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Despite all my mixed feelings about it now, like I do have a lot of affection for Classical Conversations, and it
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connected me to like some really cool, smart kids. But like also as an adult now, just taking a step back is like
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Oh, like there are some there there's some weird things about this, like saying that pledge allegiance
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to the Christian flag like every Friday morning. Like that there there's just some weird like Christian nationalism
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like a day adjacent things um to what I recognize.