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One is to prevent Google from striking deals for prime search engine placement. Um, referenced how Google pays Apple 20
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billion dollars annually. Amazon has their own search engine. I missed it. No, you just said Prime
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search engine placement. Oh, you very much confused me. I missed it. Maybe.
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But yeah, we we I mean we've talked about how much Google pays Apple. [Music]
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What is up people of internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm Marquez. I'm Andrew. And I'm Nintendo Switch 2.
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We're going to keep this big. I don't really know how long we're going to keep doing this. We might as well. It's early in the SEO, so you know that might that
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might work. Thanks, transcript. Um, no. In today's episode, we got some updates. Actually, it's a lot of updates to
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things. Uh, Blue Sky, Apple Intelligence, uh, what else? Switch to pre-orders are on the list. Multiple
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antitrust lawsuits because those are going to keep getting updated. Um, so the tech move. So, the tech world. So,
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so tech moves fast and lots of updates happen, so we're going to keep covering them. It's great.
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Yeah. Um, hey, but yeah, if that sounds interesting to you, make sure you get subscribed to the Waveform podcast here
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on YouTube because it turns out a lot of people see these in their homepage and they do watch them and enjoy them, but
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then they don't subscribe. And it would be cool if you did. But if you don't like us, don't subscribe. That's It'll
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be really annoying if we pop up making a Nintendo Switch 2 joke in your feed every week and you don't like us. Yeah.
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Yeah. No, it's okay. And we make a lot of inside jokes. We do make a lot of You got to subscribe to figure out what the
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inside jokes are. It's true. One day we should do like just a big episode where we just explain all the inside jokes and
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that's it. I bet you reference that episode if you want to know what we're talking about as a footnote every time
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we make the joke. But we have two small things. First, the first one is within like a couple of hours of last episode,
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somebody on our subreddit made the crank prototype that you have to wind in to
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watch YouTube videos, which was crazy. Pretty insane. I didn't see it working, but I I'm going to take their word for
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it that they actually they only posted pictures, right? I'm going to throw it out there. If you could post a video,
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that would be awesome. I would like to see that. But it is not lost on us that we have an audience big enough that
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literally within 12 hours someone like made a stupid joke that we made in a game. So awesome. That's like crazy to
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see. And really, please do not bring any of the others to life. Please force Marquez to Pepe people up
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on Do and watch that horrible uh listen to that horrible song on Spotify. There
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was a comment that was just like, "How dare you for playing that that long?" I
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was like, "Lis, I can't think. I can't think. Um, but the second thing Yeah. is
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actually a question that I have for you guys listening and watching, especially here on YouTube. Uh, so a little
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backstory. For the last couple of almost, actually probably more than a year, last couple months, we've been
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working on both doing transcripts for every MKBHD video and more recently dubs
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in multiple languages for MKBHD videos in an attempt to make them more accessible to people in different regions who don't speak English. Mhm.
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You may know a lot of people who watch our videos mostly live in English-sp speakaking regions and watch videos in English. But if you live in a Spanish
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speaking country, you might not watch these videos unless you have captions or maybe a dub in Spanish. And so it kind
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of unlocks availability of these videos. So we've been experimenting with it and trying a bunch of different things. We
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found something that works pretty well for captions. The dubs are interesting because we've experimented both with
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humans who speak both languages, both English and say Spanish, doing a direct
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translation, but they don't really sound like me. And they also take a long time. They also take much longer and obviously
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are are pretty pricey. But then there's also AI dubs, which are a machine that
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sounds like me, but isn't necessarily a perfect representation. You know how Google translates a
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little dang faster, it's cheaper, but it's not
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as accurate. Um, we've been playing with this a lot in in different videos, different timing, different sorts of things. And the question that I have for
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you guys is specifically in our number two most popular country, which pop quiz
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is India. Is India. A lot of people in India speak multiple languages or do speak English or speak Hindi or or
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sometimes switch back and forth between the two. And some of them watch videos in English or Hindi. I don't know if
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you've watched tech YouTube in India. Sometimes I switch back and forth as well. And the latest video which was a
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Lightphone 3 review, we uploaded it at the same time with dubs in my voice in
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Spanish and Hindi. I thought you learned Hindi. No. Yeah, I didn't learn Hindi. This was actually a dub and
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interestingly Spanish mostly positive feedback. People watching the videos in Spanish speaking regions. What happens
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on YouTube is they detect that you're in a Spanish speaking region and automatically play the video with the Spanish language. And a lot of people I
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saw on Twitter were very excited like oh wow I can watch the video basically in English on this channel or in Spanish on
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this channel. And I saw mixed feedback from India because a lot of people in India like I said watch videos in
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English. And so when they opened the new video, it defaulted to the audio track of the Hindi dub. Oh. When they actually
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are pretty used to watching videos in English. Yeah. And so some people were saying, "Oh, wow. This is Hindi. I I
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like this better. I'll watch this." A lot of people were like, "No, I don't like this. I'd rather watch English like I usually do." Yeah. And so I had a
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small sample size. This is why I'm opening it up to the waveform commenting audience. What if you live in India and
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watch YouTube videos, what do you prefer? Do you prefer defaulting to English or defaulting to Hindi? You can
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dive into the settings and change it on a per video basis, but I'm curious what your default is in what you watch on
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YouTube. I can see that's a I think the biggest issue we have here is that it defaults based on region because we've
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already shown that India is our number two like most watched country. So, they clearly are enjoying it in English. We
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wanted to do Hindi so it might branch out to some more people. Um, but it defaulting if you were already a
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subscriber and used to it. Yeah, that's probably annoying to now check it off every time. I think that's why it hit. So like in a lot of countries that are
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not on our top countries list, they're not on the list because most people don't watch videos in English in those places. So if you just pick a random
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country that doesn't speak English and then give them a dub, that might boost the amount of people who enjoy the
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videos in that country. But in like US or bunch of places here that speak
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English, they don't want to dub in a language they're not used to. So that's kind of why it feels like we're seeing that level of feedback. Yeah. Our our
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other question is the difference between a human created dub or an AI dub. It's
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not even really the price that's our issue. It's that I think a human one usually takes about 5 days, four to five
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days where we can get an AI one in less than 24 hours and sometimes upload at the same time. So, we're not sure if
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like we've been testing both of where does it is it a good benefit for us because is 5 days after the release kind
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of too late most of the time. Yeah, it's it's a great point because most if you look at the curve of an upload, it's
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like this and usually after 5 days it's there and everyone's watched it who's going to watch it. Like tech videos have
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a really short shelf life a lot of times. Evergreen videos maybe people watch it longer down the road. That's cool. But yeah, I I do think we got some
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feedback about the dub, the AI dub not being as accurate. Oh, for sure. Which
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was our And I can't fact check that because I don't speak the other languages. So TV, it's definitely a pickle we're in, but would love to hear
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some feedback on a larger audience than just Twitter, I guess. Um, so that's why we're posing it to you all. But next
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thing, speaking of YouTube audiences, ha, I got that one good. Uh, we're recording this on Wednesday, which is
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the day of the anniversary of the 20th year since the first upload to YouTube.
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I could have phrased that was the longest that process. 20th anniversary of the the first YouTube video. Rewind.
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This is the 20th anniversary of the first YouTube upload. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Me at the zoo by Jod.
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Yeah. 2005. Yeah. The thing about those elephants is they have really long snouts. Do you remember the script for
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this video? Yeah, I watched it this morning. It's Oh, is that what he said? It's also like Yeah. It's also like 20 seconds long. Could have been trivia.
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That could have been It's chaptered off now, too. What? Yeah. Wait. Yeah. Really? I noticed that this morning. I
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was like, these chapters are flying by because it's 19 seconds. Intro. That's funny. Wait, intro chapter, but they're
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just all called intro. I'm very intro the cool thing and they must do they just like test half
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their features on this video. No, I think he logs back in. He logs back in. Yeah, he's notoriously like change the description of the video multiple times
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and like pin comments because he was a founder of YouTube. So when he adds something there, it's like the founder
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of YouTube just said something. Does he change the description of the video? Did you see that on the video there's a little birthday cake? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
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just for today. It might be gone by the time you listen to this podcast. But I thought that's that was pretty cool. That video can almost drink just one
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more year. 20 in the US. I can drink basically anywhere else. You can already enlist in the army. That can too. I have
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some interesting uh numbers I'd like to share with you guys. 47 that are pretty crazy. So number one, that's a pretty
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crazy number. Number one is this was the first video uploaded to YouTube. It was 2005. Since then, over 20 trillion
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videos have been uploaded to YouTube. Hey, Adam from the future here. So, I'm editing this episode and it turns out
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that YouTube actually updated their blog to say 20 billion YouTube videos, not 20
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trillion YouTube videos as we say here. Okay, back to the episode. If I had a nickel,
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you'd be wealthy, my friend. I don't know if you understand what you could pay off the US national debt. Like the
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amount of storage space. Yeah. The amount of content. Yeah. 20 trill. Not
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one trillion. Yeah. 20 trillion. I would like to know how much storage YouTube is
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currently active. 20. 20 trillion. Would you like to know that cuz it would probably blow your mind. That's why I
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would like to know. I would rather The other the crazy thing is 20 years 20
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trillion. So obviously we've gotten like a lot of videos per year. Yeah. There was exponential growth though on YouTube. Fittingly, on their 20th
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birthday, they found that uh there are a roughly 20 million new videos uploaded every day. 20 million new videos.
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LGBT is notoriously not great at math. Wait, this is this is really easy though. Sorry. It'd be$1 trillion.
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There's 20 trillion nickels because if I had a nickel, I had to use chat because a nickel is a 20th of a That is correct.
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Yeah, you'd have $1 trillion. But yeah, 20 20 million videos uploaded every day.
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Um, and YouTube users upload or sorry, YouTube users average over a 100 million
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comments every single day. 100 million 100 million comments. And I'm sure
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there's a graph somewhere of like 99% of the videos have zero comments and 1% of the videos have all the comments. Thanks
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to the waveform listeners for that. That's crazy. 47 of those are useful comments. That's where that number came
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from. So you said you said 20 million a day. 20 million videos get uploaded a
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day. How many comments per day? And 100 million comments are posted on YouTube
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every day. And 999 million of those were waveform comments. You mean 99 million
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cuz there's 100 million total. We just we broke the scale. I'm sorry. Math is hard. Um, the last thing is they
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discovered that creators, you know, can you can heart a video, you can like a video, you can pin a sorry, a comment, you can heart a comment. Creators
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hearted 10 million comments every single day. Wow. There's a lot of heart and
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engagement going on. You know what's an interesting thing about YouTube? The like feature. I don't like that the like
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feature automatically adds it to a like videos playlist. Um, same. Yeah, because
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sometimes I'm just like I'm supporting my friend. Like I was looking through my liked videos on YouTube today and uh
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mostly I just like videos that my friends upload just to give them a boost, but I don't actually like the
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videos that I like, which is actually stupid of me. Do you have playlists? Did you make Have you made your own
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playlists? No. That's what I do. My liked playlist is just me trying to like
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support people that I like and then I make the disc golf, workout, whatever
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documentary playlist and then just save them to those instead. Interesting. But if you use YouTube music, I believe no
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one does that. Wow. Well, if you like something like a song, it also still
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saves on your liked playlist or even shorts. I've liked shorts and it saves in my liked videos. That's not That's
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why that's a total throwaway playlist in my eyes. Yeah. And it gives you an Amazon ad to buy them. What? The shorts.
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Oh my gosh. Backwards pockets. Where would we be without Dude, I was running with the Did I show you them? That's
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That might have been the deepest inside joke. I I would like to see them. I will bring them in next week. Yeah, they're they're
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backwards. I have a bizarro backwards twist. I want to do trivia. It's not It's It's not for your trivia.
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It's for I have trivia for you guys. Just curious if you know the answers because obviously I know the YouTube trivia, but uh if you haven't already
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read the blog post, we'll see what you guys think. You remember when um the first ever YouTube video hit a billion
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views? Yeah. You remember which one that is, right? Yeah. Yeah. Which one is that? It was Gangum Style. That's what I thought it was. Correct. Okay. There are
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now how many videos in the billion view club? 1 billion on YouTube. Um closest
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delta. Closest delta. Yeah. 20. No, I'm going with 100. A thousand. 20. 100. A
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thousand. 100 is the closest. There are 300 music videos.
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300 music. They're all music videos. I think there's a few more random like kids videos that are Oh, I would assume
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they're all kids videos. But 300 music videos. And the fastest, which took 88 days, was which
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one? To a billion. Fastest to a billion. It was that Justin Bieber. It's not Kids
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Baby. It's not Despacito. It's not Gum Style. It's not Baby Shark. It's not Baby Shark. Baby by Justin Bieber,
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right? It's not Baby. Baby was the first to uh a million dislikes or something else. It was one of the most disliked
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videos ever until rewind. Jokes on you guys though. It's still a view. I'll give I'll give
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you the the countdown of the four, three, and two. Okay. Four is Rosé by
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Bruno Mars. 105 days. Oh, that song is a banger. Three is a really good song by
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Willie William and Jay Balvin. 103 days. That's a good one. Then there's a tie at two. Ed Sheeran, Shape of You and
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Despacito tied at 97 days. What? And this one beat them all in just 88 days,
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getting a billion views. Was it recent? Like in I feel like in the past year maybe. No, it's not in the last year. Is
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it old? You all know this. reviewing every iPhone. So, it's a song.
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Yeah, it's a music video. It's a song. Can you give us the genre? Um, it's pop,
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I will tell you. Is it pop with a letter in front of it? No, it's not K-pop.
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K-pop. My last hint is that the artist name kind of sounds like a tech company.
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Bruno Mars. Jay-Z. I'm just assuming Pit Bull's part of it
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somehow. Pitull. He's probably not solo video tech company. Man, this is a lot.
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Solo artist. Okay. Can you play the first note? She is the only one in the video. Oh. Oh. Ariana Grande. No. Can
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you play the first note? Give it away. The first note 100%. I mean, we're not getting It seems like we're not getting
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it anyway. I want to hear just the first. This is just the first note. We'll give it away right now.
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This isn't like Friday, is it? No. This is a Dell. Oh,
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hello. Oh, yeah. That's the fastest to a billion views. Yeah. Really? You know how I know that? You didn't.
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Sorry. You did not know that. You know how I know that that is true after hearing that it is true? Yeah. How I can
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verify? Um, my economics professor played it
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played the music video for us as we walked in and he said, "This song is a banger, guys. I just had to let you know
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this." Wow. That's my the only teacher was ever played a music video for me in class. 88 days. And now has three
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billion views. Jeez. You know what? There were like a hundred of us in that class, so it actually has 3 bill100
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views, but it only got one view from the economics professor. Nice. You probably watched it a few times. Definitely. For
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sure. Definitely. Wow, that's crazy. So yeah, there's your random trivia from Marquez of the day. Are we down to keep
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going semi off the rails here? because I have a question. Basically, we're already so far gone, we might as well
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because it's the 20th year of the the first upload. I wanted everyone here to pick their favorite video on YouTube.
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Oh, I did and say it out loud here. It can be, you know, funny, educational, anything. Just one you really enjoy.
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Okay. For whatever reason. Do you want to go first? Yeah. Okay. So, this is really, really hard. Obviously, it is
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super hard. Um, but one that really sticks out in my head pretty pretty strongly is the Vsauce video that's
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called Do Chairs Exist? I feel like we've vaguely talked about I think I've mentioned this video before. I really
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like this video. I think it goes I think it's like 40% too long.
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Right. For VO 1.5x speed fixes. Well, I I I actually recently hit three. Let's go.
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3x new PR. I can only I can only do it on my phone, but I've been doing everything at 3
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recently except for Hank videos cuz he already talks fast. Hank Green already talks very fast. So yeah. Can you watch
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Philanco videos? I have not watched one since like 2015. Yeah, you wouldn't
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survive long 3x. 3x would just be like a fire hose of information. Yeah, I will
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say so in the in the spirit of this YouTube thing, I think that's one of my favorite videos.
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My most influential channel for me was a channel called Nerd Writer 1, which was
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like the original video essay guy on YouTube before they became the OG before the category became popular. Very nice.
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Do you want to go? You looked pretty excited this morning when you were thinking about I thought of two. One of them to me is uh the the goofy murder
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trail comic video, but that's just a video that I laugh every time I watch it. I had never seen it until I started
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working. I think I've watched it at least 10 times. Essence goofy cover. That's a good But I'll re I'll recommend
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another one that I think most people haven't seen, which is about 10 years ago, and I shared this on Twitter when it went up. There's a video that got
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recommended to me called nobody tells us to beginners and it is a purely motion graphics video um which is basically
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just walking through an Ira Glass quote but it is about how when you're starting up as a creator of any kind there's
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always a gap between your skill level and your taste and what you believe is
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good. And the more you work and close that gap the better your taste gets. And you're always chasing that. Yeah. And
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nobody tells that to beginners. So you just as a beginner assume you will never reach the level of your taste. But if
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you zoom out enough, you actually have passed your previous best. Anyway, it's a minute and a half long. It's very
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inspiring. We'll link it below. I rewatch it probably at least once a year. It's it's a banger. That quote is
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great. Yeah. Did you he did a um Iglass did an interview recently on that
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podcast that started from the ashes of reply all hyperfixed?
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No, the other one. Oh. Oh, the PJ VO version. He's done a couple. Is it on search? Search search engine. Yeah, he
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did a video. He did a podcast called uh Is it okay to just work all the time? And it's basically just an interview
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with Ira Glass, but it is a very inspiring, very uh very interesting interview. I think you should listen to
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it. I'm going to download that right now for my flight. Do it. What's it called? It's called Is It Okay to Just Work all the time? And the podcast is called
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Search Engine. Yeah. This Reddit post that I just says, "A podcaster interviewing another podcaster
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about making a podcast."
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It's crazy how Reply All ended and birthed awesome podcast. Yeah. Yeah.
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It's like a neutron star. Yeah. He has a really good Iglass has a
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sorry nerdgass has a glass has a really good quote in that where he's like um he's
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like why would I put out anything unless it was incredible. There's enough midship on the internet already. Damn,
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brother. Let's go. What a bar. Anyway, Andrew, what's yours? Um I'm kind of between two, but I'll only say one to
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not make this go on too long. There's this 25minute documentary called Remain Seated, Please. And it's just a story
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about these two friends who loved this ride at Epcot Disney so much called
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Horizon, which was like this old ride that showed you like what the future looked like. And then they started
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finding ways to like get out of the car and walk around the back of like the sets and like on the sets and they
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videotaped it with like an old VHS and then they uploaded it like way later.
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Um, and it's just like really fascinating about them just like being these like full-g grown adults just like
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walking around the set of this like futuristic ride and they had to like
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duck behind so when the cars came by and like people were actually watching it. Um, they spent like years doing it and
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wow just like this it's this 25minute documentary where you learn almost nothing but keeps you entertained the
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entire time so you don't need to be like super 3x Yeah. It' be like 7 minutes long then. But uh
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yeah, I think it's one of my favorite favorite videos on YouTube. That's a good one. Uh I'm going to play Ellis's
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next cuz he's out sick today. But he did send in a video. What is up pod people?
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Uh as you know, I'm sick. Uh but couldn't miss out on this opportunity to
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drop my favorite YouTube videos out there. Uh, a lot of my favorite videos are these really long sort of video
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essay things that require a lot of context to explain like the defunct land uh Disney Channel theme video or uh the
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John Boyce Dave Steve video. That's a good one. John Boyce. My favorite YouTube video uh that I feel like needs
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no context is uh it's called Nightclub for Deer. Uh I do like it. I hope you
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enjoy it. You're good. You're good. Yeah. Come
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on. All the deer. Come on through. All the deer. All the deer at at one time.
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Come on. All the deer. More deer. Give me more. More deer. Come on. More. Give me some more. More. Even more deer. Come
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on. Come on. All the Wait a minute. Are deer just funny because two of the
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videos I thought of for this was the one where they're recording deer out her window and her husband sneezes and she's
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like, "Thanks, Ron." He's like, "What? I'm not allowed to sneeze." And then there's the other one where the guys the
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guy's dog chases all the deer. Fenton. Yeah, Fenton. Have you ever seen people
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Fenton? No. I'm going to need all of these links cuz I don't know what they're talking about. No.
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In the background.
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Where's his dog? [Laughter]
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That's a lot of deer, dude. That dog saw an opportunity and he took it. Dude,
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he's hurting them. He was like, "This is what I was born to do, man. Got to do
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it. Somebody got to do it." He's literally hoarding them like sheep.
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I think this has to be I I changed my answer. Jesus Christ, Phantom.
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Oh, thanks Ryan. Oh my god. Sorry. Those are quality. Those are quality. Yeah. Shout out to YouTube the purest on
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social media. Do you have another one? Do you have crying? Holy cow. That was
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so funny. Um yeah, I think mine is probably Do you guys know Tiny Desk? NPR
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Tiny Desk? Yeah, heard of it. My favorite one is the Mac Miller one because Mac Miller did a tiny desk
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before passing and he played a couple of like my favorite songs and it's just a beautiful performance overall. So, a lot
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of times I'll just play that in the background while I'm like cleaning the house or doing things and great performance. Highly recommend it. He's
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got Thundercat on bass. It's like it's it's pretty epic. But yeah, that one's mine. Hell yeah. How far into the pot
00:25:26
are we already? Cuz we haven't touched a single news story. We are celebrating YouTube. Um, we are like 30ish minutes
00:25:33
in. Oh my god. Okay. Okay. Almost all of these are updates, so we can like we can speedrun them after the break. How about
00:25:38
that? Okay, cool. It's a long break, but yeah, let's do after what break. We got to take a quick break. But before we do
00:25:45
that already, we we we do have more trivia. Trivia, dude.
00:25:52
Yeah. Okay, so Ellis is out sick again, but I have an Ellis style question because of it. Oh, no. These are all
00:25:59
real Google services that I grabbed from the Google graveyard. Oh no. Which one of these was an app that was used to
00:26:05
find group activities with others who share your interests? A
00:26:11
Grasshopper, B. Streams, C. Polly, or D. Shoelace.
00:26:19
Man, they just be taking whatever they want. Whatever word they want. Tibo.
00:26:25
Yep. Tubu. You want a hint? Tuba. Scuba. It was 11 months old when when they
00:26:31
discontin didn't even make it. Didn't make it. Wow. It's definitely not Polly. I know
00:26:37
that. At least let it get to the end of the year. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Well, we'll think about that and answers will be at
00:26:43
the end like usual. We'll be right back. [Music]
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00:29:10
speedrun through as we mentioned. First update uh which is just kind of a random but funny headline which is Apple was
00:29:17
forced to drop the available now. Not quite forced recommended strong recommended to and smartly complied. Uh
00:29:25
the national advertising division recommended that Apple remove the available now claim from the Apple
00:29:32
Intelligence website. I think that's fair. Yeah, I think that's super fair. half available now,
00:29:38
but also most of it's a bunch of different things. Whatever. Apple defines Apple intelligence however they
00:29:43
want. Some of it is available now, some of it is not. And so they were recommended to modify or discontinue the
00:29:48
claim. They said they disagreed, but they but they went, but uh yeah, the only part of Apple intelligence that I
00:29:54
consider truly available now is Genoji. And the writing the writing modification
00:29:59
thing just crashes my phone every time I even open it. So I just really, you
00:30:04
know, it's just bad for every image playground. I forgot that would existed. That's
00:30:11
about how taking up storage on my phone. I would like to forget about it. Yeah.
00:30:17
Um that's all just kind of a funny one more thing. Right before Dubdub, we'll probably see Apple Intelligence
00:30:22
completely. It's been over 10 months since they announced Apple Intelligence and like all the Siri updates and stuff.
00:30:28
Oh yeah. Yeah, they also shuffled the leadership that's handling Apple intelligence very recently because
00:30:34
they're just like, "Oh god, it's like they brought in a bunch of the Vision Pro team, right?" I think that's what Mark German said. Yeah, because
00:30:41
regardless of your stance on the Vision Pro, at least it's a product that is out. It does exist. It does exist. It is
00:30:48
available now. It is available now. So, yeah, shout out to available now. That's why they brought it in. Um, but speaking
00:30:55
of Here we go. things on the internet. Nice. Is it? What? You could do better.
00:31:00
Apple intelligence. I could do better. Uh, surprise Fedverse
00:31:06
corner. You didn't expect that.
00:31:11
Hit us with the Fetverse updates, David. Yeah. Okay. So, Blue Sky has added
00:31:17
verified check marks. Um, wait. Have they actually rolled it out? I thought it was only like it's rolling out. Yeah.
00:31:24
I thought it was only for certain like organizations. Well, that's how it's working in general. So, they they are
00:31:30
ver so okay, if you remember how verified badges used to work on Twitter
00:31:35
before verified badges across the internet just became payforplay. Uh it used to be on Twitter that you could
00:31:42
apply for verification. People at Twitter would decide is it important that your account is verified so that
00:31:47
people know that you are the real person that is posting from this account and someone is not just impersonating you
00:31:53
which when it changed to pay for play was very funny cuz many brands got impersonated by people and caused uh
00:31:59
markets to dip and that was really funny. Um it was it was quite it was I'm
00:32:04
not disagreeing with you. Uh so now Blue Sky after a long period of time has started rolling out their
00:32:12
own form of verification which looks practically exactly the same. Um they did say that they had gone through many
00:32:19
many iterations of different things like different colors and different shapes but they landed on the blue check mark
00:32:26
because it matches their brand identity. And they said they tested things like green but that it looked horrible and uh
00:32:33
did not really relate to the Blue Sky brand like at all. So, for a little back backstory here,
00:32:39
Blue Sky wanted the actual form of verification that was going to work on Blue Sky to just be domain name
00:32:45
verification. And if you don't know on Blue Sky, there's a thing where if you own your own website, you can basically
00:32:51
go into the DNS settings of your website and say, "Blue Sky, please use my website as my handle," which is the
00:32:59
verifying portion of it. So then when people see your handle, they can see david.com and kubhq.com and they know
00:33:06
that you're the person that is posting because you own the website, right? Clearly that's not super scalable for,
00:33:12
you know, everybody on the internet because not a super high percentage of people even have their own website. Um,
00:33:20
also no one has their own website. Well, technically you're leasing it from the Ayanna or whatever, but Well, yeah, but
00:33:26
I just mean like we're not the normal people that would have our own website. Yeah, very few people have their own website. My mom does not have a website.
00:33:32
I think it's also in general just scrolling through the app harder to tell because like display name still is
00:33:38
bigger and bolder and easier to see. Something near there versus the handle part of it is more obvious, right? The
00:33:44
handle is kind of there. So, they decided, okay, we're officially going to roll this out. Now the way that they are doing it is number one blue sky
00:33:51
themselves which is Blue Sky the company which is not same as the same as Blue
00:33:56
Sky the public benefit company which makes the AT protocol because Blue Sky
00:34:01
the company makes Blue Sky the app. I know it's confusing. They are basically
00:34:07
verifying important people that they deem important so that they can make sure that they don't get uh spoofed.
00:34:14
Right. I haven't been hit up yet. So flaw in the system. Just looking at my uh following page. The Onion has a
00:34:22
verified check right now. The Verge has a verified check on my page right now. Yeah. Uh there's a journalist I follow,
00:34:29
a tech reporter for New York Times. She has a check. Yeah. Uh I do not have a check. I don't think I've been
00:34:36
impersonated yet, though. Are you MKBHD? Uh yeah. Yeah. Can you prove it? No.
00:34:41
Yeah. Well, so there's a couple ways that they're going about this. one, Blue Sky, the company, is just verifying people, but they're also rolling out
00:34:48
something called trusted verifiers. Um, and the idea of this is like, okay, if
00:34:53
you're the New York Times and you have a lot of reporters, and generally when they start verifying people, this is the
00:35:00
same thing they did on Twitter. They start with journalists and politicians because the those are the two people
00:35:05
that the two types of people that spread news the most the fastest. Twitter was also very dominated by
00:35:12
journalists and politicians u before it even got big. So what this
00:35:18
does is they basically give an organization like the New York Times the ability to verify people on their team.
00:35:25
So they say okay we verify the New York Times. The New York Times verifies their journalists. That sort of allows uh them
00:35:32
to verify people much quicker. And so that's what they're doing right now. Um, they surprisingly got a lot of push back
00:35:39
on this. A lot of people on on Blue Scout were not too happy about this. Uh, many people said it creates a cast
00:35:46
system of popularity. Um, of lords and peasants. Of lords and peasants, which is what Elon said of when he made it pay
00:35:54
for play. Why can't we all just figure out the big problem on all social media is lords and peasants? Lords and peasants. Yeah. How will we solve it?
00:36:00
Yeah. So, okay. Okay. I I I talked to Blue Sky a little bit last night about this cuz I was like interested in how
00:36:06
this worked. Technically, the verification system is on protocol. It
00:36:11
is on the AT protocol. So that means that if you start up another Blue Sky
00:36:16
like application that uses the AT protocol, you can choose whether or not you want to show the verification, you
00:36:23
know, on your app or not. Cool. So part of the differentiating factor of an app
00:36:28
that uses the AT protocol could be that they don't want to show verified badges. If people really are that against it,
00:36:35
they can just use something else. It is cool that it's like built into the protocol. Yeah, it was interesting like
00:36:40
Twitter used to have they haven't said whether or not people with verified badges get like boosted algorithm reach.
00:36:45
I don't think they do. I would say the one of the main complaints I'm seeing here and just there's like please don't only put like verified stuff at the top
00:36:52
of replies that cuz then then it feels like really only catered for for sure like
00:36:59
Twitter I got really lucky in 2013 because someone randomly impersonated me
00:37:04
and I put in like a a a complaint that was like this person's impersonating me
00:37:10
and then Twitter verified me and in like 2013 that was like a big deal. So everything I ever posted had like much
00:37:17
bigger reach because that was the case when you were verified on Twitter way back then. Uh but that's not the case
00:37:23
here, I don't think. So I don't No, I don't really see it as that big of a deal. Um but people don't want there to
00:37:30
be a cast system, I guess. Yeah, I think it makes sense on any social network
00:37:36
where people are spreading information and representing themselves to have some sort of verification system. I I think a
00:37:43
lot of people are literally reacting to the fact that it looks so much like the Twitter one that they hate. Exactly like
00:37:48
it, which is a blue check mark. I whatever. I get it. But yeah, I think it's important to have this system and
00:37:54
the fact that it's supposed to protocol is a good thing. So yeah, I think it's a win. I feel like the blue check mark has just outgrown Twitter. Like now it's
00:38:01
also on Meta. It's like the hashtag started on Twitter, but now it's everywhere, you know? And the problem is that it doesn't mean anything anymore
00:38:07
because even Meta, it's just you pay for it and that's it. on Twitter and Meta, you pay for it. And that's YouTube has
00:38:13
it also. Yeah, but you don't pay for that. No, you don't pay for that. I'm still confused with the music badges,
00:38:19
though. I feel like I see people with music badges so much more in comments lately. I see that a lot, too. And I don't know what that just means you're
00:38:26
like a verified artist on YouTube that uploads to YouTube Music or something like that. Yeah, I think it's fine. I
00:38:32
think it's fine. I think it's Yeah. Don't make it pay to win. Yeah. Um, the one thing right now is like you can't
00:38:38
you can't request to be verified and they're just kind of going through the people that they think are worth
00:38:44
verifying. So I think it's pretty much at least in this initial wave just going to be politicians and journalists
00:38:51
because they're verifying all the the publications and the publications verify their journalist. Hank Green's verified.
00:38:57
Yeah. Yeah. Well, he's Hank Green though. He's like one of the biggest accounts on Blue Sky so that would make
00:39:03
sense. Yeah. Yeah. In other news, yeah, we have the official pre-order date for
00:39:09
the Nintendo Switch 2. Oh boy. And if you were listening to this on Friday, it already passed. You
00:39:14
probably didn't get a Nintendo Switch 2 if this is news to you because it is Thursday the 24th. Yeah. Um, big thing
00:39:21
about this pricing, $4.49. There are some price increases on a bunch of
00:39:28
different accessories ranging from $5 to $10. I think JoyCons and Pro controllers are both $5 more expensive. Some of the
00:39:34
cameras were more expensive. Um, so yeah, your little bundle you buy when you buy one is going to be pretty
00:39:40
pricey. Yeah. But they didn't write raise the price of the console, which is good. I also read that most GameStops
00:39:47
are claiming they're expecting around 100 consoles, which is that's a lot.
00:39:53
That really feels like a lot. I think I read somewhere on Twitter that 8 years ago they were getting between like five
00:39:58
and 30 consoles a store. There's also half as many GameStops as there used to be. So that could be part of the
00:40:06
GameStop may have a line. It might. It's like 11:00 a.m. in store and then but
00:40:11
still like Walmart, Target are all doing some sort of pre-orders on the 24th. Yeah. So it's midnight ET on the 24th in
00:40:18
the United States. Um was it I thought Yeah, midnight ET. GameStop is
00:40:24
different. Okay. But the other ones tonight Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh well,
00:40:30
yeah, it's tonight at midnight, which is kind of crazy. Uh and speaking of GameStop, they actually do have some
00:40:36
pretty sick tradein deals. Uh you can get $125 for an original Switch, which
00:40:41
considering they originally only costed $300 and that was eight years ago is a
00:40:47
pretty good trade in, I would say. I think it's awesome cuz we're all complaining about the price. If you
00:40:52
trade one in, you're getting it for about the same price as this as the Switch One 325 instead. Yeah. Yeah,
00:40:59
that's fair. If it's good, you do need to bring in the original HDMI cord, it said, which I thought was funny and
00:41:06
might mess a lot of people up, which I don't know if I have there is. That is hilarious. Wait, so you need the
00:41:11
original HDMI? I don't know. It just listed the stuff cuz it needs like the console, the dock, the power cord, the
00:41:17
which also could be a USBC cord if you lost the original has the original HDMI
00:41:23
cable. I think I do. I mean, some people probably just plugged it in once and never unplugged it, so they probably still have it. Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess
00:41:29
if that's the one you're using, then maybe that's the cable. I have a way longer cable. It's like 15 ft long. Yeah, like I had a cable already, so I
00:41:35
definitely I don't know what I did with that cable. Yeah. Uh, you can also get $175 for Switch OLED tradeins. I have an
00:41:43
OLED, but I'm probably not going to trade it. Uh, you can get $100 for Switch Light tradeins. So, I was just
00:41:48
going to ask, are you guys going to pre-order? I literally go back and forth every single day, dude.
00:41:53
minute by minute. I bet at some point tomorrow I will look at one of the pre-orders and if it's available, I'll
00:41:59
have a very hard time not doing it. Mostly because FOMO right there. Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm in the I'm in the same
00:42:06
boat where I'm not going to try really hard to pre-order, but if I happen to
00:42:11
stumble on one that's available if you happen to go to best buy.com or GameStop. That's what happened to me
00:42:16
when I bought my Switch OLED cuz they were literally impossible to find for like weeks and I randomly went on best
00:42:22
buy.com and I was like, "What available near you?" And I was like, "Huh?" So I put in my cart for pickup and I showed
00:42:27
up to Best Buy and the guy was like, "Oh my god, how did you get this?" Like when he was like checking me out. He's like, "How did you manage to did you use like
00:42:33
a an app to?" And I was like, "Are you a botter?" It was just on the internet, my guy. It was just there. Yeah. Another
00:42:40
interesting note is that Nintendo had to issue a supply constraint warning in Japan because it got 2.2 million
00:42:47
applications for pre-orders for the Switch 2. Uh for reference, it sold
00:42:53
360,000 in Japan in the first month when the Switch One came out. So this is
00:42:58
about six times that demand, which is absolutely insane. Uh and it basically said that a significant number of people
00:43:04
will not get it on June 5th. This is the So they just kind of you
00:43:10
just fill out a form. There's no This isn't people who like put down five bucks or anything. This is the like No, no, no. This is like registering
00:43:16
interest through the My Nintendo store to pre-order. Oh, well, that's something. Yeah. Wow. Um, Andrew, I had
00:43:22
a question for you about this that you might know more than me about. Doubt it, but let's go. My question is like
00:43:28
immediately after the uh announcement video, you were able to sign up for
00:43:35
pre-ordering it through the my Nintendo store thing. Yeah. But it was sign up for interest and then there was that
00:43:41
whole thing where like you could uh if you had 50 hours of play time and you had one year of Nintendo on Switch
00:43:48
online, you would be able to pre-order. Yeah. I thought there was like a sign up for the pre pre-order. Like it almost
00:43:55
feels like the like Capital One early ticket thing before. Yeah. What was going to happen was that you were going
00:44:00
to be able to those people were going to be able to pre-order a day before everybody else on my Nintendo store and then they stopped pre-orders in the US
00:44:08
altogether and pushed them to tomorrow. So my question is is that whole thing
00:44:13
just gone that's the last I heard of it. I haven't seen anything about that. I'm not like, you know, refreshing every
00:44:19
day, but I have not heard anything about that because I haven't gotten anything in my email that's like pre-ordered. No,
00:44:24
I didn't see anything on the Switch subreddit. I very well could have missed it. I like every couple days go on there
00:44:30
and just kind of skim through everything to see what's going on. But, uh, yeah, I don't know if they ever got to do
00:44:35
anything with that because of all the delays. Interesting. Interesting. Uh, then you had one more thing here. Um, we
00:44:42
have a couple more. Oh, that's if you're interested in trading in. I was just reading that I thought was interesting.
00:44:48
If you have like the OG Switch One, apparently they're super popular in the modding community cuz they're like the only one you can mod. So, I've saw
00:44:55
people on there selling them for like a few hundred bucks. So, if you need a different way to make some money for Switch 2, that could be a way. I think
00:45:02
it like the modding thing only works if you hadn't up like updated the software past a certain amount. Could be. I'm not
00:45:08
totally sure. I just thought it was. What if I just used the money to short GameStop instead?
00:45:14
This is not financial advice if you couldn't tell. All right, but uh
00:45:19
speaking of financial advice, Google could probably use some I was
00:45:25
terrible. I'm available Google. We we got an antitrust update in the US versus Google case. And what is that? Um so we
00:45:33
all know that the judge found Google to be a monopoly. Yeah. um and they're in the process of figuring out how the US
00:45:39
government's going to fix it. So, the judge during this trial said they're asking for three different things. One
00:45:45
is to prevent Google from striking deals for prime search engine placement. Um
00:45:50
referenced how Google pays Apple $20 billion annually. Amazon has their own search engine.
00:45:57
I missed it. No, you just said Prime search engine placement. Oh, you very
00:46:02
much confused me. I missed it. Thought maybe. But yeah, we we I mean we've talked about how much Google pays Apple
00:46:09
um yeah to be that. Um they want Google to divest Chrome. Um the judge said it's
00:46:16
the starting point of 35% of all user queries and has over 4 billion users.
00:46:21
And then they also would like to require Google to license its search data to competitors that would want it. Um, so
00:46:27
obviously they still make money through that through the licensing fee, but obviously Google does Google wants that
00:46:33
information for themselves. Monetarily it's more important to them because they get to do things other people don't get
00:46:38
to do even though they could make a ton of money off of it. Yeah. Um, so Google's pushing back uh to almost
00:46:46
everything they said above. However, they did kind of agree with parts of the
00:46:51
um striking deals and not being like a a exclusive default search engine, which
00:46:58
is but the DOJ is like cool, you can kind of agree with us on that, but you already have created such a like
00:47:05
impossible lead over through these like monopolistic tactics that like I think
00:47:11
we need to do this a little more to make up for an insurmountable uh
00:47:17
place that you're in right now. This is the interesting part to me which is always like okay Google's established
00:47:23
this lead and whatever you think about how they got the lead or whatever now they are like the search engine that
00:47:28
people choose and Google still continues to pay Apple $20 billion a year to be
00:47:35
the default search engine in Safari. What if they didn't? Would what would
00:47:40
Apple do? I think the concern is that Apple would just turn on their own
00:47:46
search engine that they've had ready for a very long time. I think I think that's a possibility, but I don't know that
00:47:52
like is Google really think that that's what's going to happen. I don't I just don't know that people would like would iPhone users be cool with oh I just like
00:47:59
typed in the search box to Google something and it's just this other search engine came up for some reason. I don't think they'd care. Really? I
00:48:05
really don't. I think there would be a lot of memes if it if it was Bing tomorrow. like how many people would
00:48:12
just be like why? I guess Bing to be fair looks a lot like Google. Bing has a lot of negative connotations
00:48:18
for everybody at this point. So I kind of feel like maybe they'd change it from that. I think the biggest thing is if
00:48:24
we're talking just like average person who has a phone, how many of them would know how to change the default? They
00:48:31
might literally be stuck in whatever that and that's hundreds of millions of people. And I just don't think a lot of
00:48:37
people care. I don't know because a lot of people still buy Microsoft computers and and they open up Edge to download
00:48:43
Chrome. There's also a lot of people who have Microsoft computers and and just use Edge because it's there and Bing is
00:48:49
the default and they have no idea. But Chrome is the most popular browser. Yeah, it's not the default on any computer other than Chromebooks where it
00:48:56
is the other. So people do like seek out Chrome and seek out Google. That is true. So, I just feel like if Google
00:49:02
stopped paying Apple tomorrow, obviously Apple could spin up a search engine and would have to announce it and explain it
00:49:08
at some point and they could launch it and do a whole thing. But I just wonder like would people Well, it would it
00:49:13
would I think it would my point is I think it would continue to be Google for quite a while. Sure. But I think it's also the fact that Google's paying them
00:49:20
$20 billion a year proves how important that defaultness is. Well, Google's an
00:49:26
ads business, so why would they want to not pay 20 billion to find out, you
00:49:32
know, like I'd rather just pay 20 billion. That's how important it is. 20 billion a year. How much has that 20
00:49:38
billion been negotiated where it was like give us 100 billion and Google's like no, we'll give you 20 billion. Yeah. Okay. All right, fine. There's
00:49:44
also I think it's it's more important for them to show more revenue than it is for them to show more profits
00:49:51
necessarily. And if they're getting more revenue, more and more revenue because more and more people are using Google
00:49:57
search. If that dropped by even 20% all of a sudden like Google search has dropped by 20% looks terrible and their
00:50:04
stock tanks. Yeah, it's just a lot of how much it drop. That's the question. I
00:50:09
think by a lot. Honestly, my mom would not go to google.com on her phone. But if they but if they open up search on
00:50:16
the iPhone after Google stops paying, what would what does Apple do? Do they just leave it at Google? Who knows? They
00:50:22
defaulted to something with like the options of doing it in the settings which most people never find or they
00:50:27
take money from someone else. I don't know. Yeah, I do think that Apple has an
00:50:32
incentive to keep it on Google because Google is still the best experience right now compared compared to Bing.
00:50:39
Yeah. Yeah. I feel like they clearly are willing to do something else though because they're getting paid to do it.
00:50:46
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I bet they would actually a fullyfledged really good product that is just ready to go. That's
00:50:53
got to be that they just don't think would make more than $20 billion and then therefore less money from Google
00:50:59
into the complexities of running an ads business with privacy way more at the forefront in their because that's what a
00:51:05
search engine is. It's an ads business. So we think so we think Apple has the
00:51:11
ability to launch a full-fledged search product tomorrow. Yes. but doesn't do it
00:51:16
now because taking 20 billion from Google and just keeping it at Google is
00:51:21
fine. I think that to them that's less complicated than like getting into the
00:51:26
advertising business and they could do it and they could make it probably make a lot of money but it the like you said
00:51:32
like the security stuff and the the the data privacy. I feel like if the government just told Apple you can no
00:51:38
longer have Google be the default they would just make like a super private browser. They're not dealing with this
00:51:45
at all. I don't think they would tell them Google can't be the default. It would be Google can't pay you to be the
00:51:50
exclusive. Well, either way, I just mean like Apple, I don't think, would want to be bothered with any of this. Well, also
00:51:55
think about the antitrust potential of Apple having their own browser. That is the default because they would
00:52:02
definitely come after Apple and be like, you can't do that. Well, not if they're not doing any kind of like advertising
00:52:07
monopolistic things. Yeah. Right now, do an advertising business. Yeah. Android phones, Chrome is the default. Google's
00:52:14
the default search engine. Yeah. And that obviously is a big point of contention with Chrome. But let's say
00:52:20
Safari is the default and Apple search is the default search engine and they're
00:52:25
not the biggest search provider, so they can't really have a monopoly argument yet. Is that fine for now? I guess it
00:52:32
seems like that would be fine. I just don't I don't know. It seems hard to believe that Apple could launch a new
00:52:39
business today that is that massive. That it threatens their biggest competitor but doesn't do it. Well, you
00:52:46
know, the US broke up Microsoft because they were monopolizing search engines with Internet Explorer. I could totally
00:52:52
see Tim Cook getting on stage and being like, you know, never explaining the Google Chrome thing, but just being
00:52:57
like, we have this new browser, super private on your phone, doesn't go anywhere, and they're just like deal
00:53:03
with this just search engine. It could be the same browser, but just like the search engine. We've built a search engine to like get around all this. It
00:53:09
could be under I almost picture it being under Apple intelligence of being like, "Yeah, we've got so if you want to
00:53:14
search for stuff, there's Siri search and it's super private and and no one can sell you ads based on what you
00:53:20
search, etc., etc." You wouldn't want any of those guys collecting data on you, would you? Exactly. Use Safari.
00:53:26
True. Well, the rest of this is pretty much about data. Satia Nadella testified
00:53:31
during this. I don't know why I think that's so funny that he's like the only way to build a great search engine was
00:53:36
is with unobtainable amounts of search data and Google's made sure no one else has that besides themselves which no the
00:53:43
CEO of Microsoft is like yes please let me buy that data. Um and then what's also funny is kind of related to
00:53:50
Microsoft is I hate it. During the trial, the head of product from OpenAI mentions that they would be interested
00:53:56
in purchasing Chrome if it were to go on sale, which now is very funny cuz is their boss not in the room with them who
00:54:03
makes SA's like you what? You would what?
00:54:09
Shame if something happened to our investment. I just thought that was so funny. And also, please God, no open AI,
00:54:15
don't buy Chrome. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Speaking of antitrust suits,
00:54:22
another one. Let's keep the good times going. DJ, uh, Apple and Meta just got hit with really big DMA antitrust fines.
00:54:28
If you remember, the European Union basically went after Apple and Meta and were basically like, you cannot do these
00:54:35
things. The big thing for Apple was third party app stores was a major thing where Apple eventually complied, but
00:54:43
they did so in the most malicious compliance way possible. to the point where it basically penalized you a ton
00:54:51
if you were willing to put your app on a third party app store in the European Union uh and made it like worse for most
00:54:58
people. So, uh the EU is not happy about that malicious compliance and they find
00:55:05
Apple $570 million for violating the the uh DMA, which is crazy. Uh and it says
00:55:13
that has 60 days to basically remedy this. So, that's that's not too good for
00:55:19
Apple. We'll see what's what happens there. They're probably going to have to get rid of all of that jargon and just
00:55:25
fully open it up without any consequences. Uh it'll be interesting to see if Apple actually complies with
00:55:31
that. The EU is actually also uh not happy with Meta for a very similar
00:55:36
reason. it was charging Facebook and Instagram users to either pay a subscription fee to like get rid of all
00:55:42
of the ads that were being shown there or they could use their personal data um to kind of like have ad supported
00:55:49
versions on the platform. Mhm. And meta solution was to in the EU was to allow
00:55:55
free users to see fewer unskippable full screen ads. Uh but the EU is not too
00:56:00
happy about that either. So both of them got hit with huge fines. Apple's fine was 570 million. Metas-fine was about
00:56:07
half that, but they could basically be continue they could continue to get
00:56:12
fined fairly regularly unless they fix these issues within 60 days. It's crazy to think 570 million is a gigantic fine
00:56:20
yet we just talked about them paying about 30 times that a year to
00:56:25
Google doesn't feel like such a big fine. That's crazy. Yeah. So, I mean, most of these companies will take the
00:56:33
fines if it means they're making more money by doing the thing they're not supposed to do. That's just generally
00:56:38
how it works because the fines are just not big enough to actually be real deterrence. Mhm. Uh, this seems quite a
00:56:45
bit bigger, 570 million that they have to pay right now. They're going to appeal it obviously, but that seems like
00:56:51
a a bigger deterrence than they usually get hit with. So, we'll see how that plays out. This is like when you see like a Ferrari parked in like a do not
00:56:57
park thing and it just has like four tickets on a dash. Like I don't care. It's more convenient for me to be parked
00:57:04
illegally. Yeah. Wow. Um and then last little thing about companies giving large sums of money to other companies.
00:57:11
Uh it came out that Google pays an enormous amount of money to Samsung to have Gemini pre-installed on its phones.
00:57:18
This does not shock me at all. Yeah. Yeah. They seem to be very close
00:57:23
partners in a lot of ways. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. I mean, at the Pixel event, they literally showed Gemini on the
00:57:30
Galaxy S24 Ultra. At Google IO, they regularly demo exclusive features on on
00:57:37
Samsung phones. They'll probably do it again this year. We knew that they had a very close partnership, but it seems like it's been getting closer and
00:57:43
closer, and now we have uh actual evidence that they've been paying them a lot of money. So apparently Google has
00:57:49
been paying Samsung an enormous amount of money since January monthly to have Gemini pre-installed on Samsung's
00:57:55
phones. So that would probably be around the announcement of the S25 series. Uh it also gives Samsung a percentage of
00:58:01
revenue earned from advertisers in the Gemini app. I have never seen an ad in
00:58:06
the Gemini app. Me neither. So I'm not really sure what that means. Yeah, it
00:58:12
could be a future thing. It could be a future thing. I know. Um, but the judge actually ruled that this violates
00:58:17
antitrust law and is hearing testimony to figure out what Google will have to do to remedy the behavior. So, Google's
00:58:24
not in the best situation. This coming out in the middle of this antitrust thing happening feels like the start of
00:58:30
the search engine. Yeah, they're just doing it with AI instead. Yeah. You know what I just thought of? What? Open AAI
00:58:36
has been working on this search product. Maybe if Google Careful Mark careful if
00:58:43
Google wasn't paying Samsung, Samsung would just like switch it to Open AI. This says they had offers from OpenAI
00:58:49
and Microsoft as well. Yeah. So maybe maybe in a world today where uh Google stops paying Apple to be the default
00:58:55
search engine in Safari. Open AI is like Yeah, I want that deal. I want to be the
00:59:01
search. Well, you know what's funny is like Safari kind of got dumber when they added not Safari, the Siri. Sorry, Siri
00:59:09
kind of got dumber when they added the OpenAI integration. GPT GPT integration. There's been like multiple cases that
00:59:15
people post online of like, "Hey Siri, what day of the week is it?" And it'll be like, "Do you want me to ask Chat GBT
00:59:21
for that?" Yeah, it's it's literally the Bixby April Fools video we did where it's like, "I can't answer it. I'm
00:59:27
literally going to ask someone else." Yeah, we were ahead of our time with that joke. We were. Yeah. So, again,
00:59:34
sorry. My I just want to say my chat GPT experience lately it's few and far between and it has been miserable every
00:59:41
time. Every time it's like hey can you do this thing and I'll do it do it do it and then I'll be like can you do one
00:59:46
more that's against our policy. Why is it against your policy for this reason? Cool. Do it without that reason. That is
00:59:52
against our policy. Perfect example. I was like trying to explain to Tim a thumbnail I wanted to make and it was
00:59:59
just this idea of typing on a keyboard and the keys are flying all over the place. Okay. So, it did a pretty good job at creating that. And then I said,
01:00:05
"Can you make this in look like a YouTube thumbnail?" And it throws the YouTube logo on and some text that
01:00:11
looked terrible. I said, "Can you please take that off and change the text to this?" And then first it says, "You've
01:00:17
run out of requests for today because I don't have pro. Please come back in 24 hours." That was Friday. I come back Monday. I ask it to remove it. It says,
01:00:25
"Uh, you've run out of requests." And it's had to do that three times. I said, "That was three days ago. I'm past the
01:00:32
time limit. It said you're right. And then it and then it said let me try to do that generating image. And it said
01:00:38
this is against our policy. So I said why? And it said there was a logo involved in it and they can't do
01:00:43
anything with logos. So I said you put the logo in. In fact I'm asking you to take it out. Said whoa you're right. I
01:00:50
did I did put that in and you are just asking to put that take it out. What should I let me get get on with that.
01:00:56
And then it says generate an image. Says that is against our policy. And then I just gave up. I'm like not doing this
01:01:01
anymore. So yeah, that was my last Chach GPD experience. Wow, it's terrible. That sounds horrible. If only you had a
01:01:08
Samsung phone that you could just If only I had an image playground. Yeah. Then you can make a cartoon. All
01:01:16
right. Uh yeah. Okay. Well, we we will take another quick break. We do have of course our trademarked
01:01:22
Have we trademarked it? Our tra I mean just kidding. Yeah pending our patent
01:01:28
pending final segment. uh last of the month called Crown or Clown and Clown. Crown and Clown. So uh we're gonna get
01:01:34
to that after the break, but of course we should do one more round of trivia.
01:01:43
Okay, trivia. Trivia. Question two. Twitter announced a public verification
01:01:48
system in what year? Asterisk. It was discontinued that same year because they
01:01:53
received too many requests. A publication. But when did they launch it? the public one. Oh, like how you can
01:02:00
request it publicly. Just being able to request or like Oh, is that where there's like a verified account and you
01:02:06
had to like what happened? Like we got too many people requesting form. We
01:02:12
don't have that many employees in the settings. There was like a form you could fill out. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. I didn't know about that. I was
01:02:18
verified after it shut down somehow. Oh, nice. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. because
01:02:24
there was still a this person's impersonating me like form and I filled that out and then they were like oh
01:02:30
we're just going to verify it. I got verified like 2 weeks before they made it paid and I was like well there goes
01:02:36
that. Oh really? And then everyone was like look at this loser check. That's
01:02:42
funny. And then you had to pay to put it Oh no I did not pay. They just removed that. Yeah. All right. All right. Well
01:02:48
we'll think about it. Answers at the end. We'll be right back. [Music]
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01:06:00
Welcome back. We are doing Crown &clown. And I think I'll go first because I have the two most boring ones. Can we remind
01:06:07
the the uh I was going to say the users, the listeners. Yeah, I guess I will. At the end of every month, we do a crown,
01:06:15
which is something we thought was the best thing that happened this month, and a clown, which is something we thought
01:06:21
was the dumbest thing that happened this month. Um, we try really hard to keep it within the month. We'll see how we go.
01:06:27
We need to, um, be a little more streamlined of this and we're working on it, which probably means we won't be,
01:06:32
but nice. One hour later, I will pitch I think the crown of April is the Nintendo
01:06:39
Switch, too. That's what I was going to say. It's really hard not to say it. As much as people gave it crap for pricing
01:06:46
and there's been some delays, I still really think they delivered on the majority of the things. Yeah. My
01:06:52
argument is and I'm very it's the thing I'm the most excited about this. Have they because it's not even out yet. What if it's just a break? I mean, we will
01:06:58
see announced. It's always been for June. It actually hasn't been delayed on delivering yet. Yeah. Yet. No. No. I
01:07:05
know. But I mean, like, what if we get it and it sucks? Well, okay. They could still screw up the cuz they said they
01:07:12
fixed the stick drift, but it's not Hall effect. So, I don't know if I fully believe them on that, but a lot of the
01:07:18
other things were good, minus pricing and some of the game card keys, but also like, and I didn't know this, apparently
01:07:24
a lot of Xbox and PlayStation games have been doing this for a long time without the physical key. It's just a download
01:07:30
code inside the box. So, this is a better version of that. I totally agree because you can sell them and trade them and whatever later. So, I think they did
01:07:38
a good job. Digital Foundry did a very indepth uh thing about the switch to
01:07:43
that they put out two days ago and I would recommend going to look at that. They have a bunch of videos and also
01:07:48
writeups about it. That is a long article. It's super in-depth and they have a bunch of they have videos for like every portion of it which is it
01:07:54
generally it's generally quite positive. Yeah, they're saying the performance is like way better than they expected and
01:08:01
yeah. So interesting. It's generally very positive. All right, David, what's your crown? Well, it was supposed to be
01:08:06
switched too. I mean, it still can be switched to cuz we have to agree anyways. Yeah, we have to agree. So, you could just double up if you want. I'm
01:08:11
not saying it's good cuz I don't know cuz I've never even touched it. That's what I'm saying. But I do think it is
01:08:17
only one person in this room has touched it. I have touched it. Thanks for
01:08:22
clarifying. What What other positive things have happened this month? Nothing. Literally nothing. I have
01:08:28
something. Yeah. Mark, what what's yours? Okay. Well, I have two. One of them is not really a thing. One of them
01:08:34
was a Volvo EX90 which we reviewed this month but uh it's not didn't come out this month so it's probably not going to
01:08:39
win. Okay. Um but I did find something else. Nice car. Uh in the month of April
01:08:47
scientists at Z Jang University and the University of Cambridge built much much
01:08:53
smaller individual pixels on an LED display. Record-breaking amount
01:08:59
actually. uh they achieved the smallest pixels ever at 90 nm wide. You would
01:09:05
know about this. And it's hard to explain how small 90 nm is, but they've
01:09:11
been working on this over and over again and shrinking down and down the pixels over and over. Uh but this 90 nm wide
01:09:16
pixel achieved a pixel density of 127,000 pixels per inch, which is pretty
01:09:22
sick. Um virus size. Obviously pixels it makes oil paintings
01:09:29
look pixelated is how they described it. Now obviously there's a lot there's a lot of challenges that come from having
01:09:36
pixels that small from you know drivers brightness to whatever all these other
01:09:42
things. Um but I just want to emphasize how small those individual pixels are. If a human hair was a
01:09:48
skyscraper a 90 nm object would be a single floor tile. Floor tile, not floor
01:09:55
thickness. Floor tile. But like is the floor tile standing up or human hair sideways skyscraper? Well, how what what
01:10:03
length of human hair? It's the question of the width of a human hair. The width
01:10:08
of a human hair is a skyscraper. Holy crap. Another way of looking at it, if a red blood cell were a soccer ball, a
01:10:16
single pixel would be a grain of sand. Wow. That one seems not as crazy. Yeah,
01:10:21
but a red blood cell. You have to know how small a red blood, right? Cuz I see blood, but I don't know how big this red
01:10:27
blood cells are pretty small compared to a single hair. Thanks. A pool. Yeah, I don't know. So anyway, yeah, 127,000
01:10:34
pixel per inch display is my crown of the month. Hold on. I just want to say you guys said it can't be the Switch 2
01:10:41
because I haven't seen it yet. And then you bring out this like science breaking lab only. No, no. I'm saying you guys
01:10:48
said it to me. No, no, no. I don't think that's a I don't think the rule has to be you have to have seen it cuz we've had previous crowns that are things we
01:10:54
haven't seen. I'm I agree. Yeah. I never said you had to have seen it. I said it had to be out.
01:11:00
This is in a lab. Yeah, it's out. Yeah, it includes one of them exists.
01:11:05
Okay, I see your point, Andrew. And I'm choosing to ignore it. Somehow someone can get us access to making a
01:11:12
video on that though. That would be just saying I'm pretty sure we would do that. Microscopes. Yeah, electron microscopes.
01:11:19
I'll drop a link in the in the Slack so you guys can think cuz it's pretty
01:11:24
the ultimate problems. Speaking of Slack, I'm going to tell you what Ellis's crown is for the month. He
01:11:30
discovered that there are now HDR emojis in Slack. This is This is This is not a
01:11:36
crown, my friend. He thinks it's a crown. It is not HDR emojis. It looks horrible. If you're scrolling through on
01:11:44
Slack, you'll see a regular emoji and then you'll see a very bright spot on your screen, which is the other one.
01:11:52
It looks broken. Post it. I'm going to put it in. Can you please It's in the waveform. It just looks broken. Jesus,
01:12:00
it's like glowing on yours. Yeah, I think it's cuz I'm in dark mode on Slack. Yeah, you're scrolling. I just I
01:12:07
feel like I'm blinking and seeing it in my It's definitely an SDR on my computer, which I'm happy about. Wow.
01:12:12
Yeah. So, that's saying that he likes scrolling through Instagram under his under his blanket and just getting
01:12:18
blinded randomly in the middle of the night. This is his crown. This is his crown. That's what I said. That's what I said. He thinks this is awesome. Okay.
01:12:25
Well, I don't I think this I think they should be eligible for the clown.
01:12:31
Does he have a clown separately? This clown is It's going to be something amazing. No. It's basically Apple
01:12:37
getting dinged for the uh removing the Apple intelligence coming soon part. Oh
01:12:42
yeah. Yeah. That's a clown. It's hard to tell. He said that's his clown. That's a good thing. Well, that they had it up in
01:12:47
the first place. Fair. Interesting. I asked Gemini what are the best things that happen in consumer technology in
01:12:54
April 2025. And it said the Apple M4 chip launched, which is not It did not launch this month. The Bard upgrade.
01:13:01
Bard upgrade. [Music] That might be April. Gemini 3 years ago,
01:13:06
Gemini literally called itself its old. You're asking Gemini, which is what Bard
01:13:11
was, and it said, "Yeah, the Bard AI platform received an update integrating the more advanced Gemini 2.0 models." AI
01:13:20
travel planning. Wow, this is horrible. None of these are true. Sick. So, I love
01:13:26
AI. At this point for Crown, we're reduced to the Switch 2
01:13:32
or the groundbreaking 127,000 pixel per inch display or the HDR emoji. Imagine
01:13:38
the HDR emoji on on that display. Crisp.
01:13:43
Crisp. Cooked. Eyes cooked. Vectors, I would say. What about the Beats cables?
01:13:49
That was one of those mid things that happened that we forgot about within 30 seconds of it happening. But I thought you said it was the biggest story of the
01:13:55
year. Oh, I did say that, didn't I? I was lying.
01:14:00
Damn. Elephant in the I thought you were serious. I mean, it's hard to vote against. I feel like every time I just
01:14:06
give up on my answer, but how about it is a pretty cool screen. I have a question. Okay. All those pictures look
01:14:12
like they were green pixels only. Can the pixels change colors? Don't worry
01:14:17
about it. If it's green only, what do you mean green only? I don't know. Are they green? How about article up? Yeah.
01:14:25
Oh, okay. Never mind. David was looking at something else. What about Sam Alman potentially buying his own company?
01:14:31
Clown. You already said yours. Yours is the Switch. Yeah, it's the Switch, too. Okay. I think it's the Switch, too. Come
01:14:37
on. It's probably It's like the biggest. It's the most talked about thing this month, which okay, doesn't necessarily
01:14:44
mean it's that isn't negative. Yeah, there was a lot of negative stuff about it, but I think some of it was blown out
01:14:49
of proportion. Yeah. And some of it's totally reasonable criticism. All right, I'll fold. I'll I'll go I'll go switch
01:14:55
two. Let's go. Let's go. Point for Andrew. What is the clown then? I The clown tariffs. Reciprocal tariffs. They
01:15:02
came out the same day, actually. Clown and the clown came out the same day. I was going to go Blue Origin PR Stone.
01:15:09
Oh, never mind. I lose. Actually, I think that's it. I think that's it. That
01:15:15
was my clown. What about um 23 and me selling their data?
01:15:20
going bankrupt. Has it happened yet? Oh, did it get sold? That was last year. But
01:15:25
that was last month. I know, but remember last month we were like April club. It's like the buyer could be
01:15:31
horrible, but it's Yeah, they haven't sold yet. Okay, cool. Perfect. So, yeah, we I think Blue Origin is the best one.
01:15:36
I think Adam's got one, but it's a hard one to top. Okay, so my clown then is
01:15:42
something that I just realized yesterday, which is that my phone number has been tied up in iMessage for like
01:15:49
two months now since I switched to the Pixel. So you you've missed a thousand. So Ellis texted me and on Slack, he's
01:15:56
like, "Yo, I texted you." And I'm like, "No, you didn't." And then it I saw it pop up on the messages app in my computer. And then when I opened that
01:16:02
up, there was like 30 missed messages. And I was like, how is this still a problem? How are we still dealing with this? This is along the lines of that
01:16:09
tech question I had maybe two or three weeks ago, which is like the RCS thing not working on my phone, which I think
01:16:14
on the iPhone you have to turn off. I did. You do? I didn't do it on my laptop, which is a separate thing, and
01:16:21
that's why it all went to my laptop. That's why I still carry two phones. Did you figure it out? I haven't figured it out, but it has gradually started
01:16:27
working with more and more threads. Interesting. I've seen a lot of suggestions of similar issues. I know
01:16:34
you said you tried some of them, but there were people, some of them were like, "Oh, I tried a You had to like
01:16:39
sign out and then like restart your phone and then all this." Yep. No, I I went through the comments. I tried
01:16:45
basically everything everyone was suggesting and nothing was working. And then a couple days later, I tried an RCS
01:16:50
message to someone I usually RCS message and it worked. And I was like, "Oh, oh, RCS." And then I tried another thread
01:16:56
and it's like SMS. Adam, that's crazy because like Ellis and Brandon must also have had their
01:17:03
iMessage things like mess up because they never respond to me either. So Brandon was one of the people that I had
01:17:09
gotten a message from him like 3 weeks ago and then I had to reply like, "Sorry, can can you resend all this
01:17:15
because it's stuck on my computer now." Very annoying. I didn't text you. So
01:17:20
yeah, you never text me. I just try Telegram. Yeah. which is terrible. Clown. That's the clown. That's the
01:17:28
world. David still using telegram. These problems that you were both having, you know. All I do is get a bunch of fake
01:17:34
spam messages every day. So, I like it that way. Are we in agreement? Crown is
01:17:41
switched to clown is Blue Origin. Yeah, I think that's how Yeah, that's April 2025 right there. Yeah. Yeah, there's
01:17:48
April. Oh, that's pretty. We should do a a year-long calendar at the end of the year. That's a calendar and it has crown
01:17:54
and clown from every month. We'll collect them all. Yeah. Gotta collect them all. June is probably also gonna be switched to
01:18:01
switch to too. Switch to to the switching. We'll see how June goes. Either way,
01:18:07
hey, that's been it. We should do the trivia questions. Oh yeah. Trivia, dude.
01:18:14
Okay, let me not 127,000 pixels per inch.
01:18:20
per inch. Insane. Okay. The sphere in Las Vegas is about to about to shutter.
01:18:25
Imagine the sphere in Las Vegas at 127,000 ppi. Yeah. In HDR. No, it would
01:18:31
it would look the space would look like this slack HDR. The sphere in Las Vegas looks like an HDR emoji from a plane.
01:18:40
The rest of the city is kind of dim and there's just a blasting one in the middle. It also has emojis on it on the sphere. That's exactly that's what it
01:18:46
is. It's an HDR emoji. I was in a hotel in Vegas a couple months ago and I opened my windows in the morning and it
01:18:52
was just the giant emoji staring back at me. So that's all right. So these are
01:18:58
all Google services grabbed from the Google graveyard. Which one of these was an app that was used to find group
01:19:04
activities with others who share your interest? It lasted 11 months. And it lasted 11
01:19:11
months. A Grasshopper, B. Streams, C. Poly or D shoelace.
01:19:21
Wait, what is it? A Grasshopper. No, no. What's the question again? Oh. Which of these was an app that was used to find
01:19:27
group activities with others who share your interests? I'm so mad that I changed my answer, which means the first
01:19:33
one was definitely right. Whenever I do that, I just cross it out so that the world knows that I actually thought the
01:19:38
right answer. Nice. Okay. Okay. Different answers here. All right. Who wants to go first? I don't know the
01:19:43
answer, so I can guess. I said uh grasshopper. Grasshopper. Yeah. Incorrect. That's what I had at first.
01:19:49
Andrew and I both put shoelace. You both put shoelace. Well, I put D. Was that shoelace? Yeah, it was. Okay. Yeah, cuz
01:19:55
you go you got to lace up your shoes to go do an activity. Well, is that why you thought That's why I thought it, right?
01:20:01
It's to find new activities. So, I'm going to go do my activity with my friend. Lace. I sort of remember this launching cuz it was only a couple years
01:20:07
ago, right? Um 20 Wait, let me find it. One second. Also, what was option? In
01:20:14
2020, it shut down. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Also, what was option A? Grasshopper.
01:20:19
Grasshopper. What was B? Streams. What was C? Pololly. Yeah. Okay. What was D?
01:20:25
Grasshopper is a thing in Google. He said they're all things. Not anymore. They were all things, but now they're
01:20:31
all dead. Oh, well, at least I got the point. All right. Question two. Yeah. Nothing about this shoelace app screams
01:20:37
Google at all. Really? Yeah. It looks like it was made in um Canva. Yep, it
01:20:42
does. No, it literally does. That's the worst thing you can say. It looks like
01:20:47
you made this in this episode sponsored by King.
01:20:52
That would be really funny. They probably did make it in camera. Oh god. Okay. Twitter announced the public
01:20:58
verification system in what year? The public verification system. The PV. And
01:21:04
then they got flooded with requests and they shut it down that same year. Oh, my pen is like not working at all.
01:21:11
But here, just do this. Yeah, here. I'll write over it. I'll give you an extra
01:21:17
point if you get the month. Ooh. Okay.
01:21:25
Okay. All right. Flip them and read. What do we got? I am once again guessing. Okay. I went way later than
01:21:32
both of you. Oh, we'll go in order. I guess June 2012.
01:21:38
Incorrect. Are we just closest here or? Uh, sure. Sure. Let's do closest delta.
01:21:44
Okay. I did March 2014. March 2014. Yeah. Nope. Wow. I did June 2021. June
01:21:51
2021. What? Wrong one. Incorrect. I think you
01:21:57
were thinking of Elon's verification. When did he buy it? 2021. Was it 2021?
01:22:04
Or was it 2022? I thought it was very close before he bought it is when they added that form that was like I am blank
01:22:12
blank. That's when they brought it back. This is the first time
01:22:17
they was thinking that the correct answer was July 2016. So David gets the point. 2016.
01:22:26
Wow, that's late. Huh? That is late. I knew I was thinking of the second one. I thought I got verified after I started
01:22:31
15. You probably got verified before the public request was open. Cool. Yep. All
01:22:38
right, that was it. Quick update on the score. Marquez 18, Andrew 9, David 21.
01:22:43
David, you can legally drink now. Let's go. I'm older. You're older than the oldest YouTube video. That's right.
01:22:48
That's right. Or not older. Also, more points. Yeah. The day this goes live, I'll be 10 years older than Oh, yeah.
01:22:56
Everyone say happy birthday to David. Woo! Happy birthday. If you made it this far, if you made it this far, then you
01:23:02
know when David's birthday is officially dust. Drop your comments below in between all the which language do you
01:23:08
prefer the dub to be comments. We appreciate both of those. Say happy birthday in a different language. Do it. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. For these.
01:23:15
Yeah. Uh but yeah, we'll be back, of course, in May. That's the next month.
01:23:20
May is that true? May we already know we What about April 30th? Oh, wait. But
01:23:26
they'll not see us until May. Until May. They won't see us till May. So, we'll see you in May. It's going to
01:23:32
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