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I want a cmf like homepod tablet no we don't cmf tablet would be so bad get a get a Kindle Fire for kids that's what that is that that would be so cool with the nothing OS it'd be nice Kindle Fire
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well just get a Kindle Fire kids and run a ROM on it oh yeah now David now we're
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[Music] talking what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm arquez I'm Andrew and I'm David and
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we had some stuff happen this week we had an event we had a Samsung event that we can talk about unpacking all of the
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unpacked things uh that was bad I feel like joke every six months it's Evergreen I can't help myself um pixel 9 rumors cmf phone final thoughts that $200 Android phone that came out and
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some comments on Spotify podcasts yeah some fun variety we have comments on Spotify podcasts or there are comments
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both we have comments on the comments on Spotify podcast that's right wow good job talking this is an alltime intro uh
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but first thing on the list I have here is YouTube eraser tool for copyrighted music I want to test this because I'm
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suspicious of it working well but I want it to I think the announcement of this is suspicious of it working well as well
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so here I'll just say what the announcement is and then you can decide for yourself if you think it's going to work well or not but I haven't tried it
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yet so you know how if you have like copyrighted music in a video you can just mute that section of the video or just mute the whole video to maintain
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normal status of the video which is lame it it kind of sucks because you if it's like the if it's the intro for example
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and you talk over the end of the music you just have to mute that section yeah so if it's the first 20 seconds it's
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just completely blank and then it just suddenly has audio again and that's the solution that's been available for right
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now um this new tool is supposed to be able to use AI you can see where this is going to just remove the music itself from the video and leave everything else
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so if you had sound effects if you had uh other noises like your voice it would stay in the video yeah I think it should be able to work but I'm highly suspicious yeah I'll put it that way
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there might be some artifacting on the edges and stuff probably you know yeah yeah it's so and like the way it works
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is when you get that copyright claim in your YouTube studio it'll say like you know claim is from 0 seconds to 15
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seconds right and I'll take that part of the that part of the video and have a select actions button so you can either
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get rid of the song you can replace the song with something from YouTube's copyright Free Library you can just cut
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the segment out all I mean it's better than nothing if it's dead quiet or you can mute all sounds in that segment yeah
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they also though say that like in the announcement they were basically like you can just the reason that cut the segment out or mut all sounds is if it doesn't work that well yeah that's why
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I'm also like wary of it working well because do you know the blur feature that they have boy do I the blur feature
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for us has gone extremely poorly if anyone wants to go back and look at the R6 phone review I believe it is oh there was a part in it where you had to blur
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out the um email address or it was a calendar event I think if you go back now that blur has like spread to other parts of the video where rather than
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just that there is no floating blur around random parts of the video Someone marquez's face it's like an infection it
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literally is like infected yeah you're supposed to be a so weird like do a tracking blur like the tool is actually pretty good in YouTube you're like
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here's the bo you draw the box and it's like track it from this time to this time and then it would seem to work and
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you hit save and then YouTube processes it and then you come back a few hours later and it's like here's the tracked blur and sometimes it works sometimes it
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tracks the wrong thing it's it tracks outside of the times you suggested it's all over the rest of the video just yeah
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it's going on for almost a full minute in this video God oh my God yeah that's just what it does it's just like God and when you first did it it was perfect it
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worked it is just like covering your face everyone go watch the RG phone 6 review cuz this is so funny it's so if
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this is what happens who are we to say that it's not going to like take out a pie this was correct at first and now
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it's just completely changed and now it goes on for a full minute I don't know it just blurs the entire phone we
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haven't even got to the part that it's supposed to be blurring oh my gosh um but yeah so who say by new comments and
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see if anyone's no no they do this happened because of uh it was on Reddit one day and I saw
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it from a few months old and yeah now there are a ton of comments like what why is part of the screen blurred and
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then more people talk about it later but who's to say now the music isn't going to cut off at 15 seconds first and then
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next thing we know there's just going to be like the whole video Silent whole silent or you you replace it with the
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like YouTube library and now it's just going throughout the entire thing noises yeah we'll see I have faith you have
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faith I do you think the technology is there that it would I think the technology is there do I think the
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technology is there absolutely do I think YouTube possesses it in their Arsenal time will tell but like I just set up a little a little demonstration here on my computer like if I were to
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play and this is not YouTube tool this is these are Ellis's tools uh but if I were to play like and others aren't I
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know it's a weird question but stick with me dialogue and music together you know what I mean sorry I was kind of loud I'm going to turn that down a
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little bit I was going to say I know my headphones are hot but wow but I believe I
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can take out almost all the dialogue pretty easily wait why is there someone just gurgling now CU it can't it's not
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perfect you know what I mean and then vice versa man is the same true with speakers
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well it could take out 90% of the bang and ol and explore it's not the same size about the same weight but totally so it's not perfect but also remember about how well it'll go well also
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remember this is this is real time processing this is not render ahead of time so if it did that though and then
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yeah did put the YouTube copyright free music on it even though that music's not going to be great if that music can
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cover some of the little artifacts and not perfectness of it wait you don't like the sound
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wait can you now take that and only take out the audio from that or the S dialog
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gurgling never mind we're way too way too deep in an episode you mean like this yeah yeah yeah now do that a thousand more times
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and we've got a studio video bangers only if anyone's curious uh the plugin I was using is called extract dialogue by
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Aon digital Aon they do everything love Aon yeah convi music anyway okay uh next
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thing on the list I can't believe nobody nobody picked up on that yeah I just can't remember a single song that he
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did beautiful he's he's the featured verse on Gwen Stefani's What's that name of that song about that's every Aon song you know
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that one Aon one it's the one about about breaking the law oh smack that every yeah that's an that's the big one Sweet Escape Sweet Escape by Gwen Stefani has an acon verse sweet
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beautiful is that not the right one oh that's a different girl sorry okay I don't know no that's someone else sorry that's I messed that one up Sean Kingston sorry okay speaking of okay
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this is a challenging one Speaking of things that are um speaking of things that are where you thought they would
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be that didn't work at all that's so I'm going to have to try that one again later but hey wait I got one Speaking of
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things that you cover up like the music that you that's better that's better Ellis
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crimes uh pixel 9 is rumored to finally get the ultrasonic fingerprint reader finally finally I found this funny cuz
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we talked about this last week of like one of the things on our wish list was either top-of-the-line ultrasonic
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fingerprint sensors or physical fingerprint sensors we don't want this in the middle of crap and it looks like
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we might be getting that for the pixel I'm I'm very ex I just want to point out that Samsung used the ultrasonic
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fingerprint sensor in the Galaxy S10 and you know what's funny and nobody ever does it there's a lot of things that
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Samsung has been doing for many years in a row unchanged on their last few phones that are just fine that are still
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totally fine the ultrasonic fingerprint reader is one of them yeah it's fine it's quick it seems to work conditions
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like it's it's it's one of those things that's fine yeah yeah please bring to the pixel it's just crazy that it's taken this long to get to other phones
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but hopefully they're using the bigger Qualcomm one that came out a few years ago they like upgraded it yeah you have
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more spot to put your finger on in the phone yeah yeah something else reading this article that I don't think we've
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talked about and David seemed to know a little bit when I asked him about it but there's supposed to be three different
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pixel 99's this year yeah like a like an ultra but not called the ultra well so I
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think it's a little different from what I read from this article was there's a pixel9 pixel9 pro and pixel9 pro XL but
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yeah the pixel9 pro XL would just be like what the pixel 8 Pro was and rather the pixel9 pro would be the same size as
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the regular pixel 9 but getting the extra features like the third camera and I'm guessing like not a biger screen and
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Battery it's the all the features of the pro but in the the smaller form factor and
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okay you'll also have the pixel 9 Pro fold which is just the next fold with better naming worse naming worse naming bro well okay because we had pixel fold so is the pixel Pro fold going to be
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better than a regular pixel fold or is that just what we're calling the fold we're just calling the fold that nowold expensive yeah just because it's
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expensive okay marketing and then there's going to be an A so then we're going to have five different pixels okay
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this is my gripe about this we're going to put the folds number to match with everything else but are we still going to be a whole ass number behind on the a
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or like six months we already have the a a but we will be six months behind for sure yeah which is
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D yeah I imagine they're worried that they wouldn't sell enough of the Pro Models if they launched the cheap model with the Pro Models because a lot of the time it's
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like it's like the 8A is very very similar to the eight yeah very very very similar so I think that after six months or so go by they're like all right now we people will buy the cheaper model I
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think my gripe is just like in the calendar year there's an eight and a 9 coming out yeah where like I would love to see in the calendar year the numbers match up I don't know why that makes me
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sad I agree yeah I'm excited for Pixel 9 Pro the smaller better feature that sounds great if it's exactly the way you're describing it it's just all the pro features but not bigger that sounds not a hug screen yeah yeah the
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thing is it's already big the yeah but it's it's not going to be even bigger that's true you know yeah I mean the
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rumors are that the new iPhones are going to be even larger isn't there supposed to be a thin also or slim
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that's going to be the 17 I believe yeah slim because they have a new battery techn slim not small Alis calm down
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why why yeah apparently all all of the Apple products are going to get like a thinness downgrade why because for some
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reason every time we invent new battery technology that holds more power and a Slimmer profile instead of just giving
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us better battery life they're always like we can make it thinner with the same battery life which is not what
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anybody wants but it's so much more appealing is it to look at it it makes a better ad bro it makes a better poster this MacBook Pro the thick boy is the
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best thing they've ever done making it thicker no I agree I'm fully on your side I'm just saying if you're a company
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that needs to make a few headlines or make a few posters or Billboards but are we at the part of thinness becoming so minute like this is like dxo marks
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getting one more better score every year like yeah it runs out and now nobody talks about dxo Mark anymore are we that
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much more interesting about .1 mm thinner we were for the iPad I mean if they are making it significantly thinner that's sexier than significantly more battery life like can you make a
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poster I feel like but for like impressing regular people yeah what really I think saying two-day battery life versus yeah 1.5 mm versus 1.4 MMS
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it's not the millimeter number it's just look at how look at this razor thin thing true but Mark see here's the thing
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is like if we just keep making it thinner and thinner crumple phone eventually it becomes a knife and then
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we have to be worried a razor yeah a razor you you said razor thin but it's like where does it end yeah I do think that the regular consumer the the I'm
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walking into a carrier store and buying the newest version of the thing and I didn't do any research beforehand people
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which is probably like 85% of consumers are more drawn to the fact that it looks
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a little bit different than the fact that it has better battery life cuz they probably don't know that yeah but I can
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you just make okay you know remember the Duracell phone yeah that was like it 20,000 milliamp hours or something and
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it was like this thick and like couldn't even fit in your pocket it's like that eraser over if they could make that
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battery capacity but in the size of like a regular phone or slightly bigger than a regular phone that would be sick or
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that phone but like a 100,000 million poers can I let's talk about that charge my car yeah charge reverse wireless charging K hours
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a kilowatt in your phone wouldn't it be epic if you never had to charge your phone it's I agree but also when you
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like think of like movies and like futuristic Tech you never hear anyone go like oh yeah I bet those things have infinite battery life it's more just oh
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it's transparent so thin it's basically see-through it's like a piece of paper with a computer in it cuz they do uh
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photosynthesis to get power yeah yeah we just supposed to ignore the power part yeah yeah can I ask you guys a question
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as the the real experts in the room here no all right let's who are you talking to too all three of you and uh but I I
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feel like you have so in in in sound there's this scientifically documented phenomena where the the louder people
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hear something the more likely they are to enjoy it regardless of the actual content of the the thing and I'm curious
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if you guys think there's a smartphone equivalent like if someone who has never seen a particular device before just
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holds it in their hand is there a particular facet that just makes their brain go this is good there's like three
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or four of those weight weight up weight down weight up heavy good there is a Tipping Point but generally heavier feels more premium less heavy I think that's sh a lot of things I think like
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camping equipment also gets to this point where things get so good and expensive they're supposed to be light and those things feel cheap because
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they're lighter yeah when they manufacture really expensive ultra thin material you're like I could rip right through this even though you can't
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soccer cleats the more you pay the less material you get it's really funny uh the size of the screen okay generally
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the brightness yeah the brightness of the screen so if you're able to give someone a big bright screen it feels like you're getting good instead of
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small dim screen bad which I think is really easy cuz most people are walking into that Verizon store with their own
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phone that is destroyed and they're like this look bad and they're like screen protectors like bubbly and like half
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falling off they look at that and they're like wow good I get good good product but is thinness one of those things do you think I think when you looking at it not holding it yeah
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visually I think though that's my argument with this is I think Fitness is one I think the the what we're doing to
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thinness right now is so minuscule that I don't think someone picking it up is going to be like this is that much thinner when you pick up the new iPad
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everyone is like wow this is thin really I don't think the average person would know the difference between those two I
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think I think this is a video I think if we get like 10 people who just do not care about smartphones and just start
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handing them phones and be like you know yeah they only get 10 seconds with him you know just be like John Morrison did something really interesting along this line back when the iPhone promotion 10r
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came out no with the like remember the like low PPI screen yeah and he put two next to each other or I don't know he put it on it was like this is the new iPhone what do you think and everyone's like this looks so good but everyone
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online was like it's 348 PPI that's such a crappy screen and uh yeah good video nerds I do have lots of video ideas of like man on the street style handing a
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person in New York City a piece of tech and being like and not even saying anything just being like what do you think notice anything cuz I I have my
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theories about whether or not people notice High refresh rate but every time I think of doing one of those videos I
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think someone would just grab it and run away I was just going to say that video is not going to work when it's just four people stealing phones and I got a brand
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new phone for you it's about a, oh oh if you do it you have to wear the DIYs headphones and The Vision Pro at the
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same time well then no one's going up to me touch these pieces of Technology give me your thoughts yeah uh we'll figure out a way
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to do it eventually uh speaking of really expensive phones not this yeah not this one baby oh that's a good style
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of Segway speaking of a not that uh the cmf the cmf phone is out we were talking about this last week the cmf won by nothing two weeks ago it's kind of confusing yes by nothing it's
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confusing how we've covered this we talked about it two weeks ago because there was supposed to be the
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announcement of it and then we recorded last week's episode on Tuesday and then Wednesday cmf was just like let's show
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everyone it so we didn't get to talk about it at all and then we did our whole video so that's now out go watch
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it on the main Channel but we have some last thoughts and also like I took down some things people were saying in the comments sure that we can final thoughts it out you mean roote down we didn't
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take down your comments we took them down I delete comments every day it's my favorite part of the day he's lying uh I
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do not that I guess I'll just start with like high Lev thoughts on it I think it's a pretty interesting phone and a
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possibly pretty compelling phone for a lot of people it is a big phone big bright screen big bright good
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yes it has it's a $200 phone and it's basically it's giving you like some basic specs and a plastic build and a replaceable back and a small accessory e
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ecosystem that could possibly grow and that's unique that's like pretty interesting I do really wish since you
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can take the back off I wish they let you swap out the battery that's what most number com saying that would have been a huge opportunity for them I
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wonder why they didn't do that I've got to assume that just like cuz they all knew that they used to do it all the
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time but no one makes batteries like that anymore so it probably but you can buy the battery from the manufacturer to
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glue into the phone yeah but it would have to be the different type of connection point on it right like it
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used to pins that SL I just miss having infinite battery life on my phone like you would
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wait until it was almost dead you just swap in a new one that you had fully charged and you put the Dead one on the charger my Galaxy Nexus I would walk
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around with like four batteries on me like they should not have let me on get on a plane what are those Galaxy
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Nexus needed that I had I had extended battery on my next uh my Galaxy S3 actually it had like a thicker back and then you could buy like a thick plastic back to it so madei but you had a bigger
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battery so like this is my mod for when we were doing research on this phone I was like looking into cuz we were
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talking about motomaker a little bit which for those that don't remember when the Moto X came out which was like an
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amazing phone made by Motorola but it was basically a Google Play edition in a lot of ways you were able to like choose
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all of these different things about the phone they were they made this whole big deal about how it was made in it was made locally in Texas and you could
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change like all these different materials of the back back of your phone you could change like the colors of the buttons and all this different stuff and
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it would be shipped to you and it be a unique phone that was yours and I was doing research on this because we were comparing it to that um because you can
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swap out the back with the colorways and stuff the Moto X was also $200 but it was a flagship at the time which is
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crazy nice little dimple in the back crazy that was a nice form factor that was an amazing for factor I got my
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sister to buy it when it first came out cuz I was like I got to get everyone to buy this phone and the first day she dropped it in the
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toilet oh so wow they sent her another one um next biggest comment I saw on our video was people very upset about lack of NFC on this yeah I think it's a huge
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huge mess depends on the market so this phone is not coming to the US in the normal way it's like it's $200 through a
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beta program and I don't really know how much volume they're expecting there but I think in the markets it's intended for
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which is I think mostly Asian India and those markets NFC is emerging in a way that it's like you expect most new phones to have NFC but not every phone has NFC but it's so cheap that it's like
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it might as well have NFC yeah and I don't know for this $200 phone it just feels like a I just wonder how much it
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cost to add in I wonder that also cuz it's very easy for a lot of people to say like oh it's only a 10cent piece or
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something like that but then is that is that piece compatible with all the things are already there how many different changes I don't know enough
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about creating a phone but I just feel like it's most likely a little bit more than just one piece they already cut so
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many corners to make it $200 I think $200 is such a good price on this yeah and also it has a removable back so do
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they put the NFC in the removable back or in on the back of the phone underneath the back underneath the
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back yeah I guess underneath it then it's just kind of exposed I still think they could have done it I it feels like a big Miss to me especially if you're
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planning on keeping the phone for a number of years like yes maybe NFC is like growing more in those markets but
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do you really want to be the person who in two years when all of a sudden everything has mobile payments and you don't have the thing that can do it yeah
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I have a stupid question which is other than payments and third party NFC like chips and tags yeah what does it do NFC yeah because it doesn't do airdrop it
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doesn't do it doesn't do data transfer it's public transportation sometimes still consider that a payment yeah oh no
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I mean like a ticket I don't know if that's as wide I still put that like under pay
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sort of yeah like it's but that's a big just payments is huge super cool thing about NFC um when your phone dies your
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NFC tag can still your NFC chip in your phone can still work that is true so if you're like in the city and your phone's
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dead you can still tap to get onto the subway okay because it like stores your card information in the strip passively
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yeah passively so but is there that much more that it it it does am I missing no I mean it I
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just think that's a big thing when NFC first started coming to phones they like Samsung started marketing these NFC tags
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that they were selling that you could just like put all over your house and the idea was that you could like you could have it next to your door so you
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tap your phone to the tag next to your door and all your lights turn off like that kind of thing and I have like an NFC business card that has all my uh
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personal information on it shout out Shen um but uh I I see what you're saying I I don't even use like tap to pay on I'm trying to be devil advocate even I just I I genuinely tap toay has
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exploded like worldwide though in the last couple of years but here's the thing so you asked in the video that
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you're not very familiar with the Indian market and if anybody has any experiences um and someone on our Discord I'm going to try and pronounce
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his name but I'm definitely going to get it wrong so I'm sorry a nush a n t h um
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they wrote a very nice long thing in our Discord about just like it in the Indian
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market and the first thing is he says uh you of NFC here is pretty non-existent in India UPI has become the primary
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method of transaction for anyone looking to do a digital transfer of any kind whether it's Merchant payment or paying bills what is UPI I do not know is that
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like someone is like a WeChat kind of thing my guess you don't need any special parts for that and the transaction can be carried out securely
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in a normal smartphone in fact even features support even feature phones support smaller UPI transactions without
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being connected to the internet so NFC is no loss for a phone here okay in Indian instant payment system as well as
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protocol developed by the national payments Corporation of India in 2016 facilitates interbank peer-to-peer
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person to Merchant transactions but is that just like a protocol that you use in an app because it's still easier to tap something but I will say like if UPI
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is the main reason the main way that people pay there then I'm not going to I'm not about to be like but you have to
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have NFC if nobody uses it so my preliminary research and I would love to hear from our Indian viewers about how wrong I am but it seems like UPI the
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thing we can close most closely compare it to in the United States is zel like it's it's operated by industry
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Representatives entire banking organization and it provides secure transfer but over classic data as
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opposed to yeah yeah so is it just like in an app you can't like tap your phone to anything to get it it's integrated
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into lots of apps that Z maybe they have codes that you can like scan and then it automatically opens it up and you can send money that way maybe that's right yeah anyway this
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was interesting yeah that was I would like to learn more about UPI thanks Discord yeah thanks did did they say
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anything else that was interesting in that post um I really liked how they talked about how like Carl pay at one
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point a long time ago mentioned that 2 megapixel cameras in other phones were dumb and now they've got the like
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basically useless camera on this um yeah almost that's some other useful stuff uh that the initial price is an introductory uh offer price and that on flip cart it seems like it's going to be
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20K INR not 16k INR okay some of this I don't understand quite as much because I
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just uh yeah that's something that happens a lot with budget phones for the pr they will launch at a really awesome
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price and then all the videos that come out about it talk about the phone that cost this much and then a month two
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months go by and then the price is by the way that's about $240 yeah the differ between not the
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difference the total okay which is still you know in the same range but like obviously that's a that's a move that
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they're making to make 20% more money next comment I saw the most of and Marquez you might have you have to clue
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Us in on here did you bend the back case like USBC Port when you swirling it there was a bunch of controversy about that on Twitter and people was like controversy you going to address this
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and I was like what oh yeah I it's a plastic it's a cheap plastic back but it happened when you were like spinning it to show it rather if you put in your backpack or if you put in your back pocket if you just carry it around it
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might get bent and I like physically bent some of them on camera as well if you do that too much the thinnest part
00:28:16
is right at the USBC Port where there's like a cutout in the middle so the top and bottom are the thinnest pieces of plastic yeah that's that's probably
00:28:23
going to get some uh some damage if you do that torquing it like that off of the
00:28:28
phone twerk twerk not twerk off the phone is probably the best chance for that specific thin part because it doesn't have any support when it's on the phone it could happen on the phone it's probably less likely um yeah but
00:28:41
again yeah it's a cheap plastic back yeah I love the design of this thing it's like a $30 yeah I'm not I dig the
00:28:48
back despite how cheap it is you get another one for $30 more dollars can we talk about the knob yes yeah we can well
00:28:55
you mean the scw you mean the thumb screw yeah we were trying to guess last time what it would do or what it was
00:29:01
turns out the answer is it's a what is it it's a accessory mounting point I think deep down we all knew it was more like this I mean look the buds that they released it is a knob
00:29:14
cuz they have so on the buds they have a really interesting design where the case is sort of like squared off and they
00:29:20
have a spinnable knob thing on the corner of the case and you control volume by controlling the case which is weird like you put the buds in your ears and then you use the like the case knob
00:29:32
to turn the volume up and down which is like cool interesting design however I often go on runs without my earbuds case because my running shorts like only have a very small pocket in them so pick the
00:29:44
right volume before you yeah that seems not you can still do it from your phone though I'm guessing right um yeah good
00:29:51
point Fair Point well that's also just why the knob on it is kind of weird what is the scenario where you're listening to Bluetooth music where your phone's
00:29:57
not close enough to press but the case is well if you went on a run without your yeah I don't know you probably can't store music on it anyway okay anyway the knob on the knob screw the
00:30:10
screw on the phone yeah the thumb screw the thumb screw got yeah um it attaches a bunch of accessories as we said there's a wallet case accessory which I
00:30:22
imagine is supposed to be because it doesn't have NFC I guess uh the cool interesting thing about the wallet
00:30:28
accessory even though it's really crap is that we found out that it has like a back plate that you mount on and then
00:30:35
the wallet is magnetic to that magnetic back plate and the back plate has a circular ring that is like basically mag
00:30:42
safe it's pretty much exactly the same yeah it snaps in a place and we tested it on a bunch of Mag safe accessories
00:30:48
and it works really well so you could if you have a MAG safe car mount you can use this in your car which is pretty
00:30:54
sweet yeah that's nice I I like the kickstand I think the kick is cool because it like only takes up a little
00:31:00
bit of space on the bottom or if you're on a plane just keep it in your backpack then I don't always have to carry around this bulky case with a kickstand but for
00:31:07
a plane I just pop it down how about that lard though all I could think of is that song do your chain hang low when like Brandon and you were walking around with the lanyard on like literally under
00:31:19
your waist swinging out your like waist level yeah there's a thick thick lanyard it's like climbing rope thick it's wild
00:31:25
it's weird I I know it looks weird but um a lot of people who travel will often attach their phone to a lanyard and put it around their neck so they don't get it stolen the problem with this is is at the absolute tightest it was still
00:31:38
probably like a foot down from marquez's like neck it felt like it was hanging so much and like swinging all over the
00:31:46
place yeah uh it has SD card expansion which is nice up to two terabytes micro SD so you can have a massive storage on
00:31:53
your phone um and that is in place I I opened phone that's the in place of a second
00:31:59
SIM card so you can have either have a second SIM card or the micro SD card oh okay that's fine that's fine oh second
00:32:05
okay so cool um and then it has a adaptive 120 HZ display which is cool for being this cheap smooth yeah it's pretty good and you know when the cmf
00:32:18
phone one by nothing has an 120 HZ display and the Basse iPhone still doesn't got them I feel like at some some point well they probably don't have
00:32:29
to I'm just say like they don't have to do anything they don't have to do anything and normal people still don't care but uh it seems like eventually
00:32:37
they would have to take the promotion name away but they're just never going to do that it's always going to be 60 htz let's be real to ourselves that's
00:32:44
really sad it is sad I'm like pour one out I like feel base iPhone users out there that's that's that's unfortunate yeah so did you get a chance to try the watch Pro
00:32:56
too not yet okay first gripe mhm how do you go from cmf watch to cmf watch Pro 2
00:33:05
I feel like it should either be the cmf watch Pro or the cmf Watch 2 it's the same price I don't know it's Pro about it the first model was a wh labeled
00:33:17
Amazon product allegedly but remember when we went on and we just searched Smartwatch and it was the exact same allegedly
00:33:28
yeah it looks a lot different than the white than the white labeled product from last year allegedly allegedly I did
00:33:34
read a uh skating a quick good article from Ben Shon at nto5 Google about this cmf watch and he's not a fan is the nicest way of putting it he loves the
00:33:45
cmf phone hates this watch Pro 2 essentially a lot of it was just like this software was terrible it looks bad
00:33:52
and that when the main thing about it is like activity tracking he said he did like four hours of hiking around and it
00:33:59
captured like 19 minutes of it and that his wife was using a pixel Watch 2 I think and that had captured all of it and had a bunch of good metrics and when you're comparing it to the pixel Watch 2
00:34:10
as the like gold standard you're not doing a good job if you're that much lower than the pixel
00:34:16
Watch 2 you're not doing a great job Devil's Advocate okay pixel Watch 2 is $279 cmf watch Pro two is about 25% of the price so it captured
00:34:29
25% of the information so fair fair there's there's that it I don't know it's yeah these watches are definitely cheap I get people want to do like activity tracking
00:34:42
and it's probably the cheapest option but if it's not even doing that that great I don't know I'm interested if we
00:34:48
get the chance to test it out there's so many things going on already that we're unpacked in July yeah why are we talking
00:34:54
about unpacked in the middle of July right now yeah in the beginning of July the beginning of July yeah so there the
00:35:02
watch is interesting in a number of ways like they have these hot swappable top plates that make it look pretty different oh that's a they both still look bad and I think one costs more
00:35:12
money right the better looking one costs money my hot take that might get me yelled at is that um cmf as a brand has
00:35:21
sort of gone for a Fisher Price on purpose kind of vibe and for the phone that's acceptable because it's kind of hip to like pull out a Fisher Price phone but like a Fisher Price watch
00:35:34
feels less hip to me this feels this does feel kind of like this is not Fisher Price this is Casio it's a
00:35:42
classic I think the cmf phone looks fantastic and I don't know if I would call it Fisher Price you wouldn't I
00:35:48
think the plastic on the back is Fisher Price s but it looks great I think that looks so it's teenage engineering and
00:35:53
that it's not Fisher Price prices fan teenage engineering is like Fisher Price there that's how you're going to get yelled at in the comments everyone will agree with me Teenage engineering is
00:36:04
Posh Fisher Price yeah the style not the quality they do kind of have this thing going on where they'll sell they'll sell
00:36:10
you a cheap base thing and then like a bunch of little expensive markup the same price as a regular device the same
00:36:16
like if oh if I get the cmf phone but I get three backs I just spent $300 you know yeah so they can they can make
00:36:23
their money back with these little upgraded things if you buy a kickstand you buy some other stuff get a lanyard that's kind of what I'm observing here
00:36:29
mhm love the phone watch to be decided TBD also the earbuds TBD yeah earbuds also TBD yeah speaking of things that start with the letter t bro
00:36:43
trivia that was a good one how we nice trivia so this question is inspired by cmf not including NFC on their phone
00:36:56
uh and we all know about nearby share hilarious Quick Share now is what it's called really
00:37:03
yeah I guess I don't know about officially that's funny yeah uh it's Google's answer to airdrop L but prior
00:37:11
to Quick Share there was nearby share and acquired to nearby share go there was a wireless data transfer protocol
00:37:18
that actually did use NFC you had to take two phones and make aiss yep I loved it what was it called I know this
00:37:26
you remember this I want NEX 4 can you tell me a phone a NEX Nexus 4 yeah good call David that
00:37:36
that was it mhm Nexus 4 I'm picturing Nexus 4 with the like squares on the back the Nexus 4 had the uh like the stars on the back like sparkly totally
00:37:47
flat oh that was the one that we bought later and it was like melting yeah wow I okay dang what was it called okay I I want to think about that one
00:37:58
answers will be at the end like usual and uh we'll be right back after this [Music]
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we've got to unpack some announcements and an event that Samsung held this week today was called Sam yeah it was actually the day that we hour ago Samsung unpacked so I I made a video uh
00:40:16
with my first impressions of all the products so the Z flip the zold the watch the watch Ultra the buzs 3 the buzs 3 Pro and the ring so if you want
00:40:28
to check out Impressions and first hands on look fir hands on and looks at any of
00:40:33
those things check out that video but the the event itself was also like we were watching it this morning and it was
00:40:40
it struck me as just having so many generic quotes and weird awkward moments and forced Applause that I don't know
00:40:46
what's happening with events anymore it just feels kind of unnecessary investors L like I feel like it turned on it had
00:40:52
their Montage in the beginning which was like this kid skateboarding and with really bad acting all around where he
00:40:58
keeps going to different types of like sports and activities and asking them to play through the translator on his flip
00:41:05
yeah every scene of them playing sports felt like the Catwoman basketball scene of just like really brutal acting and up close like you have to get really close to make it look like they're actually
00:41:16
playing the sport where neither the actors or the directors have ever played the sport exactly yeah like the
00:41:21
basketball scene was the first was like two people dribbling basketballs while like dancing and then this like upos
00:41:27
version of him like hanging on the rim and dunking a basketball or that scene in Camp Rock when the person goes on and
00:41:34
plays the the DJ set and it's really really bad and everyone goes she's really good yeah but then after that we had 25 minutes of just cruising through
00:41:45
products which I loved in 25 minutes they covered the ring both of the watches and like half of the fold and I
00:41:52
was like oh we're cruising this is going to be a short short event and then it was an hour and 15 minutes and then the
00:41:58
Gemini comes up and just all the air gets sucked out of the room and I just basically fell asleep so yeah they had
00:42:04
to do that Galaxy AI section they showed us the new section at the top of the settings with all the different features
00:42:09
which had some useful stuff like um in Samsung Notes you can draw a bunch of stuff and then it'll turn it into real
00:42:16
drawings or real art it'll summarize stuff in the browser if you use Samsung's browser things like that I
00:42:23
like the generative fill around your image if you change the horizon line you get more around what you shot and it
00:42:29
seemed to work pretty well but yeah they just kind of have to do the Apple thing which is we put all of the AI in one
00:42:35
place so you know where to find it and it's at the top and you don't forget that it exists we're an AI company we swear I'm I'm going to look this up now
00:42:43
to make sure that it I'm right but in that section they talked about Circle to search and I swear in the background
00:42:49
they had someone using an S Pen on the front side of a fold and I haven't seen anything about that but we talked about
00:42:55
this last week so we did you guys can keep talking about Gemini and let me try and find this in the Stream pack in the Stream but yeah then we we got Gemini so
00:43:08
was the ring also before Gemini like all the stuff yes the ring and the watch and like half of the fold and then that's
00:43:14
how they got into Gemini so I guess we can go through each of the products one by one and just give our reactions to those cuz I've got I got hands on time
00:43:20
you've seen the the specs and the announcements so phones we'll just start with that okay zold 6 Z flip 6 very much
00:43:28
similar looking to the last year of the fold five and flip five they are both $100 more expensive though so it's
00:43:35
$10.99 for the flip and $18.99 for the fold and with that you get a Snapdragon 8 gen 3 you get a better cooling bigger Vapor chamber uh you get a new Ultra
00:43:47
wide camera and uh I think it's it's a slightly larger battery in the flip as well so you go from 3700 to 4,000 Mah
00:43:53
hours and you get basically all the Baseline like 12 gigs of RAM and the cameras from the s24 so basically s24
00:44:00
interior and uh yeah squared off sides slightly different camera housing like slight design changes a little bit of an update to the hinge apparently the coating on the folding screen is is
00:44:13
slightly different it's like a little bit thicker which allow them or it's more durable which allow them to remove some layers I don't know how that's
00:44:19
going to work over time but yeah basically they look very similar to last year's phones aesthetically anyway yeah any thought I kind of think that at this point the razor is a lot cooler than the
00:44:32
flip in my professional opinion is this aesthetically or in like overall um both
00:44:37
because the flip still isn't like a full full screen display true it's like kind
00:44:43
of got that weird like cut out it I didn't notice it as much until they like had the it up on the screen and then a
00:44:50
bunch of screens behind what it all could do and it looks like the folder as like a Mac icon yeah yeah it does yeah I
00:44:56
don't know I like that the Razer the new razor especially is like full screen and
00:45:02
uh the new Razer also has this really cool feature where if you this is just silly but if you open it halfway it
00:45:08
opens up the camera and it enables like this camcorder mode yeah and then you can like zoom in and out by moving
00:45:15
Samsung did exactly the same thing did they really I think so yeah I might have to double check that but I think that
00:45:21
they also did that that's hilarious yeah okay well anyway I think that aaser is cooler than the flip cuz the flip kind
00:45:27
of just feels at this point like it's the absolute default version of a clamshell foldable phone that's probably their goal yeah I mean every Samsung phone at this point is the most boring
00:45:40
default safest version of an Android phone in any given form factor mhm same with the fold like the OnePlus open is a
00:45:47
cooler phone but the I guess the Razer is interesting because it costs less yeah like the razor plus I think is
00:45:53
1,000 and then the razor is 650 yeah so this is now 00 yeah so that's interesting it is Samsung and you know
00:46:00
the build quality is really good and everything about it is good it's just kind of boring yeah can I interrupt real
00:46:06
quick mhm I found the part I was talking about does this I can't tell what phone this is but does that not look like
00:46:12
using an Spen on the front of a galaxy fold it does to me looks like it's pretty narrow I saw nothing about it and they didn't say anything about it no this was just in the background of when they were starting to talk about Circle
00:46:23
to search interesting um I can't tell I haven't we'll have to test it it would be awesome if they added this because we just talked about this last week about how nice this would be yeah but that might be can you use the S Pen on the
00:46:36
flip interior screen I don't I think so don't think so is that a s24 Ultra it's cropped in so weird I can't totally tell and it's like with a person with gloves on so they're covering over I guess
00:46:50
we'll test it we'll test it and see we'll find that out yeah so what um what are the interesting updates this year to
00:46:57
the foldables that's basically it I mean so the the flip has that battery bump I
00:47:03
think is probably the most yeah substantial Hardware change to 5,000 37 to 4,000 37 to 4,000 and obviously the
00:47:10
new chip and like the npu which does all the AI stuff and then the fold it's like
00:47:15
just yeah a lot of subtle improvements with that one but there are new AI Stu the features is most of the new stuff so
00:47:23
yeah if you plan on using summarization or it write emails for you or sketch things for you it can do all the stuff now and it's all at the top and you can
00:47:34
just play with that settings toolbox the um video like Creator segment they did for the like sketching and AI image generating thing was painful it was you
00:47:46
missed this so I'm going to explain it to you cuz you are going you going to hate this oh no it's a Creator who I'm
00:47:53
not exactly sure who he was is basically Park out on this like mountain side in the dark looking at the Milky Way galaxy and like the stars and so he's using that as um inspiration for what he's
00:48:05
going to draw so he takes a photo of the stars and he draws a constellation and then that constellation kind of looks like the Eiffel Tower so then he decides to enter in the Eiffel Tower into a like
00:48:18
AI image generation studio and creates like an AI image of the Eiffel Tower and that was the inspiration from the Beautiful Way galaxy in the dark beautiful Outdoors what wa so he never
00:48:31
drew anything no he did though later cut himself out with AI and drag a photo of
00:48:37
himself into the fake AI image eiel Tower wow this pretty swe be so popular everyone's going to use this it's not a Samsung event without like a pretty brutal Creator getting like thrown to
00:48:54
the dogs in the middle of the event lot of money so you can't really feel that sorry for them that other Creator too
00:49:00
that they had there Sydney Sweeney um who's that sorry who is she again she's an actress right extremely popular
00:49:07
actress right now she's created some things what's she in she was on hot ones she Euphoria yeah hot ones is Euphoria still happening either way she's in a lot of
00:49:20
different things she's extremely popular image of her or something and then we're like What do you think and
00:49:25
she was like neat that's so cool on nice yeah that happened as well she was in Madam web weird event man I haven't seen it what was the boardroom meeting like
00:49:37
when they decided we're going to have her sit in the front row and then we're just going to cut to a camera reaction of her going cool and then the crowd's
00:49:45
going to clap it was no more than 20 seconds I feel like I really hope they paid her a lot of money um can I say one
00:49:52
AI thing that I did like okay was and this is like so simple but it was like instant slow-mo on videos where if you take a video and you're watching it back you just hold the screen and it'll
00:50:05
slow-mo where you're holding the screen cuz right now the current slow-mo mode on everything is so annoying when it
00:50:10
like decides where the slow-mo wants to be itself most of the time gives it way too much time so you're trying to do
00:50:17
something like a golf form check and it will start slow mooing before you make any movement for like 20 seconds wait I
00:50:24
think you might have that feature on your phone really cuz I think I already have that feature let's go yeah an
00:50:29
article instant slow-mo is one of my favorite Galaxy s24 features it's I remember when this came out on the s24
00:50:36
and I think some people were testing it and it kind of makes weird like artifact
00:50:41
yeah that's from January it's adding frames and it's making up frames so I remember seeing some stuff about there
00:50:47
being weird artifacting like morphing and some instances so I guess that's the issue is it's not doing the slow-mo
00:50:54
video it's doing it a regular video yeah that's annoying I wish just it I took the high frame rate video and then I got to do that later cuz dragging the little things is so annoying every time yeah
00:51:05
okay what other AI features can we dunk on honestly that's that's kind of most of the AI stuff I mean Circle search is
00:51:12
the one that by far most people use the best one and it's the best one and it's still really good yeah so there's like
00:51:18
translation stuff and how you can use it with the flip screen so like you can see it on one side and they can see it on
00:51:23
the other side yeah cool one way translate what's that you're just like EES dropping on people speaking other language basically nice sweet it's pretty cool pretty cool right Marquez is
00:51:36
the fold still narrow the fold outside screen is about 2 mm wider than before it is definitely still narrow I thought they said it was taller I'm also after the I think all of the bezels are
00:51:49
smaller and so yeah probably is a tiny bit taller but I think they told me like oh yeah 2 mm wider like we're trying to
00:51:55
make it more usable but I typed on it it's it's very much still an narrow screen okay yeah so yeah that's the
00:52:01
phones nice what do you want to do watches I'm way more interested in the watches I've heard okay so watch s watch
00:52:08
s Ultra both come out or get announced watch seven is is looking very similar it's got the thin bezels it's still circular display it's still got two sizes and all that watch 7 Ultra is very
00:52:21
much a onetoone recreation of the same place in Apple's ecosystem that the watch Ultra lives same name actually watch Ultra uh it's $650 but for that
00:52:34
here's what you get the same 1.5 in size screen but uh it's sapphire crystal as the bigger one as the 47 m 44 44 the bigger one yeah are you sure it's not 47
00:52:46
yeah it's 44 yeah uh it is water resistant to 100 m it is made of titanium and it's got this much bigger body behind that circular face so we've
00:52:58
talked about this in the Pod before it's like a circular watch face and underneath it is this like a kind of a
00:53:03
squirkle type shape with a larger battery I think it's a bummer that the screen size of the ultra is the same as
00:53:09
the 44 I would like a bigger screen it's not biggest yeah yeah yeah would have been nice it's still a circle uh you
00:53:16
also get dual frequency GPS which I think is also in the new watch 7 and you also get this big orange action button I
00:53:24
mean quick button quick button is what it's called it's not an action button it thing but when you press it it says select an action so I'm s to quick yeah
00:53:36
I thought that was a knob dial and it's just a button it really makes it look like it's a dial and I'm a little it's kind of like nled I guess like a dial would be but it's a it's just a button
00:53:46
and if you hold that button you can also get this like loud siren like an 85 DB siren when we were shooting hands on
00:53:52
people kept pressing it and activating the siren every couple seconds which was really great thanks guys keep doing that
00:53:58
that's awesome um yeah it's it's like a $650 watch that looks and feels like it's matching up head-to-head in the Samsung ecosystem the same way this Ultra watch does in Apple's ecosystem
00:54:10
except you can only use it with a Samsung phone all right sorry to interrupt future Andrew here um we
00:54:17
mentioned and are going to keep mentioning how the Samsung watch and ring only work with Samsung phones it's
00:54:23
only Thursday a bunch of people just got their review units and there's been a lot of conflicting stuff where the
00:54:28
reviewers guides all say only available on Samsung phones and people are testing it and it seems like they work on some
00:54:36
of Android phones but you're missing a bunch of features so either way it seems like the sentiment is still kind of true
00:54:41
of there's some limits here um so we're going to keep that stuff in but just know it seems like it does work with
00:54:47
some phones we will be testing it more everyone will be testing it more but we're not 100% sure what is and is not
00:54:55
available between these accessories and other Android phones okay back to the show that's rough why because a lot of Android what Google we
00:55:08
Android Weare what why am I used to be Android Weare yeah a lot of we OS watches you can use with any Android
00:55:15
phone it's also Android Wear perpetually in my head although you know the pixel watch is only on pixels right um or can
00:55:23
you use the pixel watch with any Android phone I thought you wait sorry any Android pixel watch works with any Android yeah so like it's kind of rough
00:55:30
oh this only works with I just missed saying sorry that is rough it only works with Galaxy phones stupid I agree glad I
00:55:37
have a Galaxy phone cuz I think this is sick yeah now they same boys now Samsung should get the same amount of scrutiny
00:55:42
that Apple gets for they should that's stupid Samsung you should feel ashamed you've got all the stuff in the he the
00:55:48
Samsung Health app then just like make the Samsung Health app the app that you connect to watch through yeah you can
00:55:53
just put that on an Android phone I've had it on there accidentally before because I just transferred from a
00:55:59
Samsung phone to a pixel phone and it was there yeah I don't know 48h hour battery life in exercise power saving
00:56:05
mode and 100h hour battery life in power saving mode can I I found something on their website that I thought was interesting here sure okay so we were trying to figure out what exercise power
00:56:16
saving mode means and we thought it just meant normal use of like exercising but
00:56:22
on the Samsung website and David and I looked at this it's hilarious because this there are so many asterisks like an a wild
00:56:31
amount but one of them says in normal battery mode when power saving mode or exercise power saving mode is off battery life is up to 60 hours with always on display enabled and up to 80
00:56:42
hours with always on display disabled so I still don't know what exercise power saving mode means I'm assuming it's when
00:56:49
you're in an exercise activity it turns on some sort of power saving mode to not do other background apps and only focus
00:56:55
on I think it's l I think it's less samples so in a regular exercise mode it's sampling all the time and updating
00:57:01
like every one or two seconds and an exercise power saving mode maybe you're doing an ultramarathon or something you
00:57:07
don't need every two seconds to be measured it spreads out the measurements and samples way less so it's a
00:57:13
equivalent power saving mode for exercising but the cool thing here is if you are just using this as a watch and you know through two to three days of no different activities 60 hours of battery
00:57:25
life with always display on and then if it's off so you're just doing raised to wake 80 hours that's pretty good that
00:57:31
seems like great numbers that they just seem to not talk about at all that's pretty much equivalent to the Apple
00:57:37
watch I would say from my experience 60 hours being let's say 2 and a half days I think that's what I'd get out of my
00:57:43
Apple watch Ultra if I just use it like a regular watch with always you're saying 60 hours is what they say and you
00:57:49
get closer to 2 and 1/ half days not no 60 hours oh yeah I guess that is 2 and a half days yeah it's about what I'm
00:57:54
getting so but I've been using raised to weake so 3 days essentially with 80 hours that would be great yeah that
00:58:00
seems like solid battery life though I'm oh my other question is so the watch band connection point on this is looks different from the regular Galaxy
00:58:12
watches which are used to be or still are in the just regular watch 7 essentially the uh metal piece that
00:58:20
contracts in inwards goes in and then has two pins yeah this looks like almost more similar to the Apple watch where it slides in um if you look at the photos of
00:58:32
it my question well first of all that sucks that you can't use the bands because I love all these bands even
00:58:38
though they are pretty much one to one ripoffs of the Apple watch bands because I love the Apple watch
00:58:44
bands I know Marquez has answered to this already what are the chances you think you can slide an Apple watch band
00:58:50
into this galaxy watch Ultra it's probably not the same SI see how it goes it looks like it's a similar it's very
00:58:56
simar it looks extremely similar but I bet you they're like slightly different sizes I agree yeah but I'm holding out
00:59:03
optimism for you want you're trying to use an Apple watch band with the Galaxy watch I want the trail band from the
00:59:09
Apple watch which there is a trail band for the Galaxy watch Ultra but it is more similar to the Alpine Loop from the
00:59:16
Apple watch ultra um literally same name different band um which I also think is
00:59:21
cool but I love all the Apple watch Ultra bands like that's true for musical bands too similar but same name
00:59:28
different band yeah sorry Andrew I would say hold out hope for clones of the Apple watch Amazon bands baby yeah right
00:59:40
that's this is a year and a half old and was $8 and it came with two and I'm only it looks brand new it's cuz it's green
00:59:47
so yeah it's only can morph into the more nasty version of it I have a question is there anything between the
00:59:54
two watches that differentiate Ates the ultra other than just pressing the button the battery the battery the battery is a lot bigger okay that's it oh yeah no there's a bunch it's the 100
01:00:04
meter water resistance versus normal ip68 it's titanium it's got the bigger battery and bigger chassis obviously um button dual frequency is all them it's
01:00:15
on both okay um yeah so it's it's a couple things and the bands only work with that one like they're literally different bands that won't work with each other right I'm very interested I
01:00:25
want this 100% Samsung can you send us a couple extra of these please it's weird
01:00:30
that they did different bands it is weird that they did that's odd um but I think this looks so sick I like my
01:00:38
Garmin but I'd be super interested in using this and um I think I'm okay with that I want this what color do you want Adam Trail band in the white color I already have it picked up in white color
01:00:49
thank you oh the trail band's the white color I think I like um Titanium I like titanium Sil cuz I
01:00:56
like only the orange on the button versus thee cuz when you do titanium gray you get the orange on all the
01:01:02
notches yeah that's what I want that looks good when you have the orange band I think the other one would look better
01:01:07
if I changed the band out to other things but I want titanium silver with orange Trail bands fair I wonder if I
01:01:13
will ever wear a smartwatch again I get stuck in this situation because Garmin the thing that I like about it is that
01:01:20
it's crossplatform yeah you get every notification on yeah but this keeps getting more specific
01:01:26
like now it's only on Galaxy devices not even just Android devices that's messed up welcome to the Galaxy my friend let's
01:01:33
do it let's join the ecosystem Adam just you and me baby you're already Dex every day yeah right true dexon daily speaking
01:01:40
of the next thing if I was going to do this might as well try the buds Pro 3 yeah the industrial airpods pro pro the buds are redesigned and I think they
01:01:52
look really good to be honest even though they have that big stem they have like a like a triangular stem instead of
01:01:57
a circular one and then the blade lights on the pros look kind of cool not that I need lights I don't understand indicator
01:02:03
lights on earbuds yeah we talked about this last time you can't see it only a few are you a f you look in the mirror
01:02:09
wait one thing they told me it was maybe useful for finding them when you lose them you can light them up find them in the dark yeah in the pure dark yeah it's
01:02:16
not only when you're already half asleep you're like where my earbud do you know if it if it in um active noise
01:02:23
cancelling was like glowed red so then maybe less people would try and talk to you when you have them in I feel like
01:02:29
that would be fantastic for all the people who are like I just wear earpod like airpods so nobody talks to or
01:02:34
strangers would come up to you and be like hey your earbuds are about to die by the way what's going on my yeah
01:02:43
you know what's interesting about the buds 3 versus the bud 3 Pro is they both have a and C yeah but only the pro has
01:02:51
uh ambient mode and usually it's the other way around really maybe that's true and the pros also have adaptive ANC which is if it picks up on
01:03:04
like you're having a conversation it will lower the noise cancellation or if there's some siren you need to hear it can block that out so it's a little bit
01:03:11
smarter than just pure regular ANC the regular ones don't have it if I'm setting off the siren on my Galaxy watch
01:03:17
Ultra you'll be able to hear me even if you havec on I mean if I'm biking down the street I don't really want my my
01:03:23
music to go away so I can hear the ambulance that's going to pierce my ears wait no yes you do so you don't get hit
01:03:28
by the ambulance yes that's the exact reason let be real the an is not I mean the that yeah the an is not that good
01:03:35
that I'm just not going to hear the ambulance that's probably I'm going to hear the ambulance I feel like you described the one scenario on which you
01:03:41
need that exact the middle of I don't want to the I want to hear the guy honking at me go around
01:03:49
me but yeah that's the that's the buds and then we we finally got details on the ring Galaxy Ring
01:03:56
oh yeah that's cool too yeah oh and they're 179 and 249 so like the same as apples prices again all right yeah but
01:04:02
yeah so the ring okay so there is no ring in everybody's ecosystem but they added a ring to theirs and it will have
01:04:08
all the features you'd expect from a smart ring it's got a couple sensors it measures your heart rate it has a skin temperature sensor and it will do the
01:04:15
same feeding back to your smartphone and like feeding into the information for your energy score in the health app so
01:04:22
you've got an energy score the same that the watch would give you I just want to point outar was really a Trailblazer got it nice on uh on this
01:04:30
feature their body battery thing they've had for a long time everyone is copying it now yeah does whoop do that
01:04:37
too they definitely some not called body battery but yeah it's just recovery scor recovery scores yeah scores are fun I
01:04:44
like that the eight sleep gives me a number every day I'm trying to like hit a high score kind of yeah so yeah I I'm
01:04:49
into it but yeah there's three colors black silver gold um it's a little bit concave so that it's less likely to
01:04:55
scratch if you like knock it against something well there's two there's oh no I'm thinking sorry I'm thinking of the
01:05:01
AA ring the Ora ring has two models that look different right yeah and so the or ring when you bring that up has a $6 a
01:05:07
month subscription this one has no subscription so it's $3.99 no subscription but it's $100 more but it's
01:05:12
$100 more than the Bas or ring I'm so interested in this so there you go I I'm going to try it I'm going to test it I'm
01:05:18
very curious I mean I use a Samsung phone anyway so I think you also need a Samsung phone to use this ring just I
01:05:25
yeah it doesn't make sense if you put Samsung Health on just let it they're trying to keep people in the ecosystem
01:05:31
yeah it makes sense I just hate it like we're getting the ecosystem we wanted so bad and they're doing it exactly like
01:05:38
the ecosystem we all hate so much like Apple's getting so much like criticism and scrutiny and then all the other
01:05:44
companies are like we're going to do it anyway I mean we should have all seen this coming I guess but like I would
01:05:50
take it as a warning sign yeah if I was working out for I get it well that's why the companies are doing it cuz it's
01:05:56
working out for Apple that's true and they haven't actually gotten in real trouble for it yet I just wish I can take the best Samsung features or
01:06:03
products that I want and use it with any Android phone which I feel like you used to be able to do all the time you 201
01:06:10
yeah yeah that would be 2012 yeah good times the Mind calendar and everything the ring to me oh sorry you just answered your phone
01:06:21
so I was no I'm I'm converting it into a someone randomly called me and I'm I'm answering it with Bixby oh cool well why
01:06:29
you do that rings I totally get why a lot of people like them I just feel like if you're like Adam when you're going to go lift are you going to wear the ring when you're lifting yeah I do and it has
01:06:42
marks and scratches all over it oh that feels so uncomfortable it is uncomfortable especially like doing
01:06:47
pull-ups and stuff like that I get like pull-ups yeah yeah terrible blisters but eventually you uh you just get used to
01:06:54
it only you had like a wrist to put something on yes you you're a watch guy I'm a regular watch guy like I said I get the ring I don't think I could ever use it because of climbing or uh like
01:07:05
lifting I don't like that and also I feel like lifting is fine climbing is a specific use case you would have to take
01:07:11
it off you know what's funny I always see I I never notice rings on people people's fingers but I'm always afraid
01:07:18
to wear one because I think you have to be like a ring guy to wear a ring you know it's I us I don't think you have to I think they're way more popular now it
01:07:29
does take a minute to get used to my wedding ring took me a very long time to get used to I used to go home and just take it off immediately because I just
01:07:35
was not used and then I that's when I started wearing a smartwatch so having a ring and a watch all of a sudden made my
01:07:40
hand feel like heavier and I didn't like it my eight sleep already gives me all this information and helps me sleep
01:07:46
better but not while you run a workout yeah that's yeah do you play sports with a ring on play like you climb you can't
01:07:52
climb with a ring no I take that off me I used to not even play video games with R you can't well you can throw with it I
01:07:59
guess I don't know I wear my ring when I'm playing disc golf but it's on my left hand so it doesn't matter if I was catching if I was
01:08:05
golfing no when I when I did play little ultimate after I was married I used like a silicone ring instead which isn't as
01:08:11
big of a issue and smart rings are way thicker than a regular like w band yeah that's what I'm thinking like this is
01:08:17
supposed to be a fitness tracker and like a health tracker but I don't want to wear it while I'm doing any of the fitness things that I'm that's yeah
01:08:23
that's my my concern yeah H okay well it has a 7-Day battery life so I can track sleeping and track all kinds of other
01:08:29
things you're supposed to be able to swim with it yep 100 meters again so you can go real deep you can go scuba diving
01:08:36
with it on if you wanted to so that's cool uh it's yeah $3.99 that's out there that's kind of it it has a cool Case by the way if you put it on the case it's got this like pin system for charging and then it like lights up a ring around
01:08:48
the ring showing how much battery you have which is kind of neat and we have a shot of that in the video if you want to see what that looks like that is really
01:08:54
cool I was wondering what that case was yeah it's charging case clear cases are back you don't need a charging case for
01:09:01
for it you don't no the other ones just have like a little stand that you just plop it onto oh oh but don't you want to
01:09:06
charge on the go well yeah now this is what that's for yeah yeah I like that I think last thing is it it starts at 3.99
01:09:14
did we say that already did we did say that already that seems kind of expensive to me no subscription how much
01:09:19
is your superum ring um wait it's called ult no that's the trash can Ultra human
01:09:25
no that's the email app yeah email app is super human simple human is the trash can glad we got that out of the way you're Ultra human you're Ultra human
01:09:31
it's $299 no subscription you're Ultra oh wow that's pretty good so the price of the aura with let me just fact check
01:09:37
that but yeah is there anything that your ring does or doesn't do that's like very different from the Samsung can connect to other Android phon connect to
01:09:44
other phones that's probably the main thing lowkey yeah that's what I was thinking about when I was when we were going over all this it's just I can
01:09:49
still connect to whatever I want but it seems like the is it good the Galaxy Ring yeah it's pretty good the Galaxy
01:09:54
Ring does more active uh what's the word noise cancellation no sensing sensoring
01:10:01
I guess like if I want to do a workout I have to go into yeah thank you if I want to I have to go into the app and start
01:10:06
workout the Galaxy Ring will automatically do that which workout detection I actually think that's huge
01:10:12
cuz I hated on my whoop band when I wor for a while that you had to I had to go get my phone start the workout cuz
01:10:18
there's no Auto detection on things and that's a pain in the neck when you want to just like put your phone away and go
01:10:24
do something so the Ultra human ring is 349 so it's right in the middle oh okay interesting up to six days of battery life pretty similar so yeah I feel like a lot of these are comparable I'm going
01:10:36
to jump into the Rings testing market so if anyone has any other things I should look out for when testing them feel free
01:10:42
to leave a comment let me know if you use an Ora ring let me know what you like about it so when I test this I know what to look for yeah uh anyway yeah I
01:10:49
know my ring size now so that's cool uh I think that's it oh it's the Samsung okay yeah I'll I'll grab it in a second I'll be in there in a minute and a half quick
01:11:00
update for podcast listeners Marquez got a call in the middle of the podcast that the Samsung devices were delivered so we
01:11:07
will be unboxing them first impressions on the Pod and we almost didn't because he just put it to like call screening he
01:11:14
tried to answer with imagine we don't get the Samsung products cuz Bixby answered
01:11:22
something what are those hey guys what are those oh got a bunch of boxes here oh wow Samsung Claus has arrived uh yeah so you'll never believe you just stopped by the phone call that I kept dismissing
01:11:34
was actually a Samsung uh so these are all the devices we just talked about this is the watch Ultra with the orange band is that the one that you're interested in that's one he wanted but he wanted the well no there's the one
01:11:45
Adam wanted I think sort of we got the flip six and the fold six which I believe that would be the silver and the blue this new little super minimal box
01:11:53
yeah which I'm kind of into actually art style cool design and Buzz 3 buzs 3 pro
01:12:00
light box for the buzz 3 dark box for the buzz 3 Pro cuz Pro is dark classic and the Galaxy ring this better be the matte black one this better be the matte black it say on the top it's black on
01:12:12
the front so I'm assuming on the front yeah I think the ring on the front would represent the color okay I hope so yeah so the Galaxy Ring cool so we have so
01:12:20
yeah we just finished talking about them now you can leave a comment about which ones you'd want to see review of first
01:12:25
I'm just going to put it out there the ring got the most comments the ring got the most uh interest in general I've
01:12:32
seen I think we should do the ring first so it's probably going to be the first thing I unbox and test yeah but let us know if you're also interested in what
01:12:39
else are you you saving the unboxing experience for video when Andrew asks that what he
01:12:45
means is can I take it out the box right now is that cool yeah go ahead the watch really see can I see the buds can I do
01:12:53
the ring uh both both okay there you go and you want to unbox a ring I don't think we've ever unboxed something on the podcast before all at the same time at the same time oh yeah hold on I'll wait I'll wait sorry I did one pull tab
01:13:05
we can pull together we can pull through this together pull through I just have to say this says don't accept a seal is
01:13:11
broken this definitely looks like it's got one of the double seals I don't know it's chaotic I'm opening the phone as
01:13:17
well is this not double sealed like they definitely opened it and then reut a seal on seems like typical review unit
01:13:24
yeah okay Marquez has the fold I have the fold out the box it is titanium this is so much like thatle watch Ultra where it's got this box for the the watch and
01:13:37
the band inside and it's a and it's a white box inside the black box with white AR with The Black Arrow price is
01:13:43
like on the box itself which is kind of weird oh this can I get everybody to be silent for 3 seconds yeah
01:13:55
pretty satisfying considering it's the like paper screen cover which have not been as whoa this is all bent on the
01:14:01
inside H this looks like some stuff oh my God what's wrong with this box oh my God he okay pretty durable pretty
01:14:13
durable this is why Marquez does it we do it live wait what's oh this is not wait this is not the Apple watch oh they
01:14:20
glow you see that see they glow simultaneous on boxing experience oh I got you so this is the ring case closing ready SL light plastic one light plastic
01:14:34
no this this package is incredible the way the the lights of the device integrate with the
01:14:39
packaging see the ring um wait Ken confirm now though the question before this definitely does not fit with an
01:14:45
Apple Watch because it doesn't slide it snaps as the Apple watch Ultra these feel really light which is good I mean bad I mean no
01:14:56
I think it's good they feel kind of cheap well that's the thing about certain wearable tech is you want it to
01:15:02
be light because you're wearing it but it feels cheap because it's light bad like a VR headset good bad yeah
01:15:08
headphones good like you know how Apple makes headphones that are heavier than everyone else's they feel really premium
01:15:14
but they're also so heavy good and they make a VR headset that's heavier than everyone else's so it feels really
01:15:19
premium but it's also so heavy that that good so now now yeah I love I love this
01:15:26
so we just unbox everything except this next trivia question oh well played damn I'm good all right so quick update on the score by the way mhm we're
01:15:37
all tied at 13 oh shoot wow crazy that seems really unlucky it yeah well it's going to change this this episode I hope
01:15:44
so I if you guys get points so this next trivia question is an audio round I sent
01:15:50
Ellis an audio clip that he is going to play and the question will come immediately aile is it in 16 khz today
01:15:57
our phones aren't just music players or web browsers they're portals to the most important places people and passions in
01:16:03
our lives and yet they have the same screens they had 10 years ago boxed in on all sides until now the isn't just a new smartphone but a new kind of
01:16:16
smartphone it marks a new era in smartphone design the perfect balance of Form and Function Art and Science design
01:16:23
and technology and and it's my pleasure to introduce an innovation that will change the way you see your smartphone
01:16:30
and everything on it the infinity display what phone was this he said it's the I love when it's bleeping sound rounds CU it just sounds like they're cursing instead there's so many options
01:16:45
for this it's not the me uh the xiaomi one because that would have been in Chinese no this is this is this is infinite display Infinity display
01:16:58
Infinity display I'm just trying to fure was the first phone to have that well there's multiple answers to that well
01:17:04
okay I'll give you a little hint here most the the first Samsung phone to have that there's also still multiple answers
01:17:10
I have an answer that will probably be wrong but at least I got the first one right well we'll think about this one and we'll be back after the break
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01:21:22
right I want to talk about Spotify comments to podcasts and activity Pub okay activity Pub is not part of this I wondering I am going to make it part of it okay uh so there's an update to
01:21:36
Spotify recently where they're now allowing uh comments on podcasts the way that they're implementing this is very interesting effectively listeners can leave comments on podcast but every
01:21:49
single comment is held for review so you only show the comments that you want to
01:21:55
show which seems very authoritarian like for waveform we would choose yeah imagine if Yelp was like that you only put the nice but that's
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this food sucked that's already kind of a weird thing about this is like you're probably only going to publish the
01:22:11
positive comments which is strange um and then people can leave comments on the podcast itself which to me just is a
01:22:19
review but okay yeah it's what Apple podcast has done that forever you leave a comment on the podcast you you rate
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and it has a comment yeah but that's a review yeah yeah yeah yeah that's yeah I'm agreeing calling it something
01:22:30
different there's also other podcasts that are like on substack or something where you can do comments in there and
01:22:35
it turns into a kind of discussion type of area so I guess that's kind of what they're going for I guess yeah it's just
01:22:41
it's weird that every single comment is vetted but you know um they previously had a poll and Q&A option on podcast in
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Spotify that apparently got a decent amount of traction so now they're allowing for comments um
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and in my opinion this is just like another way for them to try to keep people in the Spotify podcasting
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ecosystem similarly to the other day when we talked about Apple music or apple podcasts allowing for
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subscriptions within Apple podcasts this goes against everything that podcasts were made for the the uh phrase get get it wherever you get your podcasts is a
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very powerful phrase because podcasts based on RS can just go through the system mhm um
01:23:29
and I I'm consistently more frustrated at every platform that tries to make unique features in their ecosystem that keeps people in their ecosystem when podcasts as a idea are made to be gotten
01:23:42
anywhere so this one feels like not as like the apple one was like you get bonus content for paying throughout that this is just like it the people on this platform are being able to comment yeah
01:23:55
and stuff it's just that if you had activity Pub right okay so activity Pub podcasts can already go through activity Pub and so if you have a platform that can accept uh these
01:24:09
Federated content pieces of content you could just comment on a podcast through activity Pub and then you would be able
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to see those comments everywhere so you don't need to just be locked into the Spotify platform to see the Spotify
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comments for a podcast m you'd be able to see everyone's comments for the podcast but she you said those magical
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words they're locked in if I'm Spotify I want people locked in yeah if you have most of the people in the ecosystem because when we talk about standards organizations Apple usually wants to
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lock people in as well but they embraced matter because nobody has Apple homekit devices because they don't have that
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many homekit devices and there's way more Google assistants and Amazon Echo devices out there so it's easier for to
01:24:54
do that anyway I'm just saying that uh considering podcasts were originally made to be got gotten anywhere it's just very frustrating to see like more and more platforms like trying to make more
01:25:07
features that are exclusive to platform I agree with you that that's not a huge deal this Cas um I'm much more angry at
01:25:14
Apple for this but it would be cool podcasting because it's made available anywhere also makes it really hard for
01:25:21
us to tell like downloads and listens and even like see reviews before reviews were mostly only on Apple podcast then
01:25:28
Spotify added a star system with no comments and then now there are comments but that's still annoying that they're on two like yeah our podcast could be a three star on Spotify and a five star on
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Apple podcast should that all be Federated yes it would be great ratings all of the comments yeah because it's
01:25:44
just everyone in the world like why is there a difference between the people on One platform and another platform like
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if there's an app on the Google Play Store and an app on the Apple App Store and they have different ratings it's like you can do the math yourself to I
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guess to get the average rating between them with that one It's tricky because they might genuinely be a different experience fair enough yeah but if it's
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the same podcast in multiple places then yeah ex wait Apple people hear our podcast differently than Android people
01:26:09
oh the messaging oh oh we were not supposed to say out loud cut that Adam cut that
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wait the subtle messaging I don't know what just happened but yeah no I kind of agree
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David because I feel like content should be the universal thing yeah like comments qlls everyone should be a to
01:26:28
that I like the idea of everyone competing on features not content exactly so like threads for example
01:26:34
under desktop mode just put the like tweet deck kind of style thing that's cool but like eventually they'll
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eventually be Federated or whatever and I can choose which one I want the analogy is when the Twitter API was open
01:26:45
and we had all the different Twitter apps and you downloaded a different Twitter app because it had different features MH like that should be the
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content should be the UN unversal thing and then the features around the content should be your thing that you compete on
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hypothetical should YouTube be included in this I think so because our podcast on YouTube has hundreds of comments every week uhuh and lots of ratings on every episode yeah it's just it's not a
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I mean if we put the same video everywhere it's the same content yeah no I 100% agree because like right now you
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can put a video on Twitter or whatever and it's like you're G to get comments so why don't why isn't there just a comment section for everything shareholder value that's actually the
01:27:32
real answer I know we all know that's the answer think it's yeah it would be great it's like imagine you have a Blog
01:27:39
and nobody goes to very few people go to your blog on your website to comment on your website's blog but you publish the
01:27:48
blog on Twitter and tons of people talk about it why isn't why aren't the comment sections the same on Twitter or
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threads than they are in your blog like they could all be the same comment section do you remember Google
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Plus every time we talk about activity Pub Mar like a golden look in his eye where he's like remembering the goog plus days back in my day every website had a plus one button in the corner and
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that was just across the whole internet you could be the first one to plus one an article you could be the 5,000th
01:28:19
person to plus one something and everything had some sort of com system yeah at least activity Pub is
01:28:25
standardized by the worldwide Web Consortium and not Google fair I wouldn't want a company to be the one
01:28:31
that's running like all comment sections around the entire internet especially because it was dead two years later so
01:28:37
if we could hypo Google if we could hypothetically upload this podcast video everywhere like Marquez was suggesting would the features that bring us to YouTube be
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monetization on YouTube discoverability numer Uno yeah how do you say that in German uh is that's a total guess yeah
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but what's number I think it's n numer just erase all the vowels pretty much all the Germans are going to yell at you I'm German I'm 50% German bow AE I O U sometimes
01:29:17
why why sometimes sometimes it's it's most of the time Claire and I just had this
01:29:24
discussion though it's AE i o u n pretty much all of the time why what is the Y in sync a vowel how often is why why is more often a vowel no you don't know what you're talking about is a y at the
01:29:37
end a vowel yeah I think what you're saying is yucky damn one one example he had
01:29:47
two Yeah Lil John was right all along that's boy yeah it is boy I didn't mean that I didn't mean that that's my that's my age demographic too it is Numa by the
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way right numer num I'm going to get canceled for vowels that's how I'm leaving this
01:30:04
podcast is vowels numer America we need to end this podcast right now it's a great time to doers let's do trivia get in the
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fediverse I got to start testing these devices too here's your thank you very much all right question number one one
01:30:25
before what what do they call it quick share after nearby share they called it quick share Quick Share okay there was quick share and before that there was nearby share and before that it used
01:30:39
NFC what was Google's NFC wireless data transfer protocol called for anyone in the audience uh uh I read on the internet that NFC has a
01:30:57
standard distance limitation of 4 cm and I could not find a single Citation for that fact despite Googling and Googling and Googling so if you're an engineer and you happen to know where I can find
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the official Citation for 4 cm being the maximum distance for NFC communication podcast at MKBHD
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[Music] docomond read boys Android beam is correct what else do we have we both are tap to share debuted on the Nexus 4 I remember
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that damn y remember that Android Beam is such a good name if this is multiple choice it wait Android Beam is like
01:31:41
definitely something they would call it back then in the Android days where they were like really embracing the like Al
01:31:48
like Vibe and now they're like no we need to be Google boring yeah well I it's really funny I feel like beam
01:31:55
implies like distance but your phones had literally had to be touching OPP it only touched to get the handshake I believe no they had to be touched they had to be 4 cm away you had to yeah
01:32:08
which is you know during the entire transfer yes if I was 4 centimet away from Adam he'd be like you're touching
01:32:14
me right now yeah but now you can transfer heat which is what the are doing and data and and payment information apparently and contact
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information question number two I'm going to play you or well more accurately Ellis is going to play you an audio clip from a Samsung unpacked event
01:32:37
phones aren't just music players or web browsers they're portals to the most important places people and passions in
01:32:44
our lives and yet they have the same screens they had 10 years ago in on all sides until now the isn't just a new smartphone but a new kind of smartphone
01:32:57
it marks a new era in smartphone design the perfect balance of Form and Function Art and Science design and technology
01:33:05
and it's my pleasure to introduce an innovation that will change the way you see your smartphone and everything on it
01:33:12
the infinity display what phone was announced with infinity display that year there were multiple phones with infinity display but this was specifically for or a single phone when
01:33:25
they first announced it oh really yes shoot like which one were they talking about this must be wrong all right flip
01:33:32
him and read multiple phones with infinity display what do you got wait David oh uh I put Galaxy fold
01:33:44
one well Galaxy fold oh Andrew I put the Galaxy Note Edge nope Marquez I put the real answer is the Galaxy Note Edge but that's not
01:33:55
the answer you want you want me to say Galaxy S8 damn oh I remember oh wow but the Note Edge did it before that only one side only on one side they didn't
01:34:07
call it it only wrapped her on the right side of the phone why would they why would why would a device called The Edge
01:34:13
have something called The Infinity display cuz it both sides it was just that only one edge of it had had the was
01:34:20
the first curled but only on one no both so this was back in the obsession over screen to body ratios where phone manufacturers would quote
01:34:31
like we have an 89% SC body ratio and then someone would go we've got 90 and they go oh my God 92 and this was when
01:34:38
Samsung was just like we curved the screen over the edges and it basically looks like it's an infinite screen to
01:34:44
body I totally knew that what's confusing about that sound bite though is there like screens haven't changed in
01:34:49
10 years well except for ours like a year ago the Galaxy Note Edge we're basically taking this away from yeah I
01:34:56
remember that being called Infinity display now I was just confused like if you were going to call something Infinity display I don't know why you'd
01:35:01
call attention to an edge yeah when you're looking at it from the front it basically looks infinite you can't they
01:35:07
should have called it the whatever let's just I'll take the point though cool wow
01:35:13
wow all right well that was fun well we've got a bunch of testing now to do as you can tell by the video version of
01:35:19
the podcast we've just got boxes scattered everywhere and we've got them uh in our hands so let us know what you
01:35:24
want to see in the reviews I'm going to be wearing all kinds of stuff and holding things and testing so we'll be
01:35:31
reading your comments one smart ring for each finger are you going to double watch markz I may have to have one
01:35:38
earbud in one ear and the other and the other one phone in each pocket and have like yeah a bunch of rings it's going to
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be a good time something think that would be a sick short just starting it like this catch you guys in the next podcast with all the weables on at the
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same time thanks for watching see you guys later peace waveform is produced by Adam Elina and Ellis Ren we are
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