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May 20, 2025 / 05:00

This episode covers Pete Rose's tribute night at the Cincinnati Reds game, his MLB records, and the controversy surrounding his Hall of Fame eligibility.

Crime highlights Rose's record of 4,256 hits and compares it to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's points record, emphasizing the longevity required to achieve such milestones.

The episode touches on Rose's betting scandal, his defense of betting only on his team, and the ongoing debate about his exclusion from the Hall of Fame.

Listeners gain insight into the impact of Pete Rose on baseball and the mixed feelings surrounding his legacy.

TLDR

Nick Crime discusses Pete Rose's tribute night, his MLB records, and the controversy over his Hall of Fame exclusion.

Episode

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Welcome to Off the Record. I'm your host Nick Crime. It's good to be seen and it's good to see you. Off the record.
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Gather around. Grab a chair. Grab a beer. Let's talk some crap. Welcome and schmeal and all that good stuff. Off the
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record, otr cuz you nasty. If you're nasty. Cuz you nasty. You so nasty. Or if you're nasty. We're recording this
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the day after I went to Pete Rose night at the Cincinnati Reds baseball game. So
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they they did a sadly Pete Rose passed away at the end of last year and they did a night to just a a fullblown
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awesome tribute night to Pete Rose. Everybody was wearing Pete Rose jerseys. There was one thing that was really cool
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on the Jumbotron, they kept showing like old TV commercials that he did for like
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Wedies and Aqua Velva and a few different different uh brands and that was really cool. Plus, there were some
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of my well probably are, you know, childhood heroes and some from the baseball diamond. Anyway, Barry Larkin
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was there, Eric Davis was there, Ken Griffy Senior was there. So, that was and they were talking on mic to to the
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crowd about Pete Rose and experiences they had whether playing with him or playing for him because he was a manager
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and he was he was and remains the hit king, right? He he is the all-time hits leader for Major League Baseball. I
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believe that number is the record is 4,000. So when he broke the record, I I think he broke the record, it was
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4,126 hits. Now people, they do play 163 games, I believe, a year. Yeah, 163 games in a regular season. So, some
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people may say, "Well, 4,000 hits does not sound like a lot when you play that many games." And we do know that
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baseball is not as strenuous or as dangerous as some of the other sports. So, a lot of times those guys can have
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lengthy careers, but to put it into perspective, he did that in 1985. So, he still holds that record
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still to this day. So, it's it I liken it to remember Kareem Abdul Jabbar had the points he was the points leader,
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all-time points leader until LeBron James broke it what, three years ago, I think. Uh, he broke it last
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year. Yeah. And so, I mean, think of think of all the guys that have come and gone in that sport and have not been
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able to beat the the points leader for all those years. Michael Jordan didn't do it. Carl Malone didn't do it. Well,
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you got to have the longevity. Yeah. And so, and do you know how many three-pointers that made in his career?
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I do not. I don't think he he didn't shoot very many of them. I know that. I think he only made one. Oh, but you
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couldn't Nobody could block the sky hook. Nobody could block the skyhook. So, when all was said and done for the
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lifetime of his career, he batted 303. He had a batting average of 303, which is incredible career batting average.
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finished with 4,256 hits. Famously born April 14th. The tribute night was May 14th because
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they didn't have any base uh well, they didn't have a home game April 14th uh here in Cincinnati. So, they did it in
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May 14th and the number 14 will forever be Pete Rose's number in my mind. Now, did you see that they just
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yesterday removed him? So, people outside of Ohio probably won't know of these conversations unless you're like a
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baseball dieard. But in the state of Ohio, if you bring up his name, people have always said, and these I imagine
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these are people that want him to be in the Hall of Fame. Pete Rose is not allowed in the Hall of Fame due because
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he was caught betting on baseball. And his defense always was that he only, hey, I only bet for my team to win. And
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of course, I'm out there playing and coaching to win. So, what what is wrong with that? Now, I will say this. I push
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back a little bit when people say, "Well, you know, he only bet on the Reds to win." And I always push back and go,
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"Well, it gets a little dicey to sort that out, right?" It gets a little We don't know that for certain. We We can't
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Yeah, we weren't there when he placed every bet. Now, I I because I like Pete Rose, uh I would like to see him in the
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Hall of Fame,

Episode Highlights

  • Tribute to Pete Rose
    A heartfelt tribute night for Pete Rose at the Cincinnati Reds game, celebrating his legacy.
    “Everybody was wearing Pete Rose jerseys.”
    @ 01m 05s
    May 20, 2025
  • Pete Rose's Record
    Pete Rose remains the all-time hits leader in Major League Baseball with 4,256 hits.
    “He is the all-time hits leader for Major League Baseball.”
    @ 01m 47s
    May 20, 2025
  • Controversy Surrounding Hall of Fame
    Discussion about Pete Rose's exclusion from the Hall of Fame due to betting on baseball.
    “I would like to see him in the Hall of Fame.”
    @ 04m 58s
    May 20, 2025

Episode Quotes

  • Be good. Be kind. And don't live. True crime.
    Charlie Hustle ////// Off The Record /// Preview
  • The number 14 will forever be Pete Rose's number in my mind.
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  • It gets a little dicey to sort that out, right?
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Key Moments

  • Welcome00:07
  • Pete Rose Night00:44
  • Baseball Legends01:28
  • Hall of Fame Debate04:19

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