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welcome back people of the internet to
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another episode of the waveform podcast
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we're your hosts marquez and i'm andrew
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and today's episode i'm already
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predicting i'm gonna get a little bit
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ranty but i'll try not to get too crazy
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we're gonna talk about the nothing event
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but we also have the reviews of the mac
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studio and the studio display we'll talk
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about that a little bit and we're also
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gonna reveal what phone andrew finally
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picked up the results of the poll were
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interesting i'm looking at it over here
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but we're going to reveal that during
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this episode but first
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andrew you have a little thing like kind
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of like an apple watch pro tip yeah um
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so we're doing the uh the challenge app
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right now this killed me this was great
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yeah so
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we do this every once in a while i
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haven't participated in a little bit but
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um we like to do the challenges group
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app uh whatever you it's just called
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challenges right it's challenge it's a
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group fitness competition with the apple
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web yeah if you're on apple watch and
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you ever think i really wish there was
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group fitness challenges there's an app
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called challenges that actually lets you
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do it we really like it um and so this
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weekend it was my really good friend's
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wedding um congrats matt and beth it was
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so much fun and i have physical proof of
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how fun it was because
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i didn't want to lose my points that day
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but
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you know i'm known to get down on the
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dance floor at weddings so i i realized
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there was a dancing
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exercise yep on the app so
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you know wedding rolls around not doing
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much all day in terms of exercising at
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least got my stand hours plenty because
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we're doing stuff all morning and then
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dinner rolls out after the reception and
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it's dancing time so i decided to throw
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on that dance um
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exercise and
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i looked the next morning and i just
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want to read off some of the stats from
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this because i think they're kind of
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crazy yeah so let's see i started at 10
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o'clock p.m and went to 11 39 p.m total
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time an hour and 30 minutes active
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calories burned 895
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total calories 1067.
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average heart rate for an hour and a
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half was 147 beats per minute that's
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kind of incredible and i'm looking at
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the graph because it gives you a graph
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yeah of how your heart rate went up and
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down during the workout with like most
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workouts that do like some sort of a
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graph yeah i'm trying to figure out what
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songs we're playing during certain
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spikes
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spike in them see the one in the middle
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that's 100 dance with somebody by
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whitney houston okay that's
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best wedding song ever and if you
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disagree with that i don't think we can
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be friends um there's a short spike
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that's very tall near the end too
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towards the and you're like somewhere
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between the middle of the and the end
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there's like this
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oh that that 170 bpm that was like
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that's what i'm talking about i think
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that's that's okay this little um
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earlier in here um there's a more
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prolonged spike they did like a stride
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of
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the like early 2000s like pop punk like
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blink 182 and lit and all that and
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that's a very nostalgic for me so i
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think i went pretty hard there as well
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several songs in a row so yeah but i'm
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i'm pretty pumped this is hands down
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calorie like cardio was the best workout
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i've done this whole month
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i think so this is funny because we're
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yeah we've been
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sort of trying to encourage ourselves to
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stay active blah blah like everybody has
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their thing that they'll do some people
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uh vin will go one wheeling and there is
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no one wheel workout but it's pretty
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similar mechanically to snowboarding
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yeah for sure so i'll get a snowboarding
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workout notification vin completed a
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snowboarding workout i'm like whoa it's
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like 70 degrees yeah like how's the oh
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right it's the one wheel uh a lot of
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people walk to the train or walk in
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their morning commute they'll do an
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outdoor walk workout
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uh the other day i sat down on the couch
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and i opened up gran turismo and i
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noticed that there is a fitness gaming
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workout i didn't wait i didn't turn it
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on okay i didn't turn it on but you can
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do a gaming workout if you if you play
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an intense enough game oh my god i've
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lost out on so many points yeah you can
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track your heart rate the whole time you
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get a little nice little graph at the
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end and that counts towards exercise
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goal i believe so yeah oh man so that's
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that's a fun one but yeah the dance one
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makes a lot of sense uh i've done a lot
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of
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indoor bike i've done a lot of golf ones
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lately and i have practice tonight and
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there is a disc sports is there really
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there's a disc sports okay workout that
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apple watch will track now it's just
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like it's an apple watch it's on your
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wrist it's not the most scientific thing
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in the world but it is kind of cool that
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it's basically just going to tell you
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your heart rate all the time it's simple
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it pushes you a little bit more um right
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now
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you having practice is pushing me really
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hard because i am somehow in the lead
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with like a week and a half left and
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now that it's guiding nice out and
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you're practicing is really hard
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especially when it's like the end of the
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day and i'm like i don't have to max out
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points and then your like practice
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workout comes in on my watch i was like
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sorry claire i gotta get on the bike
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yeah we always finish practice late too
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so like we have empire practices
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and pony practices at night yeah so
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you'll get you'll get that notification
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at like 10 11 p.m probably yeah i've
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hopped on the bike at 11 p.m a couple
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times also one more tip i love the uh
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braided loops for the solo braided loops
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for the apple watch yeah um but they're
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a hundred bucks
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i got this one on etsy for nine nine
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dollars nine dollars i mean is there a
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quality difference yeah you can feel i
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can show you the one main quality
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difference and that's in
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it's probably very hard to see this but
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it's plastic on the connector on this
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versus metal but like feel these two and
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see if you
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can see if you feel a 90 difference
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between them absolutely not i'm already
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yeah
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it's already the same and you can just
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get like you can get literally nine or
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ten for the same price you got a bunch
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of colors yeah that's the way it gets to
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me
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this was starting to uh
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it stretched out a bit and wasn't
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fitting me quite as well so i was like
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oh i just want this for the challenge
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because it's my favorite band for
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climbing but i'm not gonna spend a
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hundred dollars just because we're doing
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a challenge for a month uh on that but
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yeah
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um nice let's get in to the nothing
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event though because that was
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i'll be honest when i wrote the outline
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for this week's podcast i was like oh
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there's the nothing event on wednesday
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we'll just record right after we're
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going to have a ton of information
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i've never been so mistaken
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this event
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was the
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definition of could have been an email
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oh yeah it was it was great it was so
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first of all it was 15 minutes late i
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blocked off an hour on the calendar for
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it i was like all right it's going to be
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10 a.m to probably 11 a.m they're
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finally gonna announce their next thing
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right
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uh 15 minutes in
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nothing yet
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okay there's gonna be a lot of nothing
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yeah let's get it out of the way yeah
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not a lot happened there during this
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event big nothing burger but it finally
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does start and the whole thing's like 12
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minutes long and they're basically just
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announced that they're going to make a
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phone asked for investment money and
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then dipped
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but the event itself right it was very
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bizarre because there are a lot of
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things that happened that to me felt
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like it felt like the most 2022 like
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crypto like not really
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promising anything that concrete type of
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event there were a couple small things
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that were interesting they're going to
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have a launcher so if you like what
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you've seen we'll be releasing the
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nothing os launcher in april
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and a nothing os that will launch on the
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phone so if you have a different phone
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you can potentially download the nothing
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os launcher on your phone before the
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phone sits out maybe that'll tempt you
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into buying their phone but we didn't
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see the phone we don't know what it will
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look like we just know that they're
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gonna make a phone it's going to come
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out in summer and it's called the
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nothing phone one
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which i thought was also funny because
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the essential phone
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was basically what the essential ph one
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which was just essential phone now
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nothing phone
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one so i guess at least they're getting
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ready to make multiples of them i think
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central never did there's something
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about startups and having to call their
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first phone the one i mean the one plus
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was the one plus one
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ph one the earphones that nothing made
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or the ear one so you know welcome to
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another smartphone company okay so
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here's all the i wanna just go over all
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the weird things about it first they
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mentioned apple i wanna do like a word
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count maybe and find out how many times
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they said apple versus how many times
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they said their own name the ipod the
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iphone apple the first ipod to apple
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apple the macbook the iphone the ipad
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airpods airpods apple remember that
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first iphone launch apple because they
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felt the need to constantly compare
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themselves to apple but then also
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constantly talk about how
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apple is the only choice and that's bad
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because they don't plug in nicely with
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other things so you don't want to be
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like apple yet as soon as you leave that
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ecosystem for a windows pc or an android
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phone it breaks down
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there's no alternative to apple
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this means that consumers don't have a
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choice and innovation slows down and
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that's not right but also our first year
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of sales were just like apple see here's
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apple so they're they're kind of a
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little bit conflicted on how they want
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to
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they just bring up apple any chance you
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know i'll count it and we'll tweet it
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because
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it's pretty easy because the event it's
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only 13 minutes long so i'm pretty sure
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i can count i how many times they said
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apple versus how many times they said
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nothing yeah i don't want to see that
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it's close slightly more in favor of
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nothing but it's pretty close i can tell
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you it's more times than apple mentions
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any other brand in any of their that's a
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100 true because apple pretends no other
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company exists yeah um okay so we got
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the name
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basically the only concrete information
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we got was
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they're going to use a qualcomm chip
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also funny because they they they
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brought that in with um like we are
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nothing
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we feel like we are here to cause change
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to the smartphone industry
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and we're using a qualcomm snapdragon
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chip which
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which is like that's more just funny
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timing on it um but yeah qualcomm chip
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it's obviously android i think we all
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knew that i think that the nothing os is
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clearly it's it's still android it's
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just a skin on it um but they talked a
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lot about how it's going it almost feels
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like
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they're creating
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and this is kind of similar to what
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oneplus did originally with all the
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cyanogenmod stuff on their original
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phones which is like feels like they're
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doing what the enthusiast would want to
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do on
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android phones which is like way quicker
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animations and just like things widgets
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looking better i did like how it goes
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from the lock screen clock and then into
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the regular clock is like perfectly
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matched with each other so it looks
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seamless that's a nice touch yeah yeah i
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hate that on i almost just said what
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phone i have every phone does that they
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move the clock around all the time very
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annoying yeah i kind of got the vibe
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that like carl
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and the team at oneplus
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had a thing going where like they'd
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started with this enthusiast grade thing
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the fast and smooth the
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nicely considered small touches and
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animations
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and then they realized that they were
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building it all
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for oppo and like underneath the company
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and they were like we want to do it
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ourselves so they all left oneplus
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oneplus soul has left its body and it's
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basically just another shell of a
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company underneath that oppo megacorp
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but now a lot of those same people are
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working for this new company called
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nothing and they have the same idea same
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big talk same we're gonna change the
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world stuff but they're starting with
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the enthusiast level
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uh appeal yeah and they went a little so
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it oneplus was flagship killer this
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feels almost more pinpointed at apple
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killer like yeah that's kind of what the
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nothing year ones were like right they
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were
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supposed to be
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the airpods pro right at less than half
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the price yeah which is funny because
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they started off by like name dropping
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like seven of apple's products in a row
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yeah and saying like they made all this
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great ecosystem but as soon as you want
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to leave the ecosystem things get worse
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and there are no like alternative
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ecosystems so apple big bad apple is the
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only option so now we're gonna make our
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own ecosystem just like apple okay great
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so that's happening um but they didn't
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show the phone that the only thing they
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showed was like this weird cryptic
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symbol
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yeah which i was trying to understand i
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want to pull do you have a picture of
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that symbol i can probably pull that up
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it's on nothing.tech right it's
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basically just this like yeah it looks
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like the letter c with a small letter c
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above it and then some dots and dashes
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it kind of looks like a sim card very
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yeah tray remover it's like if um a sim
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card tray remover was like a tech crop
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circle
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like yeah it looks like a a g with an
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upside down lowercase i underneath it a
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c as if like you're imagining actually
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if you're imagining the android
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um
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alien yeah it looks like the top of that
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where the left antenna is a c and the
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right antenna is just a detached antenna
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yeah i don't know what it means
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they didn't tell us what it meant i mean
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i'm guessing this is some sort of a
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symbol for like all the products that
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will be in their eventual ecosystem
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maybe maybe they're going to fill it out
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and add dots and dashes yeah i mean he
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literally said you might not get it just
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yet yeah of course we don't know what it
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means he literally said you probably
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don't get this yet and i like that i'm
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like yeah
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i don't what is it we also learn nothing
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about that i mean i'll be interested to
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see what these all mean and how many of
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them are more just like
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it's just marketing hype that just
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because remember remember oneplus when
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they tried to sell us that they
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purposely put the s on the back of the
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phone in the reflection mm-hmm this
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feels like one of those like the 60 yeah
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i so i have two main questions
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one
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is
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i wonder if they can really pull off a
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transparent looking phone because i
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really like the way the nothing ear one
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earbuds turned out they look pretty good
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i love them they're my favorite earbuds
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i think they're my favorite looking for
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sure maybe not my favorite overall pair
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but i really like what they did
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aesthetically with them i like them for
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some weird reasons mostly just because
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they fit really well in my ears that's a
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perfectly legit reason and i think they
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look fantastic like yeah to me it's um
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i like them because of why a lot of
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people like beets i don't love how beats
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look or the beats logo but i totally
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respect the fact that like as long as
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you're happy with the sound quality and
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how they work looking good is nice i
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love how the ear ones look yeah so my
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question is can they replicate that with
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a phone can they pull that off we've
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seen a couple uh
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transparent ish
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phones like maybe a sliver of the phone
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is transparent or like translucent u12
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one of my videos
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some like stickers have made an
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appearance i think real me
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you know i think xiaomi did the fake
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sticker right yeah i don't want to you
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know speculate too much i'm sure that's
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exactly what nothing wants is just for
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us to go i wonder how good it'll be yeah
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but the other thing is like they are the
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most 2022 company ever just asking for
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money please invest in us please invest
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in us this kind of reminds me actually
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of what we were talking about the other
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week with all the evs unfortunately we
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parade around this idea
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and if you like the idea enough
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invest in the company because the future
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is bright for this idea
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and so the idea that they paraded around
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for 12 minutes in a live stream today
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was we're going to change the world with
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a smartphone and an ecosystem and look
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how similar we are to apple
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who by the way is nothing like us
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they're bad but we're going to change
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the world like apple
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um
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so that's that's how they get people to
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to invest and they've asked for uh 10
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million from the public this time yeah
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and so i just saw something that was
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really funny as you were saying that um
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about the investments so you know how
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they already collected investments off
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the beginning right and then this is
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their second round i think they said
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they're open to up to 10 million dollars
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so when you go to nothing.tech it says
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community investment and then in
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parentheses two as in like the second
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community investment but following the
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one pattern of like parentheses inside
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it so they're literally naming their
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investments like they are their products
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yeah i don't i don't
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i guess you could just keep giving them
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money and getting nothing
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in return yeah i think that's the
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perfect way to end this segment yeah pun
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start on a pun end on a punch end of the
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pun yeah this event could have been an
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email all right yeah for sure we'll take
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a quick break let's come back and talk
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about some actual real products
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be right back
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all right welcome back i know i said i
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was going to talk about uh real products
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for a second but i just want to open
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real quick because i got distracted by
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twitter you know how randomly you'll get
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like trending twitter topics that are
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just like a random word because there's
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just the perfect storm of things about
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it like apple products tweet or apple
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products trend all the time for no
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reason because people are just talking
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about apple products uh i have tiger on
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my trending right now and it's under
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sports and there are three separate
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stories as reasons why tiger is trending
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right is one of them that new netflix
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show with barack obama
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that's what i would immediately jump to
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no because that's been trending a lot my
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hint is that it's under sports
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even though that's only one of the
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stories all of them all three only one
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of them are that so the word tiger is
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trending under sports and that's because
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uh the masters is coming up and the
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other week the pga tour put out a list
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of so if you win the masters you're
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invited back for life okay and tiger
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woods has not played in a while since
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ever since he had like that car accident
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and the pga tour put out a list of
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previous champions who will not be
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playing this year and tiger's not on
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that list and everyone went
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oh he's tiger is he is he back is he
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gonna play in the masters and so the
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entire
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uh golf universe is waiting for the
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announcement of whether he'll play or
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not that might be out by the time this
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episode comes out and then i just
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clicked on that expecting to see a bunch
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of tiger tweets and i also see a tweet
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of there's a random tiger at a zoo fan
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cam that just reached a million views
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and there's a bbc article about an
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escaped tiger from a zoo that turned out
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to just be a plush toy
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so all those things combined on my
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timeline today to trend the word tiger
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twitter is a magical place love love me
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some tweets yeah uh anyway let's talk
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about mac studio and studio display
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real products our real reviews are out
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yeah i'm very happy with uh those
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reviews and like the time we put into
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them and the final results which one you
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want to talk about first
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let's just go
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i
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i like the studio display talk more but
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let's just start off with studio mac
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because i think that's like the
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powerhouse but the the display has just
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like a ton
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surrounding it but this is just the
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product and these are just kind of like
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our final thoughts on this obviously go
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check out both videos if you're
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interested in it um definitely also like
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studio mac we made a really killer robot
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intro which i'm sure everyone loves even
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if you hate apple it's totally worth
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watching great videos yeah in my opinion
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i am a little biased
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i think they're good uh okay so the
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computer so it turns out it's a good
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computer wow
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there's not a lot to hate on because a
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lot of people
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typically will find a reason to say how
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there's nothing really new here with
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this computer right a lot of the uh the
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classic apple hating
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community will just say ah it's just a
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rebranded blah blah it's just a bigger
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mac mini whatever it's not that big of a
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deal that's a um rough thought i think
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right but it is it is a really good
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computer and apple silicon is doing its
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thing it has i o it's got great cooling
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it's got great performance and they
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genuinely did something
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really new and really good which is in
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m1 ultra which is fusing
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two chips together with a high enough
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bandwidth that the system sees it as one
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chip like the more articles and talking
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about this that i see like that's
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that's what sli was
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trying to be that's what like was it
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crossfire amd crossfire or whatever it
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was called
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like you would get two gpus and you get
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a little bridge card yeah and you
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connect them and you'd have twice the
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power but they weren't really acting
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like twice the gpu your system would
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have to see that there's two gpus and
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then decide to split up the tasks
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between the gpus
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and apple's given us twice the gpu cores
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it's twice the everything that's the
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theme of the review yeah but yeah the
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system sees it as one powerful chip and
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that translates really well for
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performance and the benefit here is
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because apple's doing it and with what
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we see with a lot of apple products are
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when you make all of the components
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they're insanely compatible with each
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other and the efficiency between them is
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really really good so you're just like
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sli would have to be probably connected
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to you know
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nvidia gpus connecting to an intel chip
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or an amd chip this is just
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all of apple's stuff on to more apple
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things connected all sharing memory
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bandwidth super high between all the
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parts it's awesome it's great yeah my
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my question at the end of the day for me
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is all right they made a computer called
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the mac studio guess what we run a video
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studio is this the new computer that
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i'll be editing on at my desk that's
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that's kind of the question at the
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beginning when they announced it it's
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like is this the new mac pro yeah or is
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this just a really powerful
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small mac on the desktop
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and
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as soon as it was announced i i
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immediately ordered the highest end spec
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mac studio anticipating that it would
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end up replacing my mac pro
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and i think technically it can
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i'm just not sure that i'm going to yet
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i'm not sure do you have there's a
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couple reasons yeah
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one we're still waiting for the new mac
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pro
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but i don't know how soon we're gonna
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get that new mac pro not that there's
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any like problem with my current mac pro
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aging i'm just obsessed with performance
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and getting the last couple bit of games
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out of it that i can like the the ipad
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air review it was chugging when i was
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editing that at the beginning i had too
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many plug-ins and it was just like i'd
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move something across the screen and it
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would just be beach ball for 30 seconds
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and i'd have to wait for stuff i'm just
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ready for better performance right so
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the mac pro i'm convinced we'll for sure
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offer that
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but i don't we don't know when it's
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coming out maybe announced at wwdc and
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then shipping in
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later in the year that's the optimistic
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view is what i'm leaving that at not
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sure when that's coming out
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so
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we saw this machine and early
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apple charts indicated it would
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outperform the mac pro
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and i looked at all the i o and i said
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okay i've got these two thunderbolt
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monitors i've got thunderbolt raid array
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i've got the dac and all this stuff and
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the mac studio supports all of it and it
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can be on top of my desk so i don't have
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cables hanging behind it and it seems
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like this is a good replacement but when
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we got the machine in the test
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it did not beat the mac pro that i've
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been using at a lot of the things i was
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expecting slash hoping it to
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uh specifically editing
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like there's some something about having
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768 gigs of ram that just lets me load
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audio waveforms in faster and like keep
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the timeline going a little longer
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and the export the export was faster on
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the on the intel mac pro again 28 cores
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just turned through i think the export
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was uh they were very close it was like
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a minute faster yeah they're both fast
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but i was just noticing it's not
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actually
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crushing but then i'm still tempted
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because it's apple silicon and i just
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want to get our workflow on apple
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silicon ahead of time yeah all the apps
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that i use now at this point i think
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discord just got updated like all of
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this stuff is now
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optimized for apple silicon like this is
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going to be a better more efficient
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workflow so i'm just
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i'm kind of torn i still have the
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machine coming in but i don't know if i
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need to switch to it maybe that can be
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an editor's computer maybe that could be
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something else but i think yeah i'm
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still
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gonna keep intel mac pro for now so
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while you're still keeping that i think
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what is really really cool about this is
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how much did you pay for
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maxed out version that's a good point uh
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it was about 45 grand
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for the mac pro for the max studio it
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was eight grand yeah eight grand okay so
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those of you out there who
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did not want to spend 40 000 could not
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spend 40 000 on a mac pro but still are
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doing
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big resolution files and doing a lot of
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editing like more than enough look at
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that you're at a
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fifth of the price at this more so like
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those people should be super super happy
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and really really excited for this and
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i mean form factor comparison like is
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it's huge that a different self that was
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the conclusion basically i got to was
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like this is more computer than you
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probably think you need yeah like if
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you're like they showed it in studios
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with like photography studios where
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people were like editing
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a raw file from the r5 and pixelmator
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it's like you don't need this much
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computer to do that yeah this is gonna
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crush that i mean you could be future
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proofing and you're future proofing at
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way less money at that point absolutely
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true yeah absolutely true but you know
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the m1 mac mini will do
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that exact workflow really well so yeah
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your your head room for days if you get
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this sli 2 mac minis oh god that's kind
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of what just happened it's just m1 m1
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ultra uh so yeah nothing but good things
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really to say about that computer even
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though i might not be swapping it out
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for my main you're not swapping but for
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people out there looking the
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price to performance ratio versus the
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mac pro is destroying it yeah and also
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size to performance if you're someone
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who likes a neat desk because
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i would say the one way to potentially
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get you to switch to it is if you keep
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looking at your desk and seeing all the
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wires that have to run to the ground it
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just means a lot i'm finally sick of
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this and i'm tired of people commenting
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about it so i want to actually have
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everything on my head getting my cables
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roasted yeah it would fit right under
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both of your xtr displays perfectly
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right and that could make things look
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real nice and clean on there but um yeah
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yeah that little tiny bit i mean when
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you're playing with variables like
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plug-ins and all different audio and
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like all the stuff that we're doing at
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the same time um you really
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appreciate that little bit of power you
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get out of out of the old one yeah so so
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far the 28 core dual vega 2 duo
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768 gig mac pro is hanging on yeah over
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the brand new
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small mac studio but yeah that's you
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know good computer they also announced a
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display with it
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plus less positive things
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with the display now i was really happy
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with the way i was able to put together
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this review it's a very unusual product
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i think is where this all started
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it's called the studio
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and i think
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the main
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problem with its positioning
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is it is well this has happened before
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with apple products but it doesn't
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really match up to anything if they want
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to call it the studio then it should be
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a high-end panel with uh background back
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backlight zone dimming it should have
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different you should have mini led
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probably maybe it'll have pro pro motion
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it's got to do something in the high end
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if it's going to be a studio monitor
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funny enough though i
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um
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based on their other
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naming schemes and products
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i actually think it fits perfectly where
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it is
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okay
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so my reason basically is is i think the
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monitor for the mac pro right now
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is the pro display xdr correct i don't
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know if studio is their full
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pro thing because they say they're
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coming out with another mac pro
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studio feels like the
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slightly smaller version but still like
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prosumer
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okay cheaper commercial i'll clarify
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okay i i think you're right it it has to
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be underneath the mac the underneath the
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pro product with this which is the pro
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display xdr it doesn't get low enough
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okay okay so when you get so it's
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sixteen hundred dollars with non-height
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adjustable stand you add the height
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adjust now it's two thousand dollars
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yeah um you add nano texture and now
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it's twenty three hundred dollars
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exactly this monitor isn't
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necessarily a better panel for a lot of
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people's uses
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but it does certain things really well
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that certain people are gonna love no
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matter what the price is right and that
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was a challenge for the review can i say
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the one thing it does the best which you
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said this morning that i i loved
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the naming and at first i was like oh
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it's just studio display but look at
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every other
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monitor's name out there please
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everybody else follow a factor like this
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i
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cannot tell you the name of both of the
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monitors on my desk at home because
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they're both like asus
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tuff vs248
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qg or something like that and i have
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absolutely no idea and whenever anybody
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asks me it takes me 10 minutes to find
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my past order and think of what it was
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the the two that i compared it to in the
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video were the lg ultrafine 5k not bad
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then the dell ultra sharp u2820q
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not a great name bad
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so studio display is very easy to
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remember rolls off the tongue but yeah i
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guess my challenge was like
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yo this is not a great deal for most
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people who are cross shopping but the
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the thing that this is designed for is
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for people who are not cross shopping
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they were just looking for a better mac
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monitor it just works with plug and play
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it has a webcam and speakers built in
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the speakers happen to be very good in
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my opinion if you're into built-in
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speakers you don't want to have extras
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that's great you don't even have to
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think about it the webcam not that great
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but whatever it's a webcam most people
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don't have a huge investment in how good
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the built-in webcam quality is even
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though i was expecting better
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um and
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there's a huge world of monitors out
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there
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that just don't work that well with the
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mac i reviewed the lg ultrafine 5k i had
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to look back it was five years ago
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and the thing
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it had it was made of plastic it had
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these weird shielding issues with wi-fi
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which is never hilarious very strange
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but then also just like plug and play
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sometimes it would just not wake up when
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i'd wake the mac up the the mac mini i
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plugged it into would wake up and then
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lg ultrafine would stay asleep and i'd
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have to restart the mac mini to get the
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monitor to light up like all these weird
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little quirks that people have been
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dealing with with monitors for a long
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time
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and you get one from apple you know it's
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just like all right plug and play it's
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just gonna be fine yeah and there isn't
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really a price for that
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unless your apple what you say okay
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that's worth
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sixteen hundred dollars
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and so the way i reviewed it was
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i mean you can watch the video but to
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summarize it was like all right is this
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a good deal
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it's 5k
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27 inch 600 nits
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p3 color
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60hz lcd
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if you want to do like a comp of like
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let's say you're a real estate agent and
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you're like how much is this house worth
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all right i'm gonna find another house
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with the same number of bedrooms and
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square feet and in the same location and
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then
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the price of that with the same finishes
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is probably the same this is the other
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that other house so i'll find another
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monitor with the same specs the closest
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one is the lg ultrafine 5k
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that's like yeah you get really close on
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paper but i don't want that monitor yeah
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like it's not as good of an experience
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so
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at the end of the video i said look
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is the rolls-royce ghost
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a good deal
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because it's the only
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four-door sedan with suicide doors with
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a 6.7 liter v12 that's under 400 grand
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there's two by the way just like the
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monitors there's one that's 400 grand
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and one this one is 300 grand the nano
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textured rolls-royce exactly is that a
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good deal
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no
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but if that's what you want yeah
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then it doesn't really matter that like
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a chrysler 300 is a better deal
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because i want the one with the thing
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and i did the same thing with the shoes
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like all right is the i think adam had
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this idea like are the nike hyper adapts
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a good deal
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i want self-lacing shoes that's that's
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all i really care about yeah well okay
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but the jordan ones are a better deal
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they're only only 130 bucks yeah but i
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want to do the thing yeah yeah and
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they're 300 bucks it doesn't make it a
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good deal
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apple will notoriously find a way to
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charge more for something like they did
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with this
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the conclusion is it's not a great deal
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but it's a good monitor for a lot of
00:32:15
people and they're going to get it and
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they're going to like it yeah you're
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you're allowed to like things that
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aren't good deals it happens exactly all
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the time a 30 90 is not a good deal but
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like sometimes you want that i mean
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maybe that's performance wise you know
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you are you can perfectly compare it to
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something lower than that but like
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in this sense if you want this if you
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see the studio display monitor
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and are like
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i i love everything about that i love
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how it looks i love how the build
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quality is on it i love the
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compatibility with my apple products
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like everything on this i really want 5k
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over 4k for some reason i mean the
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reason is actually kind of substantial i
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might have downplayed it a bit works
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really well with the scaling so it's
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exactly twice the resolution of 2560 by
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1440 so the scaling doesn't have to do
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anything wonky okay and 5k is almost
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double the pixel count of 4k so 3120 by
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14 whatever the the actual number of
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pixels you get so you can edit a native
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4k video and have ui around it okay a
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lot of stuff like that there's not that
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many 5k monitors but that is pretty nice
00:33:21
that's a pixel level comparability wise
00:33:22
it's so but so like if that is your
00:33:24
thing if this if this all fits in it
00:33:26
you can buy that and you can love it
00:33:29
and it doesn't matter that it's a bad if
00:33:31
it's not like a good deal like there's
00:33:33
not a single person the biggest person
00:33:36
who loves that thing i don't think is
00:33:37
sitting there and being like
00:33:39
man i really pulled one over on apple
00:33:41
and like i really got a good a good deal
00:33:44
here i hate saying the word a million
00:33:46
times but that's totally fine a lot of
00:33:48
times products feature is the fact that
00:33:50
it's really a good bargain for the money
00:33:53
this is the apple specialty that's just
00:33:54
not what this one is but it has
00:33:56
everything else so that's awesome yeah
00:33:58
this is the apple specialty if you ever
00:34:00
ask somebody who buys actually probably
00:34:01
the telltale sign to know if an apple
00:34:04
product is for you or not is the second
00:34:06
you start cross shopping and seriously
00:34:08
considering other products you probably
00:34:10
know this one's not for you yeah like if
00:34:12
you look into you're like you know what
00:34:14
i think i need a new monitor i wonder
00:34:16
which one i'm gonna get let's compare
00:34:17
the studio display with x immediately
00:34:19
you're gonna find like okay the fact i'm
00:34:22
even considering these other monitors
00:34:23
means i'm not sick of them which means
00:34:25
i'll probably get a better deal and i'll
00:34:26
just go with the one that's a third of
00:34:28
the price yeah but if you're just oh man
00:34:30
i've had all these other monitors and
00:34:31
apple just released this monitor that's
00:34:33
just made for apple products i'm just
00:34:35
going to get this one
00:34:36
that's the type of person that apple's
00:34:38
aiming for and i think they nailed that
00:34:40
i do really think the real estate
00:34:42
reference was probably the best analogy
00:34:44
here because like i just remember
00:34:45
looking for for houses it's like you
00:34:48
want
00:34:49
this many bedrooms like bedrooms
00:34:51
bathrooms square footage that's all
00:34:53
super obvious but then we were looking
00:34:54
at things like fenced in yard
00:34:57
over an acre of property under two acres
00:34:58
of property like very specific things
00:35:01
and then the comparables get less less
00:35:02
less and then you're like oh here's two
00:35:04
houses in these price ranges
00:35:08
what but like they they have totally
00:35:10
different things in them and it's just
00:35:12
like eventually you're like okay that's
00:35:14
the one it's more money but it has every
00:35:16
single thing that we want and we're just
00:35:18
gonna move into it we're gonna be really
00:35:19
happy about it yeah yeah let's say even
00:35:21
if this monitor was uh
00:35:22
1300 let's say it's the same price as
00:35:24
the lg ultrafine 5k yeah there's still
00:35:26
going to be people who would never
00:35:28
consider the lg yeah so
00:35:31
fine so apple can charge a little bit
00:35:33
for that
00:35:34
but yeah that's those are the two
00:35:35
products they're both studio products i
00:35:37
think every time now that now that we've
00:35:38
done the reviews
00:35:40
i'm still left in like what will this
00:35:42
mac pro be can i say one more thing
00:35:44
about it yeah my biggest gripe about it
00:35:47
um
00:35:48
like i know apple loves to do the thing
00:35:50
of where vesta mount visa mount i i'm
00:35:52
never quite sure if i'm pronouncing that
00:35:54
um is
00:35:55
like extra or it's not extra but it's an
00:35:57
at you can't have the stand and then
00:35:59
detach it and have that my biggest gripe
00:36:01
about it is that it's not centered on
00:36:02
the monitor so a lot of people were
00:36:04
talking about screen rotation no it's
00:36:06
like down low like an imac it's probably
00:36:08
on like the bottom quarter bottom third
00:36:11
okay um so the hinge is towards the
00:36:12
bottom where when it's vest amount i'm
00:36:15
not sure
00:36:16
how well that would hold up on like a
00:36:19
rotating arm if you did it
00:36:21
it would probably be fine but there's
00:36:23
always going to be that little
00:36:25
imbalance or like different center of
00:36:27
gravity because you're pulling from
00:36:29
like a third down it or now
00:36:32
rotated a third to the side of it i mean
00:36:35
that might be something you get used to
00:36:36
the build quality is really good so i'm
00:36:38
sure yeah but like if you took that
00:36:40
plastic lg ultra fine and held it from
00:36:43
like a bottom corner of that i feel like
00:36:45
that would be creaking and like really
00:36:47
pulling on some parts of the frame that
00:36:48
wouldn't hold up very well yeah that's
00:36:50
even one of the things the the build
00:36:52
quality of this monitor is its biggest
00:36:54
pro and its biggest con it's so weird
00:36:57
the hinge
00:36:58
yeah like okay first of all everything
00:37:00
is it's metal it's got these sharp
00:37:02
corners like most monitors are plastic
00:37:05
so right off the bat it's like built
00:37:06
really well the hinge is incredibly well
00:37:09
balanced if you get the height
00:37:10
adjustment which is 400 extra dollars
00:37:13
yeah it it height adjusts really stably
00:37:15
it doesn't rotate which actually makes
00:37:17
it feel more stable than the pro display
00:37:19
xdr which is a thousand dollar stand um
00:37:21
but the downsides are like it's fixed so
00:37:24
whichever one you get you can't use your
00:37:26
upgrade you have to send it to apple if
00:37:28
you want to change it out
00:37:29
and two the power cable that whole
00:37:32
debacle it's it's not designed to be
00:37:35
removed yeah
00:37:37
even though you can
00:37:39
pull really hard and rip it out the back
00:37:42
we had a review unit you're not supposed
00:37:43
to
00:37:44
damage these things when you have review
00:37:46
units lionesses lots of people bought
00:37:48
them and like pulled really hard and you
00:37:50
can eventually rip it out the back but
00:37:52
that's how you can tell you're not
00:37:53
supposed to like a normal monitor what
00:37:54
happens you just pull it right out the
00:37:56
back and it's fine um and so somebody
00:37:58
found that there's a
00:37:59
tool that you can use that you're
00:38:01
supposed to use i don't even know is
00:38:02
this an apple tool or something that
00:38:04
people are supposed to buy i don't know
00:38:05
i think it's probably an internal apple
00:38:06
tool but that literally like you wrap
00:38:08
the cable around it and like twist and
00:38:10
it pushes up
00:38:12
leverage to pull rip the cable out the
00:38:14
back
00:38:15
yeah it's it's weird you're not designed
00:38:18
to upgrade it and that's
00:38:19
like let's say you have a cat chewing on
00:38:21
the cable you have to now replace the
00:38:23
entire monitor i did see a lot of people
00:38:25
saying what difference does that make
00:38:27
and
00:38:28
i agree and disagree there are instances
00:38:30
like that you can fray a wire you can i
00:38:33
mean especially if you have like you
00:38:35
know sometimes when your desk is pushed
00:38:37
up too close to the outlet so you're
00:38:38
like jamming a plug in there now it's
00:38:40
almost at a right angle and you're just
00:38:42
gonna the wire is gonna start fraying or
00:38:44
if you're in a professional setting
00:38:46
where like it has to move computers
00:38:48
around a lot or move desks like
00:38:51
moving a monitor where the cable is
00:38:53
hanging or you have to like wrap it up
00:38:55
is it's just more difficult it's so much
00:38:57
easier when you just pull all the cables
00:38:58
out toss them in a box
00:39:00
move the tower and monitor and then put
00:39:02
all the cables back in yeah and even if
00:39:04
you never
00:39:06
even if you never
00:39:07
have to deal with the cable again or
00:39:09
damage it for a lot of people it's still
00:39:10
a man it's still a matter of principle
00:39:13
like yeah really you're gonna make the
00:39:15
monitor like you're gonna lock it in and
00:39:17
not let me replace it if i want
00:39:19
that
00:39:20
you know made a lot of people
00:39:21
disappointed but
00:39:22
yeah to me personally i'm like all right
00:39:24
that's that's just another thing apple
00:39:26
can do and that's a very thing that only
00:39:28
apple would do yep um but there it is
00:39:32
that's the studio display
00:39:34
i would recommend
00:39:35
not getting the nano texture if you
00:39:37
don't need it it is incredibly hard to
00:39:38
clean that's the one that's noticed yeah
00:39:41
my xdr
00:39:42
makes me we are we all got the nano
00:39:44
textures because we live we we shoot in
00:39:47
this very bright
00:39:48
very well-lit studio and it really does
00:39:51
a great job of getting rid of
00:39:52
reflections but if you like
00:39:55
drag an eyelash across the thing it
00:39:57
leaves a huge mark and
00:39:59
it's pretty hard cleaning supplies and
00:40:01
the cloth you need the special cloth it
00:40:03
still doesn't always work mine looks
00:40:04
like i sneeze on it every day that's not
00:40:07
great so that's a if you're considering
00:40:09
getting it that's my little pro tip
00:40:11
um all right let's take a quick break
00:40:13
we've got a reveal
00:40:14
to do
00:40:15
of a little phone that's just out of
00:40:17
frame here so let's come right back and
00:40:19
do that that's just for my
00:40:23
[Music]
00:40:32
all right welcome back um
00:40:34
last episode if you stuck around till
00:40:36
the end we kind of mentioned how me
00:40:38
upgrading my phone has turned almost
00:40:40
into a meme on this uh on the channel
00:40:43
and i finally upgraded so we posted a
00:40:46
twitter poll
00:40:48
to see we're gonna do the reveal in a
00:40:49
minute but we posted a poll to see what
00:40:51
everyone thought
00:40:52
and
00:40:53
it
00:40:54
was fascinating because it's the one of
00:40:56
the closest polls i think i've ever seen
00:40:57
on twitter at least in terms of one with
00:40:59
four options we gave four options the
00:41:01
lowest is 23 and a half percent and the
00:41:04
highest is
00:41:05
crazy with 2200 votes too so like not
00:41:08
just a couple votes like that's close so
00:41:10
no one knows what phone you've picked
00:41:11
they don't
00:41:12
they don't um but we we put a little
00:41:15
thought into this poll um so the choices
00:41:17
were that iphone 13 got 23
00:41:20
pixel 6 got 28
00:41:22
s22 ultra or we just put s22 um got 25
00:41:27
and s21 ultra 24
00:41:29
so like you know pixel i talk about all
00:41:32
the time i'm coming from a pixel 4 xl
00:41:34
iphone 13. i think i have constantly
00:41:37
mentioned wanting to switch to ios but i
00:41:39
hate how many icons are on the home page
00:41:42
and that still is a thing
00:41:44
s22 i was really digging um and then the
00:41:47
s21 ultra we talked about how good of a
00:41:49
deal it was
00:41:50
um much unlike this studio display but
00:41:54
um we talked a lot about how going back
00:41:56
a year flagship it was still such a good
00:41:58
phone um
00:42:00
and those choices yeah like we said
00:42:02
really close 23 28 25 24
00:42:06
all right on top of each other and i got
00:42:08
a lot of tags uh as to telling me why a
00:42:11
lot of people saw the apple watch we
00:42:12
mentioned earlier right this is for the
00:42:15
fitnesses challenge there is an iphone
00:42:18
11 here but this is just but that's
00:42:20
strictly so you can use the apple watch
00:42:22
for the fitness channel strictly so i
00:42:23
can tell everybody that i'm winning the
00:42:25
challenges okay so it's not the iphone
00:42:26
13 then it is not okay
00:42:29
are you ready i am ready you know what
00:42:31
it is i have seen it already but are
00:42:33
they ready
00:42:34
there it is
00:42:35
pixel six for our audio listeners that
00:42:37
is a sea foam green yeah i went sort of
00:42:41
seafoam sort of c phone pixel six
00:42:43
okay so you've had this for a couple
00:42:45
days now it's shiny about it you had a
00:42:47
case on it it came
00:42:49
yeah i do i i i'm a case person yeah um
00:42:52
it came
00:42:53
the night after we recorded the last
00:42:55
podcast which is when i wanted to just
00:42:56
talk about it but this wound up being
00:42:57
kind of fun so oh god um so how have you
00:43:00
enjoyed it so far because i i actually
00:43:02
i'll just mention this right now i've
00:43:03
been using the s21 ultra since january
00:43:06
of last year it's been like a year and
00:43:08
change and i just again put my sim card
00:43:10
back in the pixel 6 pro
00:43:12
i'm using the march update
00:43:14
so far
00:43:15
so good it still has a little bit of
00:43:17
hiccups compared to the s21 ultra we'll
00:43:19
see how long this lasts but i'm curious
00:43:21
how you're enjoying the pixel
00:43:23
6 experience we're pixel brothers now
00:43:26
yeah same idea
00:43:28
yeah um yeah so i want regular six
00:43:30
obviously a bit cheaper um to be fair
00:43:34
biggest things i wanted were my pixel
00:43:36
4xl is just getting towards the end of
00:43:38
its life i think i had some screen
00:43:39
damage which was causing a bunch of
00:43:41
accidental touches all the time and i
00:43:43
had things like just completely closing
00:43:45
on me or like random buttons getting
00:43:47
touched whenever um so i just needed to
00:43:50
make the upgrade just for this needing
00:43:52
to upgrade from an old phone um
00:43:55
i think the two biggest things with me
00:43:56
and why i picked it is
00:43:58
i'm dying for an ultra wide camera i
00:44:00
feel like the activities that i do like
00:44:02
climbing in outdoors ultra wide is so
00:44:05
much more fun super useful um and the
00:44:06
pixel 4 xl did not have that yeah and
00:44:09
then for me
00:44:11
and my laziness i think the ease of just
00:44:15
going from pixel to pixel same operating
00:44:17
system same feature set all like i was
00:44:20
running android 12 on my pixel 4 xl
00:44:22
already it was the most seamless
00:44:24
transition between the two of them
00:44:26
um that coupled along with a good
00:44:28
trade-in uh
00:44:30
system did you get a better price than
00:44:32
the s22 would have cost
00:44:34
it's worth the s20 i think if i had
00:44:38
the uh like if you have a bunch of
00:44:40
backup phones samsung lets you trade in
00:44:41
two phones pixel only lets you trade in
00:44:43
one oh wow which is really awesome
00:44:46
i still i just traded in one though and
00:44:48
because of the the things i mentioned
00:44:50
that's why i think you probably sam's
00:44:52
samsung seems to always be the best deal
00:44:54
you can get they're trying to get you
00:44:55
out they're so good at trying i like
00:44:57
saving you money on all that um but yeah
00:44:59
so a couple thoughts so far
00:45:02
um yeah let's hear it did i get my
00:45:04
review right did you know you want to
00:45:06
see if there's we loved it we loved the
00:45:07
pixels
00:45:10
one of my it was it was basically our
00:45:11
quote budget phone of the year yeah
00:45:13
maybe not maybe not budget but value
00:45:14
phone of the year screen i dig 90 hertz
00:45:17
is fine um
00:45:18
totally fine with that flat edges i
00:45:20
think it looks good um i put it in a
00:45:22
case i have the dbrand grip case because
00:45:24
like
00:45:25
i really like this wait wait show the
00:45:26
icons show the icon
00:45:28
skin there it is all black so it's
00:45:30
probably really hard to see but um
00:45:33
dbrand.com
00:45:35
icons come on icons something like that
00:45:37
uh i should really know that
00:45:39
um
00:45:40
so
00:45:41
while i've really liked it i love the
00:45:43
ultrawide i love how that's just
00:45:44
basically everything that i had already
00:45:46
it doesn't it feels like i barely
00:45:47
switched which i love um
00:45:50
i have two gripes so far i want to guess
00:45:53
what they are okay fingerprint reader
00:45:55
yes slow and slightly inconsistent
00:45:59
more just slow so i can't compare it
00:46:02
that way because i didn't have i was
00:46:04
using face id because the 4xl had solely
00:46:07
even though i disabled all the solely
00:46:08
stuff face id would still work because i
00:46:11
and i've set it on this i hate solely i
00:46:13
hated when my phone would wake up when
00:46:15
my hand went near it the amount of times
00:46:17
my phone would just wake up all the time
00:46:18
and then i would look at it and then it
00:46:20
would unlock
00:46:21
and ask
00:46:22
manage it's so frustrating to
00:46:25
accidentally swipe a song in your car
00:46:27
when you're just like reaching into the
00:46:28
passenger seat for something i mean like
00:46:30
that's usually where my taco bell is i
00:46:32
want to listen to my songs and just eat
00:46:34
my taco bell stop but anyways this is my
00:46:36
first in-display fingerprint reader i
00:46:38
really miss face unlock on my 4xl i
00:46:41
loved it it felt really seamless i know
00:46:44
even with the masks but like usually
00:46:46
only wearing the mask like the grocery
00:46:47
store and when i'm out at home it felt
00:46:49
really easy um it does feel kind of slow
00:46:52
because i'm only comparing it to my old
00:46:54
like pixel 3 back face compared to every
00:46:56
phone okay yeah um and just like
00:46:59
when i'm working out and sweaty if i'm
00:47:02
climbing and i have chalk on my hands if
00:47:03
i'm outside and there's dirt if i'm
00:47:05
doing yard work and stuff like that it's
00:47:07
clearly going to affect that which i
00:47:10
don't love um
00:47:12
so
00:47:13
i don't like that that much okay that's
00:47:15
one that's one and i even um
00:47:18
wasn't gonna say oh yeah i was when i
00:47:20
was reviewing the ipad air i noticed i
00:47:22
couldn't tell if it was me being spoiled
00:47:25
or
00:47:26
just really getting used to face id
00:47:27
because on i've used the ipad pro a lot
00:47:29
and with the ipad pro you tap the screen
00:47:31
it lights up and you swipe up and it's
00:47:33
already look at your face yeah with the
00:47:34
ipad air it's got the fingerprint reader
00:47:37
and you can get really used to the
00:47:38
fingerprint reader just like you'll get
00:47:40
really used to this fingerprint reader
00:47:41
but there's just something about it just
00:47:42
like looking at your face and it doesn't
00:47:43
matter what's on your hands yep so
00:47:45
that's one thing okay the other thing
00:47:46
yeah two things i got really into sorry
00:47:48
just like
00:47:49
pulling my phone up power button and
00:47:51
then just it's already open yeah yeah i
00:47:52
love that okay that's fair second thing
00:47:55
is is it your
00:47:57
i don't think it's your battery yet you
00:47:58
haven't had it long enough maybe uh
00:48:01
cameras are is it um
00:48:03
is it the cameras being a little too
00:48:06
processed hdre i don't mind that okay
00:48:09
i'm fine with that okay
00:48:10
you were kind of right so
00:48:13
i'm gonna preemptively say it it was
00:48:15
battery but i figured out why it was
00:48:17
battery and that problem has been fixed
00:48:19
so okay i like i mentioned before i was
00:48:22
at the wedding all weekend so like not a
00:48:24
lot of time to keep it on the charger
00:48:25
which i usually do um and i came from a
00:48:27
pixel 4 xl which is not known for its
00:48:29
battery life at all so anything should
00:48:31
have been an upgrade yet i found myself
00:48:34
over the weekend just
00:48:36
being lower than i would like i mean i
00:48:39
feel like there's people who
00:48:41
are are like this battery life is great
00:48:42
and when they go to bed and it's at 20
00:48:44
like hell yeah i made it the whole day
00:48:46
probably it probably would have been
00:48:47
that but if it's under fifty percent for
00:48:49
me i'm like stressing usually like
00:48:52
you would not like it to be down that
00:48:54
low that's funny um but i also noticed
00:48:56
5g was on the whole time despite not
00:48:58
feeling any benefits of that yeah turn
00:49:00
5g off and it's been way better
00:49:04
then so i just feel like that should be
00:49:06
something you should do um
00:49:09
unless you're somehow in a place where
00:49:11
5g is super beneficial
00:49:12
i would just turn that off you know
00:49:14
what's funny i have this i have this new
00:49:16
thing like i when i test a phone i daily
00:49:18
drive it and i i always have this thing
00:49:20
where i put on
00:49:22
waze and i navigate to work and have
00:49:23
this like half hour 40 minute drive and
00:49:25
there's a spot
00:49:27
right when i'm getting on the parkway
00:49:28
where i always lose service
00:49:30
and
00:49:32
it's become like a game of like how far
00:49:34
down the highway will i get before
00:49:36
service comes back so it'll be 5g and
00:49:39
then i'll roll into over this hill and i
00:49:41
always lose service right past this gas
00:49:42
station i'll go past the light and i'll
00:49:45
get onto the highway
00:49:46
and with the pixel 6 well i had been
00:49:49
using the s21 ultra
00:49:50
and it would always indicate probably
00:49:52
within about
00:49:54
300 yards it'll be back on lte and then
00:49:57
eventually would find 5g again
00:49:59
this the pixel 6 pro this morning it
00:50:02
drops service like it usually does right
00:50:04
where it's supposed to
00:50:05
and then it took like
00:50:06
an extra like thousand yards to pick up
00:50:09
lte again and another like half a mile
00:50:12
to pick 5g back up again and i just
00:50:14
noticed
00:50:15
i don't know if that's a an indicator
00:50:17
overall of the signal strength from the
00:50:19
pixel but i feel like we did see signal
00:50:20
strength complaints where like if you
00:50:22
have low signal it's gonna hurt your
00:50:24
battery and the pixel doesn't have a
00:50:26
great like antenna and so if you turn 5g
00:50:29
off and have it stop searching for 5g
00:50:31
all the time it'll probably help your
00:50:32
battery a lot yeah i think like like i
00:50:35
said
00:50:35
there i mean and there's plenty of cases
00:50:37
where if you're on 5g you're potentially
00:50:38
getting worse speeds than lte yeah
00:50:41
trying to upgrade pump you off of the
00:50:43
crowded lte bands what do you what
00:50:45
carrier are you on t-mobile t-mobile is
00:50:47
there 5g like anywhere that you go on
00:50:49
t-mobile i feel like they're maybe one
00:50:51
of the they have mid-band 5g they were
00:50:53
one of the first to do
00:50:55
like
00:50:56
is it ultra wide 5g i'm completely
00:50:59
blanking right the blanket coverage yeah
00:51:00
or the millimeter yeah the black like no
00:51:02
they do not do i don't think they do
00:51:04
millimeters yeah we did the video about
00:51:05
um t-mobile's mid-band 5g they're like
00:51:08
pretty well rolled out yeah i think they
00:51:10
were one of the first to do it so i and
00:51:12
i was in a the wedding was in a town
00:51:14
that was like pretty popular so like
00:51:16
okay all wedding 5g and like i noticed
00:51:19
it because it's not something that's
00:51:20
shown on my phone before so it's new to
00:51:21
me right like i was always like oh 5g 5g
00:51:24
oh
00:51:26
60
00:51:27
50
00:51:28
it's like it's two o'clock in the
00:51:30
afternoon like you're not using data or
00:51:31
like downloading it wasn't doing much
00:51:33
yeah so yeah i mean like listen i'm sure
00:51:36
i'm
00:51:37
100 positive it would have lasted the
00:51:39
full day with no charge
00:51:40
yeah but it was stressing me out fair
00:51:42
yeah fair so funny it reminds me of my
00:51:44
dad who's uh his old iphone have i told
00:51:47
this already i got him a new phone he uh
00:51:49
he had like an iphone 6s plus or a 6s or
00:51:53
something like that and uh i think it
00:51:55
was thanksgiving he showed me his phone
00:51:57
like plummet from like 17 to 80 battery
00:52:00
in like three minutes and i was like
00:52:01
jesus christ the guy in my iphone 13 pro
00:52:03
max he ends the day with like 98 battery
00:52:05
now it's it's incredible he doesn't have
00:52:07
to do any work and it saves he can
00:52:09
probably go a week plus on a battery you
00:52:11
should ask him to not charge it and see
00:52:13
how long it takes yeah and just keep
00:52:14
running it down but he probably he
00:52:16
doesn't get stressed at all he's like
00:52:17
eight percent battery yeah i'm good like
00:52:19
i'll just keep running this phone down
00:52:20
that's awesome i wish i had that um but
00:52:24
super happy with it so far and i'm
00:52:26
really excited to keep it around all
00:52:27
right um pixel there we have it we're
00:52:29
pixel brothers now that's it for now and
00:52:32
forever we'll see how long that forever
00:52:33
no more reviews yeah we'll see team
00:52:35
pixel i'm just kidding anyway uh yeah
00:52:38
that's been it for this week for sure
00:52:40
stay tuned for a bunch of new stuff like
00:52:42
apple week has come and gone so we can
00:52:44
get back to the other stuff what we were
00:52:45
working on before that um so stay tuned
00:52:48
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00:52:54
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00:52:56
week thanks for watching catch you guys
00:52:58
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