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I got a prediction for this event predict it let's hear it USBC accessories like the Magic Mouse the
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keyboard oh I I would really like that oh if it came with a new iMac maybe that'd be cool yeah if you ship a new iMac you can't ship us a lightning keyboard with that thing you could you sure as hell can you can you're right
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you're right you can you can but like come on what is going on people the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm
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Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David this is back to your regularly scheduled episode if you didn't already see we had a
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special episode earlier this week launched on Tuesday all about AI you should check out that conversation it's
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over an hour it's a bonus episode it's very in depth uh and I think it's awesome but this is back to your uh your
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regular Chat Show Shenanigans and we do have a lot to talk about weirdly it's all actually I was just looking at this
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not AI it's a lot of future stuff or like stuff that's on on the horizon which is really interesting
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and then the only thing that's not future is AI because it's now irony but it's very silly AI so it's very different yeah it happens um but first
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off video viewers can see what I'm doing but audio listeners are confused right now I'm pointing at the mic that I'm
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red and black beat we are officially all customized with way officially all customized not any of us when they can
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do us personally pretty fine maybe in a few years it's got well it has the uh the waveform logo like yours is on the
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bottom mine's on the on the bottom as well so these ones also have uh red grills that off oh right yeah just and
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we know about it yeah not everybody knows about it do people where are you guys is getting the waveform
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logo M black neck forehead that like weird upper chest where it kind of pokes through your shirt and then like you can tell it's just straight across your chest wow waveform logo would look kind of sick right there I'm thinking like
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one on each eyelid oh whoa I didn't even think about that nice that's crazy anyway uh we do
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have some uh EVS I wanted to talk about I put them in the slack and I feel like this is it was more just like me
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reacting to how weird these are but also I feel like looking at these two we're about to talk about I had the same
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reaction that most Skeptics had when seeing the cybertruck for the first time so I hope I'm just as wrong about these as everyone else was about the cybertruck but let's just start with the infinity Vision QE electric wait real
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quick what was everyone wrong about with the Cyber truck that it would never come out most people said this thing's never coming out a lot of people said that
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never 5 years they're not that far apart well that's a great point because a lot of concept cars do have a large gap
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between when they are initially unveiled and when they actually happen so given them that benefit of that doubt and
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probably a gap in design between the initial concept and the final thing we can think about uh these two in that context so Infinity Vision QE electric
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if you look at the pictures of this thing and they are renders uh it's a sort of a giant Sleek super modern
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looking sedan type thing uh fully electric and there's also a picture of like a lineup of four things which is this sedan it has the typical crazy
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alien looking Wheels but also like some Crossovers and then an SUV all in the name of uh Infinity's new electric lineup one thing I feel like with a lot of these concept images is what are
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those um like RGB gamer lights people put in the background of their like a-roll sets Philips hu not the Philips H
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what are the triangle ones do you know where you like layer the wall I forgot I know what you're
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talking about I feel like every concept EV these days is just like Nan Leaf it's like this whole car is made out of Nano
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Leaf let's put lights wherever we feel like it this like whole Grill looks sick but I can't imagine lights being in all
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of these positions like the grill goes all the way out into the lights which the lights go all the way back into the
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wheel well fully across the front of it under front lip if you scrape it you just break some of your lights those rims are probably Nano leaves and you it's a lot I don't think it's that bad
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looking I just don't think it looks like a today car you know I mean it doesn't even look like it has a door no maybe a little bit of a door well every car yeah doesn't look like it has doors or
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mirrors that's pretty classic yeah there's a there's not many there's basically no specs about this it's pure
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concept but it is like part of Infinity's announcement of that they're revamping into a for I don't know if
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it's into a fourcc car lineup or a new fourcc car lineup by 2030 two of which will be EVS I'm hoping that means the
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other two are at least hybrids um since that's the route everyone else seems to be going um but just the it looks very
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similar in the back here you're getting that very like Eevee bar light front lightup logo Sleek looking design um looks like a snowplow this does look like a snowplow
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you know speaking of a sedan it looks like a snowplow okay the other one is from
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Nissan Nissan announced a concept called the Nissan hyperforce what the heck is this oh my God this is a uh described on motor one.com a beefy EV it is a
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twodo with solid state batteries with over 1,300 horsepower and a top speed of about 200 milph this is something that I would have driven in like Forza on
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Playstation 1 not because they wanted it to look cool but because the graphic were so B polygon count way down I feel
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like it looks very like Playstation One Twisted Metal of like super sharp edges that are partially to make it look dangerous and also like you said because it's polygon and like can't they don't
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have the the graphics drivers to do it yet um but yeah can can one of you guys this this isn't a direct quote from like the Nissan News Press release on nissan.com but this right here
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highlighting can one of you read this for me please cuz it's absurd who wants okay this is a quote
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from Nissan all right the Nissan the Nissan hyperforce is designed for racing enthusiasts and Gamers who
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crave the adrenaline rush of the racetrack but are also eco-conscious oh my God that's a pitch Gamers Gamers man
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just no one's been thinking of the race Enthusiast and Gamers together I think they have the niche market perfect there
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so many things about those there's a photo of it in real life yes so it is one St just renders it looks worse it
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looks significantly worse wait have you seen the interior mockups oh no yeah yeah wait okay so I have this I I if you
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click on the link David I want you to disc go through the gallery here and I need your like descriptive uh
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capabilities so the original car yeah looks like a it looks like a racing car that doesn't have enough polygons um the
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front grill is like way too low to the ground and also like flat it's going to scrape really easily yeah for we didn't
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mention it yet this is very much similar to the GTR the like it's the gtrr kind of body style of this like Coupe really
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long front end a wing on the back but very very I call it like a GTR by the cybertruck designer exactly um but yeah the photos you want me to look yeah I would like you to just go through those
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more towards the end when it gets to like the interior is where um there's also a couple other Nissan Concept EVS
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in there that are also wild looking my God wait what is this I'm getting there the reason that I think it's really easy to doubt that
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this will ever come out is because many reasons yeah there are many reasons but I think it's mainly in that it's Nissan
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and Nissan doesn't really do this type of thing very often the last time they did uh GTR was what 15 years ago how old was GTR I think they have a newer GTR
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than that okay but they're they don't they don't really focus on thousand plus horsepower hypercars in the same way at
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some other companies there's a current GTR did you see this photo of their entire lineup yes it's like they're
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trying to make every car they make look like a cyber truck like a game character
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but like PlayStation one it's like when they made the jeton and you're like 40 years behind trying to Envision the
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future and that looks like it's trying to show us cars from 2070 oh my God okay so which one feels more out of the norm for the company that what is this yeah that one the van oh my God the minivan
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is like if the oh man I don't even know how to describe it you took the base Cube and blender you extruded it and
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then used like a random map yeah it it feels kind of like remember the Scion what was the XB the Box the like really
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boxy one and it was a minivan and then you're just like let's make all the lines really extruded I just got to the
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interior the interior can you describe that um it looks like if you were wearing a VR headset what you would look around and see in the game you were playing yeah everything is really like
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low resolution um there are red lights everywhere the the controller SL steering the fact that you're calling the steering wheel a controller kind of describes it pretty well it's a stock
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that has a big screen on the front that tells you how fast it kind of looks like a switch like a really Hightech switch I
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got to be honest this is one of the worst renders I've ever seen this is like Tron but the one that got rejected
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for being too weird yeah as like the first iteration I see nothing good what is this okay it is so like the interior is like insanely not possible just just
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like it's similar what was that Audi um guy sitting in there do you remember that Audi one that's where like the
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steering wheel like folds out and then like it was supposed to drive you while you go snowboarding it feels like that
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concept okay yeah they have a photo of the car next to an anime character for some reason Gamers man Gamers Gamers okay well you know they certainly did
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that it's the renders look cool I would pick that car in a video game very quickly you know what this feels like
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this feels like they're trying to be be Hyundai or Hyundai but I wanted to bring
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but it's like the first sketch that Hyundai ever made of what their cars would be in six years it it reminds me of like if what was that the um oh why
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can't I remember the name of it the like hydrogen slev Hyundai concept that um yeah the um 1976 or whatever the very like um what's the Back to the Future
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car why can't I remember the the DeLorean es I think it was like the n74 yeah um correct and I both went to tell
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you at the same time Vision 74 that looks awesome yes it's like if the n74 was designed by
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somebody with class and the the hyper force was designed by a gamer yeah yeah look like a Raz in their first year of game development all right here's a question which is more of a step out of
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the norm for the company that first unveiled it the Cyber truck or this this yeah step out of the norm worm cuz Tesla had never made a truck had never made a
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pickup had never made a stainless steel weird looking box before a lot of things
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they've never done before Nissan has done a GTR they have done a two-o sports car muscle car
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thing but this one I feel like elon's brain is so Random at times that anything that feels surprising is not surprising by virtue of that fact fair I like I think if you take the
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GTR this I keep calling it the GTR the hyper force and just like bad name kind of forget about all these like flashy interior things and then maybe potentially there is something that
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looks like this later it doesn't seem as insanely unreasonable for Nissan to do it I still don't know they also talk a lot about this being like a track car so does that mean that they're going to
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have like a super low they're not trying to make this a everyday type of car that they'll sell in the masses so that's the
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thing about uh speed is like Nissan has never made a track car I don't think they've ever made a track car and do you consider the GTR track car I don't okay and so I think some people might
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disagree with you on that I would I would argue with them about that so I think the the availability of speed SL
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power because of EV powert trains is easier than ever before it seems like anyone can make a all-wheel drive quad
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motor th000 horsepower sedan I mean we've got a couple already that exist and more on the way so that part doesn't
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seem crazy it just seems like the challenge for all of them is to make it light enough and Nimble enough to
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actually be more than just a straight line monster which like Lucid I want to test thecid ER I would consider that still like a track car like straight line monster but on a track and uh more
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I mean I think I get yeah I difference between like drag racing straight line racing and like track driving like E's
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overheat and don't really perform well on tracks most of the time the best example I've ever seen is the Lucid air Sapphire which has like track modes in the car there's an endurance mode which
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is like you can do 10 laps on a normal track before it overheats or they have like a Sprint mode which is like here's
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your time attack one lap and then it will overheat SO gas cars typically don't have that sort of problem like that's the engineering challenge of making an electric track car and it's very very early days for that problem is
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Nissan going to be the one to do it I don't know they've never made a particularly incredible track car before
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so I don't really have the most faith in that that's why it's so surprising to me I think so we'll see we'll see I didn't
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answer your question I don't know which one's weirder to be honest the Cyber truck's coming out it but that's true
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yeah maybe this will come out someday I this will turn into something eventually they're 100% going to do an electric GTR
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type thing eventually it makes a lot of sense um this is what it looks like okay I'm not betting on it I hot
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take the GTR is not that good-looking either so I go back and forth on the GTR yeah I weird they kind of dig it big
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muscly car some people are going to like it sometimes you just got to be a big musly man to like it so there's so
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there's our so there's our two EV Concepts guess that got off track a little bit but what else oh we have
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another concept we do okay yeah this one is so this is weird bendy phone is back
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yeah uh this gets a little bit closer to Ellis's ultimate vision of the crumple pH bracelet so Lenovo actually first showed off this bendable phone concept uh in
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2016 and they're bringing it back 7 years later it is improved it's okay I think the best way
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to describe it is like we're used to a folding phone that has one hinge and one point of folding yeah but with OLED
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screens it's kind of like we have with that folding monitor or the bending monitor that you can go from straight to
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curved and kind of lock it in any place this is a phone where any point can bend pretty much um imagine if your phone was
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a slap bracelet I like to say imagine if your phone was developed by Joby pod yeah and the like legs of a Joby pod that can just kind of go all over the place that's what this kind of feels
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like yeah so concept um I don't apparently they've updated it since 2016 and it looks a little bit better the technology is definitely more there now
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I think that in 2016 we didn't have these um special types of fold like bendable displays now we do so it is
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something that could theoretically come out and there are weird Concepts that have come out like the TCL paper display
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phone um and other weird stuff but I very highly doubt this will actually come out I think that apparently they were only on stage with it for 2 minutes which is one whole minute long longer than they were on stage with it in
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2016 so I imagine they just kind of wanted to it was at Lenovo Tech World which is a conference that Lenovo puts
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on apparently yeah um and I think that they just wanted to come out and show that they are working on R&D projects so
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that investors put more money into Lenovo I'm pretty sure that's it yeah it has CES Vibes definitely and you this is
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one of those Concepts that you look at it and you're like that's cool but why though yeah and uh don't I don't have a
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good answer I mean yet sometimes you just got to make stuff that you're never going to
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ship so that elements of that thing might eventually ship that's true and then you get to say you ahead of the curve and you also get to maybe the
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idea that was totally un was thinking of it but you also have the idea out there so maybe some Geniuses can think of good
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ideas for it even though you didn't think of any other than slap bracelet yeah this is also a very Lenovo thing to do because they were the first ones to
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come up with with like the tent mode you know in laptops yeah that like bending like tablet they had
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um and yeah they like doing bendy stuff so there's a couple interesting ways like I think it's also kind of
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interesting to just think of how it can bend where like we're so used to just thinking of One Singular hinge that's
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right in the middle they had a couple things that are like cool for one second but I don't know maybe if people had it
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it would be more interesting but one of them was like if it's a candy bar-shaped phone that can bend anywhere they bent the bottom down just a little bit so
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then it could just stand vertically M with that at the bottom then they they did tent mode the wrist thing they're
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doing is a little different there's like a bracelet it seems like it has that then magnetically straps onto it um that
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whole wristband stuff feels a little weird I don't know I it's just that you use your phone a lot so having to like
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take the bracelet off so that you can bend the phone back into regular phone mode just every time you want to use it
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is a lie and that's my other question about this that I doubt they look for in here but if this were to come out would
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it have some sort of mode where then it locked perfectly straight because if you
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think about a Joby Tri remember a Joby pod when you first get it it's like perfect and bend it once and it is never
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straight so like imagine your phone now you're like oh I just want it to be normal and then like every time you try
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and bend it straight there's like something and just constantly corre yeah that's tough I mean yeah I would think
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they would have some sort of way to snap it flat but then again we know almost nothing about this and it's a concept I
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will say though I mean seven years after the original one we are way way further down the line in being able to make bendable displays we didn't have any
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bendable displays in 2016 so this is a big it's cool and it does seem like The Verge article about this the person who
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saw it claimed they also didn't hear a crunch this time which is reassuring so it sounds like they've definitely made
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some steps the first one in 2016 I think there's a video of this but it has this crunching noise when they Bend like the
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Royal Flex P it's exactly what I thought I don't know what that was but I'm sure that is the same noise fle sounded like
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it had sand in it from the beginning yeah sounded like you were breaking it every time cracking your knuckles or
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something props to Motorola Lenovo for doing this um it feels like since LG's been gone we don't have the weird wings
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and stuff like that so here we go I also just love how it doesn't seem to have a name and everyone just keeps call it the
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Bendy phone yeah I mean if they marketed it if they just straight up released this as the Motorola bendy I think I'd
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be I'd have to be in just so I can say that's what I have the Motorola bendy that's true i' probably wear it as an
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ankle bracelet that's who whoa I'm just saying can I can I can I make a statement okay this is a public statement okay
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I want careful careful the health features of a smartwatch but I don't want to wear a smartwatch so I've always been like can someone make something and I can wear on
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my ankle wait what about the ring I'm not wearing a ring the aura ring that's like a less intrusive than an ankle
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bracelet yeah but then either people are going to think I'm married or you don't you just wear it on what about an ankle bracelet that might be worse yeah then
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they just think you're on Homer like I don't know I mean I wish Ione to just make like smart handcuffs they a lot of people when I
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say this to a lot of people they're like they have chest monitors and I'm like that's too inter they do have a chest in a bicep monitor but yeah it's a l a lot
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I wish Apple would make a loop is basically what I want I want Apple to make a homerest bracelet for my ankle
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wait the pixel Watch 2 is kind of this no it's it's a fit bit but a little bit bigger so it's like a watch he doesn't want a I don't want a smartwatch oh you don't want to watch at all I I want to watch I just don't want a smart
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watch put the whooop on your bicep you can and they have clothing where you can like wear it in your undies and stuff
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like the little you buy special clothing the amount of times I would wash that it has a pocket wash your whoop every day
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guys I'm just saying me an ankle bracelet that's all I'm asking for I I would be interested in the ring I think
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Fitbit used to a long time ago make a thing that would go into the back of your shoe and it was just a podometer I
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don't need a podometer anymore because your phone is a really good podometer at this point but uh all the other health
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it would be cool if they could just somehow do a band that could fit underneath your regular watch band so
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then you just get the data oh that'd be cool like data that the watch couldn't get like you could attach
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like if you want a regular watch and be able to switch your watches out every day or a piece that could attach to it
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use like uh induction or I'm not that much M I'm just throwing out the ideas that I don't know how to make them happen I'm just an idea man not a not I don't know I'm not a ring I'm not a ring
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guy so it is funny to hear people describe cuz there are some pseudo smart watches that are they look like regular
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watches but they do have some like wiing smart features and stuff but funny to hear like I don't want a smartwatch I
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want a regular watch but I want it to have Smart features some of those just the tracking though you know I think
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like so smart watch fossil and tag H am I pronouncing that right they do have like regular watches that are smart
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watches but I think just in the watch game people don't love wi's for sure yeah but I don't want a smartwatch I want an ankle bracelet it sounds like we coming up with ideas for someone who
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just wants to PL bra being very clear ask for Alternatives I just want an ankle brace I bet why if wise listens to this they could have you an ankle bracelet by the end of the week I think
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if someone wants to modify like a homerest bracelet and send it to me I might use that God that's a if you have
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an extra homerest bracelet I don't know what to well that'd be cool though because then if people did see it they'd think I was hard isn't there that dog
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collar the F and you could just like strap that around your around my neck around no around your ankle I'm still
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trying to go for the ankle or you could just just wear a dog collar you still get to wear your watch mission
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accomplished like that guy seems pretty cool I think they could make choke they could make okay I think we need the ad
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break here let's I'm going to cut this off I bet you could get a lot of data from your that's the best place for
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heartbeat that's what I'm saying pretty sure yeah smart choker yep trivia Hot Topic that's your
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next tech idea right trivia topic Nissan has a history of making cars like the GTR that you guys mentioned doing a car question for mey
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is the same as doing a uh the ultim gaming question for Mar or any question for me the leaf the leaf they make a lot
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of cars is the point I'm trying to get they do what was the first one the first Nissan the first Nissan car what was it
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called ever made ever made and is it one of those that you just mentioned no since I know none of us are getting this yeah we're not if if no one gets it can
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we also write the year we think it came out and then get points for a year I also have a backup Nissan question just
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in case rather do that we can do both I mean none of us are going to get it yeah none of us know we'll get that one
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later let the audience wait for that one let them they got to need something to stick to the end nsan that can't be the
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second question though it can't be two Nissan questions wait we'll do three questions episode oh my goodness and they're all Nissan K me no one of them
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is Apple all right all right we'll get there we'll get there that's a tease for the next segment we'll answer after the break we'll be right
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shopify.com form all right welcome back now we got to talk about uh Apple's new nove
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October event is it October yeah it's October It's a Spooky event October event so they they announced a new event
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that we're all pretty sure what we're going to see but not exactly but pretty sure uh it's called scary fast and they
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sent out the invitations it's an October 30th event so the day before Halloween which is you know it's kind of spooky I guess in person Mischief Night they have said that it is a a live streamed event
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so that's all that they've said I think we're all seeing rumors of other things as well um but if you go to Apple's
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website the spooky black Apple logo turns into a finder face dark finder dark finder yeah and so that's basically all of our queue that it's probably Mac that's finder it's on the Mac it's a Mac
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thing yeah definitely yeah also it's at 8:00 p.m. yeah it's a the latest Apple event ever I don't think it's a 5:00 p.m. Pacific so 8:00 p.m. Eastern very spooky
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time the big question on all of our minds is is what is Tim Cook going to say good evening at the beginning of this keynote
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boo his whole face just shows up good evening if he does good evening dude if he actually says good even he prob has he could say it in a spooky like Count Dracula voice wait if he says good
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evening then Adam can redo the door thing to do good morning when we get in in the morning and good evening as we
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leave I can 100% do that interesting 100% loyal to Apple I think cuz obviously you can't say good morning uh
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I don't know why they chose this time it is the day before Halloween it's scary what if they recorded it in an area
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where it was morning at 8:00 p.m. on the east coast and then he still could say good morning I don't that would just be weird
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to say it even though you know it's going to be at night I don't know anyway the point is we're expecting to see some new Max probably M3 stuff yeah um and
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this I think the one that comes to my mind immediately when you say that is the iMac which has been sitting at the m
00:28:57
1 for a while the M2 Chip is out but the iMac just never got it so it's just been
00:29:02
kind of sitting around everyone's waiting for a refresh so this seems like the opportune time to refresh the iMac
00:29:08
with the new M3 chip probably 3 nanometer maybe 4 nanm not exactly sure yeah uh but an improvement to the node process there and maybe some other stuff alongside it this makes a lot of sense
00:29:21
um because traditionally when you're making like a lot of chipsets you want to put them in as many devices as
00:29:27
possible scale you make it cheap however I'm that they had M's and so and you don't know
00:29:34
what to do with those right they can't they can't just like sell them to other companies as parts so I think what they
00:29:40
did was they just put all of the extra m1's in the IMAX yeah and they just kept selling the M1 iMac until they ran out
00:29:46
of M1 chips who's the least likely to care about not getting M2 exactly probably just a colorful iMac Crow the
00:29:52
colorful imic is like the home computer computer to be fair they're totally right right it's just it's just the
00:29:59
default computer that you you don't really do anything too performance focused on and the M1 version is already
00:30:05
dramatically better than the Intel version so you're good and that's actually totally fine yeah but before we
00:30:11
get too deep into this yeah is it is it just rumors and stuff that we're thinking M3 and not yeah potentially
00:30:18
just an M2 iMac oh wow that would be really weird I just like they I have to ask okay they do super minor updates they typically can just do a press release so the fact that they're having
00:30:32
a whole announcement event says it's it's more than like we got the apple pencil with USB as a press release it's
00:30:38
got to be a bigger update than that M2 was also announced an entire year ago so I really don't think that they would
00:30:44
they would have a whole event for M2 you know what would be spooky going into an event thinking you're getting an M3 and
00:30:50
then getting an M2 iMac and then the cobwebs come in and they're like yes it's spooky yes Apple
00:30:56
would get so much negative impressed for that it would be pretty rough yeah I think we're all pretty convinced it's M3 I think the question mark is are we
00:31:02
going to get MacBook Pros as well and will it be M3 Pro and M3 Max or whatever are we going to get that stuff also at
00:31:08
this event it would be weird because the M2 um MacBook Pros and and M M2 Pro and
00:31:16
M2 Max devices got announced in January of this year and so if they did M2 Pro and Max and M3 Pro and Max in the same year that would be a really fast that be crazy we also and I might be completely
00:31:30
wrong in this the January release wasn't that kind of a weird release where there are some rumors where it might have been like pushed out of a fall release so
00:31:38
like yeah it was like that weird half hour event yeah that we thought maybe was cut out of the previous year's fall event yeah possibly so then like that could kind of still go on track if
00:31:52
you're thinking of what potentially the original release date for them would have been it's like this year but in
00:31:57
Tech World it feels like a decade ago cuz it was almost 11 months ago am I wrong that they announce the like m not pro or Max like air MacBook airs before
00:32:10
they do the pro and Max uh MacBook Pro yeah Baseline M3 stuff is always Baseline stuff is first Baseline stuff
00:32:17
is typically it would be iMac air and base iPad I guess I feel like it would make more sense to update the MacBook Air with M3 before they did the pros
00:32:28
yeah or maybe they also do that at this event or like iPad too we've talked about how uh the iPad there's still a
00:32:33
baseline iPad with uh lightning that they need to update I think Mark Gman said he doesn't expect iPads this year
00:32:40
yet I agree with you that that would make more sense and then aren't the airs and the 13-inch MacBook Pros or whatever
00:32:47
the usually in June oh the that thing why did they still make that thing that would be the spooky that's spooky M3 Ma and 13in MacBook Pro with touch
00:33:01
bar yeah um that's why this staggering of like Silicon releases and laptops through apple is so confusing because now when you've kind of skipped one we're very confused like what threw us
00:33:14
for a loop here do we have an event where we actually don't know every single thing that's coming out this is I
00:33:19
think Apple could be the company to really and this kind of Segway what we were about to talk about with Qualcomm but Apple could really be the company
00:33:26
that just gets everyone pumped about silicon if they just did that as the thing for new releases so we got M3 and
00:33:32
everything with M3 comes out at once which is iMac iPad MacBook MacBook Air whatever all that M3 comes out and then the next event you're like all right here comes M3 Pro and M3 Max and then
00:33:42
you get the MacBook Pros that have that stuff yeah and Mac Studio and then Mac Mini maybe and then lastly is the big
00:33:49
reveal of M3 Ultra and then all the stuff that goes in that Mac Studio maybe a new Mac Pro thing happens that is the
00:33:57
Cadence that I think would make the most sense yeah but that's not how it happens it's so confusing so we'll just have to
00:34:03
see I mean it's it's only a couple days away by the time you hear this when it comes out on Friday it's only like three
00:34:08
days away so it's it's coming up I'm more excited for a nighttime Apple event than I am for M3 but is that just for
00:34:14
Tim saying good evening yes okay the memes are going be hot fair I agree let's take everyone take one guess on what you think it's going to be outside of an iMac or M3 oh
00:34:27
outside of a standard iMac I should say oh like a prediction M3 Max iMac Pro so iMac Pro
00:34:41
Andrew would imply some Pro chip right M3 pro at least sure so M3 I think it just means Apple puts the name Pro on it I don't know what that actually means but we have M2 and M2 Pro in separate
00:34:55
devices so M3 being in the iMac would imply M3 Pro in the iMac Pro so that would be interesting you think they'll make an iMac Pro that's the real question we don't have an iMac Pro right
00:35:06
now yeah we have just the base iMac the iMac Pro we used to have which is a higher end zeeon chip and some you know
00:35:13
better memory and a couple other things was killed so we don't Studio kind of replaces it kind of replaces it but also at the same time with apple silicon and iMac Pro makes the most sense of like a
00:35:25
killer monitor that has all the Compu processor inside of it that's true yeah it would be cool I'm just going to go
00:35:31
out on Lim and say iMac Pro just cuz I think that would be a fun I want you to be right and speaking of things I want
00:35:36
to be right I'm just going to throw out another rumor that was in The Ether for a while which was that 7K Pro display
00:35:42
xdr sequel just going to toss that just in time for Christmas just in time to get it under the tree yeah just a nice
00:35:48
quick little 20-minute Apple event you know I wish that was considered fast although it could be fast if it had
00:35:53
promotion that's what I might yeah do that the pro display xtrs don't have promotion right right wow wait they don't they don't not even with a thousand stand not
00:36:05
even, how much would the stand on the 7K uh pro pro pro price personally of the xdr or the like the new one I don't think will be
00:36:16
$6,000 I think it'll be cheaper that would be very onapple like I feel like Apple's lowered the prices of a lot of
00:36:22
stuff recently though like the entry level pricing for everything they all if you also think about oh man we're very am I wrong I mean if you think about like mac pros and stuff it got cheaper
00:36:33
because silicon made everything so much cheaper the Mac Che that's probably what I was
00:36:39
thinking of which at this point now a pro display how much is it an xdr the exact same $6,000 that's basically the
00:36:45
same price as an almost maxed out Mac Pro now right that's crazy now Mac Pro starts at 6,000 and goes up from there to what to like
00:36:57
15 18 yeah but not 50 a maxed out Max studio is like seven or eight right exactly which is a killer machine yeah mhm yeah the monitor as much as your
00:37:10
that's crazy I got a prediction for this event let's hear it USBC accessories like the Magic Mouse the keyboard oh I I would really like that
00:37:22
oh if it came with a new iMac maybe that' be cool yeah if you ship a new iMac can't ship us a lightning keyboard
00:37:28
with that thing you you sure as hell can you can you're right you're right you can you can but like come on actually if
00:37:35
you go on with what David was saying if they just keep using the iMac to get rid of all the extra inventory they had the
00:37:41
iMac will have lightning for the next 30 years to get rid of all well the iMac never had lightning they just used
00:37:46
lightning accessories well yeah the lightning accessories well the cable that it comes with keyboard cuz it comes with the keyboard and the few billion
00:37:53
extra lightning cables if they make a magic mouse with USB but it's still in the same spot I it
00:37:59
would be it it would be oh my goodness there's nowhere else to put it what wait with the way it's designed with the way it's designed that's a huge
00:38:10
asterisk Apple can make a new mouse well they could make a magic magic mouse should make a new maybe that's my prediction A new mouse we finally A new
00:38:21
mouse Johnny I's fingerprints are no longer on everything they're allowed redesign their Mouse to God forbid have a port somewhere other than the bottom
00:38:32
and maybe a button I think youeh a button I think you somehow made the more wild prediction than my iMac Pro prediction yeah also why can't Magic
00:38:43
Mouse they have wireless mice where the the track the mouse pad is the wireless charger how is the W the Magic Mouse not done that yet the portless Magic Mouse because they don't make wireless chargers that aren't mag safe yeah yeah
00:38:56
and you can't have a Max saave mouse it just keeps snapping in the middle every time I can't use my mouse
00:39:03
it keep snapping okay my prediction is we need David's prediction safe on the top Corner top corner and you use the mouse on the top Corner the trackpad and it charges that be wait that's kind of a
00:39:15
sick idea y patent that or sell it till who makes all the exess my prediction is that Tim Cook is going to come out
00:39:22
wearing a cape okay I have the most reasonable I don't know man think he going to come out in a Dracula costume dra like pumkin
00:39:33
head it wouldn't shock me with any other company but it would with apple wait at
00:39:39
least a cape like a Halloween event and they come out in a costume and you're like at least a cape if Tim Cook came
00:39:46
out in a costume what would his costume be you're a Dracula like be a che obviously I don't know about I don't think he needs let Tim Cook I don't think he needs the teeth I think he just
00:39:57
if you have the Dracula cap you need the fake teeth I don't know if Tim If he if he if Tim's not going to wear the Vision
00:40:02
Pro publicly I don't know if he's going to count public they won't wear their own headset publicly they probably won't
00:40:07
wear Dracula costume he would wear the cape but not the teeth that's my prediction I'm going SK I stand by this
00:40:14
but in the skit he was just himself like he's he's not the most Versa Tim Cook comes out dressed as
00:40:21
Craig feder oh that's that would be epic just a wig yeah interesting oh man what's your
00:40:28
prediction yeah your costume or a product prediction I I don't know if I have like a super clear prediction I'm like pretty confused about what they're on about this time around but I will say
00:40:40
I have been using a 2017 iMac Pro at home for the past few weeks a lot and loving it so if they came out with a new iMac Pro I'd be pretty Jaz you know what I'll tell you though the M1 iMac is
00:40:52
probably just as powerful if not more powerful than your iMac Pro definitely are you kidding like and you can put it
00:40:58
in your kitchen I know no trust me me I'm fully aware I just have a 2017 iMac Pro you know what I mean with a 128 gigs on RAM um I'd have to put mine in my
00:41:09
kitchen cuz that's the only place in my apartment that doesn't have significant levels of lead what what you're not licking your
00:41:16
walls though they said my kitchen is safe but nowhere else is safe no it's fine I had I had lead pipes in Philly
00:41:22
and I turned out great so your prediction is the Mac Pro uh I would really I would really like to see an iMac Pro that would make me just happy
00:41:29
the only thing and I don't want to put um I don't want to dash the flame here but this feels like the Silicon update
00:41:37
that gets no design update yeah so you know how Apple does this thing where they do a silicon update and then the
00:41:43
next one they have the same silicon but a new design and the next one they have new silicon but the same design and they
00:41:49
do that especially with Max this feels like the one where we get the same iMac design but new Sil Sil M3 anyway well what else what else silicon related
00:41:59
happened this week well see that segue that was good that was pretty good yeah te you up for that one yeah teed uh
00:42:07
Qualcomm Tech Summit just happened yesterday uh well started yesterday they actually announced a lot of stuff and a
00:42:13
lot of stuff that is bigger news than it usually is for this uh this time of the year um that must be why they flew
00:42:19
everyone out to Hawaii well they do that every year oh yeah they've done that for like six years in a row oh they didn't
00:42:25
fly me out yeah you said everyone um okay so there's actually a lot of stuff here so
00:42:31
obviously we got Snapchat grate gen 3 um which is they say gen gen AI focused chip I'm very curious about this yeah for the last like few like year or so they keep putting out these little hints
00:42:44
of like look how fast we can do image generation on a Snapdragon now and they were focusing on that a lot for some
00:42:51
reason um it apparently supports a chatbot trained on meta llama 2 that can accept image text and voice input um it runs a stable diffusion
00:43:02
image gen on device that they say can do image generation in less than one second damn which is quite fast okay uh it
00:43:09
supports generative fill for video or image expans oh gender fill for image expansion on device um it has an object
00:43:18
eraser for video oh my God which is like magic eraser but for video on device which is pretty crazy yeah um and does night mode it can do night mode recording at 4K 30 which Google can now
00:43:32
do with the pixel 8 Pro but only in the cloud but it does on device so this is all interesting because if you were to
00:43:39
ask me like who is the most well-positioned as a company to do the AI stuff on ship and have the most smart
00:43:47
AI phone it would be Google with their tensor chip right then we just got pixel 8 and pixel 8 Pro with a whole bunch of
00:43:54
these features but when you actually do them on the phone they all they rely on an internet
00:44:01
connection and sending stuff to the cloud like when you open the magic editor it won't open that photo with mag
00:44:07
magic editor unless your photo is already backed up in Google photos upload Google photos so what I'm
00:44:13
guessing happens is you go through your edit process on the phone and then it sends those instructions to the file
00:44:18
that's in the cloud and all that AI processing stuff happens in the cloud and it sends the result back down to
00:44:24
your phone yeah you need an internet connection so what happened to the whole on device AI thing I thought that was what we were going to do with tensor
00:44:31
they were doing that for like ambient Computing a couple of things they're definitely doing it for a couple things especially the voice to speech toex
00:44:37
stuff super fast but like all these features that you're talking about generative AI happening on the device in
00:44:43
one second that would be a much better than what tensor is doing all of this gen stuff I think took a lot of people
00:44:49
by surprise and a lot of these companies needed to like pivot last minute to supporting that and accelerating that um
00:44:55
obviously Google has had generative AI capability since 2017 but they've been focusing on like ambient Computing with
00:45:02
tensor and that kind of AI and then I think because of the popularity of generative AI in the last year all of
00:45:08
these companies have been like we got to Pivot we got to Pivot which is kind of crazy speed that they're pivoting
00:45:13
because like almost all of the features they announced for um Snapdragon 8 gen 3
00:45:19
are gen focused which means that in the last year they were just like scrap everything had planned because they planned these chip sets out like three or four years in advance yeah um and
00:45:31
they really like shifted Focus to that I don't know it's kind of weird that they're
00:45:37
focusing so much on those things and I'm not really sure like how much like stable diffusion people are going to be
00:45:43
doing on their phones and all of this also needs to then work correctly with the like this obviously Android but the operating system that's also from each
00:45:53
manufacturer right so like it has all these things but then still they have to implement it inside of their camera software or
00:45:59
whatever so which some of them will they will yeah it just feels like there's a lot of steps here that has to do it it's
00:46:06
also I'm very surprised to see that there it's using meta's llama to F like that's very not what I was expecting Qualcomm would train their own or or I I
00:46:18
would have picked Chachi PT with Microsoft like for some reason it felt like they would they already they
00:46:24
already work with Microsoft on the um on the arm chips that Microsoft put in the their arm surface devices I mean good
00:46:31
for meta and just shows that getting in some of this AI stuff like and having your own chared way less the licing is
00:46:40
possibly yeah but these couple companies that really got out ahead and can license it to other companies are going
00:46:46
to make a lot of money yeah they are I mean it depends on how close they they're working with manufacturers we
00:46:51
usually see like the first devices with this new chipset as like early as a couple months after it gets announced like we could see a Asus gaming phone in February with a gen 3 and they could
00:47:03
have some of these features built right into the software yeah taking advantage of it yeah and I think they will um some
00:47:08
other features that they announced later they said that they already have manufacturers that are going to release devices in a couple of months so they've
00:47:15
clearly been working on this for a while okay um there's another thing that I find there's two more major
00:47:21
announcements from the show uh one is the qualcon S7 and S7 Pro audio chipsets um which generally you know they have like minor improvements and they're like oh yeah we can do a
00:47:32
higher bit rate now there's new Snapdragon sound all this stuff but this year they added something called micro
00:47:38
Wi-Fi um which is really cool basically what happens is now the audio in your phone can use Wi-Fi to transfer to your earbuds oh so your earbuds can can
00:47:51
basically stream over your Wi-Fi network to your phone which is controlling it so
00:47:57
almost like a CH cast like how like a chomecast is kind of controlled by your phone but it's over your Wi-Fi network
00:48:03
so it can go you can go wherever which is awesome um because like yeah Bluetooth both doesn't have super high bit rate support and it doesn't have a a
00:48:13
longdistance support do sometimes I'm charging my phone in my bedroom and I'm like doing the dishes and it the audio
00:48:19
is cutting in and out yeah and so being able to do that over Wi-Fi is very cool um using Wi-Fi also supports a lot
00:48:26
higher uh bandwidth for audio streaming so they say they can do 92 khz lossless audio over Wi-Fi Jesus um which is pretty dope obviously you need supported headphones um surprisingly they said
00:48:39
that Wi-Fi used to take up a lot more power but they were able to get it down to the same power usage as Bluetooth so
00:48:45
it supports the same 10hour battery life on the same Power Cell um and then they have a new Dynamic
00:48:51
transparency mode that's similar to what Apple added in the in the airpods and they said that they can shift transparency up and down granular granularly based on the sounds that
00:49:03
you're hearing outside so if you're biking and you pass like a car that like beeps at you or something it'll shift
00:49:08
transparency mode like partially up so you can hear the beeping but it's still kind of isolated yeah which is nice cuz
00:49:14
I hate it when it just like totally turns off um noise cancellation and then turns on trans oh yeah um yeah so they
00:49:22
said that supported headphones with these features are going to be released in the coming months but you will obviously need a Snapdragon
00:49:27
8 gen 3 device for it to work so usually though at these shows they um they keep moving the show up up and up and up like uh snapon T
00:49:39
Summit used to happen in December then it started and I was getting confused janary for some that's I thought it was
00:49:45
January yeah I think it started originally in January then it was December then it was November and then
00:49:51
now it's October and the reason is because this is just inside baseball that I've heard heard the reason is
00:49:56
because manufacturers keep bidding to be the first manufacturer to release a Snapdragon the new chip set yeah and they keep being like well we have our device our new flagship planned for X
00:50:09
month so we would really like to have it by this time and they're paying qualcom a ton of money so they move the event up
00:50:17
so if we want to speculate off that yeah good chance Samsung which releases a big phone early in the season yeah yeah but
00:50:25
they they always have the the new chipset yeah but they've also been being released earlier and earlier it feels
00:50:31
like every year felt like March than it was like February then was like the beginning of February it also could be like xiaomi or Oppo that have like a
00:50:37
phone in December something true you know yeah I kind of think it's probably going to be something like that um they
00:50:45
also announced something called Snapdragon seamless which I don't I would like to see actually working but it's apparently a crossplatform
00:50:51
technology that enables Android windows and Snapdragon devices to basically discover and share information as one integrated operating system meaning you can drag and drop files like seamlessly
00:51:03
between all of these different os's which is pretty interesting I think they want to do that because they are like
00:51:09
you know Snapdragon laptops and all this stuff like Windows on arm and then you've got a tablet that's Android and
00:51:14
you've got all this stuff yeah um that's pretty that's pretty weird and interesting I think that we've been seeing Windows supporting Android more
00:51:22
and more over the years um so I think they're just like teaming up to try to fight against Apple's like ecosystem stuff but I think the biggest news out of the show is this new uh chipset that
00:51:35
called Snapdragon X Elite um and it's a laptop chipset that they claim is 50% faster than at multi-thread than M2 um but it also has 50% more cores and
00:51:49
takes double the power oh so who cares more power yeah that's a real that's a real Target demo which I could run twice as fast if I had four
00:52:01
legs I'm going to plug in my laptop and I don't really care what my battery I mean if it was plugged in I would rather it would be fast you know it's it's like
00:52:08
the um the accelerated power mode of the 16-in MacBook Pro yeah and it's just a thermal envelope question after that yeah they had a lot of graphs that were really dumb CU they weren't labeled nice
00:52:20
who does that everybody everybody yeah everybody uh but it's going to be 4 nmet and can uh and will include up to or will include 136 GB of memory bandwidth
00:52:33
yeah which is a lot yeah um for is that wait for that's sh sorry I'm in M2 mode so that's just GPU uh or shared probably shared okay
00:52:46
yeah that's a lot uh PCS with it are expected to ship in mid 2024 um it's good that they're actually
00:52:52
investing more in the arm Computing stuff stu um this also comes among reports that AMD and Nvidia are going to
00:52:59
launch arm PCS as soon as 2025 so it seems like there's kind of a major shift towards arm mhm and uh Intel needs to get on that pretty soon otherwise they're going to be the only
00:53:10
x86 player left in the game yeah I think their major advantage now is that they have they're shipping chipsets that are
00:53:17
uh 6 GHz like out of the box for like big PCS but these arm chipsets are going to surpass them pretty quickly does this feel a little bit like how Toyota was so ahead in the hybrid game and now is so
00:53:29
behind in the EV game like become the standard for the like the next step and then stay on that step for so long and then start to get surpassed yeah yeah and they're not Nimble enough to like
00:53:42
pivot hard yeah yeah so it would be nice if this actually worked um they've worked with Microsoft before to release arm chipsets for laptops like Windows on arm and it's traditionally been terrible
00:53:54
did yes well yeah Surface Pro X and I think they released a second version but they
00:54:00
have like no adoption nobody buys them only like one or two devices come out with the chipset so this theoretically
00:54:07
is going to be in a lot more manufacturers um laptops so yeah and if it's Arm based then there'll it'll be easier to have that like seamless transition between um that device and
00:54:18
like your phone and stuff too so yeah I think that's about it for that that's I I weird the do I agree with you I think my favorite thing is this headphones Wi-Fi thing mhm I think that's really
00:54:31
sick yeah just being able to like stream audio from your wi is it going to do that thing where like if I'm also on the
00:54:37
Wi-Fi network I can just take over your headphones you know when you're in a like I was just in an Airbnb with a
00:54:43
bunch of people on the same Wi-Fi network and we were like streaming the game on chomecast always using things for evil Marcus never the controls just
00:54:50
pop up on my phone and I'm like I could ruin the whole thing right now I could just change it that would be something
00:54:55
to consider yeah yeah um the last apartment that I lived in we had a uh we had a nest tub mini in the bathroom and every time I would shower I would tell it to play some music and then like 2
00:55:07
minutes later it would either just stop or start playing other music that I was like I don't like this music why is and
00:55:14
it was Michael at work playing cuz it was connected to his Spotify account so I kept changing it and forgetting that it was yeah go I was just going to say like sometimes driving home my music would
00:55:26
stop because Claire would like ask Google to use it and that was on my Spotify account and so like it would
00:55:32
change everything I I have literally the same thing but when I originally sold my car it was logged into Spotify and I
00:55:39
couldn't figure out how to kick it off I would be listening to music on the way home and it would change to some
00:55:44
oldies and I was like what how does it keep changing and it turns out the person was using my Spotify account
00:55:51
until I got it to how do they not have some sort of thing that wipes all of the cuz you sold it back to Tesla right or
00:55:58
how do they not wipe your accounts off of it yeah that's a huge security problem actually yeah that's a massive security issue that was a bummer I think I had to change my whole Spotify
00:56:08
password or something and then like for to log out eventually yeah dang it was a good time so that guy eventually like
00:56:15
logged into Spotify on the car one day and was like oh Spotify is gone or he has ads now like and or something like
00:56:21
that yeah anyway all right all right we should take a quick break we got a bunch more to talk about after it but before
00:56:27
we do that what's uh what's the other niss trivia please don't make it Nissan we we'll do the other Nissan one at the very very end that that's a fun and silly one this one's a this is a Ser
00:56:39
this is serious business guys oh all right we all know we all know and love the four finder views right let's say them all together ready
00:56:50
[Music] guys the first one no no you can the first one is icons list columns Galler great okay but one of them was not actually developed and designed by
00:57:08
Apple it was developed and designed by another company called Next that Steve Jobs was partying at for a little bit
00:57:16
partying partying didn't he found it founding is partying just ask s bank with free deep cut all right which one of those four finder views I can you name
00:57:28
them again just for the audience I list Gallery what's the difference between icons and gallery we'll have to I actually also
00:57:42
wonder wait how does I am I the only who knows this is icon's like a small thumbnail in gallery is like a big thumbnail gallery is like the coverflow and icons are what is aover and then in
00:57:54
like now I know where it like Scrolls through like oh remember remember why would you use that album art yeah on the iPod Touch you turn it sideways and it would it was like a rack what was that
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one called Gallery Galler Galler and then in icons you can control the size of IC icons is way better than Gallery
00:58:11
who would use Gallery columns for life I like list the list is the best Windows wait list do I use well the most important thing about list is you can see date changed or date created and so
00:58:25
many times I'm looking at my files and I need to see sorted by date wait but in list you can also change the size of the
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thumbnail right I thought columns is sorted colums is not sorted I think in columns you can change the size of the thumbnail and I just always have col the
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thumbnail being big you mean icons yeah you mean icons wa is that really icons also I don't think you can change the
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size of the icons and anyway we'll be right back I can't T cuz I'm a Windows I'm on Chromebook right now it's going to be a everyone laugh at
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the Chromebook wait Mar Marquez is going to De beta test us for all of us I'm using a
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pain hey man well I'll be right [Music] back welcome back uh we have a couple quick news stories for you here
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basically the White House had a live stream and it included Apple Oh I thought it was Joe playing fortnite I wish that' be better um yeah so apple is
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basically adopting this right to repair movement that they were forced to do in California
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Nationwide yeah so the headline is Apple offering independent repair shop uh shops parts tools documentation at reasonable prices now California forced
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them to do this um that they had to adopt recently and so now they're spinning it as if they're doing it on
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their own accord for the rest of the nation and uh USC exactly yeah that's that's what I wrote down it's kind of the same thing that happens with USBC where like they're forced by someone to do it and it becomes kind of annoying to
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have two different ways to do it so they just decide you know if we're going to have to do it for one we might as well
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adopt some Goodwill throughout the industry and just do it everywhere yeah um so yeah it's still a net positive
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overall yeah than yeah and Apple so kind of I would I would be interested in what leis Rossman
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has to say about all of this probably a lot probably a lot what he always has to say he's happy and still mad at
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something yes yeah which is great it's good for all of us stay mad stad stay mad mad but in a good way in a good way
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productive mad productive mad yeah so definitely a quick hit but good to know I mean always always great with right to
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repair and now we have the biggest story of the day the possibly one of the largest AI inventions ofre yeah genre defining YouTube music now lets you make
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your own playlist art with AI playlist art M ah so you make a playlist and you're like I don't want just one of the albums to be the whole playlist I want to make my own art I think Spotify and YouTube music both do it as the first
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four songs in the playlist it basically just makes like a stupid grid with those four album Arts but now you can make
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your own AI this really really feels like one of those things where this new technology comes out specifically with
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AI new generative generative AI comes out and everyone's just like we don't like we didn't like have a need for this but everyone's doing it so we have to figure out how to fit it in but I got to
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have an AI feature I kind of like the silly ones like this though because then it's not like it's not some like random
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one that's potentially spreading misinformation through like incorrectly making sources look bad this is just
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like a fun thing you can do and I like okay so this is just a quick aside I upgraded to chat GPT Plus for a month just because I wanted to like see if I could actually start to integrate it
01:02:09
into my workflow at all and it comes with Dolly 3 Dolly got rid of the little like Dolly um waterm Mark in the bottom corner they don't do it anymore and like
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I know that's easy to remove but it seems weird that they just decided to stop using it that does because now you
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have no way to know that it's like AI generator is that because you went to the paid account or because it's Dolly 3
01:02:32
you can only use Dolly 3 if you have a paid account and I thought it was supposed to always do the watermark as like a preventative feature yeah just
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like a little Watermark like if you're just going to turn around and tweet this with a screenshot just like immediately you can see that Watermark like okay
01:02:45
this is generated by Dolly they got rid of it but I think they were the only ones to even do it in the first place
01:02:50
which wasn't probably true which is not great like Runway doesn't I mean probably true but at least it was like good willll you know it was like it kind of exemplifies this whole thing
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right like at the very beginning everyone's being really careful everyone's being really cautious they
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released this thing they're just like this out Works uh it's not very good there's a watermark and then when the
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rest of the industry just blows up and start using starts using it all the roadblocks just get taken B comes in
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like a wrecking ball and everyone's like all right you can talk to our features now it'll just say you want think about
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how much less funny M cheda would be with a little watermark in the bottom I don't know what you're talking about what's m ched just Google Mr cheddar it's just a mid Journey it's a mid-journey image that turned into a
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meme that's just ungodly exactly wait that's a mid Journey image think about how much less funny that would be if it
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said mid Journey at the I had no idea that was a mid Journey image that's amazing I I like though how early on
01:03:48
Dolly was like here's these pictures we're creating that are very obviously fake because we can kind of get the idea
01:03:56
going on that has a watermark to prove it's fake but now that we're really good and Ultra believable let's take it off I
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know it was like they couldn't do hands before and now they can do hands perfectly and they take away their Watermark it's like what is going on it
01:04:08
feels backwards nobody is concerned about this now okay speaking of things that felt the need to add AI but kind of
01:04:16
in a tasteful way have you guys tried this Spotify DJ wait wait wait wait before we get to that I have that
01:04:21
written down but can we talk about the YouTube music thing really quick just it so pretty much when you have the album
01:04:26
art you can you don't get to do a full prompt basically there's categories like animals and travel and landscape and colors and then you click onto that and then through that you get a couple more
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things like in the style of renissance painting or in the style just like the generative wallpapers on Android yeah so
01:04:44
like you don't get to fully do the prompt of like big bird with a gun you have to kind of do something a little
01:04:50
more like reasonable but before we get to that I just want to know David if you were doing your bangers only playlist AI generated album art I'm asking G GP what
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it should be that that is a really difficult question okay I'll let you think on that because it would be boring
01:05:08
if it was just like sound waves or some headphones but like it would be risque if it was anything else so I'm asking
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gb4 okay and while you do that I know you mention Spotify DJ the other day Spotify it's another one of those things where it's like Spotify you don't have to do AI like I know AI is popping off but not everyone has to do it but
01:05:25
Spotify managed to uh decide to make a pretty useful interesting AI feature next to all the rest of my playlist or whatever there's just a DJ button you hit it and it's this AI generated uh
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voice hey how you doing good to have you here you're with your djx going to get right into it today with the trip down
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memory lane the year was 2016 and these were I'm your DJ I'm going to walk you through some songs here I'm start off
01:05:50
with some summer hits that you listen to and some new stuff to keep you on your toes you eventually get get through the same like you start hearing the same
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things it but as a DJ functionally it's actually pretty good I noticed it starts
01:06:04
fading in andout songs at the beginning of the chorus if I've heard the song A lot it won't play the entire song It'll
01:06:11
fade in play the first two verses instead of all three and then fade out to the next one but if it's a new song
01:06:16
I've never heard before it'll let me hear the entire song and it's really eerily good at fading in and out at the
01:06:23
correct point in the song and I think that's also Ai and I'm pretty impressed it's pretty good that's impressive so I've been using it a lot sounds like it's gotten a lot better since it first launched I mean I haven't tried it
01:06:34
recently it still is the same voice for everyone it still goes hi my name is X yeah I'm GNA be your DJ for a while
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here's some songs to keep you on your toes I think my biggest problem was just like it is just those like four
01:06:46
playlists that it recommends to me on my homepage every day and just like with a a silly little interlude in between of
01:06:53
like you you listen to this in the summer and it's the winter so listen to it now while you're getting depressed by
01:06:59
the early Sunset there's been a couple of uh interesting themes that it's chosen one of them was we're just going to give you a bunch of Canadian rappers which is like okay it's just Drake and
01:07:11
then one of them was here's a bunch of songs from artists you used to listen to a lot but they were different songs by those same artists I thought that was interesting there was another one that
01:07:21
was here are some of your like top hits from summer and I don't even remember what I played during the summer but it
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knows it's got the dates of plays so there are some good ones there are also a bunch of that I just skipped right
01:07:32
through that were just like here's some jazz I'm like why what are you doing I've never like I've never voluntarily
01:07:39
selected Jazz like and I just skip like five songs in a row and it's like all right moving on yeah so it does it tries
01:07:45
to mix it up a little bit okay so I asked chat gbt for if uh if there was an album if there was album art for the playlist bangers only what should it look like also real quick when I was
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typing this I wasn't sure would the playlist be called bangers only or is bangers only.net the name of it no
01:08:02
matter what whether it's the URL or not you're right it should be bangers only.net I think it should be bangers
01:08:07
the playlist should be called bangers only.net sure do I need to ask it again I think I think we can
01:08:13
just I think we can just read bangers only.net wherever it would have put that okay so design concept electrified beat
01:08:21
background deep black representing the depth and quality of the bangers occasional bright neon uh streaks
01:08:28
darting across symbolizing the burst of energy in the tracks centralized image a stylized neonlit headphone or speaker
01:08:35
that's vibrating and pulsating I said I didn't want head whatever this would represent the essence of the music and
01:08:40
the raw power of the bangers can you can you put that into Dolly now well I was just going to say I
01:08:47
was going to give it to Tim we're sending this to Tim after this I'm going to put it into Dolly okay
01:08:53
these are f dude that top right one is sick I can feel the intensity of the bangers you
01:09:00
can feel the intensity of the bangers can you describe it this is me we kind of described it so yeah I mean basically
01:09:05
it's like this neon space area with like this lasers coming out of the ground with with Audio Waves and then there's a vinyl record with some neon headphones
01:09:16
and inside the headphones it says bangers only and one of the planets is like Saturn but it's ALS it's also
01:09:25
vyl yeah so Dolly can you text now yeah it's really good at texting it sometimes
01:09:30
messes it up but it's really good at text now wow these are all really good that one feels very like Spotify this is
01:09:36
what it would look like if I needed album art for bangers only yeah that's sick although if I I think YouTube music
01:09:42
one could do that no YouTube music probably can't do this but all right well this is probably a good point to
01:09:47
jump directly to our [Music] trivia all right trivia all right so quick update on the score Marquez and David tied with 11 oh
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Andrew with one two my goodness three you know this has become a bit this has become a bit like people post this on Twitter now I'm aware I'm aware I have nine nine catching up C up yeah way
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behind us no he's got nine wait what do they have I just don't listen usually first question oh gosh what was the
01:10:27
first car that Nissan made called and I will also accept the year that it was released and it was not called Nissan at the time no but that doesn't really matter it's just the name of the car cuz
01:10:39
apparently it changed names a bunch of times so oh God we're all going to get this wrong my marker doesn't work at all oh
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no wait is it in Korean no it's a Japanese Japanese yeah I mean compan country Japanese company so yes it is in Korean is it in Japanese can one of you guys grab a different
01:11:05
marker I have enough here you want use mine flip him and read racer I put Nissan racer nope I just put Ultima cuz that's a one they
01:11:18
have now nope I put sedan nope nice are we going to be like upset when we hear this is it like something obvious we definitely no you won't know do you want to tell us that now or do we want to go
01:11:29
for the Age part the say now that the d d a t the D that's sick they should bring that back I already wrote my but just seeing what the D that looks like my guess for this time is so wrong yeah
01:11:43
what years did you guys put I put 78 I put 71 nope I put 82 I'm guessing it's really old it's 1914 what this is what it looks like and then right under it it said the date but
01:11:55
I had already down wow it's like a Model T it looks very model I think every car that came out near the Model T looked
01:12:02
like a Model T yeah yeah yeah same way every car that comes out in 2023 looks like
01:12:09
cybertruck the hyper Force deep cut all right give us that other quick Nissan question who's your name well first we
01:12:15
got to do the fin oh you want to do that one first okay finder we all know and love the four finder views not going to
01:12:21
make you same again unless you need me two I need you two they are icons list columns and gallery which one of them was developed at
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[Music] next we can't let Andrew catch us no I have a feeling we all guessed the same thing on this uh really no I don't have that
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feeling I just I just have no information as to why we would have guessed from that reaction like never
01:12:54
mind I don't think we did I mean I don't know we might have I mean I would like to see let's find out oh wow we did did
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I was right okay and what did you all guesser and you're all wrong it was columns really really yeah they didn't have columns before that Apple couldn't think of columns uh specifically not
01:13:14
Miller columns which is the design term for having multiple cascading uh sub columns next to each other anyway you want to do my Nissan question yeah okay can I give my reasoning for gallery sure
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okay so yeah apple they had they it was the whole like skoric thing right like with the iPod having the having the gallery where like coverflow like kind of thing and
01:13:39
that all seems like it was a very Steve Jobs decision because he was very into that skoric stuff wait but if you
01:13:46
thought he was into that why did you guess it as a thing that somebody else developed it wasn't somebody else he developed oh he was at at the other
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place yeah okay he was well he partying right forgot partying column seems horrible yeah what anyway you want to do my wacky Nissan question sure let I'll
01:14:05
get another one wrong everyone check the slacks there's a dock there's a dock oh my God check the slack why didn't you
01:14:11
put this in um oh my gosh there's a dock there's a dock it's which one is fake our favorite game here on waveform I
01:14:17
wish I had music for you generate these in post I'm going to add some like funky to add some excitement cuz it's our favorite game I'm making stuff up
01:14:27
again nice all right so I have four Nissan Concept cars in front of you we were talking about how weird Nissan's Concepts were today one of them I made up let's go through them the Nissan poo
01:14:39
from 2005 it's a 300 oh and I copied all this text from Wikipedia 360° rotating three-seater cabin on a Chassy of four wheels which eliminates the need for reversing and making parking easier
01:14:52
that's David do you want to describe what we're looking at at the Nissan poo um you know in Jurassic world how the
01:14:59
little boys get into the pods and then it brings you through orbs circular it basically looks like that but then there's like it's on a wheel base on top of that
01:15:10
yeah it's on a hey this is circular and could roll yeah oh that would be dangerous so let's put it on Wheels yes
01:15:16
that's right up next we got from 2001 the Nissan Nails the Nissan Nails is a powered by a front mounted 1.5 L inline 4 engine producing around 100 horsepower
01:15:28
with power going to the front wheels it features a twodo two-seater pickup body style with body panels that Nissan
01:15:34
claims are manufactured to be dent and scratch resistant this is a tiny truck Marquez you want to describe what we're looking at here Fisher Price Truck baby blue absolutely no features it's sick
01:15:47
this looks like it was shot with a tilt shift lens cuz it looks like it's a little toy it does very small up next
01:15:53
the Nissan is that a one-seater did you say that two two seater two-seater oh the Nissan nuu from 2009 is a three
01:16:01
seater though it is a compact all electric city car with two plus one seating solar panels shaped like tree
01:16:08
leaves on the RO that channel the sun's power through a tree trunk conduit in the center of the vehicle I know Adam
01:16:15
zoom in on my face that's some CES stuff right there I want that car Adam would you like to describe what we're looking at the Nissan new UA the nuu is a bronish kind of cute
01:16:28
looking car looks like it was out of Dr Seuss almost very squirky it looks like the um an egg wait no who's the
01:16:35
character in Mario Kart that pulls you out of the when you fall off the map oh yeah doesn't this kind of look like it
01:16:41
face yeah same color to last but not least we have the Nissan UA or UVA couldn't find conclusiveness on that it's a concept sports car built in 2017 with a straight engine and specially
01:16:53
engineered mu muffler for urban environments think about which one is fake folks wait so by fake do you mean not manufactured or as in I made it up entirely well this one has a
01:17:05
supercars.net branding on it maybe I made that up too also the last one just kind of looks like the majority of the concept cars that come out now hard lines big wheels
01:17:22
but it door from this or I guess last decade now it looks at least new and I think I remember that
01:17:28
so all right what do we got I put nails wow that's real dang I put P also real really put nails unfortunately I made up the UA and generated that image with AI
01:17:43
that really looks like I guess I a Nissan Concept I should have guessed that considering it's the only normal
01:17:49
looking one which is funny yeah it's bronze too which is I need to give I need to give Ella some credit here because I thought I was
01:18:01
smart pause there clip that if you want but in this document three of the four Images have links like a Wikipedia thing would be I picked the one that didn't have the link thinking Ellis forgot to
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make it look like over no I didn't instead Ellis put fake Wikipedia links inside of his description for the last
01:18:21
one wait fake make seem like he did cuz he made this up but he still put Wikipedia links to potential other
01:18:28
articles that had a minor feeling that the one that looked the most real was probably the the most fake what should
01:18:33
have thrown it off was this looks like a concept that should be in the next 5 years and it's from 2017 yeah and that it has a muffler no
01:18:42
that looks like it would have been made in 2017 as a concept car I don't this feels newer and that would be an EV and
01:18:48
wouldn't have a now newer cars all look like cyber trucks trivia God strikes again is all I'm saying all I'm saying
01:18:54
is I want that noo baby so just real quick totaling up the points 0 Z and zero nice nice all uh all in a day's
01:19:02
work all in a day's work if you got any of them right let us know tell how dumb we are in the comments because you totally got it and we didn't you are an
01:19:09
audio listener right and got the last car one if you got that correct Bravo you get 10 points and are already beating me in trivia uh signing off
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catch you guys in the next one PE please I don't know what you just did to the microphone but I don't know you're
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like waveform was produced by Adam alen and Ellis Ren were're partner with VOX media podcast Network and our TR music
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was created by vain [Music] Sil well let's uh this could be a studio show right here is this is the old back logo one or two people definitely one
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that would be a great short that's one definitely one okay the program changed his name as to the computer as a result
01:20:11
The Friendly logo with the words maos appeared the first part was color the different colors of the faces
01:20:18
with an S it's a face not not on the emblem symbolized a friendly Monitor and a smiling user oh it's this guy staring at his computer monitor