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start at iPhone we at 50 minutes already good jeez Snapchat deserves all the time yeah it won't be in the title but it will be 35 minutes before the iPhone
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surprise yo what is up people of the internet welcome back to the 250th episode of the waveform podcast
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we're your hosts I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David and and uh another week another bunch of new gadgets and and
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stuff to talk about uh a bunch of the Apple videos from the stuff that just got got announced are now out so if you
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guys check your subboxes you'll probably see some of that stuff the headphones the watch the phones but also there's
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some other stuff the Snapchat spectacles there's some headphones that we're testing and we're going to wrap it all up with a little game we want to play
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yeah I was right like writing a little bit of podcast this morning and I looked at episode 250 and at first 250 episodes
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that does not seem like a lot because there's you're like oh you know there's 365 days in the year but then you think
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about weeks yeah and it is nearly four years without a Miss it's actually longer cuz cuz we got bonus episodes well and it was um so it's less every
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other week for a little while so it's longer time wise yeah oh wow four plus without a miss it says a lot about how in the trenches we are with this show that we're like 250 is nothing we'll
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we'll we'll see you at a thousand yeah yeah episod hit me up at the next digit anyway first we have a little PSA for all you guys out there we do yeah so
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now that uh iOS 18 and the iPhone 16 series is out part of iOS 18 is RCS messaging and I just need I need to do a little PSA because I was seeing a lot of chatter on threads a little bit of on
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Twitter but mostly on threads of people that think that RCS is replacing iMessage it is no Adam you're spreading misinformation people think what I know
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look to their credit RCS is not the most like consumer friendly branding right RCS messaging Rich communication Services most people don't know what that means that said SMS is also a
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confusing acronym I feel like it doesn't need branding it just is getting to the point of being the default and then no
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one needs to even care about it yeah so okay so weirdly enough Apple gives you the option to turn off RCS messaging on
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the iPhone which seems dumb but I guess you can also turn off IM message so maybe they wanted to just have parody there but I saw a bunch of messages of people turning off RCS because they were
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like why would I use RCS when I have iMessage and I'm like oh God here we go that's wild so oh my God Adam zoom in on
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my face in 2011 oh God Apple had an app called text which would later become the messages app the text app was the SMS app then in
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iOS 5.0 Apple just added the iMessage protocol on top of the texting app and they renamed the app to messages they wanted to give the impression that now texting is just better except it was
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only better with your iPhone friends so the messages app is not iMessage a lot of people say but I use iMessage and they think that they're using iMessage the app no it is the
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messages app with the iMessage protocol sitting on top of SMS as fallback now when you text an Android User let him cook the SMS protocol is not the default
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protocol now it will be RCS which is Rich communication Services which gives you things like red receipts chat
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bubbles inline replies group messages that you can like leave and enter at will high quality image and video support it is basically most of the default I'm message upgrades but for
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everybody there is no reason to turn it off there is no reason to turn it off some people say oh but it doesn't have
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uh encryption yet which is true and is lame and they are working on but also SMS also does not have encryption yeah so just use RCS you gain nothing all
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you're doing is making your chats with Android users way better there is no reason to turn it off that is my PSA
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yeah I think the other PSA is for the complete opposite side of that is for all of your family and friends who
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aren't going to who don't update their phones or maybe have an Android phone that don't haven't turned on RCS yet
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because it's not a default in like an older phone tell them to turn it on because it will make life for you so
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much better yes unfortunately on Android phones you have to use Google messages generally to have RCS chats so if you've
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got like a relative that uses Samsung messages or Verizon Messages Plus or something
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like that they might be hopeless have them download Google messages but try try it's really hard to get it is hard
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if someone is using Verizon messages baby steps yeah yeah think of the type of person that's using Verizon Messages
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Plus and how hard it is to get them to switch their default messaging app I know just do it and don't tell them but
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try yeah try Apple has made or not Apple Google has made a lot of uh relationships with all these like
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carriers and from the phone manufacturers where now Google messages is the default messaging app even they
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even got Samsung to get rid of their dumb messaging app and now Google messages as the default app yeah anyway
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um texting is better don't turn off RCS just don't do it don't commit crimes we were talking in the car this morning about how insane it is that there's this like small sliver of people that know
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enough about technology to even know what RCS is and to go in their phone and know to like turn it off but not know
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enough about tech to think that r c s is like wiping out iMessage because most people but I and
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and then these posts are on thread and blue sky so they also be te enough to like be on these platforms but somehow I
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love you whoever you are thank thanks for existing in this slim margin of societ I do kind of get it because
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people think iMessage and they think texting on the iPhone they don't think of the messages app which has iMessage
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as a protocol on top of SMS fallback which I understand you don't just think of protocols I do
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every night the second you the second you say protocol is people's eyes glaze over they're like
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what how about messages here here's an even shorter version of the PSA okay when you open messages and you've got
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those blue bubbles that's IM message that's great when you've got green bubbles that's been SMS for years that's
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terrible but now it's better it's RCS it's closer it's not blue yet but it's better it yeah yeah it'll never be blue but it'll never be blue it's better anyway uh update your phones people
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don't turn off RCS people I also wanted to call out uh there was a thread on threads about people were like I updated
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my phone to iOS 18 and it's crazy that Apple's allowing for you to like lock down certain apps with face ID this is another thing that's like deeply
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embedded in the settings and I'm just surprised that like I feel like the iOS updates reach more General audiences than like an Android update does does
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yeah they get pushed day one to everyone who has like the last two years three four years of phones I mean the nice
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thing is that it like updates overnight and you don't even have a say in it a lot of the time so I think you at least
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have to hit accept once maybe yeah but then yeah it's just overnight yeah so so all right great update your phones always and make your family update their phones do it for them I really like that
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you both just repeated update your phones after I said it that was pretty awesome what he said yeah all right
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next take us into this next story Andrew all right new snap spectacles you guys remember snap
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spectacles oh do I I remember the original snap spectacles the yellow ones yeah those things have you have them
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cute little I love these it was just a a little circular yeah the lens in the corner would shoot circular video Yeah
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MH and then when you played it back on your phone you could turn the phone and it would just play back any part of a
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video spal video yeah this was they look so dope they're fun they're quirky they're
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cool this is this was the first I was thinking of this I think this was the first free product I ever got from
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working here cuz like two months into working here you get free products from working
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here wait wait um Marquez got like three of these in and we were going to shoot the Lucid air prototype and he's like we should just both use these on the trip like
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here take this pair and we were like messing around with them and using in the airport I think we were setting them
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up in the airport but we were using them in like the back of the lucid and these were cool you said exactly what they did
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that all they did was look kind of silly and have a camera that would shoot video for Snapchat that you could send in
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Snapchat and then yeah you could like rotate your phone so when other people got it and they move their phone around
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it would seem more I like so many people would message me being like what is your video doing because like they had no
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idea these existed and they had and to be fair it is like a weird phenomenon you move your phone around it's like
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it's like your phone's a portal because you can you can move your phone around and the video doesn't move pixels yeah
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and you can turn around like this and I used to be an electric skateboard reporter and I reviewed a ton of electric skateboards and would just
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skate around with these snapjack spectacles and make Snapchat videos of first person videos first person yeah
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yeah shout out to Google Glass yeah it was dope this is also these improved upon Google Glass in a very key way
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where the one of the main reasons Google Glass died is that they didn't have a recording Tal light and so there was a
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ton of like issues where people were getting yeah people were getting yeah they had no indication that you were
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recording I thought they had a tiny light I don't think they had any light people were getting kicked out of movie theaters because people thought they
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record were recording the movies people were getting pulled over while driving because people thought they were like watching a video while driving but the
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spectacles added this really bright yellow recording like Circle animation on them while you were recording so that it was very obvious that you were doing that yeah but these were like these had
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a bunch of hype around them they were sold I think in like vending machines yeah right like it was very on brand for
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Snapchat I bought mine at CES cuz they had a vending they they had drops of these vending machines like they did like Santa Monas damn it that was my
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trivia question oh well give me a point nah anyway um yeah there was a lot of hype around them it was cool yeah these were super on brand now 2024 we
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just got to see some new Snapchat spectacles and this is like version 4 yeah they apparently in 2021 they like
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announced these These are now AR glasses totally different product totally totally different product and I guess
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they like never launched in 2021 and now they're sort of relaunching them but they're completely different these look
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like do you know when you do like 3D movies and you get those like kind of semi- ncer 3D glasses mhm these look
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like somehow bulkier versions of those yeah they look like Prada glasses that are even chunkier than Prada glasses like these would be shown at some random like uh walkway at like uh Fashion Week
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I was going to say I think the key distinction for me is snapshots totic clo you could pass off as just regular sunglasses that someone might wear out
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and these new ones you could not pass off as regular glasses not at all they look terrible we've gone backwards yeah but I was thinking more about Snapchat doing AR glasses and as much as I don't
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like that they're using the word spectacles cuz this was the spectacle vibe to me and these don't feel like it
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I keep forgetting that Snapchat really was like the social media site that made AR filters and AR things like animations
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super popular and they did it so well with like spatial tracking and stuff like that remember the Hot Dog guy the
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dancing hot dog hot dog yeah they had there's quite a few OG AR memes from Snapchat for sure that
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like took over the internet so I guess what they're doing is taking that AR team and AR glasses do make sense this
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just feels weird because they're called spectacles they don't remind me of spectacles they're also only coming out
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as a developer kit right now where you have to pay $99 a month in order to develop on them a year a month no a
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month a month I think it's like $1,200 a year yeah so you're basically committing
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$1,200 for so you're developing on a product that you don't know will ever launch does this sound like magic leap
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to anyone else this sounds so much like magic leap sounds just like magic leap I think the difference though is that Snapchat has a
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history of actually being like somewhat successful with these AR products like they're in we went to like if you go to
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like a Nick game or something or like a hockey game on the Jumbotron they will just have like the Snapchat filter
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section where they just like point the camera at someone and put a filter on really yeah it's like a thing that's what I was going to say that like I
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think Snapchat has more success in this area yeah in the AR area not in the creating wearables area yeah but I think the wearables are just like the conduit for the AR like they're just making this
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so that people can like experiment and play the interesting thing about these glasses too is that they have uh hand
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gesture control which is something that previous ones did not have and it basically feels like they're trying to
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shrink down the Vision Pro faster than the than Apple can mhm that's what it feels like but the all the demos were
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really rough wait the phone mirroring was rough well yeah this well so the screen is only uh
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46° field of view so it's not full it doesn't take up the entire yeah but just like the um the like making your phone float that was the thing that I thought was kind of cool it was there but like
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the intera interacting with it was rough why does making your phone float in front of you cool when you can just hold
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your phone in front of your face uh cooking okay yeah specifically cooking I my brain is about that big and I read and then I go to the stove and then I go wait
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what yeah it's because Tik Tok videos are they're shortening your attention like 3/4 of a cup and then you walk over to the cup and you're like I don't remember anymore this is how I ended up
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making that lasagna no that was that's a totally different version of that but that's
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sure sure yeah story time part two stay tuned we I think we told that story that's for the OG's out there remember this one do you want to know one of the other new apps that they have available
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in this okay a chatbot baby didn't they they added they were one of the first apps to add a chatbot after chat gbt came out so annoy it was like yeah it's like my AI my AI yeah
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yeah guys stop snap Snapchat's a weird company man they just do whatever they do kind of
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feels like they made a drone remember the Drone discontinued it really fast that was gone kind St bit Emoji but that
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actually worked it did work the things that work for them are the the things that work for them were a dancing hot
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dog and bit Emoji like lowest common denominator always succeeds wow yeah yeah if you're that company and those are the things that succeed for you you'll probably try anything yeah like an idea that's in like the the boardroom
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the white board someone goes what if we did AR glasses that just show your phone
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floating in front of you someone's like okay yeah sure magnets that are just like a million different words and you
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create sentences with them that's what their whiteboard is there's other stuff that you can do with it too they showed like a demo where you were playing golf
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and you used your phone as like the golf putter and you would like golf simulator through this virtual
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window that just like appeared in space in front of you and I don't know it it was rough for sure and the fact that you
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have to pay $100 a month just to be a developer for a product that you don't know will ever come out is insane and
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then on top of that is your develop for this product when there's a bunch of rumors of meta doing AR glasses pretty
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soon which probably they've done more Hardware of VR stuff and sunglasses with like Ray bands already yeah tough one tough one you know Snapchat's one of
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those companies where I feel like every couple of years we go oh there's still a
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company and then you look into the data and you're like oh they've grown like 3x
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since the last time I looked at them huge yeah yeah I do miss the days when I actually cared about
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them active users 400 million dude it's nuts people use it as a messaging app yeah well no I think I think Young the the youths the youth use it I no as
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like an allinone it's almost like a super app yeah like WeChat for kids can I pop close you guys real quick on how big Snapchat is I just million us we
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just crushing all the trivia question you just say 400 million users 400 million daily 430 daily active 800
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million monthly uh on average how many Snaps are created every day 2 billion oh 1.7
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billion 4.75 billion Snapchat generated how much revenue in 2023 [Music] $100 negative $100 $1 billion $4 billion
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$4.6 billion nice andw oh my goodness that's a lot of money what that's almost per snap per day wait what was it yeah 4 billion snaps a day and four billion in annual revenue a dollar per snap from
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where from from the advertising in a yeah from developer fees apparently like yeah basically okay last one gen Z users account for what percent of Snapchat monthly active users
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in it's only half what it's only I mean so you think Snapchat is this little world of Jen us enormous Tim uses it every day the only people I snap are
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Tim and then Claire and I send baby pictures back and forth because it's a little easier for the worlds team which
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is not a youth worlds team it's an adult worlds team we made a Snapchat group and then when we finally got to Australia
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and we'd been like like everyone's been like sending things to the group and we looked in the group and we were trying
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to figure out how many of us are actually in this group every single person on the team except one was in the
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Snapchat group these are all adults we're all over 20 something crap so I like how you can't get anyone to move off of uh what's that dumb messaging app that Microsoft still owns for some
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reasons teams no no Skype well yes that's a dumb messaging app wa do they still own Skype they do still own Skype uh the one that you use for Ultimate Frisbee the terrible group
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gr I like how you wait Microsoft owns group me oh yeah baby dude what a terrible what a that group me used to be our work messaging app just slack we use
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gr that's insane there's only four of us there's only four of us you guys are you guys are masochists for sure okay one
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other thing about Snapchat that I found very funny they're completely redesigning the app and they the new
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version of the app redesign is called Simple Snapchat which is the redesign if you look at it it's literally just what Snapchat used to look like when I used it in like before they redesigned it and
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lost all of their I downloaded it like a year ago because someone I met was like we should Snapchat and I was like I
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guess I'll look at what it looks like I downloaded it and it like gave me an aneurysm I had no idea how to operate
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this app I was like your brain has to be fried to understand what the ux of this like does wait that's the new one this
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is yeah there's only like three pages basically no there's a fifth page there's a Tik Tok page oh yeah yo look
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at that avocado still way simpler than it was old Snapchat used to be the page of all the
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snaps you have is the homepage just straight into that then they added the like the like video feed where they had
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like BuzzFeed and all the other different Creator whatever y that's when it went down hill and then they had to
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make a dancing hot dog always used to be the camera I guess the camera but then it was only ever camera and these are
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the snaps that you're sending yeah that that was a very powerful thing about Snapchat is when you open SnapChat it
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opens directly to the camera yeah no other social media app does that that's I think that's still why CLA and I use
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it sometimes because to just like send silly videos of lean to each other it's so much easier to just pop that open
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it's not saving on my phone and taking up storage it's just actually I got to see Lane crawl for the first time
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because Claire was just like sitting there snapping Lane while I was at work and then just like in the middle of the
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snap she just goes are you crawling right now and like Lane was taking her first did you save the video I think CLA
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save that's awesome it would have been so much easier if you're wearing a Humane pin though record right guys record record
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record send it to send it to C overheated it's overheated before it Happ yeah also Snapchat invented the
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story format yes that's true true imagine Instagram is like dying right like I mean it's not but the only reason it's still alive is because of stories and because they're trying to get people
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hooked on reals and it's melting people's brains but stories is like the main reason that people still use
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Instagram people don't really look at feed post that much anymore it's a very big I think it's a reason that it like
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be got super popular and stayed in the line like reals is definitely helping now but they totally stole that from
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snap and I think it was around the same time snap did the the redesign oh and so
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like people were mad at snap and then went to Instagram cuz stories and they were on there already yeah snap Maps
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also I don't think anyone else is doing that before uh well is someone doing that now fine am I yeah like well that
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already existed but my friends already there I don't think it existed find my friends when yeah that's exist forever
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how 201 2011 was what five my friends wait snap Maps is 2017 that can't be right no
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it is I remember that launching yeah I thought I remember Emoji overlaid so different who would have thought we were going to talk about snap for this long yeah we should Innovative compan can't
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figure out how to make that much money last thing before the break these are some headphones that we talked about a
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few episodes Marquez wasn't here when we talked about these actually but they sent us a pair yeah we've used them
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they're so cool we have used them I thought we'd use them a little more I don't you haven't used them yet have you no I haven't tried them I just put them
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on they're comfortable these are the they're not open back they are just open back back they're the most open back are
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they open back cuz there's no back that's open I don't know headphones truly open if you're on video you can
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see or maybe not see because you can see through it yeah um for audio listeners it's like a pair of over your headphones but there's no back and there's just like some drivers hanging down yeah which is cool they remind me of the Sony
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link buds which were the like truly wireless earbuds where there's the transparency mode was physical physical
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transparency mode they're like negative link buds because link buds had the ring that went around they're like the
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opposite the drivers are around it yeah also this is just like the packaging it comes in better car in case than airpods
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Max for listeners it is a uh paper purse it's like a handbag yeah it does look better than the airpods max purse for sure do you want to just try these out Ellis you tried them what you think
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about them they're to so yeah when we first talked about these I said I I don't know and then I tried them um Pros
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good things about them uh very comfortable I could see myself being able to wear them for a long period of
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time although I did not try to uh Pro number two they pair really easily which I know is like shouldn't everything pair really easily well guess what they don't and and we were like passing around
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these these around the office and like everyone was like pairing and unpairing to their phone and like typically that
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messes up a lot of Bluetooth product but these weren't messed up so that was Pro number two uh Pro number three they look
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cool not H it's actually on my con list personally I I don't know I would love to be on I've worn a lot of ridiculous Tech products in public and those kind
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of cross the line for me these arey they're funny straight on you can't even tell they're different and then from the side you're like why can't I see that
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guy's ear yeah I love that I want to see I think it's kind of cool I'm listening to music right now you guys can't yeah
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can't hear any now Pro number whatever the bleed I don't know how they pulled it off there's like no bleed like like
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my focal open backs have significantly more it's pretty loud for me right now sorry headphones interesting um cons uh they sound fine they sound competitive
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with other headphones in this price range um $300 by the way yeah I don't think they have as good base as some of the competitors and before you're like
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oh well it's just because the Sony XM 4S or whatever have Bas boost no it's like you can hear the resonant frequency and
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the rollof at the end like they sound a little bit like you're listening to music inside a wooden box um but other
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than that they sound fine and competitive and um and they get loud and they get pretty they get pretty loud yeah I don't know they're they're F the thing is is like I kept using
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them with my airpods and like going back and forth and to try to like compare what airpod transparency mode and this were like and they weren't that
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different in you know what I mean like in terms of like a physical physical transparency and like yeah like like the
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sensation was pretty similar as far as a transparency mode goes and um I think these are more about the design and the look than they are about the actual benefit you get from them being truly
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open back I I feel like it's just like a preference thing you I can hear everything you guys are saying which I
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couldn't with any other even like I guess with open B headphones there's some level of attenuation from just like
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the material of the mesh or whatever but this is the most open I've ever heard headphones like this sound and the benefit I mean the benefit of a of like
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an airpods is that it's sampling the sound coming through and like actually protecting your ears whereas this is not doing that no like the it's really confusing cuz they I've I I suspect that
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the airpods what transparency and what adaptive means like has actually been sort of changing over time and they just
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don't put it in any of the release notes cuz OD before adaptive mode transparency mode was really similar to what adaptive
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is now and now transparency is like less protected but I it still is like doing some Dynamics processing I don't know they're not they're not high-i headphones but if you want something
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weird and then these are that man I think they're cool yeah other than looking ridiculous I don't really have any major complaints I think they're pretty well built for and well priced
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for a company that's like not a major brand yeah sorry they're called the nwm ons they're a Japanese company I believe
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but they are sold on Amazon you can get them on Amazon in the US um they're not that ridiculous looking compared to other headphones they're ridiculous looking but compared to compared to the
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Dyson mouth breather headphones they're not that ridiculous but like Peak I can't think of another pair of headphones that is even half as silly looking as if I lived in a city and went
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to like a coffee shop to do my work a bunch I think these would be kind of cool to have the like Ambient sound like
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coming through and yeah the downside is this this I usually wear headphones to um have people not come up to me to say anything and these do not scream I can't
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hear you they they don't what do you think they're they're yeah they're good they're like it's like having transparency mode on all the time because it's you have to the air H yeah
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because there's nothing there it's great yeah I think they're great I always love when we start using like technical terms
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to describe things that are just existing in real life using the marketing term wow when I don't have headphones on it's like I
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have transparency mode on yeah I will say here I will say as much as I would be embarrassed to wear them in public um
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if I saw like a fashion model wearing them on a Runway I would be like that's I'd be like that's cool like that's the
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future and the Snapchat spectacles the new ones dude I think the Snapchat spectacles are kind of cool okay then you've lost all credit for all right we
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have a lot more of uh speaking of transparency mode of products to talk about after the break so we're going to take another quick break but before we
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do let's do some trivia if you're about to show me the trivia answers don't do that where's
00:29:39
your whiteboard oh it's over there uh you will be getting the trivia question soon but first a correction from last
00:29:46
week not exactly a correction but you know uh last week I made a big stink about Apple watch about Apple describing the Hermes watch band as uh 3D and I
00:29:58
thought that was so dumb and then um a really great listener uh named Beth who is a textile engineer professionally uh wrote in to say hey that was pretty funny but actually you don't know what
00:30:10
you're talking appar a 3D knit is a special kind of knitting process where instead of using a loom to create textiles that you then stitch together with a sewing
00:30:22
machine uh you can just sort of create a whole garment in one process on a loom and that is called 3D knitting because you're not making a flat sheet of textile you're actually making this 3D
00:30:33
process Adam is playing you a clip we also put it in the the video note but there's this cool shot at the end of
00:30:39
this where uh there's just this printer that like prints a sweater check it out it's like crazy looking what the heck
00:30:47
yeah right nuts um and uh the blue and gray sort of like uh raised parts of the Hermes band uh if you weren't doing that with 3D knitting you would need to actually like weave those separately and
00:31:00
then sew them on but because Hermes use 3D knitting it's one continuous flow of uh
00:31:08
of textile so Apple I'm sorry you know there's certain types of products where like people really care they over index how the
00:31:20
product was made and I've never been super into those types of products but I feel like
00:31:28
heres makes a lot of those products well they have to justify the price sure right like when I see that like oh the
00:31:34
so of these shoes was 3D printed I'm like I just need to know if it's good or if that like brings any benefit to me at the end people want flexing reasons to flex you know yeah Adam is a crying in
00:31:48
Japanese raw denim right now well yeah there's that there's like certain like the Exotic Car World full of handbuilt cars like there's certain things where the way that it's built matters just as
00:31:58
much as the thing it's because effort is the point right not always well not always I like things like that we often buy things that are handmade even if they're worse just because they're handmade certain things certain types of
00:32:12
things other things never right but certain things deserve that extra consideration sometimes yeah that's all yeah anyway speaking of things that are handmade I was say does Beth get a point
00:32:24
now on the leaderboard hell yeah she does Google negative one Beth one's at negative3 yeah uh Beth is actually currently tied with David
00:32:35
Pierce this is awesome um speaking of things that are handmade trivia question Handmade by me um brain made uh RCS is officially part of
00:32:47
America's favorite phone the iPhone and we're going to get more into that after the break you got a problem with me
00:32:53
saying that Andrew why did everyone left and I'm the one you're single out here I
00:32:58
saw the look um use WhatsApp don't even start I um you're G to flare it took many years to get here but what year did
00:33:12
the RCs initiative officially get added to gs's work program and Price is Right rules like oh close to start going over
00:33:25
yep over being chronologically so say question one more time in what year did the GSM which is the GSM Association I don't actually
00:33:37
know what GSM stand so GSM is a I I know what it is but I don't know what it stands for but you should explain it for
00:33:44
people finish it's finish it's finish because there was well let's restart it you proba shouldn't look it up just in case that was really good Alis thank you I just got that
00:33:58
global system for mobile okay yeah so what's the question again they invented SMS it is you putting the formation of
00:34:06
this so basically what it was yeah be careful with that Wikipedia page on there was a there was a Finnish Telecom
00:34:12
that created all of these standards and a bunch of the finished telecoms like needed to organize to like
00:34:20
actually allow these protocols to work together so they started the gsma which is the association of the GSM standard so that they could like
00:34:31
organize around protocols and then that became like a global standard because they were just way ahead of everyone
00:34:38
else that's why Nokia is like so far ahead of everybody else that was a great explanation and at a certain point in
00:34:43
time they were some of the early industry Coalition people to say hey this RCS thing is pretty cool and in a
00:34:52
certain year they created this thing called the RCs initiative right after the soon after the protocol was sort of
00:34:58
fleshed out I think maybe it was before it was finished being fleshed out anyway I'm looking for I'm asking I'm asking
00:35:05
okay for what year the gsma said hey we are developing this RCS thing and we are trying to get carriers and handset manufacturers on board they put out a press release they said hey we
00:35:18
are pushing RCS like starting to develop it or finalizing the spec when did the announcement come out when did the
00:35:24
announcement come out that they were going to build it I believe it had already been built at this point um and
00:35:29
this was just them but let me confirm that uh before we get to we're asking a lot of questions that aren't going to
00:35:34
change our answers at all yeah exactly going change mind after the break at the end of the
00:35:46
show so yeah we'll we'll think about that question for a while and uh we'll be back after the break [Music]
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form all right welcome back it is uh the week that all of the reviews for all of Apple's new products for Fall have come
00:38:11
out and so my thoughts as well as everybody else who's been reviewing them about airpods 4 about um Apple Watch
00:38:18
series 10 and about iPhone 16 and 16 Pro are all now out there in the world and so we can say that we've been testing them using them reviewing them taking pictures on them listening to the
00:38:29
headphones using the watch yes this is a black Apple watch Ultra uh that I quickly switched to after finishing testing the series 10 um and we have
00:38:39
plenty of thoughts random scattered rants maybe to share uh that weren't in the reviews let's start with the iPhone
00:38:45
the 16 and 16 Pros um the main two things that I think will come through in the review because as we're recording this I haven't made the reviews yet but
00:38:56
the main two two things are one these phones are unfinished they don't have any apple apple intelligence features at all at launch and two cameras are really
00:39:10
interesting and I think the analogy that I'm trying to finish for this review for the cameras is
00:39:16
that the way that a camera looks and processes images is kind of like EQ in music in headphones for example the way that these headphones sound out the box
00:39:29
if you like them great if you don't that's fine that's just one of the ways that they can sound change the EQ now
00:39:35
they sound like this change the EQ now they sound like this and photographic styles on the iPhone are kind of there so the power of defaults is very strong
00:39:48
and the iPhone still has a look with their default image but that's just one of the ways it can look and there are surfacing ways to remind you of
00:39:55
different ways it can look I think those are my two biggest observations look I you could probably
00:40:00
buy this new 16 and be fine it's it's not that dramatic of a change from the 15 or the 14 the pros are better in the camera department and better in the screen Department as they are every year
00:40:12
great 4K 120 super cool but yeah that's that's basically new iPhones in a nutshell I have a lot to say about
00:40:19
photographic Styles mhm they so okay for those that don't know yet there are photographic Styles first launched in the iPhone 13 series the pros uh but
00:40:30
they only had like a few different styles that you could have in it yeah like four or five or something yeah and
00:40:36
you could like there was a there was like a tone slider and a and like a color slider a a warmth slider but those
00:40:42
are the only two things you could change there were only like four presets and you had to take a photo in the
00:40:48
photographic style when you took it you couldn't change it it was baked in they made a big deal about how it's not just a filter it's like in the pipeline you know which is true still true now they
00:41:00
have added a ton of different presets which is very cool I personally think the gold preset is like by far my
00:41:06
favorite it feels sort of like Kodak gold it's uh it's it's nice it's warm it's contrasty the interesting thing
00:41:13
about photographic Styles this year are is twofold one the first time you open the camera app now just the camera app
00:41:20
at all like the first thing that shows up is hey photographic Styles look at this try it take a few photos like it is
00:41:28
in your face like change the way that you C want the camera to work by default right now and I think that that is basically their response to people like
00:41:39
me who complain a lot about this like raised Shadows uh no contrast processed computational photography look where they're like all right if you want to actually get your camera to look the way
00:41:54
you want it to look set it when you first set set up your iPhone and it will always look like that you can go in and
00:42:00
change it if you want but here which I think is awesome I just immediately set it to the gold one and honestly
00:42:06
generally that's like good enough for me but the other thing is they now have this like they change the way the
00:42:12
sliders look so they still have uh these like settings near the top but they have basically a touchpad where you you take
00:42:19
the style and you can change this like 3des slider between saturation and like brightness where you can up the the like shadows and you can up the saturation in
00:42:31
this like kind of 3D space or there's just a simple slider for saturation where it's like applying the style yeah
00:42:39
um and I think that overall like giving people this much more control out of the box is like a very smart move from Apple
00:42:45
because they don't want to come out and say you know what you're right we went way too hard on the computational
00:42:50
photography doing that we're just G to change the default Pipeline and it's going to be more contrasty and it's G to
00:42:55
have less Shadow detail and now they're saying you want something different do it yourself which I like that they're like shoving it in people's faces so that they have the opportunity to actually do it whereas photographic
00:43:06
Styles in the iPhone 13 was like not very obvious and also was not very customizable do you think it's
00:43:13
more like when I just think of people complaining that it's computational photography and they don't want it
00:43:19
versus people who like film photo styles are in in style right now and giv them options like that like the Fuji yeah like I mean people are taking way more photos on film or at least trying to
00:43:33
make things look like film more recent I that's part of it I wouldn't say that this is necessarily like filmy but I me
00:43:41
it's getting into like a small style and I just feel like the general public of people who Apple would want to change
00:43:46
something for probably aren't like this looks too computational Photography they also probably want people to less go to
00:43:55
third party editing apps and and both added like editing stuff in their photos app and now they're putting it directly in the camera yeah yeah yeah no there's there's a there's a lot of
00:44:08
people who don't love the way that the new cameras look and the fact that this is built in and super easily accessible and the last thing is it's now moved to
00:44:19
the end of the image processing pipeline so it's the least destructive it's the thing that you can edit after you take
00:44:24
the shots so it's the thing that feels like the most encouraged for you to change after you take a picture but at
00:44:31
the same time it's also at the front of the pipeline where you get to see in live view it's it's looking with that
00:44:38
filter in the actual yeah in the actual processing pipeline it's like when you when you stack a bunch of things it's
00:44:45
the last thing so that if you change it it is uh full quality change which is awesome but I think more people will use
00:44:50
it because they get to see the preview of what it looks like versus like people are just normal people who aren't that
00:44:56
super into photography stuff now we're going to be like oh this looks fun as I'm taking it versus like oh that is
00:45:02
there but I took the picture and I already forgot to go back and like add that filter on and the more we talk about this the more it makes sense to me
00:45:08
that Apple not necessarily is so hellbent against calling it a button but they do love calling it camera control and that's the theme for this iPhone is
00:45:18
camera control you have control over the way your camera looks and the way your camera works it's a great that's a great
00:45:26
point it's still a button okay just to be clear I don't get why they're so I don't I don't either
00:45:31
Computing they hate that people say button but yes it is it's control over your camera they're giving you control
00:45:37
over your camera this year with the iPhone 16s that's what's happening yeah so want to talk about the button that's
00:45:43
to totally button the button it's fine it's you know it's a little finicky for me it's kind of in this slight split the
00:45:49
difference spot where like it feels okay in landscape and it feels okay in portrait but not great in either totally
00:45:55
fine agree um but yeah you can swipe through I end up mainly using it for tone like just deepening the contrast
00:46:01
and the shadows and like messing with that just so I can see the shadows in real time and taking those shots oh wait can I try real quick I haven't tried
00:46:08
this yet I think it's hard to use I think the half press is harder to use than it should be the half press takes
00:46:13
some real like like tact like you have to get used to how much pressure you need wait I see no you just took a photo
00:46:20
no no no no no no no I was making sure that I wasn't doing it I think the half press is pretty easy you got to double tap the half press double half press
00:46:26
press to bring up the menu and you don't have to take yeah what you probably just did worked and then you swipe back and
00:46:32
forth and there's a little bit of momentum with the swipes so if you swipe like with extra speed you can go two or
00:46:38
three instead of one there's there's that the momentum's got some I hate it issues yeah there's a learning curve I think they need better acceleration on the uh on the swiping it feels to me
00:46:50
like it's not sensitive enough personally I think the half click's not bad but the double half click is tough
00:46:57
yeah double half clicking is really tough yeah it just doesn't feel intuitive and it's interesting that they put this button on the regular iPhone 16
00:47:05
as well I like when they're giving you all these additional settings like they're giving you like aperture control which it's fake aperture yep portrait
00:47:12
mode yeah it's portrait mode oh I in portrait doing this just makes me feel like I'm holding my
00:47:18
phone yeah like in a very precarious way and that is going to fall out of my hand at any second yeah thank you I think
00:47:26
with the iPhone the power of defaults again is really strong here I think I'm predicting that 90 something per of
00:47:32
people will never know what this camera control thing does other than if I press it I take a picture yeah I think that's
00:47:39
what most people will end up doing with it but there will be some Pro tips and some YouTube videos that show you how to
00:47:45
take advantage of it and on the pro iPhone this is something that people who are really into the smartphone
00:47:50
photography will get into you can do a lot with it and third party apps are going to build in controls for it as well and it's going to be kind of
00:47:55
powerful but it only does things that you can also already do with onscreen controls so it's not like yeah necessary
00:48:03
NE thing try and use that in portrait mode I'm scared that phone is going to fall it looks so all of your fingers are
00:48:10
within the bottom 25% of that phone right now you know what you know my take is they should have ignored portrait mode if this is if you are a a pro video
00:48:18
user or whatever you're turning the phone sideways even though that's technically not true anymore with all the vertical content online turn it
00:48:24
sideways now you're using camera control which is why I think they could have put it just in the Pro Camera and they could
00:48:30
have called it like Pro Camera and that's it yeah Pro Camera control and then that they have another
00:48:35
differentiator to buy the profone I hate advocating for this no screw both of you
00:48:41
leave it in everything perspective yeah because one of the themes this year is actually how good the standard iPhone 16
00:48:47
is MHM yeah yeah they've brought a lot of things that has 8 gigs of RAM now just like the pro phones it's got a
00:48:54
pretty I mean there's still a gap between the cameras but a pretty good set of cameras um it has the camera
00:48:59
control like the pro phones now as well so there's a lot of things that they've done with the base phones that make it
00:49:07
convincing I personally and I've said this probably every time I've talked about this iPhone can't use a 60 HZ
00:49:13
phone in 2024 I can't sorry I just can't do it but if you can then the only difference between this and the pro phones is going to be cameras and bigger screens it feels like every two-ish
00:49:25
years there's the year where like the pro and the regular have this huge Delta between
00:49:31
them and it seems really obvious and then two years later it's like these are almost exactly the same except for promotion and one extra camera and they
00:49:37
just keep going back and forth on this this feels like one of those years where you really need 120 HZ and the extra
00:49:44
camera or else there's no point there are a lot of like small things that if you're a really hardcore Pro user are
00:49:51
useful like the USB transfer on the regular one is still USB 2 whereas it's 3.1 on the on the pro phone stuff like
00:49:58
that yeah there's also other stuff that they didn't explain very well that I didn't even know until we talked to them
00:50:04
in the briefing but it was like both of these phones the main camera is 48 megapixel and both of them they call it
00:50:11
the fusion camera we had to get like Clarity on what that Fusion camera thing means and it's effectively I couldn't
00:50:19
get them to say this directly but just like they wouldn't say it's a button it's basically just a rebranding of
00:50:25
their like 2X Optical quality mode that they had in the last one which it's basically using
00:50:32
the inner part of the camera's pixels to do a 2X Zoom but the photo sites are not
00:50:39
as big so you're not as get getting as much light so it's not Optical quality that's like misleading it's still good
00:50:45
but it's effectively it's like pixel bining sort of right it is pixel binning it is pixel binning yeah yeah it's
00:50:50
negative pixel Bing uh it's not pixel Bing it's negative pixel Bing pixel Bing would be four turn into one correct this
00:50:56
is cropping yes so it's not pixel that's why I said negative pixel V it's the same amount of effective pixels but the
00:51:03
photo sites are way smaller right so you're getting less light intake anyway the fusion camera thing is basically
00:51:10
them just branding that and they're saying well it's different because the sensor is bigger but something that they
00:51:17
never really mentioned out loud is that the sensor in the Pro phone on the main camera this year is a lot bigger than
00:51:25
the main camera on the 16 they basically did not say that anywhere so it's noticeable to me like shooting photos and videos the iPhone 16 Pros have a nice shallow depth of field like when
00:51:37
I'm shooting and I not and I didn't really notice it that much before it's really nice in these pros and you'll
00:51:42
also get better low light performance so if you're concerned about those types of things the pro makes a meaningful
00:51:49
difference for that right the ultra wides both fine for me I'm not finding a huge difference there and then obviously you have a telephoto on the pro and their 5x on both siiz pros and not on
00:52:01
the regular because there's no telephoto but yeah I don't know 4K 120 is nice yeah and that's also only on the pro because there's a there's 2x the transfer speed on this new sensor that
00:52:12
is not on the regular one yeah and you can cruise through storage with 4K 120 yeah like for real so keep that in mind I think it's like a gig a minute yeah the conspiracy the no dude The
00:52:24
Conspiracy Theory like I I was was in Glacier a few weeks ago and I was taking a bunch just everything is beautiful and
00:52:30
I was just taking a bunch of Pras log footage just to like just cruise through I Got a notification like as soon as I
00:52:36
got back that's like your iCloud storage is full and I was like I thought I was only using 120 out of the 200 gigs or
00:52:41
whatever and I took 80 gigs of storage from like 20 prores log clips that weren't even that long yeah so my conspiracy theory is that they're trying to make you use as much cloud storage as
00:52:54
possible you can shoot Direct to an external Thunderbolt uh drive on the pro phones
00:53:01
and USB 3 will transfer fast enough to do that I suggest you do that cuz if you don't you're going to just blast through
00:53:06
storage however there was a thing because there's like a I don't know if it's anchor or somebody made some sort
00:53:12
of attachment that goes on the it attaches via mag safe and it goes into the USB port and it's supposed to be
00:53:19
able to like you can record directly to that we had one right yeah we have it don't we I think we were using it for
00:53:25
autofocus yeah oh really for a little while well apparently the SD card transfer speed or something is like not
00:53:32
fast enough to not drop frames or something like that so yeah there's an article on DP Review about it that I
00:53:38
would read just before you buy that kind of stuff we I shot a couple autofocus videos directly to an external drive and
00:53:43
it was fine yeah it wasn't Pro it wasn't uh PR as log though it was just 4K 30 HDR prores yeah I think the external drives are fine it's when you use the micro SD cards that's when it gets kind
00:53:56
of oh yeah I can see that yeah Co so anyway uh yeah other than that not a ton I mean
00:54:02
I'm going to review Apple intelligence separately from the phones there's just nothing to say new here that I didn't talk about in the iOS 18 video so like
00:54:10
in six month how long does it take to come out like this going a long time before it's all out but when it's all
00:54:16
out I'll review it it's just not out yet so I I don't even have much to say about that see review for rant um but then we
00:54:24
can talk about airpods and Apple Watch series 10 what should we do first uh airpods okay
00:54:29
well airpods 4 and there's two versions active noise cancellation and non-active noise cancellation I can now say that I
00:54:38
really tested a lot of backtack airpods Pro versus airpods 4 with a andc they're
00:54:45
only 20 $30 difference between them but one of them has silicon tips one of them doesn't wait $179 for airpods 4 withc
00:54:53
250 is the is the MSRP though for you can get them on Amazon easy for 190 right now that's true that's true and that's like everywhere so I'm just counting them as $19 headphones okay and
00:55:05
I rated the airpods pro noise cancellation like an8 out of 10 it's really good the fit in my ear is great and then I would switch immediately to the airpods 4 the hard tip and felt like
00:55:18
it was half power like the air the noise cancellation is simply not as good physically speaking it makes perfect sense there's air gaps Sur the outside of the hard tip like noises are going to get in anyway so the tech is working
00:55:31
it's just it cannot possibly work as well without a perfect fit in your ear so I said it was like a four or five out of 10 people got really worked up about
00:55:37
that I'm standing by that like it's not as powerful but if airpods 4 fit like a glove in your ear good for you it'll work better for you that's true right and then you get a cheaper pair of
00:55:49
airpods yeah I watched the Dave 2D video about it and he was like raving about the ANC but it's probably just because
00:55:55
they fit well his ears whereas when we were recording the review like you nodded your head once and they fell out
00:56:01
dude every time like I put them in my ears and this is like the first thing I do every time I get new earbuds is I put them in my ears and I just see does it
00:56:07
feel like they fit or not and sometimes there's just this feeling of it's like it's slowly ejecting itself from my ear
00:56:14
slowly and then like 60 seconds later they just fall out so if I get that feeling I know that the fit isn't great
00:56:21
and if they're silicon tips I can size up size down I can adjust it with the hard tips it's like these will not stay
00:56:27
in my ear period or I will just have to adjust it every 60 seconds and I'll hate it yeah so that's just me like I said in
00:56:34
the beginning of the video there's two types of people they either work in your ears or they don't so um yeah if if
00:56:41
airpods 3 worked in your ears then I suggest checking out airpods 4 because they're they're pretty close yeah
00:56:46
they're pretty close I think they put ANC in airpods 4 because they were looking at the airpods line and they're
00:56:52
like this price ladder isn't tight enough tighten that up I actually think that's a big part of why they have this
00:56:57
stratification now if you if you were going to get airpods 4 and you're like H well I mean like I got to get them with
00:57:03
noise cancellation spend another 50 bucks you're like ladder for sure but then for another you know another 50 60
00:57:10
bucks I and only really 20 because they're the two are always on sale and then at that point you're your two rungs
00:57:16
up mhm yeah I would I was going to mention in the video I think 99 bucks would have been killer for the base
00:57:22
airpods but they're 129 yeah I wonder how long it takes for them to go on sale for 99 but I think that would have been
00:57:28
a nice price for those uh there is a lot of competition around 80 90 bucks though for that type of product you do get also
00:57:35
a case with wireless charging and a speaker for those $50 more Temptation for the price ladder if you haven't seen that short watch it it's it's everything that Apple does um but yeah that's it
00:57:49
airpods Pros are not different they just have a software update that can make them a clinical grade hearing aid which
00:57:54
is cool which did get FDA approval this week yes and I think that's also starting to push as well which is nice
00:58:01
uh same with sleep apne detection in the watches I think that's also beginning it got FDA approval also which is great um
00:58:08
actually funny tweet by Quinn snazzy Labs he said I was making fun of it and then I tested it and it said oh I have
00:58:15
sleep apnea so he you know it's it's well then he went to a doctor and got tested and has mild sleep apnea so that's that's super super quick turnar
00:58:21
around and he's going to be in the next Apple keynote can I that was a and still not get invited
00:58:27
to the event um wait I have like no thoughts on airpods except for I really appreciate
00:58:34
the thumbnail it was like pure throwback to Old MKBHD thumbnails where you used to take two pieces of poster board and like just make you physically made the
00:58:45
like color separation products and what's funny is it practically made the stroke because
00:58:51
all part like poster board on the back is white and since the camera was wide enough you would see a little bit of the
00:58:57
white stroke through the middle like and Shadow it would be like the white side and the shadow yeah I you definitely
00:59:02
made an airpods video that is like that for sure it was like in a little person remember wait there's no Photoshop in this no no that one isot that one was done with Photoshop but in the theme of
00:59:14
the ones that we used to do with practical effects like this I remember those those are fun oh yeah oh yeah so
00:59:22
okay Apple Watch series 10 it's thinner it's bigger okay moving on um yeah that's kind of the review I don't know I mean I think my favorite thing about the Apple Watch series 10 honestly is just
00:59:33
the fact that it now has the one Hertz display yeah because I like things that are digital but act as much like an analog thing as possible oh you like that skew morphism that's right but in
00:59:46
but in Hardware design skew my morphism you can well that's still software uh you talk about the secondhand yeah the secondhand like even though though it's not something that I'm constantly
00:59:58
looking at I just like that it's more like a real watch I think that's cool I agree it's good it's good uh and they
01:00:04
didn't put that in the ultra too what the hell Apple all you did was give us matte black you thought I would shut up about it just cuz you gave us matte
01:00:10
black look I appreciate the Matt Black that band looks really good too Matt Black and the black band and everything
01:00:16
but I've got this I switched to the same watch face that I had on the ultra 3 and it doesn't tick Ultra 2 ultra 2 and it
01:00:21
doesn't tick so yeah well it oh you're right doesn't have the brighter off axis viewing or anything like that this new screen is nice on the 10 the off axis thing is also a thing that is that is
01:00:33
useful I don't really notice it but you know yeah I would say that this year the series 10 is like as close as it's ever
01:00:41
been to the ultra because the size is almost the same yeah it now has the depth gauge and the water temperature sensor mhm um yeah it's like they're
01:00:54
very very similar watches now it's sort of just like do you want the sportier one with dual band GPS yeah and auto
01:01:01
track detection and a compass and basic St way points yeah yeah I really don't need this I just thought it looks cool like the the 10 and jet black really really good watch and totally uh usable
01:01:15
to anyone who doesn't use the the ultra features who just buys it for it's just the battery difference at this point for
01:01:20
me I do think the ultra looks way better though in my my opinion yeah in general
01:01:25
think it looks way better I don't disagree the 10 is so cool the 10 it's just Sleek it's so shiny it's so Sleek
01:01:32
it is really shiny it's my favorite Apple watch it's Ugo no take it back it's not ugly take it back it's just all
01:01:40
the people at the end of the review I said like a rotating bezel or a circular shape or a meaningful Improvement to
01:01:46
battery any of these things that we were like kind of hoping for out of series 10 would have been the biggest change to Apple watch Ever yeah they didn't do any
01:01:53
of those things yeah they did a bunch of small incremental things that add up to a nice year-over-year Improvement but
01:02:00
it's not like some crazy dramatic new watch it's it's an Apple Watch looks fine I feel like they're trying to make
01:02:05
the Apple watch more like a dress watch like the Apple watch Ultra is like a brolic diing watch and then they have
01:02:12
like the cute little like sacred page or whatever yeah yeah I think you could dress up that watch with a nice band and
01:02:19
face than Ultra yeah that's true I have a funny Apple watch thing that I discovered because I started wearing an
01:02:25
Ultra like um I love the ultra I think it's super cool so I as video viewers know am not particularly brolic um have very very low muscle mass on my body and
01:02:39
in fact I'm so scrawny that my my wrists and my forearms are very flat because it's just bone no muscle no meat and so the the crown of the Apple watch like
01:02:50
digs into my wrist when I turn it like I take it off at the end of the day there's like a
01:02:55
little like divit in my yeah I uh wait it's not just me no if I is yeah okay I thought it was
01:03:03
just my if I bend my wrist a certain way especially when it's on the other wrist I literally turn the digital crown and
01:03:10
if I'm doing like a push-up or like bear crawls or anything on the ground it holds it down and I think that activates
01:03:16
the siren after a while oh God God I turned that off I turned the siren off cuz I was like there's no way wow well I think it says a lot about your your humility Marquez that you're like no I'm
01:03:28
not that strong but when I'm doing bear claw bear craws craws part of ourm CLW guys it's not that it's not that crazy I also do have to note um they said that it now charges to 80% in 30 minutes I
01:03:40
tested this three times every single time 65% okay wait I want to say that in the announcement it said up to 80% which I remember seeing him being like that's weird and then I think we never
01:03:52
mentioned it and I was like am I just wrong but I'm like 99 % sure it said up to 80% in 30 minutes well technically it
01:04:00
does charge up to 100% in 30 minutes too yeah it I think the thing that I notied
01:04:06
is it charges faster at the beginning of the charge yeah that's the one like if I was wearing it I remember back when I
01:04:13
was wearing it and doing the sleep tracking with it I would basically only get to charge it while I was showering yeah and I would take a quick shower and
01:04:20
it would be at like some red number like 9% and I'd go shower and I'd come back and and it would be at like 13 I'm like
01:04:28
that's weird I have to leave it on the charger longer and I come back 45 minutes later and it would be nearly done but this one I can put it on the
01:04:34
charger and come back in a short period of time and it's already started rapidly adding battery so I think that's where
01:04:40
I've noticed the most difference yeah yeah I haven't measured it scientifically but that's my observation
01:04:46
also PSA you need a fast charging Apple watch charger um which they started shipping in the series 7 but if you have like an old Nomad charger or something
01:04:57
you're not magically going to get more speed you have to buy an updated charger that supports fast charging um good call
01:05:03
out yeah yeah very Apple very apple and the iPhone 16 and 16 Pro also now charge
01:05:09
25 watts on the new mag safe pucks which look exactly like the old mag safe pffs but you have to buy the new ones so
01:05:16
that's also annoying but there you are um that's the watch and the watch is the same but if you're going to buy a new
01:05:22
one you might as well buy the the new one the newest new one yeah the newest new one with the biggest face and the
01:05:28
brightest green and the thinnest thin Tail as old as time yeah there you have it there you have it all right we've got
01:05:34
a game to get to and we've probably already been going for like 17 hours so we'll we'll cut this here go watch the
01:05:40
videos if you haven't already for the full polished uh tightly considered thoughts uh before we take that break
01:05:47
though one more trivia question trivia dude so we were talking about Snapchat earlier and when those spectacles came out the Gen one it was pretty hype I remember going to get the
01:06:01
first spectacles from a vending machine in the city from one of those pop-ups which was my question I want to say if
01:06:06
you guys remember that it was vending machines but clearly you did so next question David said the video was
01:06:13
basically 180° you know like when you're looking at it on the phone but that wasn't the field of view of the actual
01:06:19
camera itself what was the field of view of the camera itself the one on the spectacles yeah field of view of the of the output not
01:06:30
necessarily like what the smartphone camera well every different smartphone camera has a different field no it
01:06:35
wasn't a smartphone camera it was the one buil spectacles sorry spectac oh wow so you put them on you get first person
01:06:41
video it recur a circular video and it has a certain field of view what was this field of view angle okay
01:06:47
interesting I'm going to be guessing can we also prices right that one cuz sure yeah without going over I'm not going to
01:06:53
get the exact number okay I have a guess cool all right we'll think about that answers at the end like usual we'll be right
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of the podcast today we've got a bunch of rapid fire things but I have a little game I want to play because they all kind of feel like they're in the same
01:10:31
vein which I I think I going to give credit to The Verge cast for at least putting me on to this idea which is
01:10:38
something or nothing there's various other podcasts that use the same format but there's a headline that feels like
01:10:45
at first it might be something like a huge deal and then you think about it a little longer and you're like maybe this actually isn't anything at all I want to
01:10:52
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01:10:58
there's some in here where you don't even think you just know it's some are definitely much quicker all right first
01:11:04
one iPhone pre-order weekend demand was lower than expected now that at first seems like it could be a big deal but some details overall iPhone sales were down 125% year-over-year versus iPhone
01:11:17
15 sales at this same point uh Pro Series is the main slump they're down 27% and pro Max is down 16% but the base
01:11:25
16 plus was up 48% and standard was up 10% so they're kind of clearly the base ones are more popular this year but the Promax is still the most popular by far something or nothing something something
01:11:40
because we talked about how the regular phones are really exciting and clearly the industry is like regular people are agreeing sales agrees even if they don't
01:11:50
like listen to our podcast yeah they do though right all the people who buy these phones
01:11:57
listen to the Pod I think yeah feels even though it's funny because you say that and you're like oh regular one is
01:12:03
up 48% and the reg and the pro is down 27% but still the pro Max uh the volume Shi was 17.1 million units and the regular the regular unit was 7.3 million
01:12:19
So Pro Max is a runaway the pro Max is like insanely popular wow yeah okay yeah nobody's buying the plus huh no one is buying the plus which is really one actually
01:12:31
crazy yeah only 2.6 million because they climb the ladder and they're like in the middle of the ladder at that point
01:12:36
that's true like if you have the base iPhone you got the base iPhone if you're already thinking about climbing the ladder and you've gone up is it100 or
01:12:43
$200 to the plus it's it's $7.99 to $8.99 it's $100 so it's a$ 100 bucks you've already gone to $8.99 and with just another 100 you're on a pro phone that's true that's true so
01:12:55
I get it but yeah but then you want if you're going to climb again you're just going to get the biggest battery and the
01:13:01
biggest screen okay just get the prom Max yeah all right Andrew any something or nothing
01:13:07
thoughts nothing sounds like a lot but the pro Max is $200 more than the regular Pro it is because it starts at 256 instead of 128 oh the regular Pro starts at8 everyone starts at 128 except
01:13:21
for pro Max got it so they made $1.99 and 256 to start got it so they really hike you up the last Rong of the ladder
01:13:27
pretty far pretty far like we got we might as well come up 100 200 bucks um Andrew okay it feels it's nothing I don't know it's it's still an iPhone and it's still
01:13:40
controlling 80% of the American Market or whatever so yeah I think it's I mean it's interesting to see more people buying the regular models and if you bought a regular model tweet at us
01:13:51
because I want to know if you bought the teal one because it's the best color yeah apple never does color breakdowns I
01:13:57
would to know the color breakdown the pink is probably going to be really popular you think so every year we we
01:14:04
Rave about some of these colors and then people buy black and white phones it's like cars yeah like the most popular car
01:14:11
models by country are either black white or beige at the same time it's only the
01:14:17
pro models that usually have the boring colors and they do make a lot of colorful base model phones my out of nowhere hot take is
01:14:25
that if they made a colorful Pro no one would buy it true it would be immediately the least
01:14:32
popular yeah cuz the people who are like spending more on it yeah want the black
01:14:38
and white phones you don't think the people spending more want to be flashier no I was almost going to say like maybe
01:14:43
the reason this is down year-over-year versus iPhone 15 is because like there's no titanium color well there's no like
01:14:50
really flashy physical thing that screams I'm using the newest iPhone because it's all this apple intelligent
01:14:55
stuff that's coming in like 3 or four months and like people care more about hey this person knows I'm using the latest iPhone beyond the colors too they Chang the camera array on the
01:15:06
standard ones whereas the pros look exactly the same wow interesting so good point all right good point here's
01:15:12
another one another one for you Flappy Bird is coming back dot dot dot but it's crypto I don't know if that was the headline or what I wrote but still it's not the headl but it's what's
01:15:25
happening Flappy Bird coming back huge I remember Flappy Bird I didn't play that
01:15:30
many games back in the day on my phone but I do remember like five of them and one of them was Flappy Bird and it had a
01:15:36
moment everyone knew what Flappy Bird was and I guess the IP is being purchased and resurrected and it's
01:15:41
coming back not really purchased kind of stolen oh really great yeah so this story is really sad um the original creative of Flappy Bird I don't know if you guys remember this but he
01:15:53
voluntarily took the apps off the app store because he said that it was too addictive he had the opportunity to like
01:16:00
be a billionaire with this app and he was like I don't like that people are being really addicted to this so I'm going to pull it off the App Store so he
01:16:07
pulled it off the App Store immediately some sort of firm decided to like challenge the IP for it because it got pulled off the App Store way back in like 2014 nothing really happened with
01:16:18
it and then recently A couple of years ago they basically filed a motion with the US trademark office that they should have it because he wasn't using it and
01:16:30
because he lives in Vietnam he didn't get the notice to respond to the notice so he didn't and then they basically
01:16:37
took the rights for the IP wow um just for the title so they can't like use his like assets or music or whatever okay
01:16:45
but uh they are now they now have this whole new Flappy Bird is back website where they have like new birds you can play with and new levels and at first it seemed very cool until you look into
01:16:56
like the company's history and all of the stuff they've done with crypto in the past there is also this flap token
01:17:02
that is like inside of the code that they and you're going to be able to connect it to a freaking crypto wallet
01:17:09
everything you say from here on out sounds like a parody I really wish Silicon Valley 2
01:17:15
would be amazing that's all I have to say like only crypto this could have been an episode of Silicon Valley 2o oh my God the Humane pin in Silicon Valley so
01:17:27
funny that's true uh I'm going to say it's nothing because I don't think people are going to care when it re when it relaunches especially with the crypto stuff agreed yeah nothing also like
01:17:41
something like Flappy Bird that could have been a phenomenon in 2013 people it's not it's not flashy
01:17:47
enough anymore like yikyak was popular Back Then There are a zillion apps like yikyak there are zillion apps like
01:17:53
Flappy Bird like free Flappy Bird there was there was a game on like uh what what were the old Flash game websites that I can't think of Newgrounds mini clip like it was just a helicopter doing
01:18:05
the same thing way before flap yeah but that was before you had like things that were better than it that were that
01:18:10
accessible yeah like what I'm just saying is like it felt like its own phenomenon not even because of the mechanics or the way the game played
01:18:16
like it just all hit at the right time hard you guys uh you guys clearly haven't been on the website the Flappy Bird website flapy website cuz there's new characters there's a Super Mario
01:18:29
Style Overworld there's a bunch of mini games I mean it looks cool the Flappy Bird the
01:18:36
fbcu is upon us it looks relatively cool but as soon as you as soon as the crypto thing get I said it look cool I uh well I just said it exists SEO sucks cuz it's not even
01:18:50
the right page when you first go to it I do like the Super Mario uh Overworld that's cool
01:18:55
yeah anyway I'm also going with nothing nothing yeah I'm going to be the only one saying this is going to be something
01:19:02
I think it's going to be news for one day I don't think anyone's going to care that it's crypto they're just going to hear Flappy Bird's back and start
01:19:07
playing it I hope it's something and I hope that something is a giant dumpster fire yeah I hope they get investigated
01:19:15
by the FCC and coffeezilla and then it gets this oh this is going to make a sick coffee zepic coffe crypto Zoo how
01:19:24
about how about Flappy Bird FL bird flap token all right speaking of things I read like
01:19:29
a parody here's another one wle is now available in virtual reality something huh less than nothing huh in the ground anybody still playing
01:19:43
wle opportunity uh there's an official whle app for meta Quest headsets and I first read the headline and I was like what that sounds cool maybe I'm just like lobbing like letters into a box in
01:19:53
like a basketball game it's just like a screen floating in midair it's nothing it's definitely nothing you don't even
01:19:59
have to yeah not only that and the New York Times is too lazy to also add connections and some of their other
01:20:05
popular games it is only Wordle wow it speaks to like the people I think the Nostalgia cash grab is my personal least favorite like lazy Tech thing that happens every couple months and you're
01:20:16
just like hey remember this you liked it well it's back it's like okay I I need something more than that this is that
01:20:22
this is like hey wle and speak as the probably the last person here who still plays worldle like almost every day this
01:20:30
ain't it this Ain it I also think that things being labeled as VR when it is just a screen of the thing floating
01:20:37
screen is not really VR yes agreed like this needs to be like my task app idea like like the the thing that you can do with VR is you can raise the stakes man like like like I think you get you get
01:20:49
your first word wrong bro and like maybe like something slightly scary one of your wall oh my goodness one of your like walls in your house like falls down you know what I mean and by by the
01:21:02
time you have one left you should be like in Mustafar bro like there should be Lava and dinosaurs and like it should
01:21:10
be high stress High Stak Squirtle there's so much opportunity for old 2D games to be put into VR and make them fun I want VR Tetris where you're
01:21:21
standing at the top of the game board and you have to no no you have to jump down the shoot as the piece like you're like parachuting out of a plane except you're standing on top
01:21:33
of the 3D shape with your yeah and you make the shape as you go down and go back bar every time bar bar the funny thing is like Tetris moves so fast how
01:21:45
would you possibly make this book move F slow down for VR like did you ever guys ever play speed Halo back in the day it
01:21:52
just be like that speed Halo speed Halo no oh my god do we have time for this t i play Halo too let's save it okay we'll
01:21:59
save it if you played speed Halo back in the day I see you I just pictured somebody wearing a VR headset doing like
01:22:04
the ray gun dance of just like trying to make a shape on the ground oh good times
01:22:10
okay so that's yeah that's nothing definitely nothing okay here's another headline less than uh Beats by Dre make iPhone cases
01:22:18
now we have two of them right here they have uh support for the Apple uh camera control they are $50 they show every fingerprint you've ever had something or
01:22:31
nothing unfortunately something oh no because the name brand alone will sell a lot of cases number one I think do do they sound good hold on I have a question it has
01:22:44
the mag safe logo on the back you know how easily this could have just been the Beats logo and still match up with the
01:22:50
mag safe logo where were you when they had these meetings Andrew that is a genius idea
01:22:56
it's right here on the side that could just move this line right here that's the and they could have had it slightly
01:23:02
differently colored to show the mag safe portion damn oh my God nothing that shows how much thought probably went they were like hey wait we got like seven or eight cases y'all could you
01:23:13
like spin up two or three more yeah there you go do you think they were like oh we've got this new material for Apple first party cases but they're really
01:23:20
fingerprinted but we ordered way too many what do we do they're like oh woven was Apple branded and it didn't go well
01:23:26
so if we just branded something different and it doesn't go well we're not really liable sorry that was
01:23:33
Dre yeah you go to beat's website it's headphones headphones headphones headphones headphones earbuds earbuds
01:23:39
earbuds speaker case that's so weird what do you want him to make next dude make a backpack do something crazy a VR VR Krypto Krypto I say unfortunately
01:23:53
something because I even though I don't personally think that the brand matters a lot of people
01:24:00
probably do um it's the same price as the Apple TPU cases and you're getting the Beats brand um yeah that's about it you think that
01:24:10
we'll see more after this I think this is a trial run yeah could easily be a trial run I agree with David as in these
01:24:17
will sell but I'm interested as if they will progress yeah yeah okay yeah we're in between something or nothing last one um YouTube has announced a new feature
01:24:30
and I'm not really sure what it's called but it's a place where they've accumulated the top 100 most hyped videos by small creators let's just call
01:24:44
it YouTube hype or the hype leaderboard is what it basically is hyp list I think call feature called hype hype okay hype
01:24:52
yeah the feature called hype the feature is called hype okay so what happens is this is a top 100 list of videos that are all under one week old and all
01:25:02
uploaded by YouTube creators with less than 500,000 subscribers so it's a place to surface videos by smaller creators heck yeah and the way that they rise and fall on this chart is by being gifted
01:25:15
Hypes and everyone everyone on YouTube has three Hypes per week that they can give to a new video by a small Channel so the videos at the top have the most
01:25:28
Hypes in this one we period and there is a top 100 sorted by category I think that's everything there is to this you know we don't have 500k
01:25:40
subscribers so if people want to give us new W for episode could show up here the LA oh the last thing I think is which is why you have subscrib so that we can't use this yeah we we want to
01:25:53
avoid um the last thing is if you run out of Hypes let's say you've given your three
01:25:59
Hypes already you come across a banger way for episode you can buy another hype for $2 so microtransactions I have a hot no don't do I have a hot take about this
01:26:10
MH um one that's what the gosh darn like button is for you idiots two this is just a way for YouTube to like they looked at what
01:26:23
Reddit did with Reddit Gold because Reddit Gold was a similar thing where like it didn't really do much but you
01:26:29
paid real money for it and it was a way to like say thank you this was really good content and even though I think
01:26:35
they got rid of Reddit Gold which is insane by the way because that's like that was a really good free money maker
01:26:41
for them they also did it semi on the sense of like how Wikipedia asked for a donation is like you're not getting
01:26:47
anything out of it besides these little things but like it used to be it used to say you've helped fund this many server
01:26:53
hours well when it was more about the community and less about Huffman's Pockets um yeah but my hot take is that YouTube looked at that and they were like oh yeah like you'll feel like
01:27:07
you're supporting a Creator if you hype them because you're buying Hypes for $2 a hype and it's like okay but then
01:27:13
you're just paying YouTube which by the way is not like a small website that has to be funded by the
01:27:18
community and you could just pay the Creator money yeah chances are they have like super chats available if it's a video yeah and it feels it feels like this is also my concern about this is
01:27:30
that it feels pay to win like you could just the the bot accounts that are just being spam created you could just pay a
01:27:38
bunch of dollars on all of these bot Accounts at least in that case YouTube makes money yeah here's a theory that's
01:27:43
what they're aiming for because no way that $2 or however much money you'd have to spend to be on this leaderboard that no one's going to look at um is worth the amount of views you're going to get
01:27:54
out of that leaderboard yeah yeah so is the way this works that just like the most hype videos show up on the
01:28:00
leaderboard yeah that's so messed up it's literally pay to win well yeah yeah I mean you get three free Hypes and theness the the is most Hypes will be the free Hypes hopefully sure here
01:28:12
here's my other conspiracy theory that makes no sense okay miles has been talking about those Bots that just post six names have you seen those it's like
01:28:23
in comment section it's just it just will say like six names it's another New Wave yeah somebody was making the theory
01:28:30
that that's like unfl Flagg comments and that it gains trust in the the user Creator I think it was me it was ell yeah so now my thought is those people knew this was coming so they're trying
01:28:41
to make as many accounts that are now trusted because they have multiple comments that are not flag that they'll
01:28:47
get their three free Heights and they can bought those all on the same one on a crypto video I think a live Elon Musk
01:28:55
crypto video I feel like I can verify the first half of your conspiracy theory which is that uh look I'm going to the Creator Summit this week There's always
01:29:06
questions about spam accounts that come up and every time YouTube has it to address it they basically say the same thing which is Spam accounts will always
01:29:13
be a thing yeah because there's always something to gain from them spamming and from YouTube's end it's basically a giant game of whacka all we develop a new system to help determine which
01:29:25
comments are real and which ones are spam and then spammers figure out that system and then figure out a specific
01:29:33
hack to determine a way to make their account look real again then YouTube whacka develops a new system to find a
01:29:40
way so they're just going back and forth trying to cover up spam over and over again and I think what you're saying is
01:29:45
totally valid which is one of the newest systems YouTube properly developed was a way to go look if you just created an
01:29:51
account yesterday and you've left 100 comments on 100 different videos that's probably spam but if you have a
01:29:58
four-year-old account or you've left a bunch of comments on a bunch of other videos that didn't get flagged to spam
01:30:04
then you're probably a real person so we give that a little more benefit of the doubt and so what they've decided to do
01:30:11
is just leave a bunch of Noto spammy innocent looking comments on a bunch of random videos to gain that algorithmic trust so that they can then go spam so
01:30:24
they're generating reputable looking accounts so they can go spam I think that's that's actually what's happening
01:30:29
that's that was Ellis's Theory and I think at some point YouTube will I will take credit for it yeah YouTube will have to figure out a new thing maybe
01:30:35
it's like comment frequency or or style of like repeating the same comment over and over maybe that will get you flaged
01:30:41
like there will have to be new systems that YouTube develops whack them all then they will continue to develop new
01:30:47
spam ways to get around that it's just something we constantly see in like I feel like it's like six week windows so
01:30:54
yeah this is the new wave um I I have like two two takes about this hype thing one is it will be dead in a year yeah six months six months six months not even a year the other
01:31:08
is this kind of does exactly what YouTube always says the algorithm is supposed to do which is surface content
01:31:14
that you like based on engagement and like you said we have a like button we have a comment section YouTube's
01:31:20
supposed to surface videos no matter how small or how big the Creator is is to the people that want to see it yeah this
01:31:26
is like a nice way of us of like feeling like we have the power like yes uh this is a video that we brought to the
01:31:32
attention of the like button but that's always been true with our own engagement so I'm like it's it's kind of just like
01:31:39
feel like a cash grab to me yeah do you know what the algorithm can't do make you pay $2.99 yeah I guess it's a win for
01:31:46
YouTube YouTube gets to feel like they're giving us a little bit of power like oh yeah see you made this video chart cuz the trending page was never
01:31:52
our direct input but now also they make some money from hype so yeah I'd rather have three free super dislikes super dis
01:32:00
wait I'm on board describe super dislike like if I super dislike a video now I can see all the dislikes and then people
01:32:06
get to see it and I thought you were going to say it like a video and well if enough people super dislike something
01:32:14
later I think about that YouTube that there will be major drama around this within 2 weeks of launching because
01:32:21
there will be some exploit that some does and there will be a crypto vid there will be a crypto video in the top
01:32:27
100 hyped videos within the first two weeks MH um and then my other prediction is that it will be gone in six months
01:32:34
yeah yeah I think it's lit I think it's really cool I think I I don't know what you guys are talking about this who you hyping first look because dude i' I so many channels I'd love to Hype because
01:32:47
when when you're I live on the sub 500k subscriber side of YouTube like that's my sort of bread and butter and I notice
01:32:54
a lot that like when you're a small Channel you're not making a ton of Revenue off of it you go on hot streaks
01:33:01
you know what I mean where you'll put out like five or six videos that just smack they're so good and then you'll go
01:33:06
back to you know your sort of like average level and the feeling I get as a fan when I watch one of those videos
01:33:12
where I'm like yo this dude's on a hot streak right now like everything is like kind of flames and I would really like
01:33:19
the ability to signal that I'm someone who's very familiar with this person's videos and this one is a special video
01:33:27
that I think has the potential to reach a broader audience and that's something that the like button doesn't do because
01:33:32
if you're not part of that Creator's established audience and you get served the video you you can like it and it
01:33:38
does give the algorithm like valuable information the algorithm serves me great content but I really like the
01:33:43
ability to say like yo here I'll do Courtney Victoria's last video that hit she only has 30,000 or 50 or whatever how many you know small Channel like that person is not going to get Traction
01:33:56
in the algorithm without people who know the content being like I well here's the
01:34:02
problem it's a list of a 100 people a week the competition to get there is extremely high 30,000 and this can go up
01:34:10
to 500,000 they've lost already they're not going to have enough people versus the 400,000 maybe if I if I open my
01:34:18
wall that's and that person I got you Courtney yeah she'd be so much happier if if you just did the thanks button and gave her $2 and said this is a really
01:34:28
sweet video I super appreciate it or join the membership aspect of it that wouldit them so much more be way more
01:34:33
fun if it was like creators below 50,000 subscribers well yeah they have to put the line somewhere there's a lot of shorts channels that are like they claim in the thing that 500,000 is where
01:34:45
things really make a change or change which is a very 2024 number I think that would have been lower years ago yeah
01:34:51
yeah I I think like you have a good point and like that's what this feels like it's for I just feel like the
01:34:57
algorithm is already doing that because of the signals that everyone gives it if
01:35:02
people who haven't watched the channel before show up at a video and they're like oh this is sick I haven't seen this and like it the algorithm goes oh you
01:35:10
like that I got all the latest bangers from this channel surface for you you're right you're right and also not to
01:35:15
destroy my own point but all of these small channels I did find on the existing Al exactly yeah so so granted
01:35:24
but I still think it's tight and I will be hyping I'll be H to swap I'll be hyping you uh tons of small channels so get ready all right we'll see when this
01:35:34
launches we'll see what happens we'll see if way for gets any hype yeah hype us yeah let's get to 500,000 before and
01:35:39
if you're going to pay money to Hype us uh don't instead of paying money to Hype us just like and subcribe give the
01:35:46
algorithm what it needs push us past the point where we can be hyped go to on your family member's phone enable our CS
01:35:54
update and then like and subscribe to waveform and then hype waveform well until we can't anymore thing about the algorithm is if you subscribe to a channel and then don't watch the videos
01:36:06
that come out that's actually a negative signal to the algorithm really yes oh that's my super dislike yes got him dude
01:36:14
so just keep that in mind anyway I think we've reached the end of our 6our podcast which means it's time for trivia
01:36:25
I'm sorry Adam Molina this is the longest podcast of all time all right so RCS is officially here on the iPhone Google did it or someone did it well the
01:36:37
European Union did it the European Union yeah apple did not care about what Google was doing I know it was that was
01:36:44
a so that was anyway um yeah but it took a really long time to get here and a long time ago in the very Universe we exist in today the gsma which is a
01:36:56
finish mobile handset cellular organizing industry body announced to the world they announced to the world we have this thing called RCS we're
01:37:07
developing it we have this huge list of Industry players that are on board and get ready for RCS to be on your phone
01:37:14
what year did that press release come out could I have said the question any more clearly that time yes also it's Price is Right rules what's
01:37:27
RCS Price is Right wait this is the question I had you said furthest away from it's prices right so if you guess a year after the year after the year you
01:37:38
are disqualified yeah oh I don't like my answer anymore but whatever let's try it wow yikes great answers on the board guys
01:37:48
who wants to go first horrible um let's go from lowest to highest okay okay I have 2005 2005 is under the year so you are not disqualified 2007 also under the
01:37:59
year not disqualified 2013 unfortunately Marquez I think it's 2008 right it is in
01:38:04
fact 2008 I thought it was 2008 but I didn't want to go over so I did 2007 anyway before I pass the mic to my lovely co-host Adam let's recap the
01:38:16
scores real quick because there are they're looking a little crazy falling behind Marquez 17 points third place uh
01:38:23
Beth The Listener who wrote to us about uh textiles one point David Pierce one point Ellis carry the one Google actually in last place with minus three
01:38:36
points and Andrew and David TI oh with 21 points exciting I did have some support for my blue healer just saying bler what was what were they saying that
01:38:48
I'm no that was that was on the fence but when I have a guy as smart as Adam next me I got to defer to him you know
01:38:55
anyway Adam take it away Adam I'm making this podcast 25 more minutes now blue healer next question mhm what was the field of view of the original Snapchat
01:39:09
spectacles Google YouTube hype oh wait no that's that just came out today it is already it is already episode 3 came out
01:39:25
100% air Power air power or q y all right flip him and read closest without going over
01:39:36
again I'm screwed smallest one every time what what did you say 147 147 then marz I wrote 167 167 David 170 the was
01:39:50
115 oh so none of you got it all over significantly over that is brutal yeah 115° field of view can we do closest without going under no going oh
01:40:03
hour six of our pod this has been great thanks for watching thanks for listening
01:40:09
uh also thanks for subscribing thanks for hyping Thanks for liking and uh we appreciate you for all oh no that's
01:40:15
going to be a new call to action thanks for hyping hype my video if I get 100,000 Hypes on this video I will give
01:40:22
I will give away a product can do an illegal Lottery and then I'll immediately pass 500k and then I cannot
01:40:27
abuse the system anymore thanks for updating your friends and Family's iPhones to iOS 18 thanks for doing that
01:40:32
too okay catch you guys next week peace W for was produced by Adam Alina who's very happy about this episode Ellis Ren
01:40:39
and we're partner with VOX media podcast Network and our interaction music was created by V still
01:40:59
can you guys add my kazoon noise no David it's so funny okay okay yeah