in the
01:50:14
episode okay never mind we'll go Grandma I but I need to know what he refers to his grandmother as oh first
01:50:26
yes Nana Nana I only remember this because it was so silly very silly so silly it was very silly I'm pretty proud of that
01:50:38
let's see it put Grammy gam gam the correct answer is in fact gam gam gang gang that was a fake bonus question right Andrew tied with Marquez
01:50:53
quick marz take us out before David ask for another one yeah I think that's it next time I'll be asking Siri the answers to trivia and just comparing the
01:50:59
answers with what I come up with later this year yeah later this year later this year until then obviously get
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