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[Music] on this show we talk a lot about monsters depraved Killers rapists robbers home Invaders people who are
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just evil people who are on the fringes of society who normal citizens describe as odd sick or just off people who whose
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inner depravity shows on the outside but who are the scariest monsters of all the
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ones who don't look like Monsters the ones who blend in the guy next door the nice guy the friend to all our story
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this week tells the story of one of these nice guys a man who everyone said was Charming charismatic and intelligent
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this man was considered by those who knew him as an allaround great guy but this man had another side a dark side
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that he kept hidden from everyone until it emerged with an explosive urge to assault terrorize and
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attack this would happen over and over again with this man with unknown numbers of women and girls being victimized by
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this monster until he finally killed someone when police in Maine finally caught up with
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William Joel caulk he was already arrested by the authorities from New Hampshire picked up in North Carolina
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after he's in custody in New Hampshire we learn that this guy was on the run at the time that he killed Niki
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Cleveland he was on the run from California authorities for a bunch of attacks that he committed just months
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prior to Nikki's murder and then we' talked about this a lot with escalations in crimes especially sexually motivated
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crimes and when the attacker was not identified by name he was given the moniker of the want ad
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rapist so it seems like this all started around May of 1979 Captain this is when
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women in the San Francisco Bay Area experienced a terrifying phenomenon the onead rapist struck over and over again
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the mo was always the same the female victims some of them with husbands had run classified ads in the local papers
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that they were buying or selling an item of furniture might be a crib or a high chair or sewing
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machine items typically owned by women but occasionally some other household items as well a man would call the home
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telephone number in the ad and set up a meeting to view the item somehow the man
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would often Finagle a time to meet the sellers at their homes when they were home alone this would be typically
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during the work day when he showed up if a man answered the door he would pull a
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gun and Rob him if a woman answered the door he would be sure that they were alone and after pretending to be
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interested in conducting the sale transaction he would turn on the unsuspecting woman he would pull a gun
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and he would take them to a bedroom where he would bind them with wire or surgical tape and he would tape over
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their eyes and he would gag them then he would rape them afterwards he would leave them tied up and helpless while he
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rans sacked and robbed their homes then he would disappear now the rapist did not appear
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to discriminate based on what the victims look like simply would respond to these ads and as
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said if there was a man he would pull a gun and Rob him if if if it was a woman that answered the door he would make
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sure that they were alone and then he would attack rape and Rob and then flee right police all over the area we
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scrambling to catch this guy he struck again and again and again and in multiple
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areas there were 13 known victims of this evil scheme and of course many more were suspected word of his activity
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spread all over the state of California much like the Golden State killer or the
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original nightstalker but there's also a level of sophistication here because if
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the plan was just I only attack females than the male victims which if he didn't
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decide to rob them they would be able to get a better look at him correct and and
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so when you put somebody in in a state of fear or a State of Shock they're less likely to remember details about you
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that is true the the other strange thing though is you you reference that level of
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sophistication it is a little weird that he doesn't attempt to disguise himself as far as we know I have been told and
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read that this guy was kind of a Ted Bundy type that his appearance could change fairly dramatically right with
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with the addition of facial hair or a different haircut so maybe he was using those techniques sometimes people
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sometimes offenders will wear glasses when they don't need them so he could have been using those techniques and
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you're right you you you stick a gun in somebody's face guess what they're paying attention to now right the gun
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not your face not your bright shiny teeth I'm guessing because he's not disguising himself and of course if he
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was wearing a ski mask nobody's answering the door if they see that in advance right unless they have reverse
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peep holes but given given his M Mo it's very easy to connect these crimes for law enforcement these are women that are
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placing ads selling an item dude calls about said item and then attacks the woman in their home so in November of
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1980 we have the Redwood City Police they're like hey we got to come up with a plan and catch this guy so what they
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did was they placed a air quotes dummy ad similar to the ones that the rapist had responded to in the past and used a
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female officer to answer the phone when he called the phone number in the ad so this is much like what's his name Chris
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Hansen you show up uh to the underage girls home and Chris Hansen sitting there and the dude walks in and he goes
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you know what are you doing here how to catch a predator yeah hey I got a pizza so they use this a very similar
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technique place this ad in the paper they got the a female officer answering the phone and they give him an address
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to show up to and of course he shows up they arrest the guy now here's the problem when the guy that they the guy
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shows up and he's arrested this doesn't confirm 100% % that this is your rapist that you're
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looking for in a perfect world you would let him start committing the crime but you can't take that chance no because
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hiso is to pull a gun right and now you have a a a very bad situation criminal with a gun on your officer and even if
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you can storm the place and you still run the risk of him shooting her or shooting a bunch of other people in the
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process before you can take him out yeah but what you do is you take a vote and the least liked person on the law
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enforcement team I don't care if it's a secretary the least likely person in that department you put them as the bait
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yeah so this is a good plan however he's not going to show up to the scene and go
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hey it's me the one ad rapist so the guy that they arrest could just be a normal
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innocent looking person yeah but what they can do is take that picture and put him in a lineup and see if any of the
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other victims can identify him so what they do here Captain is they're going to at least give him an
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interview and ask him a bunch of questions now they do the interview process it sounds like nothing to them
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screamed out this is our guy he's the rapist and they don't have really any evidence to connect him one one thing
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that I I will criti ize the police here in this matter oh here we go is you would think that a red flag would
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go immediately up when you find a roll of heavyduty tape in his vehicle when he showed up to the scene yeah but it
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depends because we know tape was used in the other crimes no no I understand that
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but it all depends on what else you find in that trunk I mean I know some of my friends that are very handy and they
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they help their friends with home projects whenever need be that they'll have you know some tools and some some
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items like tape and and other things in their car at all times the other major red flag should have
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been the guy you arrested Joel Bill caulk had a previous record he's a criminal he had been convicted at the
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age of 22 in March of 1970 for Burg y assault with a deadly weapon assault to commit rape and rape with
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Force sounds to me like you got your guy anyway in 197 go ahead but this is the problem that we always talk about and
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this is you know as much as these cases you know we can criticize you know little
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tiny moves or big moves that law enforcement make or don't make but the fact of the matter is you can have a
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bunch of red flags but that doesn't mean you can convict the person 100% I agree
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with you and and and that's where I I always feel for law enforcement because they're constantly asked to do things
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that most normal individuals wouldn't do I mean just like you were saying the a guy smells an odor goes into the woods
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finds a dead body he then has to call the police the police then have to confirm that that would not be a fun day
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on the job for the 1970 burglary assault with a deadly weapon and rape Joel Bill
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caulk received 5 years in prison unfortunately he gets out for good behavior after 20 months so he's
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released in December of 1971 so let me say that again he did less than two years for rape that's shameful that and
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again that but the sometimes law enforcement or prosecutors their hands are tied so they're just they're trying
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to get some kind of time to get this animal off the street well they got 5 years it it was up to the corrections
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that let him out for the good behavior but we're not done with his police record yet I'm so tired of this good
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behavior [ __ ] and just like the case that we're talking about uh I believe it was last week when when they when the
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time of the crimes the person is a drunk and an alcoholic and can't have those substances in prison then yes they might
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behave themselves a little bit better or they might behave themselves because there's bigger animals and bigger
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monsters that are locked away with them and if they don't behave themselves they're going to get killed and so when
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they get out then they pray on weaker individuals so I just think this whole good behavior [ __ ] should go away just
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get rid of it you do a crime you're going to do the fulltime I don't give a [ __ ] how well you're behaving yourself
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when you're watching your basic cable and you're listening to podcast in your cell just sit there and rot well we're
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not done with his police record yet because sorry I'm I'm I'll I'll step off my soap box for a second well and this
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is why I'm saying it's shocking to me that they're they don't believe that they have their guy and you're right
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they don't have anything to 100% take this to court and convict the onead rapist but I mean listen to
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the similarities in this next crime this takes place in April of 1974 this is when he knocks on a woman's
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front door in Santa Maria and he asked to use her phone of course 1974 this is a lot more common
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nobody would do that today uh and if they do don't let him into your home but as soon as he's
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inside inside the house and as soon as the door is closed he pulls a handgun he tapes her
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eyes and mouth shut he brought tape with him to the scene for this purpose he rapes the woman steals money from her
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purse and then leaves the home that to me sounds nearly 90% identical to the want add rapist emmo yes
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so the Survivor is able to very specific Al give a great description a very specific description to police who work
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up a composite sketch this sketch is circulated to local law enforcement and the police would later
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say that the sketch and the the witnesses State the victim statements is what led them to the perpetrator so the
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police quickly tie this attack and rape to Joel caulk he's already out he's on parole in a nearby County for that
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earlier rape conviction that he got out on good behavior and they suspect him in
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several other cases at the time as well so once again he is sent away and this is from mid
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1974 until early 1979 I don't understand why we don't have longer sentences for rape anyways
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if we we do today this is the 70s right so what we're seeing here is you have to
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chalk some of this up to it being the 70s and sex crimes against women unfortunately were being overwhelmingly
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ignored by the legal system at that time and we've we've done some good work in the decades later to correct this but I
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guarantee you if men were if men were getting raped as often as women were would have would have sentenced is up to
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life for for even just attempted rape while he's in prison for the second time again gets out in
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1979 a prison psychiatrist who evaluated him said that this said that he was well
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on his way to working through his basic conflicts and and labeled Joel a good candidate for parole this guy is this
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guy's a the FY Malik of the psychiatric World well and we know what we know Captain is these individuals
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that cannot be rehabilitated and this man certainly fits that description that when they are in prison yeah they might
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be behaving well in good behavior while they're in prison but a lot of times they're simply sitting there plotting
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and coming up with a more sophisticated way to commit the same crimes that landed them there in the first place
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they are refining their M Mo and they should do what they did to that sicko and True Detective get
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rid of the weapon therefore that individual couldn't commit a rape ever again well what they do is they take his
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picture they take his information they show it around to the one add rapist victims and we have several of the
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victims saying yeah that's the guy you you did get the right guy right so in November of 1980 warrants
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for the arrest of Joel Bill caulk were issued by Santa Clara County and there were
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also warrants that were issued for rapes and robberies in three other counties as
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well but caulk was not so dumb he didn't want to go back to prison he had been there twice before he wanted to continue
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to rape and Rob people so he split town he was in the wind and in fact nobody could find Joel for 19 months
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authorities finally caught up with him in North Carolina that's when caul admitted to
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eight of the attacks in several different counties that took place in 1980 but he didn't really take
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responsibility because he told police that he struggled with a quote bad guy inside of himself who emerged about once
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a month and drove him to do the bad things that he did Joel said that he couldn't recall
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the victims or what they look like they were just objects to him he said that he
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answered hundreds of ads calling them to find a woman alone and he told police that he wanted
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air cheers to everybody in the back tall cans in the air that's right wait hold on hold on Joe Joe Joe are you
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listening hello Joe all right Joe Joe's back he's with us so by July of 1982 Joel culk is up to it in his up to
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his neck in it by now right he's been extradited to New Hampshire on the armed robbery and rape warrant and five
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additional charges were added for burglaries and rapes that he had committed in the granite state he ended
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up pleading guilty to six charges of rape armed robbery and burglary for crimes that he committed in New
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Hampshire this in June and July of 1982 in June 1983 a New Hampshire judge sentenced him to 10 to20 years for
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aggravated felonious sexual assault and 5 to 10 for burglary to be served consecutively so he wouldn't be eligible
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for parole until 1998 but New Hampshire wasn't the only state that wanted its pound of Flesh
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California got in line filing charg chares against him for the attacks that he confessed to in their state now how
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this works normally right is if he is charged first in one state even if the crimes took place earlier in a different
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state if he's charged first in state a he has to then live out that sentence first and
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then when he's done being sentenced for that he doesn't get to be released he has to then face charges from the from
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State B typically yes that's how it works sometimes if you're convicted of a much more heinous crime in another state
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sometimes they will send you off to that state to face charges and and uh FaceTime there well and if I was the
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judge and he was saying hey look don't put me in prison you know we can work this out I'd say look here's what we're
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going to do we are going to waterboard you we're going to cane you we're going to do this
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repeatedly for years less years than you'd Ser serve in prison and if you could survive we might think about letting you
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out so now we're in 1983 right and we have the convictions in New Hampshire we have this individual in
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custody that gets convicted he also confesses to all of the crimes in New Hampshire that he's charged with and to
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a lot of the crimes that he ends up getting charged with in California he as part of these confessions he says
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the rape charges are true but that a demon inside of him a separate person with uncontrollable urges and
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drives they made him act they they were controlling him and he's going to use this this
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part to be a defense in in his defense on the charges of murder of Nikki Cleveland so just so we're clear let's
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Circle back to those murder charges and that trial yeah Captain so we had touched on this a little bit yesterday
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when we said that hey they have the phone records that show that the calls came from his home to the real estate
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agents office and home the day before she met with the potential buyer and was kidnapped and then found
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dead we also have the evidence that we stated about the gun that he had stole from somebody in an attack that he
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committed in California telling police that he used it for other criminal activity after stealing the weapon
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police say that they tracked down bullets at a firing range that matched ballistically matched the bullets that
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they found in the victim Nikki Cleveland but that wasn't it the additional evidence that they have was that Joel
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culk left work at 11:30 on the day of the murder without explanation and this was July 13th he doesn't return to work
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until July 16th doesn't tell doesn't come up with an an explanation why he missed work
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where he was what had happened but we know he's unaccounted for at the time of the kidnapping
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because the appointment was was set for 1 to 2: p.m. on the 13th we don't know where Joel is after
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11:30 a.m. on that day and nobody can tell us where he is the other thing too is we have our I
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witness who says yes Joel caulk looks exactly like the guy that I saw that day driving a green blue blue green vehicle
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as she described it and later we learned learned that he owned a blue Ford Maverick at his trial the prosecutor
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told the jury quote Mr caulk is a man who has raped and Abused Women Coast to Coast he is a monster the state
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presented evidence from a deputy medical examiner that Nikki was shot in the head
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while she was kneeling her hands bound behind her back she was killed where she was found caulk had marched her into the
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woods made her Neil and shot her at the trial culk did not take the stand the jury found him guilty of Nikki's murder
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this was in July 1987 she was killed in 81 they deliberated for less than two hours so it sounds like the evidence the
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mountain of evidence against him was enough to convince them in relatively quick
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fashion at sentencing culk addressed the court he made maintained his innocence in Nikki Cleveland's case he pointed out
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that he had plad guilty to other crimes he had been convicted of he said that he plad guilty in those
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crimes because quote I put my victims through enough without putting them through something again in a trial the
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reason we had a trial in this case is because I didn't do it and that's the only reason end quote the judge was not
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moved by the statement in fact the judge said quote the mere fact that you admit
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to some and don't admit to this doesn't mean a thing to me he cited the sophistication premeditation of the
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crime and the lack of remorse the judge's job as he saw it was to make sure that Joel caulk never sees the
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light of day again right so he sentenced him to life in prison without parole well like we said I mean there's a level
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of sophistication with him you know if I show up to this crime and it's a female
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I do this crime I act this way if it's a male I act this way but there's an escalation and so he's raped and
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he's robbed and assaulted so many people and now we have this murder it's the only murder that he's charged with I
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I have it I have a hard time believing that this was the first one or the only one right because the whole situation
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with our victim Nikki Cleveland here to me is it's a little bizarre so she unfortunately Bears the dubious
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distinction of being the only one of his victims that we know of who he actually
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killed I did see a report and I wish that I could have found the victim's name so we could get details of that
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crime but I saw a mention that he is suspected in at least one murder in California but I again couldn't find any
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information on that case or if it's even still outstanding if it's still open right because a lot of this information
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that we were able to pull on this guy came from the time Peri came from 1981 1986
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1987 so in ' 86 he's indicted for the murder of Nikki Cleveland in Maine we do know that
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sometimes these rapists graduate if you will to a more severe crime of murder it's not terribly uncommon the
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other thing though too is we know he was on the run from California authorities for
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pretty for crimes that he he did he had the same Mo each time and it's a pretty specific M Mo so he could have gone to
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Maine and as he says he's got this thing inside of him that once a month makes him do these bad things yeah I believe
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the doctors call that a Serial Killer's monthly period clearly he couldn't control his urges to victimize a
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woman and maybe this was the only one maybe he did it this way maybe he kidnapped her put her in the trunk of
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his car drives to another location and kills the witness the victim because he thought
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well police will easily put this together and figure out that I am on the run for similar crimes in California if
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I let this victim live right so maybe she is the only one listeners not to give everybody a homework assignment but
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if anybody has a clue what this other case is that he might have been suspected for in California please send
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us the information we would really like to know we would really like to to review it and
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cross reference it with the information that we've built up against this guy because I frankly have a hard time
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believing that he didn't kill somebody else yeah I again because of the escalation but also this guy is an
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every definition of the word he is a sick monster we already talked about Mary critchley the person that was found
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August 9th 1981 found N9 days after Nikki Cleveland and the she's always been suspected to
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be a victim of the Connecticut River Valley killer who had a very specific Mo that is very different than the crimes
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we know that Joel C committed but we do not get a cause of death in her case because of the decom that took place the
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medical examiner wasn't able to to determine the cause of death and we don't get any information as to what
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type of injuries she suffered what I'm getting at here Captain is a lot of times these
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guys the crimes they're committing yes he has orchestrated some of this he's put some of these in place by responding
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to ads in California but it wouldn't be difficult to believe that he's probably driving
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around with a rape kit in his car at all times if we have victims that in Connecticut River Valley cases that are
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hitchhiking who's to say if he's willing to walk into somebody's home and do this
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to them there there's nothing preventing him from picking up an unsuspecting hitchhiker offering her a ride and then
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pulling a gun on her there right so it's really difficult to believe it's it's I
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know they tell us this might be the only murder that he committed but it's a it's
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a very hard pill to swallow but he's also robbing these victims and by robbing those victims then he doesn't
00:37:21
have to have an full-time employment which just gives him more of a chance to have more opportunities another strange
00:37:29
thing that this guy did once he's in prison right apparently he didn't want to serve out the sentence or at least
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serve a long sentence of life in prison with no parole so at some point he decides to stop
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eating hunger strike yeah but not necessarily a hunger strike because he's he has no demands for them to fill right
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it's just I'm not eating I'm going to wither away and die well they don't like this they should have
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just let him die law law enforcement does not like this they want him to serve the sentence that he was convicted
00:38:07
of in sentence to they want him to live like you said earlier Captain sit in prison and rot rot away but I have an
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issue with this I mean because the taxpayers have to pay for that rotting away that's true and so if the guy just
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doesn't want to eat and then go hey let us know when you can't take it anymore I
00:38:32
have been easily swayed to your side Captain but this is a a part of the an interesting part of the story yeah so
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the New Hampshire Supreme Court decides you know what no no no Joel caulk you are not in charge here
00:38:48
buddy because he's saying look I have a constitutional right to die without interference from the
00:38:54
state so they determined that he's mentally competent to make such a decision but they decided that we are going to
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permit the correction fa Correctional Facility to force feed you if you will not
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eat can you imagine you're a correction officer and you have to hold a grown man down and
00:39:21
force food into his face they say hey um I know it's Monday but uh and I but we got to pull you into
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the office cuz we got a mission for you you know that um Joel caul you're going to have to force feed
00:39:39
that son of a [ __ ] well and you know what's what's kind of interesting too some weird psychology here is we know
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that rape is more often about power and control and less about the sex act itself and look at all the women he vict
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victimized that he forced himself on them and here he is now sitting in a cell and they are Force
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feeding him so of course he's not going to like this either and they it sounds to me like they force fed him just
00:40:15
enough to keep him alive it wasn't something like they were like oh we got to give him three meals a day no nothing
00:40:21
like that it was like once every few days they force fed this dude he at some point says look I'm not I don't want to
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go through this routine of being force fed every few days he did lose a whole bunch of
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weight power being taken away from him I saw a picture of him and then one that was taken about a year later and he
00:40:41
looked like a Skeleton version of himself MH and he he agrees that he's going to like
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drink milk and and drink juices and things like that uh so that they won't have to force feed him going forward but
00:40:58
this knucklehead's Antics don't stop there no this is a very violent individual and when we when we criticize
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the justice system for the lack of Justice in the rape cases in the 1970 case and then again in
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1974 unfortunately there were other people that were victimized including our murder victim Nikki Cleveland that
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one could make a very strong AR argument that those people would never have had to experience what they did Niki
00:41:31
Cleveland may still be alive if they had proper sentences for crimes of rape back
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in the early 70s that this guy might have been locked up during that time now what is clear to me is I think
00:41:46
regardless of how long you lock him up when he gets out he's going to go back to committing these crimes and and
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maybe even escalate into more violent crimes like he did with the Cleveland case we had John Douglas who told us
00:42:04
when we talked about prison sentences and the death penalty and things like that we talked to him and he said Nick
00:42:13
Captain the problem with some of these individuals is you cannot rehabilitate a person who has never been habilitated to
00:42:21
begin with I agree and 1987 while serving out his life sentence Joel slashed another inmate this
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inmate's name is Robert Duff slashed him with a razor blade 24 times in the face
00:42:38
arms and back Duff was serving time for five counts of felonius sexual assault so
00:42:46
hard to have any sympathy for Robert Duff that made me that just made me think of remember Celebrity Deathmatch
00:42:53
on MTV when we were kids yes maybe that's what they should do in some of these prisons I don't know just saying well
00:43:00
and and the thing is is if they put it on pay-per-view that we could take the money and instead of taxpayers money
00:43:10
paying for these animals to be fed and I know they're not fed well but GRL I mean yeah it's it's one step
00:43:21
below dog food no wonder he quit eating yeah yeah it's a privilege here's another victim of caulk though as well
00:43:30
because in 1981 a woman placed an ad for a water bed for sale this is in North Carolina
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Jacksonville North Carolina on March 31st a man called her at home around 9:00 a.m. and made an appointment to see
00:43:49
this water bed when he arrived at her home at 10:00 a.m. she took him to the basement to see the the bed frame and
00:43:56
then to a bedroom to see the remainder of the water bed when they're in the bedroom this man turns a gun on her
00:44:06
and threatens her life he tapes her hands behind her back tapes her eyes shut gags her with her
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Underpants and ties her feet together he then rapes her and the then fleas you know robs the house steals
00:44:27
some jewelry and some valuables and splits the victim was able to describe her attacker in detail and was
00:44:34
hypnotized to enhance her recall then she shown a photo lineup that included the image of a man named
00:44:42
Leo Walters who had been arrested in the same jurisdiction for very minor crimes
00:44:49
unrelated minor crimes she identified him she points to him and says that's the guy that attacked me
00:44:57
right blood typing evidence at the time in the rape kit showed that the rapist was typo blood which Leo wers
00:45:10
was that sucks so this man is convicted in 1982 and given two consecutive life sentences while in prison he petitioned
00:45:22
for an updated DNA test of the samples that were taken from the rape now it wasn't until
00:45:33
2003 that sophisticated St Str testing finally excluded Leo Waters he was not the rapist someone else was so all the
00:45:44
charges against Waters was they were dismissed by the district attorney in November of 2003 he was released after
00:45:52
serving 21 years in prison for crime that he did not commit and the St Str sample from the rape kit was finally
00:46:01
entered into cotus in 2005 and it got a hit it comes back to Joel Bill caulk another rape victim and this poor
00:46:11
man Joe Waters serves 21 years in prison for a crime he did not commit yeah I feel awful for him but I also feel awful
00:46:21
for the victim because she thought he was the right guy so then she feels like there's some just
00:46:29
Justice and then when she finds out he's not the right guy it's like she's victimized all over
00:46:36
again and then she probably feels awful that she had a hand in putting this Innocent Man Behind Bars for so long I
00:46:46
mean it's just what what a messy situation Joel Bill caulk remains in Maximum Security
00:46:54
Prison to this day it's not clear when he is scheduled to be released but when he is Maine California
00:47:03
and most likely North Carolina are all vying to be next on the list of states that he gets to visit on his prison tour
00:47:12
cuz he will be locked up for the rest of his life but his crimes were not careful
00:47:18
they weren't well planned he didn't disguise his face and his scheme of pretending to be a legitimate purchaser
00:47:25
chitchat with his intended victims almost ensured that they would get a good look at him before he had the
00:47:32
opportunity to blindfold them he used a gun stolen in one of his crimes to commit murder he made appointments with
00:47:40
his victims from his home phone but what's scary about somebody like Joel caulk is is not his cunning or his level of
00:47:51
planning it's it's that like of Ted Bundy he was very much able to operate comfortably within mainstream Society he
00:48:00
was well-liked even admired by some with no one guessing that he harbored the bad
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guy inside of him who would urge him at any given moment to strike [Music] again want to thank everybody for
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