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Yo, what's up people of the internet?
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Welcome back to another episode of the
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Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm
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Marquez.
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>> I'm Andrew.
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>> And I'm David. And don't adjust your
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calendars. It's not actually Friday.
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This is a bonus episode of the Waveform
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Podcast. That's how you know it's not
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Friday is because you hear that not a
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regularly scheduled episode disclaimer.
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Uh but this is a fun one. We've got a
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bit of a not a game, but a fun thing we
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want to try and uh there's too much
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going on in the regular episode, so
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we're just going to do this as a bonus.
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So, take it away, Ellis.
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>> Yeah. So, before we get into it, we got
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to drop a quick disclaimer because
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normally week in week out, the Waveform
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production team works hard to make sure
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this is a familyfriendly
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show with no curses. However, due to the
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nature of this game, AITH, we will be
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saying the word
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a lot. So, get ready. This is the first
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uncensored episode of the Waveform
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podcast. All serious, maybe. I don't
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know.
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>> Can I test that right now?
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>> Yeah, it we we may end up blurt bleeping
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everywhere that's not asked. Anyway,
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moral of the story is if you have a
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child,
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>> listen to the music. If you have a child
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in the car, if you have a child in the
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room, if you have a child anywhere in
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the vicinity of this playing, plug their
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ears cuz it's about to get wild.
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>> I'm now wondering if you should bleep
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that first one cuz you said the word
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before you said tell your child to close
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their ears.
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>> Maybe you should just spell it out from
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this point forward.
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>> From this point forward.
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>> No kids.
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>> No kids.
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>> Yeah, I do get emails sometimes about
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like, I was listening with my kids. I'm
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like, oh, good to know. We warned you.
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>> Good to know.
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>> We warned you.
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>> When I when I came out of the womb, I
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said from this point forward, no kids.
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>> Wow. And so I still don't have kids.
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>> Staying true to your word.
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>> Could change. Could change.
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>> So what's the segment?
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>> For those unfamiliar, uh, am I the
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[ __ ] is something that I I would
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assume was started on Reddit. Maybe it
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was started
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>> subreddit. Yeah.
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>> On 4chan or something
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>> else, but essentially it's this acronym
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where you say, "Am I the [ __ ] if?"
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And then you tell a story and then
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everyone on Reddit goes, "Hey, you
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should probably get a divorce." Um,
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>> well, you didn't laugh when I made that
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joke earlier today. HOLY.
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>> That joke was brought to you by David.
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God damn it. I tweeted that six years
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ago, dude. [ __ ] All right.
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>> Um, so yeah, the way we're going to do
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this is we're just going to Adam and I
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are going to throw Am I the [ __ ] at
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our hosts?
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>> Techrelated ones.
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>> Tech. They needed to be techreated.
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Well, I'm just making the audience
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understand.
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>> Once you say the word tech ones, we're
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still a tech podcast.
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>> That's true. Nintendo Switch 2.
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>> Nintendo Switch.
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>> We're locked in.
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>> Some of these will be pulled directly
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from Reddit. Some of these will be just
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influenced or inspired by Reddit posts
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we saw. And some of them were made up by
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Adam and I. And some of them were made
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up by other co-workers. And for the ones
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that were made up by other co-workers, I
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will probably end up asking you which
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one of your co-workers do you think said
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it? It will not be for points. This is
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completely
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exhibition. I'm gonna try really hard
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though.
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>> I will win this exhibition.
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>> This first one I think many people have
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thoughts on. It comes directly from me
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and my own lived experience.
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Am I Ellis Roven the [ __ ] for still
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using Twitter instead of Blue Sky?
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>> No.
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>> No, I don't think so.
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>> Why not?
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>> What?
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>> Uh just by sheer numbers. I mean, unless
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you're calling everyone who still uses
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Twitter. Yes.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Oh, interesting.
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>> Oh,
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>> I'm just kidding.
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>> I mean, I would like a good
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justification for it, but I would say
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that Twitter is still the biggest texton
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social media platform.
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>> Oh, it's funny because Twitter would
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probably hate that you call them a
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texton social media platform because
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they're really trying to be video and
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paying for everything. Yeah, they're
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trying to be everything, but it's like I
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guess in the in the different like zones
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of the social media universe, I feel
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like there's Twitter threads, blue sky,
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all the other text first.
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>> I think he's saying that as proof how
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nostalgic you still are for Twitter.
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>> Really?
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>> Like old Twitter.
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>> I mean, that's that's what it originally
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was is just like 140 character SMS text
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only.
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>> I miss the old Twitter.
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>> Yeah, that was that was pretty original.
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No, Blue Sky. If it's if you have to be
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on Blue Sky to not be an [ __ ] then I
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guess that's the criteria.
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>> I want David.
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>> There's plenty of [ __ ] on Blue Sky,
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too.
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>> Oh, yeah.
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>> Sure.
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>> I think the the real answer is there
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just there's just no good social media
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anymore. Like all of it's bad now.
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>> I don't know. It's hard to It's hard to
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be anywhere, post anywhere without like
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if I go on Twitter because there are
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links that we send through Slack and
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whatever and there's like news updates
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and stuff. So, I have to read that and I
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have to read the comments and all this
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stuff. And like, man, when they say that
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that place has turned into like a Nazi
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porn bar, that's what a lot of it is.
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And sometimes I'll watch a I'll like
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click on a video on Twitter and it
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autoplays the next one and it's just
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straight porn.
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>> So, here's what I'll say about.
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>> Why not gay porn?
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>> This is really the first uncensored
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episode. Here's what I'll say about
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Twitter. I mean, I've I've kept using I
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I still use Twitter uh threads.
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I don't really We post on Facebook, but
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I don't really use it very much. But
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Twitter is still the best and worst at
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some things. It's still the best at
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current events happenings right now.
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When when the Super Bowl was happening,
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when All-Star weekend was happening,
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when the Blizzard was happening, it's
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like that was the what's happening
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place. Breds is trying to be that. It's
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not. It's trying. It's not there yet,
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but that's what I that's what Twitter's
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still the best at. And it is also the
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worst at like all the worst people are
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like if it's the biggest place. Yeah.
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>> Like there's [ __ ] everywhere but all
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the worst people are are also on
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Twitter. So it's like the easiest for it
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to be terrible.
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>> There's a lot of like Karens on threads
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though cuz they're all from Facebook.
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>> That's the thing.
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>> Yeah.
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>> They like unloaded a lot of people from
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Facebook. Yeah. It's hard. Threads is
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everyone has too individualized of an
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algorithm. Like everyone's experience on
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Threads is completely different. The
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thing that was so amazing about Twitter
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in the heyday and still does persist in
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a way on there is that there is a
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monoculture conversation going on
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>> where people are all talking about the
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same thing when like when the open cloth
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stuff was happening all you you seem to
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see that at the very tail end somehow
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>> the open claw stuff. Yeah.
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>> It was like my entire timeline for like
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a week.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So there there is more of a a mono
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conversation and I do miss that aspect
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of a social media platform.
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>> Um
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>> Yeah. Yeah,
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>> I think I think Twitter
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like good tweets have this this
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radioactive and succinct
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>> quality that Blue Sky posts just I
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haven't found.
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>> There are funny people on Blue Sky.
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>> There are Can I read you a tweet that I
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saw this morning that is still in my
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brain?
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>> Is it a tweet or a SK?
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>> It's a tweet.
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>> Okay.
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>> It's from Rich Decbels.
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SF guy eating a delicious blueberry
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colon. In 18 months everything will be
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blueberries.
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>> Like that's good. There's not on also
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Twitter is just San Francisco as well.
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That's the other thing. Everyone that
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posts on Twitter thinks that the entire
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world is San Francisco.
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>> Well, I think it's not
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>> I do think we are all in tech Twitter
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and so that is the specific, you know,
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monoculture we see. I think if you're
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not in the tech world, your Twitter
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looks different.
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>> Tech Twitter is probably way too close
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to a lot of other Twitters that are
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really sad. And that's I don't think
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you're an [ __ ] for using Twitter.
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>> I'm just way happier not using Twitter.
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like every time I go on it because like
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David said, "We're trying to figure out
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what to like talk about on the pod,
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>> I'm 10 minutes in, I'm just like I'm so
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bummed out right now." And there was
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maybe one funny tweet like that in there
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in the process of me getting really
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bummed.
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>> Damn. Well,
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>> seems like we have two, yes, you are the
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[ __ ] One, no, I'm not the [ __ ]
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>> You'd be a happier [ __ ] without it.
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>> Meaning I am the [ __ ]
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>> Yeah, I do wish Blue Sky had that juice.
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You know what I'm saying?
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>> Mhm.
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>> Yeah,
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>> we're all just This is this the only
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thing Marquez is nostalgic over
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>> old Twitter. No, Backyard B.
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>> But like
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>> Backyard Base for sure.
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>> I mean, that's not
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>> Marquez is like I will negate everything
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I've ever said in my life for Backyard.
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>> I know I was raing on nostalgia for a
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while, but backyard baseball is where
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it's at.
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>> All right, here's here's another sticky
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one.
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>> Sure. Am I the [ __ ] for switching to
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Android in an iOS family or friend
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group? And I feel like those are two
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separate answers.
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>> No.
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>> No.
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>> No.
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>> Depends on it depends. Depends.
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>> Everyone should be using third party
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messaging platforms anyway,
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>> but they're not.
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>> Well, actually, the perfect in a perfect
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world, RCS would actually work.
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>> Yeah. I texted David Pierce this morning
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who recently switched to an Android
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phone and it none of them got delivered
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and it said not delivered and it said
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RCS next to its noting those messages
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>> and then I messaged him on signal and I
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said hey
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>> did you get any of that and he said no
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and I said when did you switch to your
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intro photo he said a week ago.
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>> So the fact that it still hasn't fixed
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itself like this is the problem and it
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just keeps bringing you back. But I
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would say absolutely not freedom. So the
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reason I say it depends is if your
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family has a family group chat in like
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if it like if they like actively depend
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on it and use features from it like
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FaceTimes or like iMessage stuff all the
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time
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>> then that would feel worse.
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>> You know what I mean? like I I could
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still join a FaceTime from my Android
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phone, but breaking up the you know the
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family
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>> and
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>> especially now with Apple the Apple one
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family plans
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>> friends do not share iCloud storage but
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families often do now.
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>> Yeah.
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>> But then I guess you'd also be freeing
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up iCloud storage for your
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>> Yeah. You'd be on your own Google Photos
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life.
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>> Like I have an iCloud family plan with
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people who are just my friends.
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>> Yeah. Don't tell the world about
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>> Yeah, I guess you
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>> I don't know. We're We're still We're
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still We're still siblings of YouTube TV
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or Premium or whatever.
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>> I would say that the the analogy that I
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would make is Shell creating the whole
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carbon footprint thing to make
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individuals feel bad about their carbon
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footprint, whereas Apple is creating the
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problem to make individuals feel bad
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about switching to Android
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>> bars. So, it's Apple's fault. Apple's
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the [ __ ] not
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>> Yes.
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>> That's actually That's a great take.
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Apple is the [ __ ] I like that take.
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I've just never encountered an issue
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with this ever. Maybe because I've
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always just been on Android. Maybe
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because I have a bunch of family who's
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on Android.
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>> I've just never had a person text me and
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be like, "Why? Why are you on Android?"
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Or a friend never once.
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>> It's a one-way door.
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>> And maybe they're saying it behind my
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back and they're super nice to me, but I
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just have such a hard time believing
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there's all these this bullying going
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on.
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>> If you like switch to an iPhone, you'll
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see like this whole world of group chats
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that you were never in. I'm like, wo,
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>> it's like putting on the color block for
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the first time and I'm like, oh my god,
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blue.
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>> I switch all the time. And at one point
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when I switched from iPhone to Android,
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Jess had to make a brand new group chat
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with me and my family and she titled it
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Adam no longer has an iPhone. The title
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of the group.
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>> Hold on. It was just if you switch once,
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you switch every 3 months, you're the
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[ __ ]
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>> Yeah, but Adam keeps Adam keeps his
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iMessage off though. So the expectation
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is that he's never been on iMessage.
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Really,
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>> that's effort.
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>> I know that there's all this data that
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says that iMessage is not the only thing
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that keeps people on there. I'm pretty
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sure it's iMessage.
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>> It's the only reason why I'm still on an
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iPhone. So,
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>> while we're talking about Apple stuff,
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am I the [ __ ] I pay for the iCloud
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storage for my family and no.
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>> We keep running out of space. Am I the
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[ __ ] for telling my family to delete
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photos and videos, but I don't? No,
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>> you're paying for all of it.
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>> If you're paying all of it,
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>> I You're too nice.
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>> If you're going out to a If you're going
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out to a restaurant and you're paying,
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there's a certain amount that people are
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allowed to order before they're the
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>> That's such a good point. They just be
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like, "I got dinner tonight." And then
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your mom's like, "A5 wag you." Like,
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>> chill, mom.
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>> You're getting a roasted chicken at
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best, no drink.
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>> Yeah. Adam, you're not an [ __ ]
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You're a saint. Yeah, you're paying.
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>> Yeah. Well, it is hypothetical, but
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>> Well, all it is is an awkward It's an
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awkward conversation to have, though.
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>> It is.
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>> That's Or like, could everyone toss me a
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couple bucks for this thing none of you
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even really knows is a real thing
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because photos are just getting saved to
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it now.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. If you are in that specific
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situation, you have every right to ask
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the people participating to chip in so
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that they don't have to delete stuff.
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>> But if they're not going to chip in and
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you're the one paying, you're not the
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[ __ ] You tell them to delete some
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stuff.
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>> 100%.
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>> I agree.
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>> 100%. Okay. Nice. Not the [ __ ] This
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one's inspired by a Reddit post. Am I
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the [ __ ] for bringing my Xbox on my
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honeymoon?
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>> Divorce.
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>> So dependent on
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>> I don't want to get into the specifics
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of this person's relationship that they
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followed in the post. So just take this
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as abstract as you can.
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>> This is a person that would bring their
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Xbox on their hood.
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>> They wrote a They wrote so much stuff.
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>> What game are they playing?
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I don't
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>> if you're like if you're enga if you're
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married to this guy, shouldn't you know
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how much he likes playing? I don't I
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don't know.
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>> Wait, this is so
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>> I want I want to do this.
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>> I want to try and turn this into how do
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we make it okay to bring the Xbox on the
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honeymoon?
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>> If you have uh boundaries on when you're
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allowed
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>> I assume there's some issue that they
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will have with the amount of time that
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will be spent playing the Xbox versus
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doing other honeymoon. Yeah, just bring
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your Steam Deck, man. It's way easier.
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>> What's the portable Xbox to RG Ally? You
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got to get get one of those things.
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>> The RG Ally XG
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Xbox Ally X.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Um how is it like does he not sleep that
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much and maybe he's like, "Oh, I want to
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play some Xbox while she sleeps a full
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eight hours and relaxes and I'm a 4hour
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sleeper."
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>> Sounds like you're speaking from
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experience here.
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>> No, dude. No, I don't think my honeymoon
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had a TV in the the hotel.
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>> I do play Dota with a guy in Egypt who
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just had a kid and he plays with me when
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his wife goes to bed.
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>> That's fine. But did anyone see the clip
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of the guy who brought his Xbox to like
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the labor and delivery room and he's
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like getting handed the baby and he like
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takes his headset off?
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>> No way. That's not a parody.
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>> Has to be parody. It has to be parody,
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right?
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>> Otherwise, that's an addiction.
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>> That's crazy. I don't know. How long's
00:14:46
your honey? How long is the honey? Some
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people go on really long honey.
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>> That's true. That's true. But
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>> I'm trying here because it's so
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obviously the [ __ ] I'm trying to
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give him
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>> What if he has like a weekly meetup with
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like
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>> his brother's got raids.
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>> It's your honeymoon.
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>> He's got raids. He's playing WoW.
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>> That
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>> What if he's playing WoW and he's got a
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raids?
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>> He's the core.
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>> He could be the guild leader.
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>> Oh, wait. Xbox.
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>> Everyone changes their mind.
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>> I think you got to be able to find a way
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to
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>> How about communication? Let's start
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there. If you're if you're marrying
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anyone other than Princess Peach or
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Cortana, you don't need you don't need
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video games on your audio moon.
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>> I think she
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>> unless you're both playing, which then
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you would need to bring two Xboxes.
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>> Oh, yeah. Bring a controller. Bring an
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extra controller.
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>> How many clothes are you leaving behind
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>> to pack that? That's a lot. Like,
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>> yeah.
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>> That's a lot of
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>> It's the R Asus RG Xbox Alli X.
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>> All the Xboxes are pretty big.
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>> No, the the the S. The Series S is
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>> Xbox Series S is
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>> but that controller, power cables,
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audio, video cables, headset.
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>> Yeah, power adapter.
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>> There's a few exceptions, but
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>> you're the [ __ ]
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>> Probably not the coolest move to bring.
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>> Yeah, I wouldn't.
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>> What if she loves playing the game with
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you?
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>> That's different.
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>> I don't think this would be in Reddit if
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that was clear.
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>> Yeah, I guess so.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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>> No, PlayStation.
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>> Totally cool. Yeah.
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>> Also, I just don't think people on the
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internet should just be speculating
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about each other's relationships.
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>> This one is this one is straight from
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Reddit. And I'm going to read this one
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all the way through because this one is,
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"Am I the [ __ ] for connecting to the
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AirPod that my niece swallowed to see if
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it would play in her stomach?" When my
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three-year-old niece swallowed my
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sister's left AirPod, everyone started
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worrying right away. I was trying to
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lighten the situation. So, I connected
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the AirPod to my phone and put my ear on
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her stomach to check if I could hear it.
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Surprisingly, I actually did hear a
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little sound coming from inside her,
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which made the moment a bit funny to me.
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The people around us did not find it
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amusing. They all looked at me like I
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was I wasn't taking things seriously at
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all.
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I
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mean, I don't think you should have done
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that. Yeah.
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>> No, that's really funny.
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>> Like, I get the invasive thought, the
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intrusive thought. I get that
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completely. But but the problem was
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already that she swallowed a giant piece
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of plastic
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>> with a battery in it.
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>> With a battery in it. And like you just
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don't know what it's going to do if you
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play music through it while someone has
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it in their stomach, especially a young.
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>> You also, if you're just trying to
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lighten the mood for the kid who's
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potentially scared,
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>> you can just pretend you heard music.
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You can be like, "Oh, let me see if
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there's music playing." And just You
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don't have to go through the whole
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process. Counterpoint
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>> connecting to it.
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>> I understand the invasive thought
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though.
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>> Counterpoint. This was a purely utility
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based decision.
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>> Someone has to have it in their fine my
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just in case you can't find it.
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>> What? It's already It's the guy's AirPod
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already is going to He already
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>> Well, it's his girlfriend or wife's
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matter.
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>> What do What do you mean? I'm confused.
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>> They know she swelled it or they think
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she swallowed it. It seems like the It
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seemed like
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>> Was this to confirm that she swallowed
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it or they're like she definitely they
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were already seemed like you know he was
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like you know it would be really funny.
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>> While all of them are like what should
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we do? He was like I should play music.
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>> I thought it was like I think she
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swallowed the AirPod and they were like
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oh my god did she swallow the AirPod and
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he connected to it and was
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>> that's fair to definitely there or if it
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was like did they know already and have
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you seen that maybe it's not the utility
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anymore. Have you do you see I see that
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like Tik Tok Instagram real short form
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video thing that was like the music for
00:18:30
like funk for frogs
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>> with all the like no
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>> no
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>> okay someone knows what I'm talking
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about and they know that that's the only
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appropriate song to play in someone's
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stomach
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>> god
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>> I've seen David's stomach
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>> um I I feel like
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if he's has the time to do all of that
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they couldn't have all been that worried
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of the situation or they would have
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already been driving her to the
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hospital. No.
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>> Yeah. I don't know how how worried you
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have to be about
00:19:00
>> They're probably all searching what to
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do.
00:19:02
>> Well, it's like, should we wait for it
00:19:04
to come out or do we have to take her?
00:19:06
>> If Lane swallows an AirPod, I'm going to
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the hospital.
00:19:09
>> Yeah. Yeah. A three-year-old, though, so
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I don't know. I
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>> And listen, I understand in America that
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might automatically mean a bill that's
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literally like
00:19:17
>> terrifying. So maybe that's different.
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>> I would go to urgent care and get an
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opinion.
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Okay, that'll be like 5,000.
00:19:24
>> No, it wouldn't.
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>> Yeah, be like 10,000.
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>> I'd probably let the situation I would
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confirm everything's safe before I start
00:19:32
screwing around like that.
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>> Yeah.
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>> How do you even confirm that? You can't
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>> a doctor.
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>> A lit a doctor. I would wait till the
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doctor tells you to.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I thought you meant
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like while they're there trying to
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figure it out, you would confirm and
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>> and the doctor's like, "Are you sure she
00:19:45
swallowed it?" And he's like, "Yeah,
00:19:46
listen. Listen, listen. Does he hear
00:19:48
that?" Yeah, that's definitely in there.
00:19:52
took.
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>> Yeah.
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>> All right.
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>> All right. So, are we agreeing he's
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probably the
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>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:00
>> At first,
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>> it was a poor move.
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>> I I understand the intrusive thought. I
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do.
00:20:04
>> Just in poor taste.
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>> If it was like a fake scenario with like
00:20:07
a fake daughter, then yeah, I'd do it.
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>> But if it was a real daughter,
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>> no, they're not going to be a good good
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guy.
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>> All right. This one comes from someone
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in the studio. You guys can guess who
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after this.
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>> Mariah.
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after this. Am I the [ __ ] for
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correcting someone who said their phone
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has 256 gigs of RAM?
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>> Um, no, I would.
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>> Yeah, this seems targeted.
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>> I would do it instantaneously.
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>> Honestly, in this storage kind of has
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RAM, though
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>> if the context Okay, first the am I an
00:20:39
[ __ ] part?
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>> Not really. It's probably harmless that
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the person doesn't know the difference
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between storage and RAM as long as you
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didn't say it like an [ __ ]
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>> Yeah, that's what we just kind of a well
00:20:51
actually person which nobody really
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likes.
00:20:54
>> I think it's probably fine.
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>> People probably don't understand that
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everyone who works here isn't
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>> like a megaphone nerd. Like there are a
00:21:01
lot of people here who don't do what
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Yeah. Like
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>> they said RAM, they were right there.
00:21:05
They're so close.
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>> I think in us telling each other when a
00:21:08
mistake like that happens is beneficial.
00:21:10
So, we don't I mean, we're a company
00:21:13
that talks about tech a lot. So, yeah.
00:21:16
Say it nicely. I think everyone in here
00:21:18
knows how to say things nicely.
00:21:19
>> Say, well, technically it is like swap
00:21:21
memory.
00:21:21
>> Okay. What if it wasn't here? What if it
00:21:23
was just like out and about in life?
00:21:25
>> Oh, and like some random person was
00:21:27
like, "Yeah, my phone I think has 256
00:21:29
gigs of RAM." And you were like,
00:21:31
"Memory." I would just be like, "Story."
00:21:33
>> I'm the [ __ ] because I don't care
00:21:34
enough to correct them.
00:21:37
>> Yeah. I don't know. Here's here's the
00:21:39
followup is like I think you're right.
00:21:41
It's like understandable, but what if
00:21:43
someone uses the word memory when they
00:21:45
mean storage?
00:21:48
>> You know, there is I was thinking about
00:21:49
that. I think
00:21:51
>> I don't think this computer exists, but
00:21:52
I think there at some point was a Mac
00:21:55
Studio or something where you could
00:21:57
genuinely get either 256 gigs of storage
00:22:01
or 256 gigs of RAM.
00:22:04
>> Wait,
00:22:04
>> right. Isn't the Mac Studio you can get
00:22:06
like I think the minimum storage
00:22:09
And can you can you also get half terab
00:22:10
of memory?
00:22:12
>> So you could genuinely right
00:22:13
>> well you could
00:22:14
>> you could get both but it's like you
00:22:16
could say it to the person and they
00:22:17
could be like are you sure you mean
00:22:19
memory or storage and that is the one
00:22:22
computer where it actually matters.
00:22:24
Otherwise it kind of doesn't usually
00:22:26
matter.
00:22:26
>> You would know that.
00:22:27
>> Yeah. It's kind of a random oneoff
00:22:29
situation.
00:22:30
>> The whole thing of like calling storage
00:22:33
memory irks me so much. But I know
00:22:35
that's cuz I'm a turd and like I should
00:22:38
not go correcting people like that. But
00:22:40
there have been I've seen Walmart uh
00:22:42
like plaques in front of laptops that
00:22:44
say like 256 gigs of memory and it's
00:22:46
like that's just wrong.
00:22:48
>> So I guess it's a reasonable mistake to
00:22:49
make. It's fine.
00:22:50
>> I'm I'm never correcting someone in
00:22:52
public.
00:22:52
>> Is there like a colloquial tech spec on
00:22:55
phones that everyone used to call some
00:22:57
some spec and then it wasn't technically
00:23:00
correct but everyone would get upset.
00:23:01
>> Is that the XL mark? No, it was like
00:23:04
there was some spec that we called it
00:23:08
>> like a one inch sensor or something.
00:23:11
>> How it's not really one inch.
00:23:12
>> It wasn't that. It was like Yeah, maybe
00:23:14
we should just cut this. I don't
00:23:15
remember what it is. But I just remember
00:23:17
someone getting mad at me in the Android
00:23:19
Authority comments being like, "It's not
00:23:20
that." And I was like, "Yeah, but
00:23:21
everyone calls it that."
00:23:22
>> Yeah, I was going to say that. That's
00:23:23
the other thing is are online people
00:23:26
correcting us [ __ ] Not really
00:23:30
because you expect us to get it right
00:23:31
and it's important
00:23:32
>> but if it's just a random person out
00:23:34
there
00:23:36
not that important
00:23:37
>> I
00:23:37
>> Yeah.
00:23:38
>> Okay. Who in the off Someone in the
00:23:40
office corrected someone outside of the
00:23:42
office about
00:23:42
>> this came from someone in the office.
00:23:44
>> Okay.
00:23:44
>> They don't specify who they corrected or
00:23:46
anything like that. It's just this
00:23:47
wasn't a thing that happened and
00:23:48
>> hypothetical.
00:23:49
>> Yeah. Hypothetically.
00:23:50
>> Yeah. I just kind of think it makes you
00:23:51
a well actually kind of person.
00:23:53
>> The best kind of person.
00:23:54
>> Like that person probably doesn't even
00:23:55
know what RAM is.
00:23:57
>> Well actually they do know what RAM is.
00:23:59
Who?
00:23:59
>> No, I'm joking.
00:24:00
>> Oh,
00:24:01
>> it was Miles.
00:24:03
>> Miles doesn't know what RAM is.
00:24:05
>> He's a He has a Nexus 6P.
00:24:09
>> So,
00:24:09
>> doesn't need RAM.
00:24:11
>> Where we're going, we don't need RAM.
00:24:13
>> Uh, I'm going to say kind of
00:24:17
>> kind of.
00:24:17
>> Yeah, kind of
00:24:18
>> for saying it.
00:24:19
>> For just for correcting
00:24:21
>> for being the well actually guy that
00:24:22
nobody wants to be around.
00:24:24
>> What if they're telling you like I'm
00:24:25
about to go buy this thing?
00:24:27
>> Then I would correct them. Then I would
00:24:28
make sure they know.
00:24:29
>> Yeah, that's a good point.
00:24:30
>> This is like when my sister like texted
00:24:32
me that she bought a Mac Mini and I was
00:24:34
like, "Oh, you know you can buy the
00:24:36
higher storage one for the same price
00:24:39
for the next week, right? You should
00:24:40
return it and bring it back." She's
00:24:41
like, "No, I'm good." I was like, "What?
00:24:45
>> Oh no."
00:24:46
>> She's like, "What am I going to use the
00:24:47
storage for?" She's I was like, "It
00:24:49
doesn't matter. I don't know."
00:24:51
>> She's like, "I just go on websites." And
00:24:52
I was like, "Oh my god."
00:24:54
>> I guess she's fine. I guess she's fine.
00:24:56
This is also funny cuz this gets kind of
00:24:58
close to my Am I an [ __ ] but not
00:25:00
exactly.
00:25:01
>> Well, that's a great segue.
00:25:02
>> Should I just do mine?
00:25:03
>> Yeah, do yours.
00:25:04
>> All right, I brought one.
00:25:05
>> Am I an [ __ ] Am I the [ __ ] Tech
00:25:07
edition.
00:25:08
>> Okay.
00:25:08
>> Okay.
00:25:09
>> Okay.
00:25:09
>> So, you know how when people are out and
00:25:11
like hanging around socializing, just
00:25:13
randomly having conversations
00:25:15
>> outside. Never done
00:25:16
>> outside sometimes. Yeah. Uh they'll
00:25:17
touch grass and they'll be like, "Hey, I
00:25:19
wonder like why is the grass like this?"
00:25:22
Or like, "You ever wonder this random
00:25:23
thing?" and they'll just bring up a
00:25:24
random fact like you never know. And
00:25:26
then that will be like the fodder of the
00:25:28
conversation for like five minutes.
00:25:30
>> Yeah.
00:25:32
>> Every single time
00:25:34
>> you just look at
00:25:35
>> I take out my phone
00:25:37
>> and I look up the answer.
00:25:38
>> Yeah.
00:25:39
>> Cuz I feel like our conversation should
00:25:41
be about the answer instead of just kind
00:25:43
of wandering around. And I always wonder
00:25:45
like am I the [ __ ] for that? Like
00:25:49
>> no.
00:25:50
>> I know you want to just have a
00:25:51
conversation. This is meaningless. You
00:25:53
don't care what the answer is. But
00:25:54
wouldn't it be better if we had this
00:25:56
isn't Joe Rogan. We can get straight to
00:25:58
the point.
00:25:59
>> I hear you.
00:26:00
>> You know, I literally have had friends
00:26:01
be like, "We don't need to look it up.
00:26:04
We We just need to bathe in the magic of
00:26:06
of wondering.
00:26:07
>> I think it depends on the conversation,
00:26:09
>> but we have unlimited information.
00:26:11
>> We live in 2026.
00:26:14
We can just say it into the air and the
00:26:16
answer will appear." I understand the
00:26:18
value of like having this like maybe
00:26:20
maybe conversation and maybe you can
00:26:22
give that like 2 minutes.
00:26:23
>> I was going to say you should personally
00:26:24
set a timer.
00:26:25
>> What if we just go what does everyone
00:26:27
think it is?
00:26:29
>> That's actually usually how it goes.
00:26:31
Everyone will go like man how tall do
00:26:33
you think that giraffe is? Is that like
00:26:34
tall for a giraffe? And before you've
00:26:37
even finished thinking about it, I've
00:26:39
Googled the average height of a giraffe
00:26:42
cuz what good is the rest of our
00:26:44
conversation if it's if there's no basis
00:26:47
in reality.
00:26:47
>> Oh man, dude.
00:26:48
>> You know,
00:26:50
>> am I? You can tell me if I'm the
00:26:51
[ __ ] I I want to know. I'm
00:26:53
>> I can't I don't want to say [ __ ] cuz
00:26:55
I do the exact same thing.
00:26:57
>> That's But I It is kind of an [ __ ]
00:27:01
>> We can both be [ __ ] you. That's
00:27:04
such a good one.
00:27:05
>> Describe it is like
00:27:08
what is the value in comm continuing to
00:27:10
talk when we already know.
00:27:12
>> I was just imagining Marquez is like,
00:27:14
"Oh no, that's average for giraffe." And
00:27:15
then everyone just sits there quiet and
00:27:17
looks at each other. He's like, "Yeah,
00:27:18
we all know."
00:27:19
>> This is exactly how the Sunno CEO came
00:27:21
up with that. People don't actually like
00:27:23
making music. If you could just generate
00:27:25
music, wouldn't you just do that?
00:27:27
>> Yeah. Musicians famously hate making
00:27:29
music.
00:27:30
>> Yeah.
00:27:30
>> Yeah.
00:27:30
>> Yeah.
00:27:31
>> Yeah. I think people just like having
00:27:33
conversations and like speculating
00:27:34
randomly. But if there's like a real
00:27:37
answer, I just
00:27:38
>> I don't think it detracts from the
00:27:40
conversation. We could just like pivot
00:27:42
the conversation a little.
00:27:43
>> You can just stand in the corner with
00:27:45
the knowledge and let them kind of do
00:27:47
it.
00:27:47
>> I try sometimes. I try.
00:27:49
>> I'm imagining Marquez at bar trivia.
00:27:53
>> How is anyone getting this wrong? I can
00:27:55
type this so easy. Just
00:27:57
>> I wouldn't do this at bar trivia. I I do
00:27:59
like the idea of Marquez looking up the
00:28:01
answer and then just keeping it to
00:28:02
himself.
00:28:04
It's like the meme of the guy in the
00:28:06
corner.
00:28:07
>> They don't know.
00:28:07
>> They know I already know that.
00:28:09
>> I recently did that and then I waited
00:28:10
till the end of the conversation and
00:28:12
then I just spit out the answer and
00:28:14
nobody nobody cared. It wasn't valable.
00:28:16
>> Honestly, because I would that makes
00:28:20
>> in case anyone's wondering.
00:28:21
>> I let you peasants run in your in your
00:28:23
frivolous little circle like
00:28:25
>> Yeah. Yeah. You know how they say that
00:28:26
the argument's never about the dishes?
00:28:29
>> Oh, yeah.
00:28:29
>> The conversation's never about the
00:28:31
answer.
00:28:32
>> That's exactly right.
00:28:33
>> It's just about the It's about the
00:28:34
connection.
00:28:35
>> It just depends. Also, like if you're in
00:28:37
the middle of a conversation about, I
00:28:38
don't know, philosophy or something, and
00:28:41
then someone's trying to quote this one
00:28:42
philosopher, but they can't quite
00:28:44
remember the name, but that's not like
00:28:45
important to the point. I think it makes
00:28:47
you the [ __ ] to really quickly Google
00:28:49
that philosopher and be like, "Well,
00:28:51
actually, to your point, it was this
00:28:52
person, blah, blah, blah, but I but
00:28:53
continue, right?" you know, yeah, it's
00:28:55
about the broader conver, but if it's
00:28:57
just like,
00:28:58
>> who is that guy that said this thing?
00:28:59
Then yeah, just
00:29:00
>> it'll usually be a conversation where
00:29:02
the conversation is guessing about a
00:29:06
fact. Like,
00:29:08
>> right,
00:29:09
>> how far away do you think that mountain
00:29:10
is? It looks like it's so far away and
00:29:12
I'm already on Google Maps.
00:29:15
It's not like we were going to have the
00:29:17
conversation of being like, "Well, it's
00:29:19
super tall, but like usually buildings
00:29:22
look really tall when they're like far
00:29:23
away, but when it looks like the size of
00:29:25
the Empire State Building, like they
00:29:26
were going to have this whole
00:29:28
conversation and I sort of skip the
00:29:31
whole talking thing. We can just hit
00:29:33
move on."
00:29:34
>> Double tapped on the right side of the
00:29:35
screen. Yeah, I just fast forward.
00:29:37
>> I feel like Marquez is arguing for us to
00:29:39
call him an [ __ ] right?
00:29:41
>> I like this one cuz it's so nuanced.
00:29:43
>> This is so good. The problem is I do
00:29:44
this too. So if you guys decide that
00:29:46
it's an [ __ ] thing that
00:29:48
>> I think you're aware enough that makes
00:29:50
you not the [ __ ]
00:29:51
>> I just can't stop.
00:29:52
>> It sounds it's you're going to search no
00:29:54
matter what. You want to know the
00:29:55
answer. It sounds like you are aware
00:29:57
enough in the conversations to know when
00:29:59
to bring it up.
00:30:00
>> Um which in itself is being polite
00:30:04
enough for everybody.
00:30:05
>> Sure. Yeah. But now, anytime we're
00:30:07
talking, if I see Marquez just looking
00:30:09
like he's gonna like,
00:30:10
>> do you know that the meme where the
00:30:12
guy's like veins popping out of his
00:30:13
head? Like,
00:30:14
>> that's Marquez with the answer.
00:30:16
>> I have an extension of this that I
00:30:19
realize that I'm kind of an [ __ ] for
00:30:20
doing, but I want your guys' opinion.
00:30:22
>> Okay.
00:30:22
>> Okay. So, it's when like one of my
00:30:24
friends says something and I just don't
00:30:26
think it's true.
00:30:28
>> Mhm.
00:30:28
>> And I immediately look it up. And I'm
00:30:31
not like I do this all the time and I'm
00:30:33
like I don't really think that's
00:30:35
>> I literally did this to you on the
00:30:37
podcast this morning when you said I was
00:30:40
been using Final Cut 7. That's different
00:30:42
cuz we're trying to be trying to be
00:30:44
>> sure that was for trivia. Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:46
We're not proc.
00:30:47
>> Yeah. I just did it.
00:30:48
>> No. And so like I've had they will mock
00:30:51
me now every time I'm like every time
00:30:53
I'm like they're like I don't think
00:30:56
that's quite right.
00:30:58
It's complicated.
00:31:00
>> You got to like bring it up tactfully,
00:31:02
you know?
00:31:03
>> I'm like, I'm sorry.
00:31:04
>> It's, you know, if but if you don't do
00:31:06
it in that moment, then when it's eating
00:31:08
away at you later, it's way worse to
00:31:10
call them at 9:00 p.m. and be like, you
00:31:11
were wrong about this. And just hang the
00:31:13
phone up.
00:31:14
>> It's like here's here's my version of
00:31:17
this is like when someone you know posts
00:31:20
something on social media that you know
00:31:22
is factually inaccurate or worse,
00:31:25
miss/disinformation.
00:31:27
I would text them and say, "This is
00:31:28
wrong."
00:31:29
>> Because someone I know did that and I
00:31:31
with they posted something on their
00:31:33
story that was like so obviously like
00:31:35
that person did not say that.
00:31:37
>> You could just tell
00:31:38
>> and I wasn't like
00:31:39
>> I haven't posted in a while so I think
00:31:41
I'm okay.
00:31:42
>> Yeah. It wasn't anyone in this room.
00:31:43
>> Okay.
00:31:44
>> But it was someone who works here
00:31:48
>> on social media.
00:31:50
>> If I like really like them and know it
00:31:52
was probably by accident, I'll throw a
00:31:54
message. If I know it's probably
00:31:55
misinformation, I probably just unfriend
00:31:57
them because I'm so tired of that on
00:31:59
social media at this point.
00:32:01
>> I would always at least bring it up.
00:32:03
>> I did not. So, I guess I guess that
00:32:04
makes I thought I was not being the
00:32:06
[ __ ] by not bringing it up, but it
00:32:07
sounds like I was the
00:32:08
>> That sounds like there's so much nuance
00:32:10
to it.
00:32:10
>> No, there was nuance.
00:32:12
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:13
>> Yeah. And the relationship with the
00:32:14
person. Yeah. It's
00:32:15
>> Do you think that the misquote was like
00:32:18
You don't think it was intentional? I
00:32:20
know it wasn't intentional because the
00:32:22
commentary about the quote was like,
00:32:24
"Can you believe this person said this?"
00:32:26
To which I was like, "No way.
00:32:28
I cannot believe that this" And then
00:32:30
>> Yeah.
00:32:30
>> Yeah.
00:32:32
>> You know,
00:32:32
>> I'd bring it up to them.
00:32:34
>> I think facts are important. So, you
00:32:35
know, that's why I tend to Google things
00:32:37
way too soon.
00:32:38
>> Stand in the corner, let people talk.
00:32:40
Well, I think on that note, it begs the
00:32:42
question, am I the [ __ ] for taking us
00:32:46
to a quick ad break and letting every
00:32:47
known know that we'll be right back?
00:32:51
>> Uh, I'm going to have to look that up.
00:32:52
>> Okay.
00:32:53
>> Nah.
00:32:53
>> Well, while you look that up, we're
00:32:55
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00:33:10
All right. Well, we're back. Um,
00:33:13
welcome back to All right. I'm I'm not
00:33:15
doing that voice. This one comes from
00:33:18
blank in the studio. So, you guys have
00:33:20
to guess who it is, but I just find it
00:33:21
funny.
00:33:22
>> Mhm.
00:33:22
>> Am I the [ __ ] for saying nice to E
00:33:24
meet you?
00:33:25
>> Yes.
00:33:27
>> Jonno.
00:33:28
>> I don't think Jonno would do that.
00:33:30
>> No.
00:33:30
>> Eric. I thought that was Eric.
00:33:32
>> Nice to you. That's my least favorite
00:33:34
way. That's rich.
00:33:35
>> No, no. This person, sorry.
00:33:36
>> This person is asking if they're the
00:33:38
[ __ ] for hating people
00:33:40
>> who say nice to me.
00:33:42
>> Oh, no.
00:33:43
>> No. I hate everyone who says that.
00:33:45
>> If I see the email and it says that, I
00:33:46
delete it immediately.
00:33:49
>> I don't go that far, but I'm It's
00:33:51
immediate sour taste like as I And I
00:33:53
almost assume they do not care about the
00:33:55
email.
00:33:56
>> Like, who are you, Vince surf? Like, did
00:33:57
you just receive the first email ever?
00:34:00
If it's
00:34:01
>> I swear to God
00:34:03
>> is that do you guys see it differently
00:34:04
as the opening email to you that says it
00:34:07
or when someone gets added to an email
00:34:09
where a conversation's been going on and
00:34:11
the other person like feels kind of
00:34:12
awkward coming into the conversation
00:34:14
they're like oh hey nice to meet you
00:34:16
just say me I don't care
00:34:17
>> yeah just I feel like is fine
00:34:19
>> meet or just like be introduced
00:34:22
>> I had like an inerson version of this
00:34:24
recently so fun fact when we went and
00:34:26
shot the Rivian R2 we went out to
00:34:28
California me and Miles and there's a
00:34:30
couple all the YouTubers there, Doug
00:34:31
Demir was there, went up and said, "Hey,
00:34:32
Doug, good to see you." He said, "Nice
00:34:33
to meet you." I was like, "Oh, we
00:34:36
haven't met.
00:34:36
>> You guys have never met in real."
00:34:37
>> And I in that moment realized we'd never
00:34:39
met. And I I I do this to other people
00:34:42
all the time where I'll go, "Hi, good to
00:34:44
meet you." And they'll go, "Good to see
00:34:45
you again." And I'll go, "Shit." I
00:34:47
>> It's cuz you're the safest possible
00:34:49
thing. I don't know if you've met
00:34:51
>> Exactly. So, I've just erased nice to
00:34:52
meet you. And I never say nice to meet
00:34:54
you ever to anyone. I just say good to
00:34:56
see you.
00:34:57
>> There's always a chance.
00:34:58
>> It's the power move.
00:34:59
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, nice to em you is kind
00:35:01
of weird.
00:35:01
>> I often say it's great to finally meet
00:35:03
in real life.
00:35:04
>> Yeah. Or just nice to finally meet you
00:35:07
is like a we like
00:35:09
>> Yeah.
00:35:09
>> I'm surprised I haven't met you yet.
00:35:11
>> What if we met already and you don't
00:35:12
remember?
00:35:12
>> Then I'm an [ __ ]
00:35:14
>> What if you already em them but not
00:35:16
Yeah. Not IRL meat.
00:35:19
>> Yeah.
00:35:20
>> Yeah. I There's obviously a difference,
00:35:22
but you don't have to say emat.
00:35:24
>> That's my I'm not mad if someone says
00:35:26
it, but I'm not like
00:35:27
>> I don't like it.
00:35:28
>> Yeah. It's whatever. farmerseemeat.com.
00:35:31
>> I prefer saying thank you for gracing my
00:35:33
digital sanctum.
00:35:35
>> Jesus,
00:35:35
>> that's never mind. Say emat. Please say
00:35:38
e.
00:35:39
>> What would you rather?
00:35:40
>> No, e is awful.
00:35:41
>> Do you want to guess who is so pissed
00:35:42
off by the phrase nice to e meet you
00:35:44
that they felt the need to
00:35:46
>> I would guess at that point Jonno cuz he
00:35:48
just has the most emails.
00:35:49
>> It's not Jonno and it's not Mariah.
00:35:50
>> Is it?
00:35:51
>> I don't think Mariah gets that pissed
00:35:52
off about anything.
00:35:53
>> Nice to eat you.
00:35:55
>> I feel like almost everyone would hate
00:35:56
that. Did Did Eric hate that?
00:35:59
>> I could see Eric doing the like semi
00:36:01
Seinfeld joke about it at lunch.
00:36:03
>> Is it Vanna?
00:36:04
>> Feels very obvious to me, but maybe it's
00:36:06
cuz I know the answer. Nope.
00:36:07
>> Who gets email?
00:36:08
>> Harper hated that.
00:36:09
>> No.
00:36:09
>> Wow. Who's left?
00:36:11
>> Michael.
00:36:12
>> No.
00:36:13
>> I wish it was Marquez saying.
00:36:16
>> Tim.
00:36:17
>> Tim.
00:36:18
>> Tim. I see you.
00:36:19
>> I could see that.
00:36:20
>> Tim and I get annoyed at the same
00:36:21
things.
00:36:22
>> Everyone email Tim and just say hi. Just
00:36:24
meet you. Tim at MV slacking that later.
00:36:27
Um,
00:36:29
>> here's another one from inside the
00:36:32
house.
00:36:33
>> That was bad. That was a bad joke.
00:36:34
>> It's coming from inside.
00:36:36
>> That was so bad. Would I be the [ __ ]
00:36:37
for checking my phone while watching a
00:36:39
movie at home with someone without
00:36:41
getting a notification first?
00:36:43
>> Yeah.
00:36:44
>> Okay. So,
00:36:46
>> you're at home.
00:36:47
>> Yeah, you're at home. You're just
00:36:49
checking just to see.
00:36:50
>> You're just checking cuz limbs. Describe
00:36:53
checking. Describe checking. Just like
00:36:54
unlocking locking.
00:36:55
>> This person spe Does anybody mention you
00:36:57
are not scrolling?
00:36:59
>> You are unlocking.
00:37:00
>> Yeah, you're just
00:37:00
>> you're unlocking. See no notifications.
00:37:02
Turned it off. Put a face down again.
00:37:05
>> Sure.
00:37:05
>> I don't think it makes you an [ __ ]
00:37:07
because it's it's like a we've been
00:37:08
accustomed. We
00:37:09
>> You're just a modern human.
00:37:10
>> Yeah.
00:37:11
>> Unfortunately,
00:37:12
>> you're checking the extension of your
00:37:13
body.
00:37:14
>> Aren't all modern humans [ __ ]
00:37:16
>> We're just
00:37:17
>> You're just alive in 2026. I mean,
00:37:20
everyone like unlocks their phone and
00:37:21
locks it being like, "What the heck am I
00:37:23
doing?" all the time. So, I don't think
00:37:25
that that makes you an [ __ ]
00:37:26
>> Not during a movie.
00:37:27
>> I think the fact that during a movie you
00:37:29
put the phone down and went, "Am I an
00:37:31
asshole?" I think that's enough that
00:37:32
you're not an [ __ ]
00:37:33
>> Looking up something,
00:37:34
>> awareness is key in a lot of these. It
00:37:36
feels
00:37:36
>> I don't know. Like just using an app
00:37:38
separately from the movie. I think
00:37:40
you're kind of an [ __ ]
00:37:40
>> I think you're not the [ __ ] but I
00:37:42
think if you're thinking about it,
00:37:44
you've realized that like, man, I need
00:37:46
to work on my phone behavior. I'm
00:37:48
willing to die on this hill.
00:37:50
>> I don't think you can pull your phone
00:37:52
out even for one second, even for one
00:37:55
frame of a movie and still say you
00:37:58
watched the movie.
00:38:00
>> There's not a sing if you
00:38:01
>> I think the movie should be better and I
00:38:03
shouldn't want to pull my phone.
00:38:04
>> If you're watching a movie,
00:38:05
>> there's no slow parts of movies.
00:38:06
>> I'm not saying you can't like blink. No,
00:38:08
but it's Dude, the amount of times I've
00:38:10
been like, "Yo, I'm really excited to
00:38:12
show you this movie." and someone
00:38:16
and there's just there's not a single
00:38:17
two seconds that I would say like yeah
00:38:20
you could miss those you know so
00:38:22
>> that nothing man
00:38:23
>> it's like when I'm having a conversation
00:38:24
with someone and then they just start
00:38:26
texting someone and I'm like damn
00:38:28
>> oh I do that all the time I know
00:38:29
>> we're all cooked with these Orion glass
00:38:32
>> oh yeah I'm totally watching this movie
00:38:37
>> yeah if you tell someone to watch a
00:38:38
movie but they're wearing their Meta
00:38:40
Orion smart glasses
00:38:42
>> that's Should we do that next Cuz that's
00:38:44
that's also wait real quick. So they you
00:38:46
are an [ __ ] for pulling your phone
00:38:47
out. I'm overriding you.
00:38:48
>> Am I an [ __ ] for any reason during
00:38:50
the movie?
00:38:51
>> Am I an [ __ ] for owning meta display
00:38:54
smart? Yes.
00:38:54
>> If we're at your house and we're
00:38:56
watching a movie that you wanted to
00:38:58
watch, you can pull out your phone and
00:38:59
do it all the time. But I'm if I'm
00:39:01
watching a movie,
00:39:02
>> I will say movie theater dark tons of
00:39:05
other people don't pull your phone out
00:39:06
at all.
00:39:07
>> Like even just a real quick look at it
00:39:10
is like a flashbang going off. I feel
00:39:12
like don't a life hack, which last time
00:39:15
I said life hack, someone put it in a
00:39:17
clip and said David's top productivity
00:39:19
hacks, which is insane cuz I'm not a
00:39:21
productive person. And it was literally
00:39:23
making my bed in the morning and they
00:39:25
made turn into a YouTube clip for some
00:39:26
reason. Anyway,
00:39:28
>> when you were like, "I feel so much
00:39:30
better to have your bed made when you
00:39:31
get
00:39:31
>> and then someone made a YouTube short."
00:39:33
>> It's not a life hack. That's actually
00:39:34
something that takes more time.
00:39:35
>> Productivity hack.
00:39:37
Anyway, uh I think people should be
00:39:41
should use do not disturb way more than
00:39:43
they they do currently.
00:39:44
>> Yeah,
00:39:45
>> I am so liberal with that do not disturb
00:39:47
button. As soon as I start watching a
00:39:49
movie with a friend, do not disturb.
00:39:51
>> Yeah, these phones over here do not
00:39:52
disturb.
00:39:52
>> Go to dinner. Do not disturb. I saw I
00:39:54
saw a screenshot on Twitter of someone
00:39:56
who in their email signature, like the
00:39:58
automatically generated email signature,
00:40:00
it said, "I only respond to emails on
00:40:03
Tuesdays between 7 and 8 and Thursdays
00:40:05
between 7:00 and 8:00 p.m."
00:40:07
>> Which was like,
00:40:08
>> "Looks like I'm not emailing that
00:40:09
person."
00:40:10
>> That's sick. I could never do that. But
00:40:12
that's sick as hell to just be like,
00:40:14
"Listen, you're going to hear from me.
00:40:16
>> Like, I'm out this time. I'm outside
00:40:17
your house trying to deliver this
00:40:19
package. Where are you? Sorry, I only
00:40:21
just email. Just email." I like that
00:40:23
because if you don't, then you know,
00:40:25
okay, I sent this email. Oh, it's
00:40:27
Tuesday at 9:00 now. I ain't getting an
00:40:29
email back,
00:40:31
>> you've lost already.
00:40:32
>> That's a that's a good policy for
00:40:34
someone who doesn't get that many
00:40:35
emails, I will say.
00:40:37
>> All right. But Marquez, you did bring up
00:40:38
a good thing. So, I want to talk about
00:40:40
VR headset usage because so many of
00:40:42
these
00:40:43
>> VR
00:40:43
>> so many of these things got passed
00:40:45
through. Oh, AR, XR. You
00:40:46
>> want to talk about the glasses or the
00:40:47
headset?
00:40:48
>> Talk about the headset for the headset.
00:40:49
I don't know. Someone in the office
00:40:51
asked
00:40:52
>> Vision Pro on the
00:40:53
>> Would you be the Yeah. Would you be the
00:40:55
[ __ ] for end of the day bed scroll
00:40:58
with your partner doing it in a vision?
00:41:01
>> Yes.
00:41:03
>> This is That's Yes. It's just like the
00:41:06
Apple ad where they're just like
00:41:07
watching a movie on the Vision Pro
00:41:09
together.
00:41:09
>> Well, is is your mouth open or closed
00:41:11
when you're doing this?
00:41:13
>> Hey. Hey. But
00:41:15
you're in the you're in bed with your
00:41:17
partner. You want to watch something.
00:41:18
They're asleep inside of it.
00:41:21
>> No, no, no. That's not the That's
00:41:22
>> You said bed scroll.
00:41:24
>> That's true.
00:41:24
>> But I think it sort of implied that it's
00:41:26
a that that your partner's awake.
00:41:29
>> Oh, okay. I was going to say because
00:41:31
there's so many times I'm watching TV
00:41:32
while Claire falls asleep. And in that
00:41:34
scenario, the TV is on and the whole
00:41:36
room is bright because I'm watching the
00:41:38
TV. So, using a VR headset might be the
00:41:41
more polite way of doing it.
00:41:42
>> I've seen that argument.
00:41:43
>> Unless she wakes up and sees me in a VR
00:41:45
headset and then it scares the ever
00:41:46
living piss out of her. seen that
00:41:48
argument. I've also seen the argument of
00:41:50
well, if you're like late night gaming
00:41:52
or like doing or watching a movie, for
00:41:54
example, while
00:41:56
your partner's trying to sleep, but you
00:41:58
want to watch a movie, you have the
00:42:00
headset on and this and the headphones
00:42:02
on so that you're not waking up the
00:42:03
person sleeping.
00:42:04
>> That is the opposite of being an
00:42:06
[ __ ] It's very courteous of you to
00:42:07
put a headset on.
00:42:08
>> Yeah. But it's still crazy. But but the
00:42:10
what you're describing which is the
00:42:12
which is a group activity the late
00:42:16
about to go to sleep scroll where you
00:42:18
show them something and they're like
00:42:19
laugh laugh then I think you you have to
00:42:22
take the headset off.
00:42:24
>> You can't share that with them.
00:42:25
>> Yeah.
00:42:25
>> Unless you have what's the feature where
00:42:27
they can see the same thing?
00:42:29
>> Share spaces. Unless you're doing that
00:42:31
then you're really modern.
00:42:32
>> I don't think ever I don't think anyone
00:42:34
has ever done that outside of the Apple
00:42:35
campus.
00:42:36
>> I do once a year for the briefing.
00:42:38
>> Yeah. for the breed.
00:42:39
>> And I'm like, "Oh, we can play chess in
00:42:40
Vision Pro." And then I'm like,
00:42:44
>> "Yeah, maybe play chess in real life."
00:42:46
>> A lot of these relationship ones can
00:42:48
usually be done with just talk to your
00:42:50
partner before you do the thing. It's
00:42:52
probably way easier.
00:42:54
>> Or before you do the thing. Yeah,
00:42:55
>> I have one that's inspired by our very
00:42:57
own Ellis. So Ellis, you cannot
00:43:00
>> partake in this one. Okay. My packages
00:43:03
keep getting stolen from my apartment,
00:43:05
so I installed a Ring camera. My
00:43:07
neighbor then complained that he doesn't
00:43:09
feel comfortable because it's pointed
00:43:10
right at his front door, but I refuse to
00:43:12
remove it.
00:43:13
>> Am I the [ __ ]
00:43:14
>> Yes.
00:43:15
>> No.
00:43:16
>> Isn't Whoa.
00:43:17
>> Ellis saying this from the position of
00:43:19
his neighbor.
00:43:20
>> I didn't write this.
00:43:20
>> No, I wrote this. Yeah.
00:43:22
>> Yeah.
00:43:22
>> I'm saying it's inspired by Ellis's
00:43:24
story he told a couple weeks ago.
00:43:25
>> Okay. What's interesting is even though
00:43:26
this literally happened to me, like I am
00:43:28
literally that guy. Was that guy? That
00:43:30
neighbor no longer is my neighbor. But
00:43:32
um so none none of my current neighbors
00:43:35
ever better put up a ring camera because
00:43:36
it'll happen to you too. You'll also be
00:43:38
a former neighbor. But um uh but uh I'm
00:43:42
I'm not even sure that they're the
00:43:44
[ __ ] You know,
00:43:45
>> I think if the explicit problem was
00:43:47
their packages keep getting stolen, then
00:43:50
that is a valid attempt at dissuading or
00:43:53
solving or getting a that's like the
00:43:55
best way to like get a picture of the
00:43:56
person at your door. It happens to
00:44:00
>> like an apartment. In my situation, it's
00:44:02
it's a like where it's I'm at sort of
00:44:04
like the corner of a hallway and so
00:44:05
there's two doors perpendicular to one
00:44:08
another. So their doorbell being like on
00:44:10
their door
00:44:11
>> faces right at your door.
00:44:12
>> Faces right at my door. They I am
00:44:15
realizing at this moment they could have
00:44:16
gotten one of the angled hullers so it
00:44:17
it goes across their door
00:44:19
perpendicularly and then we look at a
00:44:20
wall. So maybe
00:44:21
>> Yeah, but what's it going to stop if it
00:44:22
looks at a wall?
00:44:24
>> Yes.
00:44:25
>> What's a ring camera going to stop?
00:44:26
>> Or not stop. You're going to see who's
00:44:27
stealing it.
00:44:28
>> You know, there's a 50% chance they
00:44:30
think you're stealing the packages,
00:44:31
right?
00:44:32
>> Look at me. I mean, it does kind of
00:44:33
sound like, hey, they take out your ring
00:44:35
care. But first of all, I just want to
00:44:37
say there's
00:44:38
>> proof at how ridiculous all this is.
00:44:40
They still got all of their mail stolen
00:44:42
with the ring. So,
00:44:43
>> now they have a photo of the person.
00:44:45
>> I know the guy was like like no one
00:44:48
would ever commit a crime when those
00:44:50
cameras everywhere.
00:44:51
>> An accent. A plus.
00:44:53
>> That was my dumb guy accent. Yeah, maybe
00:44:55
it sounds very New York.
00:44:58
>> I think that if I was if I was that in
00:45:01
that neighbor's shoes and I was like,
00:45:03
"Dang, I keep my packages keep getting
00:45:05
stolen and I don't I'm going to keep
00:45:07
getting packages. What is the most
00:45:08
productive thing that I can do in this
00:45:10
case? I can't like prevent the packages
00:45:13
from being stolen if they keep getting
00:45:14
delivered, but I can get a literal photo
00:45:16
of the person who's stealing the
00:45:18
packages and then maybe get that to the
00:45:20
police or something like I can do I can
00:45:22
do something here with a ring camera. I
00:45:23
was set a trap.
00:45:24
>> But then if your neighbor comes, okay,
00:45:25
Mark Grover, but then if your neighbor
00:45:27
comes and says like, "Hey, this bothers
00:45:29
me."
00:45:30
>> Then he could be like, "Hey neighbor, I
00:45:31
understand this bothers you. What's been
00:45:33
bothering me is all my packages getting
00:45:34
stolen." So maybe we could collaborate
00:45:37
here on like a solution that works for
00:45:38
both of us. too. Man, I know you said
00:45:41
I'm not allowed to try, man. And I felt
00:45:42
really bad because I No, I I
00:45:46
>> Yeah,
00:45:48
>> that you could put a ring camera, you
00:45:50
know, facing not my like there is a
00:45:52
there is a way.
00:45:53
>> That's a good claim.
00:45:54
>> I should have I should have proposed
00:45:56
that. That that was on me. Also, I live
00:45:59
in the same building
00:46:00
>> and I just don't ship stuff there.
00:46:02
>> Yeah, I was going to say
00:46:03
>> not everyone has that benefit of being
00:46:05
able to like get it to their work. is
00:46:08
>> depends on what you order.
00:46:10
>> There's ways to figure this out.
00:46:11
>> Yeah. Yeah. PO boxes.
00:46:13
>> Yeah.
00:46:14
>> If that guy was stealing that person's
00:46:15
pack,
00:46:16
>> this guy definitely thinks stealing the
00:46:17
package.
00:46:18
>> I really I really hope I really hope
00:46:19
these neighbors these former neighbors
00:46:21
who were really really great neighbors
00:46:23
don't hear this.
00:46:25
>> If I if I had my packages stolen, put up
00:46:28
a Ring camera, and immediately my
00:46:30
neighbor was like, "Can you take that
00:46:31
camera down?" I would be like, "Oh my
00:46:32
god, I know who's doing it now." That's
00:46:34
>> I'm definitely reading it up.
00:46:37
Yeah.
00:46:37
>> I'd be like, "Oh, it's a fake camera."
00:46:40
And then it'd be on and then I'd watch
00:46:41
Ellis steal my packages.
00:46:43
>> That's what he was probably hoping. He
00:46:44
was probably shocked when it wasn't
00:46:45
Ellis stealing the package.
00:46:46
>> It's a tough one. I think also in a
00:46:48
situation where you're living in like an
00:46:50
apartment complex or whatever where
00:46:51
doors are so close, it's like a It's
00:46:55
tough to figure stuff out like that.
00:46:57
>> But I still wouldn't I still even though
00:46:59
I was the one agrieved by the situation,
00:47:01
I still would not say you're the [ __ ]
00:47:02
for doing that. I Maybe it's just
00:47:03
because I I like these people.
00:47:06
But um
00:47:07
>> don't backtrack now. You were just
00:47:09
threatening them 10 minutes ago.
00:47:11
>> We just know that they're not
00:47:12
>> Listen, I love all their packages were
00:47:15
great.
00:47:17
>> I didn't steal any packages.
00:47:19
>> If if it's all about intent, then I
00:47:21
would say the intent is is not bad.
00:47:24
>> They're not an [ __ ]
00:47:25
>> Oh, it's the [ __ ]
00:47:27
>> I can throw mine out if we're ready for
00:47:29
another one.
00:47:30
I
00:47:32
>> had a hard time thinking of mine because
00:47:34
I think I'm extremely unconfrontational.
00:47:36
So, I'd rather just not be the [ __ ]
00:47:40
>> But then
00:47:40
>> sometimes not being the [ __ ] makes
00:47:41
you the [ __ ]
00:47:42
>> Well, probably. I also say I can't think
00:47:45
of any, but that doesn't mean that no
00:47:46
one else can think of one. Cuz Marque
00:47:47
has thought of one immediately. Um,
00:47:50
which is I don't I think people in this
00:47:52
room will agree with me. I'm not the
00:47:54
[ __ ] But I think the reason they'll
00:47:55
agree with me probably makes me more of
00:47:57
an [ __ ] And I'll explain that in a
00:47:59
second.
00:48:00
>> Marquez said, "Well, you do use a
00:48:02
mechanical keyboard inside the studio
00:48:03
with other people who work here."
00:48:04
>> You're the [ __ ]
00:48:05
>> A lot of people online call me the
00:48:06
[ __ ] for that.
00:48:08
>> I think the reason you guys might not is
00:48:10
because I've probably convinced all of
00:48:12
you guys to also use mechanical
00:48:13
keyboards in the studio, which makes me
00:48:15
a bigger [ __ ] because now lots of
00:48:18
people use mechanical keyboards.
00:48:19
>> There's no such thing as silence in this
00:48:21
studio.
00:48:22
>> There's already enough sound pollution
00:48:23
all the time that it just kind of fades
00:48:25
into the background. Sure. There's like
00:48:27
a den of the studio now of like the
00:48:29
HVACs and the mechanical keyboards and
00:48:31
the the dog footprints or whatever the
00:48:33
pitter patter there's kind of like
00:48:35
always a little bit of noise.
00:48:36
>> There were only like five of us. It was
00:48:37
like eerily quiet sometimes. You'd be
00:48:40
like, you know, doing this on your desk
00:48:42
>> and I'd just be like typing and be like,
00:48:44
>> "Nobody's talking. It's super weird. I
00:48:47
can't talk to Adam."
00:48:48
>> Yeah. He would just text me like, "What
00:48:50
do you think they're thinking about?"
00:48:52
>> You can know when someone's really in
00:48:54
the zone, too, cuz it's just
00:48:56
Yeah, I'm picturing uh what's that Apple
00:48:58
TV show Severance? You know, like a
00:49:00
workspace like that where it's like just
00:49:01
stark and like one person has a
00:49:04
mechanical keyboard. That would be
00:49:05
pretty bad. That would feel like you're
00:49:08
making too much noise.
00:49:09
>> So, I'm not the [ __ ]
00:49:11
>> because I gave you all enough keyboards
00:49:13
to make it not solely my fault anymore.
00:49:16
>> You You helped increase the noise floor
00:49:19
enough that you didn't you weren't such
00:49:21
an outlier anymore. So, yeah, you're not
00:49:23
the [ __ ] Yeah. I have a feeling out
00:49:26
of everything we've talked about in the
00:49:27
comments, I'm going to get [ __ ] on the
00:49:29
most right now. People really get all
00:49:31
the studio videos we've made about
00:49:32
mechanical keyboards is a lot of people
00:49:34
being really mad at me for even thinking
00:49:37
about using one in the office.
00:49:38
>> It's very satisfying. That's like the
00:49:40
See, every hobby has this. It's like
00:49:41
people who like loud cars. It's like,
00:49:42
well, all your neighbors hate you, but
00:49:45
if all your neighbors had loud cars,
00:49:47
you'd all be chill. The thing about a
00:49:49
loud car, because I am one of those
00:49:50
neighbors that hates loud cars,
00:49:52
>> is don't. It's the time of day. If it's
00:49:55
2 p.m., I'm running to the window to see
00:49:57
what car it is.
00:49:58
>> Sure.
00:49:59
>> If it's 2:00 a.m., you're an [ __ ]
00:50:01
>> Yeah, that's valid. That's valid.
00:50:03
>> Hot take. That's how I feel about people
00:50:05
who play music out of speakers on the
00:50:06
subway.
00:50:08
>> They're all people are like,
00:50:10
>> "Oh, like it's so disruptive." It's so
00:50:12
like
00:50:13
>> not if it's Yeah. Do you hate music?
00:50:15
>> Like what is wrong with you? Is it 100%
00:50:18
[ __ ] if you're the music on speakers
00:50:21
on a hike guy?
00:50:22
>> Yes, I was 100%.
00:50:24
>> Especially in like a national park
00:50:26
that's like a you're probably spending a
00:50:28
lot of money to vacation there and it's
00:50:29
like for the serene sounds and then
00:50:31
there's just Creed playing like in the
00:50:34
distance. You know,
00:50:35
>> my like favorite part about national
00:50:36
parks is how many times you can be in a
00:50:38
scenario where like I don't think
00:50:39
anyone's within miles of me and then
00:50:41
yeah, if
00:50:44
hits the
00:50:47
the switchback coming up. It's just
00:50:49
shitty music.
00:50:50
>> But on it's like it's not like I want to
00:50:52
hear the subway, you know, like
00:50:55
>> am I the [ __ ] for interrupting you to
00:50:57
take us to another ad break?
00:50:58
>> Oh,
00:51:00
there
00:51:03
trivia
00:51:03
>> misinput
00:51:05
misfire.
00:51:06
>> We'll be back after these messages.
00:51:17
All right, welcome back. I have one that
00:51:19
has plagued people for generations. Um,
00:51:22
probably only one generation because
00:51:23
that's how old the technology is. Uh,
00:51:26
okay. Location sharing.
00:51:28
>> This is a very widely debated topic.
00:51:31
>> This is
00:51:32
>> if you don't want to share your location
00:51:34
with your partner
00:51:35
>> Mhm.
00:51:36
>> and they really want you to,
00:51:39
does that make you an [ __ ] The
00:51:41
simple question is why?
00:51:44
>> That is the only question.
00:51:45
>> I mean for me,
00:51:46
>> you're saying why do you not want to
00:51:47
share?
00:51:48
>> No. Why do they want it so badly?
00:51:50
>> Interesting.
00:51:51
>> Well, maybe that's just me asking that.
00:51:52
>> But here's the crazy thing is like the
00:51:54
reason I don't like sharing my location
00:51:56
really with anybody is just because I
00:51:58
just don't think anyone has the right to
00:51:59
have my location ever. Just as a
00:52:01
principal thing
00:52:01
>> except daddy Google.
00:52:02
>> Well, that's what I wanted to ask. Is is
00:52:05
Sergey Brin? You know where I am
00:52:07
anytime. Come on, Sergey. is part of
00:52:09
your hit me with your drone
00:52:10
>> reasoning is like giving uh apps the uh
00:52:15
approval to like track your look which I
00:52:16
guess they kind of app
00:52:20
I just don't like the idea
00:52:21
>> you mean like find my like find friends
00:52:22
or whatever yeah because there have been
00:52:25
scenarios before where someone I I like
00:52:28
the plausible deniability you know
00:52:31
>> don't use that as your reasoning because
00:52:33
>> that's not my reason I'm just okay that
00:52:35
that isn't my reason but I just want the
00:52:38
the option. That isn't my reason. But
00:52:40
just imagine I mean there's there's a
00:52:42
lot of reasons. Okay. I just don't like
00:52:44
anyone being able to just like open
00:52:46
their phone and be like, "Oh, David is
00:52:47
right here right now."
00:52:49
>> There's Yeah,
00:52:50
>> I just don't like that.
00:52:50
>> I I'm with you. I I I think there's very
00:52:53
much two types of people and I've
00:52:54
observed both types. Type one is like
00:52:56
they open the thing and there's a map
00:52:57
and there's 40 dots on there and they're
00:52:58
like, "Let's see who's doing what." I'm
00:53:00
like, "What? What is happening?"
00:53:01
>> Yeah. Like
00:53:02
>> And then the other half is like, "Don't
00:53:03
ever look for my dot on a map. That's
00:53:06
insane."
00:53:06
>> Yeah.
00:53:07
>> Yeah. One thing worth bringing up here
00:53:09
though is that for me personally, I know
00:53:11
a lot of women in my life like using
00:53:13
location sharing because it's like a
00:53:14
safety thing. Absolutely.
00:53:16
>> So in that case, it could be that
00:53:18
they're asking for like cuz that's how
00:53:20
they think about location sharing, you
00:53:21
know.
00:53:22
>> So that's a oneway.
00:53:24
>> Can you do a oneway? Okay.
00:53:26
>> Yes. So that would be that's one thing
00:53:28
that would be like I would like someone
00:53:30
like my friend to know my location for
00:53:32
this amount of time or for forever
00:53:33
whatever for as long as they want.
00:53:35
That's cool. It's someone else
00:53:36
requesting my location and me not
00:53:39
wanting to.
00:53:39
>> Yeah. But see, here's the problem. If
00:53:40
it's if it's your partner and your
00:53:42
partner says, "I want you to have my
00:53:43
location all the time."
00:53:45
>> Then you're kind of Are you an [ __ ]
00:53:47
for being like, "But I don't want you to
00:53:48
have mine."
00:53:50
>> Where you trying to go, man?
00:53:51
>> It doesn't look great. I can tell you
00:53:53
that.
00:53:53
>> I don't know. The forest. I'm just
00:53:54
saying like
00:53:55
>> I'm just saying like
00:53:56
>> like what's the big deal here?
00:53:58
>> No, because I don't I just It's just a
00:54:00
principles thing, you know? Generally,
00:54:02
>> I will say
00:54:03
>> this is
00:54:03
>> it's very much like the
00:54:06
I think it's safe to say if the answer
00:54:08
is ever it's a principal's thing. And
00:54:11
this is coming from somebody who's a
00:54:12
pretty principled person.
00:54:13
>> If it's ever it's principal thing,
00:54:15
you're probably the [ __ ]
00:54:16
>> No, there's
00:54:18
there's another version of this which is
00:54:20
like I don't want these companies spying
00:54:22
on me to give me good ads. Like and it's
00:54:24
very much just like the only benefit to
00:54:27
that is better, more targeted ads for
00:54:29
me, but it's a principal thing. I don't
00:54:30
want the company to know all this
00:54:32
information about me.
00:54:33
>> And it's not shady. and they'll always
00:54:35
go, "Oh, well, what's the worst that
00:54:36
could happen? What's the what are you
00:54:37
hiding?" It's like, "I'm not hiding
00:54:39
anything. It's just a principle. I don't
00:54:40
want you to know anything about me." But
00:54:42
now, when we flip it, it's like,
00:54:43
>> "I don't It's a principal thing." It's
00:54:45
It's kind of the same thing. I'm not
00:54:47
hiding anything.
00:54:47
>> Yeah. You're not wrong for that.
00:54:49
>> Yeah. Like when like on the iPhone when
00:54:51
you log into a new app and it's the ask
00:54:53
ads not to trap or track or allow like
00:54:55
more discrete targeting and it's like
00:54:58
>> if you do not like ask ads not to track,
00:55:01
it's really just because of your
00:55:02
principles. I just hit it by default.
00:55:04
>> I would say you are the [ __ ] but you
00:55:07
are also right, if that makes sense.
00:55:09
>> Interesting. Damn.
00:55:10
>> Like you're allowed to be right and be
00:55:11
the [ __ ] in this situation.
00:55:13
>> I like that nuance.
00:55:14
>> I think it's insane that we have as a
00:55:16
society just completely normalized like
00:55:18
always know where everyone is. Like that
00:55:20
anonymity is a blessing and I it's
00:55:22
insane that we've gotten rid of that.
00:55:24
But now because so many people have
00:55:26
bought into it, you become the friction
00:55:28
point if you are the one that's like,
00:55:31
>> you know.
00:55:32
>> Yeah.
00:55:32
>> So
00:55:33
>> Claire and I never did it until we had
00:55:36
Lane. And now knowing the other person
00:55:38
might be with Lane in a scenario. Now we
00:55:41
both have location tracking on in case
00:55:43
it's like Claire and Lane went out to do
00:55:45
this and I haven't heard from them in a
00:55:46
little while. Can I double check it?
00:55:49
>> In terms of doing it previously, we
00:55:51
never asked. The only I would just be
00:55:53
really embarrassed by it because Claire
00:55:55
would probably log in and be like he's a
00:55:57
Taco Bell again like god damn it I was
00:56:00
making dinner tonight but um
00:56:02
>> yeah I will say I used to be a just like
00:56:05
never never never person I have slowly
00:56:08
started like just giving people access
00:56:10
to my location.
00:56:10
>> I think there's a level to it too. How
00:56:12
long have you been with the person? Like
00:56:14
if we're on date two and they're like
00:56:15
let's turn on location track and I was
00:56:17
like oh my god. Well, no. Yeah. No. I
00:56:20
mean, yeah. No. No. No.
00:56:21
>> Okay. Question for you because I haven't
00:56:23
been on iPhone in a while.
00:56:24
>> Can you set like Can you give them
00:56:27
permission for a certain amount of time?
00:56:28
>> Yeah, you can. Okay.
00:56:29
>> You can do it for an hour until a
00:56:31
certain time or indefinitely.
00:56:32
>> Cuz I know you can do it in Google Maps.
00:56:33
I'm not sure if you could do it
00:56:34
>> 1 hour, 24 hours, or indefinitely.
00:56:37
>> No, it's 1 hour end of day indefinitely.
00:56:40
>> So, you can't be like, "Here's my week."
00:56:42
So could Oh,
00:56:44
>> you have to turn it on every week or
00:56:45
turn it off after a week of indefinite.
00:56:47
>> Yeah.
00:56:48
>> Which is
00:56:49
>> you just look like that guy.
00:56:52
>> Exactly.
00:56:54
>> Yeah.
00:56:54
>> You do indefinite and then it's just
00:56:56
like
00:56:56
>> I would say if you're going to ask
00:56:58
somebody to turn on their location
00:57:00
tracking for you, you should probably
00:57:01
have a
00:57:02
>> somewhat of a reason why you say it.
00:57:03
Like if you're going to be the person to
00:57:05
go out and ask, you should be like not
00:57:06
just can you turn your location tracking
00:57:08
on or like do you mind if you turn it
00:57:09
on? It'd be nice if I saw you were in
00:57:11
traffic on the way home and I know not
00:57:13
to start to be like stuff like that. If
00:57:15
they can give a legitimate reason, then
00:57:17
it's really hard to say no to and then
00:57:19
you
00:57:21
>> look squirming over there.
00:57:24
>> Just the thought of sitting in my car
00:57:26
and someone looking at my location
00:57:28
without me knowing.
00:57:29
>> Would it be fun if your phone just lit
00:57:30
up blue every time someone looked at
00:57:32
your location? Just like boom, someone
00:57:34
checked your location.
00:57:35
>> At least I would know.
00:57:36
>> Good idea.
00:57:37
>> Yeah, I would be okay with it actually.
00:57:39
It's like in Japan how they mandate that
00:57:40
your phone makes a really loud camera
00:57:42
snap noise when you take a photo to stop
00:57:44
people from peeping.
00:57:45
>> I wish it did that because I just the
00:57:47
what I don't like is not knowing that
00:57:50
people are looking at me.
00:57:51
>> Yeah. The color of the light is the
00:57:53
person who checks your location. So if
00:57:54
it's blue every time you're like, "Oh,
00:57:56
that's that's my spouse. That's totally
00:57:57
fine." Yellow tonight.
00:58:00
>> I just thought we were talking about
00:58:01
only your like significant other, right?
00:58:03
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally.
00:58:04
>> I don't understand why everyone wants to
00:58:06
have all their friends on. My girlfriend
00:58:08
and I share our locations with each
00:58:09
other. And for Valentine, Shut up.
00:58:13
>> And for Valentine's Day, I like cooked
00:58:15
her this big dinner that was a surprise.
00:58:17
And
00:58:18
>> but this funny thing did happen
00:58:20
>> where she was like she texted me and she
00:58:22
was like
00:58:23
>> like I was going to a butcher to go get
00:58:26
>> ribs. Like really nice.
00:58:27
>> Why are you at a butcher?
00:58:28
>> Damn. Really nice ribs.
00:58:30
>> Well, no, but because it's like I needed
00:58:32
them cut a really specific way that I
00:58:34
didn't have the tools to to do myself.
00:58:36
Also, I needed to go to a butcher that
00:58:37
was nice enough where I could be like,
00:58:38
"Listen, I need you to, you know, handle
00:58:41
this for me."
00:58:43
>> The sound.
00:58:45
>> Yeah.
00:58:46
>> Anyway,
00:58:46
>> the butcher.
00:58:47
>> Anyway, she texted me. She was like,
00:58:49
"What are you doing tonight?" And I was
00:58:50
like, "Oh, I'm just going to go home and
00:58:52
work out." Blah blah blah. And then she
00:58:54
was like, "Then why are you here?"
00:58:57
>> I was like, "Uh,
00:59:00
>> that's what I'm talking about."
00:59:01
>> It's for a surprise. That's That's like,
00:59:03
why do you use incognito mode in
00:59:04
browser? So I can surprise my spouse.
00:59:08
>> I think it was I I think it's cute to
00:59:10
think that my girlfriend's like, "Oh, I
00:59:11
wonder what Ellis is up to." And then
00:59:13
she's like, "Oh, it's so he's in New
00:59:14
Jersey again." Like,
00:59:15
>> yeah.
00:59:16
>> Yeah. Damn, he came to Jersey.
00:59:19
>> No, no,
00:59:20
>> yeah. I don't know.
00:59:20
>> I just come to Jersey like most of every
00:59:23
other
00:59:24
>> I'm just saying like als Yeah. I don't
00:59:25
know. There's a lot of things too that
00:59:27
it's like if I had a spouse who was too
00:59:30
who is the kind of person who wants to
00:59:31
like look through my text or something,
00:59:33
I would never give them access to Well,
00:59:36
first of all, I would never date someone
00:59:37
who look through my text.
00:59:38
>> I also feel like that's a little
00:59:39
>> that's the other thing. Okay, here's the
00:59:40
B side of this. Okay, continue.
00:59:42
Continuation, right?
00:59:44
>> Yeah.
00:59:45
>> Um, okay. Bside.
00:59:46
>> I have another disclaimer. Never take
00:59:50
any any at all relationship advice from
00:59:54
a technology podcast. I repeat, never
00:59:57
take any relationship advice ever from a
01:00:00
technology podcast.
01:00:01
>> Okay, here's another PR here's another
01:00:03
principle.
01:00:03
>> Get all of your relationship advice from
01:00:05
Brian Johnson's Twitter.
01:00:08
>> That's also a technology podcast, by the
01:00:10
way.
01:00:10
>> Uh, all right. Here's here's the B side
01:00:13
to this is the if your partner asked to
01:00:18
look through your phone, even if you had
01:00:20
nothing to hide, would you let them do
01:00:22
it?
01:00:23
>> Yes.
01:00:23
>> Claire has all my passwords.
01:00:27
>> I gave Jess all my passwords and
01:00:28
everything just in case something
01:00:30
happens.
01:00:30
>> There's like no but like
01:00:32
>> so she can delete my history.
01:00:35
>> It's the same thing. I just need a Y.
01:00:36
That's all
01:00:38
>> of like why.
01:00:39
>> It's like why do you want my location?
01:00:40
If you have a good why, then sure. Like,
01:00:42
why do you want to look through my
01:00:43
phone? If you have a good why, then
01:00:44
sure.
01:00:45
>> Well, for me, it's it's less like
01:00:46
they've looked through my phone. More
01:00:48
like we were driving at one point and
01:00:50
she had to go through my phone to get
01:00:51
something.
01:00:52
>> Oh, that's if I give her the phone. I'm
01:00:54
not going to change the password after,
01:00:55
you know, like she just has it.
01:00:57
>> I think David's saying like an
01:00:58
accusatory like I need to look through
01:01:00
your phone.
01:01:00
>> Then that's the
01:01:02
problem look worse, but
01:01:05
>> but your principal,
01:01:05
>> it's a principal's thing.
01:01:07
>> I mean, it does make you look worse.
01:01:09
It'll make you look great and them bad
01:01:11
when they look through it and the thing
01:01:12
they're accusing you of does not happen.
01:01:14
>> Yeah, it makes them look bad.
01:01:15
>> That's true.
01:01:16
>> That's true.
01:01:16
>> If they're accusing That's tough.
01:01:21
>> I'm very thankful I have not gotten into
01:01:23
any of these scenarios. Clearly,
01:01:24
>> I've also never been in the scenario.
01:01:26
I'm just It's It's an interesting mind.
01:01:28
>> Okay. What about a scenario we've all
01:01:29
been in? Would I be the [ __ ]
01:01:32
>> taking a bath? Would I be the [ __ ]
01:01:35
for confronting my friend for sending me
01:01:37
too many reels per day?
01:01:39
>> Okay, so I'm making this joke, but for a
01:01:41
while I definitely was that [ __ ] to
01:01:43
Ellis. I sent him so many reels. I think
01:01:46
it was cuz when I first deleted Tik Tok,
01:01:49
one of the first reels I probably ever
01:01:51
sent to Ellis was probably some insane
01:01:53
food one. And then Instagram was like,
01:01:55
"I got you. I'm only going to send you
01:01:58
really weird memes about like meat and
01:02:00
cigarettes and like creed." And I was
01:02:03
like, I have to send every one of these
01:02:04
to Ellis. And then after a while, he
01:02:06
stopped responding and I was like, I
01:02:07
should get off Instagram.
01:02:08
>> Physically, I'm 12, but spiritually I am
01:02:11
like a divorced dad. Like, you know,
01:02:13
like creed, cigarettes, and meat, maybe.
01:02:16
It does seem like I don't know if this
01:02:17
was in our interview with Adam Miseri,
01:02:19
but like when he said he said before
01:02:20
that like the share button is one of the
01:02:22
strongest signals in Instagram reels. It
01:02:24
really feels like when I share a reel
01:02:29
with someone, Instagram goes, I got a
01:02:31
lot more of that. And if I sent
01:02:33
something, then it's starts sending me
01:02:35
more of the thing that I sent to
01:02:36
someone,
01:02:37
>> hoping that'll send it to more people
01:02:39
because it's something I would share.
01:02:40
>> So I I think yeah, probably once you
01:02:42
sent that first one, they were like, I
01:02:43
got more of If you flip that on its
01:02:45
head, are you the [ __ ] for never
01:02:48
liking the reels that someone just keeps
01:02:49
sending you
01:02:51
>> and just like scenez?
01:02:56
>> I would say like you got to there's a
01:02:59
there's a little give and take on both
01:03:01
of these. Like clearly if people are
01:03:02
sending reels to each other, they they
01:03:04
think it's funny and are genuinely
01:03:06
thinking about them. But if you're
01:03:07
sending five or six and not getting a
01:03:09
response back, maybe you gotta tighten
01:03:11
up the parameters of a shareworthy reel
01:03:15
and then make them hit home.
01:03:17
>> Maybe you're not there for the 100%
01:03:18
engage rate. Maybe you're just there for
01:03:20
the open rate.
01:03:21
>> Quantity over quality. What if they're
01:03:22
all totally a real thing? Waveform has
01:03:24
300 episodes. There's probably like
01:03:26
seven good ones. We're
01:03:28
>> we're proof.
01:03:29
>> Here's something that's crazy to me is
01:03:30
that there are not like DM group. Like
01:03:33
there's group chats,
01:03:35
>> but there's not like DM lists, right,
01:03:37
where you see a real, you hit send, you
01:03:39
can send it to a list, and it
01:03:40
individually sends it to the all those
01:03:42
people, right?
01:03:43
>> And yet, I have an acquaintance from
01:03:46
college
01:03:47
>> that I had like a class with. We have
01:03:49
not spoken in a really long time
01:03:53
>> and he still sends me reels and I have
01:03:56
not answered in six years.
01:03:59
>> This is payback because you you won't be
01:04:00
on his phone, my friends.
01:04:03
I'm just like, so he has to find my name
01:04:05
and send it to me and like we haven't
01:04:07
spoken in six years,
01:04:09
>> but every time he sees a real and he's
01:04:11
like, Dave is going to like this one.
01:04:13
>> How how do you even know who I am at
01:04:15
this point?
01:04:16
>> We're very different people.
01:04:18
>> Anyway, it is crazy.
01:04:19
>> I'm never going to call the person the
01:04:20
[ __ ] for sending all of it because I
01:04:22
appreciate
01:04:24
thinking of me.
01:04:25
>> I think it's even better.
01:04:26
>> I start feeling bad when I
01:04:28
>> The question is, are you the [ __ ] for
01:04:29
confronting them about Oh.
01:04:32
You just got to be like, "Hey, man."
01:04:34
>> What's confronting? Is it like, "Hey,
01:04:36
man. Stop sending me those reels." Or is
01:04:38
it like, "I'm sorry, dude. I just don't
01:04:39
have time to
01:04:40
>> Whatever it means to you." Whatever it
01:04:42
is in your heart,
01:04:43
>> not the [ __ ]
01:04:44
>> I think a confrontation in this
01:04:46
>> confrontation seems mean.
01:04:47
>> It is sort of, but I think I'm I I
01:04:50
probably, and I guess this does make it
01:04:52
the [ __ ] move, but I feel like in
01:04:53
that situation, I probably would be
01:04:55
like, "Dude,
01:04:58
>> that's it. That's the whole thing. What
01:05:00
are you doing?"
01:05:00
>> Here's the thing. if they're if they
01:05:03
keep sending them and don't get
01:05:04
responses back and they keep sending
01:05:06
them, they don't care. They obviously
01:05:08
don't care. So, like,
01:05:10
>> yeah,
01:05:10
>> I'm not hurting anyone if he all I have
01:05:12
to do is then click red every time. And
01:05:14
>> if they sent you a bunch of reels and
01:05:17
you didn't respond and confronted you
01:05:20
and were like, "Hey man, you didn't
01:05:21
answer my reels." That's weird.
01:05:23
>> That's the weird one. Don't do that.
01:05:26
>> Yeah. But if they keep sending it even
01:05:27
when you don't when you just scenezone
01:05:29
them, then they've eclipsed shame
01:05:31
already.
01:05:32
>> They're just going to keep doing it.
01:05:33
>> Yeah. They just want to send you a real
01:05:35
>> I think for most people the act of
01:05:36
consuming reels is so brainless that
01:05:38
also like
01:05:40
>> sharing them is like
01:05:42
Right. Yeah.
01:05:43
>> Yeah.
01:05:44
>> Which actually, you know, you're right,
01:05:46
Marcus. Like it literally is designed to
01:05:48
just be like tap tap and then like you
01:05:49
share the real. That's funny that that's
01:05:51
the most powerful signal on on
01:05:53
Instagram. Like
01:05:53
>> it's because it's social. Well, but
01:05:55
that's because reals is so little brain
01:05:58
power that those two taps is 800 times
01:06:00
more engagement than anything else you
01:06:02
would do with scrolling and liking.
01:06:04
>> Yeah, I'll toss a like to a random reel.
01:06:06
But if I if I thought it was funny and
01:06:08
specifically that's why they start
01:06:09
surfacing more, it's cuz I I engaged two
01:06:12
layers deep with this reel. I liked it
01:06:14
so much that I thought of a person who
01:06:16
would also like it and I sent it to them
01:06:18
and then that person's going to watch
01:06:19
it.
01:06:20
>> That's a pretty good signal.
01:06:21
>> Yeah.
01:06:22
>> So, I got 30 more of those reels. There
01:06:24
you go.
01:06:25
>> All right, let's do let's do a few more
01:06:27
and then we can wrap it up.
01:06:28
>> This first one,
01:06:30
>> am I the [ __ ] for making my friends
01:06:32
guess whether a given GFuel flavor is
01:06:34
real or not more than once?
01:06:37
>> I think for us, no for Vergecast, yes.
01:06:41
>> Yeah, Dan Z was not happy with us
01:06:43
>> and he still whooped me in it.
01:06:46
>> Okay, guys. Would I be the [ __ ]
01:06:50
Little switching it up.
01:06:51
>> Switching up. Would I be the [ __ ] for
01:06:53
using chat GPT to write someone a
01:06:56
birthday card?
01:06:57
>> Yes.
01:06:58
>> No.
01:06:59
>> Whoa.
01:07:00
>> Not by default.
01:07:02
>> Mhm.
01:07:02
>> Not by default.
01:07:04
>> Explain.
01:07:04
>> However,
01:07:05
>> how would you make it not an [ __ ]
01:07:06
move?
01:07:07
>> So, writing someone a birthday card is
01:07:10
already a very high effort thing to do.
01:07:12
>> Not a lot of people get birthday cards.
01:07:14
So, if you're going through the effort
01:07:16
to not just like text them happy
01:07:18
birthday or write on their Facebook wall
01:07:20
because Facebook told you it was their
01:07:21
birthday, you're mailing them a card.
01:07:24
>> That's already eclipse the threshold of
01:07:26
effort
01:07:27
>> to not be an [ __ ]
01:07:28
>> And if they never know that you used AI
01:07:31
assistance in this, then
01:07:33
>> Oh, you just made it more the [ __ ]
01:07:35
>> Perfectly acceptable.
01:07:36
>> You're not just my best friend. You're
01:07:38
my best best friend. I assume you're
01:07:40
using AI not because you have zero
01:07:42
thoughts on how to write a happy
01:07:43
birthday card. You're probably looking
01:07:45
for a little extra fun or like a rhyme
01:07:47
scheme or for something extra to make it
01:07:49
a good card.
01:07:49
>> I know. I feel like you're using AI
01:07:51
because it's too much effort.
01:07:53
>> It's too much effort, but you're writing
01:07:55
and mailing them a card already.
01:07:57
>> Yeah.
01:07:58
>> I think you're trying to take it to the
01:07:59
next level with some AI assistance.
01:08:02
>> Well, my thing is if you're already
01:08:04
doing it,
01:08:05
>> just do it. Like if you're going through
01:08:07
the effort to get the letter and mail it
01:08:09
out, like just write the letter then.
01:08:11
>> I think it's potentially true that
01:08:13
adding AI assistance made it more work
01:08:17
and made it better.
01:08:18
>> Here's here's an asterisk. How much time
01:08:22
would you have to spend conversing with
01:08:24
this LLM about the nature of your
01:08:26
friendship with this person?
01:08:28
>> That's a good point.
01:08:28
>> For you no longer to be the impersonal
01:08:31
[ __ ]
01:08:32
>> Yeah. I don't. So, it's like what part
01:08:34
of the letter are you getting help with?
01:08:37
Cuz I don't know what the letter is. It
01:08:39
could like is the letter like, oh, this
01:08:41
person is like my one of my friends in
01:08:44
my fantasy basketball like group and
01:08:46
like I'm mailing him a card cuz I'm
01:08:48
whooping him this week and I thought
01:08:49
it'd be hilarious if we got a card. Help
01:08:51
me write something that's like funny and
01:08:53
relates to basketball. Like you're going
01:08:55
the extra mile to mail them a specific
01:08:57
card and you're getting
01:08:58
>> What if you used your brain? I would say
01:09:00
let's say we never
01:09:02
>> Marquette Marquez's examples don't seem
01:09:05
that bad.
01:09:06
>> I just like
01:09:07
>> I'm just not willing to default 100%
01:09:10
like the guy in the woods with the
01:09:11
speaker.
01:09:12
>> This is a podcast talking about Reddit.
01:09:13
We're supposed to default 100% on
01:09:16
something.
01:09:16
>> I think you can use AI to help write
01:09:19
someone a birthday card and mail it to
01:09:21
them in a very high effort way that does
01:09:23
not make you an [ __ ] So, I'm not
01:09:25
going to go 100% on that one.
01:09:27
>> Are you writing with your hands? Yeah,
01:09:28
you're going through all that mailing
01:09:30
effort, but you got you got ChachiBT to
01:09:32
give you like a like a haiku scheme so
01:09:36
you could be better at making a haiku or
01:09:38
something. I don't know.
01:09:39
>> Yeah. When I was a child, I would get
01:09:40
irrationally angry and I would still get
01:09:42
irrationally angry at like when some
01:09:44
random family member that I never spoke
01:09:46
to on my birthday would send me a
01:09:48
birthday card that was literally just
01:09:49
the card that they bought at Walgreens.
01:09:51
>> Yeah, that's that's more
01:09:53
>> I was like, I understand there's ever
01:09:55
involved here, but like you're mailing
01:09:57
it in. so hard.
01:09:59
>> Yeah.
01:09:59
>> You're mailing your feelings in. You're
01:10:01
you're distribut Thank you.
01:10:02
>> literally mailing it in.
01:10:03
>> You are you you're like outsourcing your
01:10:06
brain and your feelings to some
01:10:08
Walgreens writer.
01:10:10
>> That's a great point. What's worse?
01:10:12
>> It's not that different.
01:10:13
>> The Walgreens written one that's
01:10:15
definitely impersonal or I used AI to
01:10:18
make
01:10:19
>> I think Walgreens is worse. I think a
01:10:20
pre-written card from Walgreens is worse
01:10:22
to be honest
01:10:24
>> cuz it is it is it's copied. It's
01:10:27
generic. You know that other people got
01:10:29
the same card, too.
01:10:30
>> Yeah,
01:10:30
>> that's what makes
01:10:31
>> At least for the LLM, you're giving it
01:10:32
context.
01:10:33
>> Yeah.
01:10:34
>> I'm just
01:10:35
>> Do you guys send cards where you don't
01:10:37
write anything else in there? Sometimes
01:10:38
I've gotten those. I get them.
01:10:40
>> I have gotten them.
01:10:41
>> That's crazy. I think those That's
01:10:43
crazy.
01:10:43
>> Or like they'll just sign They'll just
01:10:44
sign their name.
01:10:46
>> This is a principal one. This is like
01:10:48
Yeah, Marquez, you're right. Like maybe
01:10:50
Yeah, I see where you're coming from.
01:10:52
Marquez's thing makes it sound like I'm
01:10:54
trying to be creative in a way I'm not
01:10:55
creative and I want to put the extra
01:10:56
effort in which I don't think is the the
01:10:59
like when we're talking about this
01:11:01
specific am I the [ __ ] it's like
01:11:04
>> I don't have I want to make it look like
01:11:06
I have I want to trick them. You did in
01:11:08
one point say if they don't know it's AI
01:11:11
what's it better that was kind of an
01:11:12
[ __ ] move but uh
01:11:14
>> I guess in the case of the Hallmark card
01:11:16
where it's pre-written you know it's
01:11:17
pre-written so you know that there's
01:11:19
zero effort in the case of like the
01:11:22
handwritten letter you don't know how
01:11:23
much effort there was maybe this
01:11:25
person's really clever and wrote a
01:11:26
clever thing or maybe they had help
01:11:28
>> a central plot point of the movie her is
01:11:31
that the titular character titular
01:11:33
character the guy her the main the main
01:11:36
character
01:11:36
>> the main the her guy.
01:11:38
>> The waqen Phoenix looking guy.
01:11:40
>> Yeah.
01:11:40
>> Um
01:11:41
>> yeah, he is a he is literally writer.
01:11:43
Yeah, he's a greeting card writer.
01:11:44
That's his job is he he writes greeting
01:11:46
cards for rich people who don't have
01:11:47
time. I guess you knew a guy.
01:11:49
>> Why would he have to do that when they
01:11:50
have
01:11:50
>> I know a person who uh who sort of
01:11:53
moonlight writes for PR statements for
01:11:56
like CEOs.
01:11:57
>> Oh, never mind. I thought it was like
01:11:58
personal writing.
01:12:00
>> Mr. Deed's also a greeting card writer.
01:12:03
>> Oh god. Am I the [ __ ] for liking old
01:12:06
Adam Sandler?
01:12:07
>> Oh,
01:12:07
>> yes.
01:12:08
>> Oh. Oh.
01:12:09
>> Ultimately, I think the effort ladder,
01:12:10
like the the effort ladder is
01:12:13
>> you wrote it completely yourself.
01:12:15
>> That's the highest.
01:12:16
>> You wrote it with the help of an ML MLM
01:12:20
LLM with all the context of the person
01:12:22
>> right below it.
01:12:23
>> You wrote it just with the ML LLM with
01:12:27
no context at all
01:12:28
>> and didn't edit it at all.
01:12:29
>> And didn't edit at all. And then
01:12:30
Hallmark card is on the bottom
01:12:32
>> of lowest effort.
01:12:33
>> Yeah. Even even lower below that is just
01:12:35
a text.
01:12:36
>> I think when you're getting to the point
01:12:38
of them something
01:12:39
>> No, but text is not pre-written by
01:12:41
somebody else. So, it's actually higher
01:12:42
than Hallmark card.
01:12:43
>> Oh, interesting. That's interesting.
01:12:45
>> You had to use your own brain to do it.
01:12:46
>> I just think the the the
01:12:49
threshold of I'm buying a card for you
01:12:53
to put in an envelope and write your
01:12:55
name and address on and mailing it to
01:12:56
you to arrive around your birthday is
01:12:59
already a lot of effort. I know it's
01:13:00
effort, but it's but it's like it's more
01:13:02
of a formality. It's like when your mom
01:13:04
says, "We have to do this." And you say,
01:13:05
"Why?" And they said, "Cuz we've always
01:13:07
done it that way."
01:13:08
>> Like you're not using any of your own,
01:13:11
>> you know?
01:13:11
>> I think call your homies.
01:13:12
>> Critical thought.
01:13:14
>> Call your homies.
01:13:14
>> Call your homies, man. Call them on
01:13:16
their birthday. I was just calling.
01:13:18
>> Please never call them.
01:13:20
>> Please don't call me.
01:13:21
>> I guess I'm calling you.
01:13:22
>> We should allude. So,
01:13:24
>> Am I an [ __ ] Don't ever call me.
01:13:26
Please.
01:13:26
>> There's a There's a new AI for that,
01:13:28
bro. We get OpenClad to call your homies
01:13:31
on their birthday.
01:13:32
>> Twilio.
01:13:33
>> Okay. This is a good one to end it on.
01:13:34
>> Yeah. Okay.
01:13:35
>> Okay.
01:13:36
>> Yes or no? Are you an [ __ ] if you
01:13:38
just cold call someone in the middle of
01:13:39
the day?
01:13:40
>> No.
01:13:41
>> Yeah.
01:13:42
>> Call.
01:13:43
>> It's your birthday. Your homiey's
01:13:44
calling you for your birthday. It's 4:30
01:13:47
in the afternoon. They're calling you
01:13:48
right now.
01:13:48
>> If it's your birthday, no. But if it's a
01:13:50
regular Tuesday, don't call me.
01:13:53
>> What?
01:13:53
>> No. I totally disagree. Especially
01:13:55
because we all have caller ID and if you
01:13:57
the person doesn't want to pick up,
01:13:58
y'all don't have to pick up.
01:14:00
>> No, because if you pick up, you don't
01:14:01
want to talk to me.
01:14:02
>> If you never call me and now you're
01:14:03
calling me at 3:00 on a Tuesday, I think
01:14:06
something's wrong. I'm picking up
01:14:07
freaking out.
01:14:08
>> You pick up freak out and then I say,
01:14:09
"How's it going?"
01:14:11
>> I That's the [ __ ] That specifically
01:14:13
is the [ __ ] What's up? Hey, how's it
01:14:15
going, man?
01:14:16
>> What?
01:14:17
>> But like,
01:14:17
>> why did you call me?
01:14:18
>> I like getting called out of the blue by
01:14:20
friends that I don't talk to that often.
01:14:21
Oh,
01:14:22
>> and if they just want to chat, even if
01:14:23
I'm not free, I'm like, "Oh, sorry,
01:14:25
dude. I'm not free right now, but we
01:14:26
should catch up." It's just catching up.
01:14:28
>> Give me an out.
01:14:30
>> Send me a text. Hey, can I call you
01:14:31
later? Let me say nothing.
01:14:33
>> I I need to mentally prepare for a
01:14:35
conversation.
01:14:37
>> I can't just pick up the phone and start
01:14:38
talking.
01:14:38
>> After the last three answers, I'm
01:14:40
convinced Marquez is the guy bringing
01:14:41
his Xbox to the honeymoon.
01:14:45
>> I I don't even know Xbox.
01:14:46
>> Hey, uh I don't want to talk to you
01:14:48
right now. I'd rather stare at a screen.
01:14:52
>> Yeah, as someone who gets like 300
01:14:54
emails a day, I guess
01:14:55
>> that's fair.
01:14:56
>> Calling me is like it's got to be a
01:14:59
certain urgency level.
01:15:00
>> I just want to say I'm proud of you
01:15:01
guys. Uh during the over the course that
01:15:03
I called all three of you because I
01:15:04
thought it would be really funny and you
01:15:06
guys are all either on airplane or do
01:15:07
not disturb
01:15:09
>> DND.
01:15:09
>> I don't think I'm any of those things.
01:15:11
>> Well,
01:15:12
>> I am watching the Olympics. I am
01:15:14
watching Team USA play quarterfinals
01:15:16
right now.
01:15:17
>> Am I the [ __ ] I'm on a podcast with
01:15:18
you, but I'm also watching the game.
01:15:20
>> Is that cool? Is that fine?
01:15:22
>> Listen, I've been waiting 14 years for
01:15:24
this Olympics and the NHL. Sorry.
01:15:27
>> Yeah, to be honest, I've been waiting 14
01:15:29
years for my new Street Manifesto album.
01:15:30
If that dropped in the middle of the
01:15:31
pod, I'd have my earphones. Fair enough.
01:15:34
>> Well, guys, you did an excellent job at
01:15:36
getting this. Um, it seems like the only
01:15:39
two things you can do and not be an
01:15:40
[ __ ] in your eyes are uh
01:15:43
>> everyone sucks
01:15:44
>> are uh ask your family to take their old
01:15:47
photos off of iCloud
01:15:49
and
01:15:50
>> if you're paying for it,
01:15:51
>> switch to Android.
01:15:52
>> Can we have like Hey, let us know in the
01:15:54
comments if you agree or disagree with
01:15:57
any of our or maybe present some more
01:15:59
and then we'll do another episode
01:16:00
because this is actually really fun and
01:16:01
I want to know what whether situations
01:16:02
you guys have that we can agree with or
01:16:04
disagree with. So, a t a a t a
01:16:11
>> uh hit us up
01:16:12
>> and you can officially bring your
01:16:15
children back in the room.
01:16:16
>> Yeah, we're back. We're back. We're
01:16:17
going to censor stuff from here on out.
01:16:19
Back to your regularly scheduled
01:16:20
programming. See you guys soon.
01:16:22
>> Censorship is coming.
01:16:24
>> Waveform is produced by Adam Molina.
01:16:27
>> Waveform is produced by Adam Molina,
01:16:29
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01:16:30
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>> Bingo.
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>> Bingo.
01:16:45
Why do you think there's so many
01:16:46
chickens?
01:16:50
>> How do they get here?
01:16:51
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