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thank you [Music] [Music] I don't want your love [Music] [Music] Captain we have reached the point of we
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are at a trial now we're not going to go through the whole trial but there were certainly plenty of highlights it's
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interesting to note that Kyler appeared at trial looking clean cut in a dark suit almost appearing respectable
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and earlier proceedings he was wearing ratty clothing long hair and showing off tattoos and piercings while this was a
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part of the defense's strategy the prosecution painted Kyler as a vengeful irrational jealous young man who became
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lethally violent with women who rejected him saying he killed both Jessica and Cara
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because he could not stand to see them moving on to other men and he confessed to six people over the years they said
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the bodies of the women were found on private property owned by a family that Kyler was very familiar with he had been
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in a band with one of the family members and had visited their Farm often the prosecution presented Cara's case first
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Ronda was the first witness talking about Cara and her concerns about Kyler how he was abusive and how Cara wrote a
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poem about being afraid of Kyler which Rhonda had found in her room after she disappeared Rhonda read it out loud it
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said I want to go back but we have seen too much bad pressing charges on the one I love
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scared of the person I used to love I'm through she also discussed her daughter's
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protection order against Kyler other Witnesses included friends of cars who testified about her volatile
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relationship with Kyler his possessiveness and the abuse that left visible bruising on car and how they had
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counseled her to leave him well in the five years or so that we've been doing the show we see this so much and we hear
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about so much abuse in relationships especially men towards women and this should go without saying but real men do
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not abuse women period Then in Jessica's case Jamie and other family members testified about Jessica's life and
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Friends testified who saw Jessica leaving that party that night with Kyler photos were shown in court of the burns
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on Kyler's face and body and his singed hair when he was found at the Edwards trailer
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in September of 2016. again scratches are also visible on his face the prosecution pointed out that
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Kyler had scratches on his face when he was arrested for the car fire and it should be noted that nobody at the party
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has ever stated that Kyler had scratches on his face the day of the party meaning
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that the scratches came afterwards photos were also shown of the contents of a burn barrel that was found on the
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property of jessup's Uncle the barrel was determined to contain aerosol cans outside the barrel on the ground Tex
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found a black cloth a buckle and a black otter phone case the uncle testified that Kyler Jessup and Crystal
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were at his house on the evening of September 9th he says he went inside and then the three left when he came out
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there was a fire burning in one of the barrels so he put it out and also testified that his house was
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burned down in July of 2018 and he knows that his nephew Jessup was responsible for burning down
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his house and listeners will remember that he was in fact arrested for arson of this property right Kansas City
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Police Department Sergeant Terence Carter a retired Kansas City Police Department Master detective and bomb and
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arson expert testified about the burns on Kyler and how they likely came from a gasoline flash burn such as setting a
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car Ablaze Melanie fields Kansas City Police Department crime scene unit supervisor testified that the
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girl's bones were scattered over a wide area she also testified about the photos
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of Kyler's Burns a County Deputy Dustin love testified about arresting Kyler and
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noticing injuries on Kyler's face and when he asked Kyler about these injuries Kyler told him that he ran into a tree
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that's too bad that tree didn't fall on him and crush his skull correct but it's
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just a lie to cover up for the injuries obviously and here's a portion of this story that we really have to we kind of
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continue along the way of filling it out but what is important to the trial and to whether or not Kyler is actually
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guilty surrounds a lot of this story of Jessup Crystal and Kyler being together on that night
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right okay so here we're going to have a deputy that will testify about the vehicle stop
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when he stopped Jessup Kyler and Crystal in that vehicle the deputy says that he
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knew Kyler as they attended elementary school together so he is obviously aware of who
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it is in the vehicle and according to this deputy's testimony he said that Kyler looked extremely
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nervous knees shaking pale in the face and had obviously peed his pants ew so the deputies trying to point out exactly
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how nervous Kyler a man that he knew right appeared to him he's physically nervous to the point of pale in the face
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knee shaking and he says obviously peed his pants on if you get on to law enforcement you're going to know all the
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kids that you grew up with that have become scumbags and are on the other side of the law crime scene Tech Matthew
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Force testified about processing Jessica's Equinox and the red gas can found inside one potential witness this
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would be Alfred used the grandfather he could not testify at his grandson Kyler's trial as he passed away before
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the start of the trial but he had been deposed in July of 2019 and the prosecution succeeded in having
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his deposition read at the trial Alfred's son Kenny is Kyler's father Alfred said that on May 4th 2007 he had
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coffee read the paper did some lawn work and then he and his wife Doris went to the nursing home to visit his
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sister-in-law which is Kyler's aunt this was at 12 45 they stayed until 2 45 went home and napped then watched the
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news Wheel of Fortune in a baseball game before going to bed Kyler wasn't living there
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at that time but came by often right on the fourth he stopped in in the morning sometime between 11 and 11 30 to get gas
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for his truck Alfred and Kyler went to a gas station where he said that Kyler put eight to
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ten gallons of gas in then Kyler met them at the nursing home to visit with his aunt around 12 45 stayed for about
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an hour and then left at 1 45. Kyler seemed to be in a normal mood said his grandfather the implication was that
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Kyler's morning was unaccounted for until about 11 something a.m right we know Cara disappeared after she left
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school at 9 19. but this is a little more in favor of Kyler right because we have a witness who's putting him while
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accounting for more of his time that day more of his time and also his demeanor yeah as for Jessica on September 8th
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2016 Kyler was staying with Alfred he said that they awoke at six Alfred dropped Kyler at work at eight
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Kyler worked until four and Alfred picked him up then he went bowling and didn't see Kyler again until September
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9th which was a Friday morning both got up around six for work and Alfred drove Kyler to his job at extreme bumpers but
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he picked Kyler up around 9 or 10 a.m Kyler left work early that day and a co-worker testified that Kyler had
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scratches on his face and looked as though he didn't want to be there again Kyler's time between when he left the
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party with Jessica around 11 40 p.m and 6 a.m when Alfred saw him again is unaccounted for well that's a very good
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testimony because like I said nobody at the party sees him with scratches next morning he's at work and co-workers say
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hey look he's acting strange he doesn't want to be there and he has cuts and scrapes on his face well this
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leads us Captain to Crystal Taylor this is jessup's Widow who testified for the prosecution about the incident where she
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was driving with Jessup and Kyler on the day Jessica's car was burned right she said that when the officer pulled them
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over Kyler started freaking out saying and pardon my French because my French is just not very good quote Oh my God
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someone might just as well [ __ ] kill me now she was asked about the timeline on the
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day Jessica went missing crystal said that Jessup was home on that night and everything was normal until the morning
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of the ninth Kyler called their mother demanding to see Jessup so Jessup and Crystal went to Kansas City to meet
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Kyler at his grandfather's home when they picked him up he seemed like he was in a hurry to get out of there
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this is when they went to jessup's Uncle's house Kyler told Crystal he and Jessica had broken up mutually
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but were still in touch while she was talking to him he got a phone call from someone asking if he had
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seen Jessica because she was now missing and he suggested that the caller file a
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missing person's report Crystal was scared of Kyler at this point she says because she knew he was a
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suspect in Cara's case and now she's learning on the spot this other girl Jessica is missing as
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well then Jessup and Kyler went somewhere on their own for maybe 45 minutes she says
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she does not know where they went or what they did it's probably when they're burning her car when they got back
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she said that Jessup looked shocked scared and uneasy the three of them went to a friend's
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house at this house Jessup went upstairs and got a gun and slipped it to Crystal
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telling her to hold on to it according to Crystal Kyler did not see this take place
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and Kyler asked her and Jessup to take the batteries out of their phones out of their cell phones
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and he had already thrown his out so at this point they left Kansas City to drive to Edwards Missouri where the
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plan was to leave Kyler hiding out in a trailer and this is when they were pulled over for that erratic driving
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and Kyler was freaking out well think about this too jessup's not a good guy right he has some problems of his own so
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whatever he saw or whatever he helped Kyler do once I get into a situation where he can
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get some kind of weapon he gets a weapon yep because he is now fearful for his safety and his girlfriend's safety or
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his wife's safety it also kind of points out that wherever they disappear to for
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that 45 minutes he heard something witnessed something or was told something or all of the
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three that scared the crap out of Jessup and I look I'm gonna just say I'm guessing he
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saw something maybe he saw Jessica's body because I don't think you'd be that physically shaken up
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just if somebody told you something because half the time you want to believe them
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well and then the other move here Captain is as soon as they drop Kyler off at this trailer where he's supposed to
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you know hide out for a while right it's as soon as they get back home from dropping him off that they call police
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and reported Kyler for the murder so as soon as they can get away from this guy who had called them for help
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they're immediately reporting hey something terrible happened here and we're pretty certain that this Kyler guy
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is all mixed up in it and he's responsible for something horrible well that doesn't mean that they felt bad for
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whatever Kyler did or felt bad for what who whatever victim they possibly saw but I think they called the cops because
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now he's a threat to them and so if the cops get him off the street then I don't have to constantly
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be worrying what he might do to stop me from telling anybody what I saw cell phone tracking
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evidence was presented by the prosecution in the form of a map but they did not have specifics on Kyler's
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movements that day because remember he took his battery out of his phone one thing that the jury was specifically
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charged with deciding whether or not was Kyler in Cass County on September 8th between the hours of 11 45 pm and
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September 9th at 6 a.m the prosecution expert also said that jessup's phone was nowhere nearby at all during that time
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frame as well Candace Saint Claire testified about the episode where Kyler found her packing
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her bags to leave him and he tells her she's not allowed to leave choked her and at some point even
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confesses that he had killed ex-girlfriends out of jealousy to her she said he told her something bad had
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happened to Cara and he dragged her body into the woods and he told her he had gone around Gathering up missing persons
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signs about Cara and then dumped them in her parents yard she said she didn't go to police because
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she was terrified of Kyler oh yeah because this guy is a freaking psychopath and on top of that you should
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be able to smell him coming because he he reeks a pee Nick eats a former roommate testified that Kyler once told
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him that he killed Cara because she would not love him and he didn't want anyone else to have her now on the stand
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he also made reference to Kyler raping an ex-girlfriend but the defense cut him off and his comment was stricken from
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the record this leads us to Caitlyn Ferris this is an interesting little portion of
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our story here captain Caitlyn dated Kyler in high school now before she moved to North Carolina when
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she got married she told the police twice in early 2011 that Kyler had confessed to her about killing Cara
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she testified about wearing a wire at the request of the FBI and trying to get Kyler to confess on tape right the feds
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had approached her and asked her to help them out because she was still in touch
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with Kyler at that time the FBI actually paid for her to fly to Missouri and tried to entrap Kyler on recorded audio
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they hoped that since he had already confessed to her previously that he would do so again
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so Caitlyn was given a recording device hidden in a key fob and reached out to Kyler some of the recording was played
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for the jury in it Kyler tells her he is going to kill himself because every girl he has
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ever loved has left him he cries and says he is always alone and that he has killed someone Caitlyn says
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he will feel better now that he has told her then Caitlyn suggests that the two drive to a wooded area to play Ouija
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like Ouija board yeah they want to do like a summons or a seance and try to talk to Cara's Spirit yeah they played
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that audio and video at the trial because it's almost like she set up her cell phone like in between the two of
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them while they're driving and you could see him like turning his head and talking to her and at one point he's
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like biting her lip and not letting her lip go and it's very strange and then he's constantly you know she's going
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well what would you say to Cara and he keeps saying well Cara please don't hate me
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yeah at one point Kyler can be heard saying dear Cara I'm really sorry love Kyler the jury also
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heard Kyla referring to their Excursion as the death spot of the girlfriend I killed later Kyler is heard saying on
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the audio tape that he had killed her and I dumped her in the woods Kyler also talks about what he's going to do with
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his inheritance mind you from his grandfather who is still alive at the time of the recording
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yeah dirt pads so given what this guy suspected of man is that disturbing to hear him talking about not
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all these not just all these things with Cara and her spirit and what he did with
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her but oh what I'm going to do with my inheritance from my grandfather who's still alive
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through this whole thing there are portions where Kyler is telling Caitlyn that he loves her that she's the only
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one for him and so on the state presented a recording of two jailhouse phone calls Kyler made to his mother his
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mom says that she loves and supports him but Kyler tells her that he dragged Jessica Into the Woods
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because of her and that she was never there for him so this is just one of many confessions
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this time to Jessica's murder yeah it seems like he confessed to anybody that would listen to him anybody that's
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willing to spend more than five minutes with this guy he's going to start telling you that he killed somebody this
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time he's telling his mother as he's sitting in jail waiting to go to trial hey I
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I dragged Jessica into the woods because of you mom because you were never there
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for me well partly that's probably true he probably has some Early Childhood trauma and he's probably has some
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abandonment issues and so if a girl leaves him he doesn't know how to deal with that as an adult as a as a human so
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therefore I have to take this individual's life so they can't leave me yeah and the
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interesting thing here too Captain just looking at my notes this must have been this conversation between Kyler and his
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mother must have been after he was arrested for setting Jessica's vehicle on fire before her body was found
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because he blames whatever he did to Jessica on his mother to which his mom responds
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you know she's pleading with him to you know you need to tell people where Jessica is right and so he then hangs up
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on on his mother never revealing the location of Jessica or exactly what he did we have Megan runyon's uh this is
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Jessica's little sister she testified that she was so devastated after the loss of her sister that she wanted to
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end her own life and it sounds like she almost did so instead at some point she decided to do what Jessica would want
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her to do she says so she graduated with honors from school Amy Clark the friend who reported Carr
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missing testified the two weeks before Carr went missing Carr showed up at her house distressed about Kyler she was
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trying to leave him Kyler called and called her phone she says maybe 20 times that day until Cara finally agreed to
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meet with him uh she left for a bit and came back to Amy's with a swollen lip and choke marks
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on her throat of course this controlling douchebag afterwards has to then just keep calling her and harassing her well
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the prosecution is going to argue that okay we have these bones that we found the remains of the two young women
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unfortunately there were only about 50 bones of each were found the prosecution is going to say that the
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remains were consistent with strangulation and they've shown time and time again with all these witnesses that
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this was consistent with Kyler's treatment of other women women who survived on the flip side of all of that Captain
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the defense Kyler's defense mounted a vigorous defense they allege that the police suffered from tunnel vision and
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focused on Kyler when others such as Jessup were equally viable suspects and were never investigated well of course
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that's what this giant pile of dog [ __ ] is going to do he refuses to accept responsibility for his actions and so he
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throws everybody else under the bus hey go look at these other guys that they were seeing Oh by the way go look at my
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half-brother he's a person of interest yeah his defense tried to poke holes in the case the evidence and the
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methodologies used by the state they said that there was Zero physical evidence linking Kyler to the crimes
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they portrayed Kyler as a lost little kid a talented artist a goofball someone non-threatening and misunderstood they
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also said that Kyler had Alibis and could not have killed I either Jessica or Cara in quite a few instances the
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defense Witnesses testified only in front of the judge in an offer of proof these Witnesses
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were not heard by the jury because the judge refused to allow them to testify in open court and then the defense tried
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to raise suspicions about jessup's involvement [Music] thank you [Music] [Music]
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all right we're back cheers Captain you silly willies you Willy sillies we're back so
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I mean think about this his defense you know first of all we know he calls Jessup his half-brother to
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come help him now we don't know exactly what Jessup helped him do you know we don't know if Jessup was involved in
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burning the car we know he possibly was there but there was something that startled Jess up
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and that's what I believe it was a body uh the movement of a body or something like that something startled Jess up
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that's why he told his wife here's a you know that's why at that well the defense
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pointed out that it took Jessup six hours after dropping Kyler off at the trailer to call police so they wanted to
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present the obvious question of well what was Jessup doing during that time and the defense pointed out that Jessup
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was the one who started the fire at Paul's house you know they wanted to imply that maybe he was destroying some
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kind of evidence they also questioned why Crystal and Jessup got married in 2017 this after 15
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years together was it so that she could not be forced to testify against Jessup they emphasized that police didn't find
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anything of evidentiary value in the burn barrel at Paul's what they did find was aerosol cans and their expert argued
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that Kyler could have gotten the burns on his face and hands from burning those cans and having them explode
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this is a alternative to him burning himself setting Jessica's vehicle on fire right the defense focused on the
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fact that no one had proven when or how Cara died an attempt by them to introduce a witness who would testify to
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rumors that she had OD'd on meth this was rejected by the judge the defense also focused on a long brown
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hair found near Jessica's remains Jessica's hair was blonde again the implication was that someone else was at
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the crime scene the defense tried to imply that Kyler could not have killed Jessica based on the timeline based on
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phone records Kyler was home from 2 am to 2 46 a.m but Jessica's phone was pinging at 3 A.M in Belton Kyler was
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home at this time so he could not have killed her is what they were claiming further they tried to introduce evidence
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that Jessica was a pothead and had been smoking pot at the party yet no THC was found in her brain matter
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this meant that she had not died soon after the party as THC needs time to pass through the system
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so they're pointing out that she must have died much later so anyone could have killed her not Kyler or maybe not
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just Kyler right the defense points out that the wiretap girl Caitlyn moved in with Kyler after that saying that
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clearly she was not scared of him also they suggested that the two were role playing on the audio but that's great I
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mean that's a great defense because it's absolutely insane that you would move in
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with somebody after that tape recording of basically a confession exactly because what they're saying is they're
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role playing in this audio Kyler went along with her because he thought she would put out if he pretended to have
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killed someone because he says that she told him it turned her on they implied that she was that she tried
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to use sex to entrap him and he played along with it so he could get some ew Deborah Heflin who lived two blocks from
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Belton High School in May of 2007 testified for the defense about something not heard by the public before
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she said that on May 4th the Descartes disappeared she saw a teenage girl walking down the street around 11 30 or
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12 noon then the girl was crying and distraught on the phone with someone suddenly a dark sedan with four people
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inside approached her and Deborah heard a blood curdling scream she did not know
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Cara but recognized her quote three years later when she saw a news report on the case and said I knew it was her
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this was her testimony across the state Castell on her recall well of course it's three years later this is one of
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those don't you hate when you see one of these at trial some some lady that saw something that
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that stood out in her mind and stuck in her mind for so long because it was terrifying all the sedan pulls up and
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four people inside approached this girl that she didn't know and then the girl's
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gone right she hears a scream but doesn't do anything about it on that day and it's not until three years later
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when she sees a news report on on Cara's case and says oh my goodness that's the
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girl I saw three years ago it it's just casting doubt here at trial on something that you just you have to
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question every sentence in her statement this isn't a strong witness to me and I
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don't even know if I would have necessarily called her well if you're the defense you're calling her but yeah
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you're right it's it's one of those ones that I think just kind of muddles the waters a little bit you know
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really gets muddies the waters a little bit here and gets things more confusing than they than they certainly need to be
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now one thing that we shouldn't call into question is this next expert witness the for the defense it's a
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forensic anthropologist who took the stand and said you know the prosecution is trying to
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paint the picture that Kyler strangled both of these victims and then dumped their bodies however
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at the crime scene investigators failed to locate the victim's hyoid bones so they couldn't really be sure about
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strangulation which obviously that argument goes in Kyler's favor yeah yeah and really what you're pointing out here
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captain and I think that we need to really hit home is the defense is going to not just kind of poke holes in some
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of the state's case but a large part of their defense is focused around nobody being able to prove that Kyler was where
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they thought he was during the times that he's committing these crimes right and eventually this is going to lead to
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the defendant himself taking the stand and you pointed out off Mike earlier what an interesting turn of events where
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earlier the defense is saying this guy's not even competent to stand trial and now later he's taking the stand in
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his own defense well and again that's look you're trying to start off the argument by going oh he's incompetent to
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stay in trial but now because he's such a psychopath a sociopath he's such a good liar he comes
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off as believable he might be even Charming to some people again like you said he comes into court with disheveled
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clothes and now he's all dappered up I mean this is just a it's a [ __ ] defense and we're going to put him on
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the stand knowing that he's just lying through his teeth yeah and it's interesting because he gets up there and
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he he's calm and he's kind of soft-spoken at times now under direct from his attorney he
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said that he did not kill either Cara or Jessica saying I don't know exactly what
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happened to Cara I didn't do anything to either of them and he says that the families had been
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hounding him over the years but that didn't mean that he did it he didn't do it instead he said that his dead
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stepbrother Jessup was involved yeah and both murders that his his half-brother Jessup is a serial killer
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I wonder why Kyle while Kyler was on the stand if he was wetting himself Mr pee pee pants yeah he said that on
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May 4th 2007 so we're going back to the the car case here and this is again Kyler's words on the stand
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he says on May 4th 2007 he was at his grandfather's house for a time and then went to practice with his band then and
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this is a big departure from what he had been saying since 2007 he said that he and Jessup went to pick Cara up from
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Belton High School on May 4th the three of them hung out at his apartment and tried to score some weed then Kyler left
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to go visit his aunt at the nursing home and Jessup was going to go to a state park with Cara so here's a
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little recap from that testimony on the witness stand Kyler admitted to lying to police on multiple occasions
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over the last 14 years about being with Cara on the day of her disappearance right he said he lied because he didn't
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want to get in trouble because Carr had a protection order against him at the time
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Kyler also claimed his half-brother Jessup Carter was driving the pickup truck when he picked up Cara at Belton
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High School Kyler testified he went back to his home with Cara and Jessup and then tried to get some marijuana from a
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friend he then claimed he left Carr and Jessup to go to that friend's house and then on to Kansas City to see his great
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aunt at a rehab facility so all this time he's stuck to one story about not seeing her that day at all the
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day in question for 14 years and then all of a sudden while he's on the stand trying to save his own butt he
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throws his dead half-brother under the bus saying the last time I actually saw her
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we did hang out that day yeah but I left her with with Jessup and when I came back I don't know what
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happened yeah and the prosecution is going to say hey are you the most unlucky man ever to walk the face of the
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Earth two girls that you dated went missing they're both last seen with you you have abusive violent past with both
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of the girls and you then confess to hundreds of people and tell people that you're
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responsible for the murders but now you're saying that you're you're half brother is a serial killer and decides
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to just kill girls that you dated or girls that just recently broke up with you you must be the most unlucky man to
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ever walk this Earth yeah his response was anyone who has a brother who is a serial killer is unlucky which is such a
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[ __ ] answer because the No No the two girls you dated are the most unlucky people in the world if your half brother
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is a is a serial killer that just happens to kill his half-brother's girlfriends well that's his story in
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Cara's case but he says that the night that Jessica disappeared in 2016 that Jessica drove him home because he was
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super drunk that seems believable right based off of what we heard from the witnesses at the party
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and Jessup was in the car as well how he magically got there I don't know the next thing he says he remembers is that
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he woke up at his grandfather's house the next day again implying that he's too drunk to have done anything to
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Jessica and last time he saw her she's fine and in the company of Jessup yeah doesn't explain the scratches on your
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face Jessup scratch your face well he goes on to say that um Jessup killed himself because Kyler then
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pled not guilty in the killing of the two girls meaning that Jessup may not have killed
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himself had Kyler just pled guilty taking the blame and then it was only after he decided to plead not guilty
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that Jessup felt that he had to kill himself yeah this guy's a liar liar pee pants on fire and then all those people
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that he told or at least that testified that he had told them that he had killed
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one of the girls or both of them or had done something leaving one of them or both of them in the woods he on the
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stand just flat out denies having confessed to anyone about what he had done so all those people are just making
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up all those people are lying you're the only one telling the truth and on top of
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that you're the only one with peed filled pants everybody else their pants are clean they're Mr Clean pants that's
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right well you're not buying it Captain I'm not buying it and the jury didn't buy it either because on April 15th this
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after 15 hours of deliberation they found Kyler guilty a voluntary manslaughter in Cara's case and second-degree murder
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in Jessica's case which showed that he killed her with intent the family was permitted to give Victim Impact
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statements prior to the jury's sentencing recommendation Cara's mom talked about how Cara had planned to go
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into the medical field and she was a loving trusting girl whose disappearance ripped the family apart and started a
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10-year nightmare she told the jury that she did not feel the manslaughter conviction was enough I agree Carr's
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stepfather told the jury that Rhonda had been paying cars phone bill for the entire 14 years since she vanished in
00:39:22
case they needed the number for her case right they had called the phone often just to hear Cara on the voicemail
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then we have Jessica's mother Jamie runions said it's been the longest four years and seven months of my entire life
00:39:38
her daughter who was kind to everyone and loved music and dancing was taken from them far too soon she said that one
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of her other daughters tried to take her own life since Jessica's murder her ex John Jessica's father said he would
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never get to walk Jessica down the aisle and her younger sisters would never get
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to see her grow as a role model for them the jury recommended life for the murder
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and 15 years for the manslaughter after the verdict Rhonda and Jamie addressed the media saying we are thankful to be
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where we are today because there were days when we didn't know if our girls would ever be found right and we're just
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so thankful that they were found and we have them back but this is also because they didn't give up the mothers didn't
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give up the mothers leading the charge having the community not give up I think that's why you keep that people talking
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about it that's why he confessed to so many people because people were continuing to talk about it because he
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was a suspect for nine years and the community wouldn't let that go which kept that on his that kept that on
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Kyler's mind and on his conscience and then he had to tell people about it to try to feel better about the bad stuff
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he did that's really interesting captain and I agree with that 100 percent uh the
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judge sentenced Kyler to the max which was was 15 years for the voluntary manslaughter and life imprisonment for
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the second degree murder in Missouri look this is this is an ongoing issue and we're not going to
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solve it in the garage here today but oftentimes life does not mean life and Missouri a life sentence is capped at 30
00:41:33
years prisoners who serve about 85 percent of the sentence become eligible for parole these sentences will run
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consecutively but Kyler will also receive credit for some time served which was about four years at that point
00:41:49
so he could be out in about 34 years Kyler rejected the opportunity to say anything in court before the sentencing
00:41:58
which is ironic as you pointed out how he confessed to so many people along the way
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this is the one time that he chose to keep his mouth shut and again you have to wonder
00:42:13
if he had simply kept his mouth shut to begin with between 2007 and 2016 we didn't have much physical evidence in
00:42:21
this case right there's a possibility he would not be in prison today so we should be thankful that he couldn't stop
00:42:28
talking in June of this year Kyler filed his appeal for his conviction as is his
00:42:36
right he will see that process through as he rots in a Corrections Facility in Missouri well hopefully he serves the
00:42:44
full amount of the term and hopefully he gets a little prison Justice and hopefully there's some people that find
00:42:51
him to be annoying and don't like his stupid face and and maybe get so scared that he
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wets himself and so people take out some anger on this douche but also maybe when he's up for parole
00:43:09
they won't parole him Keith Todd remember he's the mushroom hunter who found the girls yeah he later told
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kshb.com that he has a daughter who is Jessica's age he said I was honored that I was able to
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help bring this to a closure I mean for a family to go 10 years without knowing where your child is is just
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heart-wrenching and with Jessica seven months is like an eternity I am just grateful that the good Lord and these
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girls led me to the remains that day now before we wrap up here this week Captain
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I want to use a quote from an article from earlier this year Robert D keppel PhD is a man that we
00:43:56
have spoke of several times on this show throughout the years Robert keppel was instrumental in the investigations and
00:44:04
capture of Ted Bundy the Green River Killer Gary Ridgeway and the Atlanta child killer Wayne Williams he is also
00:44:12
the author of many brilliant true crime books sadly Dr keppel passed away a few months ago but there was something he
00:44:21
said in an interview years ago that was in this recent article as well that very much pertains to this week's
00:44:29
case and it said Robert keppel says there are more serial killers than people think everyone knows the famous
00:44:37
ones that the newspaper headlines cover nobody knows all the rest all the rest are more dangerous there are more of
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those out there that kill two three or four people thank you for all of your incredible
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work Mr keppel rest in peace love oh I don't want your love [Music] [Music] thank you so much for joining us here in
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the garage if you have thoughts and opinions on this case please go to truecrimegarage.com and comment on the
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blog section Colonel do we have any recommended reading for the listeners why yes we do here Captain uh this week
00:45:34
we're recommending deviant the Shocking True Story of the original Psycho by Harold Schechter driven to commit
00:45:41
gruesome and bizarre acts beyond all imagination Ed Gein remains one of the most deranged Minds in the annals of
00:45:49
American homicide this is his story recounted in fascinating and chilling detail by Harold Schechter one of the
00:45:57
most acclaimed True Crime storytellers of our time and hey friend of the show we had him on as a guest on our other
00:46:04
great show off the Record so check out deviant the Shocking True Story of the original Psycho by Harold Schechter you
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can find that great title and many others on our recommended page at truecrime garage.com and until next week
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be good be kind and don't let it [Music]