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episode technically of the waveform podcast so we're your hosts I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David and this is the
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people here at South by so we're going to do this we actually want to involve you guys a little bit in this episode
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waveforms survey.com I'll give you 15 seconds real quick to fill it out it should be pretty quick should be pretty
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quick it's basic questions do you have a case on your phone right now you know what are the priorities you have and
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buying a phone stuff like that um but yeah that's basically it yeah thank you all for coming this is kind of Awesome aome we're usually trapped in a little tiny room with the best sound at the office and this is far far different at
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the office it's freezing here I am just really sticky it's just very humid this is Texas we usually record in in the
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Northeast um so everyone's everyone's busy typing away Mak sure to answer the questions real quick just as first thing
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that comes to mind you see the question you answer make it honest uh second half of the show we'll close ourselves and
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what you guys answered so it'll be fun um but yeah for those of you unfamiliar with waveform typically we are just
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talking Tech so the stories of the hour the the gadgets we talk YouTube we talk Creator stuff all sorts of that ecosystem um and lucky for us there's
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always news and always stuff happening so one of the things that I feel like we do want to chat about is Apple
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intelligence is delayed again yeah I think it's funny because we always talk about how news gets released on Thursday
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or Friday and it takes us a week to cover it so being here today I think this got released before we hit our
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plane yesterday and uh yeah a lot of a lot some news with apple intelligence you know the iPhone 16 was built from
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the ground up for Apple intelligence right totally yeah so we've always had this quote that we say and you might have heard this before to never buy a piece of tech based on the promise of
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future software updates and then we had iPhone 16 come out and we reviewed it and one of the biggest features of it cuz there wasn't that much different was this promise of this future soft update
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that was Apple intelligence and it did start to come out to be fair we have writing tools we have I mean image
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playgrounds there's not a ton of stuff in it can I get a casual show of hands does anybody use apple intelligence
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features on an iPhone or an iOS device we've got about maybe uh 80 100 people here and I see 25 hands that's interesting and then the rest of you
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just don't use it at all at all or they're waiting for Siri to be good yeah so I think the the the interesting about
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this story is the one thing that is delayed is maybe the most useful part of Apple intelligence which is an upgraded
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Siri so I use Gemini on my phone a lot I actually find the voice assistant pretty
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useful do you guys use Google Assistant AKA gemini or Siri or any of these I've started to use the live Gemini a little bit more I kind of love live Gemini it is surprisingly good except for this
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morning it was not good but what did you ask it this morning something about wire
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transferring but a weird way I'm like a creep you know like a I'm stealing people's money kind of way like an
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innocent question yeah I don't use it at all I still just use my regular assistant to you know turn on the lights
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turn off the lights I think Gemini is lowkey incredibly impressive so Gemini live specifically which is it's just a
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conversation with the assistant and it can take over and see anything that's on your phone and if you want it's
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multimodal and you can let it see your camera feed and so I can literally open it up right now and point it at the
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camera I can point it at this audience and ask it what do you see and it will it'll describe what it sees hopefully
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which is maybe not super useful right now cuz I know what I see but let's see let's see let's see what
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happens good noise so uh what do you see right now okay I see a large crowd of people in what looks like a are you here for a
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specific event yeah this is South by Southwest what should we do for these people that's so cool that you're at South South by Southwest there are tons of things to do there from film and
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music festivals to tons of different interactive media events what are you hoping to experience while you're there
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I want to entertain the crowd we're looking at right now well if you want to entertain the
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crowd you can start by telling a joke or a funny story that's right some magic tricks or juggling you could juggle can
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you can you juggle live on the Pod I I didn't bring anything to juggle but I I genuinely use a lot I
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pointed it at a a YouTube video and asked it like are there other things from this Creator I should know about
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just random stuff just to see if it would work and it almost always like works surprisingly well yeah so I find it very very useful potentially even
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underrated and then the Siri thing is supposed to be at least more able to like punch in and and do things on your
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phone and and dive into Apps and change settings and things like that and that's the that's the useful thing I've been
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waiting for and that's the thing that's delayed so now Apple intelligence kind of has this weak reputation where like nobody
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uses it or cares about it that much yeah the news said that they are going to release it by the end of the year I
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believe or within a year they said they made an official announcement um they said they've been working on a more personalized Siri giving it more
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awareness of your personal context as well as the ability to take action for you within and across your apps it is
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going to take us longer than we thought to deliver on these features and we anticipate rolling them out in the coming year I was honestly surprised
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that they even gave a date but they did the classic apple thing of 3/4 of it is just saying what they already announced
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andit of like and maybe you'll get the that we you we get okay so taking action for you within an across your apps I think that part could be cool that's like the rabbit R1 killer whole thing
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that's the whole thing cuz that if you don't have as many apis and on all these apps anymore cuz they're all closing down their apis if you can just have
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your assistant do stuff for you yeah yeah I'm so tempted to ask one of the questions that we didn't put in the survey should I ask it call me a I'm
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scared of what it is I want to I just want to ask it okay so AI assistance being able to take action is kind of a
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cool idea right maybe if you even had like a piece of Hardware that's dedicated to an AI assistant that can
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take action for you and it's just always available maybe it's like attached to you or something maybe it's like magnetically what if it had like a
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projector and like yeah that would be kind of interesting did anybody here by Humane pin is what I'm trying to ask one
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hand we got one one hand did we make you said what I also returned it you returned it yeah same good for good for you same yeah that's interesting I think my bet was going to be like three or
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four yeah at least you don't work at HP now so yeah no but the idea is cool though still so AI assistant taking action for you I think Siri has this enormously high ceiling and potential
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for people who don't really use AI that much to use Ai and get real value out of
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it and understand that it's useful and and beneficial and that would be cool and that's the thing that's delayed
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that's why it's sad news can I can I take a little mini pole yeah does anyone here use uh gen mooji genj we got oh oh
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oh okay seven or eight hands cool I think I've proven a point I've used enoji once and it was while I was making my video explaining what it
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is if you've noticed they've changed all of the Billboards in Manhattan that used to say Hello Apple intelligence to gen
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mooji yet wow so the writing tools just get no love I mean the writing tools are
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the iPhone 16 is now the Gen mooji phone that's right there we go um so we were kind of expecting this in iOS 18.4 which
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now the develop which now supports RCS on Google F you're expecting a clap there I think
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but come on let's go yes yes yeah yes exting news thank youis I think you know with getting this announcement is it safe to say we're not getting it even in
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iOS and potentially iOS that's a big question I mean it would be a it would be a big move if they just dropped it in
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iOS 19 in in June a big move yeah I mean it would be it would be funny it would be funny if dubdub just reann anced everything that they announced at last dubdub oh yeah I agree yeah so dubdub is
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going to be summer right so the summer is when we get uh it's not even that far away yeah June yeah it's not that far away and so we'll get a bunch of iOS
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updates and we'll get maybe some early betas and maybe we'll see some previews of how that stuff's going to work are we
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excited did we see that already yeah we've seen almost everything we're expecting to come out yeah unless it just comes out at dub duub yeah
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yeah I don't think so um German though even went so far to say that people within the Apple AI division believe
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work towards Siri might need to be scrapped and rebuilt completely because of how poorly it's been working what is
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this that's bad that's not a great look it takes some time to make things and uh
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which they're finding out right now yeah and if it going to take that much time to remake I guess you learn from it right but well yeah but I guess my
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question to you all is do we see the new series features in 2025 yeah I think so here's here's why
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I'm optimistic because we have seen others try to do things like this I remember doing a AI assistant battle
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where we had Google Assistant back when it was called that versus Siri which wasn't that good back then either versus
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Bixby yeah on Samsung phones versus Alexa but the thing about Bixby because this was something Samsung was building into their phones was it already had a specific ability to dig into apps on
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your Samsung phone right and flip switches and set options for you and things like that so I could ask it to
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turn the flashlight on or set an alarm but I could also ask it to go into an app and change a setting that was
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bixby's highlight in 2019 or whenever that video came out so I don't see why that would be that difficult for Apple they obviously build and control iOS and can make this easy for for developers I
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don't see why it we are not developers so we do not know how hard that actually is we just like to pretend for a little
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bit developer brain saw Bixby do this five years ago yeah I mean they acquired Siri a very long time ago so the question becomes did they ever completely rebuild it from the ground up
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or did they just build on top of really old code and maybe that's the problem yeah you know unclear cool animation now
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that that is true that is true they use it in all the advertising yeah so if you had to take a guess of how they address
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this at dubdub do you think we're just going to get the reann of everything do you think they're just going to ignore
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that they're that delayed on it how do you how do you see that coming so the they going to air power it we just never
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hear about it ever again well that's Apple's public facing trend is they never publicly announce that something is delayed or not coming out anymore which is why it was surprising that this
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happened yeah well this this though is a statement to a source this is a statement to a paper yeah they wouldn't
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go on their website or in an event and go all right so this thing we told you about it's delayed they just don't send to do that so what they will do I think
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is re announce what's already out gen mooji is so useful oh my God image playground it's so great and then if
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there's more stuff coming they'll tell us that more stuff is coming like the series stuff that's what I think they're going to do yeah yeah I think it'll be a
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fun dubdub either way we'll see it'll be a funny one we'll see all right it's time for a real quick break when we get back we're going to dig into dig
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Vox all right our next story we want to talk about because news just keeps coming is the new dig yes can I take
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over this one yes cuz I have never used dig in my life can I do my audience poll
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go for it who out there was an old dig user cool all right and did you all do the migration to Reddit in the process
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okay cool I was on Reddit and I remember the like great dig migration it was kind of like the Dig refugees on Reddit it
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was back when Reddit was fun which it's has not been lately yeah um but within the last week we got an announcement
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that dig is being updated and uh purchased they purchased it we actually looked Adam and I this morning looked back so the Dig Nation Podcast has come back they about 6 months ago started
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redoing it I think the previous episode before that was 13 years ago so it's it's been a while one of the first things they said in the opening was if
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you go to dig right now it's a 503 and he said to camera Kevin Rose said to camera if you own dig please contact me I would like to buy it relaunch it and we can Crush Reddit which I thought was
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a very upfront and cool move I guess to Big Goal isn't isn't Reddit a top 10 website on planet Earth oh yeah yeah top five so top three okay bold claim number
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one number one I actually think it is top it is top three actually think Google and YouTube and then probably
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some meta thing and then probably yeah yeah top five I'm going to do a a for those of you who don't know about dig
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I'm going to do a very quick yeah tldr about what it was yeah it was a a previous competitor to Reddit kind of
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like front pages of the internet that relies on community votes to see you know what is the most happening story
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these days rather than up votes and down votes they had digs and berries I realized when I said this to Adam this
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morning Berry b y not the fruit so that was your way of going up or down um when
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you're digging aren't you like going you're bearing something right no I'm with I've never thought of it youing same thing I thought the same thing
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yeah um sorry I just that's okay they should have thought about that before they maybe that's why it went away um
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but so back then there was certainly like this kind of sibling rivalry between a few on Reddit or if you were on dig I know you were I start on Redd
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like 2011 and I just kept telling people about it constantly they just didn't care but they care now they do well so I
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was a trend Setter you were you're always a trend Setter D thank you very much um but it wasn't just between users
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that kind of had this rivalry there's actually an email in 2005 of Alexis Ohanian emailing Steve Huffman saying
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meet the enemy with a link to dig so they clearly were competitors in this this community aggregated new site um and it it was a fun fun time back then
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but but dig had a bunch of issues a main one being power users so back then if you were a very frequent user of the
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site essentially your votes counted for more and then you could be in a group of
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power users and essentially sell links aggregated to the top and what dig Did to combat that is they created I think it was dig foro
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back then which made a bunch of changes really disregarded the community and um everyone left never good never good when you're trying to make a whole bunch of money on something on a community based
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website it feels like um so everyone kind of moved to Reddit I remember being on Reddit back then and being like Reddit one we did it which is really
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lame to say out loud in front of a bunch of people right now but uh within the last week or two
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Kevin Rose the founder of dig uh he is collaborating with Alexis Ohanian former co-founder of redddit who left in 2020 and now they're launching the new dig so this is like magic and bird coming
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together to launch a who bird sorry for that sorry bird do you want to do an analogy uh we'll come back to you it's like no okay I think that would I
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somebody understood that right okay thank you magic sorry old rivals coming together to
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launch something new today is he not dead so magic Magic Johnson Larry Bird big rivals back in the day would be like crazy if they collaborated on something that's kind my equivalent like they were
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on they on different team this is basketball basketball it's a sport sorry and then they were enemies yeah that's the they why were they enemies different teams okay what about the like that new
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kid that everyone's into Michael no the trade the trade thing that you guys were trying to this is new yeah sorry I'm I'm
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back in like old school basketball but that is also basketball yes yes okay yeah all right sorry Andrew don't worry that's that's the waveform podcast
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that's how it goes we usually I'll try and like wrap this so there's not a whole bunch of stuff that they've released so far um minus you know Kevin
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Rose saying I want to take down Reddit directly but it does seem like they're launching a new one they're also doing a
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dig Nation live podcast at South tonight is it tonight I think it's like tonight at 6 so if any of you are interested that that sounds like a pretty cool time
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question I have a question do you think that dig re rebooting has a chance at actually taking down Reddit because I know Nostalgia is big yes and that Nostalgia is very powerful and that I
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think a lot of people who remember dig and really liked dig would give it a chance but is there a chance that all
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the normal casual people who just browse Reddit would give dig a chance no really
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I think it's going to be sort of similar to Twitter blue guy I think we're just going to get all these kind of like
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smaller communities that start growing and I think there will be a growing dig Community but I don't think it's going to be a mass migration event like ha
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happened when dig died and Reddit was born you know I do agree with that I do think there's a little more to it right
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now in the sense that the general frustration on Reddit within the last year or two since taking away third
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party apps really messing up a lot of moderation tools like they've said that they're really focused on bringing
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moderation tools to moderators on the new dig of course they're saying they're using AI so that's always like a fun red
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flag of like what kind of AI are you using but I think the reason being it I I've never been on dig before but as a I really not don't call myself a redditor
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you say um so like as someone who uses Reddit sometimes I'm excited for dig just because of how much I feel like
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they've messed it up in the last year or two it feels like they saw a lot of opportunity with things that Reddit did wrong and they put those things all on
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whiteboard and they said if we do that then people will switch to our thing aged and then we eat reddit's lunch
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maybe that's the way they thought about it does the narwhal bacon oh my goodness that's a Reddit 2011 was a really cringe
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time there was a lot of cringe stuff out there there early internet days including me I'm look I'm rooting for
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competition that's how I'll put it like Reddit is huge competition hopefully makes Reddit do more good things for
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moderators for communities for third party apps and users uh but we'll just have to wait for time to tell the reason
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Reddit won't do that is because it's not good for market share okay but investor Remember When Blue Sky blew up and then
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all of a sudden threads was like here's like 30 new features that we have had ready but just never released until we
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had competition competition so maybe maybe maybe companies comp we win not monopolies it's huge big yeah dig I'm interested is there anyone who's on
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Reddit that has been frustrated with it that would you know we don't know much about dig but would you be interested in
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moving to dig I guess you can go to both of them so it doesn't really matter but damn anyone cool okay so never mind dig
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is screwed nothing is going to Happ well the other thing about the other thing about uh these sites is they are so
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dependent on community kind of like social networks so they kind of require at least some Mass migration event to
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have a bunch of users to have a bunch of content to have a bunch of stuff to do and to sort through and to follow Etc so even if you're one of a small number of
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people who is interested in dig dig doesn't exist without a whole bunch of people there mhm so that's a barrier
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that I see but at least they're you know they're here they're doing stuff yeah I'll be interested to see what they say
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tonight I like South by feels like a place to announce things and I wouldn't be surprised if they do that what are we
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announcing good question our first live event happened 20 minutes ago that didn't do very well cool I have let's move on I have one more quick
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question before we get to audience Q&A which hopefully there's some people interested in asking questions yeah um
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we're this is our first time at southp we've been to plenty of other Tech events I know both of you I've never
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done Mobile World Congress but you guys have and we've done CES and we've done kind of everything and I think uh you
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know if you're watching the video you don't get the general Vibe about what's going on at those events so I want to pose a question of what is the coolest
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most unique or weirdest thing you've ever witnessed at a Tech Convention it can be someone trying to sell you
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something it could be a piece of tech that looked really cool but when you got closer to it it wasn't quite as cool
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or it could be one of the coolest things you ever seen and you wonder where it went I have a thing that came to mind that's probably not where you were thinking but it it works for me in uh
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the first I've only been to Mobile World Congress once this year by the way was a really interesting lot of stuff happening there uh but it's in Barcelona
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it's every year and the one year that I went I had no clue what I was doing I was an Airbnb several miles away from
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the convention center and I saw the taxi line which was hours long and I decided
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what if I just walk back my Airbnb and so I just walked with all my camera gear through the streets of Barcelona back no
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uh no it was and it nothing happened oh good and it was great it was cool I saw all sorts of architecture and all sorts
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of parts and I had some good food and it was a good time and that was the coolest part of that Mobile World Congress for
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me so that's that you walked yeah that I saw I saw a new city and it was like a cool experience and it had nothing to do with any of the tech at the show we are really bad at experiencing new cities
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because like we flew in what we landed at 6 last night our plane is at 5: today so we're really bad at experiencing and Austin's a really awesome City I wish we were here a little longer for yourself
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man yeah you're staying but uh do you have a fun experience or oh man h i can I like the pingpong robots at CES they there every single year I feel like the first year they were there it was like
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the biggest hype there was a huge line and it was really hard to get there and now since then they're just still
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running off of that hype from I got to play the pingpong Robot the first year it was there and they had
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these like this like roped off area around it and they had someone doing a demo and so I got up there and I started
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playing against it and I was you know kind of holding a rally for a while and then I I hit one kind of fast you know
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and I beat it and I was like wow I beat the pingpong robot and they were like cool great yeah so we can change the
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difficulty level here like oh that was on baby mode yeah so and then immediately it was incredible so yeah
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it's it's one of the coolest things there actually yeah yeah I've one small one maybe a second funny story if uh we
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have time but we were looking at it was a BMW experience and one of their new like autonomous uh I think it was like an I3 it was a smaller hatchback and it
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was kind of on the floor at the BMW Booth with a a wire around it but they were nice enough to let us go in and and
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film it with a bunch of people around so Marquez sits in the back seat to get a shot and he goes to scoot over to the
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other seat and all the B W players are like no no hold on that middle seat is actually cardboard underneath and if you
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scoot across it it will collapse you'll fall into there um and so we had to walk out around but that's just like on video
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all of this stuff looks really cool a lot of the stuff at these events are like held together with twist ties and
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chewing them many of the things at many of these events are not real that's kind of the sad part about it you know
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especially with cars do you remember when the Hummer EV came to our office and they were like it can melt if you
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leave it outside too long the interior functions might melt in on the dashboard so yeah that's kind of the state of uh this isn't a news thing that we have but
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that's kind of the state of of a lot of early EVS right now like I just saw a video from a fellow YouTuber good friend
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Zach J RG everything on the T truck I watched it on the plane on the way here super cool concept it's like this small
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footprint electric truck with four seats and a 5-ft bed in the footprint of a Mini Cooper it's like oh that seems had a reasonable range 1100b towing or I
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think a 7,000 lb Towing 1700b cargo capacity was like oh this is really cool thing I'm very inspired I go to their
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site they're like this isn't out yet and this is kind of the one that they've built that works but you can reserve it
00:27:44
you can put your 150 bucks down and reserve it and it's like I've seen this a lot of times I've been Zach in this
00:27:50
situation I did a video about the Faraday future at CES 2015 I don't even know how long ago that was cuz that's the one you hired me yeah
00:28:00
2017 and that never came out but we got a really cool working car in person and it turns out it's really really easy to build one yeah and then you can roll it around CES or South by southw wherever
00:28:13
you want and then it's really really hard to build 100,000 of them yeah and so that's been my new philosophy like
00:28:20
when Tesla rolls out this Robo van and they're like trust me I'm like the Roven you mean yeah and I'm uh I'm I look
00:28:26
skeptical because I've seen this Pony show before but we'll see we'll see I want these things to come out it's just really hard to trust when I only see one well unless that Trello Mini Cooper
00:28:38
thing has a twerking AI dog on the dashboard I don't want it that's a deep cut that's a Mini Cooper refence yeah
00:28:46
well hey look that's about all the news that we have so I think what we should do is we should introduce Ellis is over
00:28:53
here and Adam where did Adam go Adam's back there they're waving their hands and they have microphones
00:29:00
Ellis yeah so anyone a question does anyone have questions who's who's near Adam I think this is a you got you've got the talkative side this is a you problem Adam I see someone hold on
00:29:12
coming over scary scary scary we're going to try and get as many questions as possible to yeah hello my name is Tre
00:29:18
Wendell I'm from Ohio University this is also my first time at South by Southwest I'm very excited to see you guys here um
00:29:23
my question for you is if you had unlimited resources to invent or create a ground piecing piece of Tech no matter
00:29:29
how futuristic or unrealistic what would it be and why crumple phone thanks Alis wow unlimited resources is huge res I have a really quick one if you guys
00:29:40
want to think about I just had a child she's like 14 months old every piece of baby Tech is absolute garbage I would completely reinvent baby tech make it
00:29:50
actually high I would make the apps actually useful yeah or maybe just you know maybe we don't need apps for it
00:29:57
maybe the white noise machine just needs an on andof switch but uh I think I think there's an untapped Market there
00:30:02
because everything I seem to do as a tech person hurts my soul I like that answer a lot that also doesn't require unlimited resources it seems like it does there's a lot of babies out
00:30:14
there dang I never thought about that do you think there are as many babies as there are like non- bab no I don't think
00:30:25
so there's a lot of babies though there's a lot all right we got one here unless one of
00:30:31
you guys wait they didn't have an answer I want to hear an answer one uned resources my brain weirdly went straight to like could we do Humane over again oh
00:30:42
my go and like make a good yeah cuz I mean they essentially take unlimited resources so I would want to create a good AI that like like has a personal
00:30:53
understanding of everything in my phone even though that's kind of impossible and then can be super for me but but so
00:31:00
Humane pin that actually connects to your phone and you don't need a separate phone number for yeah like I can't believe they didn't think of
00:31:06
that I'm going to maybe do my my one of my senior projects in college that I got
00:31:11
an A+ on by the way so it's a good idea are you pitching this right now we are at a place where I could do this okay so
00:31:19
imagine this right uhuh uh so it's an ISP but for people's homes okay and it's called Wei this is our already all built out it's called Wei so it's it's Wi-Fi
00:31:31
obviously but it was right after the the Google home no the Google Wi-Fi first came out where they were like oh mesh networks we're going to do mesh networks so imagine you have a node in your home
00:31:43
but it's like it's like two gigz it's like it goes Super far right and it goes to the street but it
00:31:51
can also ping off of other people's homes okay so the whole idea is like we give everyone in the world free internet but then you have like local ads that are running from like local businesses
00:32:02
if you don't pay for the internet but then if you're at home you get to say I don't use my bandwidth from 9:00 a.m. to
00:32:08
5:00 p.m. so I'm going to give 85% of my bandwidth to the community and then you
00:32:14
get money off of your payment every month the more the more bandwidth you give out great pitch so it's a pitch uh Comcast stole this idea from me Comcast
00:32:25
did steal this idea you have to be a com customer in order to use the internet and I think that everybody should have it not just man of the people man of the people so well there's the answer okay
00:32:37
that does require unlimited resources thank you for the question yeah hi my name is Darius uh I love the recent
00:32:44
video uh called our photable cooked great title uh in the US um photable really haven't gone mainstream do you think that Apple releasing a photable will change that considering the premium
00:32:55
they'll probably charge or do you think this might be another Vision Pro moment I'm a little biased because I've owned
00:33:01
like five aables and I just purchased the opal find in just Wai on that to arrive I'm so jealous really good question thank you um that's a part of the video I left out
00:33:13
of the video actually which is the Apple Factor um so just to catch people up who
00:33:18
haven't watched it foldables really really cool Tech uh but they're kind of stagnating a little bit in this way where it feels like the tech has gotten super good but then people just aren't switching to them yet and short answer
00:33:32
yes I think Apple jumping in with a foldable will reinvigorate all the competition all the attention all the
00:33:38
eyeballs and will make that interesting again but the premium that you mentioned
00:33:44
is also real so these foldables versus this foldable hot dog versus hotg H hurger these all have this massive premium and I think that's a huge barrier but this one which
00:33:55
I think might be more likely for Apple to try we've seen those for $699 from Motorola 999 from Samsung and I think this could
00:34:02
be in a not Vision Pro price category that I think could get a lot of people interested and I think that's the moment
00:34:08
Apple jumps in is when they can make that and it's reasonable for people to consider so good question it's like a
00:34:14
section of the video that probably fell out of my head and into yours I like that I've also started to see a lot of
00:34:20
hamburger foldables in New York City is that it's the flip the flip the flip is cuz Hamburg you put the but the top sare Patty would fit better that yeah exactly
00:34:31
so this all works great for an audio medium yeah our special do that okay so yeah um I've seen a lot of them on the subway they the the categor is growing and that's even on like you know non
00:34:43
Apple phones which in the United States is a very low number so I think if they release that and it's in that
00:34:50
$1,000 category I think that will be a a bigger super cycle than Apple intelligence totally would Apple do that
00:34:57
because right now a 16 Pro Max is $1,200 would they release one with a folding screen that's less expensive than their
00:35:04
has less features I think it has to be the most premium expensive I still it still doesn't matter as much though like
00:35:10
the the pro Max is the most popular iPhone in the United States because everyone just gets a carrier plan and it's like $3 more a month yeah they'll
00:35:17
do it everyone will buy it cool next question right here hey how's it going guys been following you guys for a long time appreciate you thank you very much um do
00:35:29
you think Apple will ever come out with a touchscreen device like a Mac or even the studio display cuz sometimes you're trying to edit and stuff like that and it sucks to not be able to just go there
00:35:43
the what is it what's the matte screen called why nanotexture nanotexture would hate that um no they have a nanotexture
00:35:50
iPad do yeah is it the same as screens your screen like you accidentally touch it once my my Pro display xdr is the
00:35:58
messiest thing on my baskets I have a lot of thoughts on this my general philosophy is if they could have they
00:36:04
would have done it they they could have they would have done it already if they wanted to they don't want to Apple has
00:36:09
enough overlapping products that if they gave something like a MacBook Air for example a touchcreen
00:36:15
then iPad Pro with a keyboard would be cannibalized a little bit like they kind of have to keep these things separate enough that a Mac with a touchcreen as much as we all think it makes intuitive
00:36:26
sense and there are tons touchcreen laptops out there Apple won't do it because in Apple's universe that's not
00:36:32
good for their other stuff I think it's way more likely that they add a feature on like the iPad that allows you to use
00:36:37
it as a drawing tablet mirroring onto your display than it is they release an actual touchscreen Mac they have these
00:36:44
uh ads all the time where they show somebody who has an iPad and they plug it into a studio display yeah like it's
00:36:50
a real person that they think exists that they think exists they think is the key word there yeah yeah yeah uh so no
00:36:58
is sorry I unfortunately don't think so either all right next question over on this side hi guys uh name is yian longtime viewer great to see you in person uh my
00:37:08
question is about your use of AI so you've shared a lot of sort of personally useful uses of AI but in the
00:37:15
running of your businesses of the YouTube channel the podcast what are uses of AI that are saving you a lot of time or just making your business way
00:37:21
more efficient LS has l wants to answer this really b as of as of last week I became a v coder I'm officially writing tons of code and don't know what any of it means
00:37:32
and uh and Claude did something crazy for me last week where uh I'm building a website and a web Builder that's really
00:37:38
cheap and doesn't support Tables oops and um I needed a table to build a table in it so I'm building it in HTML CSS
00:37:45
style like no idea what I'm doing and my idea was like oh I'll use Google Sheets that'll like maintain the table and then
00:37:50
I'll download the HTML throw it in the embed Google Sheets when you download HTML of a table puts all this formatting
00:37:58
in it ew gross disgusting and I don't know how to code so I don't know how to get rid of that formatting and I was
00:38:03
like Claude what do I do and Claude wrote me a web app that automatically removes all the styling it was like I got you bro so that's what I'm using AI for I'm vibing my way through code and
00:38:15
uh yeah it's that's actually very legit is this an industry term Vibe coder it's a Twitter term same difference it is now
00:38:25
I have another use of AI that we kind of dig into a little bit uh and I mean so we make YouTube videos and there are
00:38:31
endless analytics that we can dive into on YouTube because there's a whole spectrum of YouTubers those who check Studio every day those who just kind of
00:38:37
make the video and then it's just Vibes um I'm in the numbers I'm very curious about things like retention and things
00:38:43
that we can optimize and there are AI tools now that will look at past videos we've made other outliers from other
00:38:49
channels and things that have worked well on the platform in the past and suggest versions of that that could work for us and video making decisions for me
00:38:57
have always been a combination of what I think people would watch and what I'm interested in so I'm sorting through
00:39:02
that AI generated stuff to figure out what sort of overlaps between them and it's been surprisingly helpful the most
00:39:09
useful use for me is when I'm doing research on something that has like one Total Source on the internet and it's
00:39:16
from a forum from 50 years ago and uh just asking it a question that I like I can take the time to read a math book and dissect how it works or I can have
00:39:27
it tell me in baby talk how it works and then oh that makes a little more sense and then I read the math book and then
00:39:33
it's a lot easier to understand Al 50 years ago is not an exaggeration when we were doing the I can episode we were
00:39:40
pulling sources from uset Posts that had been archived which were from the early
00:39:45
80s yeah not quite 50 years that was 50 years ago it was for 40 something feel old yet pH old yeah uh I don't really
00:39:53
use AI at all currently um but Adam did use it the other day we were thinking of a a name for a segment in the podcast
00:40:00
where we say the best thing and the worst thing of the month in Tech and it came up with the idea crown and clown
00:40:06
which I thought was actually Super Creative I could have done that I don't know there that's why I don't use AI I have David that's right yeah you can't you can't spell David without Ai and a
00:40:19
few other letters next question over here I never thought about that it's pretty good hi everyone my name is Yuri
00:40:26
Benedict and I would like to ask about the podcast your YouTube uh production quality and storytelling is top tier and
00:40:34
I would like to know how do you translate what you learn doing YouTube video into your podcast how does one
00:40:42
make a great podcast like that we yeah I remember so when we pitched the Pod when
00:40:47
I pitched the podcast to Marquez um everyone on YouTube was kind of doing it and I really wanted to make sure that we
00:40:53
did it in my eyes like correctly so we went audio first because in our eyes and we're still very bad at this but we
00:41:00
wanted to be able to describe things to audio listeners and we thought we needed to go through the audio version first um
00:41:07
so we did that and I do think we learned a lot as you know now that we're on video we've probably gone back a few
00:41:13
steps um but that was our main goal of doing that and then since then in typical MKBHD fashion we're shooting in
00:41:20
the most unnecessarily high definition and have way too many people working on it um but I think we've like been not
00:41:27
way too many people sorry Adam and Ellis you guys everything I think we're crazy
00:41:32
efficient in terms of how I hear a lot of other podcast and I think keeping it close has led us do that and let us
00:41:39
really like grow the show organically and like get to test new things and see it directly in the numbers yeah I think
00:41:45
when you are building other YouTube videos you probably just develop strategies and kind of concept it's it's
00:41:51
kind of like making a normal YouTube video in a lot of ways cuz I've talked to people who do podcasts and they've only ever done on a podcast and not done
00:41:58
YouTube videos and they're like oh yeah we record for 3 hours and we get 25 minutes of useful content we record for
00:42:03
like two and we do like an hour and a half show which I think is a pretty good hit rate closer to three just the guy
00:42:10
who has to edit it every week and in general I think a lot of the production quality stuff that you see on the main Channel it became the expectation for
00:42:17
the main channel so I think what was interesting was this sort of just chat show format became a void that we opened
00:42:24
and the podcast was a perfect way to fill that it's still high production for a podcast but we have these stories and
00:42:30
these incredible big pieces that we do on the MKBHD Channel and then we can kind of just ch from that it's a it's a
00:42:36
different way of doing the same thing waveform was originally pitched as I would come into the office in Marquez and I would be hey did you see this hey
00:42:43
did you see that and we would talk and realize we're like an hour and a half into our day and we haven't actually done any work and we're like we should
00:42:49
record this so our conversations are so cool we should just record them people every want to hear us yeah total ego
00:42:55
move on that one but um I think because of that it's just conversation we're all friends and I think it's worked out
00:43:01
really well from that even though everyone tells us we interrupt each other all the time but sorry all right we'll take one more
00:43:08
quick break but when we come back many more interesting questions and all the [Music]
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00:44:05
can you remind me thank you very much um first of all I love your videos I've been watching since I've been in elementary school my name is SES I'm old yet feel old yet how old are you uh I'm
00:44:19
19 I am ancient go ahead returning to D my name is sves I'm from the University of Tulsa and also the founder of or patch and glou AI um as a 19-year-old in Medtech I wanted to ask you how can we
00:44:32
integrate Healthcare into our mobile technology that we have currently big question that might be
00:44:39
that's like the big next Frontier of what all these companies are trying to do so if you watch enough Apple
00:44:45
Keynotes there is a heavy uh emphasis on like you have these devices on you all the time and we're in your pockets already so we might as well be collecting and creating as much
00:44:59
useful information for you as possible from that and that works in the ecosystem of apple and the stuff that
00:45:06
they do so that makes it difficult for those outside uh to create something that you also carry on your person every day and also gives you useful information so there kind of these two worlds of Health Care on your person the
00:45:19
stuff that you already have and the stuff that you might also want to add um I do think Apple does a pretty good job I mean they have great stories every keynote about like the Apple watch saved
00:45:30
me because it alerted me of this thing I didn't know I had and I was in the woods and a bear attacked that was in
00:45:35
someone's house that the bear came in crazy stories but like that was the weirdest ever seen but they but it's
00:45:41
they're real stories and so this this advantage of uh them being able to do as much as possible with the sensors and
00:45:47
the things on your person is inspiring uh but the other side of that coin is they make it really hard for
00:45:53
others to like plug in um I've seen a good amount of things I plug into Apple Health like uh the what is it the eight
00:46:00
sleep has like the all the plugs to Apple health so like I get a watch notification that tells me about how my
00:46:05
mattress thinks that I slept which is crazy to say out loud what a world we live in but um hell long story short
00:46:11
yeah there's a lot of data being being collected and I'm pretty happy about a lot of the the value I've gotten out of
00:46:18
that yeah I think that's pretty above my head I know nothing about mettech or anything um I don't think I have a
00:46:25
specific answer for that I mean I'm I'm a very health anxious person so if there were things that could help with that anxiety I would love it yeah I mean
00:46:31
especially in the United States where Healthcare is a bazillion dollars uh it's very clear that the next kind of
00:46:37
Frontier there is preventative health and I think that's what all these companies are trying to get into it's like can we actually just try to keep
00:46:44
you healthier throughout your life can we alert your doctor of like early symptoms so that you don't actually have
00:46:49
to go to the hospital then go into bankruptcy that'd be that'd be great that'd be great and if you haven't
00:46:55
watched our Dr Mike interview really good and he has a lot of opinions as a a medical professional as well for anyone
00:47:01
out there it's a great episode yeah yeah we have approximately six minutes before
00:47:06
we want to do our trivia so if we want to do some kind of Rapid Fire questions okay yeah right over here or quick ones
00:47:12
or if you want to point them at somebody all right hi my name is theal I'm from UT Dallas um this is my first time at
00:47:18
South by Southwest so it's pretty cool to see you guys in person um so yesterday I uh attended a talk by the
00:47:26
CDO of d-wave so they're invested in Quantum Computing so right now everyone's talking about Ai and I just
00:47:33
it kind of reminded me a few years ago nobody really understood AI but now everybody's somehow understands Ai and I
00:47:39
feel that we're on the frontier of quantum Computing especially with what Microsoft did like I think a couple of weeks ago so um just based off that like
00:47:47
what's your opinion of quantum Computing and do you see it um being relevant in the next 5 years I'll leave this to you
00:47:53
too I have one really overarching thought which is is that The Branding is terrible so I did a video where I got to
00:48:01
actually see a quantum computer and learn essentially everything I could possibly dream with uh with Cleo Abram
00:48:07
and I went to IBM and we got to see all this cool stuff the stats are incredible the super low temperatures and the the
00:48:13
thing are incredible just the hardware is amazing and at the end of that I came away thinking wow these things are super super cool but I still can't explain it
00:48:20
to anyone and I think AI in its branding is artificial intelligence I think to my
00:48:26
parents I could say hey this is another intelligent thing it can help you with stuff that's super easy Quantum
00:48:31
Computing has never had an easy at least to me explanation of why it's super helpful even though the advancements are incredible and this this huge stuff Microsoft is doing I know if you saw that they started giving people tours of
00:48:43
their quantum computer they're setting new records with the amount of q-bits in theirs but how do I tell people who
00:48:49
aren't going to use that technology how useful it's going to be really really hard so AI seems like it's the most
00:48:55
connected to us it's in our pockets it's everywhere but Quantum Computing has like a branding problem they need a market the big question too is like when
00:49:02
is it actually going to be released for scientists or people to actually use because I feel like Quantum computing's
00:49:08
been 5 years away for 50 years like I remember reading Wired Magazine when I was like 6 years old and they're like
00:49:14
next year's the year we're going to change everything everything's going to be better and I know that there are huge advancements being made in this field
00:49:21
and like we're getting up to these insanely High cuit numbers that we didn't have before but yeah like Marquez at the tell me what that's actually
00:49:27
useful for and then also is is it like real or is it I guess a lot of it is because it's it's very research it's not
00:49:33
very consumer facing that was part of what we talked about in the video is like it doesn't really touch the end consumer like with AI I keep bringing it
00:49:40
back but like people use AI right with with the research and with all the stuff that quantum computers are good at every
00:49:46
time they pass this Milestone Cubit number there's some new thing that they've unlocked that they've been able to do more simulations or be able to
00:49:52
compute more things and that's just for the researchers that are doing that type of stuff and it's like not consumer
00:49:59
facing right yeah right right last two Ellis do you have one do we have time we're doing it do two more let's go hey
00:50:06
I'm pulit I'm uh I work at a privacy Tech startup based out of New York called cloak I had a question around AI
00:50:11
Hardware what do you think is the final format of AI Hardware on body that would win out would it have to eventually be
00:50:18
baked into a smartwatch or a smartphone or do you think there's space for a rabbit Aran or a Humane AI or or a meta
00:50:25
Ray band to eventually when as well can I just are you recording on your glasses right now I think glasses is the answer
00:50:31
and I think you're the exact reason why that makes sense I know yeah yeah I think there are there are so many cool
00:50:39
ideas of things that seem like naturally they could work glasses are obviously one of them the pin I'm not against the
00:50:45
idea like a little simple garment that you hopefully can charge up like that stuff could be cool but they are so up
00:50:51
against the limit of how much data they can get from your phone the smartphone is so good that they have all of the
00:50:58
data and they are not letting anyone else touch that much data so if you're going to make something that lives on
00:51:04
someone's body and collects information and is useful to you it has to do that independent of the smartphone and that
00:51:10
is so hard so I think the glasses are the well it can be connected and just be no it can be connected but the
00:51:16
information that the smartphone has it's not given up to you so the the the glasses stand the best chance I think
00:51:23
half the people in front of me have glasses on it's like very natural to have glasses um but it is it is a serious challenge yeah
00:51:29
I think the absolute best way to drive adoption of a new technology is to integrate it into an existing piece of
00:51:35
Hardware that people already use yep so AI for example on SmartWatches on earbuds on your phone yeah they can all sort of interact with each other everyone wears well a lot of people are
00:51:46
watches most people use earbuds and so just integrating that technology into these existing devices that everyone's
00:51:52
using every day already and then it's like oh there's an additional thing you can do with it a lot easier than saying like oh throw your phone in the trash
00:51:59
and stick a pin on your chest man everyone loves that you know tough sell tag Us in that video I want to see it
00:52:06
last question wait Adam we got to get this guy up here has been has his hand up he can be he can be last question you
00:52:12
want to get yeah okay Adam can do his and then we'll do one more do we we have time we'll just do okay I'm Cody from
00:52:19
Austin Texas I'd love you know you spend most of your time reviewing other people's products but I'm wondering if
00:52:25
you had unlimited resources what kind of technology or product would you want to
00:52:30
create and why crumple phone crumple phone would be sick I I get asked all the time if I'm if I would like to make a smartphone and the answer is always like well I mean that's an insanely competitive market and I don't
00:52:41
have that kind of time but if I had unlimited resources I think I would want to make my own ideal phone for myself
00:52:49
which is an exciting idea but it's really hard yeah we we we did that question earlier kind of yeah and no would want to buy anything from me anyways so yeah I just said an ISP that
00:52:59
doesn't suck basically um who who was one more right up front over here here I see you I'm coming here and then we're going to do trivia let's get it thanks
00:53:11
from London anyone uh well shout out anyway so thank you for the last question yeah you spoke about a lot
00:53:16
about Ai and stuff um I just wanted to know for YouTube itself do you feel like it's going to help the creativity cuz I want to enter that field um just graduate so just yeah do you think it's
00:53:27
going to boost creativity or kind of just make the content really similar so yeah just a quick F both yeah so I think
00:53:36
the trend since I've started making videos online has been that the barrier for entry has gotten lower and lower and
00:53:42
lower so it's easier and easier for anyone with an internet connection to make something which is awesome that's exciting it's made the masses of like tons of YouTube videos being able to
00:53:53
come out super super cool what's also happened is the ceiling has gotten Higher and Higher and that means that
00:54:00
the production value the amazing stuff you get to see people doing full-time has gotten more and more amazing I'm
00:54:05
going to a panel right after this where we're talking about should YouTube creators win traditional Awards like
00:54:10
Oscars like that's how high the ceiling has gotten and I think AI has been pushing it in both directions so I think
00:54:17
the floor getting lower is like anyone with an internet connection can generate a cool script can fact check it can make
00:54:23
can come up with super cool ideas and can start making you video just like that and I think using AI as a tool to
00:54:31
brainstorm and think of new unique ways to do things and come up with ideas that have never been done before and then how
00:54:37
to execute on them and using all these tools to try to make something that's never been made is raising the ceiling
00:54:42
more and more so I think it's both um I'm hopefully using AI to do the that one um but I understand that like everyone wants to make YouTube videos and I think that that's going to be something we see a lot more of with AI
00:54:54
too yeah I think it's a combination of there's a lot AI slop being thrown on YouTube right now which is really like
00:55:00
destroying a lot of the stuff on there but at the same time it also makes it so you stand out more if you're actually a
00:55:06
good human that is making human content instead of the slop content so if you're used to seeing slop and then you see
00:55:11
something that's actually pretty good uh it looks even better so there's that too
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yeah I think it's time okay so the last part of what we're going to do here with our final few minutes is we had you all
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fill out that survey at the beginning and if you if you have watched away for me you know we like to have a little bit of trivia on the show so what we're
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going to do is have Ellis pull up the answers to your trivia questions I have the answers and I don't think we have the white boards the one thing we brought for this trip was our whiteboards and we did not bring
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them cool we will just say our answers out loud say our an at the same time we'll each say our answers and then Ellis will be the judge of who wins the trivia Point who knows this audience the
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best okay we're going to we got to speed through these we're running out of time so get ready boys Adam H
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it Adam hit it that's right everybody Welcome to trivia all right we asked everyone in this room do you have a case on your phone David what percent prices right
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rules a people in this room have a case on their phone prices right rules prices right rules um
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81 fantastic Andrew 95 95 Marquez 70 5 Marquez gets it it was 80 I'm sorry David oh my God I was believe 81 question number two what
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is the number one feature people in this room look for when buying a smartphone between performance camera battery build
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quality and the display I'm going to go camera camera battery you're all wrong it was performance W what they're all good you
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can buy any phone all right question number three what was the worst piece of Attack released in 2024 I'm going to do
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as many of this as we got time for the Humane pin the Humane pin the Humane pin Marquez somebody yeah it's the Humane
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pin it's the Humane pin by far but notable answers include Apple intelligence and uh someone put Blue Sky
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didn't like that Wow Let's Go All wait wait someone wow rude final question guys yeah who
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had the worst takes on waveform in 2024 no no David didn't know this was a question uh Andrew Andrew I'll say Andrew Andrew I think it they said it
00:57:35
was me no the answer is no me you're all haters and I love it h we did that pretty were there any other questions that was way faster than I expected we do you think more people
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in here do video or audio oh listen to the podcast video or audio yeah can you just tell us the answer no I want to guess I want to guess I want to guess I want to guess I think that more people
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in here do video video I'll go oh wasn't there a third option of I don't listen to wa for and I'm not sure why I'm here now number of you have never heard of wave for I don't know if that was I think there's a QR code to subscribe on
00:58:15
the side just saying it's any they're all here for today explained which is coming up next here I'll go audio video
00:58:22
uh the answer was video let's go uh I'll be real I was not not keeping track of who got points so we're going to need to
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review the tape but as of this season David is still crushing and I will crash and burn in the Extravaganza for sure yes we have four minutes is there like
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one we have four minutes is there one more question because we cannot go over there's a lot more I'm really Sor for some speed some speed questions yeah uh
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all right you had your hand up earlier and I missed you how y'all doing Alfredo from San
00:58:55
Diego I really asked question so I'm a longterm SE user brother SE wave heyo Touch ID love hate the notch where do I go next because I'm sorry to say that
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uh yeah Touch ID is gone it's going to be gone and so you might as well go 16e which is a crazy recommendation but look so if you have it depends on your budget I I can ask you a thousand questions but
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I think in general now that touch ID has gone the Wayside and like face is a thing you can healthily go with almost
00:59:28
any of the newest three iPhones the breaker was No.5 selfie so that's tough so 16 then
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15 are you opposed to Android yes I kind of figured that you questions bu buy another used SE just go forever cool another one real quick yeah
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[Music] yeah hey JT and Austin so marus going back to your your first uh Tesla Model S when you did videos you had a anote of being at an intersection car coming up
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to you from the back and you felt your Tesla was moving a little bit nudging and so there's other consumers at the
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time it it seemed like that was kind of thing again I think that Tesla were able to do going back to then and what you
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know now do you feel like that was a feature that it was doing or is just it well that was a long time ago uh I don't
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remember exactly if I know so I'm a fan of like the car having sensors and being
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able to intervene when it detect something happening and has done that in multiple directions and multiple times
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over the course of my ownership of those cars so I'm generally a fan of that all right thank you my name is Jack I study
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mechanical engineering in Germany and uh I used chbt for almost everything when working on my car or um learning from
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math or physics or anything and I just think I submit so much data and we're all talking about getting AI on the
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phone and I just think when it's in the app and maybe on my internet browser in my photos and in my WhatsApp and in
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everything what is your take on this whole data privacy thing you know what I mean like isn't that like at least a bit
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concerning we're always talking about getting more AI more on the phone on the on the glasses on on the on the pin I
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just think about yeah maybe data privacy might be a thing yeah I just yeah that's my we have 10 seconds to answer so like
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I my high level take my high level take is that there is constantly a question that these companies and all of us are
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asking about the direct tradeoff between how much data you have to give up and the convenience that you get back from
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it and the more they push that envelope of well you have to give up more data but you get more convenience okay you
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have to give up more data but you get more features and convenience people tend to take the convenience with it so
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yes data privacy is a concern and for a lot of people in this room they don't want that trade-off anymore but I've
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seen it get pushed really really far and we get really cool features out of it so I think those companies are going to keep pushing it and keep trying to offer
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more things in exchange for our data cool we are overtime now and before we get physically kicked off of the stage thank you all for coming seriously this was super fun appreciate
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it all right that was it that was a lot of fun thanks again for uh for the people who were there for submitting all
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the answers to the the survey and for everyone who gave us ideas on what to do we thought it turned out pretty good but
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there is one thing that we didn't get to do on stage which is Andrew you didn't get to read us out didn't read out live
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a little sad but um huge thanks to the VOX media team who set all of that up and let us do our first live show
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totally no issues at all it was awesome smooth sailing and slido actually helped us with the survey thing that went
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really smoothly too definitely recommend that for a live show like that and um other than that waveform was produced by
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Adam Molina and Ellis Roven we're partnered with VOX media podcast Network and music was created by v s
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