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all right what's going on everybody welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're hosts i'm marquez
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and i'm andrew and we got adam here today with us as well because we're doing a little bit of a special episode
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100. it's it's been a long time in the making it's not our 100th of ever episode but
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it's our 100th video waveform podcast published something like that that's why we're
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treating it it's our 100th video it's not even 100th video no what is it 100th
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it's our 100th episode there was like the original episode that was or like the announcement episode and then
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technically there's like one more bonus episode that was just like the full uncut interview of something so this is
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like our 100 yeah regularly scheduled episodes welcome to our 100th regularly scheduled episode
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we feel pretty good about it though because we got some special things lined up but we're going to talk about the new 5g rollout and how it might affect your
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next flight kind of a weird topic but it's a fun one also some new images and videos of the cyber truck have popped up
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that we haven't seen yet so we're going to react to it and then we're going to end up with our first q a of 2022 so
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it's a good one but first episode 100 we happen to time this perfectly or maybe you guys time this
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perfectly yeah it's a bunch of items personally i personally had everyone subscribe at just the right time so you
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would get these it's pretty sweet these are our uh youtube plaques for the channels and there's two of them let's
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not docks ourselves with these labels you probably can't read them i don't blame them it's not fun with 4k yet
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there's more work out of them there are two there is a youtube uh
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waveform channels plaque and there's also a waveform clips channels plaque because you guys are smart enough to be
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subscribed to both of them and got them both over 100 000 subscribers so we're taking them out of the box this is fun
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for me because i've actually never in person held the new style of
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youtube plaque and uh this probably goes all the way back to the beginnings of like how i feel about youtube i tweeted uh one of
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hank green's videos earlier this year and i said like youtube is kind of an anomaly at how well it treats creators
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and i got tons of replies like what do you mean youtube treats creators as well they treat everyone like garbage if
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maybe they treat the best creators well i'm like no it's kind of a relatively relatively
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speaking like what other platform does most of the things youtube does aside from all the adsense and sharing revenue
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um but having a plaques rewarding people from achieving certain subscriber milestones i don't
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remember tic toc doing that or facebook or anything else like that so it's just another example of something uh youtube
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doesn't have to do but they do all the plaques that i have are from an older generation that look different the ogs
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they're older and thicker and heavier and heavier at least the million one is that thing's like 40 pounds i feel like
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yeah they streamline the process a little bit so let's take a look at these let's get the hundred thousand subscribers oh you open it man you're
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the one editing all these videos i mean you don't have to do both maybe we'll let marquez do the other one but you do the honors of the first year the first
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one can you see that on camera nope i'm gonna have to blur that okay cool perfect opening opening
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there's a nice little letter here congratulations on your subscriber milestone we are honored to take part in recognizing your achievement and want
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your experience to be exceptional this award was inspected and packaged with great care by rick
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thank you rick shout out rick appreciate it thank you rick appreciate it uh we got the nice little letter here hand
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signed by susan which is cool ceo yes they can see that and then this
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one's for the clips so waveform clips channel for passing a hundred thousand so it's the
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silver so they the way they do it just for those unfamiliar is there's a hundred thousand subscriber plaque it is silver there is a one million subscriber
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plaque when you add a digit that one is a little taller and gold and that is very shiny
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that's right this is awesome that's nice that's lightweight i haven't seen this congratulations you dude you've you
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you're the one who got the video like without you video doesn't happen right now so i mean don't make me blush
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obviously the podcast has been going on for a little longer but like since videos come in we've seen great numbers
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from it i mean the channel's been blowing up it's been doing really well and uh can i hold it hopefully it's well
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deserved it's nice it's light yeah it is very it's like a really solid
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quality feeling plaque while still being light and like not terrifying to hang on your wall and just like rip drywall
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screws that's the problem with the million one that you have the million one that i literally can't handle yeah literally weighs 40 pounds
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i'm not exaggerating like how do you hang something that weighs 40 pounds so uh this is nice have you seen the what's
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inside video where he cuts it in half no they cut one of these in half what was in it uh it's just more it's
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more uh alloy this is clear you can see it's hollow through the the holes in the back yeah the the
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actual total thickness of this is only a fraction of this oh but you know no nice
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still cool let's pop the other one out so we can see both of them yeah clips baby i mean i guess we kind of saw the
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uh hey knife guy can we borrow that got you fam check out the knife on the latest edc
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video in the studio channel i thought that was an open blade for a second open her up yeah you hold this
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one all right hold this guy hold my plastic audio listeners thanks for sticking through this because this
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must be kind of okay cut out the dead air yeah this one is also packaged and inspected by rick rick is the man thank
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you rick we're also going to be um doing the studio one soon as well so i wonder if we'll be three for three on
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rick's oh yeah did they come at the same time yeah they all came together it could all be from rick yatto actually i
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think ordered it yeah beforehand but we got all of them at the same time i wonder if they do kind of
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like batches of them oh they spelled it wrong no they're just kidding [Applause]
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i was literally on my way in and i was telling david like i really hope i didn't make a typo on these yeah they do ask you what you want to
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put down here so yeah because technically we still haven't fixed it yet but i think on our youtube
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channel it's wvfrm podcast and then waveform spelled out clips yeah we do have so we wanted to make them together
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we have the full waveform url slash waveform so that's nice yeah yeah look good i like that this is actually like
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3d here like mirror and then a little extruded play button in there it is like an actual mirror like i can see yeah
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nice cool sweet those look awesome all right next a million
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next a million we're working on it make sure to share before the two for the 200th episode you're 1 million
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200 no we could hit it before then we could write it before that i hope um i believe subscribe do you want to just
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hang out with us and react to the cyber truck let's do it because i've seen it and i have you oh okay okay mark hasn't
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i specifically tried not to watch these i mean we've obviously seen cyber truck a new walk around video came out yeah
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there's some new extra pictures a couple things that have changed i've seen a couple i've avoided watching the videos yeah i've seen some like i've seen the
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headlines and basically what's happening is the cyber truck was announced on stage and kind of like how you know when you see like the the concept car and
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then you see the final shipping car there's always differences some are very far apart some of them are pretty close
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like porsche mission e concept oh nothing close it's relatively close it's
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closer to the tie can it looks it looks better than that yeah they got the wheels right they got some of the stuff so like this is uh
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a natural expectation of cyber truck on stage versus cyber truck that hits the streets on stage we did not see
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mirrors uh what else the the the wheels are pretty crazy looking like there's a
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bunch of questions about what the final cyber track is going to look like plus a lot of talks by elon about how they're going to make it smaller
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so should i just click on the video and just watch it just see what's happening what should we do watch it on your
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screen you wanna just three two one and press play okay yeah let me open the url first i did it already is the youtube one
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youtube one yeah the link i put okay i'll press play in three two one play so
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it looks like you're indoors okay right off the bat though that is like the arachnid wheels right they don't look like they don't match
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very well nope they look too small but they look more like wheels than the concept wheels the
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concept wheels almost look like they went to like the edges i like the concept wheels yeah yeah the wheels on
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the concept looked way sicker it looks like a guy in a factory he's got a hard hat on he's just pulling it out of prototype this guy got fired okay so
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we've got i see the cameras in the a-pillar i see no door handles but i do see side view
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mirrors very standard mirrors look at the size of that windshield wiper crazy oh okay the windshield wipers the one
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thing i saw that i am very confused about um it's just a singular windshield wiper
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they're going along like the front of the truck now it's very flat uh honestly from the front i kind of dig it i've
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never been a huge fan of this truck just to say i think if you look at a truck they sort of they built the bottom third
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of the bumper out to be like plastic so it's not like steel all the way to the bottom it's got like a bumper bumper and then it's the like
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steel or whatever yeah that's probably a safety related thing yeah quote-unquote grill or grill
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it's still such a triangle though it's yeah it's kind of strange because the window looks almost like seamless up to
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the front like quarter okay this windshield wiper looks like it's like five feet long and it's one singular the
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amount of torque coming out of the like motor of this one probably is like a nissan leaf motor like that's how much
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power it right that's a serious windshield wiper i wow nissan very interesting [Laughter]
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it's going to take that much to move it okay so i've seen a bunch of different windshield wiper uh
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versions like you see like two that come how do i do this two from one side that wipe next to
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each other or you'll see like overlapping wipers or you'll see the bust ones that go next to each other whenever you have one huge windshield
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wiper on the shape of a normal windshield you're missing part of it so if this is on the driver's side like the
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passenger is just not gonna get very yeah that's not that big of a deal if you're driving i guess um but like a lot
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of times you'll see one big one and then like one small one to kind of like pick up yeah
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um but this one giant one seems also does it was it defaulted as
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like up did you notice that yeah it's just at the side of the it starts at the side rather than starting at the bottom
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it must take so much force to pull that back up while it's scraping across the windshield i mean i know it's not like a
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ton of friction but it literally needs friction in order to work oh he's going it looks like the back on the back truck
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there's a couple uh places for like ratchet straps or being able to tie stuff down to the back of the trunk i
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think that might have been a button for the cover really the tunnel or whatever it's called oh from there
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yeah is are the tires small or is the car big yes
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definitely both uh the cyber truck is massive yeah so i think these are pretty big wheels but compared to the size of
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the cyber truck they're not very big as you can tell i'm gonna pause just because he's done a full 360 alright i've gone all the way around it yeah
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there's still no door handles i've noticed i don't know did you see elon's response to that no he said
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what didn't sorry now i need to because it was it was a very similar to along the lines of like
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all human input as error of course oh you know what this also reminds me of there was a a bit of a more complete
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roadster looking thing floating around i think it also had a giant windshield wiper or two really i think they also
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had to do something about the mirrors and i remember when we saw the roadster prototype and this is still very
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prototyping because there's no roasters out uh you could slide your finger down on the a-pillar and it would unlock the
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door and pop it open seems like it would fail all the time right because we have we've had the mock
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e here before which doesn't have a real handle but it's got this little scoop thing in and you can sort of touch that
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and it pops the door open two inches and you pull it out um cybertruck seems like a ruggedized
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vehicle you'd want like manual handles on but it doesn't have any handles in this video they're really sticking to it
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yeah there's still no handles i yeah so wait how would you does it just sense when you're walking i think that's what
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it pops it open when you come up it's supposed to open for you what if you're just like passing your car this is a
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model x issue if you walk up to the model x with the key in your pocket it can you can set the setting for it to
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auto open the doors so you walk up to the actually no that's not true you have to hit the button you have to hit some
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side of the car thing so on the model x you walk up to it as you get close to it it unlocks then you press the handle and
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it automatically opens the door all the way you get in you put your foot on the brake and it closes the door all the way
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that's cool so that's cool when it works yeah uh it breaks all the time but on
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model and on the cyber truck it seems like they want to do this like touch interface
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so in the end we kept production design almost exactly the same as show car minus those giant mirrors and but
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whatever just some small tweaks here and there to make it slightly better no door handles carve recognizes you and opens
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the door having all four wheels steer is amazing for nimble handling and tight turns oh four wheel steering is cool
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yeah okay that is cool but but the car is gonna recognize you and open the door could you lock or open it said this says
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car recognizes you and opens door imagine that door swinging open into a
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huge steel door or another car or a traffic i mean at least if you hit a shopping cart it's
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not damaging the door it's just launching the shopping cart probably across the parking lot i don't know why the visual of a toddler being flung
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across the floor that's terrible i worked at a restaurant once and a kid walked in front of the
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kitchen door and got slammed pretty hard and i can only imagine that with the cyber truck door but nice deal
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this is pretty wild speculation on how hard it opens i'm assuming they have some sort of camera
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doesn't um model x have something like that where it's side doors that come up it like can judge how far a car is away
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from falcon doors and it's got cameras but also ultrasonic sensors so if it can tell that it's going to have to open a
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certain amount out it'll actually change the path of the door opening so it doesn't hit anything okay that's cool um
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yeah i don't know i think elon's tweet of saying the car recognizes you might be like a fancy way of saying like your phone is your key and when you get close
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to it it'll know it's you i don't know if it's going to have a camera looking and identifying people on the street
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being like oh it's me yeah your owner and then you open the door i don't think it's that crazy but
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yeah i you know door handles useful tough one i would like door that would be are handles the side mirrors on this still
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feel very prototyping it feels like they know they have to add them but they just kind of added whatever on
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um it doesn't feel like it fits with the rest of it so we've had a couple things about door handles number one it
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to me looks kind of like f-150 mirrors like they're just basic mirrors i was like this doesn't not look like it yeah
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yeah the mirrors just look like a standard truck yeah basic truck mirrors the other thing is uh i asked elon about
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the mirrors not being on the roadster and he said this about cyber truck as well which is like okay by law we have
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to install them but you don't have to have them when you're driving the law is about
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manufacturing not about driving on the road so they can make very easy to remove mirrors
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and actually add like cameras in the solution they actually want you to use in the car but include the mirrors just
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for shipping so you get the car and if you want to remove the mirrors you can just pop them off and use the cameras
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theoretically yeah so that's that's what he said about roadster to me that's what he's implied about cyber truck to many
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others neither of these vehicles ship i don't know that any other car does that years ago he said that right right and i
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think that's still the rule but like i've never seen a vehicle ship without well in the us without mirrors there are some there are some that ship with
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cameras where the mirrors were but that's not in the u.s so that windshield wiper is really throwing
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me off it's huge like if you're into passenger seat and you're driving through somewhere scenic you're just not going to see anything
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like if it doesn't i mean i think that reached yeah you can kind of see the where it
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wouldn't hit um unless does it just come all the way across like does it stay vertical yeah
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if any company would over engineer the heck out of a windshield wiper it's tesla with the sun yeah that's the kind
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of innovation i want to see yeah i want a sliding printer printer-like windshield wiper um final thoughts on
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this uh it looks it still looks like a cyber truck to me i think on the scale of like
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concept cars versus final shipping cars if i give the one on stage
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uh a concept car view versus the one we're seeing now turns out to be what ships this is actually relatively close
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to what they originally showed that being said it still looks like a cyber truck it still looks crazy it's
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going to be a site on the road it's going to be a presence on the streets and it's going to be yeah it's going to be a cyber truck it's
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crazy insane yeah i i don't really like it i prefer out of
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the whole concept car versus this car that's out now i much preferred the concept card just because
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it looked cohesive even if it's not the final version like this just does not look cohesive it
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looks like they copy pasted the top of the concept car and pasted it onto a ford f-150 or something i think they
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changed the tires on the final by this i feel like this is i think they're gonna make some sort of rim to go with cyber
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truck because this looks like those are just arachnids are they or what are those new they're probably bigger than normal but
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yeah yeah yeah i think they're gonna make some sort of wheels i'm sure they'll make some with something with some sort of arrow cap on
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it that will probably look the concept one had kind of like an arrow cap feel to it um
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i don't know i'm this is cool i guess it's different it's like gigantic which i really think everyone
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underestimates driving i can't wait to see it in person basically i can't wait to see it i'm going to be terrified when
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these and the hummer evs are on the road like there's going to be way more of these than the hummer ev according to
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pre-orders oh yeah i think there's gonna be i'm far more excited about like the rivien over this
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in a personal aspect the rivien also has this how do you feel about the bar headlight i dig it because i mean
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i don't dig this whole design but i like a bar head the bar headlight when i'm driving in front of a car with bar
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headlights it's a mixed feelings experience but i think they look sick i love a bar tail light always yeah it's
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hard right now because like not many are doing the standard bar headlights so a lot of bar headlights you could see our aftermarket where people are like oh
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yeah people like on their roof they'll put a bar yeah way brighter and then it just sucks and
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then it's at the wrong height yeah no i'm i'm decently into the design originally i did a video on why we're
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getting a cyber truck because we uh we wanted to get one as a camera car
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because all the stuff we've shot we've shot a bunch of camera car videos in the past and we've found like okay we've
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shot out the side of a minivan it's kind of convenient to have the sliding doors we've shot out the back of a pickup truck that's cool you can hang the movie
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out at different angles and stuff like that by mobile you mean brandon both yeah for sure brandon's the arm
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holding the stabilizer um and to us it was like oh cyber truck is kind of the best of
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all of the worlds you can have somebody hanging out the side you can put somebody in the bed it's going to be silent it's going to be just as fast as
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any car we want but we've we've actually uh worked on a much better solution very
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recently and now it's it's back to just being like we have one on order
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i can't wait to shoot this with that oh the audio listeners the cyber truck with
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what we just hooked up with what um spec did you get on it so the triple motor just because we presume
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those will ship first okay what was the one there was a cheaper version right that now people don't think is going to
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come out there was going to be a dual motor and a single motor okay and i think the pres the speculation is that
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they're going to cancel the single motor yeah it'll be a very late shipper that eventually gets canceled
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completely yeah so the highest performance most expensive ones will ship first i also would guess that most
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people who ordered a cyber truck just went to the top not most people i think a lot of people who ordered a cyber
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truck went to the top and that gave them incentive to just convert or switch switch the order and just ship those
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first yeah so i wonder like in terms of going to the top it's
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increasing like your your towing capacity or like torque and stuff like that because how much in
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range i guess right range okay cause like i think of most people when it comes to like pickup trucks now they're going to the top because they want the
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more it's it's an interior thing that really changes when you're like on an f-150 and you're going from like the i
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think it's like the lariat to the like whatever king ranch or something like that you're getting like some crazy
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interior and then like because you're like living in your truck pretty much these all be the same yeah these will be
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you get a yolk they all have a yolk they all have that like that's like so much fun for towing things when you have to
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like really be specific about it uh they have that weird marble countertop thing
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about that yeah they've they've got two rows of seats they've got the three in the front three in the back thing
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happening and although the middle is like an armrest that folds down bench front seat yeah
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it's been a while since that's been yeah i remember i remember shooting this video and like looking at this it's just a countertop with a yolk and
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like a center screen like a model three center screen bit bigger so yeah they'll all have the same trim
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but yeah yeah if you go for the highest end version you get yeah towing capacity range and a faster zero to 60. yeah
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faster whatever what's the fat what is the faster let's see the cyber truck think of how many more estimates you can
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make at your blue collar job with your truck if you can go zero to 60 destroying anything in your path get to
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the next job site real quick 2.9 seconds oh my god the triple motor
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cyber truck is at least quoted it's three right the riven is three flat it's absurdly fast yeah i mean they give
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us a horsepower number the rivien is quad motor 800 plus horsepower it's a fast truck yeah it's smaller too so it
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is small and nimble the cyber truck is gonna be big elon says nimble but like you know even with four wheel steering
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like it's a big truck yeah but yeah it can be nimble for its size but when you're that size
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yeah model three is like what four or something four point something they get into the three three yes with the
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performance models so this is faster than that twice the weight just as fast that's insane
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it'll be interesting ah seeing it on the street man these are dangerous that's what it comes down to i'm going
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to walk to work you start seeing them
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yeah all right well that's uh that's a little stainless steel unboxing and stainless steel truck how
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about that for a segway but we got to take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll talk 5g and stainless steel
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tubes in the sky all right we are back and dave is with us wow welcome back i'm
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always just showing up on the podcast somewhere sick yeah um no i'm not like anymore not sick
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perfect perfect and we're here to talk uh we're here to talk briefly for a little bit about this weird 5g headline i keep seeing yeah and
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then we're gonna do some q a but i i need to understand something and you you allegedly can explain this allegedly to
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me i would love to hear what's happening so i have a screenshot screenshotted good morning america tweet oh it says airline
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execs warn that new 5g cell service could cause catastrophic disruption to
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aviation industry um okay so i this this is actually
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really interesting because i had we had first-hand experience with this believe it or not uh we had the moto crane guys
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fly out here and their first flight was cancelled not due to weather but due to a 5g rollout yeah their flight was
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canceled so they actually had to come a day later because of that so this this is actually canceling flights but maybe
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you can explain what the deal is why this 5g is suddenly getting this new tag
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what's up okay so so specifically the spectrum of 5g that we're talking about
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right now is called c band okay um if you look at the entire radio wave spectrum you go from about 3 kilohertz
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to 300 gigahertz and that's a very wide spectrum right so in the past we've had 2g than 3g than
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4g and effectively what that's doing is that is shortening the wavelength uh
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of that wave which can have a higher power level right bandwidth etc higher
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bandwidth more data faster data but it goes shorter distances the
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shorter the wavelength that you have because it's higher power it's being absorbed by more things being blocked by more things yeah so two you know you
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think of am radio and it goes super far distances fm goes a little shorter and then you got 3d 4g that kind of stuff
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so when we go we talk about 5g right this has been a big topic in our field for like five
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years now they've been talking about 5g now they're already starting to talk about 6g and all this stuff we'll get there yeah so so as the mobile internet
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evolved and the internet evolved in general we decided we need better downlink better uplink because now we're sending like 100 megabyte
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files to each other just all this stuff uploading 8k videos yeah exactly we're sending like higher resolution stuff
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constantly so then we started rolling out okay we're going to roll out 5g now there's three sections of 5g right there
00:25:22
is low band 5g and there's millimeter wave 5g and then there is mid band or c band 5g so and we did our we did our 5g
00:25:30
explainer video a while ago where we sort of explored the pros and cons and sort of saw what low and mid band 5g
00:25:36
were doing and then try to get millimeter wave 5g we had to literally stand
00:25:41
like feet from the tower drive to rhode island right yeah well we have to go find a tower first yeah and you have to
00:25:47
have line of sight you had to have line of sight we went around the corner behind a glass wall and it cut out and like rain can allegedly block millimeter
00:25:53
wave so mid band is in between low band and millimeter yes so the big um reason why
00:26:00
i think a lot of people think that 5g is like a fraud or a lie is because when 5g first rolled out in
00:26:06
the us it was mostly low band 5g verizon has been very adamant about
00:26:12
pumping their ultra wide man thing and that's like a big reason why they call their phones uw at the end is because it
00:26:18
has millimeter wave capabilities but again you have to be like in front of this millimeter wave tower to get
00:26:24
that access so most of the general 5g that will show up on your phone that will say 5g is
00:26:29
actually low band now the thing about low band is that it's around the same frequency as 4g right so people see the
00:26:36
5g logo on their phone and then they do a speed test and they're like this is like the same speed if not sometimes
00:26:42
slower because sometimes it's in a lower spectrum and it's like it can be slower for a lot of people
00:26:48
so then people are like this is stupid what's the deal with all this infrastructure um
00:26:54
then you got mid band now mid bend is what a lot of people consider the goldilocks band for 5g
00:27:00
because that in between where it still goes decently far but it also has a lot higher speeds
00:27:07
so basically t-mobile was one of the only companies that really had a lot of big
00:27:12
band spectrum and it acquired a ton of demand spectrum when it uh acquired and merged with sprint
00:27:19
okay they had all this spectrum verizon and att didn't have that much so
00:27:24
up until now verizon and tnt being like 5g is great 5g is great uh specifically att remember
00:27:30
they would always do 5ge 5g evolution it was just like i still have that on my iphone which was low it was like low
00:27:36
band 5g that was about the same speed as 4g which is why people were so annoyed yeah um
00:27:42
so basically recently in in a lot of other countries c-band has been deployed for
00:27:48
like a year already or maybe even more than a year and it's already been deployed at airports which we'll talk about
00:27:54
soon but um there was this auction in the u.s with the fcc
00:27:59
that basically allowed this band to be sold to different carriers so up until
00:28:06
now that mid-band c-band area was being used for satellite tv
00:28:11
okay so that started in the 70s but recently they decided that they
00:28:17
could put the satellite tv band in a much more finite spectrum of c-band
00:28:22
because the technology got better that they didn't have as much like spectrum leakage so they could just say okay we
00:28:28
could put this in this really fine frequency right uh and at the same time people are cutting cords they maybe
00:28:35
don't have to service as much of the band anymore they don't have to have as much of the band so the fcc got that back and then they
00:28:41
auctioned it off and verizon and at t specifically spent a lot of money to acquire
00:28:48
a little bit of mid band because they don't really have they didn't really have like any mid band before this
00:28:53
so verizon spent 45.5 billion dollars billion billion to get 161 megahertz of
00:29:01
spectrum which is not even that much um and then at t bought 80 megahertz of spectrum for 28 billion dollars that's a
00:29:08
lot of billions yeah t-mobile spent like the least they only
00:29:13
spent 10 billion uh to flesh out spectrum they already had because they already have the most compared to
00:29:19
they could have just bought activision yeah that's right these are like similar to activision prices 10 instagrams
00:29:26
here is a chart and we'll throw this up uh i'll talk about it for the audio listeners and we'll throw it up for the
00:29:32
video watchers this is the average network speeds of the three carriers over
00:29:39
october 2020 to october 2021 and t-mobile yeah it's just sort of that
00:29:44
wow model s plaid taking off while everyone else's lesson left i've never thought i'd say this but t-mobile is
00:29:50
looking pretty good right yeah they're looking pretty good okay so their average speed has gone way up it's around 200 megabit um maybe a little
00:29:57
higher it's kind of hard to read these graphs they try to make these graphs pretty annoying and interesting so the drama
00:30:03
with the faa yeah uh is that they were concerned that
00:30:09
the mid-band spectrum specifically the c-band spectrum which operates in a very specific area
00:30:15
they were worried that that would mess with their altimeters um which is something that helps you land a plane altimeters yeah from what i
00:30:22
understand in my limited experience with altimeters yeah is it tells you how high you are yeah
00:30:27
which is pretty important really useful for a plane pretty important so obviously anything regarding public
00:30:33
safety in public health and airplanes is extremely highly vetted
00:30:38
and they just didn't want to they didn't want any possibility of this becoming a problem now the crazy thing is that this auction
00:30:44
happened very recently it happened in 2020 and then there had to have be time for
00:30:50
like the satellite internet company the satellite tv companies to clear out the spectrum but verizon actually paid an
00:30:56
extra eight billion dollars to get the satellite tv companies to clear out their spectrum faster
00:31:04
so there was just this incredibly fast ramp from we're not using this frequency
00:31:09
for widespread data usage and we are using this frequency and so the faa was like hold up
00:31:15
if you break all our altimeters our planes will not be safe anymore there's going to be this major issue
00:31:20
so they got in this huge spat they basically just hadn't tested all of their like ulti altimeter that's
00:31:27
a very hard word to say it is all of their altimeter multimeter equipment to make sure that it wasn't
00:31:33
going to interfere with their spectrum and cause noise and delays and stuff fair so they did agree to delay the
00:31:40
rollout of c-band by two weeks to give the faa time to test a lot of equipment and sort of certify it for different
00:31:46
planes um the problem was within that two weeks not everything got tested i think they said like 60 of planes and equipment had
00:31:54
been certified that it was not going to interfere okay but there were still like 40 percent that they hadn't certified
00:32:02
yet and the airlines are gonna be very careful sure with their equipment they also came to a conclusion that they're
00:32:09
just not going to put seaband towers within two miles of these airports
00:32:14
that's gonna be my next question because you mentioned like c-band mid band goes much further than millimeter wave but not as far as low band right i'm
00:32:20
wondering okay how far is that because if you have a tower right yeah on the airport like
00:32:26
obviously don't turn that one on for now but if it's five miles away from the airport is that far away sea bend goes
00:32:31
about half a mile okay i think that's that's what they're doing right there's like there are like 50 towers that they're
00:32:37
not like voluntarily not setting off or not rolling out right right yeah so there
00:32:43
were all these towers that they were going to put at airports because obviously people just want good data everywhere um but especially at the airport yeah
00:32:50
right isn't like the whole use case for really really high bandwidth 5g like oh i'm about to not have internet for a
00:32:56
while i need to download something instantly like the lady who's about to go down to the subway station and goes let me just download a movie boop and
00:33:02
then she goes down to the subway with like a freshly downloaded audiobook or a movie like when i'm at the airport i'm
00:33:08
downloading all my albums and all my podcasts that i want to listen to real quick so like the airport's the one place right i want the 5g to be good
00:33:14
that's always the use case that they use for millimeter wave 2 right it's just like look how fast you can download netflix shows um
00:33:21
yeah and honestly like the main use case for low band is just to take off network congestion from 4g
00:33:27
like that that's the main issue because if you've ever been to like a concert or a football game or something and it says
00:33:34
4g lte on your phone but you can't get any data through it's because the network is just so congested so by
00:33:40
opening up more spectrum even though it's about the same speed you can offload some of those users that have 5g
00:33:45
capabilities onto the 5g spectrum and that way the network's not as congested you have more like checkout lanes for
00:33:51
the customers right so but the problem was they marketed 5g as this revolutionary technology
00:33:57
and then low band was like this is just 4g again and millimeter wave was like one one millionth of the people on the
00:34:02
planet can use this and so everyone's like 5g is a lie uh but mid-man and specifically c-band is like a really
00:34:08
good area where you get that benefit of 500 to 600 megabit downloads verizon
00:34:15
advertises you can get up to one gigabit on it but again that's ideal scenarios and that's peak speeds which is
00:34:20
different from average speeds as we learned with the horsepower thing yep um
00:34:25
yeah so that's kind of the whole thing so planes got delayed planes had to be couple flights grounded for a little bit
00:34:31
so there's a couple you know types of planes or whatever that didn't finish getting tested and verified so out of an
00:34:36
abundance of caution they uh canceled some flights yeah um maybe not the uh quote uh what did they
00:34:43
say catastrophic disruption that planes did not fall out of the sky it is good morning america you can always count on
00:34:49
a little extra spice on the headline but okay that makes sense so i guess they had you on the today show they might not
00:34:54
have you on they did i i was on the today show i talked about blackberry another spicy one yeah it was a good
00:35:00
time uh no yeah that makes sense i guess yeah the question is uh and there might not be an answer to this but are they gonna
00:35:06
finish testing everything are we gonna find out oh c-band's totally fine altimeter's all work plans don't drop yeah so that's the funny thing is like
00:35:13
seaben has been rolled out in so many other countries australia korea china like 40 countries 40 countries for
00:35:20
like a year and they have no problems with this i think in a lot of those countries they also decided not to put
00:35:26
on new airports just in case okay so there's some legit concern yeah yeah i mean like every radio instrument uses
00:35:33
spectrum and if there's interference or leakage it could cause a problem like the altimeters that most of these planes
00:35:39
use do have backup spectrum that they use in case there is interference right and that is limited to just their stuff
00:35:46
i think it's like 220 megahertz or something is limited to exactly the altimeters so they should still work
00:35:52
but anything regarded by regarding public safety and especially airplanes people are just like hold the phone here
00:35:59
make sure it all works which makes sense all right yeah i'm glad we got the explainer yeah so thank you so if you
00:36:05
have a 5g phone um hopefully you'll start getting better speeds because uh verizon
00:36:11
and att flipped on their c-band switch on i think the 19th yeah it was like a week ago so about a week exactly
00:36:18
actually wednesday of last week so when they say turn your phone on airplane mode you really should turn
00:36:24
your phone on airplane mode yeah yeah it's do it and if you have 5g you're the reason all
00:36:30
the planes are crashing yeah i was actually looking that up yesterday i was like why does airplane mode exist and it's basically the same reason like
00:36:37
now um in android 12 when you turn on airplane mode it doesn't turn off your bluetooth or i think that's right it's either an android 12 or an ios 15. it's
00:36:44
been both yeah for a little bit because i always notice that because i always have my bluetooth headphones on and every time i want to stop like
00:36:49
downloading i turn on airplane mode and then i have to turn bluetooth back on yeah and uh probably about a year ago it
00:36:54
just stopped turning bluetooth off yeah you're good and it's funny because if you go to apple's website and their page
00:36:59
on like what is airplane mode they say this is a toggle that we use to comply with faa regulation which is kind of
00:37:06
like a backhanded way of saying like we have to do this yeah it just turns off your cellular radios pretty much yeah
00:37:12
and your gps cool yeah all right so well that's good to know i think our plans should be good i hope our plans are good
00:37:18
from now on yeah we did ask on twitter uh for you guys to ask a bunch of questions we asked what you wanted to
00:37:24
know it's been a little bit since we've done a q a yeah i've actually been thinking about doing more q a stuff again but we wanted to do some on
00:37:30
waveform mac heard me say all right and he is now staring at it ready are we about to what's going on
00:37:36
buddy yeah we're just gonna answer some questions from you guys from twitter so i'm gonna just open the tweet and find
00:37:42
some and we can just oh we have a we have a bunch listed already too i could just hop right in oh i was trying to give the impression that we're doing
00:37:48
this live just kidding i just opened twitter and you found a bunch of let's just check some tweets out you know let's just
00:37:55
check them out we didn't know what we've heard we like to put a little bit of effort in i haven't actually seen this yeah it's uh you know
00:38:01
they're live for me i have the first one and this is a question we get asked all the time so i think this is the best place to just put the nail in the coffin
00:38:08
um genuine question why do you guys wear headphones to hear yourself won't that be annoying i've been watching the
00:38:14
content been listening to the podcast since the beginning thank you so much so why do we wear headphones on the podcast yes
00:38:19
um basically to monitor our levels yeah and to hear what you guys hear to make sure
00:38:25
we're not too far away and start sounding like this or we're starting popping and making weird noises directly
00:38:31
into the mic we can sort of monitor ourselves and sorry for audio listeners that i had to download
00:38:36
i mean there's also other things like we we work in an area that has a lot of outside noise so sometimes rather than
00:38:42
continue on a really long like train of thought or have adam have to tell us to stop it's easier to hear that then and
00:38:49
just know like maybe i should give this a second and we'll wait for that noise to go also unless you're david who just
00:38:54
talked through two trucks driving by like you'll probably we all heard it's a little hectic
00:39:03
adam's desk is like a little over so it's easier for us then to communicate to each other also like just because you
00:39:09
hear it on the podcast we talk about a bunch of other stuff we have to go over the ads we're doing later we have to go over when we're doing ad breaks and
00:39:15
it just makes it easier for all of us to communicate while we're right here we can't all be at them and see the levels all the time
00:39:21
so yeah gosh all right i got another one here when do you listen to podcasts and how
00:39:27
have your listening habits evolved over the years mine is very specific i think this is a
00:39:33
really good question because my habits have changed so much because of covid or did at least for a little
00:39:38
while like i only listen to podcasts when i'm traveling over 20 miles per hour
00:39:45
meaning i'm either on a plane or driving i don't listen to podcasts any other time other than traveling what if you're
00:39:50
in traffic and you're going like five miles it just pauses
00:39:56
yeah it's gps linked do you not like uh if you're like riding a bike or anything or going for a run music or do you run
00:40:01
really fast i i i run i don't actually go for runs i bike because my knees are yeah
00:40:07
[Music] but uh i'm a music person during workouts yeah i think i really actually
00:40:12
i just watch tv when i bike yeah or that um yeah what about when you're cleaning you watch tv when you're
00:40:18
biking down the street yeah that seems dangerous i just like you just peer through all the neighbors windows it's
00:40:23
not very new you don't you don't follow through frame by frame [Laughter]
00:40:31
i think i i mostly only listen to my podcast yeah when i'm traveling like commuting or
00:40:36
like traveling even traveling on the plane i don't listen too much um so when kovitz stopped i
00:40:43
basically stopped listening to anything like completely stopped oh yeah even like video podcasts like i
00:40:49
listen to h3 podcast all the time and that's almost like more of a show because if it's all video but i still only ever really listen to
00:40:56
that and if there's a part that i like really wanted to watch i'll just make sure i hit the eclipse channel after and like watch that later but yeah i
00:41:04
i feel like it needs to be something that's going on for at least 20 minutes for me to get into enough of a podcast i
00:41:10
need to be in motion too to listen to podcasts but it's uh usually walking
00:41:16
that i listen to podcast and then now when i'm driving to work i usually listen to podcasts there's always like
00:41:21
daily morning podcasts and radio lab and all that stuff but yep um the hour commute to work is a good amount of time
00:41:27
to get through like a thick good podcast and then when i'm walking to my coffee
00:41:32
shop in the morning which is a five-minute walk i listen to five minutes get my coffee talk to everyone
00:41:38
there for an hour five minutes back to my car and then i start again so yes that is good don't be specific during
00:41:44
wafer not during waveforms during coved i would very specifically walk the dog for like one daily episode something like
00:41:51
that like a daily episode is usually like 20 minutes yeah it was like a perfect amount to go too slightly
00:41:56
depressed exactly it was that time too man it was a rough time you do got to
00:42:01
find the podcast that's the right length to not help spin it if you're halfway through a podcast when you finish your
00:42:06
walk it's like why did i even start well finished you either have to finish like half like an equal part through it so
00:42:11
like halfway through it or you have to finish it if you finish and there's like 10 minutes left that's that weird like
00:42:17
am i going to sit in my driveway now for 10 minutes or am i going to start this and then still have 70 percent of my
00:42:22
next commute with the only episode of any podcast i've ever done that for was
00:42:27
i've said this before the reply all episode uh just a two part long distance episode
00:42:32
got home sat in my driveway and just sat there riveted it was great shout out to reply all
00:42:38
right uh all right there's more questions yeah i have another one um sticking to the waveform podcast stuff
00:42:44
um how long does it usually take to release a waveform podcast episode uh i think i'll answer the first part
00:42:50
and adam do you want to answer the second part i just record this on my phone and then
00:42:56
we can stitch that in like a video of adam across the room the atom cast
00:43:03
adam cam um in terms of like writing it i usually take monday tuesday to write it and that's pretty much just like
00:43:10
actually all of us we have a waveform channel on slack everyone posts just like kind of random articles they've seen that are interested in that aren't
00:43:16
quite um topic gathering yeah like topic gathering that we probably won't make a full video on like and then all those go
00:43:23
into a doc usually monday tuesday i kind of put it all together grab the ads get them all in
00:43:29
documents wednesday all of us sit down and shoot and then yep today is wednesday and then
00:43:34
right when we leave from here adam is the rest of the stuff on that yeah so then after everyone shoots in
00:43:40
here i pull everything into the computer and i import it and the rest of wednesday i dedicate to cleaning audio
00:43:46
then i sync everything up thursday morning when i come in and i spend all day thursday chopping up the video making sure that
00:43:53
there's graphics to go and making sure that the title's good the thumbnail all that stuff ready to go for friday
00:43:59
because we publish at 4am eastern time um but then there's also the longer
00:44:04
episodes like david and i are working on one right now that could take months right you guys will reason yeah for a
00:44:11
long time yeah yeah we're done with interviews for that and i think just chopping it up and doing all that stuff
00:44:17
is going to take like another like jess interviews today is january 26th and we started that when we got back from
00:44:22
break yeah so it's been like three weeks of constantly emailing and interviewing people and then we have to actually
00:44:27
record it with you guys and then yeah it's gonna be a while yeah yeah we got the background projects i'd say most most episodes a
00:44:34
week pretty much start to finish of like total start to total finish and i mean we all work together but that's the main
00:44:40
gist of it and then some episodes when these guys are doing a ton of research a month or two yeah they could be really
00:44:46
long i'll just hop into the next one since i have it here what was mkbhd but i'll have all of us answer this favorite
00:44:53
video he's ever made or the most fun video you've ever made reviewing mac i think that's the same
00:44:59
answer for most of us that are bixby speaker we're talking about fun like we probably had that was fun to make because we knew
00:45:05
the result we wanted in mind but as far as fun during a shoot nothing stops shooting mac for an entire day and mac
00:45:12
came out exactly how we wanted it to yeah also it like just was so good yeah easy i have one for david actually
00:45:18
oh uh how has your pixel 6 experience gotten any better after the january
00:45:24
update yeah i have a very brief answer because i've used pixel six a little bit since i got the update yeah only for a
00:45:29
day yeah um less bugs total still bugs yeah i had an entire system ui crash the
00:45:35
day after the update it's not it's not fixed but it's yeah it's better i used it for two days after the update okay
00:45:43
not a lot a lot of the bugs that were like i literally switched off of the pixel 6 pro because i had so many bugs
00:45:49
like i tried to keep on it but over time it just got more and more and more buggy
00:45:55
to the point where i like couldn't use it anymore and i think the january update came out like a week
00:46:00
after i switched off of it switched back to it for like two to three days and it felt like a majority
00:46:06
of the like i can't use this phone anymore bugs sort of went away um but there are still just random
00:46:13
issues like like my uh all my widgets that i use in material you every time i swipe back to the home
00:46:19
screen they're just not there and then three seconds later they load in or like dump from ram every time every time i go
00:46:25
home that's like not an issue that happens on most phones yeah it's like a very basic thing like my biggest my
00:46:30
biggest bug which was frame rate drops did seem to fix so i had my animation back set to
00:46:37
regular speed i was dropping to like basically 60 hertz all the time on the 6 pro i didn't want to force 120 hertz all
00:46:43
the time because then your battery life just dumps but after the update seems like that part is fine it still has some
00:46:48
occasional hiccups and drops but at least it's not 60 all the time yeah adam is using the regular pixel six and he
00:46:55
said that he like just can't open certain apps sometimes they just won't open yeah instagram just keeps crashing
00:47:01
on me twitter keeps crashing on but that's on several phones yeah twitter has been crashing on me for
00:47:06
years that's a twitter issue evergreen i have one that i i like kind of for
00:47:11
marquez but i also like i think it's a cool question what are your thoughts on spending more purely for aesthetic
00:47:17
purposes um example buying an ipad pro when an air would be totally fine but you just prefer the squared off camera
00:47:23
bump something like that oh interesting and i know you've done this before you've definitely spent more
00:47:28
money specifically because and i think we all have probably it's interesting because a lot of times the the the
00:47:35
bettered thing is also better looking true so it will usually be one of the bullet
00:47:40
points that makes me spend more like if we use the ipad example i agree that the ipad pro looks better but i also like
00:47:46
really like the 120hz display um so there's things yeah i don't know if i would ever if if
00:47:53
the only difference was aesthetics it would really just be like how much likes are we talking here right because the ipad pro is uh nine hundred dollars a
00:48:00
thousand dollars and the ipad air is not anywhere near that yeah i wouldn't spend you're basically getting 120 hertz and
00:48:06
that's kind of it yeah i would if it was just aesthetics that's tough so i think i guess it's
00:48:11
more like if this would be fine for you and you are getting some extra things but you mostly you're like that looks so much
00:48:18
better i i kind of see it as like whenever i'm making a big purchasing decision it's like
00:48:25
i'm willing to spend all this money and i've done a ton of research on it and do i think just because that thing
00:48:32
looks better like when i get this thing i still spend because an ipad air is still expensive like it's still a big
00:48:38
purchase yeah are you going to get that and then just constantly wish you had the other thing and like in that sense i
00:48:44
think i'd rather spend the extra money so i'm not disappointed with the thing i still spend a ton of money on i think
00:48:49
that a lot of people sort of try to pretend that the aesthetics of a device has nothing to do with the functionality
00:48:56
or the like how much you like it um but like they wouldn't make phones
00:49:02
glass if they didn't want it to be aesthetic they wouldn't wanna they wouldn't like make the colors a big deal people the
00:49:09
amount that i go on twitter and i see people just being like that color is so hot definitely gonna cop it's like the
00:49:15
color is important to people which is sort of ironic considering they put cases on like everything that's also
00:49:21
funny um but if i was buying a product like because i'm going to use it every day
00:49:27
kind of like you had mentioned andrew like you have to weigh over x period of time what's the amount
00:49:33
of money i'm willing to spend just to be like i like how this looks more and i'm not wishing that i got the other one yeah if
00:49:39
you're wishing you had the other thing you're gonna have a bad experience with that so like it's part of your overall experience whether or not you want to
00:49:44
admit it or not it doesn't really matter with the chipset and the ram like that's part of the experience too i have many thoughts just come to my head one of
00:49:51
them was it really depends on the product like um yeah on what that is like if it's a car people spend more on
00:49:56
aesthetics all the time oh yeah just because you can you can just add an option that looks cool whatever um the other thing is uh i think because we're
00:50:03
nerds and we like really priding ourselves on like the best tech and like using the most functional thing we try to like jade ourselves into thinking
00:50:10
like we're not getting it because it's hot looking but like some phones just look really good and we're like very happy that it's also a good phone
00:50:16
and also i just thought of the opposite thing which is i am currently using the apple watch series 7 which doesn't come
00:50:23
in black it's dark blue but the 15 faster charging is so damn useful for me
00:50:29
that i i just i just use it now i i prefer the previous watch with less curved screens
00:50:35
and with the actual black finish but i use the one that i don't like aesthetically as much because it's more functional i don't hate it but yeah i it
00:50:43
would be fun to find a more perfect example of this so we could really see what that price cutoff is of like what
00:50:48
am i willing to like if the s21 ultra you could get it in did they make the
00:50:54
purple and gold ultra no no just say they did because i know you don't love that right um
00:51:01
and for two hundred dollars more you could get the matte black version 200 200 i mean it's like a thousand dollar phone
00:51:08
already so yeah you know in a world where i'm not testing new phones every week or whatever yeah and i'm like yeah
00:51:13
that's you're making it to this phone for the next two years i'd spend that yeah like they they do work that into the pricing though
00:51:20
right like the um the huawei mate flip or
00:51:25
p50 pocket the huawei p50 pocket yeah has a gold color version that is called gold
00:51:31
special edition or something like that costs more costs quite a bit more um does it have any extra ram or anything
00:51:38
do they even mention that i don't know i was i was thinking there's no way i think it's at least two hundred dollars more yeah and i was like i think it is
00:51:43
200 there's got to be something else to it other than just the color and i have not confirmed that yet one it might not
00:51:49
but two a lot of the time manufacturers will make something a nicer color and maybe put in like
00:51:54
two extra gigs of ram because then people want it but they can justify it by saying
00:52:01
i get more ram even if that ram is not worth two hundred dollars yeah yeah that's kind of a ski yeah you get the
00:52:06
you get the super ultra deluxe special edition which looks way hotter and then has yeah a little bit better a
00:52:12
little bit more ram it's better so that's why i got it it's easier for people to justify to other
00:52:18
people that they got something for functional purposes then they got it just for aesthetic purposes that's why
00:52:23
that's a really interesting question yeah i like that um i had an interesting one that said question for everyone at
00:52:28
the studio one how do you guys maintain work-life balance and two what is the most used app on
00:52:35
your phones other than social media apps i think one thing that's kind of interesting and probably similar for all
00:52:41
of us is that um we love this stuff and like this is what me and my friends talk about already
00:52:48
so a funny thing is like at work it doesn't really feel like work
00:52:53
obviously we are producing a good that is consumed by people so we are working but it doesn't feel like work in the
00:53:00
same way that like previous jobs that i like really didn't care for oh yeah felt like work um so that's a big thing obviously there
00:53:07
are there are some things where like i should probably should exercise i probably should socialize um so that's
00:53:13
something that i just have to like make sure that i do but i'm a very social person signed up doing that anyway
00:53:18
uh i would say my most used app is probably pocket casts just because i listen to so many podcasts all the time
00:53:25
okay that's fair so anyway do you listen to more podcasts and music i listen to music when i'm running
00:53:31
because i if i'm listening to something that interests me my mind is more active than my limbs and
00:53:39
my limbs will stop and i won't recognize it you'll just start walking just imagining you just like pausing in the sidewalk in there for like 10 minutes
00:53:46
you're on a treadmill while listening to a podcast because my legs stopped moving that is very valid yeah that's hilarious
00:53:53
i listen to a lot of music uh like when i'm running in sometimes in the car and sometimes at home when i'm like cleaning my room or something but otherwise
00:54:00
podcast my ratio like flipped super hard i was like i had like 80 000 minutes a year on spotify and then i listed more
00:54:06
and more podcasts and i've gone down in music every year my spotify wrapped is like a third of what i use mine honestly does this sometimes i'm like
00:54:12
i'm really just feeling music for a long time and then sometimes it's just like tons of podcasts yeah i'm in a podcast
00:54:18
stage right now almost no music but then all like but then it like i listen to the same music over and over i don't discover a
00:54:25
lot of new music so i think that's why it does that and then i'll just be like oh i love this song and then i'll listen to that playlist i made it like i won't
00:54:31
listen to what was your rapture i was two percent taylor claire was one so she beat me
00:54:39
[Laughter]
00:54:46
to answer the question i feel like you know work-life balance for me is is imac is um
00:54:54
is main it doesn't exist really uh i just cause i mean it's the internet is your yeah yeah i have my i have my
00:55:01
left brain right brain so i because i care about both very much i like i find
00:55:06
the time uh i used to also have class every day so it really doesn't feel like as much of a challenge these days to
00:55:13
balance left brain right brain because i don't have to go to class most used app tick tick it's my task
00:55:19
managing app i would be dead or gone without it and calendar so that's me
00:55:25
yeah i work life i mean it's like david said like working here is way
00:55:30
more fun than any previous job i had i definitely had that what do they call it it's like um
00:55:36
shitty job well yes i had a job that i didn't love which meant every night when i would get
00:55:42
home i would stay up to like three o'clock in the morning because i was just like i felt like my day was wasted and i would like you know i would want
00:55:48
to do things yeah i would be so scared like worried to go to sleep because i felt like i didn't accomplish anything that day even if it was just like
00:55:54
relaxing or playing video games or something like that where at this job i feel so much more like i did something i did something i
00:56:00
enjoyed during the day and i can go home and like eat dinner and go to bed if i want to and never have an issue with that um and then other than that it's
00:56:07
just like making sure i'm scheduling things correctly so my weekend isn't just being
00:56:12
lazy the entire time like i'm getting things done that i want i'm going climbing going to see my in-laws going to hang out with friends getting stuff
00:56:19
done around the house all that it's just making sure plan it like a day ahead and you'll be okay if you sit or
00:56:25
sit around all day you'll waste and then you'll be dreading going to work again yeah it's the app that i use that's not
00:56:31
social media tick tock social media right even though i don't post on it at all
00:56:36
yeah i know man i'm
00:56:41
just really addicted to social media apparently you can check your uh
00:56:47
your digital well-being yeah that would be bad for me it's mostly social media i mean
00:56:53
what is it youtube twitter instagram i mean gmail isn't social media but it's social yeah so it's like
00:56:59
i mean okay neither of you guys have ever heard of it it's called the gunk sap it's it's very local to where i am it's
00:57:05
pretty much when you do outdoor climbing you be you have to buy guidebooks to know what the climbs are outside because
00:57:11
yeah that's not social media do you want to look at this app this app is not social media is it wait so don't if it's
00:57:18
not twitter too this is literally focused this is literally a book in an app pretty much oh you're not these aren't
00:57:24
contributed by other users nope this is a person who wrote all trails
00:57:29
yes what's yes because that's other people's it's social because a lot of people are trying to find the right
00:57:35
thing and then the media is the reviews of the trailer people tell me that social media with a title like that
00:57:40
that's not social media this is not social media so pretty much what it does is like when
00:57:46
i go outdoor climbing i pick an area and that area then on this people have made
00:57:51
climbs out of things so you can look at what the rocket looks like so you can find it and then you can see what the
00:57:56
climb is that might be social media this is garbage it might be it is are your kids into rock climbing apps careful
00:58:03
they might be into social media you know i really don't know then other than that
00:58:09
the next is like rook coffee where i order my coffee that's fair yeah there we go yeah there's definitely social media inside
00:58:15
of it there's like a twitter client um maybe find one good one to end i have a
00:58:21
perfect ending okay i think okay um congrats on the 100th episode what's one thing that waveform wants to achieve
00:58:26
before the 200th episode i think this is a good one to end up let's all give something yeah i know what i want to do
00:58:33
more of on waveform which is have guests on and you know we have this podcast studio and we already know we can have
00:58:39
guests like call into the show it's even better if they show up here in person but generally what makes a
00:58:44
podcast interesting is number one no matter what you think of joe rogan's
00:58:49
of joe rogan like having experts on and smart people on to talk about something that they know a lot more than you about
00:58:55
and learning in real time that is awesome i want to do that more and just diversity of thought in general i think
00:59:00
we can have like creators on i think we can have people on other social networks i think we can have people who have very different jobs that have a lot to talk
00:59:06
about that would be really fun so i wanna have more guests we're already talking to two right now so that's coming soon it's a good start to the
00:59:12
year yeah yeah you me oh well you know how you mentioned earlier that you sat in your
00:59:17
car and you listened to that reply all episode until it's done i think a lot of the best podcasts or like the most
00:59:24
talked about podcasts have either one or two or three episodes that are
00:59:29
just like legendary like yeah um what was it serial
00:59:34
it was kind of the that was a whole podcast and it was a whole season but it was a it was a podcast that sort of like
00:59:39
revolutionized podcasting that's what i thought about what i thought of like sitting in your driveway i think i did it for every episode yeah yeah and so
00:59:46
like a lot of podcasts will have one or two or three episodes that just everyone knows about because it's so good that
00:59:52
people are like holy crap there was also a reply episode about like the case of the missing song or something that was a
00:59:58
good one sounds everyone just shared that around the internet for like two weeks and i think
01:00:04
that sort of exemplifies how certain episodes and the quality of storytelling can transcend
01:00:11
people knowing about something already it goes viral not because of some like exterior reason because one person was
01:00:17
like really like this episode and then everyone look watches it like i know that you have mentioned before you're very glad that you never really had a
01:00:23
video go viral to grow because that's how you get a ton of subscribers that will never watch again
01:00:29
um and i totally agree with that i want i want us to produce something that
01:00:35
reaches an audience that is not our general audience that everybody can connect with yeah yeah so that's awesome
01:00:42
that would be something i think it would be cool to do yeah i see that happening yeah i have a
01:00:47
lot of faith in that i think that's a good place to end it
01:00:52
mac anything to say wait i don't get to say anything
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[Laughter] my thing was gonna also be guests which
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is kind of lame but i do i do like what you're saying like i would like to bring in guests that have a very faint tech
01:01:15
aspect to them that we can just relate to and then we can open up a whole nother category to other people and be
01:01:22
something that helps broaden other people's horizons and we get to learn during the the experience yeah it's my
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favorite yeah we'll do it i'm committing to it right now boom thank you guys for joining us on the
01:01:34
ride to this point so far 100 episodes is not bad it's not bad we got a little bit of uh hardware on the table to show
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for it but in case you haven't already this is a pretty good time to subscribe
01:01:44
because uh you know more plaques but also more episodes and the whole like enjoying what you listen to thing can
01:01:50
happen but we're really only in it for the plaques so we're gonna have to go to a dentist pretty soon if we can keep getting more black
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that's the goal right i'm muting david and with that you can cut that with that
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thanks for listening to episode 100 catch you guys next time uh all right
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waveform was produced by adam molina we are partnered with vox media and our introductory music was created by vayne
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