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[Music] crime well now here is the twist in this True Crime Story as promised now as we
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continue to think about and examine The Disappearance of 17-year-old Belinda van
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lith let's explore these other options and how police arrived at the idea that somebody else could be involved remember
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we talked about Dwayne Cornwell the owner of the home that she was housesitting they looked at him for a
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period of time it seems like again the notes in the case File say that he was cleared we are uncertain on what they
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basee that off of I'll tell you this Captain there are notes and there's information in large parts of this
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investigation many years later that will Circle back to Dwayne Cornwell but for now we need to get to someone who is
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often referred to as the main suspect or potentially the main suspect in The Disappearance of Belinda van lith and
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when we say main sus supect that is in large part in the eyes of the public but it also sounds like this opinion is
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shared by many of those persons in law enforcement that have worked this case over the years because six months
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approximately six months after Belinda vanished the detectives would be hit with a Twist in the case this is from
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December of 1974 and and we are now going to introduce a man his name is Timothy Crosby Timothy Joseph Crosby if
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you want to look him up online Timothy Joseph Crosby was roughly Belinda's age he was slightly older than Belinda but
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he comes into play by a crime that he's going to commit a very serious serious and dangerous crime but also for the
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fact that his parents cabin is reported to be approximately 100 yards from the Cornwell residence where Belinda was
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staying so in December of 1974 this Timothy Crosby some reports put his age at 18 some put him at 19 in December of
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1974 but regardless he's a young man just a little bit older than Belinda van lith living near the Cornwell residence
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he is a arrested for kidnapping and rape the victim here is a young woman and her
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information that she's giving to police is that when she was kidnapped by Timothy Crosby he took her back
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to the Eagle Lake cabin where he lives now the young woman who would Escape tells detectives that she believed that
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Timothy Crosby was planning on killing her she tells police that she believes that Timothy Crosby not only kidnapped
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and sexually assaulted her and threatening to kill her but she saying I believe he planned this this wasn't
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something that he just you know spur of the moment victim of opportunity she's saying that she believes that he went
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out looking for a victim so the portions of the story that we have the details of
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go something like this so she manages to escape from the clutches of Timothy Crosby Law
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Enforcement then locates him in his vehicle they find a gun a hunting knife a butcher knife rope handcuffs and they
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find women's clothing this is all indicative of a rape Andor kill kit that somebody would drive around with this is
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not something out of the ordinary when we talk about these very violent sist types what comes to mind obviously here
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is a Ted Bundy type that's driving around with these these instruments of rape and murder in his vehicle in his
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possession on his person at most times should he encounter a potential victim or see an
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opportunity so the detectives they begin to explore this possibility that a neighbor Timothy Crosby could have been
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involved in The Disappearance of Belinda right before they're saying we have no signs of Foul Play and then they're like
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wait a second look at this dude and what he's accused of and how close he is in proximity to our missing person yeah
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Timothy is a real piece of [ __ ] the other problem for Timothy Crosby and what I think is a very interesting part
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of this investigation and the timeline that we didn't include yesterday is it's already in the police
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report that Timothy Crosby told investigators this is days just days after Belinda went missing you know when
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they're out interviewing people they're talking to people I want everybody to be
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clear here though while they're looking for Belinda for a couple of days after she goes missing and talking to people
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nearby talking to people that knew her they're not searching the lake they're also not going into homes and searching
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Homes at this time however they do have have notes on a conversation that was taken between them detectives and this
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Timothy Crosby so he tells investigators that oh she she visited my home on Friday June 14th 1974 so this would be
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approximately the day before she goes missing less than 24 hours before she's on counted for yeah so not only is his
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parents house close to the cabin she's watching he has now some kind of contact or interaction with our missing person
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he's also responsible for kidnapping and raping somebody this this is a no-brainer and I think it goes it's a
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long it goes a long way for our speculation and the theory that suggests that he's involved in The Disappearance
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of Belinda that this victim's opinion and the investigator seemingly the investig Ator opinion of this attack
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that took place 6 months after she went missing that it it all seems very premeditated it's planned out and he has
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everything that he needs to carry this out now was murder going to be involved with this victim here we can only go off
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of her statement of her saying that at one point during this attack and while he was attacking and torturing her that
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he had had told her at some point that he was going to kill her now we have investigators looking at this guy and
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they have already in their notes that he says that Belinda came to his home on Friday June 14th 1974 less than 24 hours
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before it's believed that she went missing the Vault podcast made I think a brilliant observation here and they did
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a couple things that were very interesting too to I believe further this investigation and expand on the
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level of of what we would be willing to all agree upon that that suggests that maybe Timothy Crosby is the person
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responsible for Belinda's disappearance so they interview Timothy Crosby decades
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later this is an exclusive interview to my knowledge they are the only people that he spoke to regarding her being
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missing and him being a suspect in the case right and it's a recorded interview so we know the words are his words this
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is not somebody saying oh he told us this this is his words and what his statement to them was well I don't
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remember seeing Belinda he also says that he didn't know who she was that doesn't seem completely crazy because we
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have the vanli family saying that well she was house sitting for somebody that we didn't know either so he says I don't
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I didn't really know who she was and I did not tell police that I saw her the day before she went missing he says
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again decades later what I told police was that I remember someone coming to the house and asking for my sister and
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my sister wasn't home at the time I told this person that and she left the interesting tidbit here Captain is very
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quickly the good people at the Vault podcast they point out to him to his face they say look you can say that
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today you can spin it that way today but the notes what's in the police file says
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that you told police days later that it was Belinda that came to your house right not not somebody so he's not 100%
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denying it even all of these years later he's simply denying that he said the name Belinda but for whatever reason
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that's what is recorded in the police file The Vault people this is a brilliant observation he says to them
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whoever came to the house asked for my sister because there was going to be some kind of party that weekend and I
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think the person wanted my sister to attend the party with them it stands to reason that if it was Belinda that
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dropped by the house asked for his sister and she's not there she's talking about the going away party right they
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point out that look if she wanted her friend or somebody she knew her associate which happens to be Crosby's
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sister to attend the party with her then it stands the reason that she may have return the following day to ask again if
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she was there now let this we have several persons from the neighborhood that are saying that they were aware
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that Timothy Crosby was Home Alone that weekend that parents are gone sisters gone now let this play out in your head
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if if he is this horrible guy as the the the crime of kidnapping and sexual assault would paint him to be rightfully
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paint him to be in December of 1974 then what if he says you know what she comes back the following day now
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he's had some time to make some preparations he says oh yeah she's she's home my sister's home come on in and now
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she's in the house with Crosby and Crosby's residence alone this now gives you the scene to possibly explain when
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she was attacked when she was kidnapped and why we are not seeing obvious signs of Foul Play at the home
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that she was house sitting and also that the cabin is very close so you don't need to take a bunch of items with you
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you might not even need to shut the door right if you're just running next door to to say hey uh remember remember
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there's that party tonight I want you to go with me and and what do we know about
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these [ __ ] stain dick faces they like to commit crimes if they're married and their wife goes away with the kids great
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opportunity to to commit a crime same goes with somebody that lives with their parents all my parents are gone for the
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weekend here's a great time for for me to try to commit a crime yeah this is this scenario gives him the opportunity
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and if it plays out the way that it possibly did where she did return the next day or let's say somehow he figures
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out remember we pointed out yesterday that based off of statements of other persons that knew Belinda there were
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people outside of her family that knew she was housesitting and knew that she was likely alone in that house so
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whether she came back or not which I think that she did and that's maybe when he saw his opportunity to strike but
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either way he had an opportunity to prepare for it and wait for her if she were to come back or prepare for it and
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then go and take her from the house that she was house sitting this part gets very strange because the way that it's
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reported we talked about some of the items that they found in his vehicle and because he took the victim back to his
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home in this December 1974 attack they're going to search his home they get a search warrant and they they're
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not permitted to just walk in they have to get an actual warrant to carry out this search of the home and while there
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they they recover some literature on rape and murder now this could be just as simple as these were true crime books
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right um but it's noted that these are items that they found and confiscated it's been reported that there was
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literature on how to dispose of a body or how to conceal a body well we have to remember this is
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1974 so we're not going to be able to do a internet search history on this piece
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of [ __ ] one part that will be problematic for amongst others for Crosby is one of those ways of disposing
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of a body from this literature was to bury the body using manure it's been I I want
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to be clear here on this because it's been reported a couple different ways but we have persons who later are
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telling police oh wait a second on Sunday June 16th we remember seeing Timothy coming
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home in his car in his vehicle that he owns covered in mud now other Reports say that oh we remember him coming home
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in his vehicle and it appeared to have been covered in manure which if that was the case then
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that seems in highly suspicious given that They confiscated material literature that's that talks about
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burying people in manure for the purpose of getting away with it so so this piece
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of [ __ ] is driving a piece of [ __ ] mobile but also this Lake it's I think it's roughly what 36 Acres of of Lake
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yeah it's not small so that gives you plenty of areas that probably are not common place
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for people to go that you could find a spot to bury a body pretty easily the people that say that they saw his
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vehicle covered in mud or covered in manure or what have you they report that they were led to believe by Timothy that
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he got his vehicle stuck in a nearby field and that was the explanation he gave for whatever was covering his and
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found on his car from my understanding here Captain he does get charged in this particular case he does receive um some
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punishment but it's it's never enough right when when if if he intended on killing this individual and I have no
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reason to believe that he didn't if he ended if he was going to kill her and he premeditated this this is to me we're
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talking about a budding serial killer he's he's reading about it he's studying about it he's collecting items to carry
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out these attacks and these murders he's going out looking for victims and if he's responsible for Belinda's
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disappearance and then later this attack uh he may already have one murder under
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his belt by the time he's attacking this woman 6 months after Belinda disappears
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well and one of the things that we were talking about off the mic is I was telling you that in the Long Island
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serial case that Rex has been charged with two more counts of murder but also one of the things that they found in his
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house was a copy of mine hunter by John Douglas and in that book he has all these
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notes on basically how to commit how to commit a crime and get away with it how to commit a murder and get away with it
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and even has notes on this is what I did in this one murder case and I need to make sure I don't make that mistake
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again yeah there are some of these types that are smart enough to study the persons that did these things
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before them and I know in several cases where they are saying I'm not just studying prior serial
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killers I'm studying to find out what got them caught right or what complicated the investigation for law
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enforcement and how they you know what worked what did how were they able to successfully get away with it and what
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also got them caught and so they're some of these types are smart enough that it's not a trial by fire situation for
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them because you get caught once you're likely locked up for good or maybe you get the death penalty this is a
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situation where it's they go into it studying up and knowing what potentially would work and what potentially won't so
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now is that's the big twist right now is where we present the monster to you the
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listener and then have to examine the mystery of when did he start to perpetrate his string of
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horrible crimes and how many victims do we have just what exactly is this individual responsible for and how many
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has he hurt along the way yeah but these sick bastards no matter how much studying they do
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the urges are too strong anybody in their right mind would go hey let's not kidnap and rape and murder The Girl Next
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Door you see what I'm saying because there's a direct connection to me but I think what we can't understand and what
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we'll never be able to understand is the intensity of these urges that they have
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well and he's able to talk his way into getting some not severe punishment for this attack in
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1974 and then he reoffends again in the early 80s and this was a this was a really
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smart and brave victim here he had a woman in his car who would later tell police that he threatened to kill her he
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had assaulted her he was transporting her somewhere for what purpose we do not know but he's transporting her somewhere
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and she's telling police later like he the the car door was rigged in such a manner that you you could use the latch
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on the inside to get out but law enforcement double checked this and they're like it does work on occasion
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but it's incredibly difficult to make the door open the passenger side door and we've seen Edmond keer you know
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outfitted his vehicle so that persons other than himself couldn't get out we know that Ted Bundy did he he he took
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out the the passenger seat in his vehicle so it' be easier to transport a body or to conceal someone on the
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floorboards while transporting them so this is again another commonality with these types and so she's saying I I
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couldn't get out of the car so listen to this maneuver this is how smart she is she when they're driving she said he
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didn't seem to know where he was going right like he's driving then he backtracks makes turns that don't really
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make any sense and she said that she spotted a police car and so she's like you know what I'm
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going to do I'm going to make him wreck his car in in eyesight of this police officer smart move and she's successful
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doing this and then when the cop comes up now he's going you know what happened she's explaining it to him and but the
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problem here is again he gets charged with some some lesser charges than what he was probably intending to do th this
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is this is one where we have some very detailed information so now we're going to go to 1987 we are in St Paul
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Minnesota this is not far from where Belinda vanished not far from where this Timothy Crosby grew up but it's 1987 the
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population in St Paul at the time is roughly a little more than 270,000 people I was going to say good
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hardworking people but as we know we quickly will see one of the St Paul residents is not a good person at all
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that would be Timothy Crosby so it's right around midnight on Friday in so it's right around midnight on a Friday
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in July 1987 we had have a young woman aged 21 she's standing on a street corner in St Paul when a vehicle pulls
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up to the curb in front of her the car was a common one nothing remarkable about it the
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driver is a white male in his early 30s he rolls down the driver's side car window and tells the woman that it's
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still pretty warm out for the Midnight Hour the young woman approaches the car the two chat briefly before she agrees
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to get into the vehicle now the man the driver will later be identified as Timothy Crosby once inside the vehicle
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the two agree to some arrangements $30 is the deal and they were heading back to his
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apartment they arrive at his place after about 10 minutes of driving they pull up
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and walk inside he grabs a couple of beers from the fridge she makes herself comfortable on the couch it doesn't take
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long for them to both make good on their agreement after she asked him sorry afterwards she asked him if he would
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give her a ride she wants to go home it's late and she's tired and walking was not going to work for
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her the man Timothy did not give her an answer it said he stood up stepped towards her and faster than she could
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react to it he puts his hands on her throat he's strong and he's squeezing she tried tried to stand up but she
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couldn't he's too strong then the corners of her eyes went black and then all of a sudden everything it all went
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black later she wakes with no idea of how long she's been out for she's awake but she couldn't see her arms her legs
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are tied down there's duct tape over her eyes and mouth and he's on top of her he's hurting her again now she must have
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been tied up for a couple of hours when eventually [Music] he he either let her up and it sounds
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like he removes like the tape covering her eyes he unties her legs then unties her
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arms he tells her to stand up and turn around then he tied her hands behind her back this time he's using wire that's
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digging into her skin so he leaves the room and this young woman wasted no time at all she fell onto her back on top of
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the bed raises her knees to her chest and with all of her might she thrust her both of her feet forward kicking out the
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window in front of her this cutting her feet and legs so she jumps out of I believe this was a ground level
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apartment but she she jumps out of this window screaming and yelling she ran hands tied behind her back into the
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parking lot within seconds there's two men out there working on a car they come to her Aid pull her into their apartment
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they call the police they call the paramedics and this abducted woman this poor woman easily identified her attacker
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because the apartment her attacker lived in that apartment it belonged to him the man was
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31-year-old Timothy Joseph Crosby he was arrested in charged with criminal sexual
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back in the front and the sides to the windows to the walls cheers Colonel cheers we talked about the premeditation
00:33:25
or suspected premeditation in the 1974 attack carried out by Timothy Joseph Crosby let's talk about the
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premeditation in this attack so it was determined that he held and tortured this woman for 16 hours and if anybody
00:33:43
were to try to tell me that he was not going to kill her I would tell you you are wrong now how do how and why would I
00:33:53
believe that this was premeditated the window that she kicked out she couldn't open the window yeah her her arms are
00:34:01
tied behind her back but had they not been the police discovered this window had been nailed shut so he's got a
00:34:08
bedroom window that's nailed shut I guess you could argue it was for security purposes I would argue he's
00:34:13
trying to keep somebody in rather than keep people out and what would back up this argument is he had taped
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cardboard all around this window so unless he did that in the brief time that she was unconscious he
00:34:30
had done that prior to going out and picking up a sex worker and returning her to his apartment yeah I think your
00:34:38
gut feeling is the same as mine this guy is thinking about these things fantasizing about these things planning
00:34:45
these things and taking preparations I think this is proof that he's making preparations in order to commit these
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crimes and he's not denying right I mean he would be foolish to try to deny he she points to his apartment say this is
00:35:00
what happened to me and this is who did it and that that's where it took place he doesn't fully deny it but he he does
00:35:06
alter the story quite a bit when he's talking with police he's saying look we her and I had a relationship right and
00:35:15
we get back to my apartment and she she threatened me she says I'm going to scream rape if you don't give me some
00:35:22
money and a ride and we got into a physical altercation so he's not he's not not saying he didn't do any
00:35:29
wrongdoing he's just saying I didn't do what she said that I did I wouldn't believe this guy police didn't believe
00:35:36
this guy the courts didn't believe him and clearly he's not he doesn't he's not going to put up too much of a fight
00:35:43
because he eventually will plead guilty and unfortunately he also works out a plea
00:35:49
agreement in the situation so he gets some of the charges dropped he pleads guilty to to being a douche
00:35:58
some charges in October of that year again we are now in 1987 he has offended once that we know of on record and
00:36:07
reoffended multiple times on record for this yeah with the plea agreement he only gets 41 months in prison so not
00:36:17
good Bob it's not not not a great situation no but the but also with this kind of planning in this
00:36:26
level you you have to say on some level because of the planning and preparation there's some level of sophistication and
00:36:33
also he seems pretty comfortable talking to police and lying to police and lying
00:36:38
to everybody I W I wouldn't be surprised if there is a slew of other victims oh yeah exactly and what we're going to see
00:36:48
here Captain is the inability to directly tie him to murder victims but then constantly reoffending when these
00:36:58
women were lucky enough to escape smart enough and lucky enough to escape so let's go to Mid August of 1994 so we're
00:37:10
actually in a different County now St Paul uh is in Ramsey County we've already discussed Wright County a little
00:37:17
bit so we are two counties away from Ramsey County we're back in Wright County in fact to be even more specific
00:37:26
we are in silver Creek Township of Wright County Minnesota and this is always Beyond strange and quite gross as
00:37:35
well but we've reviewed other cases similar what was meant to be a nice day turned out to be rather tragic and
00:37:41
frightening this when a dog retrieved human remains this was a right foot and leg that was cut below the knee this was
00:37:51
found in a swamp area in Silver Creek Township Minnesota this according to reports was the third discovery of its
00:37:59
kind in about a year's time period so in the fall of 1993 to the summer of 94 Wright County Sheriff at the time was
00:38:08
Don hosena hosen what said that the discovery could be linked to the September 1993 disappearance of
00:38:16
31-year-old Martha bacon Martha was from Minneapolis and had an arrest record that included prostitution now as to the
00:38:26
other disc recoveries in October of 1993 so after this poor woman went missing dogs from the area dragged home a hand
00:38:36
and a forearm that was later confirmed to belong to Martha bacon and then they dragged home her arm and leg bones a few
00:38:44
days later this is the farmlands area in Northern Wright County this is where we
00:38:51
have swamps that edge up close to gravel Country Roads the sheriff tells reporters that it would be easy for
00:39:00
someone to Simply fling human body parts from the roadside into a watery grave adding that the person who did this was
00:39:09
probably a former resident a hunter or traveler who was familiar with the area and this area is basically the area west
00:39:17
of montelo according to the sheriff okay he says former resident Hunter traveler
00:39:24
someone who is familiar with the area that leaves a whole lot of people a whole lot of possibilities but it does
00:39:29
not exclude rpos that we've been talking about today Timothy Crosby as we know and we already discussed lived and grew
00:39:39
up in re County but even though this is a separate Discovery we we still believe
00:39:43
that this is the same victim yes and that's what the sheriff was saying at the time he's like we it would make
00:39:50
sense that unfortunately that we're just now recovering more of the same victim he does go to clarify that this the
00:39:59
third of discovery of its kind was a mile approximately a mile and a half from the
00:40:06
others but he does go on to say that this discovery is different and better for their investigation because in the
00:40:13
other cases the other two cases when the dogs came home with remains they were simply out running wild and returned
00:40:21
they had no idea where or how far the dogs could have ventured and then brought that back right
00:40:27
here he's saying it's quite different because this dog was with its owner and the owner was a hunter they were walking
00:40:36
the area together when the dog made the discovery the unfortunate part though too for the investigation
00:40:44
and in all parts of this in fact is on all three occasions they did put together a team of dozens of people to
00:40:52
search the immediate area where the remains were recovered or or brought to a location and all three of those searches
00:41:01
turned up nothing the sheriff stated that their reports were that Martha bacon was last seen around 1:00 a.m.
00:41:09
September 27th or 28th 1993 on a North Minneapolis Street Martha was not married she had no children authorities
00:41:18
have openly speculated that she was killed by a customer so we're talking about a situation where th this is a
00:41:28
murder that no one has ever been able to confirm that Timothy Crosby is responsible for but what they're what
00:41:37
they're saying is they think that he's these ideas these plans these schemes this desire to rape and murder and
00:41:47
abduct women has never left him right and he was in the area and they're starting to say that look we we have a
00:41:58
problem here and a lot of us collectively are saying the problem is Timothy Crosby that information was from
00:42:05
August of 1994 in October of the same year the body of an unidentified woman was found
00:42:13
in Frankfurt Township then the following month after that in 1994 November of 94
00:42:19
we have Wright County investigators who were meeting with several detectives from the Twin Cities and they're talking
00:42:26
of setting up a task Force this is because Wright County has those two murders Martha bacon and the
00:42:32
unidentified woman and then we have the organization this Victim Advocacy group titled whisper whisper is a or was at
00:42:41
the time a Twin Cities advocacy group that works for women involved in sex related
00:42:46
businesses and they were working very hard at the latter part of 1994 and had been doing so for about 24
00:42:56
months trying to warned people about a possible serial killer active serial serial killer in the area that they
00:43:03
believed was targeting female sex workers the group released the names of eight women eight women this including
00:43:11
Martha bacon and the unidentified woman but these women were all killed since 1992 who all had a history of sex work
00:43:21
now like Martha some of these other victims had been dismembered but the law enforcement agencies in
00:43:29
communication with the media at the time they did go on to add that there was no
00:43:36
common method of there was no common method used in the killings now if we're finding portions of victims dismembered
00:43:47
victims isn't that a method well that's definitely a method but also it's it would be very difficult to say well a
00:43:54
gun was used in all of these or strangulation was used and all of these so I I think that's what they're they're
00:44:00
hinting at but what what I would say is I you in in some of these cases you likely could not determine what killed
00:44:07
them I want to be clear here too we're not saying and Whisper was not saying and the authorities weren't saying back
00:44:13
in 1994 that they believe Timothy Crosby to be responsible for all eight of these
00:44:18
murders right they weren't even saying that they believe you know but but it's as it sits today in
00:44:24
2024 yeah there's a lot of people that believe he is responsible for a portion of those eight that we just discussed
00:44:32
he's definitely capable of it well and let's okay let's go down the road of like you said right now he's he's
00:44:40
changing he's adapting his victimology and how he selects a victim with some of these
00:44:50
victims and some of them smart smart ones that were lucky enough to get away he's unsuccessful that they because they
00:44:58
escape if if in fact his plan was to murder them but those but those ones we know for sure he is the perpetrator of
00:45:06
those very horrible violent sexual crimes right and so to me it's like he knows that he can get
00:45:15
the woman in his car because of their working at the time but also it seems very Silence of the Lamb's like
00:45:27
right remember when when Hannibal Lecter tells chice that the pattern of the victims where they're found where he
00:45:39
might be acquiring the victims seems random and and Lecter even says it seems desperately random and when they review
00:45:48
the victims in that fictitious case they go well it seems a little random because
00:45:54
the first victim taken was actually the Third third victim found because that was the only one that he weighed down he
00:46:03
the Jame gum Buffalo Bill went to further lengths and efforts to conceal that body that he did not do in the
00:46:12
other murders the later murders what did we learn about that fictitious character
00:46:18
was that he killed what he coveted what do you covet you CET what you see every day this is almost like it it's almost
00:46:26
playing that scenario out in real life if in fact Crosby is responsible for The Disappearance of Belinda he he saw that
00:46:37
he saw that victim close to him where he grew up where he lived he couldn't like
00:46:42
you said earlier couldn't resist the urge even though it added a different risk factor to his
00:46:50
crimes and that might be that might be his very first one well it makes sense I think with his age as as well but I I
00:46:58
wonder if there's some kind of maybe part of his fantasy is I'm going to give them opportunities to get away from me
00:47:08
maybe that's part of the fantasy who knows because there there's just yeah like you said there's a handful that
00:47:16
have got away and the ones that got away we know exactly who's responsible for those crimes yeah there were um it looks
00:47:25
like three or maybe four That Got Away so I guess some could make the the argument of well he was unsuccessful if
00:47:32
he were to be a serial killer he he would have been unsuccessful in those cases so maybe he never maybe he's not
00:47:39
responsible for Belinda and maybe maybe he never carried out never actually killed um we do know that he remains
00:47:47
thankfully he's locked up still to this day uh because and we'll backtrack here in a minute but in 2009 The District
00:47:56
Court committed Timothy Crosby indeterminately as a sexually dangerous person and sexual psychopath personality
00:48:05
predicated on a finding that Timothy Crosby re-engaged in a cycle of sexual misconduct this is over and over and
00:48:14
over again going back to six months after Belinda went missing and then every time he's busted they're finding
00:48:22
in his possession literature videos images depicting Behavior consistent with his prior his own prior violent
00:48:33
sexually sexual behavior so they're basically saying like like what John Douglas told us when we interviewed John
00:48:41
Douglas a while back when he said the worst of the worst you know you cannot rehabilitate somebody who's never been
00:48:49
habilitated in the first place and so a person like this who just keeps reoffending and he keeps carrying out
00:48:57
very similar very violent crimes all every victim saying he was going to kill me ultimate [ __ ] bag this guy's just
00:49:04
going to keep keep doing it so the system in Minnesota creates this this I I I'm not
00:49:11
going to call it a loophole but creates this standard of hey you reoffend you reoffend you reoffend you do X Y and Z
00:49:18
and we're going to figure out a way to keep your ass off the streets for good because nobody's safe there's not a
00:49:23
woman not a female safe in the area if this this guy is out walking around ass off the streets that's going to be one
00:49:31
of my slogans when I when I run for president ass off the streets and look there's other information that we just
00:49:39
didn't have time to get into there's other attempts at assaults there's other assaults there's other victims that have
00:49:47
been named over the years that many people think that he is responsible for persons that were killed and again he
00:49:56
everything thing we can see about this guy is he's reenacting and has so many shared
00:50:05
characteristics and tactics of people that we've reviewed that have killed three four five a dozen
00:50:13
different women it's I I'm just thankful that he is locked up now let's keep in mind when when they busted him in six
00:50:21
months after Belinda went missing for that attack I think that one misstep they found women's female clothing yeah
00:50:30
in his possession a misstep there was they didn't show that clothing to Belinda's family to ask could it have
00:50:37
belonged to another victim instead these items were returned to his family as they were his possessions these might be
00:50:46
you might have found these items in his possession but they may be evidence of Prior crimes rapes or murders or
00:50:53
kidnappings and the big problem with blinda case is we don't have answers we have a pretty good idea of who's
00:51:01
responsible for her going missing but unless look this is just my opinion unless they
00:51:09
somehow discover her body or somehow you know piece of [ __ ] Timothy when he's in
00:51:16
jail decides to confess to the crime and and and give some kind of details it's it's one of those cases where it feels
00:51:25
closed but it's not closed yeah well and keep in mind too so we talked about those eight murders and we talked about
00:51:34
the good work that the advocacy group whisper was carrying out trying to warn everybody in the area for two years that
00:51:41
they believe these eight missing or murdered women may have all Fallen prey to the to a serial killer that was
00:51:51
hunting female sex workers in the yeah do the math right like he he gets his 41 months
00:51:59
sentence at the end of 1987 well these murders start taking place in 1992 he's out he's out at this time and
00:52:12
he's not out for very long and again I think that Cycles back to something you were talking about prior that we do not
00:52:21
understand the urge and the power of that urge that these guys seem to get that some of them get
00:52:30
and so he's out he knows the consequences he absolutely knows the consequences because he's been caught
00:52:37
and locked up before yeah but he's of the type he cannot stop himself and I think a large part of that is because
00:52:45
the sex the murder the rape it's that's all a part of it for him some of these women look that he's picking up he could
00:52:52
have paid money and they probably would have agreed to stay willingly with him for a night or a weekend but that's not
00:52:59
what he was after he's just trying to get somebody in his car so he can he can do so he can rape murder torture yeah
00:53:08
that's what he is about and Belinda's case unfortunately all these years later remains an open
00:53:17
case they're still looking for If he if in fact he did use manure I look I I know that when uh
00:53:27
and Back to the Future with Marty McFly when he when he vandalized Biff's car Biff
00:53:33
immediately was able to tell that it was manure and not mud or dirt uh again some
00:53:39
of the reports are are people stating that they saw manure they thought manure was on covering his car after Belinda
00:53:47
disappeared this is just Days Later others saying that it was dirt or mud so I don't know how what we could base that
00:53:55
off of but if it was in fact manure that's is highly suggestive of him carrying sex successfully carrying out a
00:54:04
crime that he was studying for based off of the literature and the items that were found in his home recovered from
00:54:11
his home in from his vehicle and manure would speed up rapidly speed up the decomposition process people use it for
00:54:22
it could be used for farming or for for gardening but people that have knowledge
00:54:27
of manure know that you you don't want to try to grow something in manure right away it needs time to break down it
00:54:34
needs to be mixed with things the the gases that it releases will burn the roots of of what you try to plant in
00:54:45
it and the plants will die so that whole process would certainly speed up the decomposition if one was
00:54:53
trying to bury and conceal body there could be people out there that have more knowledge about Belinda's
00:55:02
case again it's still an open case we're coming up on 50 years there's also people out there that
00:55:10
that might know more about Timothy Crosby and he could have victims here that we did not discuss this week in
00:55:19
True Crime garage look there could be other victims that got away and just weren't able to identify
00:55:26
him exactly or because of their lifestyle at the time were not comfortable going to
00:55:33
police police want this information we need to fill in this guy's timeline because if he is if he's
00:55:41
outside of prison if this dude is breathing he's a danger a big threat to society anyone with any information
00:55:49
about Belinda van lit's disappearance or about the life and crime of Timothy Crosby we ask that you call the Wright
00:56:02
County Sheriff's Office and we have two phone numbers here for you one is 763 682-7879 or call
00:56:11
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00:56:57
Forum news service worked with the vanlith family reviewing all 1,200 pages of the Belinda vanlith police file and
00:57:07
conducted an exclusive interview with the main suspect in the case the investigation reveals the details in a
00:57:14
thorough yet stalled investigation that spanned decades and included multiple investigative agencies search warrants
00:57:21
detailed interviews and land excavations again that's the vault podcast and that's in partnership with the
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