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months ago, we have a situation out of Wesha, Wisconsin, where police are arriving at a at the home of a family of
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three to conduct a welfare check. And then in a short period of time, the unimaginable takes place and becomes
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reality. After officers enter the home, they discover not one body, but two bodies. And then they find the third
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missing person from the home several hundreds of miles away driving the vehicle of one of the deceased. And that
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individual is Nikita Cassap, stepson of homicide victim Donald Mayor and son of homicide victim Tatiana Cassap. Yeah.
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Only 17 years old. 17 years old. High school student. And from everything we've seen, a very good high school
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student, smart, had great attendance, perfect attendance. In fact, it was his absence that tipped police off that
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something could be wrong. Where we left off yesterday here, Captain, is we have Nikita in custody. in police custody
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after a routine traffic stop for failing to stop at a stop sign, but he is in custody states away. And so he's going
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to be held, we discussed what he's charged with. He's not charged with homicide. He's charged with stolen
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goods, basically theft of the vehicle, theft of a handgun, driving without a license, failing to stop at a stop sign.
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So, he's arrested for charges that are going to be very, very small considering what
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might come once they are able to look through the evidence and start to piece things together. He's going to be held
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for extradition. Now, let's go into a bit of a timeline here because as you heard in part one,
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there's a wealth of information that's coming from paperwork and search warrants and bolos and all the
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information that was being sent out to look for answers and look for these people initially. And then
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that turns into a manhunt or a at least looking for the vehicle that's missing from the home. The vehicle's recovered.
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Nikita is the driver. And this takes us to March 3rd. So on February 28th, just before midnight, he's arrested. Now on
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March 3rd, the Wesha County Sheriff's Office, they obtained a search warrant for Nikita's cell phone. Now, once
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they're reviewing the cell phone, the sheriff's office identified material on that phone related to the quote the
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order of the nine angles end quote. Upon further review of the phone, they also identified usernames for
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Nikita which included Awoken and Accelerationist 14. So, these are handles that they believe Nikita was
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using when communicating with others via this phone. Let's go to the next day here, Captain. March 4th. This is when
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the Wesha County Sheriff's Office executed another search warrant. This one is for Donald Mayor's Volkswagen
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Atlas. This is the vehicle that Nikita was driving at the time of his arrest and the vehicle that was missing from
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the home. During the search of this vehicle, the following items were located in the vehicle. A pride open
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safe, women's jewelry, electronics, which included iPads, cell phones, and laptops. We already mentioned that the
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deedants cell phones were found in the possession of Nikita inside this vehicle. approximately
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$14,000. They also recovered banking documents, hard drives, and external storage
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devices. And this is one that our longtime listeners will know of and be well aware of and may even have them in
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their homes and properties. a Simply Safe home security sensor and a YA I'm sorry, a
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Yi security camera with a micro SD card. Now, just looking at these items here, I think we can
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surmise that these aren't items that Donald Mayor was routinely driving around with in his vehicle.
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These seem to be a case of of items that Nikita probably collected from the home
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and chose to take with him to parts unknown wherever he was attempting to go. Yeah, we have evidence that he took
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their cell phones, that they took their IDs. So, it's reason it's reasonable to believe that he took other items to
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cover up his involvement in the in this double homicide. The items that stand out to me here on this list that we just
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went through is the pride open safe, uh, the expensive jewelry and the $14,000. It it this would be highly
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suggestive that maybe the motive for the double homicide was was the theft of these items, the
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theft of the money, right? taking the safe from the home, probably prying it open within the home, and then then like
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as you said, trying to hide some evidence and take that with him. And along with that, we talk you want to
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talk about evidence. What about the Simply Safe gear that was found in the vehicle? What could those information on
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that Simply Safe gear tell police and detectives? Yeah, if I'm looking at this initially, if I'm if I'm
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Jensen, right, I'm thinking this kid committed this crime, I don't know how much of these items were planned before
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the crime happened. And maybe the crime happened somewhat spontaneously, but then afterwards, he
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he he's probably at the residence. I mean, based off of what your eyeballs are telling you. Well, and but based off
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evidence that we have of him being at the house with these de the deceased victims during this time period, if it
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was a spontaneous killing is then he trying to figure out, well, I'm not going to turn myself in. So, I'm going
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to have to then take items and go somewhere. I got to I can't stay here forever. So, we see that he stays at the
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house for a time period and then obviously goes on the run. Jensen, you always think you have all the answers,
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Jensen. Well, let's go through some more of the information here. So, it's going
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to be a review of these items, right? all of the items that they are finding when conducting these search warrants,
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be it at the home on Nikita's person or in the vehicle that was missing. It's the recovery of these items that are
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going to further your investigation because you're going to be reviewing them, the data, the data on them. Uh,
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specifically his phone and we mentioned laptops and iPads. So upon further review of Nikita's phone, police are
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seeing images and communications that referenced a self-described manifesto regarding the
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assassination of the president of the current president. Also, bomb making materials and terrorist attacks. So when
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I say bomb- making materials, it doesn't appear that they're actual materials for
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building the bombs. However, they are plans. They are uh instructions on how to build bombs and also uh talks about
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terrorist attacks here in the United States. I still don't understand why there's such a if you're into making
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bombs, you're also into manifestos. Yeah, that's true. It's it's um well, it's a creative bunch. Um, the sheriff's
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office review. I'm sure a lot of people are familiar with the Telegram app, a communication
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app. They are reviewing information on the Telegram messages. And these messages play an important role in the
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not what we just discussed, right? Not the assassination of the president or bomb making or terrorist attacks. These
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messages are important because of the time frame, right? We we we are of concern about the entire second half of
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the month of February regarding this home, these three individuals, two which are now deceased and obvious homicides.
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So these telegram messages were in Russian and I don't speak fluent Russian so or read it. So thankfully they have
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translated some of this for us. Well, he he was communicating with multiple people. It's just one of the individuals
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was a Russianspeaking individual. Correct. And so upon translation, the And look, we're not going to have all
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the information here. As said, this is an active ongoing investigation, especially at this point in our
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timeline. But even still to this day, uh, we have there's going to be a lot that that
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may come out with this in the near in the very near future. So, one of the replies to Nikita is reply to them
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all and say you got sick. Right. He's probably talking about replying to the school, replying to anybody that's
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messaging his parents on their cell phones. And we do know from Donald's coworker or boss that he told
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police, "Yeah, I've been in regular communication with him, but it's all been via text." And Donald told me he
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was too sick to talk on the phone, too sick to come in to work. uh Donald's phone communicating with
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Donald's sister saying that he was pretty sick and was going to stay off of social media for a while. This is almost
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seems instructive or he's sought out advice on how to handle the current situation that he's in alone home with
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the two people he killed. Another reply that he gets via Telegram message says, "Take
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or drag different reports. Take them to the basement, drag them to the basement. This to me is obvious that
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it's indicative of suggestions of what to do with the bodies or attempt to conceal the bodies. Obviously, this case
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has been talked about more because of this plot of possible possibly attempt to assassinate a president.
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um and then bomb making. But you have two homicides here. Your your goal now for law enforcement is not to worry
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about this secondary situation. We need to collect as much evidence that we can. So what I think
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you're laying out is this is evidence that he obviously knew there were victims in the house. He's asking
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somebody what to do with them and also ask asking how he can act in certain ways. And I'm I'm sure you're going to
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um enlighten us with with other incriminating statements towards Nikita. Yeah. And some of this is going to be
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Look, I review this and I don't know what kind of defense this guy can have. I it's I mean so and we still don't know
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what's on the surveillance. I mean the surveillance might show us him killing his parents. Well that that is it. And I
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and I don't for a second captain believe that they're giving us all the information. That would be irresponsible
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of them. This is this thing needs Jensen wouldn't allow it. Jensen he's he's um he always does the due diligence. He
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follows through. Goes above and beyond. makes no mistakes intelligence. Yeah. Makes no mistakes. All right. So, you
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referenced the security camera footage, the Simply Safe. Yeah. Uh security footage. So, when they when the
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sheriff's office reviews that that micro SD card and the security camera, here's what they're seeing.
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Okay, this is from the time period of February 16th to the 22nd. So about six days here they can see on portions of
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this footage where it's Nikita. So one of these cameras was in that office, that home office. Oh, there
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you go. On the first floor, which is a ideal place to place one. So they see footage of Nikita in the office. Near
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him is a mound of blankets and pillows. Now, we know that Donald's body was recovered in that home office covered
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with blankets, clothing, and such. And they can see on the footage of him in the room, he's rummaging through the
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desk. He's going through drawers. He's he's very clearly looking for stuff. He's removing stuff out of the room. And
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he's also lighting candles and incense. Yeah, cuz dead bodies smell. Put that on
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a t-shirt. And so I mean this is I mean I've heard of incriminating evidence. This is beyond. So on as we
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said on March 3rd is when they start executing some of these additional search warrants. That's followed up
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again on March 4th. It's not until March 5th that the medical examiners confirm the identities of the two victims that
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were found. And the this is when they confirm for the public that the the two deceased individuals that were located
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inside the home were in fact as suspected Donald Mayor, age 51, and his wife Tatiana Cassap, aged 35, who is
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also the mother of the prime suspect, Nikita. Both had been shot. Uh Tatiana was shot in the neck, upper torso,
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abdomen, and right wrist. and Donald Mayor was shot in the head. And the early reports just simply said sometime
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earlier. This is when we start to hear from Donald's mother, Judith Mayor. Remember, she is one of the individuals
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that was calling in and requesting the welfare check that initially kicked this whole thing off. Yeah. Do we know what's
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going on with his Cuz obviously Donald is his stepfather, but what's going on with his real father? that is lacking
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from the information that that I was able to get my hands on. Yeah, cuz I'm looking at reports from
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uh People magazine, AP News, uh who else am I looking at? I mean, a bunch of people have covered this case obviously,
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and there is no uh Fox News, no mention of his biological father. Well, I I think obviously that might just be
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to protect him. could be. But what I believe is I don't it doesn't appear that the father had
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um was involved right with Nikita at the time of the murders or it actually looks
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to me and I suspect this is I I don't have any proof of this but my suspicion is that the father may have been either
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totally absent or at least absent for several years because so the two had been married right Tatiana and Donald
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had been married for 9 years. So, this wasn't a new living situation for anyone. And the two got married after
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they met online. This is when Tatiana was living in a whole another country called Muh
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Malddova. So, this is out between I believe it's between um So, so the biological father could be in a whole
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another country. Yes. A whole other country. And Mulova I believe is yeah it's between Romania and Ukraine. So
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it's a distant country and they had been married for 9 years. Now this is where the information
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from Donald's mother fills us in on some of of the lifestyle or at least some of
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the dynamics of the family. She says to this is to NBC News. She says, quote, "Donald children, so when he married, he
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enjoyed having a son, and they did fatherson stuff. They went to all kinds of places, to the beach, to ball games,
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all that kind of stuff," she says. Judith Mayor said that she was impressed with how quickly Nikita picked up
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English from scratch and that she couldn't recall any tensions between him and her son. The teenager had perfect
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attendance before he failed to show up for class for two weeks, prompting the welfare check request from school
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officials. According to the criminal complaint, we go on to hear more from Donald's mother. She says, quote, "He
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did very well in school." Meaning Nikita, he got good grades. He was quiet. He was polite. Teachers never
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mentioned that there was anything wrong. Judith Mayor said her son had the gun for protection, but she was unaware of
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any possible threats that that he meaning he didn't buy it for a specific reason other than just for basic home
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protection. She goes on to say that her son Donald and his stepson Nikita both had green thumbs and enjoyed working
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outside in the yard together. Donald, she says, loved flowers. There was always a lot of
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planting of flowers and trees at the property. Whenever he went out to do anything, he always asked Nikita to come
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with him and they would do the work together. So, with that, and I know this is just one person's perception of
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what's going on or what may have been going on in the house or or what she was aware of, but what I what I'm seeing
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here, and this is all surface material, so some of it could fall apart the more you dig. I don't know. But what I think
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we're seeing here, Captain, is these homicides very likely had little to do with any type of hatred or rage that
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Nikita may have had for his mother or and or stepfather, then it may have more to do
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with the stuff that we just went through that the police are saying that we we discovered this in some kind of
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self-described manifesto with the goal of assassinating the president, making bombs, and and conducting
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terrorist attacks. Yeah. But these these dark places on the web and obviously you
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as a parent, even though he's 17, this is where it becomes tricky and and I'm going to say some stuff and I I
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hope people don't take it as victim blaming, but even a 17-year-old needs to be monitored on their internet
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activity and who they're communicating, what apps they're using. And look, I think a lot of us are guilty
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of this in this day and age where everything's so fast. Everything's moving at a fast pace. Almost every time
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I talk to somebody, hey, how's life? Oh, busy. Very busy. I think busy is a disgusting word. Like I've never heard
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anybody go, "Man, I'm busy." And it's good. It's good busy. No, it's mostly like, "No, we're busy. We're losing
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track of the day." And I think a lot of these look, it's a giant house with three individuals and they probably were
00:25:09
trying to give him some space. He's a good student. He's a good kid. Oh, he's up in his room. He's playing on his
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computer. No big deal. But you do have to monitor these things because especially at who who knows when
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he started these communications with individuals and what you know YouTube video he listened to or or watched, what
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podcast he listened to, what what was happening in this kid's uh private almost secretive life. And
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like you said, maybe all this uh the homicides are because they discovered this secret world that he
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had. But I but I think some of this I think it's very easy for parents to have, you know, jobs and
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responsibilities and all these things and and as the kid gets older that they're a little neglectful on what's
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happening in their child's world. Yeah. And that of course gets more difficult when they reach these teenage years. I
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mean, he's 17, almost an adult. And it's anybody that's that's lived with teenagers, raised teenagers, had them
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themselves, know that they they get very closed off from you. Most of them, I wouldn't say all of them, but it but my
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experience and from what I've observe observed with other people's families. And look, me myself too, when I was a
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teenager, was my favorite thing to talk to my mom or dad when I was 17? Not really. Looking back, I wish it would
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have been, but um you know, it it's Yes. And it's difficult. And two, take it a step further. Yes, he's
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been here for 9 years, but he does come from a part of the world that is experiencing a lot of conflict, right,
00:27:02
in very recent times. and and and and how much communication is he having with friends or family back home? And is that
00:27:10
and is that shaping any of his thoughts and beliefs? Well, and the the FBI actually went to their home uh on a
00:27:19
previous occas they're they're still reviewing the technology, right? They're still
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reviewing devices that are Nikita's and now they are looking at Tik Tok and this
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is from late 2024. These are communications where Awoken remember that was one of his
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handles was saying it's kind of interesting how I told this girl best friend about how I follow
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09A. So that's the order of the nine angles that we talked about. So order of nine angles teachings and whatnot. And
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she was pretty chill about it. He goes on to say, "I feel like mostly people would freak out,
00:28:07
lol." Says, "Does any girl know you're into 09A Charlie Manson?" Mystic. Sorry, some of these
00:28:20
handles I'm struggling with, but some somebody's somebody's replying said, "Well, they know." And then Awoken is
00:28:26
saying, "My parents don't know." LOL. They would take my phone away if they did,
00:28:32
especially since last year FBI visited LOL. Okay, so here's what we learn off of this, Captain. The FBI
00:28:44
interviewed the family of three in November of 2023 for unrelated internet IP activity. All members of the family
00:28:54
denied the IP activity and agents were allowed to view devices in internet history and found no
00:29:02
corroboration of the alleged internet activity. Yeah. But again, if FBI is coming to my house and they're
00:29:09
questioning activity and my son is being somewhat secretive, all devices would be
00:29:16
terminated from his possessions. Yeah. And they may have done that. Um because we do see him saying to somebody, "If
00:29:25
they did know, they would take away my phone. If they did know, they'd take away my device." Especially because the
00:29:31
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00:35:07
[Music] today. All right, we are back. Cheers, mates. Cheers to you, Captain. I I think I
00:35:23
might need a vacation uh from Happy Mother's Day. All the doom and gloom that we talk about each week.
00:35:30
Happy Mother's Day. Well, there would have been a lot of doom and gloom if uh this Nikita was able to carry out what
00:35:38
his plans are per his communications with these other individuals that they found on his devices and phone. because
00:35:46
what he was saying, I'm going to summarize this for all of you. We get to the manifesto part. We'll get to the
00:35:53
manifesto part, but I but I want to talk about some of these communications without having to go through all of the
00:35:59
back and forth of it and plus these stupid handles that people use. Mine is uh Maverick Jensen. I have only the best
00:36:08
handles. All right, the love handles just like Gary Payton. I got the best handles uh with these communications.
00:36:17
The short of it is this. He Nikita appears to be attempting to he he wants to overthrow the United States
00:36:29
government. And this is look this story by itself is beyond bizarre. This story happening when we were trying to put
00:36:37
together the hate made in America story is incredibly bizarre. as well that the timing of that because a lot of the
00:36:46
stuff that he's talking about in his communications are similar to the things that we saw with groups like the Aryan
00:36:52
Nation and these other groups that we discussed in Hate and America in Americanmade in the six-part series. The
00:37:00
short of it here is that he wants to set into place a series of events, chaotic and destructive events that will
00:37:10
cause extreme chaos in the United States and then flee and get the hell out of here and kind of like a like a
00:37:19
pyromaniac. Watch it all burn to the ground. Yeah, like the Joker. So, he's communicating with some of these
00:37:25
individuals that are overseas. We mentioned the one individual that he was talking speaking with in Russian. He's
00:37:33
asking these people if can you get me out of here? If if I if I if I kick these dominoes and they start to
00:37:40
fall, can you get me out of here so I don't get caught? And then can you keep me safe and house me somewhere so that I
00:37:49
can get away with this? And the people he's talking to are basically saying, "Yes, we will help you. we will help
00:37:57
conceal you. And he says, "Look, well, what happens to me? Eventually, they're going to find
00:38:04
out that I did this, meaning not just the United States, but the authorities of whatever country I'm being concealed
00:38:13
in at the time, what happens to me when they find out?" And they're they're basically stating to them, "We we will
00:38:21
set you up. We will provide you with an with an underground railroad to keep you
00:38:26
safe and house you until it's safe for you to come out of hiding and and you might even be revered as some kind of
00:38:34
revolutionist or some kind of hero in the endgame for this for making all of this take place.
00:38:42
Now the crux of his plan is to get funds to start these attacks, this chaos that he wants to
00:38:53
ensue, this destructive activity, these essential they're basically terrorist attacks that he wants to carry out in
00:39:00
the United States so that it it all goes to hell and the the the United States crumbles. But he's going to need money
00:39:09
for that. He's a lone wolf. So, he's acting by himself even though he does have people that have made him promises
00:39:14
afar. People that have made him promises to keep him safe and to house him eventually, right? How's he going to
00:39:20
fund this activity? He's going to fund it by stealing the money and valuables from his parents, which might have been
00:39:28
part of the motive to for the homicides, which is 100% according to the beliefs of the detectives and the FBI working
00:39:36
this case. It sounds like the information they've reviewed and the evidence they've reviewed, they believe
00:39:42
that that is the majority reason, if not the sole purpose for him killing the parents, which seems incredibly deranged
00:39:52
to me. But again, yeah, but this guy has a lot of deranged thoughts. I mean, one of it it
00:39:59
seems going through the manif manifesto seems like some of his beliefs are coming
00:40:05
from Adolf Hitler. So, if you're if you're looking to for inspiration from Adolf Hitler, you might not be in the
00:40:17
right frame of mind. No, there there's nothing in here to suggest that he is in the right frame of mind. In fact, you're
00:40:25
exactly right there, Captain. There's everything in these in this manifesto and his communications with other people
00:40:32
to suggest that he's in the complete wrong frame of mind. And and look, I I hate I loved your joke about the bomb
00:40:41
makers or your slight about the bomb makers and manifestos because I hate manifestos.
00:40:47
And this is a true crime dork that enjoys communications. You love notes. I love letters. I love notes. I love phone
00:40:54
calls, but I hate mana man manifestos. I feel like manifestos is a mad man's way
00:41:00
of trying to explain to the world here's why I did all the crazy [ __ ] that I did.
00:41:05
I'm not crazy, right? I'm not a homicidal maniac. I'm a man of principle. I have I have values. I have
00:41:14
I have I'm trying to write a wrong. I'm trying to show you the correct way. Yeah. But when you kill Right. And and
00:41:22
that's the thing. When you kill innocent people, that proves you don't have values. That proves you don't have So,
00:41:31
it's just like you can you've run out of ideas, right? You can read Ted Kazinsk's
00:41:36
manifestos and agree with some of the stuff he has in there about maybe there's parts of technology that are bad
00:41:44
or that are taking over the world and and taking over uh uh the human experience. But once you start then
00:41:53
trying to again justify killing innocent people through these it's like okay cool
00:42:01
that's that's fine that you you think these things are bad but I can go on Facebook or YouTube or I can make a
00:42:09
podcast saying hey I think technology has gotten out of hand or like my little uh manifesto a couple minutes ago on on
00:42:18
the fact that everybody seems so busy. all the time. And maybe that's not the way we need to be living life. Maybe we
00:42:26
need to slow down a little bit. But I can I can make these observations and affect change in the
00:42:36
world without having to kill people in in order to do so. Yeah. Kazinsk's manifesto and it that's the one I might
00:42:45
despise the most as far as manifestos go because there's so many people especially get online they're like well
00:42:53
he makes some good points and well no [ __ ] his IQ is through the roof on on its surface there are going to be things
00:43:01
in there that will make sense and even sound intelligence intelligent but at its core it's complete [ __ ] Mhm. So
00:43:09
let's get into this. the the manifesto here of of this Nikita. So, it states that the FBI personnel performing the
00:43:19
review of these devices, they were able to locate and view images of a three-page document entitled Accelerate
00:43:28
the Collapse. The images, which appear to be screen grabs of a document that was displayed on a phone, were created
00:43:36
on February 28th, 2025. The document appears to be the manifesto referenced by this
00:43:44
accelerationist in the messages with the unknown user in uh some of the communications that we've already gone
00:43:51
through. Basically calling for the assassination of the president of the United States in order to ferment a in
00:43:59
order to start a political revolution in the United States and save the white race from Jewish controlled politicians.
00:44:07
The third page of that document references what you were talking about here, Captain. It contained images of
00:44:14
Adolf Hitler with text that says, "Hail Hitler. Hail the white race. Hail victory." Digging through this a little
00:44:21
more, uh there's says as to why specifically Trump, I think it's obvious by getting rid of the president and
00:44:29
perhaps the vice president as well, that is guaranteed to bring some chaos. And not only that, but it will further
00:44:36
bringing into the public the idea that assassinations and accelerating the collapse are in fact possible things to
00:44:44
do some more. Now, what if you say you aren't capable of committing these acts? This is perfectly fine for now. The best
00:44:54
thing you can do is to tribe and train. So, this would be try to find like-minded individuals or corrupt
00:45:02
individuals uh through your speech and through your writings or influence individuals into joining your [ __ ]
00:45:11
cause and then train them in some kind of paramilitarial paramilitary fashion. Yeah, but this this is where I find it
00:45:21
funny. You can tell this is all [ __ ] because when somebody says find like-minded individuals,
00:45:30
like you have to find other individuals that have these crazy thoughts. You know, if you want to if you really want
00:45:37
to make change, the way to do so is find individuals that don't have the same ideas as you. And then and and find
00:45:47
multiple groups, multiple people that have different sets of ideas and values and bring everybody together and try to
00:45:55
make some kind of compromise or some kind of uh system that will work for everyone. That's how you would make real
00:46:03
change. Make connections. It says, "Join white conscious martial arts clubs because once America collapses, there
00:46:12
will have to be a network that can take its place, take the place of its uh of our government and our communities,
00:46:20
right?" Goes on to say, "Find bomb making instructions." And they they do reference a bunch of books. And I'm not
00:46:29
even going to go through the books that they reference because I because there's
00:46:32
there's some Yahoo listening to this going, "Hey, this is sounds pretty interesting." We're not giving you the
00:46:38
titles for reading material. No, we will have a recommended reading at the end of
00:46:42
today's show, but it won't include any of these uh titles that are listed here. It'll be the the gospel according to to
00:46:49
Luke. Gospel according to the colonel. So, one thing that he talks about wanting to do is assassinate the
00:46:59
president, but there's also going to be a series of attacks that he's going to carry out. And I imagine that the
00:47:07
without having the information, it would appear that the the idea is to build these bombs and conduct these terrorist
00:47:16
attacks. And he's stating that at this time after killing the president, I don't know what these other attacks will
00:47:23
be. He's basically saying, but I will tell you this. When you see a series of 10
00:47:30
attacks, 10 terrorist attacks, know that that was me. Yeah. So, and this is this
00:47:37
will further that thought here. It says, quote, "As a as a side note, the other attacks that may occur, I have no idea
00:47:47
what they are slash who they target. I have no idea even if they are same ideology as I." Point being, this
00:47:56
manifesto is specifically for the attack that targets Trump. There'll never be a
00:48:02
perfect revolutionary situation that springs up out of nowhere. We need to create a revolutionary situation
00:48:08
ourselves. I do agree that only if terrorism is sustained over a period of time can it be effective. In short, huge
00:48:17
amounts of violence will be required. Long past are the days when we can vote for a Hitler to save us. It is time we
00:48:26
stop waiting. The best day to commit an attack is today. The next best day is tomorrow. This is so
00:48:34
bizarre. long are past long we are past the days of being able to vote for a Hitler to save us and then some
00:48:44
individuals think that Trump is Hitler but this guy doesn't I then take that belief it's just it's so bizarre well
00:48:54
the and within the information that they've made public here too the FBI does a decent job of attempting to
00:49:02
educate us the general public on what some of this may mean or or what it has ties to. And when they do that, they're
00:49:11
they're referencing a nihilistic, violent extremist, individuals who engage in criminal conduct within the
00:49:18
United States and abroad and furtherance of political, social, or religious goals
00:49:25
that derive primarily from a hatred of society at large and a desire to bring about its collapse by sowing
00:49:33
indiscriminate chaos, destruction, and social instability. Nihilistic violent extremists work individually or as part
00:49:41
of a network with these goals of destroying civilized societies through the corruption and exploitation of
00:49:48
vulnerable populations which often include minors and we know in this situation that to be true with the minor
00:49:56
and he's communicating with people abroad. This is not like we we already referenced that it's very similar to
00:50:04
Timothy McVey, Oklahoma City, the uh Richard Snell who we talked about in Hate American Made. Mhm. This is also
00:50:14
not unlike what we first suspected and now we are finding is very likely true. the horrific attack that took place New
00:50:24
Year's Eve in New Orleans where it's an American where we have someone here who's conducting this violence and very
00:50:34
likely not just communicating but also might be receiving some kind of inspiration or help from somebody
00:50:42
abroad. Some of these groups, most of them in fact, that aren't here or don't have boots on the ground here through
00:50:50
the internet and through social media, they're finding ways to influence and weaponize Americans. And this,
00:51:01
look, they foiled his plan. I I don't know that I don't think that he would have gotten away with any of this. Who
00:51:09
knows if he would have even carried it out. What we do know that he carried out is the murder almost execution style of
00:51:15
of his stepfather and the murder of his own mother to steal from them. [ __ ] man. You could have waited till they
00:51:23
were at work taking all their things, taking their gun. It it it's it's so I mean, I hate to use the word unfortunate
00:51:32
because that doesn't even start to get near the situation, but these two people lost their lives because of this man's
00:51:39
craziness. and two people that were trying to provide opportunities for him to have a better future. This kid is
00:51:48
described as smart from the people at the school. And if the house and the family dynamic and the the home life was
00:51:54
as described by Donald's mother, th this is an ideal living situation for any 17-year-old. And now
00:52:04
we sit here with a lot of questions, right? It's a it's a lot of information to try to digest. A lot of
00:52:12
it giving us more questions and a lot of this is going to get played out in the court of law
00:52:22
maybe. Who knows? Like I said, I this is beyond incriminating evidence in my mind
00:52:26
and I I don't know what kind of defense this kid will have. it would probably be
00:52:32
in his best interest to sing like a bird and and plead guilty to all of the charges. But this is the the
00:52:39
investigation, true crime, you know, many people get into true crime for many different reasons. The thing that
00:52:45
fascinates me with these true crime stories is the investigation because the investigation themselves are just
00:52:51
equally as unique as the crimes. And here what we saw play out was was an investigation of its of the simplest of
00:53:04
forms. A resource officer at the at the high school making an inquiry about an absent child. A mother making and
00:53:15
requesting a welfare check of her 51-year-old son, successful son in his family. That's the simplest of
00:53:22
investigations and it quickly turns into a missing person's case investigation, a
00:53:27
homicide, then double homicide investigation. An investigation where you have a wanted individual who has
00:53:34
crossed state lines in a stolen vehicle with a stolen firearm. And then once he's arrested and you review the
00:53:41
materials on his person and in the vehicle with him, you quickly figure out, holy [ __ ] this is a federal
00:53:47
investigation. He's very likely going to be convicted on all levels at all levels, the state
00:53:54
level and the federal at the federal level. And they're they're going to have to they're going to have to decide if
00:54:00
they try him as as an adult. Um but he's going to be facing uh I think he is set
00:54:09
to appear in court what on the 7th maybe of May. Correct. So, he is due in court
00:54:15
in on May 7th, which will be very shortly after this hits your ear balls. It does appear that not only was he
00:54:23
communicating with people outside of this country, but he may have been attempting to flee. I this is one part
00:54:29
of it captain that I would like to know more about because there is talk communication that they found that is
00:54:38
highly suggestive that not only would he be paid for these horrific acts and for
00:54:45
murder. They talk about Bitcoin instructions. So, not only is he going to be housed, but but someone is giving
00:54:53
him the belief that he's going to be paid for setting chaos in motion. Exactly. And there's also talk about it looks to
00:55:05
me like there was somewhat of a a very flawed, but it appears to me that there was a basic flee plan as
00:55:15
well, fleeing from the country because there's communication talking back and forth about him needing to get to
00:55:22
Eureka, California. So obviously law enforcement is going to try to convict him of the murder charges that will put
00:55:30
him away for life, but also he might just be the the tip of the spear. And through this
00:55:38
investigation, maybe they're they'll be able to and and maybe if Nikita is able to get some kind of mental health um
00:55:48
assistance, you know, to get him in a better mental state that maybe he'll be able to pro provide information to
00:55:55
authorities and the FBI to uncover some of these individuals that he was speaking to on the interwebs. Yes. And
00:56:05
that's exactly right. So this is according to a classmate of Nikita's. This is what the FBI is saying that
00:56:14
Nikita told this classmate that he was in contact with a male in Russia via telegram and they were planning to
00:56:21
overthrow the government of the United States and assassinate President Trump. Nikita told the classmate that when they
00:56:27
saw 10 consecutive attacks in the news, it would have been him. And then the FBI
00:56:34
states in their report to the judge stating in some Nikita appears to have written a manifesto calling for the
00:56:42
assassination of the president of the United States. He was in touch with other parties about his plan to kill the
00:56:48
president and overthrow the government of the United States. And he paid for, at least in part, a drone and explosives
00:56:56
to be used as a weapon of mass destruction to commit an attack. The killing of his parents appeared to be an
00:57:04
effort to obtain the financial means necessary to carry out his plans. Other parties with whom Nikita was in contact
00:57:13
appear to have been aware of his plan and actions and have provided assistance to Nikita and carrying them out.
00:57:21
[Music] I want to thank everybody for joining us here in the garage each and every week.
00:57:33
And I want to thank the listeners that reach out to us to say, "Hey, I I saw this case in the news. I'd like to do a
00:57:42
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00:57:49
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00:58:03
Yes, and don't forget to follow the show on Instagram and X as well. Recommended
00:58:10
reading for this week, Captain is Caresh, the true story of David Caresh in the tragedy at Waco by Stephven
00:58:17
Tolty. Steven Toly is a New York Times best-selling author with two of his books being made into films, most
00:58:25
notably his book, A Captain's Duty with Richard Phillips. So, from that came the
00:58:32
Oscarinning Captain Phillips movie that so many people enjoyed. As Steven Toly writes, there is no other event in the
00:58:40
last 50 years shrouded in myth like the 1993 siege of the branch devidians in Waco, Texas. This there's many many
00:58:51
books about Waco. There's many many books about David Caresh. I've reviewed a couple of them. Not all of them,
00:58:59
several of them. This one I thought was the most informative, the most deep dive. I thought this one was the best
00:59:06
and really truly the best written. That's Caresh, the true story of David Caresh and the Tragedy at Waco by Steven
00:59:14
Toly. But you don't have to write that title down right now because you can go to true crimegar.com, click on our
00:59:20
recommended page and you will find that great recommendation as well as many others. Some are documentaries, some are
00:59:26
books, some are podcasts. Go there and check out the stuff that influences us here in the garage. And until next week,
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