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We talk about women in purity culture all the time, but I think there's almost like this placing men as like these
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predatory people who have no control and like you're the you are responsible for
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that like male person who doesn't have control over these things, which is like also a terrible thing to say about men.
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>> [laughter] >> Yeah, I can I can totally speak to this because >> Yeah, for sure. You are a man.
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>> I'm a straight white guy. I'm a man. Like the these are the things that I was
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taught and so getting taught at church or through books that are getting given to us, the guys the way that we're
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reading it is that we are uncontrollable animals. That it's normal in a lot of senses to very much like be attracted to
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to a woman and have urges and and those types of things, which to some degree yeah, it's like that's it's totally
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normal to be attracted to somebody, right? It's totally normal to have urges. However, it's
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it's then taken to a point of being told that that is an uncontrollable thing inside of you and there's nothing you
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can do to like stop it. And it's like, okay. And then so it puts all of the emphasis on the girls then.
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Cuz again, you and I are also growing up in an area where heteronormativity is like the thing. Being told that it is
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a girl's responsibility to make sure that you don't stumble and fall and take advantage of her in in some way. So it
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takes all of this responsibility off of the guys. And so it's this really weird kind of thing because guys are also
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being taught, especially in the home school environment, like chivalry. We're being taught like to be honorable
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towards women. And then on like the flip side, we're also being told that like we
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can't control ourselves around women. It's like a very strange type of thing.