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on April 18th 2016 45-year-old fitness instructor Missy bavers was brutally murdered inside the Creekside church
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located in mithian Texas in the early hours of the morning at the time she was getting preparations ready for her
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Fitness class this is called Camp Gladiator before before her students arrived at 5:00 a.m. in the morning
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that's when the students discovered her lifeless body her death was caused by puncture wounds to the head and chest as
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we said yesterday we we went over the video uh that that police had released the surveillance footage of the suspect
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dressed in tactical gear um this is where things became interesting because whomever this suspect is uh they had a
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very unorthodox and unnatural posture in stance especially when walking right which is called the gate on April 20th
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Missy's husband this is Brandon beavers gave a statement to reporters in which he talks about how proud he was of Missy
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and he really stresses to people that they should watch the surveillance video because of this gate that you discussed
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that somebody could know this person just by the way that they walk yeah and obviously at the initial investigation
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you know Brandon's going to be a suspect himself m I mean his wife is murdered um
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there was talks about possibly infidelity in their marriage possibly coming from him possibly coming from her
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and so jealousy there's your motive so Brandon is a likely suspect what's interesting here in this case though is
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one Brandon has an alibi and two and it's pretty tight Alibi when you do some research into it he was out of town on
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some trip and so there's the hotel uh receipts there's eyewitnesses there and then there's the car rental receipts and
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stuff like that M um and then we also had this surveillance footage and Brandon's clearly probably above 6 foot
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I'd say maybe 61 and this uh suspect that's on their surveillance tapee is maybe 52 to 57
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yeah um it was through search warrants that the police came across uh it would either be text or some form of messages
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that were found uh on Missy's information where they they learned that she had some kind of flirtatious
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relationship with another male or possible other males um after that was discovered uh police had what what one
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would call a break in the case because now you have this potential motive like you had said um I don't know that
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Brandon has spoke publicly about exactly what was going on in their relationship
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um but it sounds like he's been very forthcoming with police um and it it like you said it's sounds like there was
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some kind of relationship outside of the marriage now whether that was 10 years ago or if it was current we don't know
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well they have her information from Facebook so you have Facebook Messenger which is pretty much like text so
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there's probably some information there that they found on her phone but the other thing that that comes out later is
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there was some LinkedIn uh communication back and forth which was then turned over by the police
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and the police claimed that there was some flirtatious um conversations going back
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and forth with another male individual which they checked out and I think one of the reasons why Brandon hasn't been
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talking about this publicly but has been talking to law enforcement about it is cuz his kids are of the of the age that
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they could watch these interviews mhm and look he said look we all have problems with our marriage and we're
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trying to work through it right so that's where they're at and I think he doesn't especially in the death of their
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mother he doesn't want to put a dark light or any bad Twist on their Viewpoint of their mother Miss's husband
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Brandon beavers he gave a statement to reporters this was just 2 days after her murder and the original is quite lengthy
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but we're going to trim it down so we can listen into that statement what are you going through right now I today
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right now well I I don't want to do interviews okay I just want to make a statement is that all right tell us tell
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us what you want to say okay yeah I don't I don't I said hang on I'm having a problem with c yeah let him get
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and and y'all can y'all can funnel this up to the other media Outlets okay and I
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and I can be done with this right okay we appreciate you coming out we know it's got to be terribly difficult and
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we're really just hoping you'll speak from your heart about your wife and may we all just say we are sorry we are
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sorry for your family's loss I appreciate it I haven't uh I haven't had a whole lot of time to
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you know uh I haven't had a lot of time to be get emotional about this yet I've been
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dealing with the uh immediate needs of my children uh I mean this morning I've had
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some uh this morning I finally started thinking about the events that occurred yesterday morning
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and uh so you know I'm starting with that process today now the the the main the main purpose here today
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is uh solely to communicate to the people in the community and to uh everybody watching and
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listening uh my wife was a uh she was a Godly woman and she was a very uh uh she was very
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passionate about changing people's lives uh with Fitness and uh changing their mental attitude towards their body and
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themselves and their abilities in life and uh you know personally I I haven't involved myself in a lot of what she
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does but now that I'm seeing some of her campers uh I I've noticed a substantial
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impact that she's had on so many people's lives and I'm very proud of her and I I just want it to be publicly
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known that U we are very proud of of all the uh passion and effort that she's put
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in to so many people's lives as far as the uh the perpetrator we don't I don't know we still don't
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know who he is but I ask everybody out there to review the video I think you can get the video on
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the Midian Police Department's Facebook website uh look at the video uh the person has a very distinct walk
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uh there's just a very distinct uh manism about this person that should be very apparent to
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somebody okay I don't believe there was a vehicle there this perpetrator I don't
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know if he walked into the facility or if he got I don't we don't know how he arrived at the
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facility but I'm just hoping that somebody either saw something or some anybody can recognize
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the manorisms of this person on the video uh it's it's very important to us to get some closure with that and um but
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at the same time uh you know I want to uh definitely publicize uh that my wife was a uh she
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was a great woman a great uh a wife a great mother a great friend she will be missed by many people but
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please uh please be diligent as you can and and and review the video and Report anything
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to the middle oean police department and I appreciate your time okay thank you thank you I guess this is your last time
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you're not going to speak again after this is that correct this is what you I really don't I mean I I don't I don't
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want to uh in terms of you know in terms of obtaining a story to pull it heartstrings and stuff like
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that I don't I'm not looking here for the media to sensationalize uh a tragedy okay we my
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family needs uh we need our privacy and that's why I wanted to do this in one time only but we need our privacy I
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haven't had a lot of sleep um I haven't had a lot of one-on-one time with my children I just have some issues that I
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need to deal with on a personal level uh with my children I want to reach out to the camp
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Gladiator uh the campers that she mentored and I want to talk to those folks uh and and
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express uh you know my appreciation for their admiration of my wife okay you do understand sir that we are
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here because we want to help the police catch whoever did this as well yes yes the uh but as far as any you know
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one-on-one interview tug at the heart strings you know kind of stories sensationalized I I I just I'm not here
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for that I don't think any of us are trying to Sensational I mean this was a your wife was a mother and a woman who
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touched so many lives through her work correct you are correct and that's why I mean want to share her story and you
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know that better than anyone correct correct uh can you I mean just you knew her better than anyone the kind of woman
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she was the kind of mother she was well uh I mean she she was a very good mother she spent I I'll go a little
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further here uh when Missy uh before we had children Missy was a a a teacher public school
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teacher she worked with special needs children and she did that for about 2 years I could see uh I could see the
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amount of outpouring in her soul to help needy people okay and especially at that
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time it was special needs children and then we had children uh we she stayed at home raised our
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children and uh when she got back into the workforce or when time allowed her to uh do things for
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herself she found camp Gladiator and through raising our three children you know she transformed into a
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different physically person a mother she decided to become physically fit and for
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a 40 some odd year old mother of three she was uh very fit and uh transformed on an
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un imaginal level she was a her body pretty well sold her abilities and transforming and helping other other
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people and uh but she was very passionate about uh helping these people and I would uh I would catch some of her
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camper remarks on her Facebook page about how excited they were of the results that
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they've seen through her efforts and uh and uh I'm proud of her we're very proud of her she meant a lot
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of things to a lot of people what did she mean though to you as her husband well she was uh uh she was a
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companion um we enjoyed fishing uh we def we enjoyed going to the beach we spent a lot of time at the
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ocean um we we've been together for 20 years and uh over the 20 years you know our relationship evolved from this to
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that to this to that and and we've managed to keep it you know held together all this
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time um but at this P particular Venture in our lives it opened up an opportunity
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for her to do something that was gratifying to herself rather than raising a family constantly driving
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kids around and uh and she just like I said she the camp glad opportunity came up
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and uh she was so well loved can are you racking your brain to say who would want
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to hurt such a beautiful person yes I mean it's uh you know this world is full of evil people
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um I don't I don't know without going into any details that I've spoke with with law enforcement uh
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I mean yeah we're talking about a a senseless act here okay um did you look at the video to see if you saw anybody
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recognized anything about it the the the same video that I watched I watched on a
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continuous loop it's the same video that you guys have already had access to click anything for you it uh nothing
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clicks uh I can't tell if the person is a man or a woman uh the police estimate that he's about 6 foot tall this
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person's 6 foot tall uh but if you look at the manorisms of the person how they walk I mean
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there's something very distinctive there that somebody somebody has to be able to
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point this out it seems to baffle the police department like it baffles us as reporters and it baffles the
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investigation why someone would break into church wearing that wearing a tactical police paraphernalia does that
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baffle you too as someone who wants this wants Justice I don't I don't think I don't know there there's the
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there are some uh things that the police are looking into with respect to the timing of it and the and the timing the
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arrival of my wife uh the um the person wasn't in tactical gear that wasn't tactical gear that was uh a
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shoddy uh amount of clothing to look like some type of a an enforcement officer uh it wasn't tactical real
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Tactical clothing what did it look like to you uh well I mean from the video the
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best as best I could tell it looked like uh maybe motorcycle boots or some type of military style boot I couldn't tell
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the pants it looked like uh uh some kind of flimsy like sweatpants or something I
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I couldn't really tell but the jacket was just a generic police jacket uh kind of a vour looking police jacket and I
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couldn't even identify the helmet hel the person was wearing a helmet and I couldn't identify whether
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it was a motorcycle helmet I don't know if there is a I don't know if there's a motorcycle Avenue on that outfit or if
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it was a tactical Avenue because the helmet I couldn't even tell what it was do you think someone wanted to hurt
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Missy in particular or this was I do not know the answer to that she had posted on her Facebook that she was going to be
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there is that something that police have also looked into perhaps that they talk
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to you about well her the the date time and location of her camps are publicized
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they're known uh those are those times and schedules are already predetermined it definitely sets up an
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opportunity for the unknown to happen particularly since she arrives there early before anybody else does but if
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you look at the video and I don't know how much of the video the police has released
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but if you look at the video and from what I understand the perpetrator came through the back door okay and spent
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several minutes rumaging from room to room uh if I'm not mistaken he might have broke some glass in this
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room looking for something broke some glass in this room looking for something spent some time in the kitchen
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area uh but by the time my wife arrived I don't know of any the video at that point
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but according to the police shortly after um uh shortly after the altercation uh needless to say it's the opinion of
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the police department that uh the perpetrator didn't know the presence of my wife or or that she was going to be
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there I think my wife walked in on a uh robbery that's and that's just an opinion that's not fact
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um so you don't think she was targeted or like that she was particularly in and and it's in strictly
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my opinion I don't think she was targeted uh and and to the best of my knowledge when my wife
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arrived there was no other vehicle in the parking lot and uh otherwise it would have
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obviously drawn it you know my wife would have seen that uh so as far as I know and you have to confirm that with
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the police there was no other vehicles on the property but according to the timeline
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the person came into the building and left the crime scene before the other camper showed up so was there another
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vehicle or did they have uh cameras outside that could confirm that I don't know when was the last time you spoke
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with her and were you guys in the habit of maybe texting she go to these locations you know where where it would
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be dark and quiet as far as communicating prior to her camps no I mean she got there pretty early okay so
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you hadn't heard from her that morning no when would did you guys speak the night before and did you you say to her
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uh every day for the last uh every day for the last 10 months uh she has made it a point to text me at
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work that she loves me and have a good day honey um uh when I finally arrived in buuy uh
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around 7:30 which was later than I was supposed to be there you know I spoke to her and
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uh she said good night and it was still about 8:00 and I I called her anyway probably
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around 9 or 9:30 to tell her I love her and she was already half asleep and that's the last time I spoke to her that
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was on the phone that was on the phone well we trimmed it down but it was still somewhat lengthy yeah uh some highlights
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from that that I want to tou touch upon here Captain is he's talking about the investigation
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a little bit and that's where we hear him say that I don't know if he misspeaks or if he's just kind of
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telling us that they don't believe police don't believe for whatever reason that there was another car parked in the
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parking lot um I find that very interesting um at one point he says I've seen you know the same video that you
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have seen and then at another point he says I don't know how much of the footage the police have released and
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that makes me wonder if there is more footage out there there's definitely more footage out there right and um I'm
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curious to see what I would love to know what's on that footage it may just be more of the same um of walking around
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the halls and busting up uh doors and windows well I believe the actual attack is on on camera as well that could be
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the situation um but it sounds like they interviewed him extensively the police did and they showed him the video uh
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during this time this is now mind you this is just 2 days after her murder um he says that they believe the killer to
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be 6 foot tall we now know that to not be the case um and he constant you know there's much debate as to whether this
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is a man or a woman um and I and he says he a lot during this statement well he also States a couple falsities right the
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first one being that the police said well we think the suspect is 6 foot well once again that's before they did any
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you know checking on that any scientific you know measuring of the tape and measuring of the different Heights or
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whatever now they're saying well now it's 5257 so therefore immediately then you start going well what male is within
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that range MH um so he kind of misspoke there and then the other one was that they initially believed that that oh
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yeah that that this was just a burglary gone bad mhm and he now again 2 days after uh within a week after watching
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the tapes again he starts believing that no he it makes more sense that she was targeted yeah yeah he has said since
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this statement uh that he he has told police he strongly believes that the murderer is a female and someone that
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knew Missy in some form of her personal on a personal level um furthermore He suggests that this unidentified person
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attempted to make this tragedy look like a burglary gone wrong right which makes
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a lot of sense cuz there's evidence of that this person just opening up doors and breaking glass and not taking
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anything right and there's no you know we know that there was some trouble with the marriage like I said he says in this
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interview that he's been they've been together for about 20 20 years or over 20 years um now here's one thing that I
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would throw into question we don't know the timeline of the problems with the marriage obviously but if I think that
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if there was an affair on either end um if it were 10 years ago 15 years ago it's less likely to be to have anything
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to do with her murder um we don't know how recent they had marital problems well I mean there's there's something
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going on if she's uh inappropriately exchanging texts with male individuals but he says he says you
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know when asked did you speak to your wife or how often you know did you often trade text or anything like that he says
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something that's a little telling to me he says every day for the past 10 months
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my wife has text me while I'm at work and wishes me a good day and tells me that that she loves me it seems to me
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like something has happened more recent in their marriage I I do you get that feeling doesn't that sound almost like a
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you a make a make good situation like I got to make up for this I got caught doing something or I've done something
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wrong in the marriage and now I got she did yeah I got to make good or is this a
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demand you know sometimes when people are wronged they say you know you better tell me that you love me you better yeah
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right right but what I just said was who cares about 10 months ago I'm talking about the day of mhm an appropriate text
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message is found found on you know in her phone uh found it on social media found on other uh social connecting
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sites like LinkedIn right no I I agree with that and I and I I know of that I'm just saying that this appears to me that
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something occurred in the marriage roughly around that 10 month ago part uh uh and that that is a little interesting
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now one thing you had told me Captain regarding the husband Brandon you cannot fake height and he does not appear to
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be the height of 52 to 57 like you said I I'm thinking I look at him I see like 51 to 61 mhm um he did have an alibi as
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you said he was out of town he was out of the state I guess this was an annual fishing trip that he that he took um
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there they were able to confirm his Alibi uh so he doesn't seem to be a suspect in the sense that it was not him
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in the building right um and yes doesn't exclude him from hiring somebody right and yes they were having marital
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problems but that also doesn't mean that um you hire somebody to kill your wife um it's a possibility but yeah but even
00:31:00
though that this stuff is going on regardless she's still the mother of your three children right so I think the
00:31:06
next theory that the police started thinking about was if there was marital problems where there'd be somebody else
00:31:11
in the family that you know maybe he could hire or would help him out with this and people started focusing in on
00:31:19
Brandon's father this would be Missy's father-in-law yeah Randy Beaver so yeah I like this Captain let's let's pull the
00:31:25
circle out a little bit f here so a few days after the murder happened Miss's father-in-law Randy beavers he went to
00:31:33
the dry cleaners and he brought a woman's wait hold on I just want to say this is why you know the true you know
00:31:41
just real life is what do they say Stranger Than Fiction right right cuz you can't make this [ __ ] up when I was
00:31:46
reading this I'm like you got to be kidding me yeah he he took I guess four articles of clothing to the dry cleaners
00:31:53
and he got there in the early morning hours one of those items was a women's XXL longsleeve shirt uh this was a white
00:32:02
shirt I've heard it reported that it was quote unquote covered in blood I've also
00:32:08
heard it reported that it had blood spots on it or spots that appeared to be blood on it so whether it was covered or
00:32:16
spotted who knows but um one of the employees got a little weirded out by the items that he dropped off so they
00:32:24
contacted the police the police get a search warrant to collect these items well and also again it's such a small
00:32:30
town everybody knows what's going on yeah when the employee called the police they're like uh this guy brought in a
00:32:36
blood covered shirt uh his name is Randy beavers and by the way he's the father-in-law of of Missy beavers right
00:32:42
um so they collect these items um now Randy was pretty forthcoming about the shirt uh he told he told the employees
00:32:51
at the dry cleaner as well as later the police that the blood was from a chihuahua
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um I guess he and his wife Vicky have a little dog uh the dog was injured in some kind of dog fight um they may have
00:33:05
been watching another dog or for some reason there was another dog at their house uh the dog was injured I guess the
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dog unfortunately passed away uh because of this they took the dog to the vet um
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the vet later confirmed this story um but the the thing here is um they they were testing the shirt DNA um and I
00:33:29
think that this whole shirt thing checks out it just one of these strange weird coincidences that happens in these cases
00:33:36
but it's gotten a lot of people talking yeah well the the thought you didn't finish is that when they tested it it's
00:33:42
animal DNA it's not human DNA yes uh but more interesting though we have Randy the father-in-law it gets weirder folks
00:33:52
he well let me go ahead and throw this out for people who have not seen him he's roughly
00:33:57
the same height as the he looked he's shorter than his son which would might put him at that
00:34:04
5657 I can't say with 100% certainty but he's definitely shorter than maybe taller but again maybe maybe the the 52
00:34:13
to 5'7 is off a little bit maybe he's 5'9 but yeah he's he has a weird stance yes because there was a particular
00:34:20
broadcast that came out and in this broadcast the father-in-law was interviewed M um the first thing and I
00:34:27
watched this interview the first thing I noticed was his demeanor uh is strange to me now that I didn't find him that
00:34:35
strange really I he seemed to me like he was either nervous or a little confrontational with the with the with
00:34:44
the people interviewing him with the reporters yeah well your daughter-in-law was murdered and you have to go to the
00:34:51
drive cleaners with bloody clothes mhm this is you know yeah it checks out it's it's animal DNA not human DNA but you
00:35:00
know where this is going to head you know you know what's going to happen with the media and the media has ruined
00:35:05
people's lives that's true that's true um so maybe he's just a weird dude though too maybe he's uncomfortable in
00:35:13
front of uh cameras uncomfortable in front of reporters well yeah most people would be I'm I look I'm going on record
00:35:19
and saying I thought his behavior was strange um but what what also occurred during that broadcast is after he's done
00:35:27
speaking with reporters he walks into a building now this might be the police department it looks like some kind of
00:35:33
government type building uhhuh he walks into this building and he's got a strange walk um strange gate yes and
00:35:41
it's some people have said it's identical to how the person was walking in the video other people say that it's
00:35:47
similar well I will say it's similar I'm not going to say it's identical I actually think it's a little different
00:35:53
to me it's not so much him walking back into the police station it's him walking
00:35:59
out and his toes are pointed out a little bit his toes are pointed out walks a little bit like a duck but the
00:36:04
other thing about it too is his right foot seems a little you know like there's something wrong with it yep and
00:36:11
it also seems like uh when he has to shift his weight that he has to almost catch his balance like he has to regroup
00:36:17
his balance and you see that time and time again in the surveillance footage so again I'll have the original
00:36:23
surveillance footage up on the website I'll actually put the comparison of the two on the website as well so you
00:36:29
can check that out so the with the father-in-law he what is his story well apparently he was out of the state of
00:36:37
Texas as well um at the same time surprise yeah he was I guess he was in California with his wife and the dog
00:36:44
that ended up getting killed in that dog fight um so he was in California they say his Alibi checks out um actually in
00:36:53
a press conference the Midlothian assistant chief Chief this is Kevin Johnson told reporters that despite
00:37:00
social media rumors no one in Missy's family friends or co-workers are considered suspects right uh he said
00:37:07
that Missy's husband and father-in-law uh specifically had been very forthcoming and Cooperative in the
00:37:14
investigation both men supplied aliis that had been verified by police Johnson also said that any names that had been
00:37:21
released in any search warrants were also not considered suspects at the time of this press conference well and what's
00:37:28
interesting here is the police made these statements saying hey we don't think that we're we're basically
00:37:34
clearing the family mhm and then Brandon comes out and says this is Missy's husband comes out and says look can
00:37:42
clear people all you want but we shouldn't be clear everybody should still be a suspect until you have
00:37:48
somebody that you have evidence on everybody still a suspect and I like that thinking mhm and so yeah this does
00:37:56
this alab by check out yeah but look look the gate is weird that's that that's the thing that bothers me is when
00:38:02
you watch the video side by side you start just you just get the same Vibe but again like we talked about when
00:38:09
we're dissecting the video there's some moments in the film where the guy looks a little chubby looks like maybe he has
00:38:16
a little bit of a beer belly mhm but then there's other moments in the footage where it's like I don't think
00:38:21
that's a beer belly right so um and I I don't want to throw this guy under the bus because again you know watch the
00:38:28
video compare it for yourself but what I find very interesting and and a lot of friends that I know that have watched
00:38:34
this video is like it's him it's got to be him well again the the aliis check out and also I want to applaud him for
00:38:41
being so forthcoming and so uh you know he's been exactly like his son as far as
00:38:47
questionings go the other thing that Brandon's doing that I think is amazing is he'll just be sitting around because
00:38:54
this is shaking up up his whole world right and he'll just be sitting around thinking about something or maybe a
00:39:01
person or some weird time that maybe didn't make sense to him and he calls the police up yeah and says hey uh this
00:39:09
might not be nothing uh and what he made statements later saying uh pretty much every time I
00:39:15
call the police and I think of something they've already went down that rabbit hole mhm so but I want to applaud him
00:39:22
for that the other thing too uh some people have said Brandon is suspicious because he says well I'm not going to do
00:39:28
any interviews and you pointed out a good reason why he wouldn't do that that's probably for the sake of his
00:39:33
children um and that doesn't mean that he's not fully cooperating you as you pointed out he's fully cooperating with
00:39:41
the police but he's anytime he's approached by reporters he speaks to them um and at length yes and I've also
00:39:50
heard other reporters state that you know what I reached out to this guy and he said I don't I won't do an interview
00:39:56
interview but if you have any questions email me I'll send you the answers or if
00:40:00
you you know you want to give me a phone call I'll do a phone call so he's not he's not tucking his tail and hiding
00:40:05
from anybody right um he's he's being upfront about everything and unfortunately he's thrown into a
00:40:12
situation that I don't think he had anything to do with or anybody that he knows probably didn't have anything to
00:40:19
do with it and now his whole life and his whole marriage has gone under the microscope and he's had to deal with
00:40:25
that while trying to grieve for his his murdered wife and help his children through this very tough time I do want
00:40:34
to talk about what this police chief said the assistant chief said regarding that people named in search warrants
00:40:41
were also not considered suspects at the time of that press conf yeah but that's
00:40:45
just political you know politically correct [ __ ] to say well it is and and just because no one's considered a
00:40:51
suspect does not mean that they are cleared right um there's a difference between the two and a lot of times
00:40:57
police don't name a suspect until they slap cuffs on the person right um but the reason why I bring that up was
00:41:04
because early in this investigation there were several people I believe it was seven or eight people that were
00:41:10
listed by name in a search warrant because they were collecting their cell phone records um and these are people
00:41:17
pretty close to Missy some of them uh one of them was her husband of course and her father-in-law and his wife as
00:41:25
well um that leads us to the next thing the next thing in this case you know we said
00:41:31
there was more surveillance footage well this was not from the church this was from a place across the street this is
00:41:37
the swfa sporting goods store um which is I would say roughly it's a it's kind of diagonal
00:41:47
from the uh from the church itself you can see the church from their parking lot um but that on the night that she
00:41:55
wasur murdered at approximately 2: a.m. uh police released a photograph of a vehicle and this is thought to be a 2010
00:42:06
or 11 or 12 silver or light in color Nissan Ultima um this vehicle pulls into the parking lot of the sporting goods
00:42:16
store it's very strange because they released a photograph of it originally now I'm not certain if the police
00:42:23
released the full video or if it was the Sporting Goods store that released the full video I'm not for sure who released
00:42:29
it first I've heard both um but originally they just released the picture of the back of the car in hopes
00:42:36
that somebody could identify the car more specifically there was a um a decal or a sticker that was located below the
00:42:48
driver's below the license plate and it was kind of oval in shape they were hoping that maybe somebody could point
00:42:55
out where that came from uh what what that sticker would be maybe somebody would
00:43:00
recognize it later the video comes out of the car pulling in to the parking lot mhm okay so the car pulls in off of the
00:43:08
highway or off of the street there into the sporting goods store and the first thing that they do is they cut their
00:43:14
lights yeah suspicious yes but it's also super late at night too I mean well it's
00:43:20
technically early in the morning but this is on a Sunday going into that Monday so it's Monday at 2: a.m. mhm
00:43:27
it's like it's dark and raining I would want my lights on well what are you doing out right anyways so there are
00:43:34
some theories about who this could have been um that maybe it was a drunk driver
00:43:39
that pulled over for a little bit maybe it was somebody that was pulling in off of the uh Street there to look at their
00:43:46
their phone or a map uh maybe they were lost but cutting the lights seems very strange to me cuz they don't cut the
00:43:53
lights like once they get to a parking spot they cut the lights as soon as they turn into the sporting goods store then
00:43:59
furthermore they they drive around the store and eventually back out but the problem here is Captain when they go to
00:44:06
the back of the store there are two vehicles parked back there m and when they see the other vehicles they turn on
00:44:12
their lights again almost like oh [ __ ] there's somebody back here I better turn
00:44:16
on my lights so I don't look suspicious exactly my friend now police are saying that they don't believe that the vehicle
00:44:24
is belongs to the killer oh yeah but these police I mean they keep on they're just covering their own ass right ex
00:44:32
like uh yeah we don't believe it there's no reason to believe this person's a suspect like yes this person is in the
00:44:39
vicinity of these murders within hours of the murders taking place uh this person is a suspect M period MH let's
00:44:48
let's find out who this individual is and let's water board them let me ask you this Captain um so this driver has
00:44:57
not come forward um a lot of people have heard about this case well why would you
00:45:01
come forward if you're the murderer well that's what I'm saying uh what about what about this is there a chance that
00:45:09
that the driver of that vehicle which I firmly believe is connected to this murder um it's just too much of a
00:45:17
coincidence in my opinion could could he or she whoever drove that vehicle did they bust out that window at the church
00:45:25
building drive off you can see the church from this location you go over there for a
00:45:32
little bit and see if police are going to respond to the Breakin to test to see if there was some
00:45:38
kind of alarm yeah which makes your theory make a lot more sense um but again I I believe this individual knew
00:45:47
the building if if the person if the person went there to kill her they knew about the building they knew about the
00:45:56
not have an alarm system possibly knowing that they didn't have surveillance either like outside of outside and
00:46:06
knowing that there's surveillance inside therefore I need to have my face covered
00:46:11
right I can see I can see that um it doesn't sway my opinion any I I don't know that I believe that the person had
00:46:18
much knowledge of this building other than that they knew that Missy would be there um one thing that's strange too
00:46:26
and this was later in the interview I don't I don't think it was in the portion that we showed uh but we have we
00:46:34
have the father speaking I'm sorry her husband speaking and he says that she was involved in multiple camps he calls
00:46:41
them camps these fitness camps right uh there was one that one of the daughters did attend with Missy this would not be
00:46:49
one of those she never went to this early 500 a.m. one of course 500 a.m. so I also wondered did the would the killer
00:46:56
have known this in advance that uh that she would be alone is what I'm saying right but and again back to my point if
00:47:03
she knows this much about if she I keep on you know Freud and slip you know I think it's possibly a female okay and
00:47:14
but I keep saying she so but I think this individual would know if she knew that much about Missy she would know
00:47:21
that much about that building okay let me throw let's let's get on that subject right now you said you believe you see a
00:47:28
woman in the surveillance footage I mean I see a booty at some point so I mean but you know it could be a guy when when
00:47:35
I first saw it the first few times I watched it I did see a woman and then there's that weird part when when the
00:47:42
suspect stands still and to the side when you see the side of this person I see a man um and I want to throw I'm
00:47:51
going to throw out some other theories that I've heard from people because I've showed this video to other people cuz I
00:47:56
wanted to get their opinion what maybe they could see something I'm not seeing or can you at least see if it's a man or
00:48:02
a woman the strange thing is just about every man that I showed it to thinks it's a woman and just about every woman
00:48:10
that I show it to thinks it's a man well that's the opposite all my all my female
00:48:14
friends instantly I didn't even say I didn't even ask them if it was a man or a woman mhm they just watched it and I
00:48:21
think it was 3 for three within minutes or not within minutes Within of them starting the video they're like that's a
00:48:28
woman the one we're also talking about if that evidence is factually correct 5'2 to 57 it's more likely that it is a
00:48:36
female right and and I think the difficult thing about this case is if there was infidelity then we'd assume
00:48:43
that that's the motive whether it's you know um let's say Missy was hooking up with one of her clients and the client's
00:48:52
wife got mad or the client's girlfriend got got mad and then went after her mhm and I think that's what's so frustrating
00:48:59
is they have all this information they have her Facebook you know they have the interactions with these
00:49:05
individuals so we have a bunch of evidence this should be solved and I think it's not that simple I think it's
00:49:12
some weird um type of motive that they haven't found the trail yet I think you're exactly right and I tell you why
00:49:23
I think that whoever did this is just enough outside of her Circle that they they can't link it they can't connect it
00:49:31
I don't or no or is so heavily in the circle but they can't see the motive mhm and look I'm just going to put this out
00:49:40
there I mean I've done a lot of CrossFit classes and and spin classes but I haven't been like totally end drenched
00:49:47
into that world mhm but I have a lot of friends that uh that are trainers and stuff and I know that in every gym
00:49:54
there's some weird drama stuff that goes on yeah and I would just assume that there was some of that and it could be a
00:50:03
simple as here's this you know here's this mother of three that got in shape you know put the time and the effort in
00:50:11
and maybe this individual couldn't or didn't have the willpower to do so and was jealous of that maybe she got more
00:50:19
attention maybe she was upset that you know she gets all this attention and she's married and and and maybe this
00:50:26
person wasn't married and couldn't get attention that that uh Missy was getting from guys mhm so I think there was some
00:50:33
other motive going on that's a possibility my theory on this case is I don't give a [ __ ] about your well you're
00:50:42
going to hear I'm just joking um I just if I sound mad we were talking about this on the beer break
00:50:50
somebody uh messaged me the other day said uh West Memphis 3 you sound mad I'm like yeah that's cuz
00:50:56
there's always a murder we're talking about there's no reason there's never a good reason to kill somebody and we're
00:51:01
constantly talking about people getting killed and on top of it not knowing who's responsible right um so it does
00:51:08
get frustrating at times my theory is there's a connection to the City of Austin in this case and I think that
00:51:18
that it's just enough outside of her Circle that they've had trouble connecting it and maybe they were a lot
00:51:25
of people in Austin when Missy was there let me give you a little story on this so Missy was in the city of Austin for
00:51:33
at least an overnight stay possible two nights uh in 3 days I'm I'm a little unclear as to which it was but she was
00:51:41
there for at least one night um then she returns to Midlothian then she's murdered it's
00:51:48
pretty quickly after she returns that she's murdered I believe the very next morning who was she with when she was
00:51:53
killed it was one of these Fitness things um I don't know if it was a camp that she was attending it sounds to me
00:52:00
like it was some kind of convention or some kind of Fitness Camp that she was attending not that she was teaching um
00:52:06
she went there by herself I can't find any evidence eyewitnesses that she ever showed up cuz I mean look if somebody's
00:52:15
you know Unfaithful in their relationships they come up with a crazy amount of stories M so they can go
00:52:22
places you for example you know you can't tell your husband uh hey uh well I'm going to go well wife wouldn't talk
00:52:31
like that anyways but you can't say hey I'm going to go to Austin to um go out drinking right and to get laid in a
00:52:39
hotel you can't tell your husband that so you'd have to say well there's this Fitness convention and go gotta go get
00:52:46
to that you know I I don't know I don't know if this was confirmed that she was actually there I believe that she was
00:52:54
there um I the every report that I found it doesn't seem to be questionable if she was there um I think that possibly
00:53:04
she was there for more than one reason I think she was there to attend this thing
00:53:10
and either one of two things possibly happened either she met somebody there and they had some kind of brief
00:53:19
relationship or she might have been going there and to break something off as well very um and if that's the case
00:53:28
that's why I just feel like there's some kind of Austin connection here I think somebody could have drove in from from
00:53:34
out of town they could have not known much about that building other than knew that she would be there that morning I
00:53:40
think they tested the building to see if it had an alarm they watched from someplace and then went back to the
00:53:47
building to wait for her I'm un I'm unclear I'm still wondering about the the the driver you know about where this
00:53:55
person put their car I think that they probably parked somewhere and arrived on foot um I I wouldn't think they would
00:54:03
have parked too far away because they needed to get out of there quickly after well this individual had a hard time
00:54:10
walking anyway my other thought on Here's my thought on the walk I wonder if the walk is not real if it's not a
00:54:18
real thing and maybe that's hindered this case somehow because everybody believes well the killer had to have had
00:54:23
this funny walk look I think you know again like I said 52 to 57 maybe it's some crazy bat that
00:54:30
watch every date line and every Oxygen Channel show and thought you know what uh this uh little blonde hussy is
00:54:38
sleeping with my man and I'm going to show her and and put on a size 10 boot mhm put on her husband's boots instead
00:54:47
of you know her own and that's that's hard to walk in have you ever seen a little kid put on big shoes and start
00:54:52
walking it's very unnatural so I I don't think that it's a fictitious walk in the
00:54:59
the way that the suspect would be doing it on purpose right but but that's why I
00:55:05
think it looks natural right but because of the parts of it being uh choosing of
00:55:11
a bigger boot or whatever oh now I walk a little funny it's it's also possible that it could be the opposite it could
00:55:17
be tighter boots MH so I mean trust me I've had some times where I've went to weddings with tight shoes on I mean my
00:55:25
dance moves didn't look so good they didn't look so natural it kind of looked like I had a bum
00:55:29
leg uh that was a scenario that you came up within your mind you were not calling
00:55:34
the victim a hussy right no I'm saying that the person that murdered him would have thought that
00:55:41
right and I wanted to point that out so nobody think you're being insensitive look I mean first of all I'm just
00:55:47
angered by you know America in general as far as it goes with marriages and and that's a whole different show but
00:55:55
infidelity and cheating on people I think is an awful horrible thing that people do to each other and it's
00:56:01
normally just to get some attention and I think that's uh pretty shallow so as far as all the infidelity rumors that
00:56:09
makes me upset but also I know for a fact that uh and and from the statements that her husband made um she was trying
00:56:19
to do a good thing she she taught kids with disabilities that's that's somebody that's not worth about the money they're
00:56:26
trying to make a difference in the world I applaud that and then on top of that one of the things that people you know
00:56:32
depression and all this stuff one of the ways to fight that is to get active lose
00:56:37
some weight and and and it there's so many more mental benefits of exercising than maybe even physical ones so I
00:56:45
really applaud her on that so as much as I don't like the infidelity stuff it seems like she was somebody that was
00:56:50
trying to make a difference in other people's lives and how can you not respect that yeah well and nobody's
00:56:55
perfect either so um we you know speak for yourself so but here I want to expand on something here Captain
00:57:04
regarding this walk I wonder if it's if it's hindering this investigation because that I wonder if this person
00:57:10
doesn't truly have this weird walk and like you said it looks natural because it was natural in that moment at in
00:57:19
those maybe boots that are too big there's actually a um one of her family members put some letters to the killer
00:57:27
on their Facebook page M uh and in one of the lines this family member says are you are you shaking in your boots that
00:57:35
are too big for you um you know so I wonder if that's something that on the inside the people close the case have
00:57:41
always felt or maybe they no they might know the other thing is remember I kept saying that I believe this person had
00:57:48
some kind of utility Bell or that we see the person put the pry bar in on a belt
00:57:55
or in their pocket if I'm walking in boots that are too big for me or even the right size if I got a pry bar in my
00:58:02
pocket that's going to affect my walk a little bit as well who knows what other sharp or heavy objects this person has
00:58:10
in those pant Pockets yeah I mean this this is just frustrating in general I do want to throw out something weird here
00:58:18
because I I don't want to get accused of missing anything cuz it just be it wouldn't be you if you would say
00:58:23
something weird and you had mentioned uh some activity on LinkedIn uh there was um this came from
00:58:33
a friend of Missy's she told police that Less Than 3 days before her murder Missy
00:58:39
had received a creepy LinkedIn message from a man that was unknown to the both of them um I I I don't know what they
00:58:48
can do with this information um well well yeah there was the creepy message but there was also a message uh there
00:58:53
was flirting that was going back and forth between another individual now they have since questioned that
00:58:59
individual but I don't know if there is any um more evidence or any more knowledge of who this cre you know quote
00:59:08
unquote creepy individual was no I don't I think that's still unknown as is the driver of that vehicle that was seen on
00:59:16
surveillance camera well it's really hard to see in that surveillance footage of the car was there only one person or
00:59:22
two people mhm you see in in the vehicle I can't um I know I've heard people uh you know staring at and watching that
00:59:32
video over and over again to see if they can see anything uh sometimes that just
00:59:37
plays tricks on your mind I'm a little guilty of that I I did that myself um but I think I think that car is
00:59:43
definitely connected to this case somehow well this is again like I said very similar to the Brandon Lawson case
00:59:50
and the fact that once you start hearing the Brandon Lawson tape then I'm going one call you think that you can solve it
00:59:57
and when you start seeing this surveillance footage you start thinking maybe there's something that I can pick
01:00:01
apart yeah maybe I can see something that nobody else saw and this is this is a frustrating case and uh hopefully we
01:00:09
get some more answers and we're able to update this later mhm yeah I like in this case to the deli murders case where
01:00:15
there's there's just enough video footage there's just enough imagery that you sit here and you wonder why this is
01:00:21
not solved and it it angers you even more more to know that there's this evidence out there and it's not
01:00:28
currently LED anywhere well and I would I would assume that releasing some of this footage has led to some um rabbit
01:00:37
holes and stuff like that and you know I think law enforcement needs to sometimes
01:00:43
go hey we there's been nothing happening for a year we need to release more stuff
01:00:47
maybe we can get a bite somewhere else yeah release some type of information so we we have a better clue of to what
01:00:54
actually took place and I also hope that they're vetting everybody from that Austin visit that she was involved in
01:01:01
yeah I haven't heard much about that and that's something now I'll have to dive into I think this is going to be a case
01:01:07
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