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Monday December 21st 1992 the start of a new week not just any week but the work
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week leading up to Christmas inside christe Merrick's sixth grade classroom her students awaited her arrival now she
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was the type of teacher that would bring gifts to make the Christmas special for
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them unfortunately she would never make it out of her front door someone brutally attacked this young woman and
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left her lifeless body inside her town house police were notified and arrived on the scene very quickly the scene was
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processed evidence was collected and the investigation started The Usual Suspects
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were all interviewed and All Leads were followed but all were dead ends as said in the first episode what we found in
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the reports it looks like initially three men were considered to be suspects by the police but of those three the
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fact is all three of the investigators initial suspects were absolved because they were tested and in all
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cases found that their DNA did not match the DNA evidence found at the crime scene one very strange thing here that
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I'm sure the community was struggling with at the time of her murder because this was such a safe Community this is
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an area where murders just don't happen that often now I did check back over the
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last 15 years and the rate of violent crime in Lancaster county is higher than the national average but that's all
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relative because the murder rate is quite low right they only average like four or five murders a year in the
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county in the last 15 years more specifically this Township where the murder of Christy Merck took place the
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crime rate is quite quite low violent crime is almost 46% lower than the national average and in 2017 and so far
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in this year in 2018 the murder rate is zero so a strange thing for this community back then a young woman well a
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girl this is 16-year-old Lorie show she was found murdered inside her home one year and a day before Christy Merrick
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was discovered murdered in her home so Lori show was found on December 20th 1991 Christy Merrick discovered December
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21st 1992 in the same Township so forget about County we're talking about the same Township here two young women found
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one year apart murdered inside their homes there was reason there was reason for the the public to think these might
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be connected yeah sometimes we see this with serial killers where they will kill
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almost on an anniversary of another killing and the strange thing here for the public you know by this time by the
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time of Christy Merrick's murder they had in fact made an arrest in the previous murder the year before in Lorie
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Show's case but for the community when when there's Doubt cast upon that arrest that's made you have a community that is
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not used to experiencing murder and so when a young woman 25 years of age is found killed in her town home and then
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you go wait this seems familiar oh yeah one year ago this happened to a 16-year-old girl and she was found
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murdered inside her home right so this is a very strange thing for this Township this community these people to
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go through now now we would later learn because of an arrest made in Lorie Show's case and and later convictions
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that took place that this would not in fact be connected law enforcement did receive a
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good deal of help from the community as far as cooperation and tips that turned to leads that they were followed up on
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but the tips that once inundated the police in the weeks after the homicide of Christy Merrick well that slowed with
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the passage of time law enforcement would not give up on solving this case however proof of such they U the antee
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and they asked the FBI for their help the FBI behavior analyst unit in quano Virginia stepped in and they worked up a
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profile of the killer christe's case received National media attention and Lieutenant Renee Schuler the lead
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detective on The Merck case participated in an intensive 11-week training course
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at the FBI Academy in quanico this took place in 1995 so let's review what the FBI and Lieutenant Schuler had come up
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with this is the killer profile it is believed that this attack and murder is the work of a single individual one man
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acting alone possibly 25 to 35 years old at the time of the murder this man had knowledge that at about 7 a.m. on Monday
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December 2th first Christy Merrick would be alone getting ready for school in her
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townhouse the murderer is described as someone who wouldn't stand out in a crowd he is an observer not the center
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of attention or the life of a party he probably had not killed before but might have committed date rape he likely went
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into a rage when Christie either rejected him or wouldn't stop resisting him this was a huge case and even bigger
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investigation over, 1500 interviews were conducted and by 1995 forensic testing would exclude 60 suspects so 60 men
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suspected tested and not a match to the evidence collected at the murder scene mhm then in 2002 another very sad part
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to this story to this by 2002 now Cold Case christe's mother Jerry is dying from cancer and she makes a deathbed
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plea in the newspaper for new information in the case Jerry and The Merck family spoke with the I believe it
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was called either the Lancaster News or the Lancaster newspaper but since the murder in late
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1992 so for over 25 years by this date this newspaper has covered this case every bit of it and they have done a
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very thorough and excellent job by the way covering christe's case Jerry told the paper that she feared that she would
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die before the 10-year anniversary of of her daughter's Murder She feared that she would die never knowing the truth
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now we know how important these big anniversaries can be for a case and for an investigation and you had referenced
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earlier the with the death of with the murders of two individuals that we later learned are not connected being killed
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almost one year apart right how these anniversaries can mean something either to the uh perpetrator of these crimes it
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also gets people talking in the community one of the reasons why we try to highlight different cases especially
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around the time that they took place is that people start talking again and and sometimes it's as simple as somebody
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overheard something at a party 5 years after the murder that could be the break that law enforcement needs yeah we'll
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highlight a case and we'll show it to you know and remind everybody in the garage about it but locally on the local
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level people start seeing news you know news reports report Gatherings and it reminds the it reminds
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the masses that this is not solved you know when we when we met with that group and spoke at the crime and Corruption
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event on Saturday they one of the questions we were asked was what are the general
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misconceptions you see with some of the cases that you cover and our answer was that sometimes people think that there
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is a conclusion to a case and there has not been right you know you even on a local level somebody disappears or
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they're murdered 10 20 years go by and people just start to assume that it has been solved yeah during this interview
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Jerry told the newspaper that her family was pretty much convinced that Christy knew her killer that she had opened the
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door for someone she knew or even maybe someone she was expecting to see that morning Jerry was fighting her third
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bout with cancer breast cancer that eventually metastasized to her brain Jerry said in the interview that she
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wanted wanted to know who who and why and fighting through the tears she added quote was she that terrible a person
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that they had to kill her they very sad to read through this interview with with
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Christy's mother yeah her death didn't have anything to do with her personality or her character it had everything to do
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with the animal that killed her's character yeah the monster that killed her and I think that's what you hear
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like when when I when I read this I almost heard her mother Jerry saying it to me or as if I were in the room and
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her fighting through the tears and saying was she that terrible of a person that they had to kill her meaning I've
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gone nine years since my my daughter's been murdered and I have no answers and I I and I've been searching for these
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for nine years and now I'm at the end right and I have no answers and I don't know what to say about this because it
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makes no sense The Merck family Al also discussed their frustrations with the investigation not being able to produce
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the Killer by this point Jerry's husband and Christy's father Vincent Merck said
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we did whatever they asked us to do we assumed they told us everything we needed to know we didn't talk we didn't
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say nothing to nobody the last thing we wanted to do was to jeopardize the case right and in this investigation it's
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tough because it seems like the investigators and law enforcement and even media is doing everything that they
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can and actually you know they're they're not coming up with the answers but they're checking things off the list
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I mean if you test you know what0 60 something 6 zero people yeah that's a lot of seen um but you test that many
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people and you cross them off the list yes you don't have um the evidence is still funneling towards the truth mhm
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and Vincent said as of this article that we're referencing that that's from 2002 that at that time at that time he
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saw things differently saying quote nice people finish last Christy's sister said
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I didn't get the feeling they were used to dealing with these kinds of things meaning murder investigation right now
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her brother said that they had so many changes of hands down there referencing the police department stating every time
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you talk to them somebody different was handling the case police response to the
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family statements and a good one in my opinion Lieutenant Schuler who was the original investigator who who had been
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working the case since the beginning said that she understands the family's frustrations and their doubts but assure
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them and the public that the investigators have been diligent in gathering evidence and working to solve
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this crime this case has been on every police officer's mind in this County and Lieutenant Schuler takes this personally
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officers stated that although investigators have changed people get older move to new positions and retire
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that does not change the continuity right and the officers took this opportunity to remind the public that
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they will work this case until it is solved they believed that it can be solved and reminded the public for their
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continued help with the case adding we are not on an island we need phone calls and letters to continue and I say
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captain to these investigators God bless them right do you see you see what they
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did here Captain they they handled it exactly exactly how I have said investigators should handle questions
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and the media attention in regards to an open case these people are brilliant I tell you you go out there and you say
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we're working the case very hard we still have some leads we are still collecting evidence we still need the
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Public's help we believe this can be solved that's how you address the public and that we're getting closer that we
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feel like we're getting closer not only because that that puts the pressure on them but you know and but you know the
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family is going to have some Kickback after so many years and I I understand why they're frustrated but you know I
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think their frustration went probably towards the wrong people sadly on November 4th 2002 this just a couple
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months after the newspaper article that we just discussed Mrs Jerry Merrick just
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not just 59 years old died at her home in shimoken death came just one day after CHR would have celebrated her 35th
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time to time well here's the thing Captain regarding Christy Merrick in the open investigation into her murder her
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family does something that is absolutely brilliant and it's it's it's following the advice of all the experts I've ever
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spoken to all the experts that I've ever seen on TV or read about they all all say the same thing if a loved one of
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yours is murdered or missing do your very best no matter how long no matter how many people you have to remind do
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not let the case fade from the public eye keep it out in front of the public and remind them that your loved one
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needs Justice or needs to be found and Christy Merrick's brother Vince in 2007 he puts up a couple Billboards uh
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regarding his sister's murder ask asking for tips telling the public hey this is
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a cold case and we need your help so applaud Vince there for his efforts and working on his sister's case that's a
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good brother in 2009 Vince takes it a step further and he starts a Facebook page for his sister Christie's murder
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and the investigation that followed now we would start to see some traction on this thing okay remember this when
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when back when the crime was committed there was there was DNA that was collected and
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when those samples were first tested they were put into a criminal database but at that time this was in 1993 when
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they were placed into the database at that time there was no match right the perpetrator had no record he was not on
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file for anything and this would be the case for many many years now in 2016 Mar case was transferred to the
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district attorney in Lancaster Pennsylvania DNA left at the scene was sent to a new lab which created a DNA
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phenotype composite of the of the Killer's attributes this including hair color eye color skin tone we've seen
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this with the April Tinsley case it's almost like that we get an eyewitness composite sketch without there being an
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eyewitness yeah the the phenotype report included visual composits of what the killer would look like at various ages
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and these were released to the public in November of 2017 I think we've not referenc this as
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the phenotype composite in the past when we discussed this but it's the lay term
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is what something like snapshot DNA or snapshot uh identification based off of DNA so the Breakthrough came when the
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DA's office started working with parabon nanolabs a DNA technology company to perform genetic testing on DNA samples
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collected from the crime scene in 1992 basically they submitted a DNA profile that was found on the carpet underneath
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of our victim right the da pointed out at this time because what you do is you submit this stuff and then you kind of
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have to just sit back and wait to see what they come up with so the DNA pointed out to the public that although
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this process has been used in other cases throughout the country it had not been used to solve a homicide in pen P
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Sylvania now parabon nanolabs uploaded the mer suspect DNA to an open-source genetic DNA database called GED match
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GED match shows the amount of shared DNA between two people and allowed parabon to find distant cousins of the suspect
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so then they build family trees and then suggest a suspect's name to law enforcement that's very similar to like
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what they did with the Golden State killer as well it's actually the ex the exact same thing so they're exactly
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right they're exactly right and it's performed by the exact same company so God bless this this parabon Nano labs
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and hopefully I'm saying their name right because they are doing God's work I'm sure you're saying their name
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exactly right and if the if the drinking game word is exactly um this episode then U we got a
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lot of drunk listeners authorities would not say which relative of the suspect LED them to him but the suspect they
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came up with well his name is Raymond row M the district attorney said that row had lived only a few miles from
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where the victim lived at the time of the murder in fact he lived approximately four miles away he would
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have been 24 years old at the time of christe's murder so he's one year younger than than Christie herself
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correct um this guy was not like the profile would suggest who was somebody just another person in the prow this was
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somebody that actually enjoyed some of the spotlight most of his adult life he went by DJ freeze was his stage name uh
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someone who performed he I guess he started off as like a break dancer in the early 80s but I think everybody was
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a break dancer in the early 80s uh and he started DJing shortly after he soon became a popular house party DJ by the
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mid 80s after winning some local DJ battles and then in the early early 90s he he started DJing clubs and some of
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these were rather big nightclubs with dance parties with people like five six 700 guest through the door yeah he he
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looks like a real jackass though right yes yes he certainly does in 1997 he opened up a DJ Pro retail store called
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the 12 spot selling DJ equipment records CDs and clothing then he launched his DJ
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School based out of his retail store so this is somebody that spent a lot of years building this career as a DJ uh
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he's also created this retail store and now he's training and teaching others to
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go into the business as well the thing is though he's a POS right Captain he's one big POS
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because his DNA matches the DNA that was found on our murder victim and on the carpet that was found underneath of her
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body body right and we kind of told you how they ran the DNA through a system so
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then we can get to having a suspect and yes his DNA matched but how did they get
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his DNA because that's pretty interesting okay so right although parabon Labs played a crucial role in
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finding the suspect for this case for this murder investigation yeah starting by finding the relatives and then
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finding the suspect yeah well parabon saying hey law enforcement this is your guy this is not that's not enough on its
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own because investigators have to be sure that Raymond row is in fact their guy so officers from the Pennsylvania
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State Police they went undercover at an elementary school function where row was
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playing music he was working as a DJ there must have been some short cops on May on May 31st of this year May 31st
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2018 authorities observed row with a water bottle and chewing gum and obtained them when he threw them in the
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trash they they took these items they T it be better if he threw it on the ground that son of a [ __ ] was littering
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and we just picked up the gum but he had to you know he was thrown in the trash he threw it in the well the the exact
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report says he abandoned them no he probably threw him on the ground the sick son of a [ __ ] which means one of
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two things he he threw him in a trash can or he put the gum in the empty water bottle and left it on the table where he
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was performing work and just you know just left it there so I think he put it on the ground they took these items that
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he had abandoned quote abandoned uh and tested them for DNA of the against that of the suspect's profile it was
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confirmed that the DNA from those items the gum and the water bottle matched the
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Sean sample on the carpet and the samples that were found on Merck's body the odds of this being a match 1 in 200
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octillion now I went to school for a computer so I do not know how big of a number octillion is MH I'm guessing
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that's what like 200 followed by eight zeros I have no idea somebody will let us know somebody will let us
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know how big of a number that is um the world's population is like seven and a half to maybe eight billion people
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octillion I can tell you this I do know octillion is much bigger than than a billion more than more people on Earth
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and Mars and Pluto combin correct so row was he was never a suspect at the time of the initial investigation and I
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couldn't find anything to suggest that he was in fact the suspect at any time during the investigation yeah but he
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knew her right you have to assume that you have to to assume that because it I think what where the profile was right
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and where and this was something that you know police knew this I think they knew this before they asked the FBI for
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additional help the the statement in the profile where it says it was a single individual acting alone that knew that
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somehow knew Christy Merck would be alone at 7 a.m. on that December morning inside her townhouse that to me is the
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number one factor inside that profile yeah well this guy lives like we said four miles away he's a DJ he's roughly
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the same age so if she goes to any clubs he knows who she is 16,000 people in this community I live in a a pretty
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small town I'd say about 45 50,000 people and there's a couple hole in the- wall bars I go there I know everybody
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right doesn't matter which hole in the wall bar I pretty much know everybody if you if you go to the hull and wall bars
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a couple times you pretty much know everybody that goes to them yeah so this guy he's been arrested less than two
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months ago so what I'm curious to see is what's going to come out about him and the connection to Christie right you
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know what what are we going to learn at the trial and now okay so Raymond row was arrested at his home and he's
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charged with criminal homicide now keep this in mind captain we're talking about
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is he married uh I don't know if he was married at the time of his um arrest but
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what I do have here in my notes that he's been divorced three times oh real winner uh he also does not have much of
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a criminal history he's probably like it was it was all their faults and maybe the the most surprising thing to me
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anyway was that he was still living in Lancaster at the time MH you know sometimes these people move far away
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yeah so here's what I want to know is how did this guy that we don't see an obvious connection to our victim how did
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how is the profile right in the fact that he knew she was alone inside of that home by herself well that's what
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I'm saying I think I think the direct connection is that he DJs at clubs and he probably saw
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her and she's attractive female and followed her home or or knew her through the clubs I
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mean she might have enjoyed dancing you know I was I was married to a a lady that enjoyed dancing so what does she do
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when you go to the club she tells the DJ what she wants to hear so she can dance
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to it right then she kind of gets to know the DJ a little bit probably same thing happened here you know or the
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group of girls knew the DJ I mean this guy is a douche wagon for sure but he you know he's not a badl looking
00:31:50
gentleman I shouldn't even call him gentleman he's not a badl looking douchebag but so I just think think you
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got this um a very small town probably not a lot to do and you probably knew the local DJ if you went out she was 25
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years old I get that what I'm saying is for the for this crime to have been carried out in the way that it was MH
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that this individual had to know specific knowledge about the victim MH meaning he knew she was home alone at
00:32:25
that time that when she when he for whatever reason that he approached her well he might have been a creep and and
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stalked her that's what I was asking you if you thought maybe he had followed her
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home uh watched her got to know her routine or could it be something a you know maybe not first thought but maybe
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did he know the roommate and then and and some kind of turn knew christe's movements through that so I'm curious to
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see how it's going to come out and what will come of it of how this perpetrator VI victim relationship was not to
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suggest that they had a relationship but what how did he know her and how did he
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know her movements also curious to know if he turns out to be the man that the neighbors said that they saw on the day
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of the crime right can we figure I couldn't find out what kind of car this guy was driving at the time of the
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murder I just said douche wagon cuz we have a description of that vehicle 1991 douche wagon well and given what he did
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to Christie and regarding what we know about this crime and this murder you have to wonder first of all you have to
00:33:36
wonder has he ever raped other women oh yeah and like we said you know probably date rape I mean he's in
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the you know he's put in himself he's probably a Serial date rapist uh that that I'm going to put money on that
00:33:56
right now I'm just going to go on a limb or could just be a rapist May has nothing to do with with
00:34:01
dating no no but that's I think you're getting that confused cuz what I'm saying is he's a DJ in a club and look
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even if you're feeding he might get drinks for free right gets paid a little bit of money get some drinks for free
00:34:15
hey if you're feeding a girl too many drinks that's a form of Date Rape right so I think this guy was put in this guy
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is a creepo he has serious issues and he was put himself in situations over and over
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and I guarantee you that he probably had some drug problems throughout the years
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as well well I question just rape outside of Date Rape or whatever you want to call it because regarding the
00:34:42
crime we know he has committed even though he's not been convicted yet it's 200 octillion one in 200 octillion it
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looks to me like this guy came and pushed in someone's door knocked them to the ground and raped them on the floor
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right and that that is much different than feeding some somebody drinks or going out with them or anything well
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it's still rape and I and I hope you know his generals get cut off in prison well you also have to wonder did anybody
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else know I mean because and I say that because 25 years has passed did he tell anybody I think people in this because
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this is the case that um as it was coming out as it was unfolding we had a great listener of ours I will not use
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her name but she I think I can motor band her band is freaking awesome they're called alien knife fight she
00:35:31
grew up in this town and this guy constantly hit on her constantly tried to date her constantly was kind of
00:35:38
creepy towards her and she constantly said no I'm not interested um so if you get a chance
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check out alien Knife Fight great ban um but yeah so I think maybe they didn't know but it was known in this community
00:35:54
that this guy was a little bit of a creepo well and here's what's great about this
00:35:59
case you know so we have the we have the Golden State killer case and we know the
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outcome of that they finally after all these years been able to arrest the believed perpetrator of those rapes and
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murders right from California as of this last weekend and we discussed this at length on our other
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show off the record on yesterday's off the Record the April Tinsley case there's been a major break and now an
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arrest in that case M because of this parabon nanolabs and then we have Christy Merrick's case 25 years old
00:36:36
case an arrest and and a DNA match that is one in 200 octillion so what I'm getting at here is
00:36:47
this is the future my friends and what a great future it is for law enforcement what a great future it is for all the
00:36:55
families of victims of C cases that are out there because I I have to wonder how
00:37:02
many other cases will be solved this way the information that I could find Captain if you have a good DNA sample a
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good dnaa profile of your suspect of a killer or of a rapist you can submit that to parabon
00:37:18
Nano labs and guess what it cost to do the work that they done on Golden State do the work that they did on Christy
00:37:25
Merck's case and now April Tinsley's case what does it cost $2,000 for $2,000 you could submit that
00:37:33
DNA profile that's not a lot of money when a community is is concerned about a killer on the loose no and you could
00:37:41
clear a case off of your books and we're talking about some these cases these three cases that I've just referenced
00:37:48
today these are famous cases these are cases that within their state people still wonder today who killed that
00:37:56
individual who who killed these individuals in California who killed that little girl in Indiana right and
00:38:01
you get a big case like that off of your books you remind the community then and
00:38:07
there with that action that we will not stop we will stop at nothing to pursue Justice for the victims well and you're
00:38:15
also letting these freaking dirt bags no your days are numbered cuz you said so in this you said so in off the Record
00:38:23
episode yesterday you said you think that we're we're going to be in the Golden Age of cold cases being solved
00:38:30
and I think you're right my friend yes get ready for it because I believe that there will be countless there will be a
00:38:36
countless number of cases being solved this way and what will end up coming to light is people that that were never
00:38:42
suspected and people that you would never expect will be getting arrested for crimes from their past maybe from
00:38:49
their distant past too this is a trend that is trending up and it's just in fact it's just starting mhm and the
00:38:56
other thing too that you have to wonder is what effect will this have on on a suspect holding a secret for so long and
00:39:04
what I mean by that is people out there that killers that are hiding in the shadows out there for all these years
00:39:11
pay attention to what's going on well they're paying attention pay attention because now you you have a limited
00:39:18
amount of time you have a limited opportunity to go and say look I'm not proud of this this is what I did I'm
00:39:25
turning myself in you have a limited amount of time because if they got your DNA on profile
00:39:31
it's only it's it's going to it's going to be like a domino effect tick tick tick tick boom we're going to get to you
00:39:36
eventually right you also have to wonder mhm will we see an increase in suicides
00:39:43
over the fear of these killers hiding in the shadow their their past catching up
00:39:48
with them yeah I think you're going to see that you're going to see that for them
00:39:52
to save face uh with their family and maybe with their community cuz maybe if uh if I'm dead they won't
00:40:00
test my DNA yeah I think that's some people are going to view it that way but for the
00:40:08
other ones you're going to get caught and uh I hope severely bad things happen to you in in prison because I
00:40:17
think that's what you got coming to you yeah I I can't wait and it's so interesting of a time right now for law
00:40:25
enforcement and to and to be involved in True Crime mhm because it's with with the three that we've had so far like I
00:40:34
said all very famous cases well-known cases to you and I and to all the listeners out there it's like man when
00:40:41
you sent me that text the other day saying that there was an arrest in the April Tinsley case now when I when my
00:40:47
phone buzzes anymore I'm wondering what case is next what famous case that we've
00:40:52
wondered about all these years is next who did they bust and why and how you know we're we're living in the Golden
00:40:59
Age of it and like I said get ready for it there will be a countless number of cases being solved this way one that
00:41:07
jumps off the page to me Captain that I thought of immediately as I was wrapping
00:41:11
up my research and talking to you about this case will this be the way that they
00:41:17
catch the Lane Bryant [Music] killer Captain I want to get back to giving out a little recommended reading
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00:41:37
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