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love I don't need oh [Music] Captain we have reached the point of we are at a trial now we're not going to go
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through the whole trial but there were certainly plenty of highlights it's interesting to note that Kyler appeared
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at trial looking clean cut in a dark suit almost appearing respectable and earlier proceedings he was wearing ratty
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clothing long hair and showing off tattoos in piercings well this was a part of the defensive strategy the
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prosecution painted Kyler as a vengeful irrational jealous young man who became lethally violent with women who rejected
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him saying he killed both Jessica and Cara because he could not stand to see them moving on to other men and he
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confessed to six people over the years they said the bodies of the women were found on private property owned by a
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family that KY was very familiar with he had been in a band with one of the family members and had visited their
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Farm often the prosecution presented Cara's case first Rhonda was the first witness talking about Cara and her
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concerns about Kyler how he was abusive and how Cara wrote a poem about being afraid of Kyler which Ronda had found in
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her room after she disappeared Rhonda read it out loud it said I want to go back but we have seen too much bad
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pressing charges on the one I love scared of the person I used to love I'm through she also discussed her
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daughter's protection order against Kyler other Witnesses included friends of carus who testified about her
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volatile relationship with Kyler his possessiveness and the abuse that left visible bruising on Cara and how they
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had counseled her to leave him well in the 5 years or so that we've been doing the show we see this so much and we hear
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about so much abuse in relationships especially men towards women and this should go without saying but real men do
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not abuse women period Then in Jessica's case jimie and other family members testified about Jessica's life and
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Friends testified who saw Jessica leaving that party that night with Kyler photos were shown in court of the burns
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on Kyler face and body and his singed hair when he was found at the Edwards trailer in September of
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2016 again scratches are also visible on his face the prosecution pointed out that Kyler had scratches on his face
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when he was arrested for the car fire and it should be noted that nobody at the party has ever stated that Kyler had
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scratches on his face the day of the party meaning that the scratches came afterwards photos were also shown of the
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contents of a burn barrel that was found on the property of jessup's Uncle the barrel was determined to contain arasol
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cans outside the barrel on the ground Tex found a black cloth a buckle and a black otter phone case the uncle
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testified that Kyler Jessup and Crystal were at his house on the evening of September 9th he says he went inside and
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then the three left when he came out there was a fire burning in one of the barrels so he put it out and also
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testified that his house was burned down in July of 2018 and he knows that his nephew Jessup was responsible for
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burning down his house and listeners will remember that he was in fact arrested for arson of this property
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right Kansas City Police Department Sergeant tence Carter a retired Kansas City Police Department Master detective
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and bomb and arson expert testified about the burns on Kyler and how they likely came from a gasoline flash burn
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such as setting a car Ablaze Melanie Fields Kansas City Police Department crime scene unit supervisor testified
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that the girl's bones were scattered over a wide area she also testified about the photos of Kyler's Burns a
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County Deputy Dustin love testified about arresting Kyler and noticing injuries on Kyler's face and when he
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asked Kyler about these injuries Kyler told him that he ran into a tree it's too bad that tree didn't fall on him and
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crush his skull correct but it's just a lie to cover up for the injuries obviously and here's a portion of this
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story that we really have to we kind of continue along the way of filling it out
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um but what is important to the trial and to whether or not Kyler is actually guilty
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surrounds a lot of this story of Jessup Chrystal and Kyler being together on that night right okay so here we're
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going to have a deputy that will testify about the vehicle stop when he stopped Jessup Kyler and Crystal in that
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vehicle the deputy says that he knew Kyler as they attended elementary school together so he is obviously aware of who
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it is in the vehicle and according to this depuy's testimony he said that Kyler looked
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extremely nervous knees shaking pale in the face and had obviously peed his pants e so the depu is trying to point
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out exactly how nervous Kyler a man that he knew right appeared to him he's physically nervous to the point of pale
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in the face knees shaking and he says obviously peed his pants well and if you get on to law enforcement you're going
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to know all the kids that you grew up with that have become scumbags and are on the other side of the law crime scene
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Tech Matthew Forest testified about processing Jessica's Equinox and the red gas can found inside one potential
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witness this would be Alfred eust the grandfather he could not testify at his grandson Kyler's trial as he passed away
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before the start of the trial but he had been deposed in July of 2019 and the prosecution succeeded in
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having his deposition read at the trial Alfred's son Kenny is Kyler's father Alfred said that on May 4th 2007 he had
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coffee read the paper did some lawn work and then he and his wife Doris went to the nursing home to visit his
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sister-in-law which is Kyler's Aunt this was at 12:45 they stayed until 2:45 went
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home and napped then watched the news Wheel of Fortune in a baseball game before going to bed Kyler wasn't living
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there at that time but came by often right on the fourth he stopped in in the morning sometime between 11: and 11:30
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to get gas from for his truck Alfred and Kyler went to a gas station where he said that Kyler put 8 to 10 gallons of
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gas in then Kyler met them at the nursing home to visit with his aunt around 12:45 stayed for about an hour
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and then left at 1:45 Kyler seemed to be in a normal mood said his grandfather the implication was
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that Kyler's morning was unaccounted for until about 11 something a.m. right we know Cara disappeared after she left
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school at 919 but this is a little more in favor of Kyler right because we have a witness
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who's putting him well accounting for more of his time that day more of his time and also his demeanor yeah as for
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Jessica on September 8th 2016 Kyler was staying with Alfred he said that they awoke at
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6 Alfred dropped Kyler at work at 8 Kyler worked until 4: and Alfred picked him up then he went bowling and didn't
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see Kyler again until September 9th which was a Friday morning both got up around 600 for work and Alfred drove
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Kyler to his job at extreme bumpers but he picked Kyler up around 9 or 10: a.m. Kyler left work early that day and a
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co-worker testified that Kyler had scratches on his face and looked as though he didn't want to be there again
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Kyler's time between when he left the party with Jessica around 11:40 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. when Alfred saw him again is
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unaccounted for well that's a very good testimony because like I said nobody at the party sees him with scratches next
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morning he's at work and co-workers say hey look he's acting strange he doesn't want to be there and he has cuts and
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scrapes on his face well this leads us Captain to Crystal Taylor this is jessup's Widow who testified for the
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prosecution about the incident where she was driving with Jessup and Kyler on the
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day Jessica's car was burned right she said that when the officer pulled them over Kyler started freaking out saying
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and pardon my French because my French is just not very good quote Oh my God someone might just as well [ __ ] kill
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me now she was asked about the timeline on the day Jessica went missing crystal said that Jessup was home on that night
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and everything was normal until the morning of the 9th Kyler called their mother demanding to see Jessup so Jessup
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and Crystal went to Kansas City to meet Kyler at his grandfather's home when they picked him up he seemed
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like he was in a hurry to get out of there this is when they went to jessup's Uncle's house Kyler told Crystal he and
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Jessica had broken up mutually but were still in touch while she was talking to him he
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got a phone call from someone asking if he had seen Jessica because she was now missing and he suggested that the caller
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file a missing person's report Crystal was scared of Kyler at this point she says because she knew he was a suspect
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in Cara's case and now she's learning on the spot this other girl Jessica is missing as well mhm then Jessup and
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Kyler went somewhere on their own for maybe 45 minutes she says she does not know where they went or what they did
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it's probably when they're burning her car when they got back she said that Jessup looked shocked scared and
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uneasy the three of them went to a friend's house at this house Jessup went upstairs and got a gun and slipped it to
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Crystal telling her to hold on to it according to Crystal Kyler did not see this take place and Kyler asked her and
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Jessup to take the batteries out of their phones out of their cell phones and he had already thrown his out so at
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this point they left Kansas City to drive to Edwards Missouri where the plan was to leave Kyler hiding out in a
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trailer and this is when they were pulled over for that erratic driving and Kyler was freaking out well and think
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about this too jessup's not a good guy right he has some problems of his own so whatever he saw or whatever he helped
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Kyler do once they get into a situation where he can get some kind of weapon he gets a
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weapon yep cuz he is now fearful for his safety and his girlfriend's safety or his wife's safety it also kind of points
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out that wherever they disappeared to for that 45 minutes he heard something witnessed something or was told
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something or all of the three that scared the crap out of Jessup and look I'm going to just say I'm
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guessing he saw something maybe he saw Jessica's body because I don't think you'd
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be that physically shaken up just if somebody told you something cuz half the time you wouldn't believe
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him well and then the other move here Captain is as soon as they drop Kyler off at this trailer where he's supposed
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to you know hide out for a while right it's as soon as they get back home from dropping him off that they call police
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and reported Kyler for the murder so as soon as they can get away from this guy who had called them for help they're
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immediately reporting hey something terrible happened here and we're pretty certain that this Kyler guy is all mixed
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up in it and he's responsible for something horrible well and that doesn't mean that they felt bad for whatever
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Kyler did or felt bad for what whoever whatever victim they possibly saw but I think they called the cops because now
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he's a threat to them and so if the cops get him off the street then I don't have to constantly
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be worrying what he might do to stop me from telling anybody what I saw cell phone tracking evidence was presented by
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the prosecution in the form of a map but they did not have specifics on Kyler's movements that day because remember he
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took his battery out of his phone one thing that the jury was specifically charged with deciding whether or not was
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Kyler in Cass County on September 8th between the hours of 11:45 p.m. and September 9th at 6: a.m. the prosecution
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expert also said that J's phone was nowhere nearby at all during that time frame as well Candice
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stclair testified about the episode where Kyler found her packing her bags to leave
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him and he tells her she's not allowed to leave choked her and at some point even confesses that he had killed
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ex-girlfriends out of jealousy to her she said he told her something bad had happened to Cara and he dragged her body
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into the woods and he told her he had gone around Gathering up missing person signs about Cara and then dumped them in
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her parents' yard she said she didn't go to police because she was terrified of Kyler oh yeah cuz this guy is a freaking
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psychopath and on top of that you should be able to smell him coming cuz he he reeks a pee Nick yeets a former roommate
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testified that Kyler once told him that he killed Cara because she would not love him and he didn't want anyone else
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to have her now on the stand he also made reference to Kyler raping an ex-girlfriend but the defense cut him
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off and his comment was stricken from the record this leads us to Caitlyn Ferris this is an interesting little
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portion of our story here Captain Caitlyn dated Kyler in high school now before she moved to North Carol Carolina
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when she got married she told the police twice in early 2011 that Kyler had confessed to her about killing
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Cara she testified about wearing a wire at the request of the FBI and trying to get Kyler to confess on tape right the
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feds had approached her and asked her to help them out because she was still in touch with Kyler at that time the FBI
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actually paid for her to fly to Missouri and try to entrap Kyler on recorded audio they hoped that since he had
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already confessed to her previously that he would do so again so Caitlyn was given a recording device hidden in a key
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fob and reached out to Kyler some of the recording was played for the jury in it
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Kyler tells her he is going to kill himself because every girl he has ever loved has left him he cries and says he
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is always alone and that he has killed someone Caitlyn says he will feel better now that he has told her then Caitlyn
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suggests that the two drive to a wooded area to play Ouija like Ouiji board yeah
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they want to do like a summons or a sance sance and try to talk to car's Spirit yeah they played that audio and
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video at the trial because it's almost like she set up her cell phone like in between the two of them while they're
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driving and you could see him like turning his head and talking to her and and at one point he's like biting her
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lip and not letting her lip go and it's very strange and then he's constantly you know she's going well what would you
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say to Cara and he keeps saying well Cara please don't hate me yeah at one point Kyler can be heard
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saying dear Cara I'm really sorry love Kyler the jury also heard Kyler referring to their Excursion
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as the death spot of the girlfriend I killed later Kyler is heard saying on the audio tape that he had killed her
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and I dumped her in the woods Kyler also talks about what he's going to do with his
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inheritance mind you from his grandfather who was still alive at the time of the recording yeah dirt bads so
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given what this guy suspected of man is that disturbing to hear him talking about not all these not just all these
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things with Cara and her spirit and what he did with her but oh what I'm going to
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do with my inheritance from my grandfather who's still alive through this whole thing there are portions
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where Kyler is telling cin that he loves her that she's the only one for him and
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so on the state presented a recording of two jailhouse phone calls Kyler made to
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his mother his mom says that she loves and supports him but Kyler tells her that he dragged Jessica into the
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woods because of her and that she was never there for him so this is just one of many
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confessions this time to Jessica's murder yeah it seems like he confessed to anybody that would listen to him
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anybody that's willing to spend more than 5 minutes with this guy he's going to start telling you that he killed
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somebody this time he's telling his mother as he's sitting in jail waiting to go to trial hey I I I dragged Jessica
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into the woods because of you mom because you were never there for me well partly that's probably true he probably
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has some Early Childhood trauma and he's probably has some abandonment issues and
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so if a girl leaves him he doesn't know how to deal with that as an adult as a as a human so therefore I have to take
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this individual's life so they can't leave me yeah and the interesting thing here too Captain just looking at my
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notes this must have been this conversation between Kyler and his mother must have been after he was
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arrested for setting Jessica's vehicle on fire before her body was found because he blames whatever he did to
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Jessica on his mother to which his mom responds you know she's pleading with him
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to you know you need to tell people where Jessica is right and so he then hangs up on on his mother never
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revealing the location of Jessica or exactly what he did we have Megan rion's uh this is
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Jessica's little sister she testified that she was so devastated after the loss of her sister that she wanted to
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end her own life and it sounds like she almost did so instead it's some point she decided to do what Jessica would
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want her to do she says so she graduated with honors from school Amy Clark the friend who reported
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car missing testified that two weeks before car went missing car showed up at her house distressed about Kyler she was
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trying to leave him Kyler called and called her phone she says maybe 20 times that day until Cara finally agreed to
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meet with him uh she left for a bit and came back to Amy with a swollen lip and choke
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marks on her throat of course this controlling douchebag afterwards has to then just keep calling her and harassing
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her well the prosecution is going to argue that okay we have these bones that we found the remains of the two young
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women unfortunately there were only about 50 bones of each were found the prosecution's going to say
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that the remains were consistent with Strang ation and they've shown time and time again with all these witnesses that
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this was consistent with Kyler's treatment of other women women who survived on the flip side of all of that
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Captain the defense Kyler's defense mounted a vigorous defense they alleged that the police suffered from tunnel
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vision and focused on Kyler when others such as Jessup were equally viable suspects and were never investigated
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well of course that's what they giant pile of dog [ __ ] is going to do he refuses to accept responsibility for his
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actions and so he throws everybody else under the bus hey go look at these other
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guys that they were seeing Oh by the way go look at my half brother he's a person
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of interest yeah his defense tried to poke holes in the case the evidence and the methodologies used by the state they
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said that there was Zero physical evidence linking Kyler to the crimes they portrayed Kyler as a lost little
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kid a talented artist a goofball someone nonthreatening and misunderstood they also said that Kyler
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had aliis and could not have killed either Jessica or Cara in quite a few instances the defense Witnesses
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testified only in front of the judge in an offer of proof these Witnesses were not heard by the jury because the judge
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refused to allow them to test an open court and then the defense tried to raise suspicions about jessup's
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silly willies you Wily sillies we're back so I mean think about this his defense
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you know first of all we know he calls Jessup his half brother to come help him now we don't know exactly what Jessup
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helped him do we we don't know if Jessup was involved in burning the car we know
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he possibly was there but there was something that startled Jessup and that's what I believe it was a body uh
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the movement of a body or something like that something startled Jessup that's why he told his wife here's a you know
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that's why at that well the defense pointed out that it took Jessup 6 hours after dropping Kyler off at the trailer
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to call police so they wanted to present the obvious question of well what was Jessup doing during that time and the
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defense pointed out that Jessup was the one who started the fire at Paul's house
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you know they wanted to imply that maybe he was destroying some kind of evidence
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they also question why Crystal and Jessup got married in 2017 this after 15 years together was it so that she could
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not be forced to testify against Jessup they emphasized that police didn't find anything of evidentiary value in the
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burn barrel at Paul's what they did find was aerosol cans and their expert argued
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that Kyler could have gotten the burns on his face and hands from burning those cans and having them explode this is a
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alternative to him burning himself setting Jessica's vehicle on fire right the defense focused on the fact that no
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one had proven when or how Cara died an attempt by them to introduce a witness who would testify to rumors that she had
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OD Deed on meth this was rejected by the judge the defense also focused on a long
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brown hair found near Jessica's remains Jessica's hair was blonde again the implication was that someone else was at
00:29:20
the crime scene the defense tried to imply that Kyler could not have killed Jessica based on the timeline based on
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phone records Kyler was home from 2: a.m. to 2:46 a.m. but Jessica's phone was pinging at 300 a.m. in Belton Kyler
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was home at this time so he could not have killed her is what they were claiming further they tried to introduce
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evidence that Jessica was a pothead and had been smoking pot at the party yet no
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THC was found in her brain matter mhm this meant that she had not died soon after the party as THC needs time to
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pass through the system so they're pointing out that she must have died much later so anyone could have killed
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her not Kyler or maybe not just Kyler right the defense points out that the wiretap girl Caitlyn moved in with Kyler
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after that saying that clearly she was not scared of him also they suggested that the two were role playing on the
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audio but that's great I mean that's a great defense because it's absolutely insane that you would move in with
00:30:30
somebody after that tape recording of basically a confession exactly because what they're saying is their role
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playing in this audio Kyler went along with her because he thought she would put out if he pretended to have killed
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someone because he says that she told him it turned her on they implied that she was that she tried to use sex to
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entrap him and he played along with it so he could get some e Deborah hefin who lived two blocks from Belton High School
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in May of 2007 testified for the defense about something not heard by the public
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before she said that on May 4th the day Cara disappeared she saw a teenage girl walking down the street around 11:30 or
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12: noon then the girl was crying and distraught on the phone with someone suddenly a dark sedan with four people
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inside approached her and Deborah heard a blood curdling scream she did not know
00:31:31
Cara but recognized her quote 3 years later when she saw a news report on the case and said I knew it was her this was
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her testimony across the state cast out on her recall well of course it's three years later this is one of those don't
00:31:48
you hate when you see one of these at trial some some lady that saw something that that stood out in her mind and
00:31:54
stuck in her mind for so long because it was terrifying oh the sedan pulls up and
00:32:00
four people inside approach this girl that she didn't know and then the girl's gone right she hears a
00:32:07
scream but doesn't do anything about it on that day and it's not until three years later when she sees a news report
00:32:16
on on car's case and says oh my goodness that's the girl I saw three years ago it
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it's just casting doubt here at trial on something that you just you have to question every sentence in her statement
00:32:32
this isn't a strong witness to me and I I don't even know if I would have necessarily called her well if you're
00:32:39
the defense you're calling her but yeah you're right it's it's one of those ones
00:32:42
that I think just kind of muddles the waters a little bit MH you know really gets muddies the waters a little bit
00:32:50
here and gets things more confusing than they than they certainly need to be now
00:32:54
one thing that we shouldn't call into question is this next expert witness the for the defense it's a forensic
00:33:02
anthropologist who took the stand and said you know the prosecution is trying to paint the picture that Kyler
00:33:10
strangled both of these victims and then dumped their bodies however at the crime scene investigators
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failed to locate the victim's hyoid bones so they couldn't really be sure about strangulation which obviously that
00:33:25
argument goes in 's favor yeah yeah and really what you're pointing out here captain and I think that we need to
00:33:33
really hit home is the defense is going to not just kind of poke holes in some of the states case but a a large part of
00:33:43
their defense is focused around nobody being able to prove that Kyler was where they thought he was during the times
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that he's committing these crimes right and eventually this is going to to lead to the defendant himself taking the
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stand and you pointed out off mik earlier what an interesting turn of events where earlier the defense is
00:34:06
saying this guy's not even competent to stand trial and now later he's taking the stand in his own defense well and
00:34:14
again that's look you're you're trying to start off the argument by going oh he's incompetent to stand trial but now
00:34:23
because he's such a psychopath a sociopath he's such a good liar he comes off as believable he might be even
00:34:33
Charming to some people again like you said he comes into court with disheveled clothes and now he's all dappered up I
00:34:43
mean this is just a it's a [ __ ] defense and we're going to put him on the stand knowing that he's just lying
00:34:49
through his teeth yeah and it's interesting because he gets up there and he he's calm and he's kind of soft
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spoken at times now under direct from his attorney he said that he did not kill either Cara or Jessica saying I
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don't know exactly what happened to Cara I didn't do anything to either of them and he says that the families had been
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hounding him over the years but that didn't mean that he did it he didn't do it instead he said that his dead
00:35:19
stepbrother Jessup was involved yeah and both murders that his his half brother Jessup is a serial killer I wonder while
00:35:35
Kyle while Kyler was on the stand if he was wedding himself Mr Pee PE pants yeah he said
00:35:45
that on May 4th 2007 so we're going back to the the car case here and this is again Kyler's words on the stand he says
00:35:54
on May 4th 2007 he was at his grandfather's house for a time and then went to practice with his band then and
00:36:02
this is a big departure from what he had been saying since 2007 he said that he and Jessup went to pick Cara up from
00:36:10
Belton High School on May 4th the three of them hung out at his apartment and tried to score some weed then Kyler left
00:36:19
to go visit his aunt at the nursing home and Jessup was going to go to a state park with Cara so here's a little recap
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from that testimony on the witness stand Kyler admitted to lying to police on multiple occasions over the last 14
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years about being with Cara on the day of her disappearance right he said he lied because he didn't want to get in
00:36:44
trouble because car had a protection order against him at the time Kyler also claimed his half brother Jessup Carter
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was driving the pickup truck when he picked up Cara at belon High School Kyler testified he went back to his home
00:36:59
with Cara and Jessup and then tried to get some marijuana from a friend he then claimed he left Cara and Jessup to go to
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that friend's house and then on to Kansas City to see his great aunt at a rehab facility so all this time he's
00:37:15
stuck to one story about not seeing her that day at all the day in question for 14 years and then all of a sudden while
00:37:24
he's on the stand trying to save his own but he throws his dead half brother under the bus saying the last time I
00:37:33
actually saw her we did hang out that day yeah but I left her with with Jessup and when I came back I don't know what
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happened yeah and the prosecution's going to say hey are you the most unlucky man ever to walk the face of the
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Earth two girls that you dated went missing they're both last seen with you you have abusive violent past with both
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of the girls and you then confess to hundreds of people and tell people that you're responsible for the murders but
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now you're saying that your half brother is a serial killer and decides to just kill girls that you dated or girls that
00:38:15
just recently broke up with you you must be the most unlucky man to ever walk this Earth yeah his response was anyone
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who has a brother who is a serial killer is unlucky which is such a [ __ ] answer cuz the No No the two girls you
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dated are the most unlucky people in the world if your half brother is a is a serial killer that just happens to kill
00:38:38
his half brother's girlfriends well that's his story in car's case but he says that the night that Jessica
00:38:44
disappeared in 2016 that Jessica drove him home because he was super drunk that seems believable right based off of what
00:38:52
we heard from the witnesses at the party and Jessup was in the car as well how he
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magically got there I don't know the next thing he says he remembers is that he woke up at his grandfather's house
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the next day again implying that he's too drunk to have done anything to Jessica and last time he saw
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her she's fine and in the company of Jessup yeah doesn't explain the scratches on your face Jessup scratched
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your face well he goes on to say that um Jessup killed himself because Kyler then
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pled not guilty in the killing of the two girls meaning that Jessup may not have killed himself
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had Kyler just plad guilty taking the blame and then it was only after he decided to plead not
00:39:41
guilty that Jessup felt that he had to kill himself yeah this guy's a liar liar pee pants on fire and then all those
00:39:49
people that he told or at least that testified that he had told them that he had killed one of the girls or both of
00:39:57
them or had done something leaving one of them or both of them in the woods he on the stand just fat flat out denies
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having confessed to anyone about what he had done so all those people are just making it up all those people are lying
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you're the only one telling the truth and on top of that you're the only one with ped fill pants everybody else their
00:40:20
pants are clean they're Mr Clean pants that's right well you're not buying it Captain I'm not buying it and the jury
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didn't buy it either because on April 15th this after 15 hours of deliberation they found Kyler guilty of voluntary
00:40:36
manslaughter in Cara's case and second degree murder in Jessica's case which showed that he killed her with intent
00:40:44
the family was permitted to give Victim Impact statements prior to the jury's sentencing recommendation Cara's mom
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talked about how Cara had planned to go into the medical field and she was a loving Trust in girl whose disappearance
00:40:58
ripped the family apart and started a 10-year nightmare she told the jury that she did not feel the manslaughter
00:41:05
conviction was enough I agree Carr's stepfather told the jury that Rhonda had been paying Cara's phone bill
00:41:14
for the entire 14 years since she vanished in case they needed the number for her case right they had called the
00:41:23
phone often just to hear Cara on the voicemail then we have Jessica's mother jimie runions said it's been the longest
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4 years and 7 months of my entire life her daughter who was kind to everyone and loved music and dancing was taken
00:41:40
from them far too soon she said that one of her other daughters tried to take her
00:41:45
own life since Jessica's murder her ex John Jessica's father said he would never get to walk Jessica down the aisle
00:41:54
and her younger sisters would never get to see her grow as a role model for them
00:42:00
the jury recommended life for the murder and 15 years for the manslaughter after
00:42:07
the verdict Ronda and jimie addressed the media saying we are thankful to be where we are today because there were
00:42:16
days when we didn't know if our girls would ever be found right and we're just so thankful that they were found and we
00:42:25
have them back but this is also because they didn't give up the mothers didn't give up the mothers leading the charge
00:42:33
having the community not give up I think that's why you keep that people talking
00:42:39
about it that's why he confessed to so many people because people were continuing to talk about it because he
00:42:45
was a suspect for 9 years and the community wouldn't let that go which kept that on his that kept that on
00:42:54
Kyler's mind and on his conscience and then he had to tell people about it to try to feel better about the bad stuff
00:43:04
he did that's really interesting captain and I agree with that 100% uh the judge
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sentenced Kyler to the max which was 15 years for the voluntary manslaughter and
00:43:13
life imprisonment for the second degree murder in Missouri look this is this is an ongoing issue and we're not going to
00:43:22
solve it in the garage here today but often times life does not mean life in Missouri a life sentence is capped at 30
00:43:30
years prisoners who serve about 85% of the sentence become eligible for parole the sentences will run
00:43:39
consecutively but Kyler will also receive credit for some time served which was about four years at that point
00:43:46
so he could be out in about 34 years Kyler rejected the opportunity to say anything in court before the sentencing
00:43:55
which is iron IC as you pointed out how he confessed to so many people along the
00:44:01
way this is the one time that he chose to keep his mouth shut and again you have to wonder if he had simply kept his
00:44:11
mouth shut to begin with between 2007 and 2016 we didn't have much physical evidence in this case right there's a
00:44:19
possibility he would not be in prison today so we should be thankful that he couldn't stop talking
00:44:27
in June of this year Kyler filed his appeal for his conviction as is his right he will see that process through
00:44:35
as he rots in a Corrections Facility in Missouri well hopefully he serves the full amount of the term and hopefully he
00:44:44
gets a little prison Justice and hopefully there's some people that find him to be annoying and don't like his
00:44:51
stupid face and and maybe gets so scared that he wets himself and so people take out some anger on this
00:45:00
douche but also maybe when he's up for parole they won't parole him Keith Todd remember he's the mushroom hunter who
00:45:11
found the girls yeah he later told kshb.com that he has a daughter who is Jessica's age he said I was honored that
00:45:22
I was able to help bring this to a closure I mean for a family to go 10 years without knowing where your child
00:45:29
is is just heart-wrenching and with Jessica 7 months is like an eternity I am just grateful that the good Lord and
00:45:37
these girls led me to the remains that day now before we wrap up here this week Captain I want to use a quote from an
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article from earlier this year Robert D Keele PhD is a man that we have spoke of
00:45:53
several times on this show throughout the year years Robert Keel was instrumental in the investigations and
00:46:00
capture of Ted Bundy the Green River Killer Gary Ridgeway and the Atlanta child killer Wayne Williams he also the
00:46:08
author of many brilliant true crime books sadly Dr Keele passed away a few months ago but there was something he
00:46:17
said in an interview years ago that was in this recent article as well that very
00:46:23
much pertains to this week's casee and it said Robert Keele says there are more serial killers than people think
00:46:32
everyone knows the famous ones that the newspaper headlines cover nobody knows all the rest all the rest are more
00:46:41
dangerous there are more of those out there that kill two three or four people thank you for all of your incredible
00:46:48
work Mr Keele rest in peace I don't want I don't want your I [Music] don't thank you so much for joining us
00:47:15
here in the garage if you have thoughts and opinions on this case please go to True Crime garage.com and comment on the
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blog section Colonel do we have recommended reading for the listeners this week why yes we do here Captain uh
00:47:30
this week we're recommending deviant the Shocking True Story of the original Psycho by Harold sheer driven to commit
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gruesome and bizarre acts beyond all imagination Ed G remains one of the most deranged Minds in the annals of American
00:47:46
homicide this is his story recounted in fascinating and chilling detail by Harold sheer one of the most acclaimed
00:47:54
True Crime Story tellers of our time and hey friend of the show we had him on as
00:47:59
a guest on our other great show off the Record so check out deviate the Shocking
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True Story of the original Psycho by Harold Sher you can find that great title and many others on our recommended
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