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ooh Apple polishing cloth is officially compatible with the iPhone
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16 they did they just they did did it another successful launch folks
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engineering R doesn't just happen Okay do you think there's a singular job that's just update the Apple polishing
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Club yeah forever I'm a project manager on the polishing
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clo what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm
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Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David this week we have some real announcements that happened before we recorded which
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is very exciting matter of fact we just jumped in here directly after watching uh what was it like a 12-minute video
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that Apple put out with the iPhone 16e so that came out uh we also have a new rivan announcement hint someone was
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right last week uh and we also have a couple other small things like Humane was sold red is charging from for some
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stuff and a first look at the nothing 3A but first Andrew has written that Google
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Tasks now has a web app what what might be the shortest story in the history of
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waveform ever you can now go to a dedicated web page with your Google Tasks are we sure this is new yeah cuz I
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feel like I've been doing this for weeks so what you can do is you can like previously it would be on the sidebar of
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your Gmail in the exact it would look exactly like that but now it can just be in its own dedicated web page I could
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been using this web page for the last like month and a half pre-alpha no that's just means someone at Google
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remember that it exists and that's very encouraging like Google Tasks is it's on
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the radar so there's two things I was excited for it was I can float my own window on the side of my um desktop
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which has just my tasks in like vertical which is nice and the second thing which is like wait they remember this is one
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step to maybe new features if anything not a step backwards to Oblivion yeah maybe they'll add some stuff yeah that's
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good that's it I tried to check the Wayback machine but it's not it's down so so no way to know whether or not
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maybe I had Early Access to this idea never know uh this week also HP spent
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$116 million which actually was the most shocking part to me I didn't know HP was out here spending money like that uh and
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they used it to BU Humane Humane finally got their wish and was acquired maybe
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not the way they originally drew it up but it happened they shut down the pin is going offline the servers will go
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down they're shutting down the team that developed it it's not going to be a thing anymore rip Humane pin but yeah HP
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is acquiring uh the talent and the engineers and the team the technology
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behind yeah the yeah there's like 300 patents from the company and like Cosmos
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Co Cosmos mhm great name it's actually a pretty solid name no it's km OS km km OS
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yeah it's like okay this the pin's going to stop working so everyone who said it was bad is Justified in saying it was
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bad because it doesn't exist anymore but it's also like uh what is HPC in that I
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don't well I don't know apparently Emron and Bethany are going to work at HP to
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upgrade their AI systems in their conference room software this comes back to HP what what does HP do kind of my
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the first thing I ever reviewed was an HP product so I'm not like a HP hater I kind of like h no we we were just
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looking back on uh HP market cap and right after you made that video they skyrocketed it's yeah I believe that
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2009 was probably PE of hp's powers I bought an HP Pavilion dv7t it was very competitive it's the one I picked over
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all my other options and that was not a cheap laptop they had a thing back in the day yeah but
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today they're launching a zoom competitor HP no I have no idea no what
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they did I tell you guys when I thought that I may have uncovered a moneya laundering scheme at Intel Intel
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yeah retell the story was a while ago okay allegedly yeah okay this is
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probably not what is happening I want to start however however okay when I worked
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at Intel I wrote software that would check uh basically there was these giant
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sleds of computers right because they Ed the xeons which have two zons per sled sled there's tons of sleds in a rack
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Intel buys those racks from HP compact Lenovo Dell right all these companies
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where I'm like they technically sell laptops but there's no way that's how they make most of their money right MH
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so Intel would buy these giant racks for like a ton of money with like 15-year
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warranties City because they're running these computers at such like high wattage and so much power that like
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Parts break a lot right so the money the money laundering scheme that I thought I
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uncovered this is probably not happening is that the software when I
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wrote the software it would basically every morning check every single part in every single sled so it check the ram
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the uh the CPU like everything on the computer the things that would break the
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most often were the Intel xeons and the Intel developed RAM chips and the reason
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I thought it was money laundering scheme was because I it seemed like intel was
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putting the their like beist zons in these computers that HP was then selling
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to Intel as a rack and then HP under warranty when they would break because
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my software basically would say like every single day there were Zeon breaking there were there was RAM sticks
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breaking and it was always Intel developed parts so it seemed like HP then had to go back to Intel and buy new
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parts from Intel to put in the thing that they got that they sold to
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Intel and it just sort of felt like they were cycling money like this I feel like this feels like the um McDonald's ice
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cream machine where it's like it's broken and they also kind of Run Place
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compact what else does compact do this is the thing his well now well I mean at
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the time still it was like 2016 comp was not commercials and sold laptops wasn't
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around in 2016 compact got bought by HP in 20 hp merged yeah HP compact became
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the thing the easy answer here is they all do a lot of Enterprise stuff that we just don't quite know they yeah okay so
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what did they do they were selling giant racks of sleds to companies like Intel
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and that is probably how they make most of their money that's the answer to your question you think aren't buying the
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Pavilion more like Pavilion okay got him got him um so that's probably how they make most of their money yeah so yeah
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they they figured they've got 116 million to spend on acquiring Humane Humane gets kind of their wish not
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exactly the way they drew it up but at least it's something uh yeah I just
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canceled my Humane subscription today wait I was paying every month in hopes of seeing it
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improve it didn't it did a little but not enough to you know make another video or anything uh I canceled it today
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did you really just did you actually just forget no yes yes but I was given it a chance yeah
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that's fair we still have it it's I know exactly where it is um yeah so you know
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they raised about 230 million they sold it for 116 million a few months ago they
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were reportedly trying to sell it between like 700 to 1 billion I believe
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so this is quite a bit lower this is actually approximately 17th of Juan sto's MLB contract that um they just got
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sold for yeah um and I can't help but think I think we all know human is that company that um hyped themselves without
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a public facing product for a very long time and it feels kind of like they did that for longer than they had an actual
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public facing product that's probably true yeah yeah because it came out a year ago less than a year ago and
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they're hyping it for a while they're they're in stealth mode they've been around since 2018 and I know like every
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startup company has a product they're working on before they but like they were out there hyping up Humane publicly
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without their public product for a long time for for far longer than we actually had the pin so if you are a Humane a
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fellow Humane pin owner like myself expect it to be a brick by the end of the month it will still be able to tell
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you if it's overheating or what your battery I was going to say it's not just a brick it could also catch on fire it
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could it could tell you if it's about to and it can tell you how much battery life is left cuz that was the things
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that it was doing offline and it Contin yeah it Contin you know what's also kind of crazy so they will give people
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refunds only if you bought it within the last 90 days which is the normal refund period but they're not giving anybody
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else refunds and this product only existed for like less than a year hey man that's the risk it's a $700 pen
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that's the early adopter risk that's a lot of money for something that last the Humane redit if only there was like
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people who told you not to buy we did our job and we got yelled at for
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it they all should have bought a rabbit what you saying I was just going
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to say the the subreddit is not happy about this obviously I it's it's one thing when they like launched the email
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saying we're winding down and then like at the end it's like and everything will be offline February 28th which is like a
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week and a half from right now so yeah and then that also means somebody asked
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them and somebody responded no there are some offline things it can do like tell
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you your battery level can it tell me I say it's tell me the time how how it's
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got a does the projector still work yeah yeah it's just show you your battery level so maybe it's just like a Lael
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yeah clock clock yeah kind of dope I got it for free but I don't know if I'd charge that remember when the Spotify
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car thing went out and I came on this podcast and we spoke about them open sourcing it and how great of a community
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that has turned into yeah I hope they open source probably not they shutting it I
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so sick that's what the Reddit the subreddit is asking to open source it so people can Tinker with it I just I think
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there's way more complicated Parts in this I mean we did get to see the inside of it and that thing is complicated I don't think they can't open source it
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because all the patents got sold to HP yeah that would probably be my
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thought on why they they're not going to let a lot happen to well in six years just like Pebble we'll go back and ask
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HP to open source all this hold on to it yeah I guess cuz you never know hold on
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to your brick that might catch on fire I have a hot take what we're going to turn we're going to think back on this the
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way that people think about Google Glass no no we're not that's why I said it was hot that's why I said it was
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hot that's really hot eventually this is the future right do you mean form factor wise no I mean just an AI assistant
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thing that you wear they're not the only if you want to go super Broad and say a standalone AI device was ahead of its
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time sure that is where I'm going but that's about as generous as you can be I think I think we'll all look back at the
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Humane pin as being like oh that wasn't ready why did they ship that that was bad just like we looked at it while it
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was out and Google Glass had some real P some some goog was fire as heck it could
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come out today and be looked at kind of the same as I would still like Google Glass currently cuz you're a glass hole
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I was speaking of glass uh do you know what sand is made of well
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glass is made of sand is made of sand that's I got it backwards yeah fire segue though I knew
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where you were going almost nail I knew where you were going sand is actually the remnants of ancient window factories
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that they used to only put on the beach so for dinosaurs yeah for dinosaurs when you made a window you needed to test it
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so like okay we should look at the beach because it's really pretty yeah anyway yeah well speaking of sand since we're
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on the topic um rivan made an announcement this week you remember last week on the podcast we saw a bunch of
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pictures of sand dunes from rivan and they were teasing something to be announced on the 19th well we're
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recording this on the 19th and we know what it was let's just revisit what we
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thought might be coming they're probably going to announce a sand colored rivan a khaki rivan would be pretty sweet I'd be
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into that I want it to be r2d I want it to be the Maverick rivan we should place
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bets but there's just no way color I'm going with either special event or sand
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mode so you're saying sand mode David you're saying sand color yeah Andrew
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what are you saying uh rivan uh what is it called rivian
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Adventure Network yeah so uh good David was right it is a he's close you're close you're
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the closest it's a new trim package for the rivian r1t and r1s and it's a
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limited edition trim but it's called the California Dune Edition it is in fact sand colored so you get you'll get the
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paint very much you'll get the point for that um there's a couple other things as well from what I can see from these
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pictures there are new 20-in allterrain Wheels it'll come with a spare tire a reinforced underbody Shield uh a couple
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other sand colored things available accessories one of them is Max tracks recovery boards which are those like
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boards where you're stuck in deep snow or sand you put some of these you can already get it'll just come with these accessories like the dark I've thought
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about getting the dark crossbars for forever cuz mine came with light crossbars and I was like oh I want the black ones but I haven't bought them
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come with them I just saw it's just a new range of accessories so I wasn't 100% sure if that came with it or just
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like that's a good question but I I would believe it comes with these because they've existed already okay uh
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the revised power Tano cover they've had to re sort of engineer that over time and I also have had mine replaced so all
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these things will be included I believe and then um there's no release date yet but it seems like we'll get to see one
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at South by Southwest in March is anybody going to go to that I don't know
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South by Southwest I heard that waveform might be doing a live episode there though oh I saw that too oh I would go
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to that oh do you want to go we we just all go together you want go is this the invite right now yeah I thought i' get
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it on party full but no no we s we used Apple invite that's
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why okay bet so how about how about we all go to South by Southwest we'll do a live waveform show while we're there and
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we'll go check out the sand colored rivan I'm just going to throw let's try Saturday 11:00 a.m. March 8 10: a.m.
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does that work for you all I thought it was 10 a.m. I'm down but only if it's at the VOX media showcase oh I I could do
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that game I think we can find way to get there all right sweet should we invite anyone else or no how about the audience
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yeah no they should come true they should come okay yeah so so y'all so if you're watching this you're invited to
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uh yeah see you there bingo we're so good at transition the
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most natural transition you've ever heard use your AI assistant to distill what we just said guys please come yeah
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we are GNA it's our first live waveform event yeah it's going to be on the Vox stage it's going to be I think the first
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we're the first program on the Vox stage it's Saturday March March 8th at 11:00 a.m. we will be there are we will be
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recording it and releasing it as a bonus podt episode it won't be broadcast live but will be live there and we're still
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trying to figure some ways out to involve the audience as much as possible cuz we've never had that chance maybe
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comment section yes please let us know if you have cool ideas for what we should do at South by Southwest as we
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record live with an audience next to us who couldn't interact with the podcast I
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have a question for you guys idea you know in school when there was like a group project and the teacher would be like Okay who wants to go first M did
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you guys always volunteer to go first or were you hoping to go last I always went first I always went first too I was
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always hoping to go last you're hoping to go last interesting Ellis is the tiebreaker Ellis wait the question is
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everyone in class has a little poster board we're all going to do a presentation who wants to go first you
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oh how good is my presentation that's a great question very first really can I ask why actually
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first forgotten about by the time the worst ones come along okay that's also you get to set the tone yeah exactly if
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it's bad M there's not a good one before you to make you look bad exactly but
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it's possible that you do the bad first one and then the second one is way better but everyone will forget exactly
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okay don't remember the new one they'll forget the bad one my theory was always it's a presentation so will probably
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take longer than that period so if I pray for last I might be able to fix all the things I didn't actually do and then
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go the next day that did happen before to me I've done that yeah yeah good call
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yeah also just getting with is nice we are going first uh at South by so okay
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so yeah we'll have to bring the heat set the tone setting the tone tone and you guys should bring the bring the heat too
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it'll be fun and if you're sitting in the first three rows you will
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get we a poncho oh God yeah it's like SeaWorld we're sitting the bar as high as we can as high as we can expect
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fireworks you know Shamu will be there can I just say this rivan looks sick wait yeah I did want to go back to it it
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looks sick really wait it's a good we didn't say how good the color was this is like my
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favorite Trend in vehicle colors they've been doing lately sand in general like
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khaki is kind of the I don't want to call it dull cuz it's very clearly still like shiny M up rivan's alley like with
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the other colors they've done cross the Subaru cross Che was doing it for a little bit and with the like black uh
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wheel wells the accents on it so I think this looks really good I hope they do this color on the R2
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um yeah so I guess we this is limited I don't know how limited yet yeah but I
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think that would be cool as well and then r3x everyone loves the R3 but it's so far away we're just like waiting I
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want it so bad God that's what I'm waiting for I I think we universally all
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really like the R3 we're just waiting the R3 is one of those cars that like you aspire to drive and I feel like the
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R1 and the R2 are the cars that you actually end up driving yeah well so allegedly R3 is going to be cheaper
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though yeah so it should have reasonable accessibility I remember when they announced it it was like the R1 and r1s
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were out and they announced the R2 and everyone goes oh yes this is nice this is nice it's smaller this is more
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attainable and then they go by the way one more thing R3 and everyone went forget the R2 sick I want that so yeah
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it'll be it'll be someday and it looks more like a Subaru what did you did you say this is my Roadster is that what you
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said earlier yeah this is the r3x is my roadx is our Roadster but that means it'll never come out yeah yeah it's not
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out yet it's years away years away well speaking of things that are uh coming
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out we should talk about the iPhone SC but before we get to that we should take a quick break which means we got time
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for a trivia question dude also the Roadster is light years away now because
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it got shut into space well that's the first gen Roadster but then the new Roadster got announced and that was what
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year do you think that was 8 years ago 2017 yeah8 years ago it was like right
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when I started I still remember that barely graduated from college came out got announced right
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2017 I think it was 2017 doesn't Tesla owe you like three of those things by now I people that's a common
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misconception they only owe me one and a half of them allegedly
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allegedly that text message when you decided not to go to the semi event and then I was at home and I just like got
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this message of Marquez being like turn the event on and I was like why and then there's Road surges on the stage but are
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you it it all worked out cuz you went to the iroot event the one that is everything is for sure coming out yeah
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yeah anyway trivia guys I the Cyber taxi is sand colored I just realized well
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it's yellow it's Mountain Dew color it's gold it's gold colored all Mountain Dew
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Mountain Dew it's not green what Mountain Dew's Green Mountain Dew
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oh trivia dude all right it took
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every fiber of my being to not ask you guys a dune question today because I
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knew no one would get it right um so instead we're doing truck question oh no
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big big truck day uh so talked about the rivan one of the things that I saw
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mention in this rivan press relase is they're redoing the way the electric Tano cover Works um so I figured I'd
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make you guys search the inside of your brains for the origin of the word Tano
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it's an English word technically but we're borrowing it from French and we're borrowing it for the French word for
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what and I have four choices the first one is Barrel the second one is
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tunnel C is mattress and I don't know why I switched from numbers to letters
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there but we're just rolling with it Barrel tunnel mattress or ton like the
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unit of measurement tunel I hate that one feels very obvious which one yeah to me they
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all feel kind of obvious don't say it yeah cuz it's a truck bed
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oh well we'll think about it we don't I don't think any of us know the answer
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but we're going to we're going to make a guess later answers will be at the end like usual we'll be right
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st.com for all right welcome back we've got some exciting thrilling new breaking news this week the most Innovative and
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unique and EXC I can't even do this uh there's a new iPhone it's the 16e so
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it's actually not the SE anymore yeah big change uh 16e I think that makes sense didn't SE stand for special
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edition at one point yeah but then it was just the budget iPhones and now it's just the 16e cool uh this completes the
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iPhone 16 family as Tim Cook put it it is um about what we expected I mean we
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we saw some of the leaks and now we have the official specs and everything that's new here is a quick overview before I
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get uh reactions from everyone it is in fact the newest chip the a18 it does have enough RAM to run Apple
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intelligence great that's Baseline stuff it has a 6.1 1-in screen it's an OLED it
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has a notch with face ID so the home button is gone it's just face ID no
00:25:35
touch ID it does have black or white matte colors it is uh it does have an
00:25:41
action button no camera control 48 megapixel single camera on the back and
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one less GPU core than the standard iPhone 16 so it is the same a18 same neural engine but one less GPU core for
00:25:56
the budget phone no mag SA okay so it does have wireless charging up to 72 Watts but no mag safe magnets
00:26:05
and the phone has uh Apple's first in-house design cellular modem that they're calling the
00:26:11
C1 which apparently has been in development for a really long time it's supposed to be super efficient I would
00:26:16
love to test this it's they're touting a 26-hour video playback battery life which is on par with the latest
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generations of iPhones and it's $599 for 00 28 gigs starts at
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5.99 yike so initial thoughts on this uh I think a lot of people including myself
00:26:36
immediately reacted to the price whoa $599 that's a big jump from the last two
00:26:41
I don't know if you remember the last two iPhones were the last two SC iPhones were 3.99 and 429 yeah so this goes
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beyond $4.99 all the way up to$ 5.99 starting and it does obviously improve a
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lot of things from the last cheap SE it's not lightning anymore it's USBC it's uh you know face ID it's an OLED
00:27:00
there's all these things that are updated but it is still I mean you could
00:27:05
frame it as this is still 599 for a 60 HZ uh like base iPhone that has a single
00:27:12
camera and doesn't do anything special like why is it 599 tariffs of course are going to come into play here this is the
00:27:17
first I guess new iPhone where we have to consider that um true yeah I'm I'm
00:27:23
curious what the biggest surprises were to me honestly mag safe missing seems like the biggest Miss I think a lot of
00:27:30
people associate the iPhone with having mag safe and I guess that's pretty classic apple to go yeah not the cheap
00:27:36
one everyone else gets it not the cheap one that is wild but yeah like the mag safe thing uh it still has wireless
00:27:42
charging you just can't line up magnets but it's also 7.5 Watts instead of 15 because no mag sa every iPhone since the
00:27:48
iPhone 12 has had mag safe except the SE yeah yeah so the the SE still doesn't
00:27:55
have it Ellis's ma safe Ma 12 mini even yeah Ma safe uh but not on the SE so
00:28:02
that is I think probably the biggest Miss that's wild I think the biggest X Factor question mark is clearly the C1
00:28:07
chip I we don't know if that's going to be some incredible Improvement they' been using Qualcomm modems in the past
00:28:14
for context is this going to be some huge battery life Improvement that we see continue on future iPhones are they
00:28:20
going to make a bigger deal about this in future iPhone Keynotes is there some signal Improvement that I should expect
00:28:27
like what I we have to test it I don't know what to expect from the C1 the C1 is like a lot of the 5G modem but it
00:28:33
does not include millimeter wave so not that really anyone was using millimeter wave that frequently yeah but you can't
00:28:40
use millimeter which the question then becomes do they use millimeter wave for like Precision finding with the air tags
00:28:48
uh or is that that might be actually don't think that's through the cellular modem though that's not through the
00:28:54
cellular modem so it might not matter okay but they might start us the C1 to do that where they weren't before that's
00:29:00
the thing is I don't know I have to test and figure out like what things work better what things are more efficient
00:29:05
TBD so that's the X Factor the things that we know are going to be good are it's the cheap iPhone with the newest
00:29:11
chip the a18 it's going to be probably the most powerful on paper $599 phone
00:29:17
it's probably going to be a solid camera for a $599 phone mhm usually is the
00:29:24
cheap the cheap in there is relative and so much more relative now like it's just so hard calling this the cheap iPhone at
00:29:30
$600 especially when the iPhone 16's at $799 $200
00:29:36
more that's like that's a crazy jump that just AIG jump from where we came
00:29:41
from does it make any of you guys scared for Pixel 9A like it'll go way up in
00:29:46
price like that'll take a jump like this I don't think so 429 was super
00:29:52
reasonable right 429 was way more obviously the budget iPhone when was half the price of the the B iPhone and
00:29:58
that was cheaper than oh it came out a few years ago it was years ago though yeah so it is $25 a month financing for
00:30:05
2 years that's how most people in the US are going to see which is how most people in the US see this the iPhone 16
00:30:11
base is $33 a month for two years MH so it's the diff it's literally the
00:30:17
difference of $8 um and for that you are now missing
00:30:22
the dynamic Island mag safe Ultra wide Ultra wide camera mhm and I think that's
00:30:30
it a GPU core telephoto a GPU core no telepo on the B there's no T yeah I $8 a
00:30:39
month so $8 a month I guess you could get a cheap streaming service for that
00:30:44
price yeah maybe Phoebe Phoebe or or dedu or something I don't know but this
00:30:51
is it's an interesting phone I kind of I'm already starting to form my opinions because at a software level we kind of
00:30:56
already know what the iPhone is like we're not expecting some new crazy features to come with this we know what Apple intelligence is already we know
00:31:03
what iOS 18 is already we know what that looks like on an a18 we know what that
00:31:09
looks like on a 6.1 in OLED it's just strip out some of these features is this phone still for you I think there's
00:31:16
obviously a group especially people who watch waveform and who are really into Tech there's a group of people who are going are you you're telling me $600 for
00:31:23
a phone with a 60 HZ display in 2025 is that a joke are you making fun of us of course
00:31:30
that's a terrible deal and people like that this phone's not for you but there's a whole separate group of people
00:31:35
who are like what's the cheapest smallest iPhone I can get that's brand new that's going to have five six seven years of software support give me that
00:31:41
one this is the phone for you even if it's not $400 it's $600 this time but
00:31:46
this is still the correct answer to that question so whether or not this is the phone for you kind of depends on who you
00:31:53
are and yeah we just now know what the phone is I'm curious because because the
00:31:58
iPhone se's traditionally have not sold that well so I'm wondering if making a
00:32:03
more expensive phone is making them more likely to sell well I don't I mean it
00:32:09
probably shouldn't but I have a question that kind of can picky back on that yeah
00:32:14
do you think part of the reason it doesn't sell well is because of the inconsistency of when it releases cuz we
00:32:20
don't get them every year I think it's because of carrier plans okay I think it's because people don't care about the
00:32:26
difference between a few bucks a month they just get the better one yeah the pro Max for the past year or two has
00:32:32
been the bestselling version at least in the US that's says a lot yeah so the the
00:32:37
reason I asked that is because first of all I think iPhone 16e is the better naming scheme even if we've gotten used
00:32:44
to se I agree with and that's what we did my question about that is if we've now introduced this into the same number
00:32:50
of the current lineup of phones is this an every year release now that's a great
00:32:55
question if that was true and they were also releasing an air for the 17 they would have a lot of models I even in the
00:33:02
grand scheme of things it's a lot for the iPhone but it's still not that much like look at Samsung like if iPhones
00:33:08
next year are 17 17 plus 17 Pro 17 Pro Mac 17 a and 177e yeah that sounds like
00:33:17
a lot but then you look over at Samsung and they're like we have a phone at every price from $90 to
00:33:22
$1,700 at increments of 10 and they all have different names they a series their
00:33:27
Z their Galaxy S Series so I could see it the one market that they're not
00:33:32
really hitting right now where they could really dominate if they wanted to is the like pay as you go market because
00:33:38
that's where Samsung like really really tracks the reason that the a the a series Samsung phones are so insanely
00:33:44
popular is because they're sold at Boost Mobile as like pay as you go phones yeah they are much cheaper though way cheaper
00:33:51
yeah really cheap really cheap like they they'll go plastic they'll go like $229
00:33:56
I don't think Apple wants to really compete in that market because you have to make pretty low quality stuff I have
00:34:02
a question for you guys this's something Harper asked me and I was stumped should you get this phone or an iPhone
00:34:10
15 15 I'll tell you what Apple would say and then I'll tell you what I would say regular 15 like a base 15 yeah base 15
00:34:17
not pro regular 15 Apple would say you don't get apple intelligence with a Bas 15 that's what apple is you don't get
00:34:23
apple intelligence with this one either no you do you do I thought it's still rolling out
00:34:29
two different things two different things yeah 15 is never getting Apple intelligence 16e has enough RAM it it
00:34:35
has Apple intelligence has an action button uh what I would say is I get this
00:34:40
how much do you care about the two things that are like meaningfully different to the experience the ultrawide camera and one extra year of
00:34:49
software updates like those are the the things that are maybe meaningfully different mag safe how much do you care
00:34:55
about those things oh I love mag oh I know and I think if you do care about those things you you should get the 15
00:35:01
cuz you can get it for as cheap probably less right now if you bought it straight from Apple it's $6.99 versus $5.99 yeah
00:35:08
it's a $100 more for a 15 for a brand new 15 today yeah cuz I just continued the discontinued the 14 so the cheapest
00:35:14
okay so a 15 is $6.99 but it has and that gets you an ultra wide the dynamic Island Ultra wide
00:35:21
Max one less year of software and no apple intelligence which could be a plus
00:35:27
um but and it has the action button and wait does it no doesn't wait Did they
00:35:34
really just announce the action button the 16 oh no no sorry that 15 did have it had oh only the pro had it oh is that
00:35:43
true let me look it up oh the 15 Pro had the action button have yeah so so if you want an
00:35:50
action button you got to get the 16e I do like the action button are you
00:35:55
a yeah I guess you won't know unless you start using a phone if you actually care about the action button $100 yeah apple needs like one of those
00:36:03
like what Marvel character are you quizzes for the very specifics of which thing you need and that's like like find
00:36:10
the perfect person for the iPhone 16e that wouldn't rather have an iPhone 15
00:36:16
wouldn't rather just go to the iPhone 16 regular yeah or bu a used iPhone 15 for
00:36:23
way less money if you need yeah if you're not paying on the the monthly dollar amount
00:36:29
you know who this is for when I worked at Best Buy Mobile there were people that would come in with like a really old six-year-old phone and just be like
00:36:36
give me the cheapest newest one 100% yeah and that's who it's for the cheapest newest one I could also see
00:36:41
this being for the company that wants to buy everyone work phones and at $200
00:36:47
cheaper for every single phone and you're buying the is for Enterprise there we go oh no isn't it
00:36:53
always for Enterprise or education wow oh I think it's for expensive it's for
00:36:58
eggs that's why it's overpriced I thought it was for Ellis yeah Ellis we will we will get our
00:37:04
hands on this phone we will test it we will review it stay tuned of course for those thoughts um but yeah iPhone 16e
00:37:11
that is out another phone that also has a small letter at the end of its name is not out yet God I'm crushing the Segway
00:37:18
you really are that's pretty good there was a comment last week that said y'all are really getting lazy on the Segways
00:37:23
and you just welcome back brought it back to thisis wel back I like the last one that was good nothing phone 3A it's
00:37:30
not really unveiled we're getting the classic like dribble of information I think last week nothing said it'll have
00:37:35
a Qualcomm chip and that was it cool um this week
00:37:41
on their YouTube channel they did a very very objective uh smartphone camera
00:37:47
comparison so they didn't show the design of the phone but they showed that they were taking photos alongside a 16
00:37:52
an iPhone 16 Pro Max and a couple random different scenarios compared them back to back and then
00:37:59
concluded that they were very impressed with their own product Marquez was it was it deceptive at all
00:38:04
look if you're nothing you are incentivized to make your device look as good as possible you don't make that
00:38:10
video if you don't think it'll work well so if there are instances where you can give the nothing phone and Edge you'll do it uh I think one instance was the
00:38:18
video stabilization section where they compared the ultra wide of the iPhone to the regular camera on the six on the
00:38:24
nothing phone 3A the quality is so much worse on the ultra wide camera it's a fact it's pretty it's pretty bad so look
00:38:31
I look forward to the phone 3A coming out I have no doubt that they're trying to Hype that it'll be a better camera
00:38:37
because the spec by itself convinces no one it's an interesting YouTube video it's also an interesting case study in a
00:38:44
company reviewing its own products I don't know how people feel about that me personally I want to believe that they
00:38:49
can do an objective job but like they're not doesn't work like I can't watch that video and then have them at the end go
00:38:55
I'm very impressed by our product well yeah obviously um but if you're super
00:39:01
curious about this phone coming up there's a glimpse at some stuff that it'll be capable of yeah uh and that's
00:39:06
the nothing phone 3A can I just say I love this roll out that they're doing
00:39:12
because the teas of I don't think they're trying to be objective I think this is them being like instead of
00:39:17
sending it to influencers let's just do our own videos we'll influence ourselves I think that that's essentially what the
00:39:26
like mood board for their YouTube channel yeah I think they went wow people really seem to like the
00:39:32
trustworthy voices in this sort of casual style where we talk about phones so how about we just do that for our own
00:39:39
phones and we have unlimited exclusive access to everything we make and you don't even have to pretend to be ethical
00:39:46
cuz you are the company I think that is like important is we know they're not going to be objective because it
00:39:52
physically says it's from nothing so we know they're the ones doing it and I give them credit they're they're good at
00:39:58
knowing Their audience and being kind of it's more personal seeing them doing stuff like this and I went into it like
00:40:04
cool they're doing a great job and then when I saw the comments were all saying like that's definitely the ultra wide
00:40:10
camera they did the video on on and they didn't it's not only that they didn't mention that it's that right before it
00:40:16
they said we're recording both of these in like 4K 30 just so you know the iPhone can go
00:40:23
higher frame rate but we're trying to make it fair so like they gave the iPhone credit while also
00:40:29
like by that giv credit makes it feel more trustworthy to then not mention the biggest issue is yeah I want I feel like
00:40:37
I want to give them credit because they are doing something unique you don't see this type of stuff from Samsung yeah
00:40:43
imagine if Samsung did this yeah it would feel crazy so it is very fun and
00:40:48
start upy and competitive and interesting and we pay attention to it but uh I don't think we should be going
00:40:55
there for purely objective information so we we joke around about nothing and Carl
00:41:00
pay a lot you know but I do think if Samsung attempted to do this it would be
00:41:05
the most cring thing be so and Samsung we love you but don't do this like like
00:41:13
it would be it would be oh my God it would make it would make all the hairs on your
00:41:19
arms stand up and just be like oh yeah yeah yeah um it kind of gives the old
00:41:24
moment YouTube channel Vibes if you remember remember that Mo moment is this like camera camera accessories company
00:41:32
that used to review their own lenses and stuff although they didn't they didn't really say they were reviews they would
00:41:37
be like showc was capable of yeah which felt more ethical than this yeah I think
00:41:43
it's when you bring in a competitor's product and compare it directly to it you're like now I don't know if I can
00:41:48
listen to anything definitely don't know I don't think I can listen to anything you're saying yeah yeah they they're
00:41:54
very good at doing the like compliment sandwich of of of like let's say one nice thing about our competitor which
00:41:59
therefore makes it feel closer and then for the next 20 minutes talk about
00:42:05
everything one of their most popular videos was Carl Carl pay reviewing the new iPhone which they did exactly that
00:42:11
he's like actually their engineering is very good on this like I'm very impressed and then 20 minutes of good
00:42:17
things about the nothing phone so I remember when Zuck reviewed the Vision Pro and he just was like I used the
00:42:22
Vision Pro and then I used our meta Quest Pro and I was just shocked at how much better our product is wait do you
00:42:29
remember the best part of that video it was filmed on a meta Quest 3 and he turns around and there's the guy just
00:42:36
standing like this forgot about that forgot about that too yeah and it makes it hard because like sometimes what
00:42:42
they're saying can actually be true it's just we we have to hear it from an unbiased third party to actually take it
00:42:48
seriously yeah like our podcast is super well produced and it's the greatest podcast in the world so especially when compared to other Tech podcasts
00:42:55
sometimes I watch those and I'm just so amazed that how much better ours looks and sounds and is just produced yeah
00:43:02
it's a fact but don't take it for me yeah well do take it don't listen to any other podcast yeah do take it from me
00:43:08
yeah no I mean that's why it look so bad definitely get your news from a variety of sources this is pretty classic uh
00:43:15
media literacy 101 but yeah you know we got a little a little peek at the 3A yeah that was cool okay well it'll come
00:43:21
out eventually eventually um I don't think so Carl P had said that the nothing phone 3 was was going to be
00:43:27
their first AI phone so usually they like the nothing phone 2A came out after
00:43:33
the nothing phone 2 so now they're releasing the 3A before the three and the a is the cheaper the regular is the
00:43:41
flagship so the three I believe is slated for like I don't know I think they said later this year some summer or
00:43:46
something and that's their first AI phone which will be interesting and weird before we go to before we leave
00:43:53
nothing I did want to I think we've got an interesting opportunity for a little future wager prediction uhoh which is
00:44:00
when the inevitable nothing AI assistant comes out what are they going to name
00:44:08
it and I will not accept little Carl as an answer oh God I wanted to be little
00:44:15
Carl Carl I so you know how Samsung did that weird thing where they combined
00:44:21
Bixby and Gemini and it was just kind of like Gemini with plugins in the s25
00:44:26
lineup mhm yeah it could be along those lines and what was interesting was I was
00:44:33
talking to them about it and they said there's no name for it for the assistant for the assistant but you can still say
00:44:39
I mean it is called nothing Google or Gemini but for nothing this was for Samsung for nothing though uh you you
00:44:47
still just say Google or Gemini to pull it up so I think that will still be true
00:44:52
I don't think they're going to name it at all do you say hey Gemini now you still say hey a g yeah Google but does
00:44:58
Gemini can can you say hey Gemini I don't I've never actually tried I don't think I've tried that let's try right
00:45:04
now have Gemini attached to my action button so that's how I P I thought you had to launch Gemini all right mute me real quick
00:45:10
hey okay that worked hey Gemini hey Gemini okay
00:45:17
Gemini no it doesn't work brilliant branding Google yeah rename everything and then not allow you to call it okay
00:45:23
nice I think they're going to name it after the bird do you remember the bird from all the nothing phone one
00:45:30
advertisements the parrot oh the parrot I think it's going to be called like parrot or bird guy or something like
00:45:36
that something bird related yeah do you think they're going to you're have to squawk squawk
00:45:42
yeah anyway trivia wait did everyone say their predictions I wasn't creative all
00:45:49
right I'll go with little Carl no name little Carl God I really hope it's
00:45:54
little Carl trivia dude so we just finished talking about nothing but they also sell like usual welcome to way for
00:46:03
they also sell other things you know like headphones and under their sub
00:46:08
brand cmf they also sell like the watch you know uh but did you know that they
00:46:13
also sell a 5.1% beer named what what
00:46:19
they sell beer they sell beer there is it rebranded there's nothing beer 5.1%
00:46:24
alcohol how much is that a lot sir sir what have you been drinking nothing
00:46:30
nothing hey loophole but what is the name of that beer huh H this is uh
00:46:37
another trivia question that little Carl
00:46:42
car I wasn't built for this question some one of you may get it but not me we we we'll think about it we'll think
00:46:48
about it we'll be right back [Music]
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00:49:25
cover um one one I hold very near and dear to my heart not really but Reddit I
00:49:31
didn't realize you car that much about Kindle you could talk about that uh Reddit will be launching paid
00:49:39
subreddits okay I'm going to okay there was a comment last week that said Andrew really bums me out so I'm going to be
00:49:45
optimistic about this wait no this is not the time you don't have to be optimistic about this this is you know
00:49:51
that asteroid that might hit Earth a few years I don't want to bump anything but like the percentage of it hitting Earth
00:49:58
went up it did go up I saw an article that did go up all right okay so Steve
00:50:03
Huffman this the CEO of Reddit and one of the founders of Reddit did a video AMA because he's too much of a coward to
00:50:10
do a regular AMA um a video is where you just answer questions in video form I
00:50:15
don't know where he grabbed the questions I'm sure there might have been one but it it means it you can't obviously be skipping the the number one
00:50:22
upvoted one like do you know when you've done your amas it's kind of hard to skip the one that's like yeah at the top with
00:50:27
thousands of the questions were definitely written from real people and people on the Reddit team yeah totally
00:50:33
um he did mention that there's plans he said this before plans for some sort of pay wall content on Reddit he said
00:50:38
there's one coming we're working on it as we speak so I tried to take the optimistic approach here and thought of
00:50:44
a way that might be beneficial for a pay wall subreddit what' you come up with
00:50:50
and I'll pitch it to you guys patreon I I think a a creator person focused
00:50:58
commun like paywall Community could be the perfect in between of like patreon which is fairly slow and Discord premium
00:51:06
which is fairly quick in terms of chatting yeah I think that could be beneficial it could be pretty cool as
00:51:11
long as that payments is partially going to the creator of it right then I don't know though how who creates the
00:51:18
subreddit who would get payment because how would someone else not just create the MKBHD subreddit right now our
00:51:23
subreddit we don't even control we have no control over um so I that that was my idea here judging by how reddit's gone
00:51:31
lately it's probably just a money grab and will be total garbage very unhappy
00:51:36
with what Reddit has been doing in the last couple of years uh however optimistic approach I do think that
00:51:44
putting a like paid I will see something that I pay for in my feed that I'm already scrolling approach is a good way
00:51:51
to do it cuz the problem with patreon is that you either have to check your email a lot and read everything in your email
00:51:57
which is a bad experience or you have to go to the patreon website in order to consume the content and like nobody just
00:52:03
frequents the patreon website right but if you're already scrolling Reddit and it just like a subreddit that you
00:52:08
subscribe to just shows up in your Reddit feed passively it's like I have access to content that I didn't have
00:52:14
before and is now part of my stream of content so I think that that is a good way to consume paid content is just to
00:52:21
have it appear with your other content I don't love that it's like isolated to
00:52:27
Reddit and you have to probably use the official Reddit app and all this stuff so this is exactly how Twitter does it
00:52:34
right now you just described right so if you subscribe to someone on Twitter uh their paid content shows up inside the
00:52:41
feed along with the rest of the free content and if you aren't subscribed it actually shows you a tiny oneline
00:52:46
preview encouraging you to then go subscribe and pay to see the whole thing to unlock the posting or feed so it
00:52:52
makes sense it makes sense because also like people just scroll Reddit that's the thing are around and so it acts as a
00:52:58
platform to surface people exploring and finding new things so I can see that working out yeah I'm not shocked by it I
00:53:06
bet Reddit takes a cut and it's a competitive like they are platform so they're going to take a cut because
00:53:11
they're servicing things to people but then hopefully people who wouldn't have found as much of an audience on patreon
00:53:16
without that active people scrolling will have a bigger audience because Reddit just surfaces it to people also
00:53:23
over under on Reddit forcing you to subscribe to the subreddits on desktop
00:53:29
because Apple would take a cut of whatever very good point yeah so if
00:53:34
you're in the Reddit app there's another 30% gone yeah damn yeah that's probably
00:53:39
going to happen this is based on very little information like I don't know if that's what they're doing that's my my
00:53:46
best take and I think that seems the most reasonable way to do it right is like to have a community communities
00:53:52
like to communities are more fun when they're small right cuz it actually feels like you're particip so by having a premium Community where
00:54:00
there is a a pay wall to get in guarantees a closer knit and especially
00:54:05
one that can get brigaded by something else right that does seem beneficial um
00:54:12
and I could totally see it working I hate to give Reddit credit it'll still be on the worst app in all of history
00:54:18
and um I still hate Steve Huffman so there used to be a feature on the Reddit app where you could like go to the next
00:54:25
comment by hitting this little bubble and I no longer have it on my app I do don't remember that there for you you're
00:54:30
talking about collapsing a thread and the next thread come out it like just jumps to the next thread I thought they changed kind of how threading Works in
00:54:38
Reddit recently I still use uh relay Sor in the comments yeah I'm jealous I'm
00:54:43
trying something with a good comment actually Incredible App yeah see there's no thing anymore there used to be a little bubble in the bottom right corner
00:54:49
that would jump you the next head what are you doing oh that does there's a little arrow down here oh yeah I don't
00:54:54
that's not on the IOS app anymore this app sucks yeah it's really bad yeah it's
00:55:01
quite bad that's actually good to know damn they did put in a nice feature see it's just not in the IOS app
00:55:08
anymore H damn yeah e iPhone uses I will say if you like I I've had a
00:55:14
continuously pretty good Reddit experience using relay on Android yeah so if you want a good Reddit experience
00:55:21
how much is it a month it's not cheap it's like eight bucks right it has to be
00:55:27
not cheap because of how much how much it costs the developer for that it's not cheap yeah that's true low key that
00:55:33
might actually be worth it though if you use Reddit yeah yeah can sort through things easily
00:55:39
subscription if I just cancel my T subscription I could probably pay for that shows me my API usage wow with a
00:55:47
breakdown loading comments loading feed profiles wow dang yeah but PID
00:55:54
subreddits actually kind of a good idea worst person you a great
00:56:01
point the best part is he hasn't even made the point we've we've developed the point for him yeah so question um they
00:56:10
have an they have an in Reddit video player and photo image viewer now right
00:56:15
maybe that's why they were doing that instead of just having a YouTube INB bed where they can't like host the content
00:56:22
now it's like also better than patreon and that you can like host it locally just on the subreddit as well so you
00:56:27
have to go on reddit.com in order to view the like subscriber only content that could be interesting yeah yeah yeah
00:56:34
it all checks out it all checks out we'll keep an eye on it well speaking of speaking of checking out speaking of
00:56:41
eyes eyes you use them to read oh
00:56:47
your sandwiches sandwiches book that you don't own anymore I thought mine was pretty good I said speaking of checking
00:56:53
out and then I was going to go to Amazon yeah Amazon exists that was a good oh I see checking out I was my head
00:56:59
went to like libraries like checking out books wait wait Amazon exists yeah yeah since when you didn't hear speaking of
00:57:06
yeah no the whole thing they sell books I hope you haven't checked out of this
00:57:11
podcast yet but what is what is happening with Amazon and books though Adam Amazon is
00:57:18
removing a feature that will let you download your purchased ebook to your computer first cool cool cool cool so
00:57:24
not a huge deal because most people probably don't interact with their ebooks that way like if you like
00:57:29
personally when I buy an ebook on Kindle um I just download it straight to the device you know like straight through
00:57:35
Wi-Fi whatever but there is a way to download it to the computer first and then transfer it via USB cable to your
00:57:42
device if you wanted to do that for whatever reason one of the reasons is that that basically allows you to strip
00:57:48
it of DRM content and then you can put it on any other e-reader that you have
00:57:54
because if you don't have a Kindle you just put it on a regular e-reader or whatever also that allows you to
00:58:00
basically own the ebook that you purchased Yeah well yeah cuz you bought it yeah well we can't have that that's
00:58:05
not going to happen anymore Amon can't have that because now when you down because you can't download it anymore
00:58:10
it's basically like streaming like you know how that is horrible yeah like how PlayStation if you buy the digital
00:58:17
version technically you don't like own the game you know it's the same situation now with books so if in for
00:58:22
whatever reason Amazon decides to stop hosting a book or or if they change the covers of books that's one thing people
00:58:28
have been complaining about or they like update the versions of the books your ebook will change because it's like
00:58:33
reflecting the changes that Amazon is doing on their end even though you purchased it so like what do you really
00:58:38
own anymore so you're basically purchasing an indefinite license yeah you're licensing the right to stream
00:58:44
this I hate the future yep iTunes too
00:58:49
yeah and not that this is something that affects any of us but I'm pretty sure back in the day if you died Apple took
00:58:54
all your iTunes files back and you couldn't pass them down to your kids they just put them up to the cloud damn
00:58:59
with you bless out so basically if you have a big ebook Library in Kindle you
00:59:06
have until February 26th to download all of your ebooks because after that you will no longer be able to I think meta
00:59:12
just downloaded like 82 terabytes of it allegedly allegedly I heard out of
00:59:18
curiosity will you still be able to side load ebooks onto a Kindle onto a Kindle
00:59:24
yeah probably I believe so there's like to Cloud app that you can use that they haven't updated since 2006 but it okay
00:59:31
okay this is more so how this is more so how you get books from Amazon like
00:59:36
Amazon's changing it on their end how you do this I'll just go to borders instead yeah do that but what is like
00:59:42
purchasing anything anymore in this digital age like do we actually own anything yeah nope I don't think so when
00:59:47
I buy a hogy I eat it and then it just disappears from my stomach when they decide to discontinue it you're just
00:59:54
licensing I'm licensing the nutrients what what percentage of our audience
00:59:59
knows what a hogi is oh it's a sandwich it's a hero it's pretty original
01:00:05
right we've gone off the deep I think it's time to wrap up the
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Pod with [Music]
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trivia all right question number one fellas tono cover we get it from French
01:00:22
but specifically we get it from the French word for what hit it a barrel B
01:00:30
tunnel C mattress or D ton like the unit
01:00:36
of measurement and this question took a lot
01:00:42
of research so please don't mess it up are
01:00:47
you sure that the research was correct why would you say that in front of why would you say that in front of our
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audience be like I don't know Ellis maybe they shouldn't trust you 100% just
01:00:59
make sure you ask jet chbt first to confir oh yeah sure that'll get me the right answer all right flip him and read
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who wants to go first I just went with ton ton is
01:01:11
correct nice let's go so I also did that so you also got it David you put
01:01:18
mattress mattress I made up but in a rare in fact for the very first time in waveform multiple choice history there
01:01:24
were two correct answers amongst this four because ton ton
01:01:31
Toano actually comes is the French word for Barrel more specifically like a cask
01:01:38
like a large barrel and the English word ton comes also from that word because
01:01:45
you know this was the part that was really complicated to make sure I had to get right but essentially you started off by me measuring most of like how
01:01:53
much stuff you could carry on a boat in how many barels you could fit on it and then over time through some complicated
01:02:00
language stuff we extrapolated the word ton from that French word Barrel anyway
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thank you for coming to my TED Talk all that to say David you did actually have a 5050 shot to say that do you know how I know
01:02:13
it wasn't mattress Ellis was so eager to say his like like like the bed of a
01:02:19
truck come on I was like that's not it he's too proud of making that up yeah I
01:02:24
should have known that was the French would have not said mattress they
01:02:29
probably have another word for Mattress it's like sleeper something like that this has been Linguistics with way for
01:02:35
but I really wanted to say damn there was a 50% chance how'd you come up with that sorry I should that's really mean
01:02:43
quick update on the score I apologize Marquez with six okay Andrew with four
01:02:50
after those two correct points good job guys David still in the lead with 10
01:02:56
if you combine Andrew and marquez's points a tie it's TI you both I should
01:03:02
have known it was a mattress should have okay next question nothing makes a beer what is it
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[Music] called I just don't write it's called
01:03:17
nothing it's 5.1% it definitely has a name huh oh sorry it appears you cannot
01:03:23
buy this beer everywhere yet not yet oh really but there is a mailing list how many points does David have 10 oh he has
01:03:30
10 I thought he said 12 for some reason your math did not have the math a ma math
01:03:35
then what is it called flip him and read what do you
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got oh good guesses D you have that's so really I put not beer no but I wish it
01:03:46
was I put dot no Marquez I put nothing no it's called beer dang I thought about
01:03:56
that you were the closest you literally put not beer but
01:04:01
it is beer so what kind of beer is it it is a light logger of course it is the
01:04:08
easiest beer to manufacture I'm sure you just met a few people with that I think I read somewh
01:04:14
it was like a Japanese style logger maybe I would be into that anyway guys I think that has been our show unless
01:04:21
anyone else has something oh to that dude who posted in the in the
01:04:26
not our MKBHD subreddit saying like I found your thing that's the same problem I keep having that's just a a
01:04:33
thermometer you put a thermometer in your house and it tells you I used to have one of those that just rang a bell
01:04:39
I used to have one of those yeah they're fine but to me it's like no no I want I want forecast I want High you talking I
01:04:45
want I'm talking about last week about the Brookstone weather cast okay thank you for but I used to have the thing that that guy posted where you'd put a
01:04:51
little thermometer in your window yeah yeah yeah that's great but it's not it's not it's not it's not the I want to know
01:04:57
someone deleted it it just said didn't it say like here you go Alice yeah which is a deep cut reference to uh the wave
01:05:04
form podcast but uh well I think that about does it for our show right yeah
01:05:10
that's for sure no more news no more news no more news we covered all the news for sure nothing will happen between now and Friday thanks for
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watching thanks for listening and uh again let us know at South by Southwest
01:05:22
what we should do to invol ev/ incorporate you guys who will also be at
01:05:28
South by Southwest let us know in a comment we'll definitely do the most upvoted
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thing whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa maybe cut that part anyway
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that's it catch you guys next week peace W from was produced by Adam Alena and Ellis Ren we're partner with the Fox
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Media podcast Network and our interor music was created by V Sil Bingo let's go
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you said which one seems obvious and I don't want to say that out loud if well if it's so obvious then your boys are
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probably thinking it too not these more hun well the not these people with eight
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times the amount of points that I have mattress cover
