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captain I want to sit down with everybody have a beer answer some questions M have more than one beer on
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this show that's right so everybody gather around grab a chair and let's talk some true crime
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[Music] [Applause] garage all right well you asked for it so you're going to get it we've had a
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lot of people asking for a a Q&A session with the old captain and old Nikolai so
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here we are messed up I see everybody's everybody's kind of eased into their couches eased into their spots they got
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their drinks um reach out and grab that mailbag and let's let's hit them with letter number one here's a question we
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get all the time if you could pick one case that you could solve which case would that be wow I thought these would
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be softball questions that that one's a tough one that's an intriguing question because we have some softball questions
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you know if you were to pick something like um like the zodia cases mhm you know you're you could
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justify your answer by saying well you would be able to solve a lot of murders all at once um but if we're just talking
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about one specific case one victim I would it would probably go back to me uh and I hate I hate to pick something
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that's already been on top of our list before but the West Memphis 3 case just haunts me and it's something that pops
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in my mind every 30 or 40 days and it's um I hate to sound selfish here but I almost need that to be solved and
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resolved for me personally um plus I mean you talk about horrible situation with three very young victims I should
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have stated that these questions are being asked it's it's live so it's not like we had a bunch of time to ponder
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these answers as well well and I kind of want to top off my answer there and give
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a little reasoning by why I chose that case well it's your show do what you want it's um that's a case that they're
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not going to be actively in investigating um and and therefore you know once that Alfred plea came into
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into the deal um as far as the state's concerned that case is off the books it's technically solved as far as the
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law goes they're not going to investigate that case so that's why I have to pick that one because a lot of
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these other cold cases are still being actively investigated yeah that' definitely be on the top of my list and
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I think we talk about that case so much but there's all the you know the Brandon
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Lawson case Brian Schaefer case um the Adnan Sayad case those cases constantly pop like we talked uh a couple episodes
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ago about the red light cases there's those cases that pop into my brain all the time John Benet Ramsey that'd be a
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great one to to fully know the truth um so that yeah I know you said pick one I just
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picked five and the next question regards people starting up uh their own podcast you know we get this question in
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many different forms so kind of a summation of of all of those is you know what advice would you give to someone
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that wants to start up their own podcast and be successful doing it well I think
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number one thing is find a subject that you can talk for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours
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about and you don't really get tired of it something that really fascinates you I think that's the key I mean having a
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passion and normally if you're passionate about something people follow so I would say definitely do that first
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the second thing would be to have a hard you know toughen up your skin because there's a lot of haters out there
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there's people that they're not even going to listen to your show they're just going to find a way to hate on you
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also number three invest money into yourself so if you're going to start a podcast don't just pull out your iPhone
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and record on your iPhone go on and we get technical questions all the time what kind of equipment you use the best
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thing you can do is go to like amazon.com and search for a recording package something that comes with a
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condenser mic something that comes with a program you know pronus is a is a good
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company they got good preamps get a good mic get a good program dive into how to
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record it so you can have at least decent quality for people to listen to you're nasly drone yeah and regarding
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the the hate mail and that's very that's very good thing that you ke in on there
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uh thick skin because you will for every 10 people that like what you're doing that won't email you that won't hit you
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up with a tweet you'll get one person that will send you some hate mail and you yeah you only hear from the haters
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which is really discouraging uh and it was for us in the beginning but you just have to um you kind of have to put your
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blinders on and keep doing what you like my recommendation too was would be to make sure that you have somebody on your
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team that is very much like the captain somebody that's incredibly intelligent um somebody that knows what he's doing
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uh he's he's a social media ninja uh and he's a hell of a producer so in in recording engineer yeah I mean I get a
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lot of hate mail saying you need to get off the show I produced the show so no I'd be talking into a tin can if it
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wasn't he'd be talking to iPhone or or the wall all right so that's kind of advice and if if you if anybody has any
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technical questions they would like to ask me you can do so on social media and all that stuff I'm happy to help or
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point you in the right direction okay uh Sam ask what do you have against cows oh
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well that's a long list um I wonder if Sam is is is Sam being funny or is this because we did a a cow tipping uh post
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where because we were drinking the Spotted Cow beer um I wonder if he if he is referencing that but I personally
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love cows uh I would eat a T-bone steak right now well that's nice of you okay speaking of eating would you rather have
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dinner with Jeffrey dmer or to have a child with Casey Anthony that's not a fair question at all uh who's that from
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because that person's not Maddie you are an unfair person um here's the problem with that question MD a child is a
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lifelong responsibility I you'd have to be locked into Casey Anthony for the rest of your life uh dinner with Jeffrey
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dmer would certainly be easier um hopefully he's not doing the cooking right Captain right um but if if let's
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say I had to choose between dinner with Jeffrey and dinner with Casey I would still go with dinner with Jeffrey D
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they're both despicable people in my my humble opinion well yeah and I and but at the end of the day the the meal is
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going to smell W way better than that troll all right let's get to another question let's see uh did you guys ever
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do a radio show like on a tape recorder when you're little kids and do you still
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got them that comes from Edith that's a that's a great question Edith um yeah we
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actually we as strange as it sounds we actually are guilty of doing that in elementary school yeah we were must have
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been very little um and we did it with a with a friend of ours um and I think what if I remember correctly we had
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basically had a tape recorder our three idiot voices and and a little acoustic guitar no it was electric guitar was it
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electric guitar o we were fancy but we didn't plug it into anything okay and our show was called but Radio b b u tt
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radio yeah so it was very um very seven-year-old humor I think yeah and well and a lot of what we did too was we
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would like talk about the pre you know like the stuff in between a song mhm and then we'd actually record a song yeah on
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the tape so de leopard yeah play little yeah or Duran Duran um but yeah that's what we did in in elementary school that
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turned into um my best friend growing up um cp1 um we did a thing called uh our first TV show was called the Willies
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which I was not a part of you and your friend cp1 right and then we turned it into the pubert and Toad show so my
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first nickname of any show was was toad uh and we had weird outfits we wore and the Willies was really like kid humor
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and very like we had to keep it clean cuz the only people that were watching it or his poor parents you know it's it
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like they would have to come home and we' be like here's the tape you got to watch this tape and then they had to sit
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through the 30 minute tape we made and then uh the peber and Toad show we actually um would tape record all these
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and then when we'd have these parties in high school would' show everybody the tapes I was hoping to learn something
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today and what I just learned is that in the captain's 25-year radio career he has never used his real name well I
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started off in TV yeah pubert were you pubert or I was toad oh you were toad cp1 was pubert all right another one
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that we get asked often is by covering True Crime every week does it affect your views on the justice system
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um I I I actually don't think that it that it has affected my thoughts on the overall My overall opinion of the
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justice system it certainly has given me quite a bit more insight into that but my my opinion really hasn't changed um I
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think for the most part we do a pretty good job it's it's a tough thing because it's never something that you're going
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to bat 1,000 at um but I I think where we do fail um is that it seems to me like people um that people that don't
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have a lot of money or people that might be discriminated against uh they I don't
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feel and never have felt that they get a fair swing at the plate well I think your analogy is right I mean when you
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think about baseball but in baseball if you get 30% if you hit 30% you're an allar
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you're an All-Star and that's kind of where our justice system is we're not even batting 30% I think it's very very
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unfair and uh of people color very unfair of people without money it's I think the more we dive into it and the
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more cases we cover the more flaws I see in the system and how many cases um should have been solved and that haven't
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been and really like with anything though Captain it all comes down to good people you know and if you have any
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situation regardless of you're talking about education or criminal justice or anything like that if you if you have
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some bad people it it's that specific area of the system is going to be bad um so we all just need to be we need to be
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good and we need to get better at what we do another question we get all the time uh now this one is phrased
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differently will you ever tour and if so please come to the UK uh tour I understand that like the
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murderinos um my favorite murder girls uh they ladies I should say um great show if you haven't checked that out I
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know they do a tour uh I don't know if we ever will we like the garage well well the other thing too is we do two
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shows a week um you know a lot you know a lot of people enjoy the two shows some
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people want this one show Again by by opening it up to multiple episodes you're actually able to spend time on
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the details or on your thought processes and the people that say well well I don't need your opinion well I don't
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need your opinion either um to me me and Nick go back and forth on this I I love
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the facts of the cases but at the same time uh you know I think it's important for us to give our viewpoints on things
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that's what we bring to the genre that's what we bring to True Crime is our background our opinions that's what we
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can bring everybody has their own story their own thoughts and uh we should be willing to share those but as far as a
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tour goes uh I I don't know I think there's not enough time the you're exactly right
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the the problem with our schedule is because of doing two shows a week it's very cumbersome and we've actually
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doubled the workload on our end as well so um we would love to do a tour we'd love to meet everybody um right now it's
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it it doesn't work in the schedule the other question we get a lot is how long do we spend on it episode to record an
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episode you know we normally start um the average episode is probably about 6 hours to record now what we do
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differently than a lot of other shows like talking to uh Generation Y and uh sword and scale and and every show does
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their thing differently we actually now for this show we're actually just doing it live and I'll go back and edit but
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normally we edit live meaning we say a couple lines then we might edit then we say more lines and go back and edit so
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we kind of edit on the fly but the whole process once you put in the intro once you do um the beer fun and the ads and
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edit the whole show you're looking at about a 6 hour to 8 Hour process per episode and and that's just the
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recording of that one episode that has nothing to do with the research or putting together notes or or composing
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the music any you know we we of course have to do that before we get together in the garage and sit down to record
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yeah and the the cases are veryy I mean because you know there there's days that
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you can spend 12 hours just doing research so it's very cumbersome and I think then on top of that you to try to
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balance your life because we're dealing with such heavy topics and you need that
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time on the weekend to just be yourself and not be the captain or not be Nick from True Crime garage and not dive into
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these heavy topics so to then you know to go okay well it's Friday I got to pack my bags and go to Austin Texas or
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something it it's kind of hard to do we won't actually answer this one but uh what got you into True Crime we there's
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another Q&A show on the website if you want to check that out that kind of has a lot of broad answers that was in the
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first season season 1 like episode 15 or something like like that and we have we
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give a that was a question I think maybe our first question of that episode mhm and the history of True Crime in your
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opinion who's the biggest douche canoe uh that would vary depending on which day you ask me because you know so
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many so many of these animals are douche canoes U amongst other words we they also want us to stop saying animals
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because you know there are are a bunch of lovely animals oh yeah yeah sorry I I mean that in a bad way I guess but um
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mhm uh so just off the top of my head if I had to pick one right now click boom I'd say Peewee Gaskins um and for
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reasons that I won't get into but we we have been asked several times to cover his case he he was a serial killer um
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tiny little guy um but he did some things that I won't mention here um and actually because of because I despise
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him so much um and I've even responded this way to a few people that have asked us to cover Peewee Gaskin I will not
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waste my breath discussing uh Peewee Gaskin anymore okay I was going to say he just he just
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wasted a lot of breath right there NP I hate um uh mine would just be anybody that any crimes against children I mean
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I think you heard my disdain for uh Casey Anthony but you know that's just one individual there's a bunch of them
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out there that did um just says bad if not worse and so yeah all those would be in the category for me I I look I
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understand people want a one person answer I can't do it what's your favorite beer uh today it's black as
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your soul um uh usually it's the beer that's in front of me but um you know I I actually uh had some
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beer email the other day and one of them had one of the gentlemen had commented saying you know um uh you know captain
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could you get Nick to drink some real beer you know not not these U you know flavor wild beers or anything like that
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I like variety um I'm willing to try every beer out there um uh I guess if this guy meant real beer like regular
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American Ale American logger um I I don't I like to sit down on a hot day and pull a can from a cooler there's
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something magical that happens inside that cooler when you ice down some beers all day long and I don't care if it's a
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Budweiser a bush beer a Miller Light Miller High Life boo yeah I like I like everything I like all the
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beers um PBR love a good PBR my my favorite beer is Guinness I normally drink a lot of Guinness if you
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would have asked him a year ago he would have said red stripe yeah I drank red stripe for a really long time um a
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Dortmund gold would be my if I wanted a a somewhat fancy not too fancy beer that
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probably would be my favorite one which case immediately turns you off and why you want me to answer this one yeah go
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ahead I have to think for a minute I will just start with and I don't I don't want to get hate mail um two cases
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particularly and one is well I'll start with Adon sayed's case I'm super fascinated by that case I've Doven to
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that case more than most of the cases that we've covered on the show we've try to find multiple ways to cover it the
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last which I thought was a clever way was that we wanted to go through a point system here's the major points of the
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case you know that either weigh in favor of Adnan or weigh against him the problem with covering a case like this
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and the other case would be the Stephen Avery case the making of a murderer the problem with those two cases are how
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close people are and when you have a case like that that you get invested in to so much no matter
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what I say or what I believe will change somebody else's Viewpoint of what they believe so all it does is to create this
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room for animosity and those two cases immediately turn me off as far as wanting to cover those and we we get
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talked about it all the I um adon's case has not been brought up so much I think
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in the beginning it was a little bit but uh the stepen Avery case has constant constantly been brought up to cover that
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case cover that case probably won't cover that Cas I uh I'm I'm GNA kind of follow you there a little bit uh the
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Stephen Avery case is a big turnoff for me as far as discussing it um I did watch the show I thought the show was
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highly entertaining um I also read a book about the case well before the documentary
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came out um and I can't think of the name of that book but if anybody can find that you probably find it if you
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just Google Steven Avery I highly recommend that book um that one turns me off because I okay so I go to this beer
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club I'm in a beer Club bunch of guys get together you know every so often and drink beers well you know me being the
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True Crime dork out of the out of the batch when that show was going on everybody wanted to talk to me at Beer
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Club about Stephen Avery and and get my opinion on what was going on the problem
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was I didn't share the same opinion uh regarding the outcome or or who is guilty or not guilty uh as they did and
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it always turned in it we go to Beer Club for fun and it would turn into some kind of debate so I think that
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atmosphere is what turned me off from uh that that particular case another one that I'll kind of lump a whole bunch of
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them together and I do like this show you know like the the evening time uh major Network True Crime shows and and I
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know they cover more than that but like dat line 2020 48 Hours things like that those are good shows the problem
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for me is 50% of the time it's like the same case in a different location with different names it's always the cheating
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husband killed the wife and you know it's just spending an hour putting together information to convince you of
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that or to show why he is guilty it's um it it's just not it's just not um the those are all horrible events but it
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doesn't intrigue me enough to want to sit there and and watch that same crime play out over and over again are you
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going to try to solve a crime we have um uh you know we've we've given we've supplied some tips uh We've we haven't
00:26:45
solved any crimes we have not solved any crimes sorry I should be clear about that uh but what I what I mean is we we
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have tried to help or assist um by providing information that we've stumbled upon or information that's been
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provided to us we've tried to allocate that to the right and appropriate people in departments um and let them run with
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it they're the investigators they're involved in in the real action um so we'll continue to do that all right are
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the host of True Crime gay Ridge 420 friendly well I was born on 420 so am I 420 friendly uh do whatever
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you want to do it's not not up to for me to tell you do I partake in it no that's
00:27:33
just me I'm going to Jamaica in August and I certainly will be uh very friendly during that entire trip all right have
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we considered doing a video podcast no I'm not interested in that personally I have a face for
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audio nice audio face no I look I understand that some people are are going that way with different shows I
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know Joe Rogan does his show but they also post a live feed we're not a full conversation show I mean we do have
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conversation but a lot of the times is you know we're putting out facts and that has to be done in in appropriate in
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an appropriate way for you know the victims for everybody involved and for the listener to to understand what
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actually happen so it's it would be pretty difficult to do I mean we could do a Q&A show like this live right but
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again that's a you know we're already working as much as we can on this show so to add one more element it's kind of
00:28:36
like the Vlogs people said when are these Vlogs going to come out it's just a run out of time and so you you have to
00:28:44
pick your battles do I reply to everybody on social media or do I make the show better for the week do I do a
00:28:51
vlog this week or do I get what I need to get done for the show this week well and unfortunately I don't know that our
00:28:58
format or the way we do things would would translate to a video type podcast would
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you ever want to do a one unsolved case uh kind of like uh up and vanish which is a great show I know they had a new
00:29:13
episode come out today I think that everybody's really excited about so would we want to focus on one case and
00:29:20
spend months and months on possibly we've we've been kicking the tires on that idea for quite some time um we have
00:29:27
a handful of cases in mind uh for that so we've certainly considered doing some type of series but we also want to stay
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true to what we're currently doing uh and and hoping to give a new case you know every week or a new case every two
00:29:41
weeks well yeah and we're actually in talks right now with a producer to start working on a audio documentary kind of
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like um swn ours would be solely True Crime though all right fascinating stuff with Nick and the captain holding on on
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to my holding on to my seats holding on to my seat parts my seat parts of unknown we'll get back to this right
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Freedom all right we're back cheers all right a question we get all the time is research do we just randomly Google
00:32:31
search information or is there certain places that you start your research process it it's actually different for
00:32:39
every case and I hate hate to give an answer like that it it varies depending on what is out there you know if I can
00:32:46
if we're discussing a subject you know an author that I like has written a book about um I might I might read that book
00:32:55
um or but yeah yeah some Google searches are involved um once in a while I'll get
00:33:00
on uh websleuths I don't get on there every week regarding our cases but sometimes I'll get on there because a
00:33:06
lot of the websleuth community they have just a message board where you can just
00:33:10
kind of throw out your theory or question this or that about any particular case um so I like to it's not
00:33:18
so much to find out what people think are interesting on cases but it's it's more like finding out what's wrong with
00:33:25
the case what's missing from the investigation you know a lot of times you really only need one or two pieces
00:33:32
to put the whole puzzle together and sometimes you need somebody else's uh input to to locate that piece or two
00:33:38
another question that's been asked a bunch is what case got us into True Crime that's pretty much again on the
00:33:45
website it's free and it's in the store page but it's technically free there's another Q&A show that I think we did on
00:33:52
season 1 but what case got us you know you into true crime or me into True Crime my my first major one was um West
00:34:01
Memphis 3 and then a a recent case that really got me kind of hooked back into the subject would be um Mara Murray yeah
00:34:09
I I don't remember if I went into depth with this in in the Q&A that we did back
00:34:14
in season 1 oh by the way anybody that wants old episodes that are not available on iTunes the first two
00:34:20
seasons are available for purchase on iTunes or on our website store Page and as the captain just said there's a
00:34:26
couple of ones on there as well we still did this day get asked several times a week how do I locate your first 40
00:34:34
episodes or 39 episodes whatever it is that's where you find them um for me when I was young I got two books and one
00:34:40
was called the greatest Unsolved Mysteries and the other one was called um something about solved Mysteries or
00:34:47
something th those names are not right uh but that's what I remember this is was from when I was like 11 or 12 and
00:34:54
the first one that I read that was solved was about about the um Chow Chilla kidnappings um and that's an
00:35:00
interesting case where I believe it was three guys they hijack a school bus and they took all of the school children on
00:35:08
that that bus and held them for ransom um and it's a solved case and fortunately nobody was nobody was harmed
00:35:15
I think a lot of people have a lot of PTSD still to this day for regarding that uh and then the first unsolved case
00:35:22
that I remember reading in the unsolved book was the Lizzie bordon case um back from the late 1800s uh she went
00:35:30
on trial for uh killing her father and her stepmother with an axxe uh this was in Fall River Massachusetts I believe
00:35:39
and she was acquitted of of that uh at trial and to this day there's many many people that still believe that she's
00:35:46
guilty there's that old um that old rhyme that goes Lizzy bordon Took an Axe and gave her mother 40 wax and when she
00:35:54
had seen what she had done she gave her father 41 um so oh that's cute those were the first two um solved case and
00:36:02
unsolved case that I remember reading about uh can you guys talk about the moment where one of you said let's do a
00:36:09
podcast and the other's reaction I think we talked about this before but it's kind of funny we're both laid off we
00:36:16
were laid off at the time when we when we started this podcast um and we had actually talked uh about starting up a
00:36:24
podcast uh jokingly over the phone several times um and I think once we were both laid off we had time to to
00:36:32
take on a project uh I'm not going to lie to you I don't think we were super serious about it in the beginning um it
00:36:39
wasn't until we actually sat down and started recording we didn't know what we were doing um but uh we we were having
00:36:46
fun doing it um and then people started listening yeah but it kind of went like this um okay yeah let's do a podcast
00:36:54
what you want to talk about uh I'm I'm thinking True Crime and I think we should I still remember I'm saying uh
00:37:02
this is Nick saying this by the way he said I think we should do a true crime podcast and I think we should uh uh do a
00:37:09
beer of the week these all sounded like bad ideas to him back then it still sound like bad
00:37:17
ideas no but it was kind of like I was like well I guess when we when if you would break down our conversations that
00:37:25
we would have what 70% would be true crime or conspiracy MH so yeah it just kind of I
00:37:35
mean we don't normally talk about uh life goals and and stuff like that so we'd always kind of gravitate towards
00:37:44
West Memphis 3 or JFK JFK or we'd always end up talking about that stuff after a
00:37:49
drink or two and just seemed right yeah or music we talked about music a lot that would probably be the other subject
00:37:56
uh we we like to do this game where we get drunk where we say like a you know like Best Love
00:38:03
Song That's not about a girl mhm you know or best uh rock song not about rocking best rock song about rocking
00:38:15
which is obviously Those About to Rock We Salute You all right do we ever disagree on cases to cover and not end
00:38:23
up covering that case we might have different answers for this question my answer would be no um we definitely
00:38:31
disagree on what cases to cover from time to time but I think we respect each other enough that uh if one of us feels
00:38:38
the thing is when we cover these cases it's very important that that one or both of us be passionate about the case
00:38:44
because it will show in our research and show in our presentation of the case um
00:38:50
So my answer is that yes we disagree on them but I believe we respect each other
00:38:56
enough that it it just means that we won't be covering it that week it goes on a list and we will get to you know
00:39:02
the captain's case or my case eventually the majority of the time I think we're we both get excited about
00:39:09
the same case you know because we'll kind of we'll come up with nine or 10 and kind of talk briefly about each one
00:39:15
and we can tell right away which ones that that we're both into what is one case you'll never cover and
00:39:21
why well so I should probably give a different answer than Peewee Gaskins since I I just said that I'll just go
00:39:29
ahead with my answer thinking that I'm assuming that we'll never cover Adon scad's case so um one that we've
00:39:39
gone back and forth about throughout this entire process is uh Jean Benet Ramsey um we've had many discussions
00:39:47
about we should cover it or we shouldn't cover it um we're still kind of I'll speak for the both of us uh we're still
00:39:54
kind of on the fence of whether to do it or not some the problem is some of these
00:39:59
cases have been covered so many times uh and if you look hard enough some of them
00:40:03
have been covered very well when we cover a case we generally want to try to add something to the conversation uh
00:40:10
bring something into the fold you know um and if we don't think that we can do that we we're we're not likely to cover
00:40:18
the case that doesn't mean we will never cover Jean Benet it's just one that pops
00:40:23
to the top of my mind because the captain and I have had this discussion many times is there any plans for Nick
00:40:28
and Captain bobbleheads or beer koozies uh no plans for bobbleheads and definitely plans for the beer koozies
00:40:36
the problem with merchandise is again you know I know you know there's a lot of other shows that have you know
00:40:43
different merchandise and stuff like that this is a twers operation and that's pretty much it uh we run our own
00:40:50
website we record all the shows we upload them ourselves if you bought a t-shirt one of us put that t-shirt in
00:40:58
that bag so again it's one of those things where it just comes down to time and when we can find more time we we put
00:41:05
out that stuff and with the t-shirts too you know we even we even go as far to be
00:41:10
included on the process of Designing what goes on the shirt what type of shirt it goes on the color involved all
00:41:17
of that stuff we try to keep our our hands on everything that is true crime garage uh another question we get often
00:41:23
is the is our logo the garage like are we sitting in that garage right that's a question we get often that's a
00:41:32
pretty beat up garage uh in that picture um it would not be comfortable to sit in
00:41:39
that garage and record for 6 hours well the first garage we uh set in in the summer it was just I mean it was awful
00:41:48
uh the first garage that we were in for I think the first eight episodes or so it was just to the point where the
00:41:54
amount of sweat coming off of us you know we might record for 20 minutes and then we'd have to open up the garage
00:42:02
door and take another 20-minute break because we're just sweating it was it's pretty gross yeah we if you listen to
00:42:08
the first six seven eight episodes we were actually in a a detached garage a very large one uh we recorded all those
00:42:17
episodes in the summertime so it get very hot um and on top of that you would hear we would have to stop frequently
00:42:24
because you would hear dogs barking outside or somebody honking their horn um so so yes uh we are not in the garage
00:42:32
that you see on the picture there all right another question we get a bunch is by diving into True Crime cases every
00:42:40
week and so often has it affected you mentally like with uh in the sense of do you find it depresses you or or what you
00:42:51
think of people in general okay so before we started doing the the podcast I believe that I I have a gut reaction
00:43:01
and gut feeling to most of the people that I meet um I don't think I don't think everybody's shady I think most
00:43:09
people are good people um I do believe that we encounter a certain number of bad people almost on a daily basis one
00:43:17
thing that I've done in my own personal life throughout the my entire lifetime is if somebody gives me a bad feeling if
00:43:24
for whatever reason even if I can't put my finger on it it maybe they've done nothing at all but if I get a bad
00:43:30
feeling about somebody I won't go anywhere with them I won't be around them I will try not to speak to them so
00:43:36
I've always done that now the thing that has affected me regarding having the show and doing the podcast is and this
00:43:44
is pretty depressing because I do believe we generally live in a good world but now I feel like I get very
00:43:52
weary when I see a a a child walking alone somewhere yeah uh I almost feel and and stranger abductions we've
00:44:00
pointed this out before are actually a very rare thing that happens um usually a child is abducted by somebody they
00:44:07
know and those are still rare occurrences as well but I I don't know why it didn't happen right away when we
00:44:14
started this podcast but at some point like now that it's summertime it's beautiful out today I will probably see
00:44:20
a child walking alone somewhere uh today and it will it will bother me or it will
00:44:24
cause me to look around and take take observation of the surroundings um so yes that's I know that's a strange thing
00:44:32
to say but that that's one way that it has affected me yeah I kind of have to put a time limit on things it's like
00:44:38
when uh we did the ad for uh mommy dead and dear or at the HBO documentary I have to look at my work
00:44:48
schedule and and and think to myself how much have I actually Dove to True Crime
00:44:54
this week and if it's too much sometimes I have to put a documentary that I maybe
00:45:00
really want to see on hold just because I think the constant of it can get a little dark the other weird thing on
00:45:08
your level is when you said uh well when I see a child a weird thing that happens
00:45:13
with me is you know you know meet I'll meet a mom of course everybody's going to laugh about this you know my friend
00:45:22
will be a mother right and uh it's like the kid comes up [ __ ] hey how old's your
00:45:27
kid six and I I immediately will think John Ben Ramsey or Walsh Adam Walsh and then somebody will go oh my other kid's
00:45:36
eight and I immediately think Stevie Branch mhm and and that's odd or uh you know we're going to go get Kentucky
00:45:46
Fried Chicken I immediately think uh John Wayne Casey so uh which before I used to think about Joo Pastorius
00:45:55
because he would put a little chicken bone in his pocket and he would rub his hands with the chicken bone before he
00:46:00
played bass so that's definitely a change and that's definitely you know again sometimes you have to keep those
00:46:07
th thoughts to yourself you can't just uh blurt those out um the thing that gets me sometimes is I ride my bike
00:46:16
often and um I was riding by the school and uh behind the school is kind of a wooded area and I'll will see
00:46:29
things like I was riding one day and these three boys on bicycles riding back into the woods and probably about 8
00:46:37
years old M and stuff like that there's this part of me that goes do I go back into the woods and make
00:46:43
sure nothing happens to them right but you know you can't control every situation so there there is there there
00:46:51
are things that can get you down about it but you know if it wasn't for you know a lot of people ask what podcast do
00:46:58
we listen to I respect and love pretty much every True Crime podcast I've Listen to I tend to not listen to them
00:47:06
often so like when Mike from sword and scale said hey uh you guys seem like cool guys and he wanted to do this
00:47:12
little bit with us he's like never listen to your show mhm not because he doesn't want to it's just you don't have
00:47:19
a lot of time because you're producing a show and then on top of that do you want
00:47:22
to know what everybody else in the True Crime world is doing mhm that's funny that you said sword and
00:47:28
scale though because we got an email the other day from a listener that said hey
00:47:31
I got a case that's hi Captain I got a case that's perfect for your show sword and scale so somebody got that wrong
00:47:39
completely it's not my show it's Mike's show but um it's good for me to have podcasts that aren't of the True Crime
00:47:47
genre to kind of you know shows like christalia show congratulations that show cracks me up I really like Joe
00:47:55
Rogan show cuz it can be funny but it can also get into some deep stuff and then every week I listen to um uh This
00:48:04
American Life because I have a a producer friend that listens to it and we kind of just always kind of talk
00:48:09
about the episode mhm what was the hardest case to cover emotionally for me it was the tika Lewis case um there's
00:48:18
been a few of these that have really got to me um I don't know if if you know the
00:48:24
captain knows this but I don't I don't know if anybody else could tell this but when we covered Casey Anthony and I was
00:48:29
reading George Anthony's suicide note I we I had to tell the captain to stop a couple times because it was at some
00:48:36
point when you're reading that his words became my words almost and it and like it started affecting me pretty badly um
00:48:44
but I would say probably the T he was crying in the garage uh I would probably say the tika Lewis case uh that was the
00:48:51
small girl that went missing in um I don't have her information right in front of me but I believe it was
00:48:56
Washington State uh she was believed to be have been abducted from a bowling alley now the poor little girl was
00:49:03
probably only about 3 years old um so maybe the youngest one of the youngest victims we've discussed at length on the
00:49:11
show um doing the research for that case was very tough for me uh very depressing
00:49:17
very emotional uh week that week so the ti Lewis case if I had to pick just one well it's so weird too when you're
00:49:24
crying in the garage not to make a joke about it but uh cuz it wasn't that funny
00:49:29
at all cuz I was I was very just focused on coming in you know you know Nick is leading the conversation that's
00:49:37
obviously no surprise here so I have to be on my toes and know when to interrupt
00:49:43
when to interject I try not to interrupt as much I've been listening to the comments but I'm recording the whole
00:49:50
thing and so I got you know I'm I was so focused that emotionally I wasn't in that same realm and I I obviously didn't
00:49:58
have to read the words but it was just like very awkward thing where you got somebody you know crying and you're
00:50:05
going wait okay okay just uh it wasn't like a it wasn't like a a big- Time cry though choke it wasn't like waterfall
00:50:14
with snot Bubbles and all that it was it was was a big strong man choking up yeah
00:50:19
what was what's that lady the the lady that does the snot bubbles so well oh she was in doubt and she was in that
00:50:25
movie with fences yeah uh I can't think of her name but she man she snot bubbles
00:50:31
every crying scene that she does I've been standing here right with you I've been standing right that's what I
00:50:37
started doing I tell you what that is some damn good acting if you can snot bubble on Q oh she's amazing exactly how
00:50:44
big is the captain's jib okay well let's what does that even mean I don't even know I'm 63 and my shoes are size 14 if
00:50:53
that gives you I'm just a big Bur dude okay jib what does jib mean it's it's actually old sailor term which is funny
00:51:01
because it's we didn't plan it that way it's just there's a bunch of old sayings
00:51:06
that I say um you know I like your jib you know uh you know thaty you know I like the cut of his jib all it means for
00:51:14
the people that don't know what it means the people that don't want to spend any
00:51:17
I love people that you know write in what does uh jib mean I like can't you just Google it well you got to write to
00:51:26
me just Google it basically it means we like your character we like if we say we
00:51:33
like the cut of your jib we like your character we like What You're Made Of and that's all it is how big is my jib
00:51:40
that's for your imagination how do you guys feel basically living in the serial killer capital of the country Ohio well
00:51:49
oh IO uh I feel great living in Ohio I disagree with that statement I disagree with that statement and and I
00:51:58
don't know numbers I don't have you know a list of serial killers by state in front of me I do know that Ohio has its
00:52:06
and has had its good share of them unfortunately um I would argue that California and maybe um uh California
00:52:16
certainly has had a ton of them I would argue that they've had the most uh New York has had a bunch the other thing too
00:52:22
Washington State's a weird one because they've had a lot famous serial killers so we tend to one thing that's crazy for
00:52:30
for people that aren't into True Crime that much they think that serial killers are a very rare thing that there's only
00:52:37
like one at every 10 years in the United States no there's a whole batch of them
00:52:42
that nobody's ever heard of um so that's a hard thing to say how do we feel about
00:52:46
living in the he he or she said the serial killer capital of the world I love Ohio John John so he's a I love uh
00:52:55
Columbus I've I've grown up with this city um well he hasn't grown up much but yeah and the city has grown up with me I
00:53:02
feel that it's the right size of City for me um it's also a very understanding and intelligent Community as well so I
00:53:09
love living in Columbus I will always live here or near here uh I love Ohio um and I again California lots of serial
00:53:19
killers all right so John Steve wants to know what is the captain the captain of
00:53:24
the garage duh um your mom actually uh he he technically holds no rank outside of these four walls um so I actually get
00:53:35
annoyed by people that I'm friends with that call me the captain he he is it's annoying he I have a real name the
00:53:42
captain of himself it's G that's my real name g Blanchet G III okay uh would we ever consider doing
00:53:51
live episodes in front of an audience sure uh not doing anything this evening uh no uh I will be at Jimmy's Chicken
00:54:00
cheack um participating in the hot body contest and afterwards it will follow with a um a live True Crime garage show
00:54:08
guy doesn't work out enough for a hot body contest but it's not a tough contest it's not a tough man contest uh
00:54:15
would we do a live show we've we like we talked about touring would we do a tour
00:54:19
probably not we would like to do some meetups uh and probably if we did the Meetup what's the point of meeting up
00:54:25
with us I think want to shake hands and say hi and meet everybody and tell tell you thank you so much for for affecting
00:54:32
our lives uh the way you have uh I think if we did that we'd also just kind of do
00:54:37
a live Q&A just for fun um would we record that maybe through video or something and then you know possibly
00:54:45
possibly toss it up on YouTube or something that's something I think we should do you know and we've talked
00:54:50
about it quite a bit I think we should do something like that we do like a beer tasting mixed with a Q a and maybe a
00:54:56
short you know version of a of a of a regular episode okay so as the show has been getting bigger how has that
00:55:04
affected you really not at all um other than I have to well it hasn't really affected me in any way that that's
00:55:11
outstanding other than you know now where I wasn't really known as a true crime guy I was kind of a closeted True
00:55:19
Crime dork amongst some amongst some of my friends there were some people that I
00:55:24
would openly speak about this uh you know the reading and TV watching that I do um but now the majority of my family
00:55:33
you know all of my family is aware as well and so other than people asking me questions uh regarding True Crime uh you
00:55:42
know constantly uh it's not truly affected me in any way at all how about you Captain I'm just a lot busier you
00:55:50
know with the with the show doing the social media and uh I was I was a lot more private you know I got a question
00:55:58
the other day somebody asked me why do you uh have your Instagram as private if you accept everybody but there are some
00:56:05
people in my past that I just don't really care for them to see what what's going on with me so uh a lot of this
00:56:12
stuff is personal and it's very odd uh I mean I've played in bands before so you'd think that would be
00:56:19
something um that I'd somewhat be used to but um but I was a musician I wasn't a just a band guy I was normally a hired
00:56:29
musician so I wasn't always in promo pictures and stuff like that so to kind of be um just feel
00:56:38
how um is in a weird way a bit of an emotional roller coaster because you know when you
00:56:59
and I get together and we put out what we feel is a really good episode I'm I'm on Cloud9 for a while you know I'm quite
00:57:05
high on it for a while and um and then you know the next morning or that evening I'll receive some negative email
00:57:12
or see something negative on our website and it just kind of kicks you right in the jib and you're like oh you know you
00:57:18
you know so so it's it is it's Peaks and valleys Peaks and valleys all right Captain how do you deal with all the
00:57:24
negative people that are trying to bring you down the way you approach the podcast he sends clowns to their house I
00:57:32
I'll kick you in the goddamn grundle on a serious note I mean when we first started it was horribly depressing uh I
00:57:40
think we're probably episode 8 or 11 which one was Adam Walsh uh probably 11 if yeah so I think it was around there
00:57:50
where I just told Nick I don't I don't want to talk on the show anymore just because here's the
00:57:57
facts just the facts man just the facts here's for all the just the facts people
00:58:03
I was diagnosed with different things but what I believe is I suffer from severe depression so when you read a
00:58:11
bunch of crap about how stupid you are or whatever when you're the one that's essentially putting the whole show
00:58:18
together that stuff can bother you and then one day it just hit me where it's like none of this is real
00:58:25
this is we're tossing this out into this universe that I'm not really a part of so I kind of put it in those terms so
00:58:34
whether it's negative feedback or positive feedback I try not to let either one affect me so it's like you
00:58:41
know when there's these goofy comments on Instagram that are positive um even though they might treat
00:58:47
you like a piece of meat those the good comments and the negative comments I try
00:58:53
not to let affect me now that being said there are a different type of comment when somebody
00:59:00
says to me you help me get through work you help me through my commute to me that is normally more sincere that's the
00:59:09
stuff that's the reason why I'll put the time and the effort into it you know to
00:59:14
that that's the reason why I listen to podcast you know was to get from work and all that stuff so those those those
00:59:23
comments affect me uh in a positive way where now the haters the haters going to hate anter
00:59:29
going to ain't but even the you know some of the silly comments that are brought try not to you know have one way
00:59:38
or the other affect me and and I don't want to I don't want to give the vibe out that it's all negative feedback I I
00:59:44
actually want to thank everybody um I didn't get a chance to do this because I received so many emails from people that
00:59:51
were sending links or copies of the Boston Globe magazine they did a very they did really good coverage on the
00:59:58
body barrels case that that we covered um and that's it's a recent article so I've had a ton of people sending that to
01:00:05
me and I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank everybody that sent uh me that incredible article by the
01:00:11
Boston Globe how many beers do you normally drink during an episode um I would say an accurate statement
01:00:21
would be two um I think it used to be more used to be more but then towards the end I would notice that I was
01:00:29
talking in circles um which I which I do naturally anyway but um yeah so two would be an accurate statement sometimes
01:00:36
I just taste the beers again I don't want to make it like a dark depressing episode this is supposed to be a fun
01:00:43
episode for us uh we kind of needed a break but we get asked all these questions we thought H we just answer
01:00:50
him on the show uh sometimes I just sip take a couple tastes some episodes I'll drink some beers but
01:00:57
again I I deal with uh depression so I have to watch how much I drink on a weekly you know people will send me a
01:01:06
Snapchat hey what are you drinking tonight well maybe not anything um but that's just something for my own
01:01:13
personal mental health and and physical health you know what the other thing that's fun about this show too Captain
01:01:19
is that we you know we kind of have different things that we do for the show we have different departments and you
01:01:26
know so the captain if you send something regarding social media he's going to he's going to be the one to
01:01:33
respond um and if you send something regarding email or typically with the website itself with the blog uh that's
01:01:40
going on there typically it's me that you will get the response from so rarely do we have a situation where we are able
01:01:48
to both give an answer uh regarding one question so that's really I think for me
01:01:54
the big reason why why we wanted to do this today yeah and if you if you're not following Nick on untapped you should do
01:02:00
so why am I why is Nick on untapped and I'm not Nick doesn't do do any social media well Nick likes to frequent bars
01:02:10
and he drinks a lot more beers than I do mhm so that's why he and you need to follow him cuz it's pretty interesting
01:02:17
have you ever had any nightmares about the cases you covered yes yes I have but I can't specifically hone into
01:02:25
a specific case um I told you about the time where um this is kind of a funny story for me um one time I fell asleep
01:02:34
listening to a podcast uh not our show it was a true crime podcast I believe it might have been true murder uh big shout
01:02:42
out to Dan Dan zupansky my buddy Dan zupansky The Godfather of True Crime and I think I was listening to his show and
01:02:49
he was talking about um a a guy that had abducted some teenage girls and this was
01:02:56
technically a couple of these cases were technically solved um so he was able to
01:03:01
give an account of what actually took place um so I woke up in the morning and uh I I grabbed my the first piece of
01:03:10
paper I could find in a pen and I started jotting things down because I believed that I had some kind of dream
01:03:17
that some some kind of psychic dream where I knew what happened to these poor these poor teenagers and then I quickly
01:03:24
noticed that my my uh my bed phones were connected to my phone and they were lying on the bed next to me and I
01:03:32
checked the episode and I listened to it again that day and realized that everything that I dreamt was because I
01:03:38
was hearing it through the bed phones as I was sleeping yeah a lot of people uh fall asleep to our show or other True
01:03:46
Crime shows I find that a little odd you know just a little odd well it's talk it's kind it's pretty much talk radio
01:03:53
which can be a kind of a soothing thing to listen to yeah one of my producer friends has begged me to do a sleep
01:04:00
podcast where I just uh you know talk like this and put people to sleep uh I probably won't do that because I don't
01:04:08
have a lot of time um as your fan base has been growing internationally will we start discussing cases outside the US
01:04:16
this comes from Pete we we've done a few um we've done a Canadian case um one in
01:04:24
England and one in Sweden um if there's more I apologize if I can't recall them there there are some fascinating cases
01:04:33
in other countries that we would like to cover um I got one that's from Japan right now that I've been looking at a
01:04:39
lot to to try to put on the show there's some issues with that um it's not something that we try to stay away from
01:04:48
um but I will throw this out there if you listen to other True Crime podcasts that are based in other countries 90% of
01:04:56
the time they're reporting on cases that took place in the United States um and and I believe unfortunately that our
01:05:03
country has kind of been known become known for tragedy and and serial killers and stuff like that as far as stories go
01:05:11
in the news some countries do not like to provide much information on their stories they don't want this world
01:05:21
perception that everybody in that country is bad so they really vanilla everything and that would make it tough
01:05:28
on our end for research and presenting purposes when is the captain going to reveal his real name his address and
01:05:35
phone number um I'm not so you look if you direct message me on a social media um I I normally tell you I don't give I
01:05:45
normally want you to guess a couple to see how ridiculous it is I think at one point Nick called me mark on a
01:05:52
show and a lot of people went oh his name his real name is Mark my real name is not Mark his name is
01:05:59
Marcus the another question we get uh got a lot from our Facebook group you know we got a lot of emails so we kind
01:06:08
of gathered those together but we're also taking these questions from our Facebook group uh so if you're not
01:06:13
following us on our Facebook you should do so and also a fan page that was uh started by a buddy or he's been become
01:06:21
he's becoming more of a buddy uh Cody and he sent us a bunch of questions from the listeners so uh did Nick fix his
01:06:29
squeaky chair I have not fixed the squeaky chair right and it's driving me nuts 3 weeks 3 weeks just fix the chair
01:06:37
you guys cover a lot of missing person cases is there one that resonates with you more than
01:06:43
others well of course I think the answer will be Brian schaer because he was roughly our age he was in our community
01:06:53
um also the Joey leuk case again roughly the same age we knew people that knew them uh we hung out at places that they
01:07:01
hung out so especially with me playing uh across the in the the courtyard from Ugly Tuna for years and going in and out
01:07:12
of the same parking garage that Brian Schaefer went in and out of that case will always resonate with me mhm a bunch
01:07:20
how do you guys decide which stories and cases to cover on the podcast I think we've covered this quite a bit
01:07:27
throughout different episodes um 90 n% of the cases we cover are listener suggestions um we get a ton of
01:07:38
them and I and I thank everybody for them um and I want everybody to know that uh you know I reply to about 90% of
01:07:45
those suggestions um they all go on a list somewhere um by now we have a stack of lists um and what what I try to do as
01:07:54
well is when we receive multiple suggestions regarding the same case they get a little check mark um and sometimes
01:08:03
the number of check marks that a case has will have a direct impact on how soon we cover the case uh Jesse and and
01:08:10
other people have asked uh what's the what do you like most about doing this podcast and what do you like the least
01:08:17
about it I like the opportunity to discuss the cases um you know I true crime's always been a passion of mine
01:08:26
it's something I've always read and followed um the but it's kind of a double-edged sword for me because as
01:08:32
much as I like it I used to be able to step away from it from time to time you know um when there are other things
01:08:39
going on in my life or other interest uh take the front seat um you know True Crime could take a back seat so my
01:08:47
favorite part is is actually researching and presenting the cases and working with the captain but my what what has
01:08:55
become my least favorite is that on some level I liked being able to walk away from it and take a break from it where I
01:09:04
don't feel because of our grueling schedule that's not an opportunity that I have anymore this is an interesting
01:09:09
question from our Facebook group from Marie I know you guys used to live together what were the worst habits uh
01:09:16
you both figured out about each other do you want me to go first this is a really we live together really long
01:09:24
time ago this probably 15 years ago wow that's crazy it was it was that long ago isn't it
01:09:32
yeah uh but we only lived we shared an apartment for what about eight or nine months it was I feel like it was under a
01:09:39
year yeah it wasn't that long um so I had a roommate that moved out and the he he had a girlfriend that moved she ran
01:09:48
for her life she went all the way to Nebraska to get away from um and the C the captain was uh
01:09:55
looking for an apartment and I said hey come help me with my bills I don't even think I was looking for an apartment
01:10:01
come help me with my bills because I can't afford this apartment anymore by myself um he gave me a great deal by the
01:10:06
way the best part about living together was when we would sit around and drink and play video games which we don't
01:10:12
really play video games anymore but I remember we would have such I always had such a good time sitting around playing
01:10:17
video games with you cuz you just crack me up well we watched a lot of True Crime docs uh during that time too the
01:10:24
The Habit that stands out for me the most about the captain that drove me crazy okay here we go cuz he's probably
01:10:31
got plenty of things to tell you about me that I'm hoping he leaves some of those out um okay so if it's winter time
01:10:39
for some reason the captain back then I don't know if it holds true today but back then if it was winter and it was
01:10:45
10° outside the captain would wear shorts and a cut off t-shirt and crank the the heat up mhm and if it were
01:10:54
summertime he would wear sweatpants and a hoodie and crank the air conditioner up I could never get a full gauge on why
01:11:01
why that was the uh why that was the the choice of clothing well we worked different schedules too so that was a
01:11:08
little different yeah I you know that time period of living in that apartment reminded me more of uh you
01:11:17
know just kind of living alone cuz it wasn't like you're there a lot right I would be there at different
01:11:23
times and you would be there at different times Nick would his big it wasn't a problem for me but he would
01:11:31
drink sometimes so much he would he would walk in and he'd just be staring at his fish
01:11:37
tank and I go what the hell are you doing they're fascinating I'm watching my fish and and by the way he'd have
01:11:44
lead Zeppelin like cranked to 11 and the neighbor would be knocking yeah we would
01:11:49
get I I instructed the neighbors to not don't bother walking all the way to the door just knock on the wall and I'll
01:11:56
turn down the blaring music that I probably that I should have never had at that level anyway and I'd always use a
01:12:01
Mitch Hedberg line i' I'd go up to the guy would be knocking and I'd go up to the wall and
01:12:07
go hey man you're going to have to go around there's no door on my side um but yeah so I mean but it was
01:12:15
good he's uh he was a pretty good roommate Emanuel asks have you ever gave a beer Three Bottle Caps uh if you look
01:12:23
on my untapped you will you will see some beers that I've rated as low as maybe a two or one and a half
01:12:31
unfortunately for the fans of sour out there I know sour are kind of a popular Trend right now I do not like sour beers
01:12:39
rarely I will get one or have one that somebody will suggest or hand me and and I will enjoy it um but no I don't I
01:12:49
don't typically like sour beers if I want something that has that kind of flavor
01:12:54
I would rather just have a a glass of of wine um well and I think the other thing
01:12:59
too is like why would we have a crappy beer on the show that we didn't like yeah that's kind of a rule like I I
01:13:05
won't put anything on the show that would be lower than like a three and a half because it's supposed to be a beer
01:13:11
recommendation um it's not just you know not just something to fill time you know
01:13:15
we could pick a beer at random and it be a a beer that sucks we're not going to do that we're going to we're going to go
01:13:22
the extra mile and make sure that we're putting out a beer that we're like here this is something you should experience
01:13:27
uh Jason asks when is the TV show coming tomorrow um it will be on tomorrow and it will be it will be every Saturday
01:13:37
immediately after the uh children cartoons on Saturday mornings well we've talked to NBC a little bit and uh we
01:13:42
want to do a show called The Butler but that's not you know that's not it's not going to be about True Crime it's a show
01:13:50
about nothing well it's a show about crime because the guy does crime he does a crime and then he's sentenced to be
01:13:57
the butler these these are all joking answers we don't we don't hold any power over um how that works out yeah at the
01:14:06
end of the day we really enjoy doing the podcast and we really enjoy uh the listeners of the show so and and we've
01:14:14
actually changed that we've now we don't have anybody beating down the door here
01:14:17
but we've had several people contact us great people with great ideas but we have always thrown back at them and said
01:14:25
hey remember we got into this to be podcasters we love doing our show um if we were to take on another project it
01:14:34
cannot affect or downgrade this show in any way yeah and the next big project for us is like we talked about a little
01:14:41
bit earlier is uh we're really putting some time and effort into a audio dock cuz we just think that would be
01:14:47
interesting to do and just a something different for us um to kind of really understand how like something like Cal
01:14:54
was done Kathy asks boxers or briefs boxers okay I once in a while maybe uh a boxer
01:15:03
brief yeah I'm a I'm a boxer brief man myself no boxers for me uh we answered this on the other podcast uh the other
01:15:12
question and answer podcast like I said that's free on the store Page uh at true
01:15:16
crme garage.com but do you listen to other True Crime podcasts and if so what are your favorites
01:15:23
um yes so just honing in on True Crime podcast my favorites would be maybe not in any particular order but ones that I
01:15:33
regularly Listen to I do I do miss episodes because we spend so much time on this project um but I love true
01:15:40
murder that's no secret uh I like Ripper cast a lot um that's a great show sword
01:15:45
and scales good generation why is good um the nighttime podcast is is a favorite of mine but they don't not all
01:15:53
of those do they always cover straight up True Crime yeah Jordan is great if you haven't listened to the nighttime
01:16:00
podcast he always comes up with uh interesting topics even if it's not true crime um I'm not going to go into a
01:16:07
bunch of details check that out tell them the captain sent you Eric ask how many moms does the captain actually know
01:16:15
37 and which ways do you think you have grown personally since you've started the
01:16:20
podcast uh I've put on seven pounds the um maybe they want a real answer regarding just the podcast itself um I
01:16:31
think I've gotten a little better about researching um throughout um we wanted to see at the start of the year can we
01:16:38
do two shows and the reason why was the more and more we got into it look I understand some people just want the
01:16:46
facts just want the facts that's not interesting to me the interesting thing to me is the
01:16:52
facts and then bringing your personality to the table mhm but your research has gotten so much better that I feel some
01:17:00
some some some cases for sure it's like you need the two episodes just to get through the facts yeah and you know
01:17:08
what's weird for me is there's been a couple cases that we've covered that were really covered well in the media
01:17:16
whether it be news or actual documentaries or shows um that I didn't follow when they were actually happening
01:17:23
um because I tend to like lesser known cases um so Casey Anthony although everybody around me was following it I
01:17:30
didn't follow it so much so it was very interesting to me to dive into it for a week or so and the Aurora Theater
01:17:36
shooter um I didn't I didn't pay I was so I was so upset emotionally about that when it happened that I just shied away
01:17:45
from anything that was reported in the news at the time so it was it was interesting to to dive into that for a
01:17:50
few days I need to go back when we talked about the True Crime podcast M I just want to put this out there I'm a
01:17:57
murderino I don't know if I don't know if men are allowed to be a murder Reno but I'm a murder Reno explain what that
01:18:03
means for people that don't know well I I it's just what I think my favorite murder U listeners call themselves okay
01:18:11
but I don't know if men can call them somebody looked that up and also um the funny girls I've only listened to their
01:18:18
show a couple times but whne in crime whine in True Crime uh they always har ass me about Dan I don't know who the
01:18:24
hell Dan is but they harass me about him all the time okay bunch of questions but
01:18:30
uh these are good questions so um Stephanie asked these and she said uh well you ever do a case at
01:18:36
Borders um on whether it could be paranormal or Supernatural I think a lot of people with um Alisa lamb Lisa lamb
01:18:45
case people thought there was maybe some Paranormal Activity and that one was on
01:18:50
our list for so long and we actually considered not covering it because we you know so much of the talk of it was
01:18:57
the Paranormal stuff um and once you get to looking at that thing man you have to
01:19:02
talk about it you have to cover it so yes we will um there'll be other cases out there there's we're getting a lot of
01:19:08
people that want to hear uh cases that that involve like some kind of cult presence um so you know you would have
01:19:15
to factor that in there uh a question that we that I actually get a lot but you probably have more interesting
01:19:21
answers than me uh what are your favorite bands I would have more interesting answers than
01:19:29
you the you know when you ask what's your what's your favorite unsolved case what's your favorite band what's your
01:19:35
favorite cheeseburger you know those questions those answers would I think with all of us would vary by the day by
01:19:42
our mood where we're where we're currently located if you were going to throw me on an island and say you can
01:19:48
only throw a few few albums in your box um who would it be I I have a hard time living without Guns
01:19:55
and Roses I love Guns and Roses I love the stones um I love a much lesser known band than a band called Watershed that's
01:20:03
local to Ohio um they're kind of a a mid to late 90s Midwestern rock kind of feel
01:20:11
I own you know nobody out there will know who they are but I own like five of their albums yeah Guns and Roses Stones
01:20:19
I tend towards more of the older stuff Zeppelin Pink Floyd um and a big shout out to all the Chris Cornell fans and
01:20:26
the sound garden Temple of the Dog fans I that really hurt hurt me uh um he I thought for many years he was one of the
01:20:33
best rock and roll singers heavy rock singers out there uh maybe also a guy I think U you know when you're in like
01:20:42
Middle School and High School you kind of have these celebrities that kind of help dictate your style mhm and I think
01:20:50
Chris Cornell was definitely one guys for you I listened to that super unknown album probably a thousand times um I
01:20:59
listened to it the other day when I when I got the news and man it we we we really lost somebody special last week
01:21:06
and and it makes me sad um kickstand off of that album's one of my favorite sound
01:21:11
garden songs yeah I I said your your answers would be more interesting because what I've learned through my um
01:21:20
diving into music when you start studying it then you start becoming fascinated by a lot of different
01:21:29
spectrums and so the stuff that I listen to that I like some of that stuff is purely uh for the studying of the music
01:21:41
itself the complexity of it so where some of the stuff would be like you like that why the hell do you like that three
01:21:49
spectrums for me people like snarky Puppy people like like uh jao Pastorius people like The Bad Plus those would be
01:21:57
on you know the intellectual studying of Music side uh then there's people like you know John Mayor and Bob Dylan and um
01:22:07
Amos Lee and the singer songwriter side where it's going to be more lyrical and then I have just a you know obsession
01:22:15
with the Sweet Tooth um of just pure pop ballads I just love them you know Michael Balton s Dion Whitney
01:22:27
Houston I just love I think you're kind of getting into another question that that we have on there that is you know
01:22:34
what on your on your playlist would surprise uh people you know what on your music playlist would surprise people
01:22:41
Selen Dion I think people would be really surprised how much I I listen to Selen Dion for me you know if I'm out
01:22:47
partying with friends and and it becomes my turn for my phone to be the one presenting the music
01:22:53
um I always get a little always get a little look when um because I I have a lot of Lady Gaga on my oh yeah on my
01:23:00
devices I love I love Lady Gaga I'm not going to lie that that surprises everybody I like her and I like um uh CA
01:23:08
quite a bit yeah I like c a lot too uh we just lost a bunch of listeners cuz they went the captain listens to Selena
01:23:14
Dion what do you like most about the listeners and what do you like least about the listeners I like everything
01:23:21
about all of our listeners and you don't like there's nothing you don't like there's nothing uh once in a
01:23:27
while we um I love the feedback whether it's good negative or in between um I don't care when someone's rude or calls
01:23:35
me a name I know we kind of call people names on the show um so maybe it's not fair for me to think that way um but
01:23:42
here's what I firmly believe we've created a community uh and we couldn't have done it without the listeners
01:23:47
they've been fantastic uh they're the biggest part of the community uh we hope that one day we all retire together and
01:23:54
move to beautiful Parts Unknown we're currently installing a wave pool that is going to be amazing um it's only 3 foot
01:24:01
tall right now so we're working on that once we get the funds we're going to extend it send more beer fund money uh
01:24:07
so I like everything about the listeners I I can't think of anything that I don't
01:24:11
like because I think that people that don't like the show or don't like us or our presentation I think they eventually
01:24:18
move on so they're not part of the the community right and to stick with this this is really interesting question all
01:24:25
right so the question is do you think that there's a responsibility of a podcast host that are male that deal
01:24:31
with a large audience that is female you know uh respecting their fans respecting
01:24:37
their listeners I I think the word fan is kind of goofy you're a listener you're a friend that's what you are you
01:24:44
know it's it's pretty simple um but but respecting their listeners by not asking
01:24:51
for nudes and being sensitive to cases of rape and domestic violence uh well here's my thoughts okay I I love the
01:25:00
question who do we do we have a name uh Stephanie I think yep Stephanie great question uh but I I'll answer it by
01:25:07
saying this I think I think anybody putting out something for the general public to to Chomp on regardless of male
01:25:14
or female or transgender or whatever the situation I think we all have a responsibility uh to to to be
01:25:22
sympathetic to victims and be open-minded about uh who we are speaking to and and how we are presenting
01:25:30
information uh but as far as like the nude stuff I know that Nick uh I've heard some rumors about other podcasts I
01:25:37
don't request them I just send them right Nick likes to send no that's a joke but you know what's so funny is
01:25:43
that's a good question from Stephanie because what what do we keep hearing in the news right now that that a lot of
01:25:48
these older men that are of some form of power on TV and different shows that we're starting to find out about things
01:25:56
that they're being accused of which may or may not be true um here's the deal man people in every Walk of Life some of
01:26:04
them cross the line um from time to time um do do I feel responsibility regarding
01:26:11
that personally no because I don't think that's a line that the captain or I would ever ever cross well it's let's
01:26:18
put it this way um I have received a bunch of I think inappropriate pictures now I'm I'm not I
01:26:28
don't even know if inappropriate is the right word but you know when somebody sends you a Snapchat and there's four
01:26:34
pictures of food right this is what I had for breakfast this is what I had for lunch then all of a sudden it's them in
01:26:41
the shower here's here's a picture of me wearing nothing but bacon right my reply was just it's a
01:26:49
little odd why because I don't know you and I think uh I see you paid your water
01:26:57
bill this month right but I I think um I think that stuff is should be Sav for people that you have intimate
01:27:05
relationships with or you're trying to learn about that person that stuff is not for some guy that you listen to once
01:27:14
a week talk about murders you know that you know that's just where I stand on it
01:27:19
do you guys hang out outside of doing the podcast um on occasion not as much as we
01:27:26
used to because we do spend so much time uh together with this project um we I think part of it is we need our space
01:27:35
away from one another as a way of having space away from the show and from True Crime in general um and you know it's
01:27:43
exciting to to hang out uh with the captain um on most levels the problem is we're both so eyeballs deep in this
01:27:52
project that a lot of times now when we do hang out it's it feels a lot like work because we talk a lot of shop yeah
01:27:58
and we annoy each other like so much more than we used to so there's a lot of times where it's just like uh you know I
01:28:06
sent him a text yesterday and then he's sending me shitty texts back you know 2 minutes later and it's like you have to
01:28:12
remind him I didn't mean it shitty just but you know we can it's just any time like when you go on vacation with a best
01:28:20
friend and by the end of it you're like God I'm sick this guy ain't my best friend anymore right summer Jerry all
01:28:26
right next question uh this one is for the captain captain you obviously produced the show and recorded the show
01:28:33
have you produced for any bands or recorded any bands well and this kind of goes with another question CU somebody
01:28:40
asked what's our regular jobs do you want to start with your regular job uh I'm I'm involved in Property Management
01:28:47
um and I have been for many many years um it's something I enjoy doing um so that's kind of my regular job he
01:28:55
somewhat enjoys doing yeah depends on the day yeah well with any job with right and my mine is pretty simple I
01:29:02
used to play a bunch of cover band gigs I I have stopped doing that because of the show the show has afforded me to be
01:29:09
able to not play in the cover bands anymore which has been great but cheers to the guys that I used to play with
01:29:14
great guys um but now all the stuff is just Studio stuff so if you haven't checked out I have a singer songwriter
01:29:21
that a singer songwriter record that I just did called St Patrick and um the album is called tin man you can find
01:29:28
that on iTunes uh we've received a lot of good feedback on a handful of those songs yeah you know people are always
01:29:36
surprised when they're like wow this is very uh sad and sappy well that's what you get that's what you get I didn't
01:29:42
find it all that sad and sappy but um you know one thing I do miss Captain is that I I used to go and see his bands um
01:29:52
and I say bands plural because you know he do different projects throughout the years but sometimes he'd be playing in
01:29:57
multiple bands at once um so I always enjoyed going he would play sometimes two three times a week now I would try
01:30:05
to go once a once a month was usually what I like to do once a month or so it was always a good time so I do I do miss
01:30:12
that Captain well he always ran up my my bar tab as much as I could but no so what I do for a living now is um you
01:30:20
know if if more people would buy that record I could just do that for a living but I I work for a producer in Australia
01:30:28
and we do uh songs for films or commercials and I do editing work that way so audio engineering is basically
01:30:36
the the simple answer so when people go your show sounds pretty good I'm like well it should because that's what I do
01:30:43
Bradley ask how is Nick able to keep the conversation going when the captain always makes his hilarious comments
01:30:52
I don't find him all that funny um oh jab um no no I actually I find the captain very funny but um you know I'm
01:31:02
the True Crime dork me I'm I'm I'm already like emerged into the the story and and how we want to deliver it um so
01:31:13
I you know I just try to keep on Pace it's all about keeping on Pace a couple more uh thoughts on the upcoming Brown
01:31:19
season will they break 500 this is from Brian oh Brian I love you I love the snowball question um here here we go
01:31:27
Brian bad news we will not be 500 or better than 500 but good news I got good news we're moving in the right direction
01:31:35
I really believe that picking up mccordi will sh up the defensive back field quite a bit uh which is going to be
01:31:41
important because our defensive front is going to be incredibly disruptive to uh
01:31:46
any offense that we play this year I looked at the schedule I'm thinking seven games games is kind of the over
01:31:52
and under we for those of you that don't don't know football real well you play in a division with three other teams
01:31:59
four teams in the division and you'll play each of those three teams twice once home and once away I think we'll
01:32:05
split the division I think we'll win three games in the division and there's there's four games in the regular season
01:32:10
that look to be winnable games so I think seven but Brian I got good news to you buddy cheers long distance cheers to
01:32:16
you because I think 2018 we will crack the 500 Mark a question ask often is why is the captain
01:32:24
always mean to Nick I'll let you take that one I don't know why you're mean to me uh I get really frustrated and Nick
01:32:32
will attest to this I'm setting up the show and putting all the pieces in place and you know if he messes up on a word
01:32:41
then I have to go back and then I'm editing um I just get frustrated and I'm really bad at um he'll get mad about
01:32:50
people mowing their grass or or we had a a a nest of birds in the garage not in the garage in the gutter of the garage
01:32:58
and um that I can hear it and it insane and I think he thought I was doing something that was was messing with his
01:33:05
audio well and the other thing too is uh what's that what's that thing where you
01:33:11
hate listening to somebody eat uh that's something I don't know anything about you've you've told me about it I there's
01:33:17
some people I don't like to watch eat right but well it's like I can hear every Nuance of Nick's breathing and
01:33:24
stuff so sometimes that just drives me insane um but M sometimes I try to turn that off the best shows are when I can
01:33:34
just hit record and kind of turn everything off and turn off the producer side and turn off the the audio dork
01:33:42
side and just be a part of the conversation uh interesting question is why do you tell people to be kind and
01:33:50
don't litter is that like an inside joke question mark no um I think everybody should be kind to one another and I
01:33:58
don't think anybody should throw their trash on the on the ground um I'm not like some big environmentalist if if
01:34:05
that's what anybody's wondering but you know a few years ago I did have a problem um because one thing that drives
01:34:12
me nuts is when I see somebody roll down their window and throw a a pop can out or a or a bag of of fast food here's a
01:34:22
news flash for everybody everywhere you every destination you end up will have a
01:34:27
trash can at the other end if you're going to a public place if you're going to a restaurant if you're going to a gas
01:34:32
station you're going to your own home there will be a trash can there if you're so lazy that you can't throw away
01:34:38
your own trash and furthermore so selfish that you think that everybody else should just walk amongst your trash
01:34:45
because you're a lazy loow life um then no I just it bothers me and like I said a few years ago I had to stop myself a
01:34:54
couple times because I started I I started following cars if I saw somebody throw something out I'd follow them for
01:35:00
a little bit like I was going to do something at the end of that ride um no I just think we we live we're fortunate
01:35:07
enough to live in a beautiful planet um and in a beautiful surrounding there's if you have any future at all you would
01:35:15
want to keep it beautiful for yourself and the rest of us Bonnie asks have I ever tried cheese on an apple pie yet
01:35:22
have I done that no I'm not I'm not a psychopath I've tried it once not since the show you're a psychopath I tried it
01:35:29
once not going to do it well maybe I'll do it one day we'll do a meet up somebody bring some apple pie with some
01:35:36
cheese on it and I I'll eat it here's why I tried it there's a part in Pulp Fiction where um I believe it's Bruce
01:35:43
Willis's girlfriend and she's been waiting for him all day long at the hotel and all she wants to do is go to
01:35:49
the diner and get a nice meal and get get a piece of pie with cheese on top and so I thought wow I've never heard of
01:35:56
that before this is crazy talk right psychopath I I was I was hanging out with my grandmother recently after that
01:36:03
after seeing that movie and thinking about the cheese on the pie and cuz I was wondering if it was like an old
01:36:08
school thing that I just didn't know about she said she had many times in her life had had well she's a raging
01:36:14
psychopath and um thanks for talking poorly about my grandmother fine that's that's um but uh yeah so I tried it U
01:36:25
didn't love it all right we'll do uh let's do two more questions and get out of here because I got to do some work uh
01:36:32
John ask have you ever and we get asked this all the time when are you going to start a patreon site I don't think we're
01:36:39
going to we're not going to um we know that other shows do it they do a release if you release early here's the fact of
01:36:48
the matter and then the people that say don't do ads go back back to not doing ads the ads is what affords the show we
01:36:56
couldn't do two shows a week without ads right cuz we have to spend a lot of time
01:37:01
and energy on it and it's a way to supplement it it's also a way that you don't have to supplement it we're not
01:37:08
asking for your dollar we're getting dollars from the ads and then that way we can put out free shows and we'd
01:37:15
rather put out eight free shows a month or whatever it come you know two two free shows a week than to charge you
01:37:23
more show you know for more shows now we do have some bonus episodes that we're doing and some of those are going to be
01:37:31
just you know one parters and things like that um well and we've been lucky though too because with with our show we
01:37:40
had this dumb idea about beer money you know buy us around for next week's show and everybody has been overly generous
01:37:47
with that you know we we do get a good response from that and so and we're currently way behind yeah we can only do
01:37:54
so many shout outs a show and I apologize that we haven't got to you yet but we do do them on a first come first
01:37:59
serve basis um and so we will get to everybody eventually um we understand why other shows do the patreon I think
01:38:06
it's a great thing um and it works for their platform and their show um our show like I said we got the beer fund
01:38:14
build in there so it's not it's not really necessary right like we said uh we're way behind on it so some times
01:38:21
people message us and go hey I donated last week and I haven't heard my name yet you're not going to hear your name
01:38:27
for a couple weeks we're behind so and we apologize and we apologize but but it's out of our control but we're also
01:38:33
not going to spend you know 10 minutes of the show thanking people no but we could do like once every three months we
01:38:41
could do a a a drunken nick uh Shout Out Show where it's just me butchering everybody's names and locations right uh
01:38:50
you know nobody wants to listen to that okay so the last question we'll do for this Q&A session is has any Britney and
01:38:58
Phoenix wants to hear that episode no no she have you been recognized in person since birth have you been recognized uh
01:39:08
from the show no I don't think that I have I've I've had people um look at you funny um I Nick told me this story one
01:39:18
time where he's like these I had a true crime Garage shirt on and and these people were kind of looking at me funny
01:39:24
yeah yeah I did I did have that happen um but I've had other people you know tell me later that somebody came up to
01:39:31
them and said hey was that um was that the captain or was that Nick from from True Crime garage so no I've not
01:39:39
experienced it firsthand uh I had a listener messaged me I was at a local uh Pub that I like to go to uh Hopyard 62 I
01:39:49
think it's called I just call it Hopyard you just called it something but it's Hopyard yeah and I I like to get their
01:39:55
flights um the only Annoying Thing about those guys that you just say just give me a flight well what what do you want
01:40:01
just whatever no well what do you like just pick just that's why I'm here it's for you to pick in their defense they're
01:40:10
not used to that that I know I know type of ordering so we're outside and we're you know drinking my flight and I guess
01:40:17
somebody heard my voice and was like oh my God that has to be the captain uh and
01:40:23
then they never came up and said hello they messaged you later that they had seen you somewhere yeah well the I think
01:40:29
the girl's husband said hey uh me and my wife were here and we thought it was you
01:40:35
we couldn't tell we tried to listen I said this you should have came and said hi I would have bought I would have
01:40:40
bought beers for everybody uh I had a lot of flights that night I got a little out of control that's what I like to
01:40:47
call around the world right well that's what I like to to call emptying out my savings account um no but just you know
01:40:56
just be nice and respectful and just know uh I mean I'll kick the [ __ ] out of a clown's junk don't think I won't kick
01:41:03
you if you get out of line that's all I'm saying but if you recognize us which you probably won't unless you're in
01:41:10
Columbus um come say hi have a beer all right that's enough of the questions that's enough of the business uh that's
01:41:19
enough of the questions thanks for uh thanks Aurelia at our Facebook page for the help thanks for Cody on the the fan
01:41:27
page if you haven't checked that out on Facebook it's it's it's actually really cool it's not so much like oh let's uh
01:41:34
let's talk about how awesome Nick and the captain are it's more it's kind of a group discussion about the cases so if
01:41:41
you listen to the episode and you have some thoughts and opinions that's kind of what they do there and it's pretty
01:41:46
cool and it's run by a good guy named Cody uh as always follows us on social media @ True Crime garage Snapchat
01:41:54
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01:42:01
this week and thank you especially to those of you that submitted questions for the Q&A show M we can't wait to see
01:42:07
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