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[Music] what's going on people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the
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waveform podcast we're your hosts i'm marquez and i'm andrew and uh we've got what are we doing basically a lightning
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round day yeah i have just it's been like there's been a lot of stuff in tech news but not like a bunch of big stories so i just basically wrote down i think i have like
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five or six interesting titles we're going to blurt them out we're just going to talk about them really quick you're with us and
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that's going to be the episode pretty much and um as we promised we are doing wait for trivia to the end
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we are not going to do it at the ad break because we are kind of going to do the season one trivia wrap-up this week
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um a lot of points behind so we're going to try and see if i can claw my way back
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into the uh i heard we're going to have some sort of a a mathematical way of it being exciting
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maybe you can get i have not heard that so it might be a thing i need to start paying attention in the season
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yours everywhere cool um i am gonna before we get into that studio channel we made a new series we're calling match cut which is just kind of like
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competition style videos at the studio yeah and we did one with a contest of vin david and brandon having to create the best top-down shot
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kind of chop style i i loved it they're all competing against each other it's funny because they take like real effort
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to like win and so i feel like we'll have like little lulls in the year where there's not too much tech coming out and
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then boom we'll we'll go office olympics on and just make a competition out of it so this is a fun one
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it was a pretty classic who can make the best top down yeah and i'll just leave it at that just go watch it it's a fun
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video and if you have suggestions for other other versions of match cut leave your your comments there's already some
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really good suggestions perfect that i'm pumped for perfect okay let me so do you want me i'll just read out headlines
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yeah and then you rip off it okay we'll do it cool let's um just start really quick with the we got the
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some of the specs for the nothing phone and i saw this still haven't seen a price but they're taking pre-orders
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which i think is hilarious yeah so we now know that it's a snapdragon 778 g and that's the chip that's inside so again we were i guess we were kind of talking about this a little bit last week where it was like how is this phone
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gonna differentiate itself against all the other phones it's a it's a startup company
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and i think we saw these lights and the transparent design and it was pretty clear that that's going to be how it differentiates itself rather than the previous carl pay
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playbook which is we're going to appeal to enthusiasts and give it the full on like
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best specs for the money treatment yeah this is definitely not that the seven series chip is fine but it's not going
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to be like one of those like wow i want this one because of the specs yeah you're not maxing out this phone
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like you said like the old one was kind of like there you were the sleeper phone you had all the specs you had all the power from it and then you were making a
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couple sacrifices on the reminds me it reminds me of that meme where i think it's usually used about nfts but it's
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like a guy in the corner of a party like nobody here knows that i have 18 gigs of ram on my phone but i do it's
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one of those things i could see the oneplus phones but uh with the nothing phone it'll just be right in your face it'll flash a flash right in your face
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yeah it'll see everybody knows that i have the phone that lights up on the back um yeah i think
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i kind of and i think knowing this solidified my my thought process on it a little more
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which was this feels like it's kind of going similar to their headphones i call it like the beats route which is like i am
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a very fun interesting to look at phone my design is really cool like holding this phone
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is cool and i'm going to now it looks like the sacrifices are going to be made on the performance side which okay is
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still good performance but like beats aren't going to compare to like the sony in terms of sound quality but
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they're going to like look cooler than the sony i was going to ask are you saying are you going with like 2009 beats or like 2019 beats
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2009 beats were like they're going to be more expensive and they're going to be flashy and they're going to spend money on ads but they're going to sound
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legitimately crazy if you actually want like good quality like they they just have huge bass they don't sound good
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where like in 2019 they sound fine but they're clearly not the focus still uh that newer newer age
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like this is going to be a fine phone and the majority of people who use you are going to be happy with it but like
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the the focus is the design the focus that phone exactly it's pretty hard okay yeah so we
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know about it i think they had something like 200 000 people yeah pre-orders yes
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phone and they all paid 25 non-refundable to get in line non-refundable to me is interesting i do not know how i feel about that i don't know how they landed on 25 but
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non-refundable i'm not a big fan of but it's only it's only 25. this is the thing if they're like non-refundable fifty dollars i'd be like that's a lot that's too much money if they said non-refundable five dollars i'd be like
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that's no money why would you even say non-refundable just make it refundable people just get in line for five bucks but non-refundable 25 feels like
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fundraising it's just right in that i don't i don't like it and it's like i do agree with you 25 doesn't seem that
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bad but like let's compare it to pre-ordering like cyber truck was a hundred dollars right hundred dollars
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refundable but a hundred dollars compared to the let's assume 50 000 plus price tag on it so it's a very small market the ratio between the pre-orders i feel like if you make the comparison
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the ratio has to be mentioned there and like a hundred dollars for a car is not that bad of a and it's refundable yeah
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so if we just guesstimate the price of the phone that would be kind of like the equivalent of paying like several thousand dollars to pre-order a
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cyber trade and it's non-refundable so and you don't know the specs of the cyber truck and you don't know the final
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price of the cyber truck and the credit will go there if you buy it but you'll have to wait in line for it
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and you'll won't know what it is so you better hope that's a really good point i don't know it's a it's a very
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interesting and unfortunately not very surprising um way they're handling it so yeah i can't but 200 000 pre-orders
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that's like 5 million it's a lot of people there you go okay great start for nothing i guess yeah um
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let's go into why we're on the topic of phone let's just check out the xiaomi me 12 s ultra oh this one we are right here
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dubbing this the minion phone this is uh yeah okay so video viewers i'm holding it audio listeners just picture a phone
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where you've seen like the iphone has like a triple camera array at the top with the
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pros and it's up in the corner and then you've seen like some that have an even bigger like triple camera array imagine
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just one gigantic like cyclops eye in the middle of the top of the phone that's what this is it kind of looks like a minion if you squint and it was wearing overalls a matte black
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everything matte black well it's like a it's like a leather red fake leather back but this is the phone i i've had a
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lot of you know what i have a hot take about this phone okay i'm still testing it and we're still working on what we'll
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turn into our video about it okay but overall solid phone right very high-end specs
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this is the ultra from xiaomi so you remember the the xiaomi i think it was the 11 ultra last year which had the
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screen on the back and the whole crazy back of the phone things this is their high-end phone 6.7
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inch 120 hertz ltpo oled snapdragon 8 plus gen 1 high-end chip ip68 water resistance 4 860 milliamp hour battery chargers at 67 watts wireless chargers at 50 reverse
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wireless charges at 10 watts it's got all the features um but the cameras are the main
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like the clear thing and from the two and a half days that i've used it this this smartphone is the hot take is
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capable of the best smartphone photos of any camera any smartphone that's not where i thought you were going and i'm
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here for it it's just a couple of things i've noticed and i'll show you some of these too as i'm talking about i mean
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can we talk about the tweet that you posted actually where you were you know we're giving it away here
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but you tweeted uh two photos it's kind of like under a bridge on a field at night time with a big stadium
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light on um one is from the galaxy s22 ultra and one you just posted a mystery contender well spoiler alert
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it is the minion phone yep and a lot of people are guessing a lot of different things in here uh to be honest
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i like the 12s photo better it is the one on the right it is a little bit brighter a
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little bit sorry a little more vibrant and saturated it definitely handles the exposure way better and has way less
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noise and way better highlight protection yeah well yeah the lights is where is the clear difference here like
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one is just a ball of light and the other is like you can actually see all the individual lights yeah it is more
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vibrant i would like to see this is a fairly dull landscape in terms of colors so
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while it's vibrant of that they're all dull already so that just makes it look nice i think warm and and
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the graffiti looks really nice and all the the stone looks nice but i'm a fan of it there's a i'm going
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to show you some pictures but generally here's why i'm such a big fan of this camera and like a phone that looks like this it
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better have a good camera right you pull this out at a party or something yeah this is this is for the camera uh
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dynamic range and fine detail okay those are the two things that this phone does really really well sometimes
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it over does the hdr but in general dynamic range and fine detail the leica color thing you know it's okay i'm not
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always a fan of like a color but they do have the ability to toggle between like a natural color and like a
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vivid color or something like that okay i've left i've kind of gone back and forth but i've taken more with vivid
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than natural really but but really here it actually i'm gonna add a third thing okay now that i'm rambling so it's dynamic range it is fine detail and it is shutter
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speed okay all those things combined so i take pictures of fast moving objects and they freeze look at this photo i just took
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with the 5x lens that is really good it's shooting with sunlight behind the subject that is a really nice photo really good fine detail and
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dynamic range and i don't even think twice about if the subject's moving or not it's going to freeze it no matter what which is awesome if you're taking
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pictures of like moving dogs we took a lot of pictures of a dog your kids your kids or that's a zoo
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probably the number one thing people take pictures on with smartphones so it does great with that and then you
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take photos like directly into the sun just just overall i'm i'm very impressed with a lot of these pictures you remember zuri sprinting around earlier the dog was just a blur before didn't
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ever stop moving but lots of pictures with the shallow depth of field of just the dog
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seemingly frozen in place here's one i took last night feel free to zoom in on the depth of field on the cleats versus
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the ground behind it that doesn't yeah that's a smartphone photo this looks fantastic and not just
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that but there's also like reflections in the water that's on the ground and and it handles all that really nicely in
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the back yeah and like your cleats have a lot of detail on them which it's nailing you can see like the dirt and all the
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different and the laces and the flyknit and i take a picture like that on pretty much every phone i test because i
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probably have practice that week of whatever week i'm testing a phone and in the gravel too yeah i was just very
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impressed gravel is a great so like for audio listeners this is a picture of marquez sitting down on the ground with his feet in front of him and then just kind of the field he's on asphalt then there's
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grass and there's people in the grass and there's a skyline in the background but on the asphalt you can see the just
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roll off of the focus robot yeah it's so nice yeah yeah and it rolls off into like a puddle
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it's so good so listen i i still have some more testing to do when working on the video there are some quirks and
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weird things about it that i still don't like like it is a huge sensor and it still fringes when you get really close to subjects it still loves to try to switch to the ultra wide macro when
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you get even closer to a subject i'm going to show you one more picture of that on the roof i can tell you real quick why you're pulling this up one
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thing i very much dislike about it and the fake leather back is terrible don't do this on a smartphone i feel like the fake leather back is what a lot of cheaper phones do to try and feel
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more premium and this makes it feel like a cheaper phone even though this is a it's not a good fake leather it's not a
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good figure there are some good fake leathers i have yet to feel that there are some bats that i can remember this
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is bad i don't like it at all you know the roof of this building yeah super windy
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and you know those plants up on the roof that just like way back and forth in the wind frozen in time
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shallow depth of field just straight like captured it didn't even think twice the thing was blowing
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back and forth in and out of it was afraid and it happened to get in the middle of the frame and nailed that shot
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dynamic range is on point no noise like it is it has the highest ceiling of any smartphone camera i've ever used i think that's that's my hot tape all right early contender for some awards in the
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future it's really good i'm gonna it's gonna be hard to beat that from what i've seen um but yeah
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you heard the minion name here first i think we're gonna try to do a minion thumbnail for this of course obviously
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and i also heard you're wearing overalls for the review well we'll see we'll see you heard it here first yellow heard it
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here first uh yeah no it's a high-end phone yeah well i think everything else we'll go
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over in the video which you should see pretty shortly yeah yeah hopefully next week maybe no pressure i'll try to have
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it out by the way let's put the pressure on everyone tweet adam nonstop that's what he loves that's that's the best way
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is my favorite my favorite of the whole episode i'm just gonna read the headline then we can go from there the headline
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is gm is reportedly only making about 12 hummer evs per day okay um interesting that's rough that's rough okay so in the
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beginning so we've heard uh whenever we talk about manufacturing you have to like ramp up manufacturing right
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so you start at a low number and then you ramp up to high so they're not going to be making 12 a day
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forever they're going to start at 6 a day then 12 a day then 50 a day then 100 than um so at this point right now they're at 12 a day it it might take a while if they only do
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20 days do you want me to like give the reason for it first do you want to dunk on them no is that a reason yeah pretty
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much it's that right now they have to rely on all their batteries from lg while their battery plants are being built which are should be coming up
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pretty soon and obviously they should be producing far more but like if we want to just pretend like let's just stick on the 12
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number for comparison um rivian's making about 30 to 40 a day ev's a day so i'm assuming that's just r1t though because r1s i don't think is in production yet we were just trying to figure that out
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this morning because we're seeing videos of it the reviews of the r1t of the r1s just went live which leads me to believe
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you you are going to start seeing them on the right do you think so but i think it's still mostly r1t by volume okay um
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and the ford i don't know if they're just like meaning here but they are making 150
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f-150 lightnings a day which i mean i think we all kind of suffered doing that because the f-150 is pretty much an
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already built truck where the hummer eevee is the hummer ev the gargantuan whatever
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that they is not already a body on something um okay but i just like found some other oh also if they were to continue shipping at 12 a day it would take 17 and a half years
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to deliver to everybody on the waitlist yeah they gotta ramp it up that's fantastic by the way 150 f-150 lightnings doesn't sound like that much either it doesn't sound like that much
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but they also just started delivering like a month ago right right so they're going to ramp up they'll probably aim
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for 300 a day then a thousand i believe so uh we talked about it a few weeks ago
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but i think batteries are also a limiting factor there um and they're opening a new plant in georgia okay i
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believe i think batteries are going to be the thing that's going to uh limit pretty much everybody for a
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while uh but guys are hard to make exactly um but in this article there's just a couple
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one other fun fact that i found about the hummer ev which i think has been out for a long time but i don't know how i
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missed it but the hummer ev battery just the battery weighs as much as a honda civic
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just the battery weighs as much as i'm specific how big is that isn't the hummer if you have like a i guess it is
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massive but isn't it like a hundred and eighty kilowatt hour battery or something funny enough when i was looking i didn't
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see the exact specs i do know it's 2 923 pounds wow for just the battery that's more that's heavier than some entire sports cars like the lightest sports cars are about 2900 to 3000
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pounds that's awesome the whole so the whole hummer ev is 9 000 pounds um for reference the f-150 lightning's 6 500 pounds so if you took the battery out of the hummery v you would almost it would
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weigh a little bit less than an f-150 lightning the hummer is basically a small tank
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again that thing is this is going to be on the roads with people nine thousand pounds i guess okay on one hand what's the difference between a six thousand pound truck hurtling at you and a nine
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thousand pound truck curling at you but on the other hand brakes that's a lot of mass to be thrown around wow and that thing accelerates too like a normal ev it accelerates it's fast
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pretty quickly nine thousand pounds yeah so uh hummery v i'll be okay if it stays at 12 a day because i do if i'm being honest i'm scared to be on the road with them i've
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said that many times what else weighs 9 000 pounds that's a good question can you think of something off your head and i'll check
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fact-checking uh okay something that weighs 9 000 pounds a bison fully grown bison seems like it might be more i think it's less really oh no a male adult 1 000 to
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2 200 pounds damn bison bison's only a thousand pounds a small one no they can get up to
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200 pounds adult yak i should google adult yak weight only 1200 pounds all right that was pretty off it's about eight yaks it's eight yeah in case you're wondering
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yeah now i'm i'm expecting to see all these slowly ramp up i think they're all gonna have low volume numbers as
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as you mentioned it's hard to make cars right now not only just the batteries but like the computers the chips inside
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the parts the pieces the materials so yeah these are the companies that we expect to be good at ramping up scale ford gm they know how to make cars yeah rivian
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tesla the startups we have to see what they end up doing because they have to prove that i guess tesla's proven
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toughness tesla's proven it rivien has a lot to prove and then like i guess on the other hand like we've said before is
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like 4g m has to prove the right now the battery ramp up is where they have to prove it because like their production
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factories know what they're doing their assembly lines know what they're doing the gigafactory was a real good idea
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remember when it was in a tent yes still blows my mind that's when we shot that interview with elon is we did the model 3 and model y or sorry they were doing model s on model x in the factory
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and they were cranking out three and y from a tent next door that was a i like go outside today and
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then imagine people working in a tent doing that yeah i mean i guess there's a lot of robots but like
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air conditioning it's hot yeah yeah okay next thing on our list i have tesla scans for potholes and can adjust vehicle suspension to avoid damage so this is a potential update coming up and
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i'm gonna read one of the notes really quickly because i'm having a hard time figuring out what it does even though
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that sounds like really obvious right scans for potholes adjust suspension to avoid damage um so release notes the update will be
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uh might have to just say 20 20 22. it's a new software version oh okay okay thank you um and it says we'll be able to scan ahead for potholes and adjust the suspension according to rough
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roads um but it does also say this adjustment may occur at various locations subject to availability as the
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vehicle downloads rough road map data generated by tesla cars so i can't tell if this is
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scanning and when it sees a pothole adjust or if it is always scanning sending data back
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to tesla calling a road or like putting a road as a rough road in tesla's data so now when
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any tesla goes over it the suspension just changes the second one okay so right now
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the error suspension in a model s and model x they can adjust in real time but it's it's like a one or two second thing
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that's happening so if you come up on a pothole at highway speed it's not like you can just see it and adjust that's not happening but
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as of right now there are a couple things that the cars already do i remember a couple years ago saying this
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in a video and it really blew people's minds where if i have a steep driveway and i pull up to my driveway and i go
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you know what i'd like to raise a suspension to not like scrape i raise a suspension pull in the driveway
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every time the car gets back to that gps location it goes ah last time you were here you raised the suspension and it does it again automatically and so it starts doing that and there are
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parts of the highway that i notice where i'm driving where i don't even ask it to but i see a little message saying
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raising the suspension for comfort and it's a rougher section of the road so i believe it's already doing a rough
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something like this where cars are driving around all the time and they're collecting tons of suspension data and
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you can see that live data like you go over a bunch of potholes in a row like you can see it on the on the diagram in the car and so yeah it will decide to
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raise and lower the suspension when that happens so i suspect for all of the cars in the fleet now
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there's data all over the world for rough roads i don't know if it's visually scanning for actual potholes
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like i think it is scanning for potholes and sending that data back and then in the
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future when that road becomes that is when it'll adjust the suspension so it i like this phrase ah the phrase
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scanning for potholes implies visual but it could easily be scanning for potholes with the suspension data it could be
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doing it a bunch of different ways when i read that headline though i imagine like you know like laser beams going across
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the road and being like that's what they want like fix yourself really quick um it does say
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that there was some rumor that there may be a 3d mapping with obstacle avoidance
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in the future which would be more rather than change its suspension but get you away from a pothole if you miss it okay
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those ones sneak up on you um i think overall this is cool maybe not as cool as the headline makes it sound but also if at any point that suspension change can help you not
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get a flat tire or something like once i think it's super worth it kearney's the worst if tesla wants to full-blown test
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this if you wanted to drive it earlier we got a road yeah yeah trust me actually you might be doing a ton of
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data yeah back to that sent plenty of information to the fleet exactly for sure this is the kind of cool stuff that
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like this is why tesla's going to be so far ahead because the amount of things they
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have scanning right now and the information they're gaining is going to be more than everyone else yeah information
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systems yeah information wars do you think they'll ever license it and sell it no
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no i think that would be the smart move i don't think they're even able well in a in a privacy-focused world
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they can't even see the data it's just the cars working with the data true so that's what they want you to think i
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want you to believe that anyway okay uh next headline last one um and this is pretty small but bmw is the latest to adopt android automotive um bmw the company basically is saying that
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in march 2023 some of their new infotainment systems are going to be android automotive based and just to
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reiterate here because this is something i just learned very recently the difference between android auto and
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android automotive is android automotive is in your car in your car's infotainment system and your car is
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running it is the car it is the cars it doesn't have anything to do with your phone yeah right obviously it can
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connect to your phone and everything but like you it's not running off of your phone like android auto is i think this is awesome yeah google
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needs to work on their naming to make that a little more clear so we know the difference between android auto and
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android auto motive but yes and that also is funny because didn't we just see that the pulse star which runs on android automotive just added carplay support i think
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that's awesome because that means you're not going to get stuck in it in the future so people aren't going to not buy a car
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because it has it that's true i get so focused on the company is that i'm like why would they ever enable that but also i'm like yeah sweet i would love to have
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that android automotive android anything is going to be better than pretty much any
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automotive infotainment system they're all terrible we've said that a million times there's i don't like making
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blanket statements but i feel very comfortable saying every in-car's built-in infotainment system is bad
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period across the board all of them one hundred percent so yeah i don't mind supporting android
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automotive and android auto and carplay and car yeah all good all good stuff all right
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we're gonna take a quick break we'll come back we're out of our headlines but we're into our trivia see you in a
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second [Music] all right welcome back to the final section of this week's podcast where i have no notes all it says is trivia
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finale showdown yeah i think we talked last week about i was so far behind in points let's like
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maybe wrap it up we're going to keep doing trivia i have to say thank you everyone for giving us feedback on
00:28:48
trivia it's something adam thought of a few months ago um and we wanted to try it and everyone loved it so now it's
00:28:54
like part of the show it's fun we love it i like it so we're kind of doing like imagine this as like the season one
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finale and then next episode season two will start so we're keeping we're still doing it okay but i know nothing else
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about what's happening from now on final jeopardy of season one i don't know maybe it's like a final jeopardy where
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its own tv show and that would be an awesome tv show why have they never done only final jeopardy this show well
00:29:18
because you have to get the first part of the jeopardy to build up the points so that people can i don't like your double jump anyway
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whatever alice and adam what's going on whoa welcome to trivia final showdown the waveform episode so this is how this is
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gonna go we're gonna have a few questions and rounds and things like that i'm going to ask
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a couple questions about tech phones cars companies in general whatever i love this crack is cracking up um so we're gonna take
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the suggestion of a lovely commenter last week ramazan samat i think his name is i hope i'm pronouncing it correctly but thank you so much because he had the idea to let andrew answer first a couple
00:30:06
questions so that there's a hope that you can catch up so it'd be a little i also think this is
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like what he suggested was every week when we do trivia is the person who's behind
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should get the first chance to answer the question and then if they get it wrong then the next person can steal so
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if you're a head and the person so if kind answers first and gets it wrong then you can then you can get it
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and get the question okay otherwise i can't answer i like that yeah i think that's an interesting thing i guess we're doing it today but also just like
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going forward in general i like it so yeah it'll make it hurt so much more when i get all of these wrong
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okay we'll see i'm going to close my laptop so no one thinks i'm cheating although when i get them all wrong no
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one will think i'm cheating anyways so okay so first question kudos on that music by the way that was just interrupting very quickly that was that i felt like i was in a game show there
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for a second yeah that was a good choice yeah it was great he played that for me earlier and i was cracking up i was like absolutely um okay
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andrew oh well let's see what the score is first the score is 14 marquez andrew eight woof let's go first question to andrew what
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year did the nexus q come out i hope the next question is not what is the nexus q because i also don't know what that is um but i will take a guess
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2011. [Music] correct 2011. let's go can i know what the thought process was for that guess [Laughter] andrew i don't know when android came
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out sometime when i was in college so no a little before college no in college yeah i just guessed a year in college i don't even remember when i
00:32:03
went to college at this point great do you know what the nexus queue was no do you i don't know what it looks like
00:32:09
why a tablet is what i'm guessing so it came out at the same time as a nexus tablet okay but it was an
00:32:15
orb shaped media player that was discontinued immediately i need to see a picture the reviews destroyed it immediately i need this this sounds awesome was it like literally like a
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month i think i at one point did a list of the fastest discontinued tech products of all time and it was like top
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five was it faster than the celeron pixel slate probably i think it was i think so i
00:32:40
think it was because pixel slate hit the shelves and then real people bought it and then the reviews hit sorry i i need
00:32:47
to look this is cute yeah look up wait next ski was a kind of one of the quirkiest pieces i also thought it was 2012 so i'm glad you got that kind of
00:32:54
looks like a amazon echo now that i'm looking at it it does a lot like a smooth version of the yeah
00:33:02
they were first oh what wait this is so much worse than i thought it was what does it do it's just a ball with you plug it into your tv and it was just
00:33:14
it was like a chromecast it didn't do anything it was like google play movies samsung needs to buy the leftover stock of this and turn this into uh the bixby speaker this was okay so you plug this
00:33:26
into your tv and it would stream google services for you instead of the tv streaming it so you don't have a
00:33:32
smart tv plug it in now you have google play well that makes way more sense yeah but it's just google play movies okay so
00:33:38
it was like the it all did chromecast get developed from this pretty much uh it came shortly after correct supposedly
00:33:45
the chromecast was developed by a different team the queue walked so chromecast could run exactly exactly i
00:33:51
love i love that i want one of these i think right now probably pick one up on ebay for about 30 cents we need to
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get one we need to get one okay good job you got it nice okay next question and andrew is still down so he'll get first dibs all right physical challenge yeah um do 28 jumping jacks no um marcus
00:34:12
what does the s in https stand for that one i know system yes that one i know nope i'm trying to market all of it
00:34:26
it's funny because when i first made mkbhd.com i made it through squarespace and i got the most complaints i ever got
00:34:34
for as garbage as that oh i remember those components all the complaints were like why isn't it secure why isn't it
00:34:39
https marquez you could have made a secure website so i know that the s stands for secure
00:34:44
uh i'm trying to remember so hypertext transfer protocol secure oh that i do not know i think that's what https does
00:34:51
ellis is giving me the thumbs up so yes correct sure yeah let's go with that i'm mad i didn't know that because of your
00:34:57
review yes i do i could they were so bad they were taking me in it like yeah i remember it is secure now mkbhd.com you can go check it is secure now with a capitalist social
00:35:09
security.com all right next question this one's hard seagate's first hard drive the st506 was released in 1980.
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how much storage did it come with you say the name again seagate's first hard drive the st506
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whoever gets the closest without going over what will get the point without going over yeah 86
00:35:42
it was released in 1980 how much storage did it come with 80. like that's going to be so low that i don't think i'm even
00:35:49
going to get the unity correct like like okay so no the first storage piece of anything i ever bought was a thumb drive in high school that was one
00:36:01
gigabyte and it was eighty dollars i'll always remember that because what you can buy for eighty dollars right now is
00:36:06
insane like probably over a terrible grab a terabyte for 60 bucks yes so like if that was in 2004
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[Music] 2005 like 19 20 80's we're talking kilobytes uh i'm gonna guess 500 kilobytes i was gonna go way lower i i don't know
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how to get much lower than that i my only context and it's kind of the same fly of thinking as you is i remember
00:36:34
having a windows 95 computer that had its ram measured in kilobytes i think it was 128 kilobytes of ram okay but again that's 19.95
00:36:44
well it has to keep going that's also flash storage and not a hard disk duh interesting so okay fair uh i still i'm still going lower though i'm still gonna go
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i'm gonna go based on the name 50 kilobytes i almost wanted to say 506 because of the name but like there's no way it's 50 bytes it's got to be more you wouldn't buy 50 bytes of storage i
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don't think so i'm going to go 50 000 there is someone out there nope that that was like into tech in the
00:37:15
80s that is just cringing very mad at it somebody knows that i apologize to you so andrew gets the point because he was closest the correct answer is five megabytes five minutes
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i wanted to say one megabyte but that felt like too much yeah what'd you say 500 kilograms kilobytes i said 50 kilobytes
00:37:33
yeah good for them five minutes good for seagate man their first product wow they took a while to get i mean i'm sure yeah i'm sure they get faster
00:37:46
yeah five megabytes wow all right next question which of the following is not a 2000s
00:37:53
mobile operating system you could store two youtube thumbnails on that yeah and have space for a couple text documents yeah you couldn't edit them because the project file would be too
00:38:07
busy you could store the thumbnail i'm sorry i interrupted but that's just like don i'm always down for a chance to dunk
00:38:14
on youtube yeah that is ridiculous that that is wait what's the score now the score
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marquez 15 andrew 10. okay okay okay so andrew is still getting first questions just to be clear
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thank you i'm sorry which of the following is not a 2000s mobile operating system good luck symbian danger os
00:38:38
or bos when you you say 2000 it's just like at any point in the year 2000 through 2001 i mean 2009. 2009. okay okay
00:38:52
i still don't know any of them i just wanted to i don't danger os seems very dated i'm going to guess danger os
00:39:06
yeah yeah nope oh this is a chance to steal yeah that would be bos is not the real one oh is it not real or is it not it's not real at all no
00:39:17
bos is a real operating system b b e o s was an operating system for power pc laptops okay in the early 2000s i guess i heard bos and i just thought of like the b movie first wait wait it was
00:39:30
in the early 2000s yeah symbian i've definitely heard of yeah what's dangerous dangerous i believe was for the sidekick why would you ever name your own os
00:39:43
danger os was it i think wasn't the company who made the sidekick called danger now that i don't know imagine in today's age with all this like with privacy
00:39:55
being so important naming something danger os and then like your mom signing on to and their phone's just dangerous
00:40:02
they will boot the phone danger hip hop danger the company made the sidekick yeah wow
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i'll take the point but i that's that's a lot of new information for me right there yeah that's the point of trivia learning something new yeah okay all
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right so the score marquez 16 andrew 10 so andrew gets first dibs on the question this is a hilarious formality it's rough to be in the hot seat
00:40:28
andrew yes what year did bill gates graduate from college um oh man i did watch his documentary okay good start great start wasn't one
00:40:47
of the things that popped out to me uh it was interesting there's a reason for that
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night oh did he not graduate college is that your final answer can i get it i kind of think you gave that one away
00:41:06
i know i was trying to help okay thank you okay elise was on purpose i was doing the background okay he's about my
00:41:12
parents age and what year did they also what school did bill gates wait a second did he not go to any school i thought he
00:41:18
didn't go [Music] i think he dropped out from somewhere is it stanford i didn't even the what the thing i will remember from i forget if it was from that or just like is he
00:41:30
always met with warren buffett and have you ever seen the video of warren buffett eating a cheeseburger or a
00:41:35
hamburger when he was eating with bill gates he he opens the burger up at like a
00:41:40
diner dumps salt onto the top of it flips the burger over takes the bottom bun off and
00:41:46
then puts more salt it is it is like watching the video of my jaw was just like on the floor like how is this man still alive right now but highly she's like preserving his find
00:41:59
that video yeah yeah that burger does not change in his gullet at all incredible
00:42:05
all right so score is 16 marquez andrew 11 yep so now we're gonna do a smartphone speed round smartphone speed round to close this out it sounds like it would be way more fun
00:42:17
if marquez is guessing first marquez can guess first if you want to give it away is it speed speed round just what are the rules for speed so the rules for speed round i'm glad you asked
00:42:28
you have 30 seconds to answer as many questions correctly okay as we give you okay okay okay do you think there are enough questions for us both to get 30 seconds yes okay cool yeah we have five
00:42:42
for each of you and then i could just start picking random questions so you will get five dedicated smartphone ones
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and then if you buy if you fly past those and you get them all correct i have a a bunch more that i can choose
00:42:52
from that won't be smartphone related but i doubt you'll get past the first five so it's fine yes i mean this is hard because as you can
00:42:58
tell when i don't know i just make bad jokes instead and those take up a lot of times so so you will get one point if you get the
00:43:05
manufacturer correct two points for the phone okay shout out to android authority for some of the
00:43:10
things on this list by the way because they made the list shout out and we just took them all so
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you're ready with the timer so you first yeah andrew goes well you can choose to
00:43:21
let marquez go first if you want or you can go first it's awesome let's go you'll do it all right three
00:43:26
two one go first smartphone with dual cameras iphone 6. yeah i knew that one first front-facing
00:43:38
camera phone iphone four first with a notch the uh the central phone first smartphone with nfc
00:43:53
nexus 4 first phone with reverse wireless charging oh okay i'm also going to clarify because i the essential
00:44:04
phone but that was the ph1 yeah yeah you got that one okay marquez off the top of your head which ones are
00:44:10
those did you know i think all of them oh okay wait can we what is it htc evo 3d was we had a dual answer here because technically the evo 3d did have dual
00:44:23
cameras yeah we also would have accepted the htc htc one m8 because that had the
00:44:28
first modern dual camera yeah yeah do you know which one had the first front facing camera was the 4s no
00:44:36
oh it was before the 4 uh we found a kia sarah phone from 1999. that front-facing camera oh yeah i wouldn't
00:44:42
have gotten that okay so we had a similar kiaceraphone can hold not one not two but 20 jpeg
00:44:49
images that's a lot of youtube thumbnails right that's a lot like 10. yeah not bad okay all right did
00:44:56
you know well i'll start off the next one with that so wait let's let's tally it up so i got one you got the essential phone
00:45:04
and a half and the nexus phone so that's three points you should you got three streams not give me that app credit well
00:45:09
you got the phone so that's two i got the phone yeah you said the nexus s didn't you oh no you said next was four
00:45:14
oh never mind like nexus is one point i'll give i'll give it a good point i'll give the number
00:45:20
give a point out of the goodness okay three points yeah so at home if you've been keeping track and you're tied with me you win yeah there we go so marquez is kind of like a
00:45:34
victory lap because the score right now is 16 14. right right don't injure yourself on the victory lap that's don't
00:45:40
go backwards we still got another season so you don't want to like have a career-ending injury okay okay ready set
00:45:48
go first phone with reverse wireless charging oh that one i don't know pass first phone with bluetooth
00:45:59
iphone 3g first capacitive touchscreen iphone one first fingerprint sensor fingerprint sensor at all yep on the phone
00:46:11
iphone 5s nope first phone with qi wireless charging jesus galaxy nexus i don't know wow that was a good that was a good set of questions that was time all right yeah nope so i feel
00:46:26
like these are all obscure yeah they're a little and they were more obscure i had to find like features we actually
00:46:32
know and care about to find these phones um it's funny because in a speed round i think of like
00:46:38
the notable introduction of the feature which is definitely not the first one like i think of when the first iphone
00:46:44
got a fingerprint sensor and i'm like that was not the first one of the different sensor but that's the first one that i remember with a fingerprint
00:46:50
sensor yep all right so so you didn't get any points yeah zero maybe what the real answer is so first phone with reverse wireless charging the huawei mate 20 pro oh i think i did a video on
00:47:02
that phone first phone with bluetooth the sony ericsson t36 was never gonna first phone with a capacitive touch screen the lg prada
00:47:13
way back oh i guess there were a bunch of touch screens though not resistive what was the type of touch screen the old do you remember was it the blackberry force
00:47:25
it had a resistive touchscreen is that what it was where it's like a physical button as well it was like you had to press hard enough to connect two layers
00:47:32
if that's the whole screen moved in yeah that was terrible that was bad i yeah it's worth mentioning the lg product did come out only a month or two before the first iphone it barely beat
00:47:44
it to market yeah that was a big last second thing apple decided to do with the iphone i was like we actually
00:47:51
have to do capacitive glass touch screen with multi-touch go now we just use the apple pencil so it
00:47:58
works out uh first fingerprint sensor was the pantek gl100 i would have been very shocked what year was that even i don't even have i've never heard of pantex i got
00:48:11
the way easier questions have you ever heard i got the only phone that was like that came out when i since i've been announced in 2004 the pantech gl100
00:48:23
okay or gi i don't know you know how like sometimes they look similar glgi yeah yeah whatever that was first phone
00:48:29
with qi wireless charging nokia lumia 920 i feel like you should have gotten that
00:48:35
one that was the first one with chiwei was charging apparently whoa i've reviewed that phone too yeah wow do
00:48:42
you want the last two just for just for free i do yeah hit us with we'll work together for the last night yeah yeah so
00:48:48
first phone with in display fingerprint sensor vivo x20 it wasn't x21 it was so they made like a sort of a prototypey phone that we
00:48:59
checked out and then it came out in the next version so i think it was vivo x20 or it was the one we hit with a hammer
00:49:06
to test yeah it would still work definitely is it x x 20 x 20 plus ud technically but yeah okay that was the
00:49:12
one yeah and then first phone with triple cameras hmm oh see i thought this one was too easy
00:49:18
that's why i say triple cameras so we got the dual cameras from the m8 happening was it a v 30.
00:49:30
interesting ultra wide lg did ultra wide and primary but they didn't have a telephoto they just did ultrawide so those dual cameras the v30 didn't have triple the v20 didn't 30.
00:49:43
oh maybe yeah maybe it was like a macro or some some small like i don't remember what it was i feel like i just yeah i bet it is lg i kind of think it's
00:49:55
lg i bet it is lg is it lg huawei p20 pro oh oh yeah we take a bunch of pictures
00:50:02
yeah yeah i remember that i remember the color i remember the color of it it was that like crazy green like vibrant had
00:50:10
some purple in it was really nice yeah i ran a lot of bills that was a season one of trivia season one final score marquez 16 andrew 14.
00:50:21
we're gonna have to get a trophy that's a crazy that's a crap i feel like with this and with match cut we just need to order bulk trophies for the studio and
00:50:27
start handing them out just for useless things we just need like little like soccer trophies that we hand out for
00:50:33
uh like the dundies i wouldn't mind a soccer trophy we should do it's not bad all right well that's been a fun first
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season of trivia but the season of waveform continues and the season of tech is only just getting started as you
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probably already could tell so stick with us thanks for listening this week and we'll catch you guys very soon peace
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