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feminist women out there are not going to like this women are perishing in this modern world more than men well that's
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terrifying if we want to exist on this planet we're going to have to do Dr Mindy Pelt renowned functional health
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expert bestselling author and keynote speaker one of the leading voices in educating us about our bodies spending
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two decades helping Millions worldwide you got pretty famous from talking about this certain subject matter which is
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fasting what do I need to know research shows it's going to make me stronger more lean
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1,300% increase in testosterone in men oh wow we see inflammation go down
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growth hormone go up it's the hormone that keeps you young and helps you burn fat you know where it dropped the most
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amount of weight belly yep literally takes cells that are turning into cancer and it gets rid of those you are tapping
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into a healing state that you never knew was there I'm sold where do I stop so
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the first place to start is menstration or the Big M is considered a taboo topic
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I'm going to say something which is really embarrassing here I know nothing about menstrual cycles I'm in a relationship what advice have you got
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for me well the first is do you know her cycle moving on tell me about your
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childhood let me give you gold first two days give her some space if you have any conflict you want to resolve with her do
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it between Day 2 and day 12 her libido is going to be the highest between day 10 and day 15 and then here's the goal
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you're going to have to report back to me how this works around day 17 this is where you got to once in a while on this podcast I
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have a conversation that I desperately wish I'd had sooner this is one of those
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conversations I'd heard about fasting but I had no idea no idea at all of its
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potentially lifechanging impact weight loss your sex life A woman's menstrual
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cycle how to heal from illness and injury the incredible power of fasting
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I'm incredibly happy that you chose to listen to this particular conversation because if you're like me and you've never really taken the time to
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understand fasting and you don't understand the six types of fasting then maybe this is the conversation you've
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always needed to hear because it certainly was for me you are really really going to enjoy this one take my
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word for [Music]
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it Mindy if you took the full body of work
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that you've produced over the last let's say 10 years and the work that you're going to produce over the next 10 years
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and you had to summarize the mission that you're on and
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why it matters how would you do that wow that's a great question um I'm trying to
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empower people to believe in themselves again and I want to do that through everything that in our lifestyle that
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Taps into our body's own ability to heal itself we' have gotten so far far off
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course we don't even realize that we're giving so much of our health power away our happiness power away and all we've
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got to do is come back home to ourselves and learn that every single thing inside of us every cell every neuron everything
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is working for us not against us and we have to stop villainizing our body we got to figure out how to believe in
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ourselves again we're the ones that are going to save ourselves and we've just lost our way what have we fallen into
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the Trap of believing well in the health World we've totally fallen into the Trap
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that if I take this pill if I do this diet if I do this exercise then that
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will cure me nobody cures you you cure yourself and so you have to start to
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look at the human body as this self-healing organism that's always figuring out how to keep you alive how
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to keep you at your best and if you're not feeling at your best then the only thing you to look at is that there's an
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interference there's physical emotional spiritual chemical interference that is
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pulling you away from this power that's inside of you so that you can start to
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heal Once you pull those away you see yourself in a whole new light I mean this is what fasting did for millions of
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people you just see yourself so differently in what you're capable of doing where where have we gone wrong in
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terms of our attitude towards what it is to be a human because you know I often think much of the health advice that we
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is through thrown at us these days has this underlying belief that like in some way we're broken yeah yeah yeah oh my I
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I so agree with you it's the messaging is like you did something wrong you have
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a genetic profile that you're doomed to to have a you know a disastrous outcome
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and everything is is is exogenously blamed at us and I really think that
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that comes from not only our Health Care system and I and I'm not trying to bash the healthare system but we have lost
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our way and it comes from for women specifically it comes from the messaging
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we get from you know social media and magazines like everything is outside in
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we got to go inside out now and start asking what we want on a physical spiritual emotional level so that we can
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create the life we want and stop looking outside for the answers we got to go within I love that inside inside out the
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inside out inside out living you got pretty famous from talking about this certain subject matter which is fasting
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yeah now I want to talk about fasting because I've heard about it and I I I'm sure here I represent a lot of my
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audience right now I've heard the term fasting I've heard loads of people in recent times over the last I'd say two
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years get really excited about it and say that it's a good thing yeah but that's really the extent of my knowledge
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on the subject so let's just start right there I mean you wrote a book called fast like a girl you've got so much
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content out on the internet about fasting for both men and women this book was written in
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2022 why why why are you so focused on fasting why do I need to care about it
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what's it going to do for me it it's the quickest antidote to what we just said
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if we've got all this physical emotional chemical stress coming at us we've got taste buds we've got to change we've got
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behaviors we have to change there's a lot there but I can show you how to
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compress your eating window into a 10-hour eating window leaving 14 hours for fasting something as simple as 14
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hours and I can show you how you can start to heal yourself without money
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without time it's you are literally tapping into a healing state that you
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never knew was there and I think part of why we've had so many people pour on to
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YouTube and so many women gravitate to the book is that it's it's so once you
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learn how to fast you start to see your body in this whole new way it can Absol
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absolutely heal itself so for me fasting became this incredible tool that
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everybody could do and we just had to learn how to do it the women that I'm
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watching that are just dropping I mean men and women hundreds of pounds and
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medications they're getting off of and mental health that's coming back just because I taught them how to compress
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their eating window and leave a longer time for rest so their body can repair
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that is all each individual is doing that I didn't do that I'm the type of person that very much needs
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like stats believe things I'm one of those people and once I've got the stats
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or some kind of like scientific evidence then I'm all in beautiful what do I need to know from a scientific standpoint
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what research has been done on fasting okay so let's let's go through the basic principle of fasting and I think this
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will help everybody is that you have two metabolisms so you burn energy when you
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eat and you burn energy when you don't eat but there are two different
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mechanisms so when you eat like let's use myself as an example I had eggs and some avocado for like around 11 o'clock
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today so that's going to bring my blood sugar up now as my blood sugar starts to
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drop what's going to happen is my body's going to switch over into this other Energy System and I call this the fat
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burning Energy System I call this one the sugar burner Energy System when it switch over into this fat burning Energy
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System it starts to make a byproduct called a ketone and that Ketone will go
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up into the brain and it starts to repair your brain and what most people don't realize is your brain is needs 50%
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ketones 50% glucose so you're giving a fuel source to your brain that it
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desperately needs which is why people when they fast are like their mental Clarity goes up their cognition improves
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their brain fog goes away because because you're literally giving a fuel source to your brain that it may never
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had have been given before it takes about eight somewhere between eight
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hours to metabolically switch over into this fat burning Place ah okay so if I'm
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doing a podcast and I want to be sharp yes I shouldn't eat eight hours before yes ah
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[ __ ] did you come back in seven hours seven
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hours yeah sure should have given you the memo before we got
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here yeah so I think of it like a hybrid car you know you you're SW you switch over into this fat burning place so at
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eight hours you start to make the switch by about 12 hours your body's now starting to make a good dose of ketones
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the brain is excited so you're getting that mental Clarity ketones turn off the hunger hormone so you also when you
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switch over at there's going to be a point which you're not hungry um and that all happens at about 12 hours but
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you're also if you stay there a little longer if you stay there and you go 14 hours 15 hours so check this out
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research shows at 15 hours we see growth hormone go up okay growth hormone is the
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hormone that keeps you young and helps you burn fat we also see in men,
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1300% increase in testosterone just from somewhere between a 13 to 15 hour fast
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133% increase in natural testost Stone stores and we can explain why that
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happens in a moment and then we start to see inflammation go down so all of a
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sudden if you have people who have like joints that are hurting they start doing 15 hours of fasting every day and
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they're like God you know my joints just don't have that same stiffness in them anymore but if you stay in that fasted
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window you keep going 17 hours your brilliant body turns within and it goes
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wait a second no food's coming in we better get stronger so it literally takes this the bad cells the cells that
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are slowing you down the cells that are turning into cancer and it gets rid of those they're called ccent cells and it
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it literally recycles them out of your system and it goes into the cells that are still usable and it makes them
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stronger it fixes the inner Cellular Parts we call that autophagy and that
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actually was the if you want stats the Nobel Prize in 2015 by a Japanese
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scientist Dr osumi he won the Nobel Prize medicine and Physiology for this
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term called autophagy and that's when you go without food your cell your cells
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will heal themselves that was back in 2015 so I want to go into all of that I
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want to start with why why does why does fasting help so much and really like what I'm getting at there is if
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this if the effects of this are so profound in so many ways then where did
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we go wrong because from what I you know have been told breakfast lunch dinner
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yeah breakfast lunch dinner and then maybe you know dessert yeah and then you know yeah that's the narrative that I
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was brought up on yeah well breakfast is the most important meal a day I've done a lot of research on that phrase do you
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know where it came from no it was actually and I don't mean to diss any companies out there but it was a tagline
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that they came up with for cornflakes for Kellogg's cornflakes back in the 1970s they needed a tagline that made
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people eat corn flakes in in the morning and so they came up with cornflakes breakfast is the most important meal of
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the day and that has continued until this day we I can't find any research
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and and many other fasting experts many other blood sugar experts will tell you the same thing there's just no research
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showing that breakfast is the most important meal of the day so that became that became a a a myth that we need to
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bust second myth we've been taught is you can speed your metabolism up the
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more you eat six meals a day remember that one okay also a myth there is no
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evidence that the more you eat the faster your metabolism will be the F if you want a faster metabolism you need to
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know how to metabolically switch you need to know how to go from sugar burner to fat burner and that's where you start
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to lose weight so that's the SEC the the other myth that I feel like we have to break apart and then we have this you
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know I can tell you as a mother and I and this is you know not for anybody to have M mommy guilt but what we do as
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parents is we have certain statements we make to our kids like you know breakf
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dinner's being served the kitchen's closing in an hour um you need to eat lunch you need to eat breakfast like we
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are programmed when to eat by a clock not by our own internal sense so kids
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are raised to eat according to a clock not according to when they want to
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eat we don't say am I hungry right now that's so true we all wait until 1:
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p.m. to have lunch and the morning we wake up we feel like we we have to have breakfast or we're doing something wrong
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yep and then dinner time you know anytime between I don't know 6:00 and eight we have to sit down and eat again
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or we're doing something wrong yep like have you like if you just unwind that
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yeah where did that come from right usually from your parents and it came from a schedule what did my ancestors do
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before my parents existed and and my and the schedules existed I can tell you exactly what they did what did they do
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they came out of the cave I'm going to go back to our our Primal friends go back to our cave friends they came out
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of a cave they didn't have refrigerator they didn't have a pantry they didn't have door Dash they had to go find food
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did they have Uber Eats they didn't have Uber Eats delivery yeah I'm pretty sure they didn't have U eats but what they
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did is they came out of the cave and they went to go hunt hunt food sometimes they could make a kill
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really easily and bring it home and they would Feast sometimes the kill wasn't as easy
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and they had to go far to find an animal to kill exercise exercise but what did they do
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when they had to go super far and they couldn't get food they switched over into this ketogenic Energy System and
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that ketogenic Energy System supercharg them because every cell in the human body is the number one priority of our
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cells is survival so we were built to make sure we could stay alive in the
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absence of food so their ketones kicked in and when ketones kicked in they
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became mentally very focused so they could go find food they were able to stay calm ketones will affect a
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neurotransmitter called Gaba and cause G Gaba to come on so you feel calm you're focused ketones will power up your
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muscles so that all of a sudden you have this incredible muscular energy all because
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they were meant to go find food so they can bring it home okay so the body which is orientated towards survival when you
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hadn't eaten it invests a lot of its sort of resources in your brain to increase the chances that you'll catch
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something to eat so that's why when I fast or when I haven't eaten I'm very focused I'm very articulate that's right
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it seems um and I perform at my best Bingo that's it makes sense and then
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what what did they do when they got a kill they came home and they feasted
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they didn't necessarily ration it out they ate and then they divied it up again amongst the tribe and then they
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went out again until when the food was gone maybe a couple days maybe they'd Feast for a couple days when the food
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was gone they go out again it's called Feast famine cycling it is how humans were meant to be to live the challenge
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we have is we have access to food all the time that we are you know feasting
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has taken on a really negative connotation because we're feasting on the wrong Foods M but if we could go
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back and just be like our Primal friends and we could learn how to go in and out of this Feast famine cycling using
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fasting as as a tool for performance for healing and using food in the proper way
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and eating the right food so that our brains will work well and you know there's a whole hormonal pack or sense
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of of food that can help support hormones if we're really conscious about the quality of the food that we eat
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we're now mimicking what our Primal ancestors were doing does that also imply that we should exercise fasted
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because I was thinking if thinking about my ancestors they would have been doing the most physical activity when they hadn't eaten yet that's right yeah they
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would have been doing the most physical activity right before they ate yeah so really interesting point and and you and
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I were talking about this in the beginning is that when you exercise in a fasted State you're going to get rid of
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the glucose that's been stored in your muscles so as that glucose comes out
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because your body body needs it to go you know you you don't work 100% off of ketones and 100% off of glucose you're
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needing both of them at both time at at at different moments of your day so when you're exercising in a fasted State
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you're getting ketones and your muscles are releasing stored sugar which is
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great for anybody who wants to lose weight because now you can lean out those muscles now let's go back to what
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our Primal ancestors did when they came home they ate meat they ate protein and
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they stimulated something called mtor mtor is when you actually create muscle
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growth and what we now know is it takes about 30 grams of protein to trigger
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these amino acid receptor sites in the muscles to cause them to grow stronger so for you if you work out in a fasted
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State you're going to release all those stores you're going to have those ketones for performance but then you want to follow that up with protein so
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you can build your muscles strong and that is a hack that has worked incredibly well for for so many people
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okay historically people have thought that fasting is a one- siiz kind of fits all
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um technique and there's one kind of fasting which is you just I don't know you might just not eat for a prolong
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period of time but in your book and throughout your work you describe these six different types of fasting yeah what
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are the six types of fasting and tell me what the the difference is in outcome and benefit yeah it's a great question
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so again fasting is when we switch over so now we're in the fat burning uh place
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at about 13 to 15 hours we start making ketones this is intermittent fasting that's pretty much what most people when
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they say they're intermittent fasting that's what they're doing okay they take 12 to 16 hours yeah they're making
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ketones testosterone's going up inflammation's coming down hunger might
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be going away they're kind of having this they might be a lot of people lose weight with that it's it's kind of the most common fast does it matter from the
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the window does it matter what time I start and what time I end you get to choose you choose what that window should be so I could eat at 3:00 a.m.
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you could there's a whole another level we can talk about why you don't want to eat in the dark what's ideal an ideal window do you think um I really like it
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depends on the on the time of the year but in the summer I really like somewhere if you're going to do an 8 Hour eating window like 11 to 7 in the
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summer and then in the winter because it's darker earlier you would do more like a like a 10 to five kind of eating
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window it's not so hard to do 11 to S right not hard at all not hard at all that's
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not that's not fasting that's that's just a slight having a a slightly later breakfast and a slightly earlier dinner
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yeah but it's it's like being intentional right yeah exactly because you don't want to you got to you got to keep blood sugar low otherwise the
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minute blood sugar goes up you're going to switch over right so you can't put it you know if you walk past the kitchen
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and put a grape in your mouth yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah which is you pulled yourself guil of yes yes so that's the
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first type of the six fast um styles the second is I'm going to try
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and say this word or of ai ai AO
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aagi it's one way of saying it people say either call it um autophagy or
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autophagy people say it different you tell me I said it wrong I kind of landed on autophagy I feel like autophagy is
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the best way to say it autophagy fasting what's that so autophagy fasting is about 17 hours in with without food your
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cells will turn within and they'll start to heal themselves and that was what Dr osi's big uh Discovery was is that the
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cells clean themselves up so what's interesting on this one and this is something I really want to get out to the world is that when you stimulate
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autophagy what you're doing is you're turning on the intelligence inside the cell and that intelligence is looking
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around and it's going hey there's a virus there's a bacteria get them out so
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let's push these infections out out of the cell that mitochondria it's not working well we need to repair it that
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endoplasmic reticulum inside here it's it's lagging we need to fix it so it literally goes in and fixes everything
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inside the cell just at 17 hours but one of the greatest studies that was I've seen in fasting was done during covid
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and it showed that if a virus comes into a cell that's in a state of autophagy it can't replicate viruses have to live off
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of your energy system so when viruses go into a cell that's Laden with glucose
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they have a party in there they love that they munch on that and then they go out and they start replicating if you
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were in a fasted State when a virus comes in it can't replicate there's nothing inside that cell for that virus
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to take over and it dies why does that happen what's the reason for the the that sort of the CEO
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within my C looking around and saying right let's clean all this stuff up well because the it when once you've stim at
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autophagy there is one goal for that cell and that is survival so everything
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in there is on high alert okay everything is going to be in your survival interest so a virus is not in
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your surv survival interest so it pushes it out so it's kind of like an emergency signal because there's not been food for
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a while so it's kind of like the last the last attempt to do everything
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the body can to help you make it through this period of hunger or that's right
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that's right you've put yourself in this state of extreme healing and it's all based off of this idea that your body
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wants to stay alive okay so that's are you write in your book that that's good for balancing sex hormones and preventing colds so
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yeah with with autophagy it's great for preventing colds what here's what's interesting about autophagy for sex
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hormones is that the major part of your brain for both men and women that control hormonal all hormonal control is
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your hypothalamus and pituitary that part of the brain does not have a bloodb brain barrier so it's very vulnerable to
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toxins so whenever we have massive toxic exposure that part of the brain starts
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to malfunction we see this with uh polycystic ovarian syndrome most common
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hormonal imbalance for women well a lot of that is this imbalance of testosterone and estrogen and there's a
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huge toxic piece that has destroyed or or in interfered with the part of the
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brain that control hormones so when we look at autophagy there are certain parts of our
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system that are more uh easily influenced by autophagy than others well
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it turns out the hypothalamus and the pituitary are easily influenced by autophagy and can repair themselves when
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they're in the state of autophagy the other interesting cellular makeup that is highly influenced by
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autophagy are the the cells around the testes and the cells around the ovaries
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the those are the the cells that are putting out sex hormones and if you that
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whole system is malfunctioning when you go into a state of autophagy those cells will respond and become better cells and
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be better at producing these hormones because of you dipping in and out of the
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state of autophagy that really got me thinking because I've been looking at a lot of
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companies from an investment standpoint at the moment that are trying to solve for this macro decline in male
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testosterone you know I had a few guests come on this podcast and tell me that male testosterone has been decl
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declining year-over-year and then kind of paired with that we're becoming more and more sexless our libidos seem to be
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in Decline I've got a lot of close friends of mine that are taking certain hormonal um supplements to try and get
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their libidos back up and for the first time ever in on a show called Dragon's Den that I'm on in the UK we had someone
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come into the den for an investment that was producing a supplement to try and get our sex drive back feels like a big
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macro conversation that we're not having and looking at your work and the work around you've done about fasting and
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what you said there it seems like there could potentially be a link yeah between the two the ways we're living our life
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and what we're eating and our decline in testosterone and our libidos there's a beautiful book I don't know if you've
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read it called countdown and it's about the sperm counts going down in across
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the world and I actually brought her onto my podcast the woman who wrote the book and she said that there's one
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chemical that's reducing uh sperm counts more than any and it's phades and phades
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are in fragrances oh they're in our Colones they're in our perfumes they're in our laundry detergents they're in our
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air fresheners they also are now infiltrated into our water so they've
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infiltrated into they're now being sprayed on our Foods animals that are drinking the water have phalates in them
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so it's the number one toxin that's destroying testosterone levels and it's
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a brilliant book that she wrote you talk about in the reset factory your first book from 2016 chapter 10 you said
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something which I hadn't quite um appreciated you said that even the things we put on our skin are absorbed
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into our body um and then they go directly into our bloodstream and into our kidneys I didn't think when I read
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that it got me thinking because there's so many things that I sort of unconsciously just spray on my body
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right every day and I never look at what's in them because I just think it's on the outside and it'll wash off y but
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now you're saying that yeah your skin is a breathable organ so it's going to push
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toxins out and it's going to take toxins in so think about it if you've ever like eaten something that didn't react well
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with you you might get a rash that's your brilliant body trying to push that toxin out but the same thing happens
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when you put something on your skin it actually goes into your body so a good general rule is if you aren't willing to
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eat it don't put it on your skin and beyond that if we even look at at the
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microbiome you have bacteria on your skin that protect you and that bacteria
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is are actually talking to the bacteria in our gut there's actually a connection between the two bacteria so if you start
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putting things on your skin that destroy that microbiome you're actually going to ultimately have an adverse effect on the
00:28:18
microbiome in your gut so what you put on your skin is massively important and
00:28:23
then the smell we know the hippocampus which is the seat of all Alzheimer's and
00:28:28
Dementia is also where the olfactory nerve innervates so when we smell
00:28:34
something toxic and breathe something toxic in it goes straight into the hippocampus and starts to create
00:28:40
degeneration in those neurons that are ultimately can lead to dementia and Alzheimer's toxicity is a huge human
00:28:48
problem toxicity when you say the word toxicity how are you defining that you're saying
00:28:54
like toxic chemicals that we introduced into our lives on our skin consume inhale have around us Bingo and that are
00:29:01
in our Foods Etc yep Bingo what are what are some of the the most toxic chemicals
00:29:07
or Foods or products that we consume without thinking that you think we need to stop consuming on a day-to-day basis
00:29:15
oh here's the most the easiest one is Plastics BPA plastic they say that it's
00:29:20
that there's it's not a matter of if you have plastic in your body it's a matter of how much so let's use it in a in
00:29:28
context of something that people are really motivated by which is weight loss what's BPA plastics it's it's a it's a
00:29:34
chemical within plastic that's within our water bottles it's on in our
00:29:40
Tupperware um they actually are putting they're saying that they're now in the microfibers of our of our clothes and
00:29:46
that's being washed out to this it gets really depressing when you start talking about toxins gets washed out into our
00:29:51
oceans so but the for the sake of Simplicity it's it's you know bottles
00:29:57
mostly that you see but you know we've got plastic containers we've got plastic plates we've got plastic everything and
00:30:03
that is has BPA in it and that is a a a toxin that destroys human health and the
00:30:10
biggest and most interesting thing that BPA Plastics do is there was a study around something called a Audy Mouse and
00:30:17
they took this mouse that had a gene for obesity and they were twins they fed
00:30:23
them the same food they gave them the same amount of exercise but one of the
00:30:28
mice got introduced BPA plastic and the one that got the BPA plastic all of a
00:30:34
sudden started to gain weight and the hair color started to change and they that was the only difference between
00:30:40
these two mouse mice with the same genetic profile and so then when they detoxed the BPA plastic out the mouse
00:30:48
lost weight so that was the beginning of us understanding a term called obesogens
00:30:53
and obesogens are toxins that actually make us insulin resistant actually cause
00:30:58
us to hold on to to more weight and that's just one category of
00:31:04
toxins well that's terrifying it is terrifying to be completely you know
00:31:10
from the center of my heart this is it's this is why we have to educate ourselves
00:31:16
this is why we have to wake up we have to understand that we are living in the most toxic time in human history and it
00:31:24
doesn't it's not just mental stress it's not just social media it's a barrage of
00:31:29
all of that that is pulling us off course and I can tell you that I have sat with some of the most brilliant
00:31:35
doctors who are generally so concerned on the direction of humanity and where
00:31:42
we're going because of the abundance of these toxins as you said that I could see a
00:31:48
sadness in your face where does that come from I think it's really easy when you
00:31:55
hear a podcast like this and and what saying to reject what I'm saying because
00:32:00
it's it's too overwhelming to understand what the evolutionary
00:32:07
mismatch we're in right now we so many people are suffering whether
00:32:14
it's physical or mental mentally and they don't realize that it's everything
00:32:20
from the food to their shampoos to the plastic water bottles it's it's so vast
00:32:27
and yet nobody doing anything about it and and that's where my heart hurts it's
00:32:33
like people are suffering that don't need to be suffering and if they understood that the modern world we're
00:32:40
living in has taken us so off course with our health and we've got to start
00:32:46
to one by one figure out how to bring it back on course and you know yesterday I sat with
00:32:52
um Dr Dale bredis on my and interviewed him on my podcast he wrote a book called the end of Alzheimer's and he laid out
00:33:00
seven things that we need to do to stop Al Alzheimer's and he strongly feels
00:33:05
that Alzheimer's is optional you don't have to you don't have to get that and
00:33:11
those seven things are so intense like it's
00:33:18
everything from detoxing to metabolically switching to prioritizing sleep to human connection to um
00:33:26
understanding e you know what the best exercise is for you and it's easy for
00:33:32
humans to look at those seven things and go I'm out I can't do all that but we if we want to exist on this
00:33:40
planet we're going to have to do that that's the new level of Health we're in right now and I'm I love being the
00:33:47
cheerleader I want to be the one that's like come on we can do it but I also need people to understand that where
00:33:53
we're living as humans right now is a very very dangerous place and it's just in the existence of moving in and out of
00:34:00
grocery stores and restaurants and you know and the drugstore everything has a toxic insult on us and it's overwhelming
00:34:08
it's overwhelming drastic action because we've we're so drastically far away from
00:34:15
where we're supposed to be Y where our ancestors were y we've built up this Society that's full of plastics and
00:34:21
toxins and alcohol and drugs and sugar everywhere and I can't move in bloody
00:34:27
New York city which is where we are now without someone offering me you know
00:34:32
every block is almost every block is really bad food horrible but food that
00:34:37
tempts the certain part of my brain that maybe is looking to help me stay alive and to survive whether it's pizza or
00:34:45
sweets or whatever it might be yeah um so it's it is difficult and I have a
00:34:50
great deal of empathy for anyone that's struggling yeah with it me too me too
00:34:56
it's a it's a it's it's it's we've hit a point where the door out of poor health
00:35:01
is multifaceted it's not just one door and if you're healthy and you're just like
00:35:08
you know someone like you just wants to get in better shape then the path is a little bit easier MH but what do we do
00:35:14
for the for the person that gets the cancer diagnosis what do we do for the woman who's suicidal in going through
00:35:21
her menopause years like where are we helping her how are we getting to them
00:35:26
and each time they walk into their doctor's office they're typically giving getting a pill and not being taught how
00:35:33
to live a life that works with their body in this modern world that's where we have to get to quick one before we
00:35:40
get back to this episode just give me 30 seconds of your time two things I wanted to say the first thing is a huge thank
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about the show thank you thank you so much back to the episode you told me about the first two styles of fasting
00:36:29
the first one was intim fasting which is 12 to 16 hours which is good for weight loss brain fog that kind of thing the
00:36:35
second is autography autophagy what did I say autography but I like it I said
00:36:43
autophagy I said autophagy we can play that back I definitely said autophagy and if I didn't we'll fix it with AI um
00:36:48
autophagy fasting which is 17 to 72 hours good for balancing sex hormones and preventing illness yeah number three
00:36:56
we haven't spoken about gut reset fast yeah what's that yeah so that's based off uh a study that came out of MIT that
00:37:04
showed 24 hours without food and your intestinal stem cells inside your gut
00:37:10
actually start to reboot themselves now a stem cell is a cell that can go to
00:37:15
anywhere in the body and repair itself but at 24 hours you get a plethora of them in your gut and in the gut we've
00:37:24
got a damaged microbiome from everything that that we've just been talking about so what I discovered in this 24-hour
00:37:31
fast is I could take women that have been on birth control pill for years um people that had been on multiple rounds
00:37:37
of antibiotics people who had been eating horrible food and I could actually put them through a 24-hour fast
00:37:44
once a week once every couple of weeks and these stem cells would come in there and they would start to repair and so
00:37:50
now if I teach that person How to Eat Right their food is actually starting to build a better microbiome in the gut so
00:37:59
that 24-hour fast became this go-to in my clinic where I could take all these
00:38:04
gut challenges and I could start to unwind them just because I knew the body
00:38:09
had this capability of making these intestinal stem cells and it was crazy like we got people off supplements we
00:38:15
got people that were didn't weren't making serotonin which affects moods comes from the gut all of a sudden
00:38:21
started to become happier people who hadn't had bowel movements in like three days all of a sudden we started to put
00:38:27
in these this gut reset and it was like a miracle it was incredible number four
00:38:33
fat burner fast so the fat burner fast is probably my favorite for those people who want to lose weight the research was
00:38:40
done that 36 hours without food followed by 12 hours of eating and then another
00:38:47
30 they actually did it over a 30-day period but we've been using it in our community just dosing it in that at 36
00:38:54
hours what happens is that's enough time where the blood sugars come come down
00:38:59
where all of a sudden the body it's so smart it goes okay blood sugar's not
00:39:05
common we've been in this fasted State we've triggered autophagy we've brought inflammation down we've made you ketones
00:39:11
we're trying to go find food but this extra weight it's not serving you you
00:39:16
because remember you got to go find food so it drops weight and it's the most beautiful way to get a person to unstick
00:39:25
any kind of weight loss resistance but most importantly you know where it dropped the most amount of weight from
00:39:32
where does everybody want to lose weight belly yep so it is the I probably should have called it the fat burning belly fat
00:39:38
burning yeah the belly fat yeah that would have banged yeah but yeah and so that's what they showed is that actually
00:39:44
a 36-hour fast started to unstick weight loss and it was started with weight around the
00:39:50
belly compelling number five the dopamine reset fast yeah so number five um I
00:39:58
found some research showing that when people go without food for 48 hours the
00:40:04
whole dopamine system will be rebooted so what's important to know about the dopamine system is it is our molecule of
00:40:12
happiness it is the thing that it's actually a motivation molecule and it's a neurotransmitter that allows thoughts
00:40:19
happy thoughts to go across from neuron to neuron and so what happens and I'm
00:40:25
sure you've talked about this on your podcast that were so dopamine saturated right now but specifically people who
00:40:31
are Overeaters they actually are finding the study I quote in the book is that they found that people who had food
00:40:38
addiction people who had extra weight like obese situations they were not getting as much
00:40:45
happiness out of their food because their dopamine receptor sites were saturated so they had to eat more food
00:40:52
to get more happiness and a lot and you know food is a state Chang it does make
00:40:58
us happy so what they found is if they put them into a 48 hour fast that they
00:41:03
actually rebooted the whole dopamine system and new dopamine Reyes appeared so that when they brought food back in
00:41:10
to the equation they actually got more enjoyment out of food with less food this kind of got me thinking about a
00:41:16
conversation I was having yesterday with some of my team here we were talking about how um it almost feels like
00:41:22
sometimes if I've eaten sugar I can go into a bit of a sugar cycle and what I mean by that is I'll have some sugar and
00:41:27
then like a couple of hours later I'll have another craving for sugar and then a couple of hours later I'll have another craving for sugar but then at
00:41:33
other times specifically for example when I did keto I was I did the keto diet for about eight months uh eight
00:41:38
weeks bloody eight months I wish um eight weeks and throughout that period I didn't have any cravings for sugar yep I
00:41:45
would we had some chocolate come into the studio and I walked over to the chocolate and I smelled it yep and I
00:41:50
didn't want any of it yep it had gone but then when I'm in my what I call like the sugar cycle I'm eating sugar maybe
00:41:56
you know once twice a day and I'm getting like the craving for it where which I just can't seem to resist yep
00:42:02
well dopamine's the molecule more it's not the molecule of enough so what it
00:42:07
does is when you get sugar you get this dopamine rush and the Brain goes woo love that give me more of that and so
00:42:15
you con you it's it's endless you will never be fully satisfied it constantly wants you to come back for more and more
00:42:22
and more so when you start to go off the ketogenic Energy System you're getting the same Foria you probably felt the
00:42:28
same high the same mental Clarity but you've totally taken this molecule more out of the out of the picture it's it in
00:42:35
fact dopamine will actually you know you you get those receptor sites that will be repaired but you're not getting a big
00:42:42
dopamine buzz when you're in a ketogenic State you're getting ketones I was I was mulling it with my team how long I had
00:42:48
to stay away from sugar to kind of get out of that vicious give me more cycle
00:42:53
yeah my experience has been it's about three days three days that's what I thought yeah I think I said four or five
00:42:59
but it's just from experience as well if I haven't had sugar for 3 or four days I mean like a like a chocolate but
00:43:05
something significant in terms of sugar then after three or four days the craving for it seems to to vanish yeah
00:43:11
yeah it's not it's not if you think about that it's not hard if you're trying to overcome a sugar addiction
00:43:17
yeah like just bear it for three days and then that dopamine stops barking at
00:43:22
you and then if you attack fasting onto it now you're getting ketones and so
00:43:28
you're not needing that as much ketones kill hunger and they make you so mentally mentally clear they give you
00:43:34
this euphoric feeling so you don't have that urge to go for the for the sugar and the ketones come from fasting which
00:43:40
is when your body switches metabolic State go yeah the last and final fasting
00:43:45
style immune reset fast yeah so immune reset was built off of Dr vter Longo's
00:43:51
work and he did a study on people who had cancer and were going through ch
00:43:57
therapy and one of the challenges we know about chemotherapy is that it wipes out the whole immune system and so he
00:44:03
wanted to see well what if I put somebody in a fasted State as they went through chemotherapy would there be a
00:44:09
difference and what he found is after three days of fasting the white blood cells in our system actually reboot
00:44:16
themselves so what they do is all old white blood cells are are sloughed away and new white blood cells emerge so
00:44:23
people were able to come out of that chemo therapy experience and have a
00:44:29
stronger immune system as opposed to what we were seeing was that it was wiping the immune system out so that
00:44:35
launched the whole three-day water fast sort of craze at least here in America
00:44:40
we're seeing a lot of people that are just going after three-day water fast to Prime their immune system but you also
00:44:48
also at three days get stem cells full systemic stem cells so all of a sudden
00:44:53
your body's got in surging with stem cells going to all parts of the body repairing it the great example I always
00:44:59
use on this one was I had an Achilles tendon injury and nothing was nothing
00:45:05
was helping it so I threw a 5-day water fast at it on the fourth day I felt this
00:45:11
buzz in my achilles tendon I was like oh wonder what that is and it stayed all
00:45:17
the way through I went five full days and um about the fifth and sixth day so
00:45:22
sixth day I was entering food back in all the pain completely went away and it never came back I tried everything I
00:45:30
tried everything and that was the only thing that repaired it it does make again evolutionary sense
00:45:36
that if our body senses we're injured because we're not eating or you know
00:45:41
some other signal that we are on a course to not survive to put it
00:45:48
nicely it does make sense that it might set about to repair whatever needs to be repaired you're getting it you know
00:45:54
because like if I was a wounded human back in on the savanas of I don't know Africa or wherever we came from um and
00:46:01
I'm laid there and I'm not eating my body should probably go okay Steve might
00:46:06
need something fixed so he can get back to yeah hunting so you're getting it so
00:46:13
survival that is the number one priority of the body so when you go without food
00:46:20
you amplify every resource it has to keep you alive and if repairing my
00:46:26
Achilles means I can now go hunt for food it's going to do that it's going to make me stronger and I in the book I I
00:46:33
stumbled when I was writing the book I stumbled upon a really cool hypothesis that's called the Thrifty Gene
00:46:39
hypothesis and it said that what it's a theory obviously it's a hypothesis it's
00:46:45
a theory that the people the humans that evolved out of the Primal days had a
00:46:51
very specific genotype and this genotype allowed us to metabolically flex and and
00:46:57
be stronger in a fasted State because we had to survive and the people that
00:47:03
didn't make it from that time period didn't have that Gene but think about this for this moment so they think we
00:47:10
all have this Gene inside of us right now this Thrifty Gene where we can go long periods without food and we can
00:47:17
survive so what happens when we're eating all day what happens when we're ignoring and we're not actually
00:47:24
activating that genetic profile so what they are now believing is that diabetes metabolic syndrome all of that
00:47:31
is largely happening because we are going against the G the genetic profile that we are now seeing in humans we're
00:47:38
like on the opposite end of the spectrum we're overloading our bodies
00:47:43
yeah which is meaning that the survival Gene you referen there is not being activated to help us that's right that's
00:47:51
right interesting what about what about coffee you know if I'm going to fast
00:47:56
asked for I know people are so addicted to coffee so I feel like I have to ask a question as their representative if I'm
00:48:02
going to fast do any of these six fasts that you just mentioned does coffee break that fast yeah it does break it no
00:48:08
well it depends okay so this is this I'm just I yes or no um I can't give you a yes or no on it
00:48:15
I'm going to give you most likely okay no let me give you most likely it's okay
00:48:21
okay most likely it's okay yes there's not a high degree of certainty and conviction there no let me let me
00:48:27
explain myself okay so when you drink a cup of coffee it shouldn't spike your blood sugar it shouldn't should not it
00:48:34
doesn't so if it does it shouldn't so if you have black coffee and your blood
00:48:39
sugar doesn't Spike and you're you're trying to metabolically switch over into your fasting window you're good you're
00:48:46
golden drink that black coffee okay okay now I'm gonna add some sugar to it okay
00:48:52
now now you're not switch now you've pulled you've pulled yourself out of fasted State uh okay so no sugar just a
00:48:58
plain coffee with no milk or sugar in it is is most likely going to keep you in a
00:49:03
fasted State most likely uh well I've seen a few occasions where it didn't okay um this is why we have people test
00:49:10
their blood sugar like it it it's Unique to you so you can test your blood sugar have the cup of coffee half an hour
00:49:17
later check your blood sugar again those numbers should be equal okay so for most people coffee should be fine when
00:49:22
they're fasting but there's a couple of an anomalies who their blood sugar does Spike yes um which means that they're
00:49:29
not going to switch over to the fasted State yes yes exactly and you know
00:49:34
coffee mate creamers um those can be a little more problematic um but some people put full
00:49:42
fat cream in there with no sugar um some people put MCT oil in there you know the
00:49:48
buttered coffee became very very common and that was because of the fasting movement so the reason they did that was
00:49:55
because when you put a fat in coffee you stabilized your blood sugar and so you
00:50:00
were able to stay in the fasted State and switch over I had glucose God this on the podcast who um Jesse she talks a
00:50:07
lot about glucose spikes it was the first time my eyes were really open to the consequence of living a life where
00:50:12
your glucose levels are spiking and crashing and spiking and crashing and I've invested in this company called Zoe where they give you a glucose monitor
00:50:19
which I attached to my arm for 14 days as part of the initial test and then they give me this big sort of nutrition plan and profile and um that was the
00:50:25
first time I got to see you know I was in America at the time I was I was in LA for a couple of months and I in La I
00:50:31
mean I pulled up at a gas station and I was it's funny I was walking through this gas station and everything in there
00:50:37
was sugar it's CU cuz now I was looking right now I had my eyes open cuz I'm wearing this bloody monitor so I'm about
00:50:43
to see the impact within minutes that it has on my body and I was just looking around thinking oh my God the only thing
00:50:49
that I can see in this whole store that I can eat without spiking my glucose is water so is it a monitor where you can
00:50:56
see it you can scan it yeah yeah so so they've got two Game Changer yeah so they've got two one of them you scan the
00:51:02
new one they've got it's automatic by Bluetooth so it just keeps constantly updating on your phone I honestly think
00:51:10
we could dramatically change the health of the world if everybody put one of
00:51:15
those on amen amen because then what you would do is you would just go cuz you know this is like coffee like you should
00:51:22
it should be so simple for me just to say yes drink your coffee you're fine but your microbiome in your gut is going
00:51:29
to determine what it does with whatever hits that so it's going to determine your blood sugar levels your microbiome
00:51:35
my microbiome completely different so food no longer is a one-size fits all
00:51:40
there's an individual approach so you have to know what your blood sugar is doing yeah you know like when I eat
00:51:45
believe it or not when I eat a grass-fed steak my blood sugar goes down it's amazing wow so whereas other people eat
00:51:54
a steak and their blood sugar goes Super high and so then again you go to a
00:52:00
thread of this conversation which is how do we help Humanity yeah and Humanity wants the one size fits all I can't give
00:52:08
you that yeah you're gonna have to learn your own you got to learn you and something like that teaches you you but
00:52:16
you're going to have to become very curious about you like you are and what's really fun to me when you put one
00:52:22
of those things on I it's my favorite thing to do with patience is I say just eat normal just eat everything yeah yeah
00:52:28
yeah and then and then every day I have them send me their readings and we just talk it through I I just did this with a
00:52:35
beautiful patient that I've been working with who has a long history of eating disorders and she was counting calories
00:52:42
and um really wanted the control of being able to keep her weight where she
00:52:47
was where where it needed to be and I said okay you can count calories if you want but I just want you to stick this
00:52:53
monitor on and let's just eat and let's see what you're doing and she was vegan and and this isn't a this isn't an
00:52:59
anti-vegan conversation but her spikes were up and down and up and down like there was like eight of them a day and
00:53:05
her moods followed those spikes too and so then we started to go okay well let's
00:53:10
add a protein here could we add fat here could we add some more fiber here and she got to watch for herself and within
00:53:17
four weeks she was free of any food control and she was off teaching everybody else it was so beautiful to
00:53:24
watch that calorie counting point though there's a there's a big school of thought that in order to lose weight and
00:53:31
be healthy all you've got to do is count those calories yeah you know there's something called a set point have you
00:53:37
heard about the set point yeah which is the amount of calories that I need to consume in order to hit my that's right
00:53:42
so we all have a set point if you're going to go down the calorie path you H you have to understand you have a set
00:53:48
point and the set point is there's a mo how much calories coming in and how much calories going out what's the Delta of
00:53:55
that and that will keep you at whatever weight you want to be so let's use an example you eat 1,500 calories a day you
00:54:03
exercise 500 you have a Delta of a thousand so if you want to keep your
00:54:08
weight where it's at you always have to do a th000 calories every single day yeah okay well what happens on the day
00:54:15
you decide not to work out so now you have 500 extra calories that your body's not used to and so what does it do with
00:54:21
those calories stores it so then you all of a sudden start you're gaining weight
00:54:27
and you don't really understand why so you're like well let me count I need to restrict calories yeah so then you start eating maybe I mean I have less yeah and
00:54:35
then you bring the set point down well that's your new that's your new set point you're going to have to stay at that set point now if you don't ever
00:54:41
want to gain another pound you see the game oh okay so my set
00:54:47
point is moving the crafty it moves because as you restrict and you if as
00:54:52
food restriction goes down and energy output goes up your set point goes down and now you're like I feel great but you
00:54:59
can't leave from that set point you're going to always have to make sure that that set point is 1,000 calories or 800
00:55:05
calories so I was told I mean this is the school of thought that I have to have for me as a male that has my weight
00:55:12
2,000 calories a day and then if I'm under 2,000 calories a day then I'll lose weight that's what I was told yeah
00:55:19
so you go now you go to 1500 calories you drop weight yeah to lose the weight yep you go back up to 2,000 and for most
00:55:26
people they start to gain weight again ah because my my set point has moved so now it's 1,500 yeah to maintain my
00:55:33
weight yeah which is why if you think about it have we have we ever seen a calorie restriction diet work long term
00:55:40
no right I haven't longterm being the key word there yeah it's short term it
00:55:46
it works great but this is why I'm such a fan of metabolic switching how about we watch blood sugar we put a monitor
00:55:52
like you're talking let's put a monitor on so that you keep your blood sugar spikes minimal it's like what I did with
00:55:57
this woman is I was like let's can we have two two spikes in a day not eight
00:56:02
and we just keep your blood sugar at a at a at a low level so that when you're not eating you can switch over and now
00:56:08
you can burn fat in the fat burning Energy System so metabolic switching is
00:56:14
where you're keeping your blood sugar at a stable place it's not got all these Spikes all over the place so that when
00:56:20
it starts to go down the body is going to want to switch over and it can start to burn fat in the in and use that other
00:56:25
energy system what do you think our relationship should be with
00:56:31
sugar well you know there's only 12% of Americans that are metabolically
00:56:37
healthy is that means that they have the right blood pressure the right
00:56:43
cholesterol that their hemoglobin A1c their insulin all those metabolic
00:56:48
markers are in Balance only 12% of Americans have that
00:56:54
right that is a huge problem and that is largely because we're addicted to
00:57:00
Sugar so what's the consequence of poor metabolic health obesity cancer heart
00:57:07
disease mental health challenges I mean you name it every chronic disease on the
00:57:12
planet at the root has a metabolic thread now I hate to to bring back a a a
00:57:20
a really traumatic concept uh topic but during covid when we looked at the
00:57:27
people that fell prey to covid this is no no disrespect they were metabolically
00:57:35
unhealthy and the people that had less covid symptoms were the ones that were
00:57:40
more metabolically healthy in general so and largely because the virus could grow
00:57:46
could really replicate if you had a lot of glucose in your system so the consequence is huge and the health care
00:57:54
Consequence the amount of money we pay trying to help everybody put their health back together because they're metabolically unhealthy if we just
00:58:01
started with metabolic Health we would change everything and metabolic Health people think of metabolic Health often
00:58:06
as being you know I'm in good superficial
00:58:12
shape I'd like to think um but that's not metabolic Health you could be I'm
00:58:17
guessing you can be metabolically unhealthy but also have abs oh oh yeah
00:58:23
you could this woman I was telling you about with all the the spikes she was she's actually a a model and an actress
00:58:30
oh wow that that is beautiful and we had to go back in and really work with
00:58:35
getting her metabolically healthy so yeah you we call it skinny fat you look you look skinny on the outside but
00:58:42
you're dealing with excess sugar on the inside that is putting fat around your liver putting fat in other areas I think
00:58:50
a lot of people can relate to that skinny fat concept yeah so it's it's a major major issue and and you know we
00:58:56
can look at different things like hemoglobin A1c it's a marker in the blood everybody gets it tested every
00:59:03
year when they go to their doctor it should be under five if it's not under five what's happening is all that extra
00:59:09
sugar is is going around your red blood cells and your red blood cells carry oxygen to your body so they're gummed up
00:59:16
with sugar so they can't deliver things oxygen to the brain to your eyes to your muscle so you're not getting oxygenated
00:59:23
because of the sugar just gumming up these blood cells in chapter one of your book you
00:59:30
talk about this um metabolic Health crisis in great detail you share some stats which I pulled out which I I
00:59:36
thought were terrifying it's page page four of your book you say according to the CDC 41% of women and TW 21 and older
00:59:44
are obese 45% have high blood pressure out of two one out of two will develop
00:59:50
cancer in their lifetimes one out of five will develop Alzheimer's one out of nine will get typed two diabetes one out
00:59:57
of eight will develop a thyroid problem and 80% of all autoimmune conditions
01:00:04
occur in women why is that that last one 80% of
01:00:09
all autoimmune conditions occur in women yeah so autoimmunity is a really interesting one um and um if you look at
01:00:18
what an autoimmune condition is it's the body attacking itself and so when we look at where to
01:00:26
go we're back of the toxins Hashimoto why is the body attacking the thyroid there's something there that needs to
01:00:32
get out so it's usually a toxic issue so the body's attacking the the thyroid
01:00:37
when we look at ra and Joints there's toxins in there body's attacking that so it's happening more to women largely
01:00:45
because well this is this this could go dark real fast but largely because we
01:00:51
have so many influences that are affecting our our horm hormones so the
01:00:56
best way I can explain this is something I call the hormonal hierarchy where our sex hormones are going to be completely
01:01:04
thrown off by insulin so when you get insulin resistant your sex hormones are off and insulin is going to be so
01:01:13
impacted by cortisol so when you're stressed all the time you're going to be insulin resistant and when you're
01:01:18
insulin insulin resistant you're going to have trouble balancing estrogen progesterone and testosterone but at the
01:01:24
top of the hierarchy is oxy toin and oxytocin is that we're getting oxytocin
01:01:30
right now just from connecting with each other and it'll calm start to calm cortisol down and then when it calms
01:01:36
cortisol down you can be more insulin sensitive and when you can be more insulin sensitive now your sex hormones can can balance better so we need that
01:01:43
hierarchy as as women to be in balance in order for our bodies to be in Balance
01:01:50
but what do we have women doing right now we have poor diet lots of stress uh
01:01:55
and our our sex hormones are way off which sugar and sugar you're going after the sugar yeah so women are are are
01:02:04
perishing within this modern world more than men so we've got to help a woman bring
01:02:11
back more insulin sensitiv sensitivity we got to get her doing better uh Stress
01:02:16
Management and when we do that now the immune system can regulate now the immune system can calm down and stop
01:02:23
being so hyperactive attacking all the toxins that are in the body so it's very complex does that imply that women and
01:02:30
men have a different relationship with stress oh yeah yeah yeah for sure we're
01:02:36
not I okay so I'm gonna I'm gonna be as bold as to say this and I know all my my
01:02:42
feminist women out there are not going to like this and I I was raised by a strong woman I am a strong woman I've
01:02:49
raised another strong woman and I have to tell you that we are not meant to
01:02:54
handle the stress loads as well as men and that's largely because of two
01:03:00
hormones so estrogen makes us very out outward makes us very much an extrovert
01:03:06
and we can handle a lot of stress when when estrogen is present in our body but
01:03:12
progesterone she can't handle stress at all so progesterone will start to
01:03:18
diminish a as cortisol goes up I always say when when cortisol goes High progesterone becomes shy so now we're I
01:03:26
the number of women since fast like a girl came out that I have heard from the 20 and 30 year olds that have no cycle
01:03:34
none that is because they're insulin resistant they're more stressed progesterone's not making her appearance
01:03:40
so there's no shed of the uterine lining that is absolutely a stress issue and
01:03:45
not having a period for a woman is a major problem because that's how we detox that's how we get these hormones
01:03:51
out of us so if you're not having a cycle you're not getting rid of estrogen you're not getting rid of so many toxins
01:03:57
and it's just staying inside of you that's that's a major
01:04:06
problem controversial idea but it rings true for a lot of people yeah and I know
01:04:11
this because I've had women very close to me in my life talk to me about this exact thing and
01:04:17
um specifically not having their menstrual cycle and then focusing on the stresses in their
01:04:25
life and then comes back the menstrual cycle coming back um people very very close to me in fact that I've I've
01:04:32
struggled with because of this exact challenge yeah it is a controversial idea though
01:04:38
isn't it it's a it's slightly problematic um as an idea is there any
01:04:44
scientific basis for that idea well we know based off science that when
01:04:49
cortisol goes up progesterone goes down cortisol is the stress hormone yeah so when you're under stress cortisol goes
01:04:55
up and so if you're let's say it's the week before your period That's when you're supposed to have the most amount of
01:05:01
progesterone if it doesn't matter if you're trying to run a marathon doesn't matter if you have a work deadline
01:05:06
doesn't matter if you're skiing on sleep as long as cortisol is going up progesterone is not going to make her
01:05:11
appearance and if she doesn't make her appearance then the uterine lining won't shed that's that's been proven over and
01:05:17
over every hormone expert would agree multiple studies but women don't realize
01:05:22
that so we if there's ever a time to mind your stress it's the week before
01:05:28
your period which is why you don't fast the week before your period because that's a that's a bit of a stressor it's
01:05:34
why you shouldn't train for you know a big Spartan Race or a crossfitting event
01:05:39
or a run a marathon you should be doing more yoga and Recovery the week before your period this is why we should
01:05:46
prioritize sleep the week before our periods because that we don't want cortisol up so in a in an interesting
01:05:52
world this is sort of the vision I have for women right now is what if there is this moment where
01:05:58
the week before our period we have the the capability of maybe not working as
01:06:04
hard they're like Spain they're giving a three-day menstrual leave to women they with no questions asked
01:06:12
before before the period or well it's no questions asked they anticipated it that
01:06:17
women would use it the first three days of her period but a woman can use it any time I say use it the three days before
01:06:24
your cycle is supposed to come interesting Have you shared this idea
01:06:31
before publicly uh I've on several podcasts I've talked about it I had a great interview with Kate northrip um on
01:06:38
my podcast and she's an entrepreneur and she actually Maps her whole business
01:06:44
cycle around her menstrual cycle and so we had a beautiful conversation about this and she said that she doesn't do as
01:06:52
many Zoom calls she tells her team that she's going to take get get off uh work a little bit earlier on those days she
01:06:59
slows everything down her workload goes dramatically down and she said what ended up happening is that when her
01:07:05
period started her productivity went up so see what when estrogen comes in on on
01:07:11
starting day one day two of our menstrual cycles estrogen makes us really mentally clear makes us very
01:07:18
verbal estrogen's an incredible hormone for productivity but if you aren't minding
01:07:24
that back half of your cycle and you're not slowing down then then you're coming into your period
01:07:30
and you're having you hear so many women who are like I'm cramping I'm bleeding a lot it's really painful that's because
01:07:36
you didn't mind the back half of your cycle and what's the sort of evolutionary basis for all of this why
01:07:41
is the body doing this why is the body um not going to give us our periods I mean listen I don't have a period but um
01:07:48
well I have a version of it right I'm sure men have some kind of you guys you guys have a you work off a 24-hour cycle
01:07:54
okay so every 15 minutes you get testosterone okay you know we joke about
01:07:59
that right what do you say you J behind our backs kind of what' you say the joke is
01:08:05
like if you don't like what your husband's saying just ask him in 15 minutes he might say something different oh that's what you've been say oh just
01:08:11
letting you in on what might be going on behind the scenes okay so what is the
01:08:17
evolutionary basis for why why that is true so think about yeah let's go back
01:08:24
to our Primal days so you know testosterone is meant to have you go out
01:08:30
and Hunt it's some very motivating it's you get it every 15 minutes so you know God this sounds as I'm saying it sounds
01:08:36
so sexist but when we look at the body this is actually how we're built so you
01:08:42
were your body was driven to go hunt and go find and Go Achieve that's the number
01:08:48
one hormone that it works off of for the women what our we are meant to be more
01:08:55
outgoing before ovulation okay why is that oh we need to connect we need to
01:09:02
start to feel that that mental Clarity you know estrogen makes your hair really
01:09:07
like full and your skin really glow and it starts to make us more beautiful all leading up to to ovulation once
01:09:15
ovulation hits now we have estrogen at our Peak we have a little bit of testosterone and we have a little bit of
01:09:21
progesterone okay well why is that because now we our libidos up we're
01:09:26
motivated to reproduce we're looking beautiful because we have so much estrogen going through our body we're
01:09:33
verbal we can connect and we have progesterone to keep us calm so we're supposed to reproduce when ovulation
01:09:40
hits and then the back half technically we would be have a fertilized egg and we
01:09:46
would be winding down and if we didn't get a fertilized egg then we're supposed to relax so we
01:09:52
can go back and do the extroverted piece of our elves in the front half of our cycle so it's all based off of
01:09:59
reproduction so I need some advice then because I'm in a relationship and I want to understand I guess this goes both
01:10:05
ways I want my girlfriend to understand how hormones are influencing my behavior and I want to know how hormones are
01:10:11
influencing her behavior yeah what advice have you got for me well the first is do you know her
01:10:20
cycle moving on we're going to talk about sugar again no no this is too good
01:10:26
so sugar it's really bad isn't it who's to blame no seriously tell me about your
01:10:32
childhood know get to know her cycle I'm GNA give you I'm Gonna Give You gold now
01:10:38
let me give you gold okay so day one of her cycle day one to day 10 she's
01:10:44
building estrogen first couple of days of her cycle just let her be like she you know that she's transitioning out of
01:10:50
the back half of her cycle she might be having some heavier bleeding you know she's moving into that extroverted place
01:10:56
so the first two days give her some space now day three estrogen's starting to to build so you're going to notice
01:11:03
she's more verbal she's going to be more present she might feel more outgoing she's going to feel like she wants to
01:11:08
connect with you that's going to go all the way through ovulation like in the
01:11:14
middle of ovulation which is about day 12 day 13 where all of a sudden estrogens at its peak if you have any
01:11:21
conflict you want to resolve with her do it between like day two and day 12 of
01:11:26
her cycle she's going to be so ready to handle any conflict with you between let
01:11:32
me write that down day day two and day 12 day two like literally my battles I had a I had a dad
01:11:39
come to me and tell me that he was struggling to understand his teenage daughter and I said well do you know her
01:11:45
cycle and he was like no I don't I said well you would never ever bring a conflict to her on day 18 or 19 of her
01:11:53
cycle bring it to her on day 10 10 and now she's going to talk to you I'm going
01:11:58
to say something which is really embarrassing here I know nothing about menstrual cycles and no point in my life
01:12:04
did anybody teach me about menstrual cycles the only Insight I have in my life to what a menstrual cycle is is
01:12:11
overhearing my sister when I was younger talking about it yeah and when I say
01:12:16
overhearing I mean maybe a sentence and then maybe my girlfriend once in a while she'll say oh I'm coming into my cycle
01:12:22
or whatever she'll say I'm on my period that's for most men that's in fact the extent of the education we have about
01:12:27
the female reproductive um menal menstrual cycles y so talk to me like I'm an idiot about
01:12:33
the menstrual cycle yeah how long is it oh I love this and do you know that most
01:12:39
women don't know oh really so I mean most women are ignorant to their own Cycles so it's 28 days anywhere from 28
01:12:45
days to 32 every woman has a different length okay and what day does the period come on day one so day one is the first
01:12:51
day she bleeds okay then how long that lost for what seven days uh it everyone's different anywhere from three
01:12:57
to seven days okay so day you said day between day two and 12 is when to pick
01:13:03
my battles yes so day two you're going to start to see her being emerge a little more gregarious she may be a
01:13:09
little more outgoing so I mean as she get closer to day 12 you want to go party with her you want to take her out
01:13:15
make her feel good like that's the time to whine and dine her okay cool we'll put all the dates then and the fights
01:13:21
and then after day 12 what am I doing then after day well okay so day 12 is
01:13:27
right when she's ovulating so you're GNA have to choose your battle there but ovulation occurs for most women between
01:13:33
day 10 and day 15 there's a small little five-day window there that's if this is
01:13:39
a when once I figured this out I was like why don't why don't men know this um that's when she's going to be her
01:13:44
libido is going to be the highest okay so we're having sex one day yes so if you want to have sex with her I'm just writing this down have sex with her
01:13:51
around that time around that time if she's willing yeah she's going to be more motivated cuz she has testosterone
01:13:56
she's going to feel more like it okay then after she finishes ovulating off day 15 yeah so then there's going to be a crash of hormones you might see a
01:14:02
change in her personality she might feel a little low go stay in a hotel but you could ask you know like if
01:14:10
she's having a bummer day like or a low day ask her do you know what day your cycle are you on be really nice be
01:14:16
really nice really nice and then here's the gold here's gold this is so good you're going to have to report back to me how this works uh when around day 17
01:14:24
or 18 Gest drones coming in this is where you got to give her foot rubs you got to be extra special and cater her
01:14:32
like like she's the queen that she deserves to be okay so all my compliments that's where I pull out the
01:14:37
notepad but what you need to know is she's probably going to be like if you're like oh you look so beautiful today she might at that time be like no
01:14:45
I feel horrible I'm bloated I'm I don't feel beautiful but and I should disagree
01:14:50
I should say no you no you you're no you don't you look amazing okay cool and you do that till she bleeds and you take
01:14:57
amazing care of her in the back the week before her period and you will get kudos like you you can't even imagine and then
01:15:03
start it all over again and then start it all over again got you yeah I mean just once you understand our patterns
01:15:09
and then it also helps you understand that we're going to be more outgoing in the front half of our cycle we're going to be more introverted in the back half
01:15:15
what about men you guys every 15 minutes you you're pretty you're pretty black
01:15:21
and white really yeah you're pretty straightforward so if she was asking you the same
01:15:26
question about me would you say anything to her about my hormone Cycles at all you you just say what it it really depends on the issue at hand so if it's
01:15:34
a a a mismatch of libido then the best time to have sex with a woman is during
01:15:41
ovulation okay which because she has the most amount of testosterone day 10 to 15 of her CLE it would be really handy
01:15:46
wouldn't it just to have a little menstrual cycle chart on the wall at home I know that sounds a bit strange
01:15:52
but just so I know what's going on inside bud I the first time I discovered this I started using an app called The
01:15:59
Clue app yeah and it shows you in a circle it kind of shows a little cloud and then it shows you where PMs Clicks
01:16:05
in and it actually has a button that you can share it with people in your life
01:16:11
and I thought not only does my husband need this but my staff needs this they need to understand where I'm going and
01:16:18
what if all the women on my on my team actually shared it with each other and we could see where each other was at in
01:16:24
the menstrual cycle we would understand why a woman's moods can be so up and down it's really you know it because of
01:16:31
these three hormones our moods are much more volatile than yours you guys are
01:16:37
pretty steady Edy we're a and this is general you know this is I hate to be
01:16:42
sexist in this conversation but this is hormones and the way they work it's actually really helpful to know this
01:16:49
because without this Insight it's very easy to fall into the Trap of just
01:16:55
assuming your partner is Moody or that they are they have like mood swings or
01:17:01
that they're you know people say things like they're too emotional or they're whatever it might be but with this I
01:17:07
actually think it creates a ton of empathy yeah that's certainly the reaction that I get from hearing that
01:17:12
there's a there's significant hormone fluctuations in my partner and they happen at certain periods it actually now would change my behavior the way
01:17:20
that I receive certain times where I come home or I'm I that my my my partner
01:17:26
is just different Y and it's almost it catches me off guard sometimes I've actually we've spoken a lot about this and we're very open we're very much the
01:17:34
same person in terms of our willingness to talk about everything um and very difficult things as well yeah and there
01:17:39
will be times where um I come home or we go through a patch where just a week you know things
01:17:46
are making her upset which wouldn't normally make her upset just tiny things that I'm doing and I go I what that's it
01:17:55
like yeah you know so see if you can track that to a certain part of her cycle oh I'm kidding so like the week
01:18:00
before our period we're pretty we're irritable and every time I say that men go well you said it I didn't say it well
01:18:08
but that's because progesterone we you know we're meant to be more inner we're meant to sit on the couch we're also
01:18:13
meant Believe It or Not glucose goes higher the week before our period so We crave carbs there's a reason We crave
01:18:19
carbs because we need to bring glucose up to be able to make progesterone so We crave carbs we're irritable we don't
01:18:26
want a lot of cortisol so generally we're a little bit slower we don't want to you know we don't have the desire to
01:18:32
push through stress and push through exercise and so we're going to be we're a little we're different that week where
01:18:39
so if you come up and you just put your hand on our shoulder and you're like I love you you're amazing I'm here if you
01:18:45
need anything that's all you got to do but if you're trying to resolve a big conflict or you're trying to come at us
01:18:53
in in too aggressive of a way we will shut down the week before our periods so interesting whereas if you
01:19:00
have something you want to resolve with us make sure estrogen's there because estrogen makes us great great verbal our
01:19:06
verbal skills are incredible when estrogen's around ask any menopausal woman she'll tell you what it's like when she loses estrogen and I have to
01:19:14
say this is because you know women have this incredible power to create life
01:19:21
yeah that us men don't have it's like women are super Heroes for being able to
01:19:26
carry a baby for significant amounts of time and then give birth to this baby it's just the most magical thing that I
01:19:32
can think of in existence and women have that superpower and with that comes the cycle yeah so it's a wonderful thing
01:19:40
it's beautiful and the in in the book I called it the manifestation phase
01:19:45
ovulation because when all of those hormones come in we can manifest
01:19:51
anything we want but it's not just a baby this is a great time ovulation is
01:19:56
an amazing time to start a new business project interesting it's a great time like as an author like I'm going to
01:20:04
write during those five days because my creativity is going to be at its peak so
01:20:09
we're highly creative if you want to like you know talk about something about life and how to create something with us
01:20:15
do it during ovulation your husband is behind that wall here in my
01:20:22
home and does is he aware of your menstrual cycle he he is until I started
01:20:27
to lose it I'm 53 so I'm it's starting to go um but yeah we talk like this all
01:20:33
the time and and the way I like to to I like to take ownership over my hormonal
01:20:39
moods so I will say to him after a long day of work I will say hey it's been a
01:20:46
testosterone driven day for me I don't feel like I have a lot of estrogen right
01:20:52
now I can't handle a lot of stress I'm going to need to just take some time to myself we literally talk like that we
01:21:01
um losing the menstrual cycle we the first time I started as a young man that hasn't been exposed to that at any point
01:21:07
in my sort of you know in the education system or other um the first time I
01:21:13
started to understand what menopause was and premenopause and Par menopause all these things was from guests that have
01:21:18
come here and it's such a big it was such a big light bulb moment for me
01:21:23
because I have um women in my life that are going through that phase of life and
01:21:28
I feel like they are so misunderstood in so many ways thank you and I love hearing about it now um because it's
01:21:35
going to help me relate to those women in a better way and have and understand how I can
01:21:40
be a partner with them through that phase of life like you know certain members of my family that are going
01:21:46
through that phase of Life what do what do we need to know as men but also as women about menopause per menopause and
01:21:53
all those things thank you thank you for asking I think that we're the most misunderstood um age group of women and
01:22:02
with the 45 to 55 year old in that decade is the most common time for women
01:22:07
to commit suicide really yeah this is why my next book I'm writing right now is on the mental health of menopausal
01:22:14
women because we're struggling and so the first thing you have to know is that after 40 our sex hormones start to
01:22:21
decline so estrogen goes up and down so one day you're going to experience if
01:22:26
you have if you live with a 43y old woman you're going to experience she's great next day you're going to be like
01:22:32
who are you that's because her estrogen is on a roller coaster ride so that's the first thing to know second thing is
01:22:39
that progesterone is plummeting after 40 they actually say now at 35 progesterone is starting to go down so as
01:22:47
progesterone goes down we are less stress resilient so little things are
01:22:52
going to irritate us like they've never irritated us before and you might be the recipient of that so if you find we're
01:23:00
very triggerable it's because we're losing progesterone so we need to we
01:23:05
just need to have more breaks we need more nurturing like I explained in the menstrual cycle we need to have more
01:23:11
love brought our way because we just can't handle stress the same way and
01:23:16
then as as ultimately estrogen finally goes into a place where she's non-existent once a woman doesn't have
01:23:22
her cycle we can't hold on to information the way the same way we used to be able to we forget things and it's
01:23:30
really frustrating to us and so when people around us like I went through this with my team when I was trying to
01:23:37
get my menopausal hormones in check they would say well you already told us that yes you reminded us of that and I
01:23:44
started finding I was repeating myself and then I realized oh I'm at a new
01:23:49
level of low of estrogen and then I worked you know getting a working with some bio identicals working with some
01:23:55
lifestyle to bring my estrogen up but from 40 till about
01:24:01
55 that is about a 10 to 15 year period where the woman's brain has to
01:24:06
recalibrate to these loss of hormones and so our moods are all over the place
01:24:12
during that time so understanding where we're at having more compassion for us
01:24:18
not taking us on um and just helping us understand ourselves which is largely
01:24:24
what I'm trying to do through my books is will be so helpful but we don't even
01:24:30
understand our own selves menopausal moods are are treacherous it's an extreme
01:24:36
sport it literally is an extreme sport it's brutal what about off the 45 she said 40 to 45 yeah so once we actually
01:24:43
go a whole year without a period we actually do better so the brain is used
01:24:49
to the less hormones so when we get on the other side postmenopausal we actually are great uh
01:24:55
we're women that once they go to that side of the hormonal process tend to
01:25:02
actually be you know we have so much wisdom I'd like to think um we actually
01:25:07
tend to be the opposite of everything I just said we tend to be more stress uh
01:25:13
we can handle stress better we tend to be more gregarious our libido goes back up our as our brain starts to
01:25:19
recalibrate we become a better version of ourselves and it's that first phase that 40 to 45 phase what's that phase
01:25:25
called is that the that's per menopause per menopause and then menopause is beyond 45 yeah the average age for
01:25:31
menopause right now is about 52 although a lot of women are going in around 45
01:25:37
sometimes earlier okay but but I think that if there was one thing I want want I could
01:25:44
help the world understand is that we're trying to understand ourselves during
01:25:49
that time so be patient with us because we may not we may react much different
01:25:55
than you've ever seen us react before so we have to get to know ourselves from a new lens that's the
01:26:03
gift that menopause actually gives us and if you allow us to do that when we make it through to the postmenopausal
01:26:09
years you're going to have a beautiful wise wonderful woman on the other side of that it's just that transition into
01:26:17
per menopause is really a a treacherous one it's so interesting it's so I find
01:26:23
it agreeing that no one told me this at any point in my life agreed um because
01:26:29
irrespective of whether you are a woman or not and you're going to go through that you're going to um your
01:26:35
relationships with women are going to be integral to your life unavoidably your mother your grandmother your partner so
01:26:42
having the Insight gives me the empathy I love it you know and that's what that's why I'm so fortunate from having
01:26:48
this conversation it was Gabby Logan who came on this podcast de mcco who wrote a book about menopause in the end and knew that I've really helped to open my eyes
01:26:55
about that and um it's interesting I just I don't know what it is I think growing up like men just don't want to
01:27:01
talk about periods and menstrual cycles and all of these kinds of things they're almost Taboo in a weird way I call it in
01:27:07
the new book I'm writing I'm calling it the cultural hush yeah I think we have a cultural hush around the menstrual cycle
01:27:14
around menopause I can't tell you the number of men since fast like a girl that has come out that read that book
01:27:21
and they go to the chapter on women and hormones and then they come and find me and say I finally understand my wife
01:27:28
yeah I finally understand my daughter well why aren't we talking about that and then how many women we don't we
01:27:34
don't talk about like the fact that I'm I'm suffering because I don't have as much estro estrogen it it would we don't
01:27:41
have a culture or a society that allows us to talk like that and that's what I think is is Shifting right now so many
01:27:48
menopause books are coming out big people you know Oprah is starting to do a whole thing on menopause like the
01:27:54
conversation's opening up but it's going to take bravery from women to step up I mean I'm a very very capable woman who
01:28:01
has a beautiful family and a great business it's really hard for me to say
01:28:07
I can't do one more zoom call my brain can't do it that feels like failure and then we have the other side
01:28:15
of this which is we have the men that are like why are you being a [ __ ] today it's like because I don't have the
01:28:21
hormone to stop me from being a [ __ ] today so those those kind of conversations are not hand happening but
01:28:28
if we did it with more empathy if we could express ourself like hey I just need to I need a break right now is just
01:28:33
a lot on my hormones give me 30 minutes give me an hour I can come back and be a better version I just need to take care
01:28:39
of myself now someone's going to be listening to this and they're going to think H it's not a problem you can just go get the hormones you can just go get
01:28:46
some HRT it's called HRT right HRT yeah you can go get some HRT throw that at the
01:28:53
problem then you'll have your hormones back yeah so this is this is the big
01:28:59
thing is that just because you take a hormone doesn't mean your cells are going to use it so if you take let's use
01:29:06
let's use uh thyroids a perfect example because so many women specifically take
01:29:11
thyroid medication and they don't see any any any change in their thyroid symptoms it's called an exogenous
01:29:18
hormone you bring it into your body the body registers that it's there the gut
01:29:23
and the have to still break that hormone down into a usable form so if your gut
01:29:29
is off or your liver is overloaded you're not going to break that hormone down once that hormone's broken down the
01:29:35
cell has to be able to receive it if that cell is inflamed with a lot of
01:29:40
toxic oils and endocrine disruptors there's no way to get the hormone into the cell so there are three very pivotal
01:29:47
pieces you got to there has to be production of the hormone there has to be breaking down of the hormone and
01:29:53
there has to be receiving of the hormone so when you take HRT you're only handling one of those things you still
01:29:59
and lifestyle this is why I'm such a so passionate about lifestyle lifestyle can handle the other two they can take care
01:30:05
of the gut and the liver they can open up the cell so it can receive HRT I I've
01:30:11
been uh I wrote a book called The menopause reset and it'll come out in we're reissuing it in uh June and one of
01:30:18
the things in there is I I mapped out five lifestyle changes that women should do after 40 and in that book I lived
01:30:26
that I did that through my whole 40s I didn't start doing bioidenticals till like 52 but I had my lifestyle dialed in
01:30:33
first and now bioidenticals are working well people are sat there going five
01:30:39
Lifestyle Changes they want to know what they are they're gonna they're going to buy the book as well aren't we we're
01:30:45
gonna buy the book and we're going to find out right now yes okay well what do you think the first one is fasting yes
01:30:52
there you go the first one's fasting uh so and and actually fast like a girl came after the menopause reset because
01:30:59
all the women asked me well what if I have a site you know what if I'm in my 30s what if I'm in my 20s how should I
01:31:05
fast so that's you know that was sort of the birth of that book so fasting second one is you have to learn to cycle your
01:31:12
food so you ketogenic diet works really well at certain times cycle your food
01:31:18
cycle your food Styles what does that mean so if in the front half if you have
01:31:24
a menstrual cycle yeah in the front half when estrogen's coming in go keto keep carbs low keep glucose low you're great
01:31:32
back half of your cycle when progesterone's coming in raise glucose so don't go keto but do Nature's carbs
01:31:39
do more fruits do more squashes potatoes that's going to help with building progesterone so the per menopausal woman
01:31:47
has to learn that there's times to bring carbs down and there's times to bring carbs up and that's what I explain in
01:31:53
that I called it keto variations in that book so that's step two step three
01:31:59
microbiome you got to pay attention to your microbiome too many women have been on birth control for decades they go
01:32:04
screaming into their per menopausal years and their microbiomes and is completely off we have a whole set of
01:32:10
bacteria in our gut called the estrobolome which is the bacteria that break estrogen down so you need to be
01:32:17
eating more leafy green vegetables more nuts and seeds olives chocolate even is
01:32:22
great for the microbiome so I list all those Foods out in there and then number go ahead and that's for stage two of the
01:32:29
three steps to act these hormone replacement therapy is actually working which is being able to metabolize the
01:32:35
hormone break it down yes you got it okay step four you got it you're going to be a hormone expert after this well
01:32:40
you know not just a pretty face yeah so then the fourth one is watch your toxic load so we talked about that and then
01:32:47
step five is my favorite um and it's stop being a rushing woman yeah I know
01:32:53
as I tell you from a rushing lifestyle we need more as we go through per menopause we need more more downtime
01:33:02
you got to schedule more downtime you need to let that nervous system come down you can't go through your par
01:33:08
menopausal years and Thrive if you are go go go all the time it will catch up with you and so you've got to bring in
01:33:15
more mindfulness more meditation more yoga more more vacations more nose
01:33:22
that's got to be a part of your repertoire you might have gotten away with it at 35 but you won't get away with it at
01:33:29
45 I was thinking then as you speaking I was thinking about how I kind of summarize all of these points into how
01:33:36
we should be living Our Lives as men and women because obviously we've got dragged into a consumerist
01:33:42
workaholic sugar overloaded toxin ridden life because of because we've been
01:33:48
unconscious yeah you know so we that's the way that cor corporations
01:33:54
and media narrative and social media algorithms have taken us so I was thinking if we could just pause for a
01:33:59
second and we could rewrite the blueprint of what it is to be a human and how to
01:34:05
live let's try and rewrite that so how would I work as a man and a woman what
01:34:11
would be the the differences how many days a week what if you if you were in charge now of rewriting that which you
01:34:17
might be one day I'd like to be you'd like to be okay so you're taking on the responsibility so how would men and
01:34:22
women work and and you mean from a business yeah like a professional standpoint okay well let's start with a
01:34:28
man yeah so well both men and women we have two nervous systems one that speeds
01:34:33
us up one that relax that slows us down so you could be in a speed up mode most
01:34:40
of the time I would say you just need to make sure I mean it really actually I just thought about this right now the
01:34:47
the patriarchal Work Week works really well for men Monday through F Friday
01:34:53
work your fanny off Saturday and Sunday take it off now you're you're moving in and out of your parasympathetic and
01:35:01
sympathetic nervous system and you're giving both of them a break you are not meant to be working 247 seven days a
01:35:08
week you know like you're not meant to be working all the time and and never taking a break what would you make the work hours for a man well I'm I'm a big
01:35:16
fan of working in the daylight and resting we're supposed to rest when it's dark okay so winter you would work less
01:35:22
summer you would work more okay we do the opposite right we take more vacation in the summer women so
01:35:29
women we would design our whole work week around our menstrual cycle so we
01:35:35
could go Full Tilt all the way till day 19 day 20 and then we would we would
01:35:41
take a week off and we would bow out so instead of doing it in a weekly amount
01:35:47
like you guys would be doing we'd be doing it in a monthly amount and how long would you bow out for well ideally
01:35:52
it depends on each woman's going to be a little different but I would say anywhere from I want to say seven days
01:35:59
if it worked for a schedule until you bleed so day 20 till you know if you're
01:36:05
if day 21 till day 28 you would do it for a week bowing out might also look
01:36:11
like I just am not going to take on the the high load that I normally do the
01:36:17
rest of the month maybe I'll cut it in half mhm maybe work from home or yeah yeah maybe I work from home maybe I
01:36:24
can't do my workload and my extreme exercise and go socialize with my friends during that week I just need to
01:36:30
start to slow everything down so that's what I I want to say about bowing out is
01:36:35
that it's just you're putting yourself first and you're slowing everything down
01:36:41
now eating men and women eating yeah so men um I think as far as food I agree
01:36:48
with just keeping blood sugar stable is great I think you guys really work well off of a meat based an animal uh diet I
01:36:55
don't think you have more you have more testosterone which means you have more muscle we the way that we build muscle
01:37:01
and keep muscle strong is through amino acids and you get that in meat so for men I feel like that Primal diet the
01:37:09
paleo diet was meat and vegetables and fruit is amazing I think that's that's perfect I don't think refined flowers
01:37:16
and sugars um that we get are exposed to I think that over in an overabundance
01:37:22
they'll hurt men too and we're seeing that with metabolic syndrome women we do
01:37:27
well with Meats I you know um I think we need less of it because we have less
01:37:33
testosterone so we may need less of it although it is important protein is important especially as we age so I
01:37:39
don't want to lose sight on that um but we also need to bring glucose up so we need more fruits we're going to need
01:37:45
more squashes we're going to need more potatoes and that's you know all built around your menstrual cycle so eating
01:37:52
times uh I'm I'm not a fan of eating when it's dark out because when me melatonin goes up insulin you become
01:37:59
more insulin resistant so I'm a fan of which means what it means you so your
01:38:05
your body won't process the glucose from that meal as efficiently when it's dark out it won't take it away and store it
01:38:11
or it needs to be stor as energy exactly it will store it as fat or something or uh yeah it's going to store it as fat if
01:38:16
it can't if insulin can't drive it into the cell for energy it'll stored as fat so the meal you eat at 9:30 is going to
01:38:22
be stored more as fat than if you have that same meal at 5:30 I know so night eers aren't doing
01:38:30
themselves any favors no so we go back to our Primal friends right like let's
01:38:35
go back and use that if if if people get lost in these theories so they didn't have electricity they sat around the
01:38:42
fire so most likely they ate during light hours and then the women what did
01:38:48
the women do if we go back and look at at cultures around our period we were actually that's the whole Red Tent ideas
01:38:55
we were SE sequestered off into another part of the of the tribe we didn't have
01:39:01
to do as many chores we went more into an introverted place if you go back and you study what we did in those days it
01:39:07
was very much along those lines and we're just not doing that now what about supplements what supplements would you
01:39:14
have men and women consuming uh well for women the most
01:39:20
important supplement she could ever take is magnesium magnesium makes every single hormone in your body for men I
01:39:28
would say the most important supplement I mean there's a lot of them um but for hormones zinc because zinc makes
01:39:35
testosterone outside of that for both men and women the other supplement and the other measurement that we all need
01:39:41
to be looking at are vitamin D levels yeah I've learned this from guest on this podcast I've started taking Vitamin
01:39:46
D supplements yeah if your vitamin D is under 30 you are in a a critically uh
01:39:53
depressed immune State uh so you got to get it definitely over 30 for hormonal
01:39:59
Health we need to see it more up in about 60 70 to have your hormones be working at their best so this this goes
01:40:06
back to like the HRT thing if all if we're taking HRT but our vitamin D is 20
01:40:12
that HRT isn't going to be as effective as as compared to the woman who has an HRT of like 55 or 60 or a vitamin D of
01:40:20
55 or 60 that HRT will work better interesting and and vitamin D comes from
01:40:26
sunlight doesn't it sunlight and uh sardines sardines it's the food sources
01:40:33
are really bad this is why everybody's low in it the food sources are it's sardines it's like really fatty fishes
01:40:40
um and sunlight and we spend most of our time indoors that's right we can't get it from this kind of light right no no
01:40:46
and you have to be outside with your like skin exposed at the high point of the day of the sun like 12 12
01:40:54
1:00 to get the most vitamin D and if you're in air a city where there's more
01:40:59
air pollution study has shown that that you're not going to the Rays that come in that turn you uh that will hit your
01:41:05
skin and turn it into Vitamin D are less because air pollution blocks it which is why so many people are low in vitamin D
01:41:12
which is why taking vitamin D is a smart thing is that why people are doing these like infrared saas and stuff now does
01:41:18
that produce vitamin D or is that something else that's more detox oh detox it's pushing infrared it what it
01:41:24
does is it uh simulates a fever so it burns things out from the inside of the
01:41:30
cell out which is why it's a really good detoxer there was a few things you said when I was watching some of your YouTube
01:41:35
videos that I wrote down that I found really compelling one of them was you said about the importance of opening up
01:41:40
our our detox Pathways and you just mentioned detoxing there what do you mean by opening up our detox Pathways
01:41:47
yeah so if you look at our lymph system each the lymph is is like you know
01:41:52
people know lymph nodes because when you get sick you can feel them Ms you get yeah yeah so the lymph is always
01:41:58
carrying toxins out of organs so Li the liver has a lymph pathway the gut has
01:42:03
lymph nodes in there that are going to pull all the toxins that are in there and move them out of you so we need to
01:42:10
keep these lymph Pathways open so the gut the gut's a great one you should be having a bowel movement every single day
01:42:17
if you're not having a bowel movement every single day then the what's what the body's trying to get rid of stain
01:42:23
inside of you and it gets congested um a thing we teach women about the armpit
01:42:29
and and actually would work for men too is that you're you should have a pit not a puff what do that mean if it's a puff
01:42:36
like look in the mirror and if your armpit is a puff then that's stagnant lymph it means that you're not pulling
01:42:42
the the toxins for women that are coming out of her breast are not getting out toxins that are coming out from the head
01:42:48
down into the uh into the thoracic area is not getting out because it's congested so your underarm is Puffy and
01:42:55
not like a pit yeah then you might be storing some of those toxins that's right and they're not moving they're not
01:43:01
mobilizing why aren't they am I blocking my Pathways yeah the pathways blocked so
01:43:07
with what well there's the question you with I feel like people are going to leave this podcast to be so depressed
01:43:13
because there's so many pieces of this but uh deodorant deodorant clogs that up
01:43:19
and so it doesn't mobilize all of the toxins out this was a big big thing with breast cancer is a lot of women using
01:43:25
toxic deodorants they weren't getting the toxins out of the breast and it was clogging in the armpit because of the
01:43:30
toxins from the deodorant that explains why we sweat in that area right yeah because it's a
01:43:36
pathway why do we even have hair in that area I don't know you tell me it's a detox it's for detoxing it's to help get
01:43:43
those toxins out oh so the molecules go down the hair yeah yeah and what do women do shave it off that's right so
01:43:51
you're saying I I I shave I I'm I just because I don't
01:43:57
I can't walk it's just not in my in my nature but I you know what I do is I have a loofah in my shower and I just
01:44:04
loofah under my arms at whenever I shower to open up those Pathways what's a lofa it's like a little organic sponge
01:44:11
ah okay it scrubs it yeah scrubs it we also have pubic hair we also have pubic hair we are getting toxins out from the
01:44:18
ovaries the ovaries are the major area for and testes this is where hormones are being produced and so as they're
01:44:25
coming out they are supposed to influence our everything biologically we need them to influence but then they're
01:44:31
also supposed to get out of our system and so the hair ends up becoming like this way that we can mobilize the toxins
01:44:38
out of us I never want I never knew or asked why I grow hair under my arms and
01:44:45
in the pubic region no one ever told me about that no one ever I never questioned it I thought it was slightly
01:44:53
inconvenience yes well it is for sure but the body doesn't do anything to inconvenience you it does it to increase
01:44:59
your chances of survival because I'm the byproduct of millions of years of
01:45:05
survival of the fittest and evolution that has made me pruned a sculpted to
01:45:11
survive it's funny because we spend so much of our time and this goes back to the conversation around sugar we spend and just weight loss and all these
01:45:18
things we live in a world where we think that our body is against us right it's fighting us it's it's making me go for
01:45:23
the sugar drawer it's stopping me losing weight it's growing all these pubes
01:45:29
right inconvenient yeah yeah yeah yeah and then we fight it we shave it off and we you know do all these crazy things to
01:45:35
fight against our body but our body is very much it's it's actually it's actually for us and many
01:45:42
of the things we're choosing to do are against us we are against ourselves not our bodies our bodies cannot put her
01:45:48
foot wrong you got it I mean you got it it's this is what I'm trying to bring
01:45:53
back is this this respect for what the body's trying to do that's what we're
01:45:59
missing we we it's all inconvenient and it's everything from
01:46:05
like even like weight gain like why is your body gaining weight because it's so
01:46:10
brilliant that it decided not to put that fat around your organs it put it around your belly and now you're looking
01:46:16
in the mirror and you're villainizing it but your body was trying to save your life in that moment like everything the
01:46:23
body is always doing for you not against you but we
01:46:28
continually discredit what it's trying to do and manipulate it which is why the best thing I can think of is that we're
01:46:34
just in an evolutionary mismatch we're just at the modern world does not line up with the human body's
01:46:43
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loss injections yeah have you seen this this no but OIC is a is a drug that's
01:48:51
really popular right now there's a couple of drugs right now there's there's one my friends were talking
01:48:56
about it and we were like there's a diabetes drug I think and the headlines have been that so many people are taking this yeah diabetes drug to lose weight
01:49:02
that people with diabetes are struggling um there's another one called
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semaglutide yep yep this is this is people injecting things in their body to
01:49:15
help them lose weight Y and the poster which my friend had sent me and i' I'd seen it earlier and then he' sent me the
01:49:20
poster as well in our group chat says one shot a week lose weight and it has the little URL someone thankfully had
01:49:26
actually ripped the URL off this billboard um what's your take on all this stuff yeah the the the new
01:49:32
medications that are out there right now are creating a weight loss uh
01:49:38
possibility when we look at the scale and when we look at how people feel when they put on their clothes but it's at
01:49:44
the expense of muscle they're actually losing more muscle than they are losing
01:49:49
fat so yes you feel thinner but it's not because you lost fat you lost muscle
01:49:56
muscle is the organ of Longevity if you lose muscle as you age you are going to
01:50:02
be in a bad situation I mean we need muscle to get out of a chair yeah you need muscle to perform daily life
01:50:09
functions the other thing people don't realize about muscle is in muscle or insulin re re uh receptors so if you
01:50:16
lose muscle you don't have as many insulin receptors which means you're now
01:50:21
putting yourself in a insulin resistant state which means you have to stay on the medication forever to be able to stay at the weight you want because you
01:50:29
don't have the same insulin sensitivity so again we're it's like the calorie in
01:50:34
calorie out short-term result long-term consequence it's not it's risky it's
01:50:40
risky and then you know every medication has a side effect but I'm more concerned about the person who thinks they solved
01:50:46
their weight loss issue and all they've done is made it worse down the road I here with many a health expert
01:50:53
and a fitness expert and nutritional experts and they all agree with what you just said about muscle they all said to
01:50:59
me cuz I asked a question to I think it was Tim Spectre about might have been jles yo asked a question about do does
01:51:05
our metabolism fall off a cliff as we age which is quite a popular thing and a
01:51:10
few of them said the same thing to me they go it at a certain point further down the line metabolism does change but
01:51:16
really the thing that changed is muscle mass and that means that we stop moving as much which means that we gain weight
01:51:21
faster so he said the number one thing that you need to do as you age is keep doing resistance training keep your
01:51:27
muscle and because I was asking him a question about my father I said I went down this really St steep cliff in
01:51:32
barley a couple of weekends before and as I was going down those stairs I was thinking my dad couldn't do this anymore
01:51:37
and at the bottom of those stairs was our activity for the day we were going white water rafting and as I was walking
01:51:43
down those stairs I was thinking I want to be my dad's age and be able to go down these stairs so I can do stuff with my kids um and getting into a place
01:51:51
where I'm a mobile at you know in my by 60 that is a choice
01:51:56
that is an unavoid that is a for most of us that is a choice and it's one that we can avoid if we keep muscle and we keep
01:52:01
therefore we'll keep fat and what youve said there from what I garnered from it is I will actually if I take those
01:52:08
chemicals and if I inject them into my body I'll lose my muscle mass and if I lose my muscle mass I will be I will
01:52:14
have a higher chance of weight gain and obesity when I'm older and the and your functionality
01:52:22
yeah so the great the perfect example that I always stuck in my head is my dad had a knee surgery and he's 86 years old
01:52:30
and I remember trying to help him get around a chair that he was sitting in and he was starting to lose his upper
01:52:36
body strength and he literally couldn't push himself up and out of the chair to be able to move into a comfortable
01:52:42
position and I thought oh my gosh that's where muscle is so important at 86 years
01:52:47
old is just being able to get up and out of a chair after after recovering from a surgery
01:52:53
but if you think about the functionality of a human as we age if you want to be able to not do as many activities like
01:53:00
you're talking about just make sure you don't have as much muscle like the minute muscle goes away your
01:53:05
functionality goes away but more importantly the minute muscle goes away you're more insulin resistant so you're
01:53:11
going to gain weight more Down The Long Haul a lot of other people would say you know the way to lose weight is just to
01:53:16
do lots of cardio run a lot yeah good
01:53:22
idea no no so here's another interesting thing and I'm going to give it through a
01:53:27
women's perspective because we're let's go back to women over 40 so cortisol
01:53:32
goes up with extra cardio uh calorie set point goes you know you're more calorie
01:53:39
output so remember that's also happening and you're changing your set point so I need more calories my calorie set point
01:53:46
goes up and my cortisol levels go up y okay okay so what ends up happening
01:53:53
is that you actually now are tanking all your other hormones so let's follow the
01:53:58
trail of progesterone cortisol goes up because you're you're doing so much cardio so progesterone goes down because
01:54:05
Carol goes up progesterone goes down well progesterone keeps estrogen in check so now estrogen can go up and if
01:54:13
you have too much estrogen eventually what's going to happen is it's going to be stored as fat so that extra hormone
01:54:19
will so long term that's not a great plan for women for women for men uh well
01:54:24
so then the second piece applies to both men and women is if you're doing a lot of cardio most likely you're breaking
01:54:32
down muscle to be able to perform that cardio and a great example is look at a marathon runner versus a tennis player
01:54:39
you know or a soccer player like even though soccer players are doing a lot of cardio it's a lot of start stop start stop but a marathon one Runner who's
01:54:46
done so much cardio is breaking muscle down to be able to do that amount of cardio so
01:54:53
it's okay to do just not at the expense of muscle and for a women you can't do it at the expense of
01:54:59
progesterone so it won't help me to lose weight doing cardio no you know what's going to help
01:55:05
you to lose weight is more weightlifting build more muscles you have more insulin
01:55:10
receptor sites fast more so you can get rid of all of the glucose that gets stored in muscles break your fast with
01:55:18
protein and yeah I mean that's what we saw we see all all the time in both my clinic and my online world is those
01:55:25
three things will get you in the shape that you want it might not remember as
01:55:30
you build muscle you're not going to lose the the the number on the scale might be that much different you know it
01:55:37
might it might not move but your whole shape is going to change you're going to look different so is any level of cardio
01:55:45
good for weight loss would you recommend that just for the the broader health benefits I you know I think cardio is
01:55:51
more of a mental health Improvement improve you know you get all those endorphins it's so good for your mental
01:55:57
health I love to go running it's my favorite thing but I do it for my mental health not to lose
01:56:03
weight another thing that I saw online which was very curious that you said is you were talking about how to undo the
01:56:09
oxidative damage from eating too much sugar yeah what do you mean by that so think about think about the cell as an
01:56:15
ecosystem right and so inside the cell there has to be a balance of all the
01:56:21
right components so when glucose goes up which happens when you eat too much sugar that balance goes off and one of
01:56:28
the byproducts of that is that your body puts off these free radicals it creates more oxidative damage within the cell
01:56:35
the more of that oxidative damage the more it's going to destroy mitochondria and the and the nucleus and all the
01:56:41
cellular parts so what you're doing when you're fasting is you're reestablishing
01:56:47
balance into the cell and you're allowing to your body to naturally un do
01:56:52
the oxidative damage that happened from poor living got you so it's like a reset on it's like a cellular reset people say
01:57:00
that there's been a school of thought that fasting breaks down muscle that I'll lose muscle if I fast true or false
01:57:06
so it appears to break down muscle you it depends on how long you're in a fast but it will appear as if your muscle is
01:57:13
shrinking because it's getting rid of the stored sugar but when you now bring
01:57:18
in a high protein meal and feed it amino acids it will grow stronger you'll see
01:57:23
more definition because it it broke the sugar down which you don't want in there so it changes the the shape of the
01:57:31
muscle makes it more lean I guess it makes it more lean but if you follow that up with good eating you're going to
01:57:38
make yourself stronger now the person who decides to go into a fast breaks down muscle and doesn't follow up with
01:57:46
good eating yeah you're going to end up with less muscle but if you follow it up with a lot of protein and you build that
01:57:52
Emptor back up now you're actually able to build your muscle even stronger
01:57:57
there's two ways to build muscle one is through weights lifting weights strength training and the other is through food
01:58:04
protein so all fasting is doing is leaning it out and does fasting have an
01:58:09
impact on my sleep uh it it can in a couple ways um
01:58:17
sleep for starters if your brain's inflamed you're not going to sleep so fasting brings down inflammation so that
01:58:23
would be the first thing um the other thing is that a lot of people wake up especially women 2 3: in the morning and
01:58:29
they kind of get the jolt out of out of bed and a lot of times that's because you've maybe had dinner at 7 o'clock
01:58:35
glucose is going down and so the body registers that glucose has gone down and
01:58:40
so it gives you a cortisol Spike and all of a sudden you wake up at 2 or 3 in the morning is that why some people wake up
01:58:46
at I've got a friend of mine that's um an elderly male and he always tells me goes oh I woke up at 3: a.m. last night
01:58:52
and he's constantly saying it he's like I woke up in the middle of the night again last night yep and I've always wondered why and we when I'm with him we
01:58:59
do eat dinner particularly late yeah yeah so he's probably getting so he has
01:59:04
all that glucose he go he goes to sleep and now the glucose starts to go down and then there's going to be a point at
01:59:10
which the body registers that it hits a new low and then it triggers it and and all of a sudden triggers uh cortisol and
01:59:16
releases glucose from other body parts and the the body takes that as we're running from a tiger get up out bed ah
01:59:22
so it wakes you up yeah and to avoid that what would you do you'd recommend not eating so late yeah not eating so
01:59:28
late but the more you fast the more you're you stabilize that blood sugar and you don't have those highs and lows
01:59:34
as much it's it's a com it's a way of bringing balance back to the whole blood sugar system I have to say you know we
01:59:41
talk a lot about I mean we've talked extensively about fasting today and one of the concerns I have about talking
01:59:47
about the subject matter is the implications it has for people with eating disorders
01:59:52
y um because it's quite easy to conflate messages if if you're not able to fully
02:00:00
understand the context of everything and I'm sure that's a topic you've you've thought about I mean you I think you
02:00:05
actually write about it in one of the the later chapters in your book in chapter 10 yep
02:00:11
um it's a it's it's a common it's it's one that we thought a lot about when we
02:00:17
wrote the book so I I I want to say that first that um when the book was put
02:00:23
together that was definitely something my agent the publisher everybody was really keen on how can we tread that
02:00:30
lightly and here's my stance on it the first is that if you have a severe
02:00:35
eating disorder I'm going to recommend that if you want to learn to fast you need to bring your therapist into it you
02:00:41
need to bring your doctor into it you need another set of eyes to help you navigate that so that would be the first
02:00:47
thing that I would say um second thing I'm going to go back to this woman that I worked with who had severe eating
02:00:52
disorders and and she's been um very very public about her eating disorders
02:00:58
and I didn't start with fasting I started with food with her so we started by stabilizing her blood sugar first and
02:01:05
then once I saw that those spikes on her glucose monitor were were in a place I wanted were more steady then I
02:01:12
introduced fasting because she was seeing food as a real healing tool and then I could put patch on fasting as a
02:01:20
as an adjunct to it and she's doing incredible incredible so you it's
02:01:26
there's just a different approach but I really encourage that you work with your practitioner or your
02:01:31
therapist where do I start I'm sold you sold me on fasting I'm going to become a
02:01:38
faster where do I start Mindy so the first place to start is you want to think about compressing your food into
02:01:45
one eating window so let me start by asking you what time do you typically finish eating dinner
02:01:52
I told you this off camera and I told you not to mention it sorry sorry okay
02:01:57
on a on a good day on an Ideal day so my my issue is um
02:02:03
I'm going to be honest because that's the point of this podcast um the issue I have is I wake up in the morning I then
02:02:10
Begin work and I'll get I'll eat my first meal this is quite shocking in fact I'll eat my first meal
02:02:16
around I'm going to say between 2:00 p.m. and
02:02:23
400 p.m. depending on how busy my schedule is sometimes there's been days I remember one particular day it's actually when I found out that I do this
02:02:29
I took someone with me for the day they were shado me for the day and it got to 7: p.m. and they go we haven't eaten today oh wow and I didn't notice I had
02:02:36
no idea that I hadn't eaten that day so I'm a very late eater but then the issue is I will go to the gym usually in the
02:02:43
evening usually after work often between 900 p.m. and 11:00 p.m. and then when I get home from the gym oh no this is I go
02:02:51
to sleep like a good boy no I this is where you go WR this is it yeah this is where it goes downhill then I'll eat
02:02:57
then I'll eat something um pretty late at night and that could be midnight so
02:03:05
you're so what I heard in that is your eating window is 2 to 12 2 to 12 yeah so
02:03:11
that you're in a you're in a 10hour eating window yeah so in in if you in the morning are you doing coffee yeah
02:03:18
yeah I do now mainly because of this podcast but okay yeah but you're not eating anything else in the morning no
02:03:25
not really no on on no I don't eat breakfast there's no days in my life where I eat breakfast really um the
02:03:32
earliest I might eat is midday okay so if you choose to make two your time that
02:03:39
you I call it opening up your eating window you're going to start eating so you would go 2 to 12 that's 10 hour
02:03:44
eating window it's not and we'll we'll work on your window here in a moment that that's leaving 14 hours of fasting
02:03:50
um about 15 18 hours you're going to start to get the testosterone increase so I would say let's can we make it a
02:03:57
nine or an even an eight hour eating window especially because you told me your goals and and your fitness goals I
02:04:03
would think for you an eight- hour eating window would be great so you have an option you can either not eat when
02:04:08
you get home from the gym and now we're at I'm just so hungry right or you could
02:04:13
push it back to three before or four you said sometimes where you don't where you don't eat what would be
02:04:20
ideal um well for you definitely just don't want to eat when it's dark out so
02:04:26
ideal would be an8 hour eating window finishing right now at summer so
02:04:32
finishing at 9: and then you would work back yeah so you would do like 1 to
02:04:39
9 or 12 to 8 or 12 to 8 yeah or 11 till 7: right it's not going to happen I'll
02:04:45
do I'll do the uh the one till 9 that you said yeah cuz I go to the gym often quite late in the UK so that means I can
02:04:51
after the gym and then here's here's a little hack is that and and I want to make sure that people don't lose sight
02:04:58
what I just did with you is customize it to your lifestyle and I think that's really important you just take that
02:05:03
eating window and you figure out what's the best where it fits for you um I I do
02:05:08
this with people who have families they want to sit down and eat dinner so don't skip dinner with your kids like sit and enjoy that you sound like that that from
02:05:16
a fitness and work level that's working for you so let's let's let's keep it like that let's not move that around too
02:05:24
much but for your fitness goals one day a week I'd like to see you elongate your fast push your fast like could you go 20
02:05:31
hours 24 hours of fasting where you're just having one meal a day because what you're going to do is you're going to
02:05:37
put your body into a little bit of a state of stress where it all the things we've talked about are going to start to
02:05:42
the healing is going to happen at a much quicker R you're saying once in a while yes I once a week for you once a week so
02:05:50
once a week go like 24 hours not eating that's right or what we call it one meal a day wow okay anything else I need to
02:05:58
know to get started um I mean coffee can be your friend um uh putting MCT oil in it can
02:06:06
help you get ketones a little bit quicker um so I don't know if you ever put oil in your coffee but I have MCT
02:06:12
oil on my counter at home because I did the keto diet yeah so just put it in your coffee it'll switch you over and
02:06:17
it'll get those ketones going a little quicker um there is something I wrote about in the book called a fasted snack
02:06:23
and the fasted snack is pure fat bomb um they're hard to find I'll it's a fat bomb so it's it has no carbs very little
02:06:31
protein it's all fat so an example of one might be an avocado is pretty fat
02:06:37
dense it has it does have some carbs uh but the one I love it's something called a keto cup and it's MCT oil with cacao
02:06:46
butter and some chocolate just pure chocolate around wrapped around it it looks like a little rees's peanut butter cups and I you can do those in your
02:06:53
fasting window and they'll keep they they won't switch you over because they're pure fat oh so fasted snacks can
02:07:00
be really helpful the research shows that you get all the benefits of fasting but you're popping these little keto
02:07:05
cups in your mouth all day long what is the most important thing we haven't talked about in your
02:07:11
[Music] view I you know I think the most important thing is for people to realize
02:07:19
that there's not the perfect path there's just your path so take all
02:07:26
everything we talked about and find the threads that resonate with you and put
02:07:32
those into action and then maybe you come back and listen to the podcast again and you take another thread but we
02:07:37
have to stop trying to do our diet like everybody else around us there's your diet and that's really what I'm trying
02:07:44
to get is that people build a lifestyle that's unique to them n of one be your own n of n of one if it's really the
02:07:52
most beautiful place to live n of one yeah you know they say in
02:07:57
a in a study they always say like the N is how many people were in the study and
02:08:02
so they'll say like n of a hundred n of a thousand so n of one is one person was in the study be your own study be your
02:08:09
own be your own study your own experiment yeah we have a closing tradition on this podcast where the last
02:08:15
guest asks a question for the next guest and the question that's been left in the Diary of a CEO for you is
02:08:25
interesting uh oh it's it's actually not that profound or interesting but but
02:08:31
it's I feel like you're the type of person that will interpret a deeper meaning than this
02:08:38
question maybe is alluding to but really think about this
02:08:43
okay how do you take care of
02:08:49
you that's actually that's a great question
02:08:55
um I could answer that question on a health level like I I have a really
02:09:01
strong Health routine um I get up in the morning I meditate I have a hyperbaric oxygen chamber at home I pop in my
02:09:07
chamber um I read like I the first two hours of my day are for me first before
02:09:13
anybody else so I have that part of me but I want to give a a a deeper answer
02:09:20
to that um I'm really getting to know myself and
02:09:26
what my needs are especially as a 53y old woman who's moving through menopause
02:09:31
and really honoring that how I care for myself is more
02:09:38
important than anything else and what I mean by that is when I say no to things
02:09:43
not overscheduling myself uh putting my needs before everybody else's these are
02:09:49
things I haven't done in my life and right now I'm really working on caring for myself first so that I can pour love
02:09:56
into the world after that love me first why is that
02:10:02
important I think for me I have been in the healing profession for so long I've
02:10:08
been a mother a wife and I've done everything for everybody else and I
02:10:14
stand here at 53 saying I'm going to start doing things for me now and that feels that feels like selflove and that
02:10:22
feels like where health is going to live for me and um I haven't I haven't spent
02:10:27
much time doing that in my life so I'm learning to do it for the first time
02:10:33
now Mindy Dr Mindy pels that is beautiful thank you so much thank you so
02:10:39
much for your wisdom um your remarkable engaging captivating Storyteller author
02:10:46
content creator and a wonderful practitioner everything you do you've helped so many people with your work work and I'm I was so excited when they
02:10:53
told me I'd be have the honor of having a conversation with you today this is one of those conversations that
02:10:58
genuinely will change people's lives and isn't that an amazing thing it's really cool yeah isn't that an amazing thing
02:11:04
that we can sit here and all the stuff you've shared will have a significant impact on one person's life millions of
02:11:11
people's lives hundreds of thousands of people's lives which will mean that they live a more fulfilled existence they can
02:11:16
kiss their and hug their kids for longer and that is because of the work you do so on behalf of all those people who may
02:11:22
never get to meet you in person and thank you themselves thank you oh thank you I I just really appreciate the
02:11:27
opportunity to be here for the thoughtful questions and really allowing me to express what I I hope hope does
02:11:34
exactly that and I think the purpose of of living a fulfilled life is touching humans you never actually
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