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thank you foreign [Music] [Music] tragic story about the brutal killing of a 38 year old man that's how a crown
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attorney described the evidence of what a Winnipeg jury will hear for the next several weeks and a warning the details
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are extremely graphic at the trial today the jury heard Robin Green from Shoal Lake was stabbed at 68 times it happened
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on July 1 2003. he was decapitated and his body cut up into eight separate pieces and left in a bathtub in a suite
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in the Royal Albert hotel the crown says the victim's organs were removed and never found
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Sydney tear house Moore is charged with second-degree murder his lawyer Greg Brodsky told the jury they agreed to
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your house more is the killer but says his client doesn't know how the killing took place
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the jury was told that kiras wrote letters to a Canadian journalist and American publisher that picked in The
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Killing itself chair house also explains how he's infatuated with Jeffrey Dahmer the
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American serial killer who cut up his victims Court heard the previous day green materials from a drinks at the
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Woodbine Hotel then went back to tear House's Suite to have sex where green was killed Court was told that tear
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house walked into the rematch Center the following day thinking it was a police station he told the corrections worker
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that he had been drinking that he blacked out and that when he awoke the body was chopped up in his tub back at
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his hotel room the months after the killing at the Royal Albert hotel it appears a man
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charged with the murder wanted to talk about it but was any of it true that's what a Winnipeg jury must decide at the
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Sydney to your house murder trial while in jail tear House Began corresponding with the Winnipeg journalist who at the
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time had a weekly call-in show on a University radio station so Patsy testified that tear house gave him
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details about the murder he couldn't have found out any other way the jury has heard so far that police were not
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able to find the internal organs of the victim the end result was supposed to be a book
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about the murder and upcoming trial called trophy kill a title Court was told that tear house came up with
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he remembers almost everything but not the actual killing Sydney tear house told the jury he blocked out that day in
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July 2003. he says he doesn't know how Robin green ended up mutilated in a hotel suite bathtub but what he does
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remember is meeting up with a victim at the Woodbine Hotel tierhouse describes how the two went on a drinking Bender
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ending up in his suite at the Royal Albert he says he got high on cocaine and oxycontin had sex with green a few times
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and took some nude pictures of the victim eventually the two fell asleep tyros told the jury he woke up about
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seven hours later to a sickening smell in the sweet saying quote I entered the bathroom and looked over to the bathtub
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and he was deceased he was dismembered I threw up into the toilet because of what
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I'd seen tyros then walked to the reman center thinking it was a police station staff called 9-1-1 Taro submitted to
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telling the 9-1-1 operator I think I killed someone while in jail he wrote letters about the killing to a Winnipeg
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writer who promised him a book deal tyros now says the Gory letters were all made up I had no one to talk to I was
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locked up 24 hours a day I guess in a sick way it was entertainment for me tear house testified he got the killing
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details from jail library books true crime stories of serial killers like Jeffrey Dahmer but the crown argued many
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details things like blood splatter match the actual crime scene and her detail only the real killer would know Stacy
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Ashley CTV News Winnipeg the fate of Sydney tour house now rests with a jury they will decide that the man is guilty
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of manslaughter in the death of Robin green or second-degree murder evil that's how the crown describes Sydney
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tear house telling the jury he stabbed and dismembered Robin green the neatly stacked the victim's body parts in the
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bathtub of his hotel room earlier this man was decapitated he was disemboweled he was eviscerated and certainly the
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court will take that into account but to your House's lawyer says it was not a premeditated murder you can't say this
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is the worst possible offense the worst possible offense would be if he lured somebody premeditated the crime and was
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guilty of first-degree murder [Music] thank you shall we dance is an American film
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released back in 2004. the film debuted on October 15 2004. now the story takes place in
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Chicago but the movie was filmed in Winnipeg up in Canada back in 2003. shall we dance is a romantic comedy
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starring Richard Gere Jennifer Lopez Susan Sarandon Stanley Tucci and Nick Cannon among others the film is a remake
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of the 1996 Japanese film of the same name it is not a remake of the 1937 film shall we dance starring Fred Astaire and
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Ginger Rogers the film had a cast full of big names and a budget of 50 million dollars so
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success was really the only expectation once released the film grossed more than
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11 million dollars opening weekend the film ran at the box office for 133 days grossing over 57 million in the
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United States and a worldwide total of over a hundred and seventy million dollars
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but if anyone tuned in today to True Crime garage just to hear about Richard Gere Susan Sarandon or even JLo you're
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in luck actually I'd be shocked stupefied even there is a much bigger story here one that fits well within
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these four walls of our garage Studio a sick and disturbing story there are many
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different versions of this True Crime Story the following timeline may be the closest one that we will ever have to
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the truth in short form this story as you may have guessed takes place in Winnipeg Manitoba Canada population
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about 700 000 people Winnipeg is very much in the South part of Canada somewhat near the U.S border and one of
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this great City's nicknames is the Gateway to the West why well if you look at a map you'll understand
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this case takes place back in 2003. on July 1st this is a Canadian national holiday called Canada Day on this day
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Canadians celebrate the anniversary of July 1st 1867 when three separate colonies became
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one and just like the great U.S of A's Fourth of July this day is celebrated with fireworks parties parades and
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barbecues July 1st 2003 in Winnipeg was a hot summer day 38 year old Robin green
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traveled a few hundred miles to Winnipeg to visit with family and to celebrate and party for the holiday
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on this morning he was making his way to downtown Winnipeg walking he stumbles Upon A group of onlookers this is a
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group of fans hanging near where they are shooting this movie where they are filming the movie these fans are hoping
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to catch a glimpse of some of the famous movie stars there is a decent amount of
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security Personnel in this area now Robert continues on about a block or two north of this location
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he finds several trailers parked side by side here unfortunately there does not seem
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to be much in the way of security personnel Robin excited about this opportunity
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decides to make his way inside of one of these trailers to see what he can find he was looking for any goodies that
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might be lying around so now inside one of these trailers Robin is looking for something valuable
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and inside a cabinet he finds a Ziploc bag containing several pieces of jewelry this he snatches and Stuffs the zip
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block into his pocket Robin exits the trailer and continues walking off he's now heading downtown toward Main Street
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a short time later Susan Sarandon's assistant enters this same trailer the one that Robin has just recently fled
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she notices that one of Susan's earrings is lying on the floor the assistant then reports this to Susan
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and the two do a little investigating and quickly realize that some of Susan's jewelry is missing from the trailer is
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this her actual jewelry or prop jewelry that detail is a bit confusing as it's reported both ways I actually believe it
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to be hers but she did wear some of this jewelry in the filming of the movie right so it makes it a little a little
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difficult there around 10 a.m famous actress Susan Sarandon calls the police this is to report that a bag of jewelry
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was missing from her trailer located on the set of where they are filming the movie shall we dance
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this was a set of gold jewelry a necklace bracelet and one of her earrings remember the other was found on
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the floor of the trailer alerting the assistant that something might be wrong it has been reported too that this was
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costume jewelry which would make it sound or believe that it that it belonged to the studio that was just a
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prop used for the movie a further investigation I found that the the necklace which will be really one of
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the centerpiece items of this week's story the necklace is valued at four thousand
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dollars so probably not just costume jewelry for the movie itself not too much later this
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is around 11 A.M Robin green steps into a bar called the Woodbine this bar opened up earlier that day this
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is an older bar that hosts a hard drinking group of regulars here Robin feels at home so he is drinking and
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chatting with the other patrons there right at this bar is where Robin green meets 33 year old Sydney tyrhuse
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Sydney is an overweight guy who has been at the bar for an hour or so drinking the two do not know each other in fact
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as said Robin is from out of town tier Hughes was raised in Winnipeg but he had been living out of town for about 10
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years Now Syracuse is a recently out of work chef according to tear Hughes Robin is
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chatting with the patrons and flashing this gold jewelry that he he has with him and he's offering the jewelry up for
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sale it's been reported that Robin was attempting to get fifteen dollars for the gold necklace
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Robin doesn't find any takers what he does find is tear Hughes who Sparks up a conversation with him and then the two
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start sharing some drinks now after some drinks tyracuse invites Robin green back to his hotel room this
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is in the early afternoon hours of July 1st the two returned to tier hughes's hotel
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room tier Hughes is staying at the Royal Albert hotel and this hotel is nearby it's within walking distance of the bar
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tear house was renting room number 309. once there the two men continue to drink
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and party this leads to some sexual activity and then later some playful Activity one of the men has one of those
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old disposable cameras so they take some photos ironically tear Hughes takes a photo of
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Robin green sitting in the bathtub after all of this the two would eventually leave the hotel room Robin
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wanted to take a nap but Tyrus wanted to go back to the bar I can only assume that they agreed to go back to the bar
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they did take a walk later according to one of the men they walked down to where
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the shall we dance movie down to the filming location here is my general understanding of the
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filming situation it was fairly early on in the filming process and Susan Sarandon was on set by
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this time for a couple of days or so but it was early enough that Jennifer Lopez
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had not yet arrived into town the two men who again just met hours earlier they walked down to the filming location
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and then they walked back to the bar it does not sound like they stayed for very
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long on this second visit to the bar they did have a drink apparently at one point tier Hughes introduces green to
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the bartender the bartender would later say that she believed that green was quite intoxicated but Tyrus not as much
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but Tyrus wanted to go fetch some ice before returning to the room so he asked the bartender after the introduction was
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made to keep an eye on green which the bartender did Tyrus returned fairly quickly and then
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he escorted green back to the Royal Albert hotel and back to room 309. according to tear Hughes once the two
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were there green eventually fell asleep and tier Hughes blacked out or they both
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blacked out this portion is a bit unclear the next day the morning of July 2nd Sydney Tyrus
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wakes up from a blackout due to drugs and alcohol he gets up and he walks into the
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restroom and there tyr Hughes finds the body of Robin green dead in the restroom
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according to Tyrus he then walks to a nearby building that he assumes is a police department
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when asked you know the standard questions how can I help you or what can we do for you tier Hughes says I need to
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speak with somebody I am staying at a hotel nearby I blacked out last night and when I woke up this morning I found
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a man dead in the bathtub right and at this point we don't know how intoxicated he still is or what drugs he still is on
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or how much he's sobered up and like you said he thinks it's a police department but
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it's not actually a police department it does make sense that he would believe this to be a police building it it is in
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a sense I mean you would see officers entering and exiting this building but it is not he in fact has walked into the
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Winnipeg remand Center which is a pre-trial detention center located in downtown Winnipeg yeah it houses people
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waiting for Court decisions on their charges or placement in correctional centers
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it is a minimum medium and maximum security facility so they have to get someone from the actual police
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department here to talk with this man to make and take his statement well they do
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they dispatch two officers to the remand Center the officers talk with tear Hughes and take his statement in which
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tier use very matter-of-factly explains he spent the day before drinking all day
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and doing drugs he says he met the victim and they went to his room for drinks and for casual sex tyrkuse says
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he eventually passed out from being so intoxicated and then when he woke up and walked into the restroom he found the
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victim dead yeah how did you do it he was asked interior Hughes said he chopped the guy up with what a knife he
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said where is the knife now it's on the floor of the bathroom at my hotel room right this of course triggering further
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investigation starting with Tyrus and three officers going physically going to the Royal Albert
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hotel to room 309 to investigate hotel room is on the third floor of this old hotel
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at the time of our case the hotel was like 90 years old this hotel has an elevator but I don't think
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there was any air conditioning at the hotel and we did say this was in the middle of a hot summer yeah what they
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did find there is truly just like something out of a horror film there was no way for the officers to
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prepare themselves for what they were about to find two officers are going to go into the hotel room to see what's
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going on now an additional officer and tear Hues are going to stay out into the hallway so now they are at the Royal
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Albert hotel standing at the door for room 309. they opened the door and walk in the room is small and the room is a
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mess the first thing they notice is a blood soaked bed sheet lying on the floor and a blood-soaked mattress as
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well there was a good amount of blood on two of the walls in this small room they walk into the restroom and they're
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lying in the bathtub positioned as though he is looking in the direction of the doorway
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is the nude dissected body of 38 year old Robin green Robin is lying on his back inside of
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this old clawfoot bathtub Robin's mouth was wide open and one of his eyes was missing the other had been
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stabbed or punctured his head decapitated but placed neatly back onto the body the chest had several
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deep stab wounds and a figure eight pattern was carved into the chest area as well
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there was also a long cut running from the neck area straight down the center of the chest
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this wound was a big one and was open and exposing an empty abdomen the organs had been removed the arms had been cut
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clean through cut just below the elbows the legs too cut clean all the way through just below the knees the body
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was sewn in half at the waist all in all the victim is now in eight pieces put back together inside the
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bathtub [Music] all right cheers mates and a big cheers to everybody 100 million downloads that's a lot of people
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great veterans all right so we have a situation where we have a guy that's in from out of town and he's snooping
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around on a movie set and he's looking for something of value yeah he's he's straight up
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looking to steal something right so he gets some jewelry goes to a local bar thinks hey this is worth something I'm
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going to ask 15 right doesn't get that but strikes up a conversation this guy now they're drinking together
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possibly doing drugs together decide to go back to the guy's room that's living in town seems like he's living in this
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hotel room 309 correct sex happens and it seems like murder happens and then the next day
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tyr Hughes which was renting the room 309 goes to Correction Facility and tells them hey I think I murdered
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this guy they send police officers there again we don't know how intoxicated he is or or what his state is at this point
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but as police officers you're probably thinking is this you know they they hear crazy stories all the time
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is this guy for real you know we have to check this out now can you imagine what
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they're feeling as they're escorting this individual back to his hotel room and once they open the door you have to
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start thinking well at least that part of the story is correct and and that part of the story is truthful that he's
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at least staying there yeah I mean there's a lot of issues with this portion of the story and one that's why
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we said early on this might be the closest version to the truth in short form regarding the timeline right that
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we're going to get and the reason being is we have two key players in this timeline unfortunately only one of them
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is still alive and appears to be very guilty of some heinous horrible acts right and they're the ones that are
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providing us with the timeline so as said as you said we don't know the State of Mind of Sydney tier Hughes or how
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intoxicated or screwed up effed up he could be from drugs or alcohol or both or whatever
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right at the moment that he's telling the police about this we also don't know what his state was leading up to this
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and and during the course of the murder of this man and then the really what he's doing here what has
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been done is somebody creates this it's it's sickening to say it this way it's almost
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horror artwork by Design I mean it truly that's what it is we have a victim here
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that was killed mutilated and then displayed displayed for somebody to see this and as said these are veteran
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police officers in Winnipeg Winnipeg is not look shout out to our Canadian brothers
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and sisters but anybody up in Canada will tell you Winnipeg is not the nicest city in the world it's it's it's nice
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but it I believe it's the murder capital of Canada so these officers have seen a
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lot in their days what they have not seen is this they've never seen anything like this before
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I don't know that many many people have [ __ ] I don't know that anybody has yeah
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and I think like you said I mean it's it's very odd it's almost a Pizza artwork and a sense and I don't
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mean that in a disrespectful way but you have an individual that was cut up and eight pieces and almost put back
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together and like you said is uh position in a way that they're looking at the door but the head is severed so
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at some point they have to start moving the body to realize that these parts are
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severed and what I find very interesting is that you have a situation where the bodies in eight pieces that there's
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a figure eight almost like maybe those are connected in some way uh it's it's very strange and
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and very um horrifying yeah and I I hate to use the word artwork because that that certainly
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holds no meaning here but anybody that's seen the the TV series Hannibal will understand I mean that's what they
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were trying to depict in that dramatization of fictional crimes this is something that happened in real life
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right then you also have a situation like I said we we have this individual confessing to this crime I mean he
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basically you know you know explains to him how you did it well how did you do it with this knife and then they
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find the knife and and so you you almost have the confession there but he's also stating that he you know
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they blacked out or passed out and as far as like my knowledge goes like I have friends that will drink certain
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things or maybe take certain things that will cause them to black out and be in a
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blackout state I have only been in one blackout State and you were actually with me on a
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Carnival Cruise when I called a bingo on the 311 Cruise uh there's a bunch of pictures with me
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with some somewhat famous people that people started sending to me when we got back from the cruise and I was like oh
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that's a funny Photoshop picture and they're like no no you actually met that person and I took your picture and I
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have no memory of that at all but as far as I know that's the only time in my life that I've ever been in this
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quote-unquote blacked out phase where I'm actually walking around and talking to people and
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and acting like I exist in this world and reality I don't remember any of that yeah and that's the weird thing about
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tear uses if you want to call that a confession when he's reporting this crime you're almost getting two stories
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immediately where he's saying I blacked out I don't remember the murder but but when asked questions how did you kill
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him like I chopped him up I used a knife the knife is on the bathroom floor I guess those are all
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things he could have learned from just walking into the bathroom that morning and finding the body that he left there
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the day before when you said there was no air conditioning and I heard that when Tyrus went into the bathroom and
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saw this scene that he actually got sick and threw up in the toilet so uh yeah it's just it's crazy and then
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it's crazy to think that this person would be in a blacked out State and be able to do all that and
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again chop up the body and put it back together and then display it in such a way
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after seeing this incredibly horrifying scene the officers went back into the hallway
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and this is when they formally arrest Sydney tier Hughes they put tear Hues in handcuffs the officers these are as said
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seasoned veterans and that doesn't matter they are rattled very badly by the sight of this body
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in eight pieces then reassembled put on display the cause of death was multiple stab wounds and they're in room 309 the
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crime scene texts when they're going through this whole scene they find Susan Sarandon's stolen jewelry that was
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reported as stolen the day before right now one of the key players in this case is going to be a man that most of you
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listening may know we have discussed him on this show several times in fact he was a guest on the show back when we
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covered the Luca Magnotta case in episodes 122 and 123. AKA puka not hotter and of
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course we are talking about Dan zupanski you know Captain sometimes things happen
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for a reason sometimes things in life really just kind of happen because they I feel like they're supposed to right
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when Dan zupanski became involved in this case in Sydney tyrus's case in a way the case almost chose him
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Dan was keeping an eye on this case in particular and for good reason he was involved with an organization called the
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peoples for justice Dan was clipping news articles about the tier use case early on the papers were
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calling tier Hughes the hotel room killer and there were headlines such as I'm not a monster I am not Jeffrey
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Dahmer the peoples for justice is basically an organization that is probably fighting
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and lobbying for a lot of things uh Victim Advocacy type things but one thing that they are truly fighting for is
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stiffer penalties and sentences for murders the general problem here is that murderers do not receive a lengthy
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enough of a sentence and most of what would be determined to be first degree murder in our country
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most of these types of crimes get reduced to simple manslaughter charges in Canada
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resulting in the offender receiving a shorter sentence for taking someone's life Dan has been corresponding
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with a man who he went to high school with the man was housed at the reman center
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waiting for a court date one day this man his name is Dawn he tells Dan guess who I'm I'm being housed with I'm being
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housed with the hotel room killer Sydney Tyrus one of just many strange and bizarre
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things about Tyrus in this case zupanski said tyracuse facing murder charges waiting for a
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court date in this situation would have been strongly advised to not discuss the
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case with anyone especially the media tier Uso seemed to enjoy the attention and he was granting
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interviews almost immediately after his arrest Dan asked Dawn if he could work to build some type of
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rapport with tear Hughes get to your Hues to believe that they may even be friends and see if he could get tier
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Hughes to talk with Dan at the time had a radio show called off the cuff it was an interview Style Show
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covering all kinds of topics well in this case has to be huge on a couple levels one the gruesome nature of the
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crime but two the connection with this big movie star in this big movie Set yes it is it would have been bigger news and
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this is coming from several Canadians perspectives this would have been bigger news had it occurred in a city like
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Toronto or Vancouver right but not so CD well yeah and the thing is to put it in
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its simplest form the way it's been explained to me is unless a crime or a murder happens in
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one of those two cities it's just not well covered through the media it doesn't get the amount of media
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attention that it would Garner and those other those bigger cities right the simplest
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introduction from dawn to get tier Hughes to talk with Dan zupanski would just be to see if tier Hughes would like
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to be a possible guest on Dan's radio show this is the tactic that they're going to
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use because they already know at this point that tier Hughes seems to be enjoying these interviews and is more
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than willing to talk with the media well Ray and when he's talking to the media I
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think he's also trying to get more attention by making statements like I'm not a
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monster yes this act that I did was monstrous but I'm not a monster I'm not Jeffrey Dahmer and and when you
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in a crime case you mentioned the word or the name Jeffrey Dahmer that's going to get more attention well when this
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gets set up Dawn does get tear used to agree to talk with Dan zupanski this leads to Dan
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corresponding with tear use and then taking a meeting with him Sydney tier Hughes his defense and
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believe it or not it's a viable one in Canada in 2003 2004 and so on at the time
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his defense basically is yes he did Kill Robin green but it was not premeditated
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murder because tear Hughes had been using drugs and was intoxicated he didn't remember the act itself and he
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eventually turned himself in this making a strong argument for a charge of manslaughter not murder right strong
00:36:56
argument there not not here that wouldn't work here this would come with a pretty light sentence if someone like
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tyracuse can get this horrible murder reduced to just a manslaughter charge and this in particular is what Dan
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zupansky and his friends with that organization peoples for justice one of the things that they were fighting for
00:37:21
one this is one of their big ticket items that they're fighting for so a maximum penalty for what we what the
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United States would call first degree murder the planned targeted Act of homicide in Canada the maximum one could
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receive there is no death penalty the harshest punishment is life in prison with possible parole at 25 years
00:37:46
wow yeah I mean some of our states have the death penalty it's like honey we're going to take a vacation to Canada and
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others that don't at least have life in prison without the possibility of parole
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that's not even an option this is life in Parisian in prison with parole at 25 years
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meaning you're going to get a parole hearing yeah that's I mean that's ridiculous I
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mean and there's multiple crimes here like here we do a thing where you go okay well it's premeditated so it's first
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degree murder but then also you have the mutilation of of the corpse charges to that
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so possible parole after 25 years this is the strictest punishment one could be handed at the time in Canada
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and that's across the board that's from C to shining sea the Canadian Federal government's Bill c-53 life means life
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act would change this by making life imprisonment without parole a mandatory sentence for heinous murders such as
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planned and deliberate murders of police officers or planned and deliberate murders while the accused is committing
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sexual assault hostage taking or terrorism right so they could be charged with first-degree murder with no
00:39:13
possibility of Pearl the adjustment to that basically would be the lifers could eventually apply after 35 years to the
00:39:23
federal cabinet for executive release this bill c-53 would be a good step in the right direction I know there was a
00:39:32
lot going on with attempting to make this life means life act active last year I was you know not living in Canada
00:39:41
I was unable to confirm if in fact it is up and running by this time it doesn't actually appear to be so though so first
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we have the issue of some monsters like Tyrus getting paroled after 25 years that sounds bad enough right but it
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doesn't stop there when going to court we are going to have a few other very threatening options that could play out
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here first off if his defense can prove that tear Hughes was drunk High messed up basically out of his element right
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blacked out well then this would play to a reduction of what would be a murder charge to a much lesser charge of just
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manslaughter also of course reducing the sentence to top all of that off they have something called double time
00:40:33
and I believe that's the proper term for it that's the term that would make sense
00:40:39
right okay so double time served for jail time while waiting for your trial plus they have concurrent sentences
00:40:47
instead of consecutive meaning if you're going to get 25 years for killing one person
00:40:54
well then if you killed three people you would get 25 years for each of those three people you killed for a total of
00:41:01
75 years right but because you have concurrent sentences you can serve out all of those sentences at the same time
00:41:10
so truly only really spending 25 years in prison that is horseshit so basically it doesn't matter if I kill one person
00:41:19
or two people you'd think like you know as far as like serial killers go you let's say you killed five people and
00:41:26
then you go well okay so we're gonna have you um charge and these were all premeditated so you get first degree
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murder so each one carries a 25-year sentence but you can serve all those sentences at the same time
00:41:43
the best example that I could offer up on the fly right here would be Robert Picton so Robert Picton is a Canadian
00:41:51
who is convicted of six murders I believe it's six murders he suspected of many more right convicted of multiple
00:41:59
murders receives 25 years for each one of those murders he's only going to have to serve 25 years total he doesn't get
00:42:07
you know he's we're not tacking all these together and doing them consecutively which should be 150 years right and
00:42:15
thank God he'd be dead by then but he's a real asshat but there's a lot of names
00:42:21
you could call that uh individuals ass hat is what I'd call them so we talked about the state of the body when
00:42:33
they found it first off without getting too too graphic I think we're already past that well
00:42:40
here's the other I'm trying to go through the whole idea of is Tyrus lying about the fact that he
00:42:48
was that he was drunk and drugged up and out of his element right well we know he's at the bar drinking we do know that
00:42:55
and we could spend a good amount of time going through what has been reported that he was drinking or taking that day
00:43:02
but to be honest with you and we played that clip there it's really all over the shop right the
00:43:09
different reports state that he took or smoked or ingested different things so I
00:43:14
don't think that that's key here to really try to analyze if in fact we believe he was messed up not from that
00:43:20
angle we can do it on the opposite angle and again without trying to get too too
00:43:25
graphic but of course it will have to be somewhat so think about the amount of time
00:43:31
just for a second just stop and think about the amount of time it would take to do all of that
00:43:39
to a body right so just how out of it could this hotel monster be at the time well also what we have in
00:43:49
the states I don't know if it's different in Canada but premeditation you know when you hear that clip from
00:43:55
the lawyer it's like premeditation to them almost seems like he had to plan this when he met him at the bar oh I see
00:44:02
you came into the bar now I met you now I'm planning this all out in my head where we have kind of uh determined in
00:44:12
the United States that premeditation could be your in an argument with somebody heated and decide well I'm
00:44:19
going to go out to my car and get a gun and and within that small window of time
00:44:24
you have now you know basically created a plan meaning there was premeditation correct them am I correct in this no
00:44:33
you're spot on I mean there are situations where within seconds we determined that previous it's a
00:44:41
premeditated murder right and I think unless you can prove I think it would be more on the on the defense to prove that
00:44:49
this uh monster you know this boner face is was in a state of you know being blacked out or a
00:45:01
drug-induced um psychosis state or something like that but think about the cuts too
00:45:07
not just all of the time that it would take to do that to a body the yeah the cuts themselves this is not easy to do
00:45:16
not only is it a lengthy amount of time it's not an easy task to do this would take some level of skill tyracuse was a
00:45:26
chef for a long time that would help but this would take a lot of time and some skill to perform this act if tier use
00:45:34
was truly as out of it as he claims to have been this would have been even sloppier and the labor involved
00:45:43
a drunken High man would have gave up at some point before doing so much post-mortem mutilation to the body right
00:45:53
I think the premeditation there's not only just premeditation on the murder but I think there was premeditation on
00:46:01
how I'm going to eventually get out of this you know and what what's my excuse going to be also I don't think that we
00:46:08
have said this but all of the organs were removed these were never recovered so that in itself is some evidence that
00:46:20
a portion of this story is missing from this narrative that Sydney tyrcus is putting forth about the actual murder
00:46:29
yeah I don't mean to be more gruesome than we already are but you know I would do
00:46:38
a little bit of you know Furniture rehab or or you know take an old piece of furniture and and redo it repaint it
00:46:47
or whatever and just you take like a simple dining room table to saw the leg there had to be individuals in this
00:46:58
hotel that he's renting these rooms that heard these noises happening that heard something and that
00:47:06
would give us a little bit more of a timeline because like you said I mean just the dissection of the body
00:47:12
I think they're prob probably be ways to prove that it took over an hour and one and then when did that go
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towards the evidence that this was all premeditated according to tear Hughes Robin green died at 6 20 P.M
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