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well hello hello hello we are back for
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another episode Another Day Another ex
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homeschoolers club and uh today I'm
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joined by my friend Morgan uh I've known
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Morgan
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for it feels like a long time um but uh
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I don't know how long actually to be
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honest with you so thank you for for
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joining me it's funny because this show
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has definitely brought a lot of people
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out of the woodwork who I would have
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never I don't want to say I would have
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never reached out to them I always
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viewed you as too cool for school too
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cool for the homes School community and
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so there's a lot of people in my life
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who I'm just like I'm like they were too
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cool for The Homeschool Group they would
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never listen to this they would never
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you know whatever and uh anyway that fun
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but it has brought us back together um
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to some degree so thank once again for
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being here and thank you again for
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joining me yes I know I have really
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enjoyed watching all the videos I think
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because I've known so many people since
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we were so young um and so when I first
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saw the account pop up I was like no way
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click it's true you have got to be
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kidding me so I don't know if you
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remember but Hannah amiko she was my
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best friend in high school her and I are
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still really close she lives in
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Australia now her husband's from there
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and they have a bunch of kids um but I
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messaged her and was like look at this
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everyone's back on here and so she's
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been wa she watched it too and I don't
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know it was just funny it just brought
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brought back a bunch of memories
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from stuff that's awesome yeah I love
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the I love the amicos I knew them mostly
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because of church so and that's how I
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feel like I I mostly knew you I feel
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like because of church um but we also
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did go to group Solutions together y we
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did and I was a part of acheve for a
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little bit too I was just very my
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parents would have to like make me go
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and make me do the school work like I
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couldn't even tell you what class I took
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at a chief I have no idea what I took so
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give me a little rundown of like your
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homeschool experience like were you
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homeschooled all the way through you
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know college what what it look like from
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preschool to gosh okay do you remember
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the school vccs in Ventura Ventura
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County Christian a little private home
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or private school um it was really tiny
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like in my my class it was like we had
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grades that were together like second
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and third were always together fourth
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and fifth were always together um I went
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to that school from uh gosh maybe like
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first or second until till fifth grade I
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think um and then before that we had
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done like some home school some online
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like K12 type
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stuff um junior high or when my parents
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pulled me out of the the private school
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I went to public school in
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Oxnard that was very eye opening um my
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parents pulled me about halfway through
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the school year because it was just
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really really intense so I did public I
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did private school public school uh
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online school and then for junior high I
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was strictly at home um doing home
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school and so that's probably when you
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and I would have met was more during
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that time yeah um especially because we
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started doing group Solutions um I think
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I think when I was in junior
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high um so and I did seventh SE no I'm
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sorry I did Sixth and eighth grade I was
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only in junior high for two years
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because seventh grade was like that
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weird review year and my parents let me
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text out of it I was um a really big
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Troublemaker during my junior high and
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for most of my high school years so my
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parents really just did not want to put
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me in um school because I was just gonna
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make really worse
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decisions so um yeah worse than I would
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have even made as a homeschooler um so
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for junior high and high school I did
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home school but I did like co-ops and I
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would do online school um I did uh like
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a lot of block work I was always like at
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least a week ahead in school so if
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something cool came up I could leave and
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go do whatever yeah more than more than
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anything probably what you saw with my
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like too school for too cool for school
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whatever it was not that it was
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insecurity and it was me trying to
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figure out what the heck what the heck
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am I doing who am I I think that was
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kind of all of us though I mean you know
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the high school the teenage years in
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general Junior High High School are just
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like already just super awkward it
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doesn't matter home school public school
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whatever but yeah you're just like I
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don't know you're figuring yourself out
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and like I think there's a lot of false
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confidence sometimes like totally with
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with people and yeah I don't know it's
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it definitely I don't know there's just
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it there's a there's a weirdness to it
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and I think being a homeschool kid also
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like like you said you came from doing
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private school public school too so
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think that also when you come into it
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kind of at a later stage and there's so
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many people who already have known each
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other for forever it can sometimes be
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hard because you're to some degree
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you're like the odd man out well and my
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parents were were very different we they
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were I mean we grew up traditional in
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the sense that like I don't know my mom
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stayed home for the most part and like
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in those types of ways but like my mom
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and dad were um they were strict when
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they needed to be strict and weren't
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strict when they felt like they didn't
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need to be strict whereas my like
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perception of a lot of The Homeschool
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parents and I think this is why I would
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get in trouble a lot by like teachers at
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and teachers parents at group Solutions
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and other things was that I just wasn't
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used to having things be so strict and
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so on a leash like when my when I was 16
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I asked my parents if I could go to
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Uganda on a mission strip and they were
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like sure go ahead no big deal and then
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when I came home there was something
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that happened there that me meant a lot
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to me and I really wanted to get it
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tattooed so they took me when I was 16
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to get this tattoo in a garage in ohh
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high like there weren't there weren't a
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lot of like homeschool parents that were
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letting their kids at 16 get tattoos and
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I remember when that when I got it it
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caused like an uproar at group Solutions
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like it was a problem so I think there
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were I always felt kind of like judged
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but in my judgment from the
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homeschoolers like traditional
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homeschoolers it was like this Rebellion
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like like I don't know if I even like
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you guys anyway so it was like a weird
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mix for me of trying to figure out what
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my what I I just didn't know where I fit
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so yeah no I feel that because yeah I
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mean a lot of us were super rule
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follower like uh yeah my my parents the
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rule was no tattoos until like as soon
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as you get a tattoo it's your indication
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that you can afford life on your own so
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it was like which is so dumb um and uh I
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I mean I get like no tattoos in high
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school that makes sense to me but yeah I
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was like in college I don't know I I had
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friends who wanted to get me a tattoo
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for my birthday and I was like I was
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like guys we can't do this and they're
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like dude you just get it like on your
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butt or something it's like not a big
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deal and I'm so glad I didn't because uh
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I ended up having some health issues and
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like and my parents had to see my butt
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at some point after I was an adult and
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like that was yeah it would it just
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would have been a whole thing it
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wouldn't have HD itself as well as you
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would have hoped it would have so
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exactly that's that's they would picked
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you up the insurance immediately exactly
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exactly so um yeah so it was like
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definitely a sign of that but I think
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there was just so many homeschool kids
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where yeah there was just like these
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rules that were
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just I don't know and and sometimes they
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weren't even necessarily the parents
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inflicting the rules but it was just as
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a as a social group there was just so
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much expectation of like well this is
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how kids act and this is what we do and
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like all that kind of thing because I
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mean like to your point you got a tattoo
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and yeah it was like whoa she's really
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young to have a tattoo that's really
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surprising you know and kind of thing
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and it's like first time I smoked a
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cigar and like people found out about it
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it was like oh he's smoking now it's
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like that's I don't know 17 years old
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you know it's like I was
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oh it was not a big deal you know I
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didn't hear about it if I would have
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heard about it i' been like Jacob let's
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go so we all had our little rebellious
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things um totally but yeah well that's
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it's it's interesting to hear like you
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said that it's just like feeling kind of
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like that Outsider was interesting and I
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feel like the I I knew you more through
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church and youth group and that
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definitely felt like in comparison and
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I've been trying to think back of like
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you know interactions we've had and
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things like that and um and I'm like at
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group Solutions I feel like you were
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like a fish out of water and then you
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put us in like the youth group setting
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and you were much more like you had
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public school friends and you were like
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one of the cool kids and things like
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that where like I felt more out of my
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element in that place but it I don't
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know it was just more obvious that you
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were more comfortable in that situation
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does that seem relatively true yeah for
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sure especially because I'm a huge
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extrovert I needed to be around a ton of
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people and I think that was a lot of
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times what my um yeah because at group
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at group solution I really only had one
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friend Michael sandal was my my closest
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friend and he was really the only friend
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I had the whole time when I was there
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that's the only person I'd hang out with
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um because his parents were also just
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super chill and relaxed yep I could wear
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twopiece at their house it wasn't weird
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yeah um and and um yeah so at youth
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group it was a better mix of kids for me
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because it was just kind of like okay I
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I don't feel so like it's um so honed in
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on like what is
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your type of school that you do it's
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more about your relationship with L so
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right yeah I was definitely and Hannah
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and I we were the queens of all the
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pranks going on so that was another
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reason why I was very comfortable was
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because there was always a plan at hand
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that we were executing so it we had to
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be there so the plan would take form so
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okay give me give me an example of that
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because I'm trying to remember pranks
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now oh gosh
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um let's see okay do you remember Drake
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Drake the youth leader Drake big really
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tall super BFF guy yeah he was kind of
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behind the scenes like for somebody of
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that stature he was very behind the
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scenes scenes mhm uh and he drove this
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really tiny little white truck like I
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don't know how he fit inside of it uh
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like it's like okay you know on
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Despicable Me how Gru gets out of this
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tiny little car that's like what it
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always reminded us of well um he he had
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gotten a girlfriend or something and
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both Hannah and I thought that that was
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like the funniest thing ever I have no
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idea why we in high school like I have
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no clue so we decided uh we knew that he
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was going to be taking her like on a
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date or something like that after you
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group one night
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so during youth GP We snuck out to the
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parking lot got in his car and we had
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found like a big thing of powder and
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maybe like in the nursery or something
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and what we ended up doing was we put
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powder all under the hood of the truck
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and then all in the air conditioning
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vents in his car so that when they went
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to go on their date they just like
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became these ghosts right well when we
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had turned the the AC on to so that it
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was like inevitable they had to that was
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one another one was
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uh back in the day he was kind of like
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an OG uh youth leader from I think harp
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but do you remember Danny Jack yeah okay
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so Danny Jack was supposed to be taking
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a group of kids on I think they were
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going on a mission trip to like Mexico
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or something so Hannah and I we went
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fishing the night before and we got we
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caught a fish couple of fishes and we
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put it in the roof of the van so that
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the whole car I D they had to smell dead
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fish the whole time wow so that was
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another one we ended up Hannah and I
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went we we went a little too far with
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some of our pranks another one was a kid
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that we had met at youth grip I'm not
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going to give you his name because who
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knows if the cops are still looking for
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us we went and completely vandalized the
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front of their house one time with like
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oatmeal and like powder toilet paper
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anyways we didn't know that that day his
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mother had gone under surgery
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and was on really really heavy
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medication and she saw us through the
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window doing it well she came out butt
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naked and chase us around the
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neighborhood like I'm talking butt
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naked and uh so we got to watch her
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Chase's butt naked and the cops ended up
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like coming because the kid had called
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the cops on us I ended up falling while
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being chased by this naked woman and
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breaking my wrist so much so that the
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bone was like sticking out of my wrist
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and it was a disaster an absolute
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disaster so that was our final that was
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one of our final ones but yeah we were
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always we were always doing something oh
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my did I get a lot out of youth group
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spiritually maybe not but prank wise I
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got a lot of ideas so yeah no youth
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group wasn't great it was an incubator
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for friends which was to amazing and and
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the camps were like topnotch so fun yeah
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I always had so much fun I think we had
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one of the better youth group experience
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Es as just far as like I don't know the
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stuff that we were able to do was crazy
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we yeah um well like the guys we got in
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trouble because is this the oiled pigs
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yeah um I was just thinking about this
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because I just went to the fair and so
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we bought pigs and we yeah we we did
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like a pig wrestle thing and Peta please
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don't come for me like we loved those
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pigs we built a big mud pit in a
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backyard um we and we basically just
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played with them there was no tackling
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there was no no one killed any of them
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but didn't it end up in the news so yeah
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so you you say nobody killed them that's
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actually not true um but but basically
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the premise of the night was like we had
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these pigs we did a pig wrestle and then
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we had uh someone come in who was a
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trained kill Hunter and they taught us
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how to properly like how to properly gut
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a pig basically and then we roasted it
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and ate it for dinner so like there is a
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ending to it however it wasn't like we
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were out here torturing pigs like we we
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played with them we had fun with them
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people it was professionally done
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professional and yeah woke up the next
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day to like being on the front page of
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Santa Barbara times or something like
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that and then Peta was basically calling
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for all of us to be arrested and put in
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jail for torturing pigs and stuff and uh
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yeah it was not it was not a good time
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it was not fun um to
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I remember seeing it in the news and it
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was like Caleb Amo and and Kaden golden
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were on in the picture where you could
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like see them I didn't realize that you
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guys had actually like been killed the
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yeah yeah no and that
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was yeah and it was not meant to be a
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very like public event sound brutal yeah
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no I mean Mr Golden is the one who came
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in and taught us like here's how you do
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it here's the proper procedure and all
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that stuff it was really inter yeah and
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he's like a legit like he knows how to
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do all that stuff so he is a hunter yeah
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he he knows what he's doing and so yeah
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that was an interesting experience to
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say the least and so anytime anything
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happened with animals after that there
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was always the joke that Peta was going
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to come after us because um yeah like a
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bird would get trapped in a room and
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we'd have to get it out you know
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something like that it' just always be
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like peta's gonna come for us but if you
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did that here like somewhere out here in
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the South they'd be like no big deal
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absolutely yeah you and I now live you
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live in Kentucky I live in Tennessee and
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yeah it I just went to the fair and
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literally watched they had a pig wrestle
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and it was like kids and it was like how
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fast can you grab the pig and hold on to
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it and I'm like that was much
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more I don't want to say harmful but
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yeah it was much more harmful of those
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animals than like what we did and so
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it's just interesting and yeah we ended
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up making it on I want to say we made it
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on Fox News at one point and yeah the
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guy was like um yeah the guy was just
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like it's you know we did that as kids
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like it's not a big deal kind of a thing
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so yeah is so
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funny that is see those are some good
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times those are stories that you can't
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make up that yeah exactly it's yeah it's
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one of those stories that it's it's good
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to pull out at a party when you're
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meeting new people like oh yeah you want
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to hear about the one time Peta tried to
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put me in jail like you know who's got a
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story like that right you're like I may
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have been homeschooled but I lived a
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freaking good life exactly exactly and I
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ate good too um yeah
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toally but anyway bringing it back a
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little bit to The Homeschool world so
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yeah so after high school so you were
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homeschooled all the way through high
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school um I do have a high school
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diploma as well so just for everyone
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knows that's is something people ask me
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so do you actually have a diploma of
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course I do are you kidding me I do too
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I do too yeah it's an official piece of
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paper um but uh how was it like
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transitioning After High School like
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what did you did you go to college you
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did why wh at one point like what did
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what did the transition look like after
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high
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school um so okay so after high school
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so I graduated when I was 17 I graduated
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in
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200
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2014 um yeah
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2014 um K and I we always my husband and
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I always go back and forth because he
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graduated 2015 but he's technically he's
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older than me by three months and so I
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always tell him like nah you just
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weren't as smart as me um but yeah so
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2014 so and then I went to Y I graduate
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I went to Y 2015 September 2015 and then
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in that Gap I traveled I traveled to
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Europe by myself and met with a friend
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in um Austria we kind of backpacked
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around a couple of countries for I don't
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know gosh maybe like three or four
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weeks um that was a blast oh my
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gosh uh and then really the main thing I
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did was I worked I worked three jobs
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um I had worked at lure uh the
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restaurant in Ventura from the time I
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was 15 like once I could get a work
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permit I had friends that already worked
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there and pretty much had just a job
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instantly which was really cool um so I
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worked at lure from uh in in that period
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of time as well and then I was so I was
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working at Starbucks in the mornings I
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was opening at 3:30 I would get off at
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12 I would go pick up these girls that I
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was tutoring in the
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afternoons I'd tutor them for like two
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hours hour and then I'd go to work at
00:19:00
lure and I do the clothing shift at lure
00:19:02
wow um so I was working a ton honestly I
00:19:07
was just really bored um I had a
00:19:09
boyfriend at the time that broke up with
00:19:11
me that crushed my heart uh so you know
00:19:14
I just threw myself into work it's like
00:19:16
so stupid um but uh yeah so that was
00:19:21
kind of what I did and then crazy enough
00:19:23
I was working at Starbucks one day this
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group of guys came in and I was like who
00:19:28
are these people they are dirty and
00:19:30
gross looking totally judging them and
00:19:32
then turns out I had been kind of like
00:19:35
throwing around the idea of ywam but it
00:19:38
like wasn't totally sold yet and
00:19:39
whatever well it turns out these gross
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dirty dudes were W whammers from the Los
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Angeles base um and the biggest thing at
00:19:47
that base was it was a base for skaters
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basically I'm not a skater by any means
00:19:52
but that um group they just encouraged
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me like hey if you're interested in it
00:19:58
you might as well look into it like what
00:19:59
do you have to lose and it was kind of
00:20:00
like you know what you're right what do
00:20:02
I have to lose so that night I actually
00:20:04
invited all of them over without my
00:20:06
parents knowing to come over and I made
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everyone
00:20:09
tacos and we had a big old taco dinner
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right and um so it was just kind of like
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this like crazy God coincidence that
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happened um I still know all of them
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which is really
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cool um and ultimately when I went that
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was in the beginning of of the year in
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2015 my school started at ym in
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September of
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2015 and that's where I met my husband
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was in my DTS my first school for those
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people who are not super familiar with
00:20:38
ym right it's youth with a mission youth
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with a mission yep and it's basically
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okay so how the school's broken up is
00:20:46
you have um three months of a lecture
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phase so I lived three months um at the
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base uh at the Lo Los Angeles base on y
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base and um you just basically basally
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go through like intensive Bible classes
00:21:02
making sure that you
00:21:03
know what it is you're talking about a
00:21:06
lot of people come in with a lot of
00:21:07
trauma and things that they need to work
00:21:09
through um so they make sure that we
00:21:11
touch on those things and whatever no
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one's perfect we're all coming in with
00:21:14
crap let's be honest um and then after
00:21:18
that they pray about like a place for
00:21:20
everyone to go to sometimes schools will
00:21:22
split it up so like half of the school
00:21:24
will go somewhere another half of the
00:21:26
school will go somewhere else our entire
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school was a total of 16 of us and we
00:21:30
all ended up going to the same place so
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when I tell you this you're going to be
00:21:35
like wow that sounds luxurious it was
00:21:36
not luxurious it was horrible during
00:21:39
some parts um but we ended up going for
00:21:41
the three Monon Outreach to um St
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Vincent in the Grenadine Islands so it's
00:21:46
like you have Barbados up here and then
00:21:48
it's the archipelago of islands just
00:21:50
underneath Barbados so absolutely
00:21:53
gorgeous stunning I think I only got to
00:21:55
go to the water three times like I'm
00:21:58
still bitter about that it's the most
00:22:00
beautiful ocean in the whole world and I
00:22:01
touched it like three times um but yeah
00:22:05
so we just did we did our Outreach there
00:22:07
oh and but then sorry I forgot this it's
00:22:09
important the beginning of my Outreach
00:22:11
actually started in La we lived two
00:22:14
weeks in a tent on Skid Row that's
00:22:17
pretty crazy yeah yeah so that was
00:22:19
pretty gnarly um so yeah so my husband
00:22:23
was just another one of the students in
00:22:25
school you are not allowed to date you
00:22:27
are not allowed to like each other you
00:22:28
are not allowed to share intentions so
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um yeah obvious we waited until
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afterwards too yeah that was that's
00:22:37
something i' yeah I've really because
00:22:39
I've had a number of friends now do ywam
00:22:42
stuff and some of them come out in
00:22:44
relationships or really quickly after
00:22:47
come out in relationships a few of them
00:22:49
have resulted in some marriages um a lot
00:22:52
of them have resulted in div very bad
00:22:55
breakups um yeah uh and I I think it's
00:22:58
interesting because like to me it's like
00:23:02
very much
00:23:04
uh I don't want to say it obviously you
00:23:06
found your partner and that's like
00:23:08
you're G you're not gonna offend me go
00:23:09
ahead like I think I've seen it all
00:23:11
myself yeah you're putting kids you
00:23:14
putting young adults in a situation
00:23:16
where they are also kind of isolated in
00:23:19
a lot of ways where it's like they're
00:23:20
just with each other and you kind of get
00:23:22
that you get that like Cabin Fever kind
00:23:24
of a thing and so I'm never surprised
00:23:26
when people come out and they're like oh
00:23:27
I'm like so in love with this person and
00:23:29
then six months later they're like out
00:23:31
in the real world again and they're like
00:23:33
do I actually even like this person or
00:23:35
is this person even the person that I
00:23:36
think I know them as um and so that's I
00:23:39
don't know it's just always really
00:23:40
interesting because I've just seen
00:23:41
people go in come out and within months
00:23:43
they're like engaged married like doing
00:23:46
the thing totally um you guys dated for
00:23:48
quite a while I feel like after yam no
00:23:53
no nope we're I'm just gonna tell you
00:23:56
where everything you just said um no but
00:23:59
I have seen every single situation that
00:24:01
you have said I have seen every single
00:24:03
one and also 10 other variations we you
00:24:06
talk about off screen but
00:24:08
um we okay so we met met September 2015
00:24:12
our school
00:24:13
ended March 2016 we started dating and
00:24:18
we did a secondary school as well at y
00:24:20
la so we dated um in that second school
00:24:23
and the uh second school was all
00:24:26
on um Ministry uh it's called somd
00:24:31
Ministry School of leadership and
00:24:33
Ministry development um because we knew
00:24:37
we always knew we wanted to be business
00:24:38
owners of some kind so it was really
00:24:41
cool to be able to like incorporate both
00:24:42
of those things anyways long story but
00:24:45
um we dated through that school that
00:24:47
school
00:24:49
ended March April May June end of
00:24:53
June and then I moved here to Kentucky
00:24:57
so I was like you are not getting away
00:24:58
from me um and we dated in Kentucky uh
00:25:03
got
00:25:05
engaged January 2017 married June 2017
00:25:10
and we moved back to California um a
00:25:13
week before our wedding so it was it was
00:25:16
quick yeah yeah so a year and a half
00:25:18
from the time that we met till we were
00:25:20
married okay so I take it all
00:25:24
back back all of it and then but we
00:25:26
waited a while before we had well yeah a
00:25:29
while for we waited like almost four
00:25:31
years before we had our first baby so
00:25:34
well and I think it comes down to also
00:25:38
like your intentions of like continuing
00:25:40
to get to know somebody and you know I'm
00:25:43
I'm married as well like you guys got
00:25:45
married about a year before me uh it
00:25:48
sounds like and yeah it's like but you
00:25:50
continue to grow you evolve as people
00:25:52
right and so it's it's all about the
00:25:54
intention of like you know is this my
00:25:56
person am I going to you know
00:25:58
just walk with them through some of this
00:26:00
stuff you know it's like people go
00:26:02
through changes and that's okay totally
00:26:04
you know I wake up next to a person that
00:26:06
I'm I'm not the same person I was five
00:26:08
years ago or almost six years ago at
00:26:10
this point that you know got married so
00:26:13
it you know it's yep I get it and I got
00:26:15
married at 22 you know we got married
00:26:17
super young uh relative to a lot of
00:26:21
people and you know and I think that's
00:26:23
also a big thing that sometimes people
00:26:24
push back on to is just like oh how do
00:26:27
you know and it's like how do you know
00:26:29
yeah how do you know how do you not know
00:26:32
yeah I mean sometimes really that is it
00:26:33
it's like how do you not know yeah for
00:26:35
him and I we are because our Outreach
00:26:37
was pretty like um I don't know there
00:26:41
was some really we experienced some
00:26:42
really weird stuff on our
00:26:43
Outreach um both him and I were the two
00:26:46
extroverted so we were paired to do most
00:26:49
things together because we were like the
00:26:51
ones that are constantly being
00:26:53
volunteered to go preach at this church
00:26:54
or to go sing here I I don't sing or to
00:26:58
do do this or to lead this or to stand
00:27:00
on a truck with a microphone and go
00:27:02
yelling down the island so it it's like
00:27:05
we we're kind of like destined to be
00:27:07
best friends because we just kind of had
00:27:09
to be but then within that because we
00:27:11
had to do so many hard things it was
00:27:13
like oh we like we're got a really good
00:27:15
team okay okay so and Ken had a
00:27:18
girlfriend at the time so that also kind
00:27:20
of held me off quite a bit because I
00:27:22
didn't want to ever like do anything to
00:27:24
disrespect her right yeah um but uh then
00:27:28
when he went home after the DTs was done
00:27:30
the first school was done he broke up
00:27:32
with her and then called me like a week
00:27:33
later was like I can't do this without
00:27:35
you and I was like oh thank God because
00:27:37
I can't do this without you so so and
00:27:41
that's kind of how we operate in our
00:27:42
marriage too we are best friends first
00:27:46
always I mean we even parent like best
00:27:49
friends that are parenting their
00:27:51
children I don't know that might on
00:27:52
weird um but at the end of the day it's
00:27:54
like yeah I'm married to Ken but Callen
00:27:56
is my best friend like he's who I want
00:27:59
to tell everything too so yeah um so one
00:28:03
of the things too that you and I had
00:28:04
kind of we chattered a little bit about
00:28:06
this previous to recording was like you
00:28:10
had this idea of like I'm never going to
00:28:12
get married I'm never going to have kids
00:28:13
and lo behold that is uh not your
00:28:15
reality um not the case at all so like
00:28:19
what was that kind of shift for you I I
00:28:22
understand the the getting married one a
00:28:24
little bit easier because sometimes it
00:28:25
just takes that right person to click in
00:28:26
you but the kids I think is a is a a
00:28:29
whole another layer to that so yeah
00:28:32
share a little bit about that and like
00:28:33
what did that look like and how did that
00:28:35
change kind of come to be and um I think
00:28:37
because I have such a large personality
00:28:39
I'm very vocal about everything I I
00:28:42
don't keep secrets about myself I think
00:28:44
I always felt like with especially the
00:28:46
getting married part that it would just
00:28:47
be really hard to find someone who could
00:28:50
put up with that um and Ken's really
00:28:52
good at it because he's super patient
00:28:55
and he not only puts up with it but he
00:28:56
puts me in my place very
00:28:58
graciously so for him it was literally
00:29:02
the night before I met him I prayed to
00:29:04
the Lord before I went to please do not
00:29:05
bring me anyone because I don't want
00:29:08
this to be the case like I don't want to
00:29:09
look like the ym couple well well just
00:29:12
kidding it's exactly what happened so um
00:29:15
I had always told my parents like I am
00:29:17
not getting married I am not going to
00:29:19
college and I'm G to be covered in
00:29:20
tattoos and the only thing I stuck to
00:29:23
with that was being covered in tattoos
00:29:25
so um yeah the kids the kids thing
00:29:30
really I don't know I think I'm sure you
00:29:33
experienced this too it's like
00:29:34
especially with marriage I think you
00:29:36
just start to soften
00:29:38
towards people when you've been married
00:29:41
to someone you say like okay like
00:29:44
I I am called to love you and I'm called
00:29:47
to wake up each day and to choose you
00:29:50
and it's I mean your spouse is so cute
00:29:52
that you're like God I wonder what we
00:29:53
look like mixed together and like as a
00:29:55
woman I like started having those
00:29:57
thoughts to or was like like hm I wonder
00:29:59
like what this would look like so it's
00:30:01
not that it was just like some spiritual
00:30:03
thing that happened that's not really
00:30:05
what it was honestly was more like uh
00:30:08
curiosity at first and then when we
00:30:10
really started talking about it then I
00:30:13
was scared I was terrified it's like
00:30:15
okay maybe we could have like one maybe
00:30:19
maybe we could have one um and yeah I
00:30:23
don't know over time I think the Lord
00:30:24
just really started working on my heart
00:30:26
of like okay so am I scared and really
00:30:29
the the matter behind it was that I was
00:30:32
just terrified I didn't want to have to
00:30:33
raise someone I didn't want to have that
00:30:36
responsibility of making choices for
00:30:38
them before and after they were born
00:30:40
like that's a lot to think about it's a
00:30:42
lot of things to have to do so um and I
00:30:46
also think there's this stigma that like
00:30:48
when you start trying to have a baby
00:30:51
that for everyone it's going to take a
00:30:53
long time to get
00:30:55
pregnant and that was not my that has
00:30:58
not been my experience like mine's
00:31:00
almost the opposite where it's like it's
00:31:01
a blessing but it almost feels like uh
00:31:04
I'm probably going to get a lot of hate
00:31:05
for this but it also feels kind of like
00:31:06
a curse sometimes because it happens too
00:31:09
quick and too easy that it's like okay
00:31:11
we're uh we have a three- yearold that's
00:31:14
our oldest and we're on our fourth kid
00:31:16
like that's a little ridiculous um so I
00:31:19
was just thinking like when we started
00:31:20
at first talking about and thinking
00:31:22
about having kids it was going to take
00:31:23
like two years no I was pregnant in
00:31:25
three weeks like it was shocking and my
00:31:28
first pregnancy was identical twins so
00:31:31
add that on to that so it was just it
00:31:34
was just yeah shocking and it every
00:31:37
single pregnancy that I find out I'm
00:31:39
pregnant I'm like my gosh how did this
00:31:42
happen well we know how it happens but
00:31:44
yeah um but yeah so it's just I don't
00:31:47
think the shock Factor goes away but um
00:31:51
yeah and you're I think especially with
00:31:53
the kids my heart has just changed so
00:31:56
much um just in being a parent and now
00:32:00
realizing that like even how I view God
00:32:02
is different based on being a parent
00:32:04
like I understand so many things now
00:32:07
that were talked about in the Bible
00:32:08
because it's like oh okay I get this
00:32:10
from like a parent perspective now of
00:32:12
like why X YZ or why someone would have
00:32:15
Grace on this or blah blah blah it's
00:32:17
just I don't know it's just a
00:32:19
weird transition that happens so yeah
00:32:23
that's interesting because I I think
00:32:25
that like man and I don't want to have
00:32:26
kids and we never say never however yeah
00:32:30
it's pretty positive yeah we don't want
00:32:32
to and and that's okay too yeah and
00:32:34
that's fine and um but yeah I think it's
00:32:39
I I just I always tell myself I'm a
00:32:40
little bit more I feel just more like
00:32:42
the cool Uncle person that I'm gonna
00:32:44
have those people in my life um instead
00:32:47
you'll be a cool uncle and uh yeah
00:32:50
exactly and so but yeah I think it's
00:32:54
that is an
00:32:56
interesting thing to think think about
00:32:58
of just
00:32:59
like how it changes when you have a kid
00:33:03
um you know and just the way yeah
00:33:06
exactly I mean that's what you hear
00:33:07
right is everything changes and it's
00:33:09
like it's a very um and you won't
00:33:12
understand it until you do it right um
00:33:15
true because there's nothing to compare
00:33:17
it to like right literally nothing to I
00:33:20
I couldn't prep you enough if you guys
00:33:22
decided if you come to me I'm G to be
00:33:24
like okay well I can give you some Spark
00:33:26
Notes but it's still not going to be
00:33:29
it's different for everybody and um
00:33:32
what's interesting too is you have also
00:33:35
yeah you baby number four is on the way
00:33:37
and you have decided to homeschool at
00:33:40
least one of your kids right if not all
00:33:42
of them uh probably probably all of them
00:33:45
probably all of them okay yeah and so so
00:33:48
that has just started um because we're
00:33:50
recording this we were supposed to
00:33:51
record a week ago and uh life just kind
00:33:55
of kicked you in the butt um so you are
00:33:58
what a week into homeschooling your kid
00:34:00
now I am a week into
00:34:03
homeschooling um okay so my oldest okay
00:34:06
so so everybody knows I have a
00:34:08
three-year-old she's gonna be four in
00:34:09
December I also have a 2-year-old she's
00:34:12
gonna be three in March and I have a
00:34:14
10-month-old he's going to be one in
00:34:16
October and then I'm due with the fourth
00:34:18
and it's a boy we haven't announced it
00:34:20
but I'll tell you guys it's a boy which
00:34:23
is awesome so it's like two and two how
00:34:25
could we like so perfect um he is due in
00:34:30
I think like March end of March sometime
00:34:34
so that's a lot of I mean that's a lot
00:34:35
of kids back toback it's like if we were
00:34:37
going to put them in private school or
00:34:39
something like that that's so much money
00:34:41
like affording private school these days
00:34:42
is like affording college and I don't
00:34:44
want to pay for their college yeah it's
00:34:46
ridiculous so um okay so Haven is going
00:34:49
to something kind of similar
00:34:52
to I don't know it might be the same
00:34:54
idea as like um El Camino do you
00:34:58
remember El Camino I do remember El
00:34:59
Camino so it's a little bit of a mix of
00:35:01
both right at home in school at home in
00:35:04
school um so she has a teacher that she
00:35:07
reports
00:35:08
to uh to like turn in all of her stuff
00:35:11
she goes there for Chapel for History
00:35:14
Science art
00:35:17
um some like life skills stuff um so
00:35:21
that's what her preschool so she's there
00:35:22
from two days a week Tuesday and
00:35:24
Thursday and then I'm then the one
00:35:26
teaching her at home Monday Wednesday
00:35:30
Friday um and that's so that's really
00:35:32
cool uh and the place she goes to is
00:35:34
like a little Christian Academy it's
00:35:35
through the church that my husband and
00:35:37
uh his family used to go to when they
00:35:38
were little um so that's helpful it's
00:35:41
not it's not as overwhelming for my
00:35:43
brain I'm very disorganized I do not do
00:35:46
great with like a plan or a schedule
00:35:48
most of the time so I think having
00:35:50
someone for her because she is just very
00:35:52
TI Bay um to kind of give her the
00:35:57
overvie
00:35:58
and to have her come home and give me
00:36:00
the like okay this is what we're doing
00:36:02
is a better fit for especially my
00:36:05
personality in the season of life where
00:36:07
we still have a bunch of little kids at
00:36:10
home and more just coming along so yeah
00:36:13
um and she's very social as well so it's
00:36:16
good it gives her the ability to go take
00:36:18
orders from somebody else for a little
00:36:20
bit make a bunch of friends and then
00:36:22
come home and then we can do the harder
00:36:24
stuff at home so yeah so what is
00:36:27
teaching at home then look like right so
00:36:30
obviously you've kind of agreed to this
00:36:32
is the curriculum that they're using and
00:36:35
so like yeah what is what does it look
00:36:37
like how does it differ from like I mean
00:36:40
I only I only ask that because like my
00:36:42
mom we would buy curriculum but it was
00:36:45
she kind of put together like okay we're
00:36:46
going to do this math and we're going to
00:36:47
do this science we're going to do that
00:36:49
which is very it's a little bit
00:36:50
different than having someone kind of
00:36:52
set out this like here's here's what
00:36:55
we're doing and you're going to help us
00:36:57
on Monday Wednesday Fridays so at home
00:37:00
um we're doing math stuff uh math think
00:37:04
it what was the other thing
00:37:06
literature and I mean with a preschooler
00:37:09
um she's she's very very smart she
00:37:11
really is she'll be smarter than me by
00:37:13
like second grade probably
00:37:15
um we we're just doing small things
00:37:18
right so I think with preschool we'll be
00:37:19
learning uh obviously how to count to
00:37:22
higher than I think maybe 50 or
00:37:24
something she's really interested in
00:37:26
learning about money she really wants be
00:37:27
able to go and she's trying to figure
00:37:30
out what coin coins to use she wants to
00:37:32
learn how to tell time um so I think
00:37:35
it's just like normal kid things that
00:37:36
they're catching on to like oh Mom and
00:37:38
Dad do this this is like a good life
00:37:40
skill on top of us also being able to
00:37:43
apply it to um like uh subjects my goal
00:37:47
with school this was something about
00:37:49
this is something about school that I
00:37:51
very strongly dislike I really think a
00:37:53
lot of school is a waste of time I think
00:37:55
having to learn algebra I think having
00:37:57
to learn trigonometry these are all
00:37:58
things that I had to do um I've never
00:38:01
used any of that in my everyday life
00:38:04
some people might I'm not saying that
00:38:06
we're not not going to teach those
00:38:07
things to our kids to an extent but I
00:38:10
did um consumer consumer math whenever I
00:38:13
was a senior in high school and I
00:38:14
honestly wish I would have done it all
00:38:16
my years because it has served me so
00:38:18
well to be able to know how to do my
00:38:20
taxes to write a check to pay bills to
00:38:23
um do bookkeeping my husband's also in
00:38:25
finance too so for him those things that
00:38:28
he did because he was also homeschooled
00:38:29
they have served him greatly and he
00:38:31
doesn't even have a degree in finance
00:38:33
and he's like doing incredible at the
00:38:35
bank so it's just things that like I
00:38:38
really want to hone in on focusing on
00:38:42
skills and things that can apply to
00:38:45
everything rather than just like one
00:38:48
specific thing like oh you may become an
00:38:50
engineer but probably not like unless
00:38:54
that she just like shows interest in it
00:38:56
I wish somebody would have been like
00:38:58
okay these are um certain things that
00:39:01
you could use in photography because now
00:39:02
being a wedding photographer there are
00:39:04
things that like I wish I knew how to do
00:39:06
better and uh how to keep clients and
00:39:09
how to stuff like that but obviously
00:39:10
we're not going to know what we're going
00:39:12
to do when we're older but still it's
00:39:14
it's um things that I
00:39:17
used um and a lot of un a lot of used
00:39:22
space that was wasted on other things
00:39:23
hopefully that makes sense no that no
00:39:25
that does because I mean you're
00:39:26
basically saying like
00:39:28
you you want to play into your kid's
00:39:30
passion there's obviously things that
00:39:32
any kid needs to know how to do right
00:39:33
every kid needs to know how to read and
00:39:35
write and they need to know how to do
00:39:36
two plus two equals four you know um and
00:39:39
I yeah I trust me I get it um because
00:39:42
yeah there's plenty of stuff that I'm
00:39:43
like h i bothered to learn this and I'm
00:39:45
never going to use it um totally but you
00:39:47
sometimes you never know sometimes
00:39:48
things do pop out but it's like whoa um
00:39:51
but I did I also had parents who they
00:39:53
encouraged me to to you know hone in on
00:39:56
the things that I like I liked music you
00:39:58
know I served on the worship team I I
00:40:01
worked in a music studio I had like a
00:40:04
billion in one guitars like I just like
00:40:07
that kind of stuff they really were like
00:40:09
yeah encouraging me to to pursue those
00:40:11
things because I was very passionate
00:40:13
about it right and same with like
00:40:14
different histories and I've talked
00:40:15
about this on previous episodes of like
00:40:17
being really into Pirates and studying
00:40:19
Pirates and things like that it's like
00:40:21
that is where I think traditional
00:40:24
education sometimes gets it wrong but
00:40:26
it's I I think get wrong in the sense
00:40:28
that you're talking to a classroom of
00:40:30
kids that are all very different and
00:40:32
they have to create something that works
00:40:33
somewhat for everybody and that's just
00:40:35
really hard you know and so regardless
00:40:38
of a kid that's in public school private
00:40:40
school whatever it's like having mom and
00:40:42
dad who are just there to be like you're
00:40:43
really into this let's just go all in on
00:40:46
it and be let's incorporate this yeah
00:40:49
exactly like like you said your daughter
00:40:50
is really into like coins right now and
00:40:53
like understanding how money works it's
00:40:54
like okay well that's interesting you
00:40:58
know like let's just do that how when we
00:41:00
play cashier at home you know like let's
00:41:02
do with real money she doesn't realize
00:41:04
it but it's math yeah exactly exactly
00:41:07
and it's somewhat complicated math too
00:41:09
because it mean you're talking about
00:41:12
things that just kind of have arbitrary
00:41:15
value to them um in a lot of sense like
00:41:17
it doesn't I don't know money still
00:41:18
doesn't make a lot of sense to me can
00:41:20
you tell um but well money is confusing
00:41:23
especially these days it's yeah yeah
00:41:26
well and like you said like there are
00:41:28
things that you now own your own your
00:41:30
own business and like there are plenty
00:41:32
of things that you're like I wish I
00:41:34
would have had some learning and some
00:41:37
education around these things that it
00:41:38
would just put you in maybe that next
00:41:42
level of whatever it is it would just
00:41:43
have set you ahead uh instead of having
00:41:46
to basically play catchup now right yeah
00:41:49
yeah well and the funny thing is is that
00:41:51
so I ended up going to like college for
00:41:53
a while I not not like what most people
00:41:56
did but um when I was trying to figure
00:41:58
out because I always um did some sort of
00:42:02
like Photo work even at group Solutions
00:42:04
I actually took a um a photography class
00:42:07
and a Photoshop class at group Solutions
00:42:09
it was always something I was super
00:42:10
passionate about um but in when I got
00:42:14
home from Y and we were married and I
00:42:15
was honestly just like in aoras and I
00:42:17
just decided I was like you know I've
00:42:18
always loved makeup um I used to work
00:42:21
backstage Fashion Week in La every now
00:42:23
and then um because we had a bunch of
00:42:24
connections through um through y working
00:42:28
with different models and stuff like
00:42:29
that and that was something I thought
00:42:31
was really fun really cool it like
00:42:33
provided a really unique perspective on
00:42:35
like the beauty industry um so I ended
00:42:37
up actually going to sbcc and I got my
00:42:39
license uh in to be an aesthetician so a
00:42:43
lot of my learning in how to build a
00:42:47
clientele and how to deal with people on
00:42:50
a client level actually came from um
00:42:53
learning how to be an aesthetician which
00:42:55
is so funny because I hate being an
00:42:58
aesthetician it was not what was meant
00:43:00
for me I do not want to touch people's
00:43:02
gross faces like it it's just it was not
00:43:05
it did not end up being what I desired
00:43:07
ultimately I desired to be a
00:43:08
photographer still I should have just
00:43:10
stuck with what I knew I loved but it g
00:43:12
that gave me um I I was able to transfer
00:43:16
all of that over really well um so that
00:43:19
was cool I I like almost got a crash
00:43:21
course in it just then used it for a
00:43:25
different skill so yeah um
00:43:27
yeah so it it ended up working itself
00:43:29
out but yeah I don't know just funny I
00:43:31
like had to try something that I was
00:43:33
like I think I like this but just
00:43:34
kidding I actually still want to do this
00:43:36
no I think that's and we're allowed to
00:43:38
Pivot and change I mean I would to
00:43:40
originally be recording I wanted to do
00:43:43
recording engineering or audio
00:43:44
engineering excuse me which is like kind
00:43:46
of ultimately what I do now I'm podcast
00:43:48
editor but like I wanted to work with
00:43:50
bands that was the thing and then I got
00:43:52
there and I hated classes and I was like
00:43:53
okay I'm going to go to music business
00:43:55
entertainment industry I want to manage
00:43:56
B
00:43:57
that was the thing and then I got out
00:43:59
and I was like it's really hard to break
00:44:00
into the music industry and then kind of
00:44:03
fell into podcasting and all of the
00:44:05
skills that I learn doing those things
00:44:07
all come into play with what I do
00:44:09
currently and it's you're in the perfect
00:44:11
spot for it too that is true too but
00:44:15
it's been interesting that that like
00:44:18
because there were times where working a
00:44:21
dead end job and just like feeling like
00:44:24
I wasted all this time and energy
00:44:25
learning this stuff that I'm never never
00:44:27
going to use because I'm just stuck in
00:44:28
the rabbit hole of serving people food
00:44:31
or working at a coffee shop or whatever
00:44:34
been there ultimately it came out and
00:44:36
now it's like okay now I get to use all
00:44:37
of these skills for what I want to do my
00:44:41
passions now totally um and that's super
00:44:43
cool so and those are just extra skills
00:44:45
that you have in your back pocket that
00:44:47
every now and then if you need to whip
00:44:48
them out voila you've got it so exactly
00:44:51
exactly and um so yeah I wanted to
00:44:56
there's two places I want want to go I'm
00:44:57
I'm trying to figure out which place I
00:44:58
want to go first let me go here first so
00:45:01
you you and your husband own a wedding
00:45:03
photography company and um so shout that
00:45:06
out really quick how can people find you
00:45:08
if they're looking um is it specifically
00:45:10
in Kentucky do you guys travel I mean
00:45:12
for the right price most people do
00:45:13
anything but we have traveled a lot yes
00:45:17
this coming year I'm not traveling at
00:45:18
all because traveling after having a
00:45:20
newborn I've done it this is
00:45:23
my fifth this is my fifth wedding season
00:45:26
pregnant
00:45:27
um I've been pregnant every year since
00:45:29
2020 so um yeah it's been a lot so this
00:45:33
coming year I have decided I'm I'm we're
00:45:35
not traveling at all this coming year
00:45:36
but um so yeah Kentucky Tennessee
00:45:38
Indiana Ohio really are like the
00:45:41
best um places for us because we can
00:45:44
drive we're at like the most perfect
00:45:47
spot in Kentucky to be able to reach all
00:45:49
the states around us within like an hour
00:45:52
and a half two hours so um so that's
00:45:55
really nice but um yeah our page is
00:45:57
called um you and me so it's like word
00:45:59
you and then just the letter N me
00:46:02
photographs um and yeah we just built it
00:46:07
off of um the fact that we we had an
00:46:10
incredible experience with our wedding
00:46:11
photographer he was actually not a
00:46:13
wedding photographer we fired our first
00:46:15
wedding photographer because she was
00:46:17
just distracted all the time and um
00:46:20
honestly really annoying to work with
00:46:23
and um we uh ended up contacting a while
00:46:27
he was kind of like a an adventure
00:46:28
wildlife photographer but I loved how he
00:46:31
um edited and his perspective on life
00:46:33
was really cool and so he shot our
00:46:35
wedding kind of from like
00:46:38
a I don't know not from a wedding
00:46:41
perspective a normal one yeah so just
00:46:43
gave us really interesting photos so um
00:46:46
I love kind of like our inspiration I
00:46:48
remember when you guys got married and
00:46:49
and the photos came out and I was like
00:46:52
these are super cool shots I mean you
00:46:53
guys got married in a beautiful place
00:46:55
you got married in Santa Barbara outside
00:46:57
the the most beautiful location
00:46:59
absolutely gorgeous the cheapest
00:47:01
location and it's that pretty it's so
00:47:03
crazy how cheap it is I mean I got
00:47:05
married right outside of Ventura Hall uh
00:47:07
City Hall and that's beautiful too
00:47:10
exactly um and I'm amazed and people to
00:47:13
this day are like well how'd you do that
00:47:15
I'm like well we literally I mean also I
00:47:17
didn't have people at my wedding it was
00:47:18
just immediate family but literally we
00:47:21
called it the uh the uh Flash Dance uh
00:47:24
wedding because like literally we just
00:47:26
walked up did the thing took photos left
00:47:29
um didn't have to pay scent just was it
00:47:32
just was and honestly that's the way to
00:47:34
do it and that's the thing that I
00:47:36
actually love shooting the most is
00:47:37
because there's no show there's no uh
00:47:41
there's nothing staged it's just two
00:47:43
people who really love each other who
00:47:45
got married and they they just went did
00:47:47
the thing so that's awesome well I'll
00:47:50
definitely I'm gonna link all of it in
00:47:51
the show notes and stuff because oh
00:47:53
thank yeah if you guys are looking for
00:47:55
wedding do you guys do anything beside
00:47:56
wedding for photography or is it just
00:47:57
primarily wedding photography I do
00:47:59
weddings um we do obviously couples and
00:48:02
families I started really I love doing
00:48:05
families especially now that I have kids
00:48:07
um I just have a um a different eye for
00:48:10
shooting families now that I have my own
00:48:12
my own kids so um I don't know I like
00:48:15
very wild natural Family Photos where
00:48:18
kids are rolling in mud and having fun
00:48:21
so um yeah so we do mainly mainly
00:48:24
families couples what okay so very cool
00:48:28
yeah I I've only ever done three we call
00:48:31
them professional photo shoots with an
00:48:33
actual like hired photographer that and
00:48:35
the first one was with Becky Schwarz who
00:48:37
you know yeah oh yeah and she gave like
00:48:41
I just did not know what I was doing and
00:48:43
she gave me the best piece of advice was
00:48:45
just she was just like she we just were
00:48:48
we started laughing and she started
00:48:49
telling jokes and all the stuff we were
00:48:50
just hanging out and just very and those
00:48:52
are the photos that turned out the
00:48:53
absolute best were just yeah it was
00:48:55
there was no like okay you're going to
00:48:57
smile say cheesee like it was nothing
00:48:59
like that it was just very like natural
00:49:01
walking posing just like very spur of
00:49:04
the moment she snapped the photo kind of
00:49:06
a thing and those just their authentic
00:49:08
feeling um they give the best photos yes
00:49:11
absolutely so okay so the second place I
00:49:14
wanted to go and this is kind of jumping
00:49:16
back into now that you have
00:49:17
kids was is there a specific memory or
00:49:23
event from your childhood whether it's
00:49:25
homeschooling days or not not that you
00:49:27
are like wanting to maybe try to like
00:49:30
replicate a little bit with your kids
00:49:32
some of the magic that uh your family
00:49:34
had or things that you're just like I
00:49:36
don't want to do that my parents did
00:49:38
that that was big no
00:49:40
no those are good questions
00:49:44
um you know we did a lot of really fun
00:49:49
um okay so we had a cabin in
00:49:51
E my family did and we did that was
00:49:55
mostly where like majority of our family
00:49:58
vacations happen we didn't ever go on
00:50:00
like big crazy trips I think we did one
00:50:02
time um when I was 15 we we went to
00:50:05
Hawaii as a family and that was super
00:50:08
fun um but my best memories I think are
00:50:11
just from like simple family car rides
00:50:15
and um honestly we would go on a bike
00:50:18
ride most nights after dinner and just
00:50:22
my my parents never we never had to look
00:50:25
perfect we were never expected to like
00:50:27
be prim and proper at church like I I
00:50:30
think they just uh there was just a
00:50:33
uh there was never too much pressure
00:50:36
added onto anything and I think that's
00:50:38
what I appreciate the most looking back
00:50:39
in my childhood is that nothing was ever
00:50:41
taken too
00:50:43
serious and um I was only really
00:50:46
expected to be a kid
00:50:48
um and yeah they they helped us have we
00:50:52
had a great childhood honestly um we did
00:50:55
all kinds of fun stuff we
00:50:57
we my dad we have this running joke in
00:51:00
our family my dad is not super handy
00:51:03
like really at all I'm being kind on
00:51:05
here because just in case he watches
00:51:07
this but um we asked for a tree house we
00:51:11
had a tree okay so keep that in mind we
00:51:13
had a tree uh in our backyard was huge
00:51:17
and um we kept asking him like Dad we
00:51:20
wouldd love to have a treehouse be so
00:51:21
fun so one day we come home we come home
00:51:24
from doing something and he's like girls
00:51:26
guess what because we're all girls in
00:51:28
our family I made you guys a treehouse
00:51:30
and we were like okay so we go in the
00:51:32
backyard and it is this stupid corner of
00:51:35
the house that has a tent or not a tent
00:51:37
a tarp that is hung like across this
00:51:41
corner of the house and he's like this
00:51:43
is your tree house and it was just like
00:51:46
I still just remember the um he was so
00:51:49
proud of himself and we were so like you
00:51:52
are so dumb why would you do this for us
00:51:55
but it just like the sil
00:51:57
of like seeing your parents just like
00:52:00
still enjoy being uh a kid and I really
00:52:05
think Ken was just saying this the other
00:52:06
night with becoming a parent having your
00:52:08
own kids I think replicating their
00:52:11
childhood you're also just kind of a
00:52:12
whole time trying to replicate your
00:52:14
childhood because it's the best
00:52:16
especially if you had a good childhood
00:52:17
you just want to live through them
00:52:19
through everything yeah um and like even
00:52:23
dropping Haven off at school for the
00:52:24
first time last week I thought it was
00:52:25
going to be a mess and St and cry the
00:52:27
whole time and honestly I was just so
00:52:29
excited for her because I remember that
00:52:30
feeling of getting new shoes and getting
00:52:32
to go make friends and I mean it's just
00:52:35
really exciting so more than anything I
00:52:38
think we just don't want to put too much
00:52:40
pressure on them to do certain things
00:52:44
they don't ever have to look perfect
00:52:45
going to church the I mean we just they
00:52:49
have uh we have a property that has
00:52:52
about three acres on it and we just set
00:52:54
them free and let them go be fun and
00:52:56
wild and um I don't know I just want
00:53:00
them to
00:53:01
enjoy their childhood and look back and
00:53:04
be like Mom and Dad were fun like they
00:53:05
got in the pool and like in the tiny
00:53:08
little plastic pool that had a bunch of
00:53:09
grass and bird poop in it and still like
00:53:12
had fun with us so yeah um in negative
00:53:16
honestly
00:53:17
I I don't actually have a ton of
00:53:21
negatives
00:53:22
um obviously my parents wen't perfect
00:53:26
but they they really championed Us in
00:53:29
and were um I mean there's not really
00:53:31
much in my head at least that I remember
00:53:34
maybe if you would have asked me as a
00:53:35
teenager probably G to come up with like
00:53:36
a trillion things but um it's always
00:53:39
easier when you're in the middle of it
00:53:41
to to be like oh Mom and Dad suck but
00:53:43
gosh they were I mean I remember even as
00:53:45
a high school kid being like man
00:53:46
Morgan's parents are cool they were cool
00:53:49
honestly and they my parents were always
00:53:52
the the um they were always the house
00:53:54
that wanted to host everything like they
00:53:57
loved having high schoolers over the
00:53:59
junior highs over like it was just the
00:54:01
Delight of their heart to host everyone
00:54:03
and to always have food for everyone and
00:54:06
um our house also looked like um if this
00:54:09
is our house right across diagonally
00:54:12
across the street was Ventura High so
00:54:14
like my friends would get off of school
00:54:16
and come to our house to eat so like or
00:54:19
like come on their lunch break to come
00:54:21
over and hang out so it was fun like our
00:54:23
my mom and dad were always very just
00:54:25
like yeah invite everyone over or like
00:54:28
one of our family vacations we went to
00:54:31
um youbody and we went back country
00:54:33
camping and I think I brought I brought
00:54:35
James Andrew Ella Tiffany Josiah uh
00:54:40
Josiah's brother like a whole bunch of
00:54:42
people that we just all packed in in a
00:54:44
my car and we just all went camping
00:54:47
together on my family's vacation so like
00:54:50
they were always
00:54:51
very um down for the party so yeah
00:54:55
that's a good a good way to live because
00:54:58
I mean what I've realized more and more
00:55:00
is like we only get one life to live
00:55:02
right and so it's just like you got to
00:55:04
make the most of it you got to have fun
00:55:06
you gotta explore you gotta like it's
00:55:09
okay to be a kid sometimes even as an
00:55:11
adult it's okay to be a kid sometimes
00:55:14
and just do those things and um no
00:55:17
that's super cool even as an adult you
00:55:19
should always have a set of play clothes
00:55:20
I am a strong believer in that too so
00:55:23
absolutely absolutely you kidding me
00:55:26
yeah no uh I worked at a toy store a
00:55:29
couple years ago and that was like some
00:55:31
of the most fun we did birthday parties
00:55:33
and but those were some of the most fun
00:55:36
of all time because it was just like we
00:55:39
just got to play and we got to play with
00:55:41
people and with kids and and kids can
00:55:44
tell when you're like an adult and
00:55:46
you're like they're just as enthralled
00:55:48
with whatever it is they're like you're
00:55:50
cool like cuz you're just with it you
00:55:53
know you're just yeah you're just in it
00:55:54
with they sniff out BS from like 12
00:55:57
miles away it's kind of ridiculous yeah
00:56:00
yeah I had a client who we were on a
00:56:02
call and his daughter came in the room
00:56:04
and we were chatting and and I had met
00:56:06
her and we were we were chatting or
00:56:07
whatever and she had a stuffed animal
00:56:09
and I was like oh can you tell me about
00:56:10
your stuffed animal or whatever and you
00:56:12
know does it have a name does it you
00:56:14
know favorite color all that kind of
00:56:15
stuff and um and then I was like do you
00:56:17
want to meet my favorite stuffed animal
00:56:19
and I went in the other room and I
00:56:21
grabbed I have my monkey from when I was
00:56:23
a kid still it looks disgusting it's
00:56:25
like
00:56:26
gross looking um it's like bald it's
00:56:29
like missing an eye like it's disgusting
00:56:30
looking and uh I showed her and she's
00:56:33
just like he's ugly and I was like well
00:56:35
I've had him for a really long time like
00:56:38
I've had him for like nearly 30 years
00:56:39
please but it's funny because whenever
00:56:42
we get on a call she now remembers me
00:56:44
because of that and so because of your
00:56:46
monkey because of my monkey and so it's
00:56:49
just yeah sometimes you just got to have
00:56:50
that childlike Wonder still um to this
00:56:53
day it's true Y and kids really open
00:56:55
your
00:56:56
they really open your world up to a lot
00:56:58
there's just so many things that I'm
00:57:00
like I I just like don't get to be a
00:57:03
selfish person because my life is in
00:57:06
servanthood to ultimately obviously
00:57:09
first to Ken but then to our kids and
00:57:12
it's like you just you just do it I
00:57:14
don't know but I'm still think most
00:57:16
people are like uh bitter I think a lot
00:57:18
of moms are bitter once they go into
00:57:20
motherhood but for me I'm like you just
00:57:21
got to roll with it like you just got to
00:57:23
go for it because they're not going to
00:57:25
be three and four and my kids they have
00:57:28
this cuss word that they've made up um
00:57:31
it's it's called a butt Fork I have no
00:57:33
idea what that is but everybody is a
00:57:35
butt Fork behind closed doors and it's
00:57:37
like even stuff like that it's
00:57:38
hysterical hilarious like I'm not gonna
00:57:40
get after them for saying butt Fork it's
00:57:41
freaking hilarious like that's so funny
00:57:45
yeah they keep things Lively yes well
00:57:48
that's awesome and um well I I wanted to
00:57:52
say it one more time thank you so much
00:57:53
for coming on and is there anything
00:57:56
that in chatting has either sprung to
00:58:00
mind where you're like oh shoot I just
00:58:01
remembered this story I got to share it
00:58:03
or uh any last words that you want to
00:58:05
leave the people
00:58:07
with
00:58:09
man I don't know I um I don't miss
00:58:13
Ventura I'll tell you
00:58:16
that California is my home state but
00:58:19
Kentucky is my soul state so I know a
00:58:20
lot of people have wondered like oh why
00:58:22
is she there like I love living here so
00:58:23
if anyone's wondering um I cannot tell
00:58:25
you the of times I get asked that
00:58:27
probably once a week by someone from
00:58:29
Ventura uh so and that's not like a dig
00:58:32
at all it's just like this side of the
00:58:35
country just is awesome like it's so fun
00:58:38
oh
00:58:39
yeah but yeah I
00:58:43
mean I don't know I'm I'm really
00:58:45
thankful for for youth group and just
00:58:47
being able to make friends ultimately
00:58:49
and um thankful that we had a an awesome
00:58:53
church that we got to go to that for me
00:58:56
I mean looking back between CH youth
00:58:59
group and ym like those were really big
00:59:01
things that shaped my life and um I'm
00:59:04
thankful for the people that poured into
00:59:06
me even when I was a little crapper so
00:59:10
um yeah I don't know I just think there
00:59:12
that
00:59:14
uh yeah that that time of life was
00:59:17
better than what I was thinking it was
00:59:19
when I was in it and obviously you
00:59:21
always look back with fond eyes
00:59:23
eventually but um yeah I did not have a
00:59:27
negative experience with homeschool or
00:59:29
youth group or any of those things so um
00:59:32
I hope that we'll get to Foster
00:59:34
something similar to that for our kids
00:59:36
so good yeah and if people are uh
00:59:38
thinking about wanting to homeschool
00:59:40
their kids obviously I'm like not that
00:59:42
far in but I have a ton of kids anybody
00:59:44
can text me and ask me how it's going so
00:59:47
yeah no that's that's cool well yeah
00:59:50
nothing nothing
00:59:52
profound he that's okay not everything I
00:59:54
don't have advit for anyone everything
00:59:56
has to be a TED talk you know yeah well
01:00:00
Morgan this has been awesome and I
01:00:01
appreciate your time so much and um it's
01:00:04
been great like catching up and
01:00:05
reconnecting with you and it's been it's
01:00:07
been a little while so and we're
01:00:09
neighbors so who knows maybe we probably
01:00:11
have the highest likelihood of actually
01:00:13
running into each other at some point
01:00:14
it's true it's true and we love
01:00:16
Nashville like Nashville coffee shops
01:00:18
are what we we go down there literally
01:00:20
just to drink coffee so well cool well
01:00:23
next time you're in town we'll go get
01:00:24
coffee do it yep I'd love to meet your
01:00:27
wife so yeah all right well this has
01:00:30
been the ex homeschoolers Club thank you
01:00:32
thank you thank you for listening and uh
01:00:34
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01:00:42
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01:00:44
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01:00:56
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01:00:59
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01:01:01
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01:01:02
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01:01:04
me up um I want to chat and I want to
01:01:06
reminisce with you so uh this has been
01:01:08
great and uh until next time we'll see
01:01:10
you all right peace
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