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[Music] oallen Illinois December 31st 1999 New Year's Eve 20-year-old Eastern Illinois University
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student Amy blumber was working a dayshift at the onstage dance apparel store the store is a small Standalone
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store owned by Amy's aunt and uncle the store was located at 138 Eagle Drive just a Stones Throw from US
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Highway 50 and not far at all from Interstate 64 it was the holiday season and Amy was
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on winter break from her college courses at Eastern Illinois University it was a
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Friday and because it was New Year's Eve it was expected to be a rather slow day
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at the dance store Amy was working alone around 6:00 p.m. Amy's parents Ken and Sue blumber began receiving phone
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calls from Amy's friends they were wondering where Amy was Amy had plans to spend the evening with
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some of these friends to celebrate the New Year her mother Sue made multiple calls to the store trying to reach Amy
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without success after a couple of hours and was still no word from their daughter they
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became increasingly concerned they decided to drive to the store the blumbergs arrived at the store
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around 900 p.m. when they pulled into the lot they observed Amy car still parked in the
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lot the lights were on inside the store by now the store should have been closed
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and Amy should have left long before 900 p.m. Amy's parents parked their vehicle
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and both of them hurried to the front door of the business they found the door unlocked after entering the store Amy's
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parents saw Blood on the door jam of the entryway to the hall in the back of the
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store Sue stayed in the front portion of the store and immediately called 911 to
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request an ambulance Ken went to the back part of the store where he encountered a tremendous amount of blood
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in the back hallway Ken came back to the front part of the store and told Sue that they were
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too late then they went outside and waited until police arrived at the scene this is True Crime
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[Music] Garage New Year's Eve is a day when many choose to move on from the past year and
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now sadly in Eastern Illinois for many there was nothing to celebrate only sorrow and grief brief while many
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Americans were bracing for the Y2K scare the blumbergs were wondering what happened to their daughter and the
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oallen police department just caught a murder investigation officers with the Ofallon
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Police Department arrived on the scene shortly after 9900 p.m. officers Schaefer and Stover entered the store
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together the store itself looked as they had expected it looked normal but but behind a door on the left side of the
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store they spotted blood there was a trail of blood and blood spatter on the floor of a small hallway behind this
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door down the hall the first door was to the men's bathroom the officers noticed
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a pool of blood on the floor of the bathroom the hallway then continued to the right where the blood trail
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continued as well that hallway at the door to the women bathroom inside this door the officers
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found the body of a female on the floor the officers checked for a pulse confirmed that she was dead and went
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outside to secure the scene unfortunately the deceased was Amy blumberg she was born September 28th
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1979 she was just 20 years old a junior at Eastern Illinois University taken Way
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Too Soon by some unknown killer and Amy was survived by her parents and brother in the coming days hundreds gathered at
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the Grand Ballroom in the Student Union at Eastern Illinois University this was a memorial service
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for Amy a room full of classmates friends and her sisters from Sigma Kappa so many wonderful people had so many
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wonderful things to say and fond memories to share that day her mother said at the service that quote God will
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get us through this now Captain before we get into the investigation I'd like to go through
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some of the evidence that was found and recovered at the crime scene so back at the dance store crime scene technicians
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arrived at the scene of the murder at 9:35 p.m. on December 31st 1999 they immediately located a purse
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and keys on top of a counter in the store the cast register in the store appeared to be UND Disturbed they found
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blood on a door frame about 1T off of the floor leading to the hallway looking at the blood trail in the hallway it
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appears that someone was dragged across the carpet towards the men's bathroom in
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the men's bathroom they located a pair of nylon pants underwear socks and Tennis Shoes then the blood trail LED
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from the men's room to the women's restroom the victim's body was lying on the floor she was nuded from the waist
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down and bullet evidence was found at the scene so what we have here Captain is when unfortunately the blumbergs arrive
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at the dance store to look for their daughter Amy the first thing that they notice is that her vehicle is still in
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the parking lot and that the door to the business itself was unlocked right from
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my understanding when you walk into the store and scan the store everything looked in a appeared as normal however
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if you walked in further you would start seeing signs of a struggle and seeing this Blood Trail in this
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hallway at the back of the store that would tell you something horrible had happened and as we just described with
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this Blood Trail and what the police and technicians perception of this Trail was
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that somebody was dragged it looks like our victim Amy was attacked and then possibly moved once or twice to where
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she is finally found in the women's restroom can you explain this dance store a little bit better for the
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listeners it's a dance apparel store I don't know everything that they sold but that was their key product that they
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were pedaling and the store itself was relatively new again this is not a holiday but it's the day before a
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holiday and as we see often a lot of times we have shortened hours on days like this and that was the case here
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from my understanding as well but she was the only one working at this store at this time well like you said it was
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the day before a holiday so it shorten hours so let's dive into the timeline of this case Okay using the experts
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opinions and some known facts of the case we can get a pretty firm timeline for the day in question now we know that
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the door to the store was found unlocked when Amy's parents arrived at 900 p.m. but we can likely get rid of about 3
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hours that are in question on this day here because of a couple of things one the store was scheduled to close at 6:00
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p.m. shortly after 6 this is when Amy's parents are notified by at least one of Amy's friends that they could not get in
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touch with her so whatever happened had to have happened before 6 PM or Amy would have just closed the store left
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and went about her business for the day well like you said the door was unlocked
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her car was in the same position it was when she got there and no contact with friends or family through at least a
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telephone anyways yeah so something would have happened at 6pm or prior preventing Amy from closing the store
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and going with her friends also there's a side note here that I think is key Amy
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was given permission to close even earlier if the store was really slow now the coroner gave an estimated time of
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death of 400 p.m. and we usually know that that's more of a window of time less of an
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exact time but using that let's go through some of these other details so we have the cast register which showed
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the last sale was recorded for a $29 96 pair of black leotards this was at 2:26 p.m. so if the corner is correct
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and the register is right well then the killer was in the store sometime between
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2:26 p.m. and roughly 400 p.m. as given the estimated time of death so roughly a
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hour and a half window we can go back before 2:26 p.m. before this recorded sale because we have in this case two
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eyewitnesses we have a father and daughter these are customers that were in the store that day the gentleman's
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name is Leroy yogger he told detectives that he and his daughter arrived at the onstage store around 12:30 p.m. on
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December 31st 1999 the purpose for the visit was to exchange a purchase for his daughter that was too small when they
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arrived this again at approximately 12:30 p.m. the store was closed with a sign indicating that the clerk would be
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returning soon Leroy figures this was a lunch break that makes sense given the time of day so Leroy and his daughter
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went to lunch at a place nearby when they returned to the store the store was open so the two walked in
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this is when Leroy noticed a male customer who Leroy estimated to be in his 40s looking through the clothing
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racks Leroy's daughter then proceeded to try on several leotards until she found
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the correct size now while doing so Leroy was busy speaking with Amy the solo store clerk at that time right
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Leroy's daughter over heard the mail customer ask Amy if they sold dance shoes in the store
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then the man left the store a short time after this then Leroy and his daughter they
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complete their purchase and then they left the store but to be perfectly clear here Leroy's
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purchase was not the 226 p.m. purchase in question right later that evening when he learned that Amy had been found
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dead in the store he contacted the oallen police Department ultimately working with a sketch artist to create a
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likeness of the man he saw in the store obviously police want to speak with this
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man because you have two situations that are possible either he's a potential eyewitness with additional information
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that they need or he's somebody that they may want to consider as a person of interest or a suspect in this case yeah
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because he could have came into the store by himself and basically surveillance the area Leroy described
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the man's clothing as washed out jeans with a dark colored jacket he recalled that the jacket reminded him of a ski
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coat he also told police that there were two vehicles in the parking lot while they were there and he described them as
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a black car and a maroon car remember this is a standalone store that does not share a parking lot with other
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businesses and the lot is itself is rather small so it's one of those situations captain that you pull into
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the lot and you're pretty sure that the vehicles that you're seeing belong to the store either there are people
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working there or customers inside this store when it seemed like Amy parked in the front of the store which some stores
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are like that there's no back parking for employees well what we can figure out here is one of these vehicles is
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Amy's so what we need to know is who does that other vehicle belong belong to so as you can see we are dealing with a
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short window of time here we know that Leroy and his daughter did not go into the store until
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after 12:30 p.m. because when they first arrived the store was closed briefly right he says that they had lunch they
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went back to the store so even conservatively we're looking at probably at least 1 p.m. probably later in fact
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that they return to the store and they are in the store well this is good for law enforcement that it's a standalone
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store with a standalone parking lot because you have people driving by that could give you some kind of account you
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hear on the news that this young girl is murdered maybe you drove by and saw which cars were in the parking lot
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around that time so that is a good thing for law enforcement and to close up our
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time our window of time here even more again we have Leroy and his daughter in the store they're in the store long
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enough for Leroy to make several observations to chitchat with Amy exchanged their previous purchase
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all before leaving so now we are probably looking at 130 at the very earliest that they are departing the
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store I think it's likely closer to two or maybe even 2:15 but to stay conservative we can say
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Leroy left the store at 1:30 p.m. maybe later and everything was fine at the time that he left then a sale recorded
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on the register at 2:26 p.m. MH so still business as usual and then we have the estimated
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time of death is roughly 4 p.m. kind of reminds you of a couple of other cases doesn't it Captain several that we have
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covered in fact here in the garage but to keep it brief I'm just going to name two real quick one solved that's the
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super bikes case and one unsolved yogurt shop where we have information from eyewitnesses from persons patrons at
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these businesses that are telling us one the times that they were in the business
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and what they saw while they were there another thing going for law enforcement is Leroy is you're you're not looking at
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at Leroy as just an eyewitness at first you have to put him in the person of interest category but because they have
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such a solid timeline then they can quickly figure out if Leroy has an alibi because it's possible that Leroy goes to
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the store with his daughter and then comes back but I believe they were able to figure out that Leroy himself had an
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alibi for the time of where they think the murder took place yeah that's exactly right and I don't think that at
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any time they were looking at this individual as a suspect what you have here is you have a a conflict and that
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conf conflict immediately is two things you find this young woman working by herself at a store who is murdered you
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have a short window of time of when that murder could have taken place and now you're asking the public hey anybody
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that was at the store here that day please come forward with information and help us out you have two very different
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things you have Leroy who was there with his daughter coming forward with helpful
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information and you have an unknown man who is not coming forward with any information at all I'm just saying that
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if I'm law enforcement I'm going to do my due diligence and make sure that Leroy has an alibi for the time and make
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sure that he didn't have some conversation with this young girl and decide to come back well of course yes I
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I would hope that they would be as diligent as you there Captain well somebody's a condescending dick today it
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it does very much remind me of both of those cases super bikes and yogurt shop because because in both of those cases
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we have detectives who are looking for that quote last customer or the very last person in the store before the [ __ ]
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hit the fan we do have some of the autopsy information here in this case they found several bruises on different
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portions of the body indicating a struggle signs that Amy defended herself she was shot once at close range or what
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is listed as an indeterminate range again this was just one shot it was an indeterminant range but it is
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listed at a close range there was an entry wound to the back of her left ear and an exit wound in front of her right
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ear in the doctor's opinion the bullet wound would have caused a rapid death well we do have some forensic evidence
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so let's dive into that a red substance was found on the carpet in front of the cash register this was determined to be
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human blood matching Amy's DNA blood and debris was found on a dress on a rack in
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the front of the store human blood was found on the hallway door frame as we had already mentioned there were several
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hairs that were collected from the body and the victim's clothing that did not belong to the victim a hair was
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collected from from the victim's right ankle a single bullet was recovered from the scene this was a 38 caliber bullet
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with six lands and grooves with a right twist this particular bullet was from a 38 caliber class of bullets and given
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the bullets weight design and bearing surface this bullet was consistent with a 38 automatic caliber bullet between
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the the 38 caliber revolvers and the 38 caliber special deringers there were 49 different
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possibilities for making model of the gun that was used in this crime now experts at the time when asked how
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many of these types of guns were in circulation they put the guess at well this would be in the millions they said
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it's fascinating how many different models and types of guns there are so police needed a gun for comparison
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purposes with this bullet that they found this wasn't a unique situation that was unique enough that they were
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able to really hone in on exactly the make and model that they were looking for and police were also asking the
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public for help as we said they were looking for anybody that had been in the store that day and frankly as you
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pointed out Captain do your due diligence they're probably looking for anybody that had been in the store at
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any time at all if you want to come forward with any bit of information that you think was suspicious or of could be
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of some importance to the case right and possibly like I said before the eyewitness is driving by because we have
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a single store with a single parking lot did somebody did somebody see a certain
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vehicle around 4:00 that could come forward and let you know and then also there's some businesses around there so
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what time did those employees get off did they notice anything out of the ordinary when it comes to the Dance
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back cheers to you Colonel cheers everybody a Happy New Year's cheers to everybody out there yes as we said the
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police were asking the public for help in Amy's case and specifically they announced that they
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are looking for a white middle a man who was a customer in the Dance Shop the day
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of the murder they described this individual as 56 Ines to 5 foot 8 in tall wearing blue jeans a gray t-shirt
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white tennis shoes and a dark ski jacket so police need your help and then in this case Captain this is this is
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interesting I I love to see the different tactics that are used by different jurisdictions and what
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unique crimes generate different unique tactics and this is something that's not
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terribly uncommon but they set up a special 24-hour phone line so this was a voicemail phone line that is set up to
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record tips for police and detectives you could call any time of day and you could leave any information that you
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want there and because it's a voicemail I'm guessing it's Anonymous maybe they can track your or trace your your call
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if they want but from my understanding they were putting out the vibe to everybody that these are going to
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be anonymous that you could call anonymously and leave your information what they have here and what they bring
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in and this is one thing that I think is Paramount to any case and I love when I
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see investigators and police police departments doing this they very quickly identify that this case is problematic
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for many reasons and so they're not above calling in help and so what they get here is they
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get 18 investigators from the Greater St Louis area from the major case Squad who
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were assisting in the case and the FBI was called in as well in Ofallon they had a three detect
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unit that we all putting in very long hours to try to find the killer who the newspaper said shot Amy blumberg in the
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head for no obvious reason on New Year's Eve Police Captain Jim Stover said that
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the detectives will be working on the case as long as I need them and that overtime was not a concern and in
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regards to the comment of shot for no obvious reason I believe is warranted as the police were seeking not only a
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suspect but they were trying to figure out a motive for this as well right per the information released to the public
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the store was not robbed and Amy's car was found undisturbed in the parking lot of the dance store but she was found
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nude from the waist down so possible sexual motive in just a couple of days a $5,000 reward for information was put
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together this was from donors that reward would grow to over $118,000 within a couple of months and then
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something happened that I'm sure many in the area were thinking might happen as the investigation dragged on right due
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to the lack of an obvious motive detectives were looking into similar cases 20 other murder cases in fact
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spanning from Maryland to Washington State specifically they were checking into possible parallels with the one that was
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called the interstate 70 or the I70 killer well because this dance shop it's how far away from I70 it's not terribly
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far and it's also within the uh range of states that these some of these killings
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were taking place similar descriptions of the individual exactly so what we have here is the I70 killer 8 years
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prior to Amy blumberg's murder had shot and killed store clerks for no apparent reason
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along the same Interstate in several States including the St Louis area which we are talking about the greater being
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very near the Greater St Louis area here with this case and like the I70 victims
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Amy blumberg was working alone in a low trffic specialty store she was shot once
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in the head in the middle of the afternoon the store was not robbed Captain Stover is quot quoted as saying
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we have no evidence whatsoever to indicate that this homicide is related to the I70 murders but on the other hand
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we have no evidence that it is not there are a lot of things that are similar and
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a lot of things that are disimilar end quote right just to fill everybody in in case anybody's wondering the I70 killer
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is a still unidentified serial killer that is known to have killed six store clerks in the midwest in the spring of
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1992 the nickname derives from the fact that several of the stores in which the victims worked were located a few miles
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off of Interstate 70 his victims were usually young women all of the stores attacked were specialty stores and were
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usually only robbed of very small amounts of cash right he is also suspected of shooting three more store
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clerks in Texas during 1993 and 1994 one of which survived D also there is a 2001
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murder of a store clerk in Terra Hope Indiana this is believed to possibly be connected to the I70 case as well due to
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the lack of leads in Amy's case and given the similarities in these scenarios Amy's case was easy to try to
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fit in with the I70 cases well and if you're not following us on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram what are you doing
00:36:24
with your life we'll put a deposite sketch of the I70 killer on our social media now the I70 killer case has been
00:36:33
covered extensively the case was featured on Unsolved Mysteries America's Most Wanted and dark minds and as said
00:36:40
the Killer is yet to be identified and police have not publicly identified any suspects save but one and we'll get to
00:36:50
that here in a bit now in Amy's case the oallen police department did release two
00:36:57
composite sketches of persons that they would like to talk to along with those descriptions given one of which was the
00:37:05
male customer scene in the dance store and the other was of a man that was seen in a nearby store behaving
00:37:14
suspiciously on the same day of the shooting so I want to be clear here because this is a little bit difficult
00:37:21
these are two composite sketches that they're putting out at the same time time right and the police are telling
00:37:29
you this one is given from one eyewitness who says I saw this man in the dance store this is what he looked
00:37:37
like on the day in question the other is from a separate eyewitness at a different location that says this man
00:37:46
who looks like this description was behaving weird that day apparently there was a guy in some business and I I want
00:37:54
to say that it was a real estate office I I had it in my notes somewhere here Captain but I can't find it at the
00:38:00
moment but the interaction was strange because the person was saying this was a a female eyewitness says this man
00:38:08
approached me and he kept asking if I was alone or if there was anybody else in the building and then he left now the
00:38:16
caveat here that police are throwing out to the public is look we're not saying that this
00:38:24
guy is the same guy but doesn't mean it's not right they're saying he could be the same guy but we want you to be
00:38:32
well aware that these are two descriptions coming they're they're actually similar descriptions these are
00:38:39
two descriptions coming from two different eyewitnesses that were at two different locations at different times
00:38:44
of the day so they're they're throwing out that that warning that buyer beware to to the public that this could be the
00:38:51
same person it also could not be the same person so don't lock in on that too much and don't bother yourself with that
00:38:58
too much we just want to know if you can Mr public come forward with any information on either of these composite
00:39:06
sketch drawings what I do know from doing this podcast for so many years there's so many cases where it's washed
00:39:13
out jeans and some dark colored jacket uh that is not the look that I'm ever going to go for ever well it's just like
00:39:24
the deli case you have people come they're like uh this man must have must be responsible because he was wearing a
00:39:32
blue jacket and jeans um news flash most of America wears a blue jacket and jeans
00:39:38
most men in their 30s or 40s in America at 1999 were wearing dark jackets and jeans so while this individual Leroy and
00:39:49
his daughter are trying to be very helpful unfortunately the clothing is pretty much nondescript well yeah
00:39:55
because this is like like the uniform of the guy that has given up like I just wear my old faded jeans and and some
00:40:03
jacket some dark jacket that's it you just describe me although I've not given up but I've I'm also not giving up my
00:40:09
[ __ ] jeans or or black jacket here's some interesting things though captain and these may all be
00:40:17
coincidental the dance apparel store was relatively new and these are like just some sad again when we cover these you
00:40:25
find these little tidbits of information that just make the story even more tragic and even more happen stance right
00:40:34
that this is is almost a little more random the dance apparel store was relatively new again it's a small
00:40:41
building itself and only about a year old the business is only about a year old at the time of the crime and it
00:40:48
never opens again after Amy is killed and in fact they put it on the real estate market one month after the murder
00:40:56
doors never open up again so it's listed for sale in early February of 2000 Amy was the owner's niece she was only
00:41:09
working there because she's on winter break from college and likely covering and working by herself on a day that
00:41:18
they were expecting very low traffic and probably very few customers at all so Amy is K on
00:41:26
the last day of 1999 by early March 2000 police had ditch the two composite sketches of the men that they wanted to
00:41:37
interview now I've said this plenty of times here in the garage Captain I am a fan of the composite sketches as they
00:41:44
always generate a lot of calls and a lot of information coming into police but the big problem always seems to be the
00:41:54
same people have a tendency to hyperbolize these sketches right I know this sounds like I am stating the
00:42:01
obvious but it clearly is not so obvious to the masses so I'll say it anyway it's
00:42:08
not a picture it's not a photograph of the suspect in this case it's just a sketch of persons that law enforcement
00:42:16
want to identify and interview it's not a picture it's a sketch of a person as described by another person with a
00:42:24
fallible memory who was doing their best to to piece together the likeness of this individual that they saw at a time
00:42:33
when they didn't know they were supposed to be paying so much attention to everything but also we have cases where
00:42:38
we actually have photographs but maybe the maybe the photograph is a little bit blurry or pixelated so it's hard to make
00:42:48
out an in individual like you said the composite sketch I think it's a good thing I think having a picture is a
00:42:55
great thing too but I think sometimes it it leads to people going they're trying
00:43:00
to help but they go oh I got a I got a buddy that lives out of state it's never even been in the state but he kind of
00:43:08
looks like that guy I should probably call so I think there it becomes sometimes that they actually get too
00:43:15
many leads right and I'm not trying to fault the eyewitnesses for trying to help they are simply giving a
00:43:22
description of someone that they saw often you know th this case thankfully with Leroy he's calling in
00:43:30
that night and he's so it's a little more recent but often times we're talking about somebody trying to give a
00:43:37
description of someone that they saw 24 48 72 hours earlier when they themselves
00:43:43
were just going about everyday normal activities so often these Witnesses they do not know or would not have any way of
00:43:53
knowing that they are looking at someone that at a later time it might be important to be able to describe that
00:44:01
person in great detail and when I worked at the bank this is something that we actually did to practice they would give
00:44:08
us a scenario and maybe it was on video footage and we were told to pay attention and then we were told to give
00:44:16
the best description as we could and yes if you do it more often more frequent you get better at it but it's pretty
00:44:24
astonishing how bad some people are well and then when we talk about yes it's great because a lot of information comes
00:44:31
in a lot of tips a lot of calls come in but the reverse of that is you have to take into consideration this would
00:44:38
anybody like to try to come up with an accurate over and under number for the tips calls email submissions and social
00:44:45
media side by sides that were wrong in the deli case right how about the hundreds of tips called in in 1989 1990
00:44:55
and 91 in the Amy mahalic case which still is yet to see an arrest here police did the right thing this is
00:45:03
something that I've not seen done very often we've seen it once or twice but they are forced to scrap the composite
00:45:11
and not just scrap the composite they come out and they tell the public please disregard and
00:45:19
forget about the composits that we released the key they said at the same time is to Focus heavy on the physical
00:45:29
description that we gave out so thanks for calling in but the guy you were calling about that looks just like the
00:45:35
sketch in the mahalic case the suspect lives in California well he cannot be the abductor and killer if he physically
00:45:41
was not in Bay Village Ohio in 1989 and that's one of the things that we've had to deal with when we go do a live event
00:45:49
or we go to a conference somebody would come up and go I think the Killer is this guy and the description of the
00:45:58
Killer is let's say 5'6 to 510 and the person that they think was the killer is 64 MH and you start by going well I
00:46:09
think you you need to especially when there's a picture you need to be able to match the picture but then also like you
00:46:15
said match the description and that was the problem the exact problem that they were having here right like just like
00:46:22
you said if if we're looking for a guy that that is of this description well then if you're calling about some guy
00:46:30
that's 4' 2 in or some guy that's 6' 10 in tall you're calling us with the wrong
00:46:35
person and that was the problem with the sketch in the Amy blumberg case and in this case Captain Stover is telling the
00:46:43
public look thank you people for coming forward with information however we're scrapping these composite sketches and
00:46:51
we're telling you public to forget about it because tipsters that are called falling in have
00:46:56
been focusing solely on the face of this composite sketch and totally ignoring other details of the man's General
00:47:06
description and he says look we are spending a lot of time and working a lot of leads from people who look at the
00:47:13
composite but do not look at the description so they're showing up to talk to some guy that yes his face might
00:47:20
match that very general face that's in the sketch but very quickly they can look at the guy and tell from
00:47:28
any number of other reasons that this is probably not a great lead we spent our time driving out here to meet this
00:47:36
person we are wasting resources at the time when we're we got this case with with this uh essentially even though
00:47:45
they never announced it but we talked about the major Cas Squad persons from the Greater St Louis area assisting and
00:47:52
the FBI calling in so essentially what you have here is a task task force than the early days and months of this
00:47:58
investigation but also know thyself don't go around and act like an expert if you're not and some of these
00:48:05
people look all the people that I met that gave me some far out there suspects to look
00:48:14
into in plenty of uh cases that we've covered they all mean well they just don't really understand that they have
00:48:22
no clue what they're talking about on the one-year anniversary of the murder the case was still unsolved and it looks
00:48:28
like the leads had pretty much dried up at that point the tip line did receive a
00:48:33
lot of calls and a lot of incoming information early on most of the calls were tips and leads on persons who who
00:48:43
were resembled the composite sketch none of those panned out in that year to come
00:48:50
the police interviewed they said they interviewed more than 225 people that all knew Amy and the same one common
00:49:00
theme that they found throughout all of those interviews Captain was we interviewed 225 people and came up with
00:49:08
zero enemies for our victim and so they they come out and they say look we can tell
00:49:16
from everybody we spoke to that Amy was wholesome she was energetic she was well-liked she was kind and funloving
00:49:23
her friends called her blums and police were now actively telling the public we believe this was a stranger
00:49:33
killing that was what they were calling it a stranger killing they were focusing
00:49:38
their search for a suspect on similar killings in other cities and states like we said earlier with the I70 cases Sue
00:49:46
blumberg told the Belleview news democrat quote that's what makes this difficult to believe even after a year
00:49:54
why would somebody do this to a person they don't even know end quote police said that the FBI profilers in Quantico
00:50:03
were adding to their study whenever the oallen police department fed them new information well it's proof that there's
00:50:12
just evil people out there oallen police department come up with this Theory after working the case very hard that
00:50:19
this is probably a stranger killing and we don't have any of the experts to disagree with them we have the major K
00:50:27
Squad unit and we have the FBI agents in quanico who seem to be all on board with
00:50:34
this theory that oall and police department are now using and working in Amy's case so this will bring us up to two
00:50:44
years into the investigation the reward fund stopped growing by this point captain now we're sitting at about
00:50:53
$20,000 and the calls to the tip line were rare at this point Sue blumberg after the case was open still open the
00:51:03
second year stated that it's in God's hands now when the time is right something will happen well sadly let's
00:51:14
go out another year then we get to three years later three years after the Murder
00:51:19
by this time the tip line had gone silent but police had not they told the Belleview news democrat there's somebody
00:51:29
out there who knows something and people eventually talk we are still looking for
00:51:34
the last customer at the store that day who bought a black leotard around 230 p.m. we can't tell the size because they
00:51:45
didn't keep track of that and detective J Stanley had one last thing to say on the matter quote it's personal now we've
00:51:54
become very close to Sue and Ken blumberg Amy's parents and we would like to close this what's not clear captain
00:52:04
in Leroy's statement and I'd like to go back to the statement here because now we can see three years later and it
00:52:11
seems like it always has been from the get-go that a heavy focus and rightfully show and rightfully so is on this last
00:52:22
customer but what's not clear about Leroy state stat to me and I'm sure it probably was to police at the time
00:52:28
because I'm sure they spoke with him extensively and on a multiple occasions but if both of these vehicles were
00:52:35
parked in the lot when he and his daughter were in the store it his statement as far as the way
00:52:44
that it reaches US states these were the two vehicles that I saw while we were there what we don't what we don't know
00:52:53
and what we we cannot tell from that statement is what exactly does that mean does that mean that these two vehicles
00:53:01
were parked in the parking lot when you arrived were they parked in the parking lot while you were in the store were
00:53:07
they parked in the parking lot when you left this is going to take us up to December 20th 2003 this is 11 days
00:53:15
before the 4-year anniversary of that terrible day when Amy was taken away and a long awaited announcement was
00:53:24
made on this day the Ofallon authorities charged a suspect in the 1999 East Illinois University students
00:53:36
murder it took a messy divorce and a strange ex-wife and almost four years who finally make an arrest in this
00:53:45
case Edward Scott Phillips 37 years old who also went by the names of Ed and Eddie was charged with first degree
00:53:55
murder police were looking at Edward Scott Phillips for about two and a half weeks very quietly right before actually
00:54:05
charging him and announcing that they were charging him with this murder to the public Edward Scott Phillips was
00:54:12
already in prison serving time on unrelated charges of burglary perjury and obstructing
00:54:19
justice it looks like all of those charges are in direct relation to Edward's ex-wife and their messy divorce
00:54:28
mhm from my understanding Captain I think she had moved on they were divorced Edward clearly had not moved on
00:54:38
and he had broken into her home broken into the home of the person he believed to be his ex-wife's boyfriend and he had
00:54:47
left threatening messages and threatening calls to both individuals so he's eventually picked up and charged
00:54:55
and put in uh jail or prison for those charges so he's already locked up and had been for a period of time before
00:55:03
police get to him to talk to him about Amy's case now before all of that mess Edward worked for the Illinois
00:55:13
Department of Corrections for which he drove a truck delivering food to different
00:55:21
prisons now the tip that comes out that leads law enforcement to their suspect after all
00:55:31
of these years really came out of the blue completely out of the blue the arrest came by way of a tip called in
00:55:38
from Edward's ex-wife Dawn she passed along her suspicions to her attorney her divorce attorney at the
00:55:46
time right who then began talking with police what police Learned was that Edward owned a 38 caliber gun at the
00:55:56
time of the murder and that that night the night in question Edward came home with blood on his clothes which at the
00:56:04
time he had told his wife that his clothes were bloody because he was forced to move a
00:56:11
dead animal off of the road sounds fishy now Edward also fits the description no matter how much you one
00:56:20
argues how vague it is or not vague right he fits the description of the person that the police were looking for
00:56:27
as either a witness or suspect that last customer well it probably took her a minute to come forward too because once
00:56:35
he's in jail or prison like you said maybe she felt safe enough to go to her attorney and say hey this guy should be
00:56:42
looked at in this crime I think that's what you have here I think that you have this wife who was suspicious about this
00:56:51
situ situation all along never never brought it to anybody's attention until she felt like I don't have to worry
00:57:00
about this guy doing something to me the general description that we get of Edward now mind keep it keep in mind
00:57:07
this is four years after the the homicide at the time of his arrest he's 5 fo 8 in tall fits the height he's
00:57:16
roughly 210 PBS with brown hair and Hazel Eyes now at the time of the murder he lived about 130 miles roughly from
00:57:25
the crime scene wow now this is weird captain because when asked by detectives about the day in question Edward Scott
00:57:33
Phillips says he was the quote last customer that they had been looking for but he goes on to tell them I did not
00:57:42
kill Amy so detectives go and talk to this guy Edward Phillips who is already in
00:57:48
prison at the time anyway again his charges weren't particularly serious offenses compared
00:57:54
to to the other cases we have discussed here today right but what what is his reason for buying these leotards well at
00:58:01
the time I and I I can't tell you what he told police because I don't know we don't have those statements but at the
00:58:06
time of Amy's murder Edward Phillips lived with his wife Dawn and his daughter in Mount Sterling Illinois so
00:58:13
he admits that he was at the dance store that day okay well this has got to make
00:58:19
the detectives extremely suspicious right from Jump Street right because here you have been asking the public for
00:58:25
help in the case for damn near four years and at no point does this guy come forward and say hey I was there that day
00:58:33
this is what I know I would like to help this poor family the police and the community but instead no he chose to do
00:58:40
nothing well like you said he lived over 130 mil away so right out of the gate with this guy you're already you already
00:58:47
know one of two things either this guy is a soulless gutless loser or he's your killer
00:58:55
now look even the devil hates a loser so if I'm in there questioning this guy I'm
00:59:01
thinking he's probably both he's everything we just said and he's probably our guy right his General story
00:59:08
Captain was that he drove out of town to attend I believe he said a gun show but
00:59:16
there was something that he drove to this area and he was looking he he had a destination that was not the dance store
00:59:26
he couldn't find that destination so he decides to turn around and start heading
00:59:30
home and when he heads home he sees this dance store and he thinks that he's going to stop in and buy something for
00:59:36
his daughter I do not like the cut of this guy's jib well it gets it gets so much worse so he he already tells police
00:59:44
that yes I I was in the store that day but you got to you got to listen if you pay if you don't pay any attention to
00:59:51
anything else that we've said so far today in this case pay attention to of this not only does he tell police yes I
00:59:57
was the last customer that was in the store that day I I'm the guy that you were looking for uh as far as that final
01:00:06
charge on the register the final sale on the register that was recorded but he says Hey I was in the store on that day
01:00:14
in question by myself I bought something for my daughter then I left the store a
01:00:19
short time later I returned to the store because I decided to return the item or
01:00:24
exchanged the item he says that when he arrived he couldn't find the store clerk instead he finds a trail of blood
01:00:33
he follows the trail which leads him eventually to Amy's body he says that he then panicked because he had an
01:00:40
unregistered firearm in his possession on that day so he decides to flee the scene drives back to his home in Mount
01:00:48
Sterling again about 130 mil away and disposing of the unre registered pistol along the way he gets home and his wife
01:00:58
sees blood on his pants he says Ive got blood on my clothing because I had to move a dead animal off the road that gun
01:01:05
that Edward disposed of and the murder weapon which I and many others firmly believe to be one and the same has never
01:01:12
been located right after Phillips and his wife Dawn got divorced they were in this heated child
01:01:21
custody battle and that's when Dawn told her attorney the attorney tells the police about the blood stains on
01:01:28
Edward's pants on the night of December 31st 1999 this of course leading them to
01:01:34
question him so unfortunately the waight continued for those Seeking Justice for Amy the trial
01:01:44
against this scumbag took some time to get to Edward entered a plea of not guilty at trial prosecutors showed the
01:01:53
members of the jury an empty box for 38 caliber pistol bullets found in Philip's
01:02:02
home which would match the small caliber bullets that killed Amy Bloomberg and the
01:02:11
prosecution had a man testify a man who knew Edward Phillips this man testified that he sold a pistol to
01:02:19
Edward and the prosecution had the bill of sale with Edward signature on it in evidence so this gun that he admits was
01:02:29
unregistered he has it on him at the time of the murder and he disposes of it shortly after Amy is
01:02:36
killed matches the caliber that killed our victim and we have proof positive from his own words
01:02:45
and from this gentleman who sold him the gun and kept this bill of sale with Edward's signature on it all of these
01:02:53
years later and like you said law enforcement was looking for this last customer for years never comes forward
01:02:59
and then when they actually do talk to him he's like oh well not only was I the last customer I went back in and I saw
01:03:05
that she was murdered and I I didn't come forward M I didn't tell anybody so you want to talk about put Painting
01:03:13
yourself into a corner that's exactly what this knob head did and there's going to be some people that will say
01:03:21
man I I can see why he panicked and he just kind of freaked out and yeah maybe he wasn't thinking clearly but here's
01:03:28
the thing at the end of the day they have the evidence to match the bullet to the gun that killed this poor young
01:03:37
woman even if you are in possession of a firearm with you that day they can very
01:03:42
quickly go yep that doesn't match the bullet that killed this young woman right so just just by having a gun
01:03:50
doesn't make you guilty of anything you could have if he was innocent which he's
01:03:55
clearly not uh he could have helped in this situation well he doesn't know what the actual murder weapon is or he
01:04:02
shouldn't if he's innocent he shouldn't know so it could be a 9 MIM or 22 see see what I'm saying so the fact
01:04:10
that he would get rid of his gun when you don't even know what the murder weapon would be if you were innocent
01:04:15
right not not to mention the fact that there would be uh intricate markings on that would be able to tell exactly which
01:04:23
gun fired that bullet now despite what the defense called only circumstantial evidence the jury only needed 24 hours
01:04:32
of deliberation and on May 29th 2007 Edward Phillips was found guilty of first-degree murder and sentenced to 55
01:04:40
years in prison without parole at sentencing Edward Phillips who declined to testify at trial turned to Amy's
01:04:48
parents and told them quote I did I didn't kill your daughter if you didn't commit this crime crime you wouldn't be
01:04:55
freaking out you call 911 they come you have an unregistered gun and then you tell them do a ballistic test I never
01:05:03
shot my gun today well and what's interesting here too even all of these years later is that well Amy's case
01:05:13
while it was looked at in in consideration to be a part of the series of the I70 Killers
01:05:21
cases well that cannot be the case if Edward Scott Phillips is not the i7 killer because Edward Scott Phillips
01:05:32
regardless of what he said to Amy's parents I believe and so do everybody else including that jury the only people
01:05:39
that matter they believe he is the Killer and I think that you could the defense can call it whatever they want
01:05:46
circumstantial evidence whatever it looks to me like a pretty good mountain of evidence convicted this guy and they
01:05:52
found their right guy now for some quick followup on the I70 killer case our longtime listeners know that we covered
01:05:59
the case in depth over two years ago if anybody would like to go back and listen
01:06:05
to those episodes that's true crime garage episodes 441 and 442 from November of 2020 Great episodes if IID
01:06:14
say so myself thank you you did you did an excellent job I mean your part was okay but my part was some of my best
01:06:22
work my part was hacking at best lackluster as some of the reviews stated since then there has been some movement
01:06:31
on the I70 cases in October of 2021 we get updated suspect composite sketches now a little bit more of my
01:06:42
rant here Captain this is the part where I have a big problem WTHR who I know does some great work
01:06:51
I've read a lot of their articles over the years but this is where they this was very
01:06:58
disappointing to me because they titled their article authorities with St Charles Police Department in Missouri
01:07:06
released age enhanced photos of the suspected I70 killer these are not photos nobody would look at these and go
01:07:16
those are photos but again the masses sometimes have trouble understanding and and comprehending exactly what's going
01:07:24
on and if you tell them that they're photos there are going to be some people out there that believe that these are
01:07:28
photos these are sketches that they are releasing to the public of an unknown individual sketches of an unknown
01:07:35
individual will never be as accurate as a photo so I think it's just I think it's poor reporting to call them photos
01:07:42
yeah definitely poor reporting which you don't get on this show I don't want it to make it I don't want to seem like
01:07:49
we're coming down hard on people that see a image and go well that could be my neighbor bear or that looks kind of like
01:07:55
my uncle and maybe he was responsible because again when people go out of their way to actually call in call in
01:08:05
these tips their gut is telling them I I I should call in cuz worst case scenario
01:08:12
I'm wrong but if I don't call in they don't have this information so I know that there's a lot of people out there
01:08:19
that see these sketches I mean that's one of the reasons why in the deli case they said hey stop
01:08:24
comparing these people online that's that's not going to help the case any and I would argue in the deli case that
01:08:32
the man they arrested does not look much like the first composite sketch or the second composite sketch maybe he looks
01:08:40
somewhere to me looks somewhere in between the following month a month after we get these updated suspect
01:08:50
composite sketches uh and November of 20 21 Tera Hope Police announced that the I70
01:08:56
killer was a possible suspect in a 2001 murder of a liquor store clerk his name was Billy
01:09:06
brosman the crime went down like this on the evening of November 30th 2001 brosman was working alone at the 7th and
01:09:14
70 liquor store in terao Indiana security camera footage showed a white male suspect entered the store and pull
01:09:24
a gun on brosman and Rob the cash register the footage then showed the suspect lead brosman to the back of the
01:09:31
store and murder him with a single shot to the back of the head the murder of brosman occurred just seven blocks from
01:09:38
the murder of Michael maau and was similar Ino to the I70 murders unlike in the I70 murders though we have security
01:09:50
footage of brossman's killer that exist and police have stated that they have a person of interest in the case so
01:09:58
they're they're telling us hey the this could be connected it also may not be if
01:10:04
this person of interest pans out and he is not tied to any of these other killings then we get this intriguing
01:10:13
update from KMOV news4 that reads the person identified earlier this week as the I65
01:10:22
serial killer is is now being looked at as a possible suspect in the I70 murders
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with a local task force scrambling to compare notes with police authorities in Indiana so this would be information
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from last year captain and they go on to say that Indiana State Police have announced that numerous pieces of DNA
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evidence tied Harry Edward Greenwell to three Motel Highway killings in Indiana and Kentucky between 1986 7 in
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1990 the I70 killings happened just two years later as we know in 1992 Greenwell this guy who they already know
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killed three people died of cancer in 2013 at the age of 68 the I65 killer was also known as the
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days in killer his uh first victim was at a super eight motel in Elizabeth Town Kentucky
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before he killed again at the days in in Merillville Indiana and then finally at
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the Remington Indiana days in police say Greenwell attacked a fourth victim later
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at the days in in Columbia Indiana but she survived and gave police a composite sketch which matched Greenwell quote we
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are talking with the Indiana task force said detective Raymond Floyd who is heading up the St Louis task force
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investigating the I70 murders right now it's preliminary but there are definitely some
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similarities and we are going to pursue them also last year in 2022 we get confirmation that DNA evidence exist in
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the I70 killer case and was sent away for testing police have said that DNA testing results were back they received
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the results back last year they had some material from the April 1992 Tera hope case this was murder of Michael maau
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that had DNA evidence on it they sent it out for testing last year they get this
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uh results back however due to the active investigation investigators are not sharing the results currently from
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that testing because they have said several other agencies other police agencies and other jurisdictions have
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evidence that is currently being processed or will be process processed and tested soon so the police are
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reminding the public and all of these jurisdictions that involveed the I70 cases that they're refusing to call the
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I70 cases cold and I say rightfully so look at all the activity in these cases it looks more and
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more likely that maybe even 30 years later that we are finally going to get some answers in some of these still
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unsolved homicide cases all I got to say is winner winner chicken dinner if it's
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confirmed like you said it is that they have DNA that gives me a lot of hope that the I70 serial killer case could be
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