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well welcome back to the ex
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homeschoolers Club I of course your host
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Jacob goodon and today I am joined by my
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friend Kira uh many of you will probably
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remember her as Kira Hatton but she is
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now Kira minshaw did I say that
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correctly okay
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yep very cool um we kind of know each
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other a little bit um there's definitely
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an age Gap uh where it's like a 4 AG uh
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four-year age gap between us um and uh
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so we don't know each other super well
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but we're gonna get to know each other
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better today and uh so Cara thank you
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for coming on the show thank you for
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having me this is really cool excited
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yeah I'm I'm stoked you reached out to
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me and that's been one of the greatest
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things about this show is having people
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reach out so um you know I I guess to
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kick it off like one if you have a story
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please like reach out to me and come on
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the show share it with me even if you
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don't want to come on the show and just
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you know we need to reconnect as a
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community as a homeschool weirdo
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Community we need to reconnect so bakira
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let's set the scene for your homeschool
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life okay um siblings Family Life how
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long were you homeschooled um that kind
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of thing like walk me kind of through an
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overall picture of your homeschool
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Journey yeah so my journey is a little
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bit chaotic um I moved to California
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when I was three and a half okay um I
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have a younger sister and younger
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brother we are all 18 months apart wow
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so yeah lots of fighting growing up but
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we love each other all the same
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um I my parents were not folks who were
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like we're gonna homeschool our children
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they we moved to Filmore California and
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the school system was horrible I think
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it still is pretty bad to the point like
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the city of Filmore is like you don't
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have to go to our school you can go to
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any other school that's okay usually
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that's not the case with public school
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right um so my parents tried putting me
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into private school in Filmore because
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it was close by um so I did private
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school
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kindergarten and the age cut off in
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California is very different than it is
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around the world or at least around the
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rest of the country um so if I so
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started technically young um if I had
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gone to if I was born in the midwest I
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would have been a year behind what I am
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okay um so kindergarten was fine I loved
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it but my parents were like private
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school is not
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financially wise espe especially since
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we have three kids so we're going to try
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homeschooling our first grader and my
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mom had never even kind of dreamt about
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homeschooling she would tell you that if
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when she was a young adult if someone
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told her she'd be homeschooling her kids
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she would have laughed in their faces um
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but she Tri most homeschooled moms to be
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honest I think most of them were like
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this is not the life I envisioned for
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myself yep yep um and so she tried it
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for a year and it she did it like the
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very Raw Pure homeschooling where you
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don't have a co-op or anything and we
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were all so miserable um same
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so I was like man I miss like seeing
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friends and stuff and so my parents were
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like okay well we either put her back in
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private school or we have to figure
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something out not sure what we're
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supposed to be doing but maybe we hold
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her
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back because she's so young and if she
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were to go
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to college she's going to be 17 when she
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starts college and I don't know if we're
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okay with that so they tried holding me
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back by putting me into a different
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private school so I did first grade
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again kind of for only like a month or
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two I forget how long I was there short
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period of time because I uh was one of
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the smarter ones in the class and
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because of that I was being um abused
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and bullied by the teachers oh gee
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that's fun and I didn't learn anything
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um yeah and so my parents were like not
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this and so they took me out and they
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put me in second grade they're like you
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know what holding her back isn't a good
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thing we're going to put her in private
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school second grade again and that was
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good that was a good year learned a lot
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of social skills there um but then the
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third grade teacher we heard was abusing
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the children and then this was in a time
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where kids weren't listen heard they
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weren't heard so there were all these
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kids in third grade being like duct
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taped and locked in the closet if they
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got a bad grade or misbehaved just a
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little bit um and I was terrified I
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believed my friends who were a year
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ahead of me telling me these things um
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and I am grateful to have parents who
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believe me and they're like you know
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what homeschooling it is but we're gonna
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try a co-op because we've been hearing
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about co-ops and that sounds like a good
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thing to
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do later on that teacher ended up being
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fired so Justice was served but good I
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was homeschooled because of that and and
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then that's when I entered the scene of
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group Solutions was about third grade
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yeah um and then we like I think the a
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year later we joined a
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cheve um so did that
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for all the way up until sophomore year
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of high school uh we introduced
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classical conversations which was kind
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of like a um almost like a charter
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school system but you met every week and
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you took more um standardized testing
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and stuff and it was smaller classes
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with the exact same teacher and the
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exact same students so it's more of like
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a traditional class setup and that was
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really good but it was weird because I
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was like the only girl it was me and one
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other girl in the whole class um and
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then after sophomore year my parents got
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divorced and moved to Ohio and went to
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public school and finished out High
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School there
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we'll get more into some of the
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homeschool stuff but that transition to
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go to public school was that like a big
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shock for you or do you feel like it
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wasn't I mean there's a lot going on in
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life too so may maybe there was a big
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shock just in general but like but was
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that difficult challenging like was it
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easy all of a sudden so I
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think because I had
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done two years of private school as a
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kid it wasn't a total shot for me
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okay um if anything I was just really
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angry because I thought it was stupid
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because public school system I had
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teachers be like
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well we still have 40 minutes and you
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can't leave this room so I want you to
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just do this work right for no reason
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and I'm like this is the most ridiculous
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design you we're done with with all the
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learning we're supposed to do today and
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you legally just have to keep us in this
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little box and in the midwest at least
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the schools is like a prison literally
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there you cannot go
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outside at all and not every and very
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few classrooms have Windows for tornado
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reasons yeah so it's just dark overhead
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lighting for eight hours yeah just stuck
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inside dang
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man that yeah well and if you're used to
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homeschool I mean that's the great thing
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about it is like if you do math in 15
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minutes then math is done in 15 minutes
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if it takes you four hours then it took
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you four hours like there's no in
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between you know what I mean yeah um and
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yeah well and then also sometimes being
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able to work on your own schedule is
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like also helpful like I was more of a
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night person and so I did school a lot
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at night you know and everyone in my
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house would be asleep and I would be up
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reading you know right yeah
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when you put yourself in a Traditional
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School setting it's not always the case
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that you get you don't get that luxury
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you know
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exactly yeah everyone was really
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impressed that way too yeah yeah
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absolutely no I my my wife went to
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private school and but she would talk
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about like getting up and having to get
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ready for school and I'm like that just
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sounds awful like it just I'm like my
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first two my first two hours of school
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were in my pajamas you
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know um you know and definitely like
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more of that what people think of as
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that more traditional homeschool
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experience right of like a kid in their
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pajamas and you know whatever but yeah
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that was something my my
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parents they I think they were afraid of
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us becoming stereotypical homeschool
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kids so they're
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like by 88 AM you need to be dressed and
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at the table okay my my see my mom I
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think tried to do that and then I think
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it was just a losing battle for her like
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it was just we fought it so hard that I
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think she just gave up where she's like
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makesense they're getting there but it's
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you know
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um I don't know no it was funny because
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she was so used to me being uh this more
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night person and then when I got when I
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moved home after college for a year I
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got a job as a barista well when you
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drink coffee first thing in the morning
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most people got to show up to work you
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know I was Jo up to work leaving having
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to get up at 4:00 a.m. be at work by you
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know 5:30 6 um you know kind of a thing
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and she's like who is this person
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because I've never met him before
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uh I'm like you know it's 8:30 at night
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I'm like I'm going to bed I'll see you
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tomorrow that's awesome so with the
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homeschooling stuff so classical
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conversations this I'm a little bit
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familiar with this because my cousin who
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was also homeschooled classical
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conversations um in comparison to
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something like a group
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Solutions are there particular classes
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you choose like oh this is what I'm
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going to take through classical
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conversation no it's just that it it's
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its own kind of curriculum that you sign
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up
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for so what what exactly what kind of
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stuff is being taught through classical
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conversations classical conversations
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was a good hybrid of taking like
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traditional like schooling that you
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would see at a private school or public
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school and merging it with um a co-op
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like group Solutions so you would meet
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only one once a week you had the same
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teacher teaching all of the
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subjects um we had a Let's see we had a
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[Music]
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Bible class that we had to take we did a
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history we did um a debate SL politics
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class um there
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was
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math
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grammar and I think oh and in art but
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the art sophomore year was um theater so
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we had to put on a Shakespeare play okay
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um it was a lot more um rigorous than
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something like group Solutions right
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especially because it was weekly oh and
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and and um I took Latin so it was a
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language yeah that is something about
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classical conversations if you if you
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were in classical conversations your
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whole um childhood you would have been
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fluent in Latin okay well that's it
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interesting yeah that's honestly a great
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skill I agree because Latin is the the
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base of basically every language uh
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Under the Sun yeah and just so for
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anyone listening who's like not familiar
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with anything we're talking about when
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we say like group Solutions classical
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conversations you did a great job
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explaining what classical conversations
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is group Solutions on the other hand of
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that was basically an every other week
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meeting that
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was uh three periods so you took three
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different classes and taught by other
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parents other homeschool parents and it
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was a mix of like there were some
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academic things like you could take a
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science class you could take an English
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class you could take things like that
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but then there was also fun classes
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mixed in there like cooking guitar class
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uh I know there was a games class at one
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point they talk golf uh know film making
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yeah I think the golf only lasted one
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year one of the dads I think taught that
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um
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and I we I took a class one year that
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was oh man I'm trying to remember what
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it was but we did we like joined up with
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the golf class for one week and I think
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it it was just really clear that none of
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us were good at it and also like golf
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clubs are
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expensive um and I'm pretty sure as kids
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we didn't really understand that so I
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think we were also just like beating
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these clubs to to
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death potentially um but I I don't know
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anyway but yeah but it was kind of more
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of
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a less a little bit less structured I
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know parents did have to submit like
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their curriculum of like what they were
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going to teach in the syllabus and all
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that kind of stuff but it was to your
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point it's not a weekly thing it's not a
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build out of like every single year
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you're going to be guaranteed you have
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these classes it's really up to moms to
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parents to be like well next year I'm
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going to teach this kind of a thing um
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and the other thing with group Solutions
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was that if you wanted to participate in
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group Solutions you as a parent had a
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role to teach a class so it wasn't just
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a like oh sign your kids up drop them
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off that kind of a thing it was like you
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also are actively being a teacher of
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something um as well so well we were
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chatting beforehand that your mom kind
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of headed up yearbook for group
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Solutions um both as a class and then
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also just as a thing that we got to take
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home at the end of the year um and uh
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and then I also know that you are a
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filmmaker um type person but do you get
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that kind
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of creative picking up a camera aspect
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of your of your life from your mom I get
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it actually from both my
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parents which surprises a lot of people
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because my dad is not
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artistic um but
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he both of my parents triy to go into
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the film industry okay when they were
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about 20 years old okay um my dad wanted
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to do the editing side of things and my
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mom wanted to do acting then realiz she
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want to be behind the
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camera and then both of them somewhere
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in the early 20s either like my Dad
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tried the industry hated how they
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treated people and was like this isn't
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for me so he went down business route
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became good at that and then my mom um
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still had a heart for it but kind of in
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a similar vein was like I don't like how
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Hollywood is so if if the industry was
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like it today when she was looking at
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careers I think she would have continued
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um because there's just it's not just
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Hollywood now you've got all the things
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um right and I think she would have gone
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into it
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so um to that degree I have two
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Storyteller parents um and I just kind
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of found it myself they never push it on
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me they never even told me that they
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were they were that was something they
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wanted to do until I started picking up
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on it because it it started when I was
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in fifth grade um there was this little
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iPod Touch app called video star and you
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could make a whole music video with it
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and I would Wrangle up my neighborhood
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friends and we I would write a story
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with them and direct them I just it was
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so much fun and then I join video
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production with group Solutions and that
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was kind of where that really kicked off
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obviously Phil still making kind of yeah
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birthed out of those early years those
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you know grade school years and then
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that was kind of what you pursued in
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college so once you graduated was it an
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instant I'm going to I'm headed to
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college or did you did you take some
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time and then yeah and then what did the
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College Years look like and then and
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then we'll get into a little bit more of
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like what you're doing
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today I have to go to it started at the
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video production class in group
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Solutions um I took that class my in
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middle school and that's where I got I
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learned like the whole art of film
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making and I fell in love with it um my
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script got chosen my first semester to
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be made and so we made the typing Terror
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starring Caleb svard and Emily Aldrich
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yes and um I just fell in love with it
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but I didn't know that was what I wanted
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to do to make a living so I started
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pursuing interior design like all
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through high school and then moved went
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to public school and I missed making
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videos so much that I created a
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club and I started teaching people
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basically took the idea of video
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production the class and made a video
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production Club it was like the coolest
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thing I've ever done with my life um my
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mom was like Kira you're not going to
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want to hear this but I think you want
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to go into film I was like you don't
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know what you're talking about and then
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like a month later I was like I'm sorry
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you know exactly what you're talking
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about and so I went to the University of
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Cincinnati and studied film making um
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and I brought the club with me and it is
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still doing its thing today it's oh wow
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how old is it
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now it's about eight years old now wow
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it's cool to just see how many people
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have like fall in love with film making
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and stuff yeah yeah College itself um
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was really hard MH uh for not the
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reasons probably you're thinking um it
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was hard more socially and emotionally
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other than um also going through a
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pandemic with it right
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um but when I look back on it like it
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was a complete waste of my
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time um the only thing that made it
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worth it was video production club and
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that's where I met my husband okay
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otherwise the schooling itself I was
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very prepared for because of how I was
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homeschooled homeschooling prepared me
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more for University than
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um public school
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did probably because of time management
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right so you said so during pandemic so
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you were in college 2020 when did you
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when did you start college when did you
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finish I started 2018 graduated um fall
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of 2019 or sorry 21 21 okay so I had
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three and a half years years yeah okay
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very cool just to kind of give people an
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idea too of like um that's one of the
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questions I've been getting more and
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more and I I feel bad sometimes when I
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don't get this answered of like well how
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old are you guys I'm like well I'm 28
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but I'm interviewing people who are like
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all over the Spectrum um you know uh
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older than me younger than me all those
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types of things so okay so continue 2019
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2021 you're in college
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pandemic video Club all these wonderful
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things best thing to come out of it was
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a husband y I would argue that my the
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best thing to come out of my college
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experience was my wife so I'm with you
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at least with my industry like like
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going to University they made it seem
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like you needed a degree in order to do
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but no you just need to learn how to
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network yeah which I did learn that I
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did learn how to network I appreciate
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that but I wouldn't say it was worth
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that much money so after College then
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like how long did it take for you to get
00:20:32
kind of started in like okay I'm
00:20:35
actually like making a living doing this
00:20:38
oh making a living doing it um
00:20:43
technically yeah good question I the
00:20:45
Arts are definitely the underpaid We Do
00:20:47
It For Love of the Game not not for
00:20:50
always exactly well I technically
00:20:53
started working
00:20:56
locally two months after I started
00:20:58
college
00:21:00
so I've been my I've had my own business
00:21:03
since 2018 as a independent contractor
00:21:07
and I've done a lot of local commercials
00:21:09
and video projects here in Cincinnati
00:21:12
since then um but once I
00:21:16
graduated um it took like nine months
00:21:21
for work to pick up granted um Co really
00:21:26
hurt the film industry because for a
00:21:29
while there we couldn't make anything
00:21:31
and then we could only make stuff if we
00:21:34
were all six feet apart and that's
00:21:36
really hard to do in front of a camera
00:21:39
and behind a camera most of the sets are
00:21:42
like house and everybody's in tight
00:21:45
quarters and you have gear and Equipment
00:21:47
you're all breathing on each other
00:21:48
anyway but it made it difficult because
00:21:50
then also we had to like take covid
00:21:53
tests every day we on set but what after
00:21:57
that nine Monon period I got brought on
00:22:00
to a Netflix movie and I moved to
00:22:03
Atlanta for six months and got to work
00:22:04
on that and that was the coolest
00:22:06
experience I've ever had um and then I
00:22:10
came back to
00:22:11
Cincinnati got married planned to move
00:22:14
to Atlanta ended up not moving to
00:22:16
Atlanta um and I've just been doing
00:22:19
local commercials since um and then I'll
00:22:22
go back down to Atlanta when there is
00:22:23
work but the Hollywood industry is kind
00:22:25
of in a crisis right now yeah we're
00:22:28
being p patient yeah hey sometimes
00:22:31
sometimes you just kind of wait for that
00:22:32
right project sometimes but y so so I
00:22:36
did a little bit of snooping because I
00:22:37
think you are the only
00:22:39
person within my network of people I'm
00:22:42
pretty sure who h no I take this back I
00:22:45
was gonna say you're the only person I
00:22:46
know with an IMDb page that's not true
00:22:49
because I did interview uh uh Andy Lopez
00:22:54
or Lowa I'm sorry I interviewed Laura
00:22:56
Lopez um but um chatting with the Lopez
00:22:59
twins um they also have Im dbes so
00:23:03
you're not the only person I know with
00:23:04
IM dph but anyway but that was when I
00:23:09
was preparing for our conversation I was
00:23:11
like okay I got to check this out I got
00:23:13
to see what you've worked on and this
00:23:15
Netflix movie that is coming out right
00:23:17
it's not out yet um merch yeah it looks
00:23:21
really cool tell us a little bit about
00:23:23
that and then what you did for for that
00:23:25
movie so the movie is called the
00:23:27
electric stage I'm allowed to say that
00:23:29
now um it's called the electric State
00:23:32
it's a Russo Russo brother film um and
00:23:39
it's going to come out March
00:23:42
14th I was a staffed on set production
00:23:46
assistant for that movie so I worked
00:23:48
with the I worked really closely with
00:23:50
the assistant directors as an assistant
00:23:52
directing Department um and my job
00:23:56
ranged from every everything but mainly
00:24:00
my purpose was to um be the source of
00:24:03
communication to everybody on set keep
00:24:06
everybody on time make sure set was
00:24:08
running smoothly make sure everyone was
00:24:10
safe um manage the cast make sure they
00:24:14
were where they needed to be on
00:24:16
time um when we did re-shoot back in the
00:24:20
spring actually we went we did a whole
00:24:22
another month of re shoots I was
00:24:24
promoted to the motion capture
00:24:27
production assistant so then I was in
00:24:28
charge of
00:24:30
managing the motion team so they're
00:24:32
actors who wear the really cool
00:24:33
bodysuits who we get to put animated
00:24:36
characters on their movements later on
00:24:38
in the production so all the robots are
00:24:41
actually real people um yeah which was
00:24:43
fun and so that oh that's cool that was
00:24:45
my department I got to oversee and take
00:24:47
care of yeah and I'm gonna drop a link
00:24:50
to watch the trailer because the trailer
00:24:52
just dropped recently um but yeah uh
00:24:55
Millie Bobby Brown Chris Pratt uh in a
00:24:59
world where robots exist and not not
00:25:01
every robot looks the same they all are
00:25:03
like really I watched a trailer last
00:25:04
night I was like this movie looks
00:25:07
awesome it's gonna be really sweet it's
00:25:11
uh written by the same writers who did
00:25:15
Captain America and who did um Lion
00:25:18
witch in the
00:25:19
wardrobe
00:25:20
um it I highly recommend watching it I
00:25:24
was lucky to be able to work on it yeah
00:25:27
no for for sure cuz like I'm stoked I'm
00:25:31
stoked I'm
00:25:32
like um and I don't get that I don't get
00:25:35
that excited for movies that are not
00:25:37
like yeah you know what I mean like
00:25:39
they're not I don't know we're in a
00:25:41
crisis right like you said we're in a
00:25:42
crisis right now where everything is
00:25:43
like remakes and sequels and all that
00:25:46
kind of stuff and so um yeah but
00:25:48
watching that I was like I'm genuinely
00:25:50
interested in this um for the Sci-Fi
00:25:52
element for you know the story looks
00:25:55
really cool and things like that I
00:25:57
wanted to bring up another project
00:25:58
that's on your IMDb page because because
00:26:01
I have questions about this I have not
00:26:02
watched this show but you worked on a
00:26:05
show that's called
00:26:08
homeschooled yeah tell me about that
00:26:10
because I'm I definitely added it to my
00:26:13
watch list last night oh my goodness um
00:26:17
homeschooled was my very
00:26:20
first television
00:26:23
project um we filmed season 2 um spring
00:26:27
of 2020
00:26:28
we actually got shut down by Co and had
00:26:30
to rewrite the whole script and come
00:26:31
back in September so that was a whole
00:26:33
mess um but I got to be the second
00:26:37
assistant director for it um and it was
00:26:40
so much fun
00:26:42
um it's very low quality very low budget
00:26:47
um but it's just fun to to make a story
00:26:50
about another perspective of
00:26:52
homeschooling because the concept of
00:26:54
this show is this is a larger homeschool
00:26:57
family with a big sister who like
00:26:59
angrily left home for a long time and
00:27:01
then um finds out she gets a call one
00:27:03
day that her parents died so now she has
00:27:08
to raise her younger
00:27:11
siblings um and just the Journey of
00:27:14
relearning family and love and kindness
00:27:17
and just being able to face trauma as a
00:27:20
family unit and overcome it and she
00:27:23
homeschools all of them hey I mean that
00:27:25
story is not that far off from some
00:27:27
people's reality um I know people that
00:27:30
are living that right now so uh
00:27:32
definitely will be giving it a watch um
00:27:35
because I was like I was just intrigued
00:27:37
right off the bat by I was like I was
00:27:39
like is this a school project what is
00:27:41
like what is this no this is like a
00:27:43
legit it's on Roku I believe um so
00:27:47
anyway yeah again another thing to add
00:27:50
to the watch list uh if you're
00:27:51
interested if you want to see what K has
00:27:53
worked on um check out her IMDb B page
00:27:57
and then you know give give these movies
00:27:59
a watch it's been fun please do please
00:28:02
do
00:28:04
um okay so I want to talk a little bit
00:28:07
about like storytelling if you're if
00:28:10
you're down
00:28:12
because um it's something that I'm I'm
00:28:17
actively trying to learn right I'm I'm
00:28:19
actively trying to learn how to tell a
00:28:21
good story how to make the show engaging
00:28:24
how to you know that kind of a thing but
00:28:27
you know as someone who does that for a
00:28:29
living
00:28:31
like I don't know tell tell me about it
00:28:33
like give me um a nugget of a nugget of
00:28:36
gold here I guess um but like is there
00:28:39
anything in particular that you feel
00:28:41
like if someone's wanting to learn how
00:28:43
to tell a good story whether it's film
00:28:45
photography whatever podcast um you know
00:28:50
where where should they start what you
00:28:52
know what should they be looking
00:28:53
for you want to start by figuring out
00:28:56
what kind of story you're trying to tell
00:28:59
yeah it helps to think in framework of
00:29:02
genre are you trying to tell a story
00:29:04
that is joyful are you trying to sell a
00:29:08
painful story are you trying to
00:29:11
bring
00:29:13
um I and then I guess you want to ask
00:29:15
yourself the next question is like well
00:29:17
then who are you trying to
00:29:19
reach and how are you trying to reach
00:29:21
them because like you can be telling a
00:29:23
really sad
00:29:24
story but if it just ends on the sad
00:29:27
note then what was the point but if
00:29:29
you're trying to tell a sad story that
00:29:31
provokes an action for somebody to start
00:29:33
making a difference in the
00:29:35
world there you go right I think those
00:29:38
are just like when it comes to the first
00:29:40
two questions you ask yourself is what
00:29:43
kind of story you're trying to tell and
00:29:44
who you're trying to tell it to this
00:29:46
show originally started with kind of
00:29:48
this idea
00:29:51
of kind of just sharing the bad about
00:29:53
homeschooling kind of the nasty right
00:29:56
and most of that stemmed from from my
00:29:58
own like having left it looking back
00:30:01
things I didn't like I think I had
00:30:03
overall a good homeschool experience but
00:30:05
I know a lot of people who didn't and so
00:30:07
I was like oh I want to just kind of
00:30:08
like focus in on that and tell these
00:30:11
stories and then I sat with it for about
00:30:13
a year and I was like I think this is
00:30:15
the wrong choice because it it's very
00:30:18
easily just going to become well you're
00:30:20
just hateful kind of a thing um because
00:30:24
there's not there's not a purpose behind
00:30:25
it other than like let's just share
00:30:27
these stories
00:30:28
right and what I settled on was kind of
00:30:31
what the slogan of the show is which is
00:30:33
The Good the Bad and the Ugly of
00:30:34
homeschooling which is we have great
00:30:37
stories we have hilarious times of being
00:30:39
homeschooled kids we also have some
00:30:41
really bad times and there's some really
00:30:42
ugly out there um and I wanted to
00:30:47
hopefully create a space that people
00:30:49
felt safe talking about any and all of
00:30:51
that um and so that's why some episodes
00:30:54
are going to be much more happy you know
00:30:57
because people had good experiences or
00:30:59
that's just what we're choosing to focus
00:31:00
on that day other people they had some
00:31:03
bad stuff and we gota we gota chat about
00:31:05
it um but I think that's helped kind of
00:31:09
having that direction like you said of
00:31:11
kind of choosing why do I want to tell
00:31:12
this and then what's the outcome of this
00:31:14
and that part for me came from I met a
00:31:17
homeschool family here in Tennessee and
00:31:20
I realized that I was like they don't
00:31:22
know what they don't know right Mom and
00:31:25
Dad don't know this is this is the first
00:31:26
time they're homeschooling anybody
00:31:29
they don't know what they don't know but
00:31:31
right can I provide them an opportunity
00:31:33
to hear stories of what I know about
00:31:36
what worked what didn't work um and can
00:31:38
I get my friends to come along with me
00:31:40
to tell those stories right um because
00:31:43
the things that work for me didn't work
00:31:44
for everybody the things that worked for
00:31:45
somebody didn't you know right you know
00:31:49
I think a lot of people now are learning
00:31:51
to tell stories right we have such an
00:31:52
influx of content creation and things
00:31:54
like that but people lack the idea of
00:31:56
like how do you tell a good story right
00:31:58
what is the purpose of it um so that's
00:32:02
important do you have anything in the
00:32:04
works right now that you can talk about
00:32:07
I'm finally breaking into writing and
00:32:09
directing my own commercials so that's
00:32:11
exciting um otherwise I've been
00:32:14
screenwriting because so Hollywood is in
00:32:17
a major crisis right now I think we're
00:32:19
seeing the downfall of Hollywood um like
00:32:23
there's a mass Exodus of filmmakers
00:32:26
leaving the industry right so what I'm
00:32:29
doing right now is hunkering down in
00:32:31
screenwriting and working on buttoning
00:32:34
up my scripts so if and when things do
00:32:38
start opening back up I can submit my
00:32:40
work right I think what's really
00:32:43
interesting and I mean you might know
00:32:45
more about this than I do but so a
00:32:48
couple years ago I went to a really big
00:32:50
podcasting convention and there
00:32:53
was people from iHeart Radio there there
00:32:56
was people from ABC
00:32:58
there was people from um uh like Amazon
00:33:03
like these big companies right and one
00:33:05
of the things they were talking about
00:33:06
was at the time a lot of scripts that
00:33:10
people were writing were getting picked
00:33:11
up to do these podcasts um to do a
00:33:14
podcast version and storytelling and if
00:33:17
they could effectively tell that story
00:33:20
just through audio then they were
00:33:22
starting to get picked up for a movie or
00:33:24
television show or some other media
00:33:28
right animation that kind of thing and
00:33:31
so I think that's interesting I don't
00:33:33
know if you're still seeing if that's
00:33:35
still pretty prevalent um now or not but
00:33:40
I
00:33:40
mean I definitely think it's prevalent I
00:33:43
think it's just hard right now the
00:33:45
people with the money who will pick up
00:33:47
the scripts aren't making things right
00:33:48
now right right yeah well I it's hard I
00:33:52
think a lot of the big the big the big
00:33:55
boys that are playing they yeah they're
00:33:58
cashing in
00:33:59
on sequels and you know reboots and all
00:34:03
that kind of a thing you know and it
00:34:05
doesn't help when like the biggest movie
00:34:07
of this year is a Marvel franchise movie
00:34:11
right that doesn't that doesn't help
00:34:14
when you want to get other projects made
00:34:15
that have nothing to do with any of that
00:34:17
so we are due for an indie Revolution
00:34:20
here soon though so yeah yeah so what do
00:34:24
you think of Studios like I know like a
00:34:27
24 you know they put out a good number
00:34:30
of stuff and I know obviously like you
00:34:32
know there's there are some really cool
00:34:36
like film festivals that happen um I
00:34:39
know na Nashville does their own Film
00:34:40
Festival it's a lot of documentaries but
00:34:42
there are some like shorter films as
00:34:44
well um but yeah do you think it's what
00:34:50
do you think I don't know do you have
00:34:51
any thoughts on what it's going to take
00:34:53
for things to kind of Flip or you think
00:34:55
it's just time it's just time
00:34:58
because we're already starting that um
00:35:00
because to put it in perspective people
00:35:02
I know who've done been in this industry
00:35:03
for 20 or more years are switching
00:35:05
careers because they can't put a roof
00:35:07
over their head anymore right um it's
00:35:11
it's a matter of maker break it's either
00:35:14
going to
00:35:16
be the industry completely collapses and
00:35:20
we're going to go a while without making
00:35:21
anything because we don't can't afford
00:35:22
to make anything or um it's going to be
00:35:25
people are going to be like you know
00:35:26
what we're tired of this and then
00:35:28
there's going to be a special group of
00:35:29
people with money who will fund
00:35:31
Independent films and they're going to
00:35:32
be like yeah we're tired of watching the
00:35:34
same movies over and over again so we're
00:35:36
just gonna use our own money and we're
00:35:37
gonna make stuff right that's what I
00:35:40
think is gonna happen it's just a matter
00:35:42
of when yeah I think it'd be interesting
00:35:46
to see too a rise
00:35:49
of like people kind of like a
00:35:53
crowdfunded movie industry to some
00:35:55
degree right um that's what
00:35:58
stud okay so because I had this I used
00:36:03
to work in the web 3 Arena crypto all
00:36:06
that kind of stuff which I know it's
00:36:08
like dirty bad words to a lot of people
00:36:10
and you know just reeks of scammy um I
00:36:13
was just a production guy I just made
00:36:15
the videos behind the scenes um oh yeah
00:36:18
but one of the things that they they
00:36:19
talked about was using something like an
00:36:23
nft right to have people buy into a
00:36:26
project um and kind of own a piece of
00:36:28
that right and there's many ways to do
00:36:30
this but um there was a couple movies at
00:36:32
the time that were getting made that I
00:36:34
thought was really interesting right
00:36:35
it's like you spend $300 I get to own
00:36:39
this piece of this movie right um and I
00:36:41
get to have my name in the credits and
00:36:43
all these things um exclusive access to
00:36:45
the release all those types of things
00:36:47
but we get to make this movie that if
00:36:50
enough people are behind
00:36:51
it it could be a blockbuster right it
00:36:54
could be this Mega film um and
00:36:58
so I don't know I like like you said
00:37:01
Angel Studios does that um but I don't
00:37:04
know maybe that's a way forward for some
00:37:07
people hey it's better than where we're
00:37:09
at right now but we need to figure out
00:37:11
the streaming service thing that's what
00:37:13
the that's what's causing most of the
00:37:14
issu yes yeah yeah because that has a
00:37:16
lot to do with it's like royalties right
00:37:18
it's a big a big chunk of it right and
00:37:20
royalties with streaming is just like
00:37:23
Absolut in the in the right now
00:37:25
exactly it's like doesn't exist right
00:37:27
yeah yeah so no it's important people
00:37:30
need to get paid and exactly you are
00:37:33
correct yeah the music industry is the
00:37:35
same way right it's like people people
00:37:38
look at the the success stories of
00:37:39
people like a Taylor Swift and things
00:37:41
like that but uh but you know your
00:37:44
average little Hometown band on Spotify
00:37:47
is making pennies on the dollar uh with
00:37:49
their streams so support support artists
00:37:53
guys um if you can we need it not
00:37:55
everything not everything is free and be
00:37:58
okay with the fact that sometimes you
00:37:59
got to pay um to watch
00:38:02
something that being said do you still
00:38:05
enjoy going to the movies is there
00:38:08
something about like like if you're
00:38:10
gonna watch a film or even a TV show but
00:38:14
like um do you find it more magical to
00:38:18
be in a movie theater than at home okay
00:38:21
100% well especially
00:38:23
because we've taken away that
00:38:29
magic we're like we're gonna just you
00:38:32
can pull it up on your laptop on your
00:38:33
phone the screen can get smaller and
00:38:35
smaller and you're gonna watch these
00:38:37
grandio movies that we're spent like 300
00:38:40
billion dollars on and you're gonna
00:38:44
watch it like that big and you're gonna
00:38:46
be like eh it was okay no you gotta like
00:38:49
like maybe go get dressed up bring a
00:38:51
date get some popcorn like walk into an
00:38:54
experience let yourself be surrounded by
00:38:56
high quality speakers with projectors
00:38:59
with higher quality lenses than your TV
00:39:02
or your phone and just let yourself just
00:39:04
like forget the world for a minute
00:39:07
somewhere you can't pause the movie and
00:39:09
just enjoy the story yeah when you're in
00:39:12
an environment where like kids can be
00:39:14
screaming or you hear ambulances or
00:39:16
you're you have to use bathrooms you
00:39:18
keep pausing it you're taking yourself
00:39:19
out of the story and out of the purpose
00:39:22
of a movie or a play is to help the
00:39:25
audience like forget your life for a
00:39:28
moment and just jump into a different
00:39:30
story yeah experience someone else's
00:39:33
emotions I can I can definitely attest I
00:39:36
recently went and saw um a movie called
00:39:39
rear window which is a very old movie um
00:39:42
but it this was like the 60th
00:39:44
anniversary of that movie or something
00:39:46
so they re-released it in theaters and
00:39:48
um one it's an amazing film if you
00:39:50
haven't watched it it's absolutely
00:39:51
fantastic um have you seen this movie
00:39:54
that I'm talking about no okay I know
00:39:56
about it though yeah so but the overall
00:39:59
the basic premise of the movie is a guy
00:40:01
in a wheelchair looking out his back
00:40:03
window and he can see all of his
00:40:04
neighbors and he starts to uncover this
00:40:08
like murder plot and he he sees this
00:40:10
glimpse into everyone's life through the
00:40:12
rear window right um the movie is very
00:40:15
simple but like to watch it in a movie
00:40:17
theater was so magical right it was just
00:40:19
like we were there with other people who
00:40:22
were passionate about this movie who it
00:40:24
it felt very much like oh like none of
00:40:27
us everyone knows what's going to happen
00:40:28
to this movie but because we've all seen
00:40:30
it before but there was just some magic
00:40:32
about we're all here together it was
00:40:33
like watching it again for the first
00:40:35
time so exactly go to the movies people
00:40:37
just do it just take yourself take
00:40:40
yourself out on a date whether it's with
00:40:42
somebody or not I like going myself me
00:40:44
too get yourself a popcorn go do it okay
00:40:49
I want to Pivot you talked about making
00:40:51
commercials so I'm interested in that as
00:40:54
well because
00:40:57
now like you said you're starting to
00:40:59
direct them you're starting to kind of
00:41:00
be the head honcho on these guys what
00:41:04
what are you looking at when it comes to
00:41:05
a commercial of like the storytelling
00:41:08
aspect I mean obviously directing is
00:41:10
different than
00:41:12
writing but it can overlap a little bit
00:41:16
but you know what are you looking for
00:41:17
when you either pitch one of these or
00:41:20
you get pitched a commercial to direct
00:41:22
or something like that like is there
00:41:23
something you're looking forward to a
00:41:26
story or a genre that you're like okay I
00:41:27
want to I want to learn how to tell this
00:41:29
story I want to tell this particular
00:41:31
thing so for I work on a lot of
00:41:34
commercials just to pay the bills but
00:41:36
when I am able to write and direct them
00:41:39
I try to make mine look like a short
00:41:43
film okay um I try to tell ones that
00:41:47
tell a story like a drama or a comedy
00:41:51
ones that revolve around a character or
00:41:53
an event or a collective of people on a
00:41:56
similar mission I tell a beginning
00:41:59
middle and end even if it's only 30
00:42:01
seconds those are kind of the one those
00:42:03
those are the stories that I do best
00:42:06
directing those are the ones that if I'm
00:42:09
going to work in commercial that's what
00:42:10
I want to be doing otherwise I've worked
00:42:12
on a bunch of
00:42:14
random stuff like dude wipes um that was
00:42:18
an interesting
00:42:19
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00:42:21
one I have a friend who he I went to
00:42:25
college with and he was a part of the
00:42:27
like Old Spice team that has made some
00:42:29
of the Old Spice commercials and I was
00:42:33
always just like what are these they're
00:42:36
really cool they're creative like they
00:42:37
keep they stick in your brain um but
00:42:41
yeah sometimes you're just like what is
00:42:42
this like you know and then everyone's
00:42:45
also seen that that commercial of like
00:42:47
come on down to whatever and it's like
00:42:50
what is this what what are we selling
00:42:52
right um but yeah uh when I was reading
00:42:57
through your LinkedIn and stuff and kind
00:43:00
of prepping and I was thinking about
00:43:01
like commercials I don't know if you're
00:43:03
familiar with like Rett and Link they're
00:43:05
the good mythical morning guys um but
00:43:08
years and years ago they used to also
00:43:10
make commercials and they would put a
00:43:12
comedy spin on them there is a Taxidermy
00:43:16
um uh place in ohigh California um and
00:43:20
the guy who runs it goes by Chuck Testa
00:43:22
and if you've never seen that commercial
00:43:24
I highly recommend anybody just like go
00:43:26
on YouTube look up like Chuck Tesa it's
00:43:29
so funny it's it's like a poorly made
00:43:33
commercial like that's what that's kind
00:43:34
of what their bre and B was like they
00:43:35
just make these kind of like awful
00:43:36
commercials but they were like hilarious
00:43:38
right they told some kind of story yeah
00:43:40
um but this guy was such a character and
00:43:43
uh I ran into him one day at a coffee
00:43:45
shop and I was like you're Chuck Testa
00:43:48
like it just stuck with um this kind of
00:43:51
cultural day it's just really funny
00:43:53
anyway but uh I know you make better
00:43:55
commercials than that I watched a couple
00:43:57
last night I was like these are way
00:43:58
better than that but that's where my
00:44:00
brain instantly went was like these
00:44:01
really and maybe it's because also going
00:44:05
back to like The Homeschool days and the
00:44:07
the class the video production class you
00:44:10
guys did a great job but also looking
00:44:12
back at that stuff do you cringe at all
00:44:15
are you like oh yeah what I have a
00:44:18
little thumb drive that I keep in a safe
00:44:22
and I don't want people see it but it
00:44:24
has all the music videos that I made in
00:44:27
fifth sixth and seventh grade yeah
00:44:30
horrible but I go back every once in a
00:44:32
while like from every like down in the
00:44:34
pits of like ah not progressing as an
00:44:37
artist where I go I remember down in the
00:44:38
pits I put that in and I look at them
00:44:41
and I'm like wow just to see like little
00:44:44
Kira just being like just enjoying the
00:44:47
process not caring what the result was
00:44:50
just reminds me that like okay it may
00:44:53
not have turned out good but there was
00:44:55
more joy made in that than there was in
00:44:57
the like 500 million project or whatever
00:45:01
yeah and it's just a good reminder and
00:45:02
also just being like okay I'm also I'm
00:45:05
I'm not there anymore I'm over here now
00:45:07
so it's like there's been progress made
00:45:09
yeah it's just encouraging yeah I mean I
00:45:13
work with a lot of YouTubers there's
00:45:15
this kind of theory in the YouTube world
00:45:17
right now that if if every video you
00:45:19
make is just 1% better just 1%
00:45:23
better you make a 100 videos you're 100%
00:45:26
better right like it it that's all it
00:45:29
takes and that's a lot of videos that's
00:45:30
a lot of time it's a 10 there's the
00:45:32
other the other um a lot of people talk
00:45:34
about like the 10,000 hours this is kind
00:45:36
of a musician thing but it's it's been
00:45:38
co-opted by everybody else but you know
00:45:41
if you spent 10,000 hours playing guitar
00:45:43
you'll be a master at it th hours
00:45:46
writing movies filming them directing
00:45:49
them whatever you will be a master at it
00:45:51
right so um I don't know if you knew
00:45:54
this I talked about this on my episode
00:45:56
with carye France but Carrie and I made
00:45:57
a movie together kind of around the same
00:45:59
time that the group
00:46:00
Solutions stuff was happening my mom
00:46:02
gave us extra credit in a class we made
00:46:05
a full length
00:46:06
movie I
00:46:08
doubt many people not I know for a fact
00:46:11
many people have not seen it it's about
00:46:13
50 people who showed up um I will not be
00:46:16
sending it to
00:46:18
you it's awful um it's awful uh maybe
00:46:22
I'll try to find a clip of it or
00:46:23
something and send it put it out there
00:46:25
it'll it'll end up on the internet at
00:46:26
some point
00:46:27
um I'm trying to protect other people
00:46:29
who are in it um who also know that it
00:46:31
was cringy
00:46:33
um but but you know hey sometimes we got
00:46:36
to put it out there but there was so
00:46:38
much there's so much fun that went into
00:46:40
making that um and I even though I was
00:46:43
never a part of like your video
00:46:45
production Club I remember watching and
00:46:47
seeing you guys like have so much fun
00:46:49
making it and it just looked it just
00:46:52
looks so cool and I'm jealous I going
00:46:55
back I would have been like Mom put me
00:46:57
in I want I want in um to this group of
00:47:00
people if people are interested in
00:47:02
commercials or film making or something
00:47:04
like that and you maybe don't know what
00:47:06
you're doing maybe reach out to Kira
00:47:08
maybe she can point you in the right
00:47:09
direction or maybe she is the right
00:47:11
direction happy to help I love teaching
00:47:14
people good good this has been awesome
00:47:18
are there any memories stories cringy
00:47:21
moments that have kind of popped up to
00:47:22
memory that you're like okay we haven't
00:47:24
talked about this yet just it's just
00:47:27
been especially today just preparing for
00:47:30
this I I've had just like had to like
00:47:33
unlock the little memory box in the back
00:47:35
of my head um because I started blocking
00:47:39
most of it out I think yeah um I was
00:47:42
bullied a lot even though which is
00:47:44
something people are shocked by when I
00:47:46
say because they're like well you're
00:47:47
were homeschooled well yeah
00:47:49
but I was never the cool kid and that
00:47:52
was always really hard um so I blocked
00:47:54
out most of my memories but the memor I
00:47:57
do have that were really good usually
00:47:58
were revolved around like Mile High
00:48:02
Pine um that was one of the
00:48:06
coolest Community volunteering
00:48:08
experiences I've ever done and I've done
00:48:11
a lot of different volunteering things
00:48:13
but that one was like you could just got
00:48:16
to go help this camp in the mountains
00:48:20
just like clean up and get ready for
00:48:22
their summer camp or prepare them for
00:48:24
winter I forget exactly what it was but
00:48:27
we did both but yeah yeah and there was
00:48:31
just really good community and we would
00:48:32
like have the evenings to just play
00:48:35
games and this big they called it the
00:48:38
ark it was this big giant building where
00:48:41
you had like basketball courts indoor
00:48:43
basketball courts and you had like fball
00:48:45
on that jazz and we also would like sing
00:48:47
worship songs around the fire which was
00:48:49
always really cool under the stars but
00:48:51
that's where like I start started to
00:48:54
like I got to meet my best friend there
00:48:57
we Emily and
00:48:59
I
00:49:01
were school friends before that but
00:49:04
that's where we became like really good
00:49:06
friends yeah and friendship has always
00:49:08
been something that's really important
00:49:11
to me um because I grew up in Filmore
00:49:14
California and my dad didn't ever let us
00:49:17
have any friends over when he was home
00:49:20
and that usually was like a small window
00:49:23
between after school hours before he got
00:49:25
home so it was very lonely out there and
00:49:29
it was hard cuz not a lot of people in
00:49:33
the more Coastal side of California
00:49:36
wanted to drive their kids 50 minutes to
00:49:39
go have a play date yeah or vice
00:49:42
versa but gas was expensive so it was
00:49:45
hard for us to go to the other side too
00:49:50
absolutely I think that's important I
00:49:52
think that's
00:49:53
something that not a lot of us have like
00:49:57
chatted 100% about because it's like I
00:50:01
got asked this I got I got an email from
00:50:04
uh a viewer on YouTube and they were
00:50:06
asking about bullying and I was I was
00:50:10
like I don't remember they being
00:50:13
bullying but I know that it happened
00:50:15
because now in chatting with people I
00:50:17
realize that it did and um
00:50:21
and on behalf of someone who I I know
00:50:24
that I've bullied people I want to say
00:50:26
I'm sorry
00:50:27
that that happened to you that's like
00:50:28
awful you know um and nobody deserves
00:50:31
that um and you
00:50:35
know so I just wanted to say that does
00:50:38
happen in The Homeschool community and
00:50:40
there are ways to be on the look out for
00:50:43
it and I've said it before on the show
00:50:45
I'll say it again if you see something
00:50:46
say something um that goes for all types
00:50:49
of different things but but bullying
00:50:51
especially because bullying just it n it
00:50:54
sucks and but I'm glad that
00:50:57
you still have friends from the h school
00:50:59
days
00:51:01
um Emily is awesome uh Emily has been on
00:51:04
the show before um go listen to her
00:51:06
episode as well we chat
00:51:09
about our homeschool days as well her
00:51:12
homeschool days and um yeah I'm glad
00:51:16
that I'm glad that you guys are still
00:51:18
friends you know me too yeah yeah and
00:51:22
yeah to your point friendship is
00:51:23
important and I think that for parents
00:51:27
who are looking to homeschool their kids
00:51:29
right knowing where you live and the
00:51:32
people that are around you and and you
00:51:35
know one of the big myths about
00:51:37
homeschooling is like well homeschool
00:51:39
kids are sheltered and they're protected
00:51:41
and they're uh unsocialized unsocialized
00:51:43
that's what I'm looking for
00:51:46
and it's true and not true it can be
00:51:49
true right like you were isolated and
00:51:50
Filmore
00:51:52
but they're so and I don't want to say
00:51:56
your parents made a mistake and being
00:51:57
like oh we're going to homeschool our
00:51:58
kids cuz that's not true at all but
00:52:01
maybe there was other homeschool
00:52:03
families within Filmore that they maybe
00:52:05
could have done a better job being like
00:52:07
okay hey there's other kids here in
00:52:08
Filmore um that we can we can be with
00:52:12
and also to all those homeschool
00:52:13
families and the rest I get why you
00:52:15
didn't want to drive to Filmore it's a
00:52:16
ways out there it is way out there
00:52:19
but but yeah I don't want that to go
00:52:22
though I don't want to go that I um
00:52:27
if you have an extrovert kid they're
00:52:29
gonna hang out with people that's what I
00:52:31
did I was an extrovert being raised to
00:52:32
be an introvert um yeah and I was the
00:52:35
kid I would go door too in my
00:52:38
neighborhood be like knock knock knock
00:52:40
the parent would open the door like
00:52:42
who's this scrawny little child I'd be
00:52:44
like can so and so come out and play and
00:52:46
then they'd be like my kid playing
00:52:49
outside I'll ask but I don't think
00:52:52
that's GNA happen and then after like
00:52:54
repetitive
00:52:57
pestering they would come outside and
00:52:59
then before I knew it I had like the
00:53:01
whole
00:53:03
neighborhood doing like dance
00:53:06
competitions and talent shows and
00:53:09
creating tag version eight like we were
00:53:13
super creative and like it just if you
00:53:15
have an extrovert kid let them be an
00:53:17
extrovert and make that was that made it
00:53:21
living in Filmore really awesome because
00:53:23
I made a lot of cool friends with people
00:53:25
who didn't they grew up they were in
00:53:27
public or private school and weren't
00:53:29
allowed to go play outside it was like
00:53:31
you go to school and you do homework you
00:53:32
eat dinner and you go to bed and then I
00:53:34
would jump in and be like can they play
00:53:36
outside for an hour and then the parents
00:53:39
would be like well they have homework
00:53:42
but an hour an hour is fine that's fine
00:53:44
yeah and then before I knew it we would
00:53:46
be up till like 10 p.m. and our parents
00:53:48
would be like I don't know they need to
00:53:50
go to bed but they're having so much fun
00:53:52
and they're outside it's kind of a
00:53:54
win-win look at that Winn K Kira out
00:53:57
here doing the Lord's work going door to
00:54:01
door I was they probably feared you as
00:54:04
much as you know we we fear when the
00:54:06
Jehovah's Witnesses come knocking
00:54:07
through the neighborhood yeah they saw
00:54:10
they saw you coming and they were like
00:54:11
oh
00:54:12
no the parents eventually got me they
00:54:16
would just be like they would just call
00:54:18
their kids name as soon as they saw me
00:54:19
outside and they would send them out
00:54:21
just go yeah that's fun though that's
00:54:25
fun it's fun to kind of grow up in a
00:54:27
area too where you've got kids like in
00:54:29
the neighborhood that do stuff
00:54:32
and you know just be kids and be stupid
00:54:35
and you know make cringy stuff like you
00:54:37
said you have a whole backlog catalog of
00:54:41
all you know the memories of doing that
00:54:43
kind of stuff and that's awesome so yeah
00:54:46
and like you said I love that you go
00:54:48
back and review it right when you feel
00:54:50
down and you're like no like but that's
00:54:53
awesome so this has been awesome I'm
00:54:56
glad we I'm glad you that and um yeah
00:55:00
and and to the audience if you have a
00:55:02
story you want to share like please
00:55:04
reach out um it's Instagram on Instagram
00:55:07
at exhs club or you can email me exhs
00:55:11
00:55:12
and you know and that's how we get
00:55:14
reconnected like this and I'll say this
00:55:17
too if you see someone on the show that
00:55:19
you're like oh my God I remember this
00:55:21
person text them write them a message
00:55:24
say hi say what's up you know if it puts
00:55:26
somebody in your brain to talk to them
00:55:28
that's the Universe telling you to to
00:55:30
talk to them okay just send them a
00:55:32
message um they're not too busy they're
00:55:35
not too stressed they're not you know if
00:55:37
they ignore it they ignore it but like
00:55:39
just trust me trust me on this one just
00:55:41
do it put it out in the universe okay
00:55:43
the universe is telling you to do
00:55:44
something do it that being said Thank
00:55:47
you again Kira for coming on this has
00:55:49
been wonderful thanks for having me and
00:55:51
uh yeah and we're going to stay much
00:55:53
better connected and become better
00:55:55
friends in these coming years I see it I
00:55:57
see it happening please do
00:55:59
so uh yeah for the rest of you this has
00:56:01
been the X homeschoolers Club we'll be
00:56:03
back next week remember comment like
00:56:05
subscribe do all of the normal things um
00:56:07
I don't want to beg you to do it but
00:56:09
please do it helps grow the show and uh
00:56:12
yeah reach out to your friends if you
00:56:13
enjoyed this maybe share this with a
00:56:15
friend who hasn't watched the show um
00:56:18
and uh yeah until next week peace out
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