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I tweeted just a screenshot of the
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Google slide that just said, "Book two
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floor seats to this concert." And then
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in the video, the person just clicks it
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and then that's the end of the
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interaction. And they're like, "Yep,
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>> got the tickets."
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>> What? No, that's not how this works.
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>> Yo, what is up people of the internet?
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Welcome back to another episode of the
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Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts. I'm
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Marquez.
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>> I'm Adam.
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>> I'm Mariah. Right.
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>> Got a new setup today. This is Is this
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You know how when there's like a new
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Sorry, it's an NBA podcast already. You
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have like a new lineup that's not played
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>> in the playoffs like for the first time.
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The Sixers probably did this. You have a
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lineup of like a group of people who
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have never played at the same time
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together. This is like the current
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arrangement.
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>> Yeah. I'm supposed to be on the bench,
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but for some reason they put me over
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here.
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>> But you've been I think it's been You've
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been there, Mariah's here. No, David was
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here. You were there.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So, it's it's like a shuffle.
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>> Yeah. Listen, we're down by 30. It's the
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fourth quarter. We got to try anything.
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It's a Tuesday. It's great. Uh today we
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watch the Android show. So we've got all
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sorts of thoughts on all of what they've
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announced. We also can talk a little bit
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about the death/rebirth of Fitbit cuz
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that happened.
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>> And also we have a game that uh I have
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no idea what we're actually me,
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>> but there are buzzers here.
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>> Yeah.
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>> So it surely will be fun.
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>> I asked Ellis yesterday like, "Hey,
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how's how's the game coming along? Do
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you need me to like prep anything?" And
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he's like, "Don't worry about it."
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>> That makes me a little bit nervous.
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Excited, but nervous. Let's get
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>> Exactly.
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>> Uh but first, did they even test this?
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>> This is a
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>> I hear Ellis has one.
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>> Yeah, an Ellis special today.
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>> Well, now I'm like scared to do they
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even test this because the last time I
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did it, I was the one that did not test
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it and was was proven wrong. But
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>> I have recently switched back from Apple
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Watch to Garmin as my fitness tracker of
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choice.
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>> Oh, you're on Android now?
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>> Hey. Hey.
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>> Oh boy. Um I don't know. after the
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Android show today. But um
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>> I so I've been trying to link it with my
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Strava
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>> and uh which has just proved to be like
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a deathdeying nightmare.
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>> It's been a mess for so long
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>> and it just results in this thing where
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this like endless loop where I go into
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the Garmin app and try or I go into
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Strava the Strava app.
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>> Mhm.
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>> I have to be really specific here. Go
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into the Strava app, hit connect device,
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choose Garmin. It opens the Garmin app.
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The Garmin app is then like, "Okay,
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let's now connect your Strava and Garmin
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accounts." I'm like, "Bet." Then it goes
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to straa.com
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where it makes me sign in for some
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reason. So, I sign into my Strava
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account on straa.com and then it goes,
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"Great, we're in. Now, we need to go
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back to the Garmin app." And then I go
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back to the Garmin app and the Garmin
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app goes, "It failed."
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>> And I
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>> So, did you get in?
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>> No. I've done this about 50 times, like
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hoping that it goes differently.
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>> You're still not in? No. Oh my god.
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>> Um, so
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>> they were supposed to have fixed this
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like a few years ago. They did like a
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whole announcement post about it. Yeah.
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Like literally like two or three years
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ago. They were like,
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>> "We're now connected with Strava. You no
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longer have to worry about this." But I
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guess I guess it's still an issue.
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>> Damn.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Damn. That blows for you.
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>> Nobody tested it.
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>> There is one other thing that blows for
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me.
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>> Oh no.
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>> No.
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>> He's wearing his shirt already,
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>> guys.
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After several weeks, it's a funeral
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>> of hopeful bliss, I would say, the
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Philadelphia 76ers have been knocked out
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of the NBA playoffs. After an amazing
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first round, they were swept in four
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games by the New York Knicker boxers.
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I You could be sad or you could choose
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to revel in what an amazing year we had.
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We watched VJ drop 30 over and over
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again as a rookie. We watched Andre
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Drummond to learn how to shoot
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three-pointers. We watched Kyle Lowry
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say goodbye to the NBA. I think damn,
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>> maybe.
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>> We watched Nick Nurse develop complex
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systems. And most of all, we watched the
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greatest hero in American history, Joel
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Embiid.
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>> Overcome
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countless obstacles and ascend to
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basketball greatness. Philadelphia
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76ers, I love you.
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>> How did you time that so perfectly? Did
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you practice this?
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>> No.
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Also, for all of our uh
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Scandinavian/Nordic
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audience members who are confused why I
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used a Christmas hymn for that. Uh I
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just like the way it sounded and they
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don't know anything about that stuff. So
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nice.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Wow.
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>> I don't know where to go from here.
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>> I'm trying to make a broom pun to move
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to the next thing. I don't know if I can
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think of one.
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>> You know who else swept the stage?
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>> Ah.
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>> Ah, Samir.
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>> Samir from Google. Uh okay. Okay, so the
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Android show, the preio Android show is
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this week and we we talked a little bit
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about it before how they were sort of
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hyping up. Samir is one of the ones on
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Twitter who was like this is going to be
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>> one of the I think they said the biggest
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update to Android yet.
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>> Asterisk.
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>> It's a lot it's a lot of hype, a lot of
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promises. Uh, but we finally did get
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that promise and they gave us this
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wonderful 45minute video of very human
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uh, presentation and uh, a ton of new
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features through Android, Android Auto,
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through Gemini intelligence and through
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uh, some we'll talk about all of that.
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>> Yeah, we got to censor you saying though
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that out
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>> why?
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>> Cuz that's what they did during the
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event.
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>> They bleeped out Google Books
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>> right at the beginning. He tried to leak
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Google Books.
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>> Oh,
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>> and he said it and then they bleeped it
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and he was like, "Well, you can fix it
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in post, right?" And it was like one of
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those like Haha, I'm a person, too. Make
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mistakes.
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>> So human, Google.
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>> Um, yeah, that was great. Anyway, so
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let's talk about Android first, maybe.
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>> Sure.
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>> Cuz that was So, we're looking forward
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to Android updates. Android 17 is what
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the new version is going to be called.
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>> Um, they did the thing first of all that
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they do every time where they're like,
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all this stuff is coming first to Pixels
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and Samsung Galaxy S. Yes.
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>> So, some of us in here are very happy
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about that. They uh they tend to do
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that. They tend to put Samsung right at
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the forefront of a lot of the software
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stuff. Cool.
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>> How do you feel about that as a OnePlus
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boy now?
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>> I'm a OnePlus 15 user. I do have a
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mention of that later in this. Um but
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yeah, it's fine. You know, we'll get
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that stuff eventually at some point.
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>> At some point.
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>> Yeah. Um so here's a couple of things
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that we got. We got some slightly
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updated aesthetics. We got a lot of the
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Gemini stuff is what's updated
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aesthetically. So a little new
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animation. And it's a little bit glassy,
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but not really. When you're talking to
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it, then when it's thinking, then when
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it's executing.
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>> Yeah, that had me nervous for a second.
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I thought they were doing a whole
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redesign. It seems to be just for
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Gemini, right?
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>> Yeah. Whenever you long press the button
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and Gemini pops up or you're doing
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something with Gemini, that's what the
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redesign is.
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>> Yeah. And spoiler, a lot of what's new
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with Android is Gemini related, and
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that's why they're calling it the
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biggest update yet, because AI big AI
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very important to Google. Um I some of
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the stuff that was interesting screen
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reactions I thought was a cool uh
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feature.
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>> So you know how you see one of those uh
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Instagram or Tik Tok real videos where
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it's just a person in front of whatever
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they're talking about? That's like a
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mode built into the camera now. You can
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just do that.
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>> It's great built into Android.
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>> Yeah, I think this is going to slap.
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>> It's going to just make that format so
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much easier for so many people.
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>> Yeah,
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>> it's great.
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>> Listen, do you guys follow Cardi B on
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Instagram?
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>> Cardi B?
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>> I don't think so, actually.
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>> Okay. Well, she has these like weekly
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rants where she's just talking to the
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camera on Instagram and just going off
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about whatever's going on in her life.
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Just loves this. It's very entertaining.
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>> She is going to use the hell out of this
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assuming she ever leaves iPhone, which
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she probably won't.
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>> But is she going to have an Android
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phone?
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>> Yeah. People that do that kind of like
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content. This is going to be insane.
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>> Paris Hilton's going to be making videos
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with this for sure.
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>> Surely.
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>> Surely.
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Motorola stream.
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>> Um, there's also some more plugs with
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things like Instagram. So, some of this
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has existed already in the past, but
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some more native integration with using
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the camera built into Instagram. You can
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have HDR content supported. You can have
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all of the processing supported uh,
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which is nice.
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>> I remember they did this a few years ago
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with Snapchat, I think it was, where
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they like implemented the Google camera
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directly into Snapchat so that it
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wouldn't be such like
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>> quality. Yes, I do remember this
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happening.
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>> Yeah, they had a name and everything and
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they and they were very proud of it and
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it was just the Pixel and now they're
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doing more of it. So,
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>> also Samsung
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>> and Samsung as well.
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>> So, great.
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>> They're there.
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>> That's coming to the forefront.
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>> Um, there is a feature called pause
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point.
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>> Yeah,
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>> it's an interesting implementation. What
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you've probably already seen on the
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iPhone is screen time where you can
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specifically decide to limit the number
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of minutes, let's say, in a day that you
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can spend on a certain app.
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>> I mean, Google has this too though.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. the what is it called?
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>> It's digital wellbeing.
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>> Thank you. Yes, digital
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>> wellbeing. When you get to the end of
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that timer, it kicks you out the app,
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you can't open it anymore or unless you
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decide to bypass it, whatever.
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>> This is a new version of that that is a
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little bit more of a 50/50 split. It
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it's you open the app that you want to
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have restrictions on
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>> and then it shames you into closing the
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app.
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>> Once you're in it, it pops up this pause
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screen and it it tells you like just
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remember why you're here. Remember what
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you meant to do when you opened your
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phone. And I think some of the examples
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were like you can scroll through
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pictures of your pet or something while
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you remember.
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>> There was like a cool down timer first.
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>> Yes. Like 20 seconds or something.
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>> I don't know if after that then it shows
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you pictures of your loved ones, but
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>> yeah. So like think of who you're
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disappointing here as you doom scroll.
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>> The one that was like have you have you
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thought about your goals?
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>> Like I know you're about to open subway
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servers, but
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>> have you thought about grinding right
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now instead?
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>> Yeah. Don't you want to be a productive
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person? It is a different take on
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limiting your screen time. Uh
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I don't know. I I'm not going to use
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that either, but
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>> I like it. I know that you're very anti
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these.
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>> I guess if I was someone who was already
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trying to rely on screen time, I would
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find this maybe refreshing or at least
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interesting and different. I'd try it.
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>> I'll report back and try it.
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>> The digital well-being restrictions
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literally do nothing for me. Same. I
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think they mentioned something about it
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also restarting your phone to like
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disable it or something. So like another
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thing to have to bypass it. It makes it
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harder. Yeah.
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>> Um I don't think
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>> this will stop me. I'm not going to lie.
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>> I thought if I was a Google lawyer, that
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whole section would have made me sweat
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bullets
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>> because like because like six weeks ago,
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Google lost a ginormous court case that
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they can be found liable for making
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addicting products. They got sued
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because of YouTube's algorithm being too
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addicting.
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>> Ellis, you think that the different
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parts of Google talk to each other?
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>> As soon as like a Google employee was
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like, do you ever feel like you're using
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your phone without thinking about it or
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like you unconsciously pull out your
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phone? I was like, that's kind of you
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admitting it's a little addictive.
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>> Yeah. But
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>> but it's fine cuz now we can watch
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YouTube in the car while we
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>> Listen, the product people make things.
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The lawyers lawyer it out. That's their
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problem. Product people are like, I'm
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just going to make this. I feel like
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there's a couple apps that are really
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associated with opening it and then
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mindlessly scrolling and then forgetting
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how much time you spent and those are
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Instagram, Tik Tok, and Twitter.
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>> Yeah, you're so right.
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>> And now you can do less of that or you
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can just uninstall it to bypass all of
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it.
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>> The whole thing of this product is like
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you have this impulse to open your phone
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and they want to make you wait like 10
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15 seconds to just like see if that's
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actually what you want to do, right? Do
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you know the other thing in American
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society that you employs that tactic?
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Firearm sales. In like a lot of states,
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if you want to buy a gun, they make you
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wait like 3 to 10 days to be like, are
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you sure you actually need a gun?
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I was like, that is a weird thing like
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to use the gun strat for.
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>> I guess it's an impulse buy for
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>> maybe the wrong reasons.
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>> Exactly. Anyway,
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>> I think we should have that for
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microtransactions. We should have a
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little cool down timer.
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>> Yeah. Yeah. I wonder can you put this
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per You have to be able to put this per
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app, right?
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>> Yeah.
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>> So I can like set this on I don't know
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like my text messages or something.
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>> Why would you want to put on
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>> Not that I would want to, but you could
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in theory make you don't text instantly.
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>> Mom text you. You're like I can't I
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can't right now. And then a picture of
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her like comes on the screen.
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>> No, I actually like this feature because
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I like you, Mariah, I've tried these
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digital well-being like timer block
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things and it just doesn't work. like I
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can very easily just unlock it, put my
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fingerprint, whatever. Um, giving me
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that little slight pause to be like, are
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you sure? I think that's going to work
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because I'm going to be like, "No, you
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know what? You're right. I'm I don't
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want to do this. It's fine." Like, I
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have that tick and this will stop me
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from doing that tick.
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>> I feel like everyone has the moment
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where they're on their phone and they're
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like they snap out of it. They're like,
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"Why? Why am I here?
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>> What day is it?
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>> Where what am I doing?" You know,
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>> I think that's that that's valid cuz
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people they get to that point and it's
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been like 10 minutes and they don't
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realize what they were just doing
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because I also think there's a lot of
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people who have the screen time thing
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set, but the muscle memory is just to
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open it and immediately bypass it.
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>> And so you're in anyway now. So this
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will interrupt you
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>> before you get to that point of 10
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minutes later being like, why is it dark
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outside?
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>> So it's it's different. Yeah,
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>> it's different.
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>> What are you What app are you putting
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this on?
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>> Me personally? Yeah. Oh, I have just
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this whole thing called like discipline
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where
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>> Okay. Okay. where I just
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>> You have an internal timer that once it
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hits five minutes, you close the app.
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>> Well, if I have something to do, I do
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that. I just Maybe it's just me. But if
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I've pulled out my phone to do a task,
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>> I'm pretty focused on like getting to do
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that task and then maybe I'll doom
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scroll. But
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>> But how long are you doom scrolling for?
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Like you don't fall down a rabbit hole
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and just wake up 20 minutes later.
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>> Uh you're done with your task. You're
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just chilling on the couch. It's not
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gotten to the point where it's like,
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boy, do I need a feature
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to show me pictures of my pets or
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something.
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>> You mean our pets?
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>> Yeah. So, I don't know. Maybe I'll get
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there.
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>> I'm like halfway between you guys. Like,
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I never doom scroll for more than like
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45 seconds, but when I'm having a bad no
00:13:51
discipline day, it is sort of like I do
00:13:54
45 second doom scrolls once every like
00:13:56
six minutes, you know? Like,
00:13:58
>> so
00:13:58
>> it's okay. We're built different and you
00:14:00
know, that's fine. See, with me, I'm
00:14:02
like one or the other. I can either
00:14:03
scroll for like 45 seconds and be like,
00:14:05
"Yeah, I'm done." Or some days I will
00:14:08
get on the couch and I'm like, "I'm not
00:14:09
doing nothing tonight but scrolling."
00:14:11
Like, that's it. My next two hours are
00:14:13
going to be down this Tik Tok rabbit
00:14:14
hole.
00:14:16
>> If it I wonder how long it takes to
00:14:18
interrupt you. If it sees you scroll for
00:14:19
like
00:14:20
>> whatever, let's say you're in that app
00:14:21
for like 30 seconds.
00:14:24
>> Pro. Yeah, it didn't show the UI, but
00:14:25
maybe it'll let you set the time.
00:14:27
>> This reminds me, isn't there a thing on
00:14:28
the iPhone? Sorry, this is a tangent.
00:14:30
Um, that tells you you're holding the
00:14:31
phone too close to your eyes.
00:14:33
>> That was another one. I've never had
00:14:34
that
00:14:35
>> turned on. No.
00:14:36
>> What?
00:14:36
>> I think Marina tried that once and I
00:14:39
>> I don't know how I feel.
00:14:41
>> It's supposed to
00:14:42
>> close back up.
00:14:43
>> It's supposed to protect you and
00:14:44
probably a lot of younger people who are
00:14:46
just like this who are holding it right
00:14:47
up to their face. And maybe if you do
00:14:49
that too much, that's bad for your eyes.
00:14:50
So, just sort of warning you to not do
00:14:53
that so much. Yeah, I think the one
00:14:54
other big feature here in Android is
00:14:56
Airdrop support coming to way more
00:15:00
devices. So, AirDrop and Android are now
00:15:02
compatible essentially at least well in
00:15:05
both directions I think. Uh, and it is
00:15:08
out the gates now for S26 series, Pixel
00:15:10
10's, Pixel 9's, Pixel 8a, Oppo Find X9
00:15:13
series and Find N6, Vivo X300 Ultra and
00:15:17
coming soon to a bunch of others
00:15:18
including my OnePlus 15.
00:15:20
>> How long do you think that is?
00:15:21
>> I have no idea. I'm not hold I'm not
00:15:23
crossing my fingers. I I I literally use
00:15:26
Blip for that now. I'm not like reliant
00:15:28
on it. But it is neat that that is one
00:15:30
of the things breaking down the
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ecosystem wall.
00:15:32
>> It's weird. I don't see the Pixel 6 on
00:15:34
this list.
00:15:35
>> Yeah. When are we going to get to older
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phones?
00:15:37
>> Oh yeah. All the way back to 8a. That's
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the like oldest one.
00:15:40
>> It's not bad.
00:15:40
>> I wonder why. It can't be like a
00:15:43
hardware limitation.
00:15:44
>> I don't know. You know, it was funny
00:15:46
when we did that like shooting every
00:15:47
single iPhone photo
00:15:49
>> uh from every generation from 17 to one.
00:15:51
>> Yeah. Getting the photos off of the
00:15:54
iPhone was really easy from the iPhone
00:15:57
17 down all the way to a certain phone
00:15:59
where Airdrop was no longer a feature.
00:16:03
Which phone, this is a random trivia
00:16:05
question, which phone do you think was
00:16:06
the first one that I couldn't just air
00:16:08
drop it to myself?
00:16:11
>> iPhone
00:16:13
7.
00:16:14
>> I want to say
00:16:17
I'm just going to say eight.
00:16:18
>> Eight.
00:16:20
I don't actually remember exactly which
00:16:21
one,
00:16:22
>> but it was like the 4S. It was like
00:16:24
really far.
00:16:26
>> I got really far and Andrew had to go
00:16:27
from like plugging him into the
00:16:28
computer. Crazy.
00:16:29
>> Have you ever had to root around in like
00:16:31
the um iPhone folders on like a PC
00:16:33
before?
00:16:34
>> That's what we had to do for the first
00:16:35
time. Terrible. It was really tough.
00:16:38
Yeah.
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>> Rough.
00:16:39
>> So, okay. How many people here use
00:16:41
Android Auto? That was the other big
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update.
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>> I do
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>> every day.
00:16:45
>> Pretty big deal. Android Auto got a
00:16:46
really big update. probably bigger than
00:16:48
the rest of the updates to Android
00:16:49
itself.
00:16:50
>> Um, the aesthetics, the visual updates.
00:16:52
So, it's got this lane guidance now. It
00:16:54
has this 3D view with way more detailed
00:16:57
topography and mapping stuff,
00:16:59
overpasses, bridges,
00:17:01
>> all that stuff.
00:17:02
>> If you took Apple Maps and like Tesla
00:17:04
maps and make them had a baby.
00:17:05
>> Yeah, it like Apple Maps had a lot of
00:17:07
this unique, not cartoony, but sort of
00:17:09
like 3D look to it. And now this has a
00:17:11
lot of that, too.
00:17:12
>> It's funny. It feels like it was
00:17:13
inspired by some of those like social
00:17:14
media posts that are like putting Apple
00:17:16
Maps and Google Maps side by side. So
00:17:17
now it's got it's got all of that.
00:17:19
>> Uh and it also has way more features
00:17:21
like the ability to watch full screen
00:17:24
60fps videos in whatever screen is in
00:17:27
your car that has Android Auto on it.
00:17:28
>> Hate this.
00:17:29
>> But I think that's only when you're
00:17:31
parked and probably specifically for
00:17:33
electric cars, like when you're
00:17:34
charging.
00:17:35
>> I really hope so because otherwise it
00:17:36
makes no sense.
00:17:37
>> I'm going to test this immediately.
00:17:39
>> It's a good idea.
00:17:40
>> I'm going to find out.
00:17:41
>> Do you have an electric car? No. No, but
00:17:42
like I have Android Auto in my car.
00:17:44
>> So, you're just going to like park it
00:17:45
and sit there and watch a YouTube video?
00:17:46
>> I want to see if it even knows if I'm in
00:17:48
park.
00:17:49
>> It probably does. It's smart enough to
00:17:51
know.
00:17:51
>> Well, it has GPS, so it'll know if
00:17:53
you're moving or not. Yeah, but you
00:17:54
could fool that.
00:17:55
>> It's smart enough to at least It turns
00:17:57
down my media when I'm in reverse, so it
00:17:58
probably knows if I'm in park or not.
00:18:00
>> So, it did have a UI thing where when
00:18:02
you switch into drive, it moves that
00:18:04
video off screen and continues playing
00:18:06
the audio in the background.
00:18:07
>> That was cool.
00:18:08
>> That was cool. That's the thing I have
00:18:09
the most questions about because one, it
00:18:11
was Android Auto, not like built into
00:18:13
the car. How does it know you switched
00:18:14
into drive?
00:18:15
>> Yes.
00:18:16
>> Like your your phone doesn't know that
00:18:17
your car switched into drive. You didn't
00:18:19
start driving it. Two, I thought
00:18:21
background audio play was a YouTube
00:18:23
premium feature.
00:18:24
>> If it's if it's on a nonpremium account,
00:18:27
does it just pause?
00:18:28
>> That's a good question. Not sure what
00:18:29
happens.
00:18:30
>> I think the YouTube Premium play was
00:18:31
only
00:18:33
when you like lock the screen and the
00:18:35
screen turns off.
00:18:36
>> Yeah. So, if I'm watching a video on my
00:18:37
screen, turn the screen off, the video
00:18:39
pauses,
00:18:39
>> but it's playing on the car screen,
00:18:41
which never turns off.
00:18:43
>> Uh, but it does hide the video.
00:18:46
>> Yeah, it hides it over in like a UI
00:18:48
thing, but you know,
00:18:48
>> in the in the phone world, that's kind
00:18:51
of the equivalent of like turning the
00:18:53
screen off, maybe.
00:18:53
>> That's weird.
00:18:54
>> I'm not really sure how that works yet.
00:18:55
We got to test that.
00:18:56
>> Didn't they say it was with like certain
00:18:58
partners? Maybe that's how it knows that
00:18:59
the car is in park and stuff.
00:19:01
>> Yeah, it was I think there was like 16
00:19:03
different brands. Yeah, something like
00:19:04
that.
00:19:04
>> We'll have to see. But I I am curious to
00:19:06
see how effective that is. Um, but yeah,
00:19:08
immersive navigation with redesigned
00:19:10
visuals and yeah, zoom in the car. You
00:19:13
can do zoom on the screen in the car.
00:19:15
That part was crazy.
00:19:16
>> Are you going to be zooming in the car?
00:19:17
>> I've never I've never wanted to do that.
00:19:19
You can do that in Teslas already. I've
00:19:20
also never wanted to do that in my
00:19:21
Tesla.
00:19:22
>> Uh, long time. Never wanted to do it.
00:19:24
>> I assume that's also audio only.
00:19:27
>> No.
00:19:28
>> Video while driving.
00:19:29
>> It's not while driving. I don't think I
00:19:31
think that should also be
00:19:32
>> They didn't say no.
00:19:33
>> They didn't clarify. So,
00:19:34
>> but it should also be well parked. It
00:19:36
should be, but it probably is.
00:19:37
>> Um, but yeah, taking a meeting in the
00:19:39
car on that car screen.
00:19:41
>> They made an interesting point. They
00:19:42
said that the the speakers in your car
00:19:45
for most people are the best speakers
00:19:46
you own.
00:19:47
>> Dude,
00:19:47
>> I've never thought about I knew it.
00:19:49
>> I knew I want to hear your take on this,
00:19:51
but my first reaction to that was like
00:19:53
that might be true for a lot of people.
00:19:54
>> Yeah, it is. It's definitely true for a
00:19:56
lot of people, unfortunately. Sad. So
00:19:58
now that that line with Paris Hilton of
00:20:00
like my car is my personal movie
00:20:01
theater. At first that was really cringy
00:20:03
but then I'm like I mean the screen's
00:20:04
not good but it is the it is the best
00:20:07
speakers you have. So
00:20:08
>> I would I would say that's accurate.
00:20:10
>> Mhm.
00:20:10
>> I would say so.
00:20:11
>> But why would you watch a video on like
00:20:13
a little 4 in screen?
00:20:14
>> So the video part gets weird because the
00:20:17
Bluetooth lag is sometimes pretty
00:20:18
dramatic. Like I don't want to watch a
00:20:20
movie with a second and a half of lag to
00:20:21
the speakers. So then I guess I do want
00:20:24
to watch it on the screen in the car.
00:20:25
But that's never a good screen. Ever.
00:20:27
>> Ever.
00:20:28
>> So, I don't know how I feel about
00:20:30
watching a movie in the car. But if
00:20:32
you're charging and you're sitting there
00:20:33
with an EV for 45 minutes, maybe waiting
00:20:36
for a charger and then it's a slow
00:20:37
charge, whatever, it's a way to burn the
00:20:39
time.
00:20:39
>> Yeah. Ellis is going to watch Dune on
00:20:41
the big screen in the car.
00:20:43
>> That sounds pretty fun.
00:20:44
>> Oh, just like, you know, when you're
00:20:48
learning how to do audio stuff,
00:20:49
especially music stuff, like a big part
00:20:51
is learning how to make your mixes
00:20:53
translate to a car and
00:20:55
you want to like check stuff in a car
00:20:57
because car speakers are like
00:20:58
universally the weirdest
00:21:00
>> like this like the way something sounds
00:21:01
in a studio it'll sound kind of similar
00:21:03
in a lot of speakers and then in a car
00:21:05
it'll sound completely different somehow
00:21:07
>> and so yeah definitely hearing but I
00:21:09
guess compared to almost any sound bar
00:21:11
probably a car is like better
00:21:13
>> and most people only have sound bars in
00:21:16
their homes.
00:21:16
>> Yeah.
00:21:16
>> Damn that sad way to bum me out.
00:21:22
So, big Android update, Android Auto
00:21:25
update coming. The last piece of the
00:21:27
puzzle though is Gemini Intelligence,
00:21:29
which of course they're probably going
00:21:31
to talk way more about at Google IO.
00:21:33
>> Yeah.
00:21:33
>> Uh, but we did get some new intelligence
00:21:36
features. They kept calling it an what
00:21:38
did they say? An intelligence.
00:21:40
>> It's not an operating system right now,
00:21:41
right? It's a
00:21:42
>> It's an intelligence.
00:21:42
>> Intelligence system.
00:21:44
>> It's an intelligence. Okay. So, what's
00:21:46
new? So, what's the intelligence system?
00:21:48
Uh, okay. There are more agentic
00:21:51
features from Gemini. It can take action
00:21:54
for you through your apps and use your
00:21:56
apps for you. And also some smaller
00:21:59
things like autofill, like uh better
00:22:03
speech to text where it removes a lot of
00:22:05
the filler words and you can speak in
00:22:07
two different languages and it'll it'll
00:22:08
work at the same time.
00:22:09
>> Those were probably the best use cases
00:22:12
of these new features.
00:22:13
>> I think the smallest ones were the best
00:22:14
ones. like they should have leaned hard
00:22:15
into those cuz that's like everyday life
00:22:17
things versus their weird examples that
00:22:20
I'll sure I'm sure you'll bring up, but
00:22:22
like
00:22:22
>> yeah,
00:22:23
>> using Gemini to book concert tickets or
00:22:25
something is just insane behavior.
00:22:27
>> That was my Okay, that was my take. So,
00:22:29
I tweeted this. I tweeted just a
00:22:30
screenshot of the Google slide that just
00:22:33
said, "Book two floor seats to this
00:22:35
concert."
00:22:36
>> And then in the video, the person just
00:22:39
clicks it and then that's the end of the
00:22:41
interaction. and they're like, "Yep, got
00:22:43
the tickets."
00:22:44
>> What? No, that's not how this works.
00:22:47
That's also not even how I want it to
00:22:48
work. I want to shop around a little
00:22:49
bit. I actually want to engage with
00:22:51
this, pick the seats I want, pick the
00:22:53
best deal. Like, there are there's way
00:22:55
more nuance to it. Now, I tweeted this
00:22:57
and deer replied. He said, "Well,
00:22:59
there's only so much we could fit in a
00:23:00
sizzle reel. Of course, Gemini
00:23:01
Intelligence leaves the user in control
00:23:04
for the final checkout process."
00:23:06
>> He linked the article that describes it,
00:23:08
but I also don't see anything about the
00:23:09
final checkout process in here. So, I'm
00:23:11
curious to see what the rest of the
00:23:13
checkout process looks like.
00:23:14
>> Because like if they're showing this
00:23:16
while you're driving your car, they're
00:23:17
showing you can do all of this while
00:23:19
you're doing other things.
00:23:21
>> How thorough could it really be?
00:23:23
>> That's the other thing is how much do
00:23:25
you trust it? Because look, I've grown
00:23:28
up now in the age of AI making lots of
00:23:30
mistakes
00:23:31
>> old.
00:23:31
>> And it's getting better, yes, but I am
00:23:33
very familiar with AI hallucinating
00:23:35
things and making lots of mistakes. So
00:23:37
when when people say like booking
00:23:38
airplane tickets is a big screen
00:23:40
activity, I think what they really mean
00:23:41
is like I want to make sure I'm doing
00:23:42
this right and actually getting what I
00:23:44
want here and doing a single button
00:23:46
press in Gemini and then maybe two or
00:23:47
more steps in a checkout process
00:23:49
>> still doesn't feel like quite enough.
00:23:52
>> It feels like when people have like a
00:23:55
Google Home or a different like home
00:23:57
device and they're like I don't know,
00:23:58
buy me this thing and there's no
00:24:00
followup. It just feels very just like I
00:24:02
want it now.
00:24:04
>> Yeah. For some people, that's going to
00:24:05
be fine because they don't care which
00:24:07
version they just bought or how much it
00:24:08
cost or whatever or how how fast the
00:24:10
delivery is going to be or any of the
00:24:12
other steps. But yeah, I don't feel like
00:24:14
I would do that.
00:24:15
>> This is just going to be weird, too,
00:24:16
because there's so many concerts where
00:24:17
you end up like waiting in a queue, you
00:24:19
know, like you have 3 hours of waiting
00:24:22
before
00:24:22
>> even going to be any tickets left
00:24:23
anyway.
00:24:24
>> Exactly. Gemini scalp tickets.
00:24:26
>> Gemini is going to be on ticket master
00:24:27
like refreshing like the rest of us.
00:24:30
>> I guess they need to come up with better
00:24:31
examples because
00:24:32
>> So, they had a couple others. Yeah,
00:24:34
>> one of them was uh look at the syllabus
00:24:36
and buy all the textbooks required for
00:24:38
the semester.
00:24:38
>> No,
00:24:39
>> I'm like,
00:24:41
>> man, I don't know. I just I it's not fun
00:24:44
to shop for the best deal for textbooks,
00:24:46
but I don't want to just buy the
00:24:47
default,
00:24:48
>> you know, who can just pay anything as
00:24:50
student.
00:24:50
>> Yeah. Yeah. I really I think I'm going
00:24:52
to look at the listing and then go look
00:24:54
on eBay or look on Facebook Marketplace
00:24:56
for last year's semester like students
00:24:57
who are selling it. Like I I don't know.
00:24:59
>> No, just wait till you get to class, ask
00:25:01
who has the ebook. Yeah.
00:25:03
>> And then get the drive link.
00:25:05
>> Yeah. I'm very interested in the demo
00:25:07
they had for the food um delivery where
00:25:10
they were like, you know what I order
00:25:11
from the restaurant.
00:25:13
>> Send me that but double it.
00:25:14
>> You know what? That one
00:25:16
>> that one might work for me.
00:25:16
>> That one was close for me. That one was
00:25:18
the closest because I do have I have a
00:25:20
restaurant near me
00:25:21
>> and I have two things one or two things
00:25:24
that I always swap between and I order
00:25:26
from there. And I have this whole ritual
00:25:27
where if I'm like 15 minutes from home
00:25:29
like do I feel like cooking today? Not
00:25:30
really. I will, not while I'm driving,
00:25:33
but at a red light, I'll open the Uber
00:25:35
Eats app and go put in the order and and
00:25:38
go for pickup. And then when I'm at a
00:25:39
certain light, the same exact light
00:25:41
every single time, which is exactly 8
00:25:42
minutes away, I hit order, I check out,
00:25:44
and then when the light turns green, I
00:25:46
know that when I arrive, they're
00:25:47
finishing my order.
00:25:49
>> That's crazy. Isn't it that well timed?
00:25:51
>> Yeah. So, this is a routine enough thing
00:25:54
>> that in theory, I could just be driving
00:25:56
in the car and just say, "Hey, G,
00:25:59
>> order the thing."
00:26:00
>> Yeah. and uh it could do it,
00:26:02
>> which I think could be helpful. There's
00:26:03
been times where I've been on like a
00:26:04
road trip and I'm like I am driving
00:26:06
still and I can't stop because this is
00:26:08
like a 9-h hour drive. And it would be
00:26:10
nice if my food was waiting for me at a
00:26:12
future destination,
00:26:13
>> but that's pretty infrequent. And also,
00:26:16
I guess it's picking this information, I
00:26:19
assume, from your email or from texts or
00:26:21
like receipts.
00:26:22
>> I would imagine past orders as well,
00:26:24
right?
00:26:25
>> What's up?
00:26:25
>> I would imagine past orders as well.
00:26:27
>> Yeah, but from
00:26:27
>> That's what I'm saying. Is it pulling
00:26:29
the information from your It has to be
00:26:31
pulling it from somewhere because how
00:26:32
else would it know like it doesn't have
00:26:33
access into Door Dash or does it
00:26:36
>> I think it's Gmail. It has It has access
00:26:38
into wallet, Gmail, photos, and some
00:26:40
other Google services.
00:26:40
>> But they did say they were partnering
00:26:42
with Select Food.
00:26:43
>> It was like Door Dash and someone else.
00:26:45
>> So, some kind of back door into Door
00:26:46
Dash. I'm not sure. Maybe
00:26:47
>> before they did all the featurery stuff,
00:26:49
they did the um sort of that sort of
00:26:51
like sizzle reel, you know, that intro
00:26:52
cinematic. And uh a lot of the features
00:26:55
they were sort of talking about in that
00:26:56
seemed to be almost like open clawy like
00:27:00
when the command was like keep an eye on
00:27:02
this merch thing. That's the kind of
00:27:04
thing that in order to do accurately I
00:27:06
would assume it would need to get
00:27:07
prompted twice a day three times a day
00:27:10
in the background which is like sort of
00:27:11
what an openclaw product is for.
00:27:14
>> But they never actually said like it can
00:27:16
do heartbeat style
00:27:17
>> agentic
00:27:18
>> agentic prompts. And so I'm curious if
00:27:20
that's sort of like something they're
00:27:22
planning on adding or It should be able
00:27:24
to I've had GPT do that sort of thing
00:27:27
before.
00:27:28
>> You can say like just recurringly do
00:27:29
this and let me know.
00:27:31
>> Yeah. Yeah. And it would like twice a
00:27:33
day give me a like a notification of the
00:27:35
thing that it checked again.
00:27:36
>> Yeah. Oh, interesting.
00:27:37
>> So, it's possible, but yeah, another
00:27:40
example here was uh buying
00:27:43
>> what was it? Buying all the things like
00:27:44
tours with no Oh, it was just like look
00:27:47
at my Expedia like booking and like book
00:27:49
a tour for five people or something like
00:27:51
just pick the best one. Google.
00:27:53
>> Yeah,
00:27:54
>> you might get like the one that has open
00:27:55
seats, which isn't very good because the
00:27:57
good one is full. I I'm not really sure
00:27:59
what it's going to pick for you.
00:28:00
>> I I want to do that.
00:28:01
>> No, I I will never get I don't think the
00:28:05
technology will ever get to a point
00:28:06
where I will have it plan an entire trip
00:28:08
and me just be like, "Sounds great."
00:28:10
>> It seems like it's the example every
00:28:12
time. They're like, "I want to go for a
00:28:13
trip. Let's
00:28:15
>> plan a trip to France." And it just
00:28:16
starts doing stuff.
00:28:18
>> I I simply cannot imagine doing that.
00:28:20
But that's the future of Google's ads
00:28:22
business.
00:28:22
>> I believe it.
00:28:24
>> We're already seeing like the birth of
00:28:26
the the AI SEO sort of industry of these
00:28:29
ad agencies that are like we will boost
00:28:31
your rankings on GPT and Claude and
00:28:33
stuff like that. And I think this is the
00:28:35
future baby is like
00:28:36
>> buy this thing and then the AI goes who
00:28:38
paid me money to say buy this thing?
00:28:40
>> I I feel like I want the AI to kick in
00:28:42
like one step later in the process. I
00:28:45
want to do some of the research and I
00:28:47
want to decide which exact
00:28:53
>> to be fair is the improved autofill.
00:28:56
Yeah.
00:28:56
>> Which it's going to be able to take
00:28:57
information from what it knows about you
00:28:59
from your wallet from your photos. Let's
00:29:01
say it needs a random driver's license
00:29:03
ID number or something for some random
00:29:04
purchase. I don't know why it would do
00:29:05
that.
00:29:06
>> Your passport.
00:29:06
>> Your passport ID. That was one of the
00:29:08
examples. But like it could throw that
00:29:09
in there because the improved autofill.
00:29:11
It can take care of that for you. So
00:29:12
that's the point where the AI I think
00:29:13
would be very useful for me.
00:29:15
>> Yeah.
00:29:15
>> But I'm looking forward to that. That
00:29:17
autofill thing looked really dope
00:29:20
>> because I spend way too much time
00:29:21
filling out different addresses. Even
00:29:23
with the autofill by Chrome and all this
00:29:24
stuff, it still takes too long.
00:29:26
>> Yeah.
00:29:27
>> So if there's a way to just have AI do
00:29:29
all these generic things, go for it.
00:29:31
>> I feel like the thought of this would
00:29:33
freak my parents out. Like I don't think
00:29:36
there's some people who I feel like
00:29:37
would not want to have their personal
00:29:38
information. Um, I assume there's ways
00:29:40
to opt out of all of these or is there?
00:29:43
>> You would hope so.
00:29:44
>> I don't know, but I don't know.
00:29:46
>> I think it would be opt in. Well, at
00:29:47
least the the way it's been treated so
00:29:49
far is I had to tell it to access my
00:29:52
Gmail and all that other stuff. So, it
00:29:53
was opt in.
00:29:54
>> I had to give it access to everything.
00:29:55
Yeah. My calendar, my Gmail, all that.
00:29:58
>> But, I mean, hey, it's there already.
00:29:59
Use it.
00:30:01
>> I've taken a picture of my passport
00:30:02
before. That's the thing, though. Here's
00:30:05
the thing. I have my current driver's
00:30:06
license that I've taken a picture of. I
00:30:08
also definitely have a picture of my old
00:30:09
driver's license.
00:30:11
>> Is the driver's license number the same?
00:30:14
Maybe it is. If it if it pulls from the
00:30:16
old one, is that going to be a problem?
00:30:17
I I don't know.
00:30:18
>> Well, that was my question with they had
00:30:19
an example with Magic Q and they were
00:30:20
like, "Oh, I'm going on a hike and I was
00:30:22
going back and forth with this person
00:30:23
and they asked they texted me the
00:30:25
address." And with Magic Q, I could just
00:30:26
press the button and send them the
00:30:27
address. And that has not worked for me
00:30:29
once. Yes.
00:30:30
>> Every time because it's like I'm going
00:30:31
back and forth with the person and we're
00:30:33
discussing multiple places like, "Oh, do
00:30:35
you want to go here? What if we meet
00:30:36
there? What about this place? And every
00:30:38
time that magic Q button that pops up,
00:30:39
it gives me one of those places and not
00:30:41
the one we settled on.
00:30:42
>> That is that's why I don't trust it.
00:30:44
>> I don't trust it. It's like those little
00:30:45
things like that where it's not going to
00:30:47
understand that we I just said, "Yeah,
00:30:49
let's do that one instead of putting in
00:30:52
a whole address."
00:30:53
>> Yeah.
00:30:53
>> And it just doesn't understand.
00:30:54
>> And then when it gets it wrong, it's
00:30:56
that one little thing where it's like
00:30:57
now we don't want to trust it anymore.
00:30:58
Where the person literally is like where
00:31:00
are we meeting? Oh, magic. I just sent
00:31:02
the response. And then you get there and
00:31:03
they're like, "I'm 15 miles away cuz you
00:31:05
sent me an address on
00:31:06
>> Yeah. They went to the wrong airport
00:31:07
like
00:31:07
>> David.
00:31:08
>> Oh my god.
00:31:10
>> So TBD on testing all of that stuff. But
00:31:13
the last thing we got a little bit of a
00:31:14
sneak peek of uh is Google Book.
00:31:17
>> Yes.
00:31:18
>> Google Book is they they hyped it a lot
00:31:21
like it's a brand new concept, but to me
00:31:23
it felt a lot like Chrome OS Plus.
00:31:25
>> Okay.
00:31:26
>> Like it's it's a Chromebook with Chrome
00:31:28
OS. It has Android apps. It has a
00:31:31
premium build as they say and it'll have
00:31:33
a little light bar. It'll be made by one
00:31:35
of several OEMs HP, Dell, Lenovo, Acer,
00:31:38
Asus and it runs this more Gemini
00:31:42
centered version of Chrome OS where it
00:31:45
has essentially the magic pointer on the
00:31:47
top of it which you wiggle the the click
00:31:49
the cursor and it becomes a little
00:31:53
multimodal portal into Gemini. You can
00:31:55
click a photo, learn about it. You can
00:31:57
click several photos, combine them
00:31:58
together with Nano Banana. You can ask
00:32:00
it to rephrase some text that you
00:32:01
highlight with the cursor. It's just
00:32:02
your cursor becomes this portal into
00:32:04
Gemini.
00:32:05
>> It's a cool concept. Um, but why a new
00:32:08
product category?
00:32:09
>> Yeah. I'm confused about
00:32:11
>> this is just Chromebook. It's just
00:32:12
Chrome OS.
00:32:13
>> It's just an update.
00:32:14
>> And the Chrome OS Chromebooks, like the
00:32:16
more recent ones that were really good,
00:32:17
already could run Android apps.
00:32:19
>> Yep. In the Play Store.
00:32:21
>> Yeah. So, I'm like, why why do a whole
00:32:23
rebrand? I think there may be a
00:32:25
distinction between emulating the Play
00:32:29
Store from your phone and actually
00:32:31
running the app on the laptop.
00:32:34
>> Okay.
00:32:34
>> Um in the like, you know, you can like
00:32:37
mirror your iPhone on your on your Mac.
00:32:38
Same thing with like you can use apps
00:32:41
that are on your phone and access files
00:32:42
that are on your phone from the laptop,
00:32:45
but I think that might be a slight
00:32:46
distinction here where it's actually
00:32:48
running the app on the laptop instead of
00:32:49
running it or mirroring it from what
00:32:51
your phone is running. But then how does
00:32:52
it have the data from my phone?
00:32:54
>> Um some other extra connection between
00:32:58
your laptop.
00:32:59
>> I don't think that part is new.
00:33:00
>> Yeah.
00:33:00
>> But yeah, now it's like, oh, I'm writing
00:33:02
an email. Let me just attach a file
00:33:03
that's from my phone. You can just drag
00:33:05
it from your phone.
00:33:06
>> So this might be a stupid question, but
00:33:08
did they kill Chromebooks?
00:33:11
>> That's what I was wondering. I don't
00:33:12
>> seem like they killed it.
00:33:13
>> So this is just a new addition.
00:33:14
>> They never mentioned Chromebooks, so I
00:33:16
assumed they didn't kill Chromebooks,
00:33:17
but this is a new concept. Google Book.
00:33:20
>> Okay. I do like the idea. Like when when
00:33:23
I saw it, I was like, "Oh, that's cool."
00:33:24
Like premium hardware. It's the same
00:33:26
reason I was excited for like the old
00:33:27
Chromebook Pixel, like the nice premium
00:33:29
laptops that are tied into all my Google
00:33:30
stuff. I already have the Android phone,
00:33:32
the Pixel phone, whatever. Like, just
00:33:34
put it all in one place.
00:33:36
>> I like that idea. I'm just confused
00:33:38
about the whole new
00:33:40
>> branding around Google Books
00:33:41
specifically.
00:33:42
>> Who is this for? Who's who's buying
00:33:45
this?
00:33:46
>> That's what I want to know. That's
00:33:47
another good question because we kind of
00:33:49
know what a Chromebook is. And a
00:33:50
Chromebook historically has been a
00:33:52
cheaper like entry into the Google
00:33:55
ecosystem for students and a lot of
00:33:57
people who just need like a web browser
00:33:58
and that's basically it and they have
00:33:59
some apps on their phone.
00:34:01
>> A more premium version of that means
00:34:03
higher price tag, potentially higher
00:34:05
performance, more interesting features.
00:34:08
>> But what does it do? If you're having a
00:34:10
higher price tag, I need it to do real
00:34:12
work things.
00:34:13
>> It's an AI machine.
00:34:14
>> Yeah, it's built. It's the first laptop.
00:34:16
Wait, let me take the exact quote. It's
00:34:18
the
00:34:18
>> Is there a price point for this either?
00:34:20
I didn't see
00:34:20
>> there's no price. Uh this the first
00:34:22
laptops designed for Google Gemini
00:34:25
intelligence from the ground up.
00:34:26
>> Does that mean that it can run Final Cut
00:34:28
or Adobe Premiere or
00:34:30
>> Definitely designed for that?
00:34:31
>> I really doubt that.
00:34:32
>> Or even outside of like the creative uh
00:34:35
video editing workflow. Like can it do I
00:34:38
don't know.
00:34:38
>> No. Like this this is not it doesn't
00:34:40
feel like a competitor to the MacBook
00:34:41
Neo. like it it doesn't even feel like a
00:34:43
similar cuz that's like their budget
00:34:45
item and this feels
00:34:47
>> completely different category.
00:34:48
>> This is the
00:34:50
>> I want to use Gemini more than the
00:34:52
average person Chromebook
00:34:53
>> which is me. I would like to do that.
00:34:55
>> But you need a whole separate computer.
00:34:58
Yeah. Like I should be able like why
00:35:00
can't I just install an app on my
00:35:01
current computer that does all this?
00:35:03
>> Yeah. Why is this not a software update
00:35:05
to an existing Chromebook?
00:35:07
>> That's that's what I would like to know.
00:35:08
Like what is the benefit of me buying
00:35:11
into this hardware system? Cuz it's like
00:35:13
I'm buying a whole new laptop.
00:35:15
>> The glow bar.
00:35:18
>> Where else are you going to get the glow
00:35:18
bar?
00:35:19
>> See what it does. What is the glow bar?
00:35:20
>> It just glows.
00:35:21
>> It just glows.
00:35:21
>> It just looks nice.
00:35:22
>> All right. If it literally just glows,
00:35:24
I'm here for it.
00:35:24
>> I think it literally just a nice like
00:35:27
that's not the only thing it does. And
00:35:28
then they like didn't elaborate.
00:35:30
>> Did they say that?
00:35:30
>> I I could be misreading. It seemed very
00:35:33
ominous.
00:35:33
>> I was taking notes so I might have
00:35:35
missed some parts of that, but it seems
00:35:36
like it just glows. If it literally just
00:35:38
glows, I'm here for it. That's so just
00:35:40
why not? Why not? But I'm just like I'm
00:35:43
just confused about this this whole
00:35:44
thing.
00:35:45
>> Yeah. I'm not sure what the use case is
00:35:47
and I really want to know how much this
00:35:48
is going to cost.
00:35:49
>> I will try to get my hands on a Google
00:35:51
book. I don't know who's going to make
00:35:52
the first one. I don't know if it's
00:35:53
going to be HP or It will be HP.
00:35:55
>> As ASUS or HP,
00:35:57
>> probably HP. Yeah, we'll see if I can
00:35:58
get my hands on a Google book.
00:35:59
>> Well, what was the first one? Wasn't it
00:36:00
Acer? The C140 or something like that.
00:36:04
That one
00:36:04
>> that was unbranded.
00:36:07
Wait,
00:36:07
>> I don't think they ever said like an
00:36:08
OEM.
00:36:09
>> It was literally a logoless matte black
00:36:12
featureless laptop.
00:36:14
>> Just what you want.
00:36:15
>> Oh, no. That was Acer. That was Acer.
00:36:16
Acer. Acer CR40.
00:36:18
>> Okay. Acer made it. Was there a logo?
00:36:20
>> Are you looking at pictures of it?
00:36:21
>> Yeah, I'm looking at picture. I don't
00:36:22
see any logo. This is
00:36:24
>> like the first ever Chromebook.
00:36:26
>> Oh,
00:36:26
>> you can see how they got me into
00:36:27
Chromebooks cuz they made a featureless
00:36:29
matte black sleek Chromebook to start it
00:36:32
off. And I was like, "All right, I think
00:36:33
I could get into this." And then you
00:36:35
tried to use it and we were like,
00:36:36
"Okay."
00:36:36
>> Yeah. It has like 1 gig of RAM in it.
00:36:38
>> Yeah. So,
00:36:39
>> I love Chromebooks. I used one for all
00:36:41
throughout college. It was awesome. But
00:36:43
then I graduated and I had to do things
00:36:45
for work and I was like, "Now I can't
00:36:47
use this computer. I need a new
00:36:48
computer."
00:36:49
>> And if I'm going to spend like I don't
00:36:50
know, let's say it's what 1,500 for a
00:36:53
premium. They kept saying premium. So,
00:36:54
I'm assuming it's going to be expensive.
00:36:55
>> That's really expensive.
00:36:57
>> Too much.
00:36:58
>> I picture when they say premium, I
00:36:59
pictured a,000. a thousand like I mean
00:37:01
that is premium but I mean you get a
00:37:02
MacBook Air for that so
00:37:04
>> for this
00:37:05
>> and they didn't announce any other specs
00:37:07
and
00:37:08
>> but the MacBook Air don't jiggle baby
00:37:11
>> doesn't have a glow bar
00:37:12
>> I I mean the glow bar
00:37:14
>> premium could mean anything the the
00:37:15
typical Chromebook range is like 250 to
00:37:18
550 650 maybe
00:37:20
>> but this isn't a Chromebook Marquez this
00:37:22
is a premium hardware group
00:37:23
>> right premium hardware but that could
00:37:24
just mean more metal than plastic that
00:37:26
could mean like a better keyboard deck
00:37:28
and a brighter screen and stuff like
00:37:29
that doesn't necessarily really mean
00:37:30
like high-end specs and tons of RAM.
00:37:31
>> I think that's exactly what it means. I
00:37:33
think it just means metal.
00:37:35
>> Yeah. Yeah. $799.
00:37:38
>> $799.
00:37:39
>> I don't know.
00:37:39
>> I don't know.
00:37:40
>> It's going to be It's going to be
00:37:41
interesting to put this alongside a
00:37:42
Chromebook and see what they actually do
00:37:44
differently.
00:37:44
>> Yeah.
00:37:44
>> That's what we'll see. We'll test it on
00:37:46
video.
00:37:46
>> We need David to test this. David, come
00:37:48
home.
00:37:50
>> Speaking of David, you know what? He's
00:37:51
not here for
00:37:54
>> trivia.
00:37:56
>> Nice.
00:37:56
>> But Mariah will have to wait. So you get
00:37:58
>> What did my plan for?
00:37:59
>> You played for Andrew last time.
00:38:01
>> Yeah.
00:38:02
>> So you'll keep playing for Andrew.
00:38:04
>> You're in David. You should play for
00:38:06
David.
00:38:06
>> Sorry.
00:38:07
>> And I'll play for Andrew.
00:38:08
>> Okay.
00:38:08
>> Okay. You play for the person whose seat
00:38:10
you are in.
00:38:10
>> Yeah.
00:38:11
>> I'll play for Marquez.
00:38:12
>> That's fair.
00:38:12
>> You Adam will play for Andrew.
00:38:15
>> Block seats. You want to play for David?
00:38:16
>> No, I want to play for me. I want to
00:38:17
play for me. I need points. I need
00:38:18
points.
00:38:19
>> Okay. This is going to be a Price is
00:38:20
Right. Rules question. So close without
00:38:23
going over.
00:38:24
>> 1799. Sony is known for choosing very
00:38:28
bad names for their products because the
00:38:29
names are overly complicated and filled
00:38:31
with crazy numbers.
00:38:33
>> Do you have another way?
00:38:34
>> Google has the opposite problem where
00:38:37
their names are so simple they often
00:38:39
overlap with one another and become
00:38:41
confusing.
00:38:42
>> That's funny.
00:38:42
>> Yeah, they do do that.
00:38:43
>> How many Google products and services
00:38:47
have the word book?
00:38:49
>> No. God,
00:38:52
>> is there a limit?
00:38:54
What's the biggest number? It could be
00:38:56
>> prices right rules.
00:38:57
>> Prices right rules. And I'm just going
00:38:58
to give you guys one hint right now.
00:39:01
>> The Chromebook Pixel is only one. Even
00:39:04
though the 2013 and 2015 Chromebook
00:39:06
Pixels are different devices. I'm
00:39:08
counting those as one device because
00:39:09
they have one Wikipedia page.
00:39:11
>> Yeah.
00:39:12
>> Okay.
00:39:13
>> These are products and services.
00:39:16
>> So remember, just to kick it off, there
00:39:18
is now the Google book and Google books.
00:39:20
And these count like these current
00:39:22
releases, you're adding these.
00:39:24
>> Yeah, Google. Like I said, both Google
00:39:25
Book and Google Books is on the list.
00:39:30
>> David, you're not going to get any
00:39:31
points today. I'm sorry, brother.
00:39:32
>> David is somewhere yelling at his phone
00:39:34
cuz he actually knows the answer.
00:39:35
>> This is the one he was made for. I'm not
00:39:37
even going to write anything down yet.
00:39:38
>> The service does not have to be alive
00:39:40
still.
00:39:40
>> No, it does not.
00:39:41
>> Oh, no. Okay.
00:39:43
>> Chances are it is not alive.
00:39:44
>> That's also true. Statistically
00:39:45
speaking,
00:39:45
>> and remember there can be letters
00:39:47
immediately preceding or immediately
00:39:49
succeeding the word book. It can be
00:39:51
blank blank book or book blank
00:39:53
>> like book flight.
00:39:55
>> All right.
00:39:55
>> Okay. All right. Well, we'll think about
00:39:57
that. We'll try to be prices right
00:39:58
accurate answers at the end like usual.
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>> Welcome back. All right. So, on the
00:41:09
production calendar, we have had this
00:41:11
day there for a while because this day
00:41:14
is podcast recording with no David, no
00:41:17
Andrew. This day comes every year.
00:41:19
>> And you know us, we thought what better
00:41:22
than a game. And today, for the first
00:41:24
time, I have my compatriate
00:41:26
Rufus who came up with this amazing game
00:41:29
many weeks ago, and we have put it into
00:41:30
effect. Do you guys remember when we did
00:41:33
Family Feud and we asked the Waveform
00:41:35
audience to answer a bunch of questions?
00:41:36
>> Oh, yeah, we did.
00:41:37
>> Mhm. Yeah.
00:41:38
>> Well, we bring you today. Uh
00:41:40
>> oh.
00:41:41
>> An even better version of it called
00:41:45
We didn't time this one very well.
00:41:47
>> Reddit Family Feud. That's right. Reddit
00:41:50
Family Feud. We found nine Reddit posts
00:41:54
on Reddit.com that had answers that we
00:41:56
thought were funny, interesting, bad,
00:41:59
uninformed, informed, whatever you want
00:42:01
it to be.
00:42:02
>> That's just Reddit. You just described
00:42:03
Reddit. We gave them to
00:42:07
I don't remember which AI model. It
00:42:08
might have been Alibaba's Quen.
00:42:10
>> Quen I think I think it was Quen. We
00:42:12
gave them to Quen and we said, "Quen,
00:42:14
perform sentiment analysis
00:42:16
and let us know what the most common or
00:42:20
upvoted answers to these questions asked
00:42:22
on Reddit were. So, the way this game is
00:42:24
going to work is we're going to read you
00:42:25
the Reddit post.
00:42:27
You guys are going to have to guess what
00:42:29
is either the most commonly answered
00:42:31
thing or the most commonly upvoted
00:42:34
thing. And we'll let you know before
00:42:35
each question. This is a this is an up
00:42:37
votes one. This is a a a sentiment
00:42:39
analysis one.
00:42:40
>> And uh I'm just going to give you a
00:42:43
quick example. This first question we're
00:42:44
going to do is why do people hate Apple
00:42:47
so much?
00:42:50
The number 10 answer on the board. Uh so
00:42:53
the this is a most commonly answered
00:42:54
one. Number 10 answer is lack of
00:42:56
innovation year-over-year.
00:42:59
Um, nine people.
00:43:00
>> That was number 10.
00:43:01
>> That was the least. That That was like
00:43:02
of the top 10. The least answer.
00:43:04
>> This is like daily tens, but in real
00:43:05
life.
00:43:06
>> Yeah.
00:43:07
>> So, if I had answered that, I would get
00:43:08
how many points?
00:43:09
>> So, I'm glad you said that cuz I was
00:43:10
about to bring that up. The last time we
00:43:11
did Family Feud, we used a linear
00:43:13
straightforward uh answering system that
00:43:15
I think we stole from I can't remember
00:43:17
how they do scoring on the TV show, but
00:43:19
um you know, like if you answer the 10th
00:43:21
answer, you get one point. If you answer
00:43:22
the top answer, you get 10 points. This
00:43:24
time we said increase chaos by a lot and
00:43:28
the points are based on how common that
00:43:30
answer was. So if you had gotten that
00:43:32
answer lack of innovation
00:43:33
year-over-year, you would have gotten
00:43:35
nine points out of
00:43:36
>> if you had gotten the number one answer
00:43:38
for this question, which I will not read
00:43:40
right now,
00:43:41
>> you would have gotten 58 points.
00:43:43
>> Damn, this could get out of hand.
00:43:45
>> This will get out of hand. This will get
00:43:47
out of hand. That's kind of the point.
00:43:49
>> Um, so the way we're going to do it is
00:43:51
you hit your buzzer. It locks everyone
00:43:54
else's buzzers and then um you get the
00:43:57
chance to answer. You'll either get it
00:43:59
right or you'll get it wrong. If you get
00:44:00
it right, you get to make another guess.
00:44:02
Um and if you get it wrong,
00:44:05
>> then it's unlocked.
00:44:07
>> Then someone else can buzz in and steal
00:44:08
it.
00:44:09
>> I'm going to go nine for nine. You guys
00:44:10
are not going to be able to answer. The
00:44:11
segment will be over in about 3 minutes.
00:44:13
>> And if you guys are somehow like
00:44:14
primerain Redditors, like you just can
00:44:16
guess what Redditors are doing, then
00:44:18
we'll we'll turn on that you could get
00:44:19
three guesses and then you're not
00:44:20
allowed to guess on that question
00:44:21
anymore. I think we should be good as
00:44:23
is.
00:44:24
>> We might need to test this out and just
00:44:25
see what the
00:44:26
>> I don't know how to decide who I guess
00:44:29
>> I've done a good amount of Redditing in
00:44:30
my day.
00:44:31
>> Yeah. So, why do people hate Apple so
00:44:34
much? Someone buzz in though.
00:44:35
>> Who buzzed?
00:44:36
>> Me, Adam.
00:44:37
>> Why do people hate Apple so much?
00:44:39
>> Because it's expensive.
00:44:40
>> It's expensive.
00:44:41
>> Ding ding ding.
00:44:42
>> That's Yeah. Number one answer.
00:44:43
>> Number one answer.
00:44:43
>> 58 points to Adam. You get to guess
00:44:45
again.
00:44:46
>> Catch up.
00:44:46
>> That's crazy.
00:44:47
>> Eat my bubbles.
00:44:48
>> All right. All right. Hm.
00:44:50
>> Oh, we're just
00:44:51
>> No, no, you had the you got it right.
00:44:52
You don't have to buzz again.
00:44:54
>> Oh, okay. So, I can just keep going.
00:44:55
Okay. Okay. Um, so then the next most
00:44:58
common answer by Redditors is because
00:45:02
it's ass
00:45:05
>> because it's bad.
00:45:07
>> Because I don't think anything
00:45:09
>> Oh, sorry. Was that preemptive?
00:45:11
>> It was, but Mariah will let you answer.
00:45:13
>> Um, can I say they break easily?
00:45:15
>> Lack of repairability.
00:45:16
>> That's funny. So, that's people No.
00:45:18
Yeah.
00:45:20
one.
00:45:20
>> But Marquez, you disbudded in and you
00:45:22
did say not repable, which is the third
00:45:25
most high said thing on this question.
00:45:27
>> There you go.
00:45:28
>> 36 points.
00:45:29
>> Wait, so did I not get any points?
00:45:30
>> No.
00:45:31
>> What the
00:45:32
>> Wait, you just said yes to all of that
00:45:34
and then
00:45:34
>> No, it was
00:45:39
>> I have a feeling the whole game is going
00:45:40
to go like that.
00:45:42
>> Are we still going?
00:45:43
>> Yeah. Are we still going?
00:45:46
>> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I
00:45:47
think Marquez got that right.
00:45:48
>> Technically, I keep going. The board is
00:45:51
yours.
00:45:51
>> Uh, user hostility.
00:45:54
>> Explain what you mean by that.
00:45:55
>> Uh, ecosystem wall.
00:45:56
>> Yep. Now, walled garden ecosystem.
00:46:00
>> Number five.
00:46:01
>> 29 points.
00:46:02
>> Interesting. Um, what about like uh not
00:46:05
available in my or yeah, not available
00:46:08
in my region.
00:46:10
>> Unfortunately, I do not see that.
00:46:12
>> They're trying to get themselves into
00:46:14
every region.
00:46:17
Ugly
00:46:19
>> the design
00:46:21
ugly.
00:46:22
>> I feel like Reddit would say that. I
00:46:24
feel like they would.
00:46:24
>> No. People People think they look great.
00:46:26
>> Sims.
00:46:28
>> Lack of customization.
00:46:29
>> That's a good one.
00:46:32
>> Give me that. Give me that.
00:46:33
>> No.
00:46:34
>> No. Come on, Redditors.
00:46:36
>> Marquez.
00:46:38
>> Uh, lacking in like updated specs. They
00:46:42
never have the biggest batteries or the
00:46:43
highest numbers or any of that. No,
00:46:46
>> no silicon carbon, you know.
00:46:47
>> Okay. Wait. Uh, let's see. Let's see.
00:46:56
>> No games, bro.
00:46:56
>> No games. Reddit.
00:46:58
>> Oh,
00:46:59
>> no way.
00:46:59
>> Yeah. Gaming limitations.
00:47:02
>> Number four, for 32 points. Gamers spend
00:47:04
$1,200 on GPU alone. Counter argument.
00:47:10
>> Sure.
00:47:11
>> Thanks.
00:47:13
can't afford this.
00:47:14
>> Gamers cannot afford that.
00:47:17
>> A lot of these are you're you're
00:47:19
answering these questions as if the
00:47:20
Redditors would give the actual answers,
00:47:23
>> but a lot of these are just
00:47:26
>> Reddit responses.
00:47:27
>> Okay.
00:47:28
>> Well, it's things like a lot of these
00:47:30
are I don't care. I'm going to talk
00:47:32
about something else.
00:47:33
>> I could have said that.
00:47:36
>> Okay. So, I'm going to I got that right.
00:47:37
>> Some of them are a little bit of a left.
00:47:39
So, think about if you said, "Why do
00:47:40
Apple products suck so much?" Why? You
00:47:42
know, what is the the the second highest
00:47:45
answer on the board? Would be
00:47:46
>> your mom.
00:47:47
>> Cuz they always have.
00:47:49
>> Not quite.
00:47:50
>> Ryan, I see you itching to buzz in.
00:47:51
>> I don't know. They don't.
00:47:53
>> They don't like Tim Cook.
00:47:55
>> No.
00:47:55
>> Okay.
00:47:56
>> Would it be they don't suck?
00:47:58
>> No.
00:48:00
>> Wait, you didn't buzz in.
00:48:02
>> I just buzzed.
00:48:02
>> Which one you want to give him?
00:48:04
>> Oh, I thought this was an example. I
00:48:05
just give it to Give it to six.
00:48:07
>> There's There's the answer. The number
00:48:08
two answer on the board is sort of a
00:48:11
slight variation on that, but it's
00:48:12
slight enough that I think it deserves
00:48:14
its own thing. But next time, let's make
00:48:15
sure we're using the buzzers, folks.
00:48:17
>> Okay, got it. Got it. Got it.
00:48:18
>> I need to think like a Redditor.
00:48:20
>> Wait, so what was your most recent
00:48:22
answer? What did you just say? That it
00:48:23
doesn't suck.
00:48:24
>> It doesn't suck.
00:48:25
>> And the answer on the board was build
00:48:27
quality and reliability is actually
00:48:29
excellent.
00:48:30
>> And so we have both sides. We have Wait,
00:48:33
did we already say like
00:48:34
>> Mariah? So, we have it doesn't suck. But
00:48:37
do we already we already have it sucks,
00:48:38
right?
00:48:40
>> But why it's Why does it suck?
00:48:41
>> It doesn't matter. They just They don't
00:48:44
like it.
00:48:45
>> Not on the board.
00:48:46
>> No.
00:48:49
>> Siri is goated.
00:48:51
>> Not on the board.
00:48:51
>> No way.
00:48:52
>> I don't think anybody thinks that.
00:48:54
>> I think they would say something about
00:48:56
the pretentious attitude of presenting
00:48:58
everything as revolutionary when it's
00:49:00
not.
00:49:01
>> That uh I would say that is seven. Damn.
00:49:04
>> Tribalism/platform wars. That feels damn
00:49:07
>> That feels on on on point.
00:49:09
>> Can you say like explicitly better than
00:49:11
Android?
00:49:12
>> Nothing.
00:49:13
>> That might have I might have given you
00:49:15
tribalism for that, but
00:49:16
>> Okay.
00:49:17
>> What was this Reddit post again?
00:49:18
>> What was the question?
00:49:19
>> It was why do people hate Apple so much?
00:49:21
Right.
00:49:22
>> I thought that was an example question.
00:49:24
>> Yeah, that doesn't count. Have points.
00:49:27
>> Were we getting points for that?
00:49:28
>> Yeah, we were getting points.
00:49:29
>> And it's a closer game than you would
00:49:30
think.
00:49:31
>> Really?
00:49:31
>> Whoops. Okay, let's do Oh boy,
00:49:34
>> guys. After that first question,
00:49:39
>> you said this is a close game. Adam, you
00:49:41
are in second place with 90 points.
00:49:44
>> Marquez, you are in first place with 110
00:49:47
points and Mariah holding up the caboose
00:49:50
>> with zero points.
00:49:52
>> Um,
00:49:53
>> it's okay, Mariah. The questions you
00:49:54
guys left on the board were uh number
00:49:56
nine, people think hating popular things
00:49:59
makes them smart. That's number eight
00:50:01
was an HP elite book comparison.
00:50:06
>> And number two, the variation on they
00:50:08
don't suck is people who hate it haven't
00:50:10
actually used.
00:50:12
>> That's a good one.
00:50:13
>> By the way, 14 people commented about
00:50:14
the HP Elite book.
00:50:16
>> Wow.
00:50:16
>> What forum was this on?
00:50:18
>> Reddit.com r/Mac.
00:50:20
>> Oh, okay.
00:50:21
>> Oh, yeah. We should read the subre
00:50:24
or something.
00:50:24
>> Guys, this next question.
00:50:26
>> Okay.
00:50:26
>> Okay.
00:50:27
>> Yeah.
00:50:27
>> No, wait.
00:50:28
>> I'm ready guys. Guys, let's just give it
00:50:30
up for Rufus. This is This is one of my
00:50:32
favorite we've ever done.
00:50:33
>> Um, kicking off this next question. Very
00:50:36
similar. This is on r/mputers.
00:50:38
>> Caputo.
00:50:39
>> Computa.
00:50:40
>> Why does everyone hate Windows 11?
00:50:44
>> The ads, bro.
00:50:46
>> Number 10 answer. Ads in the OS.
00:50:48
>> That's number 10. Yep.
00:50:50
>> There's worse.
00:50:51
>> Hate Windows 11.
00:50:52
>> The bugs.
00:50:54
>> The bugs is just going to run down the
00:50:56
list.
00:50:56
>> Yeah, that is number eight.
00:50:57
>> Oh, damn. Okay. Really not that bad.
00:50:59
>> It's worse than Windows 10.
00:51:01
>> Mhm.
00:51:01
>> Okay. Um the aesthetics.
00:51:06
>> It's not very clean or polished or good
00:51:09
looking.
00:51:09
>> No, I'm going to I'm not going to give
00:51:10
this.
00:51:11
>> Okay. All right. Privacy.
00:51:14
>> Yep.
00:51:14
>> Privacy is Yeah. What number is that?
00:51:16
Four. Five. The number five answer worth
00:51:19
27 points. Damn right. Adam, you control
00:51:21
the board. Um Okay. Next up after
00:51:23
privacy, the obvious answer is build
00:51:27
quality.
00:51:28
Uh, this is Windows 11, which is an
00:51:30
operating system.
00:51:31
>> Yeah, it comes on laptops, does it not?
00:51:32
>> It comes on everything.
00:51:34
>> AI. We hate AI.
00:51:36
>> AI is the number two answer.
00:51:38
>> With 38 points, she is officially here,
00:51:40
folks.
00:51:41
>> Nice.
00:51:41
>> Mariah, you have control.
00:51:43
>> Oh, no.
00:51:45
>> Uh, we hate McAfee.
00:51:48
>> Good answer.
00:51:50
>> Number one. No,
00:51:51
>> no one said that.
00:51:53
>> Got him.
00:51:54
>> Uh, I'm Wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, no.
00:51:56
No, no. Bloatware and AI features were
00:51:58
bundled into one. Unfortunately, yes,
00:52:00
Adam, I'm sorry. You
00:52:01
>> Adam.
00:52:02
>> Yeah. No, it's fine. Yeah, whatever. No,
00:52:03
Mariah gets the ghost, though. She has
00:52:04
control.
00:52:05
>> No, I went wrong. I was wrong cuz I
00:52:07
said,
00:52:08
>> "Oh, we're bundling it." Okay.
00:52:10
>> Um Oh, man. I never thought I'd make it
00:52:12
this far. Um
00:52:15
>> we hate Windows 11 because of the We
00:52:17
already Did we talk about the tiles? We
00:52:19
said You said design or UI, right?
00:52:22
>> I did.
00:52:23
>> Tiles we see in tiles on here.
00:52:25
>> I feel like this is
00:52:27
Okay, we got we got to explain this.
00:52:28
Marquez, you said the design and we said
00:52:30
no. However, UI changes are on here, but
00:52:34
I do believe tiles was brought into the
00:52:36
Windows Windows 8.
00:52:38
>> Yeah, that's old. That's old.
00:52:39
>> So, but honestly, just to make it a more
00:52:41
competitive game, uh, let's give Mariah
00:52:43
the points.
00:52:43
>> We're so back.
00:52:47
>> David, I'm going to make you proud
00:52:48
myself.
00:52:51
>> Okay, Mariah.
00:52:52
>> You have the control of the board once
00:52:53
again.
00:52:53
>> Oh, man. Other things that we hate. Um,
00:52:56
>> the number one answer is still on the
00:52:57
board, folks.
00:52:58
>> That's right.
00:52:58
>> I got this. I got this.
00:53:00
>> I know what it is.
00:53:01
>> On.
00:53:02
>> I feel like we've said all the main
00:53:04
things that we don't like.
00:53:05
>> We did not.
00:53:07
>> What else is there?
00:53:08
>> Right. I'm going to start as 5 seconds.
00:53:10
>> So many things.
00:53:11
>> There's so many.
00:53:12
>> We don't like the game hub. It's
00:53:14
terrible.
00:53:15
>> I don't see game.
00:53:16
>> I know. No one cares.
00:53:19
>> We actually do like Windows.
00:53:22
>> Good guess.
00:53:23
>> That was Dang it. That was my guess.
00:53:25
>> Unanimously hate it. There are no left
00:53:28
turns in this one. Unbelievable hates
00:53:30
it.
00:53:30
>> Can you read the the threat again? The
00:53:32
title of it.
00:53:33
>> Fred again
00:53:33
>> or the
00:53:34
>> Why does everyone hate Windows 11?
00:53:36
>> Okay.
00:53:38
>> Copilot
00:53:40
>> bundled into AI features.
00:53:44
>> Because they all use Macs and they're
00:53:45
too dumb to learn Windows.
00:53:48
>> I'm trying to think like a Redditor
00:53:49
right now.
00:53:49
>> Wait. Okay, great point. Think like a
00:53:52
Redditor because Linux is better.
00:53:53
>> Mhm. Oh yeah.
00:53:55
>> Oh, it should be there, but it's not.
00:53:56
>> Ah,
00:53:57
>> we miss Windows 10.
00:53:59
>> These are all Damn, we're better editors
00:54:02
than Redditors.
00:54:02
>> Yeah, it's crazy.
00:54:03
>> We're thinking too small.
00:54:05
>> Okay, wait.
00:54:06
>> What's that weird thing that like
00:54:07
screenshots your whole history? We don't
00:54:09
like that.
00:54:10
>> Okay, never mind.
00:54:11
>> No, that's um
00:54:12
>> Is that No, it's called recall.
00:54:14
>> Recall.
00:54:15
>> It's also written down in that same
00:54:16
answer.
00:54:17
>> Okay. Okay.
00:54:18
>> We've hit the number two answer like
00:54:19
five times.
00:54:21
>> We haven't hit number one.
00:54:22
>> Nope. Oh, she'll never
00:54:23
>> damn.
00:54:24
>> You're missing a few textbook classic
00:54:26
Microsoft complaints.
00:54:29
>> Oh, we said AI already. Uh because they
00:54:34
didn't add I don't know.
00:54:37
>> Mariah,
00:54:38
>> we don't like Microsoft. No.
00:54:41
>> System requirements.
00:54:42
>> There are two answers on the board that
00:54:44
involve Microsoft, but not It's a little
00:54:46
too general.
00:54:47
>> We don't trust Microsoft.
00:54:49
>> No, it's still too general. What does
00:54:51
Windows do that you hate?
00:54:55
>> That I hate?
00:54:56
>> Yeah.
00:54:56
>> What does Windows do that you wish it
00:54:58
didn't?
00:54:58
>> Oh, because it doesn't Oh, that's
00:55:00
different. I was going to say it doesn't
00:55:02
have all the Apple apps in Final Cut,
00:55:04
stuff like that.
00:55:06
>> Too many pop-ups.
00:55:08
>> What does it do that I wish it didn't?
00:55:11
>> What does Windows do that you wish it
00:55:13
did not do?
00:55:14
>> It's incompatible with
00:55:15
>> Oh. Oh.
00:55:17
>> random forced updates.
00:55:18
>> Yes.
00:55:21
Man,
00:55:21
>> is that number one?
00:55:22
>> Number nine.
00:55:23
>> Oh, what?
00:55:24
>> What is number one?
00:55:26
>> Number one.
00:55:26
>> Is that like three points?
00:55:27
>> Something insane.
00:55:28
>> What is number one? It has to do with
00:55:31
>> related to Microsoft.
00:55:32
>> Yeah. Wait. Okay, maybe we should
00:55:33
brainstorm.
00:55:34
>> Marquez, you said you said bugs, right,
00:55:36
earlier? I think that might be the
00:55:37
number four answer. I think that cuz
00:55:39
it's talking about I think
00:55:40
>> I
00:55:42
we could but he we already gave him an
00:55:43
answer for it. So, we give him double
00:55:45
the points.
00:55:46
>> That's true.
00:55:46
>> What about Microsoft? So either somebody
00:55:48
hits the specific stays on there.
00:55:50
>> What do we not like about Windows 11?
00:55:52
>> Oh yeah, Windows 11 specific. Andrew is
00:55:53
like screaming at home right now.
00:55:55
>> Yeah, this is
00:55:56
>> Oh. Oh,
00:55:58
>> drivers.
00:55:59
>> Oh.
00:56:00
>> Uh
00:56:00
>> I think
00:56:01
>> driver updates drivers have gotten
00:56:03
pretty good system requirements perhaps.
00:56:06
What? What about explain
00:56:08
>> the minimum system requirements are
00:56:10
always so high.
00:56:11
>> Mhm.
00:56:11
>> Yep.
00:56:12
>> Yeah, we'll give it to you answer
00:56:14
>> that. Number one. No, the number three
00:56:16
answer was hardware requirements forcing
00:56:18
e-waste from older compatible
00:56:20
unsupported PCs.
00:56:21
>> Whoa. Shout out to Reddit for caring
00:56:23
about e-waste.
00:56:24
>> Redditors love the environment.
00:56:25
>> That's awesome.
00:56:26
>> We still don't have number one.
00:56:28
>> That's insane.
00:56:29
>> That's crazy.
00:56:30
>> They're all banging on their keyboards
00:56:31
right now.
00:56:32
>> Yeah.
00:56:33
>> It's gotten too expensive.
00:56:35
>> I think that Damn it.
00:56:36
>> Yeah. What do you need to run Windows?
00:56:41
>> Marquez.
00:56:46
You need a You need a GPU.
00:56:50
>> Can't get one of those.
00:56:51
>> Yeah.
00:56:51
>> RAM.
00:56:52
>> No.
00:56:53
>> Damn.
00:56:54
>> What's funny is that this is something
00:56:55
that you also need to use a Mac.
00:56:57
>> Huh?
00:56:58
>> No.
00:56:58
>> No.
00:56:59
>> I'm confused.
00:56:59
>> Are you sure about that?
00:57:00
>> You do not need the equivalent thing
00:57:01
from Apple to do this.
00:57:02
>> Never mind.
00:57:03
>> The equivalent.
00:57:04
>> Guys, I think it's time to wrap this one
00:57:06
up.
00:57:06
>> I don't know, man.
00:57:07
>> Wait, we don't know. Tower. PC tower.
00:57:10
>> Number one answer. forced Microsoft
00:57:13
account requirement.
00:57:15
>> Also still on the board, number four,
00:57:17
broken updates and system crashes after
00:57:19
patching. And the number seven answer,
00:57:21
we hate One Drive. Get rid of One Drive.
00:57:24
>> Nobody likes
00:57:26
>> What's so funny is the number one answer
00:57:28
is the reason my dad won't use it. He
00:57:30
complains to me all the time.
00:57:31
>> You should have listened to the not get
00:57:33
that.
00:57:33
>> That is the number one thing I was
00:57:35
annoyed by when setting up a competing
00:57:37
Windows PC.
00:57:38
>> It's so fleeting. It's just for such a
00:57:39
short period of time. It's like an hour.
00:57:41
>> It's like the first hour you own the
00:57:43
thing.
00:57:43
>> So, we're going to move on to our next
00:57:45
point, our next question. And to round
00:57:47
out the points, we have Marquez
00:57:49
>> in first place with 187.
00:57:52
>> Adam in second place with 117 and Mariah
00:57:54
rounding out the back with 61 points.
00:57:57
>> All right, we're not that far behind. If
00:57:59
we combine our our forces, we can beat
00:58:00
him.
00:58:00
>> We can beat him real quick.
00:58:02
>> I just want to make sure something I
00:58:04
just want to make sure everything's
00:58:04
right. Adam, can you look at your camera
00:58:05
real quick?
00:58:08
>> Jesus Christ. Did you do it?
00:58:11
>> Got it.
00:58:12
>> Bring Andrew home. Bring Andrew back.
00:58:17
>> Oh god.
00:58:17
>> What's the next question?
00:58:19
>> This one is the one that David will be
00:58:20
sad he missed because it is from our
00:58:22
solo traveler.
00:58:24
>> I thought it was from r/analog.
00:58:25
>> Solo traveler.
00:58:28
>> Why are you laughing?
00:58:29
>> As he's solo traveling on a solo travel
00:58:31
right now.
00:58:32
>> That's funny.
00:58:33
>> This r/s solo traveler.
00:58:36
>> Uh solo travel, excuse me. And the
00:58:38
question is, do peak design backpack?
00:58:40
>> All right. Well,
00:58:42
>> no.
00:58:42
>> No.
00:58:43
>> No. Does anyone else want to try and
00:58:45
rule this one?
00:58:46
>> Uh,
00:58:47
>> there's no penalty. There's no negative.
00:58:50
>> Lonely.
00:58:55
>> Nope.
00:58:56
>> That's all there. Okay.
00:58:57
>> Too expensive.
00:58:58
>> No.
00:59:00
>> The question is, do you bring your
00:59:03
laptop on trips?
00:59:04
>> Oh, no.
00:59:06
You got to give me more though. No, it's
00:59:08
too heavy.
00:59:09
>> Mariah,
00:59:09
>> wait. Wait. That is the number one
00:59:11
answer on the board.
00:59:12
>> No. Travel light with just phone/t.
00:59:15
>> That's what I do.
00:59:16
>> Nice, Adam.
00:59:17
>> That's the only answer.
00:59:17
>> Thank you. Yeah. Uh, I have nine more.
00:59:19
So,
00:59:20
>> number Wait, I still
00:59:21
>> Oh, sorry.
00:59:24
>> Yes, I need to work.
00:59:26
>> That's the number two answer of the
00:59:27
board. Only
00:59:28
>> only for work trips.
00:59:30
>> Yep.
00:59:31
>> Can't stop working.
00:59:32
>> Let's go right down the list. Number
00:59:33
three sometimes depends on the trip.
00:59:38
>> Yep.
00:59:40
>> Which one is it?
00:59:41
>> What? You got to give me more info about
00:59:42
the trip. What's the differentiator?
00:59:44
>> Am I visiting family or not?
00:59:46
>> Nope.
00:59:47
>> Damn.
00:59:48
>> Marquez.
00:59:49
>> Yep.
00:59:50
>> Sometimes depending on if I need to
00:59:52
write a lot on this trip. Type a lot.
00:59:56
>> Keyboard.
00:59:57
>> No keyboard.
00:59:58
>> That that that would be the answer.
01:00:00
>> God, can I get a keyboard? Uh, no.
01:00:03
That's kind of the only That's only
01:00:05
number two answer. Only for work trips
01:00:06
here.
01:00:06
>> Oh. Oh,
01:00:07
>> if I have a meeting.
01:00:08
>> Uh, no. It's still work stuff. Damn.
01:00:11
>> It's the biggest screen I can bring with
01:00:13
me. So, I'll watch a movie on it.
01:00:15
>> That's pretty good.
01:00:17
>> No. Watch a movie.
01:00:19
>> Make a movie.
01:00:22
>> I mean, you could edit a movie on it,
01:00:24
but
01:00:24
>> Okay, that is
01:00:25
>> what
01:00:26
>> the number
01:00:28
Yep. The number six answer for
01:00:30
photography/editing
01:00:31
needs.
01:00:33
>> That's way better than I thought.
01:00:34
>> Oh, wait. You You still get to go.
01:00:35
>> Oh, for solo travel. Okay. What else
01:00:36
would they say? They would say, um,
01:00:38
>> I forgot we're doing solo traveling.
01:00:40
>> They would say, "No, they don't even own
01:00:42
a laptop."
01:00:43
>> That's a good
01:00:44
>> nerds.
01:00:46
>> No.
01:00:47
>> Sorry.
01:00:48
>> They're like, "No, I don't want it to
01:00:50
break on my trip."
01:00:51
>> Oh, that's a good answer.
01:00:53
>> I don't have Apple.
01:00:54
>> You don't want anything to happen to
01:00:55
There are there are other reasons that
01:00:58
people said they would not bring one,
01:00:59
but breaking is actually not one of the
01:01:00
ones listed.
01:01:01
>> That's like my number one reason I don't
01:01:02
want to bring your place.
01:01:04
>> No, I don't want it to get stolen.
01:01:05
>> No, I don't want to get stolen is the
01:01:06
number five answer. Thank you, Mariah.
01:01:09
>> Uh, yes. How else do I game?
01:01:14
>> Surprising time. What?
01:01:15
>> Nerds aren't gaming.
01:01:17
>> R/ solo travel. What would these people
01:01:20
>> solo travel?
01:01:22
>> Digital nomad.
01:01:23
>> Yeah, for work.
01:01:24
>> Nope. I heard that.
01:01:28
>> You know what, Brian? Just to keep it
01:01:29
competitive, we're going to give you the
01:01:30
number eight answer on the board. Long
01:01:31
trips only,
01:01:33
>> months, not
01:01:35
>> digital nomad. She said,
01:01:36
>> she said digital nomad. I want the
01:01:38
points.
01:01:38
>> Different type of nomad.
01:01:40
>> You already have the points. We
01:01:41
literally cannot subtract them from your
01:01:42
score.
01:01:44
>> Also, yes, that is what you said. A
01:01:46
nomad implies you're traveling for
01:01:49
>> digital nomad.
01:01:50
>> Digital nomad.
01:01:52
No, that's that is a it's like Tron. The
01:01:54
comments will agree with me.
01:01:56
>> Okay.
01:01:58
>> Um what else? Uh won't bring it because
01:02:01
>> how many answers do we have left?
01:02:02
>> Yeah.
01:02:03
>> What's left on the board?
01:02:04
>> Five. The bottom five or super quick
01:02:06
tangent just before I forget. We were
01:02:09
everyone was talking about the Google
01:02:10
event after it it ended and someone was
01:02:11
like, "Yeah, I keep trying to do the
01:02:12
this Gemini thing with voice and it
01:02:14
doesn't work." And someone was like,
01:02:15
"Well, do you think it do you think it
01:02:16
trained with the voice?" And I was like,
01:02:18
"Benades talking to Lissan Algib."
01:02:21
Oh,
01:02:23
>> trained the voice.
01:02:25
>> All right. I don't remember who
01:02:28
>> is up. So, buzz in somebody.
01:02:29
>> Well, you gave Mariah the digital nomad.
01:02:31
>> Then Mariah has the board and no one
01:02:33
should buzz.
01:02:34
>> I don't know, man. Why aren't we
01:02:36
bringing laptops?
01:02:37
>> This is This is We aren't bringing
01:02:38
laptops.
01:02:39
>> Well, is do you bring your laptop? What
01:02:40
do you think the Reddit community
01:02:42
responded to the prompt?
01:02:43
>> They said, "Yes, I have to day trade."
01:02:45
No, it's still business.
01:02:48
stock exchange
01:02:49
>> Marquez.
01:02:51
>> Um, my laptop doesn't do anything that I
01:02:54
want to do on this trip.
01:02:57
>> Uh, yes. Uh, I will I will quantify that
01:03:00
as regretted bringing it slash barely
01:03:02
used it.
01:03:02
>> Okay. Yeah. Okay.
01:03:04
>> And then
01:03:05
>> Marquez.
01:03:06
>> Um, it's just another thing I have to
01:03:08
charge. I don't want to charge it.
01:03:12
>> Mariah,
01:03:13
>> did we already say like doesn't fit in
01:03:15
bag?
01:03:16
>> Travel light. I think I think
01:03:19
>> Oh, okay.
01:03:19
>> Yeah, I think that's the number four
01:03:21
answer. Bring an iPad/t instead.
01:03:24
>> Okay, nice. Sure.
01:03:26
>> Sure.
01:03:26
>> That's different.
01:03:27
>> Excuse you.
01:03:29
>> Oh, I thought I thought we said that
01:03:30
already.
01:03:30
>> Excuse you.
01:03:31
>> Wow.
01:03:32
>> Okay, so now we have three answers left.
01:03:34
>> Three answers left. The number three,
01:03:35
nine, and 10 answers. Not a lot of
01:03:36
points left.
01:03:37
>> Laptop.
01:03:38
>> What are the Redditors thinking?
01:03:39
>> It's cuz I brought my tower PC instead.
01:03:42
>> Solo travel. Number three response on
01:03:45
Reddit would be
01:03:48
>> where are you going?
01:03:50
>> Oh, like people are asking.
01:03:52
>> Yeah, you're now now you're thinking
01:03:54
with portals.
01:03:54
>> Okay. Okay.
01:03:55
>> Not on the board.
01:03:56
>> Okay.
01:03:57
>> Um
01:03:58
>> I think we
01:03:59
>> are they like why do you need it?
01:04:02
>> Use case scenario.
01:04:03
>> No, I think I think we can sweep this
01:04:05
one up. I think we have enough. We have
01:04:06
three left on the board.
01:04:07
>> This one up.
01:04:09
>> Seems sweeping on your mind, Ellis.
01:04:11
Interesting.
01:04:14
I'm sorry, Ellis. I love you.
01:04:15
>> You okay?
01:04:17
>> You guys made him sad. So, number three,
01:04:20
yes, but only a cheap or a cheap laptop
01:04:23
or a Chromebook. Number nine, my phone
01:04:25
got stolen. I'm glad I had a laptop as a
01:04:27
backup. Number 10, read a book.
01:04:30
>> Okay,
01:04:31
>> just read a book.
01:04:31
>> Whatever. Touch grass.
01:04:32
>> No, that's not the same.
01:04:33
>> Rounding out the points, we have Adam
01:04:36
now in the lead with 241 points, Marquez
01:04:39
with 214, and Mariah with 92. Let's go.
01:04:42
>> I want to before we do
01:04:43
>> Okay, guys. We could end this here.
01:04:45
>> Thank you. There's I think we should do
01:04:47
this one next.
01:04:48
>> Yeah, I want this one.
01:04:48
>> Okay, good. So, r/con is the subreddit
01:04:52
for the Mandela effect, but it's
01:04:54
different than the Mandela effect
01:04:55
subreddit because in the rules it says
01:04:57
you have to approach this subreddit with
01:05:00
the assumption that the Mandela effect
01:05:02
is real and the past actually is
01:05:04
changing.
01:05:04
>> Okay.
01:05:05
>> So, it's pretty
01:05:06
>> So, this like conspiracy theory. It's
01:05:07
like it's conspiracy theory but not like
01:05:10
oh what if these conspiracy theories are
01:05:12
real. It's like this is happening to me.
01:05:14
>> Got it.
01:05:15
>> I have submission for the Mandela
01:05:17
effect. Fisher Price car.
01:05:20
>> Never been a Fisher Price car. It's
01:05:22
Little Takes.
01:05:23
>> What? I had one as a kid.
01:05:24
>> Everyone thinks it's a Fisher Price car.
01:05:26
>> Wait, the one you reviewed on Fisher
01:05:27
Price?
01:05:28
>> We have one in the studio. You can go
01:05:29
look.
01:05:30
>> Yeah, but who makes it?
01:05:31
>> Little Tikes. Little
01:05:32
>> What?
01:05:32
>> Is Little Tikes not a subbrand?
01:05:34
>> Nope.
01:05:34
>> No. I can see myself getting that wrong.
01:05:36
Um, guys, the the someone asked r/con,
01:05:42
can your phone read your mind?
01:05:44
>> Oh, yeah.
01:05:46
>> What did the conspiracy theorists of
01:05:48
Reddit respond?
01:05:49
>> God,
01:05:50
>> they responded, "They have to be
01:05:51
listening to you all the time."
01:05:55
>> Yes, that's number four answer. Phone
01:05:56
listening through microphone/ AI pattern
01:05:59
recognition. Marquez, you have the
01:06:01
board.
01:06:01
>> Um,
01:06:02
>> which is a Jeopardy thing. I know I'm
01:06:03
mixing up my games, but everyone shut
01:06:04
up.
01:06:04
>> Yeah, that's fine. King your phone
01:06:06
ringing your mind. Um, it seems like
01:06:08
it's reading your mind based on how much
01:06:09
it knows about you, but it just knows so
01:06:12
much about you.
01:06:13
>> Uh, real two.
01:06:16
>> No, I think I think that might be the
01:06:17
number two answer.
01:06:19
>> Oh,
01:06:19
>> yeah. Coincidence algorithms are just
01:06:21
really good at prediction. That's the
01:06:22
number two answer.
01:06:23
>> Jesus Christ, Mark.
01:06:25
>> Um, why does it think it's running?
01:06:28
Never mind. Um, ad tracking. Maybe
01:06:30
that's just the number. M. Nah. I mean,
01:06:35
there's no track.
01:06:37
>> It knows where I am. How does it know?
01:06:43
>> Is that the Can we call that the number
01:06:45
one answer?
01:06:47
>> I don't know.
01:06:47
>> No,
01:06:48
>> no, no. What would What would So,
01:06:53
>> honestly, Mariah, it I'm giving you the
01:06:55
number nine answer. The number nine
01:06:57
answer is spiritual/ psychic abilities
01:06:59
explanation.
01:07:01
Yeah, this this ising basically from
01:07:03
here on out the number one answer is
01:07:05
kind of reasonable, but everything else
01:07:07
is crazy.
01:07:07
>> Okay. Okay.
01:07:08
>> What would what would Redditors what
01:07:10
would a Redditor type into their
01:07:11
keyboard?
01:07:12
>> What was remind me the prompt again?
01:07:13
Sorry.
01:07:13
>> Can your phone read your mind on r/con?
01:07:17
>> Adam.
01:07:18
>> Mhm.
01:07:18
>> Neuralink.
01:07:22
>> Yeah. No number. The number six answer.
01:07:25
>> The number six answer. Brainwave EMF
01:07:28
thinking with phone technology. I was
01:07:30
literally going to say that next. Okay,
01:07:32
>> Adam, it is you have it.
01:07:33
>> Conspiracy theories.
01:07:35
>> Conspiracy theories. All right, I'm
01:07:36
going to go with
01:07:37
>> Bluetooth.
01:07:39
>> Oh,
01:07:39
>> I do not see Bluetooth on here.
01:07:41
>> Marquez.
01:07:42
>> Eye tracking.
01:07:43
>> Eye tracking is not on here.
01:07:47
>> I'm surprised.
01:07:48
>> So, not like facial recognition. How
01:07:50
does it know to unlock my phone?
01:07:52
>> Facial recognition is thanks to not on
01:07:56
here.
01:07:56
>> How does it know what I look like?
01:07:57
Where's the one about the
01:07:59
>> How does your phone
01:08:01
>> know what you're saying?
01:08:01
>> Does your phone read your mind?
01:08:04
>> I'm a Redditor. Does your phone read
01:08:05
your mind? Um, actually,
01:08:08
>> no, it doesn't read your mind.
01:08:10
>> Uh, that was Oh, skeptical dismissive
01:08:13
responses.
01:08:14
>> Okay.
01:08:14
>> Wow.
01:08:15
>> Way to go, Marquez.
01:08:16
>> Okay.
01:08:17
>> Um,
01:08:20
it does read your mind.
01:08:26
>> This has got to be one of those want to
01:08:27
say more? What? What else would it like?
01:08:29
Yes. And
01:08:31
>> yeah, it's um it's reading your
01:08:33
thoughts.
01:08:35
>> I don't want to give him those points.
01:08:36
Just But only cuz he's I'm going to be a
01:08:38
little strict cuz cuz you're ahead. You
01:08:39
know what I mean?
01:08:40
>> Okay.
01:08:40
>> It's reading your emotions.
01:08:42
>> Uh
01:08:44
no, I haven't seen that movie though, so
01:08:47
I don't know.
01:08:47
>> I uh I think I
01:08:50
>> Mariah.
01:08:51
>> Uh did we already talk about targeted
01:08:52
ads? I think we might have. Okay.
01:08:54
>> Okay. Hold on. We only have a few more.
01:08:56
We can we can wrap this one up if you're
01:08:58
if you're curious with the with the Yes,
01:09:00
Mariah.
01:09:00
>> That's your answer.
01:09:02
>> We don't have number one yet, right?
01:09:03
>> We don't have number one.
01:09:04
>> Can I include like Facebook conspiracy
01:09:07
related things on this?
01:09:08
>> No. Well, what do you mean?
01:09:10
>> I don't know, man. Just Facebook.
01:09:11
>> Facebook.
01:09:13
>> Facebook.
01:09:14
>> No.
01:09:15
I got one. If you were a Redditor, what
01:09:17
would you what would you write
01:09:19
>> the Illuminati?
01:09:22
Um,
01:09:23
>> which
01:09:24
>> secret secret group knows my where I'm
01:09:26
at.
01:09:27
>> That's pretty That's kind of like this,
01:09:29
but not
01:09:30
>> I think that's closer to I thought that
01:09:31
was closer to that. I thought that's
01:09:32
what that movie was about.
01:09:33
>> This is like
01:09:34
>> This is like some This is movie.
01:09:36
>> Who here has seen the movie Don't Look
01:09:37
Up.
01:09:38
>> I don't think so.
01:09:38
>> Oh, yeah. I've seen that.
01:09:39
>> Was that the Give Adam the points then
01:09:41
just automatically? I I haven't seen it.
01:09:43
Have you seen it?
01:09:44
>> Does he need these points? I haven't
01:09:45
seen it, but I know a little bit more.
01:09:47
>> It's four points.
01:09:47
>> I know someone who needs points. You can
01:09:49
have
01:09:50
>> giving Adam points.
01:09:51
>> Yeah, Adam, you have the board.
01:09:53
>> All right.
01:09:55
Reasons.
01:09:57
>> Say more.
01:09:57
>> Say more.
01:09:58
>> So,
01:10:00
because they want to sell you things.
01:10:02
>> No.
01:10:03
>> Marquez.
01:10:04
>> I feel like I've seen this on Reddit a
01:10:06
lot. This one time I was talking about
01:10:08
something and then I got an ad for it.
01:10:10
>> Personal story of phone showing exactly
01:10:12
what they thought about was the number
01:10:13
one answer on the board. We didn't want
01:10:14
to give it to you earlier, but that was
01:10:15
just too on the nose. Marquez. Yeah,
01:10:17
I've seen that on Reddit quite a bit.
01:10:18
>> The Michael Jordan of of Reddit guessing
01:10:20
>> from the logo.
01:10:22
>> Let's let's go one more one more guess
01:10:24
from everyone here and then we'll wrap
01:10:25
up this one.
01:10:25
>> All right, so this one is, is my phone
01:10:27
reading my mind?
01:10:28
>> Yeah.
01:10:29
>> Yeah.
01:10:30
>> As answered by Reddit folk.
01:10:32
>> All three of the remaining answers on
01:10:33
the board are insane.
01:10:35
>> Okay,
01:10:35
>> Mark.
01:10:37
>> The artificial intelligence is
01:10:38
simulating a human mind,
01:10:40
>> but we we cannot give you those points,
01:10:42
unfortunately.
01:10:42
>> When we're just like, we're in a
01:10:43
simulation.
01:10:44
>> Yes, the number six answer. We are
01:10:46
living in a Truman showike simulation.
01:10:48
Amazing. Mariah,
01:10:50
>> you have control of the board for this
01:10:52
last
01:10:53
>> conspiracy theory. Name another
01:10:55
conspiracy.
01:10:56
>> One of these is another conspiracy
01:10:58
theory. And I'll give you a hint. This
01:10:59
one is for the girls.
01:11:01
>> It's for the girls. Oh no.
01:11:04
>> Birds aren't real.
01:11:05
>> What are we What are we lying about?
01:11:09
>> I'm not supposed to tell.
01:11:11
>> Yeah. What did you guys talk about the
01:11:12
last convention? What was the last
01:11:13
meeting? Gwennneth Paltro conspiracies
01:11:15
>> goop.
01:11:16
>> But what's the conspiracy? Come on, give
01:11:18
me something.
01:11:19
>> Is she like I already said Illuminati.
01:11:21
Um, aliens.
01:11:22
>> Let me help.
01:11:26
>> Pirates of the Caribbean.
01:11:28
>> Conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory.
01:11:30
>> The blood of the youth. No.
01:11:32
>> Adrina.
01:11:36
>> Pizza gate.
01:11:38
>> Okay.
01:11:39
>> Sorry. I got that.
01:11:40
>> Can your phone read your mind?
01:11:43
Uh,
01:11:45
>> conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy.
01:11:48
>> I got nothing.
01:11:48
>> I can't think of anything else.
01:11:51
>> Well,
01:11:52
>> what did we miss?
01:11:53
>> That's okay. I think we wrap this one
01:11:56
up.
01:11:56
>> What is it?
01:11:57
>> The last two on the board are the number
01:11:58
three answer, manifestation theory.
01:12:00
We're creating these synchronicities. Or
01:12:03
number seven answer, haptic feedback,
01:12:05
reading energy vibrations through hands.
01:12:08
>> The crystals cryst
01:12:10
>> the frequencies and the manifest.
01:12:12
vibrations.
01:12:15
>> Holy crap. Okay.
01:12:16
>> Okay.
01:12:17
>> The point standings now are Mariah with
01:12:19
116 points at the back, Adam with 260
01:12:22
points in the middle, and Marquez with a
01:12:23
whopping 360 points in the lead.
01:12:27
>> Is this a tech podcast?
01:12:29
>> No,
01:12:29
>> it's about to be because it's times to
01:12:32
hit you guys with the absolute banger of
01:12:34
this game.
01:12:36
>> The question is,
01:12:38
>> this is an r/android.
01:12:40
>> Oh, let's go. Oh, I'm ready for today.
01:12:42
>> I've spent enough hours.
01:12:43
>> I was in there this morning. Let's go.
01:12:46
>> What is the worst Android phone you've
01:12:50
ever owned?
01:12:51
>> Marquez.
01:12:52
>> God, there's so many. That could be
01:12:53
number one. HTC Thunderbolt.
01:12:57
>> Number three answer.
01:12:58
>> No way. Really?
01:13:01
>> Okay, good. Worst Android phone.
01:13:06
I want to go with a Nexus. I was
01:13:08
thinking something similar, but
01:13:10
>> Nexus 4.
01:13:14
>> Nexus 4 is literally on there. I
01:13:16
apologize.
01:13:16
>> What?
01:13:17
>> Okay. Worst Android phone I've ever
01:13:19
used. Um,
01:13:21
Samsung
01:13:24
Galaxy S25 Edge. It's probably not on
01:13:27
there yet. It's probably too soon for
01:13:29
that to be up there.
01:13:31
>> Galaxy S8 Edge or S7 Edge. I forget
01:13:35
which one it was.
01:13:37
Mariah
01:13:38
>> Pixel 6. No reason in particular.
01:13:40
>> Pixel 6 is on there. No way.
01:13:43
>> From experience.
01:13:44
>> Specifically noted worth the battery
01:13:45
life and overheating issues.
01:13:47
>> Let's go.
01:13:48
>> Oh my god.
01:13:49
>> Um, Galaxy S8. Oh, no. No. Yes. I'm
01:13:53
going to say that one.
01:13:54
>> No. Okay.
01:13:55
>> No.
01:13:56
>> Worst Android phone I ever used.
01:13:59
>> What's the really really thick Is it
01:14:02
Motorola phone?
01:14:04
>> Oh my god. What's the big daddy phone?
01:14:07
>> Motorola.
01:14:08
>> I don't know. I don't know.
01:14:10
>> Motorola. Come on. Just name a Motorola
01:14:13
phone. Any Motorola phone. You can do
01:14:15
it.
01:14:15
>> What does Paris Hilton have?
01:14:18
>> I don't know. You know the one I'm
01:14:20
talking about.
01:14:20
>> I don't.
01:14:21
>> She had a razor phone today.
01:14:22
>> Can I Google this? What is this thing
01:14:23
called?
01:14:26
>> Android phone I've ever used.
01:14:28
>> Galaxy Nexus.
01:14:31
>> No, that one everyone loved. I loved it,
01:14:33
but it had some problems.
01:14:36
>> Uh,
01:14:37
LG
01:14:39
>> Wing.
01:14:40
>> Oh, there's a lot of LG phones I found
01:14:42
here.
01:14:42
>> Marquez.
01:14:43
>> Okay. LG G8.
01:14:45
>> No, that one was awesome.
01:14:47
>> Okay. LG G9.
01:14:49
>> Adam.
01:14:50
>> Okay.
01:14:50
>> LG G6.
01:14:52
>> The Note 7.
01:14:54
>> Yes.
01:14:54
>> Oh, why are you googling this?
01:14:56
>> I couldn't remember what it's called.
01:14:59
>> Listen, this isn't my life. I don't know
01:15:00
all these phones. The Note 7 noted for
01:15:02
its explosion risk.
01:15:04
>> That makes sense. That
01:15:05
>> track did explode.
01:15:06
>> What's the one that like exploded? The
01:15:08
Samsung phone that was the Note 7. Was
01:15:11
that the
01:15:13
>> That was the one.
01:15:14
>> Great. Okay.
01:15:15
>> Yeah.
01:15:15
>> Um
01:15:17
>> H you know another Android phone. Um is
01:15:20
there like a like a Razer situation in
01:15:24
here?
01:15:26
>> Yeah, I'll give that one to you. Razer M
01:15:28
>> was on there. Yeah,
01:15:30
>> I I'm only giving you that one because
01:15:32
uh you're so
01:15:34
>> What number was that?
01:15:35
>> Uh just Razer M.
01:15:36
>> We still don't have one, two, or three,
01:15:38
right?
01:15:38
>> Oh, yes.
01:15:39
>> You have three. You don't have one or
01:15:40
two.
01:15:40
>> Okay. Okay. 125.
01:15:42
>> The first Android phone ever.
01:15:44
>> Ever.
01:15:45
>> Ever made?
01:15:45
>> Ever made
01:15:46
>> or ever that they use, right?
01:15:48
>> Is it ever owned?
01:15:50
>> Owned. Owned. Okay. Okay.
01:15:52
>> Android.
01:15:52
>> You guys were getting close to it for a
01:15:55
little bit.
01:15:55
>> Can I say the the Samsung Fold one? That
01:15:58
is not here. Okay, that is good.
01:16:03
>> So bad. The bad phone.
01:16:06
>> The Z Flip one.
01:16:09
>> I'm going to think of like phones that
01:16:10
were bust of the year. Like it's not
01:16:12
going to be the saga salana. It's not
01:16:13
going to be upvoted a lot, but
01:16:15
>> something is a lot of old stuff on this.
01:16:16
>> It has to be a phone that people have.
01:16:18
>> This is not upvoted. This is how many
01:16:20
people actually wrote this down.
01:16:23
>> Oh,
01:16:23
>> yeah. This is not up voted.
01:16:25
>> How many people wrote it? Yeah.
01:16:27
>> Oh, I was going to say Red Hydrogen.
01:16:29
>> Oh, but nobody bought that, so that's
01:16:30
not going to be up there.
01:16:31
>> Um,
01:16:33
>> okay.
01:16:34
>> Start naming phones, man.
01:16:36
>> What's a phone that a lot of people
01:16:37
>> That's what I'm thinking.
01:16:38
>> A lot of people bought it and a lot of
01:16:40
people didn't like it.
01:16:41
>> The Motorola Droid
01:16:43
X.
01:16:45
>> I love that phone. It was lumped in with
01:16:47
Motorola Droid series/razer.
01:16:49
>> Okay, that's one answer.
01:16:50
>> Mariah,
01:16:51
>> what's that Windows phone?
01:16:54
>> Not an R/ Android. Oh my god.
01:16:59
>> Mandela effects.
01:17:01
>> Right. You just got recconed.
01:17:04
>> Android phone has the worst.
01:17:06
>> Guys, I can uh we we can we can wrap
01:17:07
this up if we feel like we're getting
01:17:09
slow. But I will say got to get
01:17:10
>> I don't know what an Android phone.
01:17:11
>> Adam and Marquez, you guys were circling
01:17:13
the drain earlier.
01:17:15
>> When When
01:17:15
>> LG G3?
01:17:17
>> No.
01:17:19
>> LG Wing.
01:17:20
>> I said that.
01:17:21
>> No one cares about that phone.
01:17:22
>> LG G5.
01:17:24
>> No.
01:17:26
LG1
01:17:28
>> LG4.
01:17:31
>> The number one answer on this. The
01:17:34
>> G4
01:17:35
was sick.
01:17:36
>> The G4 people said that it had boot loop
01:17:39
issues.
01:17:39
>> Oh my. The G4 was Yeah, it was. Yeah, it
01:17:42
was bad.
01:17:43
>> I was going to say G Flex.
01:17:44
>> The G5 had like the modular like pull
01:17:46
out the battery thing.
01:17:47
>> Damn.
01:17:48
>> But the G4 was was
01:17:49
>> That was number one.
01:17:50
>> Okay.
01:17:51
>> That was number one, guys. I think we
01:17:52
should wrap it here. There is no
01:17:54
possible way.
01:17:55
>> Oh, wait. No, I could get I could get
01:17:56
one. Although, no one bought them. Like
01:17:58
Sony Xperia one.
01:18:01
>> Give it to them.
01:18:01
>> All Sony Xperia phones is the number 10
01:18:04
answer.
01:18:06
>> What?
01:18:06
>> Who even knows those exist?
01:18:08
>> Six people apparently.
01:18:10
>> Six. This is a small thread.
01:18:13
>> Okay.
01:18:13
>> Okay. Wow.
01:18:14
>> That's it? That's all of them?
01:18:15
>> That's all of them?
01:18:16
>> No, there's more. Oh
01:18:17
>> guys, the answers left on the board
01:18:19
include the number two answer, the
01:18:21
Samsung Galaxy J series/ Samsung budget
01:18:25
phones noted their laggy terrible
01:18:28
experience.
01:18:29
>> H
01:18:29
>> the Samsung S21 and S22 series for
01:18:32
overhearing, excuse me, overheating and
01:18:34
people were upset about Exynos
01:18:36
>> S20 Ultra.
01:18:37
>> Uh just 21 and 22 series is what uh Quen
01:18:40
decided to sum up for us. It's just
01:18:42
>> at number seven, 12 people put OnePlus
01:18:44
early models, including the 3T and 7
01:18:47
Pro, for software issues.
01:18:49
>> 7 Pro is one of my favorite phones ever.
01:18:50
>> Yeah, phone is awesome.
01:18:52
>> Interesting. Wow.
01:18:52
>> Okay.
01:18:54
>> Well, okay.
01:18:54
>> Um I think
01:18:56
>> So, I won, right?
01:18:57
>> Hear me out. We're combining our points
01:18:59
>> into one to beat
01:19:01
>> I don't I still we would win.
01:19:03
>> You still
01:19:03
>> You still wouldn't beat him.
01:19:04
>> There's surely there's
01:19:07
>> surely it's not possible.
01:19:09
>> Uh you would still be about 30 points
01:19:10
short. Oh,
01:19:11
>> damn.
01:19:12
>> Wow.
01:19:12
>> Do you guys want
01:19:13
>> Okay, Marquez, I have a proposition.
01:19:16
>> I think I think we got to wrap this game
01:19:18
up and we'll we'll pick it up maybe as a
01:19:19
segment in the next trivia extravagana,
01:19:21
guys.
01:19:23
>> Oh, the lights are being really weird
01:19:25
today.
01:19:27
>> Anyway, thank you for playing Reddit
01:19:28
Family Food. Our final scores, Mariah
01:19:30
the caboose with 153 points, Adam
01:19:34
carrying the one with 297 points, and
01:19:38
Marquez absolutely dominating the field
01:19:41
with 446 points. Thank you for playing.
01:19:44
Thank you, Rufus, for coming on today's
01:19:46
little segment game thing.
01:19:49
Andrew David, we miss you from home.
01:19:52
>> Come home.
01:19:55
>> Come back to him.
01:19:56
>> You can't be far.
01:19:56
>> The lights are so bright at the big
01:19:58
table. Come back. I missed my corner.
01:20:00
You can bring all the new ones with you.
01:20:01
>> The little ones.
01:20:03
>> Guys, with that, we have our actual
01:20:05
trivia.
01:20:06
>> Oh, no.
01:20:07
>> Okay, I'm ready.
01:20:08
>> No one hit your buzzer because it'll
01:20:10
mess up the computer.
01:20:11
>> Oh,
01:20:11
>> is there another question?
01:20:12
>> There is another question. It's also
01:20:13
about Google.
01:20:14
>> No,
01:20:16
>> guys. Google's official blog, The
01:20:18
Keyword, which is notoriously wrong
01:20:20
about Google things all the time, um,
01:20:23
has a convoluted and frankly confusing
01:20:26
article about how Gemini got its name.
01:20:28
I've read it several times and I'm still
01:20:30
not sure where they got the name Gemini
01:20:32
from. But you know what is not mentioned
01:20:34
on this confusing article?
01:20:37
What Gemini was called when it was re
01:20:40
first when it was first released.
01:20:42
Because if everyone remembers, they
01:20:43
changed the name to Gemini after a
01:20:46
little bit.
01:20:46
>> Oh, I remember. I remember.
01:20:47
>> What was Gemini called upon its release?
01:20:50
I know everyone's going to be like, "Oh,
01:20:51
when it was released, it was a chatbot.
01:20:52
Now it's like a different Shut up."
01:20:54
>> Like, I don't care.
01:20:55
>> Not that.
01:20:56
>> I don't care. Tiny man.
01:20:58
>> Got it.
01:20:59
>> Tiny man.
01:20:59
>> What are those tiny guys doing?
01:21:01
>> Yeah, they're they're stepping on your
01:21:02
computer.
01:21:03
>> They're inside my computer.
01:21:05
>> Yeah, they're working on Anyway, uh
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actually want to chat briefly about
01:23:28
Fitbit Air, which is a new announcement
01:23:30
technically from Google, who bought
01:23:32
Fitbit and then turned Fitbit into
01:23:34
Google Health.
01:23:35
>> And what wait, so what was Google Fit?
01:23:37
>> So Google Well, Google Fit is no more.
01:23:40
And there was the the Fitbit app, which
01:23:42
they moved into this beta which was all
01:23:44
this new stuff. It is now the Google
01:23:46
Health app.
01:23:47
>> Yeah. So, the Fitbit Air is their new
01:23:50
screenless uh we saw the leaks of this.
01:23:52
We talked about it like two or three
01:23:53
episodes before. Their screenless
01:23:55
fitness tracker that is supposed to
01:23:56
compete directly with the Whoop and all
01:23:58
the other screenless fitness trackers,
01:23:59
but the the Whoop is a big one.
01:24:00
>> It's official now.
01:24:02
>> It is. It's really interesting. I think
01:24:04
they're coming straight for Whoop's
01:24:05
lunch because I think the number one
01:24:07
thing you'd probably hear from Whoop
01:24:08
customers about what they don't like is
01:24:10
that it's an it's a subscription and
01:24:12
it's it's not cheap. It's like $250 to
01:24:14
$350 a year depending on which
01:24:16
subscription level you get. So, the
01:24:18
Fitbit is 99 bucks,
01:24:20
>> uh, unlike the Whoop, which was 50, but
01:24:22
that is in addition to a $9.99 per month
01:24:26
subscription to Google Health Premium,
01:24:29
which is actually not necessary to use
01:24:31
the Fitbit. So, you can use the Fitbit
01:24:32
without the subscription. It does basic
01:24:33
stuff, calorie tracking, heartbeat,
01:24:35
stuff like that. But for all the
01:24:36
features, 10 bucks a month.
01:24:37
>> You just don't get like the AI health
01:24:39
coach and stuff.
01:24:40
>> Yeah. And like the more detailed
01:24:41
tracking and things like that and
01:24:42
workouts, automatic workout detection,
01:24:44
all that fun stuff. So, it is definitely
01:24:46
undercutting the Whoop price. And then
01:24:48
for people who were thinking about
01:24:49
getting a Whoop or were thinking, I
01:24:50
don't want to spend
01:24:51
>> as much as I am on the Whoop, maybe I'll
01:24:53
I'll move to the Google side of things.
01:24:55
It'll work on iOS or Android,
01:24:57
>> which is crazy to me,
01:24:58
>> which is nice.
01:24:59
>> That is weird.
01:25:00
>> You know, obviously, uh, a lot of these
01:25:02
things are locked to one side or the
01:25:03
other. Pixel Watch is only going to work
01:25:05
on Android. Apple Watch is only going to
01:25:06
work on Apple's side of the fence, but,
01:25:08
you know, these fitness trackers
01:25:10
>> working with both is nice. And it's got
01:25:13
some nice features. So, it's going to
01:25:14
have a 7-day battery life roughly. You
01:25:16
saw the different colors. There's like a
01:25:17
Steph Curry special edition, but there's
01:25:19
also a black one.
01:25:20
>> Uh, you can charge it for 5 minutes to
01:25:22
get one day of battery life.
01:25:24
>> Clutch.
01:25:24
>> It has a regular charger. It doesn't
01:25:26
have like that. The Whoop charger has a
01:25:29
pin. Well, it has a proprietary charger.
01:25:30
>> Has a proprietary charger.
01:25:32
>> Charger has like a little puck that you
01:25:33
can like slide onto the Whoop itself.
01:25:35
>> That is sick.
01:25:36
>> It's really cool.
01:25:37
>> I like that a lot.
01:25:38
>> I will say when I was using it for a
01:25:39
bit, I would slide it onto the Whoop and
01:25:41
then just like go about my day. That
01:25:43
thing slaps into everything. Every
01:25:44
corner you turn around, you're you're
01:25:46
hitting that thing.
01:25:46
>> But as soon as it's done, you take it
01:25:48
off and it's right back.
01:25:48
>> Yeah, it's super dope that you don't
01:25:49
even have to take it off to charge it.
01:25:51
>> Yeah,
01:25:51
>> really clever.
01:25:52
>> So, uh 50 m of water resistance. It
01:25:55
should have a haptic alarm. There's like
01:25:58
a bunch of features you would expect in
01:26:00
the Fitbit Air.
01:26:01
>> No notifications for Andrew, though.
01:26:03
>> No notifications, obviously. No screen,
01:26:05
no time. Um, but yeah, as far as
01:26:07
competing directly with the Whoop, it
01:26:09
feels like this is just like, hey, do
01:26:11
the same thing the Whoop does. Give all
01:26:13
the same information, but make it
01:26:15
cheaper.
01:26:15
>> I'm really excited for this because I've
01:26:17
been using the Pixel Watch 3 for a bit
01:26:19
and I was paying for the Fitbit Premium
01:26:21
and I had the whole AI beta coach thing
01:26:23
this whole time. And I really liked it,
01:26:26
but it required me to wear the Pixel
01:26:28
Watch. And it's not that I don't like
01:26:29
wearing the Pixel watch, it's just that
01:26:30
I also like wearing regular watches. So
01:26:32
whenever I would wear a different watch,
01:26:35
I all of a sudden wouldn't get my steps.
01:26:36
I wouldn't get my sleep tracking. I
01:26:38
wouldn't get all these things. And it's
01:26:39
like, it's not a big deal. Who cares?
01:26:40
Whatever. It's not the end of the world.
01:26:41
But it's just like a nice to have thing.
01:26:43
And Fitbit to me was always that kind of
01:26:46
product where you just put it on. Like
01:26:48
when it first came out, it was just like
01:26:49
a small little thing that you put in a
01:26:50
strap, a band, and you can swap out the
01:26:52
bands just like this one. And it was
01:26:54
like one of the first ones to do that
01:26:55
and just give you like basic tracking
01:26:56
stuff.
01:26:57
>> And that's all I've wanted for so long.
01:26:59
So I'm very glad that they're doing
01:27:00
this. I'm just very confused that
01:27:02
they're killing the Fitbit brand.
01:27:03
>> Yeah.
01:27:04
>> Which makes no sense to me. Like a
01:27:05
>> Google thing to do.
01:27:06
>> Yeah, that's fair.
01:27:07
>> Sort of.
01:27:08
>> But Fitbit is like it has such good
01:27:10
brand recognition. Like, oh, it's the
01:27:12
Fitbit, you know, like now they're
01:27:13
turning it into Google Health, which has
01:27:15
like a whole different set of
01:27:16
implications. And
01:27:17
>> the product is still a Fitbit.
01:27:19
>> Yeah.
01:27:19
>> So, you're still buying a Fitbit,
01:27:21
>> but then you have to attach it to Google
01:27:23
Health.
01:27:23
>> Yes.
01:27:24
>> Yeah.
01:27:24
>> Not the Fitbit app. Like if I'm on an
01:27:26
iPhone and I go to Best Buy and I buy a
01:27:27
Fitbit,
01:27:28
>> now I need to download a Google Health
01:27:30
app, which hits different.
01:27:32
>> Yeah. It's surprising as like a legacy
01:27:34
brand that they would want to rename
01:27:36
after how many years they have been
01:27:37
Fitbit because like like you said, I
01:27:40
don't think, you know, a boomer is going
01:27:41
to be like, "What? Google's tracking my
01:27:43
stuff?" Even though Google's owned them
01:27:45
for years and they know what a Fitbit
01:27:47
is, but they don't know what Google
01:27:49
Health is or like, you know, all these
01:27:50
other things. It feels like a big
01:27:52
>> unnecessary step maybe. But if they're
01:27:54
trying to consolidate the brand as a
01:27:56
whole for all their health stuff.
01:27:57
>> I mean, I get why they're doing it. It's
01:27:59
just I feel like Fitbit has such good
01:28:01
brand cache.
01:28:02
>> It does.
01:28:02
>> Yeah. I think the one thing So, Whoop's
01:28:04
obviously already very popular and has
01:28:06
been for a long time. And I think the
01:28:07
biggest advantage I actually see between
01:28:09
them now that I I plan on testing them
01:28:11
both at the same time, side by side, and
01:28:13
really investigating and digging deep.
01:28:15
>> You're like our little lab rat.
01:28:17
>> Yeah. Honestly, I'm just going to wear
01:28:18
them both. It's going to be horrible.
01:28:18
But the thing that Whoop has going for
01:28:21
it is there's a ton of accessories for
01:28:23
it.
01:28:23
>> Yeah.
01:28:24
>> That aren't available at least out the
01:28:26
gate right now with the Fitbit Air. I'm
01:28:27
sure in 2 seconds on Amazon there will
01:28:29
be a ton of third party ones. But like
01:28:30
when you go to buy a Whoop, there's
01:28:32
like, oh, you want a Whoop, do you also
01:28:33
want a chest strap? Do you also want
01:28:34
like a thousand extra bands? And also,
01:28:36
we have underwear that you could put the
01:28:37
Whoop in. Like they have a ton of stuff.
01:28:39
And the Fitbit Air, there's not even a
01:28:40
chest strap or an armband. It's just the
01:28:42
normal bands on your wrist yet.
01:28:45
>> So that's what I'm noticing. But I'm
01:28:47
going to test them. I'll have them side
01:28:48
by side. So, I'll literally AB test like
01:28:50
exactly how long the battery life is.
01:28:52
I'm going to do the same workouts with
01:28:53
both of them. I think it'll be really
01:28:54
interesting. I also think they'll be
01:28:56
very similar.
01:28:56
>> Whoop is really good at the activity
01:28:58
auto detection. So, I'm curious is
01:29:01
really good, too.
01:29:02
>> It's surprising. Well, the Apple Watch
01:29:05
that I've been wearing for a long time
01:29:06
is not good at that.
01:29:08
>> It does it sometimes, like if my GPS
01:29:10
location is moving for a while and I'm
01:29:12
outside, then it'll be like, "Oh, are
01:29:13
you doing an outdoor walk?" But I could
01:29:15
start biking. I could start playing
01:29:16
ultimate. I could start practice. I can
01:29:18
start running and it doesn't really
01:29:19
usually auto start.
01:29:21
>> So, I'm curious to see how well these
01:29:22
will like auto detect and then
01:29:24
automeasure and then tag them
01:29:26
accurately. We'll see.
01:29:27
>> Whoop to my memory cuz I haven't used it
01:29:29
in like a year or two. I think maybe
01:29:31
like a year. But it doesn't detect it as
01:29:34
you're doing it. Like you have to go
01:29:36
through the activity and then afterwards
01:29:38
it'll look back on your data and be
01:29:39
like, "Oh, there was elevated heart rate
01:29:40
here and according to their phone, they
01:29:42
were outside so maybe they're doing a
01:29:43
run." And then it'll like tag it as a
01:29:44
run, right? You know,
01:29:45
>> exactly that kind of thing. And then you
01:29:46
if it tags it wrong, you can adjust it.
01:29:48
>> Yeah. But I do like on the Apple Watch
01:29:50
and on like the Pixel Watch, if I'm
01:29:51
doing something, it'll just be like, "It
01:29:52
looks like you're walking. Do you want
01:29:54
to start a workout?" Like that's pretty
01:29:55
cool.
01:29:55
>> The thing on the watch is is when you
01:29:57
start a workout, then it's doing this
01:29:59
way, way more granular measuring. It's
01:30:01
doing like way more sampling and way
01:30:03
more frequent measuring of heart rate
01:30:04
and things like that, which is why I
01:30:06
start the workout manually every time
01:30:08
because I want to get that data. So, I'm
01:30:10
curious like if I go start a practice or
01:30:11
if I go start a HIT workout and then my
01:30:13
heart rate drops between sets, is it
01:30:15
going to go, "Oh, don't have to measure
01:30:17
anymore."
01:30:18
>> Not really sure how it's going to go,
01:30:19
but
01:30:21
>> both.
01:30:21
>> I'm going to So, my plan, tell me if you
01:30:24
like this plan or if this is dumb. I'm
01:30:25
going to keep the Apple Watch on my
01:30:26
right wrist.
01:30:27
>> I don't like it.
01:30:28
>> I'm going to have the Fitbit Air and the
01:30:30
Whoop on my left wrist.
01:30:32
>> Okay.
01:30:32
>> And then I'm going to do all my workouts
01:30:33
wearing all three. So, I have a control
01:30:36
cuz I know what numbers I usually get to
01:30:37
the Apple Watch. But I'll do the
01:30:38
workouts, I'll do the practices, and
01:30:40
then I'll get both of the readings from
01:30:42
the Whoop and the Fitbit Air and compare
01:30:44
them.
01:30:45
>> Can we get you like a chest strap? How
01:30:47
do you feel about being chest strapped
01:30:49
up?
01:30:49
>> I don't mind that, but the chest strap
01:30:50
for the Whoop is probably going to
01:30:51
measure differently from the arm strap,
01:30:54
the armband for the Fitbit. So, that's
01:30:56
why I'm keeping them both on.
01:30:57
>> Okay. Yeah, that makes sense.
01:30:58
>> You You can do that.
01:31:00
>> You have fun.
01:31:02
>> All three.
01:31:02
>> You sound thrilled for me.
01:31:03
>> Yeah, it's Yeah, I I mean, it's the best
01:31:06
way to probably test it. Um, would I
01:31:08
approach you wearing all three? I might
01:31:11
not.
01:31:12
>> No, I'll be I'll be repelling people
01:31:14
from me for the three weeks that I need
01:31:16
to test them. But yeah, hopefully the
01:31:18
video is worth it.
01:31:19
>> Mariah, which one are you getting? Which
01:31:20
one?
01:31:21
>> Um, probably. I mean, I got Pixel Watch
01:31:24
already.
01:31:25
>> So, you're not going to get a Fitbit?
01:31:26
You're good.
01:31:27
>> I think I'm good. I do enjoy a low
01:31:29
barrier to entry. I think a low price
01:31:31
point is good. And I don't necessarily
01:31:33
need the screen. Um, it is interesting
01:31:35
that it does only save the data for 30
01:31:37
days. Is that pretty standard for both
01:31:39
of these?
01:31:39
>> Well, I think that saves it on the
01:31:41
device for 30 days. So, if you like
01:31:43
forget your phone or your phone breaks
01:31:45
or something, it'll still track for 30
01:31:46
days and then it'll transfer over.
01:31:48
>> Huh. Yeah. I don't think I'm going to
01:31:49
buy one.
01:31:50
>> You know what's nice about You have a
01:31:51
Pixel Watch.
01:31:52
>> Yeah.
01:31:52
>> You know what's nice about the Fitbit
01:31:54
Air is that also talks to Google Health
01:31:57
and so you can hot swap between them and
01:31:59
they will just pick up where the other
01:32:01
left off. So, if you don't want to wear
01:32:03
the the Pixel Watch while sleeping, the
01:32:05
Fitbit Air can be your sleep tracker and
01:32:07
then you swap back to the watch during
01:32:09
the daytime
01:32:10
>> and it'll sort of just keep all the data
01:32:11
in line,
01:32:12
>> which sounds kind of cool.
01:32:13
>> I just don't think I need to track every
01:32:15
moment of my existence
01:32:18
>> and have that data.
01:32:19
>> Um, cuz I'm not trying to optimize, but
01:32:21
I do appreciate the people that want to
01:32:23
optimize.
01:32:24
>> I need the data. Yeah.
01:32:25
>> I need to know how many steps I've taken
01:32:26
in my lifetime.
01:32:27
>> Yeah.
01:32:27
>> It's very important to me.
01:32:28
>> Got to hit that high score.
01:32:29
>> Yeah. Well, there it is. I mean, yeah,
01:32:32
stay tuned for the for the video.
01:32:33
Obviously, that's it's in the works,
01:32:35
which means I'll be getting my hands on
01:32:36
both soon. So, TBD.
01:32:38
>> Uh, but yeah, I'm just I'm just glad I
01:32:40
got the points in in our little game
01:32:42
that we played.
01:32:43
>> Speaking of points, though,
01:32:44
>> my turn. My turn to get points.
01:32:46
>> Time for the actual trivia questions.
01:32:50
>> Here we go.
01:32:52
>> All the questions.
01:32:54
>> All right, everybody.
01:32:56
>> Nobody asked except for me. How
01:33:00
Many Google products and services have
01:33:03
the letters B O K next to each other.
01:33:12
And this is closest without going over.
01:33:14
Prices right rules.
01:33:15
>> Okay.
01:33:17
>> Have ever existed.
01:33:18
>> Well, there's
01:33:21
there's Facebook.
01:33:24
There's the books. Palmer.
01:33:28
Wait, this is but this is Google
01:33:29
specific products.
01:33:30
>> There's Barnes & Noles.
01:33:33
>> MacBook Pro.
01:33:34
>> MacBook Pro.
01:33:35
>> All right. Who would like to go first?
01:33:38
>> I'll go cuz I can explain my silly
01:33:39
little chart here.
01:33:40
>> All right. What do we got?
01:33:41
>> So, my number is six.
01:33:43
>> Okay.
01:33:44
>> I don't actually know the name of six,
01:33:46
but I figure there's Chromebook Pixel,
01:33:48
there's regular Chromebooks, there's
01:33:50
Google Books, there's
01:33:52
>> Google Book.
01:33:53
>> Mhm. That's four. And then there's
01:33:54
probably some sort of like a bookfinder
01:33:56
service that they had. And then there's
01:33:57
probably like a bookings service that
01:33:59
they also had.
01:34:00
>> If there was a booking service, then it
01:34:01
wasn't it didn't have the word book in
01:34:03
it. And Google Books was the book
01:34:05
finding service. But I will say six is
01:34:07
under the number I found.
01:34:09
>> Oh god. Wow.
01:34:09
>> So you are technically still in
01:34:10
contention.
01:34:11
>> Okay. I had five out.
01:34:13
>> And you don't care to list any of them?
01:34:15
>> Um, no.
01:34:16
>> Okay.
01:34:18
Mariah, what did you put?
01:34:19
>> If it's seven or eight or nine, you win.
01:34:23
Well,
01:34:25
I'm gonna make David so proud. Um, I
01:34:27
picked just a really round number. Lucky
01:34:30
13.
01:34:31
>> Unfortunately, that is over.
01:34:33
>> Oh, really?
01:34:35
>> That is over because I just accidentally
01:34:37
spoiled the answer. The answer is nine.
01:34:38
I found nine Google products and
01:34:40
services. They are. Are you ready?
01:34:42
>> For times like these,
01:34:44
>> I actually made I got a point.
01:34:47
>> The Chromebook.
01:34:48
>> Yeah.
01:34:49
>> Yeah.
01:34:49
>> The Google book,
01:34:50
>> of course.
01:34:50
>> Google books.
01:34:52
>> Yep. Yep. Google Notebook, which was the
01:34:54
precursor to Google Keepbook.
01:34:56
>> No, no, no. Yeah. Then, then notebook.
01:34:58
>> Okay.
01:34:59
>> So, Google Notebook and Notebook LM are
01:35:00
two things. Then the Chromebook Pixel.
01:35:03
>> Okay.
01:35:03
>> The Pixelbook.
01:35:04
>> Uhhuh.
01:35:05
>> The Pixelbook Go.
01:35:06
>> Yes.
01:35:07
>> And and Google Bookmarks.
01:35:10
>> Congratulations.
01:35:11
>> Wow. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
01:35:12
Thank you.
01:35:13
>> Sorry, Andrew.
01:35:13
>> Marquez, this is a big day.
01:35:15
>> Yeah.
01:35:15
>> Because with that point, you have
01:35:17
officially
01:35:19
>> passed Andrew. That is Andrew is now
01:35:23
>> carrying the one like he has for years
01:35:25
at 24 points. Marquez is smack dab in
01:35:28
the middle with 25 and David is still in
01:35:30
first place with a whopping 28 points.
01:35:32
>> All right, this is this is our chance.
01:35:34
I'm going to tie it again for you,
01:35:36
Andrew.
01:35:39
Before Gemini was called Gemini, it was
01:35:43
called what? Which is a little silly
01:35:46
because it was only called this a
01:35:47
handful of years ago, but maybe we
01:35:48
forgot.
01:35:50
Maybe we forgot.
01:35:51
>> And I think it was only called this for
01:35:52
like
01:35:53
>> months,
01:35:53
>> eight months or something.
01:35:55
>> Yeah. And I don't know why they changed
01:35:56
it. Uh
01:35:58
>> because branding.
01:36:00
>> They just thought of a better name.
01:36:01
They're like, "Time to kill another
01:36:02
thing."
01:36:03
>> Did they think of a better name though?
01:36:05
I don't know that to be true.
01:36:06
>> I Yeah, I don't know.
01:36:08
>> I mean, this was a pretty poor name if
01:36:09
it's the one I'm thinking of.
01:36:10
>> I thought it was a great name.
01:36:12
>> Well, we'll see. Okay.
01:36:14
>> All right. Adam, why since you think
01:36:16
it's such a a poor name, why don't you
01:36:17
read the name first?
01:36:19
>> Terrible branding name, not a name. I
01:36:22
went with Google Bard.
01:36:23
>> Googlebard.
01:36:24
>> Oh,
01:36:25
>> is correct.
01:36:26
>> I knew that.
01:36:27
>> Marquez, what did you put?
01:36:28
>> I want to see what Mariah put. I put
01:36:30
Bard.
01:36:31
>> Bard?
01:36:32
>> Yeah.
01:36:32
>> Is correct.
01:36:33
>> Nice. Thank you.
01:36:34
>> Mariah, you also put bard.
01:36:35
>> In hindsight, I did actually know that
01:36:37
information, but I was along the um
01:36:40
astrological sign, so I put what is
01:36:41
zodiac killer.
01:36:43
>> Whoa. You spelled zodiac wrong.
01:36:46
>> Oh,
01:36:46
>> it's the thought. It's the thought.
01:36:49
Audio listeners don't know the
01:36:50
difference.
01:36:52
>> When Google name when Google eventually
01:36:54
kills Gemini at some point, they can
01:36:56
call themselves the Zodiac Killers.
01:36:57
>> Zodiac Killers. There we go.
01:36:59
>> It's available.
01:37:00
>> Yeah.
01:37:01
>> Well, with that,
01:37:03
>> thank you listeners for sticking with us
01:37:04
throughout this whole ordeal. If you're
01:37:06
still here, comment. I don't know. What
01:37:09
should they comment, Marquez?
01:37:10
>> Pancake mix.
01:37:11
>> Pancake mix. There you go.
01:37:12
>> Yeah. Bisquick,
01:37:13
>> if you made if you made it this far,
01:37:15
comment comment pancake mix. Just just
01:37:17
the bisquick and the and the egg and the
01:37:19
milk and then the whisk.
01:37:21
>> Wait, how do you say nesquick? The same
01:37:23
thing.
01:37:23
>> Throw in the oven. 350
01:37:25
>> egg.
01:37:27
>> There you go.
01:37:28
>> Egg is crazy. Egg is a y is crazy. Egg.
01:37:32
>> Wait, how do you guys say it?
01:37:33
>> Egg.
01:37:34
>> And
01:37:36
>> give me some Give me an egg for that
01:37:37
pancake mix.
01:37:40
>> They sound similar enough to me.
01:37:42
I'll let the commenters decide.
01:37:45
>> Thanks for watching. Thanks for
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listening. And thanks, of course, for
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subscribing. The Waveform podcast is
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01:37:52
I believe it.
01:37:53
>> Yeah.
01:37:54
>> Slow growth, baby. That's what counts.
01:37:56
>> It's organic, but it's real. It's very
01:37:57
real. Cuz you got to the end. You
01:37:58
commented about the Pancake Mix. You
01:37:59
subscribe.
01:38:00
>> Tell a friend. Tell a friend about
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Pancake Mix.
01:38:02
>> Tell a friend. All right. Catch you guys
01:38:03
very soon in the next regularly
01:38:05
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01:38:08
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01:38:10
Roven, and today Rufus Mohop. We're part
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01:38:18
>> Sill. Sill Bingo. Let's go.
01:38:24
>> What was that?
01:38:25
>> That's me doing a goose impression.
01:38:27
>> Oh.
01:38:35
So, Adam, is there a way that I won't
01:38:38
have your this?
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