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of 2018 officials from five different law enforcement agencies held a town meeting
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this is where they publicly acknowledged that they had no Theory no suspect or no
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answers regarding the murder of Tristan bodet that same month The Hollywood Reporter stated that quote two sources
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with connections to the Malibu Lost Hills sheriff station tell The Hollywood Reporter that detectives are working to
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assemble a physical composite of the Tristan bodette shooter and are compiling a list of Persons of Interest
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this of course is news to everyone news that the LA Sheriff's Department had anything to go on at
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all it seems perhaps that the sheriff's department started to put some things together here is a weird thing a really
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weird thing in my opinion we have not only these strange weird shootings going on in the area
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that have been going on for two years now there's also been an uptick and burglaries on October 9th
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2018 the sheriff's department issued an official update on recent burglaries in the unincorporated calabasis Malibu
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areas it read on Tuesday October 9th 2018 at approximately 3 a.m. a burglary occurred at the Agora calabases
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Community Center located at the 27,000 block of Malibu Hills Road in Calabasas detectives believe that the
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same suspect who is possibly involved in eight other burglaries used a rock to break the front glass door a vending
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machine inside the location was broken into with a rock and numerous food items were stolen the suspect then walked away
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in an unknown Direction Major Crimes detectives along with other department resources are at the location today
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conducting a follow-up investigation the most recent burglaries have occurred over a 3 month period the
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suspect is described as a male adult slender build and wearing dark clothing there were eight other recent burglaries
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that were laid out in this press release we won't go through all of them as there
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it's quite a boring portion of the story but I'll give you the dates there were two in October of
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2018 there were two in September of 2018 one in July of 2018 and then we had one in March of 2017 and then two in
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October of 2016 none of these break-ins involved residents they were all professional
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buildings and commercial structures police stated that they felt that the burglaries were all connected but why
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did the police feel the need to issue a press release about some minor burglaries well probably because there's
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a bunch of shootings that they didn't tell the public about so since they got a bunch of backlash on that they
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probably thought we need to come clean about these break-ins well yeah and people were starting to wonder could the
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there be a suspected connection could law enforcement be thinking that there's a connection between the burglaries and
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the shootings yeah so speaking to the media Sheriff Jim McDonald said investigators weren't yet ready to link
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the two together he said but we won't rule anything out he said but it would be premature to connect these cases
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nonetheless the media had already jumped to this conclusion that the hunt for the
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burglary suspect and the hunt for the shooter were in fact one and the same articles and TV news stories appearing
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during the first week of October 2018 reported a massive that massive searches were being conducted by the Los
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Angeles shareff Department in Malibu County a dozen officers on ATVs and they're like decked
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out in tactical gear they were riding through the park aided by helicopters and blood hounds they were pulling out
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all of the stops for this vending machine robber who stole Doritos yeah it's pretty pathetic when you think
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about the lack of attention and the lack of effort that they gave to m m Richardson it emerged that indeed the
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Los Angeles sheriff's department wanted to question the arm burglar about Tristan's murder there appeared to be
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two reasons for law enforcement's interest in this thief one was that a surveillance footage that was found from
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the September 30th Breakin at Malibu Valley Farms Construction office showed that the burglar who stole nothing
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nothing but food again was dressed in tactical gear was wearing a headlamp and a mask and was carrying a rifle the
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burglary location was less than a quarter of a mile from the campground where Tristan bodette was killed the
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other reason is that a park maintenance worker reported talking to a man who quote fit the description of the Armed
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burglar it's not clear whether this man was actually carrying a weapon when he approached Ed the park worker but
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apparently the man asked for a ride out of the canyon he wanted to go to a different area a mile or so south of the
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campground and he says this is because there's so many police in the area the worker refused to drive this man
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anywhere and actually his report the worker's report triggered these these big time searches that we're now seeing
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right so even where we have quote we haven't linked it to bod's killing but we certainly haven't ruled it out
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Sergeant Matthew Dunn saying but Dunn went on to say that the suspect meaning the shooting suspect the murder suspect
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might be a transient living in the park it seems that in each of these burglaries we should point out all these
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occurred between 2: am and 5:00 a.m. roughly this is the same time frame as most of the shootings yeah it's almost
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like they're sleeping during the day and doing their crimes at night and it turns
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out that the sheriff's department had suspected this transient actually for some time and even knew the name of the
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man that they were looking for on October 10th 2018 repeated law enforcement searches
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of the Malibu Hills area paid off police got their man on the 10th in a press conference held at the sheriff's
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department they described the arrest as earlier today at approximately 1000 hours Major Crimes Personnel Lost Hills
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Sheriff's Station Personnel members of the sheriff's department members of the Malibu search and rescue team deployed
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resources in the Malibu Canyon area to conduct a detailed search for the suspect and for evidence related to the
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crimes the plan included a coordinated comprehensive search of a vast area located in the heart of Malibu Canyon
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after several hours investigators observed fresh bootprints in the ground leading up to a Steep Ravine
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approximately a mile North of muholland Highway and West of Los Virginia Road with the assistance of air support
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detectives followed the bootprints approximately 50 yard shortly after they heard movement amongst the brush follow
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followed by observing an adult male wearing black clothing walking quickly who resembled the suspect in the
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burglaries right air support confirmed the individual's location and it was learned that he was armed with a rifle
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investigators contained the suspect in a heavy brush area and ordered him to drop
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the rifle and surrender after a few tense moments of communicating with the suspect he opted to surrender and was
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taken into custody without incident at 3:20 p.m. it turned out that detectives identified Anthony roada age 42 by name
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several months before but had not been able to find him right in fact NBC Los Angeles reported that quote a variety of
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law enforcement sources told NBC News in July that Anthony rowata was also wanted
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for questioning in the shooting death of camper Tristan bodette it seems that the sources the
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the new sources for NBC this was stating that law enforcement was looking for a Drifter who had a criminal record in
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Texas and Florida and who was thought to be living in the Malibu Hills area as a
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transient the video showing a suspect resembling Anthony armed with a rifle robbing the vending machine solidify law
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enforcement suspicions this wasn't revealed until later but detectives compared the security video with
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Firearms catalog photos and confirmed that the rifle visible in the video was a 9mm carbine a weapon capable of firing
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the same caliber bullet that killed Tristan bodette so who is this guy well Anthony
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Rada was born on July 30th 1976 in Tampa Florida he moved around a lot and is known to have lived in Texas Maryland
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and another of another of other different locations in California it's not really known what
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his family life was like or really anything about his early life but according to a LinkedIn profile he has
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stated he's an artist and a musician at Crazy Horse on LinkedIn he wrote crazy right right quote I am on my third
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musical project and release my first two albums are on iTunes Google Play Etc apologize his typing is a little weird
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on there I try to make unique songs with strong content letting the lyrics do most of the work I have been sketching
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and writing most of my life I have never been able to dedicate enough time though
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he also lists his employment as a sketch artist or portraits at Tony's final touch his
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skills are listed as right draw rap he has made references to service in the Army but I couldn't confirm if he
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had actually served in the Army there seems to be some thought that he did but could be the story he's making up in
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his head right right with you know this this guy is a piece of work um it's tough to it's tough to believe a lot of
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what he says uhhuh well I mean first of all anybody that's a musician is a little untrustworthy I'm
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joking cuckoo is what I was going to say they're a little bit of wackadoos so if that was not enough like someone
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on on web sluth managed to find an ebook supposedly written by this man this guy's proficient you know it's available
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online the publication information for the book states that it is 6,000 words over 6,000 words and was published on
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April 9th in 2018 it cost 99 cents to download the title is the luciferian theory it's categorized under philosophy
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about good and evil a short description of the book says this is a short writing
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in which the author tries to use the Book of Genesis and other documents to prove the story of
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creation really gives clue to a secret knowledge that has been passed down through ancient times to the present and
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how the chosen select have used this knowledge for money and power now we featured some of the bizarre
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highlights in the trailer to this case right so this guy's a a writer he a mus we're going to say musician did
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we hear any of his music I didn't hear any of the music he claims that he's a rapper he CLA well so he claims that his
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first two have been released on iTunes and Google play um I I don't know what those would be or cuz it doesn't say
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what the title would be correct correct this is what I was able to pull from what a great job promo in yourself
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whacka do but also he says he's a a sketch artist right what was the well his skills are listed as right draw rap
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right okay so with the whole rap thing there's a you know the the rap world as far as conspiracy theories go
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it's heavily drenched and the Illuminati and so that's what it seems like his book is about people using these
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oldtime um secret powers to get money and fame and power well yeah and and I'm look I'm not
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going to claim to have read the book I didn't want to bother with it um I didn't want to pay for it I didn't want
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anything to do with it other than I found it's only 99 Cents right but I found some some portions of it online
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and that's what we used for the telling of this case but I didn't want to give money to somebody
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that I mean I I don't know what this I certainly have my beliefs about what this man has done and I'm not
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giving him a penny so after his arrest a family member of his told LA's KABC 7 it's a news channel
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that Anthony had lived in Malibu Hills for 10 years saying he doesn't talk to people he is a loner
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when asked if they believed that if Anthony was the the shooter the family member said I don't think Anthony would
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do that I don't know him to be a violent person I know that the only weapon that
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he would carry was a knife which he uses to camp out his family said that they did not know that Anthony had weapons
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charges on his record and said that most of his offenses to their knowledge were
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simply Petty offenses and that he steered clear of conflict well and maybe that was true at one point but we have
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we have video evidence that he's carrying a gun then like you said he has these weapon charges we see often when
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we cover these cases that not always does the family know what everybody is up to right right
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so let's take a look at Anthony Row's criminal history the Los Angeles Daily News reports that according to online
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records he has six conviction for illegal weapons and ammunition possession charges in California this is
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both in Los Angeles and Ventura counties he also has criminal convictions in Texas and the State of Florida he was
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convicted of disorderly conduct in 1999 this was in Hillsboro County Florida later 99 he was convicted of assault
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causing bodily injury in El Paso Texas in 2003 prosecuted in LA County California for commercial burglary and
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was sentenced to a few months in jail then in 2004 arrested again and prosecuted for being a felon in
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possession of a gun and explosives this time he was sentenced to more than four years in state prison in 2006 he was
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convicted of what previously was listed in the California Penal Code as possessing materials with the intent to
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make destru Ive devices and explosives right so he wanted to make bombs correct yeah his more recent convictions these
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take place in 2014 one in Ventura and Los Angeles counties were for being a felon in possession of a
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fire firearm and ammunition and for carrying a loaded firearm without registration and then he was last in
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jail in September of 2016 when he was arrested by deputies at the Lost Hills station this explains how he was known
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to the sheriff's department and how they possibly figured out that he was their burglar upon this arrest he was
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sentenced to serve a 30-day sentence on a misdemeanor charge and a 10-day sentence for a probation violation this
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is according to court records then 4 months before Tristan's murder Anthony was again arrested this time for
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trespassing but was released quoted in multiple Publications was a comment from a detective on the case regarding
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Anthony's rap sheet says quote it's a 10-year crime spree that could make a Hollywood
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movie Anthony's most recent address was a condo in kenoga park that address dates back to
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2012 however as we know and as his family says he was living in the Hills yeah law enforcement sources who spoke
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to the media referred to Anthony as a survivalist who lived primarily outdoors and had no fixed
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address this seems like in a a bit of an exaggerated term or title as me and my friend Jess were talking about the
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Malibu Creek State Park is not exactly the Alaskan Wilderness yeah that's what I was thinking it's a state park he out
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living in the state park Alexander Super [ __ ] he did have extended family that
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is reported to live in the area in that area somewhere now after the arrest Anthony was booked on a felony
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charge one for parole violations and was held without bail while prosecutors built their case he appeared in court on
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November 29th 2008 where he was found guilty of violating the terms of his probation this is
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because he was in possession of a firearm and failed to check in with his parole officer the judge sentenced him
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to 160 days he was also required to appear on a separate weapons charge in December this
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seems like a design to keep him in prison pending more serious charges being brought mhm the district attorney
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likely wants to keep him locked up because he's been deemed dangerous and I mean think about this if Anthony rowata
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is the Killer and is the shooter this is not only murder but it's also a form of
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domestic terrorism when he appeared in court he was rolled into court restrained to a
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chair wearing what is called a spit Hood this so you can see photos of of Anthony
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from this court appearance yeah he's derang looking really and he's he's almost appears somewhat happy to be
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there learing from under the hood th This Hood as the the name would indicate is designed to prevent
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prisoners from spitting and biting yeah they used to use something that looked more like the Hannibal Lector mask right
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but now they I think they use this net more more often now he almost looks like a be catcher yeah it's like yeah like a
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giant hairnet SLB catcher thing the restraint was used because in a previous court appearance from
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November 1st Anthony went on an you know he's cussing everybody out he's ranting
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and raving he slammed the walls of the courtroom holding cell apparently he also tried to bite spit on
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and attack members of the court in this earlier court appearance well sometimes his face in
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these pictures look like he's a baby that just pooped himself and he's smiling about it and then there's other
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pictures same same date I I assume uh where he looks like he's staring somebody down as if he wants to you know
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Murder them and eat them yeah that that's the one where he's wearing the spit Hood At The later court date but
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all stemming from his crazy Outburst at the previous court appearance right where at one point he
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was yelling things like I'm not going to cooperate with the public defender office objecting to his courta appointed
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attorney right now because of this outburst and because of his behavior it was the in was adjourned and the was
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the evidence here captain or at least the the charges and what uh evidence has been presented yeah the the sheriff's
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department said that they were investigating whether he could be responsible for some or all of the
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shootings that took place in that Park area now preliminary ballistics analysis showed more than one type of gun was
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used in these shootings sources told the media so it's it's not immediately clear
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how many if any in might be linked to the rifle scen in the security video that he was carrying in the security
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video this makes sense because as we know James Rogers was shot with a different caliber bullet than the bullet
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that was that hit uh M's car so we have the car shooting and we have James Rogers who was in the hammock we know
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that different caliber bullets were used in those two shootings on January 7th of
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this year the Los Angeles County's DA office issued a press release stating that Anthony Rada was being charged with
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the murder in connection with Tristan bod's death further rata was also charged with 10 counts of attempted
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murder and charged with five counts of second deegree burglary all of these incidents occurred within the time frame
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from November of 2016 to October of 2018 mhm the spefic specifics of such is released in a statement that says roua
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is accused of opening fire on unsuspecting Campers or motorist dating back to November
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2016 when he allegedly wounded a man who was sleeping in a hammock in the Malibu
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State Park area less than a week later he allegedly fired into the sleeping area of a vehicle rata also is accused
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of shooting into vehicles on three different occasions in 2017 no one was injured the defendant
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allegedly shot at a Tesla on Los Virginia Road on June 18th 2018 4 days later he is accused of
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killing Tristan bodette age 35 who was shot and killed while in ATT tent with his two daughters in Malibu Creek State
00:31:16
Park his children were not injured the prosecutors also said that evidence showed that rata is responsible
00:31:25
for even more additional shoo and even more additional burglaries which there's just not enough evidence
00:31:33
that has been found for a prosecution to to actually even bring forth charges on
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that right this I mean this is just terrifying when you think of it but this this includes
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the until now unsolved unresolved shooting of a woman driving on Thousand Oaks Boulevard in Ventura County in
00:31:55
2010 so so he's charged with eight shootings now the complaint also maintained that one person besides James
00:32:03
Rogers was injured in these shootings so this is new information we don't know who that person was right at the January
00:32:12
7th arraignment Anthony's bail was set at $1.1 million now he did not enter a plea at this hearing but he did so at
00:32:22
another hearing which took place on January 22nd after his arrest police conducted
00:32:29
ballistic test on Anthony's rifle and confirmed it was used in several of the Malibu Creek State Park shootings
00:32:38
including the murder of Tristan bodette this is from the LA Times citing Anonymous sources within law
00:32:47
enforcement these officials also told the times that Anthony's weapon of choice changed during the two years from
00:32:54
a shotgun to a rifle but it's it's not clear how he obtained those weapons as we have seen he has a felony
00:33:05
criminal record and he is not allowed to be purchasing or possessing firearms The Daily News reported that
00:33:13
the complaint filed against Anthony Rada specified that he used a shotgun in the
00:33:20
first six shootings but in the final two shootings he used the rifle it was not clear whether any other weapon other
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than the rifle were found in his possession when he was arrested and law enforcement didn't believe that he knew
00:33:37
any of the victims he was shooting at yeah they they publicly state that they believe all of these were all random
00:33:45
targets of opportunity and but what we didn't see during the court appearances is we don't
00:33:53
have prosecutors setting forth a motive in the charging documents so where does this case stand
00:34:02
today where where are we at in this whole thing yeah we know that Anthony entered a not guilty plea at a court
00:34:09
hearing that took place in January of this year he is due back in court this month and remains in jail this is he's
00:34:20
got $10 million bail to to post here yeah the arrest in the ending murder trial is not the end of this story the
00:34:31
Malibu patch reported in January of this year that quote the shooting death of Tristan bodet an Irvine father camping
00:34:39
with his two young daughters revealed that authorities had long known of the string
00:34:45
of random sniper shootings targeting campers in the area but had not publicized the threat until after his
00:34:52
tragic death end quote this obviously is a big deal allegations made in the media that the
00:35:01
sheriff's department knew about the shootings in the area dating all the way back to
00:35:05
2016 and avoided publicizing them so as not to alarm the public as we know the sheriff's department acknowledged that
00:35:15
there were several shootings but only after Tristan was killed these shootings were all reported to law enforcement
00:35:23
when they occurred sometimes by multiple people yet the campground was open for business the park was open to everyone
00:35:32
all of this came about without warning to the public so rightfully so captain in December of last year Erica wo filed
00:35:41
a 90 million lawsuit against the Los Angeles sheriff's department and the California State Park
00:35:50
police and the department of Parks and Recreation accusing them of failing to warn the public about the shootings the
00:35:58
complaint stated that these agencies neglect failed to care and provide a safe space for bodette and his children
00:36:06
instead causing his death the lawsuit is pending Scott mcer Tristan's brother-in-law told GQ Magazine at some
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point I feel like there has to be some accountability there are reports of people shooting and doing things that
00:36:23
put the public in danger and the fact that we didn't know about it because if we had we wouldn't have gone right even
00:36:32
if we got to the front gate if we realize that there were incidents of people being shot at or just hearing
00:36:39
gunshots we wouldn't have gone we wouldn't have had taken our kids there right it's not I don't think it's so
00:36:45
much about them protecting themselves as as much as it would be protecting your children right and I think it's
00:36:52
important that we have his brother-in-law standing out and and very publicly stating had we known any of
00:36:59
this was going on we we wouldn't have gone in there yeah just just plain simple fact it this all would have been
00:37:06
avoided well it's it's a lot of horseshit don't you think I mean maybe one shooting maybe a
00:37:15
couple um reports of gunshots because it it is a park even though you're not supposed to hunt there mhm I could see
00:37:24
not reporting some of that stuff not not trying to R up the community it is it is
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a rich area it is there's money right we don't want to alarm the we don't want to uh have the the community up in arms
00:37:42
over something that's not that big of a deal but these are multiple shootings right right and in multiple accounts 20
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uh a shooting that was maybe 20 ft away now we got cars being shot at on the roads I mean this is something you need
00:37:56
to be reporting that's where my head goes to as well Captain it's like it's it's a it's a really difficult
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and tragic story to tell because in my humble garage opinion what we have here is is a crazy dangerous person on the
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loose in a very public space but the the thing that gets me at the end of the day is just what you said
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there's so many reports of this there's so many different occurrences of the same thing over and over again you can't
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prevent crazy you can't stop some random thing like this from happening all of the time but when you have multiple
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reports of the same thing it seems like you've really done a disservice to everyone to not do
00:38:49
something well like like you said there's 63 spots and 60 of them were filled possibly none of them would be
00:38:57
filled if if there was these reports out there and and and we know that the the term crazy is kind of frowned upon this
00:39:09
guy is definitely mentally ill uh this guy is definitely um he needs some help number one and
00:39:18
number two he's far too dangerous to live in society right I I I totally agree and and hopefully they can combine
00:39:28
all these charges it's it's very strange though too that he'd be shooting at people or shooting in
00:39:37
areas and so those are just the reports that we know I wonder how many ports uh reports didn't go you know how many
00:39:45
people got shot out at their campsite and they just didn't see a bullet hole right or didn't you know or didn't hear
00:39:51
it or how many times did people in the area hear gunshots from this individual and dismiss it as something else right
00:39:59
and just went oh well it's or again because it's at night they were sleeping and didn't hear it what's strange to me
00:40:08
though is this guy which I think it's pretty clear he has some mental illness that he was breaking in not to
00:40:18
residential areas but to to um commercial spots and it and it didn't seem like he was trying to steal
00:40:28
much other than to survive survive and so it's it seems like he was going in the
00:40:37
wrong direction though because now he's wearing all the SWAT tactical gear is what they were
00:40:44
calling it right and then it's like what would have happened um if this killing didn't happen where where would he ramp
00:40:53
this up to because I if you know well that's the whole thing why I think the lawsuit is so important
00:41:00
because it seems to me like these shootings were going to continue to occur until he shot and killed somebody
00:41:08
it was only then that they made it public knowledge that hey these shootings have been going on for a while
00:41:15
it was only then that they truly made strong efforts to seek out this this individual yeah and what if he would
00:41:21
have that night while people were sleeping he attacked all 60 campsites right you know I mean and like
00:41:29
went on on a spree so this is why law enforcement look just do your job and well and he was deranged enough I
00:41:38
believe to have been capable of of just that and so a late a late late update on
00:41:47
this um it appears that his preliminary court appearance is now pushed back to March of 20 20 so the da is saying that
00:41:59
they need uh everybody all involved need more time to prepare for this trial to move forward yeah but if
00:42:08
you I think if you look at the evidence um it's pretty clear what happened here and who's responsible for it yeah and we
00:42:19
did mention a man named Zack Baron earlier uh he's the one who wrote the GQ long form article about this case yeah
00:42:31
and I I want to repeat what he says here he says the facts of the case all seem to point to a crime of recklessness
00:42:40
which isn't to say it wasn't murder someone fired a weapon into a crowded Campground and a man died because of it
00:42:48
but the story effectively is that there is no story no cause and effect no logic
00:42:55
to it at all if he had been lying down in even a slightly different position he likely would still be alive well and
00:43:05
this is why talking about mental illness is very important because this guy's family and friends
00:43:12
knew something wasn't right I agree with that too and and I think the thing is is
00:43:17
some people go well he's not hurting himself but that doesn't mean it's not going to turn into him taking uh these
00:43:24
kids um father 's life mhm and and and when there's not a million amazing dads out there and here's this guy trying to
00:43:33
take his daughters and and raise them right and give them you know love and affection and all that stuff and and now
00:43:43
he's gone and it's and and maybe this guy is not some evil human being maybe this guy uh is just hit with some mental
00:43:55
illness but at the end of the day he took somebody's life so this stuff needs to be talked about and when you see your
00:44:04
loved ones having issues uh not only to try to get them help but to get them help so they don't hurt somebody
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