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does that count as Auto yeah it's a car company but the question was about superheroes
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yeah but one of the questions not really one of the questions was where did rivian get its name from that's not
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about rivers it's about cars what rivian yeah listen the logic is Flawless on that and with that waveform was produced by Alice Molina and Alice Roman
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Alice rope and Alice what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm
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Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David and uh it's September so we got a lot to talk about that's just kind of how it goes
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yeah I think this week we we want to talk about a couple things that are a little all over the place the pole Star
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phone cyber truck spoon uh I I don't know like we kind of just have weird stuff to talk about this time just the way it went random word generator
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um but also we will do our our full iPhone event Roundup and predictions because there's a lot to expect uh to
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kick off September that's kind of the thing that marks the beginning of September I think and then also uh
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Google getting rid of a service at the worst possible time we'll talk about that later always the worst possible time yeah this one might be the the
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worst out of all the ones they've done that's true surprising but first Ellis has a correction from last week hey guys
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I was uh wrong allegedly okay no remember last week I was like Sony link those dogs with their Wi-Fi Direct or I said I it's it's it smelled
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of uh of Wi-Fi direct me someone uh Anonymous who is kind of in the know reached out to me and was like I don't know for sure but I'm pretty sure it's not Wi-Fi Direct they said for battery
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life reasons they said it's much more likely that they developed their own proprietary protocol on a 2.4 gigahertz
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band oh so that makes more sense yeah it smells like Wi-Fi Direct but it might not be so even though I didn't say that for a certain just wanted to clear the air a little bit before the Sony hounds
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uh wind up bro I don't care it's a proprietary protocol they're 200 earbuds I don't care what protocol it uses all
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right do more well we'll jump more into the the iPhone event stuff after the break but we do have a couple of weird
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random word generator articles to talk about uh which one do you want to start I have a fun one here to start that I
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didn't ask either of you if you saw this or not because I thought it was funny did you see there's a new app with short
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form content yeah I read every article on the internet yeah if you didn't see this if you had to guess which app do
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you think is launching short form content which app so it's an existing app that's launching short form content
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yes you're gonna get it wrong but it's funny LinkedIn I wish man that was that makes way more sense it does yeah like it actually kind of makes something it might be Spotify
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and the short new we just talked about it not that long ago that like the music that's Clips oh yeah Clips yeah is this
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an app that already has content it's an app that serves you other apps I don't know
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the App Store the Google Play Store Google place what yeah wait what uh so so an app already has like video listings is that what you're gonna tell me no no no the Google Play Store is
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going to have short form content so right now inside of an app listing no you can have screenshots and or short
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videos it's not that oh God what is it it's worse the play report what it is now an original series that
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spotlights the latest and greatest apps and games on Google Play and it will be available there's a for you page on the Google
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Play Store oh my God and Google will shut it down in 15 minutes I guarantee can we make a bet someone this shuts
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down will this podcast be published by the time this shuts down yeah it's literally
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okay at the I'm looking at the screenshots here now that I've clicked this the top of the Google Play store
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which normally just has some apps because it's the Play Store instead has a screenshot a thumbnail of a short it's a sure it's a YouTube short
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actually I guess that I didn't look at that that part's confusing the bottom says shorts but the top has a like
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Watermark that says Google Play play some the article says behind the scenes this just appears to be YouTube shorts
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with the app store already supporting regular videos and listings right Google is uh piloting this new way to surface
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hidden gems and trending apps games in the US it does have to be a little further though because I'm assuming you can swipe through this like shorts to
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see other play report things right yeah if you click into this and you're in the
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shorts feed and then you swipe are you just gonna go to a random other YouTube shirt or are you going to go to another Play Store related short I would assume
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it has to be a place if you just are in the Play Store to download an app get distracted and now all of a sudden
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you're 45 minutes into short form like Tick Tock style content that would be hilarious it could happen I don't yet
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have this on my phone but I think we also have not seen us on my phone yeah oh it does say for those who aren't seeing the play report today day the shorts will also be uploaded to Google
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also you can just follow it on Google on YouTube as well yeah I was gonna say I think it's the Google Play account and
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that's why it says Google play in the screenshot okay wow Google Play is its own YouTube channel yeah all the all
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these Services out there on YouTube channel but that's a nice way of like keeping track of the graveyard of Google services that have existed is because
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they all still have their old YouTube channels out there in the world nice yeah okay wow we can move on nice yeah
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that's rough that's where I'm gonna spend all my time oh there we go I found them all there they are 182 views well
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wow they can't even there's only five I own shorts yeah I guess it's early I mean it's not fully out for everybody
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yet I guess um but let's keep an eye on that let's see how many views they pump in from the Google Play Store I think that's gone by
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the end of 365 days from now absolutely gone 100 that's a pretty long tenured Google like the last video will be uploaded before the end of 2024.
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last short anyway 100 yeah before probably before the end of this year all right well moving on from uh Google Play
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Store shorts to either pull Star phone or cyber truck spoon which which should we do first I want to talk about the pull start phone okay yeah well I haven't I haven't actually I don't know
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anything about it so please I'll tell you about it okay so at a press conference very recently the pollstar
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CEO said that they are going to be shipping a Pulstar branded phone in partnership with my zoo or meizu okay um by in December uh for those that don't
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know meizu or Mizu however you pronounce it is a Chinese phone brand that makes generally mid-range phones and they're
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generally really weirdly shaped um the first one I ever saw was when I started working here and it had like a screen on the back so you could take selfies with the normal camera it was
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like inside the camera bump and that was I know we've done that more since then but that was the first time I ever got
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introduced to their stuff my friend I haven't seen it since yeah my friend Ayano who works for Engadget Japan she
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loves the phones because they make these weird phones that have like ring lights built in and that have like really good cameras they make really weird phones I
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mean they make some generic phones but they also make weird phones yeah yeah so apparently um meizu got a majority stakehold was
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acquired by pole star slash Volvo's parent company last year so now the parent company owns well that doesn't own fully amazing but own the majority stake in meizu so basically and also
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owns post pollstar so now they're making some Post-Star branded phone for the Chinese market I believe it's only for
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the Chinese market because it runs it doesn't run um a normal version of Android it runs
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like a fork of Android that is used in China without the Google Play Store yeah uh and so it's gonna ship with the
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Pulstar four so it's going to sort of be like a companion device and the CEO is is
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saying like oh we want to live in this future where like the phone and the car like the same things you get in the car
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and you can like play the same apps on the car is that the pole star CEO saying that or is that okay yeah just to
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clarify Gili is the company that owns all of them right okay owns is the parent company that we're talking about that owns a lot of different they own a lot of stuff um they bought Volvo from Ford in 2010
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so that's they also own Lotus um so yeah so I got really excited when I saw the headline of this initially
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because it just had pull Stars making its own phone as people may know Pulstar also is like makes like like motorcycles
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and like quad stuff now actually I didn't know it's it's not directly through them it's like a partnership
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with other brands but so a lot of people thought like oh they're just kind of sticking their brand on like a my Zoo
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phone the Bugatti scooter it sounds good yeah but apparently it's going to run the same Os or a version of the same OS
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as the car will be running in China so it'll have more tight integration and that's also a little confusing for us
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because we're used to pull start with Android automotive but now I guess I don't know what it's like
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Android internet I don't think so I'm hoping that doesn't touch Android automotive over here I agree because I
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am a full stand of Android automotive on whoever wants to do it yeah I think that'll continue on poll Stars here good
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yeah and Volvos and all that so I want to see what that looks like I think it's funny because um the Tesla phone has been like this
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like funny fake thing for years yeah was that a caviar phone or was it or well there was like the caviar cyber truck phone right yeah that was a totally separate thing there's always been rumors of like oh what if Tesla made a
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phone what if Tesla made a phone and then people always like to make like mock-ups of like a Tesla phone yeah and
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I don't know there's been occasional rumors of like Tesla buying a phone company or making their own phone but
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it's never happened yeah and to me all of this just kind of Screams like wow phones are really good and easy to use and cars aren't car software still sucks and
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people are actually interested in the idea of a phone that like pairs with your car and like Works seamlessly when no one seems to be able to make good car software yeah maybe this is going to be
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a good version of that I don't know but it's an interesting point because we talk about bad car software all the
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time and we also talk about bad phone software but I would generally rather use the bottom end of bad phone software
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over the high end of good car software depends way higher for phones the ceilings with the floor is pretty low for both yeah
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yeah like a lot of car software is very bad if we're talking about majority there's like Tesla and rivian that's
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doing pretty good theirs are good but like that's still nowhere close to the Top Line of phone software exactly the
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bottom line of phone software is still Android and still ultimately just being inhibited by some Hardware that is weird
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talking about uh when Apple had this whole carplay like demo that never happens the
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whole idea was like it'll be your phone but your car and everyone thought that would be really nice and convenient easy
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to use and if you ask I bet if you surveyed average people and asked would you rather have an iPad stuck in the middle of your car that you already know how to use or would you rather have like the
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current car software experience I bet most people would be like yeah just like give me an app on the iPad that just does everything and that's kind of just
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what Tesla did they just went everything's on the screen now yeah so most car software is pretty bad
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most phone software is even if it's not pretty good it's more familiar to the average person and they'd rather just
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use that so and especially if you're using it every day on your phone it's going to be more like you're just going to be used to it
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now going in between it we all love ecosystems it makes sense also making good car batteries does not translate
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necessarily to making good phone batteries just want to put that out there totally different battery definitely does not completely different
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I think people thought Tesla would make a good phone because Tesla has like good EVs and Good batteries for some reason
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and they're like oh that would make a good battery life on its own that's all there is that's a completely that's not
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the same yeah totally different battery just so you know it doesn't but what if Tesla no no made a spoon
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uh I think the translation works pretty well interesting go on tell me more go on this is just we all woke up to this this morning of a tweet about Tesla
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China partnering with McDonald's to launch a cyber spoon that's four dollars that comes with your McFlurry on one
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hand I totally understand this and on the other hand I don't get this at all well you're not the only one who doesn't get it because Elon immediately upon
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responded that it was fake news yeah to where then Sawyer who originally tweeted it had to bring in a bunch more
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information proving to him that it was real because McDonald's has already posted about it and Tesla China has
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already posted about it so it's just there's a bunch of images of the official like product and marketing for
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it on their Wi-Fi so this is a so this is real what is happening is this a spoon that you get when you order a
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certain menu item or something they hold on you know what a McFlurry is right uh kind of yeah okay
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I'm sorry I had to confirm there it's an ice cream it's an ice cream okay yeah that's Blended and then it comes with
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this big usually a usually the spoon is Big because that's what they use to mix each one they like put it on actually no
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Market yeah my guys would appreciate this so picture like a big Hollow spoon right then you fill this paper cup with
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soft serve and Topping of your choosing then they affixed the spoon to like a rotating spindle really which stirs your McFlurry then they detach the spoon from
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it and hand it to you so that's like an iconic part of the McFlurry if you're like a nerd like us well if the ice
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cream machine works because in my line I'm like who cares about the spoon that comes with the it's like Wendy's has
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made whatever the smoothies they've made forever like I don't care what spoon I get with it like but now shaped cyber
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truck s yeah cool does look like it comes to the carrying it looks dull but okay wait but I yeah I don't see the how
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they would attach this I think I don't either it's the one that stirs it I think it's a two spoon situation I think
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this is a collector thing I mean McDonald's and fast food places do collector stuff all the time and people
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are obsessed with collecting stuff from fast food um what is this this is it metal though is it it looks metal but it's also four
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bucks and has a carrying case I have a hard time believing it look at it in the second one it's got it
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it says right there's a like so I'm just trying to fully understand this so you're interested what part are you stuck on you spend an extra four dollars yeah so
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you go you go hi I'd like a McFlurry or whatever it's called here you go would you like the optional four dollar extra
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cyber spoon listen and then you say yes let's take a step back have you ever seen limited edition stuff at McDonald's
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people you don't get asked people go in there and demand this stuff do you remember when the Rick and Morty sauce
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came out all hell broke loose you didn't say like hey do you want Szechuan sauce
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you have to fight people off the counters for like crawling over I thought that was like Mulan sauce
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it was originally a promotional oh was it or the 90s and then it got like memed into Rick and Morty and then they brought it back and did you pay extra for it that you didn't pay extra for it
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yeah but I'm just saying limited release stuff people are selling that people didn't feel like a lot of money I still own two Burger King Star Wars watches
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from uh that's hot childhood that's sick yeah and you had to buy them uh my parents probably did yes yeah it is an extra four bucks
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anyway Tesla's thrown their name on various like random pieces of merch for years and and Dem and create a lot of
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demand and hype for them I have the surfboard like they made a surfboard once they've made random models of their
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cars and alcohol the tequila yeah sorry so that part's not new so I guess I shouldn't be shocked by a four dollar spoon with the Tesla logo on it it doesn't have a look
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as far as I know or it has a quote um [Laughter] I guess I don't know the hilarious part about this though is that elon's like it's fake news and Sawyer's like no it's
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not it was posted by the Tesla China accounts and it's on the weibo and then he just replies in that case I'll
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definitely have some so he just has no idea what's happening over there yeah there's a lot of funny
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things going on in this as a whole I think there's it's funny because this isn't weird for a CEO to not know every
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minutia of everything that happens with this company but it is funny that he tweeted that it's fake and doesn't yeah rather than just like asking someone
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checking real quick yeah just check just to make sure but he's on Twitter all day so he doesn't check uh in Twitter all
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day can we go McFlurries wait what is Twitter yeah this is this is all X he's on ice
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cream I don't know it's a it's a thing I think the Cyber truck is funny because we're actually working on something
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about this also but the Cyber truck is kind of weirdly already iconic despite not coming out yet yeah does that make sense that might be partially why it's iconic I think it's just that it doesn't look
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like anything else and it's so clear when something is inspired by the Cyber truck yeah yeah because nothing really
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looks like the Cyber truck on the road so when you do something with that like hard Edge geometric design it's like oh
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this is the Cyber truck of X yeah and that's that's sort of become iconic in the last like three years despite the
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truck not even being out well but I feel like part of the reason those things have gotten hype and become iconic is
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because we don't have the actual cyber truck so this is like dip your foot in the Cyber truck pool
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here's your here's your whistle here's your spoon here's your whatever that also kind of here's your caviar iPhone
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that kind of looks like a cyber truck and it's easy to make and anyone can make anything kind of look like it why
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is there no cyber truck harmonica yet actually like someone can do it pretty much the only thing that's hard to make shapes like a cyber truck is a truck is
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the actual truck that's actually true yeah you could make a cyber truck laptop like very easily and it would be pretty
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simple actually but the truck is tough we'll see it's supposed to come out soon we keep coming back to that we have our
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bets we have our our predictions but either way we have a lot more to talk about I will
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do our iPhone event Roundup after the break but of course before our break we should do some trivia
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[Music] trivia dude let's go all right so first question so believe it or not pole star has been around since 96. what a name oh
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oh we're getting this I don't even think about that originated I just had a moment yesterday where I was like you believe pole star is the name of a car company I never even
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thought about that I think it's a great no I'm not gonna finish that do you not like the name do you well I like the name but when you think about it you're
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like oh anyway it was previously called blank engineering sharing the name of what DC Superhero DC I hope I don't name a Marvel one accidentally if I were to
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get canceled over anything I would hope it's like a spreadsheet of all the DC Superheroes I have a hint but I don't think it'll help you poison ivy engineering
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it's uh DC's the Justice League one yeah right was that the one with pianos no it will be right back
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coming up next week and I always I don't know I don't lean too heavy into like predictions usually just because
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this will be useless in a week but it's kind of fun to look back and think what we were thinking before it happened see
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what we were thinking so let's go over what we're expecting and thinking about the upcoming iPhone 15 event that we all
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know now has been announced for September 12th uh we know we're expecting some things we have some maybe hot takes maybe about things that might happen or might not happen let's get
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into that stuff and we can speculate wildly because that's always fun that's always fun that is always fun let's start with the Baseline because this is
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an iPhone event it's going to be iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro right allegedly allegedly there are also some random people that were like there may be an ultra I have that in here we will talk
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about it okay well okay so the main things that we're expecting from the new iPhone 15. by the way I don't know I
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don't even know if we're expecting a 15 plus I guess probably probably probably 15 15
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plus 15 Pro 15 Pro Max I think they do everything for at least two years and then they see how it works out because
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they had the minions for two years true yeah so okay that'll be the second year of the plus uh USBC let's get expecting
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it I think that seems it's inevitable at this point we're not there's no consensus about like is it gonna be
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Thunderbolt speeds on the pro and regular USB 2.0 speeds on the regular phone I bet you that's gonna be the case
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and they're not going to mention it at the keynote that should be very apple-like yeah very apple or they'll
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talk about it on the pro and they just won't say that it's not right on the pro they'll mention that it's got even
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faster data speeds than ever before for transferring your prores video onto your Mac they just won't say anything about
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the 15. yeah yeah magic Port I'm interested to see how they just bring it up in general Mark German had like a
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good article about this on how like they are going to be announcing it they are going to obviously show it as a pro but
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like they're pretty reluctant about having to do this because like apple wants to seem seem powerful and that
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they're making their choices and their hand wasn't forced by but they're doing it here early a year early doesn't really make that
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much well that's what makes it that's what makes it seem like they're doing it on purpose okay because they did it
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right as the EU is forcing them to it would be like we have to do this yeah I mean I I still think it is we have to do
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this it is but yeah so I think positioning one is they've definitely been testing an iPhone with USB for many
00:24:02
many years and it was just a matter of when and two I actually don't think it's that hard for them to just
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call it better than lightning it's just better it'll just be friends and it'll be fun because we've always known like they've said USB is better than everything else in all their other devices but now that is coming to the
00:24:20
iPhone all the things that said about lightning previously no longer matter and that happens all the time with apple
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they just improve something and then suddenly it's like well didn't you say the last thing was great yeah well it's
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2023 so welcome to the new thing so I I think they'll just say it's faster data speeds it's faster charging and it's a
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new single cable for everything I would love it to be faster charging if it's 30 or 35 Watts that would be amazing
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um would that be amazing I mean that's amazing it'll be pretty deep the pixel is still 30 Watts that's not amazing either no it's true 100 Watts but we're not gonna get any super fast charging
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ports in the United States for a while like Samsung is 45 Watts but they have the like fake 45 Watts where it does it for like a microsecond and then it charges my like one minute faster in
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total yeah we've got isn't there a OnePlus phone in the US now that's oh yeah 65. I guess you're right there's a
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handful they're not popular but they're they're out there so when I hear amazing I would be like oh wow 65 Watts on the
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iPhone that's amazing yeah 100 Watts that's amazing but it's like right now we're dealing with like 12 to 22 Watts
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or whatever so yeah I'd be happy with 35 45 also quick trivia when did the first iPad Pro come out the first ever iPad
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Pro yeah God it's been a was where like six years of this iPad Pro aren't we let
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me I'm gonna guess 2016 2015 2015. that thing on USBC right didn't the first gen
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have USBC it did it started with USBC so it's like and I remember when the 12-inch MacBook came out and it just had
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like that single usb-c port on the side that's when I first started thinking like wow Apple's really all anything
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here they are at the end of their all-air I'm just well why you look that up I'm
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very interested to see what the crowd reaction is going to be like when it first gets announced is it gonna be like
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just a couple cheers is there going to be like actual enthusiastic cheers or is it going to be the most sarcastic
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Applause possible I think there's a big difference between the cheers at the event and the reactions of regular
00:26:22
people at home who is it that put in a slack that someone was like oh they're changing the charger again
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that sucks I think we talked a little bit like a lot of normies will probably none of us said that I want to make that
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clear they decided like one of us from like no we have like a family member someone like heard that maybe it would
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switch to USB and they're like really but I have a lightning cable now like that's the actual reaction from some
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people out in the world yeah where a lot of us are like well finally like everything else is USBC why not but um I
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think that's that's an easy segue to airpods quickly I want to fact check actually it was the 2018 iPad Pro that
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added the USBC Port uh but that was the first time they had the 11 inch and I bet that on stage when they announced
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that they were switching out to USB type-c they had all kinds of nice things to say about it oh yeah oh yeah they
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were like connecting it to a Sony um camera remember they were like the stuff Alpha camera you can instantly transfer your files really rapidly yeah and then most things never really did
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that people never don't really do people don't really do that I mean you don't put red footage on your iPad well you'll
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be able to go on your iPhone now people don't really connect accessories to phones like that I think that's about to
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change though once iPhone gets USBC we're gonna see all types of accessories I don't I mean I think we will see all
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types of accessories but we already have all types of lightning accessories yeah yeah but that's owned by Apple and it
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costs money for people to use lightning USBC will not cost money yes but I I think that just means the same
00:27:53
accessories we'll just have more options that are way cheaper I don't know if like many new types of accessories are
00:27:59
going to come out but all those ones that were done by bigger companies that could afford the
00:28:05
yeah the licensing aspect now there's just gonna be 10 000 more Amazon yeah red flag listings that we'll be doing the same thing with the non-licensed USBC the only lightning accessory that I
00:28:17
use on my iPhone is uh I just shot today with it it's a microphone that plugs into the lightning Port so it's a little
00:28:23
shotgun mic so I don't have to use the built-in iPhone mics and I just plug it in it just kind of works not with prores
00:28:30
Works terrible with prores really yeah it glitches out when I use prores video so I have to shoot non-pro as for it to
00:28:36
work but then I plug it in and it works that's the only lightning accessory I uh I think a power user of my phone ever
00:28:43
uses yeah and then I just like plug it in to charge it and that's it yeah so I don't know if we're gonna suddenly get
00:28:49
this revelation of like people plugging mice and keyboards and accessories into their phones I think it's just gonna be everything is the same charger now faster data speeds for transferring
00:29:01
whatever music and files and videos to your computer and that's it I think USBC iPhone accessories are gonna go crazy because I can't find an exact number for
00:29:14
this but it seems like uh the current lightning iPhone can only output in between half a watt and a full watt of power to any of its accessories
00:29:24
but really yeah like think of it this way like you ever try to use one of those phone fans
00:29:30
but yeah like it barely there is no power though but I don't think it's because I don't think the iPhone can really Supply any power but with a USBC
00:29:38
cord you know think of all the crazy power I'm trying to I'm having a hard time you could have and you can drain your phone 20 times as fast you can have an
00:29:50
active cooling block that you just put on your face when you're waiting for the subway and it's really hot
00:29:56
there we go get on weibo phone fridge I kind of just wanted to have reverse wireless charging this is my this is my
00:30:03
uh hotter take because I don't know if it'll happen this is just my thing that I would like to happen uh reverse
00:30:08
wireless charging on the iPhone to charge your airpods on the back that'd be cool and then the iPods case we get a
00:30:14
new airpods case with USB and it also has mag safe so it like locks in and just like aligns with the coils on the
00:30:20
back of the iPhone wait but the magsafe coils are the same polarity as the magsafe clothes on the iPhone
00:30:27
maybe there's uh some magic they can do to have both slop the polarity yeah wow wow maybe that'll be cool that's my hot take I would like them to make that happen please okay
00:30:39
yeah I mean I think that that was the the one good use of reverse wireless charging pretty much was charging
00:30:45
earbuds and smart watches so sort of smart watch well then the pixel watch will the pixel watch though the the way the band is on it it like hovers it way too high above it so you can't even yeah
00:30:58
I'm sorry that's a totally another topic but yes okay so USBC all right so titanium frame on the pro
00:31:06
iPhone instead of stainless steel yes would possibly be a little bit lighter neat you know I bet they did this it
00:31:13
cost them a little bit more but I bet you it makes it like harder for the phone to break so they don't have to
00:31:19
honor as many uh AppleCare subscriptions I mean that sounds like one of those things that's win-win for everyone yeah more premium material and it is ultimately cheaper for them if that is
00:31:30
the case yeah and then Apple sees what you just says and goes that'll be a hundred extra dollars please yeah they
00:31:36
they're the rumor is that they're upping the minimum storage to 256 finally um and there's been a a lot of
00:31:43
conversation on Twitter about whether or not they're actually raising the prices because it was always a hundred dollars
00:31:49
more for the extra storage but storage is is exponentially storage every year yeah and it's so cheap to have a 256
00:31:57
gigabyte dim now so that's been like that'd be like us saying like well the original iPhone started at four gigs so like technically technically three thousand dollars fun
00:32:08
back in the day yeah yeah no that's crazy all right new colors and by new colors I mean blue hues barely
00:32:17
yeah the the suspected colors for the I guess this is the pro iPhone yeah Pro yeah our space black silver Gray
00:32:30
and blue nice the gray is like a titanium color it's like a raw titanium oh kind of like
00:32:36
a dark silver you mean like a cyber truck color yeah like cyber truck like the other colors cyber truck iPhone
00:32:44
because I would like like a brighter color I was missing like bright interesting colored phones and someone when I tweeted that was like well you
00:32:50
just want matte black anyway yeah I know I do but it would be cool if you had like an option it's the principle I
00:32:57
think yeah and some people like the new blue and I say new blue but it really looks like the Pacific Blue from before but I don't know pretty reasonable
00:33:04
looking uh color rumors I don't see anything too exciting there this does not talk about the regular models though
00:33:10
the regular models I think there are like five colors usually like the one color that's off matches with the one
00:33:16
color that's off on the pros so are we assuming a blue like we had like the green the midnight
00:33:22
or whatever it was called Green Pro and then there was a green more normal color green regular phone and then it was blue
00:33:28
and blue so I'm assuming this is gonna be blue and blue again do you guys remember the Alpine green I love that it
00:33:34
was such a good color wait was that the pro one or the I liked both of them yeah was it the 11 yeah I think so I like the
00:33:43
Pacific Blue the most I think that was nice I liked Green better it's been a while since we had a red
00:33:51
yeah uh a couple other small action button action button would be nice I would be really happy with an action button knowing Apple it'll just be like a few
00:34:02
small things you can customize it to do someone's gonna make an app that makes it like run a series shortcut to like
00:34:09
take two seconds to launch a custom app but it'll still work but it's not really what we wanted uh thinner bezels all the
00:34:15
way around can I ask you a question before we switch from action button yeah yeah I saw a lot of people saying they're sad about the mute switch being
00:34:21
gone because it should be replacing yeah yeah the rumor yeah I've never had a phone that has a mute switch are you
00:34:27
guys going to miss it because oh yeah I do not see why that seems mute switch is clutch at all one plus that's the
00:34:33
greatest thing they ever did I don't know it's like a it's just a convenient I think of my question why in your first
00:34:39
thing to say is I don't know is a lot of great artists okay I'll give you the real reason it's because when the phone's in the pocket I can change it
00:34:45
and know what status it's in without looking but do you ever have your phone in now thank you thank you
00:34:52
vibrate to mute those are the two things wait but fiber is mute none so so on a OnePlus phone with had the alert slider yeah yeah it was uh volume on vibrate
00:35:04
music three and the middle is vibrate and if I could feel it in my pocket I would know it's on vibrate and I'd slide
00:35:10
it to me without looking but the iPhone only has two that one only has two so why am on volume off volume on or mute
00:35:15
slash vibrate yeah and it is that much quicker than going into the settings and doing it in the Quick Settings that's it
00:35:22
it is but I never turned my phone off of vibrate the only time my phone rings is
00:35:27
if I like somebody's coming to my house and I know I'm going to fall asleep on the couch and then that will wake me up or something like that when they're on their way my phone is not even on
00:35:37
vibrate ever since I got a smartwatch I don't think my phone's even been on vibrate for like over a year yeah this
00:35:43
is probably something that Apple knows is true about most people's phones and that's why they feel comfortable we're past ringing yeah I'm done with apple
00:35:50
should get rid of the ringtones said this I'm stealing it from them but like you must have terrible ringtones because
00:35:56
like dude do you ring I let that go baby if it's the Samsung orchestral mix I will use it oh no yeah the only one I like is the Asus notification that sounds like under the seat it's it's
00:36:10
definitely yeah you only have to hear the first four notes and you're like this is definitely
00:36:16
it's the only thing that's like uh um okay the only time I ever turn my phone off of vibrate slash mute is when I take the case off and accidentally
00:36:31
switches it on so it happens every time so now you'll just accidentally hit the action button instead uh yeah okay but I
00:36:39
have a theory um I think that you know Apple's been trying to get rid of hard switches for a
00:36:44
very long time there's always been all these rumors that there were rumors last year I think that they were going to get rid of the hard power button and replace
00:36:51
it with like uh the same as the MacBook the haptic trackpad thing um and then they didn't but they do want to get rid of these hard switches because it erases points of failure I
00:37:02
would bet you that they've been like weighing getting rid of the music it for a while but it's too iconic on the
00:37:09
iPhone it's like a two iconic Park as Android phones in general don't have it and now they're like wait we can we can
00:37:17
do two things at once because we can switch this to a haptic button that is probably the action button is a haptic button we can switch it to a haptic button and we can make it more useful
00:37:28
it's just like the dynamic Island right it's like okay we're cutting out a part of the screen but we're adding utility
00:37:34
to it so it's like the same thing they're getting rid of a physical switch switching it to the haptic but they're
00:37:40
like also making it more useful do you think that's also partially like hey this is a new button you're going to use a lot get used to this haptic button
00:37:47
look for other buttons to turn I also like that you you would use it way more than the mute switch like which is cool
00:37:52
because if if it's contextually aware and you can like press it when you're in certain apps or when you're at certain
00:37:58
GPS locations like if you're at the track and you can just press it and it starts a thing that'd be useful that's a
00:38:04
way to not androidish there's no there's no way they're gonna let it be contextually so the action button on the
00:38:11
Apple watch is just a little bit contextually away it's not enough with shorts a little bit
00:38:16
so if I press the action button I can make that either start a workout or I can have that open the workout menu so when I press it right now it goes uh I'm
00:38:27
going to open the beginning of a workout now that it's open when I press it again it's to start and stop the workout but
00:38:34
isn't that just for certain workouts too like running or something like Track Running and stuff right but like if you do that at two o'clock in the morning
00:38:40
it's still going to start a workout it's not going to know that you're trying to like silence your alarm yeah uh I think
00:38:45
when I was at a track recently it asked me if I wanted to use it to count laps or if it I don't think it was the button
00:38:51
automatically I think it knew you were at the track yeah I knew I was at the track wow that's dope yeah I didn't think it could do that Apple the Apple
00:38:57
shortcuts assuming they let you plug that in with uh this new action button it's like really good at running checks
00:39:04
for context like I have a go button that I made on my phone where I just hit go and then it goes is Ellis here is he
00:39:10
here is he at work is he at home and then depending on where I am it'll be like oh he probably wants to go here but
00:39:16
how long did it take you to set that up how long did it take me to set up or how long is it between push button and I get
00:39:21
directions both Google Maps Google Maps um well isn't that Google Maps telling where you are though and where you probably want to go because like my ways in my Google Maps when I'm at home the first suggestion it
00:39:34
shows is work and whatever work the first thing it shows is home yeah no because it's all being done in apple
00:39:41
shortcuts like apple shortcuts is first querying it's GPS and getting like figuring out where I am and then once it
00:39:49
knows random then it knows exactly where to ask Google Maps to route me to I mean serious shortcuts can be useful but I'm
00:39:54
guessing there's a nice little Delay from when you press the button and when it actually finishes it's like you push
00:40:00
the button you like go order your last beer clear tab come back and still go in yeah dude oh no my point was that it's too complicated and it's too like the
00:40:12
delay is too much like apple is not gonna let people do that if I had to guess I would guess that it would be
00:40:18
limited to a very small number of things you can customize it for just like the action button on watch yeah I think
00:40:24
you're right I think you're right I don't think this is the case but let's speculate chances it's an accent color
00:40:32
no I wanted to be there the accent button looks so good on the Apple watch Ultra
00:40:37
if it was orange that'd be sick it would be so good like when it was the color of the phone what if they just did the like
00:40:44
the gray or titanium looking one the the like silver is it silver the gray one that you said it is metal orange underneath on that switch if it was the gray with the Orange switch that would
00:40:57
look sick yeah apple really likes having one key way of knowing that you have the new phone one key visual
00:41:10
when I see Dynamic Island I know that's the iPhone 14. that's a great point when the iPhone 10 came out it was a notch
00:41:16
when the 11 came out it was a new color when the 12 came out it was this one there's always something Square
00:41:21
and I think that could be the thing yeah you know what's crazy I just also want to note that like
00:41:26
we we're like we're six days away from this and we still have no idea what it looks like there is where they're like dummy phones I saw this morning with the action buttons on it I believe so and I
00:41:40
think it's just normal oh sorry I thought those were just they're just dummy models so it doesn't that's
00:41:46
some guy made right yeah you're not like yeah probably the sunny Dixon whereas like whatever on Google on the pixel
00:41:52
eight we already know exactly where the temperature sensor is like a full 360 high resolution like model of the phone yeah you guys haven't seen the pixel 9
00:42:03
yet I just unboxed it yeah yeah I know so okay I think action button could be cool that could be very nice yeah thinner bezel is a small detail Wi-Fi 6E is a small detail two
00:42:14
extra gigs of RAM is a small detail maybe a little bit more of a periscope lens maybe like 5x 5x instead of a 3X
00:42:21
something we didn't write down here um I lost my train of thought I'm sorry Ultra continue oh I have the ultra stuff it's important I thought I wrote down
00:42:33
here well why you think does that have to come before the Ultra part no go for it
00:42:39
do you wanna okay I'll just say it yeah we mentioned before the ultra yeah whenever I see Ultra I just think of remember the pixel that was such a fun
00:42:51
debacle but I thought it was 100 gonna happen is this a so is this a rumor iPhone 15 Ultra is that a so from what I understand some retailers like put iPhone 15 Pro and then they had a
00:43:03
separate listing for Ultra oh I remember now what I was gonna say okay okay yes the rumor also is that the screen sizes
00:43:10
are gonna be um two millimeters bigger on uh so it's gonna go from 6.7 to 6.9 inches
00:43:18
and 6.1 to 6.3 inches is that because of the thinner bezels or is that would that
00:43:24
make up enough space I don't know I am yeah it might be because it's probably at least partially due to the thinner
00:43:29
bezels I would hope I mean in an ideal world that's the same size footprint and then just like even smaller bezels yeah
00:43:35
I don't know the point too is like but they'd have to be like a millimeter smaller on each Corner yeah it could be quite a bit okay but I don't know that'd
00:43:42
be interesting anyway back to the ultra thing wow um it probably won't happen so please don't assume this is gonna happen we're
00:43:49
just having fun here let us talk about it but at first when I read about it it says it just seemed like this pixel or
00:43:55
oh my goodness just seems like this iPhone 15 Ultra was just like the maximum spec version of the pro Max
00:44:02
because it's two terabytes eight gigs of RAM but then the rumor the sketchy rumor
00:44:08
also said better camera features I don't know what that means I don't know man that's really funny because do you
00:44:14
remember when prores video came to the iPhone Pro and you could only get it on the higher storage iPhone remember that
00:44:21
oh yeah they did not they didn't allow it on the base one the base iPhone 14 pro didn't have enough storage and they
00:44:26
were like yeah that's not going to get Pro we're gonna fill up your storage in like three seconds of prose video yeah so I could see there being a better
00:44:33
camera feature on a higher storage iPhone I better make it an ultra though I mean a better camera feature could be
00:44:39
so much it could be actual better cameras it could be some random setting in the camera thing that's only available on the ultra for whatever reason okay give me some insane 8K prores Dynamic
00:44:52
Pro Dynamic Pro you've got the 48 megapixels now Apple what's holding you back it would take three hours but now only takes one yeah yeah um okay well that's you know that's iPhone stuff I think
00:45:13
we're also expecting a new Apple watch Ultra Ultra don't think the the rumors are that crazy about those I think it's just like new chip new so the new tip
00:45:26
though is fairly important because they kept naming the new s like S7 S8 chips new generations but they were basically the same chip maybe like one more core or something
00:45:38
really different but the new one is supposed to be significantly faster okay so and it's all I believe it's a node
00:45:45
shrink because I think the other Apple I think the other iPhone rumor is that it's shrinking to three nanometer am I
00:45:53
correct oh honestly I would like if it's better if it's a more efficient chip I would want
00:46:00
I almost don't mind if the performance stays the same and it's just more battery yeah totally that's basically what
00:46:06
because yeah because the Apple watches like don't really lag yeah they're fine it's 60 FPS it's it's a watch like it
00:46:12
doesn't do that much crazy stuff so just like give me plus 30 battery okay the iPhone 15 Pros a17 bionic is likely
00:46:19
going to be Apple's first three no nanometer chips so if they can use like a cut down version of that chip for the
00:46:24
Apple watch it should have better battery life and the regular Apple watch and the and the new Ultra having better
00:46:31
battery life is like just what people want that's pretty much all I want yeah yeah so new airpods USBC
00:46:38
airpods USBC do you think that's the only change probably so I think so I'm talking about
00:46:43
changes in better transparency mode or something just to also throw in there maybe reverse wireless charging Apple
00:46:49
come on you can do it I know you can do it apparently the airpods max are not going to get refreshed until end of 2024
00:46:55
or beginning of 2025. oh my God which is like they'll be the only thing to still have
00:47:01
a lightning port yeah it'll be the only well not exactly they still sell the magic keyboard
00:47:08
I forgot about that stuff like that you're right but yeah it's so frustrating whenever I need to plug it
00:47:14
in at my desk yeah most things I want to travel with though it would be really nice to have one cable everywhere and it
00:47:20
would be really awkward if they say you could have one cable for everything but then the airpods max are still lightning
00:47:25
I didn't even think about that though we made the joke before about how the iPhone USBC and airpods USBC are finally
00:47:31
like finished they went all in but there are still things out there that are it's probably because they're accessories and
00:47:37
I think that the EU law said phones and and headphones and earbuds or something but I don't think they said anything about accessories yeah why why are they still lightning uh
00:47:50
well we've talked for a while about these new Apple things is there anything else we want to any other hot takes or crazy expectations well let's do some
00:47:56
predictions is there anything we can think that uh okay Alice just jumped right some things before before you we wanted to make this a little fun because next week we're going to be doing the Pod
00:48:07
from Apple campus yeah from like right after the event from like we're doing it on the stage yeah right after we're gonna do it in Tim Cook's lap
00:48:20
no so Adam and I thought it'd be fun we want to take up the whole you know next week thing but we are going to let
00:48:27
everyone predict we're gonna make some predictions about the event next week and depending on how correct you are
00:48:33
we'll uh award some trivia points while we're at Apple campus Okay cool so I want to meet I want I want to make the most definitely correct prediction I possibly can
00:48:45
that's my incentive there's an iPhone yeah I predict if you predict that we can take it away and you will not get your bonus point oh okay it's got to be somewhat crazy predict something we
00:48:56
actually it are the rules we wrote yesterday during our meeting we wrote If we don't like the predictions then you just don't get to make one
00:49:03
the event will be helpful we'll find out if this is in the episode or not later this Friday so I want to go not to he's not too safe
00:49:10
but not too crazy okay okay I have one I'm ready let's hear it I'm ready to write it down mine is that USBC is the most important change
00:49:23
on the airpods all other changes will be minor compared to the New Port there might be a new
00:49:29
audio mode or some new updated sample rate or some I would argue a new audio mode is more important than USBC for
00:49:35
there because it depends on what that new audio mode is yeah I think but the audio mode sounds but isn't that subjective not like a bit not like not like a totally new audio mode I just
00:49:47
think we have like transparency mode noise cancellation mode and then adaptive transparency in the middle it'll just be that again so yeah I think
00:49:55
there's a new one on top of that that's the same feature okay I agree what could make you wrong if there's a feature more
00:50:02
interesting or important than USBC added to the airpods how much of a design change can it go through none it won't
00:50:09
go zero it won't go through it no design change is more important if a design change happens that's more important
00:50:15
than USBC gives you one millimeter shorter that's not a design okay that's my prediction like new drivers okay new drivers is more important if Alex gets if Alex gets excited by it
00:50:27
yeah yeah like it's a big change uh okay interesting interesting wait so then we say yes or no on that next week yes we're now yeah I agree I think it'll be
00:50:40
the biggest yeah yeah the main thing they're going to talk about first I agree okay all right Andrew what you got oh oh I was gonna give it to David oh oh
00:50:47
David you do it too okay David David okay um my prediction is that they all have a
00:50:54
USBC but only the pro gets Thunderbolt I agree um oh man I'm pretty sure like a few weeks ago YouTube both said they would be the same and I was the one who said
00:51:07
like no I think they're going to be kind of different and we talked about lightning was that lightning versus USBC okay and I said that would be funny I
00:51:13
think if I think they're all gonna have USBC and it's all gonna be the same so you just disagree you don't have to
00:51:18
disagree yeah you guys like different permutation yes I just disagree you think oh I can only disagree so anything that happens yeah I win yeah the odds
00:51:27
are in my favor here I think yeah yes I I think personally I just think they're all going to be the same type of USBC
00:51:32
they'd probably have to Brand it as a person I agree with you probably I still feel like Dynamic Port
00:51:40
um just so just wanna have that right uh David and Mark has you both think that we're gonna have lightning Thunderbolt Pro and uh us regular USBC yeah okay and
00:51:53
Andrew I disagree all right very good very good it's in the book okay risky so I don't
00:51:59
think that there's going to be a power third accent uh or an accent colored what is it called action button thank you but maybe they make a case with an
00:52:10
accent colored action button their cases will have um hold up hold up so you're saying not only will the iPhone iPhone it has an
00:52:23
action button that's the same color as everything else yeah I wish it was this is like two predictions in one no uh
00:52:31
same color like what but the case will have okay a colored action you're going all in on action button existing well I liked the I thought about it before when Marquez said that like they want to have
00:52:42
something that shows off it's the new phone and the action button seems to be that on a case they probably think most
00:52:49
people are gonna put a case on why not make that button an accent button accent color thank you I am just action accent I get it um
00:53:02
I'm disagreeing yeah I disagree I guess how many cases need to have that for that to be right
00:53:08
only one only one wait all you're saying is that there will be an action button on the phone and apple will make at least one case with a colored action button well and the the action button
00:53:20
cannot be an accent color like in its original I don't think that's gonna happen I just want that you don't think
00:53:27
it'll have any accent color no because the mute switch does have a little bit of an accident yeah it's like inside though to show if it's on or off though
00:53:34
like I think that serves a purpose not for a fun design I like that we're this intensely about the most mundane aspect of it possible
00:53:45
but it is I'm going based on the past which is Apple has never had a multi-color case
00:53:51
so they won't sounds like it's time to start I'm playing my odds this is really difficult I thought it was a pretty crappy prediction but how much turmoil has put David in means it's got to have
00:54:02
some sort of validity to it in some ways I feel like they were will like minorly
00:54:08
change the color of the accent button like it'll be a slightly different color of gray I like how I've confused David
00:54:14
with the name of the button at this point now too wait did I say accent okay well I don't know I mean if if that button like has functionality you need
00:54:25
to be more careful about when you press it so I feel like adding a slightly it's a good point color makes sense it's a
00:54:31
good point when they put Siri behind the power button nobody nobody even blinked well yeah but no one cares about Siri
00:54:36
someone changes the color of the action button and everyone loses their minds um I don't know it's gracious golly gum
00:54:43
drops I'm I'm really wondering right now I just would it would be so sick if there was an iPhone that matched the
00:54:49
Apple watch Ultra because I think the orange accent button it would be action button it's too bad they're not gonna do
00:54:55
it the orange accent action button it's I don't know dude I'm gonna say to be fair your best bet is to just disagree with me because there's a lot of options in there so you should just I'm running
00:55:07
through like 37 different permutations I'm gonna disagree and just I'm just gonna disagree all right it's important
00:55:13
for that reason um let's find out who got the points next week I'm sticking with my
00:55:18
prediction from last week someone's gonna mention Among Us someone at some point during this
00:55:25
practice either visually or with words I hope there's an emotions disagree so am I hearing three no's
00:55:33
among us correct no they mention it or it's just shown in the it's either mentioned by an executive on stage or it is visually
00:55:43
this is the difference this is does that count when just the big tile of all the apps are up and Among Us is one of those
00:55:49
apps I'll count that yeah I agree I'm out too easy for that reason I'm out I'm out real okay I think that's a better I guarantee I bet you Among Us
00:56:01
is somewhere in that keynote that's what that's the bet yeah yeah it doesn't have to be mentions it just has to be shown
00:56:07
once and uh I don't think this is the official prediction but I really do think deep down in my heart we're
00:56:13
getting a wireless iPhone I think that's how they're gonna a portless portless iPhone I think that's theirs I love it
00:56:19
it's the only way they can deliver they can they can like give lightning a true like Viking funeral like like like phase it out with a vengeance I just want to clarify because this may
00:56:31
have been off camera Ellis thinks there's going to be a portless regular iPhone and a USBC Pro yeah that may or
00:56:39
may not be Thunderbolt that may or may not be thunderbol I would say the way I think about it is Apple every time they
00:56:44
make a change especially to the iPhone their Flagship product always tends to think about it in like 10 years down the road every change they make is
00:56:55
in a direction that will continue for 10 years and so if they do this Fork now of
00:57:01
no port in the base iPhone and USBC in the Pro iPhone that would suggest that USBC is better than no port for the next 10 years but I think we all know Apple
00:57:13
wants no Port period period so if they're going to go no port at some point they need to align in we have
00:57:21
a port until we don't have a port so the only way one phone doesn't have a port before the other is if it's the highest
00:57:28
end iPhone that's the way I think I do I do kind of agree I like I agree with I feel like
00:57:33
the no Port feels like the premium version so it feels weird to have it in the bottom but if it does make sense to
00:57:39
have C and thunder and imagine the means of like you have to pay 100 bucks extra for a port that's too easy to make fun
00:57:46
of dude sometimes Apple like makes stuff that's like ah it's a little easy to make fun of that's too easy the funny
00:57:52
thing is like it feels more premium to to be Wireless only except for the fact that I don't want that yeah exactly
00:57:58
right right like I don't want that at all you're in the pro market yeah but I don't want that but what if that one has
00:58:04
like extra fast wireless charging and a bunch of other things that the non-pro one doesn't have then you're like well I want the pro one so I guess I'll deal
00:58:10
with no port and then everyone's getting the pro one and dealing with no port and then soon you just get used to not having a party
00:58:16
it is hard because I have wirelessly charged almost all of my phones like almost exclusively for a quite long time
00:58:23
at this point okay I have a prediction predict me he's back my prediction is this entire segment will be 30 minutes
00:58:30
shorter this bit went on too long no this is what the people want we'll do it live
00:58:37
yeah why don't you guys do a live podcast but we only have one thing after the break so maybe we can just include all of that that's true as long as we end now
00:58:50
yeah what's the next trivia question please be something I can get right uh it's about titanium that's right
00:58:56
because that seems to be something we can all agree on I love titanium um specifically there's been a titanium
00:59:03
phone before several in fact but the first one was made by Erickson when did it come out how about no
00:59:16
get a year buffer so if you guessed 20 years 2 000 you get 99 2000 2001. okay I like it too yeah
00:59:27
there's a little hint you know baked into the question because I specifically said Ericsson and
00:59:34
not so many Ericsson yeah because I know when they emerged luckily for me my two favorite things are titanium and Sony
00:59:47
titanium Sony and Erickson what about bio hold me back it's after the pegatron thank you support for waveform comes from netsuite so it's hard to make a good decision
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01:01:14
everybody uh last segment of the Pod a little short one pixel pass rip add it to the Google
01:01:21
graveyard what is dead if you didn't yeah it's coming yeah if you didn't know what pixelpass was uh came out with the pixel 6. it was sort of like this subscription
01:01:32
service that you would buy with your phone and I think you could add it later it's a similar thing to AppleCare but it
01:01:41
also adds a bunch of other services so it would get you um insurance coverage for your phone
01:01:46
that was the Apple Care part it also gave you YouTube music YouTube premium 200 gigabytes of cloud storage and
01:01:52
Google Play pass which gives you like points for when you buy things on Google play
01:01:59
um and they're getting rid of it well hold on but the funniest part about what they're getting rid of is that this is
01:02:05
in 2021 we are 22 months away from when this was announced and one of the main selling
01:02:11
points was that this was also kind of financing your phone so it was 45 a month for the pixel 6 or 55 a month for
01:02:17
the pixel 6 Pro right so at the end of those two years you had paid off your phone and it hasn't been to you a new
01:02:24
pixel phone upgrade every two years was one of the selling points oh my pixel pass so now we are two months away from
01:02:32
the upgrade that you would be getting from Pixel pass yeah so not one single person who bought pixels gets to upgrade
01:02:38
is it officially dead or is this a rumor it officially does it's gone they definitely had like a to-do list item
01:02:44
when they were like we need to kill pixel pass before bro I smell a class action lawsuit it's it's so that was one
01:02:51
of the reasons that you would buy this yeah it I think it'll probably it'll be hard to do that because technically what
01:02:57
it's saying like you would come up on the two years and then you would be continuing to pay that money so it
01:03:04
wouldn't make sense your phone's paid off right now you're paying too much for all these extra things so getting the
01:03:10
new phone and restarting your payment plan kind of is what the upgrade is it wasn't like you get a free phone it's
01:03:17
not a free phone but it's you would just continue your payments and then that would be getting all of the things plus
01:03:23
the payment pin it's kind of like what carriers do now with like you're paying your phone off every two years okay I
01:03:29
still so it's not faster it's certainly like Google you want people to trust you
01:03:37
like the pixel 6 is this big Hardware change like Hey we're in this for the long run look at us trust us bro like
01:03:44
we're here get this because you're gonna keep wanting pixel upgrades Google had such a pristine reputation before it the fact that they killed this two months right before like one like when I have a
01:03:55
screenshot here it says it's a new way to own a phone here's what's included and the first thing it says is the
01:04:00
latest pixel a new pixel phone with upgrades every two years and you kill it off 22 months later wow that's hilarious
01:04:08
that's pretty rare and horrible because it's the one who is very excited right because it's financing okay so you're basically financing the phone and then
01:04:14
you also get all the other stuff and it costs you 45 to 50 yeah okay so 45 35 bucks a month like you've paid well over a thousand dollars by the end of the two years so you just keep paying that keep paying that and then every two years you
01:04:26
get a new phone and they don't pay this is very popular in the US a lot of carriers subsidize things like this too but you don't pay the full thousand
01:04:33
dollars with a new phone you just keep paying 55 bucks a month or however many dollars per month that phone is and there's your new phone and you just pay
01:04:39
until you've more than paid off the value of the phone you just keep going and going and going and every two years you get a new phone and this one didn't
01:04:46
make it two years wow I'm sorry that's crazy there's something about like this like getting axed a few months ago but
01:04:54
like they really pushed this to the brim there were people probably on this like I'm so excited for my pixely look the
01:05:01
leaks keep coming out I know what it looks like already two months I'm just gonna keep paying the subscription I'm
01:05:06
used to and I'm gonna have it I've got a high-res render of it on my phone so just look at it every day so apparently
01:05:12
they didn't even offer it with the pixel fold so everyone thought they just weren't
01:05:18
offering it with pixel fold but that was their way of saying it's dead it is funny because I could see it not being
01:05:24
offered as the pixel fold because the prices are found yeah the price is based off of the price of the phone and the
01:05:30
six and six Pro are so close to each other it's only a ten dollar per month difference but the fold would be so much so they're probably like oh you know
01:05:37
maybe it's too much of a difference for that wait look at this so there's an FAQ as to why they're getting rid of it
01:05:44
um the question is why is pixel pass being discontinued the answer is we offer the best value of our Hardware
01:05:50
products and give users the flexibility to purchase their favorite Services we continue to elevate offers based on
01:05:56
custom evaluate offers based on customer feedback and provide different ways for them to access the best of Google that's
01:06:01
not an answer and it's their own FAQ yeah it's not even them like answering someone's question in the crowd it's
01:06:07
like their own FAQ yeah that's like when someone says why didn't you do this you just go I'm doing the best I can over
01:06:13
here yeah and you just don't we love our customers yeah yeah nicely done nicely done barred but yeah I don't know it feels pretty brutal wow that's pretty
01:06:24
brutal I feel like if Apple did this there would be a crazy uproar like if Apple two years ago had made this part
01:06:30
of apple one and it was like you get a phone every two years and then two months before said never mind this would
01:06:36
be like everywhere I will argue on scale the Uproar is the same but Apple's skill
01:06:41
is just way bigger the pixel scale just unfortunately is not that big they're also honoring all two-year terms on
01:06:48
anyone that bought pixel pass in the last two years so if you bought it with the pixel 7 you'll still have it for
01:06:53
another year and they're also giving everyone who ever bought pixel pass a 100 coupon which can be used towards a
01:06:59
pixel device purchase on Google fi only nice cool cool cool cool um I mean okay well so yeah you get to keep your YouTube premium and music and
01:07:12
your insurance pretty much for it if you buy it if you bought it until you're two years ago yeah but you don't get that
01:07:18
upgrade which again the first marketing point when this originally came out was the upgrade apparently a lot of people
01:07:24
are mad because do you remember when they um Google play music had like an early
01:07:30
adopter price that was seven dollars a month and it was going to be seven dollars a month for life and then they
01:07:37
upped the price later and then they got rid of Google Play music but went to YouTube music but the people who had
01:07:43
Google play music got to keep the price so apparently a lot of people are mad because they were like wait pixel pass
01:07:49
is a better deal for me and then now they're getting rid of it they don't have the the grandfather the grandfather
01:07:54
price anymore woof woof anyway semantics the moral of the story here is when Google introduces something don't depend on an existing for a long
01:08:06
time yeah which is depressing generally A good rule because there's a only there's a
01:08:11
few things that they offer that is like the best in the industry like Google Drive I should say don't mention any of
01:08:17
them out loud oh and then oh maybe they will yeah a friend of mine who works at Google told me that if it doesn't make a billion dollars they will kill it even if it's net positive that sounds exactly
01:08:30
right yeah which is why we only just have like Gmail YouTube and Google search that's basically and The Bard is
01:08:37
like everything else is on The Cutting Board is really really that's a good point like basically everything else is
01:08:43
like they could cut that tomorrow and I would not be surprised man yeah all right well it's been a chaotic ride let's finish it up with the trivia
01:08:50
answers [Music] wait time out was that your record that was actually the sound board yeah
01:09:03
shout out to Howie Adderley who tweeted at us and made a website where you can play along with trivia and Marquez has not seen this yet so Marquez
01:09:15
if you will click the link and click on the link I'm clicking the link where'd you put it he literally went through and
01:09:22
tracked like every trivia question well and then and it looks amazing it's really good yeah it looks so good wow
01:09:29
look at those what is the website called again wvfrm trivia.com that's amazing and it's not only play along you can go back and play essentially every single question that's ever been asked I did it
01:09:40
and uh I got so many of my own questions wrong I I was so embarrassed this must be how you guys feel ended their
01:09:46
multiple choice and you got them wrong yeah so they were easier for you yeah because once you made money and it has
01:09:52
player stats in different categories wow it does and he has guest scores they had
01:09:58
to go through and like trivia's changed a couple times so like we used to play it where one person one person got
01:10:05
posted the question whoever was losing at that point and if they got it wrong then the next person got to steal so
01:10:10
some of these are I think they even wrote what we answered for specific things yeah if you go to game log on the
01:10:17
side it will show every single question show what the answer is show it the person oh yes smokes this is my favorite
01:10:24
part of this is in the top right corner you can switch to Darkness I love that oh I love that archez's top category is
01:10:31
Otto Michael category is science and Andrew's top category is other my top category is getting them wrong they made a gold silver and bronze wafer
01:10:43
this is so sick like what I learned is I am not even close to 50 accuracy on trivia 41.2 it's not that bad yeah I would like to know I it's not that far
01:10:54
away there's top guests on the side Dan Seifer is in here getting four out of six questions right and just knowing that the only questions he answered were about G fuel is fantastic
01:11:06
yeah he has a 66 G fuel rating and this stays updated I would love to get up to 50 accuracy that's what I'm gonna do dude and he put links to our YouTube X
01:11:17
Spotify Apple music and merch stores can we request these changes it to Twitter even though it even though it sucks can
01:11:25
you just make it Twitter instead this guy is truly amazing yeah so let's get up to 50 time for trivia so
01:11:35
first question I'm getting them wrong believe it or not pollstar has been around since 96. oh
01:11:41
yeah it was blank engineering sharing the same name of what DC's superhero sharing the name like exact name or based off of the name no exact name
01:11:58
I will give you a last second hint well I already wrote down Barry Allen [Music] don't know the listeners are screaming
01:12:12
at you wrong too late nope flip it oh frick me what'd you guys say Wayne Wayne engineering Bruce Wayne good guess oh I wrote
01:12:25
Cyclops is that um that's Marvel that's Marvel X-Men yeah that's real oh surreal Robin
01:12:35
it's flash uh what's the point okay anyway on the last second and if I can't even change it wasn't the last second man you had like three seconds you said I'll give you a
01:12:47
okay whatever it's okay you're right you shouldn't have even given oh that was X-Men I thought he looked kind of like
01:12:53
Superman who's DC so I thought maybe X-Men only officially became Marvel fairly recently though right that's what I was X-Men has always been Marvel the movie rights were
01:13:05
owned by other companies please don't cancel me okay next question before David gets canceled okay next question
01:13:12
first titanium phone it was an Ericsson specifically it was the Ericsson r320 Titan limited edition what year did it come out we're doing the one year buffer
01:13:23
on either side oh the hint is it wasn't the Year One actually was it a smartphone or a dumb
01:13:34
phone my percentage is plummeted all right let's see that do you think it's it's
01:13:39
fair I think it's fair it doesn't help me know what year dumb phone that's right I knew it
01:13:46
okay I'm just gonna stick with what I said because it's wrong so fun fact Erickson
01:13:52
actually put out its first phone in the late 1800s so it could be any year between this and now but it's not wait let's read the board did they create
01:14:03
they didn't create but they were way early to the game yeah 1800s it was the Bell thing right Alexander
01:14:13
Alexander gring Bell we could talk about this stuff Let's uh I wrote I just guessed 2009 2009 no Arrow 2008 nope 2005. uh it was 2
01:14:25
000 so good so gosh closest I almost put that but I was like no that was my example I know when he said that I was
01:14:32
like wow so like if it's two thousand so so closest right sure wait what what wait no yeah you almost got me I knew those were in the rolls I just
01:14:45
had all of them all of our percentages have now I feel like you do as a joke and then he agreed and you were like oh
01:14:51
wait no this might work curious exactly what happened well that's that's gonna do it for this week thanks for watching
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