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they are releasing a new series X refresh which is cylindrical and looks like a router exactly like a router yeah oh actually kind of yeah that's my air purifier yeah
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wait it's not a box it's not a box I know it's not an Xbox I don't even think of that
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you can't call it that that name's taken call it that YouTube Red baby [Laughter] foreign
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people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm Marquez I'm Andrew
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and I'm David this week we've got some Banger new features in Microsoft Paint nice huge okay it's been so the whole episode that's
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all we're talking and that's it that's all we're talking about 37 years Dolly three is also out in the wild uh we had
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an Amazon event this week with a bunch of new products there's also a whole mess of Xbox leaks but first we should
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just get to uh some apple updates because there's some new stuff the uh cats out the bag we are testing the new
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stuff now some people have published their reviews already ours are still in the works by the time this episode comes out but it's true I've been testing the
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iPhone 15 Pro for about by the time you hear this about a week almost a week and
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a half two weeks now um almost two a week and a half I think yeah because it was uh the beginning of
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last week and now oh it's all yes by the time it comes by the time this comes out it's a week and a half it was Wednesday yeah
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yeah it's Wednesday anyway so that's a long week Apple Watch series nine I'm wearing the pink one for you video listeners you can video viewers you can see it for your audio listeners I'll
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just tell you I'm wearing a pink watch right now sick band it's going well yeah I've got the the recycle band the Nike what do
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they call that the Nike sport band sport band yeah and it's as we mentioned last time made up of a bunch of flecks of a
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bunch of old recycled sport bands uh which is pretty cool so no two are like they're all unique I just I'm not over
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the fact that it's a completely carbon neutral product and I I know we talked about this last
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time but I just want to stress that's the entire life cycle of the product so emissions electricity energy materials construction
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packaging shipping and then all of the electricity used during a lifetime of the ownership of the device all of it is
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what they're claiming as carbon neutral I need to know how they're doing this that's so much it's got to be mostly
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credits right well there are some things that are genuinely easier like instead of using a
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new aluminum they can use recycled aluminum and there's a bunch of pieces that they showed me from the housing of the vibration motor to the the outside
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of this thing the buttons it's all like recycled aluminum that'll make sense but then it's just like how do you control
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all the trucks that it gets delivered on how do you control all of the Apple stores that you sell it in they keep the lights on 24 7. like how do you control
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the the grid that I'm plugging my wall brick into that I'm getting electricity from when I charge it there's it's an enormous complex puzzle to like guarantee that
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it's a carbon neutral product for everyone yeah it's crazy it's funny because you can't create energy right so
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the idea that if you're charging the device through the life cycle of the product it's like apple couldn't create
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energy out of nothing yeah but they have some sort of credit that they're counting it against
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um and they had a very funny note too where they were like we managed to fit 25 more Apple watches on each shipment
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to each Apple store which me which means we're using less emissions and like that's true that's great they're also
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just reducing shipping costs smaller yeah it's still too big yeah I looked at it
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it could be half the size of what it is already 100 right yeah but either way we're we're testing them I have some
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early thoughts on the iPhone 14 and I'm sorry 15 and 15 Pros you can tell yeah it's a lot of changes they are very similar to the previous phones the main updates being USBC I did have a moment
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so I am currently test driving a car for autofocus and I'm going to shoot that entire video on the iPhone 15 but it's a
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Pulstar 2 and the Pulstar 2 has a little uh when it got dropped off it has a little Cable in it it's a little wired
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carplay connector because this car has carplay oh no and I had that moment where I went to plug in the lightning
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cable into the iPhone and it didn't work and I was confused for a second then I was like oh right is it hardwired in no
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it's I can unplug it but I needed my own usb-c cable okay so already in the car when I dropped it off was the last guy
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had a USBC to lightning cable you just left it there and I want to go plug in the iPhone and it didn't work and I was like ah yeah I need more USBC the amount
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of people that are about to be really confused when they at they bought the new phone they ask their friend if they can borrow their charger and it doesn't
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work and they just don't know why because it's about to be very high I know right like it's gonna happen
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a non-zero amount of people are gonna think that something's wrong I can finally help my Apple friends that's
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true true look at that people who come over and say do you have a charger remember how we were crashing on the
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adapter though mostly because it's thirty dollars but there is an endless amount of like
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Ubers with lightning cables sticking out of them and like accessories with lightning cables there the lighting
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cables are everywhere and so kind of like we do with 30 pin to lightning we're gonna have to go through a bit of
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a reckoning again with all right there's a wave of new iPhones out there and none of them can use this port yeah
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so we better make sure we have USB type-c I guess they already hopefully also have USB type c maybe but like
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there's a lot of lightning cables out in the world at least 30 pin only existed for the first iPhone and the 3G and the
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3Gs and then they switched to lightning on the four right is that right I think so so like not that was only like three
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models yeah this has been many four had no yeah I'm confident now I remember seeing it yeah it fits the the silhouette maybe 4S
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or five as the resident expert of the iPhone 4 from trivia you're probably right
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yourself but that's but it's not a decade though you're right so like one two three and four versus
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four to fourteen that's a that's a lot of lightning cables the 4S switched to lightning so somewhere in there no no
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okay was it the five must have been five it was the beautifully designed iPhone five yeah anyway I don't want to take up
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all your time so I was 10 10 Generations I'm just fact checking yes iPhone 5. okay so five through fifteen that's a
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lot of lightning cables out in the world yeah and uh all I'm saying is people more than 10 Generations because they
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have the s's yeah so they're either gonna need a lot a bunch of new lightning cable a bunch of new USBC cables or a bunch of adapters yeah just
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saying yeah and they're supposed to make a lot of money on those adapters you've been on the max yeah any camera
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observations with that 5x because I know I'm on the regular Pro and I still have a 3X and it's just early observations
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before I do my side by side on computer testing very similar camera yeah last year I I think this is going to be
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fairly divisive because you go from a 1X main lens and then you have that 2x like
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basically sensor level crop that is not necessarily cropping it's just kind of using the center pixels and then from
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there all the way to 5x you're basically doing a digital Zoom of sorts yeah so I
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can we can maybe throw this in the video I have this example where I took a 4.9 x shot and then a 5x shot and the
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difference in noise is crazy yeah so that's and I I need to like make a graphic for this but from 0.5 x to 2x they are the same
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quality yeah they're the same as each other yeah but once you get to 3x 3 to 5 over 2. uh on this phone so I'm just comparing these to each
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other okay from three to five this will perform better yes then as soon as you get to five that
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will perform that yes so if you do a lot of deeper zooms then anything past five you'll want the max but if you don't
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zoom into 5x all the time then you might find that the max is actually a worse one to get yeah I did
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notice that once you go past five though the quality actually falls apart fairly quickly oh interesting like I'm at 15x
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right now and this doesn't look good it's not great yeah it looks terrible whereas if you look at any it looks so
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good I don't looks amazing generally but he's very noisy in this photo what do you mean
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oh no that's actually that was funny um yeah any Android phone not any Android phone but many Android phones look much better at this than this at this Zoom range
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um so the 5x lens looks pretty good I've been doing a lot of testing around Manhattan with the 5x lens and it is
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nice for like when you want to shoot photos of things really far away yeah um something that was really interesting that they talked in the keynote they
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were like iPhone is a very social camera so we want it to hit these things and I
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think by that they mean you take a lot of pictures of people and you take a lot of pictures of food and you take a lot of issues of pets and I think that's
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what they're saying uh I think they were saying that's mostly what people use their phones for and so 5x is like
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is that still a social lens I feel like 5x is my kids doing something on the playground or playing soccer or something like that that five actually sounds like a great uh optical zoom or a
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great zoom level for like I'm sitting in the stands of an event that's my kid is part of or a con a school concert or
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something like yeah the funny thing is all the examples that they showed for the 5x lens were like sports photography
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like people swimming really fast people are running really fast they were and they were like crapped way in yeah yeah
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it's interesting it is interesting I I think ultimately we expect the 5x to come to the pro next year yeah I think that's like I think that'll have a classic thing that they do but it I
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think Samsung does a good job where they have another one 3x and 10x yeah so they're like look if you want 3x we got you but if you want deep Zoom we also got it I'm just really interested as if
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apple is ever going to bring a fourth lens it wouldn't make sense because the camera cutouts already Square why not
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add another lens into it like I understand not wanting Apple not wanting to do the Samsung thing of like
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five and then have to put another lens under the already like silhouette they've made but the silhouette is there
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to have another account well it's funny because the the idea of having four lenses on an iPhone feels really silly
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but also when the first three camera iPhone came out we made all those memes about it being like the Fry everything
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the stovetop yeah we used to have one so what's one more we'll get used to it but yeah
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um battery life so far on the pros on the max for me has been like kind of subpar for a Max it gets me barely over 24 hours which is like cool but the
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previous two Maxes got me like almost three days yeah so I feel like that a17 Pro is just generally using more power
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this is something I think we're converging on because I've also tried to withhold judgment on battery and told
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them at least a weekend so I'm eight days in now and I have not had great days I've had a lot of normal days and I've had a couple bad days yeah I have not had the normal couple of great days
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also yeah so I am starting to think yeah it is a17 pro being more power hungry and being able to drop faster a standby time's still good times really good but it is more powerful chip that can eat
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power faster yeah like I went to bed at like 26 I woke up and it was at 25 went to bed at 26 yeah that's terrifying and you didn't plug it in no on purpose
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testing oh testing is your phone your alarm uh yeah you are both well I also wake up naturally anything like for my alarm under 20 I'm not gonna risk that 25 26. well let's do it it was good so I
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went to bed with 26 woke up at 25 so that was like okay I slept like six and a half seven hours and it dropped one
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percent but then from the time that I woke up to the time that I got to work which is like two and a half hours total
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it had dropped to 10 battery yeah and that was like me using it yeah most of that time but I'm on the pro right now I just did a trip where it was on the wireless charger the entire time it's 3
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P.M I'm at 44 that's not as good as it usually is that's nice there's another wireless charger in your car yeah yeah
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there and back yeah and did that fill it up overnight yeah I started with 100 today is that what you took video with
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yeah so taking video is going to burn through like I like I said you're right it's a little tough yeah yeah so I know
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I'm burning through a little bit faster than normal but I'm not having the great days where it's like oh I didn't do a
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bunch of video I just had like a couple navigation things in the morning and then a normal day and the day was 70 haven't had that day yet so someone will
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keep an eye on my zenfone's still killing it but yeah still I think that rules I love this thing so yeah sorry I
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had to just like throw that shot I'm really glad I can get through 24 hours it's just that compared to the previous
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Pro Maxes that were getting me literally almost three days yeah I think that the the a17 pro chip is just really power
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hungry while it's active so that titanium looks so good it does look pretty yeah actually that blew it like I
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would love that blue actually not bad I really like it but just like yeah that looks so good the black looks really
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good they killed it with the pro colors this is the first year I didn't order a black phone yeah
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oh really yeah wow I ordered a titanium 15 Pro are you gonna switch to matte titanium all everything yeah limited shirt on the max for battery but we'll
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see we'll see we'll get there a day of battery because I like the cement dbrand skin it kind of looks like that anyway
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okay on to a couple other things Apple also we wanted to talk about back glass repair is getting cheaper because they
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mentioned in the keynote they have like an actual line in the keynote where they they said the word repairability on stage which like never happens but they
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really did it and they went and designed the chassis to have a more easily replaceable back glass uh now we see
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those new back glass replacement prices they've gone from five 500 550 bucks on iPhone 12 13 turning 14 pro Max down to 199 on 15 Pro Max 300 price drop is like
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500. I can't believe it was 550 first 500. you could get a Zenfone oh please replace your back glass with the zenfiend or Blazer bag glass or get his info I'd rather duct tape my phone shut
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which is what a lot of people do you see those things everywhere just put the case over yeah and never take it off
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again yeah honestly yeah yeah would you rather spend 500 bucks or just put a case on put a case put a case on it for
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sure 100 that's like a 13 fix yeah oh yeah apparently the new chassis is easier to take the glass off the back and replace it 200 is still pretty expensive for a pro Max but
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350 less is a crazy drop yeah I don't know what that's saying just before it was way too expensive cheese but I'm glad to see some sort of
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improvement it's one of those apple things where like still bad but thank you for not as good yeah you know just
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many Apple things yeah um other thing we have is just uh remember how they announced new iCloud
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storage levels yeah we got pricing for that six terabytes is 29.99 a month and 12
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terabytes is 60 a month did they talk about having family plans on the bigger I did options not see that yet okay but to be honest I didn't yeah I didn't look that hard for it yeah I was just mostly
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upset about here that like two terabytes is 9.99 a month so like I would assume if you are going to jump to 12 terabytes they should give you somewhat of a discount like like 60 a month is so much
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make it fifty dollars yeah this is the exact same as just paying for the two terabyte yeah
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by three cents oh you're right 99 oh yeah times three is is 29.97 you're right and six terabytes is 29. oh that's so funny so it's actually
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more expensive to minus six terabyte that's weird that's very funny I'm just saying that someone who has basically no
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blood family but many different technical families I would love to be in a family plan with
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this yeah so yeah like people wondered if we held back anything we said at the Apple event the only thing we did was
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David talking about his family in front in front of them to see who his family Grandma's ashes
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hold on the six terabyte is 29.99 and then yeah it's a 12 terabyte is also double but more expensive because it's 59.99 instead of 59. so what is that six
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cents more expensive it's well then the two terabyte but if you just doubled up the six terabyte and got two 29.99s that
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would supposed to be 59.98 but it's 59.99 come on Apple that extra send man very strange okay well that's out there yeah I think that's about all we have for Apple stuff stay tuned for the
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reviews the reviews are in the works we've got a lot to say about these phones and also the watch and the double tap underrated man I just do this all
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day now all day yeah and Ellis started using an Apple Watch everything no I I I didn't interest it's not true I started using it because I wanted a walkie-talkie
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everyone it was fun shooting stuff yeah that was because in Ohio Vin and Brandon were walkie-talking and I was like wow
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that's the most essential tool on a shoot and uh yeah so I wore it for the trip and then I got home and then now I'm
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still wearing it and it's crazy I know I've got this beautiful watch box at my apartment that now just goes unopened
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it's honestly a travesty he's the walkie-talkie and ecosystem feature I think it's kind of I believe so I mean I
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had to wear a few watches at the event so that I could walkie-talkie you can only walkie-talkie I don't know you have to do anything you chose this was epic
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because I was not I was slacking you guys and you weren't replying and I just go shh Adam this is David over and he's
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like David just won the one watch no wait you're not wearing your watch right now I'm wearing my Casio 1200 for the thousands of people that have asked
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me what this watch is I was driving so I modified Casio 1200 with a steel case and some filters sick all right let's
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talk about this monitor company because you have this on the notes here and I I'm like familiar with I think we saw
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the Monitor and they made a laptop it was like a surface uh killer yeah case it was basically yeah it looked just like a surface yeah but what is going on it's Eve if you remember it was
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from 2017. I believe that's around when the tablet was out um yeah it was like a tablet and it had the like Alcantara
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like keyboard with it um we got the tablet we never really did too much with it um and then they started selling monitors I don't want to go too deep into it but um Sean Hollister from The
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Verge I think his name is he just did like this incredible write-up about how Eve which is now a company called doe I
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believe d-o-u-g-h am I pronouncing that right don't might be the worst Tech name I've
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ever heard there's like we make your money that's what I said yeah we're stealing your dough yeah but
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um so they rebranded they've had a bunch of monitors they've announced but like didn't really ship and now they're still
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releasing new ones but still have old ones that aren't really shipping on the line and there hasn't been a lot of refunds and then they started a new
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refund process but those people aren't really getting refunds but Sean has been covering it for a long time and he wrote
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this like really really great Verge article that we'll list in the Buy in the show notes and like I highly suggest
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reading it and if anyone out there has dealt with this company and maybe is having an issue with refunds go read
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that article and maybe you'll have a better chance of getting something back but like it feels really shady especially for a
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company that apparently just buys panels from off the shelf and you could probably get the same panels from any other reputable monitor company so
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that's weird weird spot definitely read it it's long but it's it's really well written is it just that they're stealing
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people's refunds like what is happening well they're not giving refunds and then some of them are giving refund dates
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passed when you could already like um do a credit card uh like refund or chargeback so like it's just a lot of weird stuff of them promising that they're gonna give money back but not
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giving money back and then also taking money and not shipping things and like still releasing new products and trying
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to get away from it but still being really shady and it's because they're taking too long to ship the things people already bought yeah just like not
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shipping them in general or not yeah like an Indiegogo back in like two times I think that was like definitely 12 or something that was like an OG like 10 years ago some sort of Kickstarter thing
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and now they're just doing like pre-orders on their own site but I think some of those I think there's also remember the original Indiegogo for the
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tablet like it was supposed to be like 3x the specs of the Surface tablet but it was like it looked exactly the same
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and it took like two years to come out or something I remember we got that and then I swore they offered to send us the
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Monitor and I forget if we said yes or no I just don't remember ever hearing from them again and then I didn't know
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they renamed their company I thought they just went can't I don't know they had a sick red and black logo though so
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like no it's probably definitely send them your money yeah um dang but yeah it it seems like I think everyone should
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read it just because it's a really good article and especially if you've ever dealt with them before and are looking for money back but way more importantly
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our next article yes yes Microsoft Paint is adding layers and transparency this is so sick this is the best thing that's happened in 2023
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um Story of the Year yes it is this is story of the year so I mean layers are huge if you've anyone's ever used Photoshop I hope so um but it like completely changes how paint works
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because paint was very much a like I do an action and that action is basically permanent now yeah
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um and then not only can you now use transparent pngs and save as a transparent PNG but it also has a tool that looks like it will eliminate the backgrounds and like cut a subject out
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and either save it as a transparent PNG or if you do it on a top layer it'll show the layers underneath
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should I be making thumbnails do you guys know when paint first came out no you want to guess oh God what version of Windows didn't have 94. do you want to guess Marquez what
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did paint come out when did paint come out 91. are you 1985. really yeah this is a
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37 year coming um situation somewhere out there there's a paint Die Hard who's just like 38
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years this is the best day of his life no or he's like I hate this new update it ruins my pain it ruined everything I
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want to know do you remember when um Microsoft thought that like augmented reality was going to be the future back
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in like 2017 or so and then like HP and compact on Lenovo made those like Microsoft 3D like AR headsets so then Microsoft updated paint to make it they
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have a paint 3D now you can do like augmented reality painting and it's just very funny that that came out before transparent BSG
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it's actually incredible hey priorities man anything you think that's true well maybe they were just too early because now the you know the uh Vision Pro is all AR stuff so true we'll be making
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layers and paint and drawing things in midair but yeah I think this is your new thumbnail oh wait no you use it a Mac
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that's probably gonna be kind of hard we should make we have to make a full machine yeah just for having paint on my
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Mac that's right to make thumbnails that's how you do it that's what I'm gonna do it's a Pro Gamer move absolutely we definitely have to have
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Tim use this though and make a thumbnail in paint I think I don't mind that yeah
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uh okay last last thing before the break Dolly three is about to come out it just
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got announced um oh my God dolly is kind of the thing that started this whole AI like
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explosion in the public eye I remember the week that we found out about Dolly through like a couple Twitter posts and
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it was when Dolly 2 had just come out we were like what what is this generative AI like what does generative AI what is
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like a large language model like what is all this stuff and it just like we just dove into learning about this stuff that
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was when we had to like write up what we wanted and send to them and they did the
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like the like the prompts for it and then we got a bunch of pictures from that like yeah that's how now you can
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just like yeah go do it whenever you want So at the time Dolly 2 looked like incredible right like comparatively to
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what we had before compared to Dolly one compared to like anything because we had no idea that you could type in words and get a picture out of it
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um so net but now all of the stuff's coming out mid-journey is insane now so dolly two looks like Child's Play at
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this point um but now Jolly Three is coming out and there's a lot of different stuff about
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Dolly three that makes it updated um it's it's got much more art to work with so it's just better in general uh it can take it works with chat gbt
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so it's like embedded inside of chat GPT for chat GPD Plus members and the funny
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thing is you ask for an image but if your prompt is too simple chat gbt will expand your prompt to make it more complex so that dolly is better at doing
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it because it works better with more words yeah he's better at using the AI tool than you yeah oh yeah because why
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do they even need me at the same thing you know it's just you just type in like there and words are just you just open
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the program and it does it for you yeah eventually you're just going to open it up and just look at it and enter and it's gonna go I got you I got you it
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also understands context much better than before I think previously it had trouble with things like the idea of
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writing something so if you did it horrible at that a teddy bear riding a horse like it did it actually oh writing
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writing writing like if you ask for a stop sign it makes a stop sign but then it says like soap on the side or
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something like you can't write anything I'm not sure about that okay um that would be interesting to find out it's
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theoretically going to come out in early October so I'm very excited to try it and also it allows artists to opt out of
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openai using their art which I'm not really sure how where they're sourcing all the art from and how you're going to be able to like label your art as do not
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use yeah I could see it as like my account on Deviant or yeah like that I opt out of this and this is where my
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stuff's posted but that doesn't take away from where your stuff's already stolen on the internet and if it's pulling it from there so that still
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seems like a tough thing to do yeah I have no idea maybe there's I could see something in the future of like when
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you're creating something in the metadata it has a like I opt out of this being used for whatever but that's
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supposed to be that's that's a thing that's being built right now yeah is that a thing that's being built for I
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opt out or is that a thing that's being built for it this is AI generated art and in the metadata shows that it's made
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by a there's a thing they're working on it's a whole Consortium with a bunch of the camera manufacturers and like Adobe
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where within the metadata there's an encrypted level in the metadata that changes every time you've made an
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alteration to the image it leaves a tag on when that alteration was made and what it was and if it was created by AI
00:28:05
it will say I generated as well yeah so I believe so yeah I think that's different though than from like I make something in in
00:28:16
the metadata there's something where it's like I'm opting out of this ever being like pulled from me yeah yeah I
00:28:22
don't know I don't think that's the thing anyone's I don't think it's in the works but that would be the best way for that to because I don't know how do you
00:28:28
how do you retroactively remove your contributions it seems like they already have it
00:28:33
trained on something so I like remove what I already let's let them opt out after we have trillions of images it's
00:28:39
just an awkward conversation because open AI is getting sued from like every direction right now from people being
00:28:44
like I did not consent to you using my stuff and now they're trying to be more proactive about it but it's like the
00:28:51
damage has kind of already been done and now just saying like we will use your stuff unless you opt out is kind of
00:28:57
strange so I don't know forgiveness not permission yeah um but no one forgives you and all yeah
00:29:05
uh currently they have no plans uh that have been laid out to the public as to how have a free version of this which is interesting um kind of crazy because you know they
00:29:16
just dropped uh Dolly too they just dropped chat gbt now everything is kind of starting to go behind a paywall um which is interesting for a company that was originally non-profit and is
00:29:27
now a capped profit company yeah yeah none of this somehow shocks me at all yeah it's kind of the natural progression of capitalism do you think we'll continue to see like the newer versions behind the paywall and then the
00:29:39
version gets dropped out of the paywall into like the free version awesome I don't know it's probably the easiest way
00:29:45
to do that but I think that they're keeping I think they're keeping the public access at a like much lower tier
00:29:50
just because of like AI regulation and hasn't caught up yet and they don't really know what they're that's why it's not all the money they want to make yeah
00:29:57
right that's the reason yeah yeah so anyway um chugging along chugging along pretty soon Dolly will just make whole waveform episodes that's true it's really not that far off
00:30:11
I'm excited I said in the video I was like first to make a picture then it makes short animations then it makes
00:30:17
videos then it makes YouTube videos then it makes movies it's just yeah yeah we're just chugging along that path like yeah
00:30:23
one rung of the ladder at a time slowly we're getting it was less than a year ago that this came the first one came
00:30:28
out we'll die too but yeah wow isn't that crazy yeah yeah insane oh like Kim with the new paint
00:30:35
versus chat GPT with dolly man fellas must be a huge AI fan because he just keeps putting thumbs up over
00:30:42
there about all this talk thumbs down big thumbs down very sad go see the Adobe thing with the
00:30:49
Adobe stock thing what is it about how a bunch of artists were complaining that if you search
00:30:54
their name on Adobe stock it doesn't serve their profiles it serves AI art generated to be in their Styles even though they all opted out of the wow the
00:31:05
training thing ugh uh thumbs down that's the worst possible this is the weird thing about AI is you can just kind of like dance around the stuff that they're blocking with like
00:31:16
different semantics here's another one just to make you guys uh with what's the first quiver in your britches or
00:31:22
whatever um there's like a long-standing agreement between Spotify and all the major record labels that Spotify isn't allowed to hold music copyrights
00:31:33
because as soon as they hold the copyrights to music they can push those records before the record labels records
00:31:39
and just not have to pay anyone royalties on music that they own right um uh so but if they just start
00:31:46
generating AI music they don't even need to copyright it they can just not pay anyone period oh interesting so there's
00:31:53
like a huge incentive for them to like fill up their playlists with AI generated music that is interesting
00:31:58
because then you know they just keep all that monthly uh yeah those monthly fees it makes me
00:32:04
think like one day it's just gonna start infiltrating my Spotify weekly like at this point if you hang around tick tock
00:32:12
or YouTube long enough or even Instagram long enough you might without even knowing it stumble past an AI
00:32:20
Channel an AI character and you might not even know it's AI but it's just another thing or a person in your feed
00:32:26
you don't even realize it the V tube or whatever we've been AI for weeks it could be me it could be you but now it could be in your Spotify for you page and you wouldn't even notice or maybe
00:32:38
you will notice maybe it's horrible music but we'll figure it out eventually that's interesting we should take an ad
00:32:44
break before I get any more sad we should we should take an ad break that is a good idea Andrew but before we take an outbreak we should do trivia
00:32:53
uh it's so much better that's the normal trivia volume and we're back to one it was so loud
00:33:00
so first question Dan McCabe led development on the graphics for something called Microsoft chart which was a software that was eventually incorporated into Microsoft
00:33:12
Excel what other piece of famous Microsoft software did Dad McCabe helped to create
00:33:19
it's a very famous name at least I can name a name Microsoft software is for this one I can take a guess on this yeah
00:33:25
that's how I'm treating this question a different piece of Microsoft software and also to the listeners and viewers uh
00:33:33
there's a Microsoft event tomorrow at the time of recording so we're not talking about that because it is
00:33:38
tomorrow at the time of recording but yeah at the time of viewing yeah sorry Panos isn't here with us anymore blah blah more surface new Zoom Bing is
00:33:52
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00:35:03
all right welcome back we have the Amazon event the thrilling Amazon event that still I'm confused about is if it's
00:35:09
like private or public event because it's it's live streamed but there's no embargo but the event is private but the announcements are public okay yeah it
00:35:20
was very weird I was watching the stream today you guys were shooting something so you missed the beginning of it then you missed the rest of it you caught
00:35:26
some of the end of it David yeah um it's an Amazon event it's like every other Amazon event where they announce a
00:35:33
bunch of things go for it we made a new home device and we put Alexa in it we made X and put Alexa in it then we made another one and also put Alexa in
00:35:46
it okay so the clock and the toaster that was fun years ago I don't think they did anything as a wild in this one no astrobots they did show a tile of
00:35:59
astrobot right from the start and I was pumped and then they never mentioned our little buddy again and by buddy I mean
00:36:05
little demon spawn that is like biting my ankles all the time I also feel like we're in in this Tech Niche it's another
00:36:12
one of those ones where we probably don't know as many people that use Alexa versus Google assistant and Siri as home
00:36:19
device things Alexa has way more prevalent though with a lot of it is a lot of people that I know that aren't as
00:36:25
like techy yeah that's what their home home automation is is Alexa yeah in 2020 according to the verge 25 of us households had at least one wow really
00:36:36
of all households so not just households with smart that's crazy it was just like
00:36:45
did they have stats on compared to Google assistant or Siri one moment well why you look at that um the the first thing they mentioned in this was the echo the Alexa show eight the main
00:36:57
reason I'm bringing it up here is because the way they described it I thought was a little confusing okay and
00:37:03
I want I put a picture over here and David and Marquez you guys missed this part I want you to describe what this
00:37:08
looks like this one right here yes this to me looks like a small children's tablet oh woof
00:37:15
okay you know like a seven that's not how they're just like a small like a seven inch tablet with thick bezels
00:37:22
because again you're gonna give it to your kid but then it like has a stand on the back which probably has a speaker in it and now it's on a kitchen table and
00:37:28
it's got a video call on it so it most likely is like a nest home hub right something like that yeah they would not try to hide this camera at all no no no
00:37:35
so it is it is similar to like a nest home hub it's a it's an Alexa product that has a screen where you can do some
00:37:41
stuff and it does do some cool things I'll mention that in a minute but right off the bat the way they described this was
00:37:47
edge to edge glass what I hate when they did and that was like have you heard other people use that term before we're used to Edge screens which is what we
00:37:58
anyone actually cared about most things have edged yeah I know but screen is actually smaller yes who cares if it's
00:38:05
edge to edge glass when it's got this dummy thick bezel on the side of it like yeah this is something we've I've heard
00:38:13
that before like it's edge to edge glass something you look at it you're like oh I see why you said it that way because
00:38:19
it's not etched Edge screen but the glass is corner to corner neat don't really care that really that made
00:38:27
me mad I thought that was a very deceiving way of describing this especially because like these bezels are
00:38:33
brutal and I'm not saying that the like Nest home bezels are good those are pretty bad also pretty thick but like
00:38:39
calling this etched Edge glass felt that was pretty funny dishonest yeah um one thing I did really like about this though is one of the features it has on it is when it's just being a smart
00:38:49
display it has a sensor to tell how close you are to it which will actually change the UI of what's being displayed
00:38:55
which I think is a neat feature so like if you're far away it's only going to show possibly one thing with very large
00:39:01
text then the closer you get the more things that will show up on the UI with smaller text because it knows you can see it that's kind of cool um I think
00:39:08
that's really neat I wish my I don't think my Nest home hub has that no but um I think that's actually a really really cool idea give it a week it also has like they talked about
00:39:20
generative Ai and Alexa like within this and then directly after this I know David has a lot to talk about it mostly
00:39:26
from what I saw was like their examples were hey what's the score of my favorite
00:39:32
football team and it knew what their favorite football team was unless told them the score that's just context no no
00:39:38
they were like Alexa write me a poem yeah no no there was there was definitely like a generative or or they
00:39:45
have one of them had Alexa he was like I don't remember the exact context but it was like Alexa I like broke my foot or something I can't go to my friend's
00:39:51
birthday and yeah Alexa was like bet and then he was like right write the text that says no go no show
00:39:57
um yeah definitely generating something it's they're they're updating with generative AI I have many thoughts about
00:40:03
this um shoot okay so it'll be more interesting than the Amazon they're I have like 20 versions of a script that I've been writing ever since this AI stuff started happening because it keeps changing really fast so I keep changing
00:40:15
the point of the video yeah uh you first told me about that script like literally yeah yeah one of the versions of that
00:40:23
video was called natural language computers and it was a it's sort of about how the way we interface with
00:40:28
devices is going to become just a lot more just natural conversation and this reminds me a lot of when Adam and I were
00:40:34
at Android authority like in like 2018 or 2017 2018 and Google Assistant first came out and one of our bosses thought he could just talk to it by going like
00:40:46
hey Gee um I left my car at the store and I need to how do I go get it and it would just be like what yeah and at the time for a very long
00:40:59
period of time you've had to use these keywords these prompts that specifically it listened for so that it you had to
00:41:06
know how to talk to the computer exactly but the big update that they're making now is that that's sort of starting to
00:41:13
go away you're able to just sort of talk about things in a more natural way and it understands the context of what you need and what you want and it will trigger commands based on that so it's
00:41:24
not like they're hard they no longer really need to hard code in like these very specific commands that you're
00:41:29
making it understands your context and it can like provide functions based on that yeah and that's like a very nice
00:41:36
futuristic way to interface with computers a really good example that was the Amazon Fire stick and how somebody
00:41:41
was showing off how to start searching for a movie by like some more simple things that was like I want a movie
00:41:47
about sports but then when it would bring up results it would say I want one that I don't have to pay for I want one
00:41:52
yes that I haven't seen yet and then even more so they could say like me and my family really like video games too is
00:41:59
there one that could like coincides with sports and video games or stuff and he was asking some like pretty complicated
00:42:05
things you would never expect to ask like just a Google assistant or a simple especially and it was Eerie especially
00:42:12
yeah yeah can you imagine yeah yeah I yeah I have like my I can attempt to make this sentence in real time my I'm ready thesis on
00:42:24
accessible high-end Computing like Star Trek has always been this is like my anyone who's watched Star Trek has always realized like oh they have a lot of really good
00:42:34
ideas in here even though they're not real they have like a lot of things that actually turn out to be true eventually yeah and that's why I don't think I can
00:42:39
name all the planets but also on that note apparently the Echo Show 8 looks just like something from Star Trek Ellis
00:42:46
was very I can't about that I can believe that but like you know with the medicator people like you know now we have we have Smart walkie-talkie yeah
00:42:53
we've gotten a lot of things from Star Trek and one of the things they always had was computer yeah like they just talked to the computer and which is why
00:42:59
Amazon added it for the echo yeah you can say hey yeah exactly yeah but the idea at least was like if you're
00:43:06
watching the show you're thinking wouldn't it be nice if like I could just ask my computer to do things and it
00:43:11
would understand me and as of right now or as of right before AI you need in order to tell a computer to do something you need it to either learn the UI of the software or learn to code
00:43:23
yeah to be able to talk to the computer to do something yeah and AI just just shifted that line it's flipped it basically and moved it way way closer to
00:43:35
Natural so you can just tell it something yeah and it can literally write code for you talk to the computer
00:43:42
for you figure out what to do for you yeah and ideally in the most Ideal World I think accessible Computing for everyone is just natural language that's the ideal like Finish Line I think for
00:43:52
all this stuff if you get frustrated at the fact that you need to learn how to code think about how hard it is for
00:43:57
computers to learn English much harder okay it's called a coding language because there's information coded within
00:44:04
the language that you are using that is static that does not change whereas natural language is contextual and
00:44:11
changes over the generations if I say it's lit fam to my computer you think it's gonna know what that means in 1985
00:44:18
when they invented but the other thing Alexa show me some lit ass movies right now exactly no but that's also the other thing that
00:44:31
I think about a lot is the the job of knowing how to code that job has changed so much because then it's either like do you become good at prompt engineering for AI or do you become good at writing
00:44:46
code to make computers better understand humans natural language until the computer can just write better code to do that oh that's a lot there's a lot of layers that are all transferred together
00:44:57
it's recursive yeah it's a lot so yeah there's a lot going on with regenerative Ai and talking to a computer yeah I just
00:45:03
like it to get better I actually think it's pretty exciting that we're actually finally seeing somebody adding
00:45:09
conversational natural language processing into a product that people actually use every day because I don't
00:45:15
really think that a text box that we type into is going to be the end State I think the end state is either ambient
00:45:21
Computing where things just happen based on your actions that you do every day or just natural language the and I think
00:45:28
it's like big that it's being able to understand way more Loosely based language on people who might not be that
00:45:35
Tech because all of us know our family has called us saying what is wrong with this this and all of us have just Googled it because we know how to Google things better than they do because we're
00:45:45
gonna prompt Engineers exactly we are good at literally thoroughly prompted so now
00:45:51
everyone can do that or just not have to do that yeah which means way less phone
00:45:56
calls and tech support that all of us have to do yeah it seems like the products themselves
00:46:01
you can still get better in baby steps like every time we get on Google I O and they're like we've been working on our
00:46:07
natural language models and sundar's like throwing all the stuff on stage I'm expecting to be able to go home to my assistant and be like all right open my
00:46:14
shades like open the garage door order this on Amazon and I still can't quite naturally do any of the things I want
00:46:19
but I still once in a while though do something like oh instead of saying hey assistant stop my timer I just say stop
00:46:27
yeah and it knows because of context oh the alarm's going off okay said stop all right I'll stop it right like little by
00:46:33
little we creep towards more natural but it's not like yeah blitzing our way there we just got to
00:46:39
get there eventually and the Amazon uh demos they showed were not the most advanced like you just said it every
00:46:45
year at Google I O like Sundar always shows off their most advanced version of what they have and we get all hyped and
00:46:51
we're like yeah we can go home and use that and then what we have at home is like one one trillionth of the power yeah
00:46:57
um so obviously this is gonna come out in baby steps and we were actually talking earlier about how it's kind of bold of Amazon to do a live uh keynote
00:47:04
because a lot of people have started doing pre-recorded Keynotes so that they can like skip over the clunky like live
00:47:10
demos and all that stuff that barely works and apparently the Wi-Fi was hanging on this and oh no all the stuff
00:47:16
it's also just like pre-recorded stuff they can redo takes and I just like watching it
00:47:22
just and I understand people are gonna stumble over words that's just natural but we've seen so many pre-recorded
00:47:28
events now that like seeing a live event like that again it was just like oh this is
00:47:33
yeah humans they were spoiled by the pre-recorded stuff we need we need to go back to like Steve Jobs act and everyone
00:47:38
to turn their Wi-Fi off yeah the keynote Google I O is live though I guess and that went pretty smoothly this is pretty
00:47:45
smooth yeah good job and Dave Burke is incredible at live demos so maybe it's just Apple's been spoiling us it was
00:47:51
pretty weird that we went in the Steve Jobs theater all set down and then just watched a movie together basically what
00:47:57
we did I mean it's a theater I guess I shouldn't be shocked yeah it's a pretty good screen but yeah it's just like hello in person and then we watched a
00:48:03
movie together yeah did you see him like come out and like watch it with us oh they did oh I didn't know so he goes so
00:48:09
the way it's always set up and we'll go to break in a second I swear but they only have it set up where it's like in
00:48:14
the bottom in the front there's a bunch of Apple employees and apple people and I think in the SCI sides there's also
00:48:20
typically a bunch of Apple employees people who work on campus and then also some presses there and so when you get
00:48:26
to certain sections like whenever you hear the the Applause it's always the Apple employees who are like yeah this
00:48:32
is a clap worthy one guys make sure you clap journalists we're just typing and like writing stuff down but like you hear the claps for things and Apple
00:48:39
employees who genuinely have no idea what the announcements will be sometimes clap with those things but yeah the front row is always like Tim Craig like
00:48:46
Jaws like all those guys so I just remember him he comes out on stage he goes good morning five times and then he goes let's watch a movie together and
00:48:53
then he walks off stage and I just remember his Apple watch like glowing as he walks off stage and then the movie stars and I just see his hair like
00:49:00
walking into the front row and sitting down in the front row and I'm like yeah we're just watching a movie together sounds like a Pixar film that's funny
00:49:06
yeah my favorite thing that they announced which was very small yeah it was part of
00:49:11
um I think just for like all the Alexa Echo products um the like smart speakers was having a motion sensor on it that
00:49:19
Ken sense if somebody is in the room and how much activity there is in the room and being able to automatically control
00:49:24
your lights based on that which I think is nice seems like something that should have existed for a long time yes
00:49:31
it has the like motion sensor built into the speaker so then when you enter a room it can turn the lights on based on
00:49:37
that and then I don't remember if they explained what the the activity level thing was but I
00:49:43
guess dim lights change lights based on how much activity is going on and that that all sounds a little way more
00:49:48
confusing but I just would love my smart speaker to turn my lights on when I come into a room I feel like I've had this
00:49:54
for a while do you have motions separate motion sensors like a Philips Hue setup you can get a motion sensor you can get
00:50:01
a separate motion sensor right this will just be a thing if if the nest Hub mini
00:50:06
has been like analyzing your sleep I feel like it should be able to turn your turn yeah especially because I can
00:50:13
already ask it to turn the lights on like just know that on there I feel like it's similar to this like walking up in
00:50:19
the UI changing like but before when you're talking about timers too like can it see me if a timer goes off and it
00:50:26
sees someone walk into the room and like open the oven be like oh I can probably turn this off I feel like I'm so close
00:50:31
to that we're close to the nest Hub where like it shows the clock usually but when I walk up to it in the morning it sees my face and it says hey Marquez
00:50:39
and shows me my stats for the day it's so close to just being like all right I can see what's going on in the
00:50:45
room let me just handle things that I know should happen oh no one's in the room anymore lights off yeah stuff like
00:50:50
that yeah this just seems like a privacy nightmare to me well it already is a privacy Nightmare and I get no benefits
00:50:56
it's all there already and I don't get the benefits if you're just gonna watch me all the time yeah give me some extra
00:51:02
feet if you're gonna watch me sleep turn my lights off if it's gonna be a nightmare anyway let me get some convenience for sure all right that's a
00:51:09
great place to leave it off uh but before we take our break of course let's do one more trivia question
00:51:16
title of this episode Amazon event my nightmare make my nightmare helpful Microsoft Paint was released in what year in 1985. nice it was released
00:51:30
as a reaction to what software released by a competitor in 1984 and if you don't
00:51:37
think you know the answer 1984 the year might help really why I have an answer but I know it's not right but I know Ellis will like dance that was a good hint I'm proud okay I
00:51:51
have an answer oh let me write this down do you think it's right I just don't want to forget it because you said that's I'm just going why does 1984 help
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00:53:03
friends today and this part of the podcast we're talking about Microsoft again except a
00:53:09
different arm of Microsoft Xbox Xbox so if you haven't been aware there has been this court case going on
00:53:15
because Microsoft was trying to buy Activision and then everybody sued them um because that would make them be
00:53:22
owners of a large part of the gaming landscape so they're in court currently fighting a lot of different people uh
00:53:29
but as part of this case they had to basically bring forward some like internal documents
00:53:35
and one of the people who brought one of the documents to the courthouse or uploaded it accidentally attached like way more pages than they meant to attach
00:53:47
of internal documents oh no so they ended up leaking like in a huge road map for like a bunch of their games and
00:53:53
products that they had no intention of letting people know about us um that's awesome I love that it was
00:54:00
very funny uh they thought the FTC leaked it and they blamed them and then the FTC was like element oh no it was
00:54:07
you they tweeted like the head of that to see or whatever had to tweet that like this was on you guys to seeing us
00:54:13
sorry bro yeah so they there was a lot of like pretty weird stuff like they had mapped out that Elder Scrolls 6 was not going to be on PlayStation which if they if they're activated and
00:54:25
deal with oh yeah it was I missed this it was like weird it was like it's gonna be on PC and Xbox but not PlayStation
00:54:31
like specifically said not places yeah it had like it had like these like green checks if it was going to be on that
00:54:37
platform and a red X if it wasn't and that was mapped for the road map and it was like bro their whole defense was
00:54:44
that they were not going to make the gaming industry worse and that's yeah evidence behind their back is a road map
00:54:50
of how they will do exactly that yeah oh okay great um so another part of that is they are releasing a new series X
00:54:57
refresh which is cylindrical and looks like a router exactly like a router yeah oh actually
00:55:05
kind of yeah that's my air purifier yeah wait it's not a box it's not a box I know it's not an Xbox I didn't even
00:55:12
think of that that name's taken YouTube Red all right well that was that was actually
00:55:25
in real time and you can't say that that was hilarious intro clip baby yeah it's not a box anymore yeah so now it's this like cylindrical thing which
00:55:38
is strange um they say it's beautiful in a new design it has up to two terabytes of
00:55:44
storage wait they didn't say beautiful they said it's adorably All Digital it says beautiful and Innovative oh does it
00:55:50
oh but adorably All Digital we could talk about that later what a so you don't need a you don't need to be a box
00:55:55
anymore because you don't need the disc slot so you can make it whatever shape you want so of course the box is now a circle it's like pretty completely
00:56:01
redesigned they have a USBC port for power delivery in the front um up to two terabytes of storage and a
00:56:07
brand new controller that is like completely different it looks real the controller looks nice I mean the the the
00:56:12
whole it's a refresh um it's like two term I can't tell if it's two terabytes of storage or up to
00:56:18
two terabytes of storage it says two terabytes of storage on the image keep in mind this is all like exactly this
00:56:24
this stuff that they made internally a little bit ago so it could it is subject to change it's part of like a giant
00:56:30
presentation that has some stuff we'll talk about later as well but why Wi-Fi 6E um note like we said no disk drive two
00:56:37
terabytes of storage 500 some reduced PSU power usage um I hate that it says adorably All
00:56:43
Digital it's like just say It's All Digital you don't need to try and like Gaslight me into thinking yeah the
00:56:49
digital part is like good for me yeah it grew up Claire look how adorable My All Digital Xbox is yeah um but yeah that
00:56:57
was kind of weird the new controller looks kind of cool it has like raised to wake so people are wondering if it has
00:57:02
different types of like sensors yes like Gyros are in it so that looks cool I also just want to throw out there I like the Xbox controller better than the PlayStation controller yes yes no no
00:57:15
I knew that would be a Hot Topic controller it kind of became like the de facto controller like when Logitech
00:57:21
makes like a 15 cheap controller it's modeled after the Xbox yeah and anytime you see a PC game being played on
00:57:27
something else they always plug in an Xbox controller it's weird the rocket League scene seems pretty split when I
00:57:32
watch rocket League streamers um yeah true yeah true I guess Microsoft that's because they get a little easier
00:57:37
yeah but right did get big on Playstation though yeah but there are a lot of PC players that use uh PS5
00:57:43
controllers the demo of like playing games in the Tesla screen wasn't that an Xbox controller yeah like anytime I see
00:57:49
a demo like that it seems like it's always an Xbox controller I will say I like the Xbox controller's ergonomics
00:57:55
yeah that's what I like better and I wish I could combine them with the PlayStation's layout
00:58:01
yeah wait what the PlayStation controller is thinner and has worse ergonomics but I wish I could take that
00:58:07
and put it and map it out onto the Xbox layout I like ergonomically better than I like the size best friends Gamers you guys are both wrong for a reason it's fine I mean the
00:58:19
PS5 controllers and I understand it is better than an Xbox controller but ergonomically I like the Xbox controller
00:58:25
better I think and someone who's an actual like Windows engineer can probably explain this to me on Twitter
00:58:32
better than I can but I think both the Xbox controller and connect have like class compliant e drivers baked into
00:58:39
Windows because I have lots of third-party software on my computer um that was written originally for
00:58:45
Windows that will plug into both of those pieces of Hardware like seamlessly yeah
00:58:51
um and I like something tells me that these devs are not going out of their way there's like a Controller driver
00:58:56
exactly inside of Windows and it like its default state is like an Xbox that's why Logitech like makes other controllers look like an Xbox controller because the buttons and the driver map
00:59:08
exactly the same makes sense I always whenever I was playing a dolphin emulator um on my computer it was always mapped
00:59:14
to that legally we could get a connect and a PC and we could control the lights in this room
00:59:20
that's right wait are we just skipping that what skipping what did you hear that connection yeah wait what wait guys you don't know
00:59:31
about Dolphin Emulator oh guys sorry the emulator is called yeah it's the most popular emulator it was very confusing to me but that's still how I saw it and I didn't think it
00:59:43
really there is emulating a dolphin there's goat it's wet oh my you've never heard of
00:59:48
goat simulator no I have no this is a GameCube emulator called dolphin well well I'm that's I'm just not surprised
00:59:54
by if it was a game he where he was a dolphin dolphin is like one of the most popular emulators I think if we can rewind you said whenever I play dolphin
01:00:02
emulator whenever I was playing a dolphin emulator no which in my head I immediately pictured you playing dude emulator in college I played dolphin
01:00:14
simulator I'm right there so much I did play truck simulator so I can't even talk I also want to say that I've never
01:00:20
used a PS5 controller but it actually looks very nice crazy the trigger the like adaptive
01:00:26
Trigger or whatever it's called is fantastic just play Astros player adaptive adaptive the uh the triggers
01:00:32
the feedback it's get different amounts of feedback based pressure what you're doing so like there's a game with the
01:00:39
bow and arrow thing yeah the bow and arrow thing so the more you squeeze the trigger pulling it taut and then you
01:00:44
like shoot it and it like releases the pressure it's and it's fast that's good I'm such a boomer yeah that controller
01:00:50
is really good damn this is awesome yeah okay well maybe they're better than Xbox then who knows
01:00:58
in this presentation we didn't just get to see the next refresh we got to see a couple years down the road potentially
01:01:05
too yeah I guess the presentation though is kind of old so this is like their road map into the future but they had a 2028 section yeah that mentioned a couple
01:01:16
ideas and there's a bunch of different stuff in here but it essentially comes down to it seems like they're trying to
01:01:22
make some sort of handheld device that's Cloud hybrid that is using cloud-based systems to be able to power a cheaper device to play mobile games for under a hundred dollars
01:01:35
ah yeah right for what year 2028 I believe it said that's a long time away that's what I was saying who knows if we're going to be doing that in 2028 because we're barely doing it now I'm
01:01:47
wondering if it's because if the presentation was older and like they were Road mapping too far ahead or it
01:01:53
did seem like there were some things that had to do with um like what components they could get
01:01:58
properly for it because we are seeing stuff like that now but we're also not seeing like fantastic versions of that
01:02:04
right now yeah um yeah I mean it kind of looks like this is like a wish list right because it's like next gen Ray tracing Dynamic
01:02:13
Global illumination it's kind of just like this is the stuff that we hope that we'll have at that point yeah improved
01:02:19
processing yeah I also want to note that the the Xbox head guy Phil it's been Spencer he like came out and was like this is an old deck things have changed
01:02:30
we are excited to announce the actual products when we're ready to announce them that's yeah so that's just like you
01:02:38
know one way we can kind of tell how this how old that was or how accurate it was is it did say that this Xbox series
01:02:44
s x refresh is like last week of October or like right before November well I'm just saying if it does come out then then we know if it's a little more accurate than what he's trying to play it up that's true um but still 2028 even
01:02:59
if it was accurate now who knows what actually comes out there I don't know if you can map five years ahead of time and
01:03:04
know what's gonna happen yeah yeah it's gonna be some new trend they're gonna be five years late too yeah interesting
01:03:09
like dynamically yeah but this is a huge leak and I just also thought it was hilarious that the FTC had to say like
01:03:15
we didn't do this you need to stop triggering everyone mentioning Ray tracing sorry I yeah I also wanna
01:03:24
oh yeah who knows if Nvidia is going to invent a new retro set I misspoke last week on the podcast
01:03:32
sorry to everyone I did I did watch it back and I did say inventory did you I didn't take it as that what I meant when I said that was that they brought it to like consumer products for like the
01:03:44
gaming products tracing people it brought it into mainstream for sure like we were talking about Ray tracing I
01:03:51
still a lot of people were talking about Ray juicing it was around I still I still should not have said
01:03:57
invented um so I'm sorry to the people that I offended but what I meant was that they
01:04:03
brought it to like a more consumer audience no your camera anyway that's it yeah well this is also David's last
01:04:09
episode he's more sorry that he got caught before we did don't worry we've taken away his paycheck from last month we've punished
01:04:20
him correctly for them still are Savage now we've issued our correction everyone's on the same page now we're all good yeah also if anyone wants like
01:04:27
way more information about this there are a lot of other people that do way more console stuff that we do and no
01:04:32
more so like judner your average consumer Austin Evans I'm sure are all over this right now with way more
01:04:37
information that Austin already has one um probably I think I found this from Austin posting that this is like the
01:04:43
biggest Xbox leak he's ever seen so wow go check out those channels if you want way more information on consoles um yeah
01:04:49
but we had to talk about it a little bit I like the controller yeah it's fun to talk about with the asterisks that I
01:04:56
don't really play any video games at all so except for DotA 2. and this dolphin and dolphin simulator and with that we will hit it into trivia
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I wrote down the second answer I need to hide it while I show you my first answer so I forget the quick recap on the
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points do you have to do this every week yes Marquez with nine Andrew with one two okay the one five five that's not as bad as it used to be no
01:05:32
David with nine okay so David and Marquez are tied with nine well Dan McCabe he created something called Microsoft chart which was a software that was eventually incorporated into Microsoft
01:05:42
Excel one other piece of famous Microsoft software that he helped create he is a famous guy like I know that name yeah same it like tickled my brain gosh
01:05:56
famous Microsoft software yep oh my gosh or is it and I almost want to say Infamous Microsoft software Infamous
01:06:09
I'm gonna be so mad if this is what it is but or if it's not what I wrote time okay
01:06:16
flip him and read what do you guys got I hope you're wrong Marquez because that's the other thing I wanted to say and then
01:06:22
he said Infamous and now I'm Marquez I uh I wrote Clippy okay nope I wrote PowerPoint nope I wrote Powershell
01:06:34
no okay well what is that any answer why do I know his name so well Microsoft Paint is that really what it was I thought you said he made Microsoft Paint yeah oh my
01:06:45
God oh my great yeah how proud are you that none of us got I'm so proud this is my moment this is the cell this is so disappointed in us this is the same thing where
01:06:58
you're like so what do we eat steak with a fork what do you eat salad with a fork
01:07:04
what do you eat macaroni with a fork would you eat soup with a fork I don't use it with a four guys or with a spoon
01:07:10
it's like the same thing yeah literally thought your question was he wrote paint
01:07:15
what else did he make well he did do paint I guess yeah right you're crazy I asked Adam I was like do you want me to change my trivia question because since mine's like about paint it kind of like throws tears off he was like nah
01:07:28
we're good you're good because these idiots aren't gonna catch on I'm just glad none of us got it all right
01:07:34
Microsoft Paint released 1985 as a reaction to what software which came out January of 1984. why does this have to do with George
01:07:47
Orwell you're not thinking tacky enough oh Apple oh wait [Music] all right get the button gun
01:08:04
uh what is the Apple version of paint called [Music] who cares flip him and read
01:08:17
what did you write kid picks what is that I don't know is it an old like drawing software on Apple right oh man that's a good guess right oh wow that's a great guess okay wait can you
01:08:29
please explain it better kid picks is this really fun uh art software for kids that was like a big part of my childhood
01:08:36
it has like a great sound effects package it's like super entertaining to use if you're a kid um
01:08:42
k-i-d-p-i-x kidnx I'm sure SEO I'm sure now it has an X it's okay anyway I wrote Apple but Apple software yeah I wrote Apple
01:08:54
paint which doesn't exist right unless it does it is Apple the software is called
01:09:01
Mac paint oh does Apple paint gosh Marquez I thought you used Mac paint in the dope Tech episode of Bill Nye the Science Guy uh yeah I did nice yeah I definitely that's
01:09:16
the only time I've ever used Mac paint but I definitely I've never used it I wrote Apple paint yeah uh my assistant
01:09:23
is unfortunate unfortunately but if I get a bunch of angry messages on Twitter that should sound clear that shouldn't count don't message him on Twitter that's
01:09:34
y'all I should have heard the question bully him up that first question with the with the paint thing I my first thought when you said it was oh obviously paint because we're talking
01:09:46
about paint right now and then the second time you asked it I thought the question was who else who wrote paint
01:09:51
what else did he make when I first wrote the question I was originally gonna be like so we were just talking about Microsoft Paint and then ask you guys
01:09:58
the question but I thought that was really tricky yeah then that would have been too much that's really evil that's crazy
01:10:04
yeah it still works well zero points across the board for everyone this trivia round that's okay though it's gonna happen sometimes we're gonna get some right next time that's the way it goes I wish so I hope either way this
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has been a fun episode stay tuned for the videos we talked about that are in the works of course on the other channels but also feel free to watch the
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