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in part one we discussed The Disappearance of 34 year old Micah holsenbake The Disappearance of
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20-year-old Bailey despot and the drive-by shooting of murder victim age 38 James Carlstadt two missing one
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killed all within 33 days of another the families of the three were United drawing media attention and working with
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police in mid-2019 police said the cases were in fact connected after the horrific discovery of the arm inside the
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duffel bag murder victim Micah his father Lance holsenbake said that the family thought that they would feel
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better once they knew what happened to Micah but the knowledge that he was dismembered was hard to take his mother
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Cheryl said quote it's really difficult to not only know that your child was killed but that someone thought so
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little of them that they dismembered them and threw them out like trash the other question is they're not able to
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tell us whether he was dismembered when he was alive or post-mortem one year after she last heard from her
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daughter Bailey Jane said quote I cry more I go to counseling it's just hard not knowing where your kid is and
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thinking she's possibly chopped up like Micah end quote James's mother said that the three moms
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had become very close during their time together and they lifted each other up the three had lobbied the Kern County
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Board of Supervisors to fund the secret Witness Program of the Kern County Sheriff's Office to facilitate anonymous
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tips Jane was determined to find her daughter Bailey and suspicious of Bailey's boyfriend that she was living with
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Matthew Queen Jane was right to be concerned and suspicious as just mentioned Queen had
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two pending criminal cases against him at this time and both were for being a felon in possession of a firearm these
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charges were brought after bayley and Micah disappeared and he would soon rack up more charges well let's take a look
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at what one FBI profiler said about this case yes Captain as we mentioned an episode of Dr Phil of the Dr Phil show
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which aired in January 2019 brought national attention to the Bakersfield 3 case now a former FBI profiler named
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Candace De Long addressed the case positing that one person killed Micah and was also involved in Bailey's
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disappearance and someone else connected to that same killer shot James quote there is a connection between the three
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they ran in the same circles they knew some of the other parties involved and those other parties were involved in
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criminal Behavior gun running illegal gun sales and drug sales end quote that's what Delong said she also said
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that she believed bayley knew what happened to Micah and that in turn put her in danger the same man probably
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ordered the hit on James Ms Delong must have had inside information because her profile of the
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killer was eerily accurate she said he was a white male 35 to 40 who cohabits with a woman and also has kids quote
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he's a violent guy and people know that he's a scary guy he's also smart and dangerous and quote he likely drives a
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macho car well I'm no expert I'm just a captain but it sounds to me as if the profiler is describing Matthew
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Queen I think that spot on my friend by January 2019 some information started to
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trickle out about the Bakersfield 3 case which was being worked by Bakersfield Police Department at the time with the
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assistance of the Kearns County Sheriff's Office so in June of 2018 the Sheriff's Office executed a search
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warrant the news agency KGET reported that the search warrant revealed that law enforcement was investigating bayley
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Micah and Matthew queen as well as three others for manufacturing and selling illegal guns remember Micah had told his
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dad that he was providing guns for people before he went missing James was shot and killed leaving the home of a
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doctor who was arrested on illegal gun charges Bailey had been arrested with Matthew Queen in December of 2017 on gun
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charges the guns that were found in Matthew Queen's vehicle when they were pulled over it was beginning to look
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like one big gun conspiracy for the baker's field three Jane told KGET quote the stuff they were involved in these
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people know they all know each other it's a big circle of criminal activity over here in Rosedale in July of 2019
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your boy Matthew Queen Captain was arrested again charges unrelated to bayley but these
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are still very serious and scary charges they were kidnapping burglary manufacturing and assault weapon
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possession of a firearm by a felon and resisting arrest and those weren't all there were also charges of assault on a
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person with Force causing great bodily injury making threats with intent to terrorize and brandishing a deadly
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weapon other than a firearm that last charge is particularly frightening to me I don't know exactly what that means but
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here's a rundown of that incident captain while out on bail he's already in trouble now he's out on
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bail and he's still up to no good after the December 2017 gun arrest in January Matthew Queen and two others
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went to the home of Caleb sealer sealer was involved in illegal gun manufacturing and drug dealing along
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with Matthew Queen Matthew Queen and his cronies were granted access to the home by sealer's
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roommate somehow they either pushed their way in or the roommate let them in my guess here Captain is
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that the roommate felt extremely threatened or saw guns and said you know what I'm not getting killed today
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Matthew Queen is wearing a bulletproof vest he's now in sealer's room Caleb sealer's bedroom right and he's waving a
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gun and yelling sealer when Matthew Queen walks into this room is actually asleep with his girlfriend
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so he starts to wake up he wakes up to see this dude and a couple guys with him Matthew queens in a bulletproof vest
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waving a gun and shouting threats at him and his girlfriend Matthew Queen accused Caleb sealer of
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snitching to the cops about Queens possessing guns resulting in the December arrest so
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here's one thing that's really would be very interesting to know about this story because this situation of Matthew
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Queen and Bailey despot getting pulled over in that car and all those guns being found
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in the vehicle seems to be a really big kicking off point or one of the kicking off points in this
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whole case right the information I would like to know and I know this is probably
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going to come out sooner rather than later and we'll get into that here in a minute
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but the information I would like to know is why were they pulled over why was that vehicle pulled over because
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it's pulling them over that leads the cops to finding all those guns in the car now we have to look at this through
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Matthew's perspective Matthew Queen he again is either paranoid because he's up to all this criminal activity or
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paranoid because of the criminal activity and drugs it gets very difficult to say but what what the issue
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is here Captain is that we don't know why that vehicle is pulled over and I would love to know why
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because Matthew Queen seems to believe that his car was targeted and he was targeted because somebody snitched on
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him that ratted him out that hey this guy's got all these illegal guns and maybe they just pulled him over
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willy-nilly or found a reason to pull him over because they knew guns were inside yeah if if somebody calls in a
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tip to law enforcement yes you can't just they can't just go pull over that vehicle but they can follow you and they
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can nitpick any little thing that you do wrong oh yeah you turn and he didn't use
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your turn signal oh we thought you got a little too close to that curb you're not
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wearing your seatbelt right you sneeze the wrong way yeah you're picking your nose a little too deep so again it would
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be interesting to find out why he was pulled over because that whole incident is what leads us to
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this portion of our story where he's now in this Caleb sealer's bedroom waving a
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gun wearing a bulletproof vest threatening this dude it's because he accuses Caleb of
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snitching to the cops about him possessing guns that resulting in his December arrest
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he also accused Caleb of ratting him out about the location of a gun safe he then forced Caleb into a Chevy
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Silverado at gunpoint where Matthew Queen sat behind him holding a gun to his head during the drive and
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perbakersfield.com one of the victims roommates said he looked scared to death that Caleb looked scared to death as he
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was forced into this Chevy Silverado it's said that they drove around the city with Matthew Queen interrogating
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Caleb about all kinds of different things threatening him and saying things like he was going to smoke him right now
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one topic that seemed to be of concern to Matthew Queen was the identity of an individual whose name was redacted in
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police reports Matthew Queen had these police reports in his hand while he's in the back of the Silverado gun to Caleb's
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head threatening him he's got the police report and it says who snitched on him but that name has been blacked out he
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can't see he who snitched on him well he's of the belief that Caleb possibly could have been the person
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whose name was blacked out from those police reports Matthew Queen tells Caleb that the snitch could only have been one
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of two people it was either him Caleb or it was who he was then referring to as his ex-girlfriend Bailey right so they
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eventually drove to the river on a van down by the river and Matthew Queen forced Caleb to walk into the river
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with the gun muzzle pressed against his head but for whatever reason Matthew didn't shoot Caleb it's not
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clear why he would let him go but first he took the cell phone batteries from both Caleb and his
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girlfriend remember she was in the the bedroom with Caleb he took the cell phone batteries out of both of their
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cell phones Caleb this guy he was so scared he later told investigators that the two of them left town he and his
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girlfriend just left town he stated that he did not want to stay in Bakersfield for any reason at all because he was
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afraid of what Matthew Queen could do to him this is a scary situation right and
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this and this information is going to get back to law enforcement yeah somehow it's not clear who reported it I have a
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hard time believing that it would be Caleb or the girlfriend because they clearly just wanted to get out of Dodge
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and it may be fact it may be the truth that somebody else filed this report and later police found Caleb and or the
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girlfriend and interviewed them at that time but somehow this whole kidnapping threatening to kill Caleb story makes
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its way to the police and in July the police decide well we're going to go talk to this Matthew Queen guy about
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this specific incident so when they showed up at a construction site that Matthew Queen was working at he sees
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police he decides to run he's jumping fences and scrambling over obstacles we have uh pieces of the charging
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documents here that say he being Matthew right disregarded numerous commands from officers climbed
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over several fences onto the roof of a business and ultimately entered the river where he continued to ignore
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officers commands for more than one hour it almost sounds like a little bit of a
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standoff here right Captain so this Matthew guy he's he literally jumped into the river and he's clinging to one
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of those concrete pillars later charging documents allege that while resisting arrest he tried to he's like egging the
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officers on trying to get them to shoot him oh come on if Queen was a black man they would have shot him when he's first
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started running and jumping those fence and now he's taunting them there should be like a taunting penalty like there is
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in the NFL you taunt the police too much they get to hit you with their billy clubs this Matthew Queen is a lunatic
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yes yes the lunatic in in amongst other things as well now Matthew Queen knew that he was cornered he eventually
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surrenders in this situation afterward they searched his home in his car and of course they found a handgun like that
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described by Caleb a non-registered semi-automat Matic rifle was also found and a loaded 30 round high capacity
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magazine and they found drugs as well now as a felon Matthew Queen was not supposed to be in possession of any guns
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and he was already on bail for the December 2017 weapons arrest this guy gets in trouble he continues to get in
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trouble and even when he's threatened with jail time prison time he's going to continue to get in trouble because
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he's a career criminal he's a person that's just going to offend and reoffend again and again and what we're also
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seeing here Captain is this dude is going to go and enforce amongst others when he is threatened
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with punishment he's going to threaten punishment on those that he think may have led police to him right a very
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dangerous person because they they have nothing in their life they have nothing to lose and they have no care in the
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world nor do they have any empathy for anybody or these career criminals like this they're almost a just a different
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breed of human right it's almost like they're not really human at all right um they don't share the same brains or
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Souls that the rest of us do so Matthew Queen he ends up being held on bail of over one million dollars thankfully on
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two firearm possession charges and one charge of ammo possession more charges were piled on this in December late
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December December 31st to be exact including two counts of possession of an assault rifle and two counts of
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possession of a firearm and ammo by a felon police still had not charged Matthew Queen in any of the Bakersfield
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three cases though nor had they even named him as a suspect or a person of interest by this point now that he was
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locked up they could take their time and the families felt more at ease now that they
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could help work the case with police and that this Matthew Queen could not hurt anyone
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else yeah and because he's behind bars that you also that hope that other people then come forward with more
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information yes and it that's when you Circle back and you start questioning people that you have tried or attempted
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to interview before and you're starting off the new conversation with going you do know we
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have Matthew Queen in custody and he's not getting out now we need to talk to you about this
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this and this yeah because you could give us more information that keeps them away from everybody else and keeps
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everybody safe and and possibly locks them up for the rest of his life and you may the risk of retaliation by Matthew
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queen that has diminished greatly now the problem though captain that the uneasy feeling that many are still going
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to have is clearly what we're seeing here by this point in our story it's obvious to
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everyone that a lot of these people are running in these circles that involve a lot of criminal activity
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and so you have Matthew Queen who obviously seems to be some kind of enforcer some kind of psychopath
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but you know he might not be the only one Within These circles that you need to be afraid of so it's a really it's I
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mean it's just really a horrible horrible situation that no one would want to find themselves in the middle of
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in May of 2020 there was a huge announcement from the Kern County's DA's office a massive investigation including
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DNA testing cell phone triangulation wiretaps prison call recordings multiple search warrants social media review and
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scores of interviews resulted in many criminal charges here is the press release in its entirety on Wednesday May
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27 2020 district attorney Cynthia Zimmer was joined by Bakersfield Police Department chief Greg Terry and
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announcing the filing of first-degree murder charges against Matthew Queen and Bailey desk spot for their alleged roles
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in the 2018 killing of Michael holsenbake James colstad Michael holsenbake and Bailey despot have been referred to as
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the baker's field three as they were a group of connected people who were either killed or went missing in 2018.
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the murder charges are part of criminal filing that includes 34 criminal charges
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encompassing alleged criminal conduct that ranges from December 2017 through July of 2019.
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in addition to the alleged first-degree murder of holsenbake Matthew Queen and Bailey despot are both charged with a
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conspiracy to murder and torture wholesome Bank as well as with the actual torture and kidnapping of
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wholesome Bank despot and queen are also jointly charged in with the unlawful manufacturing of assault weapons the
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majority of the additional charges pertain to Queen and include criminal threats kidnapping assault with a
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firearm and other unlawful and other unlawful weapons charges although bayley despot has been reported missing since
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2018 there is no known physical evidence that definitively confirms her possible
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death as a result of the filing of charges an arrest warrant will be issued for bayley despots arrest Matthew Queen
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is already in custody and will be arraigned on new charges some of the file charges against Queen are
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duplicative of several filed cases for which he is already in custody awaiting trial the filing of this case
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incorporates all of Queen's pending charges into the current filed case district attorney Cynthia Zimmer offered
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a reminder that an accused is presumed innocent until proven guilty in the court of law and commented about the
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dedicated work that led to the filing of charges and this extensive investigation
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saying quote this year's Long investigation was made possible by the combined efforts of the
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Bakersfield Police Department and the District Attorney's office our common goal is to never stop searching for
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answers on homicide crimes and our combined dedication to solving this case has never wavered end quote so this
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press release seems to indicate that not only do police have no clue what happened to Bailey right they seem to
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think it's possible that she is alive that she is on the run after being an accomplice to murder my customer
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favorite people in the world he's back I'm back good to be back cheers to everybody
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the other thing that we learn here Captain is what prosecutors are basically alleging well we learn a
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couple things don't don't do drugs don't sell illegal weapons don't be friends with somebody that
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sells illegal weapons don't be friends with somebody that sells illegal drugs the prosecutors are alleging that
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Matthew Queen procures and manufactures AR-15s using you know connections that he has
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in equipment at his disposal Bailey's involved in being involved with him and possibly advertising that this
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guy's making and selling weapons and Micah is the one that is believed to have actually sold
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these weapons or at least some of them now this is going to bring us to another person who ultimately is a third
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defendant because remember the state is charging Matthew Queen and missing Bailey despot both with murder
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charges so those are two defendants right now we have a third defendant and his name is Matthew Vandy Castile who was
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also charged with kidnapping and conspiracy prosecutors allege that Vandy cast steel was part of a criminal
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Enterprise with Matthew Queen with Micah and with Bailey they were illegally manufacturing guns including AR-15s and
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as you said selling drugs now when this guy was charged with conspiracy in connection with Micah's murder
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well Matthew van and Castile struck a deal with prosecutors he spoke to detectives while in Wasco State Prison
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serving time on unrelated charges here's what he had to say about what happened to Micah and what happened to Bailey
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this is all according to KGET who we've cited multiple times who we've said have
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done gangbusters work on this very complicated case they found the following through court documents and it
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says that Micah holsenbake was in way over his head he was dealing cocaine according to informants and he was also
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in debt to various dangerous groups like the Hell's Angels and air quotes the cartels he had made some seriously
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dangerous enemies then he allegedly stole a gun from Matthew Queen probably maybe even for self-protection
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and then this Vandy Castile told investigators that Micah had lifted a 44 revolver off of Matthew Queen and
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queen knew about it and was pissed one night toward the end of March 2018 Queen asked Vandy Castile if he could use his
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detached garage at his home this is an apartment at 3029 North Half Moon Drive in Bakersfield
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Matthew Queen and Bailey remember she's his living girlfriend at this time kidnap Micah at gunpoint they take him
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to Vandy castile's house where they had already prepared the garage for his arrival if you will right the
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plan here is to get information or get whatever they want from Micah and they might have to torture him in the process
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to get him to confess to the gun theft and tell them what they want to know so Bailey and Matthew Queen they zip tied
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Micah in this garage and they're questioning him in the garage for several hours Vandy
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Castile said he didn't see the victim and said as far as he knew they were just going to torture Micah to get him
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to talk he didn't know that they were going to kill him but he admitted that at one point Bailey
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came into the apartment where he was grabbed a paring knife and then returns to the garage then a second time she
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comes into the apartment grabs a pair of scissors now here we are quoting from KGET it says quote eventually despot
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this is Bailey re-entered vandicast Steele's apartment and was visibly shaken pale as a ghost and seemed
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flustered and responded to a back bedroom to change her clothing the documents say before despot and queen
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left queen told Vandy Castile that he had cleaned everything up and it was okay to go inside the garage
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Vandy Castile entered the garage and noticed a red grapefruit sized spot the Kern Regional crime lab later
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concluded the stain tested positive for blood that was a DNA match to Micah holsenbach the day after the garage
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incident Vandy Castile told police Matthew Queen returned to his residence and said he needed help disposing of
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Something Matthew Queen had a large black plastic storage container with a yellow lid in the rear of his SUV Vandy
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Castile stated he believed the storage container had a body inside but does not know that for a fact he told Matthew
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Queen he didn't want to leave his home and so Matthew Queen leaves good idea Vandy Castile yeah yeah don't leave
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don't go help dispose anytime somebody says I need help disposing of something the answer is always no nope it's Gotta
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Be always no I don't even want to know what you're disposing of well some people just need to dispose of old like
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TV set or maybe some video games or some comic books or baseball cards unless it's a
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large sum of cash I'm not helping you dispose of it you can dispose of it right into my account yeah so Queen
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returns to Vandy castille's residence several hours later this is after he left after you know Vandy Castillo won't
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help him dispose of something when he returns this is several hours later Matthew Queen's SUV was muddy as if he
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had driven It Off Road and Vandy Castile then finds out about Micah holsenbake missing two days later
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or at least what that's what he told the police now so let's be clear here it seems certain that Vandy Castile knew
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more about what was going on in his garage than what he's telling police right it seems like he was either lying
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about the extent of his involvement or he had deliberately looked the other way while this torture and murder occurred
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he says at least he tells police that hey I thought they were just going to torture Micah but what kind of freaking
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sentence is that what kind of statement is that to the police when you hear or have knowledge of torture doesn't any
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psycho reasonable logical psycho half intelligent person psycho know that that could end in Murder Psycho Killer right
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you don't just go oh they were just they were just going to torture him for a little bit no big deal no you always got
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to assume the possibility of that ending in Murder what if Micah or whoever the victim is doesn't tell them what they
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need to know or what they're looking to find out right or doesn't know the information there you go but police had
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no choice but to cut a deal with this vandicast deal guy and this is because they needed to
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secure his testimony so without it they might never have been able to put together a case against Matthew Queen
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now what's weird though is that they also charged Bailey according to Vandy Castile she was
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equally involved as Matthew Queen in this murder but it's odd right it's kind of a weird
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thing charging a missing person for murder seems as though it could be like some kind of tactic to get other
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jurisdictions to be on the lookout for this Bailey person dead or alive uh or maybe they're right maybe they
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they are correct and she is indeed On The Run running from future charges or potential charges of murder or possibly
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running from them right you just saw we don't know what her involvement is they they must have some kind of
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evidence I don't think they would just take this individual's words uh they might have Fingerprints of hers they
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might have her DNA if they know she's involved in this it's not that far out of the realm of possibility that she got
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spooked herself and then took off and she knows one if I if you if I come forward
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you're going to arrest me but if I come forward there's a possibility that somebody's going to hunt me down and
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torture me and murder me as well well and the other thing that I gotta believe too here Captain is you have a situation
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where you probably have all the circumstantial evidence against Matthew Queen for at least the murder of Michael
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holsenbake but if you're if your number one weapon for putting this guy away is Vandy castile's testimony
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well according to what he's telling you is that he not only witnessed Matthew Queen there in his detached
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garage but he also witnessed bayley there as well so if that's going to be your your
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number one Avenue for putting this guy away well you're going to need to imply that on the other person that he's
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saying was present as well right because if we're going to have a jury believe his story well then we need to
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believe his story and if we law enforcement believe his story then we better be charging everyone that he's
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naming as guilty parties so of course a warrant was issued for her arrest for Bailey's arrest but
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knowing what we know about Matthew Queen and what violent dangerous piece of [ __ ]
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this guy is it's really difficult for me to believe that Bailey got to walk away
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I agree and remember we have this other guy Caleb sealer who's saying when Matthew Queen was threatening me he
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had police documents he had the incident report that had a name blacked out of the person that ratted on Matthew Queen
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and this name is blacked out and Matthew Queen Is Telling Caleb as he's threatening him gunned to the Head
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standing in the river like dude all I got to do is pull this trigger and right where you drop is right where the body
00:35:50
will be disposed of you will fall right into the river and hopefully the current
00:35:53
will take you away that's a pretty big that's a pretty big threat we have this individual saying to police
00:36:02
that Matthew Queen told me that the name could only be one of two people me or Bailey so very difficult to believe that
00:36:10
Bailey got the opportunity to walk away here or that Matthew would let her walk away and
00:36:18
I think that a lot of this stuff that we've already discussed is indications that he didn't let her walk away well
00:36:25
like you said I mean they're they're suspicious of her but we have no evidence that she's still
00:36:31
alive they obviously don't have law enforcement doesn't have any evidence that she's dead but
00:36:38
that's where I'd lean towards and you're right they also don't seem to have evidence that she's alive either so
00:36:44
according to KGET Bailey was freaked out by the murder of Micah which she either
00:36:50
witnessed or actively participated in and Matthew Queen was worried that maybe Bailey was going to crack and rat him
00:36:58
out and then we have Vandy Castile who's going to testify against Matthew Queen he's telling police that everyone
00:37:05
including Matthew Queen believed that Bailey was a snitch and that she cooperated with law enforcement in
00:37:12
connection with the December 2017 case where she and Matthew Queen were arrested on those Firearms charges so
00:37:20
this Fanny Castile guy stated that after the murder bayley started falling apart
00:37:25
mentally and Matthew Queen probably thought she could not be trusted Fanny Castile told police he believed bayley
00:37:32
was disposed of because she knew what had taken place in Vandy castile's garage Matthew Queen denied any
00:37:39
involvement in Bailey's disappearance and it's not just that he said I didn't do it he told investigators that Bailey
00:37:47
had cartel connections through her father and that they probably did something to her and he suspected her of
00:37:55
working with law enforcement he said perhaps turning on him but he's not saying that she went into like some
00:38:02
Witness Protection Program he's saying that she had some connections with the cartel and once everybody figured out
00:38:09
that she uh snitched on everybody that somebody murdered her because of that exactly he's he's not giving any hope
00:38:16
that she's alive in fact he's saying that his belief is that she's dead but somebody else killed her no when you see
00:38:22
these shows like Ozark you just don't think this stuff is real and this is a real life case that could this could be
00:38:30
a Netflix series in a very recent case too as well and so these charging documents that we went through they
00:38:38
contain some more information about what possibly happened to Micah because remember at this point we only have the
00:38:45
arm recovered in the duffel bag so according to some informants his body was largely dissolved in acid others
00:38:54
reported that he was buried somewhere outside of Taft and remember how we said it seems likely that Vandy Castile
00:39:02
probably knew more or was more involved than what he's telling police well according to KGET detectives searched
00:39:11
Vandy castile's Gmail account and found it contained searches during the week of wholesome bake's
00:39:18
disappearance for lie chemical formula or lie for sale and how long does it take to dissolve a human body
00:39:27
specifically Vandy Castile or of course someone with access to his computer searched how long does it take to
00:39:35
dissolve a human body could you imagine being this type of individual and then deciding that you need a Gmail account
00:39:43
okay let's uh how about uh guns drugs boats and hoes at gmail.com well these charging documents also seem to imply
00:39:52
that Micah was not just killed over this little beef between him and Matthew Queen about a stolen gun
00:40:00
rather it seems possible that Matthew Queen was working for someone else or at least
00:40:06
acting on behalf of someone else when he took Micah out and this again per report
00:40:12
says several people told investigators that wholesome bake was dealing a large amount of cocaine the court filings say
00:40:19
and a couple witnesses surmised that he was killed over drugs and that there was
00:40:23
cartel type involvement so I mean who knows how how big this thing could get according to several witnesses Matthew
00:40:31
Queen had quite the reputation that's I mean I think it goes without saying at this point statement right I guess he
00:40:39
was known as The Boogeyman of Bakersfield booger everyone agreed that he was dangerous terrifying and not to
00:40:46
be messed with and ABC 23 reports that Witnesses told investigators that Micah was afraid of Matthew Queen and that
00:40:55
Matthew Queen may have kidnapped and threatened Micah in the past before he was kidnapped tortured and then
00:41:02
murdered so a separate incident so one witness says that in early 2008 she and Micah were hanging out at her mom's
00:41:11
house Matthew Queen shows up picks them up but instead of driving them to his house as I guess the plan was
00:41:18
he takes them to an orchard out in the sticks somewhere off of Renfro Road what a nice day she knew
00:41:26
that Matthew Queen had a beef with Micah not only had Micah stolen a gun from him
00:41:31
but he also owed Matthew Queen money Micah was worried that Queen was going to kill him so as Queen's driving Micah
00:41:39
jumps out of this moving vehicle and runs away he calls his friend Caleb sealer remember him we've already talked
00:41:46
about him and asked Caleb to come and pick him up but ended up getting arrested by a passing police officer and
00:41:52
it's I don't know exactly what the charges were Micah told Caleb after this incident that Matthew Queen had
00:41:59
kidnapped him at gunpoint once Micah was out of the car Matthew Queen takes the female we still have the girl that was
00:42:08
with Micah he takes her to that Orchard and he forces her to her knees while pointing an AR-15 at her
00:42:16
and asking her how she would like her child to grow up motherless he threatened to kill her if she didn't
00:42:22
tell him whether Bailey was faithful to him just Days Later police allege that Bailey and and Matthew Queen murdered
00:42:32
and dismembered Micah God this this guy's a real dangerous [ __ ] bag but we know that the bakerfields three are all
00:42:41
connected in some way but how does James's murder the drive-by shooting relate to the the other two right and
00:42:51
that's difficult because we have law enforcement that eventually do say that they believe that all three cases were
00:42:57
related and you know it it doesn't seem unlikely that Matthew queen or someone he knew
00:43:05
possibly took James out but charging documents State the detectives found no evidence linking
00:43:12
James's murder to that of Micah or to Bailey's disappearance so this is a newer development in this case now they
00:43:22
have said that the three of course traveled in the same circles and knew many of the same people so while it's
00:43:28
still possible these charging documents clearly State the detectives found no evidence linking
00:43:36
those two cases remember captain that we talked about how the families were an integral part of setting up that secret
00:43:44
witness hotline remember because we have possible Witnesses we have people that know these victims know the perpetrators
00:43:52
that probably do not want to talk to police because either they're worried about losing their own lives the threat
00:43:58
of violence or being tortured in the garage they may be committing crimes of their own even if they're just lower
00:44:05
level crimes they may not want to have much involvement with law enforcement because of the circles they run in well
00:44:11
one thing that these documents maintain is that once the secret witness hotline was set
00:44:20
up in in this case in the baker's field three case actually Matthew Queen was phoning in false tips
00:44:28
to the secret witness hotline right so he's basically throwing out their misinformation and false tips and trying
00:44:36
to lead police down different avenues that do not lead to him and they were able to put this together
00:44:42
based off of language that was used during the course of those tips and the times that they interviewed him where he
00:44:48
would use similar words similar statements and they were able to make that connection and I mean it really
00:44:55
seems it's a little dumb but it's also quite diabolical when you think about it it's
00:45:01
it's this this career criminal this enforcer this person that's going to retaliate against you
00:45:09
and he's going to go to all these efforts to cover up his crimes look at look at the efforts that were made in
00:45:15
the Micah wholesome bait case and that leads us back to back to Michael wholesome bake
00:45:22
on August 19 2021 another piece of this man was found a skull was found near an overflow parking
00:45:30
lot at Pyle's boys Camp off of Henry Mayo Drive in Valencia disgusting the Santa Clara River it
00:45:39
flows nearby the skull was determined to belong to Micah holsembake some sick [ __ ] and per news outlets
00:45:49
we have the family again stating quote we want to bring Micah home but bringing him home one piece at
00:45:56
a time is just unbearable and it could last for years that's his father's statement and his father goes on to say
00:46:04
because every time there's something else found it's a good thing but it's also a very very difficult thing one of
00:46:12
the things that makes this case a little more interesting to me this week is Matthew Queen the trial of Matthew Queen
00:46:19
is basically happening as we speak yes it is so this is very much a live and an active case still to this day while
00:46:28
we're covering it now in September of 2021 last year Matthew Vandy Castile who again he was already in prison
00:46:37
he entered a no contest plea on charges of being an accessory to murder false imprisonment and felony possession of a
00:46:45
firearm he also admitted to a robbery he had committed in Washington in return for a four-year sentence on
00:46:53
all of those charges and remember he agreed to testify at the upcoming trial of Matthew Queen the
00:47:01
trial that we are has either started by the time this hits your ear balls or it is in the process of starting so we will
00:47:09
be interested to hear what Matthew Vandy castile's testimony is against Matthew Queen now Caleb sealer
00:47:20
the guy that was threatened by Matthew Queen at gunpoint he's in his own trouble and this is
00:47:29
because he was engaged in all kinds of illegal activities with Matthew Queen in October of 2021 he pled no contest to
00:47:37
possession of a firearm by a felon and in June of 2021 this is stemming from an incident in June of 2021 when probation
00:47:48
officers found a short-barreled AR-15 style rifle two nine millimeter handgun frames two silencers ammunition and high
00:47:58
capacity magazine in Caleb's home and of course as a felon he's prohibited from having any of these items I would
00:48:06
like to commend the probation officers for checking in on this guy a lot of times these guys
00:48:12
they they go off to prison or they get probation and they might have to go check in with their po
00:48:19
but a lot of times the POS are not doing house checks and I don't know what exactly led the
00:48:26
the probation officers to Caleb in this incident but I like when I hear that POS
00:48:32
are going to going to the uh the individuals out on probation going to their homes and checking in on them
00:48:40
in in their own setting now Matthew's as the captain pointed out Matthew Queen's trial was originally
00:48:47
scheduled to start February 28 2022. um there has been a recent hearing that may have changed
00:48:56
that may change this date so we're kind of waiting for this thing to fully kick off here uh and and just a buyer beware
00:49:03
that when you're listening to this again his trial may have already started by the time that this hits your ear balls
00:49:10
now Matthew Queen unfortunately you know the captain and I don't mind a little prison justice but Matthew Queen to me
00:49:18
seems like the type of guy that will thrive in prison and may even have some connections already may already have
00:49:25
some friends before he even gets there well rumor has it he has very soft hands as for the
00:49:31
baker's field three moms the news that one of the kids was alleged to have killed another
00:49:38
you know with the Bailey being involved in Micah's death yeah thankfully it did not tear the group apart right
00:49:48
you know they they're a United group they're going through something together none of them signed up for this they're
00:49:54
still none of these moms none of these parents none of these families signed up for this they're all finding themselves
00:49:59
in a situation that no one would sign up for and I'm very glad to report that it
00:50:04
seems that none of this information has torn them apart from one another they remain strong they made a video together
00:50:12
thanking everyone for their support this case is finally coming to an end getting
00:50:18
some closure here the charity they form together it's called the Bakersfield 3 charity they worked with
00:50:26
the Kern County Board of Supervisors to provide seventeen thousand dollars towards new sonar equipment for the Kern
00:50:34
County Sheriff's Office and search and rescue unit right the three moms told ABC 23 that their mission is to bring
00:50:42
victims of violent crimes missing persons and their families together to build hope and strengthen Kern County
00:50:50
through Community engagement and Victim Advocacy now sadly Captain you know we're often asked to give our opinion
00:50:58
and give our conclusion and our final thoughts on these cases and really what I see here long story short to me it's a
00:51:08
very sad situation that I'm sure is unfortunately repeated in other great cities throughout this great nation
00:51:16
but here I see all indications that point to three individuals that came from good backgrounds and had their
00:51:24
whole lives ahead of them and they were leading good lives at one point but they
00:51:28
got mixed up in drugs and became seriously addicted to opiates and or meth meth addictions that led to their
00:51:38
associations with some Psychopathic hardcore criminals yeah and you feel bad for the parents because they raised
00:51:47
these kids essentially and then at some point there are good people they're on the right path then they get hooked on
00:51:55
pain pills which leads them to become drug addicts and that sends them down a whole life of criminal activity and
00:52:04
you just feel bad because they they didn't have a chance to get better and to do something productive with their
00:52:11
lives and live the lives that they were probably meant to live and just because we have Matthew Queen who is facing
00:52:17
trial we need to remind everybody that this thing ain't over right we still have Bailey who is missing
00:52:26
we also have James colstad no one has been charged in his murder so the police still need your help still
00:52:36
need information from the public and look I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but it's easy for me to suspect
00:52:43
that there's probably other individuals that are involved in this overall situation but you're a tool and again a
00:52:51
lot of those individuals as you've seen as we go through name after name after name they're all involved in lengthy
00:52:59
months and years of criminal activity there's a lot of bad people in this story and the police still need your
00:53:07
help this community needs your help in getting these bad people off of the streets so if anybody has any
00:53:15
information this case is not over James callstead's murder not solved nobody charged the
00:53:22
secret witness hotline is still available for you to submit information there is a reward in this case and I
00:53:31
urge anybody with information Now's the Time to come forward the threat has diminished
00:53:37
the threat is a lot less than it used to be please call 661 322-4040 [Music] down
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I want to thank everybody for listening thanks for joining us here in the garage
00:54:02
thanks for being our friends and thanks for smelling so good now like flowers Colonel do we have any
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