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the How Do You Train Your Dragon movie just looks like an animated movie that's yeah that's what's weird about it but I
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guess that's what's kind of cool is like it'll feel super uh on brand because
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it's already like that tooth list looks exactly the same just with like RTX on
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yeah yo what is up people of the internet welcome back to another episode of the waveform podcast we're your hosts
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I'm Marquez I'm Andrew and I'm David whoa all of us oh well we all here Alice
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is back yeah I'm chewing why do you have to do it right now we're all back and uh
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there's been a lot of stuff that's kind of all all over the map sort of uh unrelated stuff so what we're going to
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do is exactly what you think we're going to do with a whole bunch of unrelated stuff headlines in a hat we're just
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going to talk about that stuff cuz we have opinions and thoughts and hot takes about all of them it just the way form slack which is where we all post things
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over the week just felt like it was nonstop for like the last seven days just like leaks and rumors and teasers
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and all sorts of little small things that we will all cover today and then we're going to end with a Valentine's
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themed game that Adam where we all kiss for all
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you how'd you know I'm also realizing stay to the end I'm also realizing it's
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headlines in a hat and Andrew you're the only one with a hat I am the only one with so I think we have to use your hat we do but there is one thing I want to
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talk about before the Hat okay which is every year around this time we talk
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about things that happened at the Super Bowl because there's usually a lot of tech commercials at the Super Bowl true
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I found almost nothing interesting at the Super Bowl this year except for two small things that I want to bring up and
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if anyone has any else I the commercials were more boring than last year yeah I
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heard they were kind of bad Prett it was pretty crazy that open AI used Sora to generate their commercial though did
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they really no it was made by a guy W Afters um okay so the two things that I
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noticed M the scoreboard design was atrocious was atrocious it was awful
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it's it was polarizing I saw a lot of people saying it was great I didn't see a single person saying it was great I
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thought it was perfectly fine really that's where I landed it was definitely fine it wasn't terrible was it atrocious
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it was it was big it felt so like there's a point of minimalism where it
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just feels unfinished and that's what I I thought at points I was going to see the like PNG checkered background behind
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it like they had forgotten to actually like export it correctly I think that looks cool no I mean no it's not that so
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they had a they had a a very subtle dark gradient background behind it a little a
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little dark yes yeah it's just two boxes that say KC Phi I love that I think it's
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what I don't like is that the scores are inverted depending on what side you're looking at so it's kind of confusing to
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know how many points Philadelphia has what do you mean like it's based on the inside they put the score on the right
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for Kansas City and on the left for Philadelphia if you watch the game it wasn't confusing to know how many points
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Philadelphia it was very clear all right I think it's fine okay
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maybe I would like to hear what people think in the comments I thought it just felt super boring cuz there's so many
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other good animations and design throughout the game like at the desk they sat at they had this like these
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really beautiful their logos that were like had Sparkles and like things going
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on behind you wanted the logos I wanted anything something something it just felt so boring what if we tried to make
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these two teams look as similar as possible like what's the where's the where's the fun it red and one is green
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oh um okay my second one one commercial that I will talk about was the Gemini ad
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which was if you remember so it's it's essentially a a man standing in kitchen
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using Gemini to like practice for a job interview that he has coming up and it asks him the question of like what is a
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previous job and like how did you how did you feel successful in that and what he winds up describing is him being a
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dad and kind of like in job terms all these ways of like he worked with a small team and he worked long hours and
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all this stuff it was really adorable what he found product Market fit with his he really learned how to raise
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investor capital with his daughter but um investor capital is his daughter's
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name but maybe as a dad it felt really nice to me I thought it was well done
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but I can't help but think it's the culmination of learnings from their Olympic ad which was the exact opposite
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of like I have a daughter who wants to write a letter but I don't feel like writing it with her Gemini can you do it
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instead which they then pulled off they took that down yeah there's a lot of push back on it yeah I think they went
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from going let's do something very emotional that people will like to let's do something practical like a job
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interview but they no it was more emotional but the thing itself that he was using it for was a job
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interview actual task was not like help me raise my kids it was more fair point
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let me do a task so I thought it was really good I thought it was probably the best ad outside of like the Nike ad
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but after that I can't think of I think there was a Tim Robinson one later but I had stopped watching at that point I
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think I saw parts of it online CU Tim Robinson can make anything funny but the
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the Google commercial made me think of this comic that was getting like passed around Reddit and Twitter and blue sky
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and all that stuff by Tom Fishburn it's two panels and the first panel is this guy standing sitting in front of a computer and he says AI turns this
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single bullet point into a long email I can pretend I wrote and then the second panel is a different guy a different
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computer and she says AI makes a single bullet point out of this long email that I could pretend I read yeah yeah that's
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pretty awesome they should have just posted that for the Super Bowl ad yeah that would have worked pretty well honesty sells no it doesn't uh today is
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also a special day today is Valentine's Day 2025 by the time you're listening to
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this it's coming out on on Friday Valentine's Day 2025 which means that it
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is YouTube's 20th birthday it also means if you're
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listening to this at 5:00 a.m. on your Comm in audio wise you still have time
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to stop and get a card in flowers for whoever you forgot about you're welcome go get that done but I figured in uh in
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honor of YouTube's 20th birthday and I I've talked about YouTube a lot on this podcast usually pretty positively
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they're a very stable long lasting social network but this time no so this
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time you know they're not perfect obviously but I figured I would give you guys some things that are younger than
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YouTube so these are all things that didn't exist when YouTube was founded you might have already heard the story
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YouTube was originally a dating website it was founded uh so that you could upload videos of yourself as part of the
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experience online dating very interesting uh anyway things that were not around when YouTube started Valentine's Day 2020 20 2005 when it
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started vine Tik Tok that one's pretty obvious
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Instagram yeah Reddit Snapchat
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Zoom the iPhone and everything that came from that the App Store the iPad all
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that stuff WhatsApp Uber
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Airbnb I think the most surprising one is the iPhone and Reddit just feels like
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the internet or it used to feel like the internet now it feels like hot garbage but um yeah that one surprises me the
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most a lot of the yeah what you like Reddit surprises you most yeah I think
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so I remember when it came out and I was like this is sick I don't remember when it came out I remember when I started
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using it yeah and my friend that got me into it but there's a lot of social networks that started in like 2003 2004
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2005 that was right around that boom when a lot of them first the the mega sites got made like Gmail came up around
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then Facebook but yeah this is YouTube's still around arguably at the peak of its
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powers still 20 years later if it was a person who' be old enough to vote it's
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pretty sick if there's I need something in there that's like a a staple food item or like I need I need that didn't
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exist didn't spread Prime I don't have any food but I have a
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few more to add to this but I think are pretty good yeah um Spotify yeah the
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Nintendo Wii oh wow it's older than the Wii and get this there was the2 app
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Blu-ray discs oh yeah damn Blu discs were not around they came out the year
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after YouTube yeah and they've already gone to the waistline oh I have another
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one Windows Vista yeah cuz I remember I had XP and I
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was doing tutorials on how to make your XP computer look like it ran Windows Vista without actually running Windows
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Vista cuz Vista was bad yeah vist is one more the news feed on Facebook oh yeah I
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forgot they didn't have that at first G Facebook was a wild Place yeah I wasn't there walls were arguably the most
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confusing if if you pitched how old Facebook worked now you'd get nowhere
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because it made no sense at all yeah that's YouTube's 20th birthday it is one of the headlines currently in my hat so
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we'll skip that one when it comes out oh sure um but who would like to pick the first
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headline um where's where are the headlines they're in my hat how do I get
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them out you're currently wearing take that off not GL my head like Jo dir I'll take it wow Jo dirt with the Joe Dirt
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base wait what who's Joe Dirt Joe Dart wait what yeah I don't know I don't get
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that reference who is Jo a I will do it very quickly Joe dirt's this crappy movie with David Spade where when he's a
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kid he has like a head injury and they put this mullet wig on him and it like fuses to his head so for the rest of his
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life he has a mullet cuz it's fused to his head that is a bad movie plot it's not the whole plot uh it's pretty pretty
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much the plot actually just kidding so Andrew unfortunately I Got YouTube I already put the hat back no no no that's
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right no that's that's a different one oh that's different one cool okay so so the CEO of YouTube put out this sort of
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uh annual I guess it's annual a letter to creators where they talk about what they're doing what they're hopefully focusing on going forward and we
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couldn't help but notice that there was a solid focus on YouTube on TV how YouTube is growing on TVs how it's
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actually surpassed mobile so there's more YouTube ship on TVs than on
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smartphones which is pretty crazy but then I went and looked it up and you know this is obviously dependent on the
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audience and like where people are watching what type of stuff they're watching to me someone who does not
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watch any YouTube on TVs I thought this was fascinating I always hear about the living room experience YouTube Take not
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of the living room and this is like this is very interesting to me so I went and looked up the MKBHD Channel demographics
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mhm 45% mobile phone 27 1.2% computer 18
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1 12% TV 8% tablet so almost 20% of you
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watch MKBHD videos not the podcast but MKBHD it's almost exactly the same it's 21% for the podcast okay so about a
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fifth of you watch this on TVs oh I think that was about what I thought
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maybe a little higher than what I expected but then I went and pulled on Twitter just curiously and asked do you
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actually watch YouTube on TV and the three options I gave were all the time
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sometimes or rarely slash never and it was almost an even split it was almost an even split between yeah all the time
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what are you talking about I love watching YouTube on TV it's most a lot of people's replies were yeah I almost always watch YouTube on a TV and then a
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lot of other replies were I including me I can't remember the last time I put a YouTube video on a TV can I make an
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analogy with a hard enough cut so where Adam might be able to edit this part out
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yes you discovering that people watch YouTube on TV this often is like have
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you ever seen when two people talk about going to the bathroom and they're like you stand up to wipe you sit down to
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wipe and both people are amazed that the other option exist stand up to
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wipe no way that is like are you kidding me welcome to the waveform poop cast
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that is so disgusting that is so gross who does that or like do you wash your
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legs people like there's it's always shock your legs like people are shocked yeah see people are like do you wash
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your legs and half people are like wait no of course the water runs down exactly that's half the people and the other half of people are like no you wash
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obviously you wash your legs so there's two halves you realizing that people watch on their TV often to me and I saw
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Ellis's face before when you mentioned this like zero I watch so much of my
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YouTube on TV I would argue outside of work or when I like just happen to try
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and listen to YouTube videos as like a podcast in my car I'd say 90% of the
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YouTube I watch is on TV so described so you get home it's the living room TV you
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pop up on the couch and you grab that remote and you start typing with that
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Arrow key I mean do you every time you go and watch a YouTube video do you type in the search
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bar so much of his homepage subscription page um recommended afterwards it when
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you do have to do that it is a pain I think there's a lot of UI changes that could be way better I usually don't type
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you can talk on your remote um and it does a pretty good job voice recognition but I saw this great video the other day
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that I feel like kind of talks to this where it's like finally got home so I can turn on the big screen while I scroll my little screen as reward for uh
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looking at the medium screen all day yeah yeah but yeah I do it all the time that way I can look at my phone and do
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stuff I can have stuff up on the background or just like I have a nice TV
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know you have a nice TV I yeah like yeah I want I want to watch oh I agree I mean
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I so I have a lot of Home iPad YouTube use actually honestly my iPad is 50% a
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YouTube machine wow wait how real quick how often do you watch YouTube on your TV so I have a projector I don't have a
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TV let's count that as a TV sure Ellis okay you have projector
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running Android TV yeah yeah so that's that'll show up analytics as a TV yeah I
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watch almost exclusively YouTube on it so and I watch probably more YouTube on
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that than I do on my phone aren't you also a 2X person yes so you're guess I don't
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sitting back I guess I watch on my computer a lot too I will say my phone
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YouTube usage is not that high unless I'm like on the Subway or something or on an airplane yes same what about you
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two B I'm the same as David I pretty much exclusive ly watch YouTube on my TV
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uh so much so and this is a little embarrassing but um I have been known to
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watch shorts on my a little embarrassing it's
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notel I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm just sitting there but you know what are
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you doing if I go on the homepage and you
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know a short thumbnail catches my eye oh boy sometimes I'll click it do is there a short Carousel in absolutely YouTube
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TV get it's harder to get to there and you you feel like you're one of the guys in Wall-E you just point the remote of
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TV and down arrow down arrow down arrow yeah that is a lot okay Adam it's an
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experience I was looking through my YouTube just now to see if it gave me this information which it does not and I
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wish it did but I feel like I rarely watch YouTube on my phone anymore it's
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mostly on TV or computer those are the two that I'm split between yeah I would say I think our audience is skewed I'm
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sure a lot of our audience watches on phones versus TV because we're like such a phone focused Channel yes um I also am
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surprised one thing I don't watch on TV is podcasts I'm surprised we I think that would be the thing you watch the
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most on TV really how how many feet is your TV from your sink I was from the
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sink I was just going to ask everyone Ro over here I was going to ask everyone
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who watches YouTube on the TV or a projector how far away are you sitting from the screen 10 ft pretty close I
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have a pretty solid I have a solid living room so it's like across the room
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I just feel like if it's a big nice TV I like I when I'm I guess I'm the only one
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when I'm watching on my iPad that's the big nice screen in front of me and it's close enough to me that I can see and
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appreciate little details I'm watching reviews I'm watching like car videos tutorial random howto that like home gym
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build I sent you guys the other day it's like I shout out that channel cuz he was listening to way for in on his TV in I
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watched a home gym video I'll I'll we'll Link in the show notes and if you look in the background long enough you'll see a clip of the way for podcast so that
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was sick um but that's like me going watch in 4k and like full screen and
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like that's me enjoying a high reses why not do that on a TV cuz the TV is too
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far away what is your what okay for me to experience like by the time it's 10 15 ft away it's small again sounds like
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you need toig your TV or a smaller living room Optics to something it is I got the I
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got the food in front of me and then the I'm the iPad kid it's like right there wait even when you're eating and
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watching YouTube on the TV is like better my food will go cold sometimes so
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I'm trying to figure out what I'm watching but wow it's bad but the best
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way to do it that because like longer form content is like much more popular now than it used to be and is kind of
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the meta on YouTube that probably correlates with TV usage going higher
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because most of the content that I watch on my TV is like 25 minute videos about City development and stuff I think
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that's I think that's the sweet spot for TV because I think there's like hourlong podcasts that people throw on in their car and like mostly listen to it and I
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think there are short videos that people will scroll vertically on their phone but I think for like a 20 minute Meal Time video like the meal time subreddit
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videos videos 25 you guys send that to me later I that it's literally just like
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I'm about to sit down and eat let me watch a video that's about the length of it I put that onv interesting okay um
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there we go I I agree with you on the longer form stuff I think I've gotten like really into I watched uh like video
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game things whether it was like the making of the Lego Island Game a long time ago there's a documentary on
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YouTube about that it's really good and there's another one about I love that game Simpsons Hit and Run speedrun
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records which was really awesome um that's the kind of stuff and that means I can scroll on my phone at other times
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you're also on your phone also right now it means I can like if Lane's off to the side playing with something else I'm not
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like right in on my phone you play Pokemon TCG while you're while you're watching open documentary I learned a
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lot today oh wait I want to issue a challenge before this okay do back up
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until next podcast M if you are in your living room mhm and no one else is using
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the TV you have to watch any YouTube you want to watch on the
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TV okay yeah I mean okay just like experience it just experience it yeah
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I'll I'll play with the app look honestly anytime I use that app which is few and far between it's not very good
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like in order to change resolution which I habitually do every time I watch a video to Max it out it's a bunch of
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clicks mhm yeah versus uh mobile experience in their defense it's also a bunch of clicks on mobile you have to
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like click the little gear additional settings but it's all right there in front of me I'm just poking it versus
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like going on the remote anyway I'll I'll do it do it I want to hear next week what you think about it I don't spend a lot of time in the living room
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but if I if I do find myself there and I was going to watch it on the iPad watch
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it on the TV I feel like watching YouTube on mobile is such like an active experience versus you're holding cuz
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you're holding it or like it's right in front of you like you can't do anything else versus I feel like when I watch a
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lot of YouTube I'm kind of like relaxing so I'm lounging I'm kicking back on the couch and that's when I put on YouTube
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on the TV yeah I heard somebody describe it recently as sit back versus sit forward viewing like lean back oh I'm
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laying all the way down with a blanket on I am a on the couch blanket kind of guy I think the TV watching is mostly
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laying back and I think that's also what the iPad is for me but I think the lean
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forward computer TV or computer or smartphone experience is different and
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that's all really have locked down you know what's interesting about want you to relax man I feel like a couple years ago I remember listening to someone at I
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think read Hastings at Netflix something like that say like their main competitor is YouTube yeah and I remember like
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hearing that and be like okay like what are you talking about but I kind of an intention economy Neil says in here for
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the last two years they're the most watch streaming service yeah that's crazy on TVs that's the thing YouTube
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and we'll end on this YouTube is so massive they are both the number one watch streaming service and the number
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one podcast player which is why Netflix is exploring adding podcasts it's true
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yeah do you think they're going to compete with YouTube podcast they're going to try they don't have an explore engine quite like YouTube yet no but I
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bet you they're going to try to do what Spotify did getting like Joe Rogan exclusively they'll probably try to get
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a video podcast exclusively but I'm not going to like sit down for a commute and
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open the Netflix app for podcast people do it for the games people play the Netflix games I they actually I know
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they do but I I refuse to believe it I AG apparently the YouTube games are also
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popular I do see them when I scroll I've scrolled past them every single time I've never clicked on it but I see them
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they're no whoa they're pretty good you should play them God all right next headline okay also sorry I keep putting
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the hat back on but I have some pretty brutal hat hair and it needs to go back on it's headlin and a hat we got to got
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to pick another headline next headline uhoh the pixel 9A is leaked a little bit
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now usually pixels don't leak a little bit so this is kind of R experence yeah
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this never happens no there there's a couple colors the pixel 9A I guess we are expecting to see this come out
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around Google IO which is May didn't this rumor says March oh cuz the AC just
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announced the Google IO date as May 20th right May 20 oh so maybe before IO cool
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um well yeah in that case we we see the rumors it looks like it's mostly flat I don't know if you guys remember the
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essential phone but it's giving me ESS yeah Good Vibes to have in terms of look
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phone was thanks for clarifying it says that the rumor is a
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5100 millia hour battery on do you want me to just run through all the rumors I gathered up really quick sure okay again
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rumored by multiple different places so the the potential for anything here to change is very high but yeah four colors
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which are black white pink purple um essentially zero camera bump there is a
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little tiny camera bump but it is essentially flat two cameras um what I
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have the side rails are flat and it matches colors yeah sorry you guys are I just showed
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Ellis the picture of the purple one and he's out it looks very similar to the iPhone Mini that L has all um okay spec
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rumors 48 megapixel main camera 13 megap Ultra wide 13 megap selfie camera 5100
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mAh battery potentially 4 999 for the 120 gig model 5.99 for the 256 gig model
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6. in in 6.3 in screen 120 HZ refresh rate tensor G4 8 gigs of RAM so they did
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the thing that everyone's been asking for they just made the phone thicker put a bigger battery in and now there's no
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camera bump taada it's what we've beening for allegedly allegedly but that seems like
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I mean an easy way to be a crowd favorite 499 120 HZ still not tiny 6.3
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in screen but you know people want big phones so big battery yeah I'm not mad I
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think it looks cool yeah I think it looks good so are we in the position again where it's like why would you buy the pixel 9 just like we were last year
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when it was why would you buy the pixel 8 when the 8A is well how much can you buy Pixel 9 for right now I guess that's
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a valid point probably the same price the difference would be maybe some
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camera stuff it's they both have the tensor G4 right they're going to have different cameras they're both going to
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be 120 Herz they're going to be similar screen sizes pixel 9 128 right now is
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649 on the Google store but there's a President's Day sale going on as well
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the pixel 9 battery is also only 4700 millah hours while the pixel rumored 9A
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is 5100 so this is probably going to be a pretty sick battery if it does end up being this
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and correct me if I'm wrong pixel 9 triple cameras or double only dual okay so they're both dual cameras and an
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ultra wide yeah great yeah okay it's 640 the pixel 9 is currently 649 on Amazon
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it's $150 off I have a hot take so if this pixel 9A ends up being even halfway
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decent is this phone of the year it's definitely made a choice that
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qualifies it for phone of the year which is like that thing we've all been asking for of just make a thicker phone yeah
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last like three days but it's February could be awesome it is it is early but I mean it's never too early to start
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it's first three games of the NBA season we've got like an MVP ladder of like who's the MVP this season it's been
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three games we have no idea but I think uh in our way too soon Power Rankings a phone of the Year technically OnePlus 13
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came out last year yeah so it doesn't qualify but it kind of set the tone but this would be like be like uh Luca's got
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a chance of winning MVP because he he might score I don't even know how much is a lot of s rumor these are rumors it
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doesn't even exist but he's saying if it does come out like this it would be a it would yeah it qualify Luka also wasn't
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the affordable option so w they got a hell of a deal so I guess they kind of was I guess they had a good trading deal
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for L tra deal exactly that's fair all right I like it next headline that's the
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20th birthday one so I'll throw that out rivan teas I remember my 20th
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birthday rivan teasers yes so rivan tweeted out yesterday I believe so this
00:27:32
is also kind of rumors yeah it's just a tweet that says February 19th sign up for updates and four photos the four
00:27:39
photos are sand with tire marks in it okay a sand dune with what feels like
00:27:45
spikes coming out of it okay a black and white photo of essentially like the
00:27:51
bottom of arivan driving through the sand and then the last one is a view through a gear tunnel to see dudes this
00:27:59
is either one of two things one it's either a crazy unannounced new vehicle
00:28:07
like an r2t yes or what I hope it is or it's an extremely underwhelming like random like
00:28:15
Desert Drive event that you can attend oh I was going to say sorry don't they have a soft sand drive mode on the r1t
00:28:21
yeah so what if they're just releasing like a hard sand drive mode that would be even more underwhelming yeah I
00:28:28
here's my underwhelming guess which is uh some addition to the rivian adventure
00:28:35
Network or rivan Waypoint charging system that's in a national park that has to do with sand so maybe or Great
00:28:42
Sand Dunes National Park um because they have one in y70 already they had a cool
00:28:47
announcement for it they hyped it up a lot that like rivian's whole vibe is kind of like being able to Adventure
00:28:54
more they wanted to add more to National Parks cuz those are harder places to get an V to because of lack of charging
00:28:59
stations so I wonder if this is going to be an addition to a national park that has sand dunes yeah I'm like I'm trying
00:29:07
to read just like how we like look at Apple event invites and like read way too far into it this is four Images so
00:29:13
I'm going to overanalyze to the max the four Images right M first of all if you click the
00:29:18
link and it says sign up for updates if you click the link it says sign up for updates on upcoming product launches special events and what's next for rivan
00:29:24
so this is either a product launch a special event or what's next for rivan right okay the fourth photo is a gear
00:29:30
tunnel MH so this will in some way involve a pickup truck not the R2 not
00:29:37
the R3 it has to be either r1t or some other pickup truck right all four photos
00:29:43
have sand in them MH so the theme Here is clearly the desert and the sand and something with this
00:29:50
environment and I think that's as far as you can go which means it's either one a special event where you can drive them
00:29:57
on Sand or or two a new product that specifically involves driving on Sand
00:30:03
which seems unlikely so I'm going to go with special events I have another theory the only photo in which they
00:30:09
actually show any of the body of the car is in black and white so what if it's just a special color like a sand color
00:30:16
the other question was is this just them reann ancing the quad motor rivan like the r1t quad which is the only one that
00:30:24
you can get with the blue colored brakes I believe they have the like yellow Accent on the
00:30:30
launch edition and the blue Accent on the quad so maybe it's black and white to hide the blue but the brakes aren't
00:30:35
shown in the photo that's true just the body can I give you why I think it's a
00:30:40
charging Network a charging yeah based on the photos photo one tire marks in the sand yep being able to drive towards
00:30:48
the sand which could be a Great Sand Dunes National Park checks out okay um gear tunnel looking at this I mean most
00:30:54
of this has to do with like look there are the sand dunes you can go to this place it's outside of you the photo with
00:31:01
the spikes popping up and the Shadows those are charging stations rising from
00:31:07
the Sands there's no scale to this photo like there is no scale to this photo those are charging stations rising from
00:31:13
the Sands to introduce the new charging Network Place well I mean we're being a
00:31:18
little abstract here oh okay I thought this was just them announcing that the next Dune movie will have a
00:31:24
Riv all I'm saying is that they don't have a s s colored rivan
00:31:30
currently so I bet you they're probably going to announce a sand colored rivan a
00:31:35
CI rivan would be pretty sweet I'd be into that I want it to be r2d I want it
00:31:41
to be the Maverick rivan we should place bets but there's just no way sand color
00:31:46
I'm going with either special event or sand mode sand mode yeah like the hard sand sand mode this is too much of an
00:31:53
announcement for sand mode I think no they would do that but is it too much announc col yeah I think that's more
00:32:00
visually pleasing than sand mode I think the tire tracks imply it's more than a color so it's something to do with
00:32:07
driving in the sand it's either the quad or a driving in the sand event
00:32:13
or or sand mode that's all I got so you're saying sand mode David you're
00:32:20
saying sand color yeah Andrew what are you saying uh rivan uh what is it called rivian
00:32:27
Adventure Network or they're not all cuz technically the one in US isn't rivan Adventure Network it's just a rivan
00:32:34
waypoint but charging system inside of some popular charger like sand based
00:32:40
National Park I actually could see it being quad because quad on the buy page is the only one that's coming 2025 yeah
00:32:47
quad's not it could very well be quad motor yeah and they're just saying you need the quad motor to drive through sand for some reason yeah maybe the quad
00:32:53
motor launches with sand mode maybe that's what it is and you can experience the drive in this s naal Park where
00:32:58
we're also launching a new charger boom we all got it right you're right you know what it's probably that
00:33:05
it's probably I don't think they're launching the charger but we'll see we'll see well we should take a quick
00:33:10
break we got way more headlines in Andrew's hat Believe It or Not uh but before we get there trivia
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slack yesterday that Urban Outfitters is selling iPods real iPods and we were like what the heck and then uh turns out
00:33:57
they were refurbished by retrospect like first gen iPod Nano and no iPod Shuffle
00:34:03
and iPad Nano I think no it was the mini mini yeah are they they're not new right
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they're like refurbished they're refurbished yeah they might they probably I don't want to say anything without knowing but I would imagine they
00:34:13
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retrospect sells like a 100 things on Urban Outfitters oh like almost their whole inventory on uran Outfitters or
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like retro Outfitters am I right go retrospect anyway it comes with the 30
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00:34:40
retrospect stuff on here they Ru that was awesome cool all right trivia I
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missed a few weeks I was on vacation uh but I wanted to come back with a classic
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Ellis Banger question so tell me guys which of the following
00:34:58
companies is not real and instead of giving you a description of what they do I'm just going to read you the company's
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Twitter bio okay these are all tech companies a ski sell subscriptions
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without ripping your hair out B fruit f o t Swift conversion automate Legacy
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migration ship faster c k k e a k k we
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are automating conversion rate optimization or D coo giving Canadians
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the tools and knowledge to make their money grow I made up one of those made up one
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of those SK fruit Kik or coo Kiki just watch it on hibl yeah what
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about dooo W woo wooo you watch doooo standing up no I watched on p
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to headlines in hat we've got more headlines in Andrew's hat they could say anything they're from the past week
00:38:35
David far away here we go are you ready yeah Power Beats Pro
00:38:43
two I keep forgetting to write the actual headline I just write what we're going to talk about so maybe this I
00:38:49
should fix that next time but Apple announces Power Beats Pro two power be
00:38:55
Pro two uh my new favorite head phones yeah I wanted to ask you about that oh wait do we have them I want else to
00:39:01
listen should I go get them yeah camera you thre them away no I
00:39:06
they're my favorite headphones ever I them I I mean so we reviewed them they
00:39:11
are the sequel to The Power Beats Pro that came out 5 years ago I reviewed those five years ago very positively
00:39:17
they're in a lot of ways to me to me better than airpods Pro they stay in my ears better they had better battery life
00:39:25
they're more durable um fast forward to 5 years later and you know for 250 bucks
00:39:30
which they came out at you're not trying to buy like a Lightning Charge like non-wireless charging old uh set of
00:39:36
earbuds so they came out with the SQL and they're basically uh better in every
00:39:42
imaginable way they are the same exact launch price but they added noise cancellation and transparency mode and
00:39:48
adaptive EQ and spatial audio and the H2 chip they are still ipx4 certified the
00:39:54
case is smaller the battery life is longer and charges more and has USB
00:39:59
type-c and has wireless charging and has better colors and the buds are lighter and more comfortable and they sound
00:40:06
better they did everything did you already mention heart rate tracking and they heart rate tracking which is
00:40:11
actually kind of the least important thing but it's cool it's convenient if you don't have a if you don't have an Apple Watch then it's like if you if you
00:40:18
work out that much that you're buying $250 earbuds to work out in I strongly suspect you already have a heart rate
00:40:24
tracking solution totally but if you happen to not have one okay then then yeah you can do that too can I play
00:40:29
Super I think they're great I do really like them if I can play super quick Devil's Advocate yeah all of all of
00:40:38
those things are like the bare minimum of what a good pair of uh truly wireless earbuds needs right now like it's it's
00:40:44
adding all this stuff because 5 years ago it was like on the verge of if everything needed those but like at this
00:40:51
point any pair of truly wireless earbuds that are over $100 should have active
00:40:56
noise cancelling and transparency mode and like half of the things you just mentioned totally true I think
00:41:02
qualitatively after you get like passive spec sheet it's like these have really good noise cancellation they're a a
00:41:09
smidge below airpods Pro but like overall they sound really good the sound character is fun like when I work out
00:41:16
I'm listening to like I'm bumping like like good like hip-hop and beats and things like that and I I don't mind the
00:41:21
extra flavor in the sound and the be the bass is strong and they're loud I love that they're very able too so they stay
00:41:28
in my ears which is already pretty impressive to me and then they stay sealed in my ears which is another thing
00:41:34
so like airpods Pro will stay in my ears but the seal will like slowly weaken over time because of the rubber tips
00:41:40
these with the hooks they just stay in my ears they stay sealed they sound great the battery lasts like almost a a
00:41:48
month arguably with two-hour workouts every single day it's awesome uh so
00:41:53
qualitatively on top of the specs they're just fun they're great I like them so the color is awesome I think
00:41:59
they're super comfortable electric orange is one of the colors there's also a purple color black and white also
00:42:05
options if you're a little more lowkey hyper purple is the hyper purple color nice um I'm saying this to someone who
00:42:11
my current favorite earbuds are the Beats fit Pro cuz I don't like the whole hook but I do like the wing tips of it I
00:42:18
like I love something I love about these which is my least favorite thing in truly wireless earbuds are I want it to
00:42:25
be physical some sort of physical button not touch control stuff cuz anytime you adjust in your ears I hate that so Beats
00:42:33
fit Pro is a physical button these have an up and down switch on both sides and physically PR like you have to actually
00:42:40
press in the button where the a clicking button yeah yeah so you the volume up off the top and then if you tap the
00:42:47
Beats logo that's your play pause if you hold it that's your switch to transparency or noise cancellation and
00:42:53
it's an actual click that you can feel um oh it's in my backpack I also like that you don't have to cuz
00:42:59
what I don't like about the ones you like Andrew the Beats Pro Fit Pro is that when the wing tips
00:43:07
eventually start hurting my ears but maybe that's just my ears that's yeah I think that's a personal thing yeah yeah but the other thing is that the the
00:43:14
physical button you have to push it into your ear which usually also hurts my ears so I like that these have buttons
00:43:20
on the side of them so that you kind of like click them there still is one you can see right here well it's almost the
00:43:26
same Button as the but it still the two volume butt on I do think these the hook for if the wing tip
00:43:34
hurts inside your ear I think the hook will be the it's more comfortable it's more comfortable and feels like it's
00:43:41
going to stay there for sure I have a question about the using of these headphones so one of the issues I have
00:43:47
with my airpods Pro is that sometimes I'll throw the the airpods back into case and it just won't charge and I
00:43:54
won't know that until the next time I pick them up like occasionally one of them will just like be loose or
00:44:00
something and then one earbud will be charged up to 100% the other one's like 29% or whatever um I've had that
00:44:06
experience also with earbuds like this that have the hook because it's more things that could potentially get caught
00:44:12
on like the case and like not properly hit the the magnets correctly or like whatever us charge yeah the contact did
00:44:19
you have any of that when you were using this like is it kind of annoying to put it back in no so the case I think
00:44:24
improved a lot of things the magnets are strong when I put put them back in it was like pretty obvious when they would
00:44:30
lock into place and I think if you if you didn't quite get them right and try to close the case it wouldn't close so
00:44:36
then I correct them and then close it and it would close you'd know they're charging um and that was the other thing is like they had this feature where if
00:44:43
you put the like let's say they die and you put them in the case for like five minutes that gets you 90 minutes of
00:44:49
listening time which sounds really convenient but also in what world are you just letting the earbuds die like
00:44:57
like outside of the case like you take them out of your ears and just like put them down that's what I mean that's what
00:45:02
happens to me because I think it's back in the case but the case didn't close correctly or something and that's what ends up happening no if you put them in
00:45:07
the case these I mean I had no issues they seem to charge every single time perfectly and then I kept forgetting to
00:45:14
test battery life because I would habitually get done with them and put them back in the case be like oh dang it they're 100% again like I forgot because
00:45:20
they just charge to 100% every time so yeah the battery was just like something I didn't have to think about at all how
00:45:26
are the ANC and transparency modes so I would say if airpods Pro 2 is a gold
00:45:32
standard 10 out of 10 for transparency mode uh these were an eight and a half
00:45:38
okay pretty great transparency mode but but they have the H2 chip they do and I think that that's a little bit to do
00:45:44
with like a physically different driver and maybe different microphone Arrangements like it's not exactly the same as that was my followup question is
00:45:51
how are they different cuz they look so similar I mean shapewise they are different they don't have a stem so the
00:45:57
micr are so they are processing it with the same chip but maybe with not exactly
00:46:03
the same results real quick I'm not going to listen to these okay on the podcast and the reason is is remember a
00:46:12
few months ago I put out a video about speakers and kind of like the big gist of the video is like the driver is
00:46:18
really important in a speaker but so much of how a headphone sounds or how any speaker sounds is about the cabinet
00:46:25
right like the Box the speaker in that resonates all these low frequencies spits out frequencies does all sorts of
00:46:31
stuff when you put a an inar earbud with a gel tip in your ear people talk about
00:46:38
the seal being really important right that seal we can call acoustic coupling
00:46:44
and that means now you have like this this chamber that energy doesn't leak out of the the your ear canal and the
00:46:51
earbud itself have effectively formed this closed area boom that function a
00:46:57
lot like a speaker cabinet but everyone's head is a different
00:47:03
shape and the inside of everyone's head is an even more different shape I hear
00:47:09
that the the ear is as unique as your fingerprint exactly so think about all the weird length differences and angle
00:47:16
differences and all the different ways someone's ear canal could be shaped that has a ginormous impact on the way
00:47:23
earbuds are going to sound so two people could wear the exact same earbuds and one person could say the b in these
00:47:29
isane and the other person could say these literally have no B and they would
00:47:34
both be right I have a question about that yeah is it so that's I that makes
00:47:40
intuitive sense would it also make intuitive sense that once they're
00:47:45
calibrated to their own ear that the differences in either direction will stay the same so if one person thinks
00:47:51
the Beats have no Bas and one person thinks they have a ton of bass and then I give them both the shocks earphones
00:47:57
which have more bass will they both hear more
00:48:02
bass I think and I don't know this is like sort of a pretty intense question but I I'm
00:48:10
inclined to answer with it there's more there's too many
00:48:16
asterisks to for there to be one answer to that question right like like what frequencies are the dominant frequencies
00:48:23
of the material you're listening to what what key is the song in so therefore what is the lowest fundamental note you
00:48:29
will hear you know because it's not about you can describe it as more Bas less Bas but it it's also as like your
00:48:36
ear canals have a bend that make them resonate more at 50 htz whereas mine
00:48:41
resonate more at 65 Herz MH and depending on what key the song is in we
00:48:47
could perceive more or less base yeah cuz there are there are reviews of certain headphones that definitely are
00:48:53
very basey where universally everyone's like oh yeah the these have a ton of Bas and I like them
00:48:59
because of that like I have songs that I listen to where there's a ton of subbase and I listen to on these headphones and it sounds great and you read the reviews
00:49:05
and everyone's like yeah these are really Bassy so there's some sort of directional agreement even though
00:49:12
everyone's probably sound slightly different per person yeah so I listen to
00:49:17
these beats and I think these sound really good I I don't say that about Beats very much it's been you know years
00:49:23
of reviewing beats and I I'm finally saying beats sound like exactly how I want them to so that's great um so
00:49:29
that's why I like them no and it's also why earbud arguments literally drive me up the wall because the true answer of
00:49:35
what the best sounding true Wireless earbud is the one that sounds best to you literally there's there is an ie
00:49:41
standard for measuring the frequency response of earbuds and in some respects frequency response is more important
00:49:48
from an earbud than a speaker because there's no room but at the same time it's actually way less important because
00:49:54
we have rooms built into our Noggin and everyone's is different anyway because someone could say the Power Beats Pro
00:49:59
two are all about that Basse and no trouble but another person might say that it's all about that trouble with no
00:50:05
base that's what you're saying exactly it's interesting uh I really wish I had something that clever question yeah did
00:50:12
the original Power Beats have adaptive EQ no do you think that's why it sounds a little better the constant monitoring
00:50:19
with microphones an Adaptive EQ mode very much so it's a third mode so there's
00:50:24
noise cancelling mode transparency mode and adap EQ mode oh interesting um in adaptive EQ mode where it's not doing
00:50:30
all of the noise cancelling stuff the battery life is the longest 10 hours a charge if you doc or transparency
00:50:37
something like eight hours of charge or sorry I said 10 for the first one eight for that um I mostly listen with noise
00:50:43
cancelling on because it just it's good enough and this is to answer your previous question like if airpods Pro
00:50:49
are a 10 out of 10 I know they're not but let's say that's where they're at these are also like an eight so they will get rid of white noise mostly and
00:50:56
they're best at that but you'll still get keyboard sounds and like other handling sounds I realized in the in the
00:51:03
video when you said that it was like keyboard sounds might come through and I was like he's talking about my keyboards which might be a little louder than 20
00:51:10
to the left of you that that will make it through yeah but uh I I think in general if you're turning the music up
00:51:17
and you have the andc on you're just going to hear music so yeah can I say one last thing about these mm whoever
00:51:23
designed the website did a great job cuz David's been spinning around the virtual F it's basically a fidget it's basic
00:51:31
there's a 3D like version that you can look at uh and whatever angle you're at when you change color it snaps back to
00:51:37
the original it's really well done very nice wow that's pretty good way better than Apples webs next headline wait wait
00:51:44
wait just okay preliminary findings um they both have the same inside the Ear
00:51:50
Optical sensor just the Power Beats is rotated 90° the uh heart rate
00:51:57
Optical sensor not present on this guy airpod rumor that the next airpods might
00:52:02
get one I could totally see that the vents are different uh big big giant
00:52:08
vent on the side of the airpods pro not present on here I can't even find the internal microphones on this thing like
00:52:15
the the microphones that listen yeah I think they're behind the mesh possibly I think what we need is for someone like
00:52:23
uh Zach or I fix it to to do a tear down on these and then I'll be able to tell
00:52:31
you more about if it's just a rehoused airpod pro too but um I like the orange
00:52:38
the orange is really nice the Orange is sweet electric that is Ellis's audio Corner AIO aren't you guys
00:52:45
so happy I'm back next headline next headline it's hat time is it me it's you all right a few left do ala interviewed
00:52:53
Tim Cook this headline this headline say says boomless supersonic plane we just
00:53:00
finished one rant right into the no I'm not I'm not ready for this rant I am ready for this cuz I'm I'm kind of a fan
00:53:07
I talked about it on the last podcast we did talk so the update so the supersonic plane that's being developed and tested
00:53:13
in public and making all these headlines had another update and the update was that and I don't know if this is unique
00:53:20
to this plane but essentially they've found that there's an altitude and a speed that you can fly where you can fly
00:53:26
super Sonic and not cause an audible boom on the ground boom now for those of
00:53:32
you who may remember Concord right now or maybe you're just a a nerd and you
00:53:37
watch it on YouTube videos you probably know that an airplane flying fast and the speed of sound creates a Sonic Boom
00:53:46
on the ground which is it passes by you and then at some point later the sound wall catches up and this high pressure
00:53:52
wave hits you and it's a boom and it's kind of annoying if you're just living in an area area where you hear booms all
00:53:57
the time I used to live right above an Air Force Base oh wow where you lived above the Air Force Base yeah not Below
00:54:04
on on the Mountaintop with the rattlesnake Den we were right above be Air Force Base yeah so I heard Sonic
00:54:09
booms like every day okay so perfect example so that's an that's that's a downside to supersonic plans the upside
00:54:15
is you can go from here to London in two hours or whatever the downside is people on the ground having to deal with loud
00:54:21
booms that may even damage things or like break windows or be really annoying to pets
00:54:27
so the science is that there is a cut off speed and altitude where you can fly
00:54:34
and essentially because of refraction in the atmosphere and temperature and a bunch of other factors the supersonic
00:54:39
the boom actually bounces off the bottom of the clouds or bounces off and back
00:54:45
into the air and doesn't reach the ground the point is it doesn't reach the ground so it depends on temperature and it
00:54:52
depends on where you're flying and the and a bunch of other factors consistent
00:54:57
uh it's not going to be perfect every single time but the fact is the fact is this exists this this rough area SLP
00:55:05
speed slash combo exists where you can fly Supersonic and not cause a Sonic
00:55:13
Boom on the ground I'm just trying to stall as much as I can while Ellis furiously types into Wikipedia FL going
00:55:20
to get delayed because it could cause the sonic boom if it's too warm look most of these flights are over the ocean
00:55:25
so it's actually not that big of a problem but if you're doing you know here to La that's Overland so they've
00:55:31
got to fly in an area and an altitude where ideally it's not an issue but yeah the fact that you can do that at all is
00:55:38
pretty SI there's a strong irony to the fact that the company is called boom and uh their whole thing is how they're
00:55:45
boomless yeah so boomless they should just have called themselves boomless I think the Sonic the Sonic Boom is famous
00:55:51
for like old like fighter jet videos on YouTube you've probably seen them and and you've experienced them real life
00:55:56
but yeah sonic boom's pretty crazy they're annoying to see to to have a
00:56:02
boomless Super Sonic Craft is is also great before uh suponic booms were
00:56:08
popular because uh Chuck Jager famously broke the sound barrier and stole my
00:56:13
childhood um when he bought my Road thank you I was going to say you're going to have to explain that question yeah Chuck at this point it's lore but
00:56:22
uh my dad was living in the area the first time the uh Sun was broken and he
00:56:27
said everyone called in to the like local news stations cuz they thought aliens were invading cuz they never heard of Sonic Boom before yeah so
00:56:34
everyone freaked out so yeah that's terrifying if you have no idea what's going on yeah you just hear in the sky
00:56:40
like yeah it just basically sounds like yeah you we can play a clip of it you'll you'll understand yeah so yeah exciting
00:56:47
I also have no idea if this plane will ever actually be real or if anyone will ever actually ride in one oh there goes the headlines you can't take the hat off
00:56:55
over and over uh yeah so that's my that's the update I know nothing else about this other than the science is
00:57:01
pretty sick boomless I'm a fan of not the company but the science that they keep exposing us all to very cool that's
00:57:07
so meia works very cool uh just this drives me insane this story
00:57:15
has been like eating me away because there's they're doing the the Silicon Valley thing where they're
00:57:21
like we changed everything and we're like great and they're like that's it
00:57:27
period we'll see you next year and it's like nothing else I have a feeling that the way you feel about this company is
00:57:33
similar to the way I feel about startup EV companies I would
00:57:39
H here's what I'll here's what I'll say the the the plane that flew this week
00:57:45
and got retired this week is called the xp1 it is their proof of concept
00:57:50
aircraft they said they flew Mach 1.14 at about 35
00:57:56
ft and uh and there were no audible Sonic booms from the ground and
00:58:04
um that's great so now they're going to fur continue development on uh their
00:58:11
actual airliner called Overture uh in order to do that they need to develop their own uh I think they're going with
00:58:18
a low bypass turbo fan engine that they're calling Symphony uh that they
00:58:23
have to develop thems because all the major engine manufacturers were like we can't do that we don't
00:58:29
um busy making 747 we will see I did think it was
00:58:34
interesting that they did a lot of this with the xb1 with off-the-shelf
00:58:40
parts um specifically the General Electric I think it's the J
00:58:45
[Music] 85-15 After Burner variant I don't know
00:58:50
we'll see I'm I'm curious uh and if you're an aviation
00:58:56
engineer and want to talk about the mock cut off effect and help me understand why you don't need like a 50ft nose cone
00:59:03
to get it uh please let me know because I am not an aerospace engineer and I'm confused you did forget one other thing
00:59:09
and it's the new plane they're developing also live translates I was gonna say I was literally G to say Ellis
00:59:16
three words Microsoft Live translation yeah how do you feel yeah you're right
00:59:21
that uh if you read their website which is like very much me not caring about
00:59:27
the product anymore and just reading the science boomless cruise is what they're calling it but basically suic travel
00:59:32
without the boom hitting the ground is possible between certain ranges of speeds depending on conditions yes and
00:59:39
so they're saying like oh yeah we could get you to La maybe 90 minutes faster with no boom if the conditions are right
00:59:44
but if we're going over water we don't care about the boom and we could go mock 1.5 or something I think it was in
00:59:50
between 1.7 and two is what they're shooting for is that am I right about that yeah I'm yeah I here's the thing
00:59:57
right did you watch the live stream no I haven't watched any actually I watched a replay and I scanned through it for like
01:00:03
5 Seconds yeah yeah yeah it was fine I just felt like they were doing their
01:00:08
best SpaceX impression 100% yeah that's what I got to and I was just sort of like is this you know what whatever
01:00:17
Great Space congratulations I feel like the live of that SpaceX caught a rocket
01:00:24
they're flying a plane that doesn't produce the thing that we would see
01:00:29
anyways boom live speed tracker thing so oh they're supersonic now that's cool
01:00:36
Counterpoint though Andrew the test pilot that works for boom is named
01:00:42
jepetto and so during the whole live stream they were like I think chapeto is about to hit the afterburners which I
01:00:47
just thought sounded really really silly that's a great sentence Counterpoint to your Counterpoint I know nothing about
01:00:53
aeronautics all right so I can't contribute any hear me out faster flights that would be you
01:01:02
in you in hear me out driverless cars next year his name his name is
01:01:08
Tristan his name is not jepetto jepetto is just jepetto is his nickname they
01:01:14
call him jepetto and on the stream they were like jepetto he's hitting the after but no his name is actually Tristan
01:01:19
refer to him as jepetto no no no no but I just didn't want you know I just didn't want to be like there's this guy jepetto and mean while Tristan's out
01:01:26
there like Angry sorry Tristan yeah all right next headline next headline Oppo Find
01:01:34
N5 wait do we have it oh yeah I should have brought it well you can we can show it if we
01:01:40
don't turn the screen on it it makes no difference I can't no we can't okay here's okay here's the headline and this
01:01:46
is literally the headline Oppo Find N5 is revealed to be the world's thinnest
01:01:53
book style foldable that's all we get that's all we get and
01:01:58
so I got this email I got the device I got uh someone reaching out from from
01:02:03
Oppo and so I have the phone and what we are allowed to show SLC confirm is that
01:02:10
it is in fact very thin we are not allowed to show the device with the
01:02:15
screen on we are actually only allowed to show either photos that they have
01:02:20
provided for us or our own photos now this is a video podcast
01:02:26
I tried to convince Marquez to put it on video and just say video a bunch of
01:02:32
photos that's I with you I am with you I'm airing on the safe side here because
01:02:37
30 pictures every second is just where we're at right now pictures but fine okay uh it is very thin it's gotten me
01:02:44
pondering a whole bunch more thoughts and feelings about it but I can't really get into those because all we can really talk about is wow very thin it's super
01:02:51
thin the other thing is um if you look at these pictures there's a slight slly modified USB type-c port on this thing
01:02:58
that's basically the entire thickness of each side of the book foldable it's like 42 mm Counterpoint
01:03:05
Counterpoint it's full of them today Microsoft Surface Duo it feels super
01:03:11
similar to the launch of that the Embargo okay this is inside baseball Microsoft Surface Duo I talked about it
01:03:17
in the video oh did you okay yeah when I reviewed it famously uh very annoying
01:03:23
embargo on this phone I think it has three phone quote unquote phone yeah three
01:03:29
yeah had like three embargos we had an embargo where we could show the hardware but not turn the screen on mhm and then
01:03:35
there was a separate embargo where you could actually review the device I think it was like a first impressions embargo
01:03:40
and then the full review embargo which I cuz I think the second one you couldn't show photos from it small things like
01:03:48
that now Oppo is obviously on the fifth version of its F Den devices I seriously
01:03:54
doubt that them making it thinner is going to make it as buggy and horrible
01:03:59
as the original surface Duo so it's probably fine yeah but it always feels a
01:04:04
little bit weird it is a huge red flag yeah when they're like you can show pictures of the hardware but not talk
01:04:11
about anything else it is designed to create a wave of headlines in one style before a wave of headlines in another
01:04:17
style yeah the first wave of headlines is this is a very thin phone uh Verge brought up a good point too that they
01:04:23
were very specific in calling it the world thinnest book style foldable
01:04:29
because yes while closed it is still thinner than the M XT while open each
01:04:34
individual segment the MXT is thinner the triple fold phone the triple fold phone sorry wow so the triple fold each
01:04:41
one of those slices is a little thinner but I will
01:04:46
say it is thin it is thin can confirm it is thin
01:04:52
we're going to have the same conversation about the Galaxy S2 25 slim Edge Ed yeah when comes out yeah
01:05:00
that's a weird thing that's happening this year is like that is happening there's a rumor of the iPhone 17 air
01:05:07
happening and maybe one or two other like ultra thin phones which is funny because we just finished talking about
01:05:12
the pixel 9A being like finally what we wanted a thicker phone uh yeah assuming all these
01:05:18
companies are using the new battery cell technology that allows you to pack more energy in a smaller package they're
01:05:23
probably just making thinner batteries that have this same amount of capacity as existing phones which is not what we
01:05:29
want we want the same size but with better battery lights C Oppo Find 13 or
01:05:35
C OnePlus 13 review exactly you say that but when this thin Samsung phone comes
01:05:40
out I bet it's going to be sick here's my question cuz I it sounds like you're optimistic about that phone I'm very
01:05:46
optimistic do you think this is going to be priced ultra high no you don't think so I don't think so cuz the way they
01:05:51
teased it and they were like this is going to be an amazing phone it's the edge and we're bring bringing it back to
01:05:56
me sounds like it's going to be an $1,100 phone I think it'll be $1,100 I
01:06:02
think it'll be like $900 something like that because they're not saying it's going to be like the ultra or something
01:06:07
you know like it's not like giving you any crazy performance it's like you're getting this because it's thin where do
01:06:12
you think so but we don't think it's going to be like a $500 phone no I don't think so do we think the iPhone 17 air
01:06:19
is also in that upper echelon I think that's what I think 17 air will be in
01:06:24
the iPhone plus category I think it's in the Pro Max category I think Apple the
01:06:30
way they operate this is they're going to try to make this the exclusive interesting one and so it's going to be
01:06:36
the one with the special battery technology developed to be super thin it's going to be the one with you know a
01:06:41
couple extra you know fun cooling bits that they invented to make a phone this then I could see it going either way
01:06:47
because that's what they that's the approach they took with the iPad Pro they made it super thin and they were like this is the thinnest iPad Pro and
01:06:53
it's awesome but I could also see them being like no if you want the pro get the pro like this is something else
01:06:59
entirely Apple specifically the air has always been a less powerful you're making sacrifices on performance to have
01:07:05
a thinner if they call it the air yeah if they call it the air that's like the MacBook it would be dumb if they didn't call it the air they finally they
01:07:11
actually have a good name for it it's like Promax and Promax slim 5G no air is perfect for this I
01:07:19
think yeah Edge also kind of works because it's so thin you could say it's like an edge whatever I guess I think
01:07:24
what do we think SC screen size for the edges like 25 plus screen size or like
01:07:30
24 so I mean I got to check it out I didn't get the whole other phones up to it but it looked like s25 plus sized
01:07:37
yeah okay only dual cameras though instead of triple cameras I think s25 plus price but with one less C with one
01:07:46
less camera and some uh performance sacrifices H but the
01:07:52
same price because it's thin per performance yeah cuz less cooling cuz they're
01:07:59
probably still going to have the snap they just have to fit more in a tighter spot so like it almost makes me think of
01:08:06
like s20 Fe kind of thing where it's like what are some small sacrifices we could make for something else right yeah
01:08:13
it's like we're trying to think of other devices that will'll be close to but I like how the opop phone was this boring
01:08:19
that we are no talking I was just going to say let this be a lesson to all future embargo creators that this is why
01:08:26
these embos are stupid because we just spent this whole section talking about a different I mean they got their headline
01:08:31
they got their headline on a bunch of websites it's the thinnest Books St foldable blah blah blah yeah it'll come out later this year but the thinnest
01:08:38
thing is what we're like focusing like do people want a super thin phone which leads us down the road of well there's
01:08:44
other super thin phones coming out this year we think do people want them and how bad do they want them would they pay
01:08:50
900 bucks for it I would like to see the thinnest books style foldable that's what I thought when he said that before
01:08:56
that would be better book style is this this is he means the clell the boooks
01:09:03
I'm picturing like the iPhone 17 air if it's as thin as the edge right mhm will
01:09:08
does it still have mag safe so then you can like slap a magnet I mean like a wallet there Apple releases a phone that
01:09:14
doesn't have mag safe going for right so then it's it's as thick as a regular phone but like you know I feel like
01:09:20
that's the benefit and you put it in a case and now it's the same size as a regular phone that's what I think yeah
01:09:25
in a case is now the same size as a phone without a case they got to launch this phone with like a super thin case or something cuz it's going to be really
01:09:32
funny when people go wait in line for this phone this super super thin phone that they've made sacrifices for and paid a bunch of money for it and then
01:09:38
immediately put a case on it and it's just another normaliz phone otter box with worse battery put an Otter Box on
01:09:46
it dude wow OtterBox is going to make a case for this phone too it's going to be really funny I'm just staying optimistic
01:09:51
because I think these super thin devices are actually going to be pretty cool why M because I think we haven't explored
01:09:58
that before well we' explored that to failure before where like phones were bad like
01:10:05
the razor back in the original remember the the there's these two razors that Motorola made the original razor
01:10:11
disgustingly thin no um Motorola is it the Ed oh the Razor Edge the razor ed is
01:10:17
that what it was called they had those two modular phones with the pins on the back yeah and they were the thinnest
01:10:23
phones I've ever seen and terrible battery life like not a lot of great things about well that's the thing if
01:10:28
they suck then then none of this matters but if it's like a decent phone it feels like this is maybe the first time that
01:10:34
the compute is mature enough to give us razor thin phones that don't suck I'm
01:10:40
just curious to see whether something like the pixel 9A going with a bigger battery and slightly thicker is how
01:10:47
that's going to hold up overall with like in the heads space of people compared to something that's dropping
01:10:53
that's going to be super thin yeah dropping I think uh don't drop it I think it's all going to be price related
01:10:58
I think that a phone is going to come out it's going to be 500 bucks and it's going to have an all day battery and everyone's going to be like yes that's
01:11:04
good yeah and then this premium phone is going to come out that's super thin that has a worse battery and all the
01:11:09
headlines are going to be no yeah this bad I like the two different directions
01:11:14
we're going in though like I'm curious to see what happens I'm realizing some of these directions semile to this last headline in this hat really save the
01:11:21
best for last is this a segue unintentionally not really I just wanted to talk about the next
01:11:27
thing iPhone se4 has leaked a lot nice
01:11:33
yeah there's rumors about this one too iPhone there's more than rumors about this one yeah oh there's still the
01:11:40
possibility Mark German originally said that it was going to come out this week we record on Wednesdays if we don't no
01:11:48
no he said this morning it's next week now there's still the
01:11:54
possibility mark Gman said this morning it was going to come out next week okay I hope it's by Wednesday anyway uh this
01:12:02
phone has leaked in full many times over in very funny ways uh span I don't know
01:12:07
if that's how you pronounce the company name but they're a case company they accidentally leaked the entire design by
01:12:14
putting the case for it up for sale temporarily which had photos of the
01:12:20
phone in it so we basically know exactly what it looks like assuming that wasn't just a placeholder that speaking put
01:12:26
online uh but effectively this is the most Frankenstein looking iPhone I think we've ever seen yeah interesting it uses
01:12:34
a ton of parts from a ton of different generations of phone that's the first thing that struck me is typically the
01:12:39
iPhone SE has been and this isn't even that bad of a thing it's just what lets them make it so cheap but it's been a part spin phone right meaning we put
01:12:47
this really really fast chip from this year's phone in this body from this older iPhone and we're like oh yeah now
01:12:53
it's cheaper great and that means it a worse screen and a worse battery and a single camera but it's like it's a cheaper iPhone so it's successful and
01:13:00
it's fine and this one looks like it's not actually a previous body well in some ways it's using a bunch of parts
01:13:06
from older phones uh like it has a notch so there's no Dynamic Island uh nestled
01:13:11
in an OLED display so it's kind of like an iPhone 13 an OLED kind of situation
01:13:16
13 have OLED yeah okay yeah or the pro or did they all they all had OLED yeah
01:13:23
is this not I can't tell the sides of it it feels like a 10r I think it's square
01:13:30
is it Square cuz 10r was rounded it was rounded but it was single oh yeah that does look more like an iPhone 12 it's
01:13:36
like it's similar to an iPhone 12 body the back kind of looks like a a 10r cuz
01:13:42
it's singular camera a singular camera and it has sort of that Sheen of like the 10r color M uh it has an action
01:13:50
button oh I didn't notice that yeah so it's like updated to have the action button these are also all alleged like
01:13:56
the pixel 9A yeah yes uh it's got the 48 megapixel rear
01:14:02
camera and it has a much bigger 3,279 Mah hour battery over the 2,000 millah
01:14:08
battery of the iPhone se3 that's huge Apple a18 chipset and 8 GB of RAM which
01:14:14
suggests they are going to add Apple intelligence uh yeah so there was also a
01:14:20
10-second Hands-On video from this leaker that was posted on X a couple week ago that shows it from basically
01:14:27
all angles oh okay yeah this changes what it looks like so yeah it kind of
01:14:33
looks like an iPhone 12 mixed with a bunch bunch of extra parts yeah it looks
01:14:39
nice oh man we haven't seen the notch in so long yeah I know also remember the
01:14:45
the iPhone SE was $3.99 and then it was
01:14:50
$4.29 right the newest SC well at least at launch was a little bit more expensive sorry I'm curious if the new
01:14:57
new SC when it finally does come out will stale be cuz it's now more RAM and
01:15:02
maybe it's a little bit less part spinny maybe it's more expensive they might do so yeah it's $429 the iPhone se3 is $429
01:15:10
right they might do $4.99 cuz that that's what Google is selling the pixel 9A series at anyway popular price yeah
01:15:17
$500 seems like a popular price I could see apple doing $500 for that um just because it's using and it's apparently
01:15:23
going to have an OLED screen instead of that LCD one that they had on the oh but it's probably going to be 60 HZ oh yeah
01:15:30
a apple of course it's going to be 60 16 is still 60 HZ yeah dang it okay
01:15:37
that would be wild yeah that would be promotion yeah okay yeah well I mean
01:15:43
we're expecting that to be pretty soon again by the time you hear this maybe we know more maybe not who knows um yeah
01:15:50
another alleged phone burmer Mill it's happening very fun I think the rivan's
01:15:55
going to be a color anyway somehow the rivan did the best teasing out of all of this good job
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trivia dude so second question please me something I know in honor of Ellis being
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back on the Pod another Ellis style question which of these is not a real
01:16:38
streaming service a Phoebe oh my God B
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Acorn TV C movie muui mu Ubi Muji d fubo
01:16:55
e tub okay I have a logical answer e the
01:17:01
Chick-fil-A streaming Network my Logic for this is you know how like every deity like ends in like an a sound like
01:17:08
a like God or Allah or something like that all of these Services end in e except for one so I'm going with the one
01:17:13
that doesn't end in e also doesn't God not end in a a vowel sound oh and I'm
01:17:19
just going oh one of them doesn't have e at the end so Phoebe mobie fubo tuby
01:17:26
yeah the one that's not e yeah that's my answer acorns Acorn we will think about this one
01:17:33
answer at the end like usual we'll be right [Music]
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welcome back so today is February 12th a Wednesday the day of recording you guys
01:19:03
are listening to this on February 14th dear listener which is Valentine's Day
01:19:09
so in honor of Valentine's Day I thought it'd be fun to play a little game called
01:19:14
Tech that ghosted us so the way this is going to work is we're going to go around and we're going to each talk
01:19:21
about a tech that is either discontinued or or that went out of business that we miss that it just disappeared damn I got
01:19:28
ghosted once yeah a long time ago yeah we listen and we do not judge who wants to go first I can I can go yeah I'm
01:19:37
still waiting for that text back um the year was 2020 uh for every frisbee team I've ever
01:19:46
played on and just among my group of friends I'm usually the one that knows the most about the weather that tracks but in 2020 that
01:19:55
tracks Apple bought dark sky and they bought dark sky to buy all
01:20:03
of the technology and the realtime sourcing and whatever and so they
01:20:08
immediately removed the app from the Android uh app store and they shut down
01:20:15
the IOS app shortly thereafter and they brought some of those features into their own weather app but my life just
01:20:21
hasn't been the same since I was ghosted by dark sky that was I really miss dark what are you using you're using that uh
01:20:28
so I use carrot weather right now and it's the closest we've come they even have literally a a dark sky clone layout
01:20:35
option for those of us who aren't over our I mean um are over dark sky and on
01:20:42
Android there's not really anything close I've gotten some use out of what
01:20:48
is it called not Shadow weather's okay but there's another one that's I do not have a weather app that I enjoy yet and
01:20:54
I got tired of looking there's honestly not they're kind of not all they're all not good yeah it's a shame some of them
01:21:00
are aesthetically pleasing but don't overdrop I think is aesthetically pleasing but isn't the best like
01:21:06
accuracy so yeah so yeah that's that's definitely my uh that's your one my one
01:21:12
that I thought of I have one that I just kind of thought about the other day
01:21:18
because with Power Beat Pro being $250 we were trying to find some other
01:21:23
comparable uh active headphones like workout based
01:21:28
headphones and I was having a hard time finding some so I remembered an old
01:21:33
favorite of this Channel jbird and tried to look up j-bird headphones and
01:21:38
realized they are just don't seem to be a thing anymore and I missed that completely I thought they got bought by Logitech yeah they did and then Logitech
01:21:46
just said later jbird headphones used to be like the workout headphones I love them like some of those old ones Marquez
01:21:53
brought me on to them I remember remember before I started working here and I was playing ultimate with Marquez he was always testing like new jbird
01:21:59
headphones without looking up how much do you think Logitech bought j-bird
01:22:04
for can less than a billion correct can can we ask a year this was yeah you can
01:22:12
um 19 2016 16 mhm well that was that long ago 20 million yeah I'm going to go
01:22:19
like under a 100 million I'll go 50 50 million yeah yeah
01:22:25
wow holy good guess very nice I thought that was a nice discount 50 milon it
01:22:30
sounds good yeah they just got rid of them yeah to not do anything why do when did they stop doing that yeah I I think
01:22:37
it was several years later they stopped making them but I remember like the jbird X4 is not that I guess it was kind
01:22:43
of long ago uh being pretty great they kind of fizzled out right before like the truly wireless earbuds started
01:22:49
happening like they would be the earbuds that were connected via cable so you'd have wireless earbuds but still have a cable between them mhm and then right as
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we started getting truly wireless earbuds everywhere jbird disappeared they did the jbird vistas which I loved
01:23:01
I used those for so long like they started in they like got into the truly Wireless category and I loved them they
01:23:08
had some cool colors they were like great they fit my ears good little wing tips but like I loved those things and
01:23:15
it seems like they were kind of the end of the line for him dang what was the really popular one that had the they
01:23:20
were connected with the cable that was X4 the X12 3 for yeah yeah I think I had the X2 so had jbirds on my it it
01:23:28
literally felt like ghosting cuz I tried to find them and realized I just haven't looked for that long and it's been a few
01:23:34
years and they're just gone yeah do you guys remember quibby that's not mine that's not mine
01:23:41
joking I'm glad that's dead um damn okay so there was a service called uh scroll
01:23:50
I don't remember I don't know if you remember this yeah the ethereum rapper yeah clearly uh it got bought by Twitter so what it
01:23:57
was was basically this it was a subscription it was a adree wow I forgot
01:24:03
about that holy crap it was awesome it was an adree subscription service service where you would pay $5 a month
01:24:12
and basically com news organizations that signed
01:24:17
on would give you an adree experience and it basically basically
01:24:23
distributed the subscription Revenue to all the news organizations that would sign on to it
01:24:30
isn't that just Apple news also yes sort of but they had a lot more Publishers
01:24:38
like all the Vox Brands were on it um Android police was on it for some reason
01:24:44
it was very cool I really liked it I liked being able to like support the brands that I liked uh Twitter bought it
01:24:50
I believe it got integrated into Twitter blue temporarily oh before before Twitter got purchased
01:24:57
um it was great and I really liked it and there were a lot of questions about the scalability of it obviously because
01:25:04
they were like well does one user who pays $5 a month if there's a a bazillion news
01:25:12
organizations now on the service and they're all getting like three cents from a user is that better than the ads
01:25:18
that they would see there were a lot of questions that were left unanswered but for the period of time that it was around I really enjoyed it I feel like
01:25:25
this is what people wanted when it came to skiing is like you want to ski at a bunch of different mountains how can I
01:25:30
buy like a season pass to go to a bunch of them and then what happened was Veil just bought every single mountain and
01:25:35
you can do that but now they have like total control over like they own an absurd amount of like the skiing
01:25:42
mountains in the US huh I did not know that it's a huge point of uh contention
01:25:48
I think in the skiing world but it's sort of like class pass too do you know class pass no class pass is a service
01:25:55
where you you pay like a monthly fee and then you can go to a bunch of different Fitness classes from a ton of different
01:26:01
types of Fitness classes uh and you use credits that you get through class pass and class pass pays the gems to be able
01:26:10
to let you use them that's kind of cool so it's kind of interesting yeah like a Tesla supercharg Network Ellis you got
01:26:18
one back in the day there was this product that I loved
01:26:24
so dearly my whole family actually loved it just as dearly as I did it was sold
01:26:31
at an unlikely place do you guys remember the store that was mostly in
01:26:37
malls and airports yes called Brookstone yeah thought you to say radio Brookstone
01:26:43
was after Sharper Image I yes okay Brookstone sold almost exclusively
01:26:50
garbage yeah um it was like the airplane magazine stuff
01:26:57
compl and like a weird amount of massage chairs first thing that came out yeah
01:27:04
like you'd be at the airport and you'd be like I really want to ship this massage chair I don't know but they did
01:27:10
make one thing that was amazing it was called the Brookstone weathercast it was an unbelievably
01:27:15
simple piece of tech it was an LCD screen like a black and white calculator style liquid crystal display that
01:27:22
connected either via 3G or radio frequency or something for free to this
01:27:28
network and it would just pull acue weather forecasts and you'd stick it on your fridge and it would have a 5day
01:27:35
forecast and you cannot buy anything anything that does this except
01:27:41
for one thing and I'm going to get there before anyone says anything but any single time you look up weather clock
01:27:46
you get the weather stations where you put a thing on your like roof and it'll be like this is what the temp I don't
01:27:52
want to know that you know I want to know how hot and how C it's
01:27:57
going to be today damn it and I and and and no one make I mean yes I could look at my phone but I like the ability to
01:28:04
walk into my kitchen in the morning and just see while I'm drinking my coffee this is pretty awesome it's amazing it
01:28:09
now and literally my M it was like my mom's favorite tech product of all time and every year for Christmas and her
01:28:16
birthday I look around and I cannot find a single thing like this that exists
01:28:21
until this year yeah a company called terminal uh built sort of like an open-source
01:28:27
Wi-Fi version of this um and I bought one for my mom and it still hasn't arrived yet and I I need to reach out to
01:28:33
them to figure out where it is um but once it gets there I'll let you know if it's the real deal terminal has no
01:28:39
vowels because it's a tech startup um it's ter you're not getting that the amount of vows is How likely
01:28:46
you get it you're at zero but uh I'm excited for this I'm excited that this product after like a 10year Hiatus has
01:28:53
still has come back and uh yeah Brookstone weathercast
01:28:59
incredible product no notes yeah I've seen this terminal thing yes uh Quinn
01:29:04
got one snazzy Labs got one recently and he loves it he said it was cool um I'm
01:29:09
really excited about it but I can't get too excited about it until it's actually in my mom's hands which it's not yet
01:29:15
anyway that's my thing Brookstone weathercast bet none of you remember that I have a question for you mhm why
01:29:21
not just use a Google home or something home hub I don't want that that's fair
01:29:27
fair enough yeah I don't want that's what I got my parents I mean there's look if you got a Google home that's
01:29:32
great I there's nothing wrong with that but I don't want a computer I just want a little computer
01:29:39
no to still a computer no no no this the Brookstone weathercast will never ever
01:29:45
show you an ad it would if it was alive today and you and you cannot say that with
01:29:52
confidence about the Google home you'll never get home from work and be like oh what a day and then and then you look at
01:29:59
your Google home and it'll just be like blue I don't think my Google home's ever
01:30:04
shown me an ad and I can say with confidence it will eventually that's fair that's true okay
01:30:11
mine speaking of Google that I have been ghosted on is what Alo oh no oh David why I'm
01:30:21
changing mine I'm changing Google Alo no mine was uh damn that's a good one what
01:30:27
inbox as well oh my God I hate you for this sorry Google could just be a whole
01:30:33
P I was going to say Google stadia but I kind of want to change it to either one of those oh yeah
01:30:39
stadia I loved stadia I remember when it came out I was so excited the controller
01:30:45
was perfect it was good and I regret getting rid of it after they shut down because now it's just a Bluetooth
01:30:50
controller you can use for like anything and I I got rid of it cuz I was like ah what am I going to need this for now and
01:30:56
I should have kept it it was I would argue stadia broke up with everyone they didn't just straight
01:31:01
ghost they gave them they refunded everybody for every game they ever bought yeah but I'm in denial still so
01:31:08
is that not ghosting that's like if you're they broke up and brought all your stuff back and paid you back for
01:31:15
all the dinners you paid for that's tough that's that would be pretty sick that' be pretty sick yeah I I miss it
01:31:21
because I think they were a little too early to this whole Cloud streaming thing I mean I don't know cuz Microsoft
01:31:27
xcloud is still just like doing a thing right is that what it's called xcloud Microsoft like streaming service Xbox
01:31:34
Xbox Live Xbox Cloud yeah some whatever no it's Ellis uses it it's called
01:31:40
something different well whatever that is it's called Xbox cloud gaming
01:31:45
no and it's still a thing so like Google could have done it and they just like Xbox cloud gaming beta beta I thought it
01:31:52
was yeah it's always going to be a beta what there's a lot of Google things like that that were a little ahead of their
01:31:57
time is different oh yeah but you know that reminded me of Google+ also a little ahead of the time inbox that you
01:32:04
mentioned also a little ahead of time so good the one that I just thought of though that wasn't necessarily ahead of
01:32:09
its time it's just not it doesn't I don't think it works anymore and it just died is Google Reader yeah Google Reader
01:32:16
I used to use that every single day to like follow all the sites that I read there's a bunch of other uh
01:32:26
I switched to feedle and I like tried a couple others and even Flipboard had some stuff but I just never quite got
01:32:31
back into it after reader died yeah yeah yeah I got
01:32:36
ghosted didn't we all yeah did they get rid of reader yeah I just Googled it
01:32:43
instead but they still have blogger it's from Google I think it's an 80% chance if you ask if they got rid of it it's
01:32:48
true that's true well I feel like there now that we're all sad about things we don't have
01:32:54
anymore maybe we should have started with this my girlfriend no time for trivia what better time time to be set
01:33:01
that we get none of the trivia R yeah I'm not getting either of these trivia dude but first I just
01:33:10
wanted to say as a uh follower of sports YouTube uh one of the most talented
01:33:15
creators in that space Kofi just left Vox SL
01:33:22
yeah just left vo/ secretbase oh I saw that this he said he got laid off very
01:33:27
sad but you should go check out his channel and support him in his solo Venture because if you even remotely like sports you will like that content
01:33:36
to help can say so I can you spell his name cuz I'm trying to find it right now I probably should have done that first
01:33:41
his name is spelled k f i e Kofi you've
01:33:47
almost definitely seen him in a secret Bas video or something in the past but uh talks about video games talks about
01:33:53
sports talks about things that he's one of those YouTubers where even if you don't like sports there's something for
01:33:59
you you know like like me and Bug YouTube like I don't like bugs wait did you see ants Canada connected all of his
01:34:06
of course okay you I haven't seen it yet but tell me about it later I want to what happened have I have notifications
01:34:12
on for I need to know I also just want to
01:34:17
say now I'm just riffing here but he whenever he builds a new um like like
01:34:23
terrarium aquarium he uh like has this community panel Community Channel vote
01:34:29
thing to like decide the name and I wanted so bad for him to name it the
01:34:34
Splash Zone because it's an aquarium uh but alas the Splash Zone did not make it anyway question number one I have
01:34:43
four tech company I don't want you to say startup because last time I us would startup people got mad but I have four
01:34:49
tech companies in front of me Adam hit that music a ski sell subscriptions
01:34:56
without ripping your hair out B fruit f r o o t Swift conversion automate Legacy
01:35:03
migration ship faster c k k e a k we are
01:35:10
automating conversion excuse me we're automating conversion rate optimization Jesus D coo giving Canadians the tools
01:35:18
and knowledge to make their money grow also SK is spelled SK IO
01:35:25
SK we all have a 25% chance of getting this right why because you all know one
01:35:30
of them's real no oh and which one is fake that that's the three of them are
01:35:35
real one of them is fake wait how did you arrive at 25% there four answers guessing sh in the dark and we're
01:35:42
[Laughter] guessing don't cut
01:35:47
it let it hang you made me think for a second I
01:35:53
was like made me think for a second try to I would have been thinking for a lot longer than a second if you guys weren
01:35:59
here anyway flip yeah flip those boards how did you arrive at 25% all right who
01:36:06
would like to read their answer Marc has and I wrote the same thing I which is SK
01:36:12
a SK is incorrect SK is a real company a really boring Twitter bio it
01:36:19
is it feels very made up David put B and before I tell if you're right or wrong David can you take me through your
01:36:25
thought process what made you arrive at B um what was B it sounded the most fake
01:36:32
yeah which one was B I don't know I really don't know it was like automate something that was C but I was
01:36:40
David you are correct I made up fruit um
01:36:45
oh fruit right yeah I was trying because I thought it sounded too much like looped that early Sam Alman company we
01:36:51
don't talk about um also he had his looped that's where he had the Dual collar at WWDC
01:36:56
with the pink and the it was the Fruit of Loom kind of oh that was mhm Sam Alman yeah that was Sam Alman yeah
01:37:04
anyway congrats on your point David I'm now going to turn it over to my co he really running away with I'm is he more
01:37:11
than Marquez and I combined we're about to find out quick update on the score Marquez with
01:37:17
five not only is he more than you and Marquez combined but Andrew we could double your score and it's still more
01:37:22
than you guys comined whoa Andrew with
01:37:28
two and after that point David running away with it with nine but it's okay cuz
01:37:33
none of the points matter when we get to triag keeps us up dude this is insane
01:37:39
this is a heater yeah I've lost every trivia EXT Trav again not this season
01:37:44
all right question number two which one of the following is not a streaming
01:37:49
service a Phoebe fi b i b Acorn TV C
01:37:58
movie M Ubi i d fubo f u o or E tub Tu u
01:38:06
b i this is so hard cuz we joke about these all I just make them up so often
01:38:12
that I don't know which ones are real anymore y exactly I already forgot all of them all right flip them and read
01:38:18
what do you got David and I have the same one a which is pH phe
01:38:23
yeah yeah correct I almost Marquez what' you put he put put Acorn I put he
01:38:33
put movie is like a it's like a Criterion Collection competitor no don't know what any of
01:38:39
that they're sort of like trying to split the difference between being an actual film Dro company and being a
01:38:45
streaming service so like Grand Theft Hamlet is distributed a movie production
01:38:50
and you'll be able to stream it there I don't know and Phoebe makes Phoebe makes
01:38:57
tubo which is the broadcast arm of of of
01:39:02
grub of GrubHub oh my gosh Chick-fil-A which is
01:39:08
all owned by the shin hardwig corporation which is all owned by Black
01:39:14
Rock which is all owned by alphabet yeah well we tried we tried to answer them
01:39:20
correctly some of us got some right some of us didn't uh thanks for watching uh next week
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