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[Music] welcome back people of the internet to another episode of the waveform podcast
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we're your hosts marquez and i'm andrew and today's episode i'm already
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predicting i'm gonna get a little bit ranty but i'll try not to get too crazy
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we're gonna talk about the nothing event but we also have the reviews of the mac
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studio and the studio display we'll talk about that a little bit and we're also
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gonna reveal what phone andrew finally picked up the results of the poll were interesting i'm looking at it over here
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but we're going to reveal that during this episode but first andrew you have a little thing like kind
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of like an apple watch pro tip yeah um so we're doing the uh the challenge app
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right now this killed me this was great yeah so we do this every once in a while i
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haven't participated in a little bit but um we like to do the challenges group
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app uh whatever you it's just called challenges right it's challenge it's a
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group fitness competition with the apple web yeah if you're on apple watch and
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you ever think i really wish there was group fitness challenges there's an app
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called challenges that actually lets you do it we really like it um and so this weekend it was my really good friend's
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wedding um congrats matt and beth it was so much fun and i have physical proof of
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how fun it was because i didn't want to lose my points that day but you know i'm known to get down on the
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dance floor at weddings so i i realized there was a dancing exercise yep on the app so
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you know wedding rolls around not doing much all day in terms of exercising at least got my stand hours plenty because
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we're doing stuff all morning and then dinner rolls out after the reception and
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it's dancing time so i decided to throw on that dance um exercise and i looked the next morning and i just
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want to read off some of the stats from this because i think they're kind of
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crazy yeah so let's see i started at 10 o'clock p.m and went to 11 39 p.m total
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time an hour and 30 minutes active calories burned 895 total calories 1067. average heart rate for an hour and a
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half was 147 beats per minute that's kind of incredible and i'm looking at
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the graph because it gives you a graph yeah of how your heart rate went up and down during the workout with like most
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workouts that do like some sort of a graph yeah i'm trying to figure out what
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songs we're playing during certain spikes spike in them see the one in the middle
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that's 100 dance with somebody by whitney houston okay that's best wedding song ever and if you
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disagree with that i don't think we can be friends um there's a short spike
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that's very tall near the end too towards the and you're like somewhere between the middle of the and the end
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there's like this oh that that 170 bpm that was like that's what i'm talking about i think
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that's that's okay this little um earlier in here um there's a more prolonged spike they did like a stride
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of the like early 2000s like pop punk like blink 182 and lit and all that and that's a very nostalgic for me so i
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think i went pretty hard there as well several songs in a row so yeah but i'm
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i'm pretty pumped this is hands down calorie like cardio was the best workout
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i've done this whole month i think so this is funny because we're yeah we've been
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sort of trying to encourage ourselves to stay active blah blah like everybody has
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their thing that they'll do some people uh vin will go one wheeling and there is
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no one wheel workout but it's pretty similar mechanically to snowboarding yeah for sure so i'll get a snowboarding
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workout notification vin completed a snowboarding workout i'm like whoa it's
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like 70 degrees yeah like how's the oh right it's the one wheel uh a lot of
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people walk to the train or walk in their morning commute they'll do an outdoor walk workout
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uh the other day i sat down on the couch and i opened up gran turismo and i noticed that there is a fitness gaming
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workout i didn't wait i didn't turn it on okay i didn't turn it on but you can
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do a gaming workout if you if you play an intense enough game oh my god i've
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lost out on so many points yeah you can track your heart rate the whole time you
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get a little nice little graph at the end and that counts towards exercise goal i believe so yeah oh man so that's
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that's a fun one but yeah the dance one makes a lot of sense uh i've done a lot
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of indoor bike i've done a lot of golf ones lately and i have practice tonight and
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there is a disc sports is there really there's a disc sports okay workout that
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apple watch will track now it's just like it's an apple watch it's on your
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wrist it's not the most scientific thing in the world but it is kind of cool that
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it's basically just going to tell you your heart rate all the time it's simple
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it pushes you a little bit more um right now you having practice is pushing me really
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hard because i am somehow in the lead with like a week and a half left and now that it's guiding nice out and
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you're practicing is really hard especially when it's like the end of the
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day and i'm like i don't have to max out points and then your like practice
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workout comes in on my watch i was like sorry claire i gotta get on the bike yeah we always finish practice late too
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so like we have empire practices and pony practices at night yeah so you'll get you'll get that notification
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at like 10 11 p.m probably yeah i've hopped on the bike at 11 p.m a couple times also one more tip i love the uh
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braided loops for the solo braided loops for the apple watch yeah um but they're
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a hundred bucks i got this one on etsy for nine nine dollars nine dollars i mean is there a
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quality difference yeah you can feel i can show you the one main quality difference and that's in
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it's probably very hard to see this but it's plastic on the connector on this
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versus metal but like feel these two and see if you can see if you feel a 90 difference
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between them absolutely not i'm already yeah it's already the same and you can just
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get like you can get literally nine or ten for the same price you got a bunch of colors yeah that's the way it gets to
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me this was starting to uh it stretched out a bit and wasn't fitting me quite as well so i was like
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oh i just want this for the challenge because it's my favorite band for climbing but i'm not gonna spend a
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hundred dollars just because we're doing a challenge for a month uh on that but
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yeah um nice let's get in to the nothing event though because that was i'll be honest when i wrote the outline
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for this week's podcast i was like oh there's the nothing event on wednesday
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we'll just record right after we're going to have a ton of information i've never been so mistaken
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this event was the definition of could have been an email oh yeah it was it was great it was so
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first of all it was 15 minutes late i blocked off an hour on the calendar for it i was like all right it's going to be
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10 a.m to probably 11 a.m they're finally gonna announce their next thing right
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uh 15 minutes in nothing yet okay there's gonna be a lot of nothing yeah let's get it out of the way yeah
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not a lot happened there during this event big nothing burger but it finally does start and the whole thing's like 12
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minutes long and they're basically just announced that they're going to make a
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phone asked for investment money and then dipped but the event itself right it was very
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bizarre because there are a lot of things that happened that to me felt like it felt like the most 2022 like
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crypto like not really promising anything that concrete type of event there were a couple small things
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that were interesting they're going to have a launcher so if you like what you've seen we'll be releasing the
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nothing os launcher in april and a nothing os that will launch on the phone so if you have a different phone
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you can potentially download the nothing os launcher on your phone before the phone sits out maybe that'll tempt you
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into buying their phone but we didn't see the phone we don't know what it will
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look like we just know that they're gonna make a phone it's going to come
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out in summer and it's called the nothing phone one which i thought was also funny because
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the essential phone was basically what the essential ph one which was just essential phone now
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nothing phone one so i guess at least they're getting ready to make multiples of them i think
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central never did there's something about startups and having to call their first phone the one i mean the one plus
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was the one plus one ph one the earphones that nothing made or the ear one so you know welcome to
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another smartphone company okay so here's all the i wanna just go over all the weird things about it first they
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mentioned apple i wanna do like a word count maybe and find out how many times they said apple versus how many times
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they said their own name the ipod the iphone apple the first ipod to apple apple the macbook the iphone the ipad
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airpods airpods apple remember that first iphone launch apple because they felt the need to constantly compare
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themselves to apple but then also constantly talk about how apple is the only choice and that's bad
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because they don't plug in nicely with other things so you don't want to be
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like apple yet as soon as you leave that ecosystem for a windows pc or an android
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phone it breaks down there's no alternative to apple this means that consumers don't have a
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choice and innovation slows down and that's not right but also our first year
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of sales were just like apple see here's apple so they're they're kind of a
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little bit conflicted on how they want to they just bring up apple any chance you
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know i'll count it and we'll tweet it because it's pretty easy because the event it's
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only 13 minutes long so i'm pretty sure i can count i how many times they said
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apple versus how many times they said nothing yeah i don't want to see that it's close slightly more in favor of
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nothing but it's pretty close i can tell you it's more times than apple mentions
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any other brand in any of their that's a 100 true because apple pretends no other
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company exists yeah um okay so we got the name basically the only concrete information
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we got was they're going to use a qualcomm chip also funny because they they they
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brought that in with um like we are nothing we feel like we are here to cause change
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to the smartphone industry and we're using a qualcomm snapdragon chip which [Music]
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which is like that's more just funny timing on it um but yeah qualcomm chip it's obviously android i think we all
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knew that i think that the nothing os is clearly it's it's still android it's
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just a skin on it um but they talked a lot about how it's going it almost feels
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like they're creating and this is kind of similar to what oneplus did originally with all the
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cyanogenmod stuff on their original phones which is like feels like they're doing what the enthusiast would want to
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do on android phones which is like way quicker animations and just like things widgets
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looking better i did like how it goes from the lock screen clock and then into the regular clock is like perfectly
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matched with each other so it looks seamless that's a nice touch yeah yeah i
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hate that on i almost just said what phone i have every phone does that they move the clock around all the time very
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annoying yeah i kind of got the vibe that like carl and the team at oneplus had a thing going where like they'd
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started with this enthusiast grade thing the fast and smooth the nicely considered small touches and
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animations and then they realized that they were building it all for oppo and like underneath the company
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and they were like we want to do it ourselves so they all left oneplus oneplus soul has left its body and it's
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basically just another shell of a company underneath that oppo megacorp but now a lot of those same people are
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working for this new company called nothing and they have the same idea same big talk same we're gonna change the
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world stuff but they're starting with the enthusiast level uh appeal yeah and they went a little so
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it oneplus was flagship killer this feels almost more pinpointed at apple killer like yeah that's kind of what the
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nothing year ones were like right they were supposed to be the airpods pro right at less than half
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the price yeah which is funny because they started off by like name dropping like seven of apple's products in a row
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yeah and saying like they made all this great ecosystem but as soon as you want to leave the ecosystem things get worse
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and there are no like alternative ecosystems so apple big bad apple is the only option so now we're gonna make our
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own ecosystem just like apple okay great so that's happening um but they didn't
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show the phone that the only thing they showed was like this weird cryptic symbol
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yeah which i was trying to understand i want to pull do you have a picture of that symbol i can probably pull that up
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it's on nothing.tech right it's basically just this like yeah it looks like the letter c with a small letter c
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above it and then some dots and dashes it kind of looks like a sim card very yeah tray remover it's like if um a sim
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card tray remover was like a tech crop circle like yeah it looks like a a g with an
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upside down lowercase i underneath it a c as if like you're imagining actually
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if you're imagining the android um alien yeah it looks like the top of that where the left antenna is a c and the
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right antenna is just a detached antenna yeah i don't know what it means they didn't tell us what it meant i mean
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i'm guessing this is some sort of a symbol for like all the products that will be in their eventual ecosystem
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maybe maybe they're going to fill it out and add dots and dashes yeah i mean he
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literally said you might not get it just yet yeah of course we don't know what it
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means he literally said you probably don't get this yet and i like that i'm
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like yeah i don't what is it we also learn nothing about that i mean i'll be interested to
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see what these all mean and how many of them are more just like it's just marketing hype that just
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because remember remember oneplus when they tried to sell us that they purposely put the s on the back of the
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phone in the reflection mm-hmm this feels like one of those like the 60 yeah i so i have two main questions
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one is i wonder if they can really pull off a transparent looking phone because i
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really like the way the nothing ear one earbuds turned out they look pretty good
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i love them they're my favorite earbuds i think they're my favorite looking for
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sure maybe not my favorite overall pair but i really like what they did aesthetically with them i like them for
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some weird reasons mostly just because they fit really well in my ears that's a
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perfectly legit reason and i think they look fantastic like yeah to me it's um
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i like them because of why a lot of people like beets i don't love how beats
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look or the beats logo but i totally respect the fact that like as long as you're happy with the sound quality and
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how they work looking good is nice i love how the ear ones look yeah so my question is can they replicate that with
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a phone can they pull that off we've seen a couple uh transparent ish phones like maybe a sliver of the phone
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is transparent or like translucent u12 one of my videos some like stickers have made an
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appearance i think real me you know i think xiaomi did the fake sticker right yeah i don't want to you
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know speculate too much i'm sure that's exactly what nothing wants is just for
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us to go i wonder how good it'll be yeah but the other thing is like they are the
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most 2022 company ever just asking for money please invest in us please invest in us this kind of reminds me actually
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of what we were talking about the other week with all the evs unfortunately we parade around this idea
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and if you like the idea enough invest in the company because the future is bright for this idea
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and so the idea that they paraded around for 12 minutes in a live stream today was we're going to change the world with
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a smartphone and an ecosystem and look how similar we are to apple who by the way is nothing like us
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they're bad but we're going to change the world like apple um so that's that's how they get people to
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to invest and they've asked for uh 10 million from the public this time yeah
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and so i just saw something that was really funny as you were saying that um about the investments so you know how
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they already collected investments off the beginning right and then this is their second round i think they said
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they're open to up to 10 million dollars so when you go to nothing.tech it says
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community investment and then in parentheses two as in like the second community investment but following the
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one pattern of like parentheses inside it so they're literally naming their investments like they are their products
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yeah i don't i don't i guess you could just keep giving them money and getting nothing
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in return yeah i think that's the perfect way to end this segment yeah pun start on a pun end on a punch end of the
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pun yeah this event could have been an email all right yeah for sure we'll take
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a quick break let's come back and talk about some actual real products be right back
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[Music] all right welcome back i know i said i was going to talk about uh real products
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for a second but i just want to open real quick because i got distracted by twitter you know how randomly you'll get
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like trending twitter topics that are just like a random word because there's
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just the perfect storm of things about it like apple products tweet or apple products trend all the time for no
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reason because people are just talking about apple products uh i have tiger on my trending right now and it's under
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sports and there are three separate stories as reasons why tiger is trending right is one of them that new netflix
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show with barack obama that's what i would immediately jump to no because that's been trending a lot my
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hint is that it's under sports even though that's only one of the stories all of them all three only one
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of them are that so the word tiger is trending under sports and that's because
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uh the masters is coming up and the other week the pga tour put out a list of so if you win the masters you're
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invited back for life okay and tiger woods has not played in a while since ever since he had like that car accident
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and the pga tour put out a list of previous champions who will not be playing this year and tiger's not on
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that list and everyone went oh he's tiger is he is he back is he gonna play in the masters and so the
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entire uh golf universe is waiting for the announcement of whether he'll play or
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not that might be out by the time this episode comes out and then i just clicked on that expecting to see a bunch
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of tiger tweets and i also see a tweet of there's a random tiger at a zoo fan
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cam that just reached a million views and there's a bbc article about an escaped tiger from a zoo that turned out
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to just be a plush toy so all those things combined on my timeline today to trend the word tiger
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twitter is a magical place love love me some tweets yeah uh anyway let's talk
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about mac studio and studio display real products our real reviews are out yeah i'm very happy with uh those
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reviews and like the time we put into them and the final results which one you want to talk about first
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let's just go i i like the studio display talk more but let's just start off with studio mac
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because i think that's like the powerhouse but the the display has just like a ton
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surrounding it but this is just the product and these are just kind of like our final thoughts on this obviously go
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check out both videos if you're interested in it um definitely also like studio mac we made a really killer robot
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intro which i'm sure everyone loves even if you hate apple it's totally worth
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watching great videos yeah in my opinion i am a little biased i think they're good uh okay so the
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computer so it turns out it's a good computer wow there's not a lot to hate on because a
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lot of people typically will find a reason to say how there's nothing really new here with
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this computer right a lot of the uh the classic apple hating community will just say ah it's just a
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rebranded blah blah it's just a bigger mac mini whatever it's not that big of a
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deal that's a um rough thought i think right but it is it is a really good computer and apple silicon is doing its
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thing it has i o it's got great cooling it's got great performance and they
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genuinely did something really new and really good which is in m1 ultra which is fusing
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two chips together with a high enough bandwidth that the system sees it as one chip like the more articles and talking
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about this that i see like that's that's what sli was trying to be that's what like was it
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crossfire amd crossfire or whatever it was called like you would get two gpus and you get
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a little bridge card yeah and you connect them and you'd have twice the power but they weren't really acting
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like twice the gpu your system would have to see that there's two gpus and then decide to split up the tasks
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between the gpus and apple's given us twice the gpu cores it's twice the everything that's the
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theme of the review yeah but yeah the system sees it as one powerful chip and that translates really well for
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performance and the benefit here is because apple's doing it and with what we see with a lot of apple products are
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when you make all of the components they're insanely compatible with each other and the efficiency between them is
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really really good so you're just like sli would have to be probably connected
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to you know nvidia gpus connecting to an intel chip or an amd chip this is just all of apple's stuff on to more apple
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things connected all sharing memory bandwidth super high between all the parts it's awesome it's great yeah my
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my question at the end of the day for me is all right they made a computer called
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the mac studio guess what we run a video studio is this the new computer that i'll be editing on at my desk that's
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that's kind of the question at the beginning when they announced it it's
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like is this the new mac pro yeah or is this just a really powerful small mac on the desktop
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and as soon as it was announced i i immediately ordered the highest end spec mac studio anticipating that it would
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end up replacing my mac pro and i think technically it can i'm just not sure that i'm going to yet
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i'm not sure do you have there's a couple reasons yeah one we're still waiting for the new mac
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pro but i don't know how soon we're gonna get that new mac pro not that there's
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any like problem with my current mac pro aging i'm just obsessed with performance
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and getting the last couple bit of games out of it that i can like the the ipad air review it was chugging when i was
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editing that at the beginning i had too many plug-ins and it was just like i'd
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move something across the screen and it would just be beach ball for 30 seconds and i'd have to wait for stuff i'm just
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ready for better performance right so the mac pro i'm convinced we'll for sure
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offer that but i don't we don't know when it's coming out maybe announced at wwdc and
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then shipping in later in the year that's the optimistic view is what i'm leaving that at not
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sure when that's coming out so we saw this machine and early apple charts indicated it would
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outperform the mac pro and i looked at all the i o and i said okay i've got these two thunderbolt
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monitors i've got thunderbolt raid array i've got the dac and all this stuff and
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the mac studio supports all of it and it can be on top of my desk so i don't have
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cables hanging behind it and it seems like this is a good replacement but when we got the machine in the test
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it did not beat the mac pro that i've been using at a lot of the things i was
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expecting slash hoping it to uh specifically editing like there's some something about having
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768 gigs of ram that just lets me load audio waveforms in faster and like keep the timeline going a little longer
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and the export the export was faster on the on the intel mac pro again 28 cores just turned through i think the export
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was uh they were very close it was like a minute faster yeah they're both fast
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but i was just noticing it's not actually crushing but then i'm still tempted
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because it's apple silicon and i just want to get our workflow on apple silicon ahead of time yeah all the apps
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that i use now at this point i think discord just got updated like all of this stuff is now
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optimized for apple silicon like this is going to be a better more efficient workflow so i'm just
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i'm kind of torn i still have the machine coming in but i don't know if i
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need to switch to it maybe that can be an editor's computer maybe that could be
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something else but i think yeah i'm still gonna keep intel mac pro for now so
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while you're still keeping that i think what is really really cool about this is
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how much did you pay for maxed out version that's a good point uh it was about 45 grand
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for the mac pro for the max studio it was eight grand yeah eight grand okay so those of you out there who
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did not want to spend 40 000 could not spend 40 000 on a mac pro but still are doing
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big resolution files and doing a lot of editing like more than enough look at that you're at a
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fifth of the price at this more so like those people should be super super happy
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and really really excited for this and i mean form factor comparison like is it's huge that a different self that was
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the conclusion basically i got to was like this is more computer than you probably think you need yeah like if
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you're like they showed it in studios with like photography studios where people were like editing
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a raw file from the r5 and pixelmator it's like you don't need this much
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computer to do that yeah this is gonna crush that i mean you could be future proofing and you're future proofing at
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way less money at that point absolutely true yeah absolutely true but you know the m1 mac mini will do
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that exact workflow really well so yeah your your head room for days if you get this sli 2 mac minis oh god that's kind
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of what just happened it's just m1 m1 ultra uh so yeah nothing but good things
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really to say about that computer even though i might not be swapping it out for my main you're not swapping but for
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people out there looking the price to performance ratio versus the mac pro is destroying it yeah and also
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size to performance if you're someone who likes a neat desk because i would say the one way to potentially
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get you to switch to it is if you keep looking at your desk and seeing all the wires that have to run to the ground it
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just means a lot i'm finally sick of this and i'm tired of people commenting
00:25:30
about it so i want to actually have everything on my head getting my cables roasted yeah it would fit right under
00:25:35
both of your xtr displays perfectly right and that could make things look real nice and clean on there but um yeah
00:25:41
yeah that little tiny bit i mean when you're playing with variables like plug-ins and all different audio and
00:25:46
like all the stuff that we're doing at the same time um you really appreciate that little bit of power you
00:25:52
get out of out of the old one yeah so so far the 28 core dual vega 2 duo 768 gig mac pro is hanging on yeah over
00:26:04
the brand new small mac studio but yeah that's you know good computer they also announced a
00:26:10
display with it plus less positive things with the display now i was really happy
00:26:16
with the way i was able to put together this review it's a very unusual product
00:26:20
i think is where this all started it's called the studio and i think the main
00:26:27
problem with its positioning is it is well this has happened before with apple products but it doesn't
00:26:33
really match up to anything if they want to call it the studio then it should be
00:26:36
a high-end panel with uh background back backlight zone dimming it should have different you should have mini led
00:26:44
probably maybe it'll have pro pro motion it's got to do something in the high end
00:26:49
if it's going to be a studio monitor funny enough though i um based on their other
00:26:56
naming schemes and products i actually think it fits perfectly where it is okay so my reason basically is is i think the
00:27:05
monitor for the mac pro right now is the pro display xdr correct i don't know if studio is their full
00:27:12
pro thing because they say they're coming out with another mac pro studio feels like the
00:27:18
slightly smaller version but still like prosumer okay cheaper commercial i'll clarify
00:27:25
okay i i think you're right it it has to be underneath the mac the underneath the
00:27:29
pro product with this which is the pro display xdr it doesn't get low enough
00:27:34
okay okay so when you get so it's sixteen hundred dollars with non-height adjustable stand you add the height
00:27:40
adjust now it's two thousand dollars yeah um you add nano texture and now it's twenty three hundred dollars
00:27:46
exactly this monitor isn't necessarily a better panel for a lot of people's uses
00:27:54
but it does certain things really well that certain people are gonna love no matter what the price is right and that
00:28:02
was a challenge for the review can i say the one thing it does the best which you
00:28:05
said this morning that i i loved the naming and at first i was like oh it's just studio display but look at
00:28:12
every other monitor's name out there please everybody else follow a factor like this
00:28:19
i cannot tell you the name of both of the monitors on my desk at home because they're both like asus
00:28:25
tuff vs248 qg or something like that and i have absolutely no idea and whenever anybody
00:28:33
asks me it takes me 10 minutes to find my past order and think of what it was the the two that i compared it to in the
00:28:40
video were the lg ultrafine 5k not bad then the dell ultra sharp u2820q not a great name bad
00:28:51
so studio display is very easy to remember rolls off the tongue but yeah i guess my challenge was like
00:28:56
yo this is not a great deal for most people who are cross shopping but the the thing that this is designed for is
00:29:03
for people who are not cross shopping they were just looking for a better mac monitor it just works with plug and play
00:29:09
it has a webcam and speakers built in the speakers happen to be very good in my opinion if you're into built-in
00:29:14
speakers you don't want to have extras that's great you don't even have to
00:29:17
think about it the webcam not that great but whatever it's a webcam most people
00:29:21
don't have a huge investment in how good the built-in webcam quality is even
00:29:26
though i was expecting better um and there's a huge world of monitors out there
00:29:33
that just don't work that well with the mac i reviewed the lg ultrafine 5k i had
00:29:38
to look back it was five years ago and the thing it had it was made of plastic it had
00:29:43
these weird shielding issues with wi-fi which is never hilarious very strange but then also just like plug and play
00:29:51
sometimes it would just not wake up when i'd wake the mac up the the mac mini i
00:29:55
plugged it into would wake up and then lg ultrafine would stay asleep and i'd
00:29:58
have to restart the mac mini to get the monitor to light up like all these weird
00:30:02
little quirks that people have been dealing with with monitors for a long time and you get one from apple you know it's
00:30:08
just like all right plug and play it's just gonna be fine yeah and there isn't
00:30:12
really a price for that unless your apple what you say okay that's worth sixteen hundred dollars
00:30:18
and so the way i reviewed it was i mean you can watch the video but to summarize it was like all right is this
00:30:25
a good deal it's 5k 27 inch 600 nits p3 color 60hz lcd if you want to do like a comp of like
00:30:38
let's say you're a real estate agent and you're like how much is this house worth
00:30:41
all right i'm gonna find another house with the same number of bedrooms and square feet and in the same location and
00:30:46
then the price of that with the same finishes is probably the same this is the other
00:30:50
that other house so i'll find another monitor with the same specs the closest
00:30:53
one is the lg ultrafine 5k [Music] that's like yeah you get really close on paper but i don't want that monitor yeah
00:31:02
like it's not as good of an experience so at the end of the video i said look
00:31:10
is the rolls-royce ghost a good deal because it's the only four-door sedan with suicide doors with
00:31:20
a 6.7 liter v12 that's under 400 grand there's two by the way just like the
00:31:25
monitors there's one that's 400 grand and one this one is 300 grand the nano
00:31:29
textured rolls-royce exactly is that a good deal no but if that's what you want yeah
00:31:37
then it doesn't really matter that like a chrysler 300 is a better deal because i want the one with the thing
00:31:44
and i did the same thing with the shoes like all right is the i think adam had this idea like are the nike hyper adapts
00:31:50
a good deal i want self-lacing shoes that's that's all i really care about yeah well okay
00:31:56
but the jordan ones are a better deal they're only only 130 bucks yeah but i
00:32:00
want to do the thing yeah yeah and they're 300 bucks it doesn't make it a
00:32:04
good deal apple will notoriously find a way to charge more for something like they did
00:32:09
with this the conclusion is it's not a great deal but it's a good monitor for a lot of
00:32:15
people and they're going to get it and they're going to like it yeah you're
00:32:18
you're allowed to like things that aren't good deals it happens exactly all
00:32:22
the time a 30 90 is not a good deal but like sometimes you want that i mean maybe that's performance wise you know
00:32:29
you are you can perfectly compare it to something lower than that but like in this sense if you want this if you
00:32:36
see the studio display monitor and are like i i love everything about that i love
00:32:42
how it looks i love how the build quality is on it i love the compatibility with my apple products
00:32:48
like everything on this i really want 5k over 4k for some reason i mean the reason is actually kind of substantial i
00:32:55
might have downplayed it a bit works really well with the scaling so it's exactly twice the resolution of 2560 by
00:33:01
1440 so the scaling doesn't have to do anything wonky okay and 5k is almost double the pixel count of 4k so 3120 by
00:33:11
14 whatever the the actual number of pixels you get so you can edit a native 4k video and have ui around it okay a
00:33:17
lot of stuff like that there's not that many 5k monitors but that is pretty nice
00:33:21
that's a pixel level comparability wise it's so but so like if that is your
00:33:24
thing if this if this all fits in it you can buy that and you can love it and it doesn't matter that it's a bad if
00:33:31
it's not like a good deal like there's not a single person the biggest person
00:33:36
who loves that thing i don't think is sitting there and being like man i really pulled one over on apple
00:33:41
and like i really got a good a good deal here i hate saying the word a million times but that's totally fine a lot of
00:33:48
times products feature is the fact that it's really a good bargain for the money
00:33:53
this is the apple specialty that's just not what this one is but it has everything else so that's awesome yeah
00:33:58
this is the apple specialty if you ever ask somebody who buys actually probably the telltale sign to know if an apple
00:34:04
product is for you or not is the second you start cross shopping and seriously considering other products you probably
00:34:10
know this one's not for you yeah like if you look into you're like you know what
00:34:14
i think i need a new monitor i wonder which one i'm gonna get let's compare
00:34:17
the studio display with x immediately you're gonna find like okay the fact i'm
00:34:22
even considering these other monitors means i'm not sick of them which means
00:34:25
i'll probably get a better deal and i'll just go with the one that's a third of
00:34:28
the price yeah but if you're just oh man i've had all these other monitors and
00:34:31
apple just released this monitor that's just made for apple products i'm just
00:34:35
going to get this one that's the type of person that apple's aiming for and i think they nailed that
00:34:40
i do really think the real estate reference was probably the best analogy here because like i just remember
00:34:45
looking for for houses it's like you want this many bedrooms like bedrooms bathrooms square footage that's all
00:34:53
super obvious but then we were looking at things like fenced in yard over an acre of property under two acres
00:34:58
of property like very specific things and then the comparables get less less less and then you're like oh here's two
00:35:04
houses in these price ranges what but like they they have totally different things in them and it's just
00:35:12
like eventually you're like okay that's the one it's more money but it has every
00:35:16
single thing that we want and we're just gonna move into it we're gonna be really
00:35:19
happy about it yeah yeah let's say even if this monitor was uh 1300 let's say it's the same price as
00:35:24
the lg ultrafine 5k yeah there's still going to be people who would never consider the lg yeah so
00:35:31
fine so apple can charge a little bit for that but yeah that's those are the two
00:35:35
products they're both studio products i think every time now that now that we've
00:35:38
done the reviews i'm still left in like what will this mac pro be can i say one more thing
00:35:44
about it yeah my biggest gripe about it um like i know apple loves to do the thing
00:35:50
of where vesta mount visa mount i i'm never quite sure if i'm pronouncing that
00:35:54
um is like extra or it's not extra but it's an at you can't have the stand and then
00:35:59
detach it and have that my biggest gripe about it is that it's not centered on
00:36:02
the monitor so a lot of people were talking about screen rotation no it's like down low like an imac it's probably
00:36:08
on like the bottom quarter bottom third okay um so the hinge is towards the bottom where when it's vest amount i'm
00:36:15
not sure how well that would hold up on like a rotating arm if you did it it would probably be fine but there's
00:36:23
always going to be that little imbalance or like different center of gravity because you're pulling from
00:36:29
like a third down it or now rotated a third to the side of it i mean that might be something you get used to
00:36:36
the build quality is really good so i'm sure yeah but like if you took that plastic lg ultra fine and held it from
00:36:43
like a bottom corner of that i feel like that would be creaking and like really pulling on some parts of the frame that
00:36:48
wouldn't hold up very well yeah that's even one of the things the the build
00:36:52
quality of this monitor is its biggest pro and its biggest con it's so weird
00:36:57
the hinge yeah like okay first of all everything is it's metal it's got these sharp
00:37:02
corners like most monitors are plastic so right off the bat it's like built really well the hinge is incredibly well
00:37:09
balanced if you get the height adjustment which is 400 extra dollars yeah it it height adjusts really stably
00:37:15
it doesn't rotate which actually makes it feel more stable than the pro display
00:37:19
xdr which is a thousand dollar stand um but the downsides are like it's fixed so
00:37:24
whichever one you get you can't use your upgrade you have to send it to apple if
00:37:28
you want to change it out and two the power cable that whole debacle it's it's not designed to be
00:37:35
removed yeah even though you can pull really hard and rip it out the back we had a review unit you're not supposed
00:37:43
to damage these things when you have review units lionesses lots of people bought
00:37:48
them and like pulled really hard and you can eventually rip it out the back but that's how you can tell you're not
00:37:53
supposed to like a normal monitor what happens you just pull it right out the back and it's fine um and so somebody
00:37:58
found that there's a tool that you can use that you're supposed to use i don't even know is
00:38:02
this an apple tool or something that people are supposed to buy i don't know
00:38:05
i think it's probably an internal apple tool but that literally like you wrap
00:38:08
the cable around it and like twist and it pushes up leverage to pull rip the cable out the
00:38:14
back yeah it's it's weird you're not designed to upgrade it and that's
00:38:19
like let's say you have a cat chewing on the cable you have to now replace the
00:38:23
entire monitor i did see a lot of people saying what difference does that make and
00:38:28
i agree and disagree there are instances like that you can fray a wire you can i
00:38:33
mean especially if you have like you know sometimes when your desk is pushed up too close to the outlet so you're
00:38:38
like jamming a plug in there now it's almost at a right angle and you're just
00:38:42
gonna the wire is gonna start fraying or if you're in a professional setting
00:38:46
where like it has to move computers around a lot or move desks like moving a monitor where the cable is
00:38:53
hanging or you have to like wrap it up is it's just more difficult it's so much
00:38:57
easier when you just pull all the cables out toss them in a box move the tower and monitor and then put
00:39:02
all the cables back in yeah and even if you never even if you never have to deal with the cable again or
00:39:09
damage it for a lot of people it's still a man it's still a matter of principle
00:39:13
like yeah really you're gonna make the monitor like you're gonna lock it in and
00:39:17
not let me replace it if i want that you know made a lot of people disappointed but
00:39:22
yeah to me personally i'm like all right that's that's just another thing apple
00:39:26
can do and that's a very thing that only apple would do yep um but there it is
00:39:32
that's the studio display i would recommend not getting the nano texture if you
00:39:37
don't need it it is incredibly hard to clean that's the one that's noticed yeah
00:39:41
my xdr makes me we are we all got the nano textures because we live we we shoot in
00:39:47
this very bright very well-lit studio and it really does a great job of getting rid of
00:39:52
reflections but if you like drag an eyelash across the thing it leaves a huge mark and
00:39:59
it's pretty hard cleaning supplies and the cloth you need the special cloth it
00:40:03
still doesn't always work mine looks like i sneeze on it every day that's not
00:40:07
great so that's a if you're considering getting it that's my little pro tip
00:40:11
um all right let's take a quick break we've got a reveal to do of a little phone that's just out of
00:40:17
frame here so let's come right back and do that that's just for my [Music]
00:40:32
all right welcome back um last episode if you stuck around till the end we kind of mentioned how me
00:40:38
upgrading my phone has turned almost into a meme on this uh on the channel and i finally upgraded so we posted a
00:40:46
twitter poll to see we're gonna do the reveal in a minute but we posted a poll to see what
00:40:51
everyone thought and it was fascinating because it's the one of the closest polls i think i've ever seen
00:40:57
on twitter at least in terms of one with four options we gave four options the lowest is 23 and a half percent and the
00:41:04
highest is crazy with 2200 votes too so like not just a couple votes like that's close so
00:41:10
no one knows what phone you've picked they don't they don't um but we we put a little
00:41:15
thought into this poll um so the choices were that iphone 13 got 23 pixel 6 got 28
00:41:22
s22 ultra or we just put s22 um got 25 and s21 ultra 24 so like you know pixel i talk about all
00:41:32
the time i'm coming from a pixel 4 xl iphone 13. i think i have constantly mentioned wanting to switch to ios but i
00:41:39
hate how many icons are on the home page and that still is a thing s22 i was really digging um and then the
00:41:47
s21 ultra we talked about how good of a deal it was um much unlike this studio display but
00:41:54
um we talked a lot about how going back a year flagship it was still such a good
00:41:58
phone um and those choices yeah like we said really close 23 28 25 24 all right on top of each other and i got
00:42:08
a lot of tags uh as to telling me why a lot of people saw the apple watch we mentioned earlier right this is for the
00:42:15
fitnesses challenge there is an iphone 11 here but this is just but that's strictly so you can use the apple watch
00:42:22
for the fitness channel strictly so i can tell everybody that i'm winning the
00:42:25
challenges okay so it's not the iphone 13 then it is not okay are you ready i am ready you know what
00:42:31
it is i have seen it already but are they ready there it is pixel six for our audio listeners that
00:42:37
is a sea foam green yeah i went sort of seafoam sort of c phone pixel six okay so you've had this for a couple
00:42:45
days now it's shiny about it you had a case on it it came yeah i do i i i'm a case person yeah um
00:42:52
it came the night after we recorded the last podcast which is when i wanted to just
00:42:56
talk about it but this wound up being kind of fun so oh god um so how have you enjoyed it so far because i i actually
00:43:02
i'll just mention this right now i've been using the s21 ultra since january
00:43:06
of last year it's been like a year and change and i just again put my sim card
00:43:10
back in the pixel 6 pro i'm using the march update so far so good it still has a little bit of
00:43:17
hiccups compared to the s21 ultra we'll see how long this lasts but i'm curious
00:43:21
how you're enjoying the pixel 6 experience we're pixel brothers now yeah same idea
00:43:28
yeah um yeah so i want regular six obviously a bit cheaper um to be fair biggest things i wanted were my pixel
00:43:36
4xl is just getting towards the end of its life i think i had some screen damage which was causing a bunch of
00:43:41
accidental touches all the time and i had things like just completely closing on me or like random buttons getting
00:43:47
touched whenever um so i just needed to make the upgrade just for this needing to upgrade from an old phone um
00:43:55
i think the two biggest things with me and why i picked it is i'm dying for an ultra wide camera i
00:44:00
feel like the activities that i do like climbing in outdoors ultra wide is so much more fun super useful um and the
00:44:06
pixel 4 xl did not have that yeah and then for me and my laziness i think the ease of just
00:44:15
going from pixel to pixel same operating system same feature set all like i was running android 12 on my pixel 4 xl
00:44:22
already it was the most seamless transition between the two of them um that coupled along with a good
00:44:28
trade-in uh system did you get a better price than the s22 would have cost it's worth the s20 i think if i had
00:44:38
the uh like if you have a bunch of backup phones samsung lets you trade in two phones pixel only lets you trade in
00:44:43
one oh wow which is really awesome i still i just traded in one though and because of the the things i mentioned
00:44:50
that's why i think you probably sam's samsung seems to always be the best deal
00:44:54
you can get they're trying to get you out they're so good at trying i like
00:44:57
saving you money on all that um but yeah so a couple thoughts so far um yeah let's hear it did i get my
00:45:04
review right did you know you want to see if there's we loved it we loved the
00:45:07
pixels one of my it was it was basically our quote budget phone of the year yeah
00:45:13
maybe not maybe not budget but value phone of the year screen i dig 90 hertz is fine um
00:45:18
totally fine with that flat edges i think it looks good um i put it in a case i have the dbrand grip case because
00:45:24
like i really like this wait wait show the icons show the icon skin there it is all black so it's
00:45:30
probably really hard to see but um dbrand.com icons come on icons something like that
00:45:37
uh i should really know that um so while i've really liked it i love the ultrawide i love how that's just
00:45:44
basically everything that i had already it doesn't it feels like i barely switched which i love um
00:45:50
i have two gripes so far i want to guess what they are okay fingerprint reader yes slow and slightly inconsistent
00:45:59
more just slow so i can't compare it that way because i didn't have i was
00:46:04
using face id because the 4xl had solely even though i disabled all the solely stuff face id would still work because i
00:46:11
and i've set it on this i hate solely i hated when my phone would wake up when
00:46:15
my hand went near it the amount of times my phone would just wake up all the time
00:46:18
and then i would look at it and then it would unlock and ask manage it's so frustrating to
00:46:25
accidentally swipe a song in your car when you're just like reaching into the
00:46:28
passenger seat for something i mean like that's usually where my taco bell is i
00:46:32
want to listen to my songs and just eat my taco bell stop but anyways this is my
00:46:36
first in-display fingerprint reader i really miss face unlock on my 4xl i loved it it felt really seamless i know
00:46:44
even with the masks but like usually only wearing the mask like the grocery store and when i'm out at home it felt
00:46:49
really easy um it does feel kind of slow because i'm only comparing it to my old
00:46:54
like pixel 3 back face compared to every phone okay yeah um and just like when i'm working out and sweaty if i'm
00:47:02
climbing and i have chalk on my hands if i'm outside and there's dirt if i'm
00:47:05
doing yard work and stuff like that it's clearly going to affect that which i
00:47:10
don't love um so i don't like that that much okay that's one that's one and i even um
00:47:18
wasn't gonna say oh yeah i was when i was reviewing the ipad air i noticed i
00:47:22
couldn't tell if it was me being spoiled or just really getting used to face id
00:47:27
because on i've used the ipad pro a lot and with the ipad pro you tap the screen
00:47:31
it lights up and you swipe up and it's already look at your face yeah with the
00:47:34
ipad air it's got the fingerprint reader and you can get really used to the fingerprint reader just like you'll get
00:47:40
really used to this fingerprint reader but there's just something about it just
00:47:42
like looking at your face and it doesn't matter what's on your hands yep so
00:47:45
that's one thing okay the other thing yeah two things i got really into sorry
00:47:48
just like pulling my phone up power button and then just it's already open yeah yeah i
00:47:52
love that okay that's fair second thing is is it your i don't think it's your battery yet you
00:47:58
haven't had it long enough maybe uh cameras are is it um is it the cameras being a little too
00:48:06
processed hdre i don't mind that okay i'm fine with that okay you were kind of right so
00:48:13
i'm gonna preemptively say it it was battery but i figured out why it was battery and that problem has been fixed
00:48:19
so okay i like i mentioned before i was at the wedding all weekend so like not a
00:48:24
lot of time to keep it on the charger which i usually do um and i came from a pixel 4 xl which is not known for its
00:48:29
battery life at all so anything should have been an upgrade yet i found myself over the weekend just
00:48:36
being lower than i would like i mean i feel like there's people who are are like this battery life is great
00:48:42
and when they go to bed and it's at 20 like hell yeah i made it the whole day
00:48:46
probably it probably would have been that but if it's under fifty percent for
00:48:49
me i'm like stressing usually like you would not like it to be down that low that's funny um but i also noticed
00:48:56
5g was on the whole time despite not feeling any benefits of that yeah turn 5g off and it's been way better
00:49:04
then so i just feel like that should be something you should do um unless you're somehow in a place where
00:49:11
5g is super beneficial i would just turn that off you know what's funny i have this i have this new
00:49:16
thing like i when i test a phone i daily drive it and i i always have this thing
00:49:20
where i put on waze and i navigate to work and have this like half hour 40 minute drive and
00:49:25
there's a spot right when i'm getting on the parkway where i always lose service
00:49:30
and it's become like a game of like how far down the highway will i get before
00:49:36
service comes back so it'll be 5g and then i'll roll into over this hill and i
00:49:41
always lose service right past this gas station i'll go past the light and i'll
00:49:45
get onto the highway and with the pixel 6 well i had been using the s21 ultra and it would always indicate probably
00:49:52
within about 300 yards it'll be back on lte and then eventually would find 5g again
00:49:59
this the pixel 6 pro this morning it drops service like it usually does right where it's supposed to
00:50:05
and then it took like an extra like thousand yards to pick up lte again and another like half a mile
00:50:12
to pick 5g back up again and i just noticed i don't know if that's a an indicator
00:50:17
overall of the signal strength from the pixel but i feel like we did see signal strength complaints where like if you
00:50:22
have low signal it's gonna hurt your battery and the pixel doesn't have a
00:50:26
great like antenna and so if you turn 5g off and have it stop searching for 5g all the time it'll probably help your
00:50:32
battery a lot yeah i think like like i said there i mean and there's plenty of cases
00:50:37
where if you're on 5g you're potentially getting worse speeds than lte yeah
00:50:41
trying to upgrade pump you off of the crowded lte bands what do you what carrier are you on t-mobile t-mobile is
00:50:47
there 5g like anywhere that you go on t-mobile i feel like they're maybe one
00:50:51
of the they have mid-band 5g they were one of the first to do like is it ultra wide 5g i'm completely
00:50:59
blanking right the blanket coverage yeah or the millimeter yeah the black like no
00:51:02
they do not do i don't think they do millimeters yeah we did the video about
00:51:05
um t-mobile's mid-band 5g they're like pretty well rolled out yeah i think they
00:51:10
were one of the first to do it so i and i was in a the wedding was in a town that was like pretty popular so like
00:51:16
okay all wedding 5g and like i noticed it because it's not something that's
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shown on my phone before so it's new to me right like i was always like oh 5g 5g
00:51:24
oh 60 50 it's like it's two o'clock in the afternoon like you're not using data or
00:51:31
like downloading it wasn't doing much yeah so yeah i mean like listen i'm sure
00:51:36
i'm 100 positive it would have lasted the full day with no charge yeah but it was stressing me out fair
00:51:42
yeah fair so funny it reminds me of my dad who's uh his old iphone have i told
00:51:47
this already i got him a new phone he uh he had like an iphone 6s plus or a 6s or
00:51:53
something like that and uh i think it was thanksgiving he showed me his phone like plummet from like 17 to 80 battery
00:52:00
in like three minutes and i was like jesus christ the guy in my iphone 13 pro max he ends the day with like 98 battery
00:52:05
now it's it's incredible he doesn't have to do any work and it saves he can
00:52:09
probably go a week plus on a battery you should ask him to not charge it and see
00:52:13
how long it takes yeah and just keep running it down but he probably he doesn't get stressed at all he's like
00:52:17
eight percent battery yeah i'm good like i'll just keep running this phone down
00:52:20
that's awesome i wish i had that um but super happy with it so far and i'm
00:52:26
really excited to keep it around all right um pixel there we have it we're pixel brothers now that's it for now and
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forever we'll see how long that forever no more reviews yeah we'll see team
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pixel i'm just kidding anyway uh yeah that's been it for this week for sure
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00:52:45
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