00:00:00
by by partyall hello Apple invites all
00:00:05
right I'll Apple rhymes with partyall you could have just not really Apple bye-bye partile Hello Apple that rhymes
00:00:13
way more than what you said it's missing a syllable it's missing a syllable but
00:00:19
it Rhymes all right what is up people of
00:00:25
the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast where your hosts Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm
00:00:31
David and this week we've got a new Apple app that actually looks pretty
00:00:36
solid uh we're going to talk about why meta is considering 2025 a maker break year for some reason uh pixel 4A update
00:00:43
that's doing way too much for some reason as well and what is going on the
00:00:50
episode and uh we've got a new app in the timeline app category Adam is excited about um and then we'll end with
00:00:56
a rant we'll end with a rant from Andrew but first the biggest news of the week the NBA trade deadline is coming up
00:01:03
sometimes news transcends you know the niche that we're in it really does and I think we need to talk about Luca donish
00:01:09
getting traded absolutely unforeseen I know David you you probably saw this news and were immediately like whoa okay
00:01:17
huge trade crazy the only thing that I know about this is that they posted it on the verge which makes no sense to me
00:01:25
they actually that's hilarious but I didn't look into it perfect I figured we would explain it to you in other terms
00:01:34
in Tech terms in like Tech terms and then hopefully you will understand better how shocked you I were cuz I
00:01:40
remember I remember where I was when I found out I think I remember I read it
00:01:46
on the r hockey subreddit like I was just on my phone and it was like how
00:01:51
would you describe the Luca dones trade in terms of hockey players and I was like wait Luka got traded I know him as
00:01:59
he's a really good OverWatch player does traded just means that that like they offered him more money so he went to a
00:02:05
different team no signing so there are contracts and and Company owners so
00:02:10
here's the actual uh let me find the actual trade just so I can make yeah why you find that it seems like every niche
00:02:16
of the internet is doing like a how do I explain the Luca trade in X so is that
00:02:21
big of a deal it's a huge deal yeah so we're going to try and do it in Tech terms just one guy though right there's
00:02:27
a couple other things but the the main meat and potatoes of the deal is like one player for one player and we're
00:02:34
gonna talk about they usually players there's there's all sorts of I feel bad for the other guy because they're only
00:02:40
talking about the Luca guy does nobody care about the other guy well we we'll
00:02:46
explain to you about the other his name's Anthony Davis that's the first time I've heard of that he's like sorry
00:02:52
Anthony an amazing basketball player he played in the Olympics for Team USA this year a totally dominant dominated that's
00:03:00
cool great basketball player okay the thing is yeah the thing is me the top level like face of the franchise players
00:03:08
typically do not get traded doesn't LeBron move around like all the time LeBron moves around on his own accord he
00:03:15
doesn't get traded so he'll decide to sign a contract with the Lakers and then
00:03:20
now the Lakers own his contract this might be a good point the difference between like trading and signing as a
00:03:27
free agent so like your contract goes x amount of years and if it's within that x amount of years you go to another team
00:03:33
it means teams agreed on a trade and you have to move yes so your contract can be
00:03:39
traded wow but if you wait till the end of that contract and you go to free agency then you get to
00:03:45
choose if a team offers you money where you go so this is a trade Luca did LCA
00:03:51
know about this he didn't so nobody knew about this so that's so what I'm saying is like franchise players like some of
00:03:56
the biggest names in the NBA you think like Steph Curry like when you think of Steph Curry you think of the Warriors
00:04:02
The Warriors will not trade Steph Curry all of the fans would be mad all of the
00:04:08
teammates would be mad wherever he goes they won't like the fan it it would just be weird it wouldn't work um what's
00:04:14
another NBA player you know just like a big name Kevin Durant have you heard of him a little Giannis no what about um y
00:04:23
yaming ya ya Ming okay so he was on the rockets and he wasn't you know he was a
00:04:31
franchise sure franchise player let's say let's go with that okay the Rockets yeah fans love this guy they wouldn't
00:04:38
trade him even if you offered another great player sometimes they'll offer two three four five six seven eight players
00:04:44
future draft picks a whole bunch of other assets and they still won't trade this guy Luca is that guy for the Dallas
00:04:50
Mavericks okay so he's he's like Steph Curry yes let's let's do the the tech
00:04:56
version of this I think Marquez brought up yes yes no earlier which is segment from reply all we're going to
00:05:02
describe this to you in Tech terms and then we'll see if you you can explain
00:05:08
the severity of the trade afterwards and see okay yeah what that means can I go first I have a pretty simple one okay so
00:05:16
the trade is Luca donic for Anthony Davis there are a couple I'm going to do
00:05:21
LCA Don for Anthony Davis and a first round pick because that is part of it there was a couple other players so and
00:05:28
I think what's important here is who initiated the trade it was the team that Lucas on the Mavericks they want to get
00:05:33
rid of him well they did get rid of him that was everyone's reaction so what would your reaction be is if I have an
00:05:40
s24 ultra okay and you have an s20 Fe
00:05:46
and Galaxy Buds and I said from the same year so comparing Anthony whatever his
00:05:51
name isy Davis to an S s20 Plus um it's not bad and I come to you
00:06:00
and I say I want your s20 Fe and Galaxy buds I will give you an s24 ultra oh
00:06:09
what would be my reaction yeah no really wait oh yes sorry I was thinking the
00:06:16
other way around so like in my eyes it's cuz the Galaxy buds are not that expensive they're not that expensive
00:06:22
they're fine it's a nice thing to have the s20 Fe or I could even go S21 plus
00:06:27
maybe maybe S21 plus and but like a phone that works totally fine for you s24 Ultra is like exact much better it's
00:06:35
good you know we're getting to this point of security updates are seven years for Samsung phones now right so
00:06:40
like you're kind of as taking the old phone is the security updates like the contract you know seven years it's I'm
00:06:46
thinking of it as age cuz Luca's 25 Anthony Davis 25 31 25 years old yeah so like I'm giving
00:06:55
you I'm turning to dust something that's you know it's going to lose security updates in like 3 years but it's still a
00:07:01
good phone right now but you're giving me a phone that's better and also is going to get security updates for six
00:07:09
more years than uh are you're talking no I would get that sorry you would get that yeah I would get that yeah I mean
00:07:15
yeah okay because he's 25 yeah so he's unless he like breaks his leg yeah he's
00:07:20
got a bright future ahead of him I have another version of this okay I see that you have an M4 MacBook Pro I would like
00:07:28
to trade you my Intel I9 MacBook Pro and
00:07:33
airpods what do you think no come on why would I ever do that it's pretty good although this trade would
00:07:39
be the I9 is famously a not good Mac the I9 is Anthony Davis it's fine it's great
00:07:47
it's pretty good it's overpower you got to cool them down yeah it sometimes isn't the healthiest yeah and the
00:07:53
battery is going to run out at some point and it's probably got a lower uh if you put it in the freezer it works
00:07:58
better yeah yeah when you first got it it was like the best thing one of the best yeah okay I got one for you okay
00:08:05
the Fuji x16 okay for the Sony a6500 plus a
00:08:10
memory card well the a6500 at least is it has interchangeable lenses it does
00:08:17
but no um it's a good camera plus a memory card plus a memory card do I get to have
00:08:24
a memory card in my own camera no you have to buy well then it won't work you have to buy your own you have to buy your own yeah yeah no wait so why did
00:08:31
they trade this guy the okay the word on the street I mean cuz nobody saw this trade coming this was a very you know
00:08:37
trades that are this big typically leak a little bit like people start talking about oh this guy is not happy with the
00:08:44
team he's on maybe they get moved nobody saw this coming the players didn't see this coming the coaches didn't see this
00:08:50
coming the owners didn't really know about it the GMS made the trade who what's a GM General man Grand Master
00:08:56
general manager of the teams essentially they run the team and the
00:09:02
organization and they quietly these two organizations had conversations with each other and no other team made the
00:09:09
trade and that was it and typically a big player like this you shop him around
00:09:15
like okay this is a everyone wants Luca right everyone would take Luca is he the best player in the NBA he's one of the
00:09:22
top five best players in the NBA and he's 25 he's 25 and if any other GM had known that he was available they would
00:09:28
have offered everything to get him this like a back door deal it seems like the only rumor
00:09:35
is you know he was scheduled to get a $350 million supermax for his next
00:09:41
contract and he's sometimes a little bit out of shape in the off season which I I
00:09:48
understand because he is top 500 rank in OverWatch 2 he is nasty at OverWatch 2
00:09:53
wait really and OverWatch wait he's top 500 how does this man have time for both these things how are you Elite at two
00:10:00
different things there's a lot of athletes who are really good at video games sometimes there was a a hockey
00:10:06
player who got traded because they said he played too much fortnite but he's like one of the best in the league I my
00:10:12
argument would be Luca could show up with a pack of cigarettes in his mou and
00:10:17
I would still take him because he's so good at basketball so my question is why didn't they shop him around that is
00:10:24
everyone's question no one knows the answer that seems sketchy yeah um um
00:10:30
yeah just one of those weird things that happens at the NBA trade deadline and you know more weird trades have happened
00:10:36
it's just it's just one of those weird news headlines even if he got 350 million do you think he could have gotten more so that's the supermax that
00:10:43
you're eligible for when you play with a certain team for a bunch of years in a row so he's been on Mavericks his entire
00:10:49
career and how long entire career five years so far and he would have been eligible started at 20 years old in the
00:10:55
NBA yeah and a top draft pick and would have been eligible for a the most
00:11:00
expensive contract in NBA history which honestly you pay the man he's worth it
00:11:06
uh but for some reason they didn't feel like paying him wow I'll throw one more tidbit out there the Mavericks just
00:11:12
announced that they're refunding season ticket holders who are mad
00:11:18
enough crap there were like people with signs outside of the stadium no way
00:11:24
really wow look there's a reason the Lakers said yes
00:11:30
well got tra to the Lakers yeah so the Lakers got Luca and look if you're the Lakers and you you have Anthony Davis
00:11:36
and somebody calls and goes hi we'd like Anthony Davis you're like no and they're like we'll give you Luca they're like
00:11:42
he'll be on your front step tomorrow yes of course I'll personally do the Lakers still have LeBron yes yes and so you
00:11:51
know who LeBron is that's important I think everyone knows LeBron and LeBron's one of the faces of the league and he's
00:11:56
40 and he's been one of the Legends of the game forever he's probably got one
00:12:02
two three more years years left and the Lakers looking forward to their future were like this guy's gone who do we have
00:12:08
yeah nothing and the Lakers have always been a very famous team they've always had some franchise face right whether
00:12:15
it's Kareem or Kobe or Shaq like they just now it's LeBron and who are they gonna have Luka this is like the Lakers
00:12:22
looking forward and being like who can we have and then someone knocks on their front door and hands them a briefcase
00:12:28
full of money like they didn't even go out looking yet yeah and it just came to
00:12:33
them so now just to just to test your understanding just to make sure you understand the trade okay can you
00:12:38
explain the Luca ad trade in Pokemon trading cards do I have to explain how
00:12:44
the game works just have card for card it's like trading Golem who's very good
00:12:53
for who else is like pretty good I feel like it's almost like trading talking just about like strength
00:12:59
in battling like Golem I would say like Charizard EX because Charizard's the Big Flash flashy like bright card that
00:13:07
everyone wants but in terms of battling it's not really that good you to evolve so much first level charmanders you to
00:13:12
evolve Golem a lot too you do but it's dude and grer are not very good cards the new grer is not gr has 40 damage way
00:13:21
down they have so much health though and you just play drug it on it's 100 Health it's not like a ton you know but
00:13:30
anyway I think that's a solad I think that's pretty good okay yeah we'll say that well and just real quick any any
00:13:38
well okay done with NBA if you want to come back to the Tech podcast we're here
00:13:44
we're back did you pull anything good in the new packs yeah actually oh did you um yeah so I I did one of the I saved up
00:13:51
a bunch of hourglasses and did one of the 10 cuts at once which was a bad decision don't do that delayed
00:13:57
gratification my friends is worth it always um they have this option where you can just open 10 packs at the same
00:14:04
time and it's just like super fast and it's lame so I completely disagree
00:14:09
because that is how I play basically every game I just hoard all of my gold
00:14:15
until I can buy everything so not fun though the progression isn't there yeah exactly it's like hard hard hard hard
00:14:22
hard now you're super over awesome yeah like doing all the side quests before you go after the first boss and then
00:14:28
just one shot them yeah I don't know I've gotten uh a lot of cool cards yeah
00:14:33
I don't know this one as well I think I got one good like um what's like immersive dragon type guy
00:14:42
or like get brosaurus kind of guy but then I also got one like that looks like a lawn mower and I just don't know what
00:14:49
Pokemon's doing anymore in the fourth generation there's this Ron Pokemon it's an electric Ghost Pokemon and he goes inside household appliances guess what
00:14:56
is Happ all the ROM cards are bad um but they're cute and fun so I think that's
00:15:01
the point of them same I'm just gonna cut this off right
00:15:08
here anyway so yeah luuka and AD got traded a whole bunch of more trades are happening NBA deadline all sorts of fun
00:15:14
stories there anyway this is a Tech podcast allegedly allegedly there is an interesting Tech story that I didn't find out about until today that is uh
00:15:22
plaguing pixel 4A I don't know if you guys have heard of this you know who you are so pixel 4 a couple years old but
00:15:29
uh apparently Google has started pushing a software update to it that has dramatically lowered the battery
00:15:36
capacity by up to 40% yeah now reading this headline seems kind of insane like
00:15:44
why would that happen um and so if you go back it it seems to read that there
00:15:50
was some sort of battery issue starting to pop up with old pixel 4as and probably enough of them started to pop
00:15:55
up that Google saw a trend SL pattern and just to be safe decided to just just
00:16:02
nip it in the bud and dramatically lower the charging capacity for Pixel 4 a for everyone who owns them yeah which is a
00:16:08
bummer if you own one because now your phone has a little over half the battery it just did the day before that update
00:16:13
got pushed yeah um but at least it won't explode now yeah Google has been very
00:16:18
vague about why they're pushing this update but they said it was apparently related to battery concerns but every
00:16:24
single thing that they did indicates that these batteries were probably going to blow up it just be a safety concern
00:16:30
you just don't want a safety concern yeah they noted it as a emergency maintenance release and they cut the voltage of the battery from 4.45 volts
00:16:38
to 3.95 volts which doesn't sound like a lot but that cuts the usable charge uh down by about
00:16:44
44% according to testing from Android authority so has anyone checked on the
00:16:50
five I mean the 4 a 5G it also come out at the same time yeah but it might have
00:16:55
just been that specific battery cell um they are also offer free battery Replacements Google Store credits and a
00:17:02
cash payment of $50 so it seems like they're really trying to motivate people to get like swap out their battery do we
00:17:10
have a 4 a probably I don't think so I thought we had every pixel yeah we do oh we might I'm going to go check and see
00:17:16
if our 4A is doing anything weird loved the 4A such a good phone it was $350
00:17:22
look I think it's on top of the cabinet or the bottom I'll check after the bot I'll check and if there is anything
00:17:28
weird about it I will insert a c it's definitely not on fire well unless it happened in like the
00:17:33
last 30 minutes but some other crazy things about this this update also gets rid of the Adaptive charging feature if
00:17:39
you didn't have it on before and if you uh you know the battery indicator and the status bar you can either just have
00:17:46
the picture of the battery draining or the actual number if you didn't have the number on before it gets rid of the
00:17:51
option to even have the number on which is crazy which is just yeah it seems
00:17:57
like Google is very afraid of these phones yeah if you have a pixel 4 a let
00:18:02
us know if you got this update or if you've noticed anything weird about your phone yeah and I'm curious to see what
00:18:08
we see honestly I know they're like it's cool that they're doing a battery replacement
00:18:13
at this point for whoever is still using one if there's like if you can prove it they should just give you the latest a a
00:18:19
model yeah like this is probably not that that many people like a couple
00:18:26
thousand maybe just give them up I don't know that was a very popular phone it was a popular phone we're what 40
00:18:34
million years five generations past it and it was already the like more middle range one so maybe not I'm sure there's
00:18:40
plenty but I think like at this point if you're giving $50 credit and batteries I
00:18:46
think you should just give them a free upgrade yeah that's true so yeah if you're out there be
00:18:52
careful stay safe out there friends don't put your pixel 4 a in your pocket
00:18:58
don't go to sleep if your pixel 4 a is plugged in yeah uh next is something that's very dear to mine and Adam's
00:19:04
Hearts very much though you want to talk about it psychos we are certified speed consumers
00:19:12
um abolute animals yeah so Adam and I famously consume content at 2x speed
00:19:17
famously yeah okay nice maybe Infamous you never depending
00:19:23
on who you ask uh YouTube premium is testing a bunch of new experimental features which not on my account
00:19:29
wow do you have premium yeah and I wish I had this feature I didn't get it I've been checking refreshing every day wait
00:19:34
you're right I haven't seen it oh no it's a Labs feature you have to turn it on oh okay which I did not do the
00:19:40
feature so okay there are many features there are many features one of them is that you can now watch videos in up to
00:19:46
4X speed Jesus Christ what are you guys doing what is
00:19:51
happening on IOS and Android 4X speed that is a little I've been trying to train myself for 3x like it's been
00:19:58
working on it 2.5 I can still do 3X 3X you you know how your brain takes an
00:20:04
information and processes it right yeah yeah you know how it does that
00:20:10
famously famously uh I feel like when I'm consuming things at 3x it's just
00:20:15
it's like it's like it's like 5% too fast for my brain to be able to
00:20:22
understand what's happening before the next thing is coming in yeah do you know how to read fast no
00:20:28
there's a way to read fast where instead of reading each word out loud in your head you just let your eyes scan it cuz
00:20:35
your brain will catch up and process it that's how you got to start watching these YouTube videos my brain doesn't work like that just stare at the screen
00:20:42
glaze over and just like let it all come in
00:20:48
I I was just editing a short and we were trying to get our shorts under 60 seconds yeah and sometimes if we record
00:20:56
the whole short and I edit it and it's all good and I get to the end it'll be like a minute and 4 seconds and the only
00:21:03
way I've like trimmed all the air and I've cut it up perfectly only way for me to get it under a minute is to speed it
00:21:09
up by like 5% and I'll go and I'll highlight the whole thing and I'll I'll
00:21:14
I'll set it to 105% and I'll play it back and'll sound just a little too fast and I don't know if I want to publish
00:21:20
that because it doesn't really sound right it's just a little bit too fast or whatever you guys were telling me you listen to videos at
00:21:26
250% speed of what they meant to be watched at and want more and you want more how know if I want more I mean it
00:21:34
would be useful to have 300 you know what I mean what's an example of a video that you would bro the met on YouTube is
00:21:41
like 4our videos right now those videos I feel like aren't
00:21:46
really meant to be watched the whole time you kind of listen to it in the background you watch some of it you
00:21:53
glance over maybe it's like a podcast like you're it's like on the Bluetooth in the car yeah it's not a good example
00:21:59
for for re when I'm researching something I need to like watch as many videos as I can and I like just consume
00:22:06
the information you know I'm like just leave it on 2X and I have to
00:22:11
watch multiple different videos explaining the topic to kind of get it in multiple different ways in my head
00:22:16
and so the faster I can ingest that information the better I get that I guess it's just that those probably are
00:22:22
not very visual explainers because I can process the audio at 2x I absolutely
00:22:28
don't think you can process well you could pause it you know so like I'm just
00:22:33
letting then it's zero pause it and then it catches up if I'm watching an explainer about something and I'm really
00:22:39
confused about like a graphic on screen or something like that I'll just pause it and then I'll like wrap my head around it like okay go on and then
00:22:45
continue with 2x you I wonder if the amount of time you would have taken up watching at 1X or watching at 2X and
00:22:52
then pausing for I'm not sitting there for 4 minutes looking at the graphic you know yeah interesting but that's how
00:22:58
much time I save watching 2x I guess just as a video editor I my feathers are Ruff okay here's a question for you yes
00:23:04
do you edit videos at 2x I do what yeah no if you press l in Final Cut it goes
00:23:10
at 2x yeah this podcast is only edited in 2x editing the podcast it's really
00:23:16
good especially editing a podcast you were part of cuz you kind of know what's happening that's how I used to do first
00:23:22
passes when I edited way first pass maybe yeah the main way I edit videos is
00:23:28
like Ripple trim back Ripple trim forward and add edit so it's like it cuts out everything behind it adds an
00:23:35
edit or cuts out anything everything in front of it and so you're just like oh here's a part Ripple trim back here's a
00:23:42
part Ripple trim back add edit move forward yeah yeah so how do you I mean
00:23:48
you edit at One X speed I do I edit Everything At One X speed very meticulously and I make you're still quite fast eth of a second tenth of a
00:23:55
second fraction of a second adjustments yeah well you could still do that after
00:24:01
the first pass first he's saying like first pass to find the takes ex although I will say I've probably never watched a
00:24:07
video at regular speed before publishing it so I think I think you
00:24:15
should because of how many other people will yeah that's true just yeah also
00:24:20
this has bitten me into butt before because there's been times where like you guys drop in a frame link of a video
00:24:25
that's going live and I'll watch it on like .75 X speed for those that don't know frame iio is a service we use to
00:24:32
like leave comments on each other and it's limited to 1.75 yeah it's limited to 1.75 even still I've missed certain
00:24:39
like weird cuts or things like that because in the speeding it just won't play that when you're playing back at
00:24:45
1.75 you're going to miss frames it has to skip frames there's like a flash frame or like Miss or like something
00:24:52
extends for one or two too many frames into the next scene or something weird happens like that you'll just miss it in
00:24:57
the edit and you have to watch it at 1X to catch that I feel like I always catch those in frame even after multiple
00:25:02
people have watched and now I'm realizing cuz I'm the only person that I feel like watches things at 1X I watch
00:25:07
at 1X I'm 280 HD dude if I'm like trying to watch back a 17-minute video that I'm
00:25:13
like trying you know it's like I'll get kind of antsy and then I'll have to pick up my phone it also depends on the
00:25:20
video speed you starts roll Tik Tok like some people talk really slow so
00:25:27
when you put it at 2 speed it almost sounds like now they're talking normal well and when you're used to watching 2x content 1 x speed feels like it's taking
00:25:35
forever real real life goes so slow for me like you guys sound so slow right now
00:25:40
I can't in yeah you know Fair broken
00:25:46
Marquez fair I would you I just feel like you wouldn't watch a movie at 2x you wouldn't watch a that's art watch
00:25:53
kurts gazar video at 2x you would watch uh you watch those at 2x yeah I watch
00:25:58
movies at 2x I watch anything that looks like I'm supposed to be taking artistic value from it I watch those at 1X same
00:26:05
okay so information based 2x B no I watch I watch way for
00:26:11
2x I I aim to make videos as a creator that people watch as intended yeah that
00:26:16
makes sense but if what if your intention is 2x then publish it at
00:26:21
2x publish just make a 2X export and upload that and then just title it watch
00:26:28
this at. 5x speed if you need to be real time wait I want to do this so bad don't ever do that can I do a clip this whole
00:26:35
conversation will be a clip 2x I just at
00:26:40
0.5x watch and people watch 2x this is like a 30 minute clip okay so back to
00:26:47
the story so apparently they're going to allow 4X I don't know what this is for I
00:26:53
you would be a superh human if you were able to consume at 4X I feel like it's more more for rushing forward in the
00:27:01
video but I don't know you don't just click around in that case just hold you can just hold hold space to fast forward
00:27:06
yeah great but does that go to two that does 2x so oh it could do four maybe it's for that then yeah but it's it's
00:27:12
only on IOS and Android for some reason other updates uh that are in YouTube
00:27:17
premium and they are in testing currently are smart shorts downloads on iOS so it automatically downloads shorts
00:27:25
for you how many uh great question probably like five I mean there's value
00:27:31
to like I'm on the subway and there's no yeah but that's assuming you're watching every 60c clip to the full but that's
00:27:38
the thing about it has to download every single one yet the majority of things in
00:27:43
a short feed that I actually watch to full is like 5% exactly that's what I'm saying so it's probably going to
00:27:49
download like a 100 you can just Swip through 45 seconds
00:27:54
scrolling I would love to maybe not quite that bad but okay okay um that
00:27:59
there's also shorts picture and picture on iOS which is you know you know that
00:28:05
there's that Meme of like uh of like watching Subway Surfers while doing everything else a shorts while you're
00:28:13
doing something else on your phone why you're on reals yeah it's a little crazy
00:28:18
it's a little crazy uh there's going to be high quality audio for 256 kiloby
00:28:24
pers second sound on IOS and Android somewhere else is shaking his fist at the sky why wouldn't he like that I
00:28:30
don't know we'll find out okay um also Jump Ahead which is this awesome feature where if it notices that
00:28:38
most people sort of skip to a different part of the video generally that's to avoid sponsors one of the most useful
00:28:44
features it's pretty awesome I got to say yeah it's basically almost every time I see the jump ahead button on
00:28:50
YouTube and I click it it's right at the end of the ad it's really good except for this podcast everyone watches these
00:28:57
naturally yeah yeah um I don't know why they're making these limited runs or why
00:29:02
they didn't have that on web in the first place um a lot these are all experiments so I would just assume on
00:29:10
web people don't double tap the screen to move forward they move the the cursor
00:29:16
the um timeline playhead yeah but but there's the jump ahead thing is like a
00:29:21
little thing that appears in the corner yeah but I thought it only happen on mobile when you start skipping like if
00:29:26
you Skip and then the first 10 seconds it realizes in as part everyone skips then it does Jump Ahead andless you skip
00:29:32
all the way I'll have to see how it works uh today all right well we're going to take a 1x speed break we're
00:29:42
gonna I'm not talking that slow let's take a quick break uh but before we do
00:29:47
trivia time [Music] trivia dud
00:29:52
trivia dude dude all right first question do you do you remember what the
00:29:58
code name of the pixel 4A was not Shamu it's the first thing I thought one
00:30:06
everyone thinks of that's the famous One iconic I remember some okay but I don't
00:30:13
know about this one code names are fun because companies don't usually talk about them yeah and usually they're not
00:30:20
actually related to the product except for Shamu that was related to the product project muhan is related
00:30:25
technically true but it's like public it's like being public yeah they called it project Infinity
00:30:32
like an infinite canvas even though we don't have an infinite canvas in the world one yeah okay that's a good
00:30:40
question well we'll think about that and the answers will be at the end like usual we'll be right [Music]
00:30:55
back support for waveform comes from imagine this you're starting a new project at work and your vision is clear
00:31:01
not only do you know exactly who's doing what but you also know exactly where to find the data you need to do your part
00:31:06
in fact you don't need to waste any time searching for anything and neither do you co-workers because everything your team needs from Project trackers and
00:31:12
okrs to documents and spreadsheets all lives in one tab all in Kota with kot's
00:31:17
collaborative all-in-one workspace you get the flexibility of docs the structure of spreadsheets and the power of applications and the intelligence of
00:31:23
AI all in one easy to organized tab that means one organized workflow without the daily scramble to figure out who's doing
00:31:30
what or where that important piece of data is hidden Kota connects the tools and teams so you spend less time
00:31:36
Switching gears more than 50,000 teams trust Kota to keep them more aligned and
00:31:42
focused so to try it for yourself go to coda.io swave today and get started for
00:31:47
free so that's c d
00:31:53
a.wav to get started for free coda.io wve support for waveform comes from net
00:32:00
Suite so despite our best efforts it's impossible to know what the future will bring there's no crystal ball to tell
00:32:05
you when the bull market might turn into a bare Market or when rates will rise or fall the best any of us can do is just
00:32:11
be prepared for any outcome and for that you might want to try netsuite by Oracle almost 40,000 companies choose netsuite
00:32:17
to help future proof their business so they can stay on track no matter what tomorrow brings netsuite is a top rated
00:32:22
Cloud Erp bringing accounting financial management inventory and HR into one fluid platform with one single source of
00:32:28
Truth netsuite offers realtime insights and data that you can use to make the right decisions at the right time all to
00:32:35
help you close the books in days not weeks so you can spend less time looking backwards and more time on what's next
00:32:41
for your business so whether your company is earning millions or even hundreds of millions netsuite can help
00:32:46
you respond to immediate challenges and seize opportunities speaking of opportunity download the cfo's guide to
00:32:52
Ai and machine learning at netsuite.com form so the guide is free to you at net
00:32:57
s.com /wa form nets.com form all right so welcome back Apple
00:33:04
released a new product this week it's an app it's an iOS only app now it's an iOS
00:33:10
only app that you can invite Android friends to participate in the experience of whoops but it is an iOS only app um
00:33:20
and it is in my opinion the most apple way that you could possibly do this it
00:33:26
is an invites app so those of you who are my age probably
00:33:31
remember Facebook events where you'd have an event you wanted to invite a bunch of people to and you have a bunch of Facebook friends so what you do is
00:33:37
you make a Facebook event and then you invite all of the Facebook friends to the event so they all know when and where it is and then huge right that's
00:33:44
that's how people my age used to do this if you were Andrew's age you remember letters yeah you're older if you're
00:33:51
younger you probably use this app called partti party full uh which is a lot of the same thing it's literally just for
00:33:58
events typically parties sure but you just invite anyone from their phone number or their email address and then
00:34:04
they get an invite but it's cool because you can send Text Blast in party party full so people can say they're going
00:34:10
maybe or not going and then you basically can send updates you're like oh we're moving to this location yeah
00:34:16
and this has been true about Facebook events and about all the previous events things where it's like you need to send a message to everyone who's there there
00:34:22
used to be a wall anyone who's invited could write on the wall and everyone gets a notification if you change the
00:34:28
time you could you know everyone gets a notification blast so party full is the is the newest hottest version of that
00:34:33
there's an app that's yeah so I'd never heard of party full till yesterday when we and I realized when I tried to figure
00:34:39
out what party full was it literally says that it is the Facebook events for hot people I don't know why it says that
00:34:46
that is weird but I realized why heard of it that is true though yeah we're not hot enough so that's fine I literally
00:34:51
just as we're recording this podcast got a party full invite and the person was hot that means you're hot and you're hot
00:34:57
now oh we haven't one so so so that's what's
00:35:02
you know that's the current state of the landscape so Apple comes along and they're like you know what we're a services company we could make an app
00:35:07
here they make the most Apple possible version of this which is the app is IOS
00:35:14
only Iphone only right anyone who has an iPhone gets a beautiful glassy wellth
00:35:22
thought out experience RSVP you know notifications comments All
00:35:27
That fun stuff you can add an apple music playlist Apple music playlist just want to an iPhone and iCloud Plus in
00:35:35
order to create an inv well to create an invite create an invite but you can accept one without I plus yeah if you go
00:35:41
to invite a bunch of people everyone who has that app will have a great experience but if you want to invite a
00:35:48
friend with an Android phone uhoh I guess you can and they'll get like a web
00:35:55
link or whatever and they'll be able to RSVP through the web link but they probably can't add to the Apple you know
00:36:02
music playlist or anything like that and they won't get notifications probably as easily they'll have to probably return
00:36:08
to that invite link there's just a few things that don't quite work as beautifully for the Android tested it
00:36:15
yesterday CU I'm on Android Adam sent me an invite as a test yeah it does bring
00:36:20
up like a web page it's in your browser the thing that's annoying right off the bat is you need an an Apple ID to sign
00:36:27
into it um I needed to log in oh no no an Apple ID to RSVP really and I have an Apple ID
00:36:35
but I think there are plenty maybe I'm missing something there but when I said it it said like log into RSVP and you
00:36:41
had there was an Apple ID sign in if you're an Android and Windows user you just can't RSVP to these EV just like
00:36:47
accessing stuff in iCloud like you know when you're not on a Windows computer I mean when you're not in a Mac computer you're on a Windows and you're trying to
00:36:53
access your iCloud you have to do it in the web and log in through your iCloud that way yeah wow which is annoying
00:36:58
that's wild yeah they definitely put their ecosystem in the front here um you can add to a apple photos library and
00:37:06
everyone can add to it live awesome Works super well for your iPhone friends super well for your iPhone friends now
00:37:12
your Android friend took pictures at the event too but N I don't know man kind
00:37:17
don't want to see those I guess there's the Apple music playlist that people can add to also cool also cool but they have
00:37:23
to again have apple music which that one's funny cuz there's plenty of iPhone users who don't have apple music that's
00:37:30
yeah that's true that's a good point um yeah it's just one of those things where they were like somebody else is doing
00:37:36
this thing that we technically could take control of because we own everyone
00:37:42
just so social yeah very social thing I think it's even a step further of we
00:37:47
control everyone in our ecosystem and keeps them in there and then this is one more thing that has that friction of
00:37:53
your friends that don't have iPhones yep let's jam it in their exactly think
00:37:59
about uh the FaceTime experience they finally added FaceTime on the web so you can invite Android users into your
00:38:05
facetimes and it's like okay great now we can all join a video call my aunt has an Android phone whip to do she can join
00:38:11
but she can't start a FaceTime and also it's going to be in the web browser and probably won't have all of the same
00:38:18
features and I doubt she's going to have the mimoji face like there's going to be things that aren't quite as ideal yeah
00:38:24
but it technically still works when did they launch that 2021 have you ever
00:38:29
facetimed with an Android User in that uh once I never have I tried it with my sister yeah yeah same reason there's
00:38:37
green bubbles and blue bubbles they can say it's there but they don't expect anyone to use it exactly and this is a
00:38:42
very us thing like if in the US this uh this social peer pressure thing that
00:38:49
happens with iPhones is so clear and so obvious and it's so obvious what they're
00:38:55
doing here and in many other countries are like well I guess I just won't use that dumb app then seems pretty stupid
00:39:02
so this is yeah not multiplatform other features it has uh you can use Apple Maps to go directly to the party I
00:39:09
believe you can add it to your Apple calendar and then also it plugs into
00:39:14
image playground which I find image playground generally really stupid however people do put pretty dumb photos
00:39:22
as their party full photos so I could see this being relatively handy did you see the picture that I added to this
00:39:29
event no cuz I didn't join the one that you invited me to the podcast you didn't join no he doesn't like me oh you're not
00:39:34
invited to the podcast I'm sorry no I got invited I just didn't RSVP oh so
00:39:40
yeah you should you probably have to go home wow Adam made a podcast invite a
00:39:46
podcast event on the invites app and the AI generated photo is a couple
00:39:52
microphones three microphones don't pay any attention to how the cables seem to disappear Into Thin Air and slightly out
00:39:58
of focus ones are a little bit convoluted with the buttons they don't really need anything it's fine work great seem to want to do anything it's
00:40:05
just spinning in circles he gets the idea across um yeah yeah I agree with you image playground is kind of weird
00:40:11
but and even with some past Samsung phones they've done this where it's like the image
00:40:16
generation for an invite I could see that being like kind of nice it's like let's get a general Vibe out here that
00:40:22
doesn't need to be super specific and I will say as a person making the invite it was helpful because like podcast
00:40:28
episode what do what do you put for that they had a bunch of balloons they had like all these other things but yeah I
00:40:33
was just like ah whip me up some a microphone it's the equivalent of this is like open AI is party full and Gemini
00:40:42
is Apple invites because open AI doesn't have access to things like your Gmail or
00:40:48
your calendar or any of this stuff and it's like it works on any platform and it's great it works for everything but
00:40:55
then Google swoops and is like but we can plug in our ecosystem and it's effectively the same thing and I think
00:41:02
you should just keep using party full because stop you just don't want to isolate anybody and we need to keep
00:41:09
these platforms open and partyold doesn't even have ads good luck I was G to say where's the Google version of
00:41:14
this that does put in calendar Gmail Maps uh I guess it does have Google
00:41:22
music but like Google could do all of this and I'm sure most iPhone users have a Gmail account H that's a good point
00:41:28
yeah but would they make it Android only no no way I don't know what any of them are you know what they'd make it pixel
00:41:35
only for 6 months and then it would be available launches with the s26 ultra
00:41:40
it's enabled by the tensor G4 and then it would be available on Google photos for
00:41:46
everybody totally the new feature pipeline okay um anyway if you like this
00:41:53
feature you should let us know if you hate it like me you should let us know and um love it wow you don't even have an iPhone I love
00:42:00
it because it gives me one more plausible reason to accidentally ignore an invite that I don't want to go to and
00:42:07
be like oh sorry I'm on Android it just didn't really come through correct sorry I missed that bug or a feature but yeah
00:42:15
Adam's like I'm going back to Android right now that is the greatest excuse ever that in a child but I'm not ready for having a baby yet
00:42:21
so sorry my baby can't go just get a you have a dog a dog is a great excuse
00:42:27
people don't accept it as much as a baby what I could be like I can't leave the dog at home they're like okay so go home
00:42:32
early I could be like no I'm not going at all I have a baby and everyone's like okay I understand I say okay so go home
00:42:39
early baby's fine yeah what did they do in the Middle Ages Adam people still went to parties okay did they and the
00:42:46
babies were all fine all of them famously famously famously um okay yeah
00:42:52
no there's another app though or at least something that I I haven't heard of but I think is an app that Adam's going to talk about is an app I think
00:42:57
you might like it honestly yeah okay it's called tapestry it is a new app that combines a lot of the things that I
00:43:05
do on the internet into one timeline I'm interested yes do you know how I know Marcus is going to like this the two
00:43:11
people I've seen talk about it are Adam and David pierce the third Trifecta is the only person missing it's a fediverse
00:43:18
reader by the way basically yeah it's like surf we talked about surf a few weeks it's like surf but surf when you
00:43:24
open it up the homepage is more like a magazine it's like pretty kind of like it's very inspired by Flipboard this is
00:43:30
just it launches you straight into a timeline like a feed so you could just start scrolling and everything is color
00:43:35
coordinated so like if you plug in your mcadon account it'll be purple if you plug in your blue sky account it'll be
00:43:41
blue you can add in RSS fees and YouTube channels yeah regular RSS fees the YouTube channel one is lowkey my
00:43:47
favorite feature of this which I CU YouTube is RSS yeah it's RSS and I don't think it's super unique to this app in
00:43:53
particular yeah you could just well I mean just RSS feeds in general you could just play in a YouTube channel or whatever but it made me realize how
00:44:00
little I use my subscriptions box in YouTube because for the longest I just
00:44:06
go and I like the the algorithm's pretty good now at like giving me something interesting that I want to watch right on the homepage so now I can actually
00:44:13
just add this into the thing that I'm using every day anyway I'm always on these like social media apps scrolling wasting my life so I could just put a
00:44:21
channel that I actively want to keep up with in there and it'll pop up this could you can put Twitter in this right
00:44:27
no I don't know I you can only put things that have open protocols which Twitter oh really yeah so yeah it has
00:44:34
Massad on um blogs that H that are open via activity Pub or RSS or whatever I
00:44:41
was going to say I want to put like the couple Twitter beat writers in the NHL that haven't moved to Blue Sky yet throw
00:44:48
them on that so I don't have to actually over anymore You' have to use their API which they sh I mean this won't be able
00:44:54
to work with threads either I imagine no yeah cuz threads hasn't opened if threads ever decides toate they won't
00:45:03
they said they will they won't David stop putting that into the universe they will Federate whenever anyway this app
00:45:10
uh I've been using it since 24 hours ago is yesterday yeah yesterday uh it's
00:45:18
actually like I really enjoy it for two main reasons one the YouTube thing like I said you could just throw it in and
00:45:24
then anytime a YouTuber that I care about publishes a video it pops up in my feed like in real time the second thing
00:45:30
is because it's more of a reader type situation and I have my blue sky plugged in I can't really interact with people
00:45:37
which I guess some people would see that as a con you would have to like you click it and it opens up the Blue Sky
00:45:43
app and then you can like interact with them or whatever but I like the fact that it's just like a oneway thing like
00:45:49
I'm just keeping up making sure that I know what's happening and I'm not actually like going back and forth with
00:45:54
people or anything like that like for that I just open up the blue sky app and do that dedicated over there can I ask
00:45:59
if you like if you're on the verge or 9 to5 Google or something can you get
00:46:05
posts from one specific author oh I guess I believe so if they have if they
00:46:10
have RSS Fe turned on it depends on the site I guess okay cuz I was even wondering like Verge was popping up on
00:46:16
here but I was wondering about the the paywall so I was like I don't know how that would this would most likely just
00:46:21
show like the the free stuff thumbnail well the the the title and the
00:46:27
image right and then you would go into it and but that still be good cuz if I went to like 9 to5 Google and be like I
00:46:33
just want to see what Ben's writing about and like have his stuff pop up cuz the Verge posts so much or like any of
00:46:39
those blogs post a lot but if there's someone specific you're following well that was going back to my YouTube
00:46:44
example my subscriptions box I was thinking about the reason why I don't use it is because it is just plastered
00:46:50
with IGN videos and I subscribe to IGN I like their videos they do make great
00:46:56
content but there's so many of them that it kind of and NBA too NBA is another one they will post like a million videos
00:47:02
so I just lose everything in unsubscribe from the big ones I unsubscribed from most of the channels that like Mass post
00:47:09
like that because the homepage is so good at just showing me the ones that I would have watched uh also I don't think we even mentioned that the name of this
00:47:15
app is called tapestry I did but yeah a totally original it's made by the
00:47:22
person or the app company that made Twitter yeah twit Ric the client yeah so they know what they're doing icon
00:47:28
Factory is the name of the company yeah so good stuff quite cool um these readers are cool and more people should
00:47:34
Federate anyway I guess this was kind of like your fediverse corner shoot you
00:47:41
took over my fediverse corner there's only room for one of us in the FED of us all right one other thing to talk
00:47:48
about after a leaked Memo from meta or I don't know if I would call it a memo or
00:47:53
like meta has a private Forum apparently and this was a post in the Forum Bosworth Andrew Bosworth yeah Andrew
00:48:00
Bosworth you I know man I don't know it's long starts with an A wrote a
00:48:07
pretty long post about why 2025 might be the make or break year for the meterse I
00:48:13
thought it was kind of interesting because of how deep into the metaverse
00:48:18
we are sort of I completely misread this title in doing this whole time I thought it was about the fediverse so I was
00:48:24
ready for David to go off and now I'm just realizing just now it's the metaverse I'm going to read I have a
00:48:31
couple questions about this that I want to post to you guys and I'm going to read the opening paragraph of his post
00:48:37
I'm ready so it says 2025 the year of greatness next year is going to be the most critical year in my eight years at
00:48:43
reality Labs we have the best portfolio of products we've ever had in the market and are pushing our advantage by launching half a dozen more AI powered
00:48:49
wearables we need to drive sales retention and engagement across the board but especially in Mr reality yeah
00:48:56
and Horizon worlds on mobile absolutely has to break out for long-term plans to have a chance if you don't feel the
00:49:01
weight of history on you then you aren't paying attention this year likely determines whether this entire effort
00:49:06
will go down as the work of Visionaries or legendary misadventure first of all bars bars at
00:49:12
the end there Andrew bars worth um but I guess he goes on then to
00:49:19
talk more about like how a pivotal how much of a pivotal moment this is um how
00:49:25
people should be doing the best work of their careers this year and then also how small teams can also succeed which
00:49:31
sounds like a hey guys I know we laid off a bunch of you but uh you still can pull this off for us um and it just felt
00:49:40
weird and I guess my question is we see Meta so recently really focusing on this
00:49:45
like AR VR XR whatever you want to call it they're super deep into Quest we saw
00:49:50
the glasses um not too long ago that they feel like they're kind of ahead of the curve on
00:49:57
what when he says this is make or break for the metaverse what are we talking about are we talking about XR in general
00:50:03
are we talking about the physical like meta worlds Horizon worlds would be it
00:50:09
for them um like the virtual world or are we talking about like goggles because maybe they're moving more
00:50:15
towards glasses which is way more focused on augmented reality and like your own world with things on it so I
00:50:22
was interested in this it it feels like when you just read the title it's like meta is freaking out about anything XR
00:50:28
related but I'm starting to wonder if it's more about like the creepy Mark Zuckerberg he's talking about this yeah
00:50:34
metaverse he's talking about Mark Zuckerberg in front of the Eiffel Tower no I think it's the legless it's kind of
00:50:41
a combination of some of those things I feel so we have seen some advancements
00:50:48
lately in the world of mixed reality we just showed Samsung's headset the project muhan which is again this this
00:50:55
weird thing where a bunch of companies feel the need to show us products before they come out or that in some cases
00:51:01
aren't even coming out just to flex that they are working on this it's coming soon and I think that this is along the
00:51:08
lines of believing that they will finally ship something that feels like it's you know a a usable real pair of AR
00:51:16
glasses like the Snapchat spectacles are a developer kit essentially right The Meta glasses that they showed us the
00:51:22
glasses glasses Orion are not a real product but they showed them off just a you know get them in front of people
00:51:27
look we're doing this um project muhan Samsung prototype coming later this year
00:51:34
uh again there's there's a bunch of movement towards a bunch of companies all poised to ship something they just
00:51:41
haven't yet I think it's interesting you go straight to Orion glasses though because to me this feels
00:51:47
like Orion is their focus but like the rest of reality labs and the Horizon
00:51:54
worlds esque vres stuff is like this is our last year to prove that this might be a thing CU meta
00:52:01
before we saw Orion was super focused on like the digital world that you would be
00:52:07
in and how it's so much better to work in this digital world and how it's better to like do all these different things it's how you're never alone you
00:52:13
always have the option to be with people and in this cool environment and I feel like this post to me feels more along
00:52:20
the lines of like hey all of this stuff that we've been working on for a while we may have just we may just totally
00:52:25
pivot at the end of and K the rest of the the metaverse as a
00:52:32
like place I think the metaverse is more of an umbrella term I don't know I don't
00:52:37
see Orion glasses as the metaverse you don't yeah but it is like part of the mixed reality yeah thing it's like XR I
00:52:45
the way I see it they went all in on the metaverse that's why they changed their name to meta and then when AI happened
00:52:53
the year after they were like oh I hadn't thought of that maybe that was
00:52:58
yeah that well no but I hadn't thought of like they literally changed their name to meta and now it's like well we
00:53:04
might give up on the metaverse are they going to change their name again well that's that's why he's saying this year will determine if this entire effort AKA
00:53:12
naming our company meta and tripling down quadrupling down on this like VR AR
00:53:17
metaverse thing will go down as the work of Visionaries cuz they were early to doing this and they really committed to
00:53:22
it or legendary misadventure the world moved on without them and people didn't about it well what they were trying to do before was make the next browser or
00:53:30
the next Google like they wanted to be the next platform like internet so Mark was like oh we can like quadruple down
00:53:36
on being the next version of the internet and then we'll own the platform and we own the OS that we can license out and all of this stuff and I don't
00:53:44
think anybody has used Horizon worlds or cares about it like it really feels like they never flesh that out to a level
00:53:50
that people actually gave you not remember when we played the Cheetos
00:53:55
Halloween world oh yeah that was revolutionary right other you don't remember there was
00:54:02
like in Horizon world the Cheeto the Cheeto like haunted house World cuz
00:54:09
remember for the like eight months where every company was like we have a metaverse division now and people were
00:54:15
buying real estate in the mete officer yeah yeah Disney had a chief metaverse officer and then they got rid of that
00:54:21
role like eight months later I think that was back when Meadow went around convincing everyone that they were going
00:54:26
to be the company that made the metaverse a thing yeah and now it's not so clear that meta is the only one who
00:54:34
will have a stake in this new platform that we're but I feel like the met the
00:54:39
metaverse as a platform meta originally foresaw as mostly a digital world
00:54:45
whereas now it feels like everyone's like oh AI is enabling all of these other things that are just XR
00:54:52
experiences yeah and so they're they're pivoting hard to mostly X stuff cuz like the ray bands are actually a hit like
00:54:58
the ray bands are actually selling units whereas the quest everyone knows what the Quest for it's for VR Gaming so I
00:55:05
think they're basically like if we cannot make our original 2020 metaverse
00:55:11
version of what we were going to do happen this year we basically need to Pivot the entire company towards XR I
00:55:17
think even the quest is starting like they started making way better pass through with it when they killed the uh
00:55:23
the quest Pro they were like oh cheaper perversion let's do a lot of the pass through stuff a lot of the functionality
00:55:29
in your own world kind of things so even that the thing that was there like money
00:55:34
maker metaverse thing is even pivoting towards yeah and they are doing that to they originally were doing that to compete with division Pro but now
00:55:41
they're like oh it just turns out that people want this more than they want to be fully encased in a virtual world they
00:55:47
destroy themselves by releasing a hit with the meta rebands no I think it just became more
00:55:53
clear what people actually want yeah I think they it's one of those things where nobody
00:55:59
knows what they want until they try it and they like it so like meta is trying a bunch of different things and they
00:56:04
have the meta rayb bands and they have the quests and they're going to make glasses and they're just doing a bunch
00:56:10
of different versions of the thing and one of them will be a hit hopefully for them but enough of a hit to like justify
00:56:18
this crazy investment that they they want it to be I mean they want it to be the thing that everyone like they they
00:56:24
every company wants the next iPhone which is like probably pretty unrealistic but every company is thinking that way like we want to be the
00:56:30
ones that Pioneer the next big thing yeah and it will be worth pivoting our whole company because we are now the
00:56:36
ones that control and have made this thing that we can profit from there's a
00:56:42
strong irony where meta is constantly talking about making like llama open source and how like open source software
00:56:48
makes everything better but yet they won't open up the threads API so you know when it when it benefits
00:56:55
you I guess yes wave for's been around long enough to watch Facebook change its name and potentially regret changing its
00:57:02
name dang meta is still kind of a banger name though okay
00:57:08
Banger Banger could be a banger could be legendary misadventure never know I legendary
00:57:16
misadventure is an awesome way of saying that's a band name wow we spend way too much money on this Legend and you're all
00:57:23
getting fired he's like we are either the people who have charted history or
00:57:29
we are losers but we're going to say that in a much nicer way legendary misadventure what would a success look
00:57:35
like for them all be in people would be watching waveform inside right now like
00:57:41
that's such a hard hit products yeah I know hit products or experiences that
00:57:46
are sort of familiar to all yeah like success for uh Android was like a whole
00:57:55
bunch of people using Android f and now Google can build inside of Android and everyone gets these things hit for apple
00:58:01
with the iPhone was pretty obvious like huge market share Takeover in a bunch of regions and like now they're a Services
00:58:07
Company building on top of the iPhone like it's this thing that they control it's a platform for them success for
00:58:13
meta is hit product that they can then build a bunch of things on top of Slash
00:58:18
around that they control so is the product of the headset or the Horizon I
00:58:24
think what we're talking about here is they really I really think they thought the product was Horizon
00:58:29
worlds what slth metaverse SL the digital world you kind of live in you
00:58:35
got to buy a product to access that yeah but I think there's more money in that
00:58:40
being the default like they want it to be the Android basically I think they wanted it to be the new internet pretty
00:58:46
much yeah the new Android where you spend all your time yeah yeah but now Android XR your browser sure literally
00:58:54
Android yeah I still don't really know what it's for it's uh it's for all the headsets that
00:59:00
aren't running meta or Apple's os's okay but here's a question when have you ever
00:59:06
seen someone use a headset and L does not count on my flight back from San
00:59:12
Antonio on Sunday I sat behind someone who was wearing a Vision Pro who was gesturing wildly for two hours on a
00:59:19
flight interesting I've never seen that before that's the first time I've seen it but it's it's a thing yeah and I I
00:59:27
imagine that $3,000 headset will not be seen in the public very often but way
00:59:32
more of the cheaper two three four $500 headsets will start to show up over the
00:59:37
next couple years and if you're a company like Google or meta and you know that that's true and you know that this
00:59:43
Hardware is coming down in price and here comes project muhan and then there's going to be a bunch of other stuff you want to be the ones that are
00:59:49
on as many of these headsets as possible yeah so I just we've been on this ride
00:59:54
so many times like back back in 2016 I was a VR reporter specifically and I
01:00:00
just remember like BMW was like oh we are using HTC Vibes to model the inside
01:00:07
of our cars and I'm pretty sure they weren't and that they had given one engineer aive and said try this so that
01:00:14
they could make a press release alongside HTC to make it seem like people cared about VR yeah and I I just
01:00:20
this is like the fourth time that we've had this like VR actually it's probably more than the fourth time yeah I think I
01:00:26
and I resonate hard with that the same thing exact thing happened with me I visited lucid and they were like here put this headset on you see we design
01:00:32
the cars with the headsets I'm like no you you did not but every company wants
01:00:37
to seem one ahead of the curve or early to stuff totally so if this seems like it might be the future they'll just
01:00:44
Proclaim that this is what we're doing yeah and two if you are wrong then it's
01:00:50
just legendary misadventure you just move on I'm going to call every mistake I've that's the title of this podcast
01:00:58
waveform episode 272 our legendary misadventure anytime I make a mistake I'm going to like Miss an exit and be
01:01:04
like we're going on a legendary misadventure it does sound like a Choose Your Own Adventure book that they just
01:01:10
picked the wrong T that sounds like you're blazing past EG like we'll be
01:01:16
good we'll be good B all right yeah all right well we got a little more to talk about but before we do that we should
01:01:21
take one more quick break before that trivia time
01:01:29
so Apple invites is for iCloud plus subscribers like you can only create one
01:01:35
if you're an iCloud plus subscriber correct yeah MH interesting what year did Apple announce iCloud I don't know I
01:01:43
Cloud at all yep uh when did clouds start forming
01:01:50
when indeed with the precipitation Apple become a service back when the atmosphere was
01:01:56
did remember when when Steve Jobs invented the atmosphere remember when we first
01:02:02
started having things in the cloud and people would just be like oh it's in the cloud and everyone's like whoa there was
01:02:08
like they would always like kind of look up
01:02:14
yeah everybody knows you can't have clouds without air so think about when the air came out oh anyway which air 5
01:02:21
billion years the MacBook Air I was there when it was unveiled well what think about this one
01:02:26
we'll think about this one we'll be right [Music]
01:02:40
back support for the show comes from Shopify starting a new business can feel
01:02:45
like a lonely Journey the twists and turns and the ups and downs can feel endless you might start with questions
01:02:50
like how do I get started and then how do I come up with a brand and even how do I actually sell stuff stuff that's
01:02:56
where Shopify comes in so nobody does sales better than Shopify home of the number one checkout on the planet and
01:03:02
the Not So secret secret the shop pay that boosts conversions up to 50%
01:03:07
meaning way less carts going abandoned and way more sales going so if you're into growing your business or your
01:03:14
Commerce platform you better be ready to sell wherever your customers are on the web on your store in their feed and
01:03:20
everywhere in between so the powerful social media tools let you connect all of your channels and create shoppable
01:03:25
posts so you can sell everywhere people scroll plus Shopify can help with the finer details of actually managing your
01:03:32
business like shipping taxes and payments all from one single dashboard businesses that sell more sell on
01:03:39
Shopify looking to upgrade your business sign up for your $1 per month trial period at shopify.com form all lowercase
01:03:47
so go to shopify.com form to upgrade your selling today shopify.com form all
01:03:53
right welcome back I want to present you guys with a rant SL take SL I'm probably
01:04:00
wrong and recency bias has frustrated me but I'm going to go on a rant anyways and you can tell me how wrong I am yeah
01:04:06
love it okay so I'm going to open it up with a comment I think therefore
01:04:11
presenting an argument to Congress in the state of our current technology in the year 2025 it is harder to watch
01:04:19
television than it was 15 years ago Counterpoint years ago Counterpoint
01:04:24
15ish years ago um I'm stealing this Counterpoint directly from David Pierce because he had this exact point on the
01:04:30
First cast sorry oh yeah okay um okay so it's just
01:04:38
cable again yes which is annoying because we we entered this state where it wasn't cable again and you could
01:04:45
watch things on like a couple platforms that was awesome and now there's so many platforms that it's like it's basically
01:04:51
Cable in but it is easier to watch because you can now watch it on more
01:04:57
things like you used to have a you used to have have to have like a satellite dish to be able to watch certain
01:05:04
channels yeah I agree I'm I think I'm most likely going to be wrong about this
01:05:10
but I think the vast majority of different things has created also this weird competition inside of where
01:05:17
everything gets posted that it's also caused issues so I'm I'm gonna tell my story okay very specific in the greater
01:05:26
metro area we have a sports channel that hosts four different sports teams it's
01:05:31
called MSG networks it hosts the Devils the Islanders the Rangers and the Knicks here this there are Cable packages
01:05:38
around here generally FiOS Xfinity Optimum and you have to have a the MSG
01:05:45
networks is feuding with like half of these cable networks so oh
01:05:50
gosh the only networks available in my home right now are Optimum and and
01:05:55
XFinity Ms networks is not on either of those so my options then start going to the internet I I think I have to be able
01:06:02
to watch a sports team there's so many different ways I can watch this now you go on the internet and there's things called blackouts because they're local
01:06:09
sports teams and they have these local things so my options then started turning
01:06:14
into ESPN plus has hockey games but since it's blacked out I have to run
01:06:19
through a VPN then ESPN is constantly trying to fix you being able to go through that so so my final decision
01:06:27
after the last three years of trying to do this is I bought Direct TV stream
01:06:32
because Direct TV still has um a partnership with MSG um but now that I'm streaming and
01:06:40
not just a cable plugged in I'm watching hockey overtime last night at what feels
01:06:46
like 360p because for whatever reason my 800 down internet is like nah this is a
01:06:52
little tough to watch right now like no matter what when you're streaming it feels like you have the opportunity of
01:06:58
buffering or low quality footage even our Internet's fast yeah and in live sports or anything live that's really
01:07:04
annoying yeah I can't just pause and let it buffer I'm trying to watch something live so I'm just so frustrated at the
01:07:12
point that I used to just be able to like plug my T like my TV just had a cable a coax cable plugged into it and I
01:07:18
watch live sports because everyone just carried live sports pretty much and now cable is like this insane thing of like
01:07:26
even if you have cable and has like the d uh like vods that half the time is like oh in
01:07:33
order to watch that you have to go log into peacock now or like you have to that's on Paramount plus we have all
01:07:38
these different streaming things everything is so segmented and the fact that there's all those different
01:07:44
segments now those companies are like making deals with everyone and not having the deals MSG just reported that
01:07:50
they're possibly going bankrupt soon and they're still not agreeing to terms with
01:07:56
Xfinity and Optimum to give people their packages so like they're literally dying
01:08:02
and still not I have no idea it's so frustrating and I think whether I could
01:08:08
watch it on my phone or my iPad or whatever I still think ultimately it's harder to watch I think that's a good
01:08:13
take and I think you're right and I resend my opinion yeah wait which side was David Pierce on he was basically
01:08:20
saying it's very annoying more convenient his guest was saying it is it
01:08:25
is easier to watch it in more places because you can be like at a friend's house and as long as they have internet
01:08:32
yes you still have to have the like right Cable Bundle but the cable is now not a cable it is now platform something
01:08:40
so it's easier to do in that sense but I agree with you that it feels like the
01:08:45
platforms that are carrying certain types of content are changing way more frequently there's having all these
01:08:50
deals happen behind closed doors and it's like even shows that you're like used to watching like oh was on Netflix
01:08:56
yesterday but now it's on Hulu where Netflix gets like the exclusive rights to stream like a a football game and
01:09:03
then Netflix doesn't know how to stream anything and that goes down or Amazon Prime now has like MLB on Thursdays or
01:09:09
whatever it's it's impossible to just watch the you sports games you it's like
01:09:15
you need to make like a 40 step flowchart but that flowchart needs to change every 3 days yeah yeah it's yeah
01:09:22
it's it's classic fragmentation it would be nice if you could just have one place to watch everything but that's a
01:09:27
monopoly yeah it's fragmented it's fragmented across a bunch of different services and sports is a perfect example
01:09:32
for that I tend to agree I happen to be able to get the channels that I need to watch the teams that I want to watch I
01:09:38
have risen FiOS and I don't watch that many MSG games but whenever I watch a
01:09:45
team it's typically on some channel so yeah yeah that is that is I think that's
01:09:51
fair there's a funny meme that's like oh I can't watch that I don't have this thing and then the response is like what
01:09:57
do you mean man it's literally on fubby you can watch it for the trial on hubu if you if you go to d.net you can see it
01:10:05
on TB accurate yeah yeah totally fair I don't know where all these random
01:10:10
streaming platforms popped up from like they all sound real that could have been the trivia question of like which of
01:10:15
these are real stream because literally it's like exclusively on tuu and you're like when was tuu a thing like I've
01:10:22
never heard of this it's tuub Super Bowl commercials there's going to be a couple more that you've
01:10:28
never even heard of glad next episode we Super Bowl so that's my rant I hope
01:10:35
some people in the tri state area feel me on that one because this MSG stuff's been what happens if MSG goes out of
01:10:41
business is M yeah but they have their own network as well who would get those
01:10:46
sell that you would sell it I thought the thing I read was that like Amazon might pick it up or something it's gonna
01:10:52
be on fuboo freebie easy just have a
01:10:57
trial I kind of hope they go out of business than I'm just saying but yeah it it almost feels like it's at the
01:11:03
point of like do you remember when lus is like I pay for games and then I pirate them yeah because I want to
01:11:09
support it or whatever and not do that but the pirating aspect is easier than actual just doing the what you're
01:11:15
supposed to do yeah dang yeah all right wow that's how we'll wrap this episode up okay go Devils Giannis or whatever I
01:11:24
don't know is that who got traded no honestly close enough okay close it's
01:11:30
basically like that yeah okay I'll take it I think it's time for trivia trivia so quick update on the
01:11:38
score okay Marquez with Five Points Andrew with two points David in the lead
01:11:46
with seven points not going to get these yeah all right first question do you
01:11:52
remember what the code name of the pixel 4A was the 21st day of
01:11:57
September do you remember I wish we had code names can we
01:12:04
have code names tibo ti
01:12:11
ti Tibby
01:12:16
shubu tu tu why do they all I've never I can't even I can't even think of a code
01:12:23
name because now all I'm thinking is like
01:12:28
flip him and read what do you got I wrote nothing you wrote nothing nope you
01:12:35
asked do you remember do you remember what the code name was so I wrote
01:12:41
no I don't good one though I put sailfish sailfish close it was sunfish sunfish at
01:12:50
first glance I thought you wrote Sunfish so I was ready to give you the point and then you said sailfish so yeah Google nexuses and pixels have always been fish
01:12:57
I kind of like the font you wrote in yeah what is that it's like tall it's short and tall at the same time it's
01:13:03
David Sans Sans David yeah that's funny because it kind of sounds like David's
01:13:09
hands which wrote the text anyway wow but if you type it then it's not my
01:13:14
hands true interesting David's Keys what year did Apple announce
01:13:21
iCloud and we're calling it iCloud
01:13:27
iCloud with iCloud you can get clouds in your
01:13:33
eyes isn't that just cry I almost wrote sailfish again you almost wrote the wrong answer
01:13:39
looking for a year I'll do closest Delta oh without going over no closest
01:13:47
Delta without going over fli and Reed what do we got I 2010
01:13:53
2010 I 2008 2008 Marquez I wrote 2005
01:13:58
was it 2009 was it 2009 the correct answer was
01:14:05
20111 David gets the point let's go did they announce it with iOS 5 well cuz
01:14:11
that's when they cuz that's when they added iMessage got added in 2011 so I'm wondering if
01:14:19
like iMessage only became possible because of iCloud it was announced at dubdub 2011 during the KE pretty sure
01:14:25
that's that was around the same time yeah that's when they announced iOS 5 okay fun did they have cloud storage
01:14:32
before iCloud like under a different name yeah the dinosaurs had cloud storage but they started them in actual
01:14:39
clouds oh mobile me dang it mobile me anyway okay that's it for this week's
01:14:45
episode uh let us know again if you have a pixel 4 a we're really curious we really want to know um hope
01:14:52
you're not listening on it yeah hopefully you're not like actively charging it but in your pocket thanks for uh thanks for watching thanks for
01:14:58
listening and we'll catch you very soon in the next one peace goodbye waveform is produced by Adam
01:15:05
Alina and Ellis Ren we're partner with VOX media podcast Network andu music with v s and stick around because one
01:15:10
day all five of us will actually be here Bing [Music]
01:15:29
if the quarterback throws the ball yeah and it doesn't get caught and it gets and it
01:15:36
hits the ground inet restarts yeah if the quarterback throws the ball and the
01:15:42
other team catches it before it hits the ground inter inter okay yeah I need that
01:15:47
one somebody who's not the quarterback starts running and the ball even the
01:15:53
quarterback running that's did right there if somebody drops the ball then the other team can pick it up fumble
01:16:02
recovery can go run interesting
