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Jingle Bells jingle all the way Janelle was a happy little girl she loves making gifts for her friends
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she was a very giving person Janelle as she was growing up was just really coming into her own
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we were very proud of her my sister and I were three and a half years apart and had a good sibling
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rivalry going on I was 16 and she was 12. a few days before Christmas in 1984 Janelle Matthews all of a sudden
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vanished Without a Trace there was no evidence in the home there was no DNA there was no latent prints it
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is most likely the largest case that I will be a part of in my career as a police officer
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and not knowing what happened haunted us all over the years this case that horrified this entire
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Community for decades for 35 years there really was no suspect people held their children closer the
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doors were being locked curfew was being enforced there's so many years in between the incident and I'm actually
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finding the corpse the perpetrator was very confident perhaps even complacent about getting away with it he didn't
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know us he didn't know Janelle was it just Janelle happen to be at the wrong
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place at the wrong time I can't forgive the person who shot my daughter right in the head
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[Music] first school picture in her last school picture um I like those pictures
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yeah I love this picture right here the two Jennifer was more like a dad Janelle was more like me more for a home
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maker Janelle looks a lot like Gloria and nobody ever would have guessed without being told basically that she
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was adopted I think Gloria and I never felt like it was different we felt blessed that we had Janelle we
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felt blessed that we had Jennifer and we never kept the fact that Janelle was adopted from her
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she was always in our opinion she was a chosen child and that's how we approached it
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didn't even probably know what the word adopted didn't know any different I don't have
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biological siblings so she was my sister [Music] a lot of things we did were church
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activities church was life if the church doors were open my family was there we were involved in choir we were
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involved in plays Janelle loved to sing and dance and act so that was a very Central Point in our family's lives
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December 20th 1984 just was a normal day for me I would get up go to school hang out
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with my friends even a little bit after school and then came home it was the last day before Christmas
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break Janelle was very excited to give her gifts to her friends the next day on Friday
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my mom was flying to California to surprise her parents for Christmas my grandfather wasn't doing well physically
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so she just wanted to spend time with them before I left the four of us went down
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to the family room and we had apple cider and Janelle was saying well how about our Christmas and I said well I'm
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gonna come back on the 26th and we'll spend our Christmas uh then you know we're just going to postpone it for one
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day [Music] foreign people started to leave the house Gloria got picked up to take her to Denver for
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her flight I took Janelle to the school and saw her get on the bus to go to the Christmas concert with the choir that
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she was in with her friends I liked singing let you know we attended church together
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she was my first friend that I met in Greeley we'd either go to each other's
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house and play or or do something together before school we had the Honor Choir together
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this is our concert from December 20th 1984. there's Janelle front Rowan Center
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singing loudly she loved Christmas carols it wasn't a concert where parents came
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and sat down to listen it was just something that was filmed on the local cable television show so there was no
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congregation to listen to my dad just dropped her off at her school to ride the bus and then she was going to get a
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ride home so that he could come to my basketball game [Music] sometimes I think about well would have
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happened if I had gone to the concert and not the basketball game but you can contemplate on that and uh
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you can't relive it Janelle needed a ride after the concert [Music] saw my dad pull in and said hey I'm
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gonna go with Deanna and her dad and she jumped in the truck with us and we took
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her home so we dropped Janelle off she turned around and waved goodbye see you tomorrow I said see you tomorrow
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walked inside flickered the light on and off and that was our signal to let us know that she made it in
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and my dad and I continued home after the basketball game I came home and it was approximately 9 30.
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when I walked in I said hi Janelle and I didn't get a response and I thought well
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maybe she was upstairs and didn't hear me so I went downstairs and came back and
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noticed that the quartz heater was on next to the chair that she probably had been sitting in and the TV was on so I
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went upstairs thinking she was up there and I looked in her room and and there was no Janelle
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when I came home my dad was concerned as soon as I stepped inside the house and just asked me if I knew where Janelle
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was and right away I knew that something wasn't right because we wouldn't have
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gone anywhere at that time at night so for her not to be in the house was just something to be concerned about from the
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get-go my dad had received a call later on that evening I was asleep at the time so my
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dad had woken me up asking me if I knew where Janelle might be in the neighborhood I don't know that I
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realized the full magnitude of what was happening [Music] I thought for sure if she's not here
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she's somewhere right I I really didn't quite understand it being a 12 year old
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I sat and was supportive of my dad while he called a few other of Janelle's friends just to see if she perhaps was
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there and then when he called our pastor and he said to call the police and the police arrived shortly after my
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dad had called them the initial officer arrived on the scene at about 11 15 that evening
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it's a really surreal feeling police in my room putting fingerprint dust on the
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walls and you know that's just something that was never in my wheelhouse I didn't
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know anything about it so it was all really really strange investigators didn't find much as far as
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physical evidence there was no sign of a physical disturbance there was very little evidence that was collected
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within the house DNA was not a thing in 1984. fingerprints were dusted but none were found
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she essentially left everything as it was the only evidence were shoe Impressions that were found around the
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exterior windows of the garden level of the residence there was snow on the outside and there
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were footprints in the front yard and in the backyard like somebody had been looking in the windows
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what was concerning was most of those shoe prints had been raked out somebody took a rake in the snow and raked out
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all of the Footwear impressions in the backyard fear set in at that time just thinking
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that maybe in the morning there would be some answers or she would come home in the middle of the night
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[Music] most the time when somebody doesn't show up at a certain time maybe they ran away
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because a lot of times runaways leave a note well there was no note from Janelle
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so when I finally arrived in Los Angeles it was almost one o'clock in the morning
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and I called Jim Anthony and I said hi honey I'm here that was well into the night and she
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still wasn't home and that was a call that I was dreading I knew right away my stomach didn't feel
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good and Jim says um Chloe I don't know how to tell you this but we don't know where Janelle is
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and that's that's when the nightmare started I think not only did Gloria feel sick
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but she wanted to come home I got home the next night and I remember crying on the airplane
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the whole time somebody came into our house and violated us it had to be a stranger I had to be a
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person who did not know us Arden no Janelle I tried really hard to be brave but we didn't know anything about
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Janelle from that night on [Music] 1984 Greeley was roughly 55 000 people the police department itself was very
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small not a lot of experience with something like this stranger abductions are exceedingly rare
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in law enforcement so being able to make that determination that is a true missing person case and
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not a runaway juvenile case is of utmost importance [Music] when I arrived at school the next
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morning there was counselors taking me out of class and I remember that's probably when I
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realized that Janelle something happened to Janelle and she was missing I was taken to school in a
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police car which is highly abnormal just life was not as we knew it foreign if she were a runaway which we didn't
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think that she was [Music] you know she would come back because she wouldn't miss Christmas
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[Music] early on in the case the attention for the most part was given to the family
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that perhaps it was somebody within the family who was responsible for the disappearance
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given the evidence that we had we quickly were able to eliminate any and all suspects including the family
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for a few days there was a lot of activity there was helicopters canvassing the neighborhood in the area
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I remember just watching them and just processing everything that they were doing to find Janelle and not knowing
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how long this was going to last [Music] that Christmas I set the table for four rather than for three
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for a long time I included her in everything [Music] but she wasn't there [Music]
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so many memories we have forgotten but what I remember about Janelle was her being happy and being feisty at the same
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time and loving when you have a missing child you want to get her face in front of as many
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people as possible we got the national exposure that we were trying to get later on President Reagan came out and
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was talking about missing children and mentioned our daughter Janelle jonelle Matthews of Greeley Colorado
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who would have celebrated a happy 13th birthday with her family just last month but five days before Christmas
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jonelle disappeared from her home you learn pretty quickly that the longer that a missing child is missing the
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greater chance that something evil has happened because there was so little Clues
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involved after the first six seven months we didn't have a whole lot of contact with the Greeley Police
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Department because there wasn't a whole lot to report on within about a year I would say the case
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would go cold definitely by the end of 1985 there just weren't any more leaves
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[Music] Wayne was a big thing but not having a round was even bigger we never forgot Janelle never forgot her
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birthday and Christmas those were difficult days but you can't let it consume you
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so that you start shutting down and so life became what you and I might consider more normal just with the years
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starting to go by [Music] I got married a few years later I had my son so my life was progressing
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typically but always in the back of our minds was are we ever going to know what
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happened to Janelle this case was getting leads called in from all across the country people would
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say they spotted Janelle or they had a lead while initially promising they're
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sort of always tracking down these tips and didn't really get to see the evidence that was there and really work
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it [Music] as we got close to the 10th anniversary of her abduction we had a memorial
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service at our church that was the turning point for all of us to lose hope that she's probably not out
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there [Music] it wasn't obviously complete closure because we didn't know what happened to
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her it was just kind of like relief relief of that burden that had been on our shoulders for 10 years
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[Music] we never bought for doing this to us we never did but I did question God why we never
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found her I couldn't accept that I couldn't accept the fact that we would
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never find her I got involved in the case in 2013 I grew up in this community and to be able
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to work on it firsthand and be a sign that was an honor for me to try to solve it for the family
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the size of the case is enormous that's why I enlisted detective Prill to come
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and organize it with me so I had to track down all the police reports which were strewn everywhere and
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so I would spend somewhere around 14 to 16 months just bringing this very old case in the the 21st century and so my
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Hope was that perhaps the suspect comes to light this case got Nationwide attention and
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so your common Kooks came out of the woodwork they're reporting all these strange ideas that they had about where
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Janelle might be the one thing that stuck out from the onset was a guy named Steve Panky he had reached out to the
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lead detective by phone January 19th of 1985 almost a month after Janelle disappeared
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Steve Pankey was another attendee of the church that the Matthews family went to
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he had been excommunicated due to assaults that he was alleged to have committed another parishioner he
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purportedly hated the church and hated Authority despite the fact that he himself ran for Sheriff and governor on
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multiple occasions this is Steve Pankey as Idaho's next Governor I intend to keep Simple issues
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simple and bring together competent people to resolve Idaho's complex issues
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a picture of Panky during his run for governor in the state of Idaho failed miserably
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but he put himself out there Steve Pankey inserted himself into the case asked if the detective would share
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information about the case to him to see if it matched up with information that he might have with the case
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he added there was definitive evidence that Janelle had been kidnapped and was likely dead
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so he's the first human on the planet to claim Janelle's dead in fact the the
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kidnapping itself we don't know she could have run away the guy just came in and talked bad
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about the church and try and point the blame to that church at the time the detective decided that
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he was a fringe element and didn't deserve any more attention they didn't really take it that to heart
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because they never had any reason to there was nothing that linked him to Janelle Matthews they had no reason to
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think he was involved maybe he was a bit nosy in their minds but they didn't
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really consider him a suspect I turned it all over the entire case it's all done now Rob and here's your
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follow-up list and it was literally hundreds of things he had to do and I was 2015.
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I remember what I wrote in my follow-up list for Robert was Panky comma what's up with this guy
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as time really went on decade after decade that's when it kind of starts becoming a
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question of is she still alive night time was hard for my mom I think you can kind of go to some dark
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places of what might be happening to your child and we had some air vents and I can just hear her crying through the
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vents in April of 2019 I had my first and only conversation with Steve Pankey regarding
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the general Matthews case Panky was very leery very suspicious of law enforcement's intentions
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pinky when he answered the phone said I need a deal I need my attorney to be involved before I talk to you
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that's not normal I told Robert we need to go to Twin Falls Idaho and have a meeting with Mr
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panky and we started making plans to go out there when the Will County Sheriff's Office
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was notified by an oil company scraping the ground to prepare for this next Pipeline and a skull came out of the
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ground Well County drove out took a look and said that's clearly human I was the on-call detective for the
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Greeley Police Department I received a call saying that the Weld County Sheriff's Department was on a site where
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one of the pieces of heavy machinery lifted up what they thought was a bag of garbage
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and it turned out to be clothing and skeletal remains and there were braces on the teeth of the skull
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General Matthews when she went missing had just had braces put on her teeth the mere fact that it could be Janelle
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Matthews was surreal it was otherworldly a feeling that I have not had before the body was found in this general area
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The Remains were lifted up it was estimated that there were three to four feet of dirt covering her body there was
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no soft tissue the state of the remains were skeleton you could see all of her clothes that
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she wore the night of the recital he called me and said hey no doubt this is Janelle
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these remains were then taken to a forensic pathologist who through DNA analysis identified the remains
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positively as general Matthews [Music] we didn't want anything to get out to
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the media we needed to call the family to advise them of the discovery [Music] July 25th
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never forget that days [Music] I got this phone call from Robert he said Jim we think we found Janelle's remains
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in a shallow grave yeah it just boy it hit and so we go to ourselves we're getting some closure now
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now we know what happened to Janelle I was in total shock it automatically made me think that this was just a
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miracle that they found her and how they found her was just incredible this is 35 years after her disappearance
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even the bones themselves were beginning to decompose the fact that that Earth Mover is just
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barely scraped over the top of her and pulled her skull out that had been just a little higher a
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half a foot deeper no one would have ever seen her his divine intervention that's all it is
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as we were recovering The Remains we were looking for any signs that could tell us how she was killed it was at
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that point that we saw that there was a penetrating wound through the skull they shared with us how she died
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that was brutal because she had been shot in the head then you have to shift to another very
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sad realization that she was murdered but there was also on the flip side some comfort knowing that perhaps she didn't
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suffer long we made the arrangements for Janelle's Memorial celebration that second service it was just a lot of
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overwhelming feelings you see her casket of just that was just holding skeletal remains and how small that was just
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really hit me that she was just a child oh August 15th of 2019 Robert cash and I
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made the nine hour one-way drive to Twin Falls Idaho thank you mailed a letter August of
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2013. to the district attorney's office and we never received the DA's office
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had it amongst other letters we discovered pinky had written Steve panky's name had not been
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mentioned in that investigation since January 1985. he provided them unprovoked with an alibi letter that has
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very detailed information about where exactly he was the day of the murder and disappearance why would anyone remember
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one year ago let alone 29 years ago where they were at on a day that was otherwise meaningless to them
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we knocked on his dorm we introduced ourselves Panky immediately insisted he needed immunity which means I can't be
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prosecuted for anything that I might admit to any crimes I explained to Panky that there is no crime that he can be
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charged for in 2019 that occurred in 1984 except for first degree murder and first degree kidnapping
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he said he understood that and he still asked for immunity so as far as I'm concerned he just confessed to me that
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he murdered Janelle and then he stopped talking turned and he walked away detective Prill did ask about a Steve
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panky all three of us had no clue on who he was talking about we never heard or Steve Banky
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we did not come to that church until summer of 1978 when he was already excused from the congregation
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I know a lot of times I come through as kind of a dead pen candidate and my delivery isn't as good as it should be
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and I apologize for that however I think the substance is there and anyway I really need your prayers God's will be
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done thank you foreign an effort to learn more about Steve Pankey I'd learned that Angela Hicks was his
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ex-wife that they had been divorced for some time so I figured she would be a good person to talk to about him when
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Robert called Angela Angela started her phone call with why I has it taken you so long to call him
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Angela Hicks had had numerous conversations with law enforcement in Idaho an officers said that they had
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collected all the information that she had gathered and then forwarded all the information to the Greeley Police
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Department it was news to me as I had no idea nothing had been sent to the Greeley Police Department as it related
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to what she had been talking about Angela Hicks described conversations with Steve Pankey in the 1990s at that
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time Steve Panky was having conversations with law enforcement in the Idaho area where they were living
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and he said it was about the general Matthews case it was at this point that Angela Hicks
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said that her blood brand called that she immediately started thinking about Steve panky's activities and movements
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and behaviors in and around the disappearance Angela said she knew that Janelle disappeared on December 20th she said on
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the evening of the 21st pinky walked into the house and said we're going to California for Christmas we're leaving
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in the morning and she's completely shocked they drive to Big Bear which is about a
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20-hour drive they arrived and panky's parents are shocked what are you doing here we
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didn't know you were coming in fact we don't even have Christmas gifts because
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we mailed them to you weeks earlier not expecting you to be here they would spend Christmas Eve and
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Christmas Day there and then return home the very next day making the long trip back to Greeley
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on the way back all of a sudden Steve Panky asked her to turn on the radio I think he just had Angela dialing
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through the radio stations for the rest of their trip to find news updates on Janelle's disappearance this is a
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20-hour experience for her [Music] it was then getting into Greeley Steve insists that she drive to a grocery
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store and get all the newspapers that she can that have any information about The Disappearance of General Matthews
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Steve Panky is a man who's generally disinterested in the news yet in this particular case he seems hyper alert
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hyper interested in The Disappearance of Janelle so you have to ask yourself what
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is that about he returned home it was getting late he said go inside unpack the car he didn't
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come inside rather he got his coveralls on and began to dig in the front yard thank you sat out there digging for
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hours on it and finally Angela said two days after they returned she stepped outside to the
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backyard and noticed the car was completely on fire and she said thank you walked up to her
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and said get back in the oven house when the fire burned out pinky hauled it off
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to a salvage yard and by that point panky's my number one saucepan he is the suspect
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detective Prill and I returned to execute his first warrant as Steve panky's residence we collected three
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cell phones a Macbook and an iPad 13 handguns and about 1100 pages of documents from his house and I would
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spend the next 14 months pouring over Steve panky's life he was searching Janelle on the internet
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almost daily way before 2019. and then ultimately when he was exhausted he rounded out his 24 Hours by
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watching BDSM porn images before passing out that says a lot to me he's my guy there's no doubt at that
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point we traveled back out to Idaho and had him arrested for the murder and Abduction of Janelle Matthews
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he taunted law enforcement constantly and then when we knocked at his door and put handcuffs on him he could not
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believe that all of his tauntings had come to an end he would make no statement I think he
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had no time to plan and from that point on we would have no further personal contact with Steve panky
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we just arrested the person that murdered Janelle and now you know at that point I'm realizing the most
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difficult part would be to actually convict banking we didn't even know him we didn't even know his name
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so you could start putting the pieces together but still what's the motive why did he choose Janelle was it just a
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crime of opportunity he's the only one that knows the the why [Music] now I wouldn't say that the years have
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made it easier after 35 years and they found her body you know that's when things became easy
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I didn't cry much because at that time I knew where she was and that was a big
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Comfort to me anyway I was glad that they had somebody but they had to prove that it was Steve
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banke that did it I think we were both pretty excited that we had got to this point
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and just hoping for a positive outcome [Music] we had to wear masks so we didn't see
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him fully so I think there was a little bit of cushion when you're just looking
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at somebody's eyes and because we don't know him there's a little bit of distance as well
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I'll tell you he looked like a Broken Man I was just kind of numb I didn't have a lot of hatred form or
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anything like this because you know he's just another person I wasn't going to let him affect me to
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the extent where I become bitter I wasn't going to be consumed by him when he got on the stand nobody knew
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what was going to come out of his mouth and it was 45 minutes of some really really strange words but when he used
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the phrase about letting his sin find him out which is a Biblical reference I put my hand on my husband's knee and I
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said he's going to confess but that's not the way it came out he will probably never ever say anything
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because he believes he's innocent for Steve kinky not to admit his guilts it's just evil
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this is cruel what he did police didn't have a lot to forensically link to the Killer and they had to go
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more on circumstantial evidence I created a timeline 130 pages long had 5 000 pages of data to back up the
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assertions that I'm making in the timeline we felt very confident it was a strong case quite honestly I think the
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evidence came out even better than we could have ever hoped for there was a lot of evidence that was put
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forward but Steve Pinkey had also had his own reasonable doubt that he was trying to
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use in his defense and it resulted in a hung jury no verdict could be reached they were not unanimous
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it was nine to three in favor of conviction however without all 12 agreeing it was going to result in a
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Deadlock I was really disappointed that it was a hung trial but the foreman and two others said to
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our lawyers you can never proved to me that he was at the premises at the time that you say he is
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so that's why it was a hung jury our team when the word mistrial came did not hesitate to want to fight again so
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when you see your team reacting that way it makes you feel good and feel confident we're doing this again
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trial which began on October 4th 2022 prosecutors came armed with even more evidence against Panky this time they
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had new information as well as reported confession that Panky had made to someone he shared a jail cell with yours
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prior this inmate said you know I became close with hanky in a sense a spiritual
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connection we pray together and there came a point where pinky came to me and said I need to pray for forgiveness and
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the inmate asked forgiveness for what and Pinky looked to the ground and said that's between me and my God and then
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Panky proceeded to pray to God for forgiveness for what he did to Janelle according to this ending
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so in this second trial the jury got to hear about panky's familiarity with the
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Matthews neighborhood that panky's cousin caught Panky on several occasions parked outside of her
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mother's house two blocks from Janelle's school and she would see him watching
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the the kids walking home from school and the jury got to hear about pinky being physically abusive to Angela had
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indicated that a girl had gone missing Angela Hicks is an amazing woman both trials that she came down from
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Idaho to testify she really helped make the case there's no question about it
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she helped connect the dots when the jury announced that they had a verdict and all of us were just freaking
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out I mean I I don't I do not get jittery or nervous or scared very often but it would you know the
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questions are flying back why are they coming back so fast the verdict forms were handed to the
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judge when he read guilty for second-degree kidnapping I absolutely knew then that they would
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find him guilty of murder I felt Overjoyed when the conviction came back I couldn't believe how lucky I was to
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have been a part of this case and to bring the closure that that family so much deserved to have that closure to
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have that verdict it took us two times but it's the best feeling ever ultimately Panky received a 20 years to
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life sentence meaning the earliest that he could be released is 2042 when he'll
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be 91 years old getting a guilty verdict of Steve Panky was the culmination of our Earthly
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Justice for Janelle he's still going to have to appear before God and but it's that's everything that
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could possibly happen uh here on Earth [Music] I don't think justice has ever served
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the day after that verdict came back Janelle was still dead still alive anyone convicted of murder should be
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spending the rest of their days in prison and my hope is Pinky dies while he's in prison
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he is a horrible rotten human being he's a gaslighter he's a manipulator he is
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spiteful and hateful and the most atrocious human being I've ever encountered
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I asked a Christian you're supposed to forgive everybody but I can't I just can't forgive evil
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you know um you know God do I need to forgive him I don't know I don't want to come across judgmental
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because only God knows his heart but I think he has a lot of head knowledge that clearly has not transferred to his
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heart because if it did he would never have pulled that sugar [Music] the motive is one that we have never
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seen there was no clear relationship between Steve Panky and Janelle Matthews what we do know is that his hatred for
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the church was enough for him to take the path that he did which was to abduct Janelle Matthews and ultimately murder
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her had Banky shut his mouth in January 1985 and never said another damn thing about
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Janelle he would have never been identified in this case he would have never been arrested but he is so
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confident in his abilities and his intelligence he was proud of what he pulled off and he knew he could never
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get caught until he got caught despite you know having this tragedy in our life being able to finally have
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Justice for Janelle is just such a gift and such a blessing and I'm just so so
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grateful they found her body 35 years later even though it was a sad thing I'm so
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happy that all this time she was in heaven I think she would have been the kind of
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person that people would notice she would have been a very good mother she would have shared a lot of happy
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moments with Jennifer she would have been somebody that Jennifer and Gloria and I would have
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been proud of [Music] foreign