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[Applause] [Music] [Applause] Hey. No, it goes Heyo. What's the guy on Howard Stern? Uh,
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hit him with the hide. Hit him with the hide. You know, anybody that is not a fan of
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Howard Stern really should what you should do if you're not a fan of Howard Stern is you should find one of your
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favorite actors or or favorite singers or whatever and just listen to a long interview with Howard Stern and that
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individual. you will learn so much more about that person and their character and and their true personality.
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Well, and I'm a regular Howard Stern listener. I'm not an everyday listener. Used to be for a long time, but now I'm
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just kind of a regular where I pop in there, pop in, pop out a couple times a week. Well, I love all the stuff that
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he's been dumping on YouTube. Oh god. That That's trouble though because if you start watching that,
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especially if you have a couple beers, you might find yourself stuck to the couch and having been there for 3 hours
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or or four hours because you get you fell down some babaouie rabbit hole or even John Hine. Um, hit him with a high.
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But the thing for me with Stern in his interviews, and I don't know if it's Stern is really good at it or it's the
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setting or that the the famous person or whoever it is just feels relaxed because
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it it generally turns into a conversation more so than your typical interview. Yeah. And the thing that I
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like about it a lot, you know how many times that I've, and this is how dumb I am. Um, you know, we shouldn't judge a
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book by its cover, but your cover looks smart. It's tough. It's tough to It's tough not to sometimes. Would you agree?
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Like on the surface of things. No, I don't. I'm not I don't have a lot of prejudice. No, I No, I try not to do
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that. But but where it's where it's highlighted for me that I find that I do in fact do that on occasion is I will
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listen to an interview of an actor or some musician or some sports athlete right on his show and going into it I
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think oh I'm not a big fan of soand so I'm not a big fan of this person it's probably going to be boring and then by
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the end I'm a fan of that person like I I'm like, "Oh, cool. I'll go look up some of their, you know, music that I
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already know, but now I'm I want to hear it with a with a different ear now." Or
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or, you know, somebody's been through some real [ __ ] that you didn't know, and
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you have a little more respect for them because their life wasn't so um you know, clouds and unicorns and candy
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every day. Well, like I like I may have just assumed. And I was joking, but I'm not saying that I'm holier than thou and
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and I don't have prejudice. I'm sure I'm sure I do. But I I think I come from a odd uh situation where I've I've
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always dove deep into certain individuals. So like I do too, but we one only has so
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much time. you. Well, being a being a musician, you have a lot more time uh than most people. But no, I think uh I
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think maybe when I was younger, I'd be shocked by, oh, this guy came from here and then he went to here. Especially
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like in the music realm, you know, you have a you take like Jimmyi Hendris for example. Jimmyi Hendris was uh you know,
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basically played in like a R&B big band. M well you get from that to the Jimmyi Hendricks experience. What? How does
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that make any sense? And then you find out uh you know one of his um biggest songs was a cover all along the
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Watchtower by Bob Bob Dylan, right? Mhm. And then you find out that he was a huge
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Bob Dylan fan and actually the best cover he probably ever did was Like a Rolling Stone. But all I'm saying is I
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think when you're um especially like when you're in school for music or school for any like
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you know really focused area that you really start diving into these you know people's background. So maybe maybe that
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has led me to the idea of what is this guy's full story before going not so much into that guy. Mhm. Uh, and also
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probably the conspiracy theorist in me is probably like, uh, we'll wait to judge this guy because let's see what he
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has to say. Well, a lot of times for me too, it's not so much that I'm like, I don't like this person. It's just I'm
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not like a huge fan. You know what I mean? Like or like even an example of of somebody that or a situation where I was
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kind of a fan was like um Fogerty. He had Fogerty on and I was a fan of CCR. I I own the as much as I mean as much as
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one our age would be. I guess I own the greatest hits album which is a really damn good album. It's extensive too.
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It's like 18 songs, 17 songs. There's a lot of songs on there. Yeah. And but that was as far as I ever went with like
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Fogerty or CCR. And he had Fogerty on there who's like 90 years old. Yeah. I'm I'm exaggerating. But uh still like a
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fascinating dude and like uh I I ended up circling back and listening to all those old songs again and even watching
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some other interviews and some things that Fogert's done on YouTube because like I said I I thought I was a fan but
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after the interview much more so. You know it was so cool to hear a guy that you know Stern's like how did you know
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when you're how did you know that you had a hit song? He goes, "When I was driving in my car listening to the radio
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and it came on." Mhm. And then he went on to explain that in his opinion, hearing a song on the radio in your car
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is in his opinion the way that it's meant to be played, the way that it's meant to be heard. And he has like a
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huge respect for um and and still a strong desire to this day to listen to music in his car. Yeah. Uh and the
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randomness of the radio. Did you see him uh they did that I think it was like CBS
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did that uh special on Woodstock because it was the anniversary. Did you see him on um uh Fulgrity on
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that? I did not. It it was really cool cuz they they were huge at the time and and they were such a there was such a
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bad um the traffic was so bad and people were just parking their cars that they couldn't drive through there anymore. So
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they actually had to take a helicopter in and I guess like CCR like made like some like kind of jokes about like we're
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so big we had to take a helicopter. They got a lot of good songs but they uh he said like you could only like they
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played at like 2 3:00 in the morning and like you could only see the first like couple
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rows but he said it wasn't even like that loud. But it was almost people were just listening or maybe they're falling
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asleep, you know. Um, but he wrote one of his big songs. Um, uh, Who Stopped the Rain? Oh, that's a
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good one. And did we ever figure out even by the end of the song who in fact did stop the rain? No, because what's so
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interesting about that song is it's uh it's about Woodstock. And so when they're talking about
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Woodstock, he then, you know, sits there with his guitar in a studio and he he plays, you know, he's playing the song
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and he says the third verse makes the most sense. and and and and the all the words sound like he's talking about
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Woodstock, but he said as I'm writing it, I realized it wasn't just about it was almost like when he was on stage
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at Woodstock that he saw what was happening there was a direct reflection of what was happening with his
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generation within society. Mhm. And when he, you know, again, okay, maybe I'm a little bit prejudiced because to me CCR
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songs, you know, classic always in like Vietnam um movies and and Yeah. Well, they're
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they're that time period. They're super old, like late60s. Yeah. And a big part of like late 60s to
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early '7s. Yeah. A big part of Forest Gump. And Oh, yeah. And I've always thought their s their songs were a
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little simple. Mhm. But then when you, you know, when the guy is explaining that this um
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connection between what was actually happening at Woodstock and what was happening in society and what they were
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doing there and what it all meant, you're like, man, this real simple song is really deep. Mhm. You know, so I I
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guess maybe I was prejudiced in that way. Um, but yeah, it was it was one of those moments where you're
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you hear in a song that I used to play in a older classic rock cover band and they played a lot of CCR songs and we'd
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play that song. Um, and it was almost like hearing it for the first time. Mhm. You're like, "Oh [ __ ] that's what it's
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about." Well, and the other thing too with like a song like uh fortunate son Yeah. It it's it's interesting to learn
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like the dude was drafted and to you know and to and and actually was uh served at uh some different forts and
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that that makes the song mean more rather than when when you know you you some people might look at that and go oh
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well this was just some punk punk kid that didn't want to go fight or or didn't have any experience with that
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writing about something that they don't truly know about. Um, I will say this though,
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and we will move on to some true crime stuff, I promise. But, uh, one more thought because it's a true it's a true
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crime. We haven't talked about CCR on that's right. That's why we're that's why we got to it. This is something you
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might appreciate, though. And it also goes back to the the whole thought that I mentioned about really getting to know
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somebody through listening to these interviews is um, a friend of mine, Sned, you know, my good buddy Sned. Mhm.
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And now one thing that Sned and I do, uh, that's a nickname. Uh, don't don't anybody out there believe that that a
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mother would name their son Sned. I'm going to call him Sned. He looks like a Sned. He'll get all the women if we call
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him Sned. So, my good buddy, one thing that we do together, something that we've we've shared uh this, you know, I
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guess you call it a hobby or whatever since high school. Okay. uh well since just after high school is we typically
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will go see bands that probably aren't they're well not probably they're definitely not popular anymore. They're
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you know on the back end of their career kind of thing. They're they're playing the hits. Yeah. Yeah. We and we've
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always done that. We're like every year let's go see two bands that that the nobody that the kids aren't listening
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to. Right. Right. And um so I said to him, I said, "Hey, John Fogerty is playing at the Dublin."
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So in in Ohio, in the greater Columbus area, they do a big fireworks display in all the suburbs and they usually take
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place on the 4th of July. Mhm. And the one in Dublin, I don't know if it's called like the It has some name, some
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name that they use every year, and I don't know exactly. I don't know if it's Fourth of July or the Dublin Festival,
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something like that. Mhm. But it's usually a fairly big to-do. Like they usually get a band that's that's like
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that that the kids aren't listening to, but all the old folks are going to know.
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And so John Fogerty played the Fourth of July festival in Dublin, Ohio one year.
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Yeah. Now, the cool thing about that that event is they do not charge for the tickets. There's no ticket price. Yeah.
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So, it's a free show. And I and I I called him or I text him a couple months in advance and I said, "Hey, good news.
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John Fogert, he's playing at this uh Fourth of July thing in Dublin. It's a free show. Do you want to go? I got to
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know. I got shut down." He said, "Good news. Sounds like a big snooze." Right. Right. He said, and then he then stop.
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Then about um I would say it was less than a year later because we know 4th of July, we know that date, right? It must
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have been in in in in April or May of the next year. Okay. Fogerty did the interview on Stern and
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my buddy calls me the next day and says, "You know who I would really like to see
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in concert sometime?" And I knew who who he was I wanted to Oh, man. I knew it. But I was I was going to I was setting
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it up. I was like, "You know what? This is T-ball. I'm going to watch him come up and and and hit this thing out of the
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park." Exactly what I know he's going to say. And I said, "Oh, who is that?" He goes, "John Fogerty." And I thought, "I
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would like to." And I said to him, I go, "You do realize you're a real son of a [ __ ] You do realize that less than a
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year ago, he played here at a free show that I asked you to go to with me and you had it wasn't like he had prior
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engagements or something else to do. It was a No, I don't want to go. And after saying all that, I will see
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Sned this weekend. Well, we went to see um um cuz we've actually, me, you and Sn
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have seen a lot of groups together. Some old ones. One of the best oldies but goodies experience probably ever. Um,
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I don't know. Maybe in my top five was uh 311 cruise. We went on the 311 cruise. It was me,
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you, SNED, and we were uh they were taking off, set in sail, and 311 was playing. And I think they
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started with down, but I could be wrong. They played a That sounds right. they played something big that was unexpected
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down or like from something from chaos maybe. But but anyways, it was one of those uh you know when the the wind is
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blowing and you getting goosebumps on you and I just remember like going this is crazy and and the people obviously
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there's thousands of people that paid a lot of money to be on this cruise and they were ob obviously going apeshit on
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the Leo deck. on the Leo deck. Yes, that was Yeah, the Leo deck was very cool and
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it was like in there they were doing the horn set and sail. Um what's the what's the
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uh what's the awesome guitar player's name? Mahomes. Yeah, Tim Mahoney. Yeah, Mahoney. That's right. Uh I'm so wrapped
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up in football right now. I'm thinking Pat Mahomes is the guitar player for 311. Uh Tim
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Mahoney, like very underrated guitar player. Like for for those that don't know or or that that haven't checked out
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311. And some people even if you don't like 311, it's hard not to like Mahoney as a guitar player. Perfect example of
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not judging a book by his cover. He's this like rock and roll. Yeah. Hard rock guitar player. Plays Paul Reed Smith
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guitars. I didn't know that he and this was a couple years ago. Um they were doing an interview and basically he
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started like getting stoned and he fell in love with the Grateful Dead and he would just sit around his guitar, you
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know, his apartment playing Grateful Dead songs and because Grateful Dead songs are structured in such a way that
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you could improvise with them. So, you're almost just like playing in the band. You're not, it's not like uh AC/DC
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where you have to play all the parts correctly for it to sound pretty good. You can kind of improvise while you play
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along. And that's kind of how he got um so deep into music and so deep into guitar playing. Well, then I'll circle
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back to judging a book by its cover. It seems to me like he's the most quote unquote rock and roll guy in that group.
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You think? Yeah. I don't know. I don't like No. I don't think so because he's he's kind of a hippie. Maybe. Maybe not.
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But he just seems to kind of ooze coolness like Yeah. But it's like a hippie. Yeah, you're right. It's not so
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strong rock and roll. It's just kind of a like he's just a different dude than the
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rest of us. Yeah. Everybody's going to be like, I want to talk about some true crime. Hey, we talk about this is this
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is how the garage started. We always had kind of um mainly two two subjects, you know, music and and then
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crime music. I mean, we talk about sports some, but that's I mean, we we never were much into like debating
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sports. It's kind of like what do you think of this? Okay. Value your opinion and that's it. We've always Nolan Ryan
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is the greatest pitcher of all. Yeah, we never done that. We but we've kind of done that with music but not
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aggressively, you know, but we'll sit there. cuz that's a fun that's a more of a fun debate because you and I have
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similar we like similar stuff but not I wouldn't say spot on but the thing the thing that makes it fun to talk with you
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about it is that while we may disagree we respect the other's opinion one and we we're kind of like if you say so and
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so is the greatest guitar player so and so is this and and this band is this it the other one goes I can see why you
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think that. Yeah, I can see that. We had a really great debate that one time on who was the greatest guitar player that
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was in a band like that wasn't Yeah. That didn't seem like a solo act. Yeah. Like like the band wasn't named after
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the guitar player. Yeah. Like Van Halen doesn't count because like that's just like by naming the band Van Halen,
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you've taken yourself out of the running. Yeah. But also like his role doesn't sit there with like
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he he I would almost say that Eddie's more known for some of his crazy solos than he is like his awesome riffs. Mhm.
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Where like or both like AC/Ds he has I would think more awesome riffs than solos. Edward Van Halen is the greatest
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keyboard player guitar guy of all time. I love what he's like, "All right, I'm I'm not only am I going to do
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the guitar, but from now on keyboards are mine, too." Well, I love what is his name? Mark Chapman. Have you met him
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ever heard of him? Guitar player. I When you said Chapman, I was thinking of the guy that shot Lennon. Mark
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Chapman. I think that's his name. Let me look it up real quick. Mark, have you met me Mark Chapman? I don't want to.
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Uh guitar. Let me just look this. I think uh yeah. Yeah. Mark Chapman. He's uh I think that's I think there's um
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if I'm correct, I could be wrong. The words from the pages turned into blood dripped down the pages and seeped
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into my veins. Well, okay. So, the problem with what is that? chapter 27 or something. Uh, okay. Mark David Chapman,
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I think I'm right. But anyways, there was a there was a a guitar player that was originally from Columbus that played
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on all the Van Halen tours. Oh, he's like the the guy the guy that you see in the back standing. No, no, no, no. What
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was so interesting about the Van Halen tours was he was never on stage. Oh, they didn't even let him on stage. He
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played guitar and keyboards. So when and and this is smart. I mean like you could
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have had a guy on stage if you wanted to. So when so when Eddie's playing keyboard, he's behind the scenes playing
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the guitar and then when he's playing guitar, he's behind the scenes playing keyboard. Right. So instead of having Oh
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wow. backing tracks. Yeah. Right. And he would play. But it's funny to me because
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I'm just gonna say I think Eddie Van Halen is a douchebag and I think he's so I second that opinion. I think he's so
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douchy that but I love him. Don't you? I love his guitar. I love his guitar playing. I love Van Van Halen, but he's
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just I would like to slap Edward Van Halen in the face. Oh, my favorite is when he says, um, when then I said to,
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then I said to David Lee Roth, I said, "If you say that, if you say that to me again, you better be wearing a cup."
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That's one of the biggest [ __ ] lines I've ever heard in my line. Cuz I'm a guy that likes to kick people in the
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junk. Yeah. I mean, it you know this. I mean, cuz you you got me to the there's that breaking point where you start
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saying stupid [ __ ] you know, where the guy's you get so angry that the guy starts going, "Oh, [ __ ] you." And the
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other guy goes, "Oh, no, [ __ ] you." We've all We've all been there. And my favorite is most of us. Adam Croll
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always talks about is when it gets to the point where it gets very sexual. Oh yeah, I'm going to [ __ ] you up. Yeah,
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I'm going to [ __ ] I'm going to [ __ ] you hard. And you're like, "What?" When it
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gets weird. I thought you were just going to fight. When Corella does that, it's just But yeah, when who says that?
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And then I told David Lee Roth that next time you say that to me, you better be wearing a cup. And they've done a couple
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tours together recently. And now it's Sammy Hagar that they that Eddie and Alex refuse to make amends with. No.
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Interesting thing. I just was uh I just heard this the other day. So David Lee Roth was doing like a long form
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interview. He did he did one with Joe Rogan and and and some other people I think promoting like he uh does some
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stuff with Sirius. David Lee Roth does like uh has where he actually picks the songs like actually he's a DJ. Mhm. Um
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well he was a DJ at what was that? Kiss FM in LA for some time. Oh yeah. Yeah. But was what was
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cool about the interview was they were saying oh this stuff is going to get back to his bandmates. He basically
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said, "Look, we don't hang out together. We have a hard time getting along on the
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road. Uh, we're not really friends, right?" You know, but he was also saying like, "Look, there's it's undeniable
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once we go on stage and do our thing, it's undeniable." So, it was funny cuz all these people were going, "This is
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going to get back to the Van Halens. You think the Van Halens care? They're multi
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multi-millionaires. They don't need to go on tour. I don't even think they're listening. No, to whatever that was.
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They're they him and his brother, they sit in the garage and they they play a concert every day for themselves. They
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probably don't actually do that, right? That's But that's the joke. That's the running joke for the last and in in
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fairness to Eddie and this is true in fairness to him and I had this on a a way smaller level than Van Halen, but in
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fair in fairness to Eddie, you've seen throughout history, they used to call Eric Clapton god. They would actually,
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you know, spray paint that all over London when Clapton came out and then Hendrickx came out and then he was God.
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And you've seen this with Stevie Rayvon and whoever. And Van Halen had that thing. He did some stuff that nobody
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else did. FYI, he didn't create tapping. Tapping was created long before Eddie Van Halen, but he gets credit for it.
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And when you are seen in some people's eyes as the greatest guitar player in the world,
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it can do a couple things. You can either meet the challenge head on and keep trying to progress or just or
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block out all the noise and just kind of keep doing what you're doing and and create good music and not and worry
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about that. Or what a lot of people do is they protect it by doing less. Because if you already did something
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that it's like Michael Jordan playing with the Bulls, you win three times in a row,
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you come back, you win three times in a row. You don't need to go to the Wizards.
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You could just hang it up forever and sit on the fact that you might be the greatest of all time and they can always
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argue that point. You you can you can look at so many Van Halen records and so many Van Halen solos, not just with Van
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Halen, but with with Michael Jackson, and argue that Eddie Van Halen is one of the greatest guitar players of all time.
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And I think he that's that's a very heavy weight to um to have on you. And I think he I think
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it has made him uh want to do less if that makes any sense. Um, like the less I do, the less
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I can be criticized for and but I already have enough stuff in the in the spectrum of rock legends that hey,
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there's my argument. I'm not going to make any more arguments. Does that make any sense? Mhm. Well, he also beat
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cancer. That takes up some of your time as well. Well, he said to cancer, "If you want to give me cancer again
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next time, you better be wearing a cup. [Music] [Applause]