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chair grab a beer let's talk some true [Music] [Music] crime [Music] [Applause] the following is taken from letters
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written and sent by inmate number 27896 Joseph Roy methany while serving two life sentences without the
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possibility of parole you have always asked me if I have any remorse for what I have done
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nope I sleep just fine I did most of those sorry pieces of [ __ ] a favor they had one foot in the coffin
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and another on a banana peel long before they ran into me the first time I took a life I was
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scared shitless I was only 15 years old I had tried to get this little 12-year-old girl to notice me but she
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never would school let out for the day and I followed her home I had done this several times
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before she would cut through this little patch in the woods well one day her luck ran out for
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that was the day that I killed her I experienced a lot of first that day she was my first kill she was also my
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first rape I ran up behind her and grabbed her and pulled her into those woods I pushed her on the ground and
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told her to take her clothes off she was a little slow so I helped her by ripping
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them off I beat and raped her for 2 hours then I stood up to look at what I had done she was holding herself and
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crying she was dirty and bloody there was a big rock lying about 3 ft from me I picked it up and started bashing in
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her head with it I dug a shallow grave and I buried her and that is where she is resting to
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this day that same rock that I killed her with is her headstone that happened back in sep
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September of 1970 I used to walk back into those woods many times when I was in the area
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just to check on her when I was a kid I used to tear my toys apart just to see what was inside
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of them I used to get off on hurting things it started with bugs just seeing what would happen when you pull the legs
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or Wings off then I mooved to animals when you kill someone someone it feels like time stops and goes in slow
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motion you get excited and the adrenaline starts pumping then when the life drains from
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your victim it becomes very quiet and you stand there gazing down at what you have
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done reality comes back to you and then you get scared and you don't know what to
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do most will run away from the seene the best way to handle the situation is to try and hide the body
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until you can take a little time and calm yourself down when it gets dark get a shovel a
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couple of trash bags and a bag of lime now dig a hole 3 to 4 ft will work line the bottom of the hole with
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trash bags strip the body of all the clothing and jewelry and put that in a trash bag to take with you and throw
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away somewhere else far away now take the bag of lime pour some all over the bottom of the hole and then
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place the body in the hole now pour the rest of the bag of lime all over the body then take the shovel fill in the
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hole your first kill is the hardest anything else after that is like swatting flies and stepping on
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bugs you I have no feelings at all yes I was young when I took the life away from that sweet little 12-year-old
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redhead girl I was her first and I was her last she's been lying out there in those
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woods in a shallow grave cold and naked for 37 years now when I was in the outside world I
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would buy Six beers each year and go sit beside her grave and drink them and think about what I had done at that very
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spot on September 19th 1970 anyone else would have probably started feeling remorse and would have
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probably started crying at that grave but not me every year when I would go out there I would do the same
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thing I would relive the murder in my mind and then I would pick up my beer cans and I would go
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home that's the big difference between me and people like you I had a lot of bad things happen to
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me when I was very young and I learned to block it out over the years but in reality all that did was make me hollow
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inside in some ways that's a good thing for when you no longer have a conscience
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or the ability to care you don't have emotions or feelings and no one can hurt you anymore
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I sure as hell I'm no one special in fact I am damn far from it I'm nothing more than what life has
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made me I have made a lot of decisions in my life and it's sad to say most of those decisions were wrong
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ones I am not proud of the murders I did out there well to tell you the truth maybe I am a little proud of what I did
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I was a hard worker a truck driver forklift operator but it seems the best thing I
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ever learned how to do is take the life of another away from them there was several people that I killed that one
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might say that I feel bad about but most of them we're living on borrowed time I feel I may have done most of
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those drug addicted crack [ __ ] a favor I definitely help them to get off of drugs these are the words of convicted
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serial killer Joseph Roy [Music] methany Joseph Roy methany you heard me just describe him
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as a serial killer Captain you and I were talking about something the other day I thought it was an interesting
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conversation the old school of thought was that to be a serial killer you had to have killed three different people at
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three different times kind of the new school of thought is that a serial killer is somebody that kills two people
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yeah at two separate times um you had a feeling that you uh to to be lumped into
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that group you you're more of the old school of thought the you the three number three or more killings yeah but
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but what I can tell you is if you kill one person you get put in the category of real piece of [ __ ] well whether
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you're of the school of thought of three or more killings makes a serial killer or two or more right Joe methany kind of
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I mean you can't get any closer to three or more than what he did he was convicted of two killings plus an
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attempted uh attack that he did on a girl that he got 50 years for the problem with Joe though is he would
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confess to many more killings throughout the course of his life and actually you
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heard in the first trailer where he talked about a cold case that of a woman he had killed when he was a truck driver
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in this last trailer to this show you hear him talk about his first kill of when he was only a teenager himself
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killing a 12-year-old girl that he had followed into the woods and pulled her into the woods and this confession
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actually hasn't been proven true or false correct uh neither has the confession that he made to killing the
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woman when he was a truck driver we'll get back into that in a little bit because where we finished up yesterday
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was covering his trials well his second trial he was convicted and as we said he
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kind of went crazy telling the jury a bunch of horrible things that that he did to his victims well he gets
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sentenced to death in that trial and his lawyer is going to appeal the death sentence that Joe received now this
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would be appealed several times and this thing went pretty far up the chain from
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my understanding before they overturned his death sentence one of the deciding judges had this to say about overturning
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the decision I do agree that the sentence of death in this casee must be vacated Mr methany if the record in the
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statement he gave at his sentencing hearing are accurate he is a Serial murderer as such he is the ultimate
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characterization of evil there may well be many sincere proponents of the death penalty who would hold a position that
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death would be an appropriate penalty for Mr meth's actions the legislature however has not established serial
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murder as a death qualified offense in other words a person who commits two or more murders during one incident can be
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sentenced to death but a person who commits one murder a month for 12 months before he is apprehended making him a
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Serial murderer cannot be sentenced to death death in my view this is the judge's view the real reason the death
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sentence was sought in this case is that Mr methany was a heinous serial murder because serial murder is not a death
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qualified offense in this state the state of Maryland right the prosecution sought the death penalty on the premise
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that Mr methany robbed the victim when he buried the victim's clothing and purse separate from her body this
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strategy which was successfully employed by the state in the Circuit Court stretches Maryland's death penalty
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statute beyond the scope of intended but what was intended by the legislature well ah yeah but this is the problem is
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the justice system you know whether it's in this country or other countries there's some really stupid things there
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are um and you know unfortunately that judge has to just uphold the laws in his State as they are created
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yeah um and and I think he did that in my opinion in this case as much as I would have liked to have seen you know
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I've I've come out on here and said certain people do deserve the death penalty I'm not I'm not saying that I'm
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for it at all times but I think this Joe methany is a real monster and I don't know that there's any value in just
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holding him somewhere right but it's it's ridiculously stupid right it's stupid to to think that you know oh you
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killed two people at one time you deserve the death penalty you killed 400 people in four days one at a time yeah
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separate times oh you you just you hey we'll give you five years you know I I don't know it's just ridiculous right
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right um I want to give before we go through some of his confessions and some information that
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Joe would provide to us cuz I want to look at those and I want you and I to take a look at them and determine which
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ones at what times do we think he's telling the truth and at what times do we think that he's lying because you
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have a guy here that's been convicted to multiple murders but he would ultimately
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go on to confess to like 10 different murders and it's very possible that he has done some or all of these well he
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lived a nomadic life and plus he had some nomadic jobs being a Long Hall trucker but I want to give a little
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further background on on Joe methany so we have a little insight into who he is and possibly how he became such an evil
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monstrous person mhm so we had to we going to dig a little deeper and see what else we can find because there is
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more here let's talk about meth's police record prior to these this attempted rape and the two murder convictions so
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meth's criminal record showed nothing more than you know nothing more serious than common assault drunk and disorderly
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conduct in an occasional barroom fight right common assault on who um I don't have the information on who the
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victims of these these uh I bet money some of that is females it's possible but he could also have common assault
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charges stemming from barroom fights right um but so the thing here is we don't see
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anything in his background pointing towards the this you know escalated behavior of this attempted rape and the
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two murders but what is not on his record his record will not show this this is something we have to discuss this is
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from an event that took place in 1995 Joe was charged with killing two 33-year-old homeless men this is Randall
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Brewer and Randy [ __ ] the court record stated that the motive for the double homicide was a supposed Turf dispute
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between rival homeless camps mhm I didn't know such things existed uh both men both of the randies the the victims
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had been mauled with a wood Cutter's axe that methany kept under a rotting sofa at his Patapsco area camp ultimately Joe
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methany was acquitted of the murders in Baltimore Circuit Court get this the um the jurors sent the judge a note during
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deliberation yeah if you like me Circle yes if you don't Circle no I always put a maybe on
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there too just in case I want a I want a hard answer tell it to me straight judge do
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you love me or you not are you going to take me to the eighth grade dance or not
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judge that's what I want to know I would like to go to fr's Big Boy uh the the letter the note that they sent to the
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judge during deliberations suggested that they thought that another homeless man other than Joe was responsible for
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the killings okay so I bring that up because we were talking about other things that Joe may have confessed to
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and if in fact he did the other murders that he's confessing to well methany would later claim that he in fact did
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commit these killings that he did kill these two homeless men after a night of drinking beer okay well and we also know
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like we said before we know that he was homeless at a time we know he lived in like Tent City so is
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it you know that puts him in that kind of community right and was he defending himself or defending him Turf I don't
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know I'm not going to give this scumbag any excuses so well I can give you his uh confession to those murders if you'd
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like to hear it nah well I just jok I we we need we need to include it in the show um so this is strange though
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Captain because where this confession comes from is apparently Joe was paid $300 and it's been reported I haven't
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been able to figure out which website paid him $300 but a website offered him $300 to confess to um some other murders
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they had they had at some point spoke with him and he had said you know I've killed other people and I'm sure there
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was some negotiating going back and forth trying to get this information for their website I found this confession on
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multiple websites so I don't know who out of those paid him I'm not going to get into that I think it's weird to be
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paying these guys anything when they're locked up anyway yeah but this is Joe meth's words and he says to start out I
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will tell you about myself at the present moment which is locked up I am 48 years old I weigh about 450 lbs and
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it's not all fat I've been locked up for almost 8 years now but when one has been
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sentenced to a couple life sentences without parole time doesn't matter anymore I have no problem with being
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locked up for no one put me here but myself and I deserve to be right where I'm at cuz I had 12 law-abiding jurors
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that told me so I was only convicted of two murders and one kidnapping for The One That Got
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Away I got 50 years for her the first first murder I was sentenced to life without parole the second one they gave
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me the death penalty I sat on maryn's death row for 3 years and then they overturned my sentence and gave me
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another life without parole and sent me down here for the rest of my life I killed seven people Three Men and four
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women two men I chopped up with an axe under a bridge in South Baltimore I was found not guilty for them cuz they
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couldn't prove I did it under that same bridge I also killed two women and one man who was fishing who just happened to
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be in the wrong place at the wrong time I weighed their bodies down and I put them in that River I showed the police
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where I put them about 3 years later but they couldn't find them so they could not charge me for those murders my
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murder Rampage started out as Revenge but ended up as a passion for the taste of blood and the overwhelming sense of
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power one gets from taking the life of another it started back in July of 1994 I was at work I was a truck driver
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I was working overtime this one night then I got off and I went home as I always did but when I opened the door
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and turned on the light I noticed that there was nothing there my old lady had taken everything including my son and
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left me her leaving was not my problem but she took my 6-year-old son with her she was a crack addict I would have paid
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her to get out of my life all she had to do was take my son to my mother's house
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and she could have had everything else and be gone I found out about 6 months later she had moved on the other side of
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town with some guy that had her selling herself for drugs they got busted and they took my son away from them for
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child neglect and child abuse I had no chance of going to social services and trying to get my son back
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due to my past criminal record so I took it upon myself with the hatred I had for
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these two who had lost my son to go looking for them I had found out from someone that they was living under a
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bridge and getting high with some homeless guys who lived under that bridge I went under there looking for
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them they were not there but the two homeless guys they got high with were down there they were passed out on some
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old ining mattress and that is where I left them except they were dead from being chopped
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up that same night I lured a crack addicted woman under the bridge I got her high and I was trying to get
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information out of her about where my old lady was she acted like she didn't know so I beat the hell out of her raped
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and killed her I put her in some bushes and I went and I lured a second woman down there I did the same to her as the
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last one but as I was about to throw her in the bushes with the other one I noticed an old man down by the river
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fishing looking back up at me I grabbed a steel pipe that was laying by and I ran down on him and I laid his head wide
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open so I put the two girls and him in the river and weighed them down with rocks that was a very busy night for me
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five murders within 7 hours I washed up in the river and I cleaned up the crime scene as much as I could
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then I left 2 and 1/2 Weeks Later I was arrested in charge with the murders of two men that I had chopped up I spent
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close to 18 months in Baltimore City Jail waiting to go to trial the trial lasted 1 week and it was thrown out of
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court because of lack of evidence I was free again I went back and I talked to my old boss asked him to give me my old
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job back at The Pallet Company there was a little trailer on the property so I told my boss to let me stay there and I
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would keep an eye on the place he agreed to this and gave me the keys to the front gate in the main building the
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company was on a dead end road and it was very isolated it was perfect for what I wanted to do I lured two women up
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to that trailer I killed and butchered their bodies up I cut the meat up and I put it in some Tupperware bowls and then
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put it in the freezer I buried the remains in several shallow graves in a little woods behind the company over the
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next couple weeks on the weekends I opened up a little open pit beef stand I had real roast beef and pork sandwiches
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and why not they were very good the human body tastes very similar to Pork if you mix it together no one can tell
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the difference everything was going pretty good until I ran out of my special meat so I lured another woman up
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to my trailer I got her in there and I started to rip her clothes off and knocking the hell out of her she was
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screaming but there was no one around to hear her except for me and I just kept on laughing at her I turned around for a
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split second and that was my mistake for she ran out the door before I could get
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to her there was a chainlink fence with Barb Wire on top of it there was a stack of wooden pallets
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next to the fence about 10 ft high that woman scaled those pallets like a monkey
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and jumped the fence ran down to the main road where some guy picked her up well I knew the cops were
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on their way but I didn't run I gathered up her clothing grabbed the keys to the
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gate and I went out and opened it soon as I step out of the gate a cop car pulled up and the cop jumped out and
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pulled his gun on me and told me to get on the ground and that is where it all came to an end they took me down and
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booked me she had told them that I said I was going to kill her like the rest which was true they had me sitting in a
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little room down at homicide drilling me and damn near kissing my ass trying to find out what I had done they pulled me
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out of City Jail every day for about a month taking me back and forth between the company and the bridge I had them
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going crazy at the company digging up the remains cuz I had the remains buried in seven different holes the only thing
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I feel bad about in any of this is I didn't get to murder the two I was really after and that's my ex- old lady
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cheers we're talking about Joe methan yes not to be confused and not related to the great jazz guitar
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player Pat maeni well after that confession that I just read captain that was posted on the
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internet people started calling Joe methany the cannibal killer and I've heard rumor that this other name was
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created by Joe himself he started calling himself the real life Hannibal Lector now I want to get into a little
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more of an understanding of these sandwiches these quote unquote sandwiches that he claims he was making
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using parts of his victim victims mixing with beef and pork and then selling them
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to people that he knew mhm that confession was from the internet you know somebody had paid him for that
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confession where we get this next bit of information comes from letters that he wrote to a pen pal while he was serving
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his sentence his life sentence and these letters he describes this stating that this all took place at or near the
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borderline bar that place that we know that he hung out at all the time he stated that he would get his paycheck
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cash there every Friday after work and a lot of people would go to the borderline
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on Sundays and they would walk over to meth's barbecue stand and grab a sandwich and then walk back to the
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Border L Bar eat the sandwich and then wash it down with a beer while watching sports on
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TV Joe provided his pen pal with the recipe stating that he would first go out and look for a woman working the
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streets of Baltimore he has stated that these types make for the perfect victim as he puts it because no one seems to
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care about them they disappear but they are not really missing he pretty much had the same Mo in a lot of these cases
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that took place leading up to his eventual capture he would bring the woman back to the trailer late at night
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because there was really no one walking through that area his words no one could
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hear the woman screaming as he was attacking her other than him which was fine with him because he liked to hear
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them scream and like you said before he surrounded the whole trailer with piles and piles of of skids yes of the pallets
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so that probably acted as some kind of sound barrier correct he said if he would have enough
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energy he would torture the hell out of those women now I'm not going to go into
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anywhere near the amount of detail that methany has used to describe the deaths of these poor women right but some of
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them he basically according to him took them to the woods and would field dress them like you would a deer or something
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that you were hunting for food he would use a hacksaw to remove pieces of meat that he wanted from the the victim he
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said that he would only use the backs of the arms and legs he would then take the
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meat and he would cut it up put it in a bowl and rinse it real clean then he would fill the bowl with water a cup of
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salt and a cup of red wine then let it sit for about 4 hours then wash it one more time then rub it down with a little
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pepper and tenderizer he said he would then throw it on the grill with some beef and pork
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meat he would mix it with the other meats and then make and sell sandwiches so according to Joe methany
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he was not only killing these women but he was chopping them up and selling them
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to people he knew at the borderline bar and people that would walk over to his open pit barbecue stand yeah one of the
00:34:47
many um more extravagant let's say uh confessions that this man has made and to kind of put these confessions into
00:34:57
some form into some order so we can look at him we first have the confession of his first kill when he says he's 15
00:35:05
years old and he killed the 12-year-old girl yeah then later he would state that
00:35:10
on from what I could find there was actually three separate confessions where he said that he had picked up a
00:35:19
girl working one of these truck stop lots and had killed her while he was a truck driver then in life we know that
00:35:28
he was married he had his son and he went out looking for his wife who had left him to kill her and ends up finding
00:35:37
these two homeless guys kills the homeless guys and then that same night he kills two girls that are working the
00:35:44
street because he thought maybe they would know where his ex-wife was yeah and then they he has to kill this guy
00:35:51
that's fishing in the river because the guy saw him the guy saw him do do it and
00:35:57
then we know that we have at least the two murders that he was convicted of and the one attack on the girl while he was
00:36:05
living at the trailer and then claiming that he was cutting up the bodies and selling them as
00:36:10
sandwiches so a lot of words coming from this guy and a lot of people have stated
00:36:16
you know what he's just a liar you know he's just he's just a scumbag that killed two women got locked up for life
00:36:24
and then just lied about all this stuff I have some questions here I have some I
00:36:30
have some thoughts and Curiosities as to are all of these lies because a lot of these confessions that we hear from him
00:36:39
that we see from him and mind you some of these were not provided to law enforcement some of these were provided
00:36:46
to pen pals that he acquired while he was in prison or he was paid for him that's
00:36:54
correct but a lot of these are very detailed confessions so I question the validity
00:37:02
of any of them I look at the first one when he talks about his first kill when he's 15 and and the 12-year-old girl
00:37:11
yeah now I didn't I didn't do like some super digging here but looking for somebody to have
00:37:20
gone missing to have been reported missing that was approximately that age in that area
00:37:27
at that time I couldn't find anybody you know that's assuming that Joe's telling us the truth telling us
00:37:35
the truth about the girl's age and about the time yeah I think it's a partial truth you know but if he if he is
00:37:43
telling the truth there's no one that went missing at that time and with it being as he said a 12-year-old girl
00:37:49
12-year-old victim that's somebody that I would assume to have been reported missing rather than some of some of his
00:37:56
later victims in life may have been estranged from their families and never reported
00:38:02
missing so there doesn't seem to be any indication that that in fact is true or his first kill now we do know according
00:38:11
to his confession that he sold to the website according to that confession his first kill was the two homeless men
00:38:19
right so we have him contradicting himself you said something earlier and I think you really keyed in on something
00:38:27
that is that is very apparent here regardless of when this started this murderous Rampage started for Joe
00:38:35
methany he definitely to do the things he has done he has a deep hatred for women maybe a specific kind of woman I
00:38:43
don't know but he definitely has a deep hatred for for women what what point in in his life did this start I'm not
00:38:51
certain I can't say with any certainty what I suspect here Captain is that that first kill that he says that he did to
00:38:58
the 12-year-old girl yeah I wonder if that was just a fantasy yeah that's what I believe I wonder if that was a
00:39:05
something he had fantasized about maybe even to the point where he had targeted a victim or maybe even
00:39:13
followed this girl like he said he had followed her several times just too young to go through with it yeah or or
00:39:21
maybe he did assault her right you know but just didn't kill her that one to me confession comes off to me to be a
00:39:28
fantasy where I do think that we start to see some truths though are where we talk about when he was a long haul
00:39:37
trucker out on out on the road for several days or weeks at a time and he's picking up these girls that are working
00:39:45
these different lots and he's claiming that he's killed them and buried some of them now I could find three confessions
00:39:54
and throughout those three confessions talking about those types of crimes he would have had four
00:39:59
victims one of them would have been a daughter of one of the uh women working the lock mhm here's what I think in
00:40:08
these situations Captain he did later provide names for these people I think that if these people if there were
00:40:17
people that he actually killed in this manner if there were women that he actually killed in this manner he may
00:40:22
have used false names when when later reported this yeah or just didn't know the name my guess is that I'm guessing
00:40:32
that this is probably where his killing may have started and it's it's I have nothing to
00:40:38
base this off of other than a bit of a numbers game you know in 2004 the FBI they they Unleashed their Long Haul
00:40:46
trucker serial killer initiative to the public where they started explaining to us that you know we can come up with
00:40:53
about 5 to 600 different victims that We Believe have been killed by these different serial killer truck drivers
00:41:02
yeah and the FBI stating back in 2004 that there's possibly 200 of these people types of killers out roaming the
00:41:10
interstates and in the highways of this great country and I scary right and I so I'm
00:41:17
just kind of playing a numbers game here I don't know that he killed those four people I don't know that all three of
00:41:21
those confessions are accurate or truth but I think that he's probably trying to tell us that that's probably
00:41:31
where this began for him he probably killed one maybe two women while he was out on the road and then when he came
00:41:39
back here he tried to establish his life back here he had a wife he had a local job where he didn't have to be gone for
00:41:48
weeks at a time yeah he had a son that I don't know how he treated the son but according to his words he seemed to care
00:41:54
about him to the point of at least where he was upset and angered that the son was taken from him I wonder if there's
00:42:01
any truth to their being a son there is a son okay uh uh he does exist he's alive he's alive now what I think about
00:42:11
that confession regarding the homeless men the two women under the bridge and the man fishing mhm I really think he
00:42:19
probably killed those two homeless men I don't know I don't know what to think about the two women under the bridge or
00:42:26
the guy fishing well the other thing too is when you're drinking that much booze
00:42:31
and you're doing that many drugs you know what part of his reality you know was some of this stuff you know
00:42:40
just dreams he had or was or did he black out I mean how much does he actually remember about his existence
00:42:49
right but the reason why I say that I think he killed those two homeless men is you know they had some kind of
00:42:55
evidence to make that that arrest 2 and 1/2 weeks after they were killed yeah it
00:43:00
wasn't enough evidence to make a trial out of it or to bring him to court for it or I'm sorry to get a conviction for
00:43:06
that but later he goes on to confess to it I I think he did it I think there's probably there was proof beforehand and
00:43:13
then later we have him confessing to it he's got nothing to lose he was acquitted he can't be charged with it
00:43:18
again and tried again now the thing with the women and and the guy fishing I've heard from some local people and I don't
00:43:26
forgive me if this is wrong I can only go off of what these people have told me they've told me they would be shocked
00:43:33
that anyone would fish in that River at all right um I know here in Ohio we have
00:43:38
some rivers that nobody would fish in yeah um so three-eyed fish so the some of the local people don't believe
00:43:46
portions of this confession or all of it because of that simple fact the other thing you tapped into something good
00:43:52
there too talking about his mental state is there a chance that in some kind of homicidal rage he killed these two
00:43:58
homeless men and then blacked out and maybe dreamt that that that that he continued to kill I mean you're talking
00:44:06
about he says it would have been five victims in the course of seven or seven and a half hours right which is very
00:44:12
much like American Psycho right so here again I think we have some partial truth
00:44:19
to to his confessions and then these later confessions we know he killed these women um is is there potentially
00:44:27
one or two more that we don't know about I doubt it he seemed to talk a lot he seemed to tell us a lot of maybe even
00:44:34
fake crimes um and he seemed to keep the bodies he seemed to be lazy about the disposal of the bodies is what it
00:44:41
appears to me yeah I think he was just a lazy person in general and the thing for
00:44:46
the sandwiches um so I mean what's interesting here is I question whether or not there was even a stand that he
00:44:57
sold these at but you said that there is there's definite evidence or Witnesses of
00:45:05
this even better there are um some people that used to work at the same company with Joe and
00:45:13
people that used to go to the borderline bar that not only witnessed this but said they have purchased these
00:45:20
sandwiches from Joe ah and so you have some of the people that are like it's all made up he's you know he's he's just
00:45:28
pulling our chain and then you have some people that are like I'm not certain but
00:45:33
I I'm afraid that I probably ate human flesh all right here's what I think so so we do know we
00:45:42
have some proof that the the barbecue stand existed yeah and I was with you I questioned that it have had even existed
00:45:49
at all because if you Google some pictures of Joe methany I'm not buying any food from this guy I don't care I'm
00:45:58
why not why not have you seen his crazy face he's got a crazy you know a heavier
00:46:05
set you know Chef oh I don't mind a heavy set Chef Norm knows what they're doing yeah I don't like a skinny Chef is
00:46:11
what I don't like but I also don't like crazy face Chef anyway I I think that ugly face I
00:46:20
think that he sold the sandwiches as we have the witnesses that say that I think
00:46:24
we have a situation here Captain where his world got very small Joe meth's World got very small he got addicted to
00:46:32
drugs he became hardcore alcoholic and at some point he lived and worked at the same place he walked down the street to
00:46:41
the nearest bar to cash his check and sat on a stool every night in there and when he wasn't in there he was back in
00:46:47
his trailer doing drugs his whole world was that little city block and I think his way at the end to you know all these
00:46:57
people later are going to talk about him oh he's locked up he's arrested oh we he
00:47:02
was nice he was this he was that but in the end Joe can go to all say to all those people or think to himself all
00:47:09
those people I had the last laugh on you yeah I might be locked up I might be serving life in prison I had the last
00:47:15
laugh on you because I sold you sandwiches that had human flesh in them yeah there's not a lot of evidence of
00:47:23
this in the autopsies you're right there has been no statements from law enforcement to back
00:47:29
up his claim or to deny his claim that might just be be protecting the citizens and also protecting the victims as well
00:47:39
my guess is it's a lie right you know and and and I think you know what evidence we have of this is like you
00:47:47
said there's not evidence of such in the autopsies he described how he removed the the the meat quote unquote meat that
00:47:55
he us um but we don't see any indication of that in the findings well it's clear
00:48:01
from his first the confession about the 12-year-old where he is rejected or he feels rejected by a girl or maybe
00:48:11
multiple girls right he probably was rejected later in life by uh women and probably just Society in general and I
00:48:21
think again that shows his hatred maybe his hatred came from his mother I'm I'm not really for sure hatred of women came
00:48:28
from his mother but what I think these confessions and when people are actually now listening to him I feel like that
00:48:37
was you know he knows he's locked away he did have some accept acceptance from his employers mhm um or
00:48:46
co-workers and now that he's in jail other than the inmates nobody really wants to talk to him he seemed like he
00:48:52
had some intelligence so by talking to you know people that run websites or pin Pals or whatever maybe it just felt like
00:49:01
I have to keep giving them something and that's a form of acceptance and that's kind of what they
00:49:07
want so I'm just going to play into that so I get some kind of acceptance that's
00:49:11
how that's my gut feeling on some of the the crazy stuff he talks about but what's really hard to deny is that he
00:49:19
did have certain confessions that were almost 100% truthful right so it's like you kind of keep that in the back of
00:49:26
your head like well there's not Time After Time After Time where you find out that Joe is a is a liar mhm so uh I hope
00:49:36
for the obviously the victim's sake and then anybody that uh bought a sandwich that that that statement is false Joe
00:49:45
methany was a serial killer that I had never heard of until fairly recently 6 seven8 months ago something like that
00:49:53
started looking into his story a while back and even though he was the serial killer that I had never heard of
00:50:00
he's certainly one that after reading these stories and these newspaper articles yeah uh he's certainly one that
00:50:07
I won't forget um and I don't mean that in a good way uh but Joe has passed away um
00:50:15
he did die in prison at the age of 62 last year in August uh he was serving his life sentences in the western
00:50:24
Correctional Institute in Cumberland Maryland uh prison officials found him dead and unresponsive in his cell he was
00:50:33
described by prison officials to be morbidly obese at the time of his death and is believed that he died from a
00:50:40
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