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crime [Music] thank you [Music] December 28 2017 Broomfield Colorado near Boulder
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at 3 30 PM a 9-1-1 call comes into Broomfield police it's a male caller his name is Joseph Mourinho
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he's calling emergency services to report that his girlfriend nineteen-year-old Natalie Bollinger is
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missing he believes Natalie left their home around noon then Joseph tells the dispatcher the Natalie's phone was left
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behind so he has no way to contact her she didn't take her coat and he has no idea where she could be
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he's very concerned we've seen so many missing persons reports in the past that are largely
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ignored or downplayed by police but here Natalie's disappearance was of immediate concern because six days
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before she vanished she had been issued a permanent restraining order against the man who Natalie claimed was stalking
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her but there's more Natalie's boyfriend told police that it wasn't just Natalie that was
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missing Joseph's Glock nine millimeter pistol was gone as well this is true crime garage
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and this is the very mysterious case of Natalie Bollinger [Music] thank you [Music]
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Broomfield police took Natalie's disappearance seriously right from Jump Street Captain law enforcement issued an
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appeal to the public to be on the lookout for Natalie the Ebola the be on the lookout described her as a Caucasian
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female age 19 she is listed at four foot 11 inches tall and weighs about a hundred pounds
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she has maroon colored hair very distinctive hair maroon colored hair and hazel eyes she also has two facial
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piercings and a unique tattoo on her left forearm some have described this tattoo as something like a sunflower
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with a yin and yang symbol that was on Thursday afternoon and into the evening family friends and police all out
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looking for this missing young woman the next day Friday December 29th a Dairy Farmer worker in Thornton Colorado came
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across a dead body in the woods just off of a dirt road this was at East 116th Avenue and Riverdale Road the hiker
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called the Adams County Sheriff's office around 3 15 p.m and reported the body the worker reported that there was no
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doubt that the person was dead leaves were piled on top of the corpse in a lame attempt to conceal the body Adams
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County deputies arrived at the scene they observed the body of a female wearing black jeans a black hoodie Black
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Boots and socks her body was covered in leaves a single gunshot wound was visible in her head now no
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identification was found with the body but the Adams County authorities were quickly in touch with the Broome field
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police who issued the beyond the lookout they checked Natalie bollinger's Facebook page they see this distinctive
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tattoo the distinctive hair prominently featured on the Facebook page and sadly they're quick to be able to identify
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that the body is that of Natalie Bollinger roughly 24 hours after Natalie went missing her body was found sadly it
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was not what anybody was hoping of course and Natalie Bollinger was found within a half hour's drive from her home
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as said it's obvious to police and First Responders when they get to the scene that she that the victim is dead police
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contacted Natalie's family and had to break the tragic news to them when the police in the coroner arrived
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on the scene there would be reasons to consider maybe this was a suicide but further examination with no gun found at
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the scene and the impossibility of a body attempting to conceal itself with the leaves and whatnot it was obvious
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that this was a murder and the Adams County Sheriff's Office in the Broomfield police commenced on a joint
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homicide investigation yeah it's not impossible that somebody commits suicide out in the woods somebody stumbles along
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and finds the weapon and takes it but it's just very unlikely Adams County Sheriff Mike McIntosh held a news
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conference in which he said there is a 26 hour time period that is missing where we don't have anyone who was
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talking to Natalie through social media or by text or in person or on the telephone that's a crucial time we are
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looking at if anyone came into contact with Natalie on the telephone or on social media or there is a photo of her
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out there those are all things that would be important to our investigation so that's 26 hours captain that is from
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the time that it is believed that she left the house which would be about 12 30 p.m the previous day and then found
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the next day around 3 P.M that next afternoon yeah what law enforcement is hoping for we have a 26 hour window and
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if we can find somebody that talked to Natalie we can shorten that timeline by by a good amount during the news
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conference Macintosh read a prepared statement from Natalie's Father Ted Bollinger that read quote our family has
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been deeply devastated by this loss and cannot fully Express how much we miss our beautiful Natalie our hearts are
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absolutely broken end quote law enforcement is able to hone in on a suspect relatively quickly in Natalie's
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case we learn about this captain at this press conference so we have Sheriff McIntosh who said at the press
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conference that there was no threat to anyone in the community and Deputy Michael Kaiser told The Denver Post on
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December 29th quote there are people of interest but no suspects at this time end quote and that was true Captain the
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authorities already had some Persons of Interest in their sites the very same day that Natalie was found and with the
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comment about no threat to the community they clearly suspected a targeted attack
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and it looks like they probably had reason too definitely if you're law enforcement you just start going back
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through her Communications on text message you can see that she feels like there was at least somebody in her life
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that was emitting a threat to her okay so let's address this person's of interest
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statement before we move on to someone who is an obvious suspect in my mind in this case and frankly
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one bizarre dude a person of interest in this case of course would be Natalie's boyfriend who
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she lived with and some reports have the two as being engaged to get married Natalie's boyfriend Joseph was looked at
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pretty good early in this investigation but he was quickly cleared by Detectives
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and so they were able to move on to a more viable suspect at that time the reason that they were able to move
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on from Joseph is at first they they liked him for a suspect because he reports his girlfriend as missing
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however he does not tell police immediately that the gun that was in their apartment was also missing right
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he didn't report this and he comes clean with them very quickly saying look I I purposely withheld that information from
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you guys because I thought it would get Natalie in trouble I want you to find her I don't want her to get into any
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trouble she's been having some issues and I don't want to create additional issues for her
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so his heart was in the right place maybe not his mind but it was with good intentions and they also very quickly
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they're able to confirm he was at work that entire day they speak with several people that he works with they all say
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yes Joseph was here they have him on surveillance cameras on camera being at work during that time period that they
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are concerned with so they are able to move on from Joseph very quickly because of all of this evidence and you say it
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all the time the timeline is so important and when you have a window of 26 hours it's harder to get an alibi for
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a boyfriend or a friend or possibly a stalker when you have such a a large time frame
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you might be able to get an alibi for four or five hours but you need an alibi for basically 26. police were hip to all
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the rumors and accusations flying about online Natalie's friends and family were
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posting about one person in particular and the deputy's statement that they had Persons of Interest made only one day
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after Natalie was murdered implies that there was an obvious suspect at the time
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the man the family was pointing to was the man that Natalie had received an order of protection against the man she
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posted about online saying that this man was stalking her the man who was now posting Rants and strange comments
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online about Natalie and that man's name is Sean Schwartz yeah you have a young female that is telling her boyfriend
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telling her family even went as far as to get a restraining order against this individual and she goes missing
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obviously this is the first person that Law Enforcement wants to talk to so let's keep in mind our time in question
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here is late December Natalie's Facebook page showed the following post made by her on December 13
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2017. this is just two weeks before she went missing and here's what it said verbatim hey y'all I have a public
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service announcement there is a man Sean Schwartz I met this man when I was young
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I ran into him about two years ago long story short I became friends with him I helped him out with rides and stuff I
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moved to Virginia he drove across country to see me slept behind my work for weeks when I told him I didn't want
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to see him anymore he sent me hundreds of texts and calls he parked his car in front of my house blocking Military
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Highway for hours laying on his horn he was arrested since then I've asked him to leave me alone and he won't he's sent
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email for over a year close to every day harassing me making numerous account until I block him again
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threatening my family telling me he'll kill himself in front of me and sending my friends and family harassing messages
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as well I'm sharing this because he's posted slander about me all over Facebook so if you receive a message I
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am sincerely sorry please ignore him it only encourages him when he gets a response much like a child he's mentally
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ill and I'm trying to fix this and with that post Captain she included a screenshot of a photo someone had posted
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the photo was of 42 year old Sean Schwartz which showed a thin man with a scraggly beard and a half bald head and
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he's like got the scowl on his face yeah he definitely looks uh disheveled and like he's not taking care of himself and
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like she stated she believes that he's mentally ill one of the reasons Natalie might have cited in her request for a
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restraining order was a post from Schwartz on September 10th that read quote Natalie I wanted only the best for
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you now all I want is for you to go through the hell I've lived I want to blow my head off in front of
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you so close you can feel the warmth spatter of my blood on your face I want you to feel every bit of my pain because
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you gave it to me and didn't care you should not have pretended to care end quote okay so that's a lot
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uh someone's a little needy here that's a lot to unpack according to Natalie's loved ones Natalie was very afraid of
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Sean Schwartz and judging by the post it's frankly it's easy to see why yeah very
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easy to see why she would be afraid of Sean these are not posts made by somebody in their right mind this is
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definitely somebody that needs to get some help police pulled Schwartz in very quickly and interviewed him at length
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Sheriff McIntosh told the media quote we have talked to him we are not ready to call anyone a suspect but it's certainly
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a part of our investigation The Daily Camera which is a bolder newspaper many of you might remember us talking about
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them from our JonBenet Ramsey coverage they did a lot of terrific reporting in this case in Natalie's case they managed
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to get a comment from Sean Schwartz confirming that he had been questioned by police but he wasn't arrested and no
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charges were forthcoming but there was a lot of online activity accusing this guy
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accusing Schwartz this whole thing was playing out very publicly on Facebook after all Natalie herself the victim had
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posted on Facebook that she was being stalked by this man and Schwartz himself was an incessant
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Facebook poster who used the Forum to air his crazy ramblings Schwartz was mentally ill what exactly his diagnosis
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was is unclear he admitted only to having Asperger's Syndrome a disorder which placed him on
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the autism spectrum and Tourette's Syndrome which he blamed for poor communicative abilities according to him
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he received disability payments in excess of 700 a month because of these conditions as a result apparently he had
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nothing to do all day but post on Facebook and his YouTube channel as we saw he posted that very disturbing post
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about wanting to blow his brains out all over Natalie and of course it was not lost on anyone that Natalie
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had then died by being shot in the head obviously when people were concerned about her being missing they were
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contacting Sean and he kept on saying look I had nothing to do with it just helped find Natalie Natalie's
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friends and family and even people who weren't involved at all they're all posting that they knew they're stating
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this online on Facebook and such they knew that Schwartz was responsible for Natalie's murder the news media jumped
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in too well look this guy is definitely not stable this guy definitely needs to be looked at as a person of interest as
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there's other individuals that need to be looked at as a POI but none of these individuals have a crystal ball with
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heavy issuing one of their own five things you need to know about Sean Schwartz at first Schwartz sort of kept
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it together posting that he was still trying to stay out of the way and let the cops do their jobs
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and like the captain said he's pointing out and saying online I didn't kill anyone but according to medium Schwartz
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created a fake Facebook account and posted in the comments on Natalie's Post in which she had outed him as a
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dangerous stalker his secret post he creates this fake account Captain so he can go in there and defend himself
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right he's creating posts that's defending Sean Schwartz and implied that Natalie's family and friends knew
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exactly what had happened to her well again he's mentally ill so him defending himself
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it might come off making him look more guilty he doesn't know that he's just adding fuel to the fire yes so everyone
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online piled on Schwartz the stalker whose Target was now a murder victim then after Schwartz's fake account is
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exposed for what it was he starts posting back on his real account again so do you want to talk about some of
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these posts here Captain I never know how much of this stuff this type of thing the masses would want to hear I
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think it's interesting okay without going through every crazy and often violent or even threatening post that
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this guy made he said things like he would kill them all and he hopes that they will all die at one point he makes
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claims that he was assaulted on more than one occasion by people accusing him of being responsible
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for Natalie's death and then adds to that that the police turned a blind eye when he went to them to report these
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assaults so he's saying these people aren't just accusing me online I've been physically attacked out on the streets
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by people accusing me and I've gone to the police and tried to file reports about these assaults and the police are
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purposely looking the other way it's really hard to believe Schwartz anything he States because also we we don't know
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the struggles that he is dealing with mentally so it's really hard to believe him on anything he made a short YouTube
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video well several short YouTube videos of himself ranting and raving about missing persons
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other cases than Natalie's case missing persons and trafficking investigations and that Natalie is evil and her family
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belongs in prison then you take that and you keep going back to the restraining order right you take all this activity
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that he's doing online and you cross check that with this restraining order Natalie got against this dude because he
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was totally off the rails even before Natalie went missing before she was killed and you got to be saying to
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yourself and everyone that is willing to listen that if it walks like a murderous
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duck and it quacks like a murderous duck well it probably is a murderous duck [Music]
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you Colonel cheers Captain cheers to all the people in the back online sluice came up with what some
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were calling evidence or at least online evidence that Schwartz killed Natalie Bollinger they noticed that his
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incessant Facebook post came to a screeching halt on December 28th with a post about a missing child this around 3
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A.M that day then he remained offline for 19 hours when he came back online his first post was about Natalie being
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missing this is at 9 50 p.m on the 28th and here we go captain on January 9th police arrested
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37 year old Sean Schwartz but the arrest was not for murder so obviously with this Arrest A lot of
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people online go well law enforcement got their man seems like Schwartz was at his Breaking
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Point yeah because again the arrest is not for the murder of Natalie Bollinger what happened was all of this online
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Warfare as the captain said pushed Schwartz to the breaking point he was already showing signs of severe
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mental illness after Natalie was found and the public tide of accusation against him continued to grow
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he increasingly and desperately posted about his innocence that he had been unfairly convicted in the court of
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public opinion and that he wanted to help bring the real killer to Justice but he continued to spiral
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and spiral out of control and finally posted on his Facebook page quote I am on my way at John's Church in Boulder on
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15th and Spruce come out me in the ground you effing cowards is basically and I apologize for the broken English
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there but I'm reading it verbatim as he posted it so he's he's this is very dangerous Behavior
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right so he's being accused by all these people clearly he's at his breaking point now he's challenging all these
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people yeah challenging people this is this is scary but it's also sad because you know that this man is mentally ill
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this is where I'm going to be this is where I'm going come at me all of you come and join me here and he said
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something about in the ground and I imagine that is he's saying I'm going to put anybody that comes after me in the
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ground right so this is activity that the police are witnessing they're they're watching it and they're
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monitoring this activity they take this as an indication that Schwartz was going to either harm
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himself or harm other people so they head over to his apartment for a welfare check they knew that he was entangled in
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the Natalie Bollinger case and they probably use this online post as an excuse to go and pay him a visit
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this is from The Daily Camera according to the arrest affidavit Boulder Police found Schwartz at St John's Episcopal
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Church where he told officers he missed his friend Bollinger and wanted to talk to her but could not because she was
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dead officers were able to get shorts to go with them to Boulder Community Health
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Foothills Hospital without incident but once he was there officers said he began
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screaming and yelling at the staff when he tried to leave the room and refuse to
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listen to staff instructions police tried to place him under arrest so he's trying to leave and flee and they're
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like no you you have to be here according to the affidavit Schwartz struggled with officers at one point
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trying to kick and bite them officers were eventually able to get Schwartz into custody and transported him to jail
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now we should note too that he had just one prior arrest in in Boulder this was for theft so while he is saying a lot of
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violent and threatening statements online this is not a guy with a lengthy police
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record no but definitely a individual that's not stable so again it could hurt somebody but he could hurt himself and a
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lot of his posts are these wild uh aggressive posts but then there's also videos of him where he's comes across as
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very you know disheveled uh very Meek very timid uh so this is a very difficult situation and obviously this
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has to be difficult for friends and family members because you think law enforcement
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has to look at this guy and this guy just makes sense that he's the one that's responsible Schwartz was charged
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with second-degree assault on a peace officer obstructing a peace officer and resisting arrest the cops did tell the
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judge that he was a murder suspect and upped the bail but Sean Schwartz was released on a five thousand dollar
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personal recognizes bond which a lot of people at the time thought was kind of surprising but this would be unless he
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wasn't an actual murder suspect after this whole incident Schwartz denied that he had killed Natalie he continued to
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deny that he killed Natalie he posted online that cops scratched me off their list reportedly he had
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receipts verifying that he had a rock solid Alibi for the 28th and ID reported that Schwartz also
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claims that he was staying with a friend from December 26th through the period when Natalie disappeared and then was
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later found well this makes it more difficult for her friends and family in law enforcement because if you think
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this guy is responsible you're also afraid that he might do something to himself and that maybe we never get
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answers in Natalie's case well and what's Wild here in this case captain and warranted in some way
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is people online were Furious they're like this guy so obviously killed this girl killed this young woman
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he needs to be arrested this case isn't that difficult what are these detectives
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doing what is this Sheriff's Department doing they're they're not capable of solving this clearly and not only that
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people online were Furious that she had a restraining order against this guy and
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they're like look the system failed to protect Natalie in life from this guy and now in death he's getting away with
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murder he he's not been arrested he's not charged and he's so obviously guilty that's what everybody's screaming from
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the mountaintops online so let's dive more into who Natalie was Natalie Marie Bollinger was born on February 24th 1998
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in Westminster Colorado to parents Rose and Ted Bollinger she had a twin sister Natalie graduated from Pathways High
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School in Colorado in 2017 and was accepted into a College nursing program with a scholarship her obituary reads
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Natalie lived in Colorado Rhode Island and Virginia Natalie was a gifted and talented artist that had been drawing
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since she could first grasp a crayon she loved animals and nature she treated everyone and everything with respect and
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dignity no matter their station or circumstances okay so that's the information from Natalie's obituary put
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together by her mother but it has to be said that it appears the truth was a little bit darker
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her we reviewed Natalie's Facebook post for several years before her death and sadly she had some demons there are
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references to drug addiction and self-mutilation there were several car accidents
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including one which was possibly a suicide attempt she talks about people letting her down frequently on Facebook
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and on the other hand though there are there are so many positive posts as well about
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her artwork and about Buddhist principles and Zen mantras how proud she was to graduate from high school and how
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excited she was for college life but then there was her childhood which was not great to put it plain and simple we
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we got a lot to get through so I think we will stick to the investigation here Captain if we find that the
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investigation takes us to something related to her earlier family life or her childhood we will cycle back but
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only if relevant to the case so let's get right back to the where the investigation is leading us
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right we still have Mr Sean Schwartz he's eager to prove that he and Natalie were actually friends before everything
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went South Sean Schwartz posted something like 100 screenshots of messages between the two of them so he's
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trying to point out to people like hey not only did I not kill this young woman not only did I not do what you're
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accusing me of doing but at one time we were actually friends I might be hurting
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too having lost Natalie these messages dated back to 2015. and in them the two seem to be
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unburdening themselves about their lives and finding support in each other and in
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each other's posts and really kind of Consulting each other and helping each other through their troubles well when
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you're dealing with mental health issues and you find somebody else that has dealt with some of the same stuff as you
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you you feel less alone so you feel like you have a partner and and you feel that you can be open
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and honest with maybe some of these struggling thoughts that you have well and we've said it time and time again
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the captain is a huge proponent and even some people's Heroes for uh mental health but here's the thing this is such
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a human thing this is such a human experience if you're having weird thoughts or if you're if you're living
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in a in a dark period talk to somebody it's it's human there it's don't be afraid to address these issues because
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everybody has them there is not if anybody tells you that they live their entire life with no mental health
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concerns at all not even for a brief moment they're lying to you it's human talk to somebody you'll find support
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you'll find somebody that may even be experiencing the very same thing and can help you through it and so that's what
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Natalie was attempting to do here that's what Sean was attempting to do here and
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it appears that they were able to help each other in some form or fashion at least early in their friendship well a
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lot of people have heard this analogy before but you know we need to talk more open and openly and honestly about
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mental health in our struggles but also when we get better when we overcome some
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of those struggles and so when you're talking to your friend if your friend came up to you and said hey I broke my
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arm you'd say you probably need to go see a doctor you probably need to see a professional to get that fixed this
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needs to be standard conversation somebody's saying I'm dealing with some dark tough
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issues and I'm dealing with some mental health issues and we need to get better at saying hey I I'm there for you I care
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about you and and you you should go seek treatment Natalie apparently met Sean Schwartz in the park it seems likely
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that at the time based off of everything that we are seeing that Natalie was involved in drugs at that time she did
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get sober and even after getting sober she maintained a friendship with Sean that's
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that's just a fact I know a lot of people don't like this Sean Schwartz character but
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it's a fact that they were in fact friends or friendly at one time she's trying to help this guy and she's
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providing services for him that he needs you know things like helping him with a ride somewhere from
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time to time and the verbal and emotional support by exchanging these messages now at some point this is in
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2016 they had a falling out which ended this friendship Schwartz reportedly claimed in one of
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his videos online that it was because he had posted personal information about Natalie this is personal
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information that she had shared with him and he ends up posting this online and making it public so we can see and
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certainly understand why they had a falling out right after her death Sean tried to explain away the whole alleged
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stalking thing too this to heavy.com he says quote I have a flip phone that proves I was invited to Virginia by
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Natalie we had no sexual relationship I was her friend I went to Virginia because Natalie got into a car accident
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within 24 hours of telling me she wanted to kill herself that's why I went there
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we were friends end quote Yeah like you said some people don't want to hear it but they both obviously had a friendship
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at some point and at some point they were both dependent on each other all of these
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statements are true right it's true Natalie did get into a bad accident totaling her car and the two had been
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friends but clearly what's so obvious to all of us and unfortunately was not ever obvious to Mr
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Schwartz Natalie's impressions of him had completely changed at some point the Friendship went South and she became
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afraid of him right she moves back to Colorado from Virginia in 2016. you can see it's not sadly we cannot interview
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Natalie to find out were these moves to get away from him or were there a whole lot of other factors involved in in the
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decision-making right Natalie's parents contentious relationship was obvious and
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evident from the planning of her funeral as reported by Investigation Discovery on January 8th Ted her father announced
00:40:39
that funeral services for Natalie would be held the following day but later announced that Services had been
00:40:45
canceled due to quote issues with funding in the state of Colorado you must have
00:40:52
both parents agree to all funeral plans and Cemetery Arrangements they must also
00:40:57
agree on funds coming from the District Attorney's office Heath Carroll managing partner of the
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funeral home wrote in a Facebook post this may be funds from the burial assistance program for low-income
00:41:12
families he wrote that Natalie's parents had been unable to reach an amicable agreement so the services were canceled
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and it might show you a little bit of a glimpse of what Natalie was dealing with
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with some of the struggles and the fighting between our family members on January 11th Natalie's mother Rose Kelly
00:41:36
and her side of the family announced that Memorial Services would be held in Virginia
00:41:43
on January 13th a funeral was held for Natalie at the church of Saint Teresa in Chesapeake
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she says quote I am proud she was mine Rose self told 10 on your side news all of the work that she had done this is
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Rose talking about her daughter Natalie all of the work that she had done and all of the plans she made and everything
00:42:08
she was about to get catapulted into all of that and she was super excited for her life end quote
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this we we discuss her having some dark times and having some dark periods in her past but there was also
00:42:27
you know life is a series of peaks of valleys we all go through the Peaks we all go through the valleys and Rose her
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mother is trying to point out yes she had some of this dark stuff in her life but she had all these other
00:42:42
things that she was excited about that she was planning for she was trying to plan for the future and she was excited
00:42:48
about going to school and she was excited about starting this portion of her life it also goes to show that this
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this is the parents this is her family this is her friends and loved ones trying to accept the situation and
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trying to understand this horrible situation that they have found themselves in [Applause]
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soon as you know [Music] I want to thank everybody for joining us here in the garage stay tuned till
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tomorrow so much more left in this case and until then be good be kind and don't
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litter [Music] thank you [Music] [Applause] foreign