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November 16, 2023 / 52:17

This episode discusses the death of 19-year-old Durante Martin, who was found dead in a home in Fredericktown, Missouri, with a gunshot wound to the head. Key topics include the findings of two autopsies, the investigation by local authorities, and the family's concerns regarding the circumstances surrounding his death.

Durante Martin's family commissioned a second autopsy conducted by Dr. Jane Turner, a forensic pathologist. Her findings indicated that the gunshot wound was not consistent with suicide, as there were no signs of a contact wound, suggesting that the gun was fired from a distance of two to three feet.

The initial investigation by the Madison County Sheriff's Department ruled the death a suicide based on preliminary evidence. However, the family and community members expressed skepticism, leading to protests and calls for a more thorough investigation.

Witness statements and the timeline of events leading up to Durante's death remain unclear, raising questions about the involvement of others present at the scene. The episode highlights the family's frustration with law enforcement's communication and handling of the case.

Throughout the discussion, the hosts emphasize the importance of transparency and accountability in the investigation, as well as the impact of racial dynamics in the community surrounding this case.

TLDR

The episode covers the controversial death of Durante Martin, questioning the suicide ruling and highlighting discrepancies in the investigation.

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[Music] [Music] % [Music] on April 23rd 2021 19-year-old Durante Martin left his
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home in the company of some of his friends from high school and what ends up happening Captain is in the morning
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hours in the we hours of the night a 911 call explaining that this young man has
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shot himself killed himself in someone's attic and that is the home of James Wade
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and we brought up all the questions and a lot of the rumors concerning this case
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and a lot of those questions are from the general public we were able to present some of our own and may have
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some more as we continue to go through this investigation Durante Martin's Family commissioned a private autopsy
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this is a second autopsy because they're not happy with the findings from the first that somehow included without
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providing any information or details that the young man killed himself they took it upon themselves to
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commission a private autopsy this would be conducted by Dr Jane Turner who is a seasoned noons forensic pathologist who
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spent years with the St Louis medical examiner office she has more than 21 years experience conducting these types
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of autopsies her autopsy found that Durante was shot in the left temple now this alone does not indicate suicide
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some have pointed out that Dante was right-handed and that it would be more likely that he would be shot in the
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right Temple if he shot himself but he broke his right wrist just weeks before his death and had to have surgery to
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repair this injury at the time of his death his right arm was in a cast so it makes sense that he would
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more easily hold a gun to his left temple if in fact that's what happened and pull the trigger rather than his
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right Temple but Dr Turner's report said quote there are no findings on my examination of a contact gunshot wound
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or a near contact gunshot wound or a near gunshot wound or close or even intermediate okay that's a lot of jargon
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there a lot of words to basically say that her findings are that he was not shot at close range and if one was going
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to shoot themselves they have to do so at Short at close range unless you have those really stretchy arms and legs like
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that guy in the comic Stretch Armstrong this entrance wound is what would be called in forensic pathology a distant
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entrance wound the end of the gun would have had to have been this is per the doctor would have had to have been 2 or
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3 ft or more away from Durante she explained that with a contact gunshot wound you'll see an imprint of the
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muzzle on the skin and here she did not see that and apparently there was no evidence on durante's skin that the gun
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was fired at close range either now per KSDK we're going to dive into this a little bit more so we all have a great
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understanding of why the first autopsy could be wrong and this could also mean that witness
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statements provided to the police are wrong as well again we don't have those to review we don't know if anybody was
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saying they were in the room with this young man when the gun went off but per KSDK a self-inflicted gunshot wound
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leaves behind several key indicators an imprint of the muzzle of the gun if it's
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held directly against against the skin held slightly further away soot from the muzzle flash of a gun will land on the
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skin held slightly further than that and stippling or the deposition of the gun to the skin where the powder abids or
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scrapes the surface of the skin leaves little punctures or red marks Dante Martin had none of those things present
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on his person one thing that Dr Turner did not mention in the news report about the second
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autopsy was whether she found any GSR any gunshot residue on durante's left hand or either hand for that matter if
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the gun was really fired from as far away as Dr Turner postulates then he could not have shot himself but GSR on
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his hands might call that finding into question when we got to point out something here about GSR gunshot residue
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it doesn't always mean that the person that if you find gunshot residue on someone it does not always mean that
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they fired a gun it just means they were in the presence of a gun being fired they're in the proximity but again
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inside of the hand or outside of the hand to me would make a big difference yes of course and it should it would
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back up what the Sheriff's Department's findings were or at least what they concluded so it's kind of kind of sad
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that we don't have the information right and of course if he didn't have any gunshot residue on either hand then that
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backs up what the family believes right so it it gets it gets a little dicey when it comes to gunshot residue but
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what does not seem to be dicey to me is we have two quote unquote experts in their field and they're reaching two
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different determinations two they two different conclusions unless this other person that performed
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the original autopsy believes that somehow Dante held the gun three feet from him and was able to shoot
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himself which I don't know how that works again we know nothing about the gun too why not know if what kind of gun
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it is because if if this were shotgun or a rifle that puts into question a whole
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lot of different things rather than if it's a small easily you know a small handgun armed with the second autopsy
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report Captain Dante's mother Erica raised some of her questions to Deputy Adams the one that she was told to speak
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with and again we have some of the transcripts from their conversation here we have Deputy Adams who says the
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initial report was an apparent suicide that is not the final conclusion what you posted it on your Facebook page
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doesn't that seem a little irresponsible as an irresponsible person myself I can
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easily site other people who are irresponsible are they ever going to give the final conclusion well we're
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going to get into that and this is a even more Bizarro answer uh Erica then says to Deputy Adams because if that's
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the case you shouldn't have even said it was suicide because you know why because
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you didn't even have the information she's basically saying what you and I are saying captain if you're telling us
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now that's not the final conclusion why did you even bother to say it in the first place yeah everybody wants to seem
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so smart right we need to teach humans that it's okay to question things it's okay to not have all the answers it's
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that is that is the smarter approach it's better to come out and say we don't have all the evidence so we can't make a
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comment instead of just going well well well we think it's suicide and now you have to backpedal on everything that you
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have said CSN said teach the children well and I think that's just what you said my friend Erica that boy is good
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then called the sheriff's back Sheri the sheriff office back and demanded to know
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why she wrote that Durante died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound in the April 29th press release and here's from
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the transcript Sheriff McCutchen I didn't put that it was a suicide I put that preliminary evidence and then she's cut
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off by Erica who says What preliminary evidence right we we're not presented with what that is in her statement and
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the sheriff replies the evidence that we got at the scene ma'am again this keeps
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this keeps leading me to believe that this must be eyewitness statements right or earwitness statements people that
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were in the home at the time that this went down people that were still there let's let's
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talk about that people that were still there after Emergency Services were called how many people ducked out of
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that place before someone agreed okay now it's okay to call 911 because from the 911 call
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itself it sounds to me when he's asked James Wade now maybe he doesn't know because it sounds like he may not know
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or he's putting it on for the call but maybe he doesn't know maybe it is as he said he just went upstairs after hearing
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it and doesn't know if the the person on the ground is on the floor is breathing
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or not because he asked someone in the background but the response later is the the operator is being told no he's not
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breathing is there a chance that whatever happened happened went down and somebody
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decided to wait until he was not breathing to make that call right people get the opportunity to duck out of that
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place before and anyone with a badge can show up Erica questions the sheriff what was
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the preliminary evidence and of course the sheriff says I can't give you that ma'am it's still under investigation
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well again your office You released you made the press release stating that this
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was a self-inflicted gunshot wound yet behind the scenes you were telling the family of
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Dante that it's a still it's still an open investigation which is it that doesn't make any sense so round and
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round in circles we go as for the official Coroner's report on duron's manner of death coroner fallis told the
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local NBC channel that he was waiting for the talks the toxicology report before
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deciding whether it was a suicide or a homicide it's not really clear to us how the toxicology report would clear things
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up unless it shows that Dante was drugged somehow an article on KSDK website made reference to their being
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alcohol at the party as we saw earlier Carrie Wade denied that there was alcohol others say that there was but
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she did not deny that drugs were involved one of the more persistent rumors on Facebook is that Durante was
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given meth at the party perhaps by someone on the inner circle of The Wades or someone in the Wade Clan themselves
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and and he freaked out so let me make sure I'm following this correctly they're at this party or gathering or
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whatever the hell you want to call it cuz nobody knows nobody's coming forward and like you said there's some people
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online saying hey I was there but they need to start naming names we need to know everybody that was there and and so
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he takes some drugs or was given some drugs that's one of the rumors that maybe in fact it was a self-inflicted
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gunshot wound that was the result of him being given drugs right meth and going into some kind of psychosis from one of
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the Ws they don't specifically say James Wade there there are some rumors that specifically say James Wade but most of
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them say one of The Wades and but then how did he get the gun did he freak again that's a a good
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question here here bring a good question we're going to feed this guy a bunch of
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drugs enough to send him into cois and hand him a gun and then tell him to go play in the
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addict I mean if that is the case you're still responsible for the death for the
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sake of for the sake of his mother can't you as as the sheriff at least say you're asked directly by her about the
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gun can you at least just say who owned the gun or even you know what I would be
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I would prefer an honest answer of I don't know we don't know who owned the gun other than we can't tell you that
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ma'am it's still an open investigation uh well then why the F did you post on your Facebook page that my
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son shot himself when every time I ask you a question I'm being told you don't have an answer for me or you do know the
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answer but cannot tell me because it's an open investigation well this family shouldn't be reading anything about the
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case that they don't already that they already haven't had a conversation with the sheriff
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department that called doing your job we're going to contact them we're going to talk to them about our findings then
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we're going to take our findings and put them on Facebook here's the other thing
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Captain we have the original coroner well the the coroner who performed the original
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autopsy saying well we haven't made a final conclusion won't have our final answer until we receive the toxicology
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report Dante died in in late April we really should have a toxicology report done by now allowing if the if it really
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is necessary allowing the coroner to finalize his report and make a definitive ruling on the cause and
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manner of this young man's death well so what's what's taking so long in fairness
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to the the sheriff's department they probably already have it they're just trying to find a way to um change it and
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alter to fit their narrative I will throw something in favor of the sheriff's department here I don't want
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to lay it on too thick one way or the other especially when we do have facts to present that show some due diligence
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on their behalf and this is that the Missouri State Highway Patrol was asked to review mad Madison County's
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investigation of this case so Dante's family of course was disappointed to learn that on May 21st the Missouri
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State Highway Patrol they concurred with the initial findings of suicide so again then show the family
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the evidence EXA you're exactly right captain and it's it's and and what you said is is they agreed with their
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initial findings which the sheriff is saying well yeah we have some initial findings
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but we're not done I can app why are you even bringing somebody to check out your
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initial findings wait till the all the findings are out there and then bring somebody into double check I mean it's
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it's it's beyond ridiculous and look would this happen if this supposed suicide was one of Mr racist
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Wade's kids would there be a thorough investigation if it was one of them well and I can
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appreciate the Sheriff's Department allowing another agency to take a look yeah at that I I do and you know I
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recommend that in cases that even seem to be open and shut cases there's nothing wrong with if you got everything
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right with another agency taking a look at at something and sometimes more eyes on something can only help a situation
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racial Justice Advocates have been outraged by what they perceive to be as a hush hush investigation of Dante's
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death this has been led by activist Reverend darl gray of St Louis but there was about 100 demonstrators that
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recently staged a protest March in Frederick toown Reverend gray told amp. IB times.com that during the protest
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counter-protesters hurled two noes at the demonstrators and chanted racal slurs at them so it's easy to see how
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tensions could boil over in this this case and then we have to factor in we touched on it a little bit earlier but
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to dive into it a little bit more here Captain this area of Missouri Frederick Town it has known KKK activity and
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reportedly you know if that's going on then there's there's a portion of the population that's that's racist actively
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racist there it also has a big meth trade these things are terrible by themselves let alone put together and on
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top of that it's always been rumored that maybe this big meth trade going on in this area is controlled by white
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nationalists who do not like Outsiders basically what I'm laying down here is from an outsider looking in this appears
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to me to be an area that is dangerous for people of different backgrounds now even in the year 2020 black lives matter
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protests were met with white counter protesters carrying no's en chanting KKK beliefs and for anybody in that general
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area the or the the the great state of Missouri if you want to challenge me on this you can you're you're from there
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you would know better than me but I back up some of my statements with this statement that this area of Missouri was
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also home to Frank anona a Missouri coup Klux clan leader shot to death by his wife in
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20177 Frank anona proudly held the title of Imperial wizard of the traditionalist
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American Knights of the KKK based in Park Hills Missouri so if you want to tell me that this is not a clan
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hotbed I'm going to have a hard time believing you back to the Madison County Sheriff's Facebook page sense this
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situation we have people on there that are angrily calling for Sheriff McCutchen to resign and demanding
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answers in the Durante Martin investigation so far there has been nothing but Silence from the sheriff
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since the April 29th post about the shooting in the preliminary determination of
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back but I'm leaving I'll finish this episode by myself look we try not to be in the
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business of spreading rumors about the cases that we cover we always and I think any longtime listener of this show
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knows how it goes down here in the garage we 100% prefer to address the known facts of a case and perhaps offer
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a little bit of our own thoughts and theories based off of those facts along the way here in this Dante Martin death
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investigation we are missing so many of the facts that this has been a very difficult task and there are also so
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many rumors look some of this stuff I feel like when there's this many rumors some
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of them have to be true or there's some truth in them somewhere along the way mhm so there are so many rumors about
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the involvement of James Wade and or a cover up that it's it's hard to know really what's true and what's not true
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and we don't have any Authority clearing that up for us in this Durante Martin case but we have seen people's comments
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posted on the Madison County Sheriff's Facebook page to the effect that there is indeed some type of coverup going on
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there are allegations from more than one person online that when the police showed up at this
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scene in James Wade's atct it had already been cleaned we mentioned that possibility
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earlier along the way when we were discussing what little known facts are in this case did somebody wait a little
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long to call 911 did they make sure that whoever they didn't want talking to the police
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couldn't did they make sure whoever was responsible or set this guy up had an opportunity to leave right so they
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wouldn't get tripped up they wouldn't get caught in saying statements that contradicted statements of other
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individuals at the house that night and Durante was found in a tiny closet that's another rumor again we
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don't know about the gun we don't know the specifics about the attic but the one of the strong rumors out there is
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that Dante was found in a tiny closet and that lots of people were at this party and no more than what they are
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saying of course well it's just so disappointing we're in 2021 and yes we've come a long way but
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when is it just going to become it's it is the human race like it is one entity like where losing the race yeah it's
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like when when are we going to just come together and just just knock it off it's
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like yeah there there are some culture different cultural differences here and there but we're still the human race One
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race so we mentioned earlier that there was a possible second suicide that took place on this property um and that's per
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James Wade's words uh in response to something so that seems to be somewhat backed up I'm not going to say I I don't
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think that would be fair to sit here in our garage and say 100% that that's true
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so I throw out this call to action because I spent a lot of time trying to figure out if this could in fact be true
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because often where there's smoke there's fire and if you were to tell me that two people committed suicide on
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this man's property in recent years well then I would say they smoke and I would want to
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know more about it so the information I could find is this is that a u a man named Nick
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Lowry died in 2014 and that's about as much as I could find I couldn't find any type of news
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coverage or news information on this I'm throwing that name and that year out there as a kind of call to action to
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people in the garage joining us in the garage this week that if you are from that area or if you know anything or
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could find out anything thing in regards to this other potential incident let us
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know fill us in fill in everybody on the blog on our blog on true Crim garage.com and again it's one of those
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things where this little piece of information could be something could could be something huge again if there's
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smoke often there is fire and I want to know how that investigation went down again if there's being drugs passed
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around that are ORS you know could cause psychosis and that is the reason why this other suicide took place again
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whoever's dealing out these drugs and whoever's around these people are now responsible for their murders those to
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me they're not suicide but it's not self-inflicted if that makes any sense and this is also a big warning to
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everyone and a good reminder to everyone don't ingest things that are made by people you don't know right who knows
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what the heck's in them don't be buying stuff on the street and putting it into your body because you're not in control
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of what happens after you drop that thing MH KSDK who we have referenced multiple times throughout these two
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episodes here in the garage has done Gang Busters work on this story on covering this True Crime Story and I
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think that they've really done a great job of presenting it in a fair manner now one thing we've said some pretty
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negative stuff about James Wade along the way but one thing I will give him credit for where we have a sheriff's
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department who is not saying anything at least he doesn't duck the cameras and he
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does do interviews and answerers some questions when presented with questions about this case so to give everybody a
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little bit of uh taste and feel for what KSDK has done on this case we'll provide
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you with the following clip where you will hear Dante's football coach start off the clip and tell us some good
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things about this young man but along the way you will also hear suspicions by family and friends and you will hear
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from James Wade himself uh he was really good he he you know he played defensive
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line for us and Durante Martin loved his team you know he's always happy and good
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you know the kids are always putting smiles on the kids' face that's that's what I remember the most about him the
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19-year-old graduated last year from Central High School in Park Hills where Friday Night Lights burn bright Cory
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schweiss was his coach you know we won a couple conference championships with him
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uh anchoring that defensive line and uh he had some really good buddies on the team durante's cousin Isaiah Johnson was
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one of them he was great he was aggressive he was very athletic for his size I mean he could do a lot of things
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that other big boys like him couldn't do durante's family said he was hoping to play college ball now he'll never get
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the chance Dante was found dead in this home in Frederick Town last month with a
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gunshot wound to his head investigators initially ruled it a suicide those who knew him find it hard to believe we all
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right there's no way Dante committed suicide there's just no way I'm just not going to accept that two days before he
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died Dante's mother said friends picked him up in St Louis he told her he was going to see his grandmother in park
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Hills he never came to my house and that's the last time I heard from him Coach schweiss saw him just weeks ago
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and had a conversation that makes his loss that much more of a mystery he was happy he you know the big old smile on
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his face so um you know uh asked him how everything was going he said great he was having a good time the IT team has
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been looking into the death of Dante Martin for weeks the 911 calls and the shocking results of an independent
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autopsy tonight at 10: for the IT team Christine buers five on your side there's a mystery growing in
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Madison County Missouri where investigators initially thought Durante Martin took his own life the
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19-year-old's family says though it does not add up and now there's new information that supports their claim
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tonight the man who called 911 and an expert who believes Dante was shot from a distance are talking only to the my
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team's Christine Myers he had the biggest brightest smile you know just a smile that would just
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warm you up do what you're memories of her grandson quickly bring tears it hurts my heart to know
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that somebody hurt my grandson and possibly because of the color of his skin investigators say
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Kimberly Robinson's grandson Durante Martin died by Suicide she's not so sure Dante was found dead in this Frederick
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Town Home last month in the weeks that followed social media swirled with theories and accusations that the
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homeowner James Wade had something to do with it or knew more than he was letting
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on I know I didn't do it and I tried to help him but nobody's talking about that
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you know they're just making up all this other stuff they got me being everything
00:33:50
from a racist serial killer to uh big time Med dealer and you know I'm neither Wade said he got home from a
00:34:00
day of fishing about 30 minutes before he heard the shot and I was downstairs and I you know he just shot himself and
00:34:10
I called 911 to try to help him Madison County 911 uh yes I need to apparently a guy just
00:34:20
shot ha this initially this was an open and closed case 4 days after d Mon's death the Madison County Missouri
00:34:28
sheriff's department announced preliminary evidence revealed the male subject died from a self-inflicted
00:34:34
gunshot wound to the Head Weeks Later the IT team asked for an update on the case from Sheriff Katie McCutchen in a
00:34:40
statement she wrote the investigation is still ongoing do you believe this was a
00:34:46
self-inflicted gunshot wound there are no findings on my examination of a contact gunshot wound durante's family
00:34:54
hired forensic pathologist Dr Jane Turner to perform a second autopsy after years with the St Louis medical
00:35:01
examiner's office she's now in private practice the contact uh gunshot wound you'll see an outline of the
00:35:10
muzzle of the gun an imprint of the muzzle of the gun on the skin I didn't see those the end of the gun would have
00:35:18
been 2 or 3 feet or more away this entrance wound is what would be called in forensic pathology as a
00:35:27
entrance it's the only answers Dante's mother has been given since his death I can't stop crying so I try not to
00:35:34
cry so and then like I tell myself don't cry don't cry don't cry if this was you
00:35:40
and this was your kid then we wouldn't be having this discussion cuz it would be it wouldn't be a race thing can you
00:35:47
understand the family's position in this I can understand how they feel I'd be angry too if I was hearing 25 stories
00:35:54
I'm just not involved in it and I was the cops would hurry up and make that clear to people I mean and
00:36:03
as they lay Dante to rest his family and friends have so many questions and so few answers the true meaning of a friend
00:36:11
he was that to many somebody was not a friend to him we tried to speak with the teenagers
00:36:24
who were there the night Dante died so far none of them have gotten back to us to learn more about Dr Turner's autopsy
00:36:31
findings visit this story at ksdk.com for the IT team Christine buers five on your side and again like you said I
00:36:40
mean Mr Wade wants us to uh applaud him for calling 911 we not applaud you for that but at least he is uh
00:36:51
communicating with anybody that's asking him questions it seems like he's at least trying to be an open book about
00:37:00
all of this which makes me more likely to believe his story that he came into the house heard a gunshot and then
00:37:09
called 911 and maybe he doesn't have all the information of what actually went down
00:37:17
exactly that's certainly a possibility here if we do believe him if we are to take what he's saying and say hey we
00:37:26
think he's being truthful here then he was not in the room when this went down and may simply not know or not have all
00:37:34
the answers himself this is really a tricky case and a lot of it is because there is reason to be suspicious but
00:37:45
also there's no real hardcore information to lead us in the right direction so we ourselves can come to
00:37:53
the correct conclusion not a hasty conclusion like what the sheriff's department came up with or at least what
00:37:59
they announced on their Facebook page and with the press release one thing that really stood out
00:38:06
to me in that news clip there was was interesting one to hear James Wade hear his voice other than the 911 call and
00:38:16
hear him answer some of the tough questions you know because in the 911 call there is no there are no tough
00:38:24
questions if he's innocent and doesn't know what happened then there are no tough questions he's simply observing
00:38:31
and telling and passing along what he's observed in in maybe truly trying to get
00:38:38
this young man Durante some help but one thing that I found interesting beyond that in the news clip there is the
00:38:46
little tidbit about the news team seems to know the persons that were at that home that night and saying that hey
00:38:57
we've reached out to these people and they've not responded to us none of them have provided statements to us none of
00:39:03
them have taken our questions none of them have done interviews and what's very interesting about that Captain that
00:39:11
which of course we were suspicious of to begin with you know we believe I don't I
00:39:16
shouldn't speak for both of us but I believe that there was some type of party or gathering there that night yeah
00:39:24
and so to me that tells me that more than just Durante Martin and one of James Wade's daughters or his daughter
00:39:33
there at the home that night that there were other people there and I'm basing this off of that little nugget provided
00:39:40
to us by KSDK news that says hey we've contacted these people and they've not responded to us well we clearly hear
00:39:49
them talking to James Wade so he's not on that list of people that haven't responded to them there are other people
00:39:57
and Wade could be the quote unquote spokesperson for the Wade household and I would be fine with that but this is an
00:40:05
indicator to me that there were several other people there that night it's basically a confirmation that that is in
00:40:10
fact what was going on but these people remain silent now is that at the request of law enforcement
00:40:20
or is this at the suggestion of legal counsel that any of these people may have that would be interesting to know
00:40:30
and further it seems like no one has a problem and this is much with what we see in any Community or so in our
00:40:39
society these days where people don't have a problem posting things online making accusations spreading rumors
00:40:47
online but when someone wants to get them on record they're not willing to do so yeah
00:40:54
this one is very tough because I I don't see the motivation for him to commit suicide again unless he was on some kind
00:41:02
of drug that would cause some psychosis if he ingested that drug uh willingly then then he we have to we're
00:41:12
all responsible for our own actions now if somebody gave him that you know put that in a drink or uh told him it was
00:41:21
something else I'll smoke this uh weed and it was you know amphetamine or something like that and a suicide then
00:41:30
took place to me um that's not a suicide it's assisted suicide and and there needs to be people responsible for that
00:41:38
and the big piece of evidence is where you have a COR nurse coming forward and saying look I think he was shot at a
00:41:44
distance two to three uh feet maybe further away mhm it doesn't look like if you look at his house it looks like a
00:41:53
one-story house that they say the attic I think uh the reason why they say that is because
00:42:00
if the majority of your walls are slanted on your upstairs then it's not considered a
00:42:07
twostory so my house for example is considered one in a half story cuz my upstairs is most of the walls are
00:42:17
slanted so yes it looks like there was a a room upstairs now two pieces of evidence one
00:42:25
he was sh at a distance but two we find him in a closet that that that we should
00:42:33
clear up is rumor right that's not anybody's we don't know that for that to be a fact but I think it's very possible
00:42:43
especially at the age of these individuals that it could have been an accident somebody was playing with Mr
00:42:51
Wade's gun or had a gun themselves that they were playing with he he ends up getting shot they then move move him or
00:43:00
leave him wherever and uh place the gun in his hand and and walk away and now everybody same story he committed
00:43:10
suicide I think that's very likely um and again with the cops I would love to just throw them under the
00:43:19
bus completely and say they're giant piles of [ __ ] but I think their major mistake was
00:43:25
coming out and having initial findings just keep your mouth shut until you have more evidence because now
00:43:33
they're backpedaling and they might come to a different a way different conclusion
00:43:41
after more investigation but you already stuck your foot in your mouth with your
00:43:46
initial findings the other thing too when we call people out for being irresponsible or organizations for being
00:43:53
irresponsible I would like I would like a clear explanation on why we don't have
00:43:59
this young man's personal belongings if in fact his family wanted them that should that's their right they should
00:44:06
get his wallet his shoes his clothes anything he had with him when he was found at the Wade house that night you
00:44:13
know usually there's a a chain of custody on these items there should be paperwork on taking this body in and um
00:44:26
housing it and then releasing it to the mortuary somebody dropped the ball I don't know why when protocols and things
00:44:35
are set up where there are supposed to be a paper trail that all of a sudden the paper trail disappears when when
00:44:41
people and actions are called into question so I that seems incredibly irresponsible I know it's something
00:44:48
really small and very kind of generic amongst this larger story but it's always disappointing when you hear
00:44:56
things of that nature I would expect a mortuary to be a responsible entity I would expect a County coroner's office
00:45:06
to be of the utmost responsible of entities and that did not happen in this case for
00:45:18
and we can see that based off of what we know to be true here that those items were in fact lost somewhere somehow now
00:45:26
well also the lack of communication between the sheriff's department and his family you know you it's
00:45:34
disrespectful yeah and amongst other a whole list of other words but uh it's it's it's very disrespectful yeah to the
00:45:44
deceased and to his family and then here's the other big question you know we can sit here and analyze this and put
00:45:52
everything under the microscope as much as we want I applaud his family for doing the due
00:46:00
diligence that they could with getting this second autopsy I think that was a a a um move
00:46:09
of Genius of Brilliance on their behalf I would like to know more about the phone I'm hoping that they're they're
00:46:16
sending off the phone to get its own autopsy uh so to speak the thing the really big question I have here you know
00:46:24
when we question all these things why was he in the Attic why was he at this home to begin with who did he go with
00:46:29
other than this name Zach we don't really have any other names or information that seem to pop up was this
00:46:35
violent offender present at the party how many people were there what was actually going on that night we can sit
00:46:43
and we can kick through that as much as we want yeah or what kind of drugs were being taken if there were drugs at all
00:46:50
and the the biggest thing that we don't need to kick through that we know to be true that is a huge question mark and it
00:47:00
and points toward something other than what we're being told happened is Dante's cell
00:47:07
phone when it's returned to his mother Erica she says that his calls are gone his text are gone the phone was scrubbed
00:47:18
clean why why if everything that happened that we're being told by the witnesses because again that's that's
00:47:26
the only way that the sheriff's department can get their preliminary evidence right that must be what they're
00:47:33
referring to is preliminary evidence the witness statements so if everything were
00:47:38
being told by the witnesses is in fact true and it was so true that the sheriff's department
00:47:46
bought it and sold it on their Facebook page and if everything The Wades are saying are true and if everything the
00:47:53
coroner the original autopsy findings are true that this young man killed himself then there is no reason at all
00:48:02
that his phone should have been scrubbed I have no I cannot believe for a second
00:48:07
refuse to do so that this young man wiped his phone clean and then killed himself it just doesn't make any sense
00:48:15
no it doesn't pass the sniff test oh the old sniffer because if there weren't drugs at that
00:48:24
party and if there weren't drugs involved in this incident as it pertains to Durante if there
00:48:31
wasn't a setup on this kid whether it be to jump him beat him up or otherwise there's no need to scrub that
00:48:43
phone like you said that's probably the biggest piece of evidence that makes me go suicide doesn't feel right here again
00:48:51
we're not mental health experts and if if you're dealing with any Mental Health issues please contact the National
00:48:58
Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1 1800273 8255 and of course we are all hoping that very soon that we start to get some
00:49:11
answers in this case in Dante Martin's case answers that are long overdue and very
00:49:19
deserving to his family that they can get the answers that they deserve from the sheriff's department and all of the
00:49:27
agencies that have looked into this case Reverend darl gray and Dante Martin's Family met recently with the Madison
00:49:37
County prosecuting attorney who asked the Missouri attorney general's office to investigate durante's death a
00:49:44
spokesman for the Attorney General declined to comment as to whether the office would in fact get involved so now
00:49:52
all we can do is await the final determination of the Madison County Sheriff's Office investigation into
00:50:00
Dante's death which will hopefully shed some light on the tragic passing of this
00:50:05
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Episode Highlights

  • A Tragic Incident
    On April 23rd, 2021, Durante Martin tragically shot himself, sparking numerous questions and investigations.
    “What ends up happening is a 911 call explaining that this young man has shot himself.”
    @ 02m 20s
    November 16, 2023
  • Conflicting Autopsy Results
    Durante's family commissioned a second autopsy due to dissatisfaction with the first, revealing critical discrepancies.
    “Her autopsy found that Durante was shot in the left temple, which does not indicate suicide.”
    @ 03m 30s
    November 16, 2023
  • Community Outrage
    Activists and community members protested against the perceived mishandling of Durante's investigation, highlighting racial tensions.
    “Racial Justice Advocates have been outraged by what they perceive to be a hush hush investigation.”
    @ 18m 26s
    November 16, 2023
  • Community Response and Rumors
    The investigation into Dante's death is clouded by rumors and allegations of a cover-up.
    “When there's this many rumors, some of them have to be true.”
    @ 24m 51s
    November 16, 2023
  • The Mystery of Dante Martin's Death
    Dante Martin's family questions the circumstances surrounding his death, initially ruled a suicide.
    “There's no way Dante committed suicide; there's just no way.”
    @ 31m 43s
    November 16, 2023
  • A Call for Justice
    Dante's family seeks answers and justice as they question the investigation's integrity.
    “I can't stop crying. It hurts my heart to know that somebody hurt my grandson.”
    @ 33m 14s
    November 16, 2023
  • Dante Martin's Case
    The investigation into Dante Martin's death raises more questions than answers.
    “Suicide doesn't feel right here.”
    @ 48m 47s
    November 16, 2023
  • Seeking Justice
    Reverend Darl Gray and Dante Martin's family push for an investigation into his death.
    “Answers that are long overdue and very deserving to his family.”
    @ 49m 18s
    November 16, 2023

Episode Quotes

  • Your mattress purchase helps give the gift of better sleep to children in need.
    Derontae Martin /// Part 2 /// 506
  • It's okay to question things; it's okay to not have all the answers.
    Derontae Martin /// Part 2 /// 506
  • This area appears to be dangerous for people of different backgrounds.
    Derontae Martin /// Part 2 /// 506
  • I can't stop crying. It hurts my heart to know that somebody hurt my grandson.
    Derontae Martin /// Part 2 /// 506
  • If this was you and this was your kid, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
    Derontae Martin /// Part 2 /// 506
  • It just doesn't make any sense.
    Derontae Martin /// Part 2 /// 506

Key Moments

  • Better Sleep Initiative00:11
  • Second Autopsy03:30
  • Community Protest18:26
  • Investigation Challenges24:41
  • Community Outcry26:43
  • Family's Pain33:14
  • Mental Health Resources48:51
  • Investigation Ongoing49:52

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