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What’s Going On with the Pixel 9A?

March 21, 2025 / 01:25:48

This episode covers the Pixel 9A, Pebble Watch 2, Google Assistant's transition to Gemini, and fast EV charging technology. Hosts Marquez Brownlee and Andrew Edwards discuss various tech topics, including their experiences with the Pixel 9A and the new Pebble Watch 2.

Marquez and Andrew share their thoughts on the Pixel 9A, highlighting its features such as a 48-megapixel camera and a 5,100 mAh battery. They mention the delay in its release due to quality control issues, which raises questions about Google's product management.

The hosts also talk about the Pebble Watch 2, a nostalgic return of the smartwatch that promises long battery life and basic functionality. They express excitement about its potential to appeal to users looking for simplicity in wearable tech.

In addition, they discuss the end of Google Assistant as it transitions to Gemini, detailing the new features and improvements expected with the change. They express concerns over the loss of certain functionalities that users have come to rely on.

Lastly, the episode touches on BYD's new fast-charging technology for EVs, which claims to charge vehicles at twice the speed of Tesla's superchargers. The hosts reflect on the evolving landscape of electric vehicles and the increasing competition in the market.

TL;DR

Marquez and Andrew discuss Pixel 9A, Pebble Watch 2, Google Assistant's transition to Gemini, and fast EV charging tech.

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do you think they brought back the Vista widgets I love Vista widgets would you pay $149 a month for
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them [Laughter]
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no yo what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts I'm
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Marquez I'm Andrew and this week the two of us are missing David but that's okay
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he'll be back soon uh and we're going to be talking about a whole bunch of stuff there's some some Google stories there's the pixel watch and some why did I say
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pixel watch again the pixel 9A and tensor G5 stuff that video is out if you
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want to see it on the main Channel we also talk about uh Pebble Watch 2 that's what I meant to say uh the end of Google
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assistant is also a story we can hit on and we're going to wrap it up at the end with our keywords eBay game which is a lot of fun yes but first yeah first we
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we do have Ellis has a correction yeah I've been waiting for this for a while I know probably the biggest correction
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we've ever done I just know it's been eating you up Ellis just wanted to give you the floor uh to address all right
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I've made some mistakes in the past right I've gotten some mistranslations in here and there whoops stuff has
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happened this has been insane I've gotten dozens if not hundreds of emails
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DMs like every way people were able to reach out to me they could to let me know that in the
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2005 in the 2005 dinoo 400 which was the
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title race for the 20 2005 Piston Cup which Lightning McQueen stuck out his
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tongue to finish all facts I said that it was a tie and Lightning McQueen did not win
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that Piston Cup zero piston this is for those of you that don't know what I'm talking about I'm talking about the Pixar movie Cars then I got one random
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thing the man has seven Piston Cup he has seven it's huge he has seven it's
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like all right look I'm well this would have been Lightning McQueen's it would have been the first rookie to win a
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piston cup I'm well aware that in the makeup race or the points evening out
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race at the Los Angeles Motor Speedway a few weeks later Lightning McQueen chose to not race and make a
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stand I don't care stop messaging me about cars I it was a joke not that serious I
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was talking about car with the tongue I do remember like a Stephen A Smith clip where someone asked him to compare like
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Lightning McQueen as one of the goats and he like went to his whole rant about like he doesn't have enough piston cobs
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he doesn't have enough championships and I was I thought that was pretty great you know the fan the cars fans they uh
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they know the movie well the you know and yeah just thanks for letting me know guys but like it's we're cool and don't
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let him forget yeah gosh yeah seriously anyway um I have one more one more quick
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cool thing to show off do I get to call this fan art we had somebody who is a keyboard Creator make
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us a custom waveform keyboard which is pretty sweet so it's it's Mosaic this is
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his I should forgot the name of the keyboard before I say it out loud um but he has like a cool little MKBHD slot
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here for everyone wondering it's just black uh but it has a red top kind of
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like greenish colors and then wvfrm are a little more bold in the characters I
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like that that is so sick I in and I was like oh and you made like a little
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custom keyboard that's cool it's so heavy I just want to figure out the name of it the system 65 but pretty sick I
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kind of think this has to be our typing alphabet typing test uh default keyboard
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now keyboard the space bar needs a little work but that's my
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fault what' you type Marquez is awesome I typed this is the coolest keyboard twice
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sounds very slow by the way we're working on a keyboard video for the studio channel that is unhinged and I'm
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extremely excited for it in fact one of the parts that I bought for one of the keyboards is so absurd that I think I
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have to take it out of the video so um keep an eye out for that but let's get into the news the first thing that's
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showed up on my timeline was a pixel watch coming back pixel that's the third
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time today it's not even called the pebble watch it's like when you type the wrong word and it's auto corrected and
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you you delete it and you type it again and it auto corrects again my brain keeps auto correcting it to the wrong word stop ducking doing that I think
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it's fair to to let everyone know that you and Ellis landed on a flight at like 7: a.m. this morning yeah there might be
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some sleepy talk here it was it was two days ago get up you know 4:00 a.m. to
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catch a 7: a.m. flight land shoot 3-hour drive shoot hour drive to the hotel wake
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up hour drive shoot all day Airport land at 7: a.m. sleep on the couch yeah Elis
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is sleeping on the couch and I got in this morning but um okay Pebble we're
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calling it The Pebble watch announcement because it is a company from the Creator
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uh what's Eric I'm gonna do you know how to pronounce his last name mikowski no but I'm G to try yeah M mikowski
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mikowski mikowski thank you so he created a new company called core devices I think you all talked about
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this a few weeks ago did and I missed that conversation so I don't know what you all said about it we we knew that
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this was coming we didn't know exactly what it would look like or how it would manifest but the idea of bringing a
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simple Smartwatch back that pairs to your phone appealed to basically all of us we thought that was a cool idea we
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had a lot of nostalgic thoughts about our old Pebbles and how much we like them and how eing seems to be a great idea and a long long battery life on a
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smartwatch could be awesome so now we actually can see what it looks like which is about what we expected I would say same
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shape it's a new company called core devices um and they announced two watches that they plan on bringing out this year and same shape you are very
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right because while this isn't actually Pebble it is still uh very along the
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same lines of what Pebble was when they were eight years ago I think um so open source operating system it's um like e
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in display great battery life and in fact they're using some old Pebble Parts
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in some of the watches that's nice so yes it does look similar because the core Duo 2 not a confusing name at all
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considering that's an old Intel processor Core 2 Duo yeah it's called The Core 2 Duo it's called the core is
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Core 2 Duo the same name as the Intel Duo yeah and they said this is basically
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the pebble 2 redone sure so it's coming in at $149 it is the same frame as the
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pebble time to because they found someone with a bunch of extra parts that were never used so they're literally
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using the same uh watch face exterior for it black and white paper uh eaper display 30 days of
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battery life it now has a speaker in the device to chat with AI assistants and this one should be coming out in July so
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that's the cheaper of the two then they also have the core time two or core two time now I don't know this is core time
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two time two that's probably why I got to SL confusing this is the more updated device
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$225 uh it's going to have a touchcreen they don't want it to have super complicated apps but they just still
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want the ability to navigate through touch operation versus only buttons there still will be buttons um it's
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still 30-day battery life still has a speaker it has an upgraded chip that can do step and sleep tracking and there's
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no official date on this but they still said 2025 yeah know I like the way it looks a lot this I remember reviewing
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and having I had a red Pebble with a black band and the super long battery
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life like weak plus battery life was already awesome about it and getting used to testing all these other smartw
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watches like Moto 3 60 and Galaxy watch at the time which had like a day and a half battery just made me wish I could
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have a weekl long battery life on a smartwatch so that was the number one thing I really liked obviously the screen's not going to be nearly as
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bright or beautiful and won't show as much stuff but if you don't care about that if you just want time temperature
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uh basic status stuff notifications yeah that's kind of all you need and I am
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excited for these I yeah me too I kind of think I like the cheaper one better because I've been realizing you know I'm
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now like two years into wearing this all the time and just what is it my uh
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Phoenix 9 I forget exactly which one it was cuz they switched from the epics brand but Garmin yeah the Gin I'm
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convinced this like circle is just like engraved into my wrist at this point
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every time I take it off I go that can't be good for me I took off my watch the other day and just was like oh my God
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what is that on your wrist yeah it was the mark of having used a Smartwatch for long long time it is so I'm assuming the
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cheaper one though because it doesn't have the chip for sleep tracking and stuff I'm assuming it doesn't have it's
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just flat on the bottom and I mostly just at this point want to tell time and get basic notifications so that seems
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kind of awesome it seems also like this will be probably better for Android than
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for iPhone it says it in yeah in a lot of these articles it specifically says it's still having some the idea behind
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that is Apple when they make a first party accessory to the iPhone gives themselves more access to the iPhone
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than they give anyone else so when they make headphones like airpods or whatever they don't give other Bluetooth
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headphone manufacturers the same access and so inherently there will be features in Apple's accessory that aren't in
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others that's true about go go down the accessory list about everything and so SmartWatches they give lots of things
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like lots of plugs to the Apple watch that they will not give to any other Smartwatch Android on the other hand is
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Android just lets you flip the switches turn on notifications for certain things turn them off for certain things and as
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a Android User I mean I use both phones but Apple watch over here for the iPhone I'm happy to drop a pebble on this wrist
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for the and I think I'm going to be the Dual watch yeah I'm not allow it to watch there's something about having
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like the super simple Pebble watch on one hand and the Apple watch Ultra 2 on the
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other a lot of the comments are echoing the same thing like once you have an Apple Watch it's hard to give it up you
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kind of get addicted to the notifications the the closing your rings the things that it's good at uh and I
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don't want to stop using the Apple watch but I also feel like I would flip it to theater mode and just kind of ignore it
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on my left wrist while I use the pebble on the the main wrist yeah I'm at the point where I still love this Garmin
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watch and I love the battery life but at this point I just don't have the time to go out and Hike like I used to so like
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this thing looks brand new where my epics 2 looked like it went through a war that thing was used it was used yeah
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and like but I can't I like the just quick time and the quick like text message checking um y so I think I just
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want but if you were on iOS you would also run into the same problems with your Garmin similar ones yeah they're
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saying specifically like not being able to uh reply to Notifications inside uh
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with an iPhone or connected to an iPhone with Pebble yeah like Garmin has like the auto replies you know you can like reply like okay yeah like just the basic
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ones you can't even do that on iOS it's so funny like I've been like Lane's been
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asleep on me I've been in her rocking chair and Claire's texted me I only have my watch to reply and I have to be like
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which of these seven replies best like explains what is happening now it's just like okay
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period let her decipher that one good enough yeah that is funny uh I do have
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one other Smartwatch yeah what is this maybe we shouldn't call it a smartwatch but since we're talking about watches I
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saw this and we're talking about simple watches this is the Atari 2600 my play
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watch that just got announced it is $80 um like Pebble it feels extremely basic um
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maybe more simplistic in some ways there is no Bluetooth or Wi-Fi on this so there are no notifications but it's a
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watch styled after old Atari systems that can do some very basic Fitness
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tracking like step count heart rate and calories except you can't send it to your phone it's just on watch but there
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are three so there are four Atari games you can play on it centipede Missile
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Command pong and super breakout on the watch on the watch and it also has just like watch bands and watch faces that
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are very Atari like and all Atari sound effects for your alarms and or not
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notifications alarms and timers I'm developing a hot take in my head I don't think it will be that hot I just feel
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like Nostalgia gets used to mask how bad products are sometimes and if you build an entire product around one nostalgic
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thing red flags just start going off in my head and if I am part of the
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generation that cares about this thing I'll probably just ignore it and just buy it because I love it but I why would
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I want to play brick breaker on my watch you know uh first of all brick breaker is not one of them oh sorry snake which
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one ones centipede Miss super do I want to play Pong on my watch you want to
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play Pong on your watch so I have a question for Adam that I think might answer your question on this is like
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it's 80 bucks this is not the most expensive watch because this you know I think we like watches like Garmin and
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apple because they connect to our phone and therefore it feels like we have to wear them all of the time right we're always tracking our health metrics we're
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wearing them all the time since this doesn't do this is this now just a watch that is part of your watch collection
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Adam that you wear at certain times 100% I was going to say this looks like a watch that David would like cuz David
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wears like an old CIO that he had like someone rebuilds into some custom thing
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this is that for him this feels like a watch that's part of your watch collection and depending on the day yeah
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like quirky watches you what day airplane with no Wi-Fi you want to play
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some pong on your on the tarmac uh cuz you know you have a phone
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right so I'm just trying to picture okay I today's is the day I wear the Atari watch cuz I'm for sure going to play but
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do you have pong downloaded on your phone no so there you go Fair okay I forgot to download on my phone but I
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will spend $80 to have a watch that does pretty cool it does I'm not going to lie
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it's got these nice colors the watchband it's got the Retro color scheme on the watch band too it's pretty cool I'm okay
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with like I mean this obviously is like we're 100% Nostalgia that's all we're going after for and not saying $80 is
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the cheapest but $80 is probably the you know if this was $25 I would just assume
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it's a piece of E-Waste like watches that's a Splurge you can like easily convince yourself to spend $80 on a cool
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little digital watch so funny yeah would you spend $80 on
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a an emulator app on your phone to do the exact same things no absolutely but
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you would spend $80 on a because $80 in an app world is a lot and it would probably be better but it's world it's a
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lot in the app world $80 in the watch world is a little so you would spend it in the watch world yeah it's Hardware
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interesting there's a piece of like having it and being able to see it on you that's different than an emulator
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app it's still jewelry at the end of the day like is just trying to tell people something about yourself like I'm an
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Atari nerd yeah there's and I like fun watches the physical watch for sure if I
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spent $80 on a pong app no one knows I bought that app yeah until you break it out on the plane the guy next to you was
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like whoa oh my God is that the $80 p app God you're cool wish I had that um I
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have one more quick thing here uh byd announced charging Tech that is twice as fast as Tesla's did you see this this
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one I also saw the headline so I'm going to read it right now okay I can just summarize it for you real quick if you'd rather okay yeah I
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thought you just did no byd yeah they announced their Super E platform that can charge at Peak speeds of 1,000 Kow
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or two times as fast as a Tesla V4 supercharger I mean obviously this is a good headline because they're going to
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directly compare it to Tesla which is always hot in the news but I think aside from that this is still pretty impressive I think so they're claiming
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it can add 250 M of range on a 5minute charge sick obviously I feel like at
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what point do we are we to stop saying that like it depends on charging curves and battery percentage because this just
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feels like the metric we talk about mil like minute of charging Peak miles per
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yeah yeah um but still 250 miles of range five minute charge they said their you know their goal is to get as close
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to petrol refueling as possible that feels pretty close no maybe to like a
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like a low mile per per gallon sports car like a fill up could be 3 minutes and you could get 250 mil range out of
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that yeah I probably have like almost 400 miles in my tank and definitely less than 5 minutes if you had an empty tank
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and filled it to full could be like two three in New Jersey it's only taking more than 5 minutes because we don't
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pump our gas and the guys possibly got like 20 other people but yeah so it's that's that's an impressive number the
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reason I say I want to read this is because I see these types of announcements with like smartphones before and it'll be like Oppo announces
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250 W charging and I'm like is are you announcing that you've got the ability to do it or are you like shipping things
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that are going to do this tomorrow so so far there's only two of byd's vehicles that can take advantage of this and so
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it's the vehicle that can do it and it's also Chargers in the real world that are actually doing
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it I don't know if they just announced it or but there is in here talking about how they're uh they're building 4,000 of
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these new Chargers across China they're probably starting to build them yeah I believe start to build okay yeah that's going to be sick yeah they've promised a
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major investment in the infrastructure a with no timetable on it just to be
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totally fair here um I think what made me the most interested in this is I just got this clip of Doug dearo on is his
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podcast the cars and bids podcast or is it just a Doug dearo podcast I don't know the name of it but it is the cars
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and bids team did you see his clip the other day he was talking to whoever his co-host is um this carod this carpod
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exclamation point um shouts out to Doug so he like had this great clip where
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he's just saying like I drive these Chinese cars and I'm astonished they shouldn't have sent them to us because now we know how good they are and we're
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like crap we have to catch up I watched that yeah it was a really interesting convers yeah um but like we've been
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super impressed with the Chinese cars that we've got when we did the leot Omega we've had a couple half the comments were like this isn't even the
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coolest thing we have over here yeah that is that is very true there are lots of I mean the world of Eves is getting
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way more competitive and way more like everyone's catching up and making cool Innovative things and this is one of those Innovative things super fast
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charging love that you saw the Le Omega you saw we had the L9 here as well which
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was in the mega video but that was the the three R SUV we've got byd making I
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want to say didn't we see a maybe we didn't know was it a byd bus it was a
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bus with a byd badge on it but I don't know if that's the same byd or like how
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that bus got there I've seen other byd vehicles in the US so I wouldn't have been shocked by it what size bus are we
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talking it was like a pretty young dang yeah
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what pretty young dang oh my God it was in San Francisco somewhere in between
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San Francisco and Sacramento as we were driving wait hold on none of you answered how big the bus was it was a
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bus it was a bus it was a Transit bus it was it was a coach bus okay thank you
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anyway I do see by vehicles in the US today which is already pretty cool but
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like there is that other quote we've talked about multiple times of the Ford CEO driving the the xiaomi su7 or something not wanting
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to give it back like yeah these cars are getting competitive they're really good so yes faster charging obviously awesome
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hopefully they build these like quickly that'll be awesome random but related um over the weekend I saw an ID Buzz just
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driving around in Long Island not even like in in the city the wild yeah in the wild spotted in the
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wild super discounted like you can get one used for 60 no way
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bucks yeah a lot of these the other thing Doug like everything has
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depreciated these EVS depreciate so fast that even if you're not into EVS at a
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certain price it's a pretty great deal like the taan is obviously a very expensive EV when it's brand new but a
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2-year-old tyan with 20,000 miles on it is 60% off and so I didn't watch the
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whole clip of him talking about that but is that because we don't know longevity of EVS yet or we don't have a used sales
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Market or he was he was saying a Nissan Leaf is basically free at this point yeah it's because it's kind of like a
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piece of tech like when you think about a a 2-year-old Android phone that's been used and how it doesn't hold its value
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because the tech is moving along so quickly that there's no reason for it to hold its value the new tech is just that much better why would you buy the old
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one but the old versions are still very capable and for people who only buy a car every couple of years the fact that
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you can get what was just $90,000 for 65 just feels like such a
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deal so depreciation is working for a lot of people who are getting secondhand EVS H so that's that's a very it's a
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very trendy thing that is just happening with lots of cars that are do one more
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question before I know Ellis like audibly gasped looking at something over there so before he tells us what prices
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I'm assuming he saw do you think like a lot of people buying they're becoming more mainstream now but a lot of people
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buying EV who would be buying new ones and selling them is like their more tech heades people and like
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updating that feels like uh more like you're upgrading your phone or your Tech
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versus then like upgrading your car most people I mean like every car I've ever bought is like I've bought this I'm
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going to take as much time not paying towards the financing as possible once I'm done until the the wheels are
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falling off yeah so I guess for people buying new now it's definitely still
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early adopters but it's creeping into the middle of the bell curve so I think Teslas are everywhere and they feel
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pretty safe most people are cool buying a new it's the most popular car in the world obviously um but in the rivan and
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lucid and a lot of other new EVS it's still mostly early adopters but you know
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they're proving out they're people are buying them using them for hundreds of thousands of miles and they're becoming
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more trusted as time goes on I will say that 's like a s I have the R2 pre-order
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I really believe in rivan but every time there's that one article that pops up here and there of like will rivan make
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it to blah I just go man am I like pulling a Fisker not that I think
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they're like Fisker but like that's a scenario that's really scary of buying a car that's that expensive and then a
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year later yeah it being a brick pretty much I've talked about this on autofocus Channel and with a lot of other tech
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reviews when I review a piece of tech I gen generally pay no attention to the
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stock price of the company I just don't care how the company is doing I'm a very product F Focus person but the one
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exception that I've had to make is reviewing electric vehicles where people
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are expected to own them for 6 Seven 8 nine years and it's possible that the company that makes and services it won't
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exist in that amount of time and these aren't off the-shelf parts that your mechanic has like yeah even rivan now
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like I'm well aware of very long lead times for replacement parts repairs and
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things like that I've got a little dent on my hood from like one of the first few drives where a little like rock
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dinged my hood I'm never going to get that replaced it takes like 3 to five months to get a new hood so that's just
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like one of those things you have to think about with new EVS today so that's
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why it's still mostly early adopters they hear that stuff it's kind of like horror stories whatever I'll just get the like standard option and I'll not
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think too hard about it and I'll get e in a couple more years but yeah the bellur is starting to we starting to get
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up there I think I also think that people buying EVS at least originally
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were people that could for the most part afford it and like be able to have that
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and if something goes wrong they could potentially get another car not like a brand new $70,000 car you know like if
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this thing craps out on me I could still afford to get like a $5,000 beater you know where most people don't shop for
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cars that way they will get a used car and run it into the ground yeah like in the very very earliest days of EVS
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that's kind of how it was where if you had bought a Model S or something for a
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lot of people that was not their only car and they could rely on oh I'm going on a road trip I'll take the gas car but oh I I drive the Tesla for you know
00:25:15
commuting and other stuff like that that was true of like the earliest days of EVS when they're brand new and very expensive but speaking of commuting
00:25:22
Ellis found his new commuter car yeah what are you gasping at over there okay so I found a listing at a dealership in
00:25:28
Patterson New Jersey for a 2012 Nissan Leaf this is like I don't know if this
00:25:33
is the first gen but this is like an early gen earlier one yeah early gen Le talking like 80 miles of range or
00:25:39
something like that uh we're talking 73 miles of range charges in just under
00:25:45
eight hours no fast um it's
00:25:50
blue yeah how much do we think this car costs how many miles does it have on it
00:25:56
it has 4 3,561 mil that's a lot of miles for a
00:26:02
leaf the funny thing is when Doug uses this example he's like oh no the old Leaf still have some value to it it's
00:26:07
the new ones that are like uh I the newer ones were less silly numbers the
00:26:13
newer ones were like actually like seemed like a pretty normal used car price okay really I'm going in the teens
00:26:19
the teens I'm going going to rate it 1 through te 16,900 you're saying 16,000 169 okay not
00:26:27
even even the newer Leafs were that much I'm saying like oh my God
00:26:33
like 4,999 4,900 what if I told you that if this
00:26:39
was Price's right rules you'd both be disqualified no way really this 2012
00:26:44
Nissan Leaf Leaf in Patterson New Jersey is currently on sale for
00:26:51
$3,499 and crazy I'm not an expert in like the used car Biz maybe someone could explain what's going on here
00:26:57
better but I I just looked up the VIN number just to make sure like is this a salvage title is there something like
00:27:02
seriously wrong with this car I found a previous dealer who listed this as
00:27:08
sold with 22 fewer miles on it so I don't know if someone bought it drove it
00:27:14
for 20 miles and said I'm done or if that's just test drive mileage it driving from one dealership to the other
00:27:20
I wonder if a dealer bought it off an but but if you live or like an auction maybe I don't know yeah so if you live
00:27:27
in the the North Jersey that Patterson's in North Jersey right yeah if you live in North Jersey have 4,000 bucks to kill
00:27:34
and want a I should say and want a fine car just for uh context that car new was
00:27:41
$335,000 roughly wow new yeah in 2012 yep yeah how much are used regular
00:27:48
leaves going for actually at this point I kind of want to make EVS the eBay game we play later that'd be the category but
00:27:55
I think uh eBay automatic is probably uh I see it there's one in a Newark a 2024
00:28:02
for 19 I see some 2017s for under 10 it's crazy cuz those cars they're not
00:28:09
bad they just have no range there's 2020 for $9,000 Americans just hate compact
00:28:15
cars for no reason yeah yeah it's so silly we can do it guys I like them yeah
00:28:23
we all like I mean we all like them the Lea man it's one of those uh I I
00:28:28
reviewed the id4 not that long ago and I don't think it was a video I think it was just for top gear but I did like
00:28:34
sort of put it in article form and it is like the I had the segment in the Top Gear articles where I would compare the
00:28:42
the EV to a household Gadget to sort of contextualize how to think about where
00:28:48
this one sits in the market and the id4 was a toaster it's just it's an appliance there's nothing exciting about
00:28:55
it it's whether it's new or used you can't even really tell it's just a car
00:29:01
and that was fine and it got you from point A to point B that's what the leaf is it's just you got a car you you got
00:29:08
some place to charge at work great successful mission accomplished that's all that's all you really think about
00:29:13
with those my friend Ian best friend of mine uh has this dream of converting a
00:29:19
Subaru Baja into an EV blast uh he does want to paint it cyan so that it can be
00:29:25
a Baja Blast but I really hope one day he accomplishes that dream and uh and
00:29:31
has an electric Baja don't let your dreams be dreams
00:29:36
Ian and with that we should take a break we'll go straight to trivia of
00:29:43
course trivia okay first question the term Leaf
00:29:49
from the Nissan Leaf is actually a backronym for what like c c no no I'm just saying like
00:30:00
is it you get all four words and you're right is it whoever gets the most words inside it is right I want all of it one
00:30:07
point for each word seems really hard it's not that hard leaf it's four words
00:30:12
it's definitely four words it might not be four words it's four words it's four words one of them has a hyphen but it's
00:30:18
four words all right all right one point for word one point I'll propose one there's only one point at stake whoever
00:30:24
gets the most words wins if one person if we both get all for then we both get a point okay yeah that's fair we'll see
00:30:31
okay yeah I didn't know his backr him well we'll think about that answers will be at the end like usual we'll be right
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form all right welcome back let's talk a whole bunch of the Google stuff of this week first of all publish the pixel 9A
00:32:03
Impressions video just want to say the Embargo big red flag uh and I got to use
00:32:11
the phone behind the scenes obviously and I shot my video but the Embargo specifically said in this Impressions
00:32:16
video which is funny I shot it in the exact same room as the pixel 8A Impressions video in this Impressions
00:32:22
video you are only allowed to show the phone in hand back of the phone or the
00:32:28
front of the phone home screen only I'm not going to call out any other channels for possibly not adhering to that
00:32:34
embargo but I adhere to that embargo it is a massive red flag though because what if we said anytime a company
00:32:40
separates out like software from the normal Impressions process you're like okay so what's wrong with the software
00:32:46
remember the surface Duo which was kind of a sof well we all found out why that
00:32:51
separate embar that one became very obvious um but anyway uh the phone itself is about what we expected we've
00:32:58
been talking about leaks of this phone for a while so it's $499 it is their mid-range SL budget end of the lineup
00:33:03
for pixel9 it removes the camera bar but it has dual cameras still they are
00:33:09
basically flushed with the back of the phone 48 megapixel regular camera 13 megapixel Ultra wide
00:33:15
and a 5,100 mAh battery which makes it the largest ever in any pixel and I suspect
00:33:23
that using it it will have a great battery life a lot of the other features of the phone are very similar to pixel 9
00:33:28
it's got a plastic pack instead of glass but it's got like pretty flat sides I see these comments online about the
00:33:34
bezels being enormous and maybe I'm just used to testing relatively cheap phones
00:33:40
but it didn't strike me as like horrible it was worse than a regular Flagship but it's not terrible uh but it has bigger
00:33:47
bezels and slower charging and regular CH wireless charging but in general it's about what we expected it's the pixel 9A
00:33:53
so if you want to watch that Impressions video that's there update on that is the phone is actually delayed we thought it
00:33:59
would be coming out like sort of right after our videos were it is actually not coming out now until apparently April we
00:34:06
don't know exactly when but they're saying April we also don't know why there is some speculation as to why but
00:34:12
that phone is slightly delayed they just said we're checking on a component quality issue that's affecting a small number of pixel 9A devices um it happens
00:34:20
yeah unfortun it's always a small number but it's always the small number that completely delays an entire launch which
00:34:27
makes me think think maybe that number ain't so small well you know you can't ship I mean anytime it's either like
00:34:33
somebody writes an article and the phone's out already and you have to take it back or you just address it now and you delay the phone a little bit so I
00:34:39
want to give some credit and I want to make some speculation okay the credit I
00:34:44
will give is you still can't pre-order it yet which I think is good because I'm sure there are plenty of other companies
00:34:50
that would let a red flagged impression go out have issues delay it but still
00:34:55
let people send them money so I'm glad cannot do that yet that's fair the speculation you have to immediately
00:35:02
think is part of the reason this one like they enforce harder rules on the
00:35:08
original embargo and then immediately have something that's a big enough issue that it delays you're saying very hard
00:35:14
for me not to put those together and be like was there something they knew about at this briefing and then they decide
00:35:21
not to talk about it later maybe maybe not I like to speculate a little bit the
00:35:28
coincidence I think not sprinkle a little drama in there somewhat sometimes but um yeah little what do you think do
00:35:34
you think it is something specific or I guess I don't know what because the thing is is they still let you all use the phone right and you still used it
00:35:40
and everything felt totally fine and also they're very clearly checking all of those phones to make sure it doesn't
00:35:47
have the problem before they're going to let a bunch of people like review it so we wouldn't have seen that issue in our
00:35:53
review Impressions devices because those are all curated and handpicked and they've even gone so far as to they're
00:36:00
saying they're not sending them out to reviewers yet right yeah so it seems like there's quite a bit of because they
00:36:05
could send them out ones that they check to not have the problems and still send them out and there still could be reviews done on them I'm glad they're
00:36:12
not doing that yet and letting it but like this whole launch has like you said big big old red flag on it little damper
00:36:19
I think everyone should be a little more careful ordering it and going through the proper uh research before yeah I
00:36:27
guess spending money on it I guess the question is I mean they're never going to tell us what the problem was right they're never they're not going to go
00:36:33
all right we fixed it turns out there was just a vibration motor issue where some of them were shorting out oh they're all fine now like they're not going to tell us so it's just unless
00:36:39
it's something stupid well it depends on the sity yeah I mean if it's enough for them to delay the phone it's probably
00:36:44
kind of significant so I just feel like they're going to just sell the phone in April and that'll be that and we're never going to find out exactly what it
00:36:50
was unless it leaks which it's Google so it might but I imagine they're just
00:36:57
going to put it on sale and it's going to be what we expected all over again just a month later that's all I can sort of picture
00:37:04
happening yeah I want to try and guess what what the issue is but I have no idea no idea and I think like it would
00:37:10
expose a lot of potentially more stuff down the pipeline of why an issue is problem maybe they
00:37:16
have multiple factories working on it and something for remember when the steam deck didn't they have two different factories working on it where
00:37:22
one installed the fan backwards so like magnetic cases were causing the fan issue to like stop or I guess that was a
00:37:28
debrand issue but because there were two separately manufactured steam decks yeah
00:37:33
um yeah you're probably right we'll probably never find out I did say something though at the end of the pixel
00:37:39
8 or pixel 9A video MH which is because I mean that it was a very short
00:37:44
Impressions like all right here's the phone I can't show you anything but here it is you know specs now but at the end I'm like I also am curious about pixel
00:37:51
10 and the reason I'm curious about pixel 10 is the same as it's been for the last couple months tensor G5 Poss
00:37:57
Poss having a big performance jump and being at the level of the Qualcomm ships and maybe finally being like a full
00:38:03
Flagship through and through from the outside Hardware to the inside the specs and the software and competing on every
00:38:08
level and yet to be honest I I like the pixel phones but they are not the highest performers at that max level so
00:38:17
I'm very curious if pixel 10's finally going to do it if it's finally going to be the one that reaches that Flagship
00:38:23
through and through level and then after the video goes out we get a nice
00:38:30
article uh that seems to pour water on that and I actually said in the video I feel like I'm jinxing it by saying
00:38:35
that's all loud so here we are the headline says tensor g5s processor might drag down the performance of the pixel
00:38:41
10 line it might not be all that we were hoping for it to be do you think it's because they're not calling it The pixel
00:38:47
X yeah they should call pixel X the the 10 feels like a big opportunity we
00:38:53
somehow haven't seen the actual retail packaging yet it could still do it we'll know by next week yeah so the pixel 9A feels
00:39:02
like it's good because it has the same chip as the flagships but that chip is just not a
00:39:08
very good Flagship chip so it's like great you're on the same level of performance of the flagships but the flagships are a step behind the
00:39:15
Snapdragon 8 Elites of the world got it um so we are hoping for this next tensor
00:39:21
ship whatever the next generation is G5 to really Step Up efficiency obviously
00:39:26
this going to have some AI compute stuff on board they all are doing that too but just in general higher clock speeds more
00:39:33
memory band with just more processing uh performance in general and
00:39:38
it seems like maybe we shouldn't get our hopes up that high and that's sad yeah did you read through this article I read
00:39:44
through it and understand very little of it it's a bad week for David to not be here because um but I I I have a general
00:39:51
gist of it I also wrote down some quotes if you just like me to read them off you can read the quotes I can I can sort of translate maybe you can help translate
00:39:56
and then I do have an analogy um to and you can tell me if it's right or wrong sure okay so uh Google is designing his
00:40:03
processor without Samsung's help and is going to tsmc to handle manufacturing um here are some of the quotes that I don't
00:40:09
fully understand at all but I think I have an idea of what's going on Google send to be blending its proprietary
00:40:14
designs uh the brains and bronze of the chip the GPU and CPU are reportedly coming from arm and Imagination
00:40:21
Technologies um video Codec ditches Google's custom big wave and Samsung's MFC in favor of chips and media is off
00:40:27
the shelf solution display controller is also switching from Samsung's dpu to
00:40:32
Vera silicon's dc9000 fully custom ISP designed entire entirely by Google replacing Samsung
00:40:39
customized ISP found in tensor G4 those seem to be the biggest changes we're expecting with G5 yeah yeah tensor G4 is
00:40:46
designed by Samsung if you didn't know which is funny because a lot of people don't a lot of people don't know that these internal components are are made
00:40:53
by each other's competitors like Samsung makes displays for the iPhone it's all hilarious uh so when we first switched to tensor
00:41:01
in pixels it became interesting because we assumed Google would be doing lots of optimizations for their own thing and it
00:41:06
turns out there wasn't that many and now when they can finally design from head to toe their own chip and get it done
00:41:13
straight through tsmc they can switch a lot of parts out from Samsung design parts that aren't necessarily optimized to specific other ones that could make
00:41:21
it perform better Samsung manufactur manufacturers they didn't design sorry manufacturers yes so
00:41:27
there are lots of Samsung individual pieces on there that are not optimized so ideally things get way better when
00:41:34
they are able to control the entire vertical integration mhm uh that's
00:41:40
essentially what that means and from this article it seems like is tensor G5 this big jump in Tech and like is it the
00:41:49
next big thing for Pixel it's like a yes and no where like performance we're not going to see immediately is going to be
00:41:56
like this big jump but the the fact that Google has so much more of a say in all of the design process of it feels like a
00:42:02
big step for the pixel lineup and tensor because now we're getting closer to that like from the groundup ecosystem I think
00:42:09
so yeah and but I also just feel like and maybe this is shortsighted but I
00:42:14
just feel like you just need more raw horsepower in general okay which is like what you get from the Snapdragon 8 Elite
00:42:20
phones like they just have more power and more headro and can do more with the higher end applications and game and
00:42:27
things that need more power tensor just doesn't have that type of power do you think it has the potential you know
00:42:32
maybe this is like they had to take the step back to take two steps forward where like let's Wrangle this more in
00:42:39
closer to us get us designing all the things for maximum efficiency and then you know next year year after they can
00:42:46
make more Headway on that because it's less um Samsung manufactured stuff I think that could be the the path yeah
00:42:52
okay so that's what we're all hoping for fingers crossed I mean it's not entirely
00:42:57
damning this headline it's just the the headline says might I'm not I'm not going to give up
00:43:04
hope on Pixel 10 just yet okay can I make an analogy yes that as a film student this is such a bad take I I
00:43:10
can't believe this is about to as a film student people are either going to hate me or love me for this or just not
00:43:16
understand it at all this feels like the movie Citizen K to me how Andrew Citizen
00:43:22
Kane okay yeah tell us Andrew as a film major everyone always talk talks about citizen King being the greatest movie
00:43:29
ever it's like revolutionary and you need to all see it and the movie sucks I think it's super boring do you
00:43:36
agree with him agree the movie itself revolutionized the film industry because
00:43:42
of how we shoot things they did a lot of stuff that has never been done before and just like movies and filmmakers and
00:43:49
directors of Photography going forward change the way that they shoot movies so
00:43:55
is this is the tensor G5 the thing that in of itself isn't that
00:44:01
amazing when we first see it but is this step into completely changing the tensor
00:44:07
lineup that's not a terrible take maybe I would just say tensor G1 was Citizen
00:44:13
Cane okay because it was their first step towards doing the whole vertical
00:44:19
integration I mean they had other Qualcomm chips and Google phones in the past and suddenly it's tensor oh they're
00:44:24
going to do their own optimization and they have had to work on that and now there's going to be five generations in
00:44:30
so uh I I see where you're coming from I feel like that has some legs we could maybe per has got me really worried now
00:44:36
about saying that out loud but I don't know I don't think it's a very good movie okay I just I just want to point
00:44:42
out on the Wikipedia page for Citizen Cane the third sentence the third
00:44:47
sentence the first sentence Citizen Cane is a movie second sentence it was his it was Well's first future fil the third
00:44:53
sentence Citizen Kane is frequently cited as the greatest fil film ever made I know that's its problem I think is cuz
00:45:00
as a film student you go in hearing that a thousand times and then you watch it and you're like what was that oh my God
00:45:05
if you don't get a single DM about this I swear to God I got hundreds about cars the only
00:45:11
good the only good thing about Citizen Kane is that the cheat code in The Sims
00:45:16
was Rose Bud colon semic spoil it for anyone that hasn't seen it I'm that's all I'm saying I have not seen it
00:45:23
there's been enough time yeah we might not I mean if you're if this is a spoiler at this point you
00:45:28
weren't going to see it so that's fine um listen if never mind I'll leave it
00:45:34
there what do we always say expectations are the thief of Joy if you go into watching a movie and someone's already
00:45:40
told you that this is the singular greatest film ever created it cannot possibly live up to that it's my dad's
00:45:45
favorite film is it really yeah and I went into that class
00:45:51
so oh yeah Jesus Christ excited but how many how many K in cups is Charles
00:45:58
Foster Kane one I think it's my dad's favorite film is a good bar that's a
00:46:03
good bar that you can clear I have a watch movie you'll be like oh I could see why this is your I've met Adam's dad he has great tastes so I can't I don't
00:46:11
think but that's that's one bar and then this is the greatest movie you will ever watch is a very different bar no that's
00:46:19
tenant Inception was pretty good too if that if if not to harp on this too much longer but if this if people said it is
00:46:26
the the most important movie ever made that's a to film it like that's way different yeah oh so as a viewer I
00:46:33
didn't enjoy it yeah you can say it's but it might not be the best I think I should have learned about it I didn't
00:46:40
really like it that much though better than Doom but if the
00:46:45
bar we're good that's funny um okay there's still more Google stuff though
00:46:51
so here's uh do we have the memorium music ready for this one oh we do indeed
00:46:58
I just made Alice mad and he shut his laptop and kind of screwed we see how how do the lights still work
00:47:04
nope dang it that's fine we can still do this I broke is David the piece that holds this podcast together maybe I
00:47:11
think we're finding that out yeah well anyway killedbygoogle tocom noted
00:47:16
website that um documents all the projects killed by this massive company full of people that don't talk to each
00:47:21
other uh they have one to add now the grave is Doug it's just it hasn't been
00:47:27
lowered in yet yes oh so take this opportunity to say goodbye officially to
00:47:36
Google Assistant lived a good life was compared many times to other assistants like Siri
00:47:43
Alexa and others uh but soon found itself passing
00:47:49
the Baton to the next generation of Google Assistant forcefully passing the B it had no choice in the so right
00:47:56
before step stepping into the grave it taught everything it knew to this new kid named Gemini and then lowered itself
00:48:02
peacefully never to be heard from again we still have a little more time yeah it's still in all of our speakers you
00:48:09
bring that okay that is a very that's a question I have um I'm G to start by this by so Google had had an
00:48:15
announcement on March 14th that Gemini will be taking over Google assistant and Google Assistant will be replac in 2025
00:48:22
great um they said over the coming months we're upgrading more users on mobile devices from Google assistant to Gemini and later this year the classic
00:48:28
Google Assistant will no longer be accessible on most mobile devices or available for new download on mobile app stores
00:48:34
additional additionally we will be upgrading tablets cars and devices that connect to your phone such as headphone
00:48:40
and watches to Gemini we're also bringing a new experience powered by Gemini to home devices like speakers displays and TVs we look forward to
00:48:46
sharing more details with you in the next few months until then assistant will continue to operate on those devices so I guess it does say it's
00:48:53
going to speakers eventually yeah that pretty much just says sayara assistant
00:48:59
it's funny cuz still to this day on Android phones like if you hold down the power button mhm you get the Google
00:49:05
Assistant thing but if you have a widget on the home screen it's still Google assistant oh and so I recently was going
00:49:12
to go to a restaurant and I opened Gemini and I just said the name of the restaurant so I could navigate to it and
00:49:17
Gemini just started telling me the history of the restaurant like just doesn't know what I want to do with that information Google Assistant still knows
00:49:24
like oh I say the name of the restaurant pull up the listing I'm going to navigate there so uh you know when that
00:49:29
goes away I'm still a little bit worried about Gemini we'll see but in general it
00:49:34
seems to have caught up and does mostly all the things that I want it to do from Google assist so they did in the um
00:49:40
press release say they've updated to a lot of the most requested uh features in it and they have this actually pretty
00:49:45
awesome list that like Gemini now has weather updates it has event reminders and lists Maps can uh work with Google
00:49:53
Drive asking about a video play music flights in hotels what's on your screen messaging alarms
00:49:58
and timers something I think we were all actually pretty can control your smart home which is something I was very worried about um You can call on it uh
00:50:06
what else is here messaging apps the two things that are on this list that are not available on Gemini that is
00:50:12
available on your assistance is routines and finding out what song is playing I'm very confused at why I can't
00:50:19
figure that one out it seems like multimodal the most obvious yeah that seems like the first thing it should do
00:50:25
cuz it has access to your your microphones routines is also a little weird I think if you're someone who uses
00:50:32
routines you it's really I mean it's in the name it is part of your routine at
00:50:37
that point I my routines kind of fell apart I kind of want to put those back together I had some routines every
00:50:44
morning well yeah I guess I should wait for the transition but I I had a routine where every morning I would say good morning to the speaker and it would do a
00:50:50
whole bunch of things it would open the shades yeah I had to say like that too or it wouldn't respond it would open the
00:50:55
shades it would start playing the news tell me the weather tell me traffic to work things like that and then slowly
00:51:01
one by one they started breaking and then I just stopped doing that routine because it didn't work anymore so I got
00:51:07
to build that one up again maybe when Gemini why do we put up with this I love all my Google integration stuff it was
00:51:13
so cool when it worked though it felt like magic it's like this is the smart home of the future this is so great and then it stopped it really is and then
00:51:21
you just spend an entire day resetting all of your Google devices to try and get it to work like it used to and then you realize half of the things have just
00:51:28
been killed off ever since moving in with my fiance now she is very against
00:51:33
home assistance and anything like that home automation so I have not had to live with it and can confirm pretty fine
00:51:42
it's cool just like press the button just press a few extra buttons in the morning yeah honestly that's how most people are it's fine but yeah I I assume
00:51:50
assistant will go out peacefully and Gemini will pick up the slack but uh
00:51:55
yeah sure it will be a smooth transition and Gemini will definitely get none of the things wrong that were really simple
00:52:01
for Google Assistant don't all right I've got one
00:52:06
more Google headline for you okay Google Wallet launches new feature for kids to securely pay and store passes so tap to
00:52:13
pay for your children's phone kids to securely pay and store passes you can
00:52:19
send your kid to the store with like a like a pass a credit card on their phone for tap tobay it like okay ultimately
00:52:26
this makes sense because what if uh your kid's in like a bus pass or like if
00:52:32
they're on a field trip and you need to you don't have no one really carries cash around with them it's hard to give your kid 20 bucks to pay for launch on
00:52:38
like a field trip so basically you can add credit cards onto their phones that
00:52:43
you get an email every time they use it you can like immediately revoke the credit card off of the phone in case they're spending it too much on but like
00:52:50
so much of this just reminds me of like whenever there's microtransactions in a game it's always like oh did you use
00:52:56
your parents credit card for these v-bucks or whatever and they're spending too much and Google was like let's do
00:53:02
that in real life let's give these kids tap to pay so they can just go buy whatever they want with their phone
00:53:07
until their parents get too many emails and now the credit card companies this is bold of Google to assume that kids
00:53:14
have Androids it's actually may the most interesting part cuz I didn't even think
00:53:20
how many kids are going to do this versus like if Apple wallet or whatever yeah I don't know though but that's it
00:53:26
could be a way to get young people like when I I young people makes it sound like I'm talking about teenagers like
00:53:32
the youngest possible demographic in Android as their first phone like this might be how they disrupt the pipeline
00:53:40
there's a reason Samsung paid Mr B so much money to do Samsung things because they're like we've lost the younger
00:53:46
generation we need to now get the generation that hasn't even bought phones yet and we want them to want
00:53:52
Samsung phones yeah I mean the it doesn't seem like the Galaxy fortnite skins really work that well for the
00:53:58
awesome ads awes all the the a series awesome awesome awesome you remember those no I don't you didn't see those
00:54:04
commercials no oh apparently the A and a54 stands for awesome and they did these commercials where they would just
00:54:10
call the phone awesome over and over again and I let me P CU I'm not
00:54:15
describing it very well and I feel like you guys are going to appreciate how weird this is it's for some reason it's reminding me of the budweis or frogs Bud
00:54:23
why or now that's
00:54:28
memorable kids would remember that awesome screen awesome CA
00:54:36
awesome thisal no this is this rules are we
00:54:42
going to get copyright Struck from this we can do a test upload first
00:54:54
okay how did this not work whoever loses in trivia this year has to set that as their ringtone on their phone for the
00:55:01
next month that's deal that's deal wait a banger yeah I like that it it didn't
00:55:09
convert any of the youth it it didn't apparently yeah so that's where we're at
00:55:14
lots of Google News look at this the Google podcast we didn't talk about Apple once a whole Google segment in the
00:55:19
middle wow good for them yeah well our whole final segment is going to be a game and we're going to try we're we're
00:55:26
going to play our uh keywords eBay game trying to find the most expensive thing sold on eBay in a particular category
00:55:32
it's going to be a good time so before we get there one more trivia [Music]
00:55:39
question I'm sorry the lights did work I broke the lights when Andrew made me mad about Dune and you made me mad about
00:55:47
tennet just dissing all the movies I like question number two I wanted to do
00:55:53
a question about microtransactions because it does seem like that is what the fortnite card is for and when sorry
00:56:01
the the the go the Google uh csgo skins
00:56:06
card um I was looking around for the most absurd microtransactions in the
00:56:12
history of games found some funny fortnite skins found some expensive fortnite skins
00:56:18
$40 oh I feel like there's more expensive than that you have to weirdly like buy them on eBay though you like
00:56:23
you have to buy an account yeah or like um you know like buy this Samsung Galaxy for $1,000 I played fortnite when that
00:56:31
came out and we got one of the phones and I put it on my account and I that's why in our fortnite office game we're
00:56:37
playing with the Samsung Galaxy skin and everyone's like that's a CRA like that's a crazy rare skin you had to buy the
00:56:42
like Note 8 I think or note 9 to get it but the silliest microtransaction I
00:56:49
found was actually baked into a little game called Windows 10 ever heard of it
00:56:57
no I'm just kidding but I did find a funny little microtransaction in Windows 10 and so the question is what upon
00:57:04
launch could Windows 10 users pay a149 per month
00:57:10
for that's the question that's the question get what do you get for $149 at launch I think it it I found
00:57:18
discrepancies as far as what it would cost now because we're on Windows 11 it seems like they raised the price to
00:57:23
$1.99 but I could so it's still available still available and it's a Microsoft product I
00:57:31
guess yeah it's a micro transac soft
00:57:36
fraud but I feel like it's not I feel like I would have known about it anyways Windows 10 about that 10 I'll brainstorm
00:57:44
even more after the break do you think they brought back the Vista widgets I
00:57:49
love Vista widgets would you pay $149 a month for them
00:57:55
no but I did like him I did like [Music]
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seats we've traded places Adam and Ellis Are Over Here Andrew is over there and that's because we're playing the it
00:59:24
doesn't have a name yet so I'm just going to call it the keywords game the keywords game you have to say in that
00:59:29
Cadence every time the keywords G keywords game keywords explain how it works bre it down sure so for those of
00:59:36
you who don't remember which we did this very fast last time so you might not remember that much essentially what's I'm on eBay right now we are going to
00:59:43
have three rounds I'm going to give you a tech category and you guys need to
00:59:48
convince you need to tell me what words to type into the eBay search bar to find the most expensive product in that
00:59:54
category and it is remind me it's the top whoever is the most expensive top item so what's going
01:00:01
to happen is each round has a number of keywords first round has three three words you're going to give me second
01:00:06
round has four words you're going to give me third round has five words you're going to give me back to me mhm none of those words can be repeated by
01:00:13
anybody and then once you tell me to search like I think last time did we do phones yeah we so you gave me like if
01:00:20
you gave me Apple iPhone 16 I'm going to type in Apple iPhone 16 you're going to
01:00:25
give give me a number between 1 and 10 I'm going to scroll to that piece that listing in the sold categories of eBay
01:00:32
and whatever that price is that's the price you get whoever gets the most money at the end wins all right cool
01:00:39
then you wouldn't be able to use Apple iPhone or 16 anymore yeah okay all right so I have a tech category and I want you
01:00:46
to ask some questions to see to make sure we're all on the same page here
01:00:51
okay I'm going to do it's an audio category I let's make it fair for everybody the device has to be able to
01:00:59
play sound that's it play sound it it has to be able to play sound yes it has
01:01:06
it has to have a speaker so play sound make a sound make a make a
01:01:13
sound sounds like just like mechanically it could make sounds yeah like I could pick a car like my no it needs to be able to have like a speaker okay cars
01:01:20
have a speaker I just okay I think we should keep it as like an an audio focused audio focused
01:01:27
it's per it's purpose must be to play sound then maybe yeah okay let's say that it's a key making sound is a key
01:01:34
feature in it I I'm trying to think of like how do we keep this I know Ellis is going to ask a million I'm trying to
01:01:40
think does an MP3 player count cuz it it would not it doesn't because it doesn't has no speaker yeah exactly it just has
01:01:46
a headphone jack Andrew's thinking what do you guys want do you
01:01:51
want that to count an MP3 player to count do you want to just start make it a little more difficult it won't count
01:01:58
it has to play sound it has to play sound with a speaker mhm okay something can hook up to it to play the sound but
01:02:03
it physically has to now you're killing me it physically has to make the noise that's twoo different okay it physically
01:02:09
has to make the noise all right all right I got one I tried to pick a category because Adam and Ellis were in this Marquez is obviously a phone person
01:02:16
but I think he knows a lot of sounds I was going to do cameras but doing that without David here would be super mean
01:02:21
um who wants to go first is this is a test round right no this is a real round let's just go into it oh God okay okay
01:02:27
so first round is three keywords three keywords okay I need to ler find a
01:02:33
quicker way to explain this next time JBL
01:02:40
orange original breaking out original pretty early okay I'm going to go with the
01:02:48
fourth item please all right 2290
01:02:56
damn $22.90 it is the original JBL Flip for charge speaker yeah you played
01:03:02
yourself yeah you play considering the one above this is a um soccer card for $1,000 I don't know what what don't make
01:03:09
sound though that wouldn't qualify what were you aiming for the original like orange foam JBL like standing speakers
01:03:17
oh well a lot of people are selling orange JBL cable USB cables so you
01:03:23
actually got the better one out of all of this oh no I want to remember this brand name let down original maybe I can
01:03:31
help you get the brand name and this has to be Tech $2.90 it has to I think if it as a
01:03:38
speaker it essentially is Tech in itself no might not have a speaker but it makes
01:03:45
sound and it's primary purposes to make sound it's primary purposes to make sound yeah how about this if both of you
01:03:51
guys veto it we'll uh okay send it okay just send it I'll I'll be it if I
01:03:58
don't I'm I'm I'm a fair I'm curious now okay
01:04:04
um electric
01:04:14
guitar I don't want to use original right now you can't can't I use oh because you use original I can't use
01:04:20
original perfect one through 10 one okay I have a
01:04:27
question to ask you guys if it if in the list the thing is not something that
01:04:33
plays noise do you want me to just jump to the closest thing that does that is an actual piece of text that's fair yes
01:04:39
okay number one is a a guitar book oh so
01:04:45
I will go to the next one which is a DSP Nano cortex digital amp pedal okay
01:04:51
effects new perfect circuit $425 damn that's a solid all right so here's the
01:04:58
here's the question Andrew do I play it safe and get
01:05:04
something that I know costs more than $400 or do I do I shoot for the moon and
01:05:10
land on the Stars winner last time hit the moon because I'll be real with everything I have right now I could just
01:05:16
say MacBook Air new 2016 there's different ways of going
01:05:23
about it cuz if you also go Ultra specific super not that many sold you're going get crap
01:05:30
and like there's a bunch of vintage synthesizers we could do here but I don't know if damn why did I none of
01:05:37
this I'm GNA we got two more rounds you know what you know what 400 let's let's have some fun I'm not
01:05:44
going to shoot for the moon but I think I could be 400 the first word is going to be stter S D eer stter oh wait no no
01:05:53
no wait wait wait wait wait it has to have speaker it has to make noise yeah cuz electric guitar does not have
01:05:59
speaker it has to its primary function needs to be making noise great stter
01:06:04
first word s t u d e r MH second word mint good word y mhm third
01:06:12
word chocolate color the question is do we want to go for a mixer or a real
01:06:18
toore put in one of those is one word one of those is three words so put in
01:06:24
put in console c o n s o l
01:06:30
e stter mint console and I want number wait I should just be thinking of
01:06:37
headphones that I know cost number two oh I feel like I up 70 bucks no what
01:06:42
between 385 and 6:30 stter console input One n is
01:06:49
someone's phone number wait can I get a stutter console for 70
01:06:56
$20 delivery for $90 you could get a studo console I thought this was about to be
01:07:02
like five digits I know what is going on but then why would you sell that on eBay that's what I was thinking that's true
01:07:07
oh yeah eBay I got to think this is cuz there's some like Standalone speakers that I've seen that I don't think are on
01:07:14
eBay well yeah I was going to not going to give it up now I got to be a competitive because I thought I had that one in the bag so headphones count yeah
01:07:22
yeah they make sounds I would argue that's their main Marquez I can't believe you won with
01:07:27
$400 on a vintage audio gear one me neither me neither okay we got two more
01:07:32
rounds left got anyone who you know knows vintage audio gear is just as
01:07:38
disappointed as I am by the way yeah yeah or finding that list well I guess
01:07:44
it's sold already and it's not it's not what I was looking for I was looking for like a stuter mixing desk with the rainbow knobs what kind of numbers were
01:07:50
you hoping for though I was looking for like eight grand DN okay so now we have
01:07:56
four keywords four keywords do you want me to repeat the ones that can't be used or actually no I don't I think you're
01:08:01
good yeah yeah uh and it's the same category same category for all of these yeah I'm hype teenage
01:08:08
engineering Oh wait we're still this is it's all audio oh yeah because then we lose more world let's go let's go let's
01:08:15
go baby synthesizer got to figure out how to
01:08:21
spell that got it that's three
01:08:26
op one it is op dash1 yeah op dash1 I'll
01:08:31
give that to you okay op das1 that's like what that's like it's not that much I'm playing it
01:08:38
safe here cuz I'm way behind and and well if you pick the right number you get the feel hoping yeah um okay I'm
01:08:45
going to go with the the seventh let's roll the dice
01:08:53
who seventh lucky number seven $750 $7.50 no $750 sorry okay you miss there
01:09:01
are some $1,500 ones in here though that's what I was hoping for all right wow 750 mhm yeah all right let's try
01:09:08
well I have like 772 because my JBL speaker was $22 all right oh oh it's
01:09:14
it's cumulative oh so oh okay so I'll shoot for you got let's try so for my
01:09:19
second round I got four words so I'm going senzer is
01:09:26
hd800s one word oh sh I would say that's one word because the op was one word but
01:09:32
the model name op1 specifically is op-1 where HD one unhyphenated let me I'm going to
01:09:40
looks like on sennheiser's website it's actually HD space 800 space s o that's
01:09:46
three but you could just do Sennheiser yeah no I'll count no no that's four
01:09:52
keywords that's four hd800s damn no Sennheiser siser
01:09:59
hd800 s so there you go that's all four all right they're going to be used but let's let's go
01:10:04
hd800s and let's go with the second
01:10:10
listing okay you dodged the bullet I did $9.99 I'm
01:10:17
$999.99 is it used that sounds like um it is pre-owned before that were replacement earpad cushions for the
01:10:25
that's always the danger with headphones yeah okay that was lucky that's good that's good all
01:10:33
right I'm I'm a little nervous about this I feel like I might get like an accessory oh no it's not yeah I was
01:10:39
thinking of microphone but we're going to go Fender okay first
01:10:46
keyword second word is Telecaster t l e Caster that's one word third word is
01:10:54
American didn't didn't see that coming but okay fourth word is
01:11:00
rare that's good that's a good word I wish I had used yeah rare is a good one for those of you for you to and Andrew
01:11:08
uh the Telecaster has been made in three countries or probably more than three but the three people talk about are
01:11:15
America Mexico and I forget we in Asia they make them like the Philippines or Japan or something like that and the
01:11:20
American ones are the popular ones M what's the number what's your
01:11:26
number I really don't want a guitar strap eBay think about eBay what would
01:11:33
show up on what are people listing on eBay is the first one like a spons no it's sold so there's no sponsored it's
01:11:38
only sold listings yeah so there's no sponsor I want number one H
01:11:44
$999.99 is it a Telly it's an American Telly for a th000 Fender American Standard Telecaster 1988 vintage rare E3
01:11:53
SS black guitar pre-owned okay nice what was number two from a
01:11:58
seller called jum pawn it so it sounds like it got pawned number two was just
01:12:03
the neck for $250 so nice Lu I can do better okay this one we're
01:12:10
going all right here we go damn last round I'm thinking about something that's probably too big of a risk I
01:12:15
don't think it's on day I'm going for something crazy risky on this ready five keywords out of five keywords okay
01:12:25
pleas sound I'm gonna go with Moog m o o g actually mini Moog everyone word send
01:12:34
him lots of emails about that do it don't this down is it mug am I
01:12:40
pronouncing it wrong it's mug like the root beer you you nailed it okay send him so many DMS oh it is one word yeah
01:12:46
yeah one word it's Moog Moog MH I've never heard it pronounced um I use
01:12:52
synthesizer already right okay so let me do have we used the word new I don't
01:12:57
believe so okay so new so that's two words right yes third
01:13:02
word or actually I do the new inbox so that's three words so
01:13:08
that's four now right I think I think it's on eBay for sure on eBay uh and
01:13:17
then military maybe
01:13:22
working but if it's new in box I couldn't have tested it yeah know I'm going to go with I'm just
01:13:28
trying to think of like a random fluff word that someone would put on an eBay SEO thing like we already used rare
01:13:34
condition condition yeah oh mini mug that's a good one what kind
01:13:39
of numbers you thinking here oh give me two uh I'm gonna or one um there is uh
01:13:48
Remington bikini trimmer a new inbox Mary Kay repair cleanser um Vortex men's
01:13:56
size 11 boots Jessica Rabbit doll peanut Snoopy watch Transformers a mini like
01:14:04
new in box like that would never turn up anywhere in the world but it's sold at some point it had to have been sold not
01:14:11
in the bo not new in box too rare it's too rare there are cuz even even when that thing came out there were I don't I
01:14:18
don't want to give an exact number but like an exceptionally small number you don't think any of them got resold well
01:14:24
because I don't really think it was the kind of thing that you could like you could probably go to a handful of music stores around the country and buy one
01:14:29
but for the most part they were selling them straight to Studios and labels and they were considered you know like professional Prof yeah like the musical
01:14:36
equipent of like a back ho you know like you could get one if you were doing serious work on your own but for the most part I did search just mini Moog
01:14:44
yeah and there was one sold March 6th 2005 in 2005 2025 sorry like two weeks
01:14:52
ago oh oh for how much $5,000 oh you no no don't don't give that to him
01:14:59
don't give that to him how does that not count because it didn't come up when with your keywords guess keyword are too
01:15:06
crazy yeah I think the conditions screwed you really really I mean one of these is like a conditioner I think oh
01:15:13
what about if you get rid of conditioner and type in mini Moog new in box oh yeah how about this I will give you the first
01:15:18
tech piece that actually showed up okay which is a Garmin oh but that sounds
01:15:25
well I guess speaker I guess it has speaker do you want the Demon Slayer figure instead yes how much is
01:15:32
that uh Am I Wrong are there new inbox mini mugs I cannot imagine one of those
01:15:37
exists that one said brand new so but inbox I wouldn't actually think it's new
01:15:42
in box if I'm buying it from eBay I'm just putting that out there no was new in box how you guys want item
01:15:49
do you want to give Adam no points or I leave this up to y'all what was the
01:15:56
last thing you just said give him that the the Demon Slayer yeah give him the Demon Slayer figure what if that's like 10
01:16:02
grand how much is the Demon Slayer Andrew it's 48 bucks all right if it
01:16:08
makes noise it makes noise it doesn't make noise okay I literally don't know what
01:16:15
to there's a lot of these that sorry Adam make noise but I'm not convinced they're on
01:16:24
eBay like the the wallpaper TV or the rollable TV oh yeah we're not getting really clever oh like specific products
01:16:31
that I know have speakers associated with them but that I don't know about
01:16:36
Slayer action do red cameras have speakers no uh technically yes but but
01:16:43
no I don't even know if I can primary function sound yeah I'm GNA narrow this
01:16:48
down definitely primary function of sound let me get Yamaha Dam grand piano oh
01:16:57
oh wow wood working damn I can't wait till this
01:17:04
is like a dollhouse replica this is pianos are notoriously either
01:17:09
ludicrously cheap or ludicrously expensive yeah I could get crushed on this listing but let's go with
01:17:20
the fourth listing here all right damn new
01:17:26
in box in box I don't like that Yamaha portable grand
01:17:32
piano $719 $719 yes what's a portable
01:17:37
grand piano it's all that came up there's no I don't think anyone's selling full-blown wood grand pianos on
01:17:44
eBay I guess that's more of a Facebook Marketplace I was hoping for one yeah it is okay all right I have a feeling that
01:17:51
I'm going to be in the same boat this is not something they sell on eBay but I am so tired that I literally can't think of
01:17:57
anything else so we're going to do it first keyword is three letters PMC
01:18:02
second word mastering third Word Stack fourth word complete fifth word
01:18:11
sub I feel like this is either going to be perfect or like a XLR cable yeah yeah
01:18:17
like the more words actually make it harder yeah it does did you hit enter I did I don't like that face it's not a
01:18:24
good I have yet to see something that plays audio
01:18:30
what okay so I guess this is not something that people are selling on what were you hoping it would be uh a
01:18:35
company called PMC that makes uh mastering I said of mastering speakers which cost about 160 Grand speaker oh
01:18:42
that's yeah that's not going to be on eBay I think you get mastering speakers upwards of 10 grand on eBay but once you
01:18:48
get that high I don't think you'll find it so expensive yeah oh it's 125 for the set I wrong not Hest dude even like
01:18:56
trying to find this is very hard really is it too Niche I also just want you guys to know
01:19:01
no one used the word speaker oh my God
01:19:10
so um yeah Ellis you got a bunch of Pokemon cards oh wait but those be
01:19:15
expensive yeah but they don't make sound is there literally a single thing there that makes
01:19:20
sound probably the The Beatles Yellow Submarine LP near mint copy mix sound
01:19:28
$162 that's still better than my pick I loose sound I lost the sound guy lost
01:19:33
this should have been my time to shine vintage audio gear here I am looking like a CH let me calculate I also if
01:19:39
anyone in the comments wants a to tell us some categories to do that would be
01:19:45
awesome but it's hard to say it to everyone because I don't want you guys looking at ones beforehand but I promise
01:19:51
you we're not going to Adam came in at first place
01:19:57
$820 Jesus Christ rookie numbers Marquez knows marz
01:20:02
came at $2,143 and Ellis came in
01:20:12
at 3,000 4,000
01:20:18
1,231 so Marquez is the winner of today's keywords game did it still need
01:20:23
some polishing on that thank you for all sticking around I think the basis of it is really fun I think the host is really
01:20:29
terrible and uh I want a rematch I want to rematch too I just want to give a shout out to the Grand pios on eBay a
01:20:36
lot of Steinway ones I could have picked 85 grand these are local pickup only
01:20:41
understandably but we got they're not going to ship it yeah no anyway that was
01:20:47
fun um I think the last thing we should do is swap everyone back let's do it
01:20:52
here I know my question you know question so Andrew should get his I'll just stay here yeah wait okay wait yeah
01:20:58
maybe this is it would be way easier to just go back swap back we should swap back okay we're going to we're going to take a quick break and when you come
01:21:05
back we will swap back for trivia okay we're back time to finish it
01:21:12
off with the trivia answers this week let's do
01:21:19
it acronyms question one the term Leaf from Nissan Leaf sir as a
01:21:25
backronym what is that [Music]
01:21:35
[Music] backronym do we decide if we were doing one point per or what what were we
01:21:41
saying it was whoever gets the most oh yes that's what it was whoever gets the closest or the most gets one
01:21:47
[Music] point all right
01:21:55
flip them and read what do we got they're bad oh okay oh we both said fun for
01:22:02
f so I my leaf was like electric and fun
01:22:09
like electric yeah and fun and fun oh the a was was I like that actually yeah
01:22:17
that is good but you got zero points on that zero damn I said long Electric abled Fun
01:22:24
also zero point what on Earth does flea stand for leading environmentally
01:22:31
friendly affordable family car hold on I
01:22:36
told you one of them was hyphenated say way more than four words not leading
01:22:41
leading environmentally friendly oh is a affordable
01:22:47
family car car is not included in apparently Nissan needs to learn what an acronym is that's tough that's rough
01:22:54
yeah Nissan negative one point it's technically Leaf okay question number
01:23:00
two the CFM International leap is a high bypass turbo fan just kidding just kidding I just assumed I
01:23:08
wasn't paying attention no what in Windows 10 could users spend a149 per month on in the
01:23:17
weirdest not weirdest just who puts microtransactions in a
01:23:23
computer this is Windows 10 which came out in
01:23:30
1996 just kidding it came out windows 10's the one before this one
01:23:35
I think are we on 12 yet no we're not on 12 we're on 11 I don't know this
01:23:43
one David might get this one did you put the same thing oh
01:23:48
essentially the assistant co-pilot I'm sorry I put Clippy no
01:23:55
unfortunately I'd pay a150 for clippy for clippy yeah feel like most people
01:24:01
pay $150 get rid of clippy no the correct answer was to disable ads in
01:24:06
solitire oh to disable there's ads in soliter and Windows 10 because they they
01:24:12
hate you I've played so much soliter and windows and I never saw ads I must not have played on Windows 10 it's probably
01:24:18
been a while since I definitely didn't have Windows I definitely didn't pay $149
01:24:25
soting well there you have it folks where is the ad in it like after or like you flip over a card and it's just the a
01:24:33
of Caribbean cruises like what does it say that's weird I can't imagine how
01:24:38
they would do that I just assumed it was a banner ad yeah there's just ads like when it says game over and there's like
01:24:45
the difficulty and stuff and your score there's just like this is just like a Zillow ad on the
01:24:51
side wow okay well yeah we learned something new about Windows maybe you knew that answer already and you were down in the comments furiously typing
01:24:58
away or maybe you've already typed away at what we should be calling our eBay keywords game or what you would have
01:25:03
typed in eBay to get the best highest numbers or maybe you're typing something else entirely whatever it is we'll meet
01:25:09
you in the comment section thanks for watching and listening this episode and we'll catch y'all next week see you
01:25:16
there peace and stop messaging me about cars you can keep going for is produced
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Episode Highlights

  • The Return of Pebble Watches
    Core Devices is bringing back Pebble-style smartwatches with impressive battery life and features.
    “A simple smartwatch that pairs to your phone appeals to all of us.”
    @ 05m 48s
    March 21, 2025
  • BYD's Fast Charging Tech
    BYD announced charging technology that can charge at peak speeds of 1,000 kW, doubling Tesla's speed.
    “250 miles of range on a 5-minute charge is impressive!”
    @ 16m 22s
    March 21, 2025
  • The Rise of EVs
    Electric vehicles are becoming more mainstream, with early adopters paving the way.
    “Teslas are everywhere and they feel pretty safe.”
    @ 22m 31s
    March 21, 2025
  • A Steal of a Deal
    A 2012 Nissan Leaf is listed for just $3,499, raising eyebrows about its value.
    “This 2012 Nissan Leaf is currently on sale for $3,499!”
    @ 26m 51s
    March 21, 2025
  • The Pixel 9A Delay
    The Pixel 9A launch is delayed due to a component quality issue, raising concerns.
    “It's always the small number that completely delays an entire launch.”
    @ 34m 20s
    March 21, 2025
  • Citizen Kane Debate
    A film major argues that Citizen Kane is overrated, sparking a lively discussion.
    “I just want to point out... Citizen Kane is frequently cited as the greatest film ever made.”
    @ 44m 53s
    March 21, 2025
  • Goodbye Google Assistant
    The team bids farewell to Google Assistant as it transitions to Gemini.
    “Goodbye officially to Google Assistant, lived a good life.”
    @ 47m 36s
    March 21, 2025
  • Google Wallet for Kids
    Google Wallet introduces a feature allowing kids to securely pay for items.
    “This makes sense because what if your kid's on a field trip?”
    @ 52m 26s
    March 21, 2025
  • Vintage Audio Gear Surprise
    A shocking win with a $400 bid on vintage audio gear!
    “I can't believe you won with $400 on vintage audio gear!”
    @ 01h 07m 22s
    March 21, 2025
  • The Final Scores
    The final scores reveal a surprising winner in the eBay keywords game.
    “Marquez is the winner of today's keywords game!”
    @ 01h 20m 18s
    March 21, 2025
  • The Keywords Game
    A competitive game where players guess eBay listings based on keywords.
    “I want a rematch!”
    @ 01h 20m 29s
    March 21, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • This is the coolest keyboard!
    What’s Going On with the Pixel 9A?
  • This 2012 Nissan Leaf is currently on sale for $3,499!
    What’s Going On with the Pixel 9A?
  • Don't let your dreams be dreams.
    What’s Going On with the Pixel 9A?
  • This is the smart home of the future!
    What’s Going On with the Pixel 9A?
  • I can't believe you won with $400 on vintage audio gear!
    What’s Going On with the Pixel 9A?
  • This should have been my time to shine!
    What’s Going On with the Pixel 9A?

Key Moments

  • Correction Time00:52
  • Pebble Watch Announcement05:09
  • EV Adoption22:31
  • Pixel 9A Delay34:20
  • Transition to Gemini47:56
  • Google Wallet Launch52:06
  • Final Scores1:20:18
  • Rematch Request1:20:29

Words per Minute Over Time

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